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0:05What's up friends the tailgate is on I'm Chris Welsh we've got Andrew Erickson and Pat Fitzmaurice here.
0:11We're gonna be breaking down week three we've got predictions we've got some calls we're gonna be breaking down some of the
0:17big games and some of the latest news. All here on the tailgate with a couple of my besties Erickson what's up buddy how we doing.
0:25Dude got my Dunkin Donuts today because it's fall it's autumn dude what is a better time to be alive than in
0:32New England in fall football season loving it man.
0:34Never been to New England so I don't know I've never been that far on the East Coast so I have no concept of it.
0:42We gotta change that then. We do we probably have to Fitzy Fitzy are you a world I feel like you've done
0:48some world traveling you've tasted some brews across many different.
0:51Establishments. Yeah yeah. I've been overseas you know I've driven from Amsterdam to southern Italy that was fun but and I've been
0:58to New England I've been to Boston love the area but I've never been for fall.
1:02I would love to go for fall I know you've got spectacular foliage there Erickson it's remains undefeated foliage.
1:08A plus foliage yes this is a foliage show guys ladies and gentlemen this is a high-end foliage show.
1:14Sorry I'm completely uncultured in the desert but I did get woken up.
1:18You just got a bunch of sand. You got this sand.
1:21Yeah I just got a bunch of sand but I was woken up to like a 120 decibel lightning thunder strike today
1:27because it's raining and that doesn't happen in Arizona.
1:30And it's kind of apropos of week two going into week three because there have been a ton of lightning strikes.
1:36Ton of injuries a ton of chaos and we are just trying to wade through it and that's what we're gonna do today.
1:43So let's not waste any more time no more foliage talk and let's talk some NFL.
1:48Let's jump into some of the trending news before we start breaking down stuff.
1:52And this has obviously been pacing itself out over a couple days.
1:56But a few little new nuggets you guys know Jackson Dart got hurt then you knew it was four to six weeks
2:02then you knew it was out for the season.
2:05The newest news is he is officially having surgery but the word is that he could be back for the playoffs.
2:11That's not the only piece of news Adam Schefter is out reporting that the Giants might be actually looking at some trade candidates.
2:18We've kind of been all over the board about this because they've got Jameis Winston which I don't know kind of seems silly.
2:25If I hear that they are looking at trade candidates to me it does scream a tiny bit that maybe that version
2:31of Jameis Winston we saw on week two might be the version they're very scared they had.
2:36And Adam Schefter named a couple players specifically Gardner Minshew and Mac Jones as candidates.
2:41I thought it was an interesting thing noting Schefter noted that Minshew had played under Giants offensive coordinator Matt Nagy in Kansas City which there's some familiarity there.
2:49But then he noted that like Mac Jones might cost less which I completely disagree.
2:54That would be the quarterback you would want. And then a slight little lean to Jimmy Garoppolo.
2:59So I think this is kind of an interesting thing that's transpiring here that they would look at bringing in a quarterback
3:05Erickson after they've you know made the kind of commitment of the backup of Jameis Winston and they've got him rolling out here.
3:12So what do you think of this report? What do you think this says for the Giants?
3:17All that's wrapped around that Jackson Dart could return for the playoffs.
3:21So they are trying to win games to get there.
3:24Call them BS on the Jackson Dart returning for the playoffs.
3:27I take John Harbaugh's stance when it comes to how well he's expected to perform with backup quarterbacks with a grain of salt.
3:34Considering last year they opted to start Cooper Rush instead of Tyler Huntley last season when Lamar Jackson first got injured.
3:40And that was a borderline disaster. Despite the fact that there was a large sample size of Tyler Huntley, Snoop Huntley, Pro
3:47Bowl quarterback, playing very well in the Lamar Jackson role.
3:50So I don't trust Harbaugh to make the right decision when it comes to the backup quarterback.
3:55And maybe that's why we saw Jameis Winston play so horribly because they had all their eggs invested into one basket.
4:01That basket being Jackson Dart. So I do think that this is particularly concerning that after one game, they're already like we
4:07got to pull the plug on Jameis Winston. And then it's interesting because you look up at the betting market.
4:13Who's favorite at home this week? The New York Giants with Jameis Winston as the starting quarterback.
4:18Which if you look at Jameis Winston as a market favorite, 27% against the spread in his career as a market favorite.
4:25You do never want to bet on Jameis as a favorite in any capacity.
4:29Well, just a matchup. It's interesting what you said though in that he'll make the wrong decisions.
4:34But then you've got Nagy here who could go and say, hey, listen.
4:38I think Mac Jones is probably like the highest talent here, Fitzy.
4:42But specifically, I think the one that makes the most sense is the Gardner Minshew where Nagy could sell everybody saying this guy knows the system.
4:49We can implement him immediately. What would the Cardinals care at this point?
4:53Like I think that's like an easy transitional move that probably isn't made this week.
4:58But how much are you buying, not just the playoff thing with Jackson Dart, Erickson's kind of selling that.
5:03But how much are you buying that they might try to make, I don't even want to call it a splash, but
5:10they would make a move after having Jameis Winston?
5:13Well, I'm absolutely selling the idea that the Giants are going to be anywhere near the playoff hunt without Jackson Dart.
5:19I mean, this was kind of an up and coming team as it was.
5:23Maybe a puncher's chance to get to the playoffs, even with Jackson Dart.
5:27Without him, I just don't see any ray of hope for them to get there.
5:31What would be best for them moving forward? We'll see if things look a little more buttoned up with Jameis Winston in week two.
5:38Like a lot of times, quarterbacks come in cold.
5:41They haven't had any practice reps all week. Things look really bad.
5:45Then they get practice reps for a week. They know they're going to be starting.
5:49The preparation is a little different and things look a lot better the following week.
5:54Now, Jameis Winston thinks they're never going to look completely buttoned up, but we could get that 300-yard, three-touchdown, three-interception kind of
6:00game that we're used to seeing from Jameis Winston in his starts.
6:04We know there are going to be some turnover-worthy throws, but he does challenge defenses downfield.
6:09You know, the Giants are going to need some splash plays now that their playmaking quarterback is out for presumably the entire season, playoffs included.
6:16I mean, there's cold quarterbacks, and then there's Jameis Winston in week two.
6:20That was ugly. Yeah, and I kind of agree.
6:23I actually think this is a weird space that they're in, though.
6:26Like, how much can they afford to see how long it's going to take for Winston?
6:31Like, obviously, you're not going to make a move.
6:34Nothing's going to change for this week. You're going to throw Winston out there.
6:38Is it going to be enough that this game is going to be the tell?
6:42And then if they're like, ooh, this is a disaster, they're going to immediately go make a trade.
6:47And I think that trade would probably make most sense for a guy like Minshew, and what does that do?
6:53I don't know. I just thought if Schefter's reporting on it, there's just something that's floating out there.
6:59And to me, it's probably some of the uneasiness of how Winston was.
7:03But like you said, he could cure all of that by just going, you know, Winston slaying when he just slangs the
7:09ball, and it's 420 yards, and it's probably three picks as well with the three touchdowns.
7:14But, you know, that's the game. And I don't know if Harbaugh can deal with that, but I thought that was an interesting report.
7:21I would just wonder about, like, there's, I don't see the urgency for a team that doesn't have realistic Super Bowl halts.
7:28You know, who cares if you start 0-3? Knowing the way Jackson Dart likes to play, and now he's had this major
7:34knee injury, like, you might need to start thinking about having a better-than-average backup quarterback on the roster, someone like Mac Jones
7:41for next season, to pick up the pieces in case something happens to Dart again in 2027.
7:46And I think they thought they were. I know we can look at it, but I don't think they internally are looking
7:52at it as they're not getting at it. Is Jim telling John to call the Vikings about a one Mr.
7:58J.J. McCarthy? Yeah, I mean, that was another one that was floated out there in the very beginning.
8:04That would be kind of like the two young long-term battle type of thing.
8:08But you don't trade for J.J. McCarthy to win games this year.
8:11You know what I mean? So, like, the move to—it's stupid saying this—the move to try to win games is getting a
8:18guy like Gardner Mincher, who knows the offense, or Mac Jones.
8:21The move after a couple weeks when it's all screwed up and it's messed up is, to your point, go and get a J.J.
8:28McCarthy, change of scenery, play him the last half of the year, see if you have something in him, and then there's
8:35maybe—I don't know if it's a competition or a safety net for yourself with Jackson Dart because all he does is get hurt.
8:42So, very interesting quarterback carousel that's going on. Another in the coaching delusion, Denver Broncos, saying that they're going to be okay.
8:48Peyton said that everything's going to be just fine.
8:51You know the dog—I actually have, like, the little thing of it, the dog with the fire around it.
8:57Like, this is fine. This is him. As three of the four running backs are all on the injury report right now.
9:03Jonah Coleman did not practice yesterday. I think J.K.
9:06Dobbins is trending a little bit in a better direction.
9:09RJ Harvey's out there. Erickson, you have had one really good point you have said for two weeks now, and you got a hold to it.
9:17What time is it in Denver? Tyler Bidet. It's always Tyler Bidet.
9:20It is Bidet time. I mean, even last week, I know Jonah Coleman kind of stole the show, but Bidet was out there.
9:27He was making some plays, especially as a pass catcher out of the backfield.
9:31So, whichever running back we get that's healthy between Dobbins, Harvey, or Coleman, Bidet is going to be also playing a role
9:38in this Broncos backfield, especially when you have a matchup against the Rams, where it's very potential for them to be trailing
9:44in that game, and you need a receiver out of the backfield.
9:48So, that's something you have to keep in mind.
9:50So, again, to kind of just temper expectations on whichever running back is healthy, that they're not going to see a 80%,
9:57you know, 20-touch type of workload, probably. Fitz, are you worried about this Denver Bronco team if they don't have any of
10:03these backs, and they're unable to establish the run, and Bo Nix has looked a little, you know, rough-ish around the edges,
10:10and they just haven't gotten all these pieces going?
10:13Like, how worried should we be about this team, especially when we're already looking at this and the entire backfield is banged up?
10:20It is a little bit of a problem. I mean, this wasn't expected to be one of the best backfields in the
10:26NFL, but it was one of the deepest, and now that depth is immediately being tested.
10:31Yeah, it's a worrisome thing, especially if you're a fantasy owner.
10:34You can kick that Jonah Coleman rank to the curb and maybe be on the lookout for J.K.
10:39Dobbin. What I'm really worried about, this literally might be a different back finishing as the top back for this team every single week of the season.
10:48Like, legitimately, I will be surprised. Hopefully not. But there's a legitimate chance we might have a different back being the top
10:54diet every, no back-to-back weeks where Jonah Coleman goes off or J.K.
10:58Dobbins. They're just going to continuously share across the board because of this big mixture.
11:02Some other news and notes. Sean McVay said that Pukunokua is, quote, not making great progress, Fitz.
11:07This is looking bad again. It did not seem like it was going to be at this level, especially if you saw
11:14some of those videos that were out there for Monday night's game.
11:17He was inactive. He continuously is actually being either transparent or just a really good liar with his poker face, but saying
11:24that Pukunokua is just not doing well with this.
11:26So your guesstimation, do you think we're going to see him out there?
11:30And if we don't, is this going to continue to benefit Terrence Ferguson?
11:34I have to take McVay at face value. You know, if he says things aren't looking good, they probably aren't looking good,
11:41and we should probably expect Pukun to miss another game at least.
11:44But yeah, I think we're going to see the Rams continue to lean into like heavy 12 and 13 personnel usage, as
11:51they did last year when they used 13 personnel at the highest rate in the league by far.
11:56And Terrence Ferguson, he is the pass catcher of those tight ends.
12:00And we saw the athleticism that prompted the Rams to make him a second round draft pick a couple of years ago.
12:06He looked really good on Monday night. He ran more than twice as many routes as any other Rams tight end.
12:13I think he will be a big part of the passing game again if Puka is absent, but it's a tougher matchup
12:19this week with Denver versus, you know, last week.
12:22The Giants secondary looked terrible, just terrible. And Denver's secondary is considerably better.
12:26Erickson, my tinfoil hat is, this is my conspiracy.
12:28I think that the NFL quietly behind the scenes cracked down on teams, ownership and coaches that would do what we used to see.
12:35They give you no information. They give you false information on injuries.
12:39And then they'd flip the switch. How many times do you see that in the past where they're like, yeah, not looking good.
12:46We don't know. We'll have to see. We'll have to see.
12:49Boom. Guy goes out there, plays 95% of the routes and stuff.
12:53So this year, it seems like it's the opposite direction.
12:56It is more face. Maybe I got to pay attention more to coach speak.
13:00It seems more injury face value. And my conspiracy theory is because of partnerships and how damning that can be in the
13:06NFL when the coaches would kind of hide behind.
13:09Obviously, they have injury reports, but they would hide all that information and try to use it as gamesmanship.
13:15I don't feel like that's out there this year.
13:17So I have been taking face value to what we're being told with injuries because I think there has been a secret Illuminati meeting behind the scenes.
13:25And that's my big conspiracy. Well, that's why injury reports exist in the first place.
13:30Right? Yeah. They were nonsense before. No. Oh, yeah.
13:33That's why they exist. And that thing that I always gave credit to Bill Belichick was he said, screw you.
13:39He just put everybody on the injury report. So it didn't matter.
13:42Well, the injury reports filled out. Tom Brady is on it again.
13:46Questionable with the shoulder injury. We don't see anymore.
13:48That's where my conspiracy changes. That's now dead. And there are no Belichicks out there that are fighting against that.
13:54And the NFL is like, nope, we're not doing that.
13:57Bill actually is probably the one that's helped us get here because he manipulated it so bad.
14:02Yeah. I just remember laughing every single time you looked at a Patriots injury report because he would put 30 players on
14:09the Wednesday injury report with just shoulder, ankle, finger, hand injuries.
14:12Tom Brady was on the injury report for like four straight years.
14:16Every single week with like questionable shoulder injury. Never missed a game.
14:19It's my favorite thing. All right. Let me know.
14:22I'm curious if anybody else thinks that that's conspiracy is out there, too, because I am taking a lot more face value.
14:29And then like the reality of what these guys are saying, I think, is holding.
14:33So that doesn't really hold well to Puka Nakua.
14:36But Terrence Ferguson really did kind of slide well into that role.
14:39So we will probably see a whole lot more of him.
14:42Last two pieces, Aaron Jones. We talked about this on the Tailgate Live, which you guys should come and check Erickson and I out.
14:50We do that 5 p.m. Eastern on Wednesdays, hanging out with people.
14:53And we had just gotten the news that Aaron Jones has a knee injury.
14:57And that knee injury, even though we talked about it there, we're now here with Fitzy.
15:02That knee injury doesn't look great to the point that he might not be playing in the game.
15:07And they were talking up Damon Claiborne and DJ Dallas.
15:10So Fitzy, your reaction, because we were you were kind of reacting with us because you had said you even like cut
15:17Damon Claiborne in a league yesterday prior to this news coming out.
15:21But it's slowly kind of pieced out. Erickson and I are both in the leaning of like, it doesn't look like he's
15:27good to go for this because they had this massive usage on him.
15:31Now this knee is banged up and it might be Damon Claiborne time.
15:35Yeah, it might be Claiborne time. He's a small, very fast, shifty, elusive back from Wake Forest.
15:40It would be interesting to see him get a chance.
15:43And he is small, but he's not just a mere scat back.
15:46Like he does pretty well as far as contact balance and like bouncing off tackles and maybe a little utility in the passing game, too.
15:54So I guess it would be a mix of him and what?
15:57DJ Dallas, the other guy. Yeah, that's what they say.
16:00Left in that backfield. And then Jerome Ford, too.
16:03Because he's on the backfield. Yeah, if he's activated.
16:06Well, that would be an interesting one. But Erickson, you had even said like we've agreed like DJ Dallas probably is like
16:12a guy that gets the start and is probably like a third down pass blocking type of guy.
16:18But if there's someone to make a bet on to make the big play, it would be Damon Claiborne.
16:23Yeah, they're not going to be I feel pretty confident that they're not going to scheme up any type of touches for DJ Dallas.
16:30I feel pretty confident. And even last week, like who had more targets?
16:34Damon Claiborne or Aaron Jones? Damon Claiborne did. He ran he ran one route, got one target on it.
16:40So clearly they know that he has juice, that he can hit the edge and score an 80 yard touchdown.
16:46So against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers defense, that is really tough to run on anyway.
16:50I think that Kevin O'Connell might just lean into the fact that, look, our starting running back we overloaded with touches last week is really banged up.
16:58We have a lot of inexperience now at the running back position.
17:02We have DJ Dallas. We feel good about as a veteran.
17:05We have this explosive rookie can make some big plays if we get him in space and we're getting our starting quarterback back in the lineup.
17:13So you attack this Tampa Bay Buccaneers defense through the air.
17:16Kyler's back. Let's go. Let it rip. The Buccaneers are unraveling.
17:20Oh, and 11 against the spread. Tied the continuing of a Super Bowl era record of how bad they've been against the spread.
17:26Todd Bowles is hot seat is scorching right now.
17:29So I just think they continue to lean into the passing game in this matchup.
17:34Maybe they do, but it's going to be interesting to see if Kyler can handle that in his first game back because,
17:40you know, Todd Bowles is going to throw blitzes at him constantly in this game.
17:45And Kyler only played 11 snaps, I think, in that first game against the Packers.
17:49He didn't look good in those 11 snaps. Like they need to have a plan for handling the Tampa Bay Blitz this
17:56week, and we'll see how Kyler fares. And that also could be why a guy like DJ Dallas could be out there
18:02quite a bit more just playing a pass blocking role.
18:05But also it could be and I would also the another side note as my brain goes into three different spots is
18:12like what type of tentativeness are we going to see from Kyler because of him getting smashed, you know, the previous week to get that concussion.
18:19Is he comfortable with running or is it going to just be a sling fest?
18:24So that'll be something to watch. Justin Jefferson 2020.
18:26I mean, look, look, if I was Kyle, it's like, yeah, how do I make this as simple as possible?
18:32Drop back. Where's Justin Jefferson throwing ball? Yeah. Don't overthink it.
18:36Yeah. Addison, not too bad either. The other piece, very complicated issue, the continuous saga of the Josh Jacobs situation.
18:42Only reason we're going to mention this is because it just came down.
18:45It is, you know, this continued conversation around the videotape in Josh Jacobs situation being sealed.
18:50The woman involved with it had requested it to be sealed.
18:54There was a judge that like had a temporary denial of that.
18:57And then today, Judge Mark Hammer denied the request by the victim in the Josh Jacobs case.
19:02I'm reading an exact quote here to have this permanently sealed and instead turn the matter over to the Hobart Lawrence Police
19:09Department, which will now be the custodian of the records.
19:12So what this means is, is any new request for the records will be handled by the police department, which will then
19:18determine if it is considered fair to release those records.
19:21And then on top of that, the victim or Jacobs will be granted time to appear if the police department decides to release the records.
19:29I'm guessing peer in court. That wasn't made clear.
19:31So what that means is there is a much higher likelihood now that that video where it didn't seem a couple weeks ago could become released.
19:39It's not a guarantee. We don't know. And I think everybody is kind of held to this, Erickson, that, you know, that
19:46could be it's obviously a smoking gun, of course.
19:48But that could create much more fervor around because everyone's like four to six games, domestic violence issues.
19:54But, you know, this could make this a lot of a bigger situation.
19:57So the saga of Josh Jacobs continues to be a huge question mark and he stays on the exempt list for we just don't know how long.
20:06Yeah, I think that whatever's on that video is not good.
20:09Safe to say, I think that's probably what is contained on it.
20:12But so it's always going to be not good, by the way.
20:16Just want to point that out. Like anything domestic violence is not good.
20:20So it's not good. I think that this is obviously negative for the Jacobs camp, because if that video gets released and
20:26the NFL sees it, he's probably looking at a lengthier suspension or potentially a career ending suspension where he's like, now you're done.
20:33Sorry. Like no one's going to bring you back.
20:36So that's that's all I have really to add.
20:39Yeah. Fitzy, nothing you want less to talk about and deal with as a Packer fan than stuff like this.
20:44And it's a brutal situation that continuously just it has these stock market ups and downs of chaos involved in it.
20:51Yeah. And I can't understand these complex legal issues because I'm just a simple caveman.
20:55But I would say that the fact the league has not handed down any sort of suspension yet two weeks into the
21:02season suggests that they're holding open the possibility that this video might become available.
21:06And they would, you know, hand down a much longer suspension than the six gamer mandatory for any sort of domestic situation like that.
21:13And to further add that not only what you just said, but that they are waiting to make anything to see if
21:20it would be available to them like that. They're holding out to see if they're going to get it.
21:25And now it seems a little bit more likely.
21:28So updates as more of this. Also, too, I mean, to lighten the mood here.
21:32Is this his real name? Judge Mark Hammer. It's like that's like so like if you're one of the greatest if your
21:39name is Mark Hammer, you're either a handyman or a judge.
21:42It's like pretty perfect. The only thing would have been better if he was like Daniel Gavel and he'd just been like Judge Daniel Gavel.
21:50Like Mark Hammer is a phenomenal. It's a TV judge name.
21:53Yeah, sure. Totally. Yeah. A guy's going to have a show in like a year, though none of those judge shows ever really go well.
22:00They're not very good. All right. We are going to get into the games that matter.
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22:49here as we go into week three. And this one might actually, like if there is, you know, the dragon meme where it's like dragon, dragon.
22:56There's like all of the dragon. This might be that one when you look at the matchups.
23:01But I put Cincinnati and Pittsburgh on this one because Cincinnati's defense has been for real.
23:06This is a big divisional matchup. The Pittsburgh Steelers defense has been great, but unlike Cincinnati, they don't have a real semblance of an offense right now.
23:14And that seems to be a little bit more tied around Aaron Rodgers.
23:18So Fitzy, we could start with you. Just want to get your keys to the game here.
23:23And who do you think can step out of this, is going to step out of this for that divisional run, which,
23:30you know, is going to be competing up against the Baltimore Ravens here.
23:33But what do you think about the two defensive stouts here and what Pittsburgh's offense kind of lacks?
23:39Yeah, this could be a rock fight because the Dexter Lawrence effect has transformed this defense.
23:44Like it's there's some other guys playing really well for Cincinnati.
23:47But like a joke they were to last year, by the way.
23:50Remember, it was just like it was like, oh, great, you know, just play against Cincinnati.
23:55Yeah, great point. Complete alteration with one player. And you can make the case that the defense has outplayed the Cincinnati offense thus far.
24:02But once the Bengals offense gets clicking, they're going to be really hard to stop.
24:07And maybe now they don't have to expose Joe Burrow to the sort of punishment he's been taking.
24:12Like maybe they can have more games where Burrow only has to throw 25, 26, 27 passes to win games.
24:18You would think that they're going to have an easy time of it against the Pittsburgh offense because the Pittsburgh passing game looks completely broken.
24:25And they are one of the ugliest watches right now in football.
24:29Like when Pittsburgh has the ball, it's just Aaron Rodgers is like he doesn't want to take hits.
24:34Things don't look good. Yeah, I mean, I just it's too bad because this Pittsburgh defense is legit and there is a
24:41ton of talent on that side of the ball.
24:44And the offense is just dysfunctional right now. Yeah, I bet fantasy points has this stat.
24:48But what do you think Aaron Rodgers has done more deep passes of 30 yards or more or throw at players ankles because he's throwing the ball away?
24:57You know, when like a rusher is there and he just throws it down on the ground.
25:02Like, what do you think he's done more this season?
25:05It's a good question. Oh, sorry. Yeah. You know, you can speak on it, too.
25:09But I don't know. I feel like it's throw at the ankles.
25:13I mean, he is chucking a D. I mean, DK Mecca is racking up the air yards.
25:18But it's like throws that have no chance of getting.
25:21Yeah, yeah, yeah. The term prairie yards instead of air yards.
25:24That's that's what we're getting like because they're just like Aaron Rodgers throwing it.
25:28It's not like the effective throws to stretch the defense or whatever.
25:32It's just like I'm going to heave this ball as far as I can rather than stand here and take a hit.
25:38Do we have two stats for fantasy points, by the way?
25:42Prairie yards and ankle yards. Can we have? Let's do that.
25:45The throws are so off the mark that you can't tell if it's a throwaway or just a deep pass.
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27:30Erickson, your take on this situation. I got a bet against Pittsburgh, as far as wide receivers go, in the prop show
27:36we're going to be doing over on Betting Pros this week.
27:40But offense looks abysmal. What's your lean? What do you think the keys are in this game?
27:45Well, to Fitz's point about the Dexter-Lawrence impact, so he's been double teamed on 53% of his pass rushes this season.
27:51It's the ninth highest among defensive tackles. They've generated pressure on 45% of the drop packs when Dexter Lawrence is on the
27:58field, compared to 35% with him off the field.
28:00Against the run, 2.9 yards per carry when he's on the field, compared to 5.6 when he's not on the field.
28:06So his impact is coming up in the numbers.
28:09It's so obvious based on how this defense has played overall.
28:12And I think just his impact being on the field, it makes the other players better because it puts them in better
28:19situations for them to thrive with their pass rushers.
28:22Some of their young guys are starting to step up.
28:25We knew their secondary had some good pieces. DJ Turner is still balling out.
28:29I mean, he's going to lock down DK Metcalf, so it's going to be another 10 target game for Metcalf with no production.
28:36So man, I get this line at three and a half with the Bengals is giving respect to AFC North divisional matchup.
28:42The Bengals are on the road playing in Pittsburgh.
28:45But this feels like a line that would be for like a Mike Tomlin team where it's like, oh, Mike Tomlin, home
28:51underdog, like lock of the week, maybe. This is the Mike McCarthy, Aaron Rodgers Steelers.
28:56So in the past, this would be a line where, oh man, I can't touch this.
29:01Like, this is so scary. Like the voodoo magic for Mike Tomlin is going to come out.
29:06Steelers are going to win this game somehow, some way.
29:09But it's not Mike Tomlin calling the shots anymore.
29:11It's Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers press conference after the loss to the Patriots sounded like there's already a big disconnect here between this head coach and quarterback.
29:20So I think that this might be a slap of reality for the Steelers.
29:24And although their defense has looked good the last couple of weeks, I don't know.
29:28I think Joe Burrow is kind of a different animal here with these top tier wide receivers.
29:33Jamel Dean is on the injury report. Joey Porter Jr.
29:36might come back this week, but how is he going to play in his first came back?
29:41We've also seen these Bengals receivers absolutely feast on this defense before in the past with Joe Flacco as the quarterback.
29:48So even though they're on the road, I kind of like laying the points with Cincy.
29:52I think Cincy is going to be like a really good money line parlay piece.
29:57If people are taking a couple teams, they'll probably be popular.
30:00And by the way, textbook passive aggressiveness. Like you put that in the textbook.
30:04You want to give someone an example of what passive aggressiveness is?
30:08Just show that where Aaron Rodgers is like, yeah, it's on me to tell the coaches they're not doing a good job.
30:14Like get out of here, dude. Like he's the worst.
30:17I used to kind of like be a pseudo, like sometimes the villains and stuff, like I can kind of be okay with and whatever.
30:25He just has pushed it so far where it's just like, you're the worst, dude.
30:29Like you're just the worst. Like, and that, those are the things that I can't do.
30:34So, all right. Let's go to the next game in here.
30:37This is, uh, this is Erickson's game, New England and Jacksonville.
30:41This is going to be a very, very fun game.
30:44One, I mean, two quarterbacks that maybe have like slightly underperformed in what people wanted at a Lawrence, at least last week.
30:50First game was really great. Drake Maye has really struggled.
30:53That's something I'm going to talk about a little bit later, but Erickson, your take on this one, Drake may has not gotten going.
31:00They're trying to get guys like Dobbs. He had the big play last week.
31:04They're just trying to find all their pieces. They have not found their footing to a Jaguars team that, uh, you know,
31:11last week was iffy Parker Washington is clearly the play.
31:14Tootin looks good. Uh, I kind of think they have found themselves, but how do you think this game is going to play out?
31:21And what is a big key part of this matchup?
31:24It's got to be Parker Washington against Christian Gonzalez, the number one defensive player for the Patriots against the number one receiver for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
31:32Cause it's so clearly Parker Washington. The fact that his target share only trails JSN and Amon Ross St.
31:37Brown this season. He's been absolutely fantastic. The numbers show it.
31:41The film shows it. The dude is an absolute stud.
31:44And the longer the Jaguars wait to pay him, the more they're going to have to end up paying Parker Washington.
31:50So I think that matchup is going to be fascinating.
31:53I'm, do you think, do you think Gonzalez is going to blanket him the entire game in terms of like, he's not
31:59going to do any production or he's going to shadow.
32:02Yeah. Well kind of, yeah. Shadow him. Like, do you think he's going to be shadowing?
32:07I think there's going to be a lot of that.
32:10I think that Liam Cohen is also sharp enough of a offensive play car to get Parker Washington into favorable situations where
32:17Gonzalez just won't end up matching him, whether it's a pick play or something along those lines.
32:22And also, I mean, Mark Washington is going to win his fair share of reps against, I mean, like the, both guys are going to make plays, right?
32:30Like both guys are superstars. In my opinion, one of them just hasn't gotten paid yet.
32:35So I think it's going to be a battle to watch.
32:38That's where my eyes are going to be glued to the screen that, and the under on Chris Rodriguez catches because that guy can't catch a cold.
32:46So 0.5 receptions slamming the under on Chris Rodriguez.
32:49That'll be a sweat. That'll be fun to go through the entire game, but the receiver quarterback matchup matters a lot to me.
32:56And then how does the Patriots offensive line hold up against some pretty fierce pass rushers on the Jaguars side?
33:02They lost one of their starting guards. I don't like the spot for the Patriots really at all.
33:07I think that this is a really good spot for the Jaguars to bounce back.
33:11They had a chance to win in Denver last week.
33:14They were winning in the second half, but they just couldn't close it out in the fourth quarter.
33:20So I think that they get back onto business here and yeah, I'm not really hopeful about my Patriots this week.
33:26Yeah. Fitzy, that would make the Patriots own two on the road.
33:29This is a tough matchup against the Jags kind of in general.
33:33They haven't had their footing. What's your take on this Jaguars Patriots game?
33:37This is one I would probably not put a penny on betting.
33:40Like I feel like this one could kind of go either way and I just want to get the assessment of where we're at.
33:48I want to see if Drake may can kind of turn things around because it's been pretty ugly so far.
33:54Give them a mulligan for week one because they're going up against the Seahawks who like did not allow a completion of
34:0010 or more yards against the Cardinals last week.
34:03It's the best pass defense in the league, but you know, not a banner game against the Steelers last week either.
34:09It seems like defenses are dropping more guys in coverage against May and rather than trying to like go after him with
34:16the blitz, just like, okay, figure it, figure this out.
34:19Throwing new puzzles at Drake may to try to solve and kind of hasn't been able to solve them yet, but I
34:25have a lot of faith in Drake may to pick it up and eventually overcome some of the challenges defensive coordinators are throwing at him.
34:33Let's go to Rio. It's Rio. It's Rio. Rio de Janeiro game, Baltimore at Dallas.
34:37This is one of those, like, I'm not a schedule hawk.
34:40I don't go and just like, you know, when the schedule get releases, I'm not just like, you know, the papers here,
34:47you know, or Steve Martin and the jerk, which not everyone's, no one's going to get that reference.
34:52Maybe Fitz, you'll get that reference, but the phone book is here.
34:56Like, I don't do that with the schedule. So I'm not like locked into, oh, there's a Rio game in week three.
35:02Overall, it's just like a really weird spot. Fitzy, what's your take on this one?
35:07There's travel involved, you know, both of these offenses, specifically Baltimore, you know, they're dealing with a situation with Zay Flowers and his kind of questionable nature.
35:15They really were able to meet that call last week with Rashad Bateman.
35:19But will they be able to do that this game?
35:22And do you think the travel playing in Rio is going to have any effects on this game?
35:27Travel? I'm not sure. What I'm sort of watching for is like what the field looks like, because there have been reports
35:34that the field is not in good shape and the NFL has been sort of, oh, nothing to see here.
35:39And apparently some of the boots on the ground reporting suggests that maybe the field is not in the best of shape.
35:46So you just cross your fingers that there are no major injuries.
35:50I know when the Packers and Eagles played in Brazil a couple of seasons ago in week one, that that field was a skating rink.
35:57Kind of worked to the advantage of the offense in that game.
36:01There were some big passing plays because defenders could not get their footing when players with the ball changed direction.
36:07So, yeah, I just I hope everyone emerges with their ligaments intact in this game.
36:11But it is a really fun matchup. I just I want to see how the Ravens bounce back after a very disappointing
36:18home loss to the Saints last week. This seems like one of those games, too, just from a player perspective.
36:23Send me to Rio, but give me a couple days after to hang out because hopefully no one is out enjoying what
36:30is probably a phenomenal nightlife in Rio. Another note to throw out here.
36:34I'm seeing this just like 20 minutes ago. Zay Flowers today did work out on his own in practice, but was not
36:40present during the portion of the session that was open to the media.
36:44So that's a report that's out there. So he did his own stuff, but he wasn't on the big one.
36:50Erickson level of concerns with Zay Flowers. And if they're without Zay Flowers, do you think this does truly put them a
36:57step behind in this real game versus the Cowboys?
36:59I think potentially. I don't think Zay Flowers is going to play again.
37:03I mean, he said that he was limited last week on Friday.
37:07I know the are they playing tool has him not playing.
37:10And of course, because he's on our auction team with me and Fitz, he's obviously not going to play because there's nobody
37:17left on that team that's active anymore. You know who our number one bidded up player was?
37:22Puka Nakua. Next, Zay Flowers. These guys aren't going to be playing anytime soon.
37:26So you have Jaden Daniels, too. Alex, Alex Pierce.
37:29Oh, my God. Are you joking? Just like absolutely gutted with it.
37:32Like we barely can set a roster last week.
37:35I'm like, oh, can we should we do Njoku, Terrence Ferguson?
37:38It was like, oh, actually, we don't have a choice.
37:41We have to play both guys. And of course, Njoku gets hurt.
37:45Man. Ferguson was nice, but it's absolutely brutal. But no, I think that that matters a lot if he's not going to play.
37:52We've seen this Ravens offense, the passing game. I know Bateman stepped up a little bit last week, but he's still not to the level of Zay Flowers.
38:00So that's concerning from the Ravens perspective. The Ravens are getting back some of those guys I talked about when we were
38:06breaking down Javante Williams in his rank. Teddy Buchanan, full practice on Wednesday.
38:10Badabuke, the big defensive tackle that is a significant interior upgrade for run defense.
38:14Full practice. On Wednesday. So those guys are probably going to suit up and play in this game, which is going to
38:21bolster that run defense for the Baltimore Ravens against a lackluster rush game for the Dallas Cowboys.
38:26Like Javante has not been ripping off any big runs.
38:29He is at three yards per carry through two games.
38:32And that was against the Giants and Commanders. Like not good defenses.
38:36So Dallas seems like it's kind of one dimensional when it comes to they're just going to pass the ball a ton.
38:42And how does that kind of pan out when you have poor field conditions?
38:46And then on the Dallas side, they're kind of the opposite of what Cincinnati is.
38:51Cincinnati is getting all the OK, their defense, the middle of the additions and you're seeing it.
38:56Dallas is like we made all these additions and like Luther Burton did only squat, right?
39:01They're not getting any of the returns on the defensive additions that they made.
39:05And they're all banged up again in their secondary.
39:07Kobe Durant hurt. Willie Hooker hurt. PJ Locke hurt.
39:10All DNPs on Wednesday on the injury report. So this one for me is a game I would not touch from a
39:17betting perspective because I could just see so many different ways where it could go.
39:21And then you're throwing in the fact that it's played on a neutral field that we don't feel confident about whatsoever.
39:27Part of me feels like, why don't they just play this game in Dallas where we know we're going to get a
39:34much better product versus, oh, let's roll the dice on this field that may or may not be terrible and put all these superstar players.
39:41That just really scares me. So for me, it's like, please just no more injuries.
39:46Have everybody come out. Ravens win by three. Cowboys cover whatever.
39:49Don't care. That's kind of what I'm hoping for with this game.
39:53It's not about player health, Erickson. It's about growing the game to Rio and Australia.
39:57Don't you know they're going to play that Antarctica game?
40:00It's going to be great. We're going to be.
40:03That's why they're sending the Steelers, dude. NFL prestige worldwide.
40:06We're everywhere playing every game, regardless of the conditions.
40:08They're going to play beach ball. It doesn't matter.
40:11I don't disagree with you. All right. Two more games here.
40:14The Denver Broncos and the Rams. The Rams are going to be playing up against the Broncos who are going to be
40:21without, you know, essentially all of their running backs.
40:24This is in Denver, though. One on one Rams look better.
40:27But Rams, it's leaning like they're going to be.
40:29There's lots of injuries in this one. Rams look like they're going to be leaning without Puka.
40:35If not, that's a case for Terrence Ferguson. Denver Broncos, not that you're probably going to run that well in general anyways,
40:41are going to be off those backs. They're going to have to pass.
40:45So this is like a big powerhouse matchup that there's just a whole lot of injuries attached to it.
40:51Probably, I think, one of the games I'm looking most forward to this week, Erickson.
40:55What's your take on this? You know, what injuries are going to affect which team the most that takes them out of this game?
41:02Well, I think that this puts the Rams offense in a bit of a tougher spot because it's not going to be
41:09Devontae Adams against the Giants cornerbacks as the number one wide receiver.
41:12It's going to be him against Patrick Sertan. And the fact that you don't have Puka, now you are really putting Terrence
41:19Ferguson in a spot where, dude, you can't have the drops like you did last week.
41:24And obviously he did have a breakout. There were some plays that he left on the table, but he's going to be
41:30asked to do even more in this game. So the opportunity is going to be there for him.
41:35He's a fun second year player that we're excited about.
41:38But if he's seeing more coverage from some of these cornerbacks from the Denver Broncos, who else is there to step up?
41:45Is it going to be more of the tight ends?
41:48I think the answer might actually be, dude, Kyron and Coram, baby.
41:52They're just going to run ship all over this Broncos run defense that has shown at least in week one, they could not stop Kenneth Walker.
41:59And even last week, Bayshel Tootin had some decent runs against them.
42:03So I think that without Puka, you could see the Rams really lean more into their ground game, which up to this point, man, like lights out, dude.
42:11Kyron scoring touchdowns, Coram ripping off the big runs.
42:14Both guys last week, I think we're over seven yards per carry.
42:17Just the Giants had no answers to stop this run game.
42:21And both guys are playing so well. So I would expect the Rams run game to play a big factor offensively just based on the lack of Puka.
42:29So what do you think about it? It's an interesting dynamic where I feel like I would be like, oh, the Denver
42:36Broncos would be like a team that would want to kind of slow the pace down and the Rams would want to speed it up.
42:43But, you know, if the Rams are without some of that passing side and they're going to be running the crap out
42:50of the ball with a team like the Broncos who don't have much of a running game that are probably need to pass it.
42:57Like, how do you think this is going to play out?
43:00Do you think there's a potential for high scoring or do you think this is going to be just kind of a punch fest?
43:07That's a good question because it will be like a battle of contrasting.
43:11Styles. You would think the Rams will be run heavy and the Broncos a little pass heavy.
43:16I'm not sure. I'm just it's going to be I feel like we haven't gotten a good gauge of what the Rams are just yet.
43:23And certainly it's unfair to definitively judge them without their best defensive player in Myles Garrett and arguably their best offensive player in Puka Nakua.
43:31They were airdropped into Australia for that first game.
43:34And Sean McVay admitted this week that maybe that was a pretty dumb idea.
43:38So they were totally out of sorts for that game against the 49ers.
43:42Then week two against the Giants, things completely unravel with the Jackson Dart injury and no one in the Giants can cover Devontae Adams.
43:49And so that's just kind of a laugher. But like this is going to be a real test for them because Denver is a tough place to win.
43:57And this is going to be a really good defense.
44:00And I'm anxious to see how the Rams go about it this week.
44:04Final one is the Monday night game Philly in Chicago.
44:07So much. And this, by the way, could be a laugher.
44:10There's a high potential that this one is not a big matchup you want to pay attention to.
44:16But the reason we're locked into it, it's not really about the Eagles because Eagles are the Eagles.
44:21You know, Devontae Smith's out there. He's going to eat.
44:24Jalen Hurts, probably an opportunity for them to try out stuff if they want against this defense.
44:29If Saquon plays, it's great. But this is like a Bears situation.
44:32And the reason it's so much more of our eyes are attached to it, I guess they're still trying to like dangle Caleb out there a little bit.
44:41But Case Keenum has been working with the ones.
44:43Bajent has got the concussion. But you have this quarterback situation that is attached to nothing burgers.
44:49On the offense. Just nothing burgers. And Loveland can't get involved.
44:52Luther Burden's a disappointment. I guess there was some hubbub about, you know, Abe Aajent looking at Burden.
44:57But, you know, the offensive pieces, it looks rough.
45:00And I think that's where the big focus is.
45:03So, Bitsy, you can start us off here. Can the Bears revive all of their offensive pieces that we're so excited about?
45:09The passing offensive pieces. Because, by the way, I know they scored 59 points.
45:1359 points. Yeah, yeah. Let me be more clear about it before I get ripped on that.
45:18Duh. But I'm saying the offensive passing pieces. Burden, Adunze, Loveland.
45:22They're just not there. This is a horrible matchup for it to happen.
45:25And you might have Case Keenum, the third quarterback that's attached to it.
45:29So, can the Bears at all kind of revive this whole thing without Caleb Williams?
45:34I don't think we're going to see fireworks from the Bears passing game this week.
45:38I think they're going to try to run the ball.
45:41But here's the interesting thing. This is a revenge game for the Eagles.
45:45Because when these two teams played last year, it was the Black Friday game, if you'll recall.
45:50Day after Thanksgiving. The Bears ran all over the Eagles in Philadelphia.
45:54I think DeAndre Swift and Kyle Menonga both went over 100 yards that game.
45:58There were just explosive running plays against the Eagles left and right in that game.
46:02The Eagles defense hasn't forgotten what was done to them by the Chicago Bears last year.
46:07And now the Bears are in a spot where they are sort of forced to be run heavy.
46:12And look, Ben Johnson probably is the best running game designer of any coach in the NFL.
46:17But can you design an effective running game when you might not have a credible threat at quarterback?
46:23That's the question. So, the Eagles haven't looked great so far.
46:26They're 2-0. But man, like, they did not exactly get any style points with those wins over the Commanders and Titans.
46:32Like, they were just kind of do what it took and not much else.
46:36So, this is going to be a really interesting matchup.
46:39DeAndre Smith got some style points. But they're without Goddard as well.
46:43Erickson, do you think we can see a repeat of the Black Friday game and the Bears are going to be able to run?
46:50Or is this going to be an Eagles route?
46:53It was 125 yards for both Swift and Kyle Menonga.
46:56So, to Fitz's point, man, like, they had no answers.
46:59And that was on the road, right? This game is being played in Chicago.
47:03So, you have a little bit of the home field advantage there.
47:07I think Soldier Field is one of those places where there is a home field advantage.
47:11You look at how good the Bears have been in the Caleb Williams era against the spread.
47:16Best in the NFL since 2024. Bears covering the spread at home.
47:20Caleb Williams era. Even rookie year Caleb Williams, when he was bad, they were still good at covering the spread at home.
47:26So, just going to point a picture or painting the picture of how this team is a tough out regardless when they
47:33are playing in front of their Chicago fans. And the Eagles defense, usually viewed as their strength, specifically in their secondary, they
47:40have not been that great against the run the last two weeks.
47:43We talked about it when we were breaking down Bill heading into week two, the running back for the commanders.
47:49We're like, hey, Bill looks pretty good against the Eagles defense.
47:52Last week, you know who looked pretty good against the Eagles defense?
47:56Tony Pollard. Second half was like, okay. Like, you're seeing these guys rip off some big runs.
48:01And I looked at the two-week sample size. Eagles, ninth most rushing yards allowed this season.
48:06Fifth highest run rate faced. Despite the fact that they're not playing in games where they, or they have leads in a
48:12lot of these games, teams are still electing to run the football against them.
48:16And the eighth highest EPA per rush allowed. So, I agree with Fitz and Welsh about how they're going to try to run the rock here.
48:24And I think they might have success doing it.
48:27And what is the most demoralizing thing in football is we're going to run the ball.
48:32You know we're going to run the ball. And you can't stop us.
48:35And Ben Johnson is stubborn enough to continue to do that.
48:39So, yes, the Eagles have a vendetta against this Bears running attack.
48:42But I don't know if they're actually going to be able to stop it.
48:46So, that's kind of the angle I'm looking at here, especially them playing at home.
48:51So, I get the Case Keenum's third string quarterback.
48:54But I think you could still see this Bears rushing attack still be effective against an Eagles defense that may be a
49:00tad bit overrated after these two weeks. All I heard you say was Kalmanonga rushing yards over.
49:05That's the only thing I heard out of all that.
49:08Who's also on the injury report again this week.
49:11I know. I know. More of a competitive game that'll be fun.
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50:13Make the calls. I hit my make the call last week, by the way.
50:17I said the plus 4.5 Vikings were not only in play on the spread, but were a money line play.
50:23So thank you very much. I'll be honest with you.
50:26I don't remember what the hell you guys said, but I know I was super smart in that.
50:32I don't know if I'll be super smart this week.
50:35But, Pat, why don't you kick us off? Were you super smart last week?
50:39No, I was really dumb. I said Deshaun Watson was going to get benched.
50:43He winds up beating Baker May. Deshaun Watson is 8th in the league in passer rating right now.
50:48After that game against the Buccaneers. So, tough loss for the Buccaneers last week.
50:53All right, we'll make it up this week. Make it up this week.
50:56What's your big call? I'm going to stay on the quarterbacks, unwisely perhaps.
51:00I'm saying Patrick Mahomes throws for 400 plus yards against the Dolphins this week.
51:04The Chiefs offense has looked fabulous. I think having a legitimate running game with Kenneth Walker has opened things up for Patrick Mahomes.
51:11And this Dolphins secondary is the worst in the league.
51:14Maybe the worst in the league in the last 10 years.
51:18Like, this secondary is putrid. Yeah, who said that last week, Erickson?
51:21What? Who didn't say that? The Dolphins being terrible?
51:24I don't know. Who didn't? Oh, sad. It's right here.
51:27I like that call. I would only liked it more if you would have said 400 yards from Patrick Mahomes in the first half.
51:34That would have been the only thing that I would have liked a little bit more.
51:39Travis Kelsey to the moon on this one. That's a good call.
51:42Erickson, from what I remember, in my brain, you had a really good call last week as well, and you hit it.
51:49But I don't remember what the hell you said because I'm just thinking of commenting at rushing yards.
51:54I'm trying to look and see what I – because I literally don't remember what I said.
51:59I'm trying to look in the – Whatever you said was good.
52:03I remember you getting it. Yeah, well, just go with it, dude.
52:06You said something super smart. So say something smart again.
52:09I don't want to take credit if it wasn't smart because, I mean, I didn't have the super profitable week from picks inside.
52:16So let's go with this week, though. Quintra Judkins running back for the Cleveland Browns.
52:21Over 100 rushing yards. Two tutties against the Carolina Panthers atrocious run defense.
52:24That is the theme in our mascot for week three prop show on betting pros.
52:29Just tune in all Quintra Judkins. We contemplated if we could put together a card of ten straight plays of Quintra Judkins.
52:36I don't think we were able to do it.
52:38I think we got to like six, but we attempted it.
52:41But that will be our mascot there. And I almost put this on here, but I wanted to just do something else
52:48because I'm going to do it on the prop show.
52:51So mine, it's alluding a little bit to, I think, Fitzy, you were kind of talking about this earlier.
52:57I think this is going to be a get right spot for Drake May.
53:01Drake May, it's been bad. And we are seeing the fever pitch of conversation.
53:05I think all of us have seen the different, do I play Tyler Shuck over him?
53:10Should I trade Drake May? You can feel people are turning.
53:13And maybe one more game, if there's one more game, you're going to have the real turn.
53:18But I think this is a decent spot. Graded out wise, the Jacksonville Jaguars, as much as they're going to be playing
53:25on stopping some of the run, they currently rank 23 in wide receiver coverage, 23 in tight end coverage.
53:30And they're not covering the backs very well either.
53:33So I think this is an opportunity for them to have figured out all the mess over the last two weeks.
53:39Romeo Dobbs getting some confidence. They've got some of those.
53:42They don't have A.J. Brown, but they got some of the other pieces.
53:46Travion Henderson got right. Get him involved in the pass game.
53:49I think we're going to get the get right game so people stop complaining about Drake May.
53:54It'll be more vintage, 250 passing, two plus touchdowns.
53:57And I think he's going to do some stuff with his legs on the ground.
54:01So I'm going to say get right situation for Drake May.
54:05That might be the riskiest one. I found my prediction from last week.
54:09Okay. Was it good? Bengals beat the Texans. Let's go.
54:12Pretty good, right? That's all. We were pretty good.
54:14Just joking with Bogman. Bogman loves Denzel Boston this week and loves Casey Concepcion and loves the Judkins thing.
54:20And I'm like, okay. And he's like 27th on Deshaun Watson.
54:23I'm like, sorry, brother. You're going to have to love Deshaun Watson if you like.
54:28It would be really funny if Fitz is not wrong, but just was a week too early.
54:33Oh, it happens this week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because of that, it's a lot of three and outs.
54:38You know, the Boo Birds are going to be out.
54:41They're going to take a lot more than that one game to cure that for Shador Sanders.
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55:14That's Tailgate NFL. One thing to watch for this week, my last week was the Chargers.
55:19And that was kind of like exactly what it was.
55:22And Fitzy, I think you're going to kind of tail back in because I don't disagree.
55:27I think this is a, like Drake made, it's kind of a fever pitch situation.
55:31Like, can we keep going with this? So you're kind of jumping on from my last week one as well with the Charger conversation.
55:38Yeah, I just want to see if there are any signs of life for the Chargers.
55:43In their road game against the Bills, really tough spot after losing by double digits at home to the Cardinals and Raiders.
55:50Steve Palazzolo and Sam Monson mentioned this on their podcast this week.
55:53The last time a team lost two straight home games by double digits to teams that had had sub 200 winning percentages
56:00the season before was the 1926 Racine Tornadoes, who played one more game after those two losses and then folded as a franchise.
56:07The Racine Tornadoes? What a name. And the Racine Tornadoes, yes, there was wreckage for that franchise after those two losses.
56:13And things do not look good for the Chargers in the upcoming six or seven weeks because their schedule is brutal.
56:19Dude, are they going to be the team that loses all the games?
56:23Was I just like, I was on the West Coast, but I was just wrong?
56:28Who's going to miss the Chargers? Probably nobody because they don't have fans.
56:31They don't have home games. It's, ugh. They are.
56:34Well, no, they did have fans, but yeah, they kind of, when they displace themselves, people got kind of lost.
56:40And if you look at their injury report this week, CBS list, receipt, length.
56:44Like, it's brutal. Mm. Erickson, one thing to watch for week three for you?
56:48Jameis Winston. I mean, because if we get the fun Jameis Winston, he is must-watch TV, anything but Aaron Rodgers.
56:54Like, the total opposite. Whatever Aaron Rodgers is, you don't want to watch.
56:58Jameis Winston is what you want to watch. So if they unleash him, especially as a market favorite, 29 games as a
57:05market favorite, Jameis Winston is 8, 20, and 1 against the spread, 27%.
57:09He is 0-5 in his last five starts. They're favorites here.
57:12This should be fun for a myriad of reasons because he could be turnover machine.
57:16He could be throwing touchdowns with like neighbors, four range type of outcome game.
57:20And I want to see what happens. Dude, by the way, is there an actual better, like, yin and yang, like, exact opposite player?
57:28Like, not just from a game script perspective, but like, everybody hates Rodgers.
57:31Everybody loves Winston. The only thing they have in common is they both do talk a lot.
57:37It would be like if Rodgers never spoke and then Winston just kept talking.
57:41But everything about them, like, Winston can throw like four picks and everyone's like, man, I wish he would just do better because I just love that guy.
57:49Rodgers throws one at an ankle and everyone's like, damn, I'm out of here.
57:53Give me two hours. Like, because he sucks. Give me two hours.
57:57Yeah, it's crazy. They are total polar opposites. My thing to watch here, and I almost want to caveat this because mine
58:03is actually a question to you guys to end the show.
58:07Who can't recover from an 0-3 start? And there are five potential teams.
58:10I believe two of them are playing each other, or no, four.
58:14You've got the Chargers, the Texans, the Colts, and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
58:18I think you guys have placed a kind of a marker that maybe it's the Chargers, but I'm just curious to sit
58:24your take here and maybe we take out the Chargers.
58:27But Erickson, what team cannot recover in your mind from an 0-3 start out of that?
58:32And by the way, there's other 0-3 starts, but I meant like teams that, you know, have some juice to them and
58:39we thought we're going to be contenders. Again, the Chargers, Texans, Colts, and Tampa Bay.
58:43I don't think any of these teams can recover.
58:46Actually, except the Texans because they were 0-3 last year.
58:49So they're the only one that's safe and they could afford to lose here against the Colts.
58:54But all these other teams, the Colts are going 0-3.
58:57Their head coach, GM, is on the hot seat.
58:59Ballard could get axed if they start 0-3. That would not shock me, especially the way that this Alec Pierce situation seemingly
59:06was botched about when he got his ankle surgery, the contract.
59:09They brought him back and he gets re-injured and they're defending it.
59:13So they're on the hot seat. Todd Bowles, how bad this Buccaneers team has been.
59:170-11 against the spread their last 11 games. When you're considering expectation, no team has been worse.
59:22When you're just considering the talent on the roster than the Tampa Bay Buccaneers since the start of the second half of last season into this year.
59:30I'd like to say the Chargers could recover, but the schedule does them absolutely no favor.
59:35So even if the offense can start clicking in some way, shape, or form, just putting more on Justin Herbert's shoulders, man, the offensive line is banged up.
59:44They're not running the ball effectively. Mike McDaniel, what are we doing here?
59:47So I'm not hopeful about any of those teams except the Texans because we have proof of concept because they were only
59:54three last year and they ended up digging their way out of it and they should get Nico Collins back sometime and that'll give them a boost.
60:02I like how you turned it. Fitzy, you can do the same thing, but I'd ask you, because I have 18, I have one team here.
60:10I'm going to say, what is one team that you think cannot recover from an 0-3 start?
60:15Oh, like Erickson, same answer. The only one that actually can is the Texans because they have a special unit with their defense.
60:22All these other teams, I mean, the Colts might have the worst defense in the league.
60:26They are a disaster. And, you know, as banged up as they are offensively, like it's just, it's hard to see.
60:33Not only the Pierce injury, but like Daniel Jones, is he the same guy after the injury he sustained last year?
60:39And that's my answer. It's the Colts. And I'm the guy that was on here like, oh, Colts will be a little.
60:45They got up to a hot start last year and then they faltered.
60:49I don't think they can recover. I think the Bucs are a talented offensive team.
60:54They are kind of going the side of, I mean, their defense is pretty bad too.
60:58Baker's just got to get right. And I think they become more competitive.
61:02I might be giving too much credit to the Chargers, but I think they are also just like way too talented and
61:09way too good of coaching that's existing out there for them to not be competitive.
61:13Colts defense is buns. They're a horrible defense. They're missing playmakers.
61:17They can't do anything offensively. There's no creativity. And one of the biggest things Erickson and I talked about, I think yesterday,
61:23is that one of the most important things is they've got to be able to, it's like shapes, like in pitching, in
61:30baseball, you would talk about pitcher shapes. And what that usually is, is like being able to change the eye.
61:36There's no shapes on their offense. What I mean by that is they can't stretch the field.
61:41Their shape is this right now. Great. You want to live by Jonathan Taylor, but you want to be able to spread out the defense.
61:48You want to get the ball to Tyler Warren and Josh Downs.
61:52How are they going to like be a force to spread out the ball deep?
61:56They're not creative offensively. Their defense is just a turnstile.
61:59So I just don't think the Colts are a team, unfortunately, of this list.
62:03If I had to only pick one, I don't know that they can recover from an 0-3 start.
62:09But what do you guys think? Drop it below.
62:11Which of those teams cannot recover? Do you think Jameis Winston is going to get like old Jameis Winston?
62:17And kind of same related, if the Chargers don't show signs of life, we might have to add them to the list.
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