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0:09Welcome to another season. It's the 2026 edition of the Sunday Recap with Fantasy Pros.
0:14I'm your host Scott Bogman, joined by Tara Roberts and Dr.
0:17Deepak Chona. Tara, first Sunday of the year, got it under your belt.
0:22I know you were disgusted before we were live here with your Packers, but how did your fantasy week go for you here?
0:29Great fantasy week, great DFS week. Was really hoping that we could get this Washington to overtime, but overall good.
0:36Scott Fishbowl team with Chris Olave, Tyler Shuckstack is like the nastiest combination that ever existed.
0:41Fun. Speaking of disgusting, that looked real bad in the first half.
0:45Yeah. Here we are. Here we are. Dr. Deepak Chona here to tell us about the injuries today.
0:51How was your first Sunday of the year, my friend?
0:54I pretty much ride or die with the Texans, so that pretty much tells you the story, but I did like CJ Stroud.
1:02He looked pretty good. He did. Yeah, he did look good.
1:05The defense. The defense. What was happening there? I can't believe it.
1:09Yeah, I didn't see much from him. I was very, very surprised, but we'll see if it's week one.
1:15Uh, well, of course we are going to go over the injuries while we have Dr.
1:21Deepak Chona here. We're going to give you the storylines with myself and Tara.
1:25We're going to look at the panic meter, see who we are actually panicking on after week one and give you guys
1:33some time to ask us some questions at the end.
1:36We're trying to get this all done before Sunday night football kicks off.
1:40So let's get to the injuries to start here.
1:43And we had a decent amount in week one, not as bad as it could be, but, uh, you know, just to
1:50start here, AJ Brown, obviously on the Wednesday game goes down with the ankle injury, uh, Brock Bowers before the season starts,
1:58which, Oh, this one made me sick. The meniscus trim Sam Donald with the glute injury.
2:03We're calling it now. We thought it might've been a really rough, uh, hip injury here, but it looks like it's a glute injury.
2:11Uh, Zay flowers was tearing it up in the first half against the Colts before leaving with a hamstring injury.
2:17Kyler Murray left with a concussion injury as well.
2:20So, uh, Deepak let's start, let's start with AJ Brown, I guess.
2:24Um, what are your thoughts on this ankle injury?
2:27And it looks like he's going to be out at least a month.
2:31Is that right? Yeah, they're already reporting that this is going to take at least six weeks.
2:37And given that timeline, uh, straight from the jump, we can kind of assume this is a severe high ankle.
2:43That's not good news for even when he does return, even if it takes that six weeks, which is pretty reasonable expectation.
2:51That typically causes a four to six week, pretty serious production hit as well.
2:55And during that window, that's when you're worried about re-injury.
2:59So there's a lot of kind of variables to consider here.
3:02I would say you're probably not getting much trade value for an AJ Brown, but, uh, this is pretty bad news all around.
3:10Tara, who do you pivot to if AJ Brown is out?
3:13Cause Romeo Dobbs look like garbage. Uh, Mac Hollins is on the field more.
3:18Uh, is there anyone in new England that you feel good about picking up with AJ Brown?
3:23Yeah, I am going to advocate for Mac Hollins.
3:26I mean, uh, Romeo Dobbs, what they paid for him.
3:30They're not going to ice him out completely. He'll get another opportunity.
3:34But at the end of the day, he has had dropped problems before.
3:38This is not a new issue in consistency. So if you're looking to waivers and thinking like, let me try and capitalize.
3:45Cause I've seen a lot of like people saying it might be Kyle Williams time.
3:50No, I genuinely think we're going back to what we had last year where we'll have Mac Hollins.
3:56But now that we don't have Keishon booty, a thinned out receiving core, it'll allow for a higher consistent snap count.
4:03And I do think that's the one that you want for a flex option in deeper leagues.
4:08But at the end of the day for more shallow leagues, you might want to look elsewhere.
4:14And Deepak with Brock Bowers being down, uh, you know, mayor looked okay, but, uh, how, how long are we going to
4:21expect Brock Bowers to miss here with this meniscus trim?
4:25You know, so they, they've come out and said that mostly driven from his camp.
4:29They're saying he's hoping to come back week two, potentially.
4:33Uh, the data says that's a little optimistic. Certainly has been done.
4:37Uh, however, more likely would be week three here.
4:40Uh, typically does take about four weeks. So he'd be already kind of pushing up the timeline a bit.
4:46Uh, and then when he does come back, the return to kind of pre-injury production level is pretty quick.
4:52Usually takes just about two games to ramp up.
4:55The real concern here is not so much the short term in my eyes, but the longterm there, this is potentially the
5:02same knee that had the PCL from last year.
5:05And then now he has some damage to the shock absorber and they basically go in and trim that.
5:11So you can imagine your left with less shock absorber in that knee going forward.
5:16And therefore it does, uh, tend to be associated with shorter primes and more, uh, missed games due to injury, uh, down
5:24the road in this type of setting. So longterm, a little bit of concern.
5:28You hate to see that. Oh man, that's re this really stinks for me.
5:33I have Bowers everywhere. Tara, how, after week one, is there someone that you're looking at adding?
5:38Maybe I guess Sikhi had a big week, obviously, uh, Kincaid did, but he's owned everywhere.
5:44Fryman scored a touchdown. Sadiq scored a touchdown. Anyone that jumps off the page at you?
5:49Yeah. You know, I think you might just want to try and roll the dice with Michael Mayer.
5:55Uh, we did see decent volume out of him, seven targets.
5:58It wasn't super productive in terms of yardage 32 yards, but, um, that was the case for all of the receiving options really.
6:06So it might just been one of those games where it was a big gente game in other situations where they're playing
6:13from behind what should happen a lot more. We can see them push the ball a little bit more.
6:19So I was encouraged to see that level of usage from him right off the bat.
6:25So that if you have to make a pivot, that would probably be the direction that I would go.
6:31I think the Sikhi thing, we might want to watch the Sikhi thing.
6:35Cause maybe that's a, that might be a Tampa Bay matchup thing.
6:39So maybe that's a tight ends against Tampa Bay thing to watch out for.
6:44I don't think that that's going to be consistent.
6:47Very, very well could be, um, Deepak. Let's talk about Zay going down Zay flowers with the hamstring injury.
6:53Um, he was really, really tearing it up, uh, at the beginning of this game here and, uh, pulled his hamstring.
7:00Do we know how long this is going to be or typical of these injuries?
7:05Yeah. So consider that this is a re aggravation of an injury he's been dealing with since probably August.
7:11It looks like he was limited on the practice.
7:14Reports to start this week and then kind of ramped his way to full, uh, with that being said, you know, re
7:21aggravations typically take longer than the initial injury. So initial injury would average about two weeks, uh, with re aggravations.
7:28You're usually looking at three to five. It's unclear, like to what degree the severity is on this hamstring.
7:34So we just have to watch for that, but you'd have to imagine they want this player with them in the home stretch.
7:41So they may not be eager to rush him back.
7:45I would expect at least a couple of weeks out.
7:48Uh, Tara, in the meantime, are you looking to pick up anyone on the Ravens or is there someone else that caught your eye this week?
7:57Oh, I love me some Jacoby, uh, Jacoby, at least so many Jacobis now Jacoby lane.
8:02Yeah. Bursette Myers. Jeez. Um, Jacoby lane, um, was very pro Jacoby lane.
8:06I'm very encouraged by what we saw from him this week because the stats aren't going to pop out to you.
8:13He had a touchdown was called back from a hold on the offensive line.
8:18Um, he had multiple targets from Lamar Jackson in the red zone.
8:22I think he has separated himself from Rashad Bay.
8:24It's early, right? But based off what I've seen, it looks like Lamar does have that initial trust with him.
8:31And that's excellent to see in a rookie. They're very different players.
8:35So this will not be a one for one replacement in terms of him being able to step in and fulfill Zay
8:42Flowers, but hopefully a volume shift in terms of more towards him.
8:46So that one, regardless of the Zay Flowers situation is one that I was already looking at and seeing as a rookie that isn't a promising offense.
8:55Lamar Jackson looked on fire. That's one that I would make the investment into.
9:00Derek. And I got Derek Henry and at least one week this week with his three scores, uh, Deepak, the two quarterbacks
9:07that went down, uh, Sam Darnold with the glute Kyler Murray with the concussion.
9:11What are the varying degrees of, uh, missed time on these?
9:15Yeah. Kyler Murray doesn't have a substantial concussion history that we know of.
9:19So the average time is going to be about nine days, eight to nine.
9:24So most players do miss one week, uh, about a third are able to come back without missing any time.
9:30So in most cases he would miss week two and come back week three with regard to Sam Darnold.
9:37The question is a little bit atypical of an injury based on the reporting.
9:41He's now getting a fourth opinion. So getting that many opinions suggests to me that this is on the higher end of
9:49severity and he's kind of considering what routes in terms of usually probably surgical or non-surgical he can really go.
9:55Uh, my guess is this is a multi-week absence.
9:58They have basically ruled him out for week two, at least informally.
10:02And I would be pretty surprised if he came back week three, but I also wouldn't be surprised here if this ends up on the IR.
10:10Hmm. So which quarterbacks terror are we looking to pick up in the meantime?
10:15I mean, uh, Wentz didn't look bad in the second half at least.
10:19So, uh, but that seems like it's not a long absence.
10:23Brissette looked okay. Speaking of Jacobi's anybody else, uh, off the top of your mind, uh, are you adding for these injured quarterbacks maybe in a super flex?
10:32Yeah, it's tough because I, I, in one QB, I know.
10:36Yeah. We wouldn't really be messing around, but in super flex in terms of who you would be able to turn to,
10:43I do think it would have to be Carson Wentz as the only ad, or you could just do the direct one for one with true lock.
10:52Hmm. Ah, injuries. We love it to start the season here.
10:55Uh, Deepak, a couple other ones, just if you have any thoughts on that, we didn't get to the graphic.
11:02Uh, Ladd McConkie left, looked like he got hit in the back and then they called that a chest injury.
11:09With the ankle, you know, um, to a left BTJ left with a shoulder and return.
11:14Are any of these looking like long-term concerning injuries to you?
11:17It's triveling. I think you can say certainly is it's a, uh, deltoid sprain.
11:22So it's basically a variant of ankle sprain. We don't see that often.
11:26It's about, they're saying about a month out. And with that in mind, uh, that, that typically will carry some lingering hit
11:34when he comes back, not as severe as what we were kind of talking about with AJ Brown, but, uh, but somewhere in between there.
11:42So with that being said, that's the one I'd worry about the most McConkie, it looked like he was holding his hip when he went down.
11:50He got took a big hit to the kind of lower back area.
11:55And them calling it a chest makes me almost wonder like, did he, are they talking about a rib potential injury?
12:01He didn't come back as far as I'm aware.
12:04And that the concern would be if he has a rib fracture, then he's probably not coming back immediately.
12:11Uh, with that average would be two to three weeks out.
12:14But my hope is that it's not that severe.
12:17And if he avoided fracture, it could just be a big hit contusion, bruising type thing.
12:22And more of a, like a pain control issue that he could come back from structurally without a problem.
12:29Yeah, bad day for the chargers for sure here.
12:32A good day for the Niners outside of the stripling stuff on Thursday.
12:36So, uh, but Deepak, thank you so much for joining us and filling us in on all these injuries.
12:42And we are sending you away to get back to saving people.
12:46So appreciate you, uh, joining us here, sir. And we will see you next week.
12:51Uh, we are going to get to the storylines, Tara and I, uh, right after this ad for Sharp AI.
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14:11What do you have for number one here? And I don't know how I messed this up.
14:16Here we go. I got it. I got it.
14:19I'm fixing it. There we go. What is number one on the storylines here?
14:24Storyline number one is Swift and JT. The touchdowns were absolutely flowing from both of them.
14:29The first one that I want to talk about, though, is going to be DeAndre Swift because I moved him up a lot in rankings.
14:37You know, we were drafting him towards the mid kind of like around RB 18 area.
14:43I moved him up this week because really like the matchup for one.
14:47And because I think sometimes we forget that Chicago is an extremely run heavy team.
14:52They can pass. They can put up volume when they need to.
14:56But pass volume can dip for them because they are too deep at running back.
15:01They like to lean on the ground game in between Swift and Kyle Menongai.
15:05They were very aggressive in top five and rush attempts last year.
15:09So I'm not surprised that this happened. DeAndre Swift was one of my favorite value picks for a guy that you could
15:16draft just a little bit later in the mid rounds and then feel in fourth or fifth.
15:22And then feel really good about him as an RB two with potential RB one upside.
15:27So he just really showcased exactly what we were expecting in a very good game.
15:32I will say it was a great matchup. So we do have to be a little bit careful because we did see plenty of involvement from Kyle Menongai.
15:41And that was good to see with him coming off of the injury.
15:46But at the end of the day, beautiful day for Swift and then beautiful day for Jonathan Taylor as well.
15:52Honestly, Derek Henry. I mean, running backs working. They just really today was about proving that early investment in running backs was
15:59the way to go rather than waiting with a few exceptions into that dreaded later dead zone.
16:05So JT looking good with Daniel Jones back. Offense was flowing, moving very well.
16:10He didn't put up a massive volume game. Daniel Jones didn't.
16:13But at the end of the day, it was really good to see that level of production.
16:19Checkdowns to JT as well. So just a very encouraging performance that we should see continue on through the rest of the season.
16:26Yeah, the offense looked OK. But the defense for the Colts did not look OK.
16:31And I know everyone in the chat, everyone is bringing up Colson Loveland.
16:35We will absolutely get to Colson Loveland and Jamar Chase in the panic meter part of the show here.
16:42But now we are going over kind of the positive stuff in the storylines.
16:46What's number two for you, Tara? Number two is Gibbs.
16:50Big day without David Montgomery. A massive day. Volume.
16:53They were not kidding. You know, I know people got concerned in terms of just how much workload are they going.
16:59Not concerned, but just kind of wondering, like, how far is it going to push with workload on Jameer Gibbs?
17:06I mean, he was pushing 30 carries, 150 yards, multiple touchdowns, caught passes as well, per his typical.
17:12But really, just the beauty on the ground was incredible.
17:15And then on the opposite end, David Montgomery as well.
17:18And I have to do an apology to David Montgomery because I was skeptical.
17:23In my bold predictions, I said that, you know, he might just be putting up, you know, a RB3 production.
17:30And for him to come out right off the bat with some still reasonable involvement from Woody Marks dominating at the goal
17:37line like that heavy with 20 carries. I was very impressed by the work that he did.
17:42And honestly, it was a great matchup. So this was a good week to utilize.
17:47Monty, he was a top 20 for me in ranking.
17:51So massively overperformed. That was a safe start and a good matchup.
17:55But to see this level of output, especially because we weren't expecting this to be a massive offensive game from both of these teams.
18:02It was like the supposed to be the defensive bowl and Buffalo's defense and Houston's defense.
18:08And then we just had offenses lighting it up both ways.
18:11So that was, yeah, I was like, well, okay, that was interesting.
18:15That, that, uh, that touchdown, um, to Shakir, uh, it looked like the Stefan Diggs play where, uh, Blankenship went for the pick and just whiffed on it.
18:24And then you just turned around and it's nothing but green grass.
18:28That was a great play. And then right before the, the bill scored, you know, what ended up being the game winning
18:36touchdown Lasser dropped that pick in the end zone.
18:39And he had it hit him right in the hands, man.
18:42Josh Allen gave it away and you couldn't seal it.
18:45Yeah. That's a disappointing, uh, loss for Texans fans here.
18:49Speaking of that game, how about Dalton Kincaid with this breakout?
18:52Yes. Uh, six targets, five catches, 130 yards, made a couple of huge catches.
18:57I was super skeptical. I'll, I'll eat crow on this one, uh, on Dalton Kincaid, because it was like, since he got
19:04hurt early in 2024, he had been in and on over 50% of snaps in like, I like six games.
19:11Since then he'd been dealing with his PCL injury.
19:14He decided not to have surgery on it. I thought everything was going to be a little more negative for Kincaid, but
19:21he torched what we thought was going to be the best defense or at least the second best defense behind the Rams.
19:28And that looks like an aberration at this point.
19:31But, um, Kincaid looked great. Is this something to build on?
19:35Is this something you would maybe go, maybe I go ahead and see if anybody wants to bite on this.
19:41Maybe a trade action for Dalton Kincaid a little bit, or, you know, Hey, look, uh, we got hard O McDermott out of there.
19:49Now it's Joe Brady letting them sling it. Uh, are we more positive on Kincaid after this huge game?
19:55Yeah. You spoiled me there. Um, I do the five, uh, moves to make video that drops on Tuesday and sell Dalton
20:03Kincaid will be in on it because you were right in practice.
20:07And I'm, um, exactly with you on that in terms of the injuries, the fact that back-to-back seasons, the very, uh, was
20:14it our, uh, tight end 20 tight and 30 back-to-back seasons.
20:17He was already being drafted above his ceiling, which was what we saw in his rookie season.
20:23So theoretically there's, you know, this higher upside for him, but I actually liked Kincaid this week as a start.
20:30He's a top 10, um, option for me. I'm not shocked at all.
20:34The portion of this game that I was shocked and maybe this is honestly, it could have been different and right in practice.
20:41Um, if we didn't have, I can't remember which, um, back it was, but the big DJ Moore catch where, um, whatever
20:49back it was went for the interception whiffed, just barely missed it.
20:52And then it was just an easy touch and catch and run for DJ Moore for the big touchdown.
20:59If that didn't happen, theoretically, it would have played out like we thought in terms of the tougher coverage being on DJ
21:06Moore and a bigger opportunity for a guy like Dalton Kincaid.
21:10So I'm not surprised that he had this game against Houston.
21:13I would not expect this level of consistent, this level of upside on a consistent basis.
21:18We do have to remember like in, he just in preseason was dealing with what was, um, um, a little injury as well.
21:26I don't trust him overall. So this is a good opportunity to get out of there because we're not going to see
21:33consistent 300 plus yard games from Josh Allen. We didn't get a heavy, um, production on the ground from James Cook.
21:40He didn't have a touchdown. He had 57 yards.
21:43Josh Allen did run a little bit, but 23 yards.
21:46So overall, and you know, his touchdowns as well, but overall there should be more run volume in this offense.
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23:53I see what you're saying here. What's number four for you here?
23:57Number four is the Jacksonville Committee of Doom. I hesitated to tell anyone to start Basial Tootin this week because my fear
24:05was that this was genuinely going to be a split in this first week.
24:09And hopefully we would be able to gleam something of this.
24:13And I don't know if we did, unfortunately, because if you look at the box score, you can take away would be OK.
24:20Basial Tootin, 15 carries, 66 rushing yards. He caught a pass.
24:24Chris Rodriguez, six carries, 23 yards. OK, it's Tootin's backfield.
24:27Not quite. The first half, this was evenly split.
24:30And visually, it was looking like it was tilting a little bit more towards Rodriguez and in the red zone as well.
24:37And I don't think we got the best showcase of really what this split will ultimately be.
24:43And only one check down, although that's not unusual because Trevor Lawrence is not a massive check down guy.
24:49He's more of a meaningful check down guy. It's not as if Travis Etienne, HN, whatever, had massive receptions.
24:55They were just very critical, big plays and touchdown opportunities.
24:59So it was more even in the first half.
25:02Rodriguez did play through the end. So this was not you can't look at it and say like, oh, second half.
25:09They really just decided that they wanted to pull Rodriguez.
25:12So maybe it is his backfield. I think it's very split.
25:15And I don't think we got the answer we were looking for here.
25:20Our answer was Parker Washington. That was our answer.
25:23He looked great. That touchdown catch. I mean, he stretched out every inch he possibly could to get that.
25:29What a beautiful, beautiful catch by Parker Washington, who he made those in college, too.
25:34Yeah. The official split. I'm not sure if you said it or not.
25:38It was 28 snaps for Tootin and 23 for C-Rod with 10 routes run for Tootin and 12 for C-Rod.
25:45So, you know, not exactly 50-50, but as close as you can get without being exactly 50-50.
25:50So, yeah, Parker Washington looked great. BTJ left. You know, Myers did have a couple more snaps in Washington and BTJ got hurt.
25:58So I do wonder what that looks like in the future.
26:01But Parker Washington, by far the best wide receiver out there for the Jags.
26:06And then the last one up, what is number five on your storylines here?
26:11Number five, I was a little bit debating, but we did a lot of positive stuff.
26:16So let's do a little womp womp. Justin Herbert and the Chargers.
26:20I hate it for anyone because I know there were people that had the Chargers in their survivor bowls and yikes, yikes, yikes.
26:27Oh, they lost. This was supposed to be the big coming out of this new offense under Mike McDaniel and the Justin Herbert volume and big plays.
26:36And I was all in on Quentin Johnston and Quentin Johnston just got nothing.
26:41Like, where were the big plays downfield? Quentin Johnston.
26:44And it was and we didn't, you know, Amari and Hampton, 12 carries, 43 yards, touchdown.
26:49The touchdown was great. But I thought, you know, initially like, OK, we're off to it to be a nice run heavy game.
26:56Big game from Hampton that amounted to basically nothing.
26:59And the offense just kind of dwindled. Vlad McConkie had the wonderful day.
27:04It was good to see him bounce back and pay off for where we drafted him for sure.
27:10But the injury we already talked about it. This was just incredibly, incredibly frustrating.
27:14Arande Gadsden didn't pop. We had usage of a David Njoku.
27:18This was just such a messy, messy day that was underwhelming in a matchup with Arizona, which is arguably the easiest, one
27:25of the easiest defensive matchups that we're going to have unless this defense somehow improved under under our nose and we just didn't really notice.
27:33This is a little bit of a red flag for us that, oh, maybe we might have to come to a reckoning,
27:40unfortunately, with Justin Herbert and the Chargers. Yeah. A lot of, you know, I guess maybe you can say they're adjusting to a new offense, right?
27:49We could give him that excuse at least for week one.
27:53But it's the Cardinals. Baby, you gotta go. You should be, you know.
27:57I'm live right now. Terrible. But they survived the Falcons.
28:00You know what I mean? Like you should survive the Cardinals.
28:04Exactly. At any point. So maybe they're better than we thought.
28:07But yeah, that was it was a bad day to be starting Chargers here.
28:12So tough day. Lad had all the targets. Shut the door.
28:16All of the targets. He had all the targets before going down.
28:20So just not a good day for the Chargers overall.
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29:02All right, everybody. Go to the chat. Tell us who you are panicking about after week one and we will get after it.
29:09Let's just go ahead and start with Colson Loveland because I feel like that is every single comment.
29:15Is Colson Loveland getting blanked? Kyle Pitts getting blanked.
29:18So what are our concerns about? Let's just start with those tight ends.
29:22Colson Loveland and Kyle Pitts. Oh, my God. Fifty nine points for Chicago.
29:26And Colson Loveland was non-existent. He was there. He was out there.
29:30I mean, he played. He was a starter. He was blocking on that comeback touchdown very well.
29:36Yeah. In our points per blocking leagues, he was cool.
29:39Good Lord. I will say that this is an opportunity because it wasn't just like Rome.
29:45Now, Rome was clearly a little bit limited. But Burden was unimpressive in terms of volume.
29:50I would take a look at this game and recognize that, again, we do have a Panthers defense that does tilt stronger
29:57in terms of coverage to receivers and pass catchers in general.
30:01So perhaps we just do a little bit of a like a big and I see a comment saying, you know, Caleb Loveland or Caleb.
30:09Caleb missed him on his wide open target, his only wide open target.
30:13So, yeah, I don't think we need to panic panic yet.
30:17This could be a good buy low opportunity because this was very peculiar.
30:21And I just can't fathom that we are looking at Kalief Raymond as the leader for the room.
30:27Like, this can't. This can't be. I completely agree with that.
30:30And I think, you know, like the Kyle Pitts thing, we can at least make an excuse for Kyle Pitts.
30:37Yeah. Like you have the third string quarterback in here because Penix wasn't able to go to a got hurt in practice.
30:44And even Cooper Rush wasn't 100 percent because he had back spasms the day before the game or two days before the game.
30:52So I thought at some point they might go to Strand.
30:55But, you know, so Kyle Pitts kind of has a built in excuse of working with Cooper Rush and Rush not getting
31:03a lot of first team reps up until like he got nothing in camp.
31:07I was listening to one of my Steelers podcast before and they have a Falcons beat writer on.
31:13And he was talking about how a strand or Rush basically got no work with the first team before this week.
31:20So it was going to be rough this week.
31:23But I don't have a lot of excuses for Colson Loveland.
31:27Right. Just a bad game. I think we chalk it up to that and we move forward.
31:32I would buy low just like you said. A lot of other guys here getting, you know, the panic meter.
31:39Let's just talk about a couple offenses overall. Cleveland's offense and Tennessee's offense.
31:43They looked pathetic and so bad. I mean, Cleveland scored late on that Denzel Boston bomb.
31:48Yeah, Tennessee. Man, I thought Cam Ward was going to be a thing maybe this year.
31:54He looked miserable in the preseason and he transferred all that into week one and they got smoked by the Jets.
32:00Now the Jets had a nice scoring week one last year, too, where they had over 30 points.
32:06And then disappeared. You know, it's week one for everybody here.
32:10But what are your thoughts on the players you're rostering on Cleveland and Tennessee?
32:15Cleveland, I am surprised that then I get it.
32:17Why they let Deshaun play the entire game. It's not fair to Shader to say, hey, second half, go out here and whatever.
32:25Right. But I find it hard to believe. Maybe they give him one more shot because Jacksonville is a legitimately tough defense that does not get enough credit.
32:34But at the end of the day, I don't see Deshaun long.
32:38I don't know if that deep ball can save him.
32:41Congrats. Yay. Denzel Boston and all love you. I like Denzel Boston and Casey Concepcion in this offense.
32:47Should or Deshaun does seem to have a preference for Jerry Judy.
32:51I get it. They're buddies. Clearly, he has a preference for them.
32:55Judy has a preference for him. My hope is that we still invest in specifically Casey Concepcion and Denzel Boston from a
33:02pure talent perspective and hope that that pushes forward.
33:05Once we get the transition to Shader Sanders, who can more consistently put like he's not perfect.
33:11Right. It's not going to be this transition to a wonderful offense, but he is more beneficial for the receivers pushing the ball downfield.
33:19And I think we'll see more consistency out of him.
33:22So we may not get it next week, but I find it hard to believe that Deshaun is long for this world.
33:29So let's let's let's let's just not panic too much right now.
33:33So, um, Tennessee Ward 19 to 32, 140 and a score Pollard, Wandale five for 38 Pollard at seven carries for 35
33:41yards and a catch for negative one. I mean, it was all bad in Tennessee.
33:45So if we're like a five on Cleveland overall, because we think there's going to be a quarterback switch there where we hadn't on Tennessee one through 10.
33:55We're like, we're like a, we're like a eight.
33:58Yeah. Yeah. Don't go too high, but it can't be lower than a seven.
34:02Yeah. My hope was that what we saw, I mean, the preseason was very clear.
34:07And my hope was that one that we would have some kind of game plan to help ease Cam Ward and get him more on rhythm.
34:16It is a new offense. So maybe he's struggling to learn.
34:19Perhaps that's it. But I find it very hard to trust anyone in that offense.
34:24We knew that there was going to be this split of Pollard and Spears, but we, our hope was, you know, okay,
34:31they move the ball a little bit better than they did last year.
34:36Pollard did have some upside and easier matchups, goal line priority.
34:39So, okay, maybe he's workable as a flex option.
34:42But looking at that receiving core, I've got some concerns and those concerns are not, oddly enough, don't remotely involve Calvin Ridley.
34:49Thank goodness for that. A lot of Alec Allier-Mainer.
34:52We saw a little bit of Chimri Dike. We know that Wandale Robinson is there getting peppered with useless targets.
34:59And then we've got Cardinal Tate. And it's just, it feels like this could be a wee bit messy.
35:05Like if I was like, because I, from a betting perspective, I had talked about like, okay, Cardinal Tate could get rookie
35:12of the year from the perspective of having the same path as Ted Arroa McMillan.
35:17But you don't have that same path if we have all that usage from all these other receivers and you still have
35:25a quarterback that is not pushing aggressive volume. Unlike a Ted Arroa McMillan where it's just him and Jalen Coker.
35:31So, it's okay if the volume is a little bit bleak because it's a very narrow target funnel.
35:37Yeah, it was, those two offenses were just hard to watch, right?
35:41Like watching paint dry here. We've got a lot of comments about Jamar Chase, who had four targets, two catches and 12 yards.
35:49And Terry McLaurin, who I didn't have it on my sheet because we started the show before that game ended.
35:55Four targets, the same deal, basically. Four targets, two catches for 14 yards.
35:59So, Chase and McLaurin, you know, I'm definitely not hitting the panic meter on Chase yet.
36:05They won. They won going away. The defense looked way better for Cincinnati.
36:09Cincinnati. Chase is going to be fine, in my opinion.
36:12So, that's like a one or a two to me.
36:15Are you on board with that for Chase? Yeah, and, you know, he was dealing with that injury.
36:21So, perhaps there were some levels of limitations there as well.
36:25I'm not panicking over what happened with Chase. What about Terry McLaurin, though?
36:29Because, I mean, it was a tough matchup against a good Philly defense here.
36:34And we've heard about all the problems with Washington.
36:37They seem to start clicking a little bit in the second half.
36:41Yeah. But it was all going to digs. It felt like Antonio Williams had a couple nice catches down the stretch there.
36:48So, Terry McLaurin just got locked up by Quentin Mitchell.
36:51That's basically what it was, right? Yeah, I think that's what it is.
36:55And the fact that we had a lot of that usage for Antonio Williams tells you, who I do clearly love, tells
37:03you that we might, that might have just been a matchup kind of situation.
37:07So, because we didn't have any kind of preseason indication that Williams was making these aggressive moves towards being a consistent, possibly leading the receiver.
37:16So, no, I think it was definitely more of a Philadelphia secondary matchup kind of situation.
37:21So, but it is a reminder that there are other bodies there.
37:25We did, did we have a little injury from Chig, I think, at the end there?
37:30But there are other bodies. I didn't see it if we did.
37:34I think we might have. But there are other bodies there with digs and Antonio Williams looking good.
37:40So, in terms of volume, it may not be that massive, massive upside that we were hoping for the return to what
37:47we saw during Jaden Daniels' rookie season with Terry.
37:50Ezra asked about Devon Achan. 11 for 36. He had five catches, or five targets, four catches, 30 yards.
37:56Malik Will's first start, you know, the Raiders did get to him five times eventually.
38:01I didn't have, I had IDP league with Max Crosby.
38:04I'm like, where is he? He hasn't shown up.
38:07And then here he is in the second half.
38:10Had a huge second half. But, yeah, not a great look from the Dolphins, you know, new offense and new coaching staff and all that.
38:19Yeah, that felt like it didn't feel like a Malik issue.
38:22It didn't feel like an Achan issue. It felt like an offensive line issue.
38:27So, hopefully this is something that they can coach up and get working and functioning better.
38:32Especially, hey, maybe Max Crosby, you know, was Raiders defense.
38:35Maybe it's back to a more competent level. Maybe the Rams reinvest after sending Miles Garrett to the IR.
38:42Apparently he nixed a trade to the Rams. That came out the other day.
38:46Jonathan Brooks. Now, Jonathan Brooks, I understand he's just a little limited coming in here anyway.
38:51But only four for 14. He did have one big catch for 48 yards, but only five touches in this game.
38:58Chuba had the two scores. Are we worrying about Jonathan Brooks on a scale of 1 to 10?
39:04Or are we chalking this up more to them slow rolling him being questionable coming in?
39:09I think slightly slow roll. But, again, he's not a startable RB2 right now as long as Chuba Hubbard.
39:16You have to, for him to get to that level, he has to take the job.
39:21And Chuba looked really good today. So I think he'll continue to contribute.
39:25But at the end of the day, if you were planning on this being something you can trust as a weekly starter,
39:32you might want to start looking elsewhere trying to make some moves.
39:36But don't bail out. Don't panic. Yeah, I agree with that.
39:40Before we move on to questions from the chatters here, anybody else you want to put the panic meter on or talk about?
39:47I mean, Drake London. But, again, that was with the backup quarterback.
39:51Devontae Adams, but apparently lack of sleep. We talked about Romeo Dobbs a little bit earlier.
39:57Rico was second fiddle to Jalen Warren. Anybody else you're panicking about?
40:01You know, Marvin Harrison Jr. was low-key interesting. The Kendrick board.
40:04You know what? It took me back to like, oh, wait a second.
40:08I was a Kendrick-born truther back in New England.
40:11They did mess him over. Wait a second. That happened.
40:15And then I was like, wait a second. He did play with Jacoby Brissett.
40:19Wait a second. Yeah, Marv. Oh, man. And it doesn't matter.
40:23Like, I've said so many things about Marv. I get it on both sides.
40:28When he does good, I get people like, see, we can't get rid of him.
40:32When he does bad, it's like, I told you he wasn't going to have a good year.
40:38So, you know, my opinions on Marv are kind of down the middle.
40:42But he looked not good today. So, I would say, would we put that at five or would we go to like maybe a six?
40:51Oh, well, yeah, we'll tilt it up to a six.
40:54We might push it to a seven because at the end of the day, it's always Trey McBride.
41:00And Jeremiah Love looked good. So, I mean, there's so many bodies.
41:04It doesn't have to be Marvin Harrison Jr. by any means.
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41:43Now, as we are going along, we are going to get these answered until the start of Sunday night football.
41:50So, we are going to start here. Let me get to these questions.
41:54Is Marvin Harrison Jr. a drop right now from J-Mac?
41:57No, I don't think we can because Jacoby Brissett did exactly what I expected him.
42:02A little less. I said, you know, 40 attempts, but he was right under 37.
42:07So, volume. But again, that was game script since they mollywomped the Chargers there.
42:12So, Jacoby Brissett's throwing for volume. Don't drop yet.
42:15Not yet. Just hold on. Bench, but don't drop.
42:18Yeah. Bench and don't drop, I think, is probably the best way to go here.
42:23I'm trying to scroll back and find some of these questions if you all want to throw them up on the chat.
42:30We didn't mention him, but Ted Aroa McMillan? Are we worried about Ted Aroa McMillan being second fiddle to Jalen Coker?
42:37I kind of – I had Jalen Coker high in my week one rankings, Tara, because the slot coverage in Chicago was bad last year.
42:45I had Parker Washington high because the slot coverage in Cleveland was bad last year.
42:50And I was particularly high on those guys coming in, or at least as high as the community was.
42:56And they had huge games. So, kind of what I expected.
43:00But Ted Aroa, you know, kind of held out and did fumble.
43:04Are we worried about Ted Aroa at all, or is this just a week one eye roller?
43:09No. Again, this was just – it's him. And it's, you know, it's funny.
43:14Darren Waller had a touchdown call back. I was disappointed because I was like, well, I just want the lure of the
43:21Darren Waller touchdowns to just live on forever. Very unusable production, but touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, injury.
43:26No, I think that, again, this – from a pure pass catcher perspective, the volume is very funneled to those two guys.
43:34Now, Jalen Coker popping up. I'm a big Jalen Coker.
43:37I, you know, qualify as one of the Cokehead fans.
43:40So, I'm not surprised. It's a little more even than what people were willing to admit.
43:45So, it's not a panic on Ted Aroa McMillan because he's still got plenty of upside.
43:51But you need to consider Jalen Coker being pushed up and getting a little bit closer.
43:56Here's our guy Debro in the chat. Jalen Coker.
43:59He's all over here. There we go. Of course, of course.
44:03Now, a couple people asking about Devontae Smith. Devontae Smith, not the greatest day in the world here.
44:08What was it? It was six targets, three catches, 53 yards.
44:12You know, not the worst day ever, but not what we expected.
44:16We expected, okay, A.J. Brown's out. This guy is going to get littered with targets.
44:21Didn't happen in week one. Are we worried about Devontae Smith at all?
44:25No, it's a continuation of what we saw last season.
44:28I don't think that we should have expected the A.J.
44:32Brown exit to mean that suddenly there's going to be weekly top five upside for Devontae Smith.
44:37This is the Eagles offense. They're going to try to lean back on Saquon Barkley.
44:42I'm not surprised we got, you know, some pop there from Dontabian Wicks.
44:46We knew that Dallas Goddard was going to be a president.
44:50So there are still bodies and Jalen Hurts is still going to do Jalen Hurts things, lean on the ground game, lean
44:57on his legs, spread the ball around. So, yeah, I'm not surprised, but I wouldn't panic over this.
45:03Craig B. asked, is Judkins a bench right now?
45:06He mildly pulled it out in terms of somewhat redeeming-ish himself.
45:10Yeah, he is a push down into flex territory.
45:13And if you've got something else, if you have another workable body that's in an offense that will not be trailing, yes.
45:20Yes. MJ asked, is this game from Shuck an outlier or do you think we can expect this type of production going forward?
45:28And are we worried about HN usage? I am worried about Travis HN.
45:32Yes, 100%. That made no logical sense. The uptick in checkdowns was kind of crazy.
45:37So it did get at least salvaged from that perspective.
45:40But the split on the ground was highly, highly concerning.
45:43I don't think this is an outlier. Well, this was the volume.
45:47Now, again, we got to remember they were chasing points.
45:50They catch up. They, you know, got there. And the Detroit secondary can be a bit vulnerable as well.
45:57So I don't think every week will like this.
46:00But garbage time, second half, comebacks. I would not be shocked if we continue to see things be shaky, pick up, eventually
46:07get there from a pure volume perspective. Just based off the fact that he is throwing to some, you know, we saw Devon Vele step up.
46:15We know Chris Olave is amazing. Jawan Johnson came through.
46:19So it's, you know, despite losing Jordan Tyson, they're still a solid group.
46:23The rookies show decently well as well. So, yeah.
46:26And it's a Kellen Moore offense that pushes aggressive volume continuously.
46:30And that's the key there. Kellen Moore is going to ensure that we are consistently seeing 30 plus targets from Tyler Shucks.
46:37So you don't have to worry on that. Let's see.
46:40We got one here. Waiver wire rank between Debo, Vele, Boston, and Caleb Douglas.
46:45Good question here. It is Debo for me because of, you know, stripling injury.
46:49I think, again, it'll be those three and Kittle, Mike Evans, and Debo that are going to be the three solid.
46:56So I would prioritize Debo if he's there. Then Vele, Douglas, and then Boston.
47:01I could flip Douglas and Boston, but I do still need to see that quarterback change, honestly.
47:06Yeah. I mean, Douglas was pepper with target. He was.
47:10I do like that part. Thoughts on Gainwell. Well, I don't know that I have Gainwell anywhere.
47:15Did I see what he did? It was a little mediocre, to be honest.
47:20Let me see. Impressive. I mean, they were losing the whole time, right?
47:24Yeah. Gainwell, five for 15, one target, one catch, three yards.
47:28So not a lot of usage there for Kenny Gainwell.
47:31Yeah. It was a nice day for Bucky Irving, but it was never Gainwell.
47:36That was the worry of Sean Tucker at the goal line.
47:39So him being out, definitely eliminated from that, from being a concern.
47:43But because between Bucky and Gainwell, you know, it was going to be Bucky at the goal line more than likely.
47:50So I'm not surprised on that end, but it kind of solidified that Gainwell is not going to get enough production to
47:57maybe he has enough to creep in on Bucky and make Bucky a little irritating, but not enough to be standalone value.
48:04Maybe. See, Nelson says, it was crazy, but I will still ask, could Khalif Raymond be a thorn in the side of the Bears' top weapons?
48:13He had eight for 84 on nine targets. Cale would seem to be looking for him a lot, especially near the line.
48:20What are your thoughts on Khalif Raymond, maybe as a useful player for the Bears moving forward here?
48:26I wouldn't dismiss it for the fact that we did have to overcome Olamide Zaccheaus last year.
48:32So I mean, this is not a, this is not a random anomaly.
48:36So it's entirely possible that this is one of those things.
48:40Am I rushing to the waiver wire to grab Khalif Raymond and Raymond in our, you know, your typical league?
48:46Probably not, but he could be a thorn in the, thorn in the side is the perfect warning, a perfect phrasing of it.
48:54Thorn in the side of those top weapons. And, and Metal James asked, Coker overburden?
48:59Think about it. Yeah. I think that's for me.
49:02Hey, um, I think you're just auto on Coker overburden, right?
49:05Oh yeah. Love it. 100%. I'm going to say matchup based right now, but, um, Coker looked great this week.
49:12There's no doubt about it. Uh, chase killing me on the week.
49:16Uh, thoughts on the Bengals defense from Messer Grimm.
49:19It looked good. Dexter Lawrence changes the entire outlook of your defense, but not just that night tackled.
49:24Well, Barrett Carter played well. I thought the secondary was pretty good for most of the time.
49:30And I mean, they thumped Baker Mayfield a ton, right?
49:33Mm-hmm. And I was surprised because they were, you know, dealing with injuries.
49:38So I thought they might be, um, you know, cause I thought we'd see a positive progression, but then the injuries came
49:45and like, ah, maybe we'll see a little bit shakier this week.
49:49But no, it looks like maybe, maybe they finally made the right moves to actually, they had Baker in fits.
49:55Yeah. Um, and then the last one we'll do because Sunday night football is about to start from Ben going forward in a non PPR TD heavy league.
50:05Would you rather start to Juan Johnson over pits going forward until things change?
50:09Yes, I would. Um, yeah. I mean, the first half of the saints looked so pathetic, right?
50:15Like they just look so bad. Uh, but that second half, they were really, really good.
50:20So, uh, yeah, Juan Johnson, now that Chuck has his confidence and is there and had them in that game.
50:27And I mean, they really had a chance to win it at the end, but, uh, yeah, I, I think I agree
50:34with you until we know what the quarterback situation is in Atlanta, you know, at least get back to Tua, like Tua is tied in friendly.
50:42So at the very least, if we can get back to Tua, then I can say, okay, but it did Cooper rush
50:50was super check down and maybe, maybe a week of practice can get him on track.
50:55Cause what you were saying, limited usage. So maybe all he could do was check down.
51:00Could have been, could have been, but that is going to wrap it up for us.
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