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0:03Hello, everybody. Welcome into the tailgate. I am Ryan Warmly joined today by Derek Brown and Andrew Erickson.
0:08Guys, we have football to discuss. Week 1 is almost in the books.
0:12One more game tonight. We are recording here Monday morning.
0:14Broncos and Chiefs still on the slate. Everybody else has already gotten a game under their belts.
0:19We have week 1 to react to. Erickson, how are you feeling here the morning after the first Sunday slate?
0:25I'm feeling excited, exhilarated, ready to just continue to dive into everything that happened in week 1.
0:30There's so much data, film to digest and to then turn it around for Tuesday, for Wednesday, for waiver wire, for start sit.
0:36And before you know it, it's going to be Thursday night.
0:40It's going to be the Bills and Lions kicking off another great start to another great week of football coming up.
0:45So there's really no better time to be a live worm.
0:49It is such a rhythm of the season that you get into, but really quickly, as soon as the season kicks off
0:55of, you know, Monday's our reactions and Tuesday's our waivers and Wednesday's our traits like it really does flow.
1:00I always feel like fall is the fastest moving season because of the rhythm and regiment nature of the NFL season.
1:06Debra, how are you feeling here on the first Monday of the season?
1:10I'm doing good, baby. A lot of flagplank guys popped off at a really good betting week.
1:15I got nothing to gripe about on this Monday morning.
1:18Dude, I was going to say, you had a great week if you look at all of your rankings.
1:23We ran pretty pure, baby! Woo! Every single player that you were hyping up this summer, this was the week of Debro for sure.
1:30So I know you're feeling very good. Zay Flowers is in the touchdown lead too.
1:34Not to bury the lead here too far, but you know, just saying.
1:38If I wasn't in a public establishment, the pants would have been off.
1:41Zay Flowers after that touchdown yesterday or Sunday? My counter to that is even if you were in a public establishment.
1:47I was at my niece's birthday party. Okay, fine.
1:50Okay, well, that's not a public establishment. I can't let her see Uncle Erickson in that type of setting.
1:55I thought you were like standing in the middle of a Wendy's.
1:59Are you Uncle Erickson or Uncle Andrew? Because wouldn't everybody there also be Erickson's?
2:03Well, no. It's on the other side. So the other side.
2:06Okay. You can be Uncle Exilbert. My wife has yet to change her name.
2:10Or would you be Uncle Anderson? For those that are initiated.
2:13Only on a good day. Yeah. All right. Well, speaking of Zay Flowers, let's get into the news and notes here.
2:19That's how we're going to start off the show each and every Monday.
2:23And his hamstring injury, one of the biggest news of the week.
2:26There actually wasn't a ton of injury stuff. There was more last week.
2:30You know, in those first couple of games. You know, to start off the season last week.
2:35And then also like, you know, like the Bowers news, things like that.
2:38As far as the actual Sunday slate goes, relatively unscathed.
2:41Zay Flowers leaving the game after a dominant first half is really the big news there.
2:46He had 150 yards and a touchdown. And just looked like the best player on the field.
2:51Like just eye test watching that game. Didn't even finish two quarters and still is wide receiver five in scoring on the week.
2:57He left the game with a hamstring injury. There is an update this morning from Ian Rappaport.
3:02I'll just read it verbatim here. Ravens wide receiver Zay Flowers, who left Sunday's win over the Colts early, suffered a hamstring injury that is not considered serious.
3:10Sources say he'll have an MRI, but if it was a playoff game, he likely would have returned.
3:15Flowers is considered day to day heading into testing.
3:18This is pretty good news. The offense looked very different with him on the field.
3:22They scored touchdowns in four of their first five drives.
3:25And if not for a holding penalty, it would have been five out of five.
3:29They looked unstoppable with him on the field. It looked very different with him off the field.
3:34They still were scoring. They still won the game handedly, but it wasn't as easy explosive as it was with Zay Flowers.
3:40So again, really did like I thought he looked better at receiver than the Marley looked at quarterback.
3:45I thought they looked like the best player on the field that day.
3:49So, Erickson, you have been all you guys both have been all over Zay Flowers this summer.
3:54But I know I've talked to you a lot, Erickson, about it.
3:57What was your reaction just to seeing him have this big game, but then also the injury stuff?
4:02Just the microcosm of what it's like to be a fantasy football manager and analyst and ranker that you get really high on these certain players.
4:10And when they hit in a big way, you feel so justified by all the research and work you put into.
4:16But then also realizing that it can get taken away at any moment.
4:19This game can be absolutely brutal. Last year for me, that was Tucker Craft, right?
4:23It just was a mega hit. But then eventually he got hurt.
4:27So he didn't actually end up finishing the season.
4:29So I'm really happy that the news is generally good for Zay Flowers.
4:33I guess from my perspective and understanding reading the tea leaves between the reporting, it's that he didn't suffer a hamstring strain
4:39and it's more he has hamstring tightness, which is why they're keeping him out so that it doesn't get worse.
4:45I would feel much better if he just doesn't play next week, even if he's good to go.
4:50Like because we've seen this with soft tissue injuries before the fact that he was also dealing with it beforehand, the fact
4:56that he was playing through this and still was balling out into your point where I'm looking at the best player on the field, despite having hamstring tightness.
5:04Just don't risk it. He's your best wide receiver on the team.
5:08Like you can get reproductive with Lamar with Derrick Henry.
5:11The Ravens are playing who again next week in week two?
5:14We're going to talk about the Saints. So and they're eight and a half point favorites.
5:18You need that five favorites. I mean, look, if they got to lose a game at home just to make sure Zay
5:25Flower is healthy throughout the rest of the season, like I would be.
5:28And then week three is against the Cowboys in Rio.
5:31So that's a game. I know the Cowboys lost in week one, but that's a game they're circling more.
5:37Like if you look at their first seven weeks, the Cowboys is the only game going into the season.
5:42You don't know how it's going to play out, but going into the season, the Cowboys was the first of those first
5:48six games that was like, oh, that's going to be the tough one.
5:52Everything else is like a pretty easy start to the schedule.
5:55So to me, that's the one you're circling. Especially because it's it's NFC, right?
5:59This matters so little in terms of the overall standing when you're trying again, it's different.
6:04This is an AFC North like the Cincinnati Bengals are coming to town.
6:07Like that would be probably a different type of mindset.
6:10But I think the Ravens would just be very smart to be conservative.
6:14We saw last year what happened with Lamar, right?
6:16When he came back, he wasn't himself. It was a disaster.
6:19So please Baltimore do the right thing and let Zay get healthy, even more healthy, 120%.
6:24And please, please, please, please. Their next five games, like I'm not saying he's going to miss five games, but like if
6:30they want it to be extra conservative, their next five games are the Saints, the Cowboys, the Titans, the Falcons, and the Browns, right?
6:37This is not a stretch. You should need Zay Flowers on your team to easily win.
6:42That Dallas game is the only one that's, you know, a little bit more notable there.
6:46So, yeah, I hope they are as conservative as possible.
6:49Jacoby Lane that, you know, the summer standout, D bro, fractures his wrist in this game.
6:54Really kind of a bummer because he catches his touchdown, has a fun celebration.
6:58First catch in the NFL gets called back on a holding penalty by Javon Gwynn.
7:02And then he gets hurt on two plays later and doesn't return.
7:05So he is going to miss several weeks, D bro.
7:08He is. And we'll see, you know, when he comes back.
7:11I mean, not, not all wrist fractures are the same.
7:14So it depends on, you know, how bad it is, how much, you know, does he need surgery?
7:19Are they going to splint it? What happens with that?
7:22Just back to the Zay Flowers conversation real quick.
7:25I just want anybody to understand in the first half of that game, this man had a 33.3% target share and a 46% first reach here.
7:32He was the passing offense. So, you know, Zay Flowers, like if he misses next week, as well as now with being
7:38without Jacoby Lane, we could see a Baltimore passing attack that obviously runs through Mark Andrews, but obviously maybe Rashad Bateman gets a big bump.
7:45Bateman had zero catches in this game, despite both those receivers going down.
7:49Well, no, he did have one catch, but what got wiped away out of penalty.
7:53Yeah. Yeah. So probably a big heavy dose of Derrick Henry.
7:56We're going to see in week two. Probably a lot of Derrick Henry.
8:00Maybe, maybe Lamar. I mean, the Saints Lions game, the Lions had no problems running the football over the New Orleans Saints.
8:06No. Yeah. We're going to talk a little bit more about the Ravens later.
8:10So let's move on here. Kyler Murray concussion, very scary hit early on in that game for Minnesota.
8:15Obviously concussions typically in the sort of modern era of the way they treat it are at least a week missed.
8:21I have not seen an update this morning. If there's any sort of news on that specifically D bro, but generally speaking,
8:28I think it's fair to probably assume he will not be playing in week two at the very least.
8:33What was your reaction? Like, obviously you don't want to see people get hurt and we're hoping for the best for Kyler,
8:39but also just like to seeing Carson Wentz running this offense.
8:42And, you know, Justin Jefferson did have a big bounce back game one compared to last season.
8:47Like what were your thoughts on the offense overall without Kyler in there and what you expect from them for as long as he's out?
8:54I still think this offense can be fine against way.
8:57Like I know everybody's going to look at the Justin Jefferson, two touchdowns and feel really good about it.
9:03I understand that. And then when it's leading them to the victory also, but if you look at it from a per
9:09drop back basis, 21.1% of Carson wins his throws were off target.
9:12So it's not like Carson Wentz played it like, like he was extremely accurate quarterback.
9:16Can he run the offense? Sure. Because he's not five foot eight.
9:20So I think it's still, you know, it remains to be seen that when Kyler comes back, can he run this offense or what that looks like?
9:28So I don't want to make too many sweeping judgments based off of week one where Kyler goes out immediately, whatever we
9:34were going to see out of the Vikings probably immediately you turned based off of like installs, full game plan, bet, like all of this around Kyler Murray.
9:42And then immediately he's lost in the game. So you're having to pivot on the fly, what they're going to do and
9:48stuff, you know, scripted plays and, and just kind of throw everything in the tank.
9:52But I mean, it was good to see the Vikings, you know, get out with a win.
9:57I think that, that, that win was more of a statement by the Packers of what are we doing here?
10:03I like they, are we at the point of having a conversation about the floor has a problem closing out games?
10:09If he can't just play slow and lean on Josh Jacobs.
10:12I think we're well into that conversation. Honestly, I agree with you wholeheartedly.
10:16That's the, he's always been a great play designer, but people have more problems with his play calling than his play design.
10:22And the stuff that goes into being a head coach besides designing an offense, you talk to Packers fans.
10:27They're really unhappy with him in that regard. So I, yeah, I'm, I'm with you there.
10:32By the way, the next two games for the Vikings at Chicago, at Tampa Bay, Erickson.
10:36I mean, it's not like we expect Kyler to miss the season or anything like that, but if he misses like significant
10:43time, like depending on the severity of this concussion, you know, the Vikings were kind of one of the fun, they were
10:49the fourth team in the division for a lot of people, but one of those like fourth place teams going into the
10:55season, like, hey, you could totally still see them winning and kind of a fun, you got to pick somebody that's going to be surprised.
11:02I saw a lot of, you know, podcasts out there picking the Vikings as sort of a surprise division winner.
11:08Do you think that's on the table with Carson Wentz or is this just like, you got to get Kyler back as soon as possible?
11:15No, I think that the Wentz wagon will run dry as the weeks continue and progress.
11:20Like there's a reason why they stuck with JJ McCarthy, kept them on the roster.
11:24There's reason why they went out and got Kyler Murray.
11:27Carson Wentz has been on this roster the entire time.
11:29He was never the number one option. He was okay.
11:32Well, he knows the offense and we can use him in a case of emergency like they did in week one.
11:38Now the Vikings had all the breaks go for them in this game.
11:42When it comes to the penalties, you know, Carson Wentz got picked off and it came back on a holding penalty and then they scored.
11:49And then Jordan love has a sack fumble and they get the ball at the one yard line.
11:54Jordan Mason punches in for a touchdown. Like they were getting beat handily.
11:58And then they ended up blowing out the Packers in the fourth quarter of the game because everything kind of worked in
12:04their favor again, in terms of just the yardage, like they were, they were outplayed not matched.
12:09So I know that as the Minnesota Vikings money line ticket holder, I was not upset about the outcome of this particular game.
12:16I was disappointed though, because Alfredo and Debra, we all talked about on the tailgate prediction show about this game.
12:21They liked the Packers. I liked the Vikings, but a lot of the analysis was about Kyler Murray.
12:26So we didn't even get to see that even like play out in terms of how this game was actually going to end up finishing.
12:33Like, so I would say just on the surface level, I just think that having Wentz is great for Justin Jefferson because
12:40we've already seen this proof of concept work before.
12:42Jefferson was putting up 90 receiving yards per game last year with Carson Wentz.
12:46He already has as many touchdowns as he has last year too.
12:50And he's going to get his third touchdown because he's facing the bears in week two.
12:54So Jefferson's already going to exceed his touchdown total in the second game of the season.
12:59Get ready. Line up those Justin Jefferson, Jay Jettas, anytime touchdown bets in week two.
13:03Packers to get right spots after this week one, they get the Jets and the Falcons.
13:08So I expect them to be two and one after the, after week three.
13:12I would agree. Yeah, I agree with that as well.
13:14Quick note. Miles Garrett goes on IR, obviously like the Ram super team.
13:18He was a big part of that. Um, you know, I am operating Debra.
13:22I talked about this with Erickson when we taped the betting pros, uh, week two lines show last night.
13:27I'm just operating as if the Australia game didn't happen.
13:30I, I, there's so much like weirdness with the travel and everything that, um, I, I'm trying to evaluate the Rams, not
13:37taking that game into consideration, but miles Garrett, not being there is a huge factor, right?
13:41That's that is a difference maker in terms of our opinion of this team.
13:45So, um, what are your thoughts on the Rams just as a team in general?
13:49And, you know, maybe we're not calling them the prohibited favorite to win the Super Bowl anymore.
13:54I mean, what are you doing with this information?
13:57I guess is the question. I was very worried about all the off season hype, but the Rams throughout the entire of
14:03the off season, like as top heavy as this roster is again, I don't want to make too many sweeping judgment calls
14:09and stuff based off of one freaking game, especially in division game that those games have always kind of played out weird.
14:15Shanahan's kind of seemed to have McVay's number and stuff.
14:18The thing I will say about miles Garrett, uh, two, two big points here.
14:22One, the Cleveland Browns absolutely unequivocally won that trade like that.
14:25That is a masterclass trade. Like, you know, if you held on to miles Garrett and had any kind of like it,
14:32if Browns fans if they were like, Oh, we should have hold on to miles Garrett.
14:36Maybe we could have got more in season. Oh, this is telling you that that move was very, very good.
14:42Uh, as well as man, what has happened to the news reporting?
14:45Like, can we also talk about just real quickly?
14:48Miles Garrett, like in the broadcast in that game, they're like, Oh yeah, well, you know, I was scared.
14:53It's dealing with a little bit of a knee injury.
14:56Like he's not really in game shape. He's coming in and out.
15:00He's very winded and stuff. Excuse me. Did I just take a nap all off season and wake up in the midst
15:06of a broadcast and week one and all this stuff is just talked about as like common knowledge where it's like, I
15:12excuse me about miles Garrett having a knee issue coming into this at less than a hundred percent being a part-time player, not being himself.
15:19That's all news to me. I'm learning this in real time.
15:22I mean, am I crazy guys? Like they, the Rams kept that undercover.
15:26He wasn't practicing when we first got to LA, right?
15:29Wasn't that the case? Yes, but it was kind of like shrouded in like, you know, we're just going to slow ramp him up and stuff.
15:36None of this knee issue stuff was out there like common knowledge.
15:40And now he's having an injury or he's having surgery.
15:42And again, the media slanting this is it's a minor procedure.
15:46Although we still have no clue what the actual injury is for miles Garrett.
15:50Is it a meniscus? Is it a PC? Like we have no, we don't know.
15:54I mean, maybe it's not just the reporting. I mean, sometimes these teams seem to have a disconnect with the medical.
16:00I mean, Kent Kubiak thought Brock Bowers was going to play.
16:03Oh, that's all media slant. That's all BS. I think there's a disconnect, not just between people like us who are absorbing
16:09the game, but between the coaching staffs and how healthy is this guy actually?
16:13So, I mean, again, I'm not, I'm not, I think that's, I think that's the media carrying the water for the head
16:19coaches on the teams to personally, I'm just saying as well, to make another point, the game in Australia seems a lot less popular.
16:26If you don't have your prize first or trade acquisition playing in that particular game.
16:30Just saying. So, I mean, it's hard. It's hard.
16:33It's not as fun to sell it when miles Garrett is on IR and not playing.
16:38Oh, there's no Aaron Donald or miles Garrett. That's lame.
16:40I'm going to watch something else on Netflix tonight.
16:43Yeah. It's also not great when the, the MVP of last season doesn't look like he's over the hill, but it looks
16:49like he's just staring at the hill again, but that's, he's old.
16:53The travel stuff. Like I need to see a touchdown regression because of course he throws for the most touchdowns last year
16:59and then doesn't throw a touchdown in week. No, no, but to your point, he did look bad.
17:04It wasn't just like, like statistical touchdown regression. Like he looked bad, but again, he's an older player who just was on
17:10a plane, you know, for 17 hours. Like I want to see more weeks before I'm ready to say Stafford's cooked.
17:16By the way, one more note here. Just like a very awesome week one highest scoring week one since the 1970 merger.
17:22That's prior to Sunday night football. I didn't check to see if those numbers changed after Sunday night football, but it was
17:29the highest scoring week one in NFL history since the 1970 merger.
17:32We talked, you know, on the betting show Erickson about unders were the, are the play in week one.
17:38That was not the case yesterday. Do you think this is sort of a sign of things to come for the season?
17:44Like offenses back. There's been a lot of talk in recent years about how defense has been ahead of offenses, or is
17:50this just like a kind of a fluky week one?
17:53And we'll see what happens. I think that week one is probably probably more fluky than anything else.
17:58You're going to see the books adjust and the lines are going to be much higher in week two than they were in week one.
18:05I would say that to make another point, the primetime games went under.
18:09Yes. Those games did not go over the total.
18:11And those ones are the ones that are the most often bet up games because they're primetime and you're watching with your family.
18:18You're not watching anything else. You're all locked in and you're like, I want points.
18:22I want to watch stuff happen in this game.
18:25So don't be like me and lame and bet all the unders on these primetime games.
18:29But if I'd make a bet right now, what's going to happen in Broncos chiefs, just based on how things tend to balance out that game's going under.
18:37There's a primetime game. That's all we've seen is the primetime games go under the project.
18:42Toals were the one o'clock, four o'clock. We're seeing tons of shootout.
18:45Also to your point though, Erickson, it like, I don't want to also get lost too much into the week one of
18:51like high total games all going off. Like the, okay, the bucks and Bengals, that was a high total game.
18:57The saints and lions. That was a high total game.
19:00The rave in the Colts. That was a high total game.
19:03It's also like we did get a stinker out of the Falcons and Steelers, the bears and Panthers.
19:08Yeah. But the bears and Panthers was a high total game.
19:11The Jaguars were massively favorited. Like I like when, when you have two games, when you have a game at course field
19:18for field, that's going over and then bank of America stadium where the Panthers play low key cores light field of the NFL.
19:24Like those games also go over a ton. So I do think it's kind of like the perfect, the planets kind of
19:30aligned for a lot of week one teams just kind of lined up to project for shootouts.
19:35Like let's not get too far away of Wednesday and Thursday being massive under games.
19:39You know what I mean? Like also. I think it's like fluky, maybe in terms of betting, like all the overs and everything like that.
19:47I do think there are a handful of teams that I'm just immediately bought in.
19:51And these are going to be awesome offenses all season.
19:54I think the Ravens, if they're, if those guys are healthy, I think the bears, obviously I think the bills doing what
20:00they did in Houston wildly impressing me. I think the Jags are going to be an awesome offense.
20:05I think there are like a half dozen or so offenses that I think might go like fire breathing dragon on NFL defenses all season long.
20:12That really excites me. It's not going to be every team.
20:16It's not gonna be every games and over. I think there are some really elite offenses this season that I'm really excited to watch.
20:22No, that's all fair. I don't disagree with that.
20:25Can I detour us really, really quickly? Just into a small like question that I had about week one.
20:30Does anybody understand or can make sense out of the, and I don't know if y'all have watched this cause again, I'm bringing this up on the fly.
20:38Can anybody actually talk to me like I'm a five year old and make sense out of the Jarek off play where
20:45that wasn't a scoop and talk like a touchdown where they come on the broadcast and they're like, oh, that was a forward pass.
20:51So it was meant to go forward. It didn't go forward.
20:55Weird. His arm didn't go forward. It goes backwards.
20:57And they're like, yes, but it was meant to be a forward pass.
21:01His arm was supposed to go forward. So it's a forward pass.
21:04Although it didn't actually travel a forward pass to me is supposed to move in a forward direction.
21:09I cannot make any sense out of that play.
21:12The description, the explanation, any of that. I felt like maybe I'm just a homer, but the Saints got wrong.
21:18I don't feel like I've ever heard that description for any call that I can remember.
21:22It felt like made up BS. I'm like, what?
21:25Like we're doing talking intent now. Like, sorry, I didn't intend to fumble the ball.
21:29Therefore, I don't have to give it away. So it doesn't count as a fumble because I meant to hold on to the ball.
21:36Right? Yeah. I threw an interception. I meant to throw to my guy.
21:39That was my intent. Like what? I'm totally with you.
21:42I was wildly confused by this. Erickson. Do you have any thoughts here?
21:46I mean, I was way too preoccupied of, of where Juwan Johnson was for 58 minutes of this game before he showed
21:52up with two minutes left in the fourth quarter.
21:55So that's where my mind was going when it came to the Lions and Saints game.
21:59Juwan Johnson was on the milk carton for like the entire game ends up salvaging not only his receiving yards prop, but he also gets the anytime touchdown.
22:07So, uh, yeah. Juwan Johnson came through. I could not make any sense out of the play.
22:12I just had to bring it up because I've been legit tilting ever since then.
22:16I mean, dude, you should be upset. You should be upset.
22:19It just felt like, like what in the name of made up BS?
22:23And then they get Pereira on the, on the freaking broadcast.
22:26And he's like, Oh yeah. I'm like, dude, you just, you just saying a bunch of nonsense.
22:31Like this doesn't make, I was like, okay, let's spin this however we want to.
22:35But none of this makes any freaking sense. Uh, one last thing, Erickson, give us a very quick update on our tailgate fantasy league, please.
22:43Oh yeah. We are looking at a one and O start for the, the tailgate here.
22:47So very excited about that. Um, we were lucky enough to draw Jamar chase.
22:51And I'm going to sign up two for 12.
22:54So Jamar chase continues his streak of terrible week ones.
22:56So that's just, if you drafted your chase, don't be upset.
23:00This is literally does every single season. He always sucks in week one.
23:03And then he always goes for 200 yards in week two.
23:06So when we buy him back on the Bengals offense going burr in week two, but overall the team didn't nobody like lit up the scoreboard.
23:14I did put Kenneth gain well in instead of Roma duns a because we bullied D bro into drafting Roma duns a, it's fine.
23:21Neither of them were good, but it was fine into the flex.
23:24We had the lines defense going. We had Jared Goff.
23:27So he did enough where yeah, Bukunakua. So not a standup performance by anybody specifically, but overall, uh, we've got enough points
23:33to get the W and I actually want to check if you got, I don't know.
23:38Can you guys pull up that screenshot that I sent you?
23:41Because I, I know I mentioned before my, uh, my slack is not, uh, working.
23:45It's your slack is slacking. Yeah. My slack. I've got the screenshot here.
23:49Dallas Goddard was our best player. Oh, yes. Yes.
23:51Yeah. After one week, it looks like maybe late tight end was the way to go in fantasy this year.
23:57We shall see. Well, it's training bride or yes.
24:00Speaking of milk cartons. We didn't talk about Colson Loveland, but he's still in a milk carton somewhere.
24:05We got, we got more show to get to, uh, Trey McBride was also in our opponent's lineup and we are tight end out.
24:11It's Gordon. So we, uh, we, we won that battle for sure.
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25:01a voice in what we're going to do here is sort of one thing that we each learned this week.
25:06One conclusion that we are drawing from the week's games.
25:09Erickson, I'll start with you. What did you learn in week one?
25:13Bears might have a record breaking offense. Potentially. That's the question that I want to pose now taking on Carolina.
25:18You have to take that into consideration. But the fact that they didn't stop trying to score points when they got to
25:2530, when they got to 40, when they got to 50, 59 points for them to beat the Carolina Panthers.
25:30Ben Johnson knows that his defense can't stop anybody.
25:33And he knows that most teams aren't going to be able to stop this run game.
25:37The fact that they scored 59 points and Colson limited zero catches.
25:41The fact that we talked about this on the betting pro show where I'm where I don't know how much money I
25:47would have bet on if you had told me that this wasn't even a possible scenario where, yeah, the bears are going
25:53to score 59 points and Colson 11 is going to score zero and just do absolutely nothing without an injury and be out there running routes.
26:01I did. He did get some targets. I know Williams missed him on one.
26:05And then he had one in the end zone that was called back on a penalty, I believe.
26:10So wasn't totally uninvolved, but the fact that the past game didn't pop off really at all with any of these receivers,
26:16except for Kalief Raymond, who apparently Ben Johnson bought stock and it didn't tell anybody.
26:20He just said that he bought stock and Luther burden.
26:23I think it's just absolutely crazy. When I saw this box score and I looked up and I was like 59 points.
26:29I just had to do like a double take because he did tell us that he wants to score a lot of points this year.
26:36And I guess I didn't take him seriously. Honestly, I think that, yeah, we got to take them seriously, especially with how bad the Bears defense is.
26:44And it's just like, these are the game scripts they have to go and play in.
26:49So I know we talked about it as the Bears are going to be this year's Bengals or this year's Dallas Cowboys.
26:55I think that just after week one, how is that not cemented that this is what this team is going to be?
27:01Well, and it's particularly crazy because like you said, so much was in the running game, which is not that surprising with
27:07Ben Johnson running things, but like 59 points. And yet Caleb Williams didn't top 300 passing yards, 59 points and no receiver had 100 receiving yards.
27:15Only one receiver had more than 63. Like you look at the box score.
27:19I'm like, how did this add up to 59?
27:21And it's well, they had two running backs get 100 plus each.
27:25And six of those touchdowns were on the ground.
27:27I mean, when you run for almost 300 freaking yards in a game, then you see why they didn't throw anything.
27:33And, you know, I kind of led this off or at least kind of teased this a second ago, but like, I'm
27:40not worried about Colston Loveland at all. I want to be very clear about that.
27:44He had an 84% route share yesterday. He led the entire freaking team and route share.
27:48I'm not worried about Loveland at all. I think this is just a blip on the screen.
27:53By the way, they scored two touchdowns in every quarter.
27:56So this was like just spread out throughout the entire game.
27:59And, and, and to the point of the Bears defense, they gave up almost 500 yards to Bryce Young.
28:05Yep. The Bryce Young. Bryce Young cooking them for three 61, 9.8 yards per attempt, three passing touchdowns.
28:10Ah, Carolina scored 37 points and got blown out.
28:12That's insane. Lord. That just doesn't happen. That that's, that's absolute.
28:15Ben Johnson wants to break records. He might actually do it.
28:18I think it's a good call. Eric. He's going to do it on both sides of the ball.
28:24Actually. But just very quickly, do you guys think maybe we were a little low on Deandre Swift this summer?
28:29Or like, he's not gonna score three touchdowns every game, but.
28:32Wow. It's like, he's not running there. They're not going to run the ball freaking 39 times.
28:37He's not getting one 20. That was the other thing.
28:40We want to zoom out. I've never seen a week or I would have to go pull this up and pro football reference.
28:47I cannot remember a single week in history where as many running backs went for over a hundred yards and hat tricked
28:53as much as we saw like Deandre Swift, Derrick Henry, David Montgomery got a hat trick.
28:57I think what did Ashton Jensie get a hat trick as well?
29:01Like how many running backs just went ham with three touchdowns?
29:04Yeah. Same. I felt like I, I felt like I did come around on Swift as the off season progressed.
29:10I know that I moved him up my rankings just because I was buying more into what this offense could be and
29:16like what these game scripts could be. And I looked at Swift as always finished as a fantasy RB to basically every single year of his career.
29:24And I looked at, well, maybe in this two 2026 bears offense, he can actually crack the top 12 for the first time in his career.
29:31He'd actually joined like Garrett blunt as the last running back to be at RB one for the first time in his
29:37seventh season and how to blunt get there. He scored like 20 touchdowns on the Patriots.
29:42And right now Swift has that role in this offense.
29:45Like they're using him a ton in the red zone.
29:47He left production on the table in this game.
29:50There was more stuff that he could have. Hey, he had a wildcat snap.
29:54He had an explosive run that came back on a penalty.
29:57So I mean, yeah, I mean, you just wanted many pieces of as bears as you can get.
30:02We didn't talk about this at all, but also shout out to Deandre Swift, the paid man getting that, that extension.
30:08Like he's, he's not going to be a free agent to be the bear said, no, we like you.
30:14We're going to keep you around. This is good stuff.
30:16Uh, D bro, let's go to your, what you learned this week.
30:20I had the Dalton Kincaid breakout season might be upon us boys.
30:23Uh, we finally saw Kincaid in a full-time role and surprise, surprise.
30:27He looks immaculate. I mean, dude, he had a 68% route share his highs last year.
30:31He only had five games above, above a 50% route share last, last year.
30:35He played 52% of the snaps high higher. He eclipsed that only once last year.
30:39He played 74% of the snaps in week one, 68% route share, 23% target share.
30:44I mean, I know that we're, we're going to give a caveat of if he stays healthy, but dude, if he stays
30:50healthy, Don't Kincaid might be posting some, I'm not going to go out there and say Trey McBride type of stats, but
30:56I'm not going to be surprised if he does.
30:59Erickson, where are you at on Kincaid looking rest of season?
31:02Do you feel like this was, oh, he's, you know, arriving in a different way and we were too low or are
31:08you more like, Hey, it's one week. Let's kind of see what's happening here.
31:12I think that he and likely were two prime candidates for the late round tight end strategy because where they were going
31:18and you saw the path is for opportunity for these types of players.
31:22Kincaid averaged over 25 yards per catch against the Houston Texans.
31:25It's just like absolutely bonkers. They went for 130 yards on five catches.
31:29That is absolutely insane. And next gen stats had that three of his targets were actually from out wide.
31:34And when he was aligned out wide, he went for 113 yards, which is the most for a tight end.
31:40That was aligned out wide in a single game since Kyle pits did it back in 2021.
31:45So he's showing more of a diverse skill set when he is healthy.
31:48So it's not just him out of the slot.
31:51Like, no, he's moving around a lot. And I think the biggest thing with Kincaid and what's actually helping this passing game
31:57and talking about, well, what was the difference between the bills of the past against this Houston Texans defense is something that
32:04I definitely didn't give enough credit was the addition of DJ more like making it a little bit easier for all the
32:10other pieces in this offense to coexist. I think more being a or the number one receiver in this offense made everything
32:16else easier for the passing game to click on all cylinders with Joe Brady calling the shots.
32:21And I was the head coach, not just the offensive coordinator.
32:24So all in all, like Bill's stock, we could have talked about just Bill's overall is a they're a massive winner after beating Houston.
32:31I thought that the postgame presser or in the locker room, how Josh Allen gave the game ball to Joe Brady and then he took his shirt off.
32:39And it was just like a grand old celebration because, yeah, that's why they moved.
32:43They made the move to Joe Brady because they couldn't get off the shine with Sean McDermott.
32:48They couldn't get over the hump with Sean McDermott.
32:50And at least after week one, you're thinking, man, this team can really beat anybody.
32:55Yeah, I was going to say, and I'm glad you brought him up, like the combo of a healthy Dalton Kincaid and
33:01the addition of DJ more feels like it really changes things like the two of them together.
33:06Not that Josh Allen needs help to be good, but maybe a nuclear season is incoming from him if those guys are healthy and producing all season.
33:13A lot of first time coaches getting wins like their first, like Jesse Minter, Clint Kubiak, Joe Brady.
33:19A lot of guys in their first games ever getting those that, you know, game ball postgame, you know, video clips go out.
33:25Super fun to see my what we learned this week.
33:28I'm just kind of keeping this on the negative side because you guys have done some positive ones.
33:33Non-Bijon Robinson Falcons are suitable until further notice. The quarterback situation is too bad.
33:37I don't care where you drafted Drake London. I don't care where you drafted Kyle Pitts amongst tight ends.
33:42Unless their name is Bijon Robinson, you can sit them until Michael Penix is playing quarterback.
33:47I think even when Tua's back, I'm going to be afraid to play these guys.
33:51Yeah, I don't know if Tua's ever coming back.
33:54I should say if he comes back. But yeah, no, I'm like, ignore the ADP.
33:58Ignore where you took these guys. Well, I invested a second round pick of Drake London.
34:03Sorry, that might have been a mistake. Again, if Penix comes back, I'll feel differently and maybe it'll look differently and it'll still save you.
34:10But until that happens, don't be, you know, beholden to where the draft capital you spent on these guys.
34:15They're both suitable. Bijon is the only non-sittable Falcon.
34:18Debra, what do you think? I am absolutely with you.
34:21I'm reacting in real time to something I just saw that Sean McVeigh came out and said he does not have a
34:27timeline for how many games Miles Garrett will miss after the minor knee procedure, by the way.
34:32But no, I'm totally with you. The Falcons offense looks like an absolute dumpster fire outside of Bijon Robinson.
34:37Like, you can't. Yeah. Oh, and by the way, for everybody that is not aware right now, Kyle Pitts apparently is back
34:43to being a part-time player for the Atlanta Falcons in the year 2026.
34:47Zero? Yep. He had one target? Yep. One target.
34:50One target. Kyle Pitts. Oh, man. Two for 29 for Drake London.
34:53I will say, though, and maybe we'll just tease from the trade show for fantasy pros.
34:57Look, Drake London, when Michael Penix is on our center, is really good.
35:01And right now, Drake London's stock is, like, bottom.
35:04I think that he might be an interesting buy-low player.
35:07Because eventually, Penix is going to come back. It doesn't need to be this week because you can stick on your bench.
35:13Like, yes. But until that happens, don't, again, I think you should feel more than comfortable sitting these guys until that happens.
35:19I've said it before, and I will say it again right now.
35:22Atlanta Falcons, they're cowards. Start Jack Strand. Yeah, I picked him up in two quarterback weeks.
35:27He's the best quarterback on that roster. He's the best quarterback on that roster.
35:31I do. They keep losing games. I don't care.
35:34They have an incentive to play someone just to see.
35:36Yeah. He's better than freaking Tua. He's better than Michael Penix, who can't run anything outside of pistol.
35:42Cooper Rush didn't complete a pass when he was under pressure.
35:45Cooper Rush is bad. Cooper Rush has got all.
35:47Cooper Rush was so bad as Lamar's back last year.
35:50And that it brought back Tyler Huntley. Oh, my God.
35:53That was so horrible. Oh, my God. I heard people out there, and I saw it on social media, like, but Cooper
35:59Rush is surrounded by all these good players. They're like, yeah, he was in Baltimore.
36:03That didn't go well. He was in Dallas. That didn't go well.
36:07He's not good. And that's where they gave B.
36:09John, what, 29 touches because he's so good with all these weapons?
36:13Dude. Yeah. B. John Robinson, I mean, look back at this, right?
36:16Dude, he had almost a 50% target share. Does everybody realize Cooper Rush dropped back and threw 22 passes?
36:22Ten of those went to B. John Robinson. B.
36:24John touched the ball on 66% of his snaps.
36:27Dude, he almost went 100-100 in this first game.
36:29So, yes, I will. The only thing I will say is thank you, Cooper Rush, for keeping the B.
36:35John Robinson 1K, 1K season alive. The hopes are still there, baby.
36:38People were starting to sweat the B. John versus Jamar Chase at two.
36:42That was becoming a question because everyone was afraid of the Falcons.
36:45And at least those people that took B. John number two instead of Chase, at least after week one, I feel okay.
36:51I feel right about the decision. Falcons fans, I'm sorry.
36:54I will say for Falcons players, next two opponents, Carolina, Green Bay.
36:58So maybe some opportunity against those defenses. Jack Strand.
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39:34All right, guys. Reality check. Another conclusion here from each of us, but we're going to kind of talk out, is this
39:40a legitimate conclusion or an overreaction to what we just saw?
39:43We'll work through that conversation together. Erickson, what is your reality check for the week?
39:48Trevor Lawrence, real MVP candidate. Now, not the favorite because Josh Allen definitely should be the favorite after what he did get to Houston Texans.
39:55But in terms of who's going to be in the conversation all year long, I think that Trevor Lawrence, after a blowout
40:01victory of the Cleveland Browns, where all the shows we did last week on the tailgate.
40:06Again, I'm wrong about tons of things, but last week I was very high on the Jaguars.
40:10I said, take the Jaguars, laying the points. Take the Jaguars, laying two touchdowns.
40:14Trevor Lawrence is not going to score one, two, three, four touchdowns.
40:18And that's exactly what he did. And it didn't take all four quarters for him to get there.
40:23So I think that this Jags offense is the real deal when he has all of these weapons to work with.
40:29He's a surplus of weapons from the tight ends to the running backs to the wide receivers.
40:34They don't even need to use all these guys every single week, but there's just so much depth.
40:39And I think that and maybe we'll have to resurface Trevor Lawrence as a talking point next week because it's a much
40:45tougher matchup next week on the road at Denver.
40:48But we saw him do this before. He went to Denver last year.
40:51The Jaguars beat the Denver Broncos and Trevor Lawrence diced up that defense.
40:55So we'll see if the travel going to Denver.
40:58I know Worm, obviously you're from Denver. You know that the altitude has a effect on how these NFL athletes will play.
41:04But if that doesn't end up causing the Jaguars to fall on their face, I think this is an upset spot for
41:10them, especially with the Denver Broncos playing on a short week, playing tonight on Monday night football.
41:15Jaguars feeling good riding the high from even last year where they broke out in the second half of that season.
41:21So I think that Trevor Lawrence is the real deal.
41:24I think this is a legitimate conclusion. I'm curious what Debro thinks.
41:27It is funny that you mentioned Josh Allen. I think there were like four or five quarterbacks this week where I was
41:33like, wow, what a strong statement MVP case here in week one.
41:37And then it's like, oh, so did that guy.
41:39So did that guy. So did that guy. Like Allen was amazing.
41:43Lamar was. I texted my buddy. Obviously, I'm a Ravens fan.
41:46I texted my buddy who's a Ravens fan too during the game.
41:49I was like, I've seen enough. Like with Declan Doyle, Lamar Jackson, if he stays healthy, is winning the MVP.
41:55And then Josh Allen went out and did what he did.
41:58And then Trevor Lawrence had four touchdowns. Caleb Williams' team scores almost 60 points.
42:02There was just so many great performances in week one.
42:05Even going back to Thursday, Brock Purdy, I thought, looked awesome.
42:08And maybe this is the year he gets a little bit more credit.
42:12So yeah, it's tough to say like, oh, Trevor Lawrence is going to win MVP because there's so many other really good players there.
42:19Joe Burrow is also still third in odds on bettingpros.com.
42:21I don't really get it. He didn't like that.
42:24That didn't seem like he was the reason they won that game or anything.
42:28Not that he was bad. But at any rate, lots of good names there.
42:32But I thought Lawrence looked as good as any of them, Debro.
42:35Trevor, I'll just say this right now. With my reaction, I'll start this off right now, that I am betting Trevor Lawrence's
42:42MVP odds right now at the seventh longest. He has the longest odds of any of those names I just mentioned, right?
42:48That's part of this too. Yeah, dude. What is it now?
42:51Plus 1400 consensus on bettingpros.com. Yeah, you can find it other places.
42:54Yeah, but like consensus plus 1400. Allen's plus 450.
42:57Lamar plus 650. Burrow plus 900. Caleb plus 800.
42:59Mahomes and Purdy are both in that same range as well as with Trevor Lawrence.
43:04Yeah, so yes. Because here's the thing and the caveat to all this.
43:07He has these long odds right now. If he goes out and he does the damn thing against the Broncos, those odds are changing.
43:14Then people are going to say, oh, it's not just the Browns.
43:18He's going to go up. He'll be like top three in the odds if he goes and handles business versus Denver.
43:24So I think this is real too. And also shout out to everybody here.
43:28Parker Washington being a dude, being a number one wide receiver, being their elite number one wide receiver.
43:33Also, congrats to Parker Washington because the size of that contract prior to week one and the size of that contract now, it's going to go up, baby.
43:41So he could have had a monster game, but Jaguars were just like, we don't need to do anything with this.
43:47Like this is not a competitive football game. And to like, to quantify to what Trevor Lawrence did again, and we all
43:53saw four touchdowns, but this wasn't like he was dinking and dunking and the Browns were missing tackles.
43:58Like he was just an assassin down the field.
44:0110 of 11 passes for 179 yards, three touchdowns, all on throws of 10 plus air yards.
44:05I got to pull up as a dot. Ripping the Browns defense down the field and the Browns have good perimeter cornerbacks.
44:12Like they have guys, they have personnel. So I know the Browns defense isn't as good when they play on the road
44:18as they do at home, but they still have good personnel and it didn't matter because he was nearly flawless.
44:24And 11.3 a dot to your point, which just for everybody at home was third in week one behind only Malik Willis
44:30and Josh Allen amongst all qualifying quarterbacks. Same a dot as Lamar.
44:33It is just so funny. Cause I'm like, you're saying all these stats, like, yeah, he like, he's incredible.
44:39I'm sold. I'm like, but, but Allen was amazing too.
44:42And Lamar was amazing too. And yeah. Well, but that's why it's going to come down to a lot of these head
44:48to head matchups and like who wins in these games.
44:51Like if it is, where it's like pretty even between them all, like Lawrence will get, uh, you know, preference just because he hasn't won before.
44:58And you know, Josh and Lamar have combined for three like that.
45:01So the tiebreaker will go to the new blood typically.
45:04Well, and also if you're going to the betting markets, two of those guys are plus 450 and plus 650.
45:10Uh, one of these guys is plus 1500 on some books.
45:13So it's spot on. Yeah. Debra, what's your reality check?
45:16Like is cam board and unequivocal bust. And I, I know this is after just one week, but I'm lumping this together
45:22with a horrible, wretched and God awful preseason where cam word looked lost.
45:26Like when I'm watching the all 22 in preseason and we're seeing vanilla zone coverage, simple safety rotations were pre-snap.
45:32Cam Ward thinks he gets single high. He checks, he's going to hit the go route on the outside immediately post snap.
45:38He drops back. They drop into too high and he looks like he has lost, like just absolutely lost.
45:43He's jittery. He's patting the ball. Like he's trying to burp a baby.
45:47Like, and then he goes out versus the freaking jets guys.
45:5059.3% completion rate, 4.4 yards per attempt. He directed an offense that had 4.0 yards per play.
45:55Is he a bust? Cause I, I, I'm having a, I'm having a really tough time seeing the light and seeing some hope.
46:01You said in your, when you first posed this question, unequivocal bust, I can't use that word, but it doesn't look good.
46:08Like I, I can't put the nail in the coffin yet, but I, I certainly lean more bust than not bust at the moment.
46:14It Erickson, what do you think? Yeah. My only hesitation with the Titans, cause I was very high on them in terms of, okay.
46:21I like them as a dark horse to be one of these teams that goes from worst to first in the division.
46:28And the one thing that was always holding me back from being even more bullish on that type of long shot was the offensive line, the Tennessee Titans.
46:35And it's horrible. Cam Ward was constantly under duress against the New York jets, right?
46:40This isn't some like super dynamic Seattle Seahawks, Houston Texans defense.
46:43Yeah. They got some new personnel. Aaron Glenn is a defensive minded head coach.
46:47So yeah, they're going to throw some stuff at him.
46:50But when you're at home and you're pressured on almost 50% of your dropbacks against a brand new jets team.
46:55Like, and again, that's not also all on the offensive line when you're holding onto the ball and not making your reads then.
47:02And yeah, it just, it's very stark to me looking at Cam Ward and then watching Jackson dart, both year two quarterbacks
47:08dart in full command of his offense. That's also new for him too, with Matt Nagy and Greg Roman.
47:14And I was immediately just watching that Giants game and just thinking the entire time I chose the wrong dark horse long shot to win their division.
47:21And I should have picked the Giants and not the Tennessee Titans.
47:25Like that was my immediate reaction after Sunday or one of them was picking the wrong team.
47:29So I still think the Giants probably have some decent odds to win the NFC East.
47:34And I think it could potentially be a two man race between them and the Eagles if Dallas doesn't get their ish together.
47:41To your point, Erickson, Cam Ward pressured on 46.2% of his dropbacks.
47:44And Warren, before you weigh in here, if he doesn't look like a bus now, please tell me, do we feel better
47:50after he faces an upcoming schedule of the Eagles, Giants, Ravens?
47:53It's remarkable. Yeah, go ahead. You walk the schedule with us.
47:56Walk the schedule with us and tell me if we should feel any better about Mr.
48:01Ward. From here on, they place the Eagles at the Giants at Baltimore, the Texans at the Colts.
48:06They get the Browns. That might be a win.
48:09Okay. Is it at home or is it in Cleveland?
48:12It's home. It's in Tennessee. Okay. But then they're at Cincinnati.
48:15Then they have a bye. And then they go Jacksonville, Dallas at Jacksonville.
48:18This schedule through November, they're going to be one in 10 at best.
48:22They're going to need to win that Cleveland game to get a win this season.
48:26Even after that, it's Washington, Detroit, Indianapolis. So Mitch Trubisky, are you making starts this year?
48:31What are the Giants' odds to win the division?
48:33I want to move. I just want to cash out.
48:36I love that you have no hope for Cam Moore that you just left that in the rear view and you're just like, okay, what about the Giants?
48:44Well, what about the Giants? I've been to check on all the Titans stuff, put it into the Saints after they lose
48:50against the Ravens, put them on the Saints because that's another long shot that you've got to take.
48:56And yeah, the Giants did not give them enough credit.
48:58Consensus right now on bettingpros.com. I get longer than 3-1, honestly.
49:02I'm fine with that. It's plus 375 is the consensus.
49:04I think that's... Done. I like that. Okay, done.
49:07After the Cowboys looking like they did not actually fix their defense in the offseason.
49:11Real quick, just last point on Cam Ward. We're probably going to see Mitch Trubisky start games this year then, boys.
49:17Yeah, that is rough. It's a bad start. It's a bad upcoming schedule.
49:21Do you think he gets benched? I mean, I don't think Trubisky is going to be much better behind a bad offensive line.
49:27This coaching staff did not draft him. They are not tied to Cam Ward.
49:31Ryan Able did not draft him either. Sala didn't either.
49:34Bob Sala didn't either. If we are like, okay, he is clearly not...
49:38If you go through half this season and he is clearly not the answer for this franchise, then we go into tank mode and it's...
49:45True. All right, what quarterback are we looking at in the draft?
49:48Yeah, Mitch Trubisky is your tank quarterback. I mean, listen, Cam Ward might be your tank quarterback the way he has looked.
49:55Nah, dude, I don't know, man. Mitch Trubisky is pretty bad.
49:58I said might. I said might. You might. I mean, here's what we're all kind of describing, though.
50:03The difference in that quarterback play might not be that far, though.
50:06All right, let me do my reality check here.
50:09That's so sad. I'll do this kind of quickly.
50:11Declan Doyle, Ravens offensive coordinator, is going to become the youngest head coach in NFL history this January.
50:17I just was really impressed with his first game calling plays.
50:20We know he has the pedigree in terms of Sean Payton and Ben Johnson have both spoken very highly of working with him.
50:26He comes from this offensive system that people want their hands on now.
50:30We know that young offensive coordinators, like everybody wants to find the next Sean McVay or Ben Johnson.
50:35He, if he is hired in January, so the Ravens, you know, losing in the playoffs to make him available and he
50:41becomes a head coach, he will be younger than Sean McVay was when McVay became the youngest head coach in history.
50:47If the Ravens make the Super Bowl, then it's going to come down to like literally what day he gets hired in
50:54February if he like would break the record or not.
50:56But the point is, I think the Ravens are only getting one year with this guy.
51:01I was wildly impressed and I think that Lamar, assuming Lamar is healthy, is going to be good enough this year that
51:07even if, even if some of it is, smoke and mirrors isn't the right word, but like Doyle, Doyle will get sort
51:13of his reputation will rise because he's playing with Lamar and getting to coach Lamar.
51:18But I also think he's got the goods and I was just, their explosive play rate was like one of the best the Ravens have had in years.
51:26That's despite being a very good offense in recent years.
51:29Um, I, I just thought he looked, it looked really, really good.
51:32Um, and I was really impressed and I think he's going to be a head coach, uh, this time in like five months.
51:38Erickson, what do you think? Couldn't agree more. I think that this is a cosine for me.
51:43Nothing else to add. I want to clean sweep this and I want to follow this up real fast.
51:49Where is his destination? Cause I got two right off the top of my head right now.
51:54So I want to throw these out there and I'm going to give you guys some time to look at any other positive destinations.
52:00Maybe I'm overlooking looking stuff. The New York jets or the Washington commanders.
52:04Oh yeah. With Daniels. Yeah. The jets were in my mind.
52:07The commanders were not. That's a good call. You're Declan Doyle.
52:10You're, you're not going to New York, dude. You do not, you stay away from New York as long as you can.
52:17And you get Jane Daniels. I mean, he said that he took the Ravens job in large part because of Lamar.
52:23So really the correct answer is which team is getting a high draft pick and he's going to be able to pick
52:29his quarterback with like maybe that's the jets. If you like to get the number one pick and he loves Archie Manning, right?
52:35Maybe it's the Browns. If Todd Munkin is one and done.
52:38I mean, I mean like Miami and Arizona, it wouldn't surprise me.
52:42I mean, no Arizona one, but like wouldn't surprise me if those teams ended up going one and done with their coaches.
52:48Like, I don't think they will, but we have seen that happen more in recent years than we did before Tennessee.
52:54Same thing. If they get an early pick. So I think where those early picks go will matter.
52:59I want to, I want to throw another fun one out there.
53:03If this team disappoints this year, can you imagine him coaching the Cincinnati Bengals?
53:07Oh, I'm actually mad you brought that up because I really don't want that to happen.
53:11That would terrify me in the division. I don't honestly say I'm giving him like nightmares right now in real time.
53:17Yeah. If they didn't just give him an extension, I was going to say maybe Green Bay too, but like they did just extend the floor.
53:24Yeah. There is frustration. Yeah. No, I think that Washington calls is really good.
53:28Actually. I, I think that's, that's a fun one.
53:31Yeah. No, but for your reality check, I think this is a reality.
53:35And I hate it. I wish we could get multiple years with him, but he's, I think he's got the juice.
53:41Toil to the Bengals. Come on. Let's make it happen.
53:44Let's go. I just want to see it because I want to see Worm and Payne over it.
53:49Last segment we're going to do, we're going to change up this segment week to week.
53:53We're going to try and come up with something fun to wrap up the show on a week to week basis.
53:59This week, we're just doing an early stock watch here.
54:02We're each going to have a stock up and a stock down.
54:05We can move a little quicker through these because we have so many names to get through.
54:10And these can be players. They can be coaches.
54:13They can be narratives. They can be teams. You know, we largely went with players, but we got a team in there
54:19and a narrative in there as well. So we'll see what you guys think.
54:23Erickson, we'll start with you. What's your stock up?
54:26Christian Watson, wide receiver one season for the Green Bay Packers.
54:29Good thing about having Micah Parsons is they're letting Jordan Love cook a little bit.
54:33No Josh Jacobs. So they're throwing the ball a little bit more.
54:36Don't know how long this offensive line is going to hold up for Green Bay, but in the aggregate, in the meantime,
54:43it's going to be Christian Watson just dominating. Six catches, eight targets, 147 yards, two touchdowns, 81 yards score on Green Bay's
54:49first offensive touchdown of the day against the Minnesota Vikings.
54:52He caught four of his five targets for 131 yards and the two touchdowns on vertical routes against the Vikings.
54:57So Christian Watson was a player that I think that we all kind of like collectively at Fantasy Pros this year.
55:03He was a player that I thought was of those breakout wide receivers in that range of, it was like Watson and Parker Washington, right?
55:10Like those are the two guys. And then I was always torn when someone was like, who do I draft?
55:16I'm like, oh, like I like them both so much.
55:19Like you really can't make the right. Both. The answer is both.
55:22Just try to get both of them on your team.
55:25So it's interesting because Watson is the first Packers wide receiver with over 100 receiving yards and multiple receiving touchdowns in a single game since week 10, 2022.
55:332022, who do you think was the last receiver to do it for Green Bay?
55:37100 yards, two touchdowns. In 2022? Or are you saying it wasn't?
55:41That's the last time it happened was 2022. For the Packers.
55:44Or that's the last time it happened for any Packers.
55:47No, I know it's not. I know it's not going to be a name that I think you're baiting us.
55:53I think it's Al Mazzard. No, it's Christian Watson.
55:55Okay. There you go. See? I knew this was a trick question.
55:59It just goes to show how high this guy's ceiling is and how talented he is now that just fingers crossed that
56:05he is healthy and good to go. The fact that he didn't come off rehabbing a season-ending injury entering this season.
56:11I think this dude is off to the races.
56:13And the fact that he did all this damage and Matthew Golden was the one that actually led the team in targets.
56:20I was going to say, Goldenstock could have been up too.
56:23Yes. For sure. Packers passing game really is like the takeaway here because there's no Josh Jacobs.
56:28They were fine running a committee with Lloyd and Chris Brooks, which is gross that Brooks started the game.
56:33I was all in on Jordan Love this year as a late-round quarterback too for this exact reason.
56:38Going back to just do the quarterback depth, man.
56:41As good as Josh Allen was, there were so many quarterbacks who could get when the last pick.
56:46Like a Jordan Love. Just ugh. Absolutely. So many leagues.
56:49I took Love and Willis back-to-back in like rounds 10 and 11 and just like loaded up also before.
56:54And it just felt like the play. And Debro's point about when we talked about the Packers and their upcoming schedule, why
57:00is this passing game not going to continue to cook?
57:03Especially if the defense is struggling without Michael Parsons.
57:06By the way, there were four receivers in Fantasy Bros ADP in round six this year.
57:10Christian Watson, Parker Washington, Mike Evans, who looks very good, and Roma Doonesy, who didn't have the best game but is in
57:16this awesome offense that's going to score a lot of points.
57:20Like that was a good round to be drafting a receiver.
57:23Yeah. Yeah, Debro, we got so many questions last week about Watson versus Parker Washington for week one starts.
57:28And we said both. We said both. But you did say...
57:31We said both. And both was the right answer.
57:34You would go Watson and you were right about that.
57:37So... Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Watson, dude, he looks so good too.
57:40That catch and run where he just bursted up the sideline and guys are trying to like just falling off of him
57:46and he takes it to the house for 81 yards.
57:49And I'm just like, oh baby! Let's go! Let's go!
57:52Last year. Christian Watson. All pro vote. Last year.
57:54He will be a top-level receiver this year. He was awesome.
57:57I feel really strong about that. Just the health.
58:00He's Christian Watson looking like a dude, baby. Love it.
58:03Debro, you're stuck up. Ashton Gentry. Speaking of guys looking like dudes, Ashton Gentry looked like all of the rookie hype and
58:09the hope that we had for last year. That ankle looks pretty good, boys!
58:13Like, week one, 29 touches, 147 total yards, and the big, big takeaway for me was the pass game utility.
58:19Ashton Gentry gets 45 receiving yards, 2.25 yards per route run.
58:22Oh. It's just... He looks like the discount you got because of the ankle injury is going to really matter in fantasy leagues this year.
58:29I will say, I'm toying with the idea of instituting a rule on this show throughout the season that we're not allowed
58:35to award stock up to anybody who just played the Dolphins.
58:38The Dolphins are, like, maybe going to go 0-17, and so, like, that is in the back of my mind.
58:44Having said that, you're right. It's the usage. It's how he looks.
58:47The ankle. Like, I'm totally with you on Gentry, but I also am like, this was Miami.
58:52Just in the back of my mind. I mean, dude.
58:55No, I get it. I get it. That caveat is real.
58:58I understand it. I mean, the fact that he's healthy is the biggest thing, in my opinion, right?
59:03Like, just their ankle doesn't... Again, that doesn't matter who his defense is, right?
59:07If he's playing on a bum ankle, it's going to be very clear by his inability to force broken tackles, but that wasn't the case here.
59:15More to the pass game utility. This is my biggest takeaway.
59:1821.3% of his routes were from the slot or out wide, boys.
59:21D-Bro, they're not going to win enough games for this to actually happen, I don't think.
59:26But can I talk you into a little 40-1 action on Ashton Gentry, Offensive Player of the Year?
59:31I can't just because they're not going to win enough games.
59:34It has to be on a good team. Has to be on a good team.
59:38The player that wins that has to be on a good team.
59:42I think, too, his receiving was always going to get a boost without Bowers in a lineup.
59:46Well, if Bowers misses more time than expected... Yeah, but even when Bowers comes back...
59:51But you could make the idea that he's the best receiver in this game for the Raiders.
59:56Yeah. He won't be when Bowers is back. Fair.
59:58Yeah, that's true. No, that's fair. But still. Who else is threatening Bowers and Gentry in that passing attack?
60:04Oh, nobody. I'm not saying that this hurts Gentry, but what I'm saying from Offensive Player of the Year perspective, I would rather bet on Bowers.
60:11I got you. Honestly. Michael Mayer, outside of the ridiculous contract that the Raiders gave him, is not Brock Bowers, just in
60:17case the Raiders aren't aware of this. My stock up is Isaiah Likely.
60:21He looked awesome in his debut for the Giants.
60:23Obviously, John Harbaugh brought him over from Baltimore. We talked about late tight end is the play.
60:28Guys like Dallas Goddard we liked. Guys like Dalton Kincaid is an upside swing.
60:32Isaiah Likely, I think early, was a really popular late tight end guy.
60:36Kind of, I think, fell under the radar a bit later in draft season.
60:40At least I felt like there was, you know, people were hyping up Juwan Johnson instead.
60:44Or again, guys like Kincaid. Likely ended up as tight end 12, but going outside the top 100 picks by Fantasy Pros ADP.
60:51And he was terrific. And obviously Malik Neighbors is going to shake off more and more rust as we get further into the season.
60:58But likely Neighbors really complement each other in terms of their skill sets, I feel like.
61:02And for me, the reason that I point to him as a stock up isn't just the stat line, eight catches, 78 yards, and two touchdowns.
61:10I was really impressed with Jackson Dart. I had been pretty low on Dart the player throughout the summer.
61:15I thought he looked really good watching that game.
61:18And if Dart is very good, that's just going to create more opportunities for the best receivers on this team, which I
61:24think are clearly Neighbors and Likely over the course of the season.
61:27So I think Likely is going to get a ton of red zone usage in this offense.
61:32I think if Dart is good, he's going to get a ton of volume just amongst tight ends.
61:37And I'm not putting him in that Bowers, Loveland, I know, bad game McBride tier.
61:42But I think we might be two weeks away from saying, oh, he's comfortably like a top six or seven tight end rest of season.
61:49I was really impressed. We've always said he just needed the opportunity.
61:52Not in the same tight end room as Mark Andrews.
61:55He's now getting that opportunity. I think we're in for a really, really fun Isaiah Likely or Erickson.
62:00I'm so on board with this. He only played 49% of snaps and he had caught all of his ATAR.
62:06He was perfect. Like you were bearing the lead.
62:08He was perfect for the New York Giants in week one against the Dallas Cowboys.
62:13Two touchdowns doing everything that this passing attack needed.
62:15And they moved him all over the formation. So again, giving more credit to guys like Matt Nagy and Greg Roman, who
62:21I was really low on entering the soft season.
62:24They moved him all around. 11 in line. Five out wide.
62:27Two backfield for Isaiah Likely. And he was moving all over the place.
62:31And he was under 50% of the snaps. So there's still a chance where his role can grow in this offense where
62:37he can take on an even bigger part of the pie.
62:40Malik neighbors only pay 52% of the snaps. So going back to, yeah, the Giants.
62:44I think that we got to take them for real because of the quarterback.
62:48Because of what this offense could do and what we've seen from them so far in week one against the Dallas Cowboys.
62:55So, yeah. Isaiah Likely. I wrote a lot of my guys' articles this year.
62:59He was the perfect storm tight end type of approach.
63:01Likely was a player that I really liked a lot.
63:04I know I have him on a bunch of teams.
63:07So I was giddy seeing him targeted at a hyper rate.
63:10Jacksoner was always looking for him. And you just look at the other receivers on this team.
63:15Again, Malachi Fields popped a little bit. But Darnell Mooney, Odell Beckham Jr., those guys aren't going to command significant target shares in this offense.
63:22So I like Lee. Yeah, dude. I mean, like the better he looks and the worse that Mark Andrews looks, it's just
63:28it's like this weird parallel of why the Ravens decided to extend the wrong guy.
63:33And it was like so clearly. You're just twisting the knife on Warren right now.
63:37You're just twisting the knife. I don't get it.
63:40Like I literally do not understand why they're like, oh yeah, we got to sign Andrews.
63:44And it's like likely walk even though it's so clear who's better.
63:47In the moment, the reason I was okay with it, and I didn't like it in the moment.
63:53You might recall in the moment I was not happy.
63:55But the reason I was like allowing, like I was okay with it at least is I thought there was going to
64:02be a bigger gap in their contracts. I felt like, oh, well, likely as a young ascending player, he's going to make a lot more money.
64:09That's why they felt like, oh, well, we know maybe he's not as good.
64:13He's on the decline. But at least we can get a guy Lamar's really comfortable with, et cetera, et cetera.
64:19Likely getting basically the same contract as Andrews makes this just baffling to me.
64:23And it might be a season-defining decision if Flowers does end up banged up for longer than we expect in no Jacoby Lane.
64:29Like having a guy like Likely would really change things for Baltimore with all those receiver injuries.
64:34Having Andrews isn't moving the needle. At least it doesn't look.
64:37Andrews looked so, so washed in that game. But yeah, I'm crushed by this decision.
64:41But final point on Likely is despite the snap share being down, he had a 70% route share.
64:47And that's what matters. So like to Erickson's point, if the snaps come up just a tick more, maybe he's sniffing like an 80% route share.
64:54And I'll just take a – I've stretched previously, so I'll take a small victory lap here.
64:59I'm old enough to still remember when people said Jackson Dart was not a first-round quarterback.
65:03Andrew Cooper, friend of the show, had a tweet about an hour ago.
65:07Isaiah likely ran 91.6% of his routes from a receiver spot last night and had a first-read target share of 31.8%.
65:13He was used basically like prime Andrews or it's the examples that Cooper uses.
65:17Yeah. Yeah, it was almost 70% slot, 21% out wide.
65:20He was only in line for 8% of the snaps.
65:23He was a wide receiver. We all know this.
65:25And he was the guy that was puffing him up last year and then likely didn't get the contract from the Ravens
65:31because he got hurt at the beginning of last season.
65:34And that kind of derailed the contract. And obviously the Ravens moving on from Harbaugh.
65:39So just this connection, Harbaugh's the heist on his own.
65:41I'm ready to get dangerous. Like I think truly like possible league winner level season from Likely.
65:46Well, I remember when you were talking about on the Dynasty show, I'm pretty sure you were like Likely over Sadiq.
65:52Yes. Like just kind of looking like you could see a scenario where Likely is going to be going ahead of someone like.
65:59Fitz and Bogman pushed back on my aggressive Likely ranking.
66:02But I said in Dynasty, this was like a few months ago, but I thought there was a chance.
66:07Yeah, it was a while ago. I said I think there's a chance that he's at the top of the tier two
66:13of tight ends of Dynasty by the end of the season.
66:16That's best case scenario. It would take a great season to get there.
66:20I was not guaranteeing that, but I thought that was on the table.
66:24And obviously a great start for that. So far, so good.
66:27There was a lot of residual Theo Johnson truthers out there, you know, pushing back about like, I'm like, what is Theo
66:33Johnson showing you in his career to make you believe that much?
66:37Yeah, really excited. And again, he's also only 26.
66:39Like tight ends, their primes come later. So like I really like Likely.
66:43Let's go pretty quickly here on the stock downs because we are up against the clock.
66:47Erickson, who is your stock down? Uh, the Los Angeles Chargers and anybody that took them in the survivor picks.
66:53Wall. Yeah. When you lose against the Arizona Cardinals as 10 and a half point favorites at home, you can't not be a stock down.
67:00So obviously in the game itself, some things didn't work in their favor.
67:04Turnovers. That's how usually these upsets happen. But the fact that their offense didn't come out as firing as what we mostly
67:10expected, what the market was expecting was obviously disappointing.
67:13Losing Lab McConkie definitely hurt in the second half of the game because at the start of it, it like, oh man,
67:19like Ladd will look clearly ahead of everyone else on the depth chart for the wide receivers.
67:24He was cooking. I think Herbert and his first four passes had 72 yards passing, just like ripping the Arizona Cardinals defense to shreds.
67:31Then Ladd gets banged up, which unfortunately is part of his profile.
67:34Like the guy is constantly banged up as a more of an undersized wide receiver.
67:38And then the fourth quarter, the Chargers didn't really have a lot of answers for, I think, an underrated Arizona Cardinals defense.
67:44We talked about them, their defensive line, how they added a lot of depth this offseason.
67:49The fact that they're not as injured as they were last year.
67:52That was part of the reason why they were so bad last year was just they had so many injuries on the defensive side of the football.
68:00And maybe they weren't getting enough credit for revamping, being healthier.
68:03So Chargers obviously going to get stock down here.
68:06Cardinals deserve to stock up for playing a lot better than most people would give them credit for.
68:11But I do think the Chargers will bounce back.
68:13It's the first game with Justin Herbert and Mike McDaniel.
68:16But the Ladd McConkie injury obviously had a big impact because clearly they built a lot of their passing attack out of what he could do.
68:24So, Debra, I'll keep it quick, but I know you were kind of worried about the Chargers a little bit anyway.
68:30Hmm. Yeah, I was I was more skeptical about the Chargers when there was all this like hope and hype and stuff.
68:36And I threw this stat out in the preseason.
68:38And I don't think everybody kind of like realized what I was kind of talking about here.
68:43Just for everybody just to understand, is it really Mike McDaniel that's so awesome?
68:47Or is it the fact that Mike McDaniel had Tyreek Hill?
68:50Because if you look at the on-off splits with Tyreek Hill for the Miami Dolphins 2022 to 2025, with Tyreek Hill in
68:57the field, EPA per play, seventh best. EPA per drop back, sixth best.
69:00Success rate, tenth best. Without Tyreek Hill, in those same three statistical categories, 27th, 27th, 23rd.
69:05So, is every Mike McDaniel hope and hype tweet really just more respect that should have been given to Tyreek Hill?
69:11We're going to find out, boys. We are going to find out.
69:14Debra, who's your stock down? Is it time to just give up hope for Marvin Harrison Jr.?
69:19I mean, we're walking out of week one. He got out-targeted by Trey McBride, Michael Wilson, Jeremiah Love.
69:24Oh, no, those are big shockers. Oh, wait, Kendrick Bourne says hi as well.
69:28Marvin Harrison Jr. had 33 receiving yards. He basically just played—he was the field stretcher.
69:32He had a 23 ADOT. He had an 8.1% target share and a 7.4% first read share.
69:37I—is it—is it the point where we just say Marvin Harrison Jr.
69:41will never be the person or the player that we were hoping he was going to be?
69:46It is time to just sell, sell, sell. I also kind of believe that he is still being put in the role that is not suited to him.
69:54If I'm the Raiders, I call the Arizona Cardinals right now.
69:57I trade for Marvin Harrison Jr. and I put him into the Drake London role and would see what he can do.
70:03But I doubt that happens. So, ugh. This was tough.
70:06I don't want it to be true. Not a great start to my—I went into the season saying I'm going to give him one more chance.
70:13Like, one last ride, one last opportunity to show something.
70:16Are you off now after week one? I'm not— Are you, like, done?
70:20I'm not wired to be off on anybody after just one week, but it is a discouraging start through it.
70:25I think I'm more on the other side of things.
70:28I'm not sure what else more we need to see in terms of how is he going to be in a different role.
70:35That's totally fine. I'm done. I'm done. With the Cardinals offense with the way that's being deployed where Michael Wilson is in that Z role.
70:42So he's getting more of the underneath stuff. Michael Wilson still had nine targets in this game, despite Kendrick Warren seeing a
70:48ton of all— Kendrick Warren was just eating up underneath, like out of the slot.
70:52It's so clear what these roles are defined as.
70:55And Harrison is the ex-field stretcher. And to give him credit, the catch he made was really good.
71:00Like, he made a really nice, over-the-shoulder 33-yard gain, but that's not good for fantasy.
71:04Like, he can be an okay real-life wide receiver for the Arizona Cardinals, but in terms of where he falls for fantasy
71:11football purposes, where he falls and how important he is to the Cardinals passing attack, it's just not nearly as important.
71:17And because he is a leftover from previous coaching staffs— I get that it's the same GM, but Monte Allison for it necessarily hasn't.
71:23I don't know how long his leash is as the Arizona Cardinals GM, considering how dysfunctional the franchise has been.
71:29They don't have an allegiance to, or we have to feature Marvin Harrison Jr.
71:33It's like, nope, like he's going to be our ex-receiver, field stretcher, and when we give him opportunities— I mean, he also had a drop in this game.
71:41Like, one of the first passes, it was like, all right, let's get Harrison going and drop, right?
71:46So, I don't think we've seen it with Jacoby as well.
71:49I think Jacoby has rapport with Michael Wilson. Jacoby has rapport with Kendrick Warren, dating back to when they played in New
71:55England together, and obviously has rapport with Trey McBride.
71:58So, Harrison's competing with, like, the running backs for targets.
72:01Yeah, it's not happening, unless he goes to a different team.
72:04I'm not out. I'm not putting the nail in the coffin.
72:07I am down, though. I don't disagree with that at all.
72:10This stock down, I think, is super valid, and I'm on board with it.
72:14He's been played in the absolutely wrong role for the entirety of his NFL career.
72:18Like, I'll say it again. He should be in the Drake London role.
72:22He should be in a 50%, like, in the slot, out wide, chain mover, let him go beat up, like, nickel corners.
72:28Like, and that has never been what they've done with him, ever.
72:32I think with Harrison, though, I don't think he's even— he's not as good as after the catch, though.
72:37Like, that's the thing. Like, at least London, I feel like, can do more.
72:41No, that's fine. London can do way more after the catch.
72:44He could be your possession guy. It's like, yeah, you want to make him a possession receiver, but then he doesn't create yards after the catch.
72:52So now you're running into another issue of, okay, he's still now a limited player even when we're putting him into a
72:58more ideal role for his skill set. So, yeah.
73:01All right. My stock down is the running back dead zone narrative.
73:04I don't know when exactly the dead zone starts, for your guys' opinion in drafts, but some of the names that you
73:10could make a case are in that dead zone, like rounds three to five or six range, however you define it.
73:16But Javante Williams, multiple touchdowns last night. Brees Hall, good first game it was against the Titans, of course.
73:22I thought Bucky Irving looked good. DeAndre Swift was in this dead zone.
73:25Obviously a huge game from him, and we were saying he might be a little undervalued.
73:30Cam Scadaboo scores a touchdown coming back from injury.
73:32We think the Giants might be pretty good. Yeah.
73:35I think that's obviously the biggest name of the dead zone running backs you listed because I think some of them are
73:41– Can I just name off some running backs that went everywhere in real-time ADP from 32nd overall to 65th?
73:47Yeah. Brees Hall, Travis E. Chan, DeAndre Swift, Cam Scadaboo, Bucky Irving, David Montgomery, and we'll throw in Basial Tootin and Ramondre Stevenson for good luck there.
73:55Yeah, and to Erickson's point, Montgomery, like a huge standout there, I think.
73:58I mean, Swift too, I would say as well.
74:01But yeah, my point is stocked out and it's like, hey, maybe it was okay to invest in running backs in this
74:07range, especially when you can get guys like Christian Watson and Parker Washington a couple rounds later.
74:12It seemed to be the right play. Or do you sell high?
74:15Is this the time? You got to sell high on the dead zone.
74:19I mean, I called Dave Montgomery dead zone back and scored three touchdowns, so that didn't make me feel very good.
74:25I think David Montgomery might be my favorite guy to sell of these.
74:29I mean, he only rushed for three yards a carry.
74:31He just got a lot of touchdowns, right? And it was against a team that was a really poor run defense a
74:38year ago in their first game with a brand new defensive coordinator.
74:41Like, I liked Montgomery this year. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the best game he has all season.
74:47Obviously, it's hard to get three touchdowns in a game.
74:50Like, I do still think he will get that kind of usage near the goal line, so I don't think the touchdowns are going anywhere.
74:57But I don't think this is going to be a good, efficient, high yardage back.
75:01The flip side to that is, okay, fine, they get the Bengals next week.
75:05But after that, the Colts, Derek Henry just demolished them.
75:08Then they get the Cowboys, who look lost on defense still.
75:11And they get the Titans. Hello, Brees Hall and what he did.
75:14They get the Jaguars. That's not great. Then the Giants and the Chargers.
75:18The Chargers look like they're still, what are we at, like a decade plus of, like, the Chargers still trying to figure out their run defense?
75:25It's rest of season, Dave Montgomery or Jeremiah Love?
75:28Montgomery. Jeremiah Love for being a top five pick played behind Tyler.
75:31Yeah, but he looked good. Tyler was your rainbow.
75:34Yeah, but he's coming back from the ankle stuff.
75:37I get it. I get it. But, like. You look like the best running back on that game.
75:42He's really good, but still, man. It's a fair question, but I prefer Love.
75:46I'm not going to say after one win that the Cardinals are a good, a well-run organization.
75:50That's all. I prefer DeAndre Swift to both. But I would prefer Love, I think, to memory.
75:55Yeah, Killsine. All right, we'll go ahead. We'll wrap things up there.
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