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The insiders Podcast: Vikings Starting Quarterback Announced & Josh Allen and Lance Briggs Join the Insiders

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46 min
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Aug 12, 2026
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Wed, August 12, 2026
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Brock PurdyJ.J. McCarthyKyler MurrayPuka NacuaCaleb WilliamsCarson BeckCeeDee LambD.J. MooreDaniel JonesDrake MayeGeorge PickensJacoby BrissettJayden DanielsJonathan Taylor
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Brock Purdy

PositiveUsage20:06

The source notes that Brock Purdy is a really good player who had a hell of a day in practice, showing very few bad plays while demonstrating discipline and execution in the offensive system.

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PositiveProjection33:26

Robert Saleh praised Brock Purdy's performance during joint practices, noting that he had a 'hell of a day' with very few bad plays observed.

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Caleb Williams

NegativeInjury42:36

Lance Briggs identifies health as the primary hurdle for the Bears' success in 2026, explicitly noting that losing a player of Caleb Williams' caliber would be a loss too significant for the team to overcome.

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Carson Beck

NegativeValue36:17

While Carson Beck looked good recently, the source advises against adding him in standard one-quarterback fantasy leagues, noting that the hype is primarily driven by dynasty superflex formats.

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CeeDee Lamb

NegativeUsage5:01

During joint practices with the Rams, CeeDee Lamb was utilized in a versatile role, moving across the formation from the slot to out wide. The coaching staff is actively planning these alignments to counter specific defensive formations.

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D.J. Moore

PositiveValue35:32

The source believes DJ Moore is currently undervalued in fantasy rankings and predicts he will be the best receiver Josh Allen has ever played with.

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Daniel Jones

PositiveInjury13:40

Daniel Jones is moving well and throwing on the run during camp. The source notes that if you were unaware of his previous major injury, you would not be able to tell by watching him, as he appears to be on schedule for the season.

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Drake Maye

PositiveProjection10:45

Drake Maye and the Patriots' offense looked very efficient during joint practices. Maurice Jones-Drew noted that the unit appears to have fewer kinks to work out than expected this early in training camp.

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George Pickens

PositiveBreakout5:01

George Pickens displayed his ability to win on contested catches during joint practices against the Rams. The source notes the potential of the Dallas offensive tandem is 'insane' despite early struggles against the Rams' defense.

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J.J. McCarthy

NegativeDepth Chart2:05

Following the Vikings' decision to name Kyler Murray the starter, rookie JJ McCarthy will move to the bench to focus on development. His path to playing time remains uncertain as he begins his career as a backup.

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NegativeDepth Chart21:52

Despite Kyler Murray being named the starter, the team emphasizes that J.J. McCarthy remains an incredibly important member of the quarterback room and has shown strong evidence of growth.

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Jacoby Brissett

PositiveDepth Chart25:23

The Cardinals have made it clear that the starting quarterback job belongs to Jacoby Brissett. While the team likes rookie Carson Beck, they are not looking to rush him into the lineup.

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Jayden Daniels

PositiveProjection20:43

Jayden Daniels is showing high accuracy and comfort in the new offensive system under David Blough. The addition of Stefon Diggs is expected to be a major factor for the offense on third downs.

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Jonathan Taylor

PositiveUsage12:05

Jonathan Taylor ran very well during joint practices, including a notable big run in the red zone.

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Josh Allen

PositiveUsage22:55

Josh Allen feels very comfortable in the new offensive system and is enjoying the chemistry with his teammates, specifically noting the addition of DJ Moore as a positive impact on the passing game.

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Kyler Murray

PositiveRole0:29

The Minnesota Vikings have officially named Kyler Murray their starting quarterback. Head coach Kevin O'Connell cited Murray's athleticism, playmaking ability, and 'superpower' of creating plays when the pocket breaks down as the primary reasons for the decision.

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PositiveDepth Chart20:35

Kevin O'Connell has named Kyler Murray the starting quarterback for the Vikings' Week 1 game against the Packers, citing his accuracy, athleticism, and ability to process information.

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Luther Burden

NegativeInjury34:46

Luther Burden III suffered a groin injury that has caused concern among fantasy enthusiasts regarding his availability and potential role.

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Patrick Mahomes

PositiveInjury20:25

Patrick Mahomes is showing positive signs in his recovery from knee surgery, with improved footwork and a mental state where he is 'forgetting' the knee was repaired during practice drills.

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Puka Nacua

NegativeInjury5:54

Puka Nacua left practice early with trainers, but reports indicate the issue is not serious and was a precautionary measure. He was having a strong practice prior to the exit.

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NegativeInjury20:21

Puka Nacua left practice early due to minor soreness in his groin, with the team choosing to be cautious by holding him out of the joint practice against the Dallas Cowboys.

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Episode Transcript

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0:00This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. NFL: The Insiders is a great day for joint practices like we had here in Los Angeles as well in Foxboro.
0:08Another day of training camp practices in Glendale and in Buffalo and another hour of the insiders coming your way right now on NFL Network.
0:16Hey everybody welcome to the insiders Patrick Claiborne here in the NFL LA newsroom fun day of joint practices where we got
0:22to see some some competition friendly and not so friendly we'll get to that but we start with a competition for a quarterback.
0:29Which is what's new today coming into the NFL LA newsroom the Vikings have named the winner of the quarterback competition between Kyler Murray and JJ McCarthy.
0:37It is Kyler head coach Kevin O'Connell says the timing allows them to provide clarity and move forward towards the season for more.
0:44Let's get to NFL Network insider Ian Rappaport. The Minnesota Vikings made clear earlier today what had become evident if you've tracked their practices the last several days.
0:52Kyler Murray is going to be their starting quarterback coach Kevin O'Connell informed the team earlier today and to be real.
0:59This was something that has been in the works since Kyler signed as a big ticket free agent in March.
1:05He picked the Vikings they picked him for this very reason and in explaining the decision what Kevin O'Connell said.
1:11It's the what this could be that jumps out the potential the athleticism the playmaking ability the reason that they wanted Kyler
1:17Murray in the first place has played out during the preseason practices and the reality is his superpower comes when plays break down in games.
1:25That is what they're looking forward to seeing JJ McCarthy former first rounder.
1:29Now he heads to the bench. He will buy this time.
1:32He will try to quietly develop and see when he gets his opportunity in Minnesota.
1:36His story is not fully written, but whatever the outcome is going to be it's going to start on the bench watching Kyler Murray as the starter.
1:44Kyler will be starting that game against the Green Bay Packers in Minnesota.
1:48The Steelers are the ones who play host to the Packers Thursday for their preseason opener going to be the final preseason
1:55opener for Aaron Rodgers on a roster the quarterback offering his view of preseason in general this week.
2:00Oh, it's a preseason. It's not real football. So if I do great, if not great.
2:05And if you don't play, what do you what do you do during the game like to help will and Drew?
2:11I like to be on the headset and calm everybody down.
2:14Usually the first game is a little hectic on the headset.
2:18So I like to be the voice of reason occasional dad joke or one liner.
2:22Just keep everybody settled in a little bit. Well, we don't like the preseason games without joint practice that goes on that
2:29we got to see a few starting today the Colts and the Patriots and Foxborough the Buccaneers.
2:34The Patriots and Jets in Florham Park, the Titans and the 49ers in Santa Clara and there at the Woodland Hills facility.
2:40The Cowboys and the Rams were moments ago. Steve Weiss was the veteran navigator of Los Angeles able to get back to us here in studio.
2:48Thanks for coming in, Steve. So you got to see some of the most talented wide receiver groups in all of football.
2:55Oh my, oh my good. The practice was so star study.
2:58But you know, on one side, you've got CeeDee Lamb and George Pickens.
3:02The other side, Puka Nakua and Devante Adams. But first off, just a couple things about this practice that the coaches decided.
3:08No one on one work. This was all teamwork.
3:11So after this loosening up, both sides got after it.
3:14One versus two, one versus ones. But let's start with Dallas and CeeDee Lamb and George Pickens.
3:19It was tough sledding early on against this Rams defense, especially a corner.
3:23But you're seeing CeeDee Lamb right there. He was, they were moving him all over the place.
3:28Pre-snap in the slot out wide. These are things that Dak Prescott was countering or some things they had planned based on the Rams defensive formations.
3:36Remember, this is the first time these guys have practiced against somebody other than themselves.
3:40George Pickens, you saw the contested catches, Patrick. And as the practice moved along, again, Dallas' offense had some tough sledding.
3:47You saw these guys do some work in the red zone.
3:50The potential of this tandem is insane. Now let's move it over to the Rams.
3:54That's Puka Nakua and Devontae Adams. Nakua actually left practice early with the trainer, but I just received a text that said
4:01it is not serious if it was a precautionary measure and they would have kept him on the field if this was a game.
4:08That is good news because we did not get an immediate update on what exactly happened, if there was an injury or not.
4:15But he did leave with the trainers. But again, Nakua was having a very good practice.
4:20One thing we saw with the Rams, again, multiple tight ends doing work across the middle of the field.
4:25The Rams though did throw three interceptions to the same player and that was the middle linebacker, Justin Barron.
4:31He had himself a day for the Cowboys. Yeah, the Cowboys have been looking for help in the middle linebacker for a few seasons now.
4:38And you want to talk about defense, both of these teams adding especially on the defensive line, especially the team in Los
4:45Angeles, which has had some very notable additions. Hey, Miles Garrett didn't practice today.
4:49They said he had a little swelling on his knee, but again, some self-preservation stuff going on with the Rams.
4:55But let's not forget what they already have up front.
4:58They've got Puna Ford. They've got Kobe Turner. They've got Braden Fisk.
5:02They've got Byron Young. And boy, did they show up early on in this practice today on the inside running drills.
5:08The Cowboys, it was tough sledding. As those four and some other players rotating in really stood firm, would not allow themselves to get moved off that ball.
5:16But Miles Garrett comes back. That's one thing. Oh yeah, there's that Aaron Donald guy who still could be coming back.
5:23Sean McVay, the head coach, had nothing new on that front.
5:26But he would like to hear something sooner rather than later.
5:29But it wasn't just the Rams defront that looked good.
5:32Quinnen Williams next to Kenny Clark for those Dallas Cowboys.
5:35We know Quinnen Williams is signed that three-year $105.9 million extension.
5:38And he ain't resting on that money, Patrick. He was out there doing work today.
5:43You could see that defensive front with Rashawn Gary and some players that the Cowboys have added.
5:48That's how you protect the two smaller speedy linebackers.
5:51The Marvian Overshone and Dee Winters. Those guys are making plays all over the field in the run game because they've got some help up front.
5:58And again, that's the way you make counters from smaller linebackers by keeping people off of them.
6:03And that's the hypothetical path forward to a victory for the Cowboys victories.
6:07Getting Christian Parker's defense just okay. And rookie Caleb Downs too.
6:11I gotta say, he's as good as advertised if you hear a lot of good stuff about him.
6:16Also better than advertised. Steve White making the trip from Woodland Hills to get back with us here.
6:21Thank you, Steve. For that effort again, not the only marquee joint practice of the day.
6:26That one in the NFC. What about on the AFC side?
6:29The Colts and the Patriots at work in Foxborough.
6:32Judy Batista and Maurice Jones Drew there to see it all.
6:35MJD, this was a pretty intense practice. The joint practice between the Patriots and Colts.
6:40And the Patriots gave the fans what they wanted right out of the gate in one on ones.
6:45Drake May to AJ Brown being covered by Sauce Gardner.
6:48Completion. Crowd went crazy. And they went from there.
6:51A really good day, I thought, for the Patriots offense.
6:54Oh, no, awesome. No question. It was an action packed day on both fields.
6:58I mean, you were hearing the Patriots fans cheer for the defense, cheer for the offense.
7:03Drake May and the offense look very efficient this early in camp.
7:06I know they've only been in it for a couple of weeks, but there didn't seem like as many kinks that needed to be worked out.
7:14On the other field, though, the Colts were working through some things offensively.
7:18Daniel Jones looked really good. There was some times where he just couldn't get the ball out because of the protection broke down.
7:25Jonathan Taylor ran very well, had a big run in the red zone.
7:29Ty Warren, Tyler Warren had a great catch, contested catch over the middle of the field.
7:34So there was a lot of energy going back and forth.
7:37One little fist of cups broke out, but they broke that up very quickly.
7:41That was a special team deal. Both teams got what they wanted after talking to both coaches or coaches on both sides.
7:48This was exactly what they wanted. A lot of really good reps.
7:51They were going fast. Mike Vrabel was on the offensive side coaching up the offense on the other field.
7:57It was Shane Steichen and his guys. They were getting after it.
8:00They were getting some hurry up tempo in. So a lot of reps, a lot of skill on skill.
8:06And I think both teams got a lot better today.
8:09Mike Vrabel said it before the practice started that Drake May, for example, is not playing in the Thursday preseason game, nor will Daniel Jones.
8:16So this was really the chance for the ones to go at it.
8:20Let's talk more about Daniel Jones, who I thought looked if you did not know that he had had a major injury,
8:27you would not know from how he looks. He's moving well.
8:30He was throwing on the run. He was moving around the pocket really well.
8:34I don't know if you would say he's ahead of schedule, but he just looked on schedule.
8:39He looked really good for the first week of the season.
8:43Oh, yeah. A lot of people said, hey, he's a guy that they're looking forward to.
8:47He needs working to get back to 100%, but he looks really good right now.
8:52Okay. That's it. Here from Patriots. Thanks to Judy and Maurice.
8:55The Buffalo Bills back at work ahead of their preseason home opener on Saturday.
8:59A first for new head coach Joe Brady. A first for new Highmark Stadium.
9:04Mike Garofalo and Kyle Brandt look back on the day's work from the day.
9:08From Orchard Park. What a day in Orchard Park, New York.
9:11Got to see the new stadium. Got to see the new head coach.
9:15Got to see the same quarterback. He looks great though.
9:18He looks great. DJ Moore looks great. Yeah. And I think the headline is Joe Brady of all the conversations we had
9:24today, Mike, about the new head coach. We talked to one player who described him in a very interesting way.
9:30He said, Joe Brady is a Florida guy and the Florida players show up differently.
9:35They have a different way about them. Joe Brady also coached at LSU.
9:39They show up differently. So he shows up a little bit like the players.
9:43Like I'm from Florida. I went to Everglades High School.
9:46That's as Florida as it comes. I've coached at LSU in the SEC.
9:50I'm not just your normal NFL widget coach. I have some presence to him and you can feel that around the players.
9:56It's a different environment from Sean McDermott who wanted everything to be done a particular way.
10:01A little bit of Tom Coughlin when I was here in the way that they were describing Sean McDermott, which I don't
10:08know that we talked enough about during his tenure.
10:10Because it worked. It did work. And there's a reason why he wants these things done a certain way because he feels
10:17like that that reflects itself in the play of the team.
10:20So Joe Brady, the challenge is to loosen things up a little bit.
10:24He told us he's encouraging the players to celebrate during practice because he wants that to happen on game day as well.
10:31Wants to make this a little bit more fun, but you also have to have the discipline and it's not like he's ignoring those details.
10:38He wants to make sure the finer details are being worked on here in training camp, whether it's how you're carrying the
10:45ball, whether it's this decision you're making in crunch time, all that kind of stuff.
10:49Now the offensive players already know him. It's about translating it to the defensive side of the ball because he's worked with the offense as a coordinator.
10:57So that's going to be a little bit of a challenge for him.
11:01He's got Jim Leonard as his defensive coordinator, hearing some early good returns there.
11:05So overall, I mean, there's no reason why this team shouldn't hit the ground running, right?
11:10I think they will. And they have, I mean, listen, it's camp 17.
11:14Josh Allen's always going to be here, but there's newness now and that's exciting.
11:18We'll see him week one against a very, very good Texas team.
11:22Back to the homes and the chiefs back at practice, but perhaps not back on to the field in a game situation until the season starts.
11:29Andy Reed saying he may sit out the whole cheese preseason, but the recovery continues to be ahead of most schedules.
11:36And during a chat with Stacy Dales and Brian Baldinger yesterday, Packers star edge defender, Micah Parsons said week six, the most
11:42optimistic return date for him after his reconstructive knee surgery.
11:45The Packers fell from sixth in scoring defense to 25th in their time without Micah Parsons.
11:50Joined now by Jeff Chedia as Jeff Mahomes and Parsons, both former all pros, both candidates for comeback player of the year,
11:56where it could be a lot of guys that fall into that category.
12:00So let's go through some of your candidates for comeback player of the year.
12:05Well, you got to start with Patrick Mahomes here, Patrick, just because of the narrative around him.
12:10This was one of the biggest injuries that the league has seen.
12:13Everybody's watching what he's doing throughout the preseason and be honest with you.
12:17I'll talk about is he declining? Is this team declining?
12:20So I think the motivation for Patrick Mahomes is there and he talked about some good signs here.
12:25He's forgetting that the knee has been repaired when he's running around in practice.
12:30He's seeing a lot of positive footwork improvement there.
12:32And so he's feeling pretty good about where he's at.
12:35So that gives me a lot of confidence in what he's doing.
12:39And for number two here, I'll stick with the quarterbacks and I'll go to Jane Daniels in Washington because you look about it.
12:46You look at a new offensive coordinator coming in here with David Blau, a new system for him to work in.
12:52Blau is very excited by what he's seen as far as accuracy and the comfort level in this offense.
12:58And Stefan Diggs coming in there. The recent free agent signing is big for third downs.
13:02I expect Jane Daniels to get back to what he looked like a couple of years ago.
13:07And then finally, I'll go off script here with the guy who's not signed yet.
13:12Aaron Donald, because there's too much smoke here, Patrick, for what's happening.
13:15He's been working out. Yes. Sean McVay says there's a process here.
13:19He wants to go through to see what's going to happen, but he can't be on this field doing this stuff and
13:26seeing guys like Myles Garrett in the locker room and Kobe Turner and Byron Young and not thinking about coming back.
13:32This guy's got three defensive players a year honors been gone for two years.
13:36He comes back. There's no way he's not winning this award.
13:39Yeah. It's funny to think of both Aaron Donald and Patrick Mahomes as candidates for comeback player of the year, just a
13:46ho-hum, another award for all of these guys looking forward to it.
13:49Thank you to Jeff Judea checking out this comeback player of the year race.
13:54When we come back joint practices provide an opportunity to see how your team can match up with another, maybe a chance
14:00to take a few swings at somebody who isn't a teammate.
14:03We got updates from joint practices all around the league coming up on the inside.
14:08So you know the feeling you make a pick in your fantasy draft in the entire room groans because they wanted that
14:15player or you grab a small school rookie off waivers and you start him right before he goes off in prime time.
14:21There's no better feeling than crushing your fantasy football league.
14:24I'm JJ Zacharyson host of the late round fantasy football podcast.
14:27I heart radio app. I heart. We're back on the insiders preseason football available to you this week on NFL network.
14:34The Packers Steelers Thursday at 7 PM. The Cardinals Raiders after that Thursday at eight Buccaneers and Jets Friday at seven o'clock.
14:40That game available to you on NFL network. We get to see the Cardinals and the Raiders on ESPN on Thursday.
14:46Let's look to where they were working today. Jacoby Brissett and the Arizona Cardinals in action.
14:51They had some solid debut for their rookie quarterback, Carson Beck, the hall of fame game last week.
14:57They got a trip to Las Vegas coming up on that Thursday for more on the Cardinals.
15:02Let's get to our hall of fame quarterback, Kurt Warner and Ian Rappaport in Glendale.
15:06Here after Cardinals practice here with, with Kurt Warner and I think the whole country saw the kind of performance that Carson
15:13Beck put on the field during the hall of fame game.
15:16It was pretty electric considering the stage. It was, there's a lot to like from the rookie, but one thing is clear
15:23from talking to people here in Arizona, it's not a quarterback competition.
15:26It is Jacoby Brissett shop. Just don't want to throw Carson Beck in early, although he is a prospect they really like that said for Michael floors team.
15:34There's some positive signs from what we saw. I think a lot of positive signs, you know, when we got a chance
15:41to talk to him today, he was talking about the operation.
15:44I wanted to see my guys operate in the offense the way that it's supposed to be operated.
15:50And that's what he took from the game. He wasn't too high.
15:53You know, he, he wasn't blowing any smoke about anybody in particular.
15:57He just said, this is part of our process is we want to operate the offense, new offense for all these guys.
16:03But you're right. Everybody watching that game was like, Oh, do they have their quarterback of the future?
16:09And you know, the future is when I think that's the real question is how good can this team be?
16:15We're great last year. Expectations aren't necessarily high, but that to me is when Carson Beck's plays is going to be determined by where this football team is.
16:23Jacoby Brissett is showing he can be a starter, right?
16:26But the team has got to come along with them.
16:29It's going to be a fun journey to watch how this plays out, but they are definitely excited about their young quarterback.
16:36Yeah. And there are plenty of name, uh, name brand talents on this team.
16:40You know, you talk about the Marvin Harrisons and, uh, Mike Wilson.
16:43And then, you know, on, on defense, you got, you got plenty of, of studs in there and plenty of guys we've
16:50heard of the Buddha Bakers of the world. How good this team is, is going to be determined by the players who
16:56have very quietly under the radar, just continue to develop and continue to advance and how well those guys play.
17:02And we will see time will tell if they're able to go from a pretty talented team to one that can really win some games on the field.
17:11I will tell you this courage. We get it, get ready to send it back to you, Patrick inside this building.
17:17They believe this team is much better than the outside world thinks.
17:21We will see if on the field, that's how it plays out pretty well in their debut.
17:26Thank you to Kurt and Ian. Here's a look at the joint practice schedule that we had, uh, that started today all around the league in LA.
17:34We talked about the Cowboys and the Rams, the Titans and the 49ers, but also the Buccaneers and the jets at work
17:40today in Florham park and get to see both of their quarterbacks, Geno Smith, Baker Mayfield, having their discussion before the work got going.
17:47Here's the head coaches, Todd Bowles and Aaron Glenn after their joint practice.
17:51We've got some real good work. I thought it started out real well, a few minor dust ups and fractions, but nobody
17:58really did anything when we got those infractions. We came up here to play football and get some work in.
18:04They did too. I thought we got some good work done.
18:07We got to see what the mistakes are on tape and kind of move forward from there.
18:12Good hard practice, which I knew would be against a team that's been to the playoffs a number of years against a
18:19team that has a scheme from a defensive standpoint, has a scheme that's difficult to deal with.
18:24And, um, and those guys been in that scheme for a long time with Todd, um, offensively, obviously they have a new, uh, new scheme there.
18:32Uh, I thought I guys did a really good job there.
18:35Um, but there was more work to do. And listen, I, I like everything about how practice was today.
18:40Obviously there are going to be some dust ups that happens in every joint practice.
18:45Uh, but I thought the guys, the guys did a really good job of man, forgetting about it, going to the next play and continue practicing.
18:53That's the one thing we're trying to do is get to, uh, two days of good work with these guys.
18:59Most of all, dust ups, as the coaches said, they're in Florham park.
19:03The joint practice with the most reported fights today, the one in Santa Clara as tempers flared early on, but there was a lot of cohesion.
19:10There's was a carnel Tate and D bowl Samuel working together and things a bit better between former coworkers, Kyle Shanahan and Robert Sala.
19:17Overall, just feeling it, you know, that this offense we went against today is one of the top five offenses in football.
19:24So there's a lot of back and forth and it was just encouraging.
19:28Um, you're not going to win every one on one, but, uh, but at the same time, there's, uh, there's definitely things that we can learn from.
19:36As you guys know, coach, I respect a ton.
19:39Um, I mean, when it starts with his defense, you know how sound it's going to be.
19:44And Sal is not going to put something, something in that he doesn't believe is sound versus everything.
19:49Um, so it's going to be very disciplined. It takes a little bit of time to get the guys that elite at it.
19:56So he's going to do it over and over again.
19:59And I can see they're already way ahead of schedule.
20:02Um, they've really competed today and, um, they definitely have a real good coach.
20:06Brock's a really good player. So I expect him to have good plays.
20:10So I noticed all the bad plays and I didn't notice many bad plays today.
20:14So I think he had a hell of a day.
20:17This is what's new today coming into the NFL LA newsroom.
20:21We heard earlier today from Steve Weich that Puka Nakua left practice.
20:24NFL network insider Ian Rappaport says it was minor soreness and his groin.
20:28The team was just being cautious. And that's why Puka Nakua did not return to that joint practice against the Dallas Cowboys.
20:35Kevin O'Connell naming their starting quarterback for week one against the Packers.
20:38That will be Kyler Murray. He says that the step was to get things done and move on and be prepared.
20:45Step one from Kevin O'Connell now complete. In my opinion, he's got the skill set, uh, and the abilities, you know, not
20:51only just from a standpoint of accuracy, but, uh, his ability to affect the game with his athleticism.
20:56Uh, but he's also proven to be, uh, smart, you know, very hardworking and able to take in a lot of information and churn that out.
21:04Now we really want to give him the opportunity to really start building a comfort level, uh, not only with the system, but with the guys.
21:12Uh, in no way, uh, does this diminish anything, uh, that JJ has demonstrated.
21:16Uh, there's been, uh, real, real strong, solid evidence of growth.
21:19Nothing changes as far as JJ being an incredibly important member of our quarterback room and our team.
21:25Back at work, the Buffalo bills ahead of their preseason matchup to open up their brand new stadium to the preseason.
21:31Joining ITC and Kyle Brandt earlier today, they're now ninth year quarterback, Josh Allen.
21:35Here he is your favorite fireball Eagle number 17, Josh Allen.
21:38Hello. Go Eagles. Go Eagles. Uh, how's life? What's up, dude?
21:42It's good to see you. It's good to see you too.
21:45It's good to have our conversations back, man. It's been a while.
21:49It's really good. And what our conversations usually start and end with our movies.
21:53Let's get caught up. Have you seen the Odyssey?
21:55I have not seen it yet. You haven't seen it?
21:58I haven't. I'm waiting for my wife. Oh, okay.
22:01And apparently you got to watch it in the IMAX 70 mil, right?
22:05Yes. I don't know where we're going to be able to do that here in Buffalo, but we'll figure it out.
22:11There's not a ton of IMAX in Western New York.
22:14I don't know, but we'll, we'll figure it out.
22:17Have you seen Obsession? No. I've been in camp.
22:20I've been in camp. It's been out for a while.
22:23You got to see it though. The young people when you see Obsession and like the film bros, you got to see Odyssey.
22:29Like you'll love both of them. Okay. And I'd be fascinated on Haley's opinion about Obsession because the young female lead is like unbelievable.
22:37So you got to catch up though at some point.
22:40Bi-week, that type of thing. Done. Football wise, you still play professional football.
22:43I've seen you practice a lot over the years.
22:46I don't think I've ever seen you have more fun.
22:49Why? I think this group that we have, it's, it's freaking awesome.
22:53Is it? I mean, everyone's melon or meshing and gelling together.
22:56A couple of additions that we got, obviously DJ Moore.
22:59He's been awesome to throw to, you know, the conversations I've been able to have with our head coach and feeling really
23:06comfortable in the offensive system of what's going in right now.
23:09So I'm just very confident in what we're doing right now and just going out there and having as much fun as possible.
23:16It shows. What do you think you're so great at recall throughout your career?
23:20What do you think is the most fun moment you have ever had in a bills uniform?
23:25Take your time. One moment. Take your time. Like what's the last year we did your favorite highlight.
23:30What do you think is your most fun moment?
23:33I think it was my second year. We clinched the playoffs in Pittsburgh.
23:37We got home and just the, the, the ride out from the airport with thousands of fans at two or three in the morning, it's freezing outside.
23:45That moment was pretty special. That was like the, Oh, this, this town cares moment.
23:49You know, that was, that was a special moment.
23:52I'll never forget it. I got video saved on my phone still.
23:56So that was a good one. Was that one of those where you get back and there's like 30 feet of snow on your car.
24:03Cause I know you've had those. There's those, those are the not so fun moments.
24:08Um, but honestly, whether there was snow, sleet, rain, sunshine, whatever, the fans are going to be there.
24:13And, uh, we've got the best, best, uh, fans over here in Western New York.
24:17You really do. I love them in my own way, but least fun moments.
24:22You've always been great at facing the music, whatever happens, whatever happens in a loss or playoff loss, we've seen you do it really, really well.
24:29You're good at it. It's tough. Last year seemed different after the loss of Denver.
24:34We've seen you after some tough losses. We've never really seen you like that, that emotional.
24:39I'm his full tears. It was really, really strong reaction.
24:42Why was that one different? Um, again, throughout life, you kind of have these moments and I walked up there and was expressing how I felt.
24:49I feel like I wear my heart on my sleeve, especially when I'm out on the football field.
24:55And that was just one of those moments where I'm not going to hide it.
24:59Like I'm, I'm hurt. I'm upset. Um, I knew that I didn't play very, very well and into my potential.
25:05Um, and when you're sitting there and you're going over plays, things that you wish you could have done differently, like it
25:12just kind of weighs on you and that one weighed on me.
25:15And that's still feeling it's kind of stuck in that pit of my stomach right now.
25:20Um, but the great thing about this game, we get to suit it up and do it again.
25:25And now you do with a new head coach.
25:28So there's been a lot talked about your relationship.
25:31You guys are really tight. You've been through a lot together.
25:34You and Joe Brady. I talked to him earlier in the day and I was like, so let me go the other way.
25:41Do you and Josh argue? And he was like, yeah, all the time.
25:45Do you have the same reaction? And how does that go?
25:48Uh, yeah, I mean, argues a loose term. We definitely have our disagreements.
25:52Yeah. Um, you know, had a play in practice today.
25:55He's like, I don't know about that. He's like, dude, you missed the missed inside.
25:59I was like, you're right. I did miss inside.
26:02You know, it's like, he holds me accountable. I hold him accountable.
26:06Um, but at the end of the day, he's, he's our head coach, you know, and as players, we, we have to do what the head coach wants.
26:14This is his team. This is his, uh, identity.
26:17And this is his trajectory of what, what he wants this team to be.
26:21And, um, it's my job to be an extension of him as well as, you know, a leader of this team as,
26:27as well as the offensive play caller. And when I'm out on the field, I have to understand why he's calling certain
26:34things, what, what, what to do, what not to do.
26:37Um, but ultimately be an extension of him. You know, there's, I think there's this mistruth about him that he's, he's happy, go lucky fun.
26:44He's like, he's a bro. I'm like, hold on a second.
26:48From a fan perspective, he came up under Sean Payton who came up under Bill Parcells.
26:52Like that is accountability and that is like cracking skulls when you need to.
26:57Right. Yeah. And he is an absolute workhorse. I mean, he spends so much time in the building, you know, watching film,
27:03uh, finding new plays, finding new concepts. Like it, he doesn't sleep all that much.
27:08Um, he's, he's laid off the caffeine a little bit this year, but I'm, I'm assuming once we get into the full
27:14swing in the season, he'll start getting those fast switches down and start talking really fast.
27:19But, um, yeah, he's, uh, he's been awesome so far in camp and you know, the guys are really buying into what he's saying.
27:26And, um, it's been great to see. He's got an awesome vibe to talk to.
27:31It's just from my perspective, sharp left turn. Where do you keep the MVP trophy?
27:35Where is that? In honesty, we did a little bit of renovation right now.
27:39Let's go. It's, it's in a box in the basement and that's hand, hand to God truth.
27:44Is that going to come out of the box or it stays there?
27:48I don't know. We'll see. Okay. Well, I have a question about another item.
27:52You've told me before that you have a special bottle of bourbon saved to drink after winning the Superbowl is the bourbon bottle still out.
28:00No. Yeah, of course. Yes. Yeah. The bourbon, the bourbon still out.
28:03It's not in a box. No, not in a box.
28:06All right. So you're a producer now produced me, produced me an image of this.
28:11When you're having that bourbon, when that day comes, where are you?
28:14Who are you with? Is it with teammates? Was it family?
28:18Is it by yourself? Like how is that bourbon, the most important bourbon drink of your life going to go?
28:24Well, I hope that whole bottle is gone with how many people I'm sharing it with.
28:28I hope everyone gets a nice little taster and there's a quite a few people down in the basement.
28:34Um, but yeah, I mean, I, hopefully I'm not drinking a lot of it by myself.
28:39All right. Bring everybody over. Exactly. This is, this is this part of the interview and you know, you're so good at
28:45this, but every interview with you inevitably leads to, is this going to be the year?
28:50And it's challenging just to come up to new ways to ask about it respectfully.
28:55What is that like for you to have to always answer that and to always know that it's coming?
29:00Yeah. I know you see it coming. Yeah. Listen, like I'm, we're doing everything we can here in, uh, in Buffalo.
29:07Um, we're working really hard right now. Those questions, I understand that they're being, being asked.
29:11And the only thing I can say is, you know, we'll find out, you know, this is, this is the great part of the game.
29:19We're going to put our pads on. We're going to go play on that field that we've been playing since we were little kids.
29:26Um, and at the end of the day, like I, I've, I kind of switched last year or two years ago.
29:32Like I'm not focusing so much on the results as far as the process and just enjoying what I'm doing and loving
29:39the game and playing it for the right reasons.
29:42And, um, you know, if I do my job to the best of my abilities, um, and, and get the, the surrounding
29:48team around me, um, they've, they feel like they're playing the same way and we accomplished that goal.
29:53It's going to feel fantastic. Um, but it's going to take everybody to do it.
29:58Um, and I'm just, uh, I'm looking forward to the season.
30:01It's a huge shift. You said a couple of years ago, you kind of altered the way you're thinking.
30:07And I think it's really healthy and constructive. Where did that come from?
30:11Was that, was that Haley or was that just internal?
30:14Like, how did you shift gears like that? Yeah.
30:16I think a big part of it was my wife and just understanding, like, listen, like there's gonna be ups and downs in life.
30:24And, um, I'm the big proponent on it's it'll happen when it happens.
30:27Um, and I'm going to trust God's timing when it does.
30:31So I'm just gonna keep having fun and playing the game, uh, the way that I know how to play it.
30:37Obviously I want to go out there and play my best each and every time I set foot on the field.
30:43Um, but when we get it done, it'll, it'll feel pretty dang good.
30:47Another vision. You're an exec producer. Now, if you don't know, Josh is going to do big things in media.
30:53Some things that are out there, some things that are not out there.
30:57Um, your daughter, God bless her. I want you to move forward to the year 2044.
31:02Okay. Okay. So young Harper is 18 years old.
31:04She comes to you and she's looking over your career and she's online and she's reading about some stuff that she might've missed when she was younger.
31:12And she says, dad, tell me about the 2026 team.
31:15What was that team about? Well, hopefully she's sitting there saying this picture of you holding me on the field under the confetti is pretty cool.
31:23So that's, that's the vision that I have. Um, you know, and, and what I'll tell her is we worked really hard
31:30and this is a team that loved, loved each other and, uh, accomplished something so great.
31:35And that's, uh, that's sometimes what it takes. It takes a lot of sacrifice from those around you, everybody in the building
31:41here, outside, all of our wives and girlfriends making sacrifices for us to come out here and do what we do.
31:47Um, but hopefully that she can see that there was a lot of love on the scene and, um, um, hopefully we can set what we accomplish.
31:55That's a beautiful, beautiful answer. I would like a picture of her on the, on the float too.
32:01On the, I mean, I imagine that just side to side this Josh.
32:05Um, he's not seen the Odyssey. He's not seen obsession.
32:08I was shocked, but you've got big things going on in life right now.
32:12You can't be running off. Yeah. The, the TV shows and movies have slowed down just a bit.
32:17It's fine. Um, I am on the third season of house of the dragon.
32:21Did you get to the finale? I have not gotten to the finale yet.
32:25You got something waiting for you. I'm like, uh, episode five right now.
32:29So I got a couple more. Um, I watched the Hawk with Will Ferrell and which I thought it was great.
32:36Okay, good. That was great. I think that it was, uh, I thought Jimmy Tatro plays a fantastic role on that.
32:42I've heard of this. I've not seen that. It's, it's, it's really good.
32:46It's well, it's, it's funny. It's great. There's sometimes things out there that, oh, allegedly a lot of people don't like, but are actually really great.
32:54You know what I mean? Yeah. Hey, sometimes it just takes one, right?
32:57It takes the right audience, but, um, yeah, I appreciate you.
33:01You're the man. You're the man. That's Josh Allen.
33:03He is a fireball Eagle and he's a Buffalo bill.
33:06Number 17. Thanks to Kyle and Josh. Hey folks, ESPN fantasy.
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33:23Now time for rank you very much joining us now in the newsroom.
33:27It's Adam. Hey man. Oh my gosh. So good to be here.
33:30Glad I could be here with you. Yes. So, uh, listen, there, there's a lot of things going on and we had
33:37a game in the books, Patrick and all what a game it was.
33:41And already people are overreacting to some performances. There's been some injuries that have us worried, but we start in Minnesota where
33:47the Vikings have named Kyler Murray as their starting quarterback, a move that has a lot of people reacting like this.
33:54And, um, oh, there he is. There he is.
33:56Oh, we needed him. There he is. He's back.
33:59He's back. Hold it. Hold it. Listen, I applaud this move.
34:02Look, we have no shortage. Hey, no. Oh, sorry.
34:05Sorry. We have many jokes that can be made, but we can't overlook the work that Kevin O'Connell is done with quarterbacks
34:12around the league with Sam Darnold, Daniel Jones and JJ McCarthy.
34:15Maybe not. Don't, don't hold JJ McCarthy against him.
34:18Even Christopher Nolan made tenants. So not everything is going to be what we can't talk.
34:22Move out. It takes. Listen, we're not, I guess not everybody can talk movies, but give Kyler the rest of the preseason to work as the starter.
34:30And we might have a guy who leads you to a fantasy football championship this year, or else he joins the Savannah bananas.
34:37And I'm fine with either one of those outcomes.
34:40Staying in the NFC North. We got some bad news this week when Luther burden, the third suffered a groin injury, an
34:47injury that not only caused panic with the bears fans, but fantasy enthusiasts in general.
34:51And it's weird, almost off putting to see so many non bears fans have an opinion on this.
34:56This many people haven't weighed in on Chicago business.
34:59This crazy since all of you wanted to be involved in the ketchup on a hot dog debate.
35:04All right. Hit me with it. What is ketchup on a hot dog?
35:08If it's your hot dog, do what you want to do.
35:12I'm not putting it on mine, but food is about freedom.
35:15So have a hot dog. All right. You always, I can't lord on other people's food.
35:20That's weird. All right. You're right. All right. But we get it.
35:23Many of you are expecting Luther burden, the third to take over for DJ more this season.
35:28And if I, and if I could digress for a minute, I love DJ more in Buffalo.
35:33He is going to be the best receiver. Josh Allen has ever had that.
35:38I said what I said, and he's, he's way too low in your fantasy rankings, but Buffalo, it's not too late to change those jerseys.
35:45I'm going to tell you the same thing. I would have told Steve Harwell in 1994.
35:50It's not too late to stop this. Yes. Shrek wouldn't have been the same, but still this uniform looks like if diet Pepsi replaced Dr.
35:57Pepper is the title sponsor in that football throwing contest during college championship games.
36:01Like what does that football Ville with Brian Bosworth?
36:04That's exactly what the Jersey looks like. Don't do this.
36:07We're going to have the Broncos and Seahawks. Don't sully it with this.
36:11No, please. No. And then I finished though with a quick word on our friend Carson back who looked great the other night.
36:18And I saw an alert on a, on our ESPN app that said he should be on your fantasy radar.
36:24He shouldn't now. You know why? Because home leagues play with one quarterback.
36:28And we said last week, this quarterback pool is pretty deep.
36:31So here's what I'm saying. Those articles are about dynasty super flex leagues and the rules in those leagues impact just a small group of people.
36:39Dare I say 1%. There is no reason for the average fantasy player to be worried about that league at all.
36:45It doesn't concern you to simplify this further. If there is a league that you never had intention of joining, you don't
36:51need to be concerned about the rules in that league.
36:54This is especially true for people who are horrible in their own leagues and are just otherwise an afterthought.
37:00You don't need to get yourself worked up about a league that you have no business or talent to be in.
37:06They're doing fine without, without you. So please scurry back to obscurity.
37:10And what was I talking about? Quarterbacks. If you want more hot takes on quarterbacks, be sure to join us in the
37:16next couple of days because NFL fantasy live returns August 17th.
37:20You, me, Cynthia. It's going to be a ton.
37:22That's going to be great. Except for the person that rank was just talking about.
37:27And who's just an afterthought in all fantasy leagues.
37:30We got more coming up here on the insiders.
37:32As we look to the future of the NFL and to the past as USA gets involved with some vets and service members.
37:39That's next. And Lance Briggs on the inside. You know, the feeling you make a pick in your fantasy draft in the
37:46entire room groans because they wanted that player or you grab a small school rookie off waivers and you start him right
37:52before he goes off in prime time. There's no better feeling than crushing your fantasy football league.
37:57I'm JJ Zachary, host of the late round fantasy football podcast.
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38:07We've got data driven analysis, historical trends, and the strategies that separate winners from the rest.
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38:30We're back here on the insiders. These are the most probably pro bowl seasons by off ball linebackers in the last 30
38:36years by hall of fame eligible players. You look at all, they're all in the hall of fame, except for one Lance Briggs was seven.
38:44The same as junior say out Patrick Willis, Luke Kinkley, who just went in Zach Thomas, Lance Briggs.
38:49Now joining us on the insiders. Lance just wanted to set the tone because you know, we, we support players who deserve
38:55to be places being in places here on the insiders.
38:58Thanks for joining us. You've got the, uh, the USAA salute to service bootcamp.
39:03Can you tell us about that? Well, you know, it's, uh, it's number one, it's, it's a, it's an awesome partnership where,
39:09you know, that, um, that the NFL has, you know, with the military and, and it's a, it's a, it's a, it's
39:16a thank you, but it's also in the Walter Payton center.
39:19It's a great opportunity for a lot of the, the, uh, military members to come in and compete in some, uh, NFL
39:26combine style, uh, drills, you know, so you get to see what, who, who in the military could, could, could cut it
39:32in, uh, in, in football or in pro football in the, in the NFL.
39:36And what's it like for you personally to be able to, to take these, uh, men and women through this bootcamp?
39:43Well, it's, it's near and dear to me. You know, uh, I wouldn't be here with, without the military.
39:48And I, when I say that, um, my, my mother and my father literally met serving, you know, um, um, in the army.
39:55So, um, yes, they, they absolutely give me my comforts every day and I get up and I eat my eggs because,
40:02you know, somebody is, is sacrificing, um, um, overseas and protecting our walls, but my mother and father literally met in the
40:08army and, um, and I was created because of it.
40:11Let's get to your Chicago bears where the, the expectations are pretty high because of what they were able to accomplish, especially late in games, uh, last year.
40:20How do you feel they go about duplicating the success that they had in 2025?
40:24Well, you know, you gotta, uh, last year we had to keep an, uh, an AED machine around for the heart, you
40:31know, cause they were shocking us every week, you know, this year, you know, let's, let's, let's, let's, uh, win games more
40:37decisively, you know, so that, uh, we're not at the edge of our seat every game.
40:42It was, that was exciting. We love that. But, uh, I think the expectation now with this team, with this coach, um,
40:48and, and the moves that they've made, um, it's, it's, it's, it's gotta be greater than, than 11 wins.
40:54And Lance, you were part of a team that was able to take the ball away a considerable amount last year, uh,
41:01taking the ball away, uh, to almost an historical sense.
41:04Is that something that's going to be year in, year out tough to duplicate or can they have that similar success forcing
41:10turnovers with Dennis Allen's defense this year? Well, if you understand, you know, where the, the, the, the bread and butter is,
41:17and that's on the offense, you know, you look around on the offense and there's, you know, every position, there's something that
41:23you can argue the, why they're, they're supposed to be successful this year.
41:27So get the ball back to them. That puts a, a, a, a premium on taking the ball away, you know, winning
41:34on third down, being able to stop the run, because, uh, I think the only way that you can slow this team
41:40down is by keeping your offense off the ball.
41:43That means that you would have to be able to be able to run the ball successfully against the bears.
41:49And, uh, being able to, to run the ball, something they did.
41:53Uh, to a very extreme extent, especially down the stretch, uh, last year, what's the biggest you think hurdle, uh, for this
41:59team to duplicate that success in 2026? Health, health, health.
42:02I think for a lot of teams, when you, you find these teams that have these great runs, um, health also always comes into play.
42:10You know, you can stay healthy for the majority of the year, have your, uh, your by week come at the right
42:16time, you know, be able to rest those guys and other, an additional week or two and have them on the field.
42:23Um, you find a lot of success. Now you have a year where, you know, listen, things are going great.
42:29You're leading the NFC, NFC North. You're leading the NFC altogether.
42:32You have playoffs locked up and you lose a player like Caleb Williams.
42:36You know, that's, that's too big of a loss to carry over.
42:39And that happens for a lot of these teams.
42:42So for me, health, health is, uh, is the key.
42:45You know, the talent is there. Health is the key.
42:48And that will be the key and the goal for most of the folks in that area.
42:53Lance, uh, thank you for the work that you're doing with the USA.
42:57And thanks for joining us here on this edition of the insiders.
43:01You got it. Thanks for having me. The bills looking forward to the opening of new high marks stadium for its very
43:07first preseason game coming up this weekend. But before that, Mike Garofalo and Kyle Brandt take us on a tour of the Buffalo Bills new stadium.
43:15You were in the concourse. I'm here with Mike just to get some perspective.
43:19Like here's the field right here. This is the brand new grass field.
43:23And here is a wonderfully unobstructed view of it.
43:26You can see everything, right? It's a nice intimate little stadium, but Mike and I want to show you the personal details.
43:32It's not just some generic stadium. Mike, it's the personal touches.
43:35This is the ESPN cribs right here. Thank you for joining us.
43:39So hopefully you're old enough to get that. Soak the shocker.
43:42Welcome to my house. Yeah. So we going to the table.
43:46Yeah, let's show the table. Yeah. Okay. You might say magic happens, Mike.
43:49You might say this didn't pass inspection. No, no, no.
43:52This is intentional right here. This is the broken table and homage to everything that's going to be happening outside the building.
43:59The beer pong. And if the cups were that big, I'd be a world champion beer pong player right here.
44:05So we've got the table right here. Your thoughts on it's still low enough to like people are going to get up there.
44:12Yeah. So a couple of thoughts. The first thing I tried to do is, you know, obviously climate.
44:17So I jumped up here and you can because I wonder if at some point during the season, there'll be bills fans
44:24who actually try to climb up on this table for real.
44:27I'm not coincidence. I liked it right back there.
44:30Like just feet away. There's like 800 labats. Let me check that out.
44:34Hold on. Go ahead, Mike. You know, Mike's looking.
44:36I like that. There's also a warning here. And if you read the fine prints of the warning, it says, remember, Bill's mafia is forever.
44:44Tail bones are not. It's Mike. What do you got?
44:47Nothing. It's 425 somewhere. Come on. Let's go. Get me in there.
44:50Mike's going to be halfway in the bag, but this is again, you can make a stadium.
44:55It's just it's cement. The seats. It's a field.
44:58We get it. It's the personal touches. It's the giant table monument.
45:02You could call it to all those maniacs. We call Bill's mafia.
45:05And it's a really great looking stadium so far intimate as hell.
45:09I'm really into it. Thanks to Kyle and Mike G.
45:12You want an unobstructed view of the preseason and the NFL.
45:15Check out ESPN and the NFL network. Here is a week one preseason schedule after the Panthers and the Cardinals gave us a great preseason opener last Thursday.
45:23Looking forward to that. Inside training camp has its season finale coming up tomorrow on NFL network will be live at the
45:30Bucks Jets joint practice live with the Chiefs Falcons and Broncos.
45:33And we will conclude our live camp coverage, the vast network of flights, interviews, camera setups and collaboration that make it all possible.
45:40We enjoy bringing that to you here on NFL network.
45:43And we will, of course, be here to put a bow on all of that tomorrow on the insiders at seven o'clock Eastern.
45:50Have all that for you for all of us here in Inglewood.
45:54I'm Patrick Claiborne. Great show. Great finale to ITC coming up tomorrow.
45:57Thanks for watching insiders. We'll see you tomorrow right here.
46:00Good night. The entire draft room groans because you just took the guy they wanted.
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