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1:22The theme of the day is aggression. Everybody's blitzing.
1:24It's not just Brian Flores. Although Brian Flores is blitzing a lot.
1:28I tell our guys all the time, if we're going to go down, we're going to go down a certain way.
1:35He's sacked! It does feel like so far this NFL season is just a race to the top in terms of who could be the biggest psychopath.
1:44Don't challenge Brian Flores because he's already at crazy levels.
1:47And hearing you say that anybody might even be within the realm of conversation with him could take us to DEFCON 1
1:54numbers when it comes to how many resources Brian Flores is going to send at the line of scrimmage.
2:00But you're right. We're going to do a lot of things here on this show.
2:05We're still going to preview some of the big games that are coming up for Week 3.
2:10But specifically, you and I and the team, when everybody talked about it, we're two weeks into the season.
2:16We are kind of starting to see some trends that I think are at least worth pointing out.
2:22And one of them is how defenses are kind of fighting back here.
2:26Before this season, you and I talked about, hey, the air raid style is dead.
2:31We talked about these more condensed sets from offenses.
2:34And defenses are now not just containing those, but we've seen in the numbers early on, they're kind of punching back here, which is pretty fascinating to see.
2:43Yeah, it's all about meeting aggression with aggression, right?
2:46And I think one small sliver of that that I want to highlight.
2:50So we had talked briefly, honestly, probably should talk more about it.
2:54After the Australia game, right, the Niners really put it to the Rams.
2:58They were doing some fun stuff with Juszczyk on motions where they would basically motion him sort of kind of into being
3:05a fullback, but he's on the move as the ball's being snapped.
3:09And then he would just open back up and they would do these really fast inserts.
3:14And what that does is it really, it kind of ups the pace that a defense has to react to you.
3:21Not only are you creating a new gap on the fly, but you're doing so at warp speed, right?
3:27And so it's really hard for linebackers to react to that.
3:30It's really hard for defensive linemen to react to that.
3:33And we almost saw like an immediate adjustment in week two of like, oh, okay.
3:38If we're going to be getting these inserts on the fly, Mike McDonald did this also in the NFC West against the Cardinals this week.
3:46And we see a very similar thing, right? We're motioning somebody into the backfield.
3:51He's not violating the rules technically because he's not going forward, but he is carrying that momentum as an insert.
3:57And what do we see the Seahawks do? They're in what's called a tight front here.
4:02So we've got the 4-I, we've got the 0-nose, we've got the 4-I.
4:06You have a bubble here between the right tackle and the tight end.
4:10That's where the insert's going to try to go on the fly.
4:14They want to get up to Witherspoon quickly. So what the Seahawks do is, okay, we're going to slant this 4-I into that gap.
4:22This insert is going at full speed. So he can't adjust and run off the inside hip of the tackle, like what
4:29a normal fullback would do when starting from a static position because they have time to correct their angle.
4:35You have no time to correct your angle. So you're getting a two for one here.
4:40Witherspoon's blitzing. You get a run-through and pretty much a free tackle for loss.
4:45And so that's really the theme that we're seeing with some of these early down blitzes is, okay, if we're going to
4:52be getting these inserts fast, we're going to disrupt those by being aggressive as well.
4:57Because if we can't time it up, that means you can't time it up either.
5:01And now we just have a bunch of chaos at the line of scrimmage, which typically is going to be a win for the defense.
5:09And you talked about that chaos at the line of scrimmage.
5:13So here's some numbers that kind of back that up.
5:16When you look at the average width of a formation on offense in 2026, it's just 21.7 yards.
5:22Now that used to be back in 2016. This is just an example.
5:262016, it was 28.1 yards. That means, okay, where are the furthest or widest offensive player?
5:31So an entire seven plus yards inside where things sort of used to be, that shows that things aren't as spread out.
5:38They're getting more condensed. And the rise in 12 personnel, more heavy personnel, more tight ends on the field.
5:44That also echoes that. So what have defenses done early on this season to combat that?
5:49You talked about blitzing. We'll talk about run blitzing and pass blitzing a little bit more in a second.
5:55But even those insert blitz that you mentioned, those little cheat code things that the offense can feel like they could do,
6:02well, you get to neutralize that if you stack the line of scrimmage.
6:07Flores is the most famous example of this. But it's not just the Minnesota Vikings.
6:11Teams around the NFL are stacking the line of scrimmage, and they're sending their guys.
6:16When you look at the five-man front percentage this year, it is 34%.
6:20Last year, it was 30.1. 4% of a jump is a massive jump in that category.
6:25And it has never been above 31%. Really, 30.6% is the highest that it was in 2022 since 2018.
6:32This year, we are seeing more five-man fronts than we have seen over the last eight years.
6:37So whatever you're trying to run with heavy personnel, whether you're getting an extra offensive lineman on the field in the form
6:44of an extra tight end, whether you have these fullbacks or these insert blocks, whatever, the defense is already ready.
6:50They already have their game plan. So it's a new-look philosophy, I think, for defenses to, like you mentioned at the top
6:57of the show, match aggression and creativity with aggression.
7:00Well, maybe this isn't creativity. Maybe it's just out-aggressing the creativity.
7:04Honestly, what it feels like from defenses because the blitz rate is up, not just overall, but on early downs as well.
7:11When we think of blitzes, we're thinking of, oh, okay, you know, those obvious passing situations where they get a little bit
7:18more trigger-happy to send an extra guy. It's early down stuff, too.
7:22It's rumblesses. It's first and second down. So you're able to do that when you're crowding that line of scrimmage a little bit more.
7:29So coming off of the peak spread offense era, when you started to see teams trickle in, getting more and more condensed.
7:36We saw the Rams do this a little bit more.
7:40They went from this outside zone rushing scheme to, okay, now they're a power rushing team.
7:45We're seeing teams that are adding more tight ends on the field, not just wide receivers.
7:50So they were trying to combat the fact that defenses were spread out to match their spread, and they were trying to get ahead of the curve.
7:59Now defenses are basically saying, wait a second. If you're just going to go condensed, we're going to go condensed, and then we don't have to guess anymore.
8:08If you're, like, we just get to attack the line of scrimmage.
8:11There's no, ooh, we're going to try to deceive that this guy is going to blitz you or not.
8:17He's already there. There are players already on the line of scrimmage.
8:21So it's a long way of saying that the more condensed offenses have been going over the last couple of years to
8:28say, hmm, now we've got the advantage over all these spread defenses.
8:32This year, for the first time since certainly 2018, they are more willing to stack the line of scrimmage to match the
8:39condensed sets and actually have an advantage with how aggressive they can get with more blitzes.
8:44Yeah, Theo Ash made a great point this week.
8:47Friend of the show, Theo Ash. And he was talking about this Bears-Vikings matchup and how Ben Johnson, in terms of his
8:54success rate in the past game as a play caller, on plays with motion is way lower against Flores than anybody else.
9:01Because a lot of the times when you're using motion, right, it's a formation indicator, or rather a defensive structure indicator.
9:08Are we getting man? Are we getting zone? Vikings are in zone anyway.
9:12So you send a receiver across the formation. It's like, oh, it's zone.
9:16Congrats, buddy. You knew that. We were doing that anyway.
9:19You know what we're doing. There's no deception here.
9:22The deception is just which one of these eight guys in the line of scrimmage are we bringing.
9:28That's the part that you don't know and you can't know.
9:32Short of having the greatest hard count in football history, you're not going to know who's coming and who's not.
9:38And so I think when you're looking at the league-wide early down blitz rate trend, they're at 31.7%.
9:44That's early down blitzes, highest since at least 2018.
9:47And the fact that so many teams are just playing zone with those pressures and not really caring if you know that
9:54they're in zone, it's almost like simplicity through aggression, right?
9:57And it's you know what we're doing. We know that you know what we're doing.
10:02The question is, is your offensive line in sync enough to pick up whichever of these five or six guys that we're sending?
10:09Typically, the answer is going to be no, especially in September when nobody has reps.
10:14So again, offenses becoming more condensed. I think that they did that to believe that they were getting ahead of the cycle, right?
10:21Because football is a cyclical thing. But I actually believe that even though there was a short period of time, like a
10:28year, two years, whatever it was, where they did have sort of this advantage over the last couple of years, now the defenses are adjusting.
10:36Now that we are seeing five-man fronts at a higher rate than ever, and it's the only time that we've seen a
10:43higher six-man front rate is last year. So we know that that aggression is there from them as well.
10:49Well, you are allowing defenses to stack that line of scrimmage and just go after you all the time.
10:55And I just feel as though in this cycle of football of, okay, it was really spread out and now it's more condensed.
11:03I think defenses are going to have more of the advantage because of how much they can run these multi-man fronts that
11:10are beyond four players on the line of scrimmage.
11:13I like this kind of party. I like this kind of party, baby.
11:17All right. It's so funny because before everything was spread out, it was condensed and it was 12 personnel, right?
11:23Like you remember that 2010 tight end draft, like Cronk, Jimmy Graham.
11:27Oh, yeah. Everybody was running 12 personnel because the Patriots were really good at it and they were tearing people apart.
11:34Like that 2011 Patriots offense was one of the best in modern NFL history.
11:38And it was a bunch of tight ends and slot receivers.
11:42Woo-hoo-hoo! I just blocked him, baby! So you had a bunch of teams around the league that were taking tight ends early.
11:49Like Kobe Fleener made a lot of money in the draft because of that trend of everybody just wanting two tight ends that played specific roles.
11:57You had your Y tight end. You had your move tight end.
12:01Everybody wanted a Wes Welker. Eventually Julian Edelman. Like everybody was trying to match those archetypes.
12:06Real ball knowers remember the Kobe Fleener-Dwayne Allen 1-2 combination for the Indianapolis Colts.
12:11You just needed to shout that out because you shouted out Kobe Fleener.
12:15And real ball knowers know the intense debates between Kobe Fleener and Stephen Hill for which player to draft in the first round that year.
12:23That's deep. Deep pull. Deep pull. But you saw everybody try to mimic that.
12:27But if you don't have Rob Gronkowski or Jimmy Graham or Greg Olson, it's not going to work.
12:33Right? Like it takes a unicorn type of tight end to do that.
12:37And so eventually, a few years later, you know, after defenses were responding to that and also playing really condensed, right?
12:44That was the Legion of Boom cover three era, which ironically teams run more cover three now than even back then.
12:51They just do it a different way. That's a topic for another show.
12:55Boom! A few years later, after like the Marcus Mariota Oregon revolution happened, you have Mariota coming in.
13:01You have Jared Goff coming in. He ran the air raid in college.
13:05Eventually, you had, you know, Patrick Mahomes coming in who ran the air raid in college.
13:10All these air raid Lincoln Riley, Cliff Kingsbury quarterbacks that we talked about in the season preview.
13:15They all came to the league. Everything spread out.
13:18Defenses eventually found their answer. Now everything's condensing. It's a 15-year cycle of just going up and down and up and down.
13:25Tight ends, yes. Tight ends, no. Spread, yes. Spread, no.
13:28Like we're just doing the same thing again that we did in like 2012.
13:33And this is sort of how football has always been, right?
13:36From the beginning. It's about offensive and defensive coordinators trying to find the advantage.
13:41And so for as long as football has existed, it's always been a little bit more of something, right?
13:47Okay, like here's the cycle of football is more of a power game between the tackles.
13:52I'm not trying to say that it's not. It obviously all starts up front no matter what.
13:57But you get more emphasis on sort of what's happening around the trenches and everything.
14:02So everything's very condensed. It's this power profile and everything.
14:05And then offenses try to push the envelope a little bit further out, further out, further out.
14:11And obviously in the 20, what was it? 2017, 2018, 2019 kind of era where we just see offenses more spread out than ever.
14:19You're putting more wide receivers, more speed on the field.
14:22Now we're having this next evolution of what the cycle is.
14:25But it also sort of depends on the types of players that are existing.
14:30Because the types of players and athleticism and size and skill sets, those things have also evolved as the game cycles through.
14:37And I just kind of feel as though in today's football with defensive players built the way that they are with the skill sets that they have.
14:45Inviting them and in some ways allowing them to play those five man fronts at a higher rate than ever.
14:52I just don't know if even some of these innovative condensed sets are going to combat what defenses are going to be able to do.
15:00So look, it's only two weeks. We're only two weeks into the season.
15:04But I feel as though this trend could be one of the defining trends of the entire season.
15:10With how much defenses believe they can stack the line of scrimmage and just be aggressive given how condensed offenses want to be.
15:17We do want to talk about some of these marquee matchups that we have in week three.
15:23The first one that I want to talk about is Rams and Broncos.
15:27And there's a lot of interest in this one.
15:30But it's a good first game to preview because it also ties in a little bit to what we were just talking about.
15:37Pairing, certain coverages with how aggressive you want to be.
15:40So look, both of these teams have the ability to suffocate you on defense but in a little bit of different ways.
15:47Brett, when you think about this game, where do you want to start sort of with our preview here?
15:53Both teams played a lot more man coverage in week two.
15:57Especially the Rams, right? They were a 44.1% man rate in week two.
16:01They were 16.7% in week one. We criticized them for bringing in two corners that can play man and not playing man.
16:08And obviously they weren't listening to us. But I think they saw the same thing we did.
16:13No, they subscribed to the show. Yeah, I've looked over.
16:17Definitely. Chris Shula, he has subscribed. He has smashed those notification buttons.
16:20No, I don't know if that's true or not.
16:23No, please nobody write that. But they did front a lot more man in week two.
16:28And it worked, by the way. Like, they were excellent.
16:32And while it is unfortunate, well, not beyond unfortunate, it's awful that Jackson Dart got hurt in the last game.
16:38This defense was playing so well on the back end.
16:41I still think it would have been tough for Giants receivers to get open, quite frankly.
16:46And also just the way that they paired that man coverage with pressure.
16:5166.7% of all their man coverage reps in this game.
16:54About two-thirds of it was paired with five-plus pass rushers going to the quarterback.
16:58Aggression and aggression. That's exactly what that is. You're playing tight coverage and you're hoping that you get home because you're just firing guys to the line scrimmage.
17:07And when you have Aaron Donald and Byron Young and Kobe Turner, like, yeah, you're going to get home because everybody has a one-on-one.
17:15And the windows are tight because you got McDuffie back there, Quentin Lake back there.
17:20This was the game plan that I feel like the Rams remembered.
17:23They have a lot of talent, so they should just let their talent be good.
17:28And they didn't do that in week one. It was a lot of zone, a lot of four-man rushes.
17:34It kind of felt like, oh, we have Myles Garrett, we'll win with four.
17:39It's like, well, Myles' knee isn't right, so you kind of can't get away with that.
17:44And they didn't have Aaron Donald on the field yet, obviously.
17:47And so they played very passively in week one.
17:50And meanwhile, the Niners were playing super aggressive on offense.
17:54And that aggression steamrolled them. They really course-corrected quickly of, okay, we're just going to be as aggressive as possible because we have guys and you don't.
18:02And we're the Rams and you're not. And it worked.
18:05They don't need to be worried about me. They don't need to worry about me at all.
18:11And it's interesting going up against Knicks specifically because in 2025, Knicks had a 0.17 EPA per dropback against man coverage.
18:18That was the seventh most amongst qualifying quarterbacks. So he was a top 10 quarterback in the NFL.
18:23But when you look at the last two weeks, now, one year of a sample size is a, I would say, a
18:30much more stable sample size than two weeks. But it's worth monitoring through two weeks this season, negative 0.68 EPA per dropback
18:37for Knicks, which is the second fewest in the NFL.
18:41I believe Aaron Rodgers is the only quarterback who has a lower EPA per dropback.
18:45By the way, if you're in Aaron Rodgers territory, that's not good this year.
18:50Not, and you know what? Normally, that would be quite the compliment to be in Aaron Rodgers' area.
18:56But over the last couple of seasons, not quite the case, especially to start 2026.
19:00So I wonder what's going to mean more here.
19:03Is it going to be the Rams and how talented they are with how they run man coverage?
19:09Is it going to be how well Knicks played against man coverage in 2025?
19:14Or is it going to be a little bit more of, hey, it seems to be something that he is struggling with this year.
19:21And does it have to do with the fact that it is man coverage paired with pressure?
19:27The Broncos have already sort of tried to mitigate for that pressure.
19:30A lot of guys around the line of scrimmage, a lot of cats around the line of scrimmage, because the design rollout
19:38rate for Bo Nix went from 6% in week one to 19.4% in week two.
19:42That was the third highest among starters last week.
19:45And overall this season, Nix has a 0.74 EPA per dropback, which is the second most this season, on those design rollouts.
19:52So that's one way to sort of counter. Hey, we've got a lot of chaos.
19:57It's crowding the line of scrimmage. But I'm just very curious to see how this plays out.
20:02Because a lot of times it's like, all right, week one, all sorts of stuff is going on.
20:08Week two, sometimes it's continuing what we saw in week one.
20:12Sometimes it's totally different. Week three, we start to get into, okay, are these struggles real?
20:17Is this success real? Do we really start to see things moving forward?
20:21So how often are the Rams going to continue to play man coverage?
20:25Is Nix going to be good against it? And how much are they going to try to get him away from the
20:32pocket as maybe a way to mitigate a lot of that chaos and clutter that might be up at the line of scrimmage?
20:40Yeah, if you don't think you can keep him clean in the pocket, move the pocket.
20:45Like that's... Right, exactly. Exactly. Football 101, right? Exactly.
20:48So I am fascinated to see if they dial that up even more this week.
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23:27And if they really kind of go back to the Broncos' roots of wide zone, wide zone, wide zone, boot, wide zone, wide zone, wide zone, boot.
23:36Like, let's see if it works, right? Especially if you're getting that much man coverage.
23:40Well, those crossing routes off boot tend to do well against man coverage.
23:44Especially when you have Jalen Waddell or Cortland Sutton.
23:47I think that could be a worthy game plan for them.
23:51I kind of want to flip it over to the other side of things.
23:55You know, got a marquee matchup. Devontae coming off a remarkable game.
23:59Yes. Especially for a receiver his age. Like, one of the best.
24:03Vintage. Vintage Devontae Adams games. That was 2019-2020 Devontae right there.
24:07Honestly, he doesn't look like he's slowed down. Not that he was ever, like, a true speedster back then anyway, but it
24:14feels like he just, he hasn't lost what steps he did have even back then.
24:18His skill set just ages so gracefully in the sense that he's a great technician.
24:23Catches everything. And when you have, you know, the Giants blowing cover three, you can score off that as well.
24:30Or when you have safety stepping in the bucket and you give him a little nod and go.
24:35Like, he can still get it done. Hard part is going up against Pat Sertan, who he has faced a lot throughout
24:42his career, having spent time in the AFC West.
24:45Sertan has the third most matchups against him. And in particular, during their career matchups, he's matched up with Devontae Adams on 70 of 132 routes.
24:54That is 53%. So, they will give him shadow duty against Devontae.
24:57Because as much as we like Riley Moss, if you're paying Pat Sertan that much money, you're going to put him on Devontae Adams.
25:05We're going to get our money's worth on that.
25:08I don't think that doesn't happen around the league as much as people think that it does.
25:13Like, true shadow. Like, the old Darrell Revis style of, we're going to build our defense around one guy taking away one guy.
25:21It just doesn't happen very much in the league anymore.
25:24So, for Sertan to have that sort of a rate, man, that just shows you the faith and trust that they have in his talent.
25:32That's really impressive. And, you know, they still target him.
25:35At least the Raiders still targeted Devontae a lot against Sertan.
25:39He had 22 targets against Sertan on those routes.
25:42Nobody else in the league has more than 12 career targets against Sertan.
25:46He has 13 receptions versus Sertan. DK is the only other one with more than 6.
25:51He has 9. Adams has gained 172 yards against Sertan.
25:54DJ Moore is the only other one with more than 100 over the life of his career, right?
26:00And he is the only player in the entire NFL to score twice on Patrick Sertan.
26:05Nobody else has done it more than once. So, not that he's like the Sertan kryptonite, because even those numbers aren't gaudy across four games.
26:13But he's the one that gets, like, success at all, which I would say is something to watch in this game.
26:20So, what you're saying here, Brett, is may the most aggressive team win.
26:24Essentially, yeah. Brings it in over the shoulder! For our next game, let's talk about Ravens and Cowboys.
26:30Two teams that are one-on-one. Two teams that have championship game aspirations in both of their conferences.
26:35Brett, where do you want to start with this one?
26:38Because the Ravens looked unstoppable in Week 1, let down in Week 2.
26:42The Cowboys had a letdown in Week 1, looked unstoppable in Week 2, especially with how they ended the game there.
26:49And Dak Prescott will have thrown more touchdown passes than any Cowboys quarterback in a career ever!
26:55Where do you want to start with this preview?
26:57I kind of want to start with, you know, the Zay Flowers of it all.
27:02This team with and without Zay Flowers, again, two-week sample size, I understand.
27:06We're not going to get too crazy with it.
27:09But just watching the game, like, even setting the data aside, which we do have the data, just watching the game, it's a different offense without Zay Flowers.
27:18Dude, I'm with you 100%. When you look at the, again, small sample size, it's one week and one week.
27:25But when you look at the on-off splits with Zay Flowers when he was out there in Week 1 versus when he
27:32was not in Week 2, even when he was not out there in Week 1, the yards per attempt average is overall for the offense.
27:40It goes from 18.0 to 8.2. Insane. The success rate drops from 63.6 to 55.2.
27:44But then this is, to me, the most important one.
27:48The explosive play rate overall on the offense, it went from 54.5% in Week 1 to 17.2% in Week 2.
27:54Again, small sample sizes. But to me, the big issue here and the thing worth talking about is not necessarily, oh, Zay Flowers is a good player.
28:03Who knew? We knew that already. The issue is the Ravens' depth chart with and without him.
28:08Because when you look at their receivers, they have Rashad Bateman.
28:12They have Elijah Surratt. They did have Jacoby Lane before his injury.
28:15They elevated veteran Chris Moore. Okay, they've got Devontez Walker.
28:19Who's the Zay Flowers replacement? They don't have one.
28:22There's not. They have LeJonte Wester, who can sort of give you that same skill set.
28:27But that's what I'm saying. There's nobody to get those targets.
28:30So, for some great receivers that may get hurt for a short period of time or go out of the game or
28:37whatever, you have somebody else who at least gives you that prototype of wide receiver that you can put in the game
28:44and say, we can still run our offense. Now, is it going to be as good as when we had our top guy in there?
28:52No. But we can still fundamentally run what we want to run schematically and from an emphasis of how we want to put pressure on the defense.
29:01Without Zay Flowers, the entire passing attack changes. They got Mark Andrews a lot more involved.
29:06Obviously, they're leaning more heavily into Rashad Bateman, but we knew that that was going to happen.
29:11But then it's like, okay, who's next? And even fundamentally getting Mark Andrews more involved with him a little bit long in
29:18the tooth here as a veteran tight end, I mean, he's not the same Mark Andrews that he was a couple of years ago.
29:26So, the pivot to a totally different offense that is not only less explosive because you don't have as talented of a
29:33player out there, but also because you don't have that replacement skill set, that worries me about the Baltimore Ravens.
29:40Now, as of us doing this show, it looks like that Zay Flowers is going to be back out there.
29:46But this is something to monitor as things go on here in a long NFL season is, are the Ravens, are they
29:53just completely derailed on offense, even with Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry, if they don't have Zay Flowers out there?
29:59It's worth sort of monitoring, I think, as this year goes on.
30:03The splits that you're talking about, I think, just kind of highlight how much of a knife's edge a lot of these
30:10teams are on because not a whole lot of teams have two Zay Flowers, let alone one Zay Flowers.
30:16But, you know, one of the teams that you could argue has two receivers that might be even better than Zay are the Cowboys.
30:24And so, they're one of the few teams that I think could withstand that kind of injury.
30:29The Ravens are part of the vast majority of the league where, you know, you lose your number one receiver and your offense looks very different.
30:38The Cowboys, they have two number one receivers. So, they're a little bit more insulated than 95% of the rest of the league.
30:45And that's probably a good transition to talk about this Cowboys offense because, goodness gracious.
30:50Yeah! Here we go! Yeah! They've had 15 drives so far this season.
30:54Keep in mind, the Raiders had 13 drives just last week alone.
30:58Cowboys have had 15 the entire year. They've scored on 10 of them.
31:02They punted once the entire game. Like, they had eight possessions last week.
31:06They had 37 points. This offense is bananas. And it's largely because you can have a George Pickens game.
31:12You can have a CeeDee Lamb game. No matter what, as long as you're having a Dak game, you're good.
31:19Because you have two top 15 receivers in the league that can go off at any point.
31:24And Dak is just playing out of his mind.
31:27Like, this is a... This is kind of a normal Dak season now.
31:31Which sounds like faint praise. It's not. I'm saying that Dak...
31:35This is just what he is. When he is at his best, he is damn near unstoppable.
31:40Some of the throws that he made in the fourth quarter last week were unbelievable.
31:45Like, far hash hole shots to CeeDee Lamb. And CeeDee went nuclear.
31:49Which I know some people were concerned of like, okay, is George taking over the number one because of the season he had last year?
31:57Nope. They just have two number ones. If you're looking at Dak and CeeDee into the boundary last week, eight of nine for a buck 53.
32:05Fourth most in a game this season. And two touchdowns.
32:08If you're looking at Dak total on vertical routes in week two.
32:12Four or five for 107. Two touchdowns. Three total TDs this season on vertical routes.
32:17Fifth most in the league. Five throws getting over 100 yards.
32:20It's just unfathomable numbers. This offense is so deadly when they're going vertical.
32:25Because when you have a quarterback like that, and when you have receivers like that, even when the defense is playing shaky,
32:32the fact that you can still put up 37 points in eight drives, nobody else can do that.
32:37I mean, literally. Right. Nobody else can do that.
32:40So, okay, if you want to play the low possession count game, that's fine.
32:45We'll beat you doing that because we're going to score more than you.
32:49All day, brother. All day. Lovely. Got your back.
32:52You already know it. I'm very curious to see how the Ravens continue to use Kyle Hamilton because we've got some numbers
32:59from NGS here of how Kyle Hamilton has been used so far this season.
33:03They're all-star, do-it-all defensive chess piece. 4.0 yards deep from the line of scrimmage.
33:08That's the fewest in his career, which means he's been lining up more at the second level than he has even in the slot or deep at safety.
33:17He just has 11 snaps of safety this year, which is 9.5%.
33:21That's the lowest in his career. He's got 20.7% of his snaps at the line of scrimmage, highest in his career.
33:2736.2 snaps at linebacker, again, highest in his career.
33:30And then overall, 56.9% of his snaps in the box, once again, highest rate of his career.
33:36So, it kind of goes back to how we introed the show.
33:39Are teams just really trying to crowd that line of scrimmage with chaos?
33:44Now, there's some logic to why, even outside of that trend, Kyle Hamilton might be putting that spot.
33:49This team signed Jalen Hawkins. They drafted Malachi Starks.
33:52They may think, oh, we're good at safety. Let's use Kyle Hamilton elsewhere.
33:56But I think that it leans into being more aggressive at the line of scrimmage.
34:01And having that sort of agent of chaos in Kyle Hamilton closer to the box, closer to the line of scrimmage.
34:08You never know. Is he blitzing? Is he in man coverage?
34:11Is he dropping? What's he doing? I think that five-man front philosophy, that crowd the line of scrimmage philosophy, only gets more
34:19and more daunting for quarterbacks when you have a player like Kyle Hamilton who is sitting right there.
34:24So, that chess match between Dak and Kyle Hamilton this week, I'm very much looking forward to see how that plays out.
34:31Let's talk about the Raiders and Saints. To give some love to the Raiders and the Saints here.
34:37Saints we've talked about quite a bit. Towshuk's been fantastic so far this season, especially under pressure and especially in the vertical passing game.
34:45But the Raiders, also 2-0. And I feel like we haven't talked about the Raiders as much as maybe we should.
34:51The comment section reminded us of that last week.
34:54They do. Hey, look, Raiders fans haven't been 2-0 in a long time and they want somebody to talk about their team.
35:01So, Brett, how do you feel about this one?
35:04Where do you want to start with this game?
35:07So, one of the only good things the Raiders had going for them last year was they had a very good run defense.
35:15It didn't look that way because of volume stats, but if you're looking at carry-to-carry, you know, efficiency-wise from carry-to-carry, they were really good, right?
35:22They're yards before contact allowed per attempt last year.
35:25It's a mouthful. 0.9 yards. So, basically, running backs were getting less than a yard before getting hit against them last year on every single carry.
35:34That was the best in the NFL. It's just when teams are running it against them, I don't know, 35 times a
35:41game because they're in the lead, yeah, the volume stats are going to add up.
35:46This year, it's still 0.9 yards before contact per attempt.
35:49They have a 34% success rate allowed against the run this year.
35:53That's 6th best. They are negative 19.5 EPA allowed on the ground and negative 0.39 EPA per carry allowed this season, both
36:00best in the NFL among all run defenses. So, this team can really stop the run.
36:05I know Omarion had good volume stats last week, but if you're looking at total touches Omarion Hampton had, that kind of
36:12explains why he had the numbers he did. They were feeding him and feeding him and feeding him and added up over
36:19time, but this team makes run games inefficient. And, you know, when you have, you know, the Saints already taking on injuries
36:26in their offensive line going against a very good Raiders run defense, I worry about their ability to stay ahead of the
36:33sticks and at least make third downs manageable. And then you get into third and long and you got Max Crosby against a backup left tackle.
36:41Things could go sideways pretty quick here. And it's so night and day from what it was last year.
36:47Specifically, the fact that I'm just watching this defense and do the Raiders have the most talented defense in the NFL?
36:54No, I don't think that anybody's, we're going to sit here and say that the Raiders have, you know, the best defense
37:01in the NFL or even a top five defense.
37:04But are they a lot better than what they were last year?
37:08Yes. And that is while getting a lot of really important snaps from rookies, from young guys.
37:13And yet Rob Leonard, their defense coordinator, and probably just honestly top down, John Spitek, their general manager, Clint Kubiak, their new head coach.
37:21Like there's so much confidence in all of these guys that are playing.
37:25And you see that on defense. Trayden Stooks was a standout at safety for them in week one.
37:31But Hezekiah Massis, my guy, somebody who I had as a top 100 player on my big board.
37:37I thought there was no way he should have lasted until the fifth round.
37:41He is such a great early success story for the Raiders because this is what happens when you have a cohesive vision
37:48between your front office and who is doing the scouting and drafting of these players and what the defense wants.
37:54Hezekiah Massis, cornerback out of Cal. What was he best at when he was at Cal?
38:00Off coverage rolls. Cover three step. Quarters. When he could sit off the line of scrimmage and really read quarterbacks and just bait those throws.
38:08Sit and manage space very, very well. That's when he was at his biggest impact in college.
38:13The Raiders run zone second most in the NFL this year.
38:17And when I watch Hezekiah Massis who had one of the best games of any defensive player last week.
38:23Or I should say one of the most impactful games.
38:26Because you go back and you watch some of the snaps and there's still a lot of rookie plays that are out
38:33there where, okay, he needs to handle this a little bit better.
38:37He needs to be a little bit stronger in run defense when he's taking on a block.
38:42But you see him fire downfield in run defense.
38:45And even though he got got on some run defense plays, he also had some serious run stops.
38:51And Brett, I'll take you back to my scouting report that I had for him pre-draft.
38:56One of the things that I noted is has to play stronger and with more fire in run defense.
39:02He had a missed tackle rate above 25 in each of the last two seasons that he played college ball.
39:08But this year, even though, again, it's not perfect, the confidence he has.
39:13Yeah, he's about it. Dude, and the same thing with Trayden Stooks the week before.
39:17So you're playing this Raiders. Again, is it the best defense in the NFL?
39:22No, but they're playing with so much confidence. That's when you get the results here.
39:27You are identifying player strengths. You are identifying their weaknesses.
39:30You are putting them in a position to succeed with those strengths more often.
39:34And then when it comes to those weakness points, you're making sure that they're playing with as much confidence as possible.
39:41That's what Hezekiah Massis was this past week. And it's an encapsulation, in my opinion, early on of how different this Raiders
39:48organization feels this year versus last year, the confidence that those young guys are playing with.
39:53How do you change the place? You do something they say you can't.
39:57You guys did something they said you can't. Seven point dogs.
40:01Oh, yeah. Great job, man. So seeing all that, there is a non-zero chance that one of these young Raiders DBs gets
40:08their hands on the ball in this game. And that did happen to Tyler Shuck in week one.
40:14He threw two picks in the first half against Detroit.
40:17And they were both against zone coverage, by the way.
40:20And they were both against zone coverage. Yes, they were.
40:23Yes. That has been something that we've talked about with him, even though he was better against zone last week.
40:30It is something we're going to have to keep an eye on.
40:33But, you know, Dimitri, who's on the team with us here at NFL Pro, he happened to be a former teammate of Tyler Shuck at Texas Tech.
40:42And we were talking through it with the meeting about how well Shuck was able to bounce back from those picks, how
40:49well he's played in these second halves of games so far.
40:53And even, you know, late last season, like he faced some early adversity, got really hot late in the year.
40:59He's tried to, you know, carry that over this season.
41:02Something Dimitri brought up is just how resilient he is, right?
41:06And how even when he fails, he's so good at kind of just flushing it, moving on to the next play.
41:12And he has supreme confidence and he has belief in himself.
41:16And that really is a necessary skill set to have as a quarterback because there are some guys, you know, they throw two picks in the first half.
41:25You're down 21-0. You just go completely in the tank.
41:28And you can see it just based on body language.
41:31Like, wow, we didn't win this game. We'll move on to next week.
41:35Whereas, you know, Tyler Shuck is like, 21 points in the second half?
41:40Yeah, I can close that gap. And he did.
41:43No, we're good. Right? And, you know, Dimitri compared it to Josh Allen, which I found interesting because Shuck got fired up
41:50last week by an opposing coach referring to him as a poor man's Josh Allen.
41:54He reminds me a little bit like a poor man's Josh Allen.
41:58Has all the arm talent in the world. Can run, right?
42:02I don't think he gets enough credit for how good an athlete he is.
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44:41And then the entire week, everybody in the Saints building was just calling him poor man over and over and over again
44:48and just really getting under his skin. You don't say the Josh Allen part.
44:53Because honestly, I thought that that quote was hilarious.
44:55Because if you're called a poor man's Josh Allen in your second year in the NFL, that's a genuine compliment.
45:02That is a genuine compliment. But by just calling him poor man all week and leaving out the Josh Allen part, that's
45:09when he's just, you know, he's the LeBron Miami Heat meme where he's like, all right, okay, all right.
45:15Can I get like an upper middle class Josh Allen?
45:18But he played really, really well. You know, I think part of it is mentality.
45:23Maybe I'll use Eli, Eli Manning as like a better example.
45:26Like anytime Eli made a mistake, I don't want to say he didn't care, but he didn't let it affect him.
45:33He was always just coming out firing and having belief, okay, I can make this tight window throw.
45:39I'm not going to second guess myself. Because the second you stop shooting is the second you stop scoring.
45:45And then the defense wins. And I just really respect the hell out of Tyler Shuck for having that mentality and not
45:52letting those early picks get to him. It's very possible the Raiders get him once, maybe even twice in this game.
45:59But I still think as long as he's there and as long as he has all those vertical threats, the Saints are never entirely out of a game.
46:08We've already seen that this season, that that's not the case.
46:11I mean, we saw it on the road in Baltimore on week two.
46:15What that does for morale and confidence to know that you are never out of it.
46:21Because sure, like a quarterback's mentality is really, really, really important.
46:24But let's face it, like everybody has to believe that you're going to come back.
46:29Everybody on offense, everybody on defense, all of that, man.
46:32And I just, I feel as though when the quarterback will show you what he's capable of, it just permeates with confidence
46:39throughout the entire rest of the roster. When you look at Shuck in the first half and then the second half slash
46:46overtime, we'll throw overtime in there as well. Over the last two weeks, first half, 0.29 EPA per dropback, which is the sixth fewest in the NFL.
46:55But in the second half and overtime, plus 0.26 EPA per dropback, which is the tenth most.
47:00So when this man's back is against the wall, when they need Captain Clutch, when they need somebody to lead them on
47:07a comeback here, he is a top 10 quarterback in the NFL through two weeks into the season.
47:13So to me, just it's such a difference maker.
47:16Again, when you have a player that can instill this kind of confidence and you've seen it a couple of times from
47:23him already in his career, that never say die mentality and how that goes to the rest of the team, extremely powerful
47:30stuff when you talk about a long NFL season against some really, really good teams that you're going to face.
47:36Now, Saints and Raiders fans both wanted us to talk about them.
47:40Be careful what you wish for. Anytime I start praising a team, they start doing poorly.
47:45So if they lose this week, it's on you.
47:48The Coleman curse. But hold on, hold on though.
47:51You talked about both teams. So if they tie this week, we have to intro next week's show with the Coleman curse
47:58being just an insane force of universal properties here if they tie in this game.
48:03We could do a super cut over the last five years of every time I praise a team and they immediately lose.
48:10So you ask for it, guys. The last thing that we want to talk about here on this episode of NFL Pro is the importance of backup quarterbacks.
48:19We're talking about a lot of trends that we're seeing early on in the season.
48:24But Brett, I feel like you pointed this out or somebody on the NGS team pointed this out.
48:29How much teams have relied on backup quarterbacks already?
48:32And through two weeks of the season, we've already seen 41 quarterbacks play in the regular season.
48:38Just for those keeping score at home, there's only 32 NFL teams.
48:42And we've already had 41 quarterbacks play through two weeks of the regular season.
48:46It reminds me a little bit like a poor man's Josh Allen.
48:50Which I think lends itself to a bigger conversation.
48:53I'm not just like, oh man, a lot is sort of up in the air when these quarterbacks go out.
48:59But the importance of backup quarterbacks, and I think that we're seeing that early on in this season.
49:05And especially backup quarterbacks that don't make you change your offense.
49:08Are they still capable of running the same plays that are your bread and butter?
49:13Look at Drew Locke. Drew Locke can make the throws that Sam Darnold can make.
49:18Now, I think Sam Darnold will make them with more regularity.
49:22But Drew's out there spinning it. Like, Locke-tober came early this year, I would say.
49:26He's been great. Because you don't have to shrink the playbook.
49:30Going from Caleb Williams to, if he doesn't play this week, to potentially Case Keenum, that's a different playbook.
49:36Right? It's a different conference. Even going from Caleb to Bajit.
49:39You call it different stuff. Going from Darnold to Locke, it preserves what your offensive identity is.
49:45Going from Kyler to Wentz, I don't necessarily think that shrinks the playbook.
49:49Now, will Kyler execute it with more regularity? Maybe.
49:52But at least you're fundamentally still preserving the offense.
49:55The Jackson dart to Jameis drop-off, I think the playbook does change a little bit, especially with how mobile dart is.
50:02Because, you know, I think going from Jaden to Marcus Mariota, roughly the same, but Jaden's obviously more dynamic.
50:08Yeah, but to your point, it's the same skill set that's there.
50:11Yeah, you're just not going to intentionally run Mariota at this age.
50:15Right. Which, by the way, 10 years later, Jameis and Marcus starting games?
50:19Let's go. We got there somehow. Longevity, folks! The Bucs and the Titans, they knew all along that these guys are going to be in the league.
50:28No, but I think that you bring up a good point.
50:32And there was actually a transaction earlier this week that happened with Will Levis signing on the Jets practice squad that I
50:39think he's a perfect example of sometimes people go, well, hold on, how does somebody with all the tools in the world
50:46like Will Levis, like how is he not picked up immediately just as a flyer quarterback?
50:51And I think the reason why is because the most important part about having a backup quarterback is having somebody that you trust.
50:58Or at least, that's how I would fundamentally view it.
51:01In a perfect world, I'd love to have three spots for quarterbacks.
51:05One is your starting quarterback. Two is a backup that you know can give you the chance to win football games, the
51:12chance to win football games for a two to four week span.
51:16Right? Like a short term, like reliever type of quarterback.
51:19If your quarterback has, your starting quarterback has a high ankle sprain or something like that.
51:24And then ideally, like you'd love to have a younger, higher ceiling type of quarterback that you have sort of your QB
51:31three, you know, whether it's on the practice squad or you've actually got it on the 53 man roster.
51:38But that middle player, that short term reliever is so, so important.
51:41And I think that that player often gets overlooked by some fans who just want sort of the flashy, high ceiling, younger quarterback.
51:49You need that guy. You need dependability to be able to come in and sort of steady the ship for you for
51:56a week or two or maybe even a month while your starting quarterback is down.
52:01So when I go to that wedding Halloween week in Vermont, who's my backup that you're going to bring in that you can execute the same show?
52:09Remember, Connor's watching. Brother. No pressure. In the very first show that we did, you brought up people.
52:15What position was it? Somebody's getting Timothy Mozgov money.
52:18Who else is doing that? I don't know. Who's the replacement there?
52:22I don't know. At that point, I'm just getting a young hot shot to come in and I'm just throwing it deep.
52:29That's what I don't think. I don't think I can find anybody that's going to be able to give me that sort of comp.
52:36So you'd have to give me a while. Can we get Danny Kelly on loaner for a week?
52:42Just with the creative comps? Yes. Yes. Thank you for listening to our week three preview podcast.
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