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2026 NFL Preseason and Fantasy Review: Going Deep with Brandon Angelo and Matt Waldman
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Brandon LloydBrian RobinsonCaleb DouglasChristian KirkChristian WatsonCyrus AllenDavid MontgomeryErick AllGeorge KittleGreg DulcichJalen TolbertJauan JenningsJordyn TysonJuwan Johnson
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Brandon Lloyd
NegativeInjury58:39
Brandon Lloyd is cited as a historical benchmark for players who struggled with persistent, recurring lower-body injury issues, specifically described as having a 'wobbly wheel'.
Insight pageBrian Robinson
PositiveRole48:02
Brian Robinson Jr. appears locked into the RB1 role for the Commanders for the upcoming season.
Insight pageCaleb Douglas
NegativeRole1:46
Caleb Douglas is in a difficult rebuilding situation with the Miami Dolphins, but he has earned a starting role on the outside ahead of veterans like Tutu Atwell and Jaylen Tolbert. While he has a major opportunity to secure a long-term role, his fantasy impact may be limited by an offense that prioritizes a 'two reads and run' approach for Malik Willis, potentially leaving Douglas as a field-stretcher rather than a high-volume target.
Insight pageChristian Kirk
NegativeInjury6:42
Christian Kirk's status is uncertain due to a hamstring injury suffered in camp, with questions remaining about whether he has even returned to practice.
Insight pageChristian Watson
NegativeInjury43:00
Christian Watson sought specialized injury and performance training in the Midwest to address his health concerns, though the long-term effectiveness of these interventions remains to be proven under game-speed contact.
Insight pageCyrus Allen
PositiveBreakout0:59
Cyrus Allen is in a middle-tier offensive environment in Kansas City, but the addition of receivers coach Chad O'Shea is expected to significantly improve the development and usage of the personnel group. Brandon Angelo observes that Allen has shown significant improvement at the catch point compared to his time at Cincinnati, displaying better separation and route creativity in camp.
Insight pageDavid Montgomery
PositiveProjection53:25
David Montgomery is projected to have a massive year in the Lions' offense, which is expected to focus on ball control and feature an improved offensive line.
Insight pageErick All
PositiveSleeper43:28
Eric All is a recommended dynasty stash and waiver wire target due to his talent and the high-scoring Bengals offensive system. While he is at best the third or fourth option in the passing game, he is considered as talented as Brenton Strange and offers lottery-ticket upside for deep rosters.
Insight pageGeorge Kittle
NegativeInjury5:31
George Kittle is dealing with the lingering effects of an Achilles injury and is expected to be less than 100% early in the season, creating uncertainty about his Week 1 availability and overall effectiveness. He is in the twilight of his career, and his injury status necessitates the team relying on other players to fill the gap in the run game and provide post-catch production.
Insight pageGreg Dulcich
PositiveUsage23:06
Greg Dulcich is identified as a key beneficiary in the passing game, specifically working up the seam and serving as a primary target alongside Malik Washington.
Insight pageJalen Tolbert
NegativeDepth Chart19:09
Jaylen Tolbert has been surpassed on the depth chart by rookie Caleb Douglas, indicating a diminished role in the current offensive rotation.
Insight pageJauan Jennings
NegativeDepth Chart5:47
Jauan Jennings has departed the 49ers for Minnesota. His absence is significant because he previously led the team's receiving room with 643 yards and provided essential blocking for the run game. Matt Waldman highlights that Jennings' career year serves as evidence that injuries in the San Francisco offense can create significant fantasy production for depth receivers.
Insight pageJordyn Tyson
NegativeInjury39:44
Jordan Tyson is a high-risk asset due to recurring, multi-year hamstring issues and erratic movement mechanics that lack a uniform process, causing excessive physical stress. Brandon Angelo notes that his injury was likely unavoidable given his surgical history, but the team's 'unmitigated volume' in practice and failure to track neurologic fatigue exacerbate his condition. A 'redshirt' year is recommended to investigate root causes like asymmetrical force production and muscle imbalances rather than rushing him back.
Insight pageJuwan Johnson
PositiveValue45:32
Matt Waldman advises fantasy managers to keep moving Juwan Johnson up their draft boards. He is considered an underrated tight end who is expected to serve as the number two option in the passing game, maintaining a similar role to his previous season.
Insight pageMalik Washington
PositiveUsage9:43
Malik Washington is expected to be a primary target earner in the offense, primarily operating out of the slot and moving around to the Z position, making him a high-volume option in the passing game.
Insight pageMarShawn Lloyd
NegativeInjury37:05
MarShawn Lloyd has sought specialized treatment at the Edwards Institute to address his injury history, but his durability remains a significant test for the upcoming season. Beyond health, he must demonstrate improvement in his on-field decision-making, specifically by stopping the tendency to bounce runs outside and reducing his fumbling issues.
Insight pageMike Evans
NegativeInjury5:57
Mike Evans is flagged as a reliability concern due to his injury history, having been hurt twice during training camp after missing significant time last season. He is described as being in the twilight of his career, with concerns that he no longer performs at the elite post-catch level required for the offense to function effectively.
Insight pageRashee Rice
NegativeInjury7:40
Brandon Angelo expresses concern regarding Rashee Rice's recovery from a second knee surgery in two years, noting that he does not look like himself in one-on-one drills and lacks his usual abruptness and stop-start ability.
Insight pageTank Dell
PositiveBust49:56
There is significant skepticism regarding Tank Dell's outlook due to injury concerns. While his return to the field is remarkable, he is not expected to play often or command a 20% target share this season.
Insight pageTutu Atwell
NegativeDepth Chart19:09
Tutu Atwell has been surpassed on the depth chart by rookie Caleb Douglas, signaling a reduced role for the veteran receiver.
Insight pageWill Fuller
NegativeInjury55:44
Will Fuller is cited as the benchmark for extreme, high-level reinjury risk, representing a pattern of recurring health issues that threaten long-term availability.
Insight pageXavier Worthy
PositiveUsage5:41
Brandon Angelo highlights Xavier Worthy as the team's best downfield threat who is expected to command targets. He is recommended as a player to target in redraft leagues in the 9th or 10th round.
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Episode Transcript
0:00All right, we're going deep with Brandon Angelo. I'm Matt Waldman. It's always a pleasure to have you guys join us every
0:06couple of weeks. We're going to talk about some of the preseason um you know, games in terms of what we saw and how
0:14that may reframe some expectations for us. Um, some of the players that we're going to mention, we've got a few, you
0:22know, we've got we've got a Jaylen, a Jordan, a Drake, a you know, a Robert, a Don, you know, a Corey or a K, you know,
0:32we've got a we've got a number of guys, a Caleb. So, let's get started with this. Let's look at some expectations
0:38for some rookies who've, you know, really, you know, made an impression on media in camp. Um, and
0:48maybe even in the since mini camp, the the drum beats players, you know, the Sean the the Zan Stribbling is one um
0:59the Allen kid from um >> Cincy >> from Cincinnati. Yeah.
1:04>> Yeah. Cincy now in KC. Yeah.
1:06>> Yep. And then Caleb Douglas in Miami. So what do we think about this? Are these guys that you're saying, "Okay, let's
1:15start with reddraft and then go to Dynasty."
1:17>> Okay.
1:18>> Yeah. So for reddraft, >> is there are any of these three players to you guys that you would pick in um in
1:28a 20 round draft?
1:30>> Yeah, that's a that's a great way to frame the first question. Yeah, I would say stribbling for sure.
1:35>> Yeah.
1:35>> And I think when you look at offensive environment for all three of them, they're kind of in three different tiers. It's, you know, your Ners are
1:45your tier one offensive system.
1:47Obviously, you know, Shannon's done a phenomenal job there. They have good playmakers, a really good quarterback, a good line,
1:58good infrastructure all around. That's a great environment, right? Then you have obviously kind of in the middle with your Cyrus Allen. Obviously with Matt
2:06Naggie kind of being more of a part of that offense in the last couple years, they've taken a step back. We don't have
2:12to get into that, but that was pretty obvious. Um, so that's interesting. But also the addition of Chad O'Shea as the
2:19receivers's coach has made a really big difference um in what that personnel group is going to be doing, I think, now
2:27and in the future. Um, then obviously Caleb Douglas is with the Miami Dolphins who might be fighting for the number one
2:34overall pick. I mean, they're they're just not very good yet. Um, I think Jeff Hafley's done a good job. Um, I think
2:40he's the right guy for the job, but I think it's a job that's going to take more than a few years. So, starting off
2:45the dribbling, I think big big item is she looks a lot different to me at the very least to what I saw on tape at Old
2:54Miss in terms of just overall refinement, route detail, the ability to adjust in the air with consistency, use
3:03his body and his length and his size um to his advantage walling off defenders.
3:09Also, the one thing I think that with the Pieraw injury that is really going to be highlighted is his postcatch skill
3:17set. Like that's a really big one. Um, he was great at that at Old Miss. He was he was physical, a tough tackle, but
3:26also too he could make some guys miss in short spaces. Um, but we're seeing a lot a lot of that consistently at the next
3:35level, and that's a really good sign.
3:37And this is an offense where they didn't have a receiver over 650 yards that wasn't named Christian McAffrey. George KD's coming off an
3:47Achilles. Jawan Jennings is is now gone in Minnesota. He was he had 643 yards, led that room. And you have a Mike Evans
3:57that has already been hurt twice in camp. Missed significant time last year.
4:02You have Christian Kirk who I don't even know if he's returned to camp after suffering a hamstring injury.
4:08Debo Samuels is now in his 30s. He's got he got brought back to to the Bay Area.
4:16So, you don't have a lot like there's not a lot of weapons in that room now that you can rely on game to game.
4:25a lot of veterans, but I I don't know how impactful Debo Samuel and Mike Evans are going to and George KD are going to
4:33be gametoame down to down. Same with Christian McCaffrey, right? I mean, we're hitting the AJ apex for running backs with with McAffrey and um I don't
4:43know how that looks long term. So both in reddraft and in dynasty, the drum beat keeps getting louder for Stribbling because
4:52next year you might be looking at dribbling as the the focus point of this offense.
4:58Like that's a that's a reality. And I think that is going to correlate into fantasy success this year potentially because he's going to be on
5:09the field a lot. like he's gonna be on the field in 12 personnel because he's he's their best blocking receiver.
5:16Like that's a big deal. Jawan Jen did did so much for that run game. And especially with George KD, you know, I
5:25don't know what his return to play looks like. I don't know if he he'll be back week one or if he'll be back early
5:31season, but to help kind of fill that gap of less than 100% George KD early in the season, you're going to have to put
5:41stribbling out there to to help the run game. And that's a big deal, right? I mean, you're already starting a rookie
5:47in 12p from day one.
5:51I think with how he's looked, I mean, he's going to get he's going to command some targets, right? He's their best
5:56downfield threat, too. So I I think in that regards tripling is kind of that guy I would say. Yeah. And reddraft. I'm
6:03kind of circling him in that nine 10 range where it's a great offense.
6:10Kyle and the brass really like the kid.
6:13Dad's a former Marine. He seems to pick things up quickly. He's a worker. All All arrows point up, right? He's gotten
6:19better. Um and that's a big one. We talk about Cyrus Allen. I think Shadow Shay and I go back to that. He's done wonders
6:27with Allen. I mean, he looks n and day at the catch point than he did at Cincy.
6:32There's some inconsistencies there and inconsistencies that you and I have talked about when we did our rookie shows um back in March, April. Um that
6:41he if he didn't clean up, he'd be out of the league pretty quick. And he looked great. Like he looks like And it's funny
6:49because in camp you get like kind of the the the highlight highlights, right? Um, but like just watching some of their
6:56one-on- ones, like there's a pretty stark difference between him and the rest of their core in terms of just separating the line of scrimmage, just
7:04creativity within his routes. Just the confidence he has right now as a rookie is pretty palpable. Um, but I could see
7:11him playing himself into a major role in 27. I'd say he's more of the okay, this is going to be potentially, you know, a
7:19focus point of the 2027 Kansas City Chiefs right now. His ability to win quick will help Mahomes, especially with the ACL. I think, you know, Benny and
7:29Reed are going to want to get the ball out of his hands quickly this year in particular. Um, so I think that's a big
7:35one. He's the one out of that out of that room that can win the quickest in my opinion with Rice coming back from
7:40injury as well. But in 27 like Yeah. I mean, Rice and Kelsey might not be Chiefs anymore. You know, Kelsey might
7:49ride off in the sunset with Taylor Swift and um and Rashid Rice, I don't know if they resign him with all they've all
7:58he's put.
7:58>> Right off the rails. Yeah.
8:00>> Yeah. 100%. So, I mean, you're looking at a kid that they really like. Um he's played really well in the preseason so
8:07far. Obviously, it's been one game, but coaches rave about him. Patrick seems to have a really good rapport with him. So
8:13he might start season as a wide receiver 34 and then he might creep up into their second target with obviously injuries to
8:19both Worthy and Rice. I mean Worthy is still working through that shoulder and it's been it's been 11 months. Um and
8:27Rice is doesn't look like himself when you watch, you know, some of the one-on- ones and some of the cutups like the the
8:34abruptness and the stop start isn't there yet with the knee. Um he just had another operation prior to being incarcerated. Um, so that's a really
8:44difficult one to come back from when you have another another surgery. This is second in two years. So, um, that's difficult. And then the last one was
8:53Caleb Douglas. Um, out of when we saw him in college, right, we saw the abruptness,
9:03the the size, the Adnai Mitchell type stuff in a way, right? where we're like this
9:11is this looks great but where's the production like where's that hasn't happened. So that's what that's what
9:22intrigues me because in camp when you watch Willis and him connecting he had that really nice one-handed adjustment during their preseason game. I watched
9:32um he was coming out of the slot and and Willis hit him on a third and third third and long which is really beautiful
9:38but they have no one there. There's just no one there. I mean I love Mu Washington but like there's not like a
9:47there's not a target in that offense that's ever had over 600 yards receiving in a single season. So yeah, I mean it's
9:54really up for grabs if he keeps proving himself. He was their first receiver drafted.
10:00He could play his way into a major role by default and whether he sinks or swims is on him, but he's going to get the
10:08opportunity. He's already starting. Like he's already number one. The first depth chart's always like, "Yeah, you kind of put the rookie at like fifth on the
10:14depth chart, right?" And then you're like, remember Bjan was like fifth on the depth chart. Everybody's like, "What the heck?" But like it this is kind of
10:22like right of passage, right? So he's like the first year on their depth chart. Um so he's starting day one. So,
10:28it'll be really interesting to see, you know, what him on the outside looks like versus legit number one corners in the
10:35league. Like, that'll be the that'll be the litmus test here. Can he win against the big dogs, right? Because Malik Washington has a really interesting path
10:42because he's going to play in the slot mostly. He's he's moved around, play Z.
10:46He's probably gonna be the leading target earner for sure in 26, but my goodness, like Caleb Douglas is going to be up against the big dogs. He's playing
10:53outside, but whether he can hang or not is going to be up to him. and he's playing himself potentially into a
10:59long-term role because what happens in 27 if they're like the number two or number three overall pick and they like Willis, they take Jeremiah Smith, right?
11:08So, um he's really playing himself into a potential um future role in an offense that hopefully gets better as time kind
11:17of wears on here. Yeah, I mean I think that's great analysis and I think that when you know when I think about Douglas
11:25the you know they made him a third round pick which was a surprise to most people who were on the outside looking in and
11:32and you're right about the production the the thing that kind of drove me was when I watched him was all right big
11:39catches against loose zones um he did make that impressive catch which obviously you know I mean you you like that when you see that and he's and he's
11:49doing well in camp enough that they are making him a starter ahead of veterans like 22 Outwell and and Jaylen Tolbert.
11:58So you're they must feel good about what he's doing to a certain extent. They probably like the athletic ability and the reliability as a pass catcher. You
12:08also look at that offense of what we think that offense is going to be. And we talked about this with Devon Hen,
12:14which is all right, we're gonna we're gonna do a lot of play action. We're probably gonna move the pocket, roll to
12:22one side or the other, have these receivers cross the middle of the field, give Malik Willis multiple windows to try and hit the receiver. um where it's
12:31not as much timing based with with as many hitches, as many comebacks, as many deep outs um as what you curls that you
12:41might get with say Matthew Stafford, you know, or Brock Pury or something like that. um but or Lamar or even Lamar
12:50Jackson, you know, but I think with I think with Malik Willis, they probably want they're probably going to be saying, "Look, if your first two reads
13:02aren't open and you see an opening, run.
13:04>> Two reads and run, man."
13:05>> Yeah. And so, yeah, >> and and that's perfectly fine. and and he's one of the best runners in the league. He will probably be he will
13:13probably make it very um clear this year that he's one of the best runners in the league at the quarterback position. Um
13:23so that's the thing I'm worried about because even though you know some media reports say he's the wide receiver too, you you mentioned it. He's he's wide
13:32receiver one on the depth chart in terms of what how they played that out.
13:36>> Yeah. But then you look at the way the offense has played and you go, "Okay, are we going to are we going to see that
13:43manifest or is he going to be the second or third read with Greg Doulich being the guy who really benefits up that seam
13:52and then you have kind of this high low work where Malik Washington's kind of the guy underneath Greg Doulich or vice
14:01versa and the guy who's stretching the field who's proving to be a threat that that that creates the spacing for you is Caleb Douglas. And then what that
14:12means is or you know in an offense where maybe it's two reads and run um Douglas doesn't offer the fantasy impact this
14:21year.
14:22>> Sure.
14:22>> To the level that you would expect. But I think that he has certainly put himself in position where that if you're
14:29in a league where you're looking at somebody in your top 60 to 80 receivers, you're drafting Douglas because he's probably going to give you some good
14:37weeks um in the role that they ask him to be in. And you might be wise enough to go, you know what, he's making those
14:46pretty catches, you know, that he that he made in the preseason. I'm looking at the routes that he's getting getting the
14:52ball on and it's like big plays but he's not getting peppered like Washington or Dulich, >> right?
14:58>> Maybe I can trade him for some capital that I need and sell high on this guy.
15:04So yeah, >> you know, shortterm I'm short term I'm probably picking other players, but if he's at a good value, I can see how that
15:15could play out well for you. at in Dynasty. I'm certainly open to everything you said in terms of he could wind up being a big part of this offense
15:26longer term. So, I think yeah, he's maybe the lowest player on my board dynasty wise of the three, but I but I
15:34think that he's on the board now. He wasn't on the board before.
15:38>> I know. I I agree. I had him as a you know, pick at maybe the three four turn in your rookie drafts, right? So it's
15:45like >> now we're looking at it from the standpoint of >> in Dynasty, yeah, he could be the the one in that offense. Like it it could
15:55there's a pro probability might be, you know, 20 10 20%, maybe not, >> but that's better than just saying non zero,
16:05>> right? So it's like it could very well happen. We don't know what what Bell's going to look like when he returns,
16:11right? So, we don't know what they're going to do in the NFL draft next year.
16:14We don't know who's going to play quarterback for them next year.
16:17>> Yeah.
16:17>> So, there's a lot of whatifs, but what if he does play well enough to be a long-term option there? And so, that's
16:24the really unique part of it. And so, I'm interested to see what happens there. But, yeah, I agree with you. Out
16:30of the three, he's definitely the least intriguing. But also, I think a lot of it comes down to it's it's the situation
16:37with the most questions about also the situation that has >> the worst infrastructure. I mean, it's Kansas City and and um Kansas City and
16:46San Francisco are stable, >> right? You have a pretty volatile one in in Miami to say the least.
16:52>> Yeah. I I don't have anything to add about Cyrus Allen. I mean, I thought you made excellent points about that. Um
16:59dribbling. I mean, at Oklahoma State, you could see the contested catch skills definitely on display, but I agree with you about the route running. I didn't
17:07see >> Yeah.
17:08>> a lot of that at Old Miss in terms of the way what you would expect. And I'm still kind of in the frame of mind that,
17:17okay, he's going to probably be the number three unless he has to be the number one if Mike Evans gets hurt or Debo gets
17:25goes down. And I feel like that this cast of players that have been brought in, it's kind of like a a flailing
17:32network that had lots of success and they decided that let's get let's get a cast from a hit TV show from 30 years
17:40ago and let's put them [laughter] >> let's put them in but let's do the reboot but instead of doing like say the
17:49different world reboot where they put like Jasmine Guy and Kadem Hardison and like the the supporting roles and you're now going to be intrigued with all the
17:58new characters in it. It's like taking it's like taking friends probably and taking all those people and putting them in a show and then asking them to do the
18:08same '9s stuff that they did >> that I didn't find all that funny in the first place, but okay. Anyway, um but
18:15you know, I mean, just kind of redoing that. So you you you look at you you know dribbling in this in this
18:25sense and if there's a lot of injuries and there could be well Jawan Jennings had his career year because of all those
18:32injuries and birdie is efficient and he's creative um and imaginative. So you I think that could work for Stribbling this year even if he's [clears throat]
18:42not a complete receiver yet. But there's a lot there to to like. And I mean about them three weeks a two three weeks ago I
18:50was like okay when I start to talking about where I'm drafting players and I'm I'm putting out drafts like and the late
18:59rounds. Yeah. Stribbling's you got to take them. You gota you got you've got to with where he's at. And I and I and
19:07after mini camp and hearing Brock Perie say I already trust him as a route runner. When I hear Brock Perie say
19:14that, I'm like, "Okay, so the candidate for player I most likely missed this year will be Don Stribbling." And and I'm okay with that. You know, you know,
19:25you got to adjust. And I'm I'm still from my scouting st perspective, I'm thinking, all right, let's see what's going on here. I'm still not completely
19:35convinced about stuff, but as a fantasy analyst, I'm thinking, >> okay, yeah, draft him as long as the value doesn't get too lofty in terms of
19:44where you're going to have to pick them.
19:46And I'd say there's a fair bit of room now because of, you know, because of the fact that there's a lot of injuries
19:53there. I just I would rather see him inside like the or outside of the 13th 14th round. Like if I could get him
20:00there, that's where I would rather be.
20:03you could a month ago. I don't think that's going to be happening now.
20:06>> Yeah. No, I I I agree with you. And it's funny because like it's one of those where it's like from a scouting lens,
20:13like everything you said about stribbling is true, right? But what we don't ever know is what goes on from
20:23late April, early May to August, right?
20:27It's a three, four month block of time.
20:31How much better do these guys get? Some of them get a lot better because what ends up happening is the regiment of an
20:38NFL organization is vastly different than when you are in college.
20:44So, you get into an NFL organization, it is an all day affair. It is a literal full-time job. People sometimes think
20:50these guys just go practice and play.
20:52No. Wake up at Wake up at 6:00 a.m. Go to the facility, lift, go see your trainer,
21:03meetings, practice, lunch, more meetings, walk through like every day. Like this is a
21:14big deal when it comes to the structure.
21:16So all these new guys are absorbing all this information differently.
21:21>> Yep. Some of them pick it up extremely quick and are like sponges. Like we're seeing what's dribbling to where you
21:28know pretty and I saw that interview.
21:30He's like yes he knows what he's doing already. Like he's not missing things.
21:34Like some of the details need to be ironed out because he's so fresh but like I trust him because he knows the
21:40assignment and he's doing that correctly. That's the first step because what happens is when that step is checked he can play faster. Like that's
21:50the difference. Like like Jameson Williams is a great example, right? Like he even admits like I had no idea what the heck I was doing as a rookie. I had
21:58no idea what was going on.
21:59>> He and Devonte Adams would tell you they probably were like more talented than dribbling, >> right? 100%.
22:05>> But as you're about to say, >> yeah, they learned slower.
22:09>> Yeah, it you can't play as fast.
22:11>> Yeah.
22:12>> So your learning curve is is bumped down. So that's a huge deal. We don't never We never know that. And I think a
22:17lot of times when when players break out, it's like, I told you so. But like there's a large pocket of this where we
22:24just do not know. It's not as copy paste from NFL draft all the way to August, September as as we think. There's a
22:33bandwidth in here that comes behind the scenes of how these guys take care of themselves when they're legitimate adults. Now, how are these guys learning and
22:45perceiving and adopting the new information? How are they taking to their new role? How are they learning from the veterans? Like
22:54>> about >> how does that indoctrination look? Like, we don't have that information. We're just trying to, >> you know, pick up sound bites from beat
23:02reporters and quarterbacks and and put the puzzle piece together. But to be honest, like the biggest thing is how quickly can these guys acclimate to
23:12being professionals? And by all accounts, stribbling and Allen in particular have done that in spades. And so that's
23:22the first step. Can you earn the trust of your signal caller? Can you earn the trust of your staff?
23:30If you can quickly, then you can carve yourself out a role because you're right, this is it's a kind of the band
23:37of old misfits with the 49ers where you got Mike Evans who's probably a Hall of Famer, Debo Samuels, who's probably in
23:45the Hall of Very good, and then you got George KD who's probably a Hall of Famer, but they're in the Twilight, man. Is they're they are
23:55close to out the door.
23:58So yeah, like they're going to need some of the postcatch stuff for this offense to work and I don't think any of those
24:06guys do it at a high a high enough level right now. Obviously KD and Debo were elite elite postcatch when they were in
24:14their primes, but they're in their Twilights now. And I don't think obviously with KD we got the Achilles, so I have to know. Debo
24:21was fine last year, but like not Oh, Debo as we saw when he was ripping it up um a few years back here.
24:31But yeah, it'll be fascinating to see what um what dribbling can do. Yeah. I mean, one of the things that you brought
24:37up and I love that you detailed it about the acclamation process. I I wrote about it maybe 1015 years ago on my site and I
24:44called it the great divide.
24:46>> Um, you know, there's just there's this great divide between what we see on film and what manifests once they start to to
24:55become pros and all the things that happen in the background that they have to develop to get there. So, I I love
25:02that you detailed that the way that you did because, you know, it's it's also why sometimes people will often ask, well, what do you think you got wrong
25:10about that player?
25:11>> Right?
25:12>> You know, and and it's the same way of what do you think you got right about that player? Because sometimes you can
25:19say you can say, you know, this is what I think, but we don't know for sure. You know, we don't we don't know whether a
25:28guy lost his confidence and started playing slower all the time. We don't know whether he, you know, when you hear someone like Ben Watson talk about the
25:36difference between playing at, you know, Sanford Stadium at UG and the difference between playing in in Foxboro, >> right? it. He was like, you know, being
25:47in the locker room and watching the difference in how players prepared when I was a Patriot and I'm watching all these veterans, they you could tell the
25:58pressure of them supporting families was in their was was on their mind where everyone else was the was all about partying and who they were going to hook
26:08up with.
26:08>> What are we doing what are you doing after the game?
26:10>> Yeah, exactly. And how much fun they're gonna have. Sure. And he said, and you could, you know, he said it was stark.
26:17And then I remember Frank Gore, >> you know, there was, you know, there were players in that 49er locker room early in Frank Gore's career when he was
26:26a rookie who were all still in the college mindset. What are we going to do? Let's party, you know, rap and
26:31playing, having fun. And Frank Gore literally shouting down veterans crying, you know, telling them that they don't care enough about what they're doing.
26:42you know, and you can kind of see, well, Frank Gore, Frank Gore played forever.
26:47Um, so that kind of gives you the idea about the mindset with that. So, all right. Speaking of players we'd like to
26:54see play forever, but we don't know whether they're even going to play a good a bit this year at but have the
27:02talent that you could see them being a 10 12 year veteran who has a long career that could be a Hall of Fame career if
27:13their talent manifests. Now, it's a big step to say that, but we know that a lot of people saw him as the number one
27:20receiver in the draft this year. I mean, and that's Jordan Tyson.
27:25Hamstring issue.
27:27What do you think? Are we I mean like to me to me I'm just going to say short high level keep bumping Jawan Johnson up your board
27:36in fantasy because he's an underrated tight end and he's going to be the number two option probably in the passing game with Tyler Suge just like
27:45last year and he's been underrated because people thought it was a fluke and they looked at at Tyson. But to me,
27:54Brandon, I look at this and I think my theory is he moves so dynamically,
28:04but it's so unpredictable and lacking uniform process for how he should be moving. So that he's playing like way
28:14outside his frame. He like moves in ways that aren't scalable and then that puts extra stress on everything. And it's not
28:25just he gets hurt, but what I'm thinking is that it's why when I watched him and I go, every other play I feel like he
28:34did something that caused the whole chain of events to go out of whack and he screwed up the play and I could
28:42reverse >> engineer the play and go, >> he the reason he dropped that ball is because this move here, right? The
28:49reason that he didn't get open is because of this move here. And then there might be even a chain of things
28:55that happen where you go, that's why the whole thing was messed up, but then every once in a while the chain works
29:02out and it's breathtaking. Um, and everybody sees the breathtaking and they go, "Oh, that's fantastic." And but to
29:11me, he's kind of like um he's kind of like Brandon Lloyd with a wobbly wheel.
29:19Like >> I mean gosh that's actually funny.
29:24>> So tell me I mean where are you at with him? Are you looking at him now and going oh I just you know I are you out
29:32on him totally right now or are you just like I'm at least this year I'm out on him totally.
29:39>> Yeah. So, it's kind of a complicated it's a complicated issue because you've had a multi, you know, reconstruction, then you're working through multiple
29:51hamstring injuries in different years and different sides.
29:58So, there's something glaringly wrong.
30:00Like, no one can dispute like this kid is not healthy.
30:06>> Yeah.
30:07>> Why? Like that's the thing I think people are concerned about. Oh, what's the timeline? I'll be very honest. If I
30:16was put on this case and I was asked to consult, I would say he's taking the red shirt here.
30:24>> Shut him down. Yeah. You have to figure out first mechanism, get video, go back from the practice plan from that specific
30:34weeks leading up to the first injury, what those look like, time of day, everything, what lifts were like, if
30:43there's video that showed him moving, you know, prior to that, like what that looked like compared to him moving after.
30:51And then you go get the full body MRI and you figure out what else is going on. And then you get, okay, we're going
31:00for some asymmetrical asymmetrical scans to see how large are these gaps from an
31:10asymmetry standpoint, right? Does one limb produce X amount of force better than the other limb? You know, does the calf Achilles complex produce X amount
31:18of force better on the right than the left? right? Are the hamstring shut off on one side? Is is are his glutes like
31:27like that's the thing is there's so many like items that you got to unpack to where it makes no sense for him to
31:37play this year. Like that's the first thing I will say. Can he be healthy?
31:41Sure. He he can might play 10 games this year, right? Let's say if he's not put on IR. Um, but is that the best for his
31:51long-term health? Because this is an investment, right? This is a this is a first round receiver. This is, in my opinion, the most dynamic receiver in
31:59the draft. Explosive leaper, but the dynamism is is very dramatic erratic.
32:06That's what they call it, dramatic erratic. Everything is very erratic.
32:09Nothing is pre-ordained or planned. He's just super explosive. He's a freaking jumping bean. You have no idea where it's going, right? He's the bouncy ball.
32:17But you got to figure out if he's going to be the bouncy ball in some respect.
32:22That's that's a superpower.
32:25How do we make it so we can kind of bubble wrap that a bit, but also put some armor on that so we can just
32:35mitigate the risk of injury rest of career. That's the goal. Mitigate risk.
32:39It's not going to be a oh, he goes to X person and he's better. No, you got to talk to his past physical therapist,
32:48past surgeons, get detailed soap notes and everything involving his health as an athlete. And then you
32:58go from there because this is not as simple as all right, he has a grade two hamstring strain, hasn't happened before, he'll be ready
33:07in three, four weeks.
33:08>> Some teams are going to some teams do that.
33:10>> That's the issue. teams are super lazy when it comes to information. Like they're very lazy when it comes to information because they want to hear
33:18what they want to hear. They don't want to hear what's actually true and transparent. So >> the GM made a bad call.
33:27>> That's the thing is like I I love Kell Moore. He's a great coach, but holy cow, he goes on the mic first day after the
33:35injury and said it's unrelated to the other side. doesn't no it's correl there's a distinct correlation here and I said this in freaking last March I'm
33:44like his reinjury risk is extremely exceedingly high it is reaching will fuller territories of high >> and if he doesn't figure it out that is
33:54going to continue to reoccur but that's the thing is teams are inherently lazy because they want to hire we've talked this before you want to hire yesmen who
34:03will say oh we can get him back on the field in x time getting back on on the field is way different than staying on
34:10the field for multiple years. You draft this kid in the first round because you thought he was a Pro Bowl allp prolevel
34:15talent that will never be realized if he can't play 15 plus games for you every single year. So, there's a large pocket
34:24of items that need to be worked on before he sees the field again. I don't know what the Saints training staff and
34:30brass is like. Um, there used to be some good guys there in Matthew Ria and those guys are awesome. don't know if they're
34:37still there or work with them in some capacity, but my goodness, he's a complicated case, but you got to figure it out. I mean, but he overall, I mean,
34:45if you're listening to this and you're like, when will he play? I hope not this year. I really hope they do not put him
34:52on the field this year because he's at a he's at a risk for another catastrophic injury. He's just risk is elevated. So,
34:59just figure it out. Um, he could return in six weeks if it's a grade two. if it's a grade two hamstring that's that
35:06hasn't been reagravated six weeks, eight weeks.
35:10>> But again, it's like it's just it's tough to tough to say. He can return.
35:15Yeah. But the risk is in the rep.
35:19>> So it may have been funny to say Brandon Lloyd with a wobbly wheel, but I have a better one now. I think that the after
35:26you described this so well, >> you've seen the movie Ford versus Ferrari.
35:33I actually haven't, but I heard it's good.
35:35>> It's a very good movie. And it's about it's the true story about the Shelby racing team. And you sound like the
35:43Shelby racing team in terms of like we've got to we've got a car. We've got to research it. We've got to test it.
35:52We've got to find out everything we can find out about it to make sure that we can have a car that's going to going to
35:59last the entire race and run at its peak capacity without problem.
36:05>> But meanwhile, you've got the Ford Motor Corporation with all the yesmen with one or two driving things down because of their ego
36:15because they want to beat Ferrari because they tried to buy them out and I think that's what it was. They tried to
36:22buy him out and they were laughed out of the room. Um, so you're more like the you're more like the the the main
36:30characters in this part basically saying our car could be really good, but we need the New Orleans Saints to not lead
36:38with their ego and be yesmen and we need to have them actually allow us to do the research we can do to build this guy up
36:46to be what he can become. and and so yeah, very well worthwhile movie and that's definitely it. So, we didn't have
36:54this question in our list, but it just has me thinking I think I remember the Edwards Institute that Marshon Lloyd went to. Um or
37:05>> Yeah, him and Christian Watson. It was it was somewhere in the Midwest. I got to look into it more, >> but
37:12>> yeah, you got to leave no stone unturned.
37:14>> Yeah. So, I'm just curious like you look at Marshon Lloyd and you know I know Sigman Bloom's been playing up the hey
37:25he went to the Edwards Institute. He this is what he learned. This is what we have going on. And I think okay well
37:32that's good. It's good that he went to get the to to have this investigated and work through it. But now here's the
37:41test. you know, now we may have the test this year with him. And I mean, and that's not to include will he stop
37:48bouncing things outside and fumbling the ball, but like if all that's [laughter] cleared, if that's all cleared up and he's like conceptually playing well, um,
37:58you know, is >> is it typical that is it? I don't think it sounds to me like no case is typical.
38:06Everyone's unique. So it while he may have learned this stuff about himself and they're try they're trying things out and going well let's see if this
38:17helps you this year and then if not we'll go back to the drawing board or we'll add to it or tweak it until it
38:25does hopefully happen and hopefully you don't experience a catastrophic injury right >> in between now and then. Am I is is that
38:32an accurate assessment of the situation?
38:35>> Yeah, I would I would say so. Okay.
38:37>> Uh yeah, it's it's one of those items where, you know, everybody's body responds to trauma a bit differently, right? No one is the same in that
38:47regard. So, you're right. There is no it is very much case by case. So, you know, if you've had a multi-legate knee
38:54injury, yeah, you're you're at elevated risk the rest of your career for soft tissue issues. Just the way it is. Um,
39:03anything that's need that need to be reconstructed surgically, like that's a very difficult endeavor for the body to latch back onto when it comes
39:13to, you know, high-speed cutting and, you know, being an extremely explosive athlete, especially at one that's playing at or around 200 pounds. Like,
39:23that's a a lot of force. And so that kind of goes back to as well how practices look like and I've said this
39:31before like the NFL does a really poor job of managing daily load because they want information that benefits their plans not benefits the athletes on the
39:40field. So that's a really big one when you're talking about Jordan Tyson.
39:44The hamstring injury itself probably couldn't have been avoided because of his situation, past surgeries, different injury sites, all
39:54that stuff, right? But doesn't help that a lot of their practices go with what's called unmitigated volume where the volume in itself in practice the daily
40:04load can reach X level, but they never know because they just were practicing hard. Like, >> yeah, >> that's what we got. Like it's not a
40:13there's not a plan B really besides okay go on the side field and work with our trainer. Like that's just what they do
40:20in the NFL. It's just kind of strange because they have they have they have sports science teams that like will do
40:28stuff and like put chips in the shoulder pads and use catapult and all that and get their miles an hour. What they don't
40:35like to track is daily running volume and all that stuff and daily readiness like assessments. The player is not ready. They shouldn't practice. Like
40:46there are levels neurologically to where if you are in a state of you know neurologic fatigue, you shouldn't do something explosive. You should do
40:55something alternative that doesn't use as much force very quickly. That doesn't exist in the NFL as much. Like it's a hey, if we're [ __ ] hitting today,
41:04we're hitting. Like we're we're doing it. Like coaches do that all the time.
41:07And it's frustrating because players get hurt because of it. Like players who are injuryprone, even more injuryprone because the NFL doesn't really care
41:15about the volume and the nature of that that the players have from a stress standpoint. Um, and so that's a big one
41:24too where it's like a player like Tyson, like you need a sports science team alone just for him. Like if if he's not
41:33in the green >> on my board probably right [laughter] there >> like like >> but it's but you're right >> like if he's not ready to practice you
41:42got to know >> but like here goes this I would love to know on the day what were his levels like?
41:49>> Yeah.
41:50>> What what was what was the prior day like volumewise?
41:54My guess is it was maybe pretty high, but it could be really low, but neurologically he's fried like that day.
42:01He's in the red, but they're never going to know because they don't want that information because the information doesn't help them feel good. It's just
42:11like, oh, I have to I have to do they're lazy for the most part.
42:15>> I have to manage this now. I have to learn this guy.
42:18>> I have to learn something new, >> right? like if your star running back he's >> two straight days he's he's in the red
42:26we got to send him the >> probably good but like you don't want to hear that information so it's like it's
42:32just but >> yeah it's a it short answer yeah you're absolutely right >> um when it comes to this being a very
42:41case byase thing like will sending him to the same place Marshon Lloyd and Christian Watson went to help maybe I don't know um we haven't seen them
42:50much contact.
42:51>> That's the thing is like you're you're taking, you know, nonp pre-ordained looks down to down, you know?
43:00>> So, how do you hold up when that stuff happens is is the real question.
43:04>> All right, so let's run through a couple of quick ones and then we'll have a little bit more time to dive deeply into
43:08some others here that like we did earlier just now. Um, Eric all, you know, he's shining in camp. You know, speaking of guys who can't stay healthy,
43:18>> I was going to say Great segue, >> you know, but has shining in and camp, we know that he's at best probably the
43:25third or fourth option at best. And I would say probably fourth option at best in this offense if it's healthy. Um,
43:32that's if they want to use him more often than they use Andre Yoshivas, you know, or Kobe Young if they really think
43:39Kobe Young's going to make a play for that role. But I don't think that's going to happen. It's, you know, it's
43:43Chase Brown and the two two awesome receivers that they have. But, you know, so let's forget let's forget reddraft cuz he's a he's a waiverwire edition at
43:54best that you could stream to get if he pops.
43:58>> But Dynasty after all the injuries he's had and all the angst with that and coming back from this. Oh, and by the
44:06way, apparently falling off some truck in Greece um in the off season and nearly run over.
44:14>> It's pretty funny actually. He's playing well in camp. Um, so you know, the fact that I'm reading this this evening that
44:22he nearly that he fell off a tra a truck in Greece makes me think, yeah, this guy's like a magnet for trouble just,
44:30you know, not in like off-field trouble, but just a magnet for like getting hurt.
44:35like he's like one of my friends I remember who he was a pretty good athlete and I remember he like broke his
44:41arm doing he he he broke something every year in high school and couldn't play because and it was always a ridiculous
44:48injury like dive rolling or breaking his foot kicking planting when he kicked the soccer ball. I mean just like crazy stuff like that. Um, but uh, but with
44:59that in mind, Dynastywise, is he a guy that you you look at and just say, until I see him prove it, I'm not do I'm
45:09not touching him even though he's talented, or is he a guy that you go, "Yeah, I'll, you know, look, I'll take
45:14the chance right now, you know, where do you delineate that line with him?"
45:19>> Yeah, I mean, typically like my delineation comes from how's the offensive infrastructure, right? It's going to be really high-scoring offense
45:26in Cincinnati, right? They're one of the better offenses in the NFL.
45:30Tier one offensive system. So that checks the first box, right? Second box is cost of acquisition, right? It's not going to cost anything to probably
45:39acquire Eric All, right? So then check that box then sure like end of bench stash could pop. He's a starting caliber
45:49tight end. Like he's just as talented as the Brenton Strange list. Sure.
45:54>> Yeah.
45:55>> Maybe even more so. But and Brettton Strange is a probably at the tail end of the viable tier of tight ends.
46:02>> Yeah. Top 15 to 17, you know. Yeah.
46:05>> Um but that's kind of where he could be, which is good. If you get a Brighton Strange out of paying nothing, you're
46:14very happy with that. So yeah, absolutely. I'd say cost of acquisition is super low and it's a phenomenal offense and that's going to score a ton
46:23of points.
46:24>> Yep. Yep. I like it. You know, like if you to me the way that translates is you have 40 plus roster spots and you have
46:301.5 PPR tight end and Eric All hanging out there, go get him. Just it's a lottery ticket, you know? That's really
46:38what it is. And even if you win 10 bucks off of it, it's that's still pretty good. All right, Robert Henry. We saw we
46:45both liked Robert Henry. We talked about him all last year. Robert Henry um showed a little cintilation, you know, a little cintillating work, you know, in
46:54the preeason.
46:55>> Are we buying the idea that Kron Allen, even though he was the loadbearer, um and got the yardage that he did? Do you,
47:04if you had to guess, do you think Washington is more going to lean on let's get Kron Allen for redundancy because he's big, he can pass protect,
47:14and he can carry a load. Or are they going to go, you know, if Jakori gets hurt or if um, you know,
47:24McNichols or or for you know, Ford, they those guys we we're not sure about. We want to keep the explosive guy. So, do
47:33they want to keep do they want to keep the I'm and I'm overstating this because they are very different players. Are we
47:40keeping the Travon Henderson type or are we keeping the Raandre Stevenson type um in in this offense?
47:47>> That's a that's a Yeah, for sure. I I would I would like to think Henry sticks around.
47:55>> Me, too.
47:55>> Um because I think he's the closest thing that they have to cross Merritt.
48:01Um, but it's one of those items too, like you got Rashad White, you got Ford, >> they're going to run out of center, it's
48:12going to be action.
48:14>> Yeah, it's it's a pretty crowded room.
48:19So, I don't like it's one of those where I don't know like he could be practice squatted and I would be shocked like if
48:26this was any other team like let's see if let's say if he was on the Chicago Bears, >> right? You'd be pretty pumped.
48:33>> Yeah.
48:34>> You'd be pretty pumped because like oh man just got hurt. Swift might not be there next year. Like yeah, you're kind
48:39of excited that he might be something, right?
48:41>> Yeah.
48:42>> But he's on the commanders and JCM looks like he's locked into an RB1 role there for at least this year. You brought
48:48Rashad Rashad White in to be, you know, the pass pro, third down, let's catch some passes out of the back field type
48:58dude and the rest of them are just >> there's dudes.
49:02>> Yeah, >> there's dudes. Um, so yeah, I mean, again, it's if you're in Dynasty's cost acquisition, cost you nothing. Um, but if JCM, let's
49:12say if JCM gets hurt, Rashard Rashad Wiss has a hamstring injury right right now. So, if that lingers, >> yeah, I think Henry's a better option
49:23than Allen every day of the week. But, do they think that is the question, and I don't know the answer to that.
49:28>> I'm I agree with you, and I'm leaning towards skepticism and saying they're going to go with Kron, but I think for
49:34sure. I think so.
49:35>> Yeah, just based on draft capital. Um, all right. Jaylen Oell hasn't played all preseason. had a finger injury, then a
49:43hamstring, but you know, we have Jaden Higgins, his former Iowa State teammate and current teammate, lose lose the season doing an ACL. We've got Tank
49:53Dell, but we've talked about Tank Dell.
49:56And Tank Dell is like basically um you know, Tank Dell's B Tank Dell's in the category of he's in the deep end of
50:07the water and the sharks have circled his career and they're all oceanic white tips who don't usually are around humans. And any shipwrecked person who
50:16who has ever gone down in a plane or a shipwreck will tell you that they are the scariest shark. Not the white
50:22sharks, not the bull sharks or the tiger sharks. It's the oceanic white tips. And I think the oceanic white tips are kind
50:28of circling Tank Dell's career. Um, so for me, I'm thinking I don't care about preeason. I don't care about training camp. I care about the fact that Jaylen
50:39Nowell might have a hundred target upside this year um in an offense where he could play flanker or he could play
50:47slot and that CJ Strad had like legit um rapport with him um last year in key moments kind of the same way that
50:58>> Parker Washington had legit rapport with Trevor Lawrence for about three years before the coaches saw the light. So, are you buying Jaylen Noel? Are you
51:08thinking they're gonna try and add somebody else? Um, they're gonna say, "Hey, DeAndre, you know, we we we know you're coaching at Georgia Tech as an
51:19intern."
51:20>> That's true.
51:21>> You want to come back for [laughter] a reunion tour?
51:24>> You can be the special guest farewell.
51:27Special guest actor to show show up for the season for us. You can be you can play the old part that was all the hits,
51:34you know, in our struggling network here. Um, but I mean, what do you think is Noel a guy you're I mean, is it he's
51:43he's not even doesn't even have an ADP for 20 rounds, you know? So, [laughter] >> you take that. But, yeah, I mean, but
51:51yeah.
51:52>> Yeah, he's drafted the first three rounds. So, it's like in the NFL draft.
51:57So, >> yeah. I mean, he's gonna be a player. I liked him coming out of Iowa State. I thought, you know, great linear athlete,
52:06good with the ball in his hands. If you can, you know, refine some of his tempo stuff and his tree, he can be good. But
52:12they drafted him last year to be the air parent to Christian Kirk.
52:17And now that time has come. But now there's no Jaden Higgins. And there's no one else. Literally no one else. Yeah.
52:24Nico Collins, Dalton Schultz, that's about it. Yep.
52:28>> Tank Dell, you're absolutely right. The fact that he's returned to the field is remarkable.
52:34>> Yes.
52:35>> Rearkable.
52:36>> Yes.
52:36>> My expectation is that he plays at some point this year, but how well and how often remains to be seen. I don't expect
52:44him to play often. Well, sure. Often. I I don't think he's going to garner like a 20% target share this year.
52:52>> Yeah.
52:54>> Yeah. Jaylen Noel might get 105 targets, 110 targets. That's where I have him projected is literally >> have 800 yards. Yeah. Like we don't
53:02know.
53:02>> Five to seven touchdowns. Yeah.
53:04>> Right. This is gonna be a better offense this year. Nick Kaye, I don't know. I mean, not a huge fan, but also that
53:12could be CJ Strad. Wasn't a huge fan of his game last year either. Yeah.
53:17>> I mean, a lot of it goes on Straoud.
53:18>> Offensive line is better on paper. much better on paper. I I think what's going to happen, the one person we're not
53:25talking about in this, there's two people. Dave Montgomery, >> the back breaker, >> going to have a freaking massive year.
53:32This is going to be even less risky of an offense because they're just going to ball control, ball control, ball control. David Montgomery could approach
53:401350 yards now because they are going to absolutely pound the rock. Like it is going to be like no tomorrow.
53:48>> Strap it in, baby. Oh, that's it. That's it. That's it. We're riding him into the sunset, man. This is his last contract.
53:54He They're He's going down swinging.
53:57>> Um second, and we love him. Daniel freaking Sabquitz. [laughter] >> This could be it.
54:04>> That's true.
54:05>> This could be Xavier Hudson's not very good.
54:09>> This could be that. This could be that J. This could be that.
54:12>> You said it. You said it for months.
54:13This this could be that Isaiah Crowwell moment with the Browns had where they were like they didn't know what they had
54:20in them and then they go well let's put him in the preseason see what happens.
54:25>> Have you seen The Longest Yard?
54:27>> Yes.
54:28>> And it's like they give it to what's his name? Um it's like Megot like Nelly's character and he's like do it again do
54:34it again. And it's like oh my god like that could be >> what did we have?
54:39>> What is going on?
54:40>> That could be Sabco which is hilarious.
54:42Um, but yeah, I mean, he's probably like a freaking like super dark. He didn't get a target in the first preseason
54:49game, so he [laughter] >> Well, well, Coroella, it took three preseason games at the end of the third preseason game for him to get a shot.
54:57So, >> any anything could happen, but no, I mean, going back to Noel, I think, yeah, absolutely. They're going to have to
55:03move him around, but I think, you know, the big winner is Nico Collins, unfortunately.
55:07>> Yeah. Uh he's moved he's he's gonna he might have 160 targets. Like I mean holy cow. I mean if if they're gonna if
55:15they're going to get into games with some teams that can put up points like need to to go point for point. I mean
55:21they got to throw the ball at him. I mean that's it.
55:23>> If he can play more than 15 games that then we're good. We're good.
55:27>> I mean my goodness. I mean he's gonna Yeah. I mean he's gonna have a massive target year.
55:33>> Yeah. Um because I thought Jade Higgins was gonna be a I I'm like look this kid not be a thousand receiver. Like he
55:39looked great in camp by all accounts.
55:41He's clicking with CJ Straes.
55:46>> Yeah, man. So >> yeah, it's tough. But yeah, I mean, I think the big winner here is obviously Collins, but you know, Dave Montgomery
55:53is going to just be a freaking absolute workhorse for this offense because now there's going to be even more risk averse. If if you aren't listen one of
56:02my favorite drafts I did that I put up football guys when I was profiling like early turn late turn middle rounds and I
56:09did 10 drafts of each just to show you what like different ranges of like okay stick to ADP these are ones I liked
56:16stick to ADP these were ones I hated and why you should avoid these certain strategies with ADP or flaws and then
56:23let's veer a little bit from ADP and use it as more of a guideline and and the ones I And I when when you can get of a
56:32draft where I'm going, "Oh, I can start with David. I can start with Derk Henry, Saquon Barkley, and David Montgomery, and still get Parker Washington, um Lad
56:44McConi, um Michael Wilson, and um there was like another player on the list that I really like." And I'm going, "Yeah,
56:53I'm if I can get David Montgomery as my running back three, I am thrilled because I'm often taking him as my
56:59running back, too."
57:01>> So, so yeah, I love that idea. Now, you mentioned getting targeted like crazy for Nico Collins. go to the a player we
57:10think should be getting targeted like crazy, but we're not sure what's going to go on in Atlanta because Drake London when they target him like a a big slot
57:21receiver, he can give you 150, 160 targets, but last year he didn't get those kind of targets. And now Kevin Stfansky rolls into town with the 12
57:31personnel offenses that he often would use. Now, is he going to use 12 personnel or let his coordinator use something different? And does he have a
57:42quarterback to execute that? Does he have receivers? Both receivers I see look more like slot receivers in Jan Dodson and Lamade Zakayas who can play
57:54Clanker who can go deep for you. He can give you some of the outside stuff.
57:58We've seen that with him. But ideally, >> they have three slot receivers in Atlanta in a 12 personnel set um matched
58:09with Kevin Stfansky. Um this feels like it's kind of like Larry Curley and Mo doing a fellow. I'm not sure that's
58:18really going to work out all that well for this this team. So, are you I I just dropped Drake London to like like
58:26basically high-end wide receiver three on my board cuz I I can't see him being >> what he should be.
58:37H man, I I So, here goes this. So, I I have I have London fairly high, >> right?
58:48But that comes with the caveat of like this. He's the riskiest player you're going to get at near his draft slot,
58:59>> right?
59:00>> Because this I mean this might be a top five pick Atlanta Falcons team.
59:07>> Yeah. like with some of the injuries they've already had like there is no one that scares you on offense besides Bjan and Bjan Kyle Pittz
59:18and Drake Lun can Tua get the ball to Drake London then Kyle Pitz is the question I have no idea >> Tua if Tua is starting for you for 16 17
59:2818 you are in big trouble >> like he is I mean he is no longer a starting quarterback in the NFL he might
59:37get the Russell Wilson treatment the rest of his career where it's like I guess we'll bring him in. We might reluctantly start him,
59:44>> but he's not very good.
59:46>> Michael Pennix, I don't know how healthy he's going to be.
59:49>> That's right.
59:50>> Through the first quarter of the season, >> but my gosh, are they going to be not good on offense. Like, they're going to
59:57struggle to move the ball. They're going to stack they're going to stack boxes.
60:01Bjon's gonna have to be Bjan is gonna be himself because he's such a phenomenal receiver that he's going to make it a
60:08little bit easier for Tua.
60:11But man, >> outside of pits, >> it's going to be freaking frustrating because you you're not going to get there's not going to be a lot of the big
60:20boy looks and big boy routes because Tua can't throw him any like >> Yeah.
60:26>> It's just not like the timing isn't there. We saw that with two of the last couple years.
60:31>> Yeah.
60:32>> Like >> and it was three year three, four years ago where defense has really figured out, oh, he can't throw that ball to
60:39Tyreek Hill on some of these routes that they're that McDaniel is >> he can't run. And so, yeah, I mean that
60:49plus a couple concussions into it and you're just >> Yeah, I mean they're in big trouble offensively. I mean it Bjon's gonna have
60:57to have an MVP caliber season to keep them afloat.
61:01>> Let's let's end it with Omarian Hampton.
61:04>> Mike McDaniel. Yeah. Mike McDaniel says, "Hey, sorry fantasy guys.
61:10>> It's going to be a hot hand committee approach for us."
61:12>> I saw that. Now, I mean, the way there's a part of me that wants to say we should have seen this coming because a Mike
61:22McDaniel loves the fast scatback types to pair with
61:30players. Um he runs a lot of different schemes in terms of run blocking, you know,
61:39>> and Omaran Hampton is not a natural outside zone wide zone runner.
61:44>> He's a he's a gap guy. Like just pound it, baby. Get downhill and run through people's arms, you know, run through
61:53people's chests if you need to and get the yards. And if you get into the open field with a long runway, they're not
62:00catching you, you know. But when we needed somebody last year to run zone and you needed and they got penetration or disruption um as you're trying to set
62:11things up, you can't. He couldn't create.
62:15Naji Harris, he could create. Then he tore his Achilles. Um so we're looking at Hampton and they're talking about outside zone, outside zone, outside
62:25zone. And well, Kamani Vidal can run outside zone.
62:29>> That's right.
62:29>> Katon Mitchell probably is better at outside zone just because he's quicker to an extent, but we, you know, he's
62:39probably more a gap guy also, um, and a receiver.
62:43>> But you look at this team >> and I mean the I've heard some fantasy people argue back, clap back. Well, he
62:51said that about that. He said that that in Miami and look what Devon Hen did. Um and but weren't there other backs who
63:02were in the mix who all got hurt >> when when that happened? So are we looking at I mean to me I still think
63:10Hampton's the leader in touches. Um, but is he, you know, people are rating him top 15
63:21should be should be looking at him more as like 20 to 30, you know, or or is that too low?
63:30>> I I have him on my do not draft list like [clears throat] >> Okay. in I I sent out um reddraft small
63:40guide to all subscribers, you know, put it on Twitter for it's totally free and you get the DND section. He's the first
63:48one and reason being is just like you alluded to. I mean, this is a we don't know how he's going to fit in to a wide
63:56zone scheme. He's a He's a gap gap dominant runner, but also he's not going to be the most efficient option in that offense. I think Keaton
64:07Mitchell has a good year. I think he's a big sleeper.
64:10>> Um >> I agree.
64:12>> Come on. Vidal showed that he can he belongs as being a secondary option in the NFL.
64:17um played great down the stretch, but goodness, if if I'm drafting him at his cost, like I you can't not be nervous.
64:27Yeah, this is going to be an improved offense, but you're not going to get a lot of a you're not going to get a ton of
64:33receptions out of Hampton, right? That's one. Two, you're going to get a pretty good committee here where McDaniel said,
64:43"I want to use all three guys." This is not a I have to. No, I want to use these three guys. I like all of their skill
64:52sets. They all do certain things. Well, this is not, oh, Hampton was a first round pick. He looks like the best
65:01player in our offense.
65:04No, he he doesn't. He's the highest drafted player in that whole offense.
65:10Think about it. besides Justin Herbert um from a skill position standpoint, but he's good. He's a good player, but I don't
65:20think he's like a, you know, a 1500 yard back. Like I just I I don't see that >> he'd be a 1200 yard back in the
65:30Jacksonville Jaguars Blake Bortles offense if Leonard Fornette got hurt.
65:35>> Absolutely. Yeah, 100%. I think that Leonard Fornette is actually a fairly good stylistic comparable to him because you look at Leonard for when he's at the
65:45box with Brady. Like he was great when he got like all like a vast majority of those touches.
65:54>> Yeah.
65:54>> But that's what it's going to take. I don't I don't think Hampton's your efficiency guy. So I think that's the
65:59tough part. I mean Keith Mitchell's, you know, per touch average is up there at the best in the league. I I don't think
66:05McKenz is not gonna use that. Um, so >> there's a reason why they signed him.
66:11>> Yeah. Yeah, he's he's good, man. I'm a huge fan of his game.
66:15>> Well, listen, we're a huge fan of you guys tuning in and we appreciate the fact that you've tuned in regularly as
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