0:02Good morning, Matt Walman. Good morning, people. Good morning, everyone. I'm Bob Harris. He is Matt Waldman. This is the
0:08Feel It [ __ ] podcast. The thing you've been waiting all week for is now here. And God, aren't you lucky, Matt,
0:14how we doing this week? Another round of preseason games in the books. We have some tidbits of news here or there.
0:20Seeing some shifting narratives in some cases. All kinds of stuff going on. How goes the uh the toiling?
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1:59that's that's the basics with it. So, that's what we're doing there. But Bob, I mean, you you were in Las Vegas this
2:06weekend, I saw. And you were what were you drinking? Electrolytes over there. I mean, what's going on? I was drinking a lot of electrolytes
2:11over there. That is a that is a fact. Uh had a blast. Uh wrote in my my one of my
2:17uh So, everyone out there probably knows Richard Christie from the Howard Stern Show. Um, I don't know him from the
2:23Howard Stern Show because I've never seen or heard that show, but I know Richard from his days as a amazing death
2:30metal drummer. Uh, back in the late 1990s, early 2000s, uh, he was with a
2:36band called Death, uh, joyous conglomeration of amazing musicians.
2:42Chuck Schel Diner, uh, the late Chuck Scheliner, a true innovator in the field
2:47of heavy metal music, technical death metal, and Richard was just dominant, filled big shoes in that band of Gene
2:52Hogland and and Sean Reiner. And so, uh, just an amazing guy and and super nice
2:58guy and super into the fantasy football. Uh, had a blast. Hobnobbed with, uh,
3:03with, uh, with tons of fans, tons of analysts. Uh, had a good time. drafted with Dean Kane who played Superman. Got
3:10him to put me got the photo of a strangle hold with me being less Lex Luthther just for tribute for Matt. So
3:15I'll have to send that along. Um uh James Rode Rodriguez. Did he agree with me? Did he agree with
3:21you? He did. He totally agreed with you. James Rode Rodriguez drafted in his sack cancer draft with Dean Kane. Uh he's
3:28super nice guy from Psych. Uh Thomas Ever Scott, everyone in the fantasy community knows he loves to play. super
3:33nice guy and got to got to uh got to have a it was a blast drafting with all these folks and just doing some radio
3:39with Howard Bender there. That was fantastic. So, yeah, a really good time. But now I'm five days behind because I left three days. So,
3:45and now you got to be back here talking to me. Now I got to be back here talking to you. But we do have things to talk
3:50about. We do, right? There were some developments and we'll we'll kind of spin off some of those. Mike Washington uh for the Las
3:57Vegas Raiders suddenly very popular. If you are playing in high stakes leagues or in real time drafts, you saw some
4:05amazing things happen like Ashton Genty who suffered an ankle sprain. The initial reports were a leg injury that
4:12he could not put any weight on. Teammates sang prayers quietly as he left the field. Uh and his ADP
4:19plummeted. He probably fell outside the probably round eight range. I know Sigma Bloom fought seven or eight. Um, and
4:26Mike Washington jumped up into that same range and a little higher. I believe in one uh high stakes baseball that I heard
4:33about. He went in the fourth round. Mike Washington. Well, subsequent to that, we've heard it's an ankle sprain.
4:40Probably a high sprain. We're guessing Adam Hutchson at football guys thinks it could be, you know, minimum of four, but
4:45could be as long as seven weeks out. So, give him a little additional opportunity. Is there any chance Mike
4:50Washington overtakes Ashton Genty this year? Um, no. But I think that there's [clears throat] it's a nonzero chance.
4:57Um, but I think there's a significant chance that he forces a split that does
5:02not get unsplit. Um, you know, and I think that that's mainly because Genty
5:08probably won't be right all year. Um there's and if Washington plays well,
5:14they may feel like that they have a thunder and lightning back field with two guys who have um you know good open
5:22field ability um and that they can they can mix and match. That's probably what might
5:28happen. Um kind of a you know a Jonathan Stewart D'Angelo Williamsesque type of
5:36scenario is what they're hoping for. But Mike's gonna have to hold on to the football. And Mike's and when I've
5:43watched the runs this year, he had that nice run in the first preseason game, but it was a big hole. I wouldn't say
5:50that the vision there was um subtly spectacular in the way that you
5:57need to see that to say, "Oh, that's starter level skill." And then he had
6:02one of those Steve Sllayton runs that I call it that people get all excited about where you run into the back of
6:08somebody and then nobody knows where you are. They lost track of where you are. He doesn't really know where he is and
6:15then he slides to open space and squirts through and people say, "Oh, that was such a great run." It was, but it wasn't
6:22conceptually a great run. So, I mean, I'm not saying that he was bad. I'm just not saying that that run is worthy of
6:29taking him in the fourth round of a of a of a draft, but I understand why people
6:35went to that went to those realms, especially in high stakes where you're going to take a gamble, you know.
6:41Yeah. when you're drafting these drafts, you're seeing real-time fluctuations in ADP and kind of trend setting
6:47fluctuations and often incorrect uh corrections because like
6:52these hills the [laughter] the immediate the immediate news uh is leaves it wide
6:57open. I mean it was entirely possible based on the initial reporting that Dash and Jetty was going to miss the season.
7:03Hell, it still may be. I don't think that's the outcome. People I do think it's an [clears throat] ankle sprain. They say they don't expect him to miss
7:10the whole year, but we'll get official confirmation after he has all the imaging and stuff and and it's wise to wait for that. But I think saying for
7:16right now that he's going to miss a month or more, perhaps up to two months, but but does that move him down into the
7:22Jeremiah Love range for you? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I mean, I think that you're looking at I think he should
7:29probably be he's not going to be this, but I think he should probably be like a seventh or eighth round pick as Bloom
7:35said. I think that that's probably the right spot for him. I think they're going to be people who take him between
7:40rounds four and six and I think they're overpaying mainly because with an ankle sprain it's kind of dicey. It's one of
7:47those deals where you know I remember looking at somebody like Rody White way back in the day on a high ankle sprain
7:54and it's like he came back within a month but he couldn't really play. Um, and you I I think with a running back,
8:01it's going to bleed longer before he gets back on the field and then he's never going to feel completely right.
8:07Um, so it'll be heavily taped, it'll bother him, um, that kind of scenario.
8:14So, we're unless he doesn't come back until like week seven or week eight. Um,
8:21and he's completely healthy and Mike Washington got dinged or something like that, we're, you know, then he might be
8:29that end of the year guy. And you're going to hear I can just hear Sigman saying this and I'm saying this with all
8:34the love in my heart, but I can I've heard this a million times, which is he's that guy that could change your
8:42league after the after the halfway point of the season. That's why you would be drafting him. So, if you can get him at
8:48this space, he's going to be he's he could be a league winner for you. I would say with that team,
8:54right, coming in at in week eight and if that line just gets a little bit banged up,
8:59um it's he could definitely be helpful to you, but I don't think you're going to want to be um going all in on waiting
9:06halfway through the season to, you know, to wait for that supercharger to kick in because it may not. Yeah,
9:13I do think like if you were fortunate enough to draft Mike Washington in the 12th round or
9:19later, you know, early on in the process, if you've been drafting with me out there since February, there there's
9:25a lot of value to me. You probably suddenly have a a viable start early in the season. But as my friend
9:32Vinnie Bonsor, who writes now for the California Post, longtime Raiders coverage guy, says, uh, this just in,
9:38Mike Washington is not Ashton Genty. uh and the possibility of them adding a
9:43piece. There's James Connor has been mentioned. Uh you know, something that kind of would help hold them over and
9:49work in combination with Mike Washington. That's been suggested. So, we'll wait and see. I mean, you know, I
9:55think the I think the rankings will kind of level themselves out. I think Matt's perception of that is is pretty pretty
10:00on point. But, uh yeah, you know, this is the classic example of getting caught up in the moment when we're in this part
10:07of the year. And I think we just outlined there's some merit to that. There's some value
10:13to being caught up in the moment, but also like I was in a uh I was in a in a draft two drafts yesterday ongoing. Uh
10:22one draft the news broke right before I picked. I got Mike Washington. Many curses came my way from the group text.
10:30Uh, in another draft, I had drafted about five minutes before and uh, got Rashad White and there was Pat Thorman
10:37sitting behind me landing the bonus Mike Washington play. So, these things are,
10:42you know, these things play out and if you're out there drafting a lot, you'll see the issues. Uh, just Yeah, just one quick thing. My
10:48advice on this, Bob, would be this is when you have a player go get hurt like
10:54this and and the situation looks murky and you don't know what's going on, just take that back field off the board
11:00unless you're unless you're after round 10. If if you if you're playing in a single draft, right? If you're playing
11:07and you're in the draft that matters most to you or one of your most important leagues,
11:13swerve. [laughter] You don't have to drive through every pothole, right? There's
11:18plenty of room where you were drafting Ashton Genty. You could easily take a Devon Aan,
11:24Chase Brown, Omarian Hampton, you know, any number of players. I love the driving analogy, too, Bob.
11:30This is I am a driver now. I'm an excellent driver. Everyone knows this. Uh, in a related note here, uh, Fernando Mendoza,
11:37uh, he'll start more than 12 games this season. Feel it or [ __ ] it? I'm going to say feel it. I think that
11:43the fact that I think that there's your hatred of Kirk Cousins knows no bounds. Yeah, that's probably it. I think I ran
11:49him over. Um, [laughter] and then back to over twice. Um, but I
11:55still didn't get him. Um, which tells me how bad of a driver I must be. True. Cuz he ain't very mobile. know how to
12:01swerve. Yeah, I don't know. [laughter] But uh I'm trying to hit him and I can't hit him and he's not that adept in the
12:08pocket anymore with that Achilles. But I think that probably that's the thing is that I I think Kurt is a very good
12:14signal caller, very good tactician um or kind of strategic guy in the game, but
12:19his tactical skills at this point are are um kind of waning. And I think that
12:25there is talk, we've seen that that Mendo that that the coaching staff
12:30hasn't ruled out the idea of starting Mendoza this year. Like they've kind of backed off a little bit of the oh, he's
12:38going to he's going to wait and we're going to put Kirk Cousins in there. Um so I think what that says to me is even
12:45though Mendoza threw a pick six, you know, he played well enough that I could
12:51see them going, "Okay, it's mid-occtober. We're 0 and4. We're 0 and five or we're one and you know we're one
12:58and five. Let's go ahead and uh let's go ahead and put Mendoza in here and see what we got and give him a chance. I
13:05think that's probably the likelihood. I think that's what what are we looking at? I've looked at this before. What is
13:11the by-week here? I think that's your that may be something to pay attention to. by week is
13:18uh week 13. Uh so that gives plenty of time for Kirk Cousins if they're losing
13:24and we we'll see like you know we expect them to play better offense. Uh we expect some good things if they're like
13:30ahead or close to 500. Uh I don't know that we'll see any change until
13:36Yeah. until then. So we'll have to see. Kirk Cousins has been out there doing great
13:41work. Everyone knows this except Matt Waldman. Yeah. I I guess this is more wish casting
13:46being the uh the hope that uh Kirk Cousins makes every tight end some percentage better. I'd like to see how
13:53that works with Brock Bowers just to get a taste. I Hey, look, I'm with you and I would like to see the Raiders do well
14:00because I think Fernando and Mendoza, it would be nice to see Kurt Cousins
14:05play 12 games um so that Mendoza can come in maybe for four to six games at
14:11most or not even have to play all year. I think that would be great, but I'm I'm
14:16just not confident about that. And then losing Ashton Genty doesn't help. All [clears throat] right, let's uh kind of
14:22semi related. Deshun Watson named the starting quarterback of the Cleveland Browns. You better not boo him anymore.
14:27Cleveland fans, he doesn't take kindly to that. It's very disrespectful. He'd like you to know. I want to know.
14:33Are you This kind of sounds like those instructions for if you were to commit vandalism on a flock camera. [laughter]
14:42I'm not saying you should. Well, if you've committed vandalism, it's probably been on a flock camera.
14:48This just [laughter] did. Well, it might be against the flot camera. How about that?
14:53I see plenty of that as well. It also is seen by the flot. If you want to destroy one of those
14:59dynamics um you know um animal robots with, you know, I don't know um engine
15:06oil balloon, you know. Um I don't know if we're destroying I just heard one of these robots beat Usain
15:13Bolts 100 meter dash time. We're doomed people. [laughter] We
15:18That's true. Just He did, but you know, I did enjoy him
15:23falling backwards and then his hips exploding. True. That was a good one. All right, back to Deshun Watson. Uh he'll start
15:29more than two games for Cleveland. They open up with a couple pretty tough games on the road. Uh then they come back to
15:35Cleveland. Be a great homecoming for to displace the hated Deshawn Watson and move in Sanders. Feel that or [ __ ] it,
15:43Matt? Um, oh, that that uh that Shadur is going to take over for Deshawn after a
15:49couple of games. Yes, I'm feeling that that's totally a Cleveland thing to have happen. Um, I I
15:55do think probably more likely that Deshawn Watson will play six to eight games. Um, and we'll and we'll see what
16:02happens. If he completely is back, um, it won't matter whether they're booing him or not. He'll just pretend that it's
16:09like a oh, I don't know. um like a a game facing South Carolina or or Wake
16:17Forest or you know back in his days at Clemson and it won't be a big deal. Um
16:23but I would think he's had a few years to weaponize himself against uh against
16:29the the booing that is, you know, that's h that is rightfully happening to him.
16:36and he uh and I don't think it's going to I don't think it'll bother him as
16:41much and he'll continue to handle his sociopathic ways. If that's if what
16:46happened happened is, you know, actually occurred, then he'll uh won't bother him just like a lot of the sociopathic
16:53leaders that we have in our in our country where things don't bother them at all. So, um you know,
16:59we don't remember them after five minutes. Exactly. We don't remember. Exactly. So,
17:04I mean, really, I I would expect that the bigger deal here is who's going to
17:10be the starting receiving core? Will the offensive line hold up? If they do, the
17:16system in place is a good match for what Deshun Watson used to be in theory. Um,
17:21and I think they'll give it six to seven games to find out. Also, he has now been that guy for quite some time. But I would I I do would like
17:28to see that. You know, it's a I mean, the table was set. Jimmy Hasslam came out and, you know, we went from being
17:33the biggest. Yeah. Biggest there you go. The biggest [laughter] miss, you know, in Brown's
17:38history to to hey, I think this guy could start. Is he the biggest miss in Browns H?
17:44Terry or Jimmy Hassl. I think he might be the biggest miss. I don't know. Him and Modell's still the
17:50topper. Okay. Come on, man. Uh, [laughter] a little perspective there, Matt. You see, I have a lot of perspective. Art Modell
17:57told Jim Brown to suck it, and that's why he retired. That's like I mean seriously that's that's the second worst
18:04movie he [clears throat] ever made or let's go to the West Coast. Tyler Bottish the knee injury that he suffered
18:09in the joint practice against the 49ers. They should have left that substation at home. Matt, um it's a blow to the
18:15Chargers offense that has fantasy implications across the board. I feel that. Do you?
18:20Yeah, I'm feeling that. I mean mainly because the center is the glue for the continuity of the offensive line. I
18:26mean, when it comes to helping the quarter make quarterback make line calls, read blitzes, being able to
18:32coordinate with the guards in terms of double teams that are going on there that also affect how the tackles play.
18:38Um, a good center is also the glue for the run game. So, I I think that the the
18:45interior run game when you're talking about gap plays, um, duo, different
18:52types of man blocking, who's the who's the back that's going to get the most of those? Omar and Hampton. Those are
18:59probably the ones that he's going to he's the best match for. So if they don't have a really good center in who's
19:06going to follow up here and be the substitute and even then he may not conceptually be as strong as Tyler
19:12Beadz, then you're you're probably looking at a slight decline in the
19:18ground game in terms of efficiencies. um to add to the fact that it's already going to be a hotand three-way committee
19:24which can often get mismanaged by a coaching staff because just as the guy
19:30is just starting to figure things out, they take his ass off the field and running backs complain about this often
19:36because it is a there is something about getting into the flow of the game. I
19:42know that analytics people don't understand this sometimes when they got their head too far up the assets of a of
19:48a spreadsheet. Um, but there is such a thing as momentum and getting acclimated. And it you may have some bad
19:56carries at first before you start to figure out how to to play what you need
20:01to play, how you need to play the line, um, and how it's blocking, who's getting pushed back more often, who's facing
20:07whom in terms of the assignments within the scheme of those those runs. and then the theoreticists upstairs who are who
20:15are calling to play sometimes don't give enough credence to that. So I'm a little bit worried about that in the passing
20:21game. The quick game shouldn't be as much of a problem. And so we're so I I'd say it's less of an impact on the wide
20:28receivers overall except if you're a big-time deep threat. Um and Justin
20:34Herbert might be a little bit, you know, maybe you take a little bit off the top of his numbers. Yeah, I think uh
20:39checking in with what Matt Dante from Football Guys, our offensive line guy there says. Um Jake Slaughter uh second
20:46round pick who was a very good center in college will move back to center. He was competing at guard. Um but the the the
20:52real point here is they still have their tackles who have played a grand total of three snaps for Sean Slater and Joe Hall
20:59for damn good reason. The bubble wrap is tight. Uh so that you know just having
21:04those two will make a huge difference. I think they'll figure out the middle. By the way, Bottes is uh he suffered ACL
21:10damage, but it doesn't sound like it's a complete tear. So, he is exploring non-surgical options that may get him
21:16back a little bit sooner, but definitely a blow and definitely not great news for anybody. Tyrone Tracy, speaking of not
21:22great news, has not had a great week or so. Um I think he had a fumble in this
21:28last game, whipped on the pass protection. Naji the week before Naji Harris brought in last week. Tyrone
21:37Tracy Jr. is on the Russ roster bubble. Matt Field or Pucket. He's been looking over his shoulder all
21:42week apparently when they found out that Naji Harris was coming to town, but I don't think he needs to be he I mean,
21:49one I hope that that's that his concern about that didn't drive the the lack of
21:55focus in some of the play that that wasn't so hot this week. Um, just
22:00because ho how healthy is Naji Harris really gonna be coming off of a an
22:05Achilles. I'm gonna [clears throat] go back to what and and you know maybe you know
22:10talk is talked with John Harbaugh told us after the initial workout before they signed he said he's not 100%. He's got
22:16it's going to be a bit of a process get him back up to speed and I believe that that makes sense to me right. So yeah
22:22so we'll see. Uh but but the the evidence is not great right. The evidence is not great. whiffed on the
22:29block. Uh led to Jackson Dark going to the injury tent. We bring in one of the
22:35great Harris family members. Uh appreciate that. All the Harris love that we can get. Uh and then second
22:41fiddle behind Devin Singleary on Saturday. This is from Kevin Patrick NFL.com. I mean the litany here is the
22:49the the direction is pretty clear. I I don't know that it's in d is is is that his roster spot's in danger, but
22:55definitely his role. Yes. uh is worth questioning at the moment. So, I feel that as well. Bucky Irving playing in
23:01the preseason is a better side for Kenneth Gay. Gainwell, feel it or [ __ ] it. I'm going to say feel it. Um even though
23:07they want to test, you know, people might say, "Well, we want to see him, you know, on the field and and he's had
23:13these injuries, so it's showing that maybe he's healthy." I think it's more the fact that we want to see really what
23:20his role is going to be and kind of prove to us that he can even stay healthy a little bit in the preseason
23:25some. And also that really the the biggery deal is they're protecting Kenneth Gainwell. I think they're more
23:32it's more about protecting Kenneth Gainwell and and that tells you right
23:37there who the 1A actually might be. Yeah, I think that I think that's a
23:42totally fair assessment. I'll buy into that. Uh I feel that as well. Jakory Crosky Merritt, Rashad White are evening
23:48out in fantasy value. It's been an interesting run, Matt. Uh Krosky Merritt was going ahead of White for quite some
23:54time. Then White moved ahead of him. Now Crosby Merritt's back slightly in the lead I think last time I checked. Uh is
24:01it even Steven feel it or [ __ ] it? I think it's pretty close. I think that the fact that they're talking about uh
24:07Groski Merritt being improving in his receiving skills is probably going to
24:13take a little bit of the the shine off of White's totals. they did for me. And
24:19I saw that the rushing I thought that the rushing distribution was going to be pretty even from the get-go. So if
24:26White's getting a little bit less as a receiver, that evens it out. I still have White a little bit ahead of M right
24:33now. Looking at the ADP, it's like you could get whichever one you like. It's running back 38 for Crosky Merritt. It's running
24:40back 40 uh for Rashad White. And that's kind of flip-flopped back and forth over the last few weeks. Uh based on the
24:47reporting, the most recent reporting is for Crosky Meritt, as Matt mentioned, is glowing. I'm old enough to remember
24:54glowing reports about Crosky Merritt, our guy Bill a year ago where he was the best thing since sliced bread and it
25:00turned out he wasn't right. But we all understand, you know, the post hype sleeper thing. We get too far in front
25:06of our skis on a player and they need their time to develop and learn the craft. and he was not very experienced,
25:12played very little in college uh before coming to Washington. So, or at least the year before. So,
25:17I'd rather be an idiot and build a smart team than be smart and build an idiot team. And I feel like that this is kind
25:23of what we do. Yes. Um as as a result in fantasy football all the time is that in trying to be
25:29smart, we end up being idiots. Well, we try to not just to be smart, but we try to, you know, leverage that
25:34little bit of information maybe we have over our league mates. Uh maybe a little harder than we need to leverage.
25:40Win your league, not your draft. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Bo Nicks, underrated feeler. [ __ ] it. You know,
25:47it's true. I do. I totally agree. Even if I even if I say [ __ ] the Denver Broncos, you know,
25:53but uh but no, Bo Nicks is someone that I'm definitely targeting in drafts. You look at what's going on with Jaylen
25:59Waddle, Courtland Sutton, if Pat Bryant actually is a thing. Um, even if he's not, Evan Ingram, I think in year two,
26:07even though he's older, they're talking about how he's getting winning targets downfield and that they're using him
26:13more often there. I think this is going to be a good passing offense. It's been a good passing offense for the past few
26:18years. Adding Jaylen Wadd is a supercharger effect there to to what they can be, and I think they can um go
26:24toe-to-toe with anybody on offense this year. Yeah, I agree. And don't forget, don't sleep on my guy Courtland Sutton, who is
26:32not going away. People, if you see some of the highlights, listen to listen to the expert, uh, who totally agreed.
26:39He just amen. He amended you right there. He totally did. Marshon Lloyd, uh, his
26:44Edwards Institute visit will help him this season. If you didn't know, he went to a center to figure out why he gets
26:50hurt. We saw Christian Watson do the same thing with his hamstrings. Uh, the Packers are pretty predictable in doing
26:55these kinds of things. Is this actually going to help him this season? Feel it or [ __ ] it? It could, but I'm not totally feeling it
27:01because it's it, you know, after talking with Brandon Angelo, who certainly is an expert in dealing with um high-end
27:08athletes and their injuries and working with them through them, um to help them heal and help train them. He understands
27:14a lot of the mechanisms of what rehab is like. and he'll and he told us on the
27:20podcast last week on the Going Deep podcast on Wednesday night, look, this is apples and oranges. Just because
27:25Christian Watson went there last year doesn't mean that it's going to work for Marshon Lloyd. And the reason why is
27:31that no two injuries and no two healing, no two types of recoveries or no two types of movement skills are alike. And
27:38there's not one template to help you fix that. So, it's a it's really a situation
27:45where they look at what Lloyd has done and go, "We think we think that these
27:50are the issues and we think this is how we might be able to make this better for
27:56you and we'll see if that actually happened when you get on the [laughter] field and if it doesn't, we'll we'll try
28:04again next year." Right. I think fine-tuning finely tuned athletes, already highly tuned athletes,
28:09is a bit of that. I mean, can they do they think they have it figured out? Maybe. Do they have it figured out? Not
28:15necessarily. I mean, all all these things are a bit of a process. It's like Ford versus Ferrari. I mean I
28:21mean, you know, if you saw that movie, I did see that movie. Then you know that basically what's going on here and we were comparing this
28:28to Ty to Jordan Tyson, saying Jordan Tyson's like the Ford car. Um the the
28:34trainers are probably like the the Shelby team. Um, and that the uh and
28:40that the head coach and the and the front office for the Saints are probably more like the Ford company and and all
28:47those [ __ ] uh corporatism people who uh who want to rush these commodities on
28:52the field and get have their way and they don't understand the mechanisms at play.
28:58Well, that seems like a harsh assessment. That's true. It [laughter] probably is true. And and
29:04also football's a funny game, folks. It's a collision sport. All this science in the world isn't going to help you
29:10when somebody smashes into one of your joints at an awkward angle on a random play that happens what 50 times a game.
29:18So, there you have it. Doubters, Matt. There are doubters out there. Look, I'm the Ken Miles of fantasy
29:23football. What do you want me to tell you? [laughter] The doubters out there, are they overthinking uh their naysaying when it
29:30comes to Mr. Jonathan Brooks in Carolina? Feel that or [ __ ] it? I think they have every right to be doubting. My
29:36my buddy Jason Wood probably will be one of those doubters. I have a I have a distinct feeling like at least a mild
29:42doubter. I don't think he's going to be like a total hater. Um but but I think that he will give you the the inside the
29:50lines very very wellought out approach as to why maybe this isn't a good value
29:58to draft him quite as high as that he is. We'll see. Um, but I would I
30:03would say I just look at Chuba Hubard and and I and what I saw
30:09last year and I see how the offensive line is getting better this year in the past couple of years. Maybe not jumping
30:16up as high as it needed to last year as the way people were hoping. Um, but I think that Brooks Brooks to me was a
30:23special talent. He was, you know, he he wasn't as explosive as guys like
30:30Jonathan Taylor or Jir Gibbs or Bejian Robinson, but he was a very smart player
30:37with good explosion. Kind of I don't want to say he was Nick Chub. Nick Chub had underrated
30:43explosive strength. I mean, he was a I would say that it's kind of more like a
30:50Curtis Martin, Terrell Davis type of situation. If you think about those backs in the day, if you're old enough
30:57to remember them, they were uh they were backs who weren't too fast, weren't so
31:02strong, weren't unbelievably agile, but they saw the field so well that combined
31:09with a good line, they were they were as good as any back on the field. And I
31:15would say that's the kind of thing that Jonathan Brooks has in his game. He's
31:21just going to need good enough blocking and a little bit of acclamation time.
31:26And I think he's getting that and it's coming back to him. I'm I'm I don't think he's too high.
31:31Yeah, I think this is the case of where you're looking at the price and the price is rising. I mean, he's moved up into the fifth round now. Does that seem
31:37a little bit riskier than I'd like? Maybe I've already got enough shares at much cheaper prices. you know, if you're
31:43drafting in a league that matters most to you, unlike me, you don't draft a thousand times uh each offseason, so you
31:49can't diversify and and take advantage of that kind of tactic. Um I I think
31:54he's the kind of player where if you're drafting in around five, you can maybe mitigate that risk a little bit later, whether it's Cory Crosky Merritt or
32:00Rashad White, guys will give you solid numbers or at least help you avoid zeros. There are many others uh that
32:05will help you avoid zeros, but but none of them probably have the upside that Jonathan Brooks has if he takes over
32:12this featured role. And look, we're still drafting guys like Bachel Tutin,
32:18Jadarian Price, thinking without knowing what exactly what their role is, we're drafting them right outside of running
32:25back two territory, right from running backs 25 and 26, I think, are where our Totin and Price are going. And I'm not
32:30against that because you're not actually paying for a role that doesn't exist yet. You're paying for a role you hope
32:37to land at a slight discount. So I'm fall for that with a guy like Jonathan Brooks as well. I'm injury agnostic. I
32:44know this has been a chronic injury that does raise my hackles a bit. Uh but they seem like distinct different things and
32:50hopefully he can avoid the issues. Uh, and I I'll say this, I talked to a beatw writer from Carolina last week, uh, Jeff
32:56Hawkins, who was totally like, I don't know, man. It's hard to trust a guy who's had two torn ACL. So, I mean, that
33:03sentiment is out there. The doubters are not hard to find. Um, but but for me, it's not about doubting. It's not about
33:10having high expectations. It's about price and possibility. Yeah. And I think when you're in that range of the draft,
33:15price and possibility are good. Yeah. I mean, Frank Gore had two torn ACLs. Bra would are would tell you and
33:21used to tell us all the years exactly way back then is that if you just tore your ACL you
33:27could tear it multiple times and it doesn't impact you after the recovery period you know and I think that that's
33:34the thing. So he's young enough I'm not worried about that as much. Um, and um,
33:41yeah, Bob Harris, let's go ahead and keep moving on because you could get you could get Derek, you could I still think
33:47right now you could get Derrick Henry, David Montgomery, and make Jonathan Brooks your third back and do that every
33:53other round and get a good receiver in between all of those. Um, and then probably follow that up with Michael
34:00Wilson and, you know, after round five. Jason Wood would not approve of that draft, but I would.
34:05Yeah. Well, that's okay. That's okay because I'm going to beat him with that draft. [laughter]
34:10CD Lamb, the Dallas wide receiver to draft early is feel it or [ __ ] it. I feel like this is a trick question.
34:18I'm going to still say feel it. I I still think that it is. They they've been talking about this Dallas offensive
34:24system, this new system that they feel like is is really dangerous. I think that people look at Pickkins and what he
34:30did while CD Lamb was out and they feel like, oh, he's taken over as the number
34:35one. And I think it's more likely a 1A 1B situation where it's close. Um, but I
34:41would still give the edge to Lamb because Lamb's the most versatile receiver on that core and he's going to
34:46play a lot on the inside. Um, you're still going to get him. He's I still think he is as good of a ball winner um
34:54in tight coverage. Actually, no, he is better significantly better as a ball
35:01winner along the boundary than George Pickkins. And most people would disagree with me about that, but Pickkins still
35:08doesn't get the position that Lamb understands how to get. Um, Pickins is just a big body, so it so it's a little
35:15bit easier to make some clean throws to him that way, but Lamb makes the more
35:21difficult big boy catches and does it with a more technical soundness. And he's better after the catch.
35:28Right. That that's the key for me. I don't think there's anyone better uh at the intermediate crossing patterns where
35:35nobody can keep up with him and nobody can get him down once he has the ball. He's nearly unstoppable in those
35:41situations. I'm like Tim Brown, you know, with a better God, I've haven't remembered him in a
35:46while, but like yeah, he's like kind of like a modern day Tim Brown. Uh Sincere McCormack is on the San
35:51Francisco 49ers at the moment. Um but he struggled to stay out. Who was he with? the San Antonio Ruff Riders or I don't
35:59know, one of the junior college teams of the NFL or whatever they call them. Uh, no disrespect intended to you in the
36:06junior college ranks of the NFL. Um, Sincere McCormack should have been on a roster last year, feel bucket,
36:11I'm going to say feel it. I think what happened is that he had a good run with the Raiders. They brought in a new group. They got rid of him and everybody
36:18around the NFL said, "Well, if it's a running back with the Raiders, we don't really want him." Um, and he's
36:24undersized and they just saw him as probably a guy who's not all that very
36:29good. All not very good, but I think that he's a good depth chart player who
36:34can be plugged in and give you reasonable production in an NFL game in
36:40the regular season. And I know that probably his numbers this weekend were
36:45in, you know, later in the game, but I I could see how the 49ers brought him in
36:52because either a they needed a camp body to try out and just run in this in the second half of things, but he's a smart
36:58runner. And I think that sometimes rosters in the NFL are loaded with fast
37:05runners who are um dumb runners. Not dumb people, but dumb runners. And I
37:11think that sincere McCormack is kind of the the opposite of that. There should be more smart runners on the back of NFL
37:17rosters than dumb runners with speed. Very sincere. Like the robot that ran into the like
37:23that robot that ran into the the padding and then fell down and his hips exploded. I can think of a few runners
37:29who that was an insincere attack. An insincere. Yes, they are the insincere McCormicks of the running back
37:35world. And I want a sincere McCormick of the running back world. spoke with David Harrison who covers the uh red Whoops.
37:43Uh the Commanders [laughter] has for many years, I should have prefaced that with cancel Bob Harris. [laughter]
37:50Okay, go ahead. Uh he told me the like the first week of training camp, and he's been to many of
37:56them, that he had never seen a player have a more effective first day of training camp or impressive than Antonio
38:03Williams did. Um I haven't heard a lot about him since. Will he have an impact this year feeler or [ __ ] it?
38:08I hope so cuz I just dropped his ass further in in the dynasty rankings and projections and didn't see that. Um, so
38:16that would be great. I liked Antonio Williams coming out of the draft. I loved that he could be a scheme
38:21versatile guy who could play inside and outside, but with Stefon Diggs getting into the mix and then them wanting to
38:27run more two tight end sets, it looks like I just felt like, you know, Antonio Williams wasn't really going to be a
38:34main factor in the passing game. And I still don't think that's going to be the case. But I do think that what this was
38:40was a nice add a boy through the media. Um that the coaching staff is probably
38:46saying like just keep working kid cuz and and listen to what Stefon Diggs tells you on the field. Off the field
38:53just stay away from them. But on the field, you know, even players joke around about that. I think, wasn't it
38:58the Minnesota Vikings players who said, "Who's the one who's the one player in your locker room that you would not want
39:04dating your sister?" And they all said Stefon Diggs [laughter]
39:09and he was like, "Who me?" All innocent, you know, but you know, I think that that's um I think Antonio Williams is
39:17probably on the right track, but it might take a little bit longer than this year. Yeah, I would totally agree with that. I think Stefan Diggs switched the fortunes
39:24of a lot of players on that roster who might have been able to build roles in
39:29in his absence are not going to get that opportunity. Now, what about Travis Hunter? Are we going to dump him at the
39:35side of the road and not look back like he was uh some kind of detrious there feeler? [ __ ] it. [laughter]
39:40No, but I'd say wrap him up in plastic and put him in the trunk. Um, you know,
39:46his game, not him. Please, not him. but uh wrap his game up in plastic and put
39:52it in the trunk because it might get a little stinky. But you can you can wash it off with a hose and and put it back
39:59in the front seat if you need to. Um and it will probably serve you very well. But I'm not like if you're in reddraft,
40:06why are you drafting this guy? Like you're hoping unless multiple injuries
40:12he's a late round baseball guy, right? Very late round. Yeah. Now, in Dynasty,
40:19you know, you're not going to get any value trading them. Um, right. So, you you're just going to have to be stuck
40:24with holding on to him. And this was the danger. We we saw this. And I think that part of the problem is that Trevor
40:32Lawrence is not a good deep ball thrower. We're going to see if he's going to get better this year, but he's not. And they've fashioned that offense
40:39around middle of the field throwing, short passing, and some go get go up and get it types of throws. And I know that
40:46people love the acrobatics of Travis Hunter and they remember what he did at Colorado and some of that's really
40:51there. Um, also some of it is that he gets his ass pinned to the sideline way too often for a guy who does that well
40:58at a as a quarterback, but he doesn't do it very doesn't do well of avoiding it as a receiver. he gets bullied and we're
41:05gonna have to show signs of him being able to not to get bullied and for Trevor to throw it downfield to him
41:11accurately enough for that to all work out at its maximum level. He's good in the middle of the field, but they have
41:17enough guys who are good in the middle of the field and who are more experienced route runners. So, as much as I like Hunter's promise as anybody
41:24else, if he were put in a wide receiver position, he's not going to be unless, you know, unless um the car backs up
41:32over the wide receiving core and now you've got to pop him out of the trunk and get the hose,
41:38right? This is one where you need to understand the desired outcomes. Obviously, the draft capital expended to secure his services. They have a unique
41:45role in mind for him, but I don't think it has to be immediate. I don't think they're doing this is they need to get
41:51extract all that value, all that cost that they put into Travis Hunter in the
41:56first season, the second season, the third season. This is a long-term play. Uh we heard earlier this year how the
42:02usage would be more likely heavy on defense this year because that was more their need. Uh so yeah, I think none of
42:08this is surprising nor none of it determinative of future outcomes. Uh he's a talented player. Apparently he
42:14got much bigger over the off season as well. Looks really good. has made some amazing catches uh from according to
42:20those who have watched him make them. Yeah. Uh so so you know still a player but but I think defense was going to be
42:26his role all along. We should have listened to uh James Gladstone when he told us this in January. I believe it was January
42:3316th. He made the words uh and and and and
42:38we've heard reporting back and forth after oh well they're not going to use it. We heard this people. It's been
42:43rehashing of rehashes. So, uh, so yeah, the the expectations been set and if if
42:49it falls outside that, great. But you shouldn't be drafting like that's going to happen. Now, you mentioned a fellow,
42:54uh, a [clears throat] great rookie scouting portfolio uh, win over time.
43:00Uh, recently retired this recently this past week. Nick Chub, uh, is he a Hall
43:06of Famer feeler, [ __ ] it. Um, he is he is definitely a talent who
43:13is Hall of Fame worthy. And I would say that's the answer. It's unfortunate. You know, could I make the
43:20argument that he was every bit as good as a Terrell Davis or a Floyd Little who
43:25the Denver Broncos fan base pushed hard to uh get into the Hall of Fame. And
43:32yes, Chub got the magic 2,000 yards and a super and a couple of Super Bowls. that will probably that those resume
43:39points will help him. So, you know, for the dafted football writers out there
43:45who vote on this stuff, not all the football writers are daffed, just some of them. Yes, they are. Okay. Okay. Well, some am I, but
43:52whatever. All the Daffy Ducks out there um who will not vote on him because he didn't have resume points, but they
43:58didn't watch his film um or don't understand how to watch his film close enough. Um, if you watch his film, you
44:05can see that he's a Hall of Fame caliber talent. Um, but and they'll argue the
44:11five yards per carry, you know, and the exclusive club that he was in um to be
44:18able to as a good argument point of argument for him. Um, but they will
44:23probably talk about maybe he his receiving yardage wasn't high enough, so he wasn't as really a complete player or
44:31that he just didn't play long enough and he didn't lead them to Super Bowls. Um, so, you know, he he at best he's a
44:39veterans committee pick most likely at some point. Um, and there will be plenty of players that I will see if I go back
44:46and visit the Hall of Fame one day again that I'll look and go, "Yeah, Nick Chub belongs in here." if that guy's in here,
44:52but it's not going to happen. Just in 49ers owner Jed York arrested in
44:58Ohio over the weekend on misdemeanor counts of disorderly conduct possessing criminal tools. That'll be a story to
45:04come out later on. Might even overshadow the great substation that dominates the [laughter] news in San Francisco.
45:10Do you think he was trying to break into Jimmy Hasslam's house? Maybe. You know, maybe I might become a Jed
45:17York fan. Let's see. Or Mike Browns. Mike Browns. [laughter] That's true, too. Or the Hall of Fame.
45:24Maybe he maybe he has a fetish for a statue. I don't know. [clears throat] The uh the mug shot is
45:30on point. Is he It looks like he'd been roughed up a little bit.
45:36But he looks a little forlorn. Let's just put it that way. Junior. Okay.
45:41All right. All right, everybody. That's it for this week's edition of Feel It or [ __ ] It. We'll be back next week to feel and [ __ ] more things. The season will
45:47have drawn nearer. we will be getting down to the uh really hardcore preparations and we'll help you uh sort
45:54some things out as we find them. Uh in the meantime, Matt, what are you looking for on the rookie scouting portfolio in
45:59coming days or also at football guys? A picture of Dean Kane with Lex Luthther in a headlock to start. I want to see
46:06that. Um and then I mean look rankings updates. I'm going to be doing I think
46:11this week is the all gut check team. I think that's probably what I'm going to be doing. Or guys that e it's either
46:18that or um players I'm not drafting. Something along either one of those
46:23lines um will be in that. And then uh let's see. Football guys. Um we did, you
46:30know, that's that. And then rookie. Oh, see there we go. There we go. That's not
46:35bad. That's not bad. You look, you've got that smile like you know that that Superman's
46:42he he doesn't realize you've got kryptonite in your back pocket. It's just Yeah, he he only plays Superman.
46:48Yeah, [laughter] that's true. I've also seen him some other roles that he plays and he wasn't
46:53so super as in in [laughter] as in terms of a Superman. He was some
46:58he was he wasn't very nice. Um, I didn't mean he wasn't super in the role, you know, but uh, of course he was, you
47:04know, but yeah, we look, we're all gonna be busy. We're all gonna be giving you good content and uh, and [clears throat]
47:10if you didn't get the RSP rankings projections update, pay $24.95 and
47:15you'll get it within 24 hours of when you bought it. All right, that's it for us. Love you,
47:21Matt. Love you. Bye. Bye.