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Feel It or F--k It 5.4.26: An RSP Podcast with Bob Harris and Matt Waldman

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May 4, 2026
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Antonio WilliamsCarsen RyanDavid NjokuDeAndre HopkinsDiego PaviaDrew AllarElijah MitchellEmanuel WilsonJerry JeudyJonathon BrooksMyles Montgomery
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Antonio Williams

PositiveProjection20:15

Antonio Williams is a very good fantasy asset, not overrated. He projects as at least the wide receiver three on the Lions and will likely be the second or third most productive receiver on the team. Comps include Randall Cobb and Jayden Reed—a long-time scout noted Cobb as the player he was reminded of when watching Williams. If the Lions run a Detroit-style offense (similar to their recent scheme), Williams could play an enhanced Jayden Reed or Amon-Ra St. Brown type of role, potentially making him a high target-count player. He has a shot to start off like Terry McLaurin in his new offense.

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Carsen Ryan

PositiveSleeper33:28

BYU tight end drafted 248th overall by Cleveland Browns in 2026. Bob Harris evaluates him as a potential dynasty league free-agent pickup with significant upside contingent on playing weight. If he maintains college weight of 250–255 lbs, Harris ranks him second only to Sam Rauch as a blocker in the class and notes he can catch, run routes, and generate skill after the catch. Harris projects him as a middle-class or potentially better version of David Njoku if deployed as a technician rather than a straight-line route runner. Harris notes pre-draft enthusiasm diminished after learning he weighed 235 pounds at a workout, suggesting weight loss from his college-listed 245 pounds may have contributed to his late-round slide and raises durability/strength concerns. Harris states: "I'm definitely keeping my eye on Ryan."

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David Njoku

NegativeRole33:40

David Njoku is departing the Cleveland Browns. Bob Harris uses Njoku as a comparison point for evaluating tight end prospects, noting that Njoku's primary usage pattern was as a straight-line route runner rather than a full-fledged technician.

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DeAndre Hopkins

PositiveRole18:03

Matt Waldman is 'totally on the DeAndre Hopkins train' and says he saw nothing last year to dissuade him from thinking Hopkins can still play. Hopkins looked like his usual dominant self early in the season and is excellent in the slot, which is his best possible fit. Waldman argues Hopkins can still win at the catch point against tight coverage and operate against zone coverage. Placing him in Cincinnati's third receiver role would be 'absolutely magical,' as the slot role is ideal because getting separation on the outside might be tougher for him than before.

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Diego Pavia

PositiveValue29:55

Pavia signed a 3-year deal with Baltimore with no guaranteed money, structured as a consequence of off-field concerns but signaling team confidence in his talent. Matt Waldman rates him as one of the top five quarterbacks in the 2026 class outside of off-field issues, making him a potential value as a backup/future starter if he "behaves himself."

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Drew Allar

NegativeProjection3:15

Bob Harris argues that the rationale to 'buy into' Drew Allar because Penn State limited him is flawed; if Penn State didn't use him to his capability, that suggests he's even less ready for the NFL, not more. Matt Waldman doesn't have a strong or even bad grade for him—the grade is that poor. Waldman expects Will Howard to start before Drew Allar and cautions that even if Allar has a good first few games, historical examples like Will Levis and Marcus Mariota show that early performance doesn't make a career; he needs 18–30 games to demonstrate his actual NFL ability. Harris advises most fantasy owners to avoid him in drafts unless they are trade-savvy GMs confident in a sell-high window, as early playing time for rookie QBs typically leads to rushed deployment and worse outcomes.

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Elijah Mitchell

NegativeDepth Chart14:12

Mitchell was released by the Patriots this week after stints with San Francisco and Kansas City; his release suggests either durability concerns or that New England feels confident in their other running back options, opening depth chart opportunity for Miles Montgomery.

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Emanuel Wilson

PositiveProjection22:07

Wilson showed fantastic production when given opportunities in Green Bay last year and will be a factor in Seattle, likely staying that way throughout the season. He is a good all-around running back. The Packers chose Chris Brooks over Wilson, possibly for financial reasons, with the separation between them being minimal. In Seattle, Wilson will likely operate in a committee with J'Darien Price leading the way, but Wilson should get enough touches to have fantasy value.

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Jerry Jeudy

PositiveProjection15:15

Matt Waldman says 'f--k it' on Jeudy as Cleveland's bell cow receiver despite GM Andrew Berry's public assurance, citing Jeudy's track record of inconsistent production and susceptibility to outside motivation. Waldman notes Jeudy's tendency to be talented but underperform or coast after strong seasons, and suspects Berry's statement is motivational rather than factual. With Jameis Winston at QB, Waldman expects target distribution to spread around rather than concentrate on one receiver like it did with Michael Thomas in New Orleans, so Jeudy could have a good year but won't rebound to his prior production levels.

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Jonathon Brooks

NegativeValue27:12

Brooks offers significant contingent upside in best-ball formats at RB47 (round 11 ADP). Pre-injury at Texas, he was the best back in his class, rivaling Bijan Robinson with better contact balance, speed, quickness, and excellent vision. The buy case is his elite pre-injury profile; the sell case is two years without game action and uncertainty vs. Chuba Hubbard. Bob Harris emphasizes he has "tons of upside" and "all the ability" to outperform his price. In best ball, his upside if he wins the job outright justifies the ADP given the contingent upside and depth of RBs drafted ahead of him. Harris frames investing cheap shares in Brooks as "a good path to potential success," noting the Panthers' emphasis on "violent" running backs aligns with Brooks' profile.

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Myles Montgomery

PositiveDepth Chart14:00

Elijah Mitchell's release by the Patriots this week opens depth chart opportunity for Miles Montgomery. Mitchell's release suggests either durability concerns or that New England feels confident in their other running back options. Montgomery likely moves from running back six to running back five on the depth chart, gaining more reps and one less body to compete with, though the team could still add another back.

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Episode Transcript

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0:02For the second time this morning.
0:06Hi everybody. I'm Bob Harris, he's Matt Waldman. We're here for the Field Your Bunker Podcast and so are you.
0:11Uh and that's great news. You're also probably here because you are familiar with the Rookie Scouting Portfolio. The post-draft version is now available for
0:18download. Uh I've been perusing it this very morning. Tons of great information in there as always. Matt, tell everybody about it.
0:25>> Yeah, you're going to get I don't know, somewhere between 120 and 150 pages worth of information cheat sheet that's a few pages long that covers 220
0:33prospects. You're going to they have um you know, kind of different symbols that give you a shorthand for determining where you should draft these guys cuz
0:42it's a tier cheat sheet that also gives you values based on the ADP analysis I've done of about nine drafts um where
0:50I link you to the drafts and you can look at those and complete them if you want to with the chart that I provide so
0:55that you >> Hey Jady.
0:57>> you can do different work yet page 80, there you go. So you can kind of do some additional homework. You can even add in
1:02some of your own leagues into the columns that are available there. I gave you a few to do that with. Um but you're
1:08also going to get analysis good fit, bad fit, overrated, underrated, um long-term guys. I give you some strategic ideas especially in a draft like this where
1:19you know, a lot of people feel it's a bad draft and you're probably not going to be able to um trade for 2027 picks as easily as you
1:27would in you know, in previous years for the next year's pick. Um so I kind of give you ideas of what to do if
1:33everybody's stingy about holding on to their um subsequent year picks and give you some rationale in terms of why and where I think some of the hidden
1:42strengths of this class might be and the hidden values can be so that you can um leverage picks that you have and and
1:49face the reality of the situation at hand. Um so you you get this with the RSP pre-draft which was 1,267 pages of
1:59goodness. Uh Choose your own adventure.
2:01Everything's bookmarked in both of these in these products so you can, you know, really choose your own adventure. The pre-draft I think is at best for the
2:09waiver wire and long-term outlooks for players. I think the the post-draft is the best for the faux long-term outlook that dynasty managers tend to have in
2:20terms of we all react to new information. So, um I find that you know, it's actually, you know, we I advertise it as more of the
2:30now we see what the fit is, but it tends to be a little more reactionary than what talent actually shows you
2:35long-term. So, you kind of get the best of both worlds with it.
2:38>> Yeah, I think I think that's true. I I, you know, I use the pre-draft to catch up on everything I didn't know because I
2:46didn't watch college football. Right? I have no idea. I'm starting cold and there's no better way to dive deep into this. Um but also, you know, you learn a
2:54little bit about what scheme fit, you know, what the possible scheme fits are.
2:57Now that we have the post-draft, I think that to me is the is the piece of the puzzle that makes it all work and and
3:02you throw it in there that tier cheat sheet is fantastic. So, tons of great content in there. If you haven't looked
3:06at it, go look at it now. I demand that you do that because you will be very happy with me. And I'm Bob Harris. I
3:12approve that message. Hi.
3:15With that out of the way, let's go on to feeling our pockets of things. And I almost feel like I'm setting you up to
3:20destroy somebody here. Drew Allar, his team limited him and that's a good reason to buy into him. Feeling our pocket.
3:25>> Yeah, I think that's a bad rationale. I mean, I think, you know, we're rooting for Drew Allar even if I don't have a
3:31strong grade for him. I don't have a good grade for him at all. Um I don't even have a bad grade for him. It's that
3:36bad. Um so, it but the idea that you're going to um justify the pick of him by saying
3:45that Penn State really didn't use him in the best possible way for how many years that he was there?
3:52That just kind of says to me now he's even less ready because it if they they didn't use him to his
4:01capability we never saw his capability. And so to me it's kind of an illogical statement to make.
4:10Now maybe because at the same time you could say well, NFL coaches might say, Mike McCarthy might say that he wasn't
4:17used to his ability.
4:19Um Is that that's rooted in practice? Um that's rooted in workouts against air?
4:26I mean what's what's the basis for that?
4:28So I hope that he's right and I hope that Drew Allar proves me wrong in terms of you know, his career and he has an
4:35awesome career but I'm more inclined to think that you know, we'll probably see Will Howard before we see Drew Allar and if we do
4:43see Drew Allar first and he has a good first few set of games. I mean, let's just remember Will Levis and Marcus
4:51Mariota. A few games does not make a career.
4:54So So we've got to we we got to take a patient approach with him. Give him, you know, probably 18 to 30 games to really
5:03start to show what he is and then we can kind of go from there. But at this stage the rationale makes no sense.
5:10>> So let's just put it this way though. Yeah, I mean you're not high on Drew Allar yet. He is in a
5:16fortuitous opportunity, right? I mean, he maybe is a in line to to be a starting quarterback for an NFL team. How do you balance
5:23those two things out when you're drafting?
5:25>> Um I think for me when it comes to other positions, I tend to be a little bit more open to that possibility. Say like
5:33Dez On Stribling. He's probably going to have an opportunity to see significant playing time. So I'm going to bump that up because I think that there's a
5:42especially if I think there's a good fit there. But at quarterback, I don't change very much because, you know, whether it was Will
5:50Levis or Malik Willis or Drew Drew Drew Lock or Zach Wilson or any of these guys or Desmond Ridder, any of these guys
6:01that got early playing time, what tends to happen is that these players get rushed into it because of the initial sunk cost that owners put into this and
6:11they want to see their rookie play sooner than later. So, it's actually it makes things worse more often than not and these guys, maybe they get an early
6:20opportunity and my recommendation usually to people is that if you're a trade savvy GM and you want to draft them because you
6:28can sell high on them and you think there's a chance that you'll have a sell high window and you'll recoup more
6:34picks, then sure, take that chance. But if you're like most people who don't fashion themselves, you know, it's like the gun owners who fashion themselves,
6:44um that they're going to be James Arness and Gunsmoke, you know, and they they you know, they lean back in their bed
6:51and the shotgun is in the in the headboard and they're going to you know, they're not going to shoot their wife or
6:56shoot themselves in in the foot when they do the fancy maneuvering. I mean, then yeah, I mean, I think that Allar's
7:03on that end of the spectrum. It's the safer play to avoid him. Yes. It's just it's just better to >> Pretty old for the listeners to get
7:12>> I I just want to say it's I mean, it's fair to say though that teams often I mean, people can
7:18view prospects very differently, right?
7:21Uh and maybe the Steelers see Drew Allar differently. You mentioned a couple things that I want to tie that into the
7:25San Francisco 49ers and DeShawn Stripling probably went higher than he was expected. The 49ers seem to view players differently and we saw that.
7:33Kyle Shanahan had Caleb Black uh as the second-rated back on the board.
7:38He said the 49ers had that. Uh I How do you feel about that or or [ __ ] it?
7:43>> I'm feeling it. Um and I think it's because when you watch Kylin Blacks game, he's very aggressive through a crease.
7:51He attacks creases at the earliest point. He really anticipates the blocking well, especially on off tackle plays, off tackle zone, inside zone. The
8:03types of plays that the 49ers run well.
8:06And on top of that, he's a good blocker.
8:08He finishes strong. And when you think about I've seen some comparisons to him to Trey Sermon because of his speed.
8:16Like first of all, like let's talk about comparisons real quick.
8:20I you know, there's lots of ways that they can be made, but I think that for me, I prefer to make comparisons where
8:28there's a physical body type in addition to a stylistic um way of playing that match the player you're comparing him
8:37to. If you're comparing a player like Kylin Black who's not as big as Trey Sermon, um to that guy because they're both
8:47slower, I I just feel like that that's kind of a shallow comparison point. Um so, you you know, for me, you and they're not
8:58they're very different. Kyle, you know, Trey Sermon where I erred with uh Trey Sermon in my analysis of him fitting the
9:05scheme is that he was a much more patient runner behind and he didn't attack as hard early enough. And that was the sticking point
9:17with him with Kyle Shanahan is that in contrast, they had Elijah Mitchell who while he wasn't a zone runner in school,
9:25he he translated well to Shanahan style of zone running because he hit creases hard and he once he saw or anticipated
9:34where the opening would go, he he really zoomed through that and he didn't mind running through people's faces in order to um get to where that crease is
9:44supposed to be. And that's more Kalen Ballage style. So, I sit I I get how Shanahan and company valued him as the
9:53best possible fit for their board. And we'll see what Jordan James is. I mean, I really liked Jordan James last year,
10:00but where Ballage might have the edge over Jordan James right now, based on what we've seen of James, is that Ballage is a very decisive
10:09anticipatory runner who is violent at the collision point. Whereas, I think James was a more versatile player overall, maybe a a a more creative
10:20player overall, but we haven't seen the the iteration of James, the most recent iteration of James. The most iteration recent iteration of Ballage we've seen
10:31was from, you know, December. James really didn't play last year. So, you know, didn't get a lot of playing time if at all. So, the off season is
10:41probably a point where he probably also learned a lot and worked on his game a fair bit. And we may see a different
10:47iteration of them. So, I would say it's a pretty close call between these two backs, but I um I would might give the
10:54edge to Ballage right now, based on what we've seen most recently.
10:59>> It's interesting you brought up a picture there. And and maybe part of the concerns is the, you know, the 49ers
11:04often miss on these mid mid-tier backs in the draft. And they have but they're looking for something. They So, you can't underestimate
11:12And and like I've read varying things where the scouts often are at odds with the coaching staff on these players and who
11:19they take. And the coaching staff tends to win out. I'm going to I'll just say there, if you go out on your X device or
11:24whatever and search Mike McDaniel, Chris Foerster, there's a great like 5-minute video of my old high school teammate Chris Foerster and and McDaniel talking
11:34about how they put together a game plan and what's involved and what they're looking for. This all goes back to Mike
11:41Shanahan, their time together in Washington. And And so, it's just really interesting and it and it kind of informs on how they look at players a
11:48little better than than they are a little differently than other teams. So, >> Yeah, and just to just to add real quick
11:53to this, cuz I think it's a great point, is that you can see if they hit on black, and I think that they will be
12:00closer to hitting on him than some of the failures they had, it's because of what they've learned in the past. Kyle
12:07Shanahan wanted um you know, um what was his name? Tevin Coleman in Atlanta. And Coleman was an outside zone runner, so he picked
12:16outside zone runner, but Coleman was not a good outside zone runner. So, they ended up he ended up they force-fed Coleman until he failed and they put
12:25Devonta Freeman in there and then Coleman started to get better. And then they went with you know, when they went with uh Sermon they rolled the dice with
12:33Sermon, you know, I think that was Lynch more than it was Shanahan. And then when at the same time though, if it was
12:41Shanahan, they went with a guy that they they saw what Elijah Mitchell did. And they weren't they they picked a guy who
12:49ran gap schemes. And I think he saw that what his style of offense was about maybe was easier to find runners who
12:58could execute it in that way with a gap scheme back, even though that was an outside zone, because sometimes the way certain teams use backs, they
13:09don't they they tweak their scheme a little bit differently than what you might find on Google. For instance, Iowa with Tyler Goodson, they wouldn't allow
13:18him to make cutbacks in his scheme. Uh in their scheme. They wanted their guys to just hit the front side all the time,
13:26which eliminated um a high-end ability of a player in terms of what he could possibly do, but they wanted they wanted a certain
13:34level of discipline with how they approach things, and they frowned upon that stuff. So, you know, there's a lot of nuances involved with this.
13:43>> Yeah, and it it is interesting, you know, some reporting about, you know, some of the behind-the-scenes reporting suggesting, you know, how those arguments go and how
13:51somebody wins out over somebody else.
13:52It's It's It's interesting stuff. And then And then Elijah Mitchell happens, and it doesn't matter at all. Uh Mitchell released by the Patriots this
14:00week. He's been to San Francisco, Kansas City, now the Patriots release him. Is that a good step first step for Miles
14:06Montgomery uh to maybe become the eventual running back three in New England, field or [ __ ] it?
14:11>> I feel it. I mean, it's an early step, but it's nice to see that, you know, I mean, for for Mitchell it stinks, and
14:18maybe it's cuz Mitchell just can't stay healthy, and maybe they feel like that That might have more to do with it, but
14:25at the same time, it just means one less body to be um have to compete with. So, Montgomery now is probably what, running back five,
14:33probably on the on the depth chart rather than running back six. And so, more reps for him as as a result of
14:40that, they don't have to worry about Mitchell being in the mix. Now, if they add another running back, you know, in
14:46New England within the next week to compete with him, you know, he's probably in the same spot, but I'm I'm, you know, looking at that letting go of
14:55Mitchell might also be a fact that they looked at minicamp and I said, "You know what? We got enough guys that we feel
14:59pretty good about."
15:00>> For sure. And, you know, let's develop somebody There's a body of work that we have on Mitchell that they have to to go with,
15:07and maybe that they don't have on Montgomery then. Uh Jerry Jeudy, we have a a great body of work with from which
15:13to work with him. Uh with with Jameis Winston?
15:17Praise be. Without Jameis Winston?
15:20Uh So, now he shows up uh, you you have KJ Hamler and Denzel Mims uh, show up in, uh, in Cleveland in the
15:27first and second round respectively. Um, GM Andrew Berry said this will have no impact on, uh, Jerry Jeudy. He's still the bell cow uh, wide receiver.
15:38Uh, are you buying into that? Feel or it, Matt?
15:40>> I would like to say feel it just because I think Jeudy at his best is capable of that type of production, but based on
15:48track record, I'm going to say [ __ ] it because Jerry Jeudy has been known to listen to outside voices an awful lot.
15:55Um, Steve Smith for instance, when Steve Smith criticized him, um, you know, Jeudy took a little bit of umbrage to that and then was motivated a
16:03bit to try and be better, but Jeudy's tended to be have a profile of a very talented player who doesn't always play up to his
16:12potential or he's good one season and then when the things he can rest on his laurels a bit. And I wonder if this is a
16:19little bit of often times after the draft with veterans or second year players in the spring, we hear from coaches and GMs give little
16:29excuse me, public attaboys to players that they feel like need a little motivation. And I could see how Andrew Berry is giving a little
16:38bit of an attaboy to Jerry Jeudy, but more importantly, you you mentioned the key thing, Jameis Winston. Jameis Winston, when it comes time to target
16:47his primary receiver, it's the it might be the only receiver on the field sometimes. I mean, he's going to pepper those guys. It's not even pepper, it's
16:56like scotch bonnet pepper those guys in terms of what he does. I mean, I remember when he had Michael Thomas in
17:03in New Orleans and the for the the games Thomas was healthy, Thomas would have been the runaway wide receiver one after
17:11the first few weeks of the season based on how often he was getting targeted.
17:16And I they don't have that in, you know, they're we're not going to see that kind of peppering. We're going to see it
17:21spread around a fair bit. So, Judy could have a good year, but I don't think he's going to rebound to the tune of what he
17:27had with James.
17:28>> Yeah, I feel like Andrew Berry might be leading us on a bit and and diminishing, you know, kind of setting a a reasonable
17:35expectation for the two rookies coming in. I will say this, Judy has been working out in Florida with Deshaun Watson. Uh so, that can't hurt him at
17:43all if Deshaun Watson is going to be the starter in Cleveland, which is the trajectory we're on right now. I don't
17:50know why you leak it out that, you know, he is not unless he is unless you're trying to motivate Cedrick Sanders, who
17:55seems plenty motivated to me. So, we'll see how that plays out there in the uh great city of Cleveland, that great
18:03storied franchise, the Browns. Um DeAndre Hopkins uh uh has been talking about playing in Cincinnati. Would he be a relevant player in the slot there, feeler or [ __ ]
18:13it?
18:14>> [ __ ] yeah. I'm still I'm still totally on the DeAndre Hopkins train. I did not see anything last year that dissuaded me
18:21from thinking the guy still can't that the guy can't play other than the fact that they didn't want to use him as much
18:27as they should have. I mean, early in the season, he looked like the total badass he's always been, you know, making tight coverage plays when they
18:34needed. Um he's excellent in the slot.
18:38That's probably best where his best possible fit um because he's going to operate against zone coverage and he's going to have to and he can still win at
18:46the catch point against tight coverage when the ball's in the air. You know, getting separation on the outside might be a little tougher for him than what it
18:55was.
18:57Again, all indications didn't show it was that much of a of a difficulty last year in limited time. So, to be able to
19:04put him in that third role where they hoped Jermaine Burton, Charlie Jones, Andre Iosivas would possibly um
19:13be assets at one point. Right. I think Hopkins there would be absolutely magical.
19:20>> Yeah, the numbers compare favorably to Andre Yoshi who's there in the slide.
19:23Now, also maybe would give them an opportunity. I mean, he can still play outside. They can move Jamar Chase around more and I think that's one of
19:30the big goals there. Uh the Ravens as last team added some heft to their receiving core in Jacobe Lane and Elijah
19:38Serratt, but also at tight end where they do have a need behind Mark Andrews.
19:42Matthew Matthew Hibner could succeed Mark Andrews as Baltimore as the main tight end weapon. Feel or [ __ ] it.
19:47>> I feel it. I think that that's very possible, especially when they mentioned this week that they felt like he could
19:53become a major weapon for them. Um the the strength in Hibner's game is his ability win up the seam to be able to
20:00make plays in the in the intermediate and vertical zones. He tracks the ball fairly well. Um catches the ball against contact well. Um so, and he's not a bad
20:11blocker. He's just got to get a little He's He's just going to you know, have to acclimate the same way you know,
20:17Andrews and Charlie Kolar did. And I think he can do that. So, he's a sneaky good you know, kind of mid to late pick
20:24depending on the type of format that you're in scoring wise.
20:28>> All right, Antonio Williams. You hate him. Feel or [ __ ] it. No.
20:35I went too far with that one. Uh let's just say he's an overrated fantasy asset. Feel or [ __ ] it.
20:39>> Yeah, [ __ ] it. I think he's a very good fantasy asset. Um I think the Randall Cobb Jayden Reed kind of comps I had a
20:46Jayden Reed comp. There's a long time scout apparently um who noted that it was that Randall Cobb was the player he was reminded of when
20:57he saw Antonio Williams. Either way, you're looking at a slot flanker who's going to play in an offense that I that uses it. And so, that's great and I
21:07think that, you know, maybe Luke McCaffrey is ready to go in year three.
21:12Um but I think that Williams is probably someone that will at least be wide receiver three on this team. Um and I
21:20think that he'll wind up being the third most second or third most productive receiver on the team.
21:26>> Yeah, and the post your good post draft RSP, he has a shot to start off the Terry McLaurin in his new offense. Does
21:33the David Blough is this Detroit offense in for many of this for you?
21:37>> Um yeah, I mean, that's a good it's a very good point with that because if it is indeed the Detroit offense,
21:44then you're looking at Williams playing that role of a of an enhanced kind of Jayden Reed role or Amon-Ra St. Brown
21:52type of role. And that that could make him a high, you know, target count player. And I think that that's, you
21:59know, that's worth investing in.
22:01>> Okay, fair enough. Emanuel Wilson, we saw when he had opportunities last year in Green Bay, he was fantastic. Now he's
22:07in Seattle. I know J'Darien Price is the player we wanted to see get all the opportunities. I don't think he will. Um
22:14Emanuel Wilson will be a factor in Seattle, feel it or [ __ ] it.
22:16>> At least early in the season, I believe it. And I think that he'll stay that way throughout because he's a good all
22:22around running back that the the Packers just decided that they like Chris Brooks better maybe from a financial standpoint and that
22:31that the separation between them wasn't as great as it you know, cuz it was kind of like tomato tomato when you put those
22:38guys in um into the lineup and they split time. And I guess they felt like, "We'll stick with Brooks and we can uh
22:46and we can let Wilson go." And Wilson, I think, is going to be a nice asset for this team where it'll probably be a
22:52committee. I think Price will probably lead the way, but Wilson will probably get enough say with touches that he could have some
23:00fantasy value for you.
23:02>> That seems reasonable enough. Emmit Johnson, the player you liked in the pre-draft, goes to Kansas City where Andy Reid has
23:10has compared the agility of Johnson to that of one LeSean McCoy.
23:16Feel that or [ __ ] it.
23:17>> Well, I mean, how am I going to disagree with Andy Reid when he had LeSean McCoy all those years, right?
23:22>> one, man.
23:22>> You know, I'm not disagreeing with him on that. I mean, come on. But, I I think what's interesting about that, what I'm
23:28feeling about this particular angle, Bob, is that Reid is um you know, noting his change of direction quickness, his agility at What did What
23:39was Emmit Johnson banged on the most pre-draft? For For that very thing because he ran a slow three-cone drill time, and we talked about how it just
23:49didn't match up one-to-one with what you saw on film. And so, I think this is a great example of that.
23:56>> All right. Well, Jayden Otts there as well. What can we expect from him working um with behind the starters there and and uh
24:06and Johnson in Kansas City?
24:08>> Well, I mean the the running back coach, I think, vouched for him because he was Ott's coach at California. Um
24:16and so, there was so, there's that. Um but I watched Ott at Cal when he was having his best season, and I got to be honest
24:26that that was most of what I watched when I evaluated him. And I wasn't highly impressed with his skills. I thought
24:33that he was a good um shallow box runner, you know, five five, six in the box at most. He was good
24:41there, but when you started to give him, you know, seven or eight in the box, that's where he really faltered. He
24:46wasn't good in traffic. Um he's good open field player, um but you know, he's at best third on on depth chart, and I don't think he's going to
24:56be third. I think he might be stay on the depth chart because of his special team prowess. Have him return kicks. I
25:04think that's where they'd probably vouch for him the most.
25:07Um and so I don't think he's a threat to Emeka Johnson really at all.
25:12>> It's a deep class this year with the awful linebackers. CJ Allen could be the best IDP rookie in 2026. Feeler [ __ ] it.
25:19>> I'll totally feeling that. This guy is a pro's pro in terms of as a prospect. Um comes downhill really well, can work side to sideline very
25:28well, and he's just another one of those Georgia guys who who on defense who understands the game. And he's going to
25:36be put in the middle, and he's going to be their focal point for this off for this um Colts offense or Colts defense, excuse me. So, yeah,
25:46I'm taking him.
25:47>> So, when are you taking him?
25:49>> I in an IDP league, I mean, I could see second round.
25:54>> I mean, let's say this. Let's say you're in the middle of the first round, asking for a friend.
25:59Your pick's coming up at sixth overall.
26:01You're looking at possibly the three receivers not named Carnell Tate, and you're looking at CJ Allen. You're I'm four picks away. Or he, that guy,
26:10>> Yeah.
26:10>> the person I'm talking about.
26:12>> Another IDP draft nerd.
26:13>> I would consider it, though people will consider it a reach.
26:16>> I I I think the the key here is I'm pretty loaded at at most every position.
26:20Like, I'm probably going to go with one of the wide receivers, and I think there's enough depth at the position. Uh
26:25but but I would been flirting with the idea, so when I realized we were going to be discussing him, I thought this
26:30would be a good opportunity for me to dig deep into Matt Waldman's bass IDP knowledge.
26:37>> I would consider I would definitely consider CJ Allen, though I know it might be a reach.
26:41>> It is a bit of a reach. Um you can probably get him in round two, maybe even round three.
26:46>> Yeah. Are you Do you think people will see Sonny Styles as a better pick just because of the draft capital?
26:51>> Yes, they will. They will see that, but I will be waiting on CJ Allen.
26:55>> Fair enough. All right. I'm glad we could figure that out for my uh for my friend. You're welcome, sir.
27:00>> Yeah, that's okay. He's not going to be my friend when he when he snipes him from me um in another league that me and my
27:07friend are in, but you know, that's what I do.
27:09>> not a dissimilar league. All right, Jonathan Brooks.
27:12Uh reasons to buy, sell, or hold.
27:15>> Let's do all three. The reasons to buy is that when he was healthy at Texas, he was the best back in that class um
27:23and he he rivaled I thought he rivaled any of the I I thought he rivaled Bijan.
27:30I thought he was Bijan was um more um agile player.
27:35Brooks had better contact balance, but was also faster and quicker than people realized and then had excellent vision.
27:44So, I love what Brooks offers from a from a pre-injury standpoint. The reason to sell is that we haven't seen him play
27:51in 2 years. And so, we don't know how fast he's going to acclimate, whether he's going to be able to overtake Chuba Hubbard, or whether
28:00it's going to be a split time share, and they love Chuba Hubbard there. And so, >> so he could wind up being the third back
28:07and not really doing anything. The reason to hold is that he's probably going to wind up somewhere in between and see what kind of value you can get
28:15from him before you make that type of a decision. Um if you're loaded, if you're loaded at running back and there's some
28:22excitement about him, I could see why you might want to sell now um so that you can avoid any of the
28:28speculation of whether he'll even get on the field and show anything. That might be worthwhile to you. The reason to buy
28:35might be that you're rebuilding and you don't and you you still want to have an early round pick in 2027. Maybe you're
28:41aiming for Jeremiah Smith at wide receiver and you're thinking, "I don't want to I want to acquire players who might help me, but I don't want them to
28:50help me right away. Well, Brooks might be that that type of player where you can take a risk like that at a
28:55reasonable price.
28:57>> Or if you're drafting in best ball right now, running back 47, you're getting them in like round 11. I think that's
29:03the those that's the kind of thing that can get you huge wins. He's got tons of upside there based on everything Matt
29:09said. So, I think there's a lot of players that that people will be drafting ahead of him. Uh they probably don't have that same upside or
29:17contingent upside he has should he outright win that job. If he's if he turns back into Jonathan Brooks, I mean, it's
29:24very believable. I will go back to something talking to local reporters about Chuba Hubbard and something that you'll find is the theme. You'll hear
29:34you'll hear David Canales say it. You'll hear the reporters say it. You'll hear the players say it. Running with violence. They think Chuba Hubbard
29:40embodies that and that is the word they use, violence. They want violent runners. So, uh so, interesting to see how that plays out, but I do think
29:48investing cheap shares in in Jonathan Brooks is a is a good path to potential success. I mean, that's the key, Matt,
29:55getting getting players to outperform their price and he has every has all the ability to do that. So, does Diego Pavia, I'm told, in Baltimore where he
30:04had no guaranteed money on his initial contract. Is that 3-year deal notable at all?
30:09>> Yeah, there's some piss and vinegar there. Let's just put it that way. Um >> Definitely that.
30:13>> Yeah, but uh I I think it is from the standpoint that they actually while there's no guarantees, the 3-year that's because
30:22of his off-the-field activities. Yeah, that that Basically, what they're saying is we know you're talented, so we're giving you a 3-year deal.
30:29>> been a dick, so you suffer.
30:32>> so exactly. Exactly. So, if he's if he behaves himself, um they got themselves the best number two quarterback they've had in a while and
30:43they can also maybe have Joe Fagnano maybe um develop slowly on the bench as a third if they want to do that. But Pavia Pavia
30:53to me was one of the top five quarterbacks in this class outside of the off-field stuff.
30:58>> Yeah, and and I guess they you know I say he's a dick. I don't know him. I've just heard things
31:03>> thinks he is.
31:04>> The NFL absolutely thinks he is and I think that's the broader point or what is he like the first Heisman
31:09runner up not to not to get drafted in all time history?
31:13>> Though there were a lot that didn't deserve to get drafted so >> Probably. Yeah, it turns out it turns out a lot of the Heisman
31:19winners probably didn't deserve the draft capital they spent it on them. Uh Cameron Jordan is getting up there in years. Uh the Bears will add him this
31:27summer and have him join his former head coach Dennis Allen in Chicago feeling or >> Yeah, I'm feeling that that's a there's
31:33a good chance that that's going to happen. Um I know that a lot of the Bears fans have been um were upset that they didn't draft a
31:42defensive end but as we talked about last week, you know, the addition of having a Tyler Lindenbaum-like center who could be better than Garrett
31:49Bradbury right away and the addition of Sam Rauch who could wind up being the you know, part of an of a a more um
32:00how would I say it? More civilized version of Aaron Hernandez Rob Gronkowski um tandem >> you know, in terms of you know,
32:09>> Rob says he's plenty civilized. He Aaron doesn't say much.
32:12>> Yeah, Aaron didn't say much no. But uh but you know what I'm saying is that you know, this could be a a better citizen
32:19version of that and and I think that they want to go all offense because they know their defense isn't the strongest
32:28but is it really going to matter for you to get one player and that's going to really change your defense as
32:35opposed to getting two offensive players who can keep your offense at the same level of production and execution in key positions so that you can dominate. You
32:46know, I think that you know, and if the and if you're one year better in this offense, you're going to be able to run
32:51through people a lot more efficiently and maybe build bigger leads than you did you know, in year one that then re then
32:59it comes down to one small play with a pass rusher, you know, at the end of the game. But if you're ahead by 21
33:07at the begin in the middle of the fourth quarter, pass rush isn't quite as important as it maybe was when you were
33:13behind by 10 and you come back and now every little play counts. And I think that that's where they're looking at this is like keep
33:22building on your strength and we'll try and shore up our weaknesses where we can and Cam Jordan would be a a logical
33:28choice there. I'm feeling the idea of that.
33:30>> With the 248th pick in the NFL draft 2026 NFL draft, the Cleveland Browns took uh BYU tight end Carson Ryan. He wasn't
33:40Mr. Irrelevant, but he wasn't necessarily all that relevant. Um they've got Harold Landry Jr. David Njoku moving on.
33:50Is this like uh is he a sleeper? A guy that you would pick up as after your draft as a free agent in your dynasty
33:56leagues? Feel free to [ __ ] it.
33:57>> Pre-draft I was all in on the idea and then I saw some idea of a workout that sounded like that he weighed 235 and I
34:05thought, oh, well, that might be why he he's not going to be drafted.
34:08>> college weight was listed at what? 245?
34:11>> Yeah, 255. 250 to 255. So, if he's 235, then we're concerned that he's more of a full back and and that's fine, but
34:21he might still be viable for the Browns, but not for fantasy. But if he's a legit 250 255, he will I I would say that he's second
34:31to Sam Rauch as a blocker in this class because of that weight and pound-for-pound he might even be better.
34:38Um and he I know he can catch, I know he can run decent routes, and he's got some skill after the catch. He could fulfill
34:46He could be a um middle-class version of David Njoku and actually a better version of him if they're asking him to
34:54be more of a full-fledged um technician as opposed to just a straight-line fast guy who runs straight-line routes that
35:03Njoku tended to do. Um so, I'm definitely keeping my eye on Ryan.
35:08>> All right, sounds good, man. That's all we got today, people. By the way, in case you didn't miss it didn't hear it
35:14at the top, the post-draft RSP is available, Rookie Scouting Portfolio.
35:18Get it at mattwaldman.com. It's fantastic. I've been referring to it as we've discussed these players, and you'll find tons of good information.
35:26Again, page 80 is probably where I will be living uh as I'm doing drafts. I mean, there's some vital information in
35:32there, but I think the big key for me is, you know, putting together Matt's understanding and knowledge of what scheme fits there are. We now have
35:39schemes, and we can see how they actually fit, and Mac can project add that to his uh to his uh formula here and and come up with some
35:48better information. And it is fantastic.
35:50I love it.
35:50>> And maybe next year we'll do a we'll do a bonus um insert of some of Bob's favorite um Bob's favorite pictorials of of
36:00>> Very fast players.
36:01>> very fast players, yes.
36:02>> You can go get my fantasy notebook. It's available every week at Football Guys.
36:05This week I look at second-year breakout candidates.
36:08>> Nice.
36:09>> So, check that out. Also, the Hot Seat has started back up, my uh YouTube uh show on the Audible channel. Uh we'll be
36:15uh every I think coming out every Wednesday. You can go back and listen to week one. I had the great Mike Dempsey
36:19on, my cohost from Sirius XM Fantasy >> Fantastic dynasty player.
36:23>> He is a very good dynasty player and very knowledgeable in general. The This week I'll have on Terra Roberts uh from
36:29the Dear Myth Fantasy podcast and she's been doing great work on YouTube.
36:33Recent winner of the Mike Tagliere award for grinding it out. So she does great stuff on the podcast.
36:40>> Clemson affiliations notwithstanding.
36:42>> Big Clemson fan, big Packer fan. So but yeah, she does great job of assessing the fantasy landscape. So she'll be on
36:48with me this week and then we'll be back next week for more feeling and [ __ ] How about that Matt?
36:52>> I'm I'm loving it.
36:54>> All right, let's get out of here.
36:55>> I'm loving it. All right, bye. Bye bye.
36:56>> Bye.

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