0:00All right, welcome to going deep.
0:01Brandon Angelo, Matt Waldman. We are getting about a month away from the NFL draft, maybe a little more than that, but you know, getting close and we
0:09Brandon thought let's do a listener Q&A.
0:11Um so, we got a good bit of questions and we're going to just get right into it. So, we're going to alternate, we're
0:18going to try and answer them as quickly as we can, see how many we can get through and I bet the over under is five
0:24with us, but we're going to see if we can >> [laughter] >> A safe under typically.
0:31Well, let's see if [laughter] we can let's see if we can like screw up expec- expectations here and upset people. So,
0:38I'll start. Um What do you Okay, Joe from X said, "What do you make of the perceived tier drop off after the 1.05,
0:491.04 in Scott Fish and one quarterback leagues and would you prefer pushing picks out to later years, especially the vaulted 2027 year? Looking forward to
1:00the RSP and re-up and on the rankings."
1:03Well, thank you.
1:04What do you think?
1:07Oh, man.
1:09I think it's really interesting because when you look at the non like non-superflex, that's what that's what he's asking essentially, right?
1:18Yeah.
1:19Obviously, you're going to go Love. I think he's in a tier of his own.
1:24And then Lemon, Tate, Icinger are kind of all in that second tier because you you're assuming those guys are going to
1:31get top 15, top 20 capital.
1:34Where it gets dicey is after that.
1:38What are you projecting? If you draft before the NFL draft in particular, that's where it gets trickier. Um because you just don't know. I'd say
1:45Omar Cooper Jr. is the next one from a projected role standpoint. Um I could see teams in the late teens really vying
1:55to get a prospect like him. Um cuz it's he's one of those guys a little tougher to find, more so his brand of football
2:03and how he carries himself and that type of deal. Um that's the more difficult.
2:08So, I would say it gets tricky around that 105 plus range when you get into it. I mean, you Cooper Jr. Mendoza is
2:15not a bad one in one QB either if you're you know, if it's a if it's a obviously dynasty if you're looking to
2:22draft the quarterback, he's safe. Um cuz typically in the first round I'm trying to I Everybody says, "Well, you're trying to hit your first round draft pick every
2:31time." But you sometimes want to take the floor whereas a guy like Cooper Jr.
2:35might not have a super high ceiling, but he's going to have a pretty viable floor for a long time in my opinion. Yeah, I
2:41mean, I I agree with most of those players in terms of that they're that they're the viable players, you know, we
2:46may be different on the order with them for sure. I would say in the wide receiver realm for me, I would even
2:53argue it's Tate and Love and and like you it depends on how how you're trying to build your team, which one you really
3:00want to go. If you're if you're in a position to win now and you just need a back to put you over the top, Love
3:05certainly qualifies. If you if you're building and you're trying to go the safe route of like who's going to offer you the most years and a strong strong
3:13production track record and wide receivers tend to be a little safer and I think Tate would be a guy that I would feel good about and if you
3:21couldn't get him, I'd still feel great about Lemon. So, you know, those two guys. After that, I mean, really uh you know, I would probably say pre-draft
3:32if you're drafting before the NFL draft, I would start looking at guys who maybe offer a little bit more upside um
3:39too. Like I'd look at Skylar Bell. I would consider him as somebody that I would feel pretty good with. Here here's
3:44where I would probably consider Jordan Tyson even though I have we've talked about the concerns and I'm kind of there with you on that on that realm.
3:53Um you know, and then of course, you know, in a running back honestly, um after Jeremiah Love it's all fit based.
4:01It's all you know, at best. It's all at best fit based cuz there's a lot of guys who from my perspective are
4:09um they can contribute. They might even be grow into starters. They could do that, but they're not projected to start right
4:18away and they might not even projected to be a contributor right away.
4:24Um so, it's kind of like looking at James Cook a number of years ago and you could look at him and go, see how this
4:31guy could develop into something, but are the teams going to believe it? Is he going to grow into it? You you know, are
4:37they going to give him the the bulk of the touches?" And I would say most people probably were going to say, "Nah,
4:43probably not. They're going to treat him like Eric Metcalf from way back in the day and have him be a gadget player."
4:48So, there's some guys in this draft that are like that. I'm with you on Mendoza.
4:53To me like the two receivers and Mendoza are probably like super safe like conservative picks.
5:02But I don't know how you wouldn't want to take Jeremiah Love. Um you know, after watching him, I feel like yeah, you're getting a you're
5:09getting a Alvin Kamara type of prospect who you know, somewhere along those along those lines.
5:18Um so, yeah, that's um that's I think that kind of answers it is that you know, if you don't after that, I guess you're going to try and go
5:26for 2027 and you're going to but everyone's going to be going for it. So, my you know, my suggestion to you is if
5:34you don't already have 2027 picks, you're probably not going to get them.
5:39And not in savvier leagues, I would think.
5:42So, at this point maybe you just you just roll with the um you just roll with you know, your best shots at upside with
5:52some of these guys.
5:54So, um all right. Next one we have is from from Mike. If you don't have the 1.10 101 in your league's 2026 rookie
6:03draft and your team is in need of a running back, what would be your running back strategy for this year? Are there guys going in
6:10the second round or later that have a real path to fantasy relevance? Well, I think we answered that one.
6:17Yeah, no. Yeah, go ahead if you want us to expand further. It's all you.
6:21>> I just say I would just say that there are based on fit. Like if you you know, I mean, Omarian Hampton to me
6:28is not a great back last year, but where he wound up in with the Chargers is probably a decent enough fit
6:37that he's going to at least be uh you know, a fantasy factor probably for another year or two at least and see
6:44whether he grows or not, but he's going to give you maybe running back two, running back three value and and he has
6:51the ceiling to be a running back one depending on how they use that use him in that system. Well, you know, you
6:57could see how a Mike Washington Jr.
6:59might fit into something like that. Um even if even if he's not I don't think the combine really was anything that was
7:09that huge of a surprise. Right. You know, he's I think he is what he is. So, you know, but guys like Mike Washington
7:17certainly might do that. Demond Claiborne is a fun player, but he's 188 lb and are we looking at a Clinton
7:27Portis type of player, James Cook type of player in him that and that can add another 10 lb to his frame and be a
7:36really good scat back in the league, a change of pace guy. Very possible, but you got to see again, you you're going
7:44in blind with that and to that level.
7:47Guys like Nicholas Singleton, you know, Jadarian Price. I know a lot of people love Jadarian Price and look at that and I go
7:56that I think he certainly has the upside like all there's a bunch of guys to me that have that upside that you look at
8:02and go, "Yeah, they could probably become starters, but we got to see if they can prove they've they've gotten better at some things, not just project
8:10that they will." And and I think that some of the projections for these guys a little bit more difficult than than than
8:18people are probably going to put it. So, honestly, if you're going my bet would be if the your if you're trying to get a running back
8:28in the first round and you don't get Jeremiah Love, take the best receiver available. Take the best court if it's if or and if Men
8:36if the top two receivers aren't there, Lemon and and Tate or Tate and Lemon, however you want to look at it,
8:43take Mendoza. Because at least on a level where stockpile. I'm always a big believer that if draft talented that point, you you don't really want to
8:52draft need draft talent, stockpile and down the line you'll be better off if you end up hitting on that pick and
8:59being able to trade it cuz you didn't need it or trading somebody else on your team who who now you're like, you know,
9:06say you draft McKay Lemon and you had Jaylen Waddle and you were thinking, "Oh, I'm excited about where he's going in Denver and he's going to be, you
9:15know, a strong wide receiver two." And then we find out he's he turns into Tutu Atwell like for some reason. You you
9:21know, and you're and you're disappointed, but you ended up with Lemon and you were thrilled and now, you know, but then Waddle starts to come on
9:30and he starts to play well and you're like, "You know what? Let me let me trade him. He's got less time available
9:37than Lemon. I'm glad I did this and now I'm going to be able to get a running back who I know is playing well as
9:44opposed to you know, will he be good?"
9:48Sure. Love it. Okay. So, all right. Next one. All right. Steven, he wants to know how many blue chip prospects are you seeing at quarterback,
9:58running back, wide receiver, and tight end this year compared to examples of blue chip prospects like Caleb and May in QB class
10:08or the neighbors Harrison wide receiver class or the Bijan Gibbs running back class?
10:15Awesome. Uh it's tough cuz really blue players are really rare players. So I think the only prospect I can look at and be like, this
10:25is someone you don't see every every few years really is just Jeremiah Love.
10:31Um I think receiver there's so many different flavors where it's like yeah, is Cardell Tate really good? Is Makai Lemon really good? Yeah, but every
10:40class from the last like four classes it seems like we get a prospect of that territory really.
10:47Um we thought Marvin Harrison Jr. was a blue player or most most people did. Um not you, Matt. Um but most people did in a sense in terms
10:56of being a prospect. So it's just kind of tough to see how these guys fit in the NFL, but running backs it's you
11:02know, Jeremiah Love's kind of in that Bijan Gentee Gibbs tier.
11:07Yeah.
11:07>> Um in terms of just talent ceiling, right? I think he can be upwards of a Jamaal Charles type player.
11:14Um at tight end I don't really see a guy that's of that caliber quarterback Mendoza's good, but not a blue chip prospect like
11:23Caleb Williams was. Um and so that's kind of how I see that one. I know Steven had two more and I
11:29can rattle those off too to make it easy. Uh he asked, is this a class with actual hidden stars like a sneaky great
11:36running back or two with after Love or is it more of a beauty in the eye of the beholder draft where there are prospects
11:42with certain skill sets and if they get into the right system they could blow up and ala James Cook.
11:49It's a great question. I would say it's a it depends, but I would probably say it's more of a beauty in the eye of the
11:56beholder.
11:57In a sense of there aren't a lot of guys that will succeed despite situation.
12:04There are guys though who can take advantage of a situation. And that's really important when you look at depth charts and and really being actionable
12:13at looking at hey how do these stack up after the NFL draft happen? Because they're in the NFL draft as well. You're going to get a
12:21good sense of where some of these veteran guys are going.
12:24Like Tyreek Hill.
12:25Stefon Diggs.
12:27Like guys that played in the league for a while, but don't have spots yet. And those guys soak up targets here. That's
12:32like 18% plus target share guys, easily.
12:35So looking at that, that's important.
12:38And then you'll have guys that you know, go into a running back room that's pretty thin from a secondary tertiary level that can be pushed up, right? We
12:46see it every year. Last year Khalil Mungai huge amount of Chicago Bears and then we saw Equanimeous St. Brown still like what? 750 yards like almost
12:55900 total yards I think as a seventh round rookie.
13:00So you're going to get guys that can take advantage of situation. It's just looking at the situation from the lens of who's ahead of them.
13:07What does that talent caliber look like ahead of and how we project that player to kind of fit in that room, that system, that
13:16run scheme and kind of going from there. And and Steven's last question was in a wide receiver class with some physical height, weight, size, speed
13:25freaks, potentially an X are any of Lance Caldwell, Brazil, Boston, etc. actual players or just physical specimens?
13:37I think Boston is one of those boring prospects that is going to be in the league for a while. I agree.
13:42>> I don't think he is necessarily a super high-end X or even like a Tee Higgins, like a high-end secondary player.
13:51But I do think he can be like a a Courtland Sutton now.
13:56Right? Courtland Sutton prior ACL was a really freaking good player.
14:01Courtland Sutton post ACL was a good player.
14:04Right? And I think that's kind of that same vein of of Boston.
14:08Um we get to Brazil. It it it's tough cuz he's he's a really rangy prospect in terms of outcomes.
14:15Right? I could see him being potentially Christian Watson of an offense where he grows into playing a larger role like we
14:22saw Watson post ACL do this year with the Packers.
14:25Um or I could see him being a Robbie Anderson type player where you're you know, you have a role in the league for
14:32a good while, you're good at that role, but you're not a you know, you're not a cornerstone type player or you know, a high target share
14:40guy.
14:41Um the other guys you asked about were Caldwell and Lance. Um I like Lance more than Caldwell. I think I think Lance has
14:49the actual ability to play on three levels. I watched his tape from last year and I remember writing down, "This kid can actually play. He's a day two
14:57player." Um and then this year he he took even a step up I think as well and I think he's definitely a day two pick.
15:05Um to me the talent. Caldwell's a little bit harder to project cuz he has physical tools, but it's I I don't think he's at the level
15:14from a technical standpoint as Lance is.
15:17Lance is just really smooth um and does things well kind of in all phases. Um not like as put together as
15:25like a Jordan Tyson, let's say.
15:27But I think he he's a safe player to have a role in an NFL scheme. Yeah, I mean I think Lance is
15:35Lance has two tracks he could go. If he really just works at his craft, maybe we could be talking about an A.J. Green
15:41type of player in terms of if he really gets good at routes and gets rid of some of the misadventures with his hands.
15:50Um but if he's just going to be a better version of what we see right now, just not but doesn't change aspects of his
15:58game that he could, I think he's kind of an aspiring George Pickens, you know, which still isn't bad. Um Caldwell, I
16:05wouldn't put Caldwell anywhere near any of those guys. I like what you mentioned about Boston. Like I actually have Nico Collins as the height of his
16:14aspirational comparison stylistically.
16:17Um in the middle of that is um Tee Higgins and I have him just under Tee Higgins.
16:23Um Okay.
16:24>> between Corey Davis and Tee Higgins and Corey Davis is kind of a a a bargain basement Courtland Sutton type of
16:30player.
16:31>> was a he was a high draft pick. People forget that, man. Corey Corey Davis was a high high draft pick. Yes. So and then
16:38you know, I would probably put you know, Brazil I I joke because I had a lot of comparisons with George Pickens as the
16:45aspirational profile or the mid-range profile and I joked that Chris Brazil is the winner of the George Pickens look-alike contest for the NFL draft
16:53class this year. Um you know, he I think he's more than an sideline rebounder.
17:00But you know, I can see how teams cast him on that rebound, slants, over routes. There you go. And and then he
17:08gets kind of stuck there if he's not >> yeah. Yeah, he gets pigeonholed if he doesn't start off fast. Um you know, I think Chris Bell is a
17:15dangerous player that I I'll mention it as part of one of those in the sense that he's the player in this draft that I would say um I'm
17:25afraid to I'm afraid to consider and I'm equally afraid to not consider.
17:32Um and >> 100% yeah.
17:34>> Yeah, because when you watch his game, he either looks like an ascending talent destined for stardom or an inconsistent frustrating tease. And I honestly can't
17:43really tell which one it is sometimes, but if I had to pick, it would probably be the it would probably be the there
17:52it'd probably be a bit of both where you're like oh, he's like DeVante Parker, you know, like you would go DeVante Parker who was also at
18:00Louisville and when asked at Louisville so uh what do you credit to your game development? Uh it's just God-given ability and I was like, whoa whoa.
18:10Um because he he figured out that God gave him the ability to do some work and actually have a disciplined approach to
18:17his game around year three, year four of being with Miami and by that point expectations had dropped with him and it
18:25was a little too late um for his game to really be what it could have been. And you know, that's that happens. That's
18:31just part of the the the process there.
18:34So I mean, yeah, it's a there are a lot of guys in this class like that who are who are fascinating and I love I like
18:41Lance.
18:42Um but you know, and I think teams are going to probably go for him early. Um I would add I would add Skylar Bell to the mix even
18:51though he's not a big tall guy. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
18:55>> I'm I'm really liking him, but the thing I would say with him is you have to ask yourself the question.
19:02Because he's a serial clap attacker. He is he is he is he basically the exception to the rule like Golden Tate, Marvin Harrison
19:11Sr. and Terry McLaurin who like they catch the ball as ugly as sin technique-wise, but they get it done or is he going to have to fix that and
19:21be like Quentin Johnston last year who curtailed some of that stuff and started to be better? We're going to find out.
19:27I'm actually betting that he's the exception and I've got some reasons I'll be talking about in the RSP as to why
19:33he's the exception, but um but it's a gamble. I'll just put it that way. It it it is a huge gamble and before we get to
19:40the next question, I mean, I love that you put him in there. Um right now I got asked a couple times today, you know, I
19:45put up put out a tweet and I added him in there. Like where is he at? Like I graded him today against the bulk of this receiver
19:53class, I have him wide receiver four.
19:55Like I have him pretty high.
19:57>> I have him five. Yep. And I have him pretty high and he does a lot well.
20:05And you're absolutely right. If he can curtail some of the the hand placement a lot of it happens in my opinion in
20:17contested situations with him where he's not in the right spot >> Yes.
20:23>> from a length perspective in terms of where he needs to be with his hands getting in through the in through the defender. That's a huge one.
20:34And he loses a lot of like 50/50 situations so to speak because of that.
20:38It's not cuz he's getting, you know, out-strength. Like you know, he's not getting pushed around. But he's just out-positioning himself.
20:46And if if he cleans that up, I think he's a he's a long-term starter in this league.
20:51>> Yeah. Um yeah, no, I agree. I love it.
20:53Yeah, I'm I'm definitely there with you on that one. All right, so let's let's move on. We we actually got three or
20:59four questions already and we're only 20 minutes in.
21:01>> Oh, let's go.
21:03Oh, no. What is going on? Um whether it was due to injury, bad situation, or something else, Joel wants to know name wants to know about a
21:14veteran receiver and a veteran running back that could be a great buy low in dynasty fantasy football. All right, you give me the receiver, I'll give you a
21:23running back. Okay, that's a good thought. Okay, so let me look at this again as I buy time. One veteran who
21:29whether it was due to injury, bad situation, or something else um who would be a great buy low in dynasty.
21:37Well, you know, there's a few here that I I think that we can put in and some of them are going to be predictable, some
21:44of them may not. I'll try and give a I'll try and just kind of throw it up against the wall. Um
21:52I still think Jaylen Coker is probably a guy that we we've got to consider on that end of it that that you can that
21:59you can go there. I think he's fairly well known, but we can but I still think that that's that's one in the book. I
22:05still believe in Kayshon Boutte. Um I I know that uh they're probably looking for more help in in that regard. But I think
22:16that I think that um Douglas's days are gone. And if they're smart they look back at his college tape or they talk to him and say, maybe we
22:28put you as a big slot. Because that's the he should be a big slot. He should not be a a a split end. And if they put him in as
22:37a big slot um or mix him flanker big slot with with Diggs gone um that's one. Look for Kyle Williams just
22:47to see if he can actually hold onto a ball. I think that's another example of a guy that >> Every everything but the catch point.
22:54>> Yeah. And then the one that the one that um I'm going to let I I'm going to guess which one you're going to say and then
23:00you can give the reason. I'm going to say Malik Washington.
23:04Okay, I love it. I You know I love Malik Washington, so Yeah. It's just it's just because who else is it who else they
23:10going to throw to? And if they don't draft and they're going to draft somebody, but he's going to he's got to be a big part of this
23:18somewhere.
23:20has to be. I I I loved your I loved all the receivers. I think with with Kayshon Boutte, I think the big thing is
23:26I think he's part of the A.J. Brown deal.
23:28Like I think I think that's a huge part of this as well is A.J. Brown for months has been I mean
23:36not like for probably back to October has been linked to the Patriots, right?
23:41As we kind of saw the Vrabel train start to gain some steam and them becoming more contenders I think I think A.J. Brown in June since
23:51the since the June 1st cap hit situation is a lot more friendly for Howie and company. I think that does happen. And if it does happen, I think
24:02Boutte is a part of that deal. Um I do think they want to get Kyle Williams some more snaps. I think that's
24:08important for them. Um they also obviously signed Romeo Doubs. So if you have a trio of Williams Doubs, A.J.
24:16Brown that's not bad at all.
24:18>> No. And that And that And that allows Kyle Williams to grow into a larger role um when Brown ages out of significant
24:25time.
24:26>> Yeah, maybe too.
24:27>> [laughter] >> 100% yeah. He's going to need having those veterans are going to be vital for him to grow. And then Boutte going to a
24:34place where it's just Hollywood Brown, DeVonta Smith and Yeah. him, Dallas Goedert, I love that.
24:40Um the running back I would say I think the biggest one is going to be Kenneth Gainwell.
24:47And reason being is I think there are things that aren't being talked about with Bucky Irving.
24:55With his recovery and lack thereof.
24:58Because he got And this is the thing this is I I I talked about wrote about this in college.
25:03Plays so hard.
25:06A million miles an hour, there's no there's no off switch.
25:12And there's nothing in between. So he he's on the field a lot, but also too you'll see him leave the field. Little
25:18nicks and bruises here and there.
25:20And it's caught up to him this past year with the way he plays and how he takes contact how he approaches
25:27contact. And that's important to know and I think there's more than meets the eye to his injury situation and and recovery. So Kenneth Gainwell I think is
25:36someone that we saw in Pittsburgh he was the best back in that backfield by in my opinion by a good margin.
25:44Um I think he gets potential lion's share of those touches.
25:49And I think that's a really big deal because they're going to need a decent chunk of that offense to come alive.
25:58You have no Mike Evans.
26:00Who I think is a bigger that's a bigger gap than people are People like, okay, you know, Olamide Olamide can get more touches here and
26:09God Godwin he's never going to be the same player.
26:12>> This isn't a DK Metcalf getting replaced by Juju Smith Correct. This is Jackson Smith-Njigba.
26:18No, for sure. This is a high-end outside receiver, one of the dinosaurs on the perimeter that don't really exist anymore. You're
26:27not replacing him, but Kenneth Gainwell is going to have I think a pretty significant target share and be a big help for Baker underneath. And I think
26:36he's my biggest If I'm going to circle a the biggest buy now player at running back in terms of price, it's Kenneth Gainwell. Nice.
26:45Nice. All right, so All right.
26:49In superflex, what is the move at 1.02?
26:52Is it Mendoza or would a top three wide receiver be justified there?
26:57Also, both of your opinions on Surratt for fantasy purposes, please and thank you from Canubis.
27:03Okay, cool. I'll take it and then we can both talk about Surratt for a little.
27:07>> All right. Um At 1.02 in superflex, you can't go wrong with the safe quarterback.
27:15But if you're like, I have a couple quarterbacks, you know, on my roster that are they're good, you know honestly I'm looking at
27:25a Tate you know Tate or Olamide.
27:31That's really it.
27:32I'm going with one of those two guys.
27:35Um whoever I like more. Um I'm a I think I have Olamide a smidge higher than Tate. Um I think he's a little bit
27:42safer, but even so, I think Tate is still just good of player if not better. So you can't really you know,
27:50you can split hairs, but you can't really go wrong with either guy. So for me, I'm taking one of those two receivers at 1.02
27:58or I'm trading back from 1.02 to 1.04 knowing I can get either one of those receivers and Mendoza.
28:08So I think if you want to acquire some capital on the back end there um have someone who comes up and really
28:13wants Mendoza, then you're going to land either a Tate or you know, Tate or Olamide at 1.04 and you're you know
28:20you're a happy happy camper.
28:24So what are your thoughts on Surratt?
28:29I think it's one of those where I don't think his brand of football allows for him to be a significant contributor in today's game.
28:40I don't think he has enough in his bag as an outside receiver to produce 800 plus yards pretty consistently.
28:50I don't think he's quick enough to beat really good interior corners inside.
28:56So I think it kind of you know, leaves you with a Josh Palmer type of player.
29:06>> [laughter] >> That's exactly my comparison.
29:09>> Oh, that's hilarious you said that.
29:10>> [laughter] >> I had no idea by the way. Um He is on the dot. That's who I compared him to. We are we are mind melded from
29:18so many episodes, so this is good. Yeah.
29:20Um yeah, I think that's really it. It's like he's not going to be a high-end contributor. Will he contribute in real
29:27life? Sure. He's a I Mack Hollins for crying out loud is a starting act receiver in the freaking NFL. Right. Right? That's kind of the
29:35track like the the that type of Hollins, you know, that type of Palmer player um but I don't think he's a high-end
29:43contributor um whatsoever, but I do think he's a good enough player to stick around the league for a while. I have
29:49three players who have the same score um for depth of talent in the RSP, but they are wildly different in how I would
29:57consider them in context. One of them I would say has a um high floor
30:05um and a a medium probably a high ceiling, not elite but a high ceiling.
30:12Um one of them has an elite ceiling and a freaking um dungeon for a floor.
30:21>> [laughter] >> Dungeon floor is great.
30:24>> You know, with spikes in it. Um and then the other one is Elijah Sorat who I think is a medium floor medium upside
30:31player and in those terms that's Josh Palmer. You know, if he if he exceeds that, maybe he's Michael Wilson. You know, Okay, yeah. or what Bryan Edwards,
30:42I thought Bryan Edwards might possibly could be God. But That that that one hurts my heart, I'll be honest.
30:48>> Yeah, me too. So, but I don't see yeah, I don't see that happening from that perspective. So, okay.
30:55Moving forward, um Jamie wants to know, in the I'm a Raiders fan, how should I feel about Mendoza Kubiak? I'll start.
31:03I'm Listen, I I think from an from a physical ability standpoint, he you know, Mendoza doesn't offer you the same blue chip value that Caleb
31:15Williams does or maybe you know, maybe even Drake May, but I think Mendoza actually is a better version of Drake May without quite the
31:23arm. It's just that he's I I love how he reads the field. I love how he's how he makes decisions. I love
31:31what he does in and outside the pocket.
31:33He's faster than you think. We talked about him in that realm before. And with Kubiak, I mean, you give him play action
31:40to set things up in time. Um and and you know, I think that he is he's going to be a very smart player who
31:51who doesn't make a lot of mistakes once he really gets his act together. And I had I have as high a grade for him as
31:59I've given just about any um as a lot of quarterbacks in the past four or five years. Like you you know, I
32:06think he's I think Now, is this a good situation for him?
32:10You know, I I'd like to think they're going to turn a page here. Um but you got to see what happens with that line.
32:17They've they've done some things that you you know, that seem to be pretty good, but the problem is is one of the things they did that seemed good,
32:25the Max Crosby trade got rid of it. So, you know, [laughter] so you know, it's kind of bad luck there. So, they you know, it's not going
32:34to be an easy year from that perspective for Mendoza, [snorts] but I think you should be optimistic and I know that's
32:40hard for Raiders fans, Browns fans, Jets fans, or Cardinals fans to ever feel.
32:44Sure. But I would be optimistic about Mendoza. I think he's a good starting quarterback who could um
32:53who could um survive a [ __ ] show just in the same way that Caleb Williams survived the [ __ ] show. Um and that's
33:01kind of what I predict projected for Williams is that he was going to have to go through a [ __ ] show, but he he'd be
33:06the only one that could handle it. And he has. It was a war, but he was able to handle it and I think that we're I think
33:13Mendoza is in that tier. No, I agree. Um my quick thoughts is I think he's he's a very similar player to Dak Pres- Dak Dak
33:21Prescott, man. I think that's really where where I I look at him and it's the process coupling, the ability to understand what he's seeing. And that's
33:33where we talk about the Drake May stuff, right? And we you know, we talk about Drake May's next step. It's nothing
33:38physical whatsoever. Like and we talked with before, it's it's the between the ears, you know, can you can you process at the level
33:48that the elites are processing the game.
33:52And that's the biggest thing and I think Mendoza is is honestly closer than Drake May in that respect.
33:58>> Oh, yeah.
33:59>> And I think he I think he's essentially a Dak Prescott type of player from a physical toughness standpoint, also from a no, please don't
34:08run into defenders that way standpoint.
34:11Um early in Dak Prescott's career that got him into quite a bit of trouble. Um but yeah, I'm a big big fan of Mendoza
34:17and think he's he's as safe as any offensive prospect in this class for sure. All right, well, um Peter wants to
34:25know is there any hope for leagues that have three and four round deep rookie drafts apart from the wide receivers and
34:31a few um tight end quarterback dart throws, the talent feels slim even in the second round. Any sleepers at all?
34:38And I'm going to say, hell yeah. There's a lot more. This is not that bad of a draft. It's This This wide receiver
34:46class to me is a essentially the same as last year's wide receiver class, not as good as the two years prior, but there
34:53are still like when you look at it from a broader perspective, I had 38 players that I thought had a chance to to contribute to a team as
35:02either you know, off the bench reserves to starters. I have 38 this year. And while it's not as strong at the top in
35:10terms of safety of where they are, there's a ton of guys in at the top of my third tier who will go in like the
35:17the third and fourth rounds and the fifth rounds who could easily become good starters and they're not that far away. They just have it's just whether
35:28they commit to doing the job. We talked about Brazil. We talked about Omar Cooper. We talked about Chris Bell.
35:34We've talked about um you know, Denzel Boston. There's still guys like Antonio Williams who's at Clemson who could if he can be a flanker, he might and
35:45develop in that realm, he could be a Jaden Reed Ladd McConkey type of player in terms of some of the things that he
35:52could do upside wise. There's Josh Cameron who's built like A.J. Brown. You you know, who is he you know, he aspires
36:00to be the next Larry Fitzgerald. He's got a lot of tools. Um it's just about whether he can put it all together. You
36:07know, we've got guys that um you know, Bryce Lan- you know, Bryce Lance, we talked about Ted Hearst is another one
36:14like that.
36:15>> Yeah. The these are all guys that are going to be Deion Burks who if he you know, if he can play a little flanker,
36:21maybe that's the case. Jacoby Lane, if he gets it all together a little bit more, is an interesting guy because of
36:27the way he catches. How about Eric McAllister? People just write off TCU because it's TCU, you know, or Tennessee, they write them off too. But
36:37Eric McAllister has has some really interesting skills to his game. And then there's J. Michael Sturdivant who you know, the at Cal, you
36:49look at him and go, oh, this guy can play. He's kind of a Mike Wilson Braylon Edwards kind of guy in training. And
36:56then you watched him at UCLA and Florida and they like treated him like he was on you know, he he was on a remedial
37:03program for for wide receivers, you know, in their offenses and you're going, how I've it's been a while since I watched a player and go, I'd like to
37:12take two years before than I did like the past two and it had nothing to do with him. And that's just that's just
37:18the wide receivers, you know, at tight end, if the the script flips and we're seeing now oversized fullbacks become the vogue and the value for the for two
37:29tight end sets instead of 11 personnel and having oversized wide receivers, suddenly now you're looking at guys who
37:38could really be interesting in those roles. I mean, um you know, Carson Ryan, Sam Roush or uh you know, you look at
37:48those guys, that could be interesting.
37:51Um if not, then you've got guys like um you know, you know, Justin Jolly maybe or you got the Stowers and Trigg and Sedeeq, of
38:02course, but you also have Oscar Delp who's you know, at Georgia, a lot of people are like >> he pops at he pops at Georgia. Yeah, and
38:13what's funny is he's kind of hidden in the in the scheme of things because well, there was some Brock Bowers guy
38:19there when he first came when Delp came aboard and then they brought in a transferred in Euresek and and then and
38:26they had all this quarterback upheaval with different quarterbacks every year or even in the middle of the season. So, you know, Delp to me could be a Zach
38:35Ertz type of player and you know, and so there's guys like that and then when we look at we look at running back, I mean,
38:43you know, that's all they are at this stage is a lot of them like I mean, I'll mention somebody nobody's talking about.
38:51I'm probably going to finalize his grade after this, but nobody's talking about Miles Montgomery of UCF and Cincinnati and I've looked at
38:59his game and he might be in a puncher's chance to be a a sleeper on my board that I'm going to be looking forward to.
39:05There's a guy named T.J. Harden at SMU who's 6'2" 220, didn't get invited to the combine, but he catches his butt off
39:15and he he has a little bit of an Arian Foster-esque sort of vibe in terms of how he runs, very powerful and seems
39:23fast enough.
39:25Maybe, you know, in practice, I laughed.
39:28This is media. This is how media I bet this is AI and I would laugh about this cuz AI probably wrote an article about
39:36um [snorts] T.J. Harden, he was he was the fastest he he showed off his speed. His fastest, you know, he was timed as the fastest
39:44guy in practice of the running backs at 17 miles per hour.
39:49>> [laughter] >> I'll tell you what, if your fantasy running back is 17 miles an hour, who the hell are you even recruiting?
39:54>> Exactly. But like the fact that the senior the the fact that he was playing at the East-West Shrine and that that
40:01that AI wrote that is is hilarious. But I've seen him run faster than that, okay? And I but at least I've seen things at track that
40:11said faster than that. And he's no massive speedster, but I mean and then all, you know, Robert Henry we've talked about. There are the you know, there are
40:20a lot of guys here. The problem is is that people define sleepers as guys that we know are going to be good,
40:27but somehow the the main media people just aren't touting them as much and they want the easy sleeper. But the real
40:35sleepers are always the guys that like a Monon guy, you you know, that you didn't that are deep and that certain things have to happen, but
40:44there's this is not a bad class. It's just not uh it the expectation is flipped. Most fantasy people are like, I need to feel
40:55like there's 20 guys that could be really good and I when I come away in my draft, I got four rounds of players that
41:01I know are going to be good and then at the end of the year they're like, well, maybe you know, next year they're going
41:06to really be good. One of those guys hit, but I'm optimistic because uh cuz the the rate my team draft, you know,
41:14the the draft mechanisms all said good things about them as opposed to like this thing where you look at it and go
41:22yeah, you've got to just listen to like the fact that it you know, this is about situation and then the these guys are on
41:29the other end. It's like the same side of the coin it's like the same coin, but it's just it's approached from the
41:34opposite way. This year it seems everyone's like oh, this isn't a good class. So therefore, is there any body good that you're going to help me out
41:41with as opposed to last year people can look and go oh, this is a good class, but who's the one that I really want out of this
41:50particular thing?
41:52It it's different side, same coin. That's all.
41:56No, yeah, I I 100% agree. I mean my stance is pretty much the same. I think the big thing is you know, when you look at it, it's you
42:04got to look at all right, are there guys that, you know, you graded highly or someone you trust graded highly that are pushed down? Like for me last
42:13year big ones were Cam Akers and Darrell Henderson.
42:17Darrell Henderson Jr.
42:18Like those are the two big ones, right?
42:20Where it's like, yeah, these guys didn't go super high in the NFL draft, but like we know and can prove that they can play
42:28at a high enough level to where they deserve potential long-term roles. Now, Cam Akers is a really interesting one because he might be in a situation and
42:38especially if you're not a super high draft capital guy and you go to a team that's poor in terms of management and
42:44coaching. And they switch the regime?
42:46Boom. Regime regime switches, Cam Akers was graded graded out to one of the better running backs in the NFL, like top 10
42:53um when he before the injury last year.
42:56Now, you but say they bring in Jeremiah Love, that's all the window. Yeah. So that's the thing is with sleepers, it's
43:04awesome to nail them. It's really hard to nail them for multiple years in a row because you're talking about guys who
43:10are drafted in the fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh round, sometimes even UDFAs.
43:15It's really hard to hold jobs there. So what ends up happening is you bring in new regimes, they want to bet on a
43:21certain position, so they'll just put capital into it, right? That's just how it works.
43:27Your best bets at production are always going to be your guys drafted in the first and second round.
43:32The higher up you go, the better probability they hit. So that's where it's tough to figure out guys like Puka Nacua,
43:40Stefon Diggs who end up being long-term superstar players.
43:44Nearly impossible. So when you look at the third and fourth and fifth rounds of your rookie drafts you have them, my
43:51best advice is to always look at the depth charts.
43:56Look and analyze what we're seeing in terms of projected role, how high-end are those starters. You look at Cam Akers, you look at that depth chart last year
44:06at Chicago Bears, D'Andre Swift coming off a poor year, Roschon Johnson hurt, not that good.
44:12Big role vacancy there, right? You look at Zach Charbonnet, Roschon Johnson, Kendre Miller. Same exact thing, Braelon Allen Jr. out of town.
44:21Austin Ekeler.
44:22That's your only competition really there for a massive role. Um I know they had Chris Rodriguez, but you're looking at a guy that hey, that
44:31if he's talented enough young fresh legs, maybe he shows something. And so that's the big thing in that capacity. But um we'll move on
44:40to the next one. Um what is the value and difference between Lemon and Tyson both short and long term?
44:49Um I'll go on this one, I guess. Um I'd say the value of Lemon is you get a physical presence for a long period of time.
45:00And that's a big deal. You get kind of this aura and energy at the position that is
45:10very hard to find. Um we're not even talking about the physical play, just that piece of having that as a brand of football on
45:19your offense is important. I think you get that immediately. Um Lemon's ability to play aggressive tactically sound football at all three
45:29levels is great. Um great after the catch. Does a fantastic job finding soft spots in zones. There's a lot he does
45:37well and is deserving of a mid to high first round grade from about every NFL team.
45:43The difference I think is going to be, you know, I think will either be a superstar or be out of league in four to five
45:52years.
45:53Um and that's just kind of the the injury thing, too, right? I mean you're if you want to reach your developmental
45:59ceiling in the NFL, you have to be healthy enough to do so and develop through, you know, different techn- technical things,
46:07different parts of your route tree you're filling.
46:10So with Tyson, I think he's an aspiring Allen Robinson type player.
46:16Um which is a very good player. Um but I think we saw with Allen Robinson as well, like the injuries took a toll
46:23physically on him.
46:25Right? The ACL took a toll. So he was never the type of player he could have been. Now with Tyson, ACL plus was when
46:33he was like 20 years old, 19. So he's a little bit removed from that already, which is great. But we're already seeing
46:40these injuries pop up still. Collarbone, non-related.
46:44He got into a hamstring injury this past year, grade two that's taken 12 plus weeks to heal.
46:50That's a red flag when you talk about the recovery side of it. Like that that's an injury that should take 6 to 8
46:55weeks, maybe, to be fully healed and ready to go. And with Tyson, that's what you're a little bit scared of and
47:03apprehensive. Like if I'm an NFL team, I'm valuing that pretty heavy cuz if I'm if I'm betting a top 15 pick on a player, I want to know he's
47:13going to be with me for for at least two contracts. And that's what I don't know with Tyson. Is he going to be able to be healthy enough to
47:21give me that? I know with Lemon how he plays the game, his demeanor, his physicality, he he took harder hits than any
47:30any receiver in the cycle, got back up, same motor all four quarters. I know that's going to be there. With Tyson,
47:37I don't and that's a little bit scary when you talk about projecting that much capital. I agree completely. All right, so Michael Suter wants to know if you
47:45have late first, early seconds in dynasty rookie draft, are you trading for vets and or 2027 picks? I've heard second round this year is like third
47:53round in some other years. I would say I think it's more like late first are more like mid seconds this year, but
48:02then it plateaus in the second and third round that it's the same as last year.
48:06It's just like you have more you have more middle tier guys who could pop, but it's that it's that vague middle. So
48:15yes, I would be trading if I have um if I have a team that I feel like I'm one or two players away and I can get
48:24good veterans who can be that, then yeah, I'm going to trade for that I'm going to trade for that. If I am
48:30if I feel like that I can trade for 2028 picks um and get more 2028 picks than 2027
48:41picks and get earlier picks as a result of that, um I would even look into that in some of your leagues if you can trade
48:48two years out um and consider that if you can't get the 2027 that you want.
48:54You know, if you if you wanted a 2027 first, but now you can like maybe get two firsts or [clears throat] get a
49:01first and a first and a second in 2028 instead of a you know, instead of one first, I would consider that as well. Um
49:10especially if you're just rebuilding. If you're rebuilding, you can do that because again, the 2028 picks give you some flexibility around this time next
49:20year where you could probably trade into the 2027 draft with those early picks and have more firepower. So you're still probably
49:30going to get into 2027 through 2028.
49:33People just aren't thinking about it that way cuz they're thinking about now as opposed to what a year from now is
49:39going to be.
49:40All right.
49:41So, all right.
49:43White stripes.
49:45>> [laughter] >> What What might we expect to see from Cam Ward in year two with the new coaches in Tennessee? Thank you.
49:52I think the biggest thing you'll see is just progress, right? I think you know, kind of a disaster under Callahan in you know, year one. I think
50:01you'll see progress in a few different areas. I think it's playing in structure. It's important. Um we don't have the receivers
50:08to do so, you know, in terms of timing, spacing.
50:12Um just being able to create explosives.
50:14It makes things really hard. As for a rookie and you didn't have that, right?
50:17Calvin Ridley I don't know what he was doing most of the year.
50:21Um was off injured as well, you know, Chigo Conkwo was an okay piece, but he's you know, he's not great receiver.
50:28Um you know, I thought some of the younger receivers showed some things, but I think you need to get a bonafide receiver one in there. That's
50:36the That's the first priority.
50:39See a lot of people mocking, you know, Love there. I would rather have a guy like Tate.
50:45Right? Some Somebody that can really win deep cuz that's what Cam Ward that's his superpower, right? Either extending plays or finding a way to get to the
50:54third level with your primary and that's what he does extremely well. Did so at Miami. So, I think that's a priority,
51:01right? Taking that guy for him cuz that's your best friend, right? You need that guy for that archetype of quarterback. So, for me that's the
51:10biggest thing I think that will help him take that next step um in year two um and hopefully we can see some
51:17playmakers come Tennessee's way in the draft this year. All right. So, I'm going to pick I'm going to do two one
51:24real one real quick and one then we'll talk about after that. So, Hayward wants to know, I have the 101, 103, and 105 in
51:31a rookie draft. If you had to draft from these slots today in a Scottfish PPR league, what would be um in a superflex PPR league, excuse me.
51:40Probably that's what it is not Scottfish. What would be >> [laughter] >> dream to be um trio to be had regardless
51:47of team need? I would say at that 101, 103, 105, I mean I think Jeremiah Love's got to be in there. I think one of
51:54either either one or both of Tate and and Lemon. [clears throat] And then if you only could get one of those guys and
52:02then Mendoza. You know, whatever order you want to go.
52:06That's what I've been saying. Love for sure and then you know, Tate, Lemon.
52:11And then you know, you're you're hoping to get at 105 one of those two that are left or you go Mendoza for sure. All
52:18right. So, Hey Jaybird wants to know if 2027 is truly a quote super class for rookies, why did they show up in 2026?
52:27>> [laughter] >> You know what? This is This is a funny question. I love it. It's a good question, too.
52:32Um For me, I think a lot of this is We're going to see this a lot now where it's the NIL's a huge factor.
52:39Like it is a absolutely massive factor where you're going to see players going back to the pool that you're that are kind of puzzling
52:47and you're like, wait, why is why is so-and-so returning?
52:51And I think it's you know, if you can get a you can get a bag if you're a quarterback, you go back for $4 million
52:58plus.
52:59Okay, cool. Sounds good. Cuz a lot of times if you're not going to be the first overall pick like Fernando Mendoza,
53:05there's not really a guarantee that you're a a long long-term starter.
53:09There's not. So, rather improve your stock, take the money and go like Dante Moore this year, right? I mean Dante Moore is projected
53:16to be a first-round pick, but there was a lot of oscillating in terms of how early or how late.
53:22So, would you rather risk you know, the the possibility of you falling to out of the first round and then you're
53:30really not guaranteed a starting job?
53:33Or would you rather just bet on yourself in the next year, take the millions of dollars and and get better at your
53:38craft? And you know, I think quarterback is an experienced position.
53:43So, if if you can experience more, see more, study more, that will help you in the long run.
53:50Um but I don't know if 2027's a super class. I mean looking at it now as I get, you know, to some of the tail end
53:56of my evaluations at running back and receiver.
53:59I mean there are some really good players in the next class. Really good.
54:02I would seek Jeremiah Smith.
54:04Um I'm Coleman.
54:06Um Isaac Brown at running back is someone I really really like out of Louisville. Um but I don't know if it's a super class.
54:13I think it's going to be pretty similar to where we have four or five guys that are kind of set it and forget it. Like
54:22this These are your cornerstone type players and guys you want in dynasty and then the rest it's like, okay, well, what if X, right?
54:30Like Brian Williams is one of those where he, you know, bananas 17-year-old season, right? At at Alabama, but you know, progressed mildly this year. So, there
54:41are definitely some question marks coming in 2027 that it might not look as pretty as we think right now. So, that's kind of my short take on that.
54:49Yeah, I never believe what anybody has to say about a class until they've actually studied it and they haven't actually studied it. And if they have
54:55studied it, um then they don't sleep cuz I can tell you I get four or five hours a night and that's not enough. And I know if I'm
55:04doing that if I'm I know how I study uh they ain't studying. They might They might have seen the guy flash on TV and
55:10go, "Hey, that sounds good." But yeah, no. Don't believe it. So, um it They might end up guessing right. That usually happens. All right. So, real
55:20Let's see some quick stuff to just that I can get rid of. All right. What do you Brett Kern wants to know, what do I like
55:26about Gunnar Helm? I'm much higher on him than the long-term in the consensus.
55:31I like the fact that I knew that Chigo Conkwo wasn't going to be there in Tennessee. So, in my projections at the
55:38year's end, I basically vaulted him up because that's you're taking the chance that he's likely going to be the guy and
55:45they did draft him last year and he did have some moments last year where they felt pretty good about what he did. He's
55:50more of a Hunter Henry type of player which means that he could be replaceable. He could be paired with somebody else.
55:57Um so, you know, I wouldn't go bananas on it. It's just that probably I have him in the realm of starters um in my
56:03projections at this point in the winter before the draft and before free agency.
56:09Um after all that gets settled, he may go back down.
56:13Um Let's see. The other one is Drake Maye's outlook next year. Any thoughts on his performance to date? Is it him or is it
56:20the scheme? Is his 2025 sustainable? I thought in 2024 Drake Maye looked like the Drake Maye that I saw at UNC which
56:28was a physically talented player who that when pressure started to mount, um you could kind of get him to make poor
56:39guesses, make bad decisions, not really see the field as fully as he needed to.
56:44Um but if you allowed him to make quick decisions within the scheme of what's going on and you had a run game with
56:50support, he could he's he can throw downfield and make some good plays. I thought what happened against Seattle did expose him to being what he actually
56:59is and that you know, Seattle got the book on him and that's kind of around the time you know, that you're going to see teams
57:07get the book on them. So, you know, get better players around him and if they do that, um and he has one
57:14more year in an offense like Josh McDaniels' offense that I think he's going to make next steps and he can still be statistically very strong, but
57:25I think he's still that guy that when they face teams that are really prepared and have the talent to execute a game
57:32plan against him, he's not yet that guy against really talented teams that can paint him into a corner and he can throw
57:40his way out of it like a like a Mahomes can or a top-tier quarterback. But I think that he's he's going to make another step and he
57:49can still be statistically good.
57:52Yeah. Okay. So, all right. So, another one. Forecast Michael Pittman in black and gold. That's from NH Ocean Side as well. I like that one. Um I'll take it.
58:02Um yeah, I think it's I think the big thing is to if if you have Aaron Rodgers there, right? The one
58:07thing you're looking at is consistency at the boundary position.
58:12And DK Metcalf doesn't give that to you.
58:16Like I don't know why we keep we keep we keep just putting DK Metcalf on the boundary and saying go win. He can't.
58:23Like he cannot. Like he's better off at this stage of career as a big slot receiver.
58:28Or who can threaten defenses vertically cuz then he makes you guess, right?
58:31That's the thing that's difficult.
58:33He's bigger threat in the slot because what are you going to do? He's 6' 4" 230 lbs. Like how are you going to defend
58:39him in the slot?
58:41Your your nickel corner is likely too small. Then you Do you need safety help over the top?
58:45You need to bump a backer over, but he's too quick for the backer. That's tough.
58:49But Pittman, what he does is he opens things up and he's going to be kind of like a James Jones type player in Aaron
58:54Rodgers, right? When you saw those two in Green Bay. Where back shoulders, the reliable stuff.
59:01Um I think he is going to be the larger target getter because he's the more reliable to.
59:09I think they might cannibalize each other as well.
59:14But it's a it's a better up It's a upgrade for the Steelers for sure cuz they didn't have a secondary receiver last year.
59:22At least one that was reliable game to game.
59:25But if Rodgers is there, I think Pittman Jr. is going to have a really nice year.
59:30All right. Cool. So, Kyle Waylon, I'll go through a couple quick ones where what are your thoughts on deep reserves like Cananda Mumfield, Jaylen Lane,
59:39Isaac Teasla, and De'Von Achane. I'll say this, I like Teasla and Mumfield in that order probably because Teasla will probably have a Kenny Golladay
59:50esque type of role in Detroit in the way that he'll probably get high profile scoring opportunities and with his physical ability they'll want to get him
59:58on the field more and more. Whereas with Mumfield, I like his technical ability much better than anybody who is on that
60:04list. It's not even close.
60:07But again, he's not super fast and so he's going to have to be a massively good route runner which he is, but he's
60:14going to have to convince Sean McVay that he can be that they saw some Davante Adams in him. He's going to have to show that he
60:23can be make another step forward athletically maybe to to prove that he can be that next step. So, I think he's a good wide
60:32receiver three wide receiver four type.
60:35He might be what they hoped Sean Jefferson could give them a few years ago and be a better version of that, but
60:40that's where he's at. Lane's got to learn how to catch and you know, he's a terrific guy after the catch. Yeah. But he's got to learn
60:50to catch and Achane everybody's going to say he's already too old, but >> [laughter] >> but he's a nice Tim Patrick type who can
60:57work the middle and and I would say of all those guys you're going to want to invest in Teasla and hold on to him if
61:03you're in a super deep draft with a with 45 plus and you have five or six practice squad spots, Mumfield comes
61:11into play, so does Achane. Though Achane you can add on and off your waiver wire probably at will and just monitor Lane and see if he
61:19proves proves me wrong and I hope he does. All right, so then another one from him is love your work love you guys
61:27work, love is gone in regular one quarterback dynasty format. Who do you take at 102? Tate and Lemon, we've already talked about that. What's that
61:35dependent on on landing spot? I think both guys are landing spot independent except for how they compare to each other and we'll know that you know
61:45Agreed. Yeah, no, I think you know, both of us will you'll probably say Tate and I'll probably say Lemon. I think the
61:53difference is going to be I think Lemon's a little more a little more dummy proof. Right.
61:59>> Right. If you if you get into a system that you know, your quarterback doesn't throw the vertical ball really well and doesn't
62:08throw vertical patterns well in general True. and outbreakers at a high level, then you kind of get into trouble. It's like you look at different but Brian
62:16Thomas Jr. and Tre Lawrence, right?
62:19>> Yeah. Just just there's sometimes quarterbacks and archetypes receivers that are marriages and that's one of them. I think Carnell Tate can do
62:26anything in the tree, Thomas Jr. can't.
62:29But I think Lemon is more dummy proof than Tate is.
62:34Let's see if we can do a few more and then and then go from go from there. All right. So, 35 year fantasy vet will be
62:42Jaleel Johnson be held back from hospital chance in year two by Allen and Rodriguez? A lot of attention and varying opinions on this.
62:53Oh man, this is a good one. I actually think if you look at Chris Rodriguez Jr.
62:56and what he did with Liam Coen at Kentucky, go look at it.
63:01Bellcow. Do I think that happens in Jacksonville? Likely not, but I do think that the low red zone work will likely
63:07go to Rodriguez.
63:09Which is frustrating because if you're a Johnson manager, well, what does that leave you? 20s work and not a whole lot
63:17of pass catching opportunities. Johnson doesn't profile as a prolific workhorse type pass catcher at the position. So, that's where it gets murky. You're
63:26looking at big plays, you're looking at a Keaton Mitchell plus type of role that is going to be undeniably frustrating. So, I think Rodriguez is
63:37the one to own. The difficult part two of this is looking at Laquon Allen.
63:42Great third down back. Like he's basically going to be the Rashod White of Liam Coen's offense.
63:50So, where does that really leave Johnson? Between the 20s touches, how many of those will he receive between 38 and 42% of work? Likely
64:01not betting on that for you know, sustainable production in fantasy. All right, we'll we'll do one quick one here and I think you're going to agree with
64:08me when I say it. Jesse Liebs wants wants to know and I hope I pronounce your last name correctly, Jesse. Jesse
64:15wants to know if he gets a if he gets a decent landing spot, is Drew Allar potentially an undervalued rookie draft
64:20steal? No.
64:22Yeah, no.
64:24So and then Paul, I bet you didn't plan on a three hour podcast. Who are some rookie sleepers that would get an
64:31immediate bump in the right landing spot and where is that ideal landing spot?
64:36>> Oh man. That's funny. Let's let's save this one as a question for next next podcast because I think that we can
64:45that could be a 20 minute answer.
64:48Absolutely.
64:50Um are the top four wide receivers, whoever your fourth is, landing spot proof?
64:57Best and worst landing spot. I don't know if we can go best and worst landing spot, but top four wide receivers
65:03landing spot proof. I'd say my top three my top three of my top four are landing spot proof, I think. Um but if I were going
65:14to be conservative, I'd say two are land No, you know what? You just talked about it. One is landing spot proof
65:22and that's Lemon.
65:23Tate is Tate is you've got to be an idiot to pick him and not have a quarterback who can throw to him. plan for that.
65:30>> for that.
65:32Then then if depending on who you have at three or four, it could be guys like Concepcion, it could be Tyson
65:39it could be Tyson, it could be Sure. you know, Malachi Fields, it could be Oh Malachi Fields. You know, it could be
65:48some guys like that.
65:49Yeah, I mean you know, there's some guys that >> for sure.
65:54>> could be in that range and so I would say yeah, there's only one and that's probably Lemon. But you'd have but Lemon
66:01is I agree with Brandon, he's he's landing spot proof for the most part because most teams are you're still going to have some 11
66:09personnel and not everyone's going to 12 to next year. So, you're going to still have that. And he can probably play
66:15flanker very well, but yeah, the Tate qualifies as you got to be a [ __ ] idiot if you >> [laughter]
66:22>> if you don't have if you don't have a quarterback That's funny. Yeah, no, I I I agree with that. I think that that
66:29you know, I said that Lemon's dummy proof. Tate you got to be a [ __ ] to not use him correctly. And then Tyson too,
66:34like if he stays injury free and develops, yeah, he's going to be dummy proof too.
66:39Um My you know, my four five right now is Bell and Cooper Jr.
66:46Cooper Jr. you're going to have a plan for. He's a DJ Moore in my opinion.
66:51And that means you're going to get the ball in his hands. Like that's you don't take him and just send him out there and say go win.
66:57No, you're getting the ball in his hands. He's an energy giver, he's the energy bunny of an offense. Like that's a big big deal.
67:05Bell's interesting because you know, any player that's drafted outside of the top 35 picks, like you're you might not have an immediate role
67:14for.
67:16So, that's a tough one. So, I I'd say one player dummy proof, one player you're [ __ ] if you don't use him
67:24correctly. Tyson falls into the he's going to be really good if he stays healthy.
67:29That's the big caveat. Then Cooper Jr. I mean he you have a plan if you freaking draft him. Yeah. So, okay. So, Jess just
67:38to follow up on your Allar question No. No, actually [laughter] to give you to give you a little bit fuller of an answer,
67:47he's Drew Allar is kind of one of those robo quarterbacks that come off the assembly line. They look the way they want a
67:54quarterback to look, they throw the way they want a quarterback to look, they're built the way they want a quarterback to
68:00look, but they've got a TRS-80 processor in inside in terms of how he sees the game at this point and that's very hard to
68:09overcome.
68:10So, you know, you're not going to it's probably going to be a tough one on that end of the spectrum. And I and the last
68:17one is just Jamarion Miller. What do we think of Jam Miller? I'll I'll start and say he was definitely you looked at his
68:29speed you know, at the 40 and that actually clocks if you watched him from 2024 when he wasn't playing through injury this year. So, he definitely has
68:39that speed, but can he create the space and accelerate to get to that top tier on that runway and I would say there's big questions
68:49about that at best. He's a determined runner. Um you know but he's got he's got to kind of gather himself a bit to do some things. I'd
68:58say he's more of a reserve who who can hit the big play when the runway's perfect.
69:05That's where I would see him.
69:08No, I agree with that 100%. I think it's tough to project the running back cuz I just don't know how many are going to
69:14be drafted in the first like in the first and second day, right? I think it's you know, the two Notre Dame guys
69:21and they went in two. And then after that, like Washington Jr. I think Emmet Johnson's one that's really interesting because we're not talking about him a
69:29lot because his didn't test well, whatever. Um but he's kind of in that Bucky Irving vein. Um which is a in Devin Singletary, good player, is not
69:39overly athletic, but I mean Singletary still in the league. I mean he got drafted in 2019. I've got a point for
69:46this that I think is worth noting for people.
69:49I think relative athletic score is a very cool metric. It's a very good conversation starter. It's a layer of information that's good. Sports writers
70:00love that [ __ ] It's like catnip for them because it's a layer of information that can be seen as facts that they can
70:07add and reference. But let's remember something.
70:12Judging judging players based on each other in history of where what their their times were for drills relative to
70:24each other in history and having a percentile doesn't tell you are they at the minimum acceptable amount for what it is you expect them to
70:33do? So, it doesn't weigh in. So, like for instance, you know, Devin Singletary, you brought him up.
70:41Short, small, slow, not a good accelerator.
70:48Not strong. Um he is essentially he has great vision and decision-making and great quickness with good feet. You know, but those are compensatory
70:59factors. An easier one that you don't have to go that crazy with was Dalvin Cook.
71:05The the the spark scores and all the the analytics that often go with running backs, they're trying to use the drills
71:13that mimic what whoever came up with these drills as they evolved to try and mimic what most running backs do or are supposed to do.
71:22Dalvin Cook didn't cut. Dalvin Cook bent. He bended around things and when he couldn't bend, his feet moved like little pistons like this
71:32as he was going and he could still manage to play. His his vertical sucked for a starter. His three-cone drill, I think sucked for a
71:41starter.
71:42>> [laughter] >> His like, you know, and people were like, "Oh my god, he was so productive at Florida State and that was a good
71:48program and and maybe he's a big bust and we don't even know it analytically, but this is where you have to look and
71:56go with RAS score, does the player play a style that fits what's he's being judged on
72:05or do you or is he not? And he did not.
72:09And so, you have to look at RAS score and say, "And also, what's the minimum?"
72:13So, like because again, if the minimum score for an Emmit Johnson for like 459, if he's running a 455 or whatever what
72:22he was running at the 40, something like that. Was 455, I think.
72:27Was was the score.
72:29What if for me at least, what I figured over the years is that the minimum standard for me for an average-size running back at is 459.
72:39That's that's the minimum for me to say, "Yeah, you've got starter worth of 40."
72:43You know, you're not elite, you know, but you can start and for a team like that, you know. Um and then
72:50there's other factors, too, you know, because you can look at Amari Cooper Fields. He's a runs a 461, but he what?
72:56He weighs 218.
72:58Um you know, he's 6'4". And also, he's got feet that are like closer to what a running back has in terms of the
73:05three-cone and his and his acceleration on the 20 is also like pretty darn good, too. Like you start looking at all these
73:14things together and go, "What is a 46 for a What is a 461 for a 6'4" 218-lb guy relative to, oh, I don't know, a
73:235'11" 178-lb guy?"
73:27You know?
73:29100%. I think that's the big thing, too, is you look at you look at the NFL and you find so many players that
73:39are outliers in a sense in terms of the the RAS and not thinking, "Oh my gosh, like this player is a second, third contract
73:48player." It happens all the time, right?
73:50Like David Montgomery's on his third contract here. Like it's like he's getting paid good money, right? And he was a I remember he was a 463 player,
73:59464.
74:01Like not fast at all. Devin Singletary we brought up, right? Like Cooper Kupp, Puka Nacua, like these guys didn't >> Priest Holmes. Yes, you can you can we
74:12can name them till the cows come home.
74:14Like it it only matters to a dozen. Like can you play the position at a high enough level for a coach
74:22to be comfortable putting you out there?
74:24That's all that matters. Right? And then that's the thing, too, is none of these guys are going to be that below requisite
74:33to like be that poor if they're starters or guys who are contributing a decent amount.
74:41Well, listen, I can't Now we're with that topic, I'll just I'll just end it this way. First of all, we thank Brandon
74:48for coming on as always and we got through all the questions.
74:53At least all the ones I saw. The ones I copied me. You know what? Okay, so here here's what I'm going to do, too. I'll
74:59look at the ones we if we didn't get there some, Yeah. I'll just do a short pod Okay. on on my on the clock pods.
75:07Okay. I'll just answer them. Yeah. If I if we missed any.
75:10>> We at least we at least touched on all the questions. We didn't answer all of them, but we there were maybe three or
75:15four we didn't really answer.
75:16>> Sure. So, we did pretty darn good in an hour and 15.
75:19>> We went way over our projection of five.
75:21So, pat on the pat on the back for both of us.
75:23>> That's right. And then I And then second note, Brandon is after our last um segment that we just answered question about, I can't I cannot wait
75:31for the AR overlords to start trying to feed in um trying to start doing scouting. I cannot wait for that. I will
75:38be asleep on my couch. You can wake me when it's time um because it's going to be fun. It's going to you know, cuz AI
75:47is nothing but a people-pleaser at this point. It's going to certainly have value. I understand that even though, you know, all the all the hedge fund
75:54managers I know out there and financial people are pushing it cuz like, "We need you to fund what we're doing so that we
76:01can make money off this and we need you to dream it."
76:05Um and it's going to be the thing and it will be the thing in a lot of ways, but yeah, um can't wait.
76:12Can't wait for the NFL to be stoop. I don't really want to see this cuz I'd like to see scouts keep their jobs, but
76:17um with the trash process that has been around for 70 years in the NFL when it comes to what they would have to feed
76:24into that, garbage in, garbage out, baby. I I cannot wait for what kind of stuff with that with a with a dog food
76:35topper of analytics on top of it that probably is some version of the misguided 6'2" 200 lbs is the minimum that we're going to look at for a
76:43receiver with a BMI of X, you know, spark score of this. I cannot wait. It's going to be Brandon, um you quit your day job, dude,
76:53because it's going to be for sure.
76:56The people are going to be coming.
76:58>> [laughter] >> All right.
76:59On that note, enjoy your Microsoft overlords.
77:04I love it. All right, we love you all.
77:06Take care. Bye.