From the episode

Kelsey is just... It's the decision against the other lower level guys like Goddard.

STACKED’s take

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Waller is a lower-tier TE option versus Kelsey this week.

Darren Waller (referred to as 'Goddard' in context) is mentioned as a lower-tier tight end option compared to Travis Kelsey in this week's matchups.

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