0:00We said that Parker Washington was going to be one of the breakout stars of the year. DraftKings appeared to not listen
0:06to us because Parker Washington is still only $6,000 on DraftKings. He is going to be more owned than the baseline algorithm on Run the Sims has him right
0:14now. I actually don't think the ownership will get too insane on Parker Washington. Some of the projection sites have lagged behind. I mean, 15.2 points
0:23I think is quite fair. 13.8 for Brian Thomas Jr. is way too high. That is sadly going to have to come way back
0:29down. But I mean, Jacob, the huge thing about this matchup is Mr. Christian Gonzalez will probably not be matched up on Parker Washington at all in this
0:38game. It will be all Brian Thomas Jr.
0:40for uh for Christian Gonzalez.
0:42>> Well, except for in uh in in sets where Brian Thomas Jr. is not on the field and then it'll probably be like Jacobe Myers
0:48or Josh Cameron. But uh yeah, totally agree. Um, we talked about the the New England matchup last week with DK Metaf
0:56and how Pittsburgh was kind of unlikely to do anything creative to alleviate that matchup and that was correct. Like I I I just uh when I was watching our
1:06film like Christians basically was across from him on almost every single play and I think it's just hard to do that with Washington because of the way
1:14that he's moved around in motion. They put him in budge formations. They put him in the slot. It's going to be
1:19difficult. So, I think it's it's just a great every week is a great week to be Parker Washington, man. I mean, you get
1:27to be the number one target on your offense. You get to live with this incredible creative offensive coordinator who moves you all around the
1:33formation so you never have any difficult matchups and then you also get to run all the routes. Like truly, he's God's favorite. Parker Washington.
1:42>> It's It's like actually insane how much like even if you I I believe my final preseason ranking on him for seasonal
1:49stuff was 47th overall. I mean that that just looks like laughably low now. Like even as someone who fully bought in like
1:57would you rather have Parker Washington or Drake London for the rest of the year?
2:02>> Well, I just did rest of season rankings this week. I put Parker Washington at wide receiver eight. Yeah, I and and
2:11that is that it's right about where he deserves to go. I I mean, I expect him to easily score 15 16 points per game in
2:18PPR the rest of the way. I think he will get played in cash games this week on DraftKings. The only question you really
2:24have to ask yourself going through this game is >> are the Patriots a SLOG team, Jacob? We we've seen a lot of evidence through two
2:31weeks they might be one of these SLOG teams just like they they take the play clock down to double zero. They spend a
2:37lot of time running the ball on early downs. There's a lot of punting. There's a lot of like like the Patriots last
2:42year were all good game environments.
2:44Like Drake May's breaking out of the pocket. It's exciting. Trevan Henderson's breaking off these long runs. Like they were they were a fun
2:50team and now I like I feel even for me I feel a bit reactionary being like I don't know about this Drake May stuff. Like that
3:00feels a bit reactionary to me. But uh let me throw it to you. I don't know about this Drake May stuff brother. The
3:05the offense the offense looks pretty pretty bad. I know they easily won last week, but like a lot of teams are easily
3:11beat the Steelers.
3:12>> Yeah.
3:14>> I mean, maybe part of last week because the Steelers were so uncompetitive and and that New England got that fumble
3:20pick fumble recovery touchdown and they got the Henderson run and so they kind of just didn't have to try.
3:25>> But it it is weird. I mean, you could in some ways blame it on the AJ Brown injury, but they didn't have AJ Brown
3:31last year and they still passed a ton and they looked great. So, it's it's definitely odd to see them go this far
3:38into his shell. There's all sorts of conspiracies about Drake May's shoulder.
3:43Is he nursing a secret shoulder injury?
3:45Has he just never recovered from the shoulder injury he had in last year's playoffs? I I don't really know. I think
3:51it's too early to say, but it's it's concerning. He just has not looked quite the same this year so far. And then in
3:59theory, this is a matchup where they could be fun, right? because you have Jacksonville has always been a pass funnel defense. One of the best rundies
4:07in the NFL. The way you want to attack them is by throwing. I also expect Jacksonville will put up points in this
4:13matchup. And so I think New England will have to play a lot more competitively on offense than they did last week against
4:19just kind of a hopeless Steelers team.
4:21So I think that there's paths for this game to get pretty fun. But it will depend on Drake May playing well like
4:29better than he has. I think the most interesting thing, like may maybe not even for DFS because I think the answer
4:35for DFS is you just ignore both of them, but the most interesting thing about the game is what in the world do we do with
4:42the Patriots running back projections?
4:46Like how do we expect things to look after last week? And would you consider playing any of them in DFS? My my answer
4:52on the last question would be no, but I'm still curious on what you think the the breakdown will be between them. I
4:59would consider playing Trevian Henderson because I do think that one of the things that if they are a good self- scouting team and I don't know if the
5:09Patriots are a good self- scouting team or not would be that Henderson obviously is going to be the better early down
5:16rusher than Randre just because a greater proportion of his runs are going to be explosive runs. Even if even if you do get a fair amount of two yard
5:24carries from both of them which is does seem to be the case. I mean, Henderson had the 39 yard rushing touchdown last
5:30week and then I believe he had 28 rushing yards on all of his other attempts and I think he got 14 attempts.
5:36So, not a ton of explosion there.
5:38However, you know, the rate of explosive plays handing the ball to Arandre or even throwing the ball to Arandre is going to be lower. This is a competitive
5:46game. This is a game they uh for like tiebreaker purposes, playoff purposes, I think they would really really like to win this game in general. So, I do
5:55wonder if in these spots a little bit more of the work tilts that way. And the the bounceback was immediate, right?
6:01Like Raandre fumbles and that's it. You you become Sage P Rin once you fumble.
6:06They've now had a week to sit there, watch the film, think about what they want to do. You know, I I probably can't
6:13quite get to playing Trevion, who is 5,200 just because there's a lot of good running back plays this week.
6:20But if he's like, it would actually not surprise me if he ends up simming okay because >> because of the explosive plays and
6:27because he's 5200 and because he will be like sub 2% because he >> does not project well in our stuff. He
6:33doesn't project well in ETR. He just is not going to project that well. And I I don't know. I mean, we've seen him do it
6:40so many like he has had now in his career in what uh 17 total games or I guess 18 total games, he has had now six
6:50touchdowns of 39 or more yards, which is that's a very high rate of occurrence of that for a young running back.
6:58>> Yeah, if I was going to play either, it would definitely be him. uh just kind of leaning into the range of outcomes and
7:04the chance for the explosive plays where even if he is in a 50/50, he could always rip off uh those massive runs in
7:11a way that Stevenson usually does not.
7:14So, I I agree with that angle. I probably won't play either. I my expectation is Stevenson to lead in snaps and the touches to be fairly
7:21similar is what I think is like the most likely scenario. But I get in DFS if there's low ownership, you want to lean
7:28into the possibility of other scenarios.
7:30Like there's definitely a world where that's wrong and it's, you know, maybe it's 50/50 snaps, but it's Henderson is is 65 35 and touches. That's like that's
7:38a possibility for sure.
7:39>> Yeah. Um and then I mean Brian Thomas Jr. He does feel like I know the matchup's going to suck for him, but
7:46he's 4600 and we're going to go through this, but like the list of other guys at 4600 are a bunch of guys who are not who
7:52have never put anything on film or on uh like in terms of like fantasy points per game. They're like totally like the the
7:59chalk cheap wide receiver this week is someone who's actually very near and dear to both of our hearts, Adai Mitchell. Um and like Brian Thomas Jr.
8:07is just way better than that guy probably. Well, unless unless AD Mitchell has started taking his aderall, in which case AD Mitchell might be
8:14better than Garrett Wilson, which we will uh we will we will get to. All right, this game honestly is just not
8:18really that interesting. It's going to be an early window game. I think it'll be one we don't talk about too much on
8:23the shipcast on Sunday morning. Kansas City and Miami, a very interesting game because you have to say, well, how long does Kansas City try?
8:32Like, is it like the 49ers kept scoring points in the second half? I just don't know what Kansas City will do. I do know
8:39Kenneth Walker is going to be giga mega infinity chalk like he will be as chalky probably as Bejon Robinson was last week
8:47like 30 35% he is 7400 DraftKings dollars he had 10 targets last week he right now is second on the team through
8:55two weeks in targets um the Chiefs proe did rebound last week uh after being what was they they were like they were I
9:04believe they were 32nd in the NFL after week one in PE they're now a positive a POE team. Travis Kelce is 4,500. Worthy
9:12is 4,400. He has more targets so far than Rashi Rice at 6,400. Uh, Jacob, what what say you about my Kansas City
9:20Chiefs?
9:22>> So, I mean, they're throwing more, but they're not really throwing more to the wide receivers. So, it's a little bit of
9:27like a >> um you know, obviously specifically as it pertains to Patrick Mahomes, it's a big positive like in terms of some of
9:35the discussions about like Rice and Worthy, it's like yes, they are throwing more, but almost all of the additional pass attempts are going to Walker and
9:45Johnson and Kelsey. Um and so I don't know that it like makes a huge difference kind of like they could they
9:52could give Walker five additional carriers. They could give him five additional targets. Um it It actually helps Walker. It helps Mahomes. It
9:57doesn't help the receivers. Um I mean they might have a positive POE in this game. They're probably not still going to have that many pass attempts because
10:05they're gonna they're going to win this game um by about a million. Um and they're probably going to do it really
10:11fast. So I I think it's just one of the classic cases of like which Kansas City Chiefs get the touchdowns before we're
10:20watching Chris Latakun or whoever their backup is. These Justin Fields. Justin Fields will be playing in this game, I think, for most of the fourth quarter.
10:27So, who who gets the touchdowns in before the music stops? Um, we also saw last week with Miami, they have no
10:36interest in um trying to play competitively. They they had a minus7 proe in a game that they got completely blown out of the stadium. U they lost by
10:4722 and they had 23 pass attempts. So like they're just content to kind of white flag it if you come in and you
10:54obliterate them quickly. I think Ken Walker is obviously an amazing play this week and every week and I think that if
11:05you wanted to play Patrick Mahomes and you know bet that the touchdowns flow through him and he's the one who throws
11:10four touchdowns before the game is over that that sounds completely reasonable.
11:14I would probably just play him with Walker like you capture all of the touchdowns. Walker's averaging eight targets per game, so it's not like he
11:21can't throw a touchdown to Walker.
11:23That'd be my favorite pairing. Um I think Kelsey's looked better than than he has in years and um he would probably
11:29be a favorite of the pass catchers, but I also thought that was somewhat predictable. The Colts linebacking group is like a complete joke. Um so I I think
11:37that most title >> I mean isn't every positional group for the Dolphins defense also a complete joke? Like a similar a similar degree of
11:44joke?
11:45>> Yeah, fair. Yeah. So, I'll tell you your your the eye test for Kelsey is backed up by the data. Uh Nate Ty tweeted this.
11:53Um he he got the last seven years of NextGen stats data on Travis Kelce to find his average speed and his average
12:01speed as a ball carrier through two games this year is his highest since 2018. So, people are speculating. Travis Kelce got himself in very good wedding
12:11shape and it just carried over uh into into the season. I would rank Chiefs plays Walker first, Kelsey second,
12:20Worthy third, Rice fourth, and Taekwon fifth. But Taekquin, I think, is like legitimately playable. It's just a matter of does he So last week he was
12:29down >> salary. It's got to be >> he's 3,300.
12:32>> Okay, that's fine.
12:32>> I mean, he he is legitimate like he plays full routes. I mean, he is out there. He is out there every down. He he
12:38plays more in his role than MBS or Demarcus Robinson ever did, which I think says a lot about Cyrus Allen and
12:45Jaylen Royals and Noah Gray and Jake Bing stool that they're like these guys are no good. Like let's just play. It's
12:51very funny that most of the NFL has really drifted towards the 12 personnel was like all we were talking about in
12:57the offseason and most teams have done it and the Chiefs actually have gone the other way. The Chiefs have actually said, "No, let's let's try and get as
13:04many fast guys out there as possible."
13:06I I'll do a little cope corner here on Worthy. I mean, I don't even need to cope because he actually finally had a
13:11good fantasy game in just like a very normal way. He does not look very good because he I've realized this um with
13:19Worthy, which is that he's actually too fast.
13:23So when he when he you know these plays that like Josh DS or JSN or like a really good receiver does or Z Flowers
13:31where they are running across the field, they're running horizontally across the field. They have the ability to stop and cut and decelerate and go backwards or
13:40go to the side. Worthy cannot do that at all. Worthy basically cannot decelerate at all. Um maybe someday he will learn.
13:47However, this is a $4,400 guy on a what I expect to be a positive POE offense who's going to run 82% of the routes.
13:54Like, if you just change his name from Xavier Worthy and and called him Devon Vele, I don't even really think it's all
14:00that different. I mean, Vele might be a better NFL wide receiver than Xavier Worthy. Um, I I think he is legitimately
14:06playable. To me, really, the only question is, is it worth doing a Momes Walker Chiefs passcatcher lineup? Do we think they score enough? Do we think the
14:15Dolphins are able to keep it competitive enough to get all of those guys? And >> yes, >> the answer is I don't.
14:21>> Yeah, I just don't really know.
14:23>> Yeah, I don't think it's going to be a remotely competitive game. Like like the only way I mean specifically I don't
14:28think that the Miami Dolphins have any chance to score points. So the only way it's competitive, I think, is like if
14:33the Chiefs offense just inexplicably sucks, which obviously is not what you want for DFS. So, I think if you're playing it in DFS, you're you're kind of
14:42assuming it's going to be like the 49ers last week, which is that they'd score 35 points. They do it very stress-free
14:50fashion.
14:52>> And you just hope that you kind of get the guys that get the touchdowns and that like >> I mean, what you what you need though, I
14:58think, is you need the touchdowns to match the big plays. Like the the way it would fail is like 58 yard pass to
15:07Taekquin Thornton down to the four >> down to the four >> and then Ken Walker gets the touchdown but like he only gets the touchdown. He
15:13doesn't get anything else on that drive and then it's like you know the next drive is a pick six and then it's like
15:21uh Noah Gray somehow gets a one-y touchdown. You're like ah shoot like it's 216 and nobody's at 10 points yet and you know no one's no one's going to
15:31get there. Um, but I I definitely I would play Mahomes and Walker together.
15:35And I think you can add Kelsey or Worthy if you want. Rice at $6,400 is just mispriced. Like his he's a 12% target
15:42share. So, um, we need to see a lot more from his role before we're playing him in the 6K range. I think he's eventually
15:48going to get some of the screens that Worthy is getting because >> like if you look at like Harmon did a a
15:55mid-season report on Rashi Rice. Do you know what what percent not percentile percent his success rate is versus man coverage? This is not percentiles and
16:05not like him out of 100. Just like literally the percent I assume it's like legitimately like 1%.
16:12>> Well, that would assume he's run a 100 routes against man coverage. So that can't be true.
16:16>> Uh percent what? Zero.
16:19>> It's seven. So he's he's won one route against man coverage. I that that is so like that basically I don't think Rashi
16:27Rice physically is any different than the guy he's ever been. I just think the presence of Ken Walker and frankly even
16:33Emma Johnson has just alleviated the need for what Rashi Rice offered which is some people said that in the offseason uh maybe some people that I
16:41podcasted with and those people were right and as someone frankly as someone who was so giga mega bullish on Ken Walker I should have been more like not
16:51that I was like slamming Rashi Rice actually of the Chiefs relevant skill position players I have the least amount of Rashi Rice Walker the most worthy the
16:59second most Kelsey the third most like I I saw that there. I didn't foresee worthy I did not foresee worthy getting
17:08the short area stuff that that to me was likeable >> and and I don't think and I actually don't think that will continue like but
17:16what I was getting to is like and also um Rice's zone success rates even are like way down in Harmon stuff versus
17:22what they've been in the past. He just thinks he's not healthy and like I guess like I don't know like maybe he'll get
17:26healthy. He'll probably get healthier.
17:28Um, I don't know whether he'll get back to like 2024 Rashi or not, but I I think that even despite all of Rashi Rice's
17:38flaws, he is still clearly a better yards after cash player than Xavier Worthy is, who like might be the worst yards after
17:46catch player ever seen, frankly. Um, like he gets tackled by like 180 lb corners by like one arm. It's like kind
17:54of crazy how unable to break tackles he is. So, I'm guessing as Rice gets healthier, he will start to see more of
18:02that stuff. I just think what we'll see less of is the like eight yard hooks and seven yard drags and like all of those
18:10routes that Rice used to get a ton of.
18:12But I do think he'll start seeing some more of the screens. I guess the other option would be they involve EMTT more
18:18and they just throw to the running backs even more but they throw to both of them because I mean I would rather throw
18:23screens to Walker or EMTT than any of these receivers.
18:27>> 100%. Yeah, I'm I'm completely with you there. Uh all right, you know what? A game that uh Justin Herbert really needs
18:36to have a good freaking game here because the discourse the discourse is discoursing uh the Los Angeles Chargers Bills. Stephen Steph Steven Ruiz tweeted
18:45yesterday. Uh I well and this is he tweeted why why do the anti-Herbert people never provide any visual evidence? And I I made the mistake I I
18:55got got I quote tweeted him and I said I can't I like actually can't believe we're still doing this. Like I can't
19:01believe 29-year-old Justin Herbert that we're still getting this discourse. And it was a mistake. I should not have I should not have engaged. That's on me.
19:08Um, but if Justin Herbert stinks against like a pretty bad Buffalo defense again, I I like I mean I'm sure everyone's seen
19:16their schedule now. It's like basically the most preposterous schedule in NFL history. What What do we even do with Harbaugh and McDaniel and Herbert and
19:26all these they're like they could legitimately start 0 and9. I mean the balance of probability would suggest they won't because if you just these are
19:32like weighted coin flips, but it's so bad dude.
19:36>> Yeah. I mean, I understand like I'm I'm going to always be a Herbert defender and like I certainly would be through
19:42two weeks. I he hasn't played great, but I I really do think he's the least of their offensive problems. But I also get
19:49why the Herbert haters like think that the Herbert defenders sound like a bunch of clowns because every year the Chargers add something that we think
20:01will be positive for Herbert and then we say like this is the year and then it like never works. And so it's like I get
20:07what I I I I I get what you guys are saying that like yes, all off season, you know, people like me were very high
20:16on the Mike McDaniel hiring and now we come in and we're saying like Herbert's being failed by his play caller. And
20:23it's like, you know, we actually are admitting that we're wrong. We're just not admitting that we're wrong about the thing that you want us to admit we're
20:30wrong about.
20:32>> I I would like to say I actually did have this thought. I don't know if how many times I ever verbalized it, which
20:37is the best McDaniel ever looked was when he basically got to turn Tua into like an automaton where it was like all
20:45to it was just pointing and clicking.
20:47That's not really the best use of Justin Herbert based on on what I understand.
20:51Like you kind of want to use you you kind of want to give Herbert some artistry. You want to give him some
20:57license. you want to be letting him just rip, you know, uh, 37y frozen rope dots in between the two safeties. Like you
21:07you and that just isn't really the McDaniel thing. It's kind of a weird marriage, right? Where it's like these two people who have been very successful
21:15in two different ways and then asking them to meet in the middle and the results have been very middling thus far. To to that point,
21:26I would like to say it's very possible that just because the Bills defense is so bad and the Bills are going to be up
21:31by so much, Herbert could have himself a 350 yard three touchdown day just via the just via like garbageio time in this
21:40one.
21:41>> I hope so. I mean, did you see um did you see the quote that Justin Herbert had um about Quinton Johnston?
21:52>> Uh no, but I assume it's like the most bearish thing I'm going to ever hear.
21:56>> It is. He was asked if there's a emphasis on getting Quinton Johnston more involved and he responded, "I think he's got a bunch of targets."
22:06>> Oh no, dude. Oh god. Honestly, like the the this the salary combo here of Herbert and uh Aronda Gadston at 3500
22:16I'm I'm pretty into. I will also say if DJ Moore does not play here. You've got Kincaid who basically looks like Trey
22:23McBride but on the Buffalo Bills. Uh you've got Shakir at 4,800. You've got Keon Coleman who did not practice who is
22:314300. Skyler Bell is minimum salary.
22:34Josh Palmer with Liam. Well, it's just like I I dude the the Daltton Concincaid stuff is >> Oh, the Concaid stuff is real. I'm
22:44rolling my eyes at the Keon Coleman stuff. The Concaid stuff in just beautiful.
22:48>> Yeah, but if I mean I guess we have seen Josh Allen have these giga mega >> Oh, yeah.
22:53>> Oh, if more misses if more misses and and Keon plays, then yeah, Keon's Keon's fine.
22:59>> Um, what would like this this game rules what would be your preferred stack in this game? And it rules like not only
23:06because it rules mostly because the Bills are amazing on offense and very questionable on defense, but then the Chargers stuff like even though they
23:16look like a bunch of clowns, you do get some underpriced guys because of the injuries to the tight ends.
23:24>> I don't know. I just like I I'm just so the honestly the only Charger I want to play in this game really is Gadston
23:32because I think he's underpriced for his ceiling and for the role and as far as I can tell the Chargers have not added a
23:39depth tight end. They've not called like Will Dley or Tyler Conklin. I think Tyler Conklin might even be a Lion the
23:46Lions.
23:47>> Yeah. So your your options for backup tight This is this [ __ ] is so funny dude. They're they're backup tight ends.
23:54I mean, first off, their only tight end on the roster right now who's healthy is Gadston. They have Hayden Ruchcci, who
23:59they signed off the practice squad from Jacksonville. They also have another tight end. They signed off the practice squad in Jacksonville. Not a bit. His
24:06name is Patrick Herbert. It's literally Justin's little brother. I would imagine he will probably be activated for this game. And it's like, I don't know how
24:14many snaps can those guys do. Is Scott Matlock hanging around?
24:19>> I have no idea.
24:20>> No, he's not. So, they only have they have the one they have the one fullback.
24:23They have uh >> He stinks, by the way. He's killing their offense. He does nothing. He does nothing. He's He misses so many blocks.
24:31He doesn't add anything. He put He's in motion 78 different ways, which confuses everybody. Like there's um go watch the uh the QB school Patreon Chargers
24:42videos. Like, as a Chargers hater, I think you would find it a really great use of like an hour and a half of your
24:47time to just like chuckle at the Chargers be clowning themselves over and over again. But um I I think my favorite
24:56like if I'm going to play the Herberts, I guess my favorite combination of this h it's tough because my my two my four favorite plays in this
25:05game are two quarterbacks and two tight ends. So I probably will do a half D like I might do a lineup that has both
25:13the tight ends in it. Um and then one of Allen or Herbert. Um, I do also like Lad in this game and I would like more if he
25:23gets in a full practice. I I worry a little bit like Lad already got a full practice on Wednesday, so his snaps were
25:29super reduced last week. He was very obviously their wide receiver won in week one. I'm expecting him to not be limited this week. So, I would be pretty
25:37into the LA play. And then more it's just like I'm a little bit worried that if he plays it would be what we saw from
25:45lad last week which was like limited routes not getting targeted as frequently. I I would need to see a full practice to play him in DFS. But um if
25:54we get that I I would play him. The worst outcome I guess would be if he plays but doesn't get into full
26:01practice. I wouldn't want to play more but then I also wouldn't want to play Shakir or Coleman. So I'd only want to
26:05play King Kade or James Cook. I probably won't want to play any of these jabronies even if DJ Moore is out
26:13honestly. Um I I think I'm just concaid and concaid is my favorite tight end play of the slate and if we get like not
26:22particularly great ownership on or like like not like crazy high ownership on concade like I would think concaid should project whatever Bowers is
26:33getting right now against New Orleans. I would think that his projection should honestly be that good. Um I I'm thinking about making him my gold star play. Uh
26:43just ownership ownership considerations.
26:45All right, the Houston Texans at the Indianapolis Colts really easy for me on the Texans. Uh Daltton Schultz the only playable player. The Montgomery time
26:53share stuff is so brutal that and and I just don't think he'll get a hat-tick again. My guess is that'll be his only
26:58hattick of the season. However, the Colts are Man, Schultz at 4,200. Jesus Christ. I mean, he's gonna be gig.
27:07That'll keep Concincaid from getting >> the fact that Schultz like gets these two weeks without Nico Collins against probably the two worst tight end
27:17defenses in the league is just outstanding. I mean, he's he's just going to do it again.
27:22>> Yeah, >> he's going to eat us.
27:24>> So, he is he is he's he's going to be fed. Uh Josh DS is 5700. He's he's get you're getting uh the the slappy like
27:33people have already been playing him so he's not that cheap. But Peter Peter actually said this better than I did which is like Josh Downs looked like the
27:41best player on the field against the Chiefs. He looked like he looked like JSN West and then you look at the box
27:47four and he had 14 points. So, like, can we translate Josh DS looking like Z Flowers to fantasy points or is it he's
27:56gonna run seven of the most breathtaking routes you've ever seen and and get 12.3 points?
28:02>> Probably the latter. It was really um I mean that game like killed me. um like like Shane Syken like broke my spirit in
28:12that overtime period. But the one thing I'm very happy about is that a national audience got to watch Josh DS run really
28:19sick routes because like yeah he looked he looked so good in that game. Um I mean part of the issue is that without
28:27Alec Pierce um the whole like Shane Stiken mantra of throw to score run to win that is out the window. the the new mantra is run
28:38run run and run some more. They were I think minus 10 proe. I think part of that was obviously they just like had no
28:45faith in their defense to stop Patrick Mahomes or Ken Walker and so they were just trying to eat up as much clock as
28:50possible and juice the variance of the game and that was like I think pretty clearly the correct strategy. But u I
28:56think a large part of it is just without Pierce. Like this passing game is substantially worse. And I know I've been lower on Pierce for fantasy, but
29:05from a real life perspective, it really helps to have a guy who averages like 21 yards per catch on half decent volume
29:12running a ton of routes. And like when that presence is replaced by the presence of Lacoan Treadwell or Darius Sllayton, defenses are not quite as
29:21concerned about getting burnt deep and they are allocating a lot more resources to shorten intermediate zones and to stop Jonathan Taylor. And like now the
29:31Colts weapons are Downs, who is probably the best like the best downfield weapon on the team and he's he's more of a
29:37short intermediate guy. Warren who had a a had negative 13 air yards the other night and then Keenan Allen who dude
29:46like >> he's running he's running routes >> enough I mean that pick that he gave up like was so on him where it's just like
29:55all right man like you're one-on-one like here's a slant against Christian Fulton it's like he got like fathered by Fulton on that route so I think I think
30:03Dance is a totally fine play but if it wasn't like my favorite player on my favorite team. I could probably acknowledge that there's ways where this
30:12fails where like either the offense just gets completely shut down by Houston or actually we win the game, but if we do
30:19then we probably only attempt like 26 passes um and like it's not like downs to some big end zone threat. So, there's
30:26a lot of paths to Josh Downs having 12 or 13 PPR points here and you feeling kind of uninspired. Um I do quite like
30:34Jonathan Taylor. I I like him in in every single matchup basically every week this year and his salary is still pretty darn reasonable.
30:43>> Yeah, I think you're I think you're probably right. I mean, this game is just I I don't think this game is going
30:47to be very fun. I think both these teams just kind of want to run the ball and get through the game and move on. Uh I
30:54mean, big big game for both these teams, I suppose, in terms of win loss type stuff. The Texans >> Yeah.
31:02>> O and two in a division full of 0 and2s.
31:05>> Yeah. Yeah, it's it's very very relevant. I I probably will not be able to resist the siren song of Josh DS's
31:12very very fancy and aesthetically pleasing 12.2 points. It will I'll tell you what, it will feel a lot better than begging DK Metaf to catch a ball, which
31:21I did in a lot of my lineups last week.
31:23Like at least >> at least I'll feel that if Josh Downs is targeted, he will he will catch the ball. Yeah, like I I'm just gonna keep
31:31showing about QB school today, but I he also did one on the Steelers, which was hilarious that he chose to do one on the
31:36Steelers. That is funny.
31:37>> But um but he uh anyways, he he referred to DK Metash catching style as uh someone trying to grab the last crouton
31:49at the salad bar with two wooden spoons.
31:55>> That is so good. That is that is phenomenal. Phenomenal content. Wow. The Seattle Seahawks with maybe Sam Darnold playing according to the most recent
32:05update from Mike McDonald. We will we will see about that. It will certainly be Marcus Mariota starting for the Washington Commanders. The only playable
32:14player in this entire game to me is myth Mr. uh Smith and Jigba. Your question just being what does his projected
32:22ownership end up relative to the other very high point guys? because the the uh commander secondary has not covered themselves in glory. Just gave up a huge
32:33game to CD Lamb the week before that.
32:37Gave up a big game to Dantavian Wixs actually, which is very funny. I mean, they're just they're just a really bad
32:43secondary. But like Price, even assuming that Price plays, I was into him last week. I assumed that he was going to
32:50rest the short yardage work away from Emanuel Wilson. That did not happen. In fact, Emanuel Wilson got promoted.
32:55George Helani got demoted. So looking like I will probably end up being wrong about Jerian Price. They are in no way,
33:02shape or form going to unleash him. I don't think >> I'm not quite as sure about that. I thought Price had a meaningfully better
33:09role before he went out. He he was out touching Wilson uh 14 to7 at the time that he went out. He started every
33:16single drive that even included the drive right after a fumble. Like um he seemed like he was the very clear lead
33:22to me on early downs. I know Wilson got that goal line sequence. Price did get a carry at the seven um before Wilson got
33:32the three from the four in and then Price also got another carry at the five later in the game. So I I don't like I'm
33:39not so sure that this goal line split is that different from like Bree Hall Brilin Allen where Bree is very liable
33:47to get touches from the three or the four but yeah it's probably Brilin if it's literally at the one. Um, so I I'm
33:54still into Price. I I we'll need a full practice for sure, but I think we're going to get it. He already practiced
33:59yesterday.
34:00So full practice. I think Price would be in my player pool. Like whether he makes it into a lineup, I'm not really sure.
34:06There's other good running back options.
34:07But I I I like directionally would like to be on the side of buying on Jarian Price because I think last week was more
34:15bullish than market sentiment believes.
34:17Um the only like the only other guy I would play in this game would be JSN. I don't think I want to play any of the
34:23Washington side with Marcus Marriota against the Seattle defense. That that feels like we're getting like 47 plays and seven points.
34:33>> It's going to be really tough. I I would like for Stefon Diggs to continue his ascension as an old man, showing that it
34:40can still be done. Two touchdowns last week. Very good for the best ball bags.
34:44Not interested in playing him here. I mean, I would be very interested in playing the $3,800 Seattle Seahawks defense. The only issue is unlike uh
34:50well the freaking Buccaneers defense did not work last week. Um no shout out to to Baker Mayfield and the the I like I
34:59haven't even looked at Survivor stuff yet this week because of my few remaining teams. I'm just so bummed out about the the run out last week. Just
35:07absolutely horrible.
35:09Don't really have anything else to say about this game. The Tennessee Titans at the New York Football Giants. So this is
35:15frankly if you had the answer to this question um you you will be able to generate yourself at least some theoretical Sims dollars this week
35:22because if we get old Jamus you know I miss the old Jamus the I don't care if I throw a pick Jamus the I'll throw a 37y
35:31Hail Mary to Malik Neighbors Jamus if we get that Jamus he's one of the best plays of this late Neighbors is a good play despite the
35:38shoulder injury likely is a good play fields is probably fine you know whatever however the recent vintages of Jamus, including the Browns version of Jamus, the New
35:49Orleans Saints version of Jamus, and the version of Jamus that we saw on Monday Night Football against Rams. You know, basically people are pegging all of the
35:56Jamus stuff on oh what uh uh the the Detroit Lions game, 366 yards, two touchdowns last year. Basically every other start we've
36:07got out of Jamus other than the they had a snow game on Thursday night football at the Browns. He was awesome. But his
36:13yards per game as a passer in the last four years is below 200 when he's gotten starts.
36:21>> I don't know, man. I I don't know if I can do $4,000 J. It is a good matchup.
36:26>> I mean, he was still pretty fun on the Browns for that stretch just based on like Yeah, like he was horribly inefficient,
36:37but he was still just like plunging catchable air yards out there. I mean, he still had that Broncos game, didn't he? Didn't he have like 500 yards and
36:46four touchdowns and four picks against the Broncos or something when he was at the Cleveland with with the Cleveland? I think he I think it was like a Monday
36:53night game, wasn't it?
36:55>> We're going to find out. I will pull up his Pro Football reference page. Uh, so Cleveland would have been what year?
37:012024. It would have been 2024 cuz it was the year that Jerry Judy like went nuts.
37:06>> He did. He did indeed have >> Yeah. Broncos 34 of >> four 497 and four with three picks.
37:12Yeah. Like I want that dude back. I don't know if that dude exists. Um >> his arm looks pretty shot.
37:21>> Yeah, it I guess the variance with him is so wide. Like it's so funny. Like literally the week before that game he
37:27goes 18 for 27, 219, zero touchdowns, one interception, you know?
37:33Yeah, the variance is high. I mean, I guess the big issue that I would have is that Kevin Stfansky like was willing to call high pass rate
37:41teams prior to Jamus and then with Jamus you really dial it up and Harbaugh like his preference would
37:52be to not do that. I guess the question is do your preferences matter when your quarterback is Jameus Winston? Like I I
37:58do feel like to some degree these quarterbacks like a Joe Flacco or a Jameus Winston almost just necessitate a certain style of offense because nothing
38:06else works.
38:07>> Nothing else works.
38:08>> Like I I mean I don't think that Shane Stiken like if you had asked him before a lot of the Flacco games like hey is
38:13your plan to drop back 48 times today.
38:15Like he probably would have said no that's not the plan but it just kind of ends up happening. And so I wonder if
38:21maybe that's just what we fall into. And then there was a lot of commentary on Jav's arm being dead. I mean, it looked
38:28pretty darn dead. I guess like what I would wonder is has his like has his arm ever been that great? Like it was really great with the
38:37Bucks early on. I don't think it was actually that great with Cleveland either. Like I don't know that he necessarily actually has like a particularly
38:47good deep ball ability. He just kind of heaves like balls downfield like in a the vague direction of the receiver and
38:56like that's usually kind of helpful and fine. I don't know. I I'm very conflicted on what we'll see out of Jamus. If if he's like not very owned
39:06because everyone is saying, "Okay, Harbaugh's just going to keep him in check and it's going to go terribly."
39:11then I would like to play him some because I do think that there's some upside that that like no one can change
39:18the Jamus experience. But if everyone is assuming, oh my god, it's Flamus, like we're we're getting 50 drop backs, 350 yards, three picks, three touchdowns,
39:28then it's like, okay, I I'm going to bet the other side of it. So, I'm just curious, sorry, what the market does.
39:35>> I would I would guess uh pretty early. I would guess he actually does not end up getting played. I I would think that his
39:42projections are going to be low enough around that he just is not going to project that well. Therefore, he will not sim that well, therefore he will not
39:49play that well. Neighbors, I don't think is going to project that well. If Neighbors had not gotten banged up and $6,500 Neighbors was fully healthy, like
39:57raring, good to go, then I think that probably would again, it probably would be a a different thing. It doesn't look
40:04like we're doesn't look like that's happening, which is a huge bummer. Uh, but I mean Jamus basically projects the same as Gino and Gino is in a much
40:14better game. Not not maybe not a better matchup, but a much better game and has two healthy stacking options. Um, that
40:22you know and people like Isaiah likely, but I don't know if they like him enough to get to get Jamus in there. I it does
40:29feel kind of silly to waste a Jamus spot. Although I mean we will probably get big answers on if the Jamus experience still exists on if
40:39Flameus can still be found cuz if he does have a crazy game here. Although I do wonder if the games you want Jameus
40:45in are not these like not the one that the Giants can win with him just handing the ball off to Scataboo and Naji
40:52Harris. Like they could still win this game pretty easily. I wonder if you want Jamus as a nine and a half point dog
40:57throwing pick sixes against the Eagles or whatever. That that feels more what you want the Jamus stuff.
41:06Yeah. Yeah. I I agree. Right. And so it could just be like this could be a game that they just actually dominate, right?
41:12And then you don't get any of it. So >> yeah. Which would be >> like who who do you prefer out of um
41:16Likely and Schultz?
41:19>> Uh I prefer I prefer Schultz.
41:22>> I'm with you.
41:22>> I prefer I prefer Schultz by a lot. I I just I am having a I am having a hard time
41:30buying into the likely thing. I I know.
41:33I guess I should. Everyone else is buying in, but I'm I'm having a hard time with it personally. He still is not
41:38playing all the red zone snaps. Still is not run blocking. I don't know. It seems to be a bit of an issue. Uh the
41:43Cincinnati Bengals traveling to play at the Pittsburgh Steelers. Jaylen Warren plays a careerhigh in snaps last week.
41:5250 offensive snaps, the most he's ever played. Rico Dowel toe injury seen in a boot on Wednesday. I would guess that
42:00Mr. Dael is not playing. Uh Jaylen Warren for for all intents and purposes looks like basically the best play at running back on this slate. Maybe
42:09outside of of one Mr. Kenneth Walker.
42:12The question is I I don't believe we've actually ever gotten a Jaylen Warren spot like this where where Naji or his
42:18or Gainwell >> No, Naji refused to get hurt. It was so annoying.
42:23>> There was a couple weeks where he was on the injury report and like oh my god it's going to happen and then it'd be
42:26like oh like he's going to play. was like, "Ah, who needs this?"
42:30>> Um, so maybe Rico is going to do the same thing to us. But I I agree. It sounds like Rico is on the D side of Q
42:37and Jill Warren would be an outstanding play. Um, if that's the case, absolutely.
42:44>> Yeah. I I I would be down I would think he would probably be like in almost every lineup play. Like he's a better
42:51play than Aaron Jones was last week at similar salary. Yeah.
42:56>> Yeah. cuz cuz the Vikings don't throw to backs.
42:58>> Yeah.
42:59>> Um even though Aaron Jones is a good pass catcher, they just don't really throw to backs systemically.
43:04>> But Aaron Rogers will throw backs as much as humanly possible. So yeah, I think with Warren, he's also looked really good this year. He's like way
43:10better than Dow. I think he should be getting more of the work anyway. Yeah, we could we could pretty much pencil in
43:15like 16 17 carries and five to seven targets for Jaylen Warren and all the goal line work. I'd be pretty excited.
43:24haven't gotten uh have not seen an update on Michael Pitman Jr. yet. I do want I like I think he'll probably be
43:30out again. Um would you play Muth? Would you play Would you play Jeremy? I mean Jeremy is I I suppose probably
43:37>> I think I think play. He practiced yesterday.
43:40>> Okay. Well, there you go. Never mind. Uh and then last week was a crazy good Jamar Chase spot just because he was
43:46only about 12% owned. Uh I don't know. I don't know if I view this as as the same. I mean, he's a he's a good player,
43:54the same that he always is. Uh although these AFC North divisional games do tend to just be like some of the most boring,
44:01least fun football slogs of all time.
44:04Like it's I mean, this game is totally fine and it's totally fine to play Chase, but I don't think this is like a
44:09slam dunk Chase spot or anything.
44:13>> Yeah, he's he's always in play because he's Jamar Chase. I think the one guy on Cincy that I think would be I mean I
44:20don't know we live in like a projection based world now but Tiggins has just had like um really good usage I think
44:27through two weeks and has not like erupted cuz he hasn't scored a touchdown and he had a couple close calls taken
44:34away in the first game and then they just haven't been forced to like throw a lot yet. I mean they probably won't be
44:39forced to throw a lot yet here. I don't expect Pittsburgh to put up a whole ton of resistance, but I do think TE's
44:44underlying usage is float a little bit under the radar. So, I think he's going to he's due for a blowup spot, I think,
44:51in the next week or two.
44:53>> All right. I love I I I like the call. I like the I like a a good do T- spot. Uh
44:59All right. A game that is just like I think is actually going to end up being quite owned. The Detroit Lions in uh for
45:05them what is a must-win spot against the Jets. their their season's going to be real sideways if they if they find a way
45:11to lose to the Jets. But we've got Gibbs at 8,800 which is again just very interesting because I actually don't think his ownership is going to be
45:19insane this week like it was in week one. Like week one it was like I think he was like 55% owned in the spy or
45:24something. I don't think that will happen to him this week. I think St.
45:28Brown will draw some of it. St. Brown an absolutely nuclear start to the year with four touchdowns. Jameson Williams has been awful. Then on the other side
45:35of this game, you've got Adnai Mitchell actually has one more target than Garrett Wilson this year. Garrett Wilson is 6,300. He does score the touchdown
45:42last week. Adnai Mitchell is 4,300 coming off of an 11. I think he had 180 air yards in that game and drew one uh
45:50big deep DPI. Adnai Mitchell is your chalk cheap wide receiver of the week.
45:55Surely that has never gone wrong before and will not go wrong here. Surely he will just easily uh you know focus in
46:01and provide value. And then you've also got Gino at 4,900. I mean I do think I think I would rather play Gino than
46:09Jamus even if the the volume will not be the same.
46:13>> Yeah, I agree with you. I would definitely rather play Gino. I think I mean I think the volume is going to get
46:17there because I I think that they're probably going to fall behind pretty rapidly and then they're going to have to keep up. So, I'm in on on the Gino
46:26play for sure. And I'm I'm definitely I think I mean I don't even think you need to choose between AD and Garrett. I
46:33think you just play a both. Personally, that that'd be my first preference. You know, if you prefer to play Bree and and
46:40one of the wide receivers, I think that's also completely reasonable. Um I expect Bree will get plenty of work in the pass game here as well and makes him
46:49very stackable with Gino. And then Mason Taylor's going to miss. I think that's probably one of the big questions on the
46:54slate is um as it pertains to tight end like obviously going to be a lot of ownership on Schultz. Kelsey's interesting likely
47:03is interesting.
47:05>> Spend up guys are interesting but like could do you think that we're going to get 80% routes Kenyan Sadi without Mason
47:12Taylor or are they going to use Rucker in the Mason Taylor role and then going to get a rug pull?
47:19>> We'll get more snaps. we'll get more routes, but it just doesn't seem to be the way. It it feels like everyone maybe
47:27kind of took the wrong message from the the the rushing touchdown in week one.
47:30Like, oh, dude, I didn't think I was going to get basketball points from Kenyan Sadi in week one. But it's also
47:34like, okay, we know this guy's really good and we want to use him, but we have to use him in these hyperspecific
47:40designed ways because we just don't trust him to be a full-time tight end. I I would imagine we are going to see a
47:45lot of uh Jeremy Rucker and Moali Cox in in this game. We'll see a decent amount of uh Andrew Beck in this game who is
47:56listed as a fullback but says he practices with the tight ends. I mean, we'll see. I I would love to be able to
48:01play Kenyan Sadi here, but I think it is probably just a little bit too fancy.
48:04And he's he's not minimum salary. If he was 2500, I probably would have been into it, but he is 3500. So, probably
48:11just probably just play Daltton Schultz.
48:13probably just play. He's the same price as a Ronda Gadston who is just like a way better a way better play. I I mean
48:19Garrett Wilson is going to end up being the leverage play in this game because the chalk is going to condense on Gibbs
48:25St. Brown 80 Mitchell and then what what percentage of people are going to go back to the J Mo well or is this going
48:31to be one of the weeks that you can actually play J Mo at like 6% instead of 12%?
48:35>> I'm going back. I'm going back. I'm going back.
48:38>> You got to try. Sell me. Sell me on it.
48:41Well, it's just this like this is what Jameson Williams is. Like we all know what Jameson Williams is.
48:46>> Like I I'm sorry. Did you expect something different? You were expecting Jameson Williams was going to have, you know, a floor of 14 points per game
48:55every every week. Like no. If he did, he would have gone in round two. I mean, the reason he was a round five pick was
49:01that you are getting one of the higher ceilings in the league, but that comes with being frustrated half the time. I
49:10mean, his usage in week one was incredible. He dropped several footballs and he ruined like what should have been a blowup game um into a very mediocre
49:21performance and then he also got tackled on the one which wasn't his fault. And then week two was just kind of the
49:26classic Jameson Williams experience which is like some games he gets lost in the sauce especially because they're trailing basically the entirety of the
49:34game. They're down 21 nothing immediately. And yeah, when you're down that much, like the defense isn't going to give up big plays down the field.
49:42They're going to make you earn it one first down at a time. Burning clock on along the way. And that means that the
49:47targets are going to go to Almanra and Gibbs and Leaporta. It's not really going to go to JMO. Um, I expect them to
49:52play from ahead in this game. I expect they'll have more opportunities for big plays in this game. I think JMO is a is
49:59a pretty pretty nice play. I mean, it's not you're not really getting much of a discount on the salary, unfortunately.
50:045,400. It's like completely normal salary, but I will probably try to play some JMO. And I'm definitely into playing Garrett. Like, I I don't I'm I'm
50:14not buying the uh like that that AD is the one or or whatever. I mean, I think that also like we we have to we have to
50:22be cognizant of the fact that AD Mitchell's rate of converting air yards into real yards remains highly >> below. Yeah, highly highly variable.
50:32>> Highly highly variable. Yes. Yeah. Most most certainly.
50:35>> But I think he's obviously a very good player. Yeah. He's going to get a bunch of targets.
50:39>> Yes. Uh the Carolina Panthers traveling to play against the Cleveland Browns. We we have basically uh one play from this
50:47game unless you want to be a cokehead, which is well Chuba Hubard and the Carolina Panthers defense priced at 3,000. I will be going back to the well
50:55and the Panthers defense. And frankly, Chuba Hubard with no thorns in his side playing as a favorite. The the Panthers are number one in the NFL through two
51:04weeks in Pier Oe. Bryce Young is cooking. Some of my reservations from last week look really silly. Uh Josh Norris reached out to let us both know
51:15that the plan is to let Bryce Cook basically regardless. And this is frankly the the defensive quality here is about as bad as the Bears defense
51:22that they absolutely sliced and diced in week one. they'll be playing with a lead in this game.
51:30>> I I love the Bryce film so far. Um and and to back up how he looks, he in his first three seasons of his career, he
51:40had three total games with 8.0 yards per attempt or higher. He's now hit that mark in his first two games of the
51:47season. So, he could he could match his career total this week.
51:52Uh, I like was not particularly impressed with the Browns. I'm super tilted that they ruined all my survivor pools. I think that that was mostly just
52:02Baker missing open guys repeatedly. I don't think it was like the Browns secretly having a great defense.
52:09I think that Carolina is probably going to thrash this team and I think they're probably going to look pretty good doing
52:14it. I'm into all of the main four Carolina Panthers. I mean, they're like they're fun. They're kind of like the Teeu Cowboys right now where you have
52:24>> very much the Teeu Cowboys. Yeah.
52:27>> Yeah. Like you have a fun like pass focused team with two really great receivers and you have like a running
52:35back who's not that inspiring but he gets all of the touches and is good enough and then you have, you know, a
52:43pocket quarterback who's willing to sling it pretty accurately. So, yeah, it's it's a really really fun team to play for DFS and I'm I'm definitely I'm
52:53definitely going to be into it. I suspect I'm going to be into it all year.
52:57>> Um I have not gotten there as much with the Coker stuff and I talked about this on the show last week. Like it's just
53:03one of these fantasy football memes that passed me by and and the data is demanding that we take it seriously. I
53:09mean, do we do we want to talk about Conpion or Boston? The the usage for both of them has been quite good. It's
53:14just I mean Boston just keeps scoring these touchdowns. He he looks great Denzel Boston does. But uh what are your what are your thoughts there?
53:23>> I'd probably rather play KC just because I assume most people would rather play Boston off of the off of the touchdowns.
53:30But if that's a wrong read by the time we get to Sunday, I would switch it. I'm happy playing either of them as a bring
53:34back. Um you know who I won't play is Quinn Shodkitz. He needs to average four yards per carry one single time before I
53:42play him again.
53:44I don't, you know, I don't want to say it's Jover for Chudkins, but I think that I will say it's it's certainly on
53:51pause for for Chudkins right now. Like I like So, we're in that we're in that Yahoo League together, the Roto World
53:56one.
53:57>> And I I am sitting Judkins on my bench for Tferg. Like, you got to you got to you got to show me something, brother.
54:03And I I'm seeing very little. A game I I wish I could answer what I think is going to happen in this game, but what a
54:10what a bizarre game. the Minnesota Vikings with Kyler back again. We've seen about six plays with Kyler at quarterback. Then they played the
54:18monsoon last week or traveling to play at the Tampa beer Tampa Bay Buccaneers coming off a loss to the Cleveland Browns. You've got this insane blitz
54:27heavy defense from floors. You've got Jefferson, who I actually think after last week, I don't do not think he will be 15% owned. I think you'll see single
54:35digits on $7,500 Justin Jefferson. Aaron Jones is now listed as questionable. He injured his knee last week and then came back in with a brace on. Don't know if
54:45he's going to be able to play. What do they go DJ Dallas? Do they just say we cannot win with DJ Dallas, so let's do
54:51Deont Clayborn? Do they I I don't know what they do. The only guy I know for sure who's a good play in this game is
54:58uh Maris Bucky Irving at 6,300 DraftKings dollars.
55:03>> Yeah, love Bucky Irving. Uh he was seventh among all running backs in snap rate last week. Looks super dynamic.
55:10getting work in the run game, getting work in the pass game. The only thing we still haven't seen is like what happens
55:15if they get down to the one yard line, but I I don't see anything that suggests that like there would be a designated
55:21goal line back. I think Bucky will probably receive the majority of the goal line work just like he receives a majority of the work for uh my friends,
55:30the Shawn Tucker Bros. Uh he was uh played no snaps last week while active.
55:36We'll see if that continues. So, love Bucky.
55:41I I'm going to need I Bua's price to drop quite a bit before he enters my consideration set. I would potentially
55:49play Ted Hurst at 3K. He continues to be very involved. Uh so, if you need to like really save salary, that's kind of
55:55fun. But probably I would just be looking at Bucky. And then I don't know what's going to happen with the Vikings
56:00running backs. Like if Aaron Jones is active, I think I just have other guys I prefer playing like $1,500. I don't feel like
56:08I'm getting any sort of discount there.
56:10If he's not active, I have no idea what to make of it. Like I mean they're going to be cheap, but I'm probably just not
56:17even going to bother. Like I what would it be like some committee between Jerome Ford, De Man Claybourne, and DJ Dallas
56:22against the Tampa Runy? Like that's just a no thanks for me.
56:26I do think that probably the idea would be let's play DJ Dallas until it becomes unviable. Like their plan would be for
56:36every touch to be for DJ Dallas and then it's like okay DJ's tired. We got to get him out of there or DJ has absolutely
56:43nothing. Let's see what Claybourne can do. Like >> that can't be DJ Dallas. That's not a plan. That's a bad plan. If the if the
56:50if I think that's most certainly the plan because if the plan was not for DJ Dallas then Deon Claybourne would have
56:56been a bigger part of the plan last week because you I mean we talked about >> the plan last week was Aaron Jones
57:01because the plan was dear God I don't want to play any DJ Dallas or >> but we talked about this last week the
57:07plan it's a bad it's a bad idea it was a bad idea to give Aaron 24 touches it was like a it was like a bad idea going in
57:14>> just like it was a bad idea to run 82-year-old Joe Biden for president like it didn't work >> it didn't it didn't work. It did not
57:21work at all. And I think that that that shows to me that their plan would just be to do the same with DJ Dallas cuz cuz
57:26they could have given Deon Claybourne more touches last week in the >> But they could have given Dallas more touches. They didn't want to do that
57:32either.
57:33>> I mean, Dallas played a lot more than Claybourne did. I think he got like 15 snaps. Claybourne got two, I believe, in
57:38the end.
57:39>> I thought it was like eight and four. I I don't I could be wrong.
57:42>> Maybe that No, you you could be right. I just I remember being excited that Claybourne got a rush at all. I was
57:48like, "Okay, let's go. We got Dean Claybourne season."
57:51>> I you're you're right that probably none of them are a play. And frankly, I also wouldn't really want to play Aaron Jones
57:56because Minnesota does not throw the ball to their running backs and the Tempe Run defense is >> Oh, eight. So, you were right about the
58:02two, but I was right about the eight.
58:04Yeah, eight and two.
58:05>> Um Ted Hurst route participation for a $3,000 player is really good. The >> the the sad thing is is he uh dropped
58:14what would have been the uh the game winner.
58:16>> Oh. You think I'm not aware of that?
58:20>> You think I didn't see that play?
58:22>> Not not ideal there. But Jaylen McMillan is back and playing um and just not playing. He played C. He he played six
58:31snaps last week.
58:33>> I mean, I'm guessing he will eventually work up into a larger role, but like I don't know. I would be surprised, I
58:39guess, if he went from I'd be surprised if he went from missing practice and games for six weeks to six snaps to 50 snaps. Like that, it seems I
58:50I wouldn't have even been that surprised if he played 50 snaps last week, but knowing that the baseline was six, I'm
58:56I'm guessing that he has either just been passed by or that they have a slower ramp up plan in mind for him. And
59:03I mean there's some TZ snaps that Jel McMillan could come for before he even gets to the Ted Hurst snaps. So I'm I'm
59:09not that worried about Ted Hurst snaps.
59:11And frankly, they need Ted Hurst because Chris Gobin looks very slow. And Amecha Ibuka like I don't know just
59:22>> he doesn't he just doesn't do it for me.
59:24Like that's like a very it's a very Davis Mat analysis, but like I just he does not do it for me.
59:29>> He doesn't do it for me either, man. I'm I'm with you. It just like he he has felt like I just have not been able to
59:34get with the market on Guka this whole time. I I just I've been I've been out.
59:39I I'm I'm actually with you on that one.
59:42He just doesn't look draw targets like run like he just does not seem like a receiver that like you know he's being
59:50drafted next to Jaylen Wadd and Lad Maki and these guys and I'm like okay I see it with these guys way more than I see
59:56it with Ibuka.
59:58>> Yeah. I I like uh would will you be playing Kyler and Jefferson? I assume yes. You love >> Yes. And in fact, Kyler Kyler is going
60:05to find himself being very very popular because he is very likely to be the cash game quarterback. And anytime that someone is the cash game quarterback,
60:14they are just going to be a little bit more owned than you would um anticipate.
60:19>> Yeah.
60:20>> I guess that's my concern is that this game builds itself in too obvious of a way, right? It's just Kyler Bucky
60:24Jefferson.
60:25>> Kyler Bucky. If you want to play this game, that's how you play the game. Then it's like, okay, maybe throw on Hawk or
60:30something. But >> yes. Yeah. Uh, all right, let's move on to the next game, which is the Arizona Cardinals at the San Francisco 49ers.
60:39Uh, I I mean, I'm pretty done playing uh Arizona players. I mean, McBride obviously is a good play. So, interesting spots here. Does Evans play
60:49after injuring his hip last week? I would guess yes, but Demarcus Robinson is going to be out, which means I think
60:56probably a increased reliance on KD. His route scaled up. He scored a touchdown last week. He's only 4,800. Quite nice.
61:04You also have, I mean, legit 3K guys.
61:07You have Jordan Watkins. You have Jacob Cowing. It was Cowing who played last week as the the third wide receiver. The
61:1549ers look fully operational on offense.
61:17I mean, just total Death Star mode uh engaged for the first two weeks of the season. The CMC usage rebounded last
61:24week as was the most obvious thing of all time. And CMC, well, just, you know, given the proximity to Jir Gibbs, the
61:31the week one anchor effect. I mean, this like we're going to be talking about CMC losing work to Caleb Black in like week
61:38seven because people saw it on Netflix on the opening game of the season and Christian McCaffy will like easily be the second highest scoring player uh in
61:46fantasy. And then you know what? Mr.
61:48Perty, dude, just Pury is just good. I just want like this guy is so good. I I mean, he's an awesome play here. Stack
61:54him with whoever you want on the 49ers, I think.
61:58>> Yeah, this is this is a pretty simple situation. The the only Cardinal that I would ever consider playing here is Trey
62:03McBride. Um, every week I think Trey McBride is a great play and then I'm like, ah, I don't want to spend that
62:08much at tight end and then I find another thing to do and he's he's awesome. Um, so I don't know if I'll get
62:14there again. But I mean, most other than McBride, I'm just playing ners and like take your pick, you know? It's like
62:24Pury, Debo, KD, Evans, if he gets in a full practice, is fine, but he's really overpriced, I think. So, pro probably
62:31mostly into Perty, CMC, KD, and then maybe Debo if Evans is out. But all all these guys are really fine. I think
62:38they're going to put a bunch of points on Arizona.
62:41>> Yeah. Yeah. I'm uh I'm I'm with that.
62:44Do you do you have a thought between cowing Watkins Cadrell Haj?
62:51>> Yeah.
62:52>> Uh, no. No. I think it would just like No, Dro. If Evans doesn't play, I just think it's just going to consolidate
63:00more and more volume on CMC Kill Depot.
63:03Like I'm sure I'm sure one of these guys will get a couple of targets, but I'm not playing them.
63:08>> So, historically, it's gone one of two ways.
63:12the volume entirely consolidates on the good players to the point that like Cowing and Watkins and Cadral Hodgej receive no catches, no targets. It's
63:23pure empty calories. Or >> every once in a while Shanahan will gift us a 10 for 186 and one from Richie
63:30James, a Kendrick Bourne backtoback hundredyard game out of absolutely nowhere. I have no way of knowing uh which one of these that it my guess
63:39would be with KD and Debo there. I I would guess it would just be a huge consolidation particularly for Debo like
63:48Debo could have like 11 receptions or something. Uh I I think so. But I don't the Evans ro I guess the the Evans role
63:56is the one that again historically that role has been the one that more random guys have popped in than in the Debo I
64:03role. But who would even play that role?
64:05Because like theoretically next up would be Stribbling and then next up would be D-Rob, but they're all gone. Like Jordan Watkins maybe.
64:16>> It'd be Jordan Watkins, >> I guess. I don't I have a hard time thinking Jordan.
64:20>> Isn't Jordan Watkins just our generation's Richie James also punt?
64:24>> Could be.
64:24>> Yeah, >> could be. I mean, he did have exactly the Richie James game like for Lane Keifin in uh college one time where
64:34after Trey Harris was out for the season, he had um like truly one of the wildest games and I'm like saying this
64:42really slowly so I can stall. He had Yeah, it was Here's the game. It was right after Trey Harris went out for the
64:49year. He played Arkansas. He had eight for 254 and five.
64:54>> That's a really good game. So, if he has eight for 254 and five here, he's probably in the optimal.
65:01>> I'm I'm I'm I'm into I'm into that.
65:04Yeah, I'm I'm very into that, actually.
65:06I I think I think I mean, we're not going to Well, actually, you know what?
65:10We will know. We will know about Evans.
65:12We We'll get information on that. He's not going to be a game.
65:14>> We'll get the Shaft overnighter for sure.
65:16>> Yes. Uh the Las Vegas Raiders against the New Orleans Saints. My my real interesting way to diagnose this one is
65:26Genty has a mediocre fantasy game last week. Not like a terrible game or anything uh in a game that the Raiders
65:32win.
65:34Does does that take his ownership at 7100 from 15 20% down to like 8 n%.
65:42Because I would love >> I would love to just play Ashen Genty every slate for the rest of the year.
65:47This guy is so [ __ ] good at football.
65:49It's crazy. Yeah, I wish he was good enough of football to have not dropped three catches last week, but I'm I'm not
65:55that worried about him long term. I think that would have happened in the past. I think people are just going to
66:00look at the uh the 21 carries and the seven targets and just keep jamming it probably is more how we how we play DFS
66:08these days. Um either way, I think he's a great play and I will be into him. Um I'm I mean I'm just going to keep
66:16playing this shock train probably until the wheels fall off. like I'm I'm open to Shak L Vle or Jawan like that seems to be a
66:26viable way to play every week. Um I'm I'm curious for two spots from your perspective.
66:34One is will you play Brock Bowers first week back which was famously an incredible thing to do last season. Um, and then
66:44two, if Travis CTN misses this game, he was limited with a hammy on Wednesday.
66:52What could get you to play Alvin Chimera in 2026?
66:55>> No, nothing. Nothing. Because we've already seen we've already seen why Chimera would not be a play, which is there would be some there would be some
67:04running back we don't even know who would end up getting touches. Like it'd be like, okay, well CJ Donaldson is going to play the Chimera role. that
67:10Cimera will play the ETN role and then let's go, you know, let's go to the Saints depth chart and figure out what
67:15running back >> or Kre just get repromoted.
67:17>> We would learn um Zamir White >> Zamir White is on the practice squad. So yeah, there you go. I mean they it's
67:24already over. Like no, there's no chance I would play Alvin Chimera when >> that's the correct answer because I mean Chimera's best outcome is probably
67:32having the week one ETN role that he had without Chimera and that role sucked.
67:37That roll was >> um Chimera, by the way, last week 14 touches for 22 yards. Awesome stuff.
67:44>> Yeah, really, really bad. Really, really, really, really not ideal there.
67:48Um, so the the Vle and Alb stuff is fascinating because I mean they're they're both having a great start to the
67:56year and Joan Johnson having a pretty good start to the year as well. The Saints play volume has been preposterous through two weeks.
68:05Actually, I want to I want to look at the actual number of plays up because I I'm sure >> Well, they ran like 90 in week one
68:11because it was an OT game. I think they were back into the like mid60s.
68:15>> The The Saints have run This is so funny, dude. The Saints have run 150 plays on offense. The Titans have run a
68:22100 The Saints have had a whole extra game over the Titans, the Browns, the Dolphins, the Broncos. The Cowboys have only run 106 because they've just been
68:31pretty uh efficient. But it's just like meh that's a lot of plays. 90 plays and 60 plays is is a lot of plays.
68:39>> Um and I'm worried basically I'm worried that in any situation where a team is able to just run and just kind of handle
68:46the Saints that is like we're we're over we're definitely over our skis on Vle. I mean the skis the skis are not even
68:53strapped to the feet anymore on on Devon because I keep the only thing keeping Vle from being 13% own this week is
69:00Adnai Mitchell.
69:03Yeah, it's true. It is true. I'd rather play AD than file >> of those two.
69:08>> Yeah, I agree. Uh, all right. Next game and our final game. This game, this is, Dude, this is so weird. So, Baltimore
69:16and Dallas are playing in the afternoon window. They are playing in Brazil in the afternoon window. This isn't the Sunday night game. This isn't the Monday
69:24night game. This isn't a standalone game on Saturday. It's just in the afternoon window. Um, something to note is that they played on
69:33this field last year. It ruined Jordan Love's knee. It also basically ended Dantavian Wixs as a starting receiver for the Green Bay Packers because he had
69:42three of the most horrendous drops you've ever seen as a result of the turf where he tried to plant and get the ball
69:48and couldn't do it and then he was like banished forever since then. Sounds like Z Flowers is not going to play. It's
69:54Thursday. He has not participated in practice. So, we're probably going to run back Baitman Wester and the tight ends uh as their as their base set with
70:03Chris Moore rotating in. Really, my my question for this game for you is is the field just going to be so shitty that
70:11like Lamar is kind of a bad play cuz like I don't want like if the coaches are cognizant of it, you're not going to
70:18have and Lamar I believe only has one design rush through two weeks anyway.
70:22Like it this might not be the Lamar spot that it seems that it should be.
70:26Yeah. Um, it's pretty annoying because it it feels like Zay actually would probably be tracking to be back this week if it wasn't for this field,
70:36>> but now I don't think he's going to play. Has it been confirmed for sure that they're going to play on this
70:40field? There was talk last week that it might get moved to Dallas because the field was so bad. Is that still a
70:45possibility or is that dream dead?
70:48>> Uh, I mean, I have not seen anything about it changing >> today. doesn't mean it won't. I mean, there's there's a chance they show up
70:58and they're there on Friday or Saturday and they're like, "Dude, this is not we're not doing this and that they fly
71:03back." I I would guess.
71:06>> Yeah, it's it's such a [ __ ] show. Um it's really unfortunate that like that's something we have to deal with in the
71:11National Football League. Um I mean, it reminds me of when we used to have games in in Oakland on the on the baseball
71:17diamond and it's like halfway down the field, someone's running in in sand. Um, yeah, I think that I think that while it
71:28might not be like it's a high varian spot, but if you remember the Brazil game um from a couple years ago, it was the opening
71:38week Eagles Packers game and a lot of people were really concerned about the field and it ended up being a total
71:44shootout because at least the offense knows which way they're cutting. It's >> just it's it's the snow thing, right?
71:51>> Right. So, like, do you remember like Jaden Reed had an insane game and I think multiple of his big plays were
71:57just like >> him making one cut in the open field and defenders just falling trying to match him.
72:03>> I I certainly I certainly do remember because Dantavian Wix couldn't figure it out, >> right? Dante Wix is just like on a slip
72:10and slide all game. So, I mean, it adds a lot of variance to everybody, but I would think that like there is an
72:17increased potential for a 75 yard Derrick Henry screen pass for CD Lamb to like get open on a slant, make one cut,
72:27and he's gone for 70 yards. And these things can speed up the game. So, I think my initial reaction is to
72:38play into the field being good for offensive production as long as it doesn't like literally get someone hurt.
72:44And I'm probably going to try to be quite overweight this game. I'm especially going to try to be overweight players who I think like are most
72:52dangerous in a after catch capacity. So, Henry is a huge play for me. Um, and then I think really both Lamb and
73:01Pickins can do that on the Dallas side.
73:04>> I'm I'm good with that. I do have a concern about uh Mr. Dember, which is is there any man who who would they whose
73:14knees would they rather protect more, Lamar or Henry's knees?
73:19>> Um, I think that they don't have a choice. They're they're going to play Henry.
73:23>> Yeah, they're going to play Henry. Uh, I mean, I guess theoretically it is a bounceback spot for Javante whose volume
73:29does continue to be preposterous. is his like backfield. I mean, he's going to end the season. Him and Gibbs are going
73:36to be like one and two in like backfield like market share of snaps and touches like to the point that it's like
73:41legitimately surprising to see Mari de Marcato be like, "Oh god, Darc that's not what's going on. Why is D Marcato on
73:48the field? Juvante get hurt." Like that's the that's the that's when you know a guy is really entrenched is when when you see their backup you your
73:57immediate thought is is the starter hurt? like did did I miss something happening to the starter and Javante is there the the Jake Ferguson stuff that
74:05was very much a uh you know whatever that happens once a season where Jake Ferguson scores twice. Uh I mean Baitman
74:144700 and then what about Wester? I mean Wester did he didn't get any targets but he did just play Z Flowers's position.
74:21He was third on the team in routes. He just straight. I mean, I you probably can't do it because they just won't
74:28target him, but man, that's a lot of routes on in a crazy high total game. He was kind of a fun prospect at at
74:35Colorado.
74:36>> Yeah, he was fun. I liked him.
74:39>> Yeah. Uh, all right. Well, let's go ahead and build our DraftKings lineup.
74:43You guys can comment down below your gold star play. And if Jacob and I win $1 million, one of you guys will get
74:5010,000 bucks. And uh I will uh we'll we'll make our picks. We'll give our gold star plays and we'll we'll get out
74:57of here >> and I will I will give you the first pick.
75:02>> All right. I will I will be picking um Mr. Derek Henry.
75:10>> I like it. I like it. I will do my gold star play and I think Bowers is going to play this week and I'm going to
75:19highlight $5,500 Dalton Concincaid as my golden star biggest play of the week. I I don't even care if he's if he's 20%
75:29owned, whatever. I still think he's a great play. I think he should be priced with Bowers and McBride. The usage has
75:34been preposterous. DJ Moore might not play. I still think he's great if DJ Moore does play. He he he's he's he's he
75:42is him.
75:44>> Sweet. I will go on the other side of that game. I will give my gold star play here, which is not actually the tight
75:54end a Gadson, although I think he's a great play. It is Lad McConi, who I'm guessing will come in a little bit under
76:00because I think >> most people >> most people will play the Josh Allen side of this game, which means they're probably going to play max one of Lad
76:08Maki or Ronda Gadson. I think they're going to play Gadston. Um or they just won't play Chargers. And Maki to me is
76:15like in a great spot. He looked in week one he was the only functional thing about the Chargers offense and then in
76:21week two he was clearly limited by injury in terms of his role. I don't read at all into the week 2 production
76:26and he's already practicing in full. So I think he's going to be back to what we saw in week one. He gets a great
76:31matchup. They're going to be chasing points. Um so I'm I'm very into lad. I also think they're going to have to pass
76:37a lot more without Cole and Jooku. Like playing Gadin as your tight end one is fun for us. It's It's not fun for your
76:43run game. I think that they're going to just have to lean into throwing a lot.
76:47Um and that's going to be positive for Maki for sure.
76:50>> Yes. Yeah. I I I would just have a hard time playing him because I'm just so annoyed with the Chargers overall. But there's no doubt
76:59that like he will be overindexed by like good players for for sure. Lad lad mcconi will be uh I will save us a
77:07little bit of salary and I will take just an obviously good play $4,300 Adnai Mitchell against the Detroit Lions he he
77:14is going to be exceedingly exceedingly popular and to me anytime you can play one of the most volatile players in the
77:20NFL at 43 you know what it's basically just like playing Trey Tucker if you just think about it like that it's
77:25actually much easier >> and cheaper >> Trey Trey Tucker with very very good fancy metrics Yeah.
77:35All right. I will just just make an adult play here. Uh we'll take Jaylen Warren, who I think, assuming Rico Dael
77:43is not um a factor, will be very owned and project very very well.
77:48>> Yeah. Um you know what? I'm going to take Brock Perie and I'm just going to say it's totally fine to do naked Brock.
77:54I don't think you have to force KD. I don't think you have to force McCaffrey.
77:57I I mean is because I naked Brock would have worked last week, right? He got he got 20 >> 28 points with no one else carrying with
78:05him like naked naked Brock with with this version of the of the 49ers. Naked Brock works just fine and he can always
78:11run one in too. People People forget.
78:15>> All right. Um this is going to put some stress on our salary, but I trust you to find us at cheap wide receiver play.
78:21We've already discussed a couple. I will pick Mr. Ken Walker.
78:26>> All right, we'll do Ken Walker. And if I put in the Carolina Panthers defense, that leaves us $4,000 at wide receiver,
78:36which gives us Jeremy uh to your boy your boy Trey Harris.
78:42>> Oh, this is getting worse.
78:43>> Okay, worse than I thought.
78:47>> Maybe I'll take Walker out.
78:48>> No, no. Gino with Admir.
78:51>> There we go.
78:51>> We get the 5600 and we can play Jameson Williams.
78:55>> Perfect. Look at that. Gino Smith, Dererick Henry, Jaylen Warren, a Lad McConn star from Jacob Sanderson, Adnai Mitchell, Jameson Williams, a Daltton
79:05Concaid gold star from yours truly, Kenneth Walker in the flex, the Carolina Panthers defense at the Cleveland Browns. Uh, Jacob, immediately after
79:14this program, you are about to go do the long view. You've been writing extensively at thinkingaboutthinking.com. What else do you want people to know about? When is
79:24your when is your uh are you doing the athletic article again this year?
79:27>> I Yeah, so Ben's doing them every week.
79:30Um we we'll record our long view episode once he's done writing. So that'll probably be yeah in an hour or two. And
79:36then uh I'm doing them quarterly. So I'll have a my next athletic article will be like a a rookie analysis article
79:43that'll be after four weeks. So it'll be a couple weeks on that. But um I have a bunch of stuff up on thinking about
79:49thinking this week already. I have the hitchhiker's guide. I have my rest of season reddraft here, which is kind of a
79:55one-off. Don't expect that every week.
79:57Um, and then I have my updated dynasty rankings and a dynasty column focused mostly around like some rankings processes, some training strategy, and
80:08kind of how to handle the injuries to Jaden Daniels and Jackson.
80:12>> Yeah, there you go. All right, everyone.
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