0:00And here we are. Days away. The NFL draft coming on Thursday night. We'll continue to sit here and feel and [ __ ]
0:08things as we prepare to sort through all the nonsense that's going to be spouted over the coming days. It will get thick.
0:14It will get deep. None of it will matter, but on Thursday night the truth will be told with the expenditure of
0:20draft capital and the the sighting of names. We'll know everything. It'll be fantastic. And we'll dig into that, but still plenty of time for speculation.
0:28Still plenty of time for you to get more Matt Waldman in the form of the rookie scouting portfolio. Also, I I was
0:36looking at the list. What do you you've been on like 24,000 podcasts in the last 2 weeks.
0:42>> Yeah, well, you know, I mean, things happen. I guess that's you know, it's nice to it's nice to be put in that
0:48situation. That's for sure. So, I'm not going to complain about it. You know, if they want to have me on, I'm going to
0:53I'm going to show up and then, you know, then we do the real stuff over here. You know, while Bloom Bloom over here calls
1:00me this morning tells me he was he had his proudest draft analyst moment in history cuz he wagged the dog um
1:07apparently when it came to uh talking about a trade that he thought he was being satirical about, but then suddenly now there's actual legitimate
1:16negotiations [snorts] to what it was cuz apparently Chris Fowler picked up something that Bloom joked about and then he went back to say, "I'm joking."
1:24And then somebody contacted him and said, "No, actually now there's some serious stuff going on." Um so, we're going to we're going to claim it as
1:31Bloom wagging the dog. That's how ridiculous this all gets. You and I and Bloom, we will all be sitting on the football guys, the
1:39Audible channel for some period of time Thursday night. I'll be on Sirius uh Thursday night from 11:00 to 1:00, Friday night from 11:00 to 1:00.
1:47Probably joined by Mr. Matt Waldman.
1:49I'll be on Saturday from 4:00 to 7:00.
1:52And Sunday I'll be doing a post draft draft hosting and drafting in the draft.
1:56So, uh check all that out if you're so inclined. Also, check out any of those 24,000 podcasts. I say 24,000 cuz it
2:04seems like it. If you listen to them all, it's [ __ ] endless. Um but, if you're really keeping track, It's a Waldman marathon. If you're
2:11really keeping track, it's like 24. Go to your RSP email inbox and you'll find the full listing of them Yeah. with links to all
2:18those that have been uh released and probably some have been released since then. Uh the small handful. So, all right, Matt. Let's start feeling some
2:25some stuff as we head into the draft. So, I took uh considerable heat considerable heat from the aforementioned Sigmund Bloom. Uh I'm in
2:34a dynasty league. It's a it's a fairly interesting dynasty league where we draft superflex and we draft before the NFL draft. That's been part of the deal.
2:44Scott Barrett from uh Fantasy Points is the instigator of this nonsense. And uh a bunch of us some but fairly big name
2:52people. It's a tough crowd, right? Uh drafting this. And so, uh I had the 108.
2:59Uh And again, it's a superflex. My current roster features uh some pretty decent quarterbacks. One you might have heard of named Josh Allen. One you might
3:07have heard of named Jordan Love. Another one that I drafted last year, Tyler Shuck. I also have Davis Mills, but I
3:13like to be well stocked on quarterbacks.
3:15So, I get to the 108. I guess this is the thing. Theo Gramlich, who's also in this league. I mentioned the heavy
3:20hitters, Matthew Berry, Barrett, T.J.
3:22Calkins, Pat Thorman. It's a rough crowd. Um Rich Reebar. So, you know, I like to not get caught short because when I we started this league, I had my
3:33first quarterback was Andrew Luck, who I drafted shortly before he retired.
3:38Suddenly. So, maybe I have some some fears of missing out. But, also, I talked about this with Alan Ceslowski on the fan SiriusXM Fantasy Sports radio
3:48show that he does on the Dynasty show saying I would do this. And so, I did this.
3:53I drafted Ty Simpson with the 108. Uh first round, eighth pick. Um a little context this has always been a quarterback heavy
4:03draft. Malik Willis was the 101 the year he came out. So, that kind of gives you an idea.
4:09>> Uh Mendoza went three, 103 this year.
4:11Love, Tate, Mendoza. Okay. So, uh Theo Gramlich threw this out here for comment. Sigmund Bloom's comment was "Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope." Four "nopes"
4:22all caps.
4:24Do I Do I deserve maybe only three "nopes"? Feel or [ __ ] it.
4:27>> [laughter] >> I'd give you two.
4:31I'd give you two. That's fair. You know, cuz on the one hand, listen, from a standpoint of that is it likely that Ty
4:38Simpson's going to be a first round pick? Very likely. So, draft capital's playing in his favor. Is it possible that he goes to a team where he could
4:46wind up being the starter for the next year and a half, 2 years, even out the gate?
4:52That's also likely. Um Is it Is it looking likely that the that the Arizona Cardinals might be in contention for him? Um If they don't
5:03trade with the Chiefs, apparently, um then the answer is probably yes. And if he gets that, he's got some skilled talent around him to be able to do some
5:13work. Um So, while I don't love Ty Simpson as a prospect, he's he was higher on my board than Cam
5:23Ward was last year just by a little bit.
5:26They're just guys that I believe need surrounding talent and a and um you know, they need surrounding talent to thrive and to be able to grow. And I
5:37think that the Cardinals have just enough that you could feel comfortable with him. I mean, is it kind of a kind of a Viking situation with the with
5:47the Michigan quarterback and McCarthy, you know? It's kind of like that. But, I I don't think there's anything wrong with taking him at the back end of the
5:56first round even if I would prefer other players. Right.
6:01>> I don't have a problem with it. Right. I would acknowledge that, you know, I was rolling the dice a bit, but I think we
6:05tend to do this in this league not knowing where people are going to land in general. Uh the the people off the
6:09board immediately after him, Jahmyr Gibbs, Eli Stove, Omar Cooper, Denzel Boston. I don't know that, you know, like in this and I you know, I won't get
6:18into the full context rosters, but I'm pretty well stocked at at the other positions. Jahmyr Gibbs, Jaxon Smith-Njigba. You know, so I'm you know,
6:26like I'm not looking for top end play and No, but you've got elevated you quarterback's elevated value in that league. Right. And the players that you
6:33just mentioned are high floor players.
6:36>> Right. Yeah. And what what other thing too, it's it's this is a tight end premium league. So, that's of interest.
6:41I got Michael Trigg in the at the 308.
6:44Michael Trigg.
6:46Big future in the NFL. Feel or [ __ ] it.
6:48He's probably one of the most boom-bust of the early round tight ends available.
6:53Um he would not have passed the Bob Harris-Mason Taylor >> No. test in the gauntlet. You know, as we've talked about in the past
7:01throughout the past year.
7:03Well, he would on a good day or on a good moment. He might actually make he he might have on on the gauntlet, you
7:10could imagine where he caught all the inaccurate [snorts] passes, but dropped all the easy ones. He can kind of be that way. Right. There's
7:16real upside to him. And the fact that you're getting him near the fourth round, um I'm okay with that. Yeah, I
7:22>> It's a little risky, but it's all right.
7:23I'm just to feel it out cuz I know people love these kind of things. Uh Demond Claiborne in round two with the
7:28208. And I got Josh Cameron uh in 408.
7:32The Yes, uh the drafting of those players is an advertisement and endorsement of the rookie scouting portfolio.
7:38>> You are a Baylor guy. Look at you. I'm the RSP guy.
7:42>> Oh, okay.
7:43>> [laughter] >> It's pretty simple at this point. I'm getting the best players available in my RSP rankings. There you go. Uh as we
7:50head into the Like, when you're drafting without any knowledge of where the team's going, it's >> Sure. it's a fun thing. I Jordan Tyson
7:56yesterday. I saw the videos he posted from his workout.
8:00Human joystick is not hyperbolic. I mean, this guy has moves on top of moves. Uh is this an accurate reflection of his tape? But, not an accurate
8:10reflection of his of his game tape, but possibly of his game play ability. Feel or [ __ ] it. This is probably one of the
8:16more complex conversations we're going to have today. And I think it's a fun one to have because the workout tape in itself,
8:25my first impression, especially after seeing everybody else weighing on their impressions, was this.
8:30Um Okay.
8:33Right.
8:33>> He's running against air. He ran a fade route with basically one dude like in the playing the flat defender and he
8:40runs you know, he runs that little move to the inside on like what's basically a whip route and then breaks it up up the
8:48boundary for a fade. But, there's nobody covering.
8:51>> one. Yeah. Well, here's the thing. Oh, the second one? Yeah. But, here's the thing. When I watch the moves, um
9:02clearly he's healthy right now, so that's good. That's a positive.
9:06The other positive is that when he that at least in a situation where he's not having to read a defense, he knows what
9:16he's going to run right away and not something where he's adjusting on the fly. When he runs the route, it has a
9:23really good caliber of movement skills with it. And you can see why people love are enamored with his movement skills.
9:33They're fantastic, okay? So, that's great. The the suddenness and patience factor really isn't going to apply to this drill because it again, he's not
9:43facing tight man coverage. He was facing, you know, in a lot of these situations. And it's and it's rehearsed.
9:49So, you really want to see how he reacts when he thinks about things cuz when he's forced to think, that's when things
9:56become an uneven with his game. So, I haven't learned anything new about that or if I have it's that he's showcasing
10:05some things that he corrected and has gotten better at since his game tape.
10:10But again, it's not game tape, it's practice tape. It's it's you know, so there's that. Then there's the other avenue that I've kind of talked about
10:20being somewhat concerned about and it's it's injury. He's had a lot of injuries look at how he's moving and when I
10:28listen to movement coaches or injury specialist talk about mechanisms that generate injury, some of the things he did on that tape actually
10:39lend to maybe why he gets hurt because he's landing flat-footed. There's some mechanisms where he's maybe more on his heel. There's mechanisms about how he
10:51moves his his feet and his legs that maybe put extra stress on ligaments and tendons that they shouldn't and so then
11:00you start to go, okay, I'm not an expert in this area but I've seen enough experts talk about it and looking at
11:07this and I also look at how other top route runners move and you could say he's you know, I can I've seen some movement
11:14coaches who I respect say, look, he's one of one in terms of what he does here but then I'm also thinking but are they
11:21injury specialists and they're looking at the result not the the process of the movement and I think that when you look
11:28at the process of the movement, there's some concern. So, nothing's changed to me about what we just saw. If anything, I'm just like
11:36it's still a boom-bust situation for this guy. So, I'm injury agnostic and you're you know, just to acknowledge you're lower on him than the field. I
11:44think and he seems to be gaining some buzz like in your rankings and you know, saying anything but but there are a lot
11:51of people who are you know, and especially in light of these videos who are who are going gaga over him. I'll
11:57say this he you know, the the thing you said is the thing I thought of. I try to be injury agnostic. I think you know,
12:02injuries you know, are isolated things but in this case you look at him and I talk a lot about the physics of the game
12:09where like you know, there are just forces and velocities and things that are created that are immutable, right?
12:15And and you mentioned the tendons and ligaments and things and yes, you can add to the elasticity of those things but they're still made of tendons and
12:22ligaments. These guys work out and do all these things get bigger get buffer get stronger. Those are still made of the same stuff, right? And as much as
12:29you can work on that and try to add to the elasticity of them uh you know, there has to be boundaries at some
12:35point. I just watching that video I said, he is testing those boundaries.
12:39So, uh that that may be you know, it's like having the dragster, you know, it goes up and down the strip a couple
12:44times and then you got to take it in and put a new motor in it, right? It just you know, I I do have that concern about
12:50and and probably it was added to after that and that's even with me trying to be injury agnostic. I think he's going
12:56to go very early. I don't think people are going to care uh and I don't know that the workouts tapes you know, change
13:02what was going to happen. It seems like this momentum was building before that but he certainly didn't do anything to slow down said momentum.
13:10>> Now, if we can find an equivalent of a Ken Miles to work on this race car, we might actually we might have
13:16something amazing here in Jordan Tyson but I feel like he's the he's that Ford race car before Ken Miles got to work on
13:23it and that's what I'm a little bit worried about when it comes to Tyson but but yeah, I mean still I mean very
13:30talented could obviously be wide receiver one before it's all said and done but I think that there's some there's there's more flash than
13:39substance right now with what's going to get him to that wide receiver one value and a lot of it's going to have to take
13:47place behind the scenes in terms of getting his body in the right shape to be able to withstand the forces or to
13:54change how he exerts those forces to do the job. So, yeah, I mean fascinating player for sure, you know, if you like
14:02the leaping in the air thing, there are a lot of people that did not like that.
14:05I've honestly it was unnecessary for the the play.
14:09>> Sure. You know, those types of things.
14:10Some of this there's a little bit of Hollywood going on with this that particular play but if you're analyzing this, you're way too [ __ ] late about
14:19what you should be analyzing with Jordan Tyson because people have spent more time on we spent more time on this particular thing than we did on all the
14:28actual analysis work that's done on this guy for months, you know, so that's that's kind of the irony of all of this.
14:36All right, Oscar Delp tight end in Georgia. Nice size 6'5 245.
14:43My feeling is this tight end class is very compressed and there is a bunch of guys who might be good. How
14:49good might Oscar Delp be? Could he be a top three producer? Feel it or [ __ ] it?
14:53>> Totally feeling it. I mean the only thing considering his weight needs a little bit more muscle so that he can
14:58show us show up as well as he did in the SEC as a blocker and I think that he can do that. Um and also he's going to have
15:06to show a little bit more toughness at the catch point where he's taking hard contact and he can hold on to the ball.
15:13I just didn't see enough instances of where he could do that and the ones that I did see he dropped the ball. Um so,
15:20you know, he's normally reliable pass catcher outside of hard contact but if he's going to ascend to be one of the
15:27you know, a really good NFL starter a fantasy value, he's going to have to take the hard contact and hold on to the
15:34ball. If he can prove that I think everything else is there for him. It's just this is a this is a weird
15:39class, dude. It's you know, are we getting more are we getting more 12 and 13 personnel teams? Are they going to be
15:45declaring that and now now Delp gets a little lost or is he going to be extremely valuable because I think he could be a
15:53Tucker Kraft type to be honest. You could put him he runs really well in the open field. So, you know that he can
15:59block reasonably well. They might give him the those easy little dump-offs and leaks and he can he can be a bulldozer
16:06with some speed.
16:07Yeah, I I think I think like you know, you could toss the dart at your tight end of choice here. I I do like the
16:13looks of him. I feel like it's the same you know, wide receiver a little bit you know, that maybe it's a sign that it's not the
16:20greatest class. I don't know. There seems to be a lot of wide receivers people are interested in. KC the Kansas City Chiefs want a top wide receiver who
16:27is KC Conceicao the right guy to be that receiver?
16:32First of all, the receiver aspect feel it or [ __ ] it. I'm feeling it. I think they want a top wide receiver for sure.
16:39What I I I like there's so much I like about Andy Reid but one of the things that I hate as a fantasy um analyst and GM
16:48about Andy Reid is when has he drafted a good wide receiver outside of like in the early rounds? When has he drafted
16:55one that has actually been legitimately strong? Jeremy Maclin I think might be the last one. I mean Tyreek Hill but he
17:02was he was one of those really where it's it wasn't about whether you were assessing the talent right, it was whether or not
17:09you were willing to take the chance on him and it whether it was going to blow up in your face. I mean cuz I think that
17:16that's more that was more the decision point about Tyreek Hill as late as they took him.
17:20Um but I think other than Maclin, I mean I don't remember any Eagles or Chiefs receivers that I would be like
17:30totally loving and even Rashee Rice to me plays like a construct of the offense more than he plays as a as a
17:39well-rounded talent and so it's I don't know. The track record you could count Rice. You could but it's I just think that there isn't a lot he's had a
17:50lot of failures with wide receivers in terms of late picks. If if the wide receiver's what they're doing, I mentioned KC Conceicao cuz I feel like
17:58maybe that would keep Rashee Rice relevant. He's the type of player that you would add that wouldn't be a limiting factor for him. But what how do
18:05you see that? Well, I mean they both can they're both great runners after the catch and and so they could be
18:10interchangeable that way. You can probably get they both also drop the ball on high pointed passes downfield and away from their their frame. So,
18:19they're almost the same player just with different sizes and quicknesses.
18:22So, it's kind of funny you'd have kind of redundancy I think if you ask me.
18:26Though I think Conceicao is a probably a better route runner and someone that probably should be able to quell some of
18:31that.
18:33I mean is he going to be a 5-yard average depth of target guy like Rashee Rice? I don't know. I mean I he in that
18:39offense, yeah. I think the biggest problem I have is KC's offense and and really Andy Reid's offense is it just feels like it's always way too
18:47complicated for the receiver.
18:49That the receivers that they draft never seem to be able to grasp it and never develop into what their physical skills
18:55portend. So, I'm just I'm just skeptical about I I'm just kind of I hate to say it this way as a fantasy you know, as a football
19:04person I love what Andy Reid does and the Chiefs are a good team but as a fantasy GM or fantasy analyst, I'm just
19:11kind of tired of Andy Reid and and thinking about Andy Reid and wide receivers. When I think Andy Reid drafted a wide receiver,
19:18half of me thinks just stay away. Just just forget it. Like it's it's going to be a disappointment like Lucy with the football and
19:27you know, I I just you know, Andy Reid is just Lucy with the football.
19:31Hear a lot of talk this time of year about the top 30 visits. All teams are getting you know, have their prospects
19:36make visits.
19:38Do these visits mean the team has a heavy interest in player? Feel that or it?
19:43>> I'm going to say [ __ ] it and say that the biggest reason I mean there's some that do but the biggest reason is that
19:49those these are the the they have the most questions about. Right.
19:52>> You know, that you know, top 30 is kind of a the top 30 visit sounds very misleading like this guy might be
19:59drafted among the top 30, but it's you know, but it makes me laugh because it's like these are guys that really might
20:05not be drafted or might be Or the head of the marks, right? And the team knows everything they need to know and they don't want to foreshadow
20:13anything. With other players, yeah.
20:15>> there's probably more of that. Yeah.
20:17>> You know, they're probably looking at guys that they like you said they don't know as much about or that they want
20:21people to think that hey, we're not taking the guy you're thinking about.
20:24>> smoke screen visits, yeah. Right, so much lying goes on. I mean it's so like I don't know. I have feelings very
20:32strong feelings about the lead up to the draft the hype for I know 99% of everything I'm being told is totally
20:38untrue or can't realistically come to pass. Every player can only be drafted by one team and I get that we all want
20:44to sit here and do the what ifs and play that game. It makes me crazy though cuz we know Thursday, Friday, Saturday. All
20:53the answers will be told. The truths will be told.
20:56>> waiting for the next It's like trying to bet what's going to happen in in the next favorite, you know, Netflix or HBO series that's going to
21:05happen and you're like the writers are leaking things that are probably not true just to get you all freaked out. Uh
21:12Zechariah Branch ran into a little trouble. I want to say where was it? Was it in Georgia?
21:16>> It was in Athens, yeah, my own hometown.
21:18Yeah. Yeah, is this a big deal for his draft capital feel or [ __ ] it?
21:21>> Oh, [ __ ] it, no. I mean unless he's got layers and layers of stuff to deal with that this was just another layer of
21:28information, then no. He was basically told to move along on a sidewalk outside of a a club or something and he took a
21:36step, but he didn't move in the right direction and then and either and then whether the officer interpreted that as willfully disobeying
21:44or it was just the the it was late at night and the guy was confused about which direction to move.
21:51You know, whatever happened he got arrested for it and $39 was the bail amount and I've been I've lived in Athens and been on enough jury duties to
22:00tell you that I've seen enough police reports involving students and and and young cops who are working that beat on Friday, Saturday, or Sunday nights
22:11and I can tell you that those reports often are pretty vague and leave a lot to be desired for interpretation about
22:19what actually happened. I'll say this my old pal Greg Rosenthal tweeted about this and I think I think his comment was this is might be the
22:26first time ever that a police reporter has actually helped I'm just going to tell you this story, Bob. I told this on Twitter this
22:34morning, but this was my There's a lot of good police officers in Athens. I've met a a fair bit of them. The older
22:39experienced ones are are really good, but some get overzealous and it's also around spring break and a lot of them are asked to take over for UGA police
22:48officers on campus. One day, Bob, I was driving to work. I worked at the business school. I was driving to work
22:55in my in my little slow ass Prius putting up a big hill and the light turned yellow as I crossed the
23:02intersection. I passed through this yellow light and to my left on this T intersection on the T crossing part where it's just a sidewalk and and
23:13bushes, I see a motorcycle cop in the bushes and it's an Athens cop and I putter through and he whips out to turn left from the
23:23sidewalk to follow me and and pull me over and as he's doing so the light had turned and this panel truck starts to
23:32turn left with the right away towards this cop. The cop literally had to perform an evasive maneuver. I see it I'm watching in my rearview mirror had
23:41to perform evasive maneuver where literally looked like he was like a stunt driver for Chips and he literally like veered into the opposite side of
23:50traffic and nearly laid down his bike before he righted the bike and then pulled me over.
23:56And I just remember I was trying not to laugh. I mean I was glad he was okay. At first I was worried and then as he
24:01pulled me over I was trying not to laugh. He pulled me over right in front of the building I worked. He was like,
24:06"Do you know why I pulled you over?" And I said, "No, I'm it's a yellow I I I think you pulled me
24:11over because I went through a yellow light and you didn't see it was yellow or you're anticipating it. So but the
24:16more the bigger question I got for you is are you okay?"
24:20And he looked at me and he goes, "What?"
24:22I said, "I mean I watched you nearly laid down that bike. That was a great maneuver you put on there, but I thought
24:27if it wasn't the truck that was going to hit you it was going to be the Jeep coming the opposite way that was in the
24:32that you were in that lane for. I thought I was going to have to call 911 and get out of my car and like make sure
24:38wave traffic around you after that. Are you all right?" And he just looked at me and he just kind of smiled and didn't
24:45say anything and asked me for my license and registration and he came back and and told me I was free to go. [laughter]
24:53But these are the types of things I mean like some of these guys are a little young and overzealous and trying to you
24:58know I think you know, I think the initial news as soon as you hear somebody's arrested, you know, 5 days before the draft is what the hell was he
25:06thinking, right? And I think in this case as we got more the more details we got, the less I felt like what the hell
25:11was he thinking, all right? Like >> He probably was misunderstanding.
25:14>> Yeah, it was a misunderstanding. I mean even if he was a little drunk, I'm not going to be upset with him. He was
25:19walking around in public. Maybe it was loud. I've been in Athens late at night.
25:24It's loud out out there with the music playing. Maybe he didn't hear the officer correctly. Maybe the officer didn't say it very clearly, you know.
25:33Maybe the officer motioned stuff to him and then wrote down he said stuff. I mean listen, it's it [clears throat] there's a lot to be
25:41left interpretation with some of this.
25:44Before we leave the state of Georgia, C.J. Allen best inside linebacker in the draft feel or [ __ ] it? I feel I feel like he really
25:51is and I think he's going to be one of those um players that you're going to want to have as an anchor player in your IDP
25:58dynasty leagues.
25:59Um we're going to go back into the world of RSP history uh and talk about one of the all-time greats.
26:08>> [laughter] >> If you've been watching the St. Louis Battlehawks, you've seen his fine work on the USFL field. Hakeem Butler
26:15or USFL Do we have an NFL caliber player in the minor leagues?
26:21I you know, I kind of think surprise surprise I kind of think we do um and I think it's that he's had flirtations with the NFL for
26:31the past few years after playing well in the UFL and nothing's really come of it, but let's look at it this way.
26:39Very rarely do guys coming from the the lower leagues get a a great opportunity to truly compete for playing time um
26:49as just a standalone wide receiver. You would end up you know, the the kid from Dallas who's playing in Dallas right now who
26:57was in the UFL. I don't remember his name right off the bat. I know he's on one of my teams. I should have mentioned
27:02him when I'm thinking about the argument, but um he he was a return specialist out of TCU. And so the fact
27:08that he could do the do return work and then get get an opportunity to play in the slot a little bit more is is good at
27:19example of how the NFL is kind of okay with that and amenable to it. I'm going to find his name right now. Um
27:27let's see.
27:28KaVontae Turpin, that's who I was thinking about. Turpin is that is an example of that. But I think that if you're a standalone just outside
27:35receiver who plays essentially one role on the field teams aren't going to be like, "Yeah, we're going to pick some guy off the UFL and we're going to
27:46we're going to make him our starter when we've got or or we're going to even give him a legitimate competition for playing time.
27:53And I think that that's probably what it is. Do I think he could be on an NFL roster? Absolutely. Do I think that he
27:59could actually contribute with the talent that he's shown? Yes, but but that's you know, it's probably unlikely to happen. And you know, he was
28:09a wide receiver for the Arizona Cardinals and as we can see that took them 4 years to I think 4 years to
28:16figure out that Michael Wilson was actually worth getting targets.
28:19>> Might take them 4 years to figure out Marvin Harrison Jr.
28:22>> Yeah, might as [laughter] well. Exactly.
28:24So it's like you know, we can say what we want about Hakeem Butler. He had certainly had drop passes and you know, things like that,
28:31but there was talent to that guy's game and I and I think that the fact that he's still playing and playing at a high
28:37level on this you know, on the squad and getting flirtations with the NFL is probably justifiable to to my point of
28:44view.
28:45All right, fair enough.
28:47Joe Flacco uh Connecticut quarterback is he a sleeper or feel or [ __ ] it?
28:51Oh, feeling it. I think this is someone who has some you know, has elements of good mechanics with how he moves in the pocket, how he
29:00how he works with drops. His throwing motion has some inconsistencies with it, but when it's on point he's accurate. He makes some big throws down field. He's
29:09got a good arm, good size, good movement skills overall. I think he's one of those players that if he can get a practice squad spot this year and
29:18stick to a roster this in subsequent years for another two or three years, he could be a compelling backup who might
29:25emerge as a good um as might emerge as a you know, top tier backup maybe even a journeyman starter. I think you know, I
29:33think about Aidan O'Connell. I think that you know, Aidan O'Connell might be the most recent example of someone who probably didn't have a really high draft
29:42capital maybe higher than I expected him to get and then was able to get a shot as a starter for a little bit down the line
29:49and get an audition like that. I think Fagnano is someone that you can give him a you know, if you can give him a couple
29:55of years before you rush him onto the field, you might have something that's worthwhile.
30:00All right, fair enough. Let's uh look at another maybe underrated player, Nick Singleton. Should we be thinking more highly of him, the running back from
30:06Penn State? Feel or [ __ ] it? I feel it.
30:08I think so. I think that um we have to remember that the way that recruiting happens in the college game is that they need to be
30:15able to play multiple running backs at once.
30:18Um and it's always been that way in the for a lot of teams in the past. Unless you were just so much better than
30:24everybody else that you're like a Randy Moss type of talent, they're not going to they're probably going to use multiple running backs. So,
30:34you know, Singleton was very good coming out um as a freshman and then, you know, the production wasn't quite there cuz he split time
30:42with other backs, but he's a very good receiver. I think that he's a smart runner within what you ask him to do and
30:49what he does best. And the size, speed, hands, it's all there. Um I would not be surprised at all if he develops into
30:59develops into a starter at some point.
31:01That did actually How about you Aler? Is he like a sixth-round quarterback? Feel or [ __ ] it? Oh, he's going to be. He's going to be. He might
31:09even be a fourth or fifth-round quarterback um just based on how the NFL likes to value big bodies with size, strength, and speed.
31:18>> 6'5 230 Yeah, I mean, that's right. They like that stuff. So, they're probably going to over-draft him um and so he I'm
31:27going to say I feel that. Is he worth that to me? I don't think so based on the film. Um I think he's probably more
31:33of a undrafted free agent and a guy that maybe needs to go to the UFL or another league even [clears throat] lower than
31:40that and like work his way up um and get more playing time and get more fundamentals into his game um before he he they try to rush him
31:49into a lineup.
31:51By the way, next weekend's fantasy notebook is going to focus on the rookies who were drafted in the first two days mostly. I'll get some three or
31:58third day three guys in there as well.
32:00Um but next week I'm going to try and look at some of the last year's rookies and previous rookies who've come up
32:05short. One of those is Matthew Golden.
32:07Is he still capable of fulfilling his draft value? Feel or [ __ ] it? Feel that, too. I I mean, again, it's year one. I
32:13mean, we get way too impatient about things and we have to understand that the Green Bay Packers like to use receivers in multiple spots. They move
32:21guys around. Um you've had you know, and when you look at it from that perspective Golden probably just, you know
32:30he he there were multiple guys who were already have rapport with Love. So, I I think that as we as we see his career unfold, we're going
32:41to see of him find a role and become more productive. I mean, he's a he's a good football player. I thought he was a
32:49good prospect and nothing's really changed my mind about that um just because he didn't get as many opportunities as you would like to see
32:59right away. Yeah, I'm very hopeful. I'm told he's very fast, Matt. You know how I feel about that. Um super excited.
33:06And we'll see opportunity matters, right? And they've kind of cleared the decks this off season with Dobbs gone, with Dontayvion Wicks gone. It's there's
33:14a it's a narrower band of players. I'm I'm looking at the magazines you got back there and I just don't see any in a
33:21brown paper bag.
33:23Well, I I know that this is this porn exists only on my computer in the form of the next gen stats fastest speeds table.
33:32Um very >> computer's in a brown paper bag. My computer is in a brown paper bag. You can't see it cuz it's in front of you,
33:37but that's okay.
33:39I want to revisit a couple things. Got to circle back on a couple items that that I thought were interesting.
33:44Uh we talked about the tight ends, right? That now they're compressed and uh it feels like any of them. Is this Is
33:50this Is drafting a tight end before the NFL draft even riskier than usual? Asked as someone who just drafted a tight end
33:57before the NFL draft.
33:58>> Oh, abso- absolutely I think it is. It's just I I just think it's a tough scenario because we we are seeing a changeover and we don't
34:07know how much of a changeover it's going to be. It could you know, I feel like that in order for you to get the
34:14the top move tight ends, you got to draft them reasonably early.
34:19And if you don't you don't go after those and you anticipate that you're going to get more of the Tucker Kraft,
34:25Tyler Warren, AJ Barner types you might be a year or two too early.
34:31Um and then that might mean that either those guys have to wait or those guys get passed over by somebody newer in um
34:38being drafted in a year or two. Um so, it's a it that may be much ado about nothing, but I feel like that this is that this
34:46may be that year where you kind of get bit in the ass for for drafting a tight end any anywhere before the fourth round or the late
34:56third, you know, if you're in a superflex league with premium tight ends, you know.
35:01>> [laughter] >> It's premium. I'm really willing to take some chances. Also very deep at that position. My roster is pretty well
35:08stocked, but so you're taking some We're rolling some dice. It's it's okay. It's fun to do. Casey Cansepsean, I want to
35:14go back to talking about his yards after the catch ability.
35:18Casey Cansepsean, yards after the catch more impressive greater than Malik Lemon. Is this a hot take or the real thing? Feel or [ __ ] it? Yeah, I saw
35:28Jacob um Gibbs talk about it. He was final analyst over at CBS say uh this might be a hot take and I
35:34would say no, it's not. It's not a hot take. Um Casey Cansepsean is probably if not the best runner after the catch
35:41of the receivers uh on this board. He's close to it. Um whereas Malik um Lemon is a tough guy and he can run
35:50after the catch well, but I wouldn't say that he's better than Cansepsean.
35:56All right. So, what what are we doing draft night, Matt? What what do you got any got any plan? I guess we'll just sit
36:00around and Yeah, we're going to sit on some couch and and probably I want to say I love Bloom's draft analysis for
36:07the reasons that he talks about things the rest of us don't, like little off-the-field nuggets. If you go read the Bloom pre-draft 100, it's fantastic.
36:15So many little little tales and Bloom finds. I know like we have all kind of got our lane as we do this. I
36:22like I don't care about any of these guys. I don't give a damn about anything except where they land and who's there.
36:26All right. So, that's probably why I like >> I am a mercenary. Matt is much more deeply analytical and Sigmund Bloom
36:34brings a little joy to the to the whole thing and tells some of these great stories and also some really real cogent
36:39analysis as well. Um but I love, you know, I I don't pay as much attention to all this stuff is and so I love the
36:47pre-draft 100 where I get to know these guys a little bit more. Like I sit here and I have NFL Network on at all times.
36:53So, I'm hearing some of these stories and and I've heard some that, you know, I didn't hear from Bloom. Tank Dell's
36:58grandfather that, you know, like uh paid him for every touchdown until he couldn't pay him for every touchdown. I recently passed away. Just great stories
37:06about these kids who are a good reminder that they're human. So, uh so tune into that Thursday night during the first round I'll probably
37:14have to cut out a little early. The first round's going to be a little shorter, Matt. It's 8 minutes instead of
37:1810. Oh, thank goodness. So, >> [laughter] >> so yes, the NFL >> Just give me Just give me my list, Bob.
37:25Just give me my list.
37:27>> Well, that's all I'm interested in and I'll start writing my fantasy notebook on landing spots and capital expended and start sorting out those things next
37:35week. This week's fantasy notebook was on some old dudes as one ex-commentator said, "Oh, shocking development of old dudes writing about old dudes."
37:45>> [laughter] >> It happens, but you can check that out.
37:49You should go buy the rookie scouting portfolio. I demand it. It's fantastic work. Everyone listening to this program undoubtedly knows this, but if there's
37:58one stray out there, we'd like to round you up. Go make an order [laughter] from Matt Waldman.com.
38:03>> you'll be happy. You'll be you'll absolutely be happy. And so, listen to Matt and I Thursday night on the Audible
38:09channel. Friday night uh Kloogee and uh Kloogee Well, they're all in Denver, right? This week Joey Wright and Jeff Bell are all
38:18congregated in one spot. They're going to do some live streaming. I'm going to be on the radio Thursday night 11:00 to
38:241:00, Friday night 11:00 to 1:00, Saturday 4:00 to 7:00, and Sunday in the afternoon sometime. So, if you're like that kind of thing, tune in. As long as
38:33Cecil's not As long as Cecil's not in his leopard bikini briefs, you know, for what they're congregating for.
38:40There you go. I mean, well, you just you should have gone to the football guys um uh soirée like several years ago when
38:47when when we had a pool, you know.
38:50Yeah, I'm I'm telling you, he he showed up.
38:54I'm here for it. And by the way, Brandon Aubrey just became the highest-paid kicker ever paid kicker in NFL history.
38:59Congratulations to you, Brandon. [ __ ] crazy world.
39:02>> [laughter] >> Love you, Matt. Bye.
39:07>> Love you. Bye.