0:00Good morning everybody. It's time to feel it or [ __ ] it. The wonderful podcast you like to listen to to start
0:06every week after we've watched all the NFL games and decided, damn, that was crazy.
0:13You don't know how much crazier it could get than week eight was. Uh, just off the hook. Crazy. It was wild. I am Bob
0:21Harris. You can find all my work at football guys and hear me on SiriusXM fantasy sports radio seven days a week
0:27if you're not careful. Uh he is Matt Waldman. He's been busy. I got emissive this morning from the rookie scouting portfolio. Tell me what's going on over
0:35there at mattwallman.com.
0:36>> Yeah, we had an October update both for uh the RSP pre-draft postdraft subscribers and because I was lapsed in September for the first time in about 22
0:46years. Um, I sent you I sent the the uh subscribers a a free month update of the October projections and rankings that I
0:57also sent out to those subscribers who get it all year. Um, so you can download that off of the site from Excel with the
1:05password that's in the email. Um, if you are if you got some sort of email and you don't have a password or link to it,
1:14that's because you subscribed to the blog. You didn't pay for it. So, sometimes sometimes I get emails about that. Just in case you're one of those
1:22folks, you didn't pay for it. It's just announcing whatever things I post on the site for you to see. And that one isn't
1:31for just general viewing. So, >> I feel like you you miss September. feel like October should have like some kind of special name. I'm thinking like my
1:39friend Richard Christie who works on the Howard Stern show, he celebrates Cocktober.
1:44I don't know. I'm just suggesting, you know, just I don't I think that's just reserved for certain parties. So I, you know, but I
1:55would say that uh I would say um that the that the you threw me for a loop there,
2:05but the uh but I would say play drums and and the cockto came up. I don't know.
2:11>> Projections and the projections and rankings full update this year this month. So, you'll get that. And also in the newsletter for folks who are
2:19subscribers to the pre-draft, post-draft, you also get um some risers and fallers that I was looking at um from the NFL. So, a little bit of a two
2:28for one on that newsletter. And then uh you know, we got the top 10 coming up um tomorrow morning and of course the round
2:35table next um you know on Wednesday with the gut check.
2:38>> Football guys. Yes.
2:39>> Yep. On football guys and then the replacements as well as that. And I think Jeff Bell and I will be podcasting
2:44this week on Thursday night and and Brandon uh Angelo and I will be podcasting on Wednesday night. And I think me and Heath are doing something
2:53this week on CBS. I'm not sure, but Heath Cummings and I'll either be this week or next week we're doing something
2:59on Thursday. I got to look at the schedule. But yeah, so you know, we got a busy week all over the place.
3:06>> Yeah. And my and and right now somebody's upstairs just above me working on our AC. So, if anybody falls through and tackles me, it's because
3:14that something happened and something happened bad. That's that's basically all I can say.
3:18>> Uh, we'll see what's going on next week in Arizona when they face the Seattle Seahawks. Somebody's going to be tackling somebody. And the quarterback,
3:24it remains unclear. Cardinals coach Michael said Sunday he made no decision about the starter against the Seahawks in week nine. This after Gardenner Mchu
3:32replaced Jacobe Brassette in the third quarter. Cardinals were trailing 17-3.
3:37He led touchdown drives on his first four possessions in a 3330 overtime win.
3:42Finished 17 of 23 for 188 yards and three touchdowns. Is it Mchu time?
3:48>> I'm going to say [ __ ] it. Um mainly because I think what Gardenner Mchu is great at is he's like that special ops
3:56guy that got dropped into the middle of a war zone and somehow figures out how to make sense of it. But then when
4:02there's a game plan and then there's like um you know practice beforehand and do you have everything organized that's when kind of the warts show a little
4:12bit. He's not fit for like regular society quarterbacking. I think I think that he's one of those guys that um does
4:20very well in chaos and then does very well and the Cowboys defense. I mean again pressure they can get pressure but
4:28they're not great against the pass. So, I mean, this was an inspired performance for sure. Some of the throws he made
4:34were fantastic. And Michael Wilson, I mean, listen, >> gutted that game out. Two broken ribs.
4:41>> Yeah, two broken ribs before the game.
4:43And you're watching like the first c the first target that was led him a little far and he was in pain there. Then
4:50there's a fourth quarter play that went that he had to stretch out for that he couldn't get to because Jacobe Brassette
4:57got hit while throwing and you could see that was rough on him and then he reels off what like three catches basically 48
5:05yards worth of catches in the fourth quarter back to back and then he gets the gamewinner on that toe tap. That
5:11that was a gutty performance and just excellent. He's such a good technician on top of that. I mean, the way that he
5:17works into the feet of defenders, um, takes so much discipline to be able to run an intermediate route and get literally almost even with that defender
5:28and then break outside like that. Um, a lot of guys don't do that very well. Uh, Donnie Mitchell um, was doing that. AD
5:38Mitchell was doing some of that this week, but not quite to the level Michael Wilson can. I mean, just a fantastic
5:45overall game for the Cardinals late.
5:48>> Yeah, I was And of course, it comes against Dallas who we I guess we should expect. I saw Dan Graziano at ESPN wrote
5:53that, you know, talking about this that Michael Wilson should be a top 30 pick in fantasy next year. That's that's pretty high, right? That's the top first
6:01two middle of the third round. And and his argument was it's he essentially plays the Puka Noola role in Michael Flur's offense. Uh and the Cardinals
6:09extended Wilson in the offseason. So, uh, >> sounds like something somebody said in the spring.
6:14>> Well, I think we discussed this as well, but little affirmation never hurts. Uh, more affirmation came for me in the form
6:22of last night's game. Washington, uh, hosting the Philadelphia Eagles. Or was it in Philadelphia? I don't know. I might have backwards. I should check
6:30things.
6:30>> It was in Washington. I thought so. Um, Trayon Burks. Uh, you know, we had talked about this before. I thought he's
6:37the more natural replacement for Terry McLaren that Antonio Williams would have a role. Lo and behold, Draymond Burks looks like a natural replacement uh for
6:46Terry McLaren had what, three catches, 81 yards, a 53 yarder, and Antonio Williams was still good. Had career best five catches. But but are we going to
6:54see Trayon Burks fulfill the promise he had coming out of Arkansas?
6:58>> I think it depends on what you saw at Arkansas. I mean, I think if you saw him as like a world beater receiver, then
7:04that. But I think that if you as a replacement, the way you stated it, Bob, absolutely feeling that. Um, he makes
7:12some really inspired plays. You can see um there's a nice crosser where he leans into the defender, gets loose, and then
7:20makes a full extension grab and you're like, that's beautiful. Like the great athletic ability. Um there was a nice play on a on an out and up that he ran
7:31where just the the tempo that he ran the route and the ability to to land the stick at that tempo and give the head
7:40fake and just get up field and catch it was nice. But then you also have the clap attacking the some issues with just
7:48consistency with the little things that separate like a good receiver from a great receiver. But I think he's got a chance
7:55to become a good receiver and even if he he doesn't ultimately get there, I think he's good enough for what they need
8:02right now. He's a big play guy who's a little more volatile than Antonio Williams where I would say with Williams, he's still got the big play
8:10with him. He had a nice out and up himself up the seam um late in the game for 30 yards, but most of his plays are
8:17more outside. He's a better pass catcher than Trayon Burks in terms of technique and more consistent, but Burks gives you those big plays that I a little more of
8:26a chance at that than Williams does.
8:28>> Yeah, I love the role and I love the effort and the results were great as well. And Williams can be a great thing.
8:33I keep going back to, you know, David Harrison from Lockdown Commanders told me like the first day of training camp, he had never seen a player, any player
8:41have a better first day of training camp than Antonio Williams. and he kind of, you know, drew a little praise during
8:47the course of training camp. Had a good week one, had kind of disappeared. We like to see him get see what he can do
8:51with this opportunity. Look, this is an offense that's building for the future, right? There's uh, you know, and not playing in the NFC East. Apparently, the
8:58future might be now, but uh, nonetheless, I think this is a good long-term look and we'll see. Terry McLaren's getting older. He's still got
9:05big contract remaining, but we'll see what happens there. Bryce Young. Uh Dave Canal says maybe when he was asked if Bryce Young's knee is limiting his
9:14mobility and maybe limiting his overall game. Uh do you think that's possible or has he just been found out? Feel it or
9:21it?
9:23>> [ __ ] the found out part. I watched that game and even if the knees limiting him a little bit, it might have been on two
9:31rollouts in the entire game. When I watched that game, what I act what I saw more than anything was offensive lineman letting blitzers
9:42through very quickly at the top of Bryce Young's drop. Unless the knee is bothering his drop that he's literally 3 seconds too slow, which he would not
9:51even be in the game if that was the case. Um, the knee is not the issue there. Um, pressure dropped passes. T
9:59McMillan Tatara McMillan had um a couple of drops in this game in key moments.
10:05Tommy Tremble had a key moment drop.
10:08There were some there were some batted passes and Young wasn't blameless. I mean, he had a couple of plays that there were a couple of throws in the red
10:16zone that he rushed and didn't really and and didn't throw accurately. But for the most part, this was really a matter
10:23of the offensive line allowing pressure in and guys making key drops at moments that really could have still been pivotal. This was a 14-point game and
10:33some where some of the drops were one at the end of the half and one in the late third quarter. Those were pivotal plays
10:39that could have kept them in this game a little bit closer than they were. and the pressure was enough that when you
10:46get to the top of your drop and the routes are still in their stems. Um, you know that unless the quarterback waso
10:54made a mistake with a a check or some sort of adjustment, this should have been, you know, these were on the line
11:01more than they were on Bryce Young. So, I don't think he's been found out. I think that this was just uh good
11:06defensive play.
11:07>> I think both my uh live stream on Saturday, people can come visit me there and ask me questions, too. every every
11:13Saturday at noon, but also throughout the week on the radio or through throughout the weekend after the game a lot of questions about, you know, should
11:20I move on? Can I dump Bryce Young before? Can I You know, I feel like, you know, he had established himself with a
11:27series of good games. It hadn't been in past years been one good game, one bad game, one good game, one bad game. This
11:32year, and dating back to last year, there have been a series of decent games. I think it's a little early to
11:37give up on him, so to speak. I don't know if I want to dive into the streaming waters of Sam Darnold and you
11:42know that that level of player Michael Pennix who apparently can you know not throw us well in the rain. Well, not at
11:48least better than Baker Mayfield. Let's go with that. But >> have you ever seen a game where they win they won without completing a pass? Is
11:56that >> Never seen Never seen that. Also, I believe there's never been a game in the history of the NFL where two running
12:02backs have run for uh 25 carries and 125 yards each. as we saw with Bucky Irving and Kenny Gable.
12:11>> Wow. Okay. I would have thought there would have been it's a rather unique rather unique game. Uh yeah, so interesting though. Um but yeah, I I
12:19think fantasy wise, don't give up. The Panthers obviously aren't giving up yet.
12:24We'll see what the rest of the year plays out, but I think there's going to be more useful weeks than not when we
12:28get going. Eli Sters came back against the Cowboys two weeks ago. He played 12 snaps, was targeted once without a catch. He built on that against the
12:36Commanders last night. Was this a a function of the Commanders just not being very good or was this Eli Ster's role? Is he a rising player?
12:44>> I think eventually he'll be a rising player, but when you look at the the game, two of his two of his 40, I think
12:5246 of 53 yards. Two of those catches came at the end of the game with the with um the Commanders playing an
13:00umbrella defense underneath.
13:01>> Three for 53 was where he ended up.
13:04>> Yeah. So yeah, he had a seven-yard catch that was a little out earlier and then the rest was just garbage time. I mean,
13:11literal garbage time. So I would hold off on hold off on grabbing Eli Sters just yet unless you know some somebodyhow dropped him in a dynasty
13:21league, then you absolutely you want to snatch him right now. But otherwise, you know, we'll see if he even um if he's
13:28even a factor the rest of this year. I want to run through the top producers at running back in week eight through
13:35tonight's game. Uh Tyler Algier was your running back one with 36.1 points overall as we all expected. Um Tony Pard third 28.7 points. Apparently he is
13:45unstoppable. EMTT Johnson turned a handful of carries into huge numbers. Uh 25 fantasy points. Chuba Hubard was five. Jir Gibbs, you have to go all the
13:55way down to six. Didn't see that a lot.
13:56But Bashel Tutin was running back two.
14:00uh had a nice game, the rushing touchdown, a receiving touchdown. Uh 29.9 fantasy points. Have we seen the peak tootin, feel it or [ __ ] it? I'm
14:09going to say [ __ ] it. I think there's more to mine with this player. Um and it's starting to come together for him,
14:15which is good. Um the ball security's been good enough that he's been able to stay on the field consistently and be
14:21the lead back. Um you know, really strong mobility out of his game. He's someone that can make that second move in tight um space to find a cut back and
14:32then the speed and burst is there and he runs hard. You can see this he looks like a guy who should be a he runs like
14:38a guy who's like two 215 and he's really what like 205 somewhere in that range.
14:44>> Yeah. Like I feel like I feel like everyone thought you know he came in he had great numbers at the combine and
14:49everything and and like maybe he was but he's he's not a small guy. I mean, he's not one of the bigger backs, but he
14:55looks like he's built for the for the job.
14:58>> Yeah, he's got that low center of gravity. Ran through two Colts on the way to a 39 yard touchdown on one play
15:05and then, you know, they got him involved in the screen game this week. I think he's I think he's one of those
15:10guys that he's close to what his peak value will be. Um, but that what I mean is he's he's close to his peak
15:18abilities. his peak value. I think as the line continues to get better, this team becomes a little bit better. We may
15:26see this guy turn into a top five overall running back for the next two to three years. He's a back I'd want to
15:32build around.
15:33>> Yeah. I think back to when we were drafting him in draft season, we were discussing him and and I felt like, you
15:37know, the price was exactly right for him. It was a running back like just outside the running back two range. I
15:41said, "You're not paying for a role that doesn't exist yet, but one you think will exist." And he has now worked his
15:46way into that role existing. So you got great draft value for him. He's returning huge value and now becoming a a lineup lock on a weekly basis. Adnai
15:55Mitchell, is he heading in that direction? So look, Omar Cooper Jr., we hardly knew you, sir. I hope you hope to
16:00see you again sometime. Adai Mitchell is a true number two here, right? I would agree. I think he is right now. I'm
16:07feeling that. Um, just from a route perspective right now, he's running good routes. I see, you know, I saw a number
16:14of good routes against the Raiders. It wasn't zone routes where the Raiders were did a bad job or that the coverage
16:20did a particularly bad job. It was Adonai Mitchell did a good job. And then on top of it, you um you know, he made a
16:29really nice grab, you know, on a it looks like a deep crosser um basically against cover six where he gave a nod to
16:36the safety, but the out routes were nice. His adjustments high and low near the boundary were strong. just looked like an all-around good game from a
16:44player at Texas and Georgia who was inconsistent at times, but you could see the high-end ability. And speaking of the Colts, just I mean, you know, they
16:54got rid of him. Now they're going And who are they going back to? Who do you think they're going to go back to, Bob?
17:00We talked about it last week, didn't we?
17:02>> We saw we saw a little bit of it this week on our first look at Anthony Richardson on the field and maybe we'll
17:08we'll see. J. Stiken is also not committing, evaluating everything.
17:12>> He's not cuz he's because they look like fools for getting for bringing Daniel Jones in in the first place. I'm sorry.
17:19I'm just I'm not a >> So we we differ on this. I think they had a successful season with that. Now,
17:24did they overpay him coming off an Achilles? Probably yes. I think we can all agree on that. But also, there's some re there was reason to believe they
17:32could get something going with him. I I just want to go back to Mitchell quickly. Every time I think about him, I
17:36think about our friends Zary Canedian who who stood on the soap box when Mitchell was drafted by the Colts saying, "This guy is going to be great.
17:45Trust me on this." So, Zary, appreciate you, man. Well done on that one. Uh, so Baltimore Ravens have some some issues,
17:52Matt, at quarterback. Lamar Jackson, first play back after a three-game absence, uh, injures his thumb, apparently severely. Uh, he'll have >> goes two of my fantasy teams.
18:02>> Yeah. Yeah. At least two of mine there.
18:04He'll have surgery likely not committing to being done for the rest of the year.
18:07I' I've heard talk that like maybe maybe after the week 14 he can come back but for all intents and purpose. Then uh
18:14Tyler Huntley was injured in this game as well. Uh a turf toe. They are having an MRI being done on that today. So
18:21we'll see how that plays out. In the meantime um Joe >> he is standing by. He took a hit to the
18:29knee from Ed Oliver and I wasn't sure he was going to get up. I started wondering who the who the next man up was going to
18:34be. We never find out probably. So just but uh so a lot of talk that they'll be interested in adding a quarterback. Um
18:43reports that they've already reached out to the Bears about Tyson Beant. He has connection to Declan Doyle, the offensive coordinator. Uh but the people
18:50that are like they could just go out and fly somebody in and say, "Put on the pads. Let's play." Uh is Jimmy
18:55Garopppolo, would he be a potential replacement for Lamar Jackson? Feel it or [ __ ] it?
19:00>> I feel it. I I feel this possibility cuz I mean look he's been he he's been sitting he's been other than like some
19:08of those dirty work years in San Francisco where he was pretty good much of the time um you know he sat behind
19:14Tom Brady for most of his career you know so uh he he's probably fresh enough he then he sat behind Matthew Stafford
19:21as well I mean he might not want to play anymore and maybe he's still pursuing a modeling career or whatever it is but no
19:28I mean he's he's a precision passer um that would help this offense a lot.
19:33He's someone that can execute a play action game at a strong level. Um which would be helpful. Um is he is he great
19:41under pressure? Not really. But with what you're going to get um at this stage of the season with a third string
19:50replacement, he's probably the best of the bunch. He's probably the one that I would want the most to give them a shot
19:56to keep this playoff um hunt alive. Um but and then also for the experience per dollar that you would get I'd say is
20:04pretty strong.
20:05>> Yeah. Not a lot of free agent talent out there available. He's probably the only one to trade as >> they had him and didn't like it very
20:13much. So I don't know. We'll see.
20:15>> Bring the party back.
20:17>> I'm not sure that's going to work. Uh we'll see what goes on there. I I'm I'm intrigued by the the talk about Bee and
20:24a lot of people think he can be very good. Is Matt Waldman one of those people? Yeah, I liked Tyler Bean a lot.
20:29I thought that he could be a future starter and there were people talking about him after his first year behind uh
20:35Justin Fields. I think it was behind Justin Fields that they were there were people calling, you know, from the NFL to see if they could trade him after
20:43that first season. So, I mean, this is a guy who who does see the field well. Um he can move. He's a good athlete with a
20:51strong arm and he just needs more playing time and I think he will be a second uh second contract starter or
20:58competing for a second contract starting spot at some point. He's kind of a future Jimmy Garopolo in that sense and his dad can beat anybody in an arm
21:06wrestling match >> apparently. So, uh so Bree Hall, he can beat a lot of people in arm wrestling matches as well. Also, he's a very good
21:14ball carrier when he's on the field.
21:15It's been four games since we've seen him. Uh in the meantime, Brilan Allens racked up 300 plus yards in his four uh
21:23replacement games with him. Uh Aaron Glenn says Reall won't be traded. Said that earlier today uh as we taped this on Monday. Will he get the entire
21:31running back job back in New York now that he and he is set to return according to Ian Rapaort. So let's say
21:36he's back this week. Does he get the whole job or are we going to see more Brillan Allen?
21:40>> I think Brilen Allen's earned enough of an opportunity for him to cut into some of Bree Hall's time. But if you're just
21:46going to go by the numbers, well, you look at Bruce Hall's contract and that he signed a deal that they probably feel
21:52like >> they want to feed the guy who's the man.
21:55But I wouldn't be surprised at all if they ease him back in a little bit more and let Allen have a couple more games
22:01where they they see if they can kind of ease Hall in so that he doesn't reinjure anything.
22:08>> Yeah, I think that makes sense. And and I guess the the Raiders could always ease Ashton Genty back in after giving
22:14him two carries. Mike Washington got all the work uh in this one. I I'll say this caught people off surprise. I know did
22:20because I had Sam Gordon from the Las Vegas Review Journal on my Sirius program an hour before kickoff asking him what's going on with Ashton Genty.
22:29What should we expect today? He was very enthusiastic about the possibilities of of Ashton Genty rebounding while running against the football Jets. So apparently
22:39there was no indication that we were going to see this massive shift in workloads and it was massive, right? So, uh, is Mike Washington better than
22:46Ashton Genty? Matt Feler, [ __ ] it.
22:48>> No. [ __ ] no. Um, one of my favorite um is one of my favorite um guys. There's a um Oh, Win. What's his la What's his
22:59first name? I can't remember. But um I'm thinking DatenW, the former um Cowboys linebacker, but Tedwin >> Tedwin who um
23:09>> who writes for the Athletic and last week he did a funny job of like going Yep. Ashton Genty has no vision
23:17whatsoever. And he showed like a few clips of Ashton Genty, supposedly Ashton Genty getting stuffed and and missing creases and and everybody and it was a
23:28bit because it was Mike Washington that was actually that he was showing and Mike Washington got stuffed six times, you know, in this game, too.
23:35>> Yeah, he got he averaged 3.3 yards a carry, had the six stuffs. Uh Genty is still good in the passing attack, three
23:41catches, 64 yards. I feel like this was a benching, a soft benching, like a scatterbo like benching for the mouththing off about the Jets being able
23:50to tackle during the week.
23:52>> Yeah, I think that that was probably it.
23:55I also think that maybe I I sometimes wonder if this is a little bit of a diversion, like a little WWE
24:04diversion kind of thing where for the couple weeks they were talking about maybe we're going to rest him for a week. maybe we rest him for a week and
24:12then they didn't.
24:13>> Um, but maybe this was a good excuse to rest him for the week and say, "Hey, why don't you mouth off about the Jets and
24:19then we'll rest you."
24:20>> 38 snaps to 25. So, it was, you know, about a 6040 split, the direction you wouldn't think it would go in. So, we'll
24:27see. I keep going back to another one of my friends in the uh in the beatw writer industry, Vinnie Bonsingor, who when
24:33when the injury first cropped up uh in the summer, you know, when we didn't know how bad it was and was thought,
24:39man, well, they've got Mike Washington and his line that he tagged on there was like just like defining. It was like,
24:44yes, they have Mike Washington, but he is no Ashton Genty. I think that's probably uh over time going to prove to
24:50be true. We'll just see that. We'll just see if Genty He's fast. I like that. All right. Uh, let the curve stop of Kyler
24:59Murray's game begin. Matt, go.
25:01>> Justin Jefferson's getting a little irritated, isn't he?
25:05>> Yes.
25:06>> He got a touchdown. What does he want?
25:08>> Yeah. A one-yard touchdown. That's what he Yeah. So, hey, that works. It was, you know, Hey, but I think that's the
25:15problem is that he's probably looking at at Murray and he's going, "Yeah, you know why your hamstrings [ __ ] sore?
25:22because you keep running around here the way you do instead of making efficient plays. And I think that's part of the
25:27problem. And then you you look at this and it's like when you basically split mediocre um target value between two players, um it's going to be it's going
25:37to be tough. I'm I'm wait maybe they can get Ty Felton to like come in and and and do something to Murray so that none
25:44of the other players get suspended. I don't know. They're going to they're going to be plotting for this one probably, don't you think? I mean, what
25:51would you I I don't even want to ask you what you would do if you needed to off Tylum Kyler Murray.
25:57>> Well, I would send him not duck hunting with Carson Wentz.
26:02>> That's kind of the That's kind of the GM. That's kind of the General Motors thing they did in Madmen is they they
26:08shot old Kenny, you know, right in the face, >> you know, going hunting like that. some maybe they need to maybe they need to
26:16send Kyler Murray to like GM headquarters >> or toutelage from the the late great Dick Cheney. Uh so we'll see see what
26:24goes on there. Honestly, like you know when you start hearing the rumblings and and he hasn't been great. It was you
26:31know it could have been worse this game.
26:33Uh I mean but it was pretty bad.
26:37for week eight. It I mean I would have thought I mean honestly I was I was betting about week five, week six, but
26:44you know Justin Jefferson's pretty pissed. Got to give him credit. He missed some games. So first we're set back. You're probably still on track
26:51here.
26:53>> All right, let's uh let's uh stop the uh the Murray abuse and uh I wish him good luck in his call to duty activities
27:01today.
27:01>> He's great in that. I hear >> I hear that as well. I think he's I think he's not that bad, but okay.
27:08>> Shimray DK apparently the best player on earth. Is he underrated, Matt?
27:12>> I think he is underrated. I think there's there's this is one of those guys that they should let develop a
27:17little bit more. I kind of worry that um I I look at him and I think he's one of those players that if they if they gave
27:25him an extended opportunity to really develop in two to three years, he would be like one of those an underrated Debo
27:34Samuel type of player. Not as physical, but faster and someone who can go up and get the ball. And I think that he would
27:41be he'd be an asset. And I'm worried sometimes that due to injury and that they wanted to get somebody in like
27:47Wandel Robinson who's very good player.
27:50Um they've they've kind of undercut their developmental um flow here with the player.
27:58>> Fair enough. Um I think we bash Kyler Murray enough. Let's fight a new whipping boy here. Uh Justin Herbert. Uh
28:04as much the problem as Mike McDaniel in Los Angeles. Feel it or [ __ ] it?
28:08>> I'm going to say yes, but I don't and no at the same time. I don't think Mike McDaniel is as much of the problem as
28:17his offensive line is the problem. And and I don't think his offensive line is is the sole problem when you consider
28:24that McDaniel does have a new system and he has young players and they're shuffling in and out and getting hurt. I
28:31mean, you brought in Charlie Kolar, you brought in um, you know, David and Zhoku. You you have Aronda Gatston who still is basically an oversized wide
28:41receiver and not a tight end. Um, and those are your top three tight ends and two of them are new and one of them's a
28:47secondyear player who's not even and a and in a second year as a tight end ever. And let's not even get started on
28:54the wide receiving core. So, you know, add all that together and a run game where you have, you know, one guy who
29:01can run fast and catch, one guy who can run in a straight line really hard, and then one guy who can kind of do it all,
29:08but they don't use enough in Kamani Vidal. And it it's a mess. There's too much going on with all of this and too
29:16many too many pieces. And next thing you know, you're looking at um you know, you're looking at a scenario where Justin Herbert on top of that
29:24makes usually two to three big mistakes a game after making two to three amazing throws.
29:30>> Yeah. Some of the interceptions have been horrific. All the decisions.
29:35>> Yes. And this has been going on for much of his career, but we get blinded by how good of an athlete he is and how
29:44beautiful of a thrower he We got blinded by Madison Beers, he said inappropriately.
29:49>> There you go.
29:51>> But I mean, I think that that's that's part of it is that that's the gravity of the bad plays.
29:57>> Yeah.
29:58>> That you either avoid or that you end up making is more important than the impressive throw that's that's made. And
30:06I think that's the scouting thing that people miss a lot is that the gravity of either avoiding the big the bad play or
30:15the gravity of making the bad play. And if you all you need is two to three of those in a game and you you've lost the
30:22game big time as a quarterback.
30:24>> Yeah. 257 yards passing. 54 of it came on a desperation throw at the end of the first half. It was kind of bounced from
30:30one to Lad McConi and uh uh yeah, it's not been good. and and I he just I don't know if he looks I don't want to like
30:38you look at him he looks either confused, beat down, >> desperate. I mean he never looks like he feels good about anything and maybe
30:46that's you know you're right. I think that's probably a big function of the offensive line. It's the same thing we saw last year once the final piece went
30:52down when Joall went down in week 10. Uh after that there was nothing that anybody could do. I feel like we're in
30:57the same boat this year. So don't don't expect to rebound people. When your offensive line is good and you do this,
31:03you you lose close games or you chargers yourself where you you look like you're on the brink of making the playoffs and
31:10then you you lose some key games, but you look competitive, look promising, like you're about to turn the corner.
31:16When your offensive line's bad and you're doing all that, you've got what we got right now.
31:21>> Yeah. And just uh for your fantasy investors out there, I know we all I talk about a lot, you know, how you
31:27invest in bad offenses and it's skimming the surface. This is a bad offense.
31:31They've gone 27 straight drives without scoring a touchdown. That's the longest streak by any team since 2024. Um I would say that there is no level I would
31:40be willing to skim into. I this week I checked and the highest projected player was Lad Maki. He was wide receiver
31:4836ish. So barely a wide receiver threelevel play under the best of circumstances right now. Until they prove something otherwise, uh it's hard
31:57for me to make a strong case to play any of these uh players in in Los Angeles.
32:02I'm sorry.
32:02>> Yeah, me too. I I just downgraded Lad Makoni in the uh in in my rankings mainly because of that. Good player. he
32:10can't stay healthy and we talked about that last week. You know, some of that speculation, but I'm going to talk about
32:15that with Brandon probably this week a little bit more and see if he has any more thoughts to add about that.
32:20>> All right. Well, I remain healthy. I show up every week. I get the job done.
32:23That's it for the feeler [ __ ] podcast. Matt, what's going on this week? What should people look for now?
32:27They have their email. Everyone's happy with that. What's next?
32:29>> Bob on the hot seat. Bob on serious all week long.
32:33>> I'll be doing that. I think Jim Coventry coming on the hot seat with me from Roto Wire.
32:38>> Bob Harris. What?
32:39>> Yeah, silliness.
32:41>> Yeah, come on now. Look at he's stubbing his toe and moving into the ground right now. But no, I mean that's what we got
32:49going. We talked about it at the top. We appreciate you listening and good luck with the crazy eightweek and hopefully you came out unscathed. I don't know.
32:58>> Two teams on by this week. It might be okay people. It's the Titans and Steelers. It's like not a big impact.
33:02It'll be great.
33:03>> All right, Matt. Love you. Bye.
33:04>> Love you. Bye.