0:00Terry McLaurin, Antonio Williams, I
0:02think they pair very well together.
0:04McLaurin obviously working on the
0:05outside and Antonio Williams primarily
0:07working on the inside. Williams I think
0:09has the skill set of a player that can
0:10actually play Z in two receiver sets. So
0:13I think he will be a slot mostly player.
0:15I don't think he has to be a slot only
0:16player. 75th percentile success rate
0:19versus man coverage.
0:21>> Look at the release.
0:22>> There's your separation. Great route.
0:24>> Starter and go. Gets by clean.
0:26>> That is unbelievable.
0:27>> Maybe the greatest catch I've ever seen.
0:31>> Antonio Williams was the first wide
0:33receiver taken off the board in the
0:35third round, seventh pick in the third
0:37round. He is a Clemson four-year starter
0:42at Clemson and he goes to Washington.
0:45And in Washington there is Terry
0:46McLaurin and no one. Deebo is gone.
0:50Dyami Brown is there. Tray Lan Burks
0:54is I don't even know if he's going to
0:55make the roster, Tray Lan Burks. Luke
0:56McCaffrey is there. I feel like people
0:58have been talking about Luke McCaffrey
0:59for years now.
1:00>> No, nothing has happened.
1:02>> Uh and they've got a a wily old veteran
1:05in Van Jefferson who I I feel like is
1:08going to be like some kind of like
1:09assistant wide receivers coach or
1:10something. More coach than player
1:12perhaps
1:14will Van Jefferson be. Obviously there's
1:16rumors of Brandon Aiyuk but man this guy
1:18has not played since the Reagan
1:19administration so I'm not sure
1:22what we've got left.
1:24>> Reagan administration with Brandon
1:26Aiyuk. But Antonio Williams joins Terry
1:29McLaurin.
1:30>> Um look, I think he's a slot mostly
1:31player. We talked about Antonio Williams
1:33previously on a previous episode of the
1:35podcast. Please go check that out but
1:37man Dabo Sweeney did use him in a lot of
1:39different ways man and I I really liked
1:41that. I liked his versatility. They used
1:43him on trick plays. They used him on
1:44direct hand-offs. Um again, not a ton of
1:47downfield opportunities but I thought
1:49when he had those downfield
1:50opportunities I thought he made some
1:52plays down there too. So he's a good
1:54player is Antonio Williams.
1:57>> Um
1:59you know, you were being you know, funny
2:02there in terms of the Reagan
2:03administration with Brandon Aiyuk. Not
2:05to not to get political here on the
2:06podcast. We're not going to get
2:07political on the podcast, but they
2:09Brandon Aiyuk actually hasn't played
2:11since the previous of president was in
2:13office.
2:13>> Okay.
2:14>> Uh [laughter] he he
2:15he actually actually has he actually has
2:17not played a football game since the
2:19last since before the last presidential
2:21election cuz he went down
2:23>> in October of 2024. So
2:25>> Amazing.
2:26>> [laughter]
2:26>> Uh Brandon Aiyuk actually has not played
2:28football in a minute. And yeah, I mean,
2:29the idea of Brandon Aiyuk coming on this
2:31roster
2:32is very interesting. Um obviously,
2:34nobody was higher on Brandon Aiyuk than
2:36me at Brandon Aiyuk's peak.
2:38>> Yeah.
2:39>> As we're talking about here, uh even the
2:41last time that we saw Brandon Aiyuk was
2:44not Brandon Aiyuk's peak. Not even close
2:46to it. 2023 was that peak year.
2:49And you know, there's mixed reports
2:51about what kind of what kind of shape
2:52he's in, mixed kind of reports about um
2:55is he even in touch with teams that are
2:56trying to like
2:58I I would view that as like, yeah, he's
2:59probably going to be a commander at some
3:01point, but relying on Brandon Aiyuk to
3:04be
3:05the starting outside receiver alongside
3:07Terry McLaurin would be an extremely
3:09extremely risky bet. Like just pen
3:12writing that in pen. Um plus like when
3:14are the Niners going to even let him go?
3:16It's it's a very weird It's a beyond a
3:18weird situation with Aiyuk, the Niners,
3:20and um it maybe not weird, a unique
3:23situation certainly what's going on
3:24there. So, with that in mind, I love
3:28them getting the picture of reliability
3:30in this year's draft class, which is
3:32Antonio Williams. I thought this was a
3:35great pick.
3:36Antonio Williams to me in the third
3:38round, I had him ranked as a tier four
3:40receiver, which as we were talking about
3:41is a guy that I would have taken kind of
3:44early in the second round. So, he goes a
3:46round later than I would have even
3:47ranked him. And obviously, um
3:50we talked about this a lot pre-draft
3:52where Antonio Williams is kind of in
3:53that archetype of wide receiver I've a
3:56I've maybe overrated in years past. So,
3:58I'm trying to sort of
4:00weigh that into into some of my analysis
4:02with Williams and maybe even overweight
4:04it at some point cuz he is a 5'11 187-lb
4:07receiver who in the games I charted for
4:10him in 2025 was in the slot on just
4:13under 82% of his snaps was off the ball
4:16on 86% of his sampled snaps. So, that is
4:20obviously a hyper specific role and an
4:22archetype of slot-based player that is a
4:25little bit going away. That being said,
4:28I think that Williams and this is again
4:30I've I've said this about plenty of guys
4:31in the past that coaching staffs have
4:33disagreed with me. Although it sounds
4:35like the Colts coaching staff might be
4:36coming around on Josh Downs as an
4:38outside receiver. So, uh
4:39congratulations, folks. We're going to
4:41be a year early on the Josh Downs
4:43breakout. Okay. Um but anyways,
4:46Williams I think has the skillset of a
4:48player that can actually play Z in two
4:50receiver sets. So, I think he will be a
4:52slot mostly player. I don't think he has
4:54to be a slot only player. 75th
4:56percentile success rate versus man
4:58coverage and yeah, certainly we know
5:01what Terry McLaurin is going to do. I
5:02think his role could look a little bit
5:04different in this year's offense with
5:05David Blough, a unit that I've talked
5:07about a lot. I'm very high on the idea
5:09of what David Blough is going to do here
5:11with more of a Ben Johnson influence
5:13than what we've seen with Kliff
5:14Kingsbury the last couple of years.
5:16It's been very clear that that's what
5:17they're going to do. More under center,
5:19more play action, more kind of pro level
5:22stuff over the middle of the field.
5:24Um I think we'll see a lot of that mixed
5:25into Washington's offense, which is
5:26exciting. But, you know, this is a team
5:29that I I I I love Williams kind of
5:31landing with this ecosystem in
5:33particular because I think he can be
5:36deployed as a slot mostly but also as a
5:38Z receiver when they get into 12
5:40personnel. Um that being said, I don't
5:42even know how much 12 personnel they're
5:43going to run. You know, it's not like
5:45their tight their tight end room is a
5:46little bit interesting when you look at
5:47that. Well, we can have that
5:48conversation as well, but yeah, I love
5:50Williams landing in this spot. They
5:52needed like a reliable guy. Williams is
5:54a real super reliable player who beats
5:56man and zone coverage and has really
5:58good hands as well. So,
6:00um I'm hoping he's not just a slot only
6:02player and I think that that we know
6:04that Terry McLaurin, like I said, will
6:05probably be deployed in more interesting
6:07ways in this offense than he was in
6:08Kliff Kingsbury's offense, but he's
6:10still going to be a vertical outside X
6:12receiver and for that reason they need
6:14someone of William's skill set.
6:16>> Okay, can we talk about David Blough
6:18very quickly here? Uh he is the new OC
6:20there in Washington. I am sure I'm with
6:22you. I'm sure we're going to see more
6:23stuff uh new stuff. I'm sure we're going
6:25to see more under center stuff. Okay,
6:27that being said um
6:30the quarterback is the quarterback and
6:31generally the offense will
6:34tend to do what he likes to do uh as we
6:37have talked about in in many different
6:39instances here. Uh but that being said
6:41too, David Blough was the quarterback
6:43coach under Kliff Kingsbury last year.
6:46Now, Kliff was also Blough's
6:48>> coach, I think. Assistant
6:49>> So, this is a huge promotion by the way
6:51for Blough. Obviously big projection.
6:53>> For sure. Um and then he was Cliff was
6:56also Blough's head coach in Arizona as
7:00well. So, I think if we're looking for
7:03breadcrumbs, there's a lot more
7:05breadcrumbs to a spread offense
7:08um in Washington than there are anything
7:12else that we would like to project in
7:14regards to Ben Johnson, no?
7:17>> Um I think that
7:19I I think it's going to be a blending of
7:21worlds. And when I say that they're
7:22going to get under center more, number
7:24one, Dan Quinn has said that he wants
7:25them to get under center more and I
7:27think that David Blough, again,
7:28obviously started his career with the
7:30Detroit Lions.
7:31Um actually under the Matt Patricia era.
7:33People forget this. Like
7:35People forget this. Ben Johnson was on
7:36that staff. Like he was he was actually
7:38a holdover from Matt Patricia's staff
7:39and then Dan Campbell kept him on there
7:41cuz they did have history together.
7:44So
7:44>> it's interesting there, but yeah, he's
7:45been with Ben Johnson for a minute as he
7:47has come up the as Ben Johnson came up
7:49the coaching ranks, David Blough was on
7:51that roster. He finished his career back
7:53on the Lions believe practice squad in
7:56one of Ben Johnson's final seasons
7:57there. So yeah, again, like he's got a
8:00lot of ties to Ben Johnson. I think it
8:01will be a blending of those worlds. But
8:02when I say they're going to be under
8:04center more, I mean they quite literally
8:06were 32nd in the NFL in under center
8:08rate last year. So [laughter] I mean
8:09they're going to be under center more
8:11than they were previously. And I do I do
8:14think that Jayden Daniels can handle
8:16more of that, you know, than like a
8:18Kyler Murray type who was tied up with
8:20Kliff Kingsbury previously. I don't
8:22think they're going to go completely
8:23like he's not going to you know, Jayden
8:25Daniels is not going to become Jared
8:26Goff or something like that.
8:29And I think that Jayden Daniels is a
8:31better over the middle thrower than you
8:33know, he was kind of credited coming
8:34into the NFL. But he does obviously
8:36still want to attack on vertical routes
8:38to the outside and I think that we'll
8:40we'll see you know, Antonio Williams do
8:43a variety of different things, but no, I
8:44agree with you that it'll be a blending
8:45of the worlds.
8:47I just, you know,
8:49I I just think generally what's been
8:51said by Washington, Blough's background,
8:56even him saying something that like hey,
8:57this offense is going to revolve around
8:59getting the ball to Terry McLaurin, you
9:01know, 10 times a game. Coaches always
9:02say that. Terry McLaurin's not going to
9:04get 170 targets, you know, 10 per 10 per
9:07game.
9:08I mean that'd be awesome. That'd be
9:09great.
9:10That would be amazing. But I just think
9:12it means like we're going to try to
9:13maximize our play makers and put them in
9:15different spots. And we know that Kliff
9:16Kingsbury was one of the most static
9:18offensive coordinators in the NFL. So
9:20>> Right. Correct.
9:21>> Especially from a deployment standpoint.
9:22So I think we'll see a blending of two
9:24worlds and that by the way will be
9:26really interesting. But just the idea
9:28that like oh, Washington is going to be
9:30first in no huddle rate and first in
9:32shotgun rate and everything
9:34like that. That's you
9:36know, that's where I think you
9:38Yeah, that's where I think we'll see
9:39some change.
9:41>> Terry McLaurin, Antonio Williams, I
9:43think they pair very well together.
9:45McLaurin obviously working on the
9:46outside, Antonio Williams primarily
9:48working on the inside. But I I will say
9:50this, regardless of whether we're
9:52talking about Cliff Kingsbury or Ben
9:54Johnson, I think no matter what,
9:57just given his play history, given his
10:00history with Daryl By the way, when he
10:01was with Detroit originally it was Daryl
10:03Bevell, I believe was his offensive
10:04coordinator.
10:05Um they're going to get vertical. I just
10:07think with the quarterback they've got
10:09there, with with Jayden Daniels,
10:11with the players that they have, I think
10:14that they are going to find ways to get
10:16vertical.
10:17And whether that's under center play
10:19action, that's probably that's been
10:21proven to be the most efficient way in
10:22the NFL to get down field. But Antonio
10:25Williams Williams fits into that scheme
10:29pretty well, too, cuz like I said, even
10:31though he was mostly a slot player there
10:33for Clemson, man, I I just really liked
10:36him. When Dabo got him down field and
10:39asked him to make go make plays, I
10:41thought Antonio Williams did a pretty
10:42good job in that regard as well.
10:45>> Yeah.
10:46>> I like that I like that call by I like
10:48that call by the way. Just one last note
10:50on that. I agree with you that Antonio
10:52Williams is more of a vertical slot than
10:54he is kind of the pop gun slot where you
10:56know you cuz I didn't think he was he
10:58was he tested really well from an
11:00athletic measurable standpoint.
11:02You know, I mean 80th percentile on the
11:0440-yard dash, 80th percentile on the
11:06vertical jump. I didn't necessarily see
11:09like the explosion with the ball in his
11:11hands. He went down on first contact a
11:13good amount of in in my charting, but
11:15where he really did pop, and you can see
11:18this on his route chart on the website,
11:19is like corner routes, post routes, dig
11:22routes, some of those more true vertical
11:24slot routes, both against man and zone
11:27coverage. And I really liked his hands
11:29in contested situations. Only 11.8% of
11:33his sampled targets were contested
11:35target, but he caught almost I believe
11:3980% of those plays. So, I really like
11:42the ball tracking. I thought his hands
11:43improved from previous seasons when he
11:45had more of a higher drop rate and yeah,
11:48I kind of think maybe he could be I feel
11:50like every there's like someone compares
11:51someone to Christian Kirk in every draft
11:53class.
11:54But maybe he could be like more of a
11:55Christian Kirk type of vertical slot
11:58option as opposed to like the other that
12:00spit the ball and he does things after
12:01the catch. So, yeah, if we see more of
12:04you know, I like I said, I'm looking at
12:05the looking at the Commanders tight end
12:07room. I mean, you know, they spent money
12:10on Conquo who obviously is more
12:12of a move tight end and then they have
12:13kind of a blocker in John Bates. So, I
12:15think they'll be in 12 and decent and I
12:17don't we'll see what we get from Ben
12:19Sinnott if anything.
12:21You know, we haven't got a lot from him
12:22so far, but I think they probably will
12:25be in 11 personnel especially if Ayuk's
12:27on the roster more than we think and
12:29that can allow Antonio Williams to be
12:31more of that vertical slot receiver.
12:32Yeah, so he's somebody like post draft.
12:34I mean, I was high on him pre-draft. He
12:36was my wide receiver eight in the class.
12:38So, top 10 receiver for me, a guy I
12:40would have taken early in the second
12:41round. But like from a dynasty
12:42standpoint, you know,
12:44obviously Ayuk is a is a wild card, but
12:46even like year one production, I I've
12:47really
12:49I'm higher on Williams maybe more than
12:51most. I think he's going to have an
12:52instant impact on this team.
12:54>> Well, he's going to have the
12:55opportunity. I think that's for sure.