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Leland. Uh, just the chance that Lovelin is that number one in the Ben Johnson system, that huge positional advantage he offers. I think it's worth it in round four.
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Loveland's round 4 value justified by Ben Johnson system positional advantage and playoff ceiling.
Loveland offers a huge positional advantage as the likely number one tight end in the Ben Johnson system, worth drafting in round four. The appeal is not just separation from tight end 7-8 by five to six points per game, but the capability to produce 10 for 150 and three in any given week—a ceiling the source wants in playoffs across all formats.
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