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22 Fantasy Football Rankings Changes We Made This Week

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Jayden ReedAlec PierceAlvin KamaraBo NixBreece HallBrian RobinsonCeeDee LambChigoziem OkonkwoChris GodwinChristian KirkChristian WatsonCourtland SuttonDaniel JonesDe'Von Achane

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Alec Pierce

PositiveValue26:49

The source is ahead of the market on Alec Pierce, who is being drafted as WR32 despite finishing last year as the WR18 in points per game. He is currently not practicing due to injury but is estimated to return in one to two weeks. He may see an increased target share with Michael Pittman Jr. gone.

Alvin Kamara

NegativeUsage31:19

The source suggests avoiding Alvin Kamara in drafts, arguing he cannot effectively handle early-down work and noting his pass protection was a total disaster last year. He is currently relegated to third-down and passing-situation roles.

Bo Nix

NegativeProjection24:14

Bo Nix is currently healthy and has been producing at a level comparable to Brock Purdy in fantasy formats.

Breece Hall

PositiveValue36:19

There is a consensus that Breece Hall should be ranked higher than Travis Etienne; the source also prefers Hall over rookie Jeremiah Smith at their current draft costs, citing Hall's proven high-end potential and historical usage as a benchmark for breakout rookie running backs.

Brian Robinson

PositiveUsage7:04

The source is bullish on Brian Robinson Jr., ranking him as RB36 and noting his potential to secure a larger role in the backfield through improved pass-catching, despite skepticism from others regarding his ability to steal work from Rachaad White.

CeeDee Lamb

NegativeValue18:18

The source is currently prioritizing Kenneth Walker over CeeDee Lamb in their rankings, weighing the decision between the two players.

Chigoziem Okonkwo

NegativeRole9:07

Reports indicate Chigoziem Okonkwo is being utilized as the de facto wide receiver two, which the source suggests likely cements him as third in team targets.

Chris Godwin

NegativeValue4:20

The source uses Chris Godwin as a benchmark for ranking Stefon Diggs, placing them in the same tier of wide receiver twos.

Christian Kirk

NegativeInjury12:49

Christian Kirk is currently missing practice time due to injury, adding to the concerns surrounding the team's receiving corps.

Christian Watson

PositiveValue22:17

Christian Watson is ranked as the WR24, several spots above his current ADP, and is confirmed to play the Z receiver role in the Packers' offense.

Courtland Sutton

NegativeValue4:16

The source uses Courtland Sutton as a benchmark for ranking Stefon Diggs, placing them in the same tier of wide receiver twos.

Daniel Jones

PositiveInjury27:18

Daniel Jones is participating in training camp seven and a half months after Achilles surgery. While he appeared slightly stiff, the source observed him looking unimpeded and good, noting his health is a major factor for the Colts' offense, which was second in scoring when he was healthy last year.

De'Von Achane

NegativeUsage31:19

De'Von Achane is working on early downs while Alvin Kamara handles third-down and passing situations; the source notes that most fantasy points for running backs are scored on first and second down, downplaying concerns about his lack of third-down work.

Deebo Samuel

PositiveUsage9:35

The source suggests Deebo Samuel could mirror a 'Keenan Allen impression' early in the season, making him a high-value play before potentially fading; he is considered a better redraft pick than a best-ball asset.

DeVonta Smith

NegativeInjury40:54

DeVonta Smith is currently dealing with a hamstring issue that has impacted his availability during Eagles training camp.

Dontayvion Wicks

PositiveRole22:16

Dontayvion Wicks is slated to play the X receiver role for the Packers and has been a standout in camp, earning praise as a vertical threat with increased underneath involvement. He is currently viewed as the clear second-best receiver in camp.

Jacob Cowing

NegativeInjury12:50

Jacob Cowing has left practice early on multiple occasions due to injury, contributing to the team's ongoing depth issues.

Jalen Coker

NegativeValue6:57

The source uses Jaylen Coker as a benchmark for ranking Stefon Diggs, placing them in the same tier of wide receiver twos.

Jayden Reed

NegativeValue4:22

The source uses Jayden Reed as a benchmark for ranking Stefon Diggs, placing them in the same tier of wide receiver twos.

PositiveValue25:17

The source ranks Jaden Reed three spots above his current ADP, noting that his involvement in two-wide receiver sets remains a key question for the upcoming season.

Jeremiyah Love

NegativeProjection36:15

The source is cautious about drafting Jeremiah Love at his current ADP, citing his role in a multi-person backfield on the NFL's lowest-projected offense (18.4 points). Love is smaller than teammates Tyler Allgeier and James Conner, which may limit his goal-line work. While ranked as RB16, the source notes his path to success may mirror Breece Hall's rookie season, potentially not materializing until mid-season.

Jonathan Taylor

PositiveProjection29:05

The source moved Jonathan Taylor up in their rankings, citing his massive production splits with Daniel Jones, noting he averaged over 30 half-PPR points per game in wins when Jones was the starter.

Jordan Addison

NegativeValue4:17

The source uses Jordan Addison as a benchmark for ranking Stefon Diggs, placing them in the same tier of wide receiver twos.

Josh Downs

PositiveUsage4:21

Josh Downs is expected to play in two-wide receiver sets for the Colts. The source projects his average air yards per target to increase and suggests he is a viable flex or WR3 in full PPR formats. Currently drafted as the WR43, he is considered undervalued and is ranked slightly higher than his current ADP.

Josh Jacobs

NegativeUsage23:33

The Packers have been one of the most run-heavy teams in neutral situations, utilizing Josh Jacobs as their primary back.

Kenneth Walker III

PositiveUsage16:59

The source ranks Kenneth Walker III as RB7 and 13th overall, viewing him as the focal point of the offense with significant goal-line and passing-game upside. The source projects a potential LeSean McCoy-type season and notes the team plans to use him as a versatile workhorse, including as a blocker and pass-catcher, with an increased focus on under-center formations to maximize his skill set. He remains a high-value target for projected half-PPR points despite narrative-driven ADP drops.

Kyren Williams

PositiveValue37:27

Kyren Williams is considered a superior draft pick to Jeremiah Love because he plays in an offense projected to score the most points in the NFL and demonstrated significant goal-line usage, ranking fifth in carries inside the 10-yard line last season.

Malik Nabers

PositiveValue36:15

The source prefers drafting Malik Nabers over Jeremiah Love, expressing higher confidence in Nabers' fantasy outlook at his current draft position.

Matthew Golden

PositiveValue25:10

Matthew Golden is ranked as WR44, outperforming his current ADP of WR51, and is considered a key part of the Packers' wide receiver rotation.

Michael Pittman

NegativeValue6:56

The source uses Michael Pittman Jr. as a benchmark for ranking Stefon Diggs, placing them in the same tier of wide receiver twos.

Mike Evans

NegativeValue9:38

Mike Evans has been moved down to WR27 due to recurring soft tissue injuries; he is currently missing practice with a quad strain. The source expresses skepticism regarding his ability to stay healthy for a full season at age 32.

Quinshon Judkins

PositiveSleeper20:07

Quinshon Judkins is a preferred late-round target due to his talent and lack of competition for touches in his backfield. While there are concerns regarding the quality of his offense, he is expected to gobble up volume.

Rashee Rice

NegativeUsage16:19

The source expresses nervousness regarding Rashee Rice's usage and performance, specifically noting concerns after watching him run in a straight line during training camp, which raises doubts about his agility and overall role.

Rhamondre Stevenson

PositiveValue19:41

Rhamondre Stevenson is ranked at RB27, slightly above his current ADP, and is viewed as a better value than TreVeyon Henderson due to his established goal-line role and superior production in games played together. He is expected to split work with Henderson, making both players flex options.

Ricky Pearsall

NegativeInjury9:29

Ricky Pearsall is out for the season following PCL surgery, a development that has significantly impacted his fantasy ranking and the team's depth chart.

Saquon Barkley

NegativeUsage18:40

There are reports that Saquon Barkley's workload may shift from 24 carries per game to a 17-20 carry range, with Tank Bigsby potentially absorbing more early-down work.

Stefon Diggs

PositiveValue2:13

Stefon Diggs is currently undervalued on Yahoo at an ADP of 159 and should be drafted closer to pick 100. He is ranked 90th overall (WR42) with a secure path to playing time as the WR2 in Washington. While he may not be as effective on a per-route basis as in his prime, he is expected to be a near full-time player in a Kliff Kingsbury offense that utilizes motion and play-action, benefiting from the effective quarterback play of Jayden Daniels.

Tank Bigsby

PositiveUsage18:49

Reports indicate Tank Bigsby may take on a larger early-down role, which could potentially shift Saquon Barkley's workload from 24 carries per game down to a 17-20 carry range.

Terry McLaurin

NegativeUsage3:57

Terry McLaurin is viewed as the primary pass catcher in Washington, though his target volume may be capped below 10 per game due to the addition of Stefon Diggs. He is ranked ahead of peers like DJ Moore, Mike Evans, and Davante Adams due to superior film performance and lower injury risk.

Travis Etienne

PositiveUsage8:20

Despite not playing third-down snaps, Travis Etienne remains a strong fantasy asset because he catches passes on first and second down, which is sufficient to pay off his ADP. The source notes he is playing behind an improved offensive line and remains a preferred target over other options in his tier.

TreVeyon Henderson

NegativeBust19:06

TreVeyon Henderson remains a work in progress with recurring pass protection mistakes and struggles on contact. Despite showing efficiency in yards before contact metrics, he is expected to split backfield work with Rhamondre Stevenson, limiting his ceiling to a flex role.

Tyler Warren

PositiveSleeper27:31

Tyler Warren is identified as a primary draft target and sleeper pick who could outproduce his ADP. The source values him as the best screen and manufactured-touch player who can be effectively utilized in the flats and on bootlegs.

Xavier Worthy

NegativeInjury6:42

Xavier Worthy is currently a durability concern after leaving practice with a shoulder injury; the source questions his ability to stay healthy, despite previously noting he possesses more theoretical upside than Stefon Diggs in his current role.

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0:00You know what time it is. Pre-season games are around the corner. Padded practices have arrived. The clips, the beat rider reports, all of it is hitting

0:09your inbox at the exact same time. So, it's only right for Hayden and I to make a few, and I mean just a few vital

0:16rankings changes in reaction to the news, depth charts, and injuries. And by a few, Hayden, uh I think I actually have like 22 items written down that

0:24have impacted our rankings this week. Uh it's a big show. It's time to do it.

0:28>> Yeah. Everything's in big swings here.

0:30We're getting some preseason nuggets from reporters. We're getting players signed. Uh I think every about Thursday we'll have fresh rankings over on Yahoo.

0:37We'll do a version of this show. We have preseason games to react to. This is just, you know, the first 10-ish days.

0:42Uh there's a lot of nuggets and I think some of it is like I believe this nugget and there's sometimes like that nugget

0:48came out and I actually disagree with it.

0:49>> Totally. And I should mention coach speak is a part of this too. Listening to the press conferences. Yeah. If you

0:54want more of this, just know that every single Monday and Tuesday after preseason games, we will post two of these shows on rankings updates after

1:02watching literally every single preseason game. That's going to start on, I believe, Monday, August 17th. So, hit subscribe now. I mean, to get them

1:10in your feed, it's totally free to all of you. And you all have helped us get to 175,000 subscribers here on this channel. That

1:17is nuts. But that just means 200,000 is up next. Yeah, Hayden said rankings updates. You've been asking for it. In the description down below, you can find

1:26our rankings over on Yahoo for both half and full PPR. Uh those are updated on the site every single Thursday, but

1:33again, we're updating them constantly on top of it. So, check that out in the description. Okay, very newsy item to start with. Stefon Diggs is now a

1:41Washington commander. There was buzz about this for a few days, then it happened. Dig signs with the commanders one year up to $12 million. Simple

1:49question, Hayden. Where do you rank him?

1:51>> 90th overall. He's my wide receiver, 42.

1:53And then I looked and you have him exactly at 90th overall. So we we're in lock step here. Like you said, this

1:59one's been in the process for weeks. I think since that like usually quote that we got from the GM, kind of scratched

2:05off Brandon Aayuk, who I completely withdrew from my rankings pretty much.

2:10And then I think Diggs was like the last remaining option for them. I'm treating this one as serious because Steph Digs

2:16in a part-time role last year kind of more of a slot underneath guy rather than the downfield threat that he was in

2:21his absolute prime was still getting the job done. Obviously, he was playing with Drake May, but Jaden Daniels is a very

2:26effective quarterback. They don't have another wide receiver too that he's going to be competing with. So, there's a chance his snaps goes up. I don't

2:33think he's gonna be as effective on a per route basis. That's fine. Jaden Daniels, there's upside here. It's just Terry McLuren and Steph Diggs. I would

2:40not be surprised if he's a near full-time player in around the the the guys that I'm ranking him next to. I

2:47feel better about that offense or his path to playing time than some of the other guys.

2:51>> So, I have him as wide receiver 40 and that might even be a little bit ahead of you. Like, is that too rich? Like, we're

2:56talking about for me my rankings in that territory. Courtland Sutton, Jordan Addison, Jordan Tyson, other wide receiver twos on other teams right

3:05before Chris Godwin, Josh DS, Jaden Reed. Like that might seem crazy where I think I had him previously when he hadn't signed with anyone in like the

3:1370s, but now that he has, we know the landing spot. I mean, this is the perfect place for a veteran to go to,

3:19right? It's a now more traditional hopefully drop back offense with, you know, David Blau is going to get these guys in motion, use shifts, use play

3:27action with, you know, the stale stuff that Seth Kingsbury wasn't doing. And you have Terry who, you know, is going to be the primary pass catcher here. I

3:35highly doubt we get up to 10 targets per game with Terry, but man, they were just craving and crying out for a second

3:40target. And when Stefon Diggs has been on the field the last couple of years, he has produced. I just hope somehow

3:46someway we get 17 games of Stefon Digs this season.

3:50>> Yeah, but I think a reddraft, even if you can start him as your wide receiver three, like during the early parts of

3:54the by-weeks and stuff, I still think that there's some value here. I think that his floor is pretty solid aside from from injuries. So, I have him after

4:02Josh Downs, Worthy, Addison, Mai Lemon.

4:04I just think that there's too much like theoretical upside with those those players and those guys seem pretty good uh in terms of their playing time aside

4:11from Mai Lemon. We'll get on that to that in a second here. But then he's in the the conversation Chris Godwin,

4:16Courtland Sutton, Michael Pitman, Jaylen Coker, those types. I just think that his pathway in that offense seems pretty secure to me. So I think this is going

4:24to be the range that he goes in. Right now on Yahoo, Steph Diggs is like buried at 159. Not for long. He should be going

4:31around pick 100.

4:32>> Yeah. ask if you can do your drafts now so you can get Stefon [laughter] Digs on your team before that X rank goes up

4:38much higher. Yeah, you can see on the screen right now the eighth round picks that uh we would be placing Stefon Diggs

4:45up against. And yeah, I mean we talked about it yesterday on the show with Nate Ty. If you just look at where the

4:50commanders are projected in points, they are right in the middle uh at 16th, right around the Philadelphia Eagles, Jacksonville Jaguars, Indianapolis

4:57Colts, and Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And really the only player that we were truly selecting high other than Jane Daniels was Terry McLuren. I mean

5:06everyone was going super late. And so now we have someone that we can tag on to a Jane Daniel stack if we want to.

5:13>> I have Terry McLuren after Jameson Williams and Christian Watson now. And I think I will flip both Roma Dunce and

5:19Luther Burden ahead of him. I do think this matters to him just just a little bit. Terry McLuren versus DJ Moore, Mike

5:25Evans, Dvonte Adams. Uh, I think I'm gonna rank McLaren ahead of that group because I think he's just better on film

5:31than those guys and a little bit less injury um concern. Um, but I do think, you know, Christian Watson and JMO,

5:37those guys are pretty damn electric right now.

5:39>> Interesting. I'm standing firm on my highly ranked 20th overall wide receiver for Terry McLaren at this point. We'll see if I move it.

5:47>> What about Chico Quano? Did I move?

5:49>> Yeah, I was going to ask you this followup that that's my highest drafted player in Chico Quano. Uh we got reports

5:55this week from I believe it was Jeremy Fowler saying that Chig O' Quano was quote the current de facto wide receiver

6:02too. Uh the dream is dead.

6:04>> This one was kind of expected. I think that it's still a fine landing spot. The the fact that Chig is has been utilized

6:10as like the wide receiver too makes me feel like he will be third in targets.

6:15Uh I think there's a lot of players that are going to be third like him versus Jawan Johnson. Like is there much of a

6:20difference between those two? So, I think I have him ranked, I think, just outside my top 150. He's my tight end 17

6:27at 162. I feel really bad about tight end 16 to tight end 25 this year. I'm looking for sleepers. He's still

6:34probably the best one.

6:36>> I don't think that he's good enough to like actually be like a top 10 finisher, though.

6:39>> Yeah, I mean, he's going on Yahoo right after Jake Ferguson and Mark Andrews who are locked into their positions, but

6:47then just before Aronda Gadston, for example. Um, maybe I'm wrong, but I'm taking Chico Quanko over Aronda Gatson frequently.

6:54>> Yeah, I'm not sure if we have Gatsson in our show list, but he's uh he's running he's running like behind like Djoku and

7:02Charlie Kohler right now in a very part-time role.

7:04>> This may be for me, but we do have Bill Crosky Merritt in our show notes and we've talked about him quite a bit

7:09recently, but this comes from Ben Standig who longtime coverer of the Washington Commanders. Quote, Jakori Kroski Merritt isn't simply being handed

7:19running back one duties. However, last season's leading rusher is flashing enough as a pass catcher to position himself for the largest role in the

7:28backfield. Other observers have also talked up his passing skills. Hayden, I am well above market on Bill Crosky Merritt. I have him running back 36 and

7:38actually four spot gap between he and Rashad White who I have ranked after.

7:43Uh, I know that I think you and Nate disagree with that take, too.

7:46>> Yeah, that's one I'm putting into the wait and see category. It's obviously promising that Jaka Crosky may they're at least giving the opportunity to do

7:53so. I still think it's, you know, a pretty big uh leap of faith to think that he's actually going to steal the

7:58pass game work from Rashad White, who's like routinely considered one of the best.

8:01>> I don't think that's the case. I It's more as long as he's not a total liability in that area. That's all I

8:07want to happen.

8:08>> Yeah. And most uh receptions happen on first and second down. That's one of these narratives where you're oh he's not playing third downs he's not going

8:15to catch passes that's not true like look at like uh Travis Aan last year for example he still had >> and this exact same note when we talk

8:21about a bit later on >> perfect yeah so with Jakori going back to college he caught >> seven passes and then his final year uh

8:29only like a game or two he didn't catch a pass so like there's zero evidence that he can actually do this so I think

8:34there I would put this in the experiment column if I see in the preseason if this continues to go on then I'll start

8:40treating this seriously I have these guys still ranked fairly close together.

8:43>> Yeah. The thing that sticks out in my head is Josh Connorly talking about outside and and wide zone, how they're

8:49going to lean into that, how the offensive line was fantastic at blocking that. One of the highest rates in the league in terms of per carry basis and

8:56then Bill led the NFL last year in yards per carry on wide and outside zone. So, he's going later than he did last year.

9:02>> He is. And I I do like that this is the cheapest backfield. This and the Vikings are the two cheapest backfields in

9:07fantasy. I'm waiting for goal line carries. I think that one's still very up for for debate because I think that Bill Crosby is more explosive. Does not

9:13that does not mean he's the more efficient success rate guy. Rashad White's a pretty big back for like the receiving type. So like that's who I

9:21want. Who's going to get the goal line role is probably mixed. Let's talk about the 49ers wide receivers because it's changing on a daily basis right now. Um

9:29we're going to talk Ricky Pieraw being out for the season with a PCL surgery now that he did not get surgery on

9:35previously. Since then, Debo Samuel also signed for a one-year deal. Since then, Mike Evans also suffered a quad strain and is now out of practice. And also,

9:4533rd overall pick, Deshawn Stribbling has looked apart in training camp, but is also missing time right now. So, how Dean and starting this off with Hayden

9:54is with Ricky Pearl out, where are you ranking Deshawn Stribbling and Debo Samuel and which one is higher? I have dribbling slightly ahead, but there's a

10:03big caveat here in that I think that DVO Samuel is like more likely to finish like ahead of Stribbling and like

10:08fantasy points, but not enough to like actually reach your starting lineup. I think that we need like some level of a

10:14ceiling that I don't think that Debo necessarily has where I do think that Stribbling has just a better chance of having a ceiling. So, they're both

10:21parked right outside my top 50 wide receivers. I think those are firmly dart throws. That said, if Mike Evans quad issue is serious and he hasn't practiced

10:31the last couple days and we just we just never know about that, th that type of injury, George KD setbacks, George KD

10:38just not looking the same. Those are the type of ways where striping or dbo Samuel can sneak into relevance here.

10:44So, I think that both of them should absolutely be drafted in 10 team and 12 team leagues. These are firm bench

10:50stashes, wait and see. And then in week one rankings, I will have DVO Samuel ahead. So, prior to all this, I had

10:58Ricky Pearl as the wide receiver 35 and Deshawn Stribbling as the wide receiver 60. So, some people might say, then why

11:05not just have one of these wide receivers now as the wide receiver 35 if you just want to replace that? I I just

11:10can't get there. I I do have Stribbling as the wide receiver 50. In recent Yahoo drafts, he's being selected as the wide

11:16receiver 49 and I do have Debo as wide receiver 60. Now, I was in on dbo last year to start the season. And actually,

11:24he had some really nice games to open the 2025 season, but he just tailed off.

11:29Uh, it's a slow burn, let's say. Um, I kind of think that that might be the same exact thing. Now, hey, I can also

11:37get to a point and hopefully Stribbling like comes back soon and plays in some of these preseason games. He was ripped

11:44apart when we talk about NFL draft picks. we talked about in our Dynasty uh rankings video after the draft where he

11:50was going like at the 25 or the 207 which is nuts stuff. Uh he might just come in and and shock the world and fit

11:59in here as a power player with athleticism who was a bit of an older prospect. Like I I am open to moving

12:06well up from wide receiver 50, but that's just where I land on at this point.

12:10>> Yeah, I'd like to see them get on the field first. So this is a very much wait and see. I could not move scribbling

12:16ahead of Casey Conpsion because of what I witnessed on their college tapes. That was my line here to start. I have

12:22dribbling by Rasheed Jahid, Romeo Dobs, Wel Robinson, Khalil Shakir, those types. I think that he has some semblance of a ceiling that those guys

12:31just might not have in their offense.

12:33And then um I am open to Debo Samuel doing a Keenan Allen impression where like all of a sudden like week one, two,

12:39three comes around, we're like, "Oh my god, he's you have to play him early on." Uh then it kind of peters out. I

12:44would not be surprised if Debo Samuel does that early on, which makes him, I think, a better reddraft pick than in

12:49baseball.

12:49>> Yeah. And Christian Kirk's missing practice. Jacob Cowing just left practice today, too. It shows you how removed Bren Ike is from this team, too,

12:57that it's not even part of the conversation to bring Bren Nayuk back. I do have one question. Are you moving Mike Evans at all in your rankings here?

13:04>> I've been moving him down a little bit because he's just been banged up. I mean, >> look, it's soft tissue injuries year

13:11after year with Mike Evans. There's definitely a ceiling to chase here. Um, but man, I I like moved like DJ Moore

13:18ahead of him for for example. I have Roma Dun Luther Burden. Like these guys, >> I swear to you, the audience, hey, and I

13:25do not share notes prior to this. My one note is I have now moved AJ Moore ahead of Mike Evans and Evans is now my wide

13:32receiver 27 in drafts and uh, you know, he's going earlier than that as wide receiver 26 on Yahoo at this point.

13:41Final point on Mike Evans is we don't get any fantasy points on August 5th. So there's a lot of training camp injuries

13:46that are one week we don't care about it. To me it's just kind of like the drum beat as we like oh it's been two

13:51three weeks now it's or it's a rookie and they offenses doesn't even know how to use them yet. Where with Mike Evans

13:57if it this is just a oneweek thing I'm not that concerned about it. Uh it's just you know a little bit different

14:02when we're talking about his injury history and like something that's already popped up this quick.

14:06>> Yeah. And I know it's not a hamstring issue. it's a quad issue, but we also see Mike Evans miss two to four games on

14:11like a four-year basis with with hamstring issues. And you know, in a perfect world, you know, it's cool to see a play caller like Kyle Shanahan

14:18link up with a Hall of Famer like Mike Evans just as he did with Chris McAffrey. But at that time when he did

14:23it with Chris McCaffrey, he was like 26 years old and Mike Evans is 32 years old. So, it's like a big difference.

14:28Like it he can change this passing game.

14:31Uh it we just >> it's tough to trust him to play the entire season. Final question. What does it say about the 49ers though if we're

14:39moving literally all of these names down the draft board?

14:42>> I think that's a totally fair question to the point that I've also moved Brock Pury down my rankings a little bit.

14:47Someone like Jackson Dart where maybe a month ago I've been like, "Yeah, right.

14:51I'm not going to do it." Now, I think that's very uh up for grabs. Bo Nicks has been finishing right next to Brock

14:56Party, he's healthy and he added Jaylen Wadd. Uh Brock Party's losing guys left and right here. So, uh, I'm not taking

15:03it for granted that the 49ers are going to finish top 10 like they always do in scoring. Like, look at this team, man.

15:08The offensive line's not even good either. It's a very fragile offense.

15:10They're all very old, very slow. It would be like a feather and Shanahan's Hall of Fame cap if this team could

15:17finish top five in scoring this year just looking at all the personnel that they have.

15:22>> And the main reason, well, one of the reasons why we were drafting so many 49ers last year is because on paper,

15:27they had the easiest schedule. And so while everyone got hurt, they still were able to overcome it because of the easy

15:32schedule. It is not nearly as easy this season. Let's go to the top of the draft because whenever there's Ken Walker, the

15:39third propaganda, we have to bring it up. Uh Dan Gratziano over at ESPN said, quote, "They signed Ken Walker for a

15:46reason and they believe he gives Andy Reid something he hasn't he hasn't had in a very long time. A running back that

15:52can do everything they need. They like him as a blocker, a pass catcher, as a between the tackles runner, they're running more under center plays with

16:00Mahomes as they think that's the best way to maximize what Walker does best.

16:05So for all of us that drafted K9 last year and we're frustrated with him not getting all of the work, Hayden, this is

16:12music to our ears.

16:13>> I'm moving up to ninth overall in half PPR. I um nobody will be higher on him than than I [laughter] and I and I love

16:19it. Look, man, I watched Rasheed Rice run in a straight line. I'm a little bit nervous there. I know we're still ways

16:25away here. He's not going to run in a straight line that often. Just like watch him and be like, do we really feel

16:30good about that? Xavier Worthy leaves practice a shoulder injury. How long could he stay healthy? We know what Travis Kelce is at this point. I'm

16:37watching Patrick Mahomes go under center in a lot of the training camp clips.

16:40That's really notable. Something that Nate and I just talked about on his show when we were previewing the AFC West is

16:46Mahomes. If he's doing this like with that big brace on early on, like getting under center where where that's difficult to do, that's a sign that like

16:53the Chiefs really want to make that a priority. Like they're like, I don't care that your knee hurts. You're getting under center. The reason why

16:59you're doing that is because Kenneth Walker is the focal point of the offense. All the Cadarius Tony BS stuff that we would get by the goal line, the

17:06Travis Kelce stuff, Kenneth Walker right behind Creed Humphrey for for six points. And I think he's going to catch passes. It's Amari De Marcado and like

17:13guys that we don't even like and D as backups. Like come on. The Super Bowl MVP.

17:19>> Again, this is one of the cases where you love a player and then someone just loves him even more than you do.

17:24>> I have K9 as running back seven 13th overall, which is way higher than any other platform is going to draft him.

17:31But here you are as overall ninth player. Like I have to decide if I want CD Lamb or K9 basically. And you're just

17:38taking Kidden Walker to the third over him every single time.

17:40>> Yeah, I think CD Lamb's interesting. Uh Saquon Barkley and Kenneth Walker was the thing I was like focusing on right

17:45before this show. Uh it's not that big of a deal to me. There's some reports that Tank Bsby like might take on a

17:50little bit bigger of like an early down role where maybe Saquon Barkley's not getting the 24th carry of the game.

17:55Maybe he's like more settles into the 17 to 20. It's these little nitpicks that we have to do. And it sounds crazy when

18:01you're sitting here and like these are the smallest little differences. try to rank the one two turn all these running backs there. I just feel good about you

18:08know the Super Bowl MVP joining Andy Reid history and like I can see a Leawn McCoy type of season from Ken Walker.

18:15>> Yeah, we deserve this after last year.

18:16We definitely deserve this. We'll talk about the wide receivers and the Chiefs a little bit later on in the rookie segment. Okay, let's talk Patriots

18:22backfield. Um reportedly according to the athletics Chad Graph, Trevan Henderson looks just like he did last year and that means the same warts are

18:31in his game. quote, "It's looked a bit like last season. Big explosive plays, but just enough mistakes in pass protection that it feels like a risk to

18:40use him on third downs. If you can improve in that skill, though, look out." This is one of the players that he

18:45had glaring flaws in his game last year.

18:48Uh, namely to me, he was good in pass protection to Ohio State, uh, and then was confused last year and then just on

18:54contact lost a bit too often. So Hayden, despite all that and despite Reandre Stevenson basically outscoring him in games that they played together, he is

19:02still being selected on every single platform well ahead of Arandre Stevenson. That's running back 24 versus running back 30. Does that need to

19:11change?

19:12>> Uh I haven't changed. I have them very close together. I'm going to let the rest of training camp uh speak to me on

19:17which one I would rather draft as we get closer to like peak reddraft season.

19:21It's interesting that you had Chad Graph. I was listening to a different Patriots beat report, I forget which one it was, echoing the exact same thing

19:29that they're just like not seeing it with Trayvon. So like I don't know if they're watching practices and they're seeing the same thing or if they're like

19:35listening and they're kind of hearing the same narratives. Maybe the the coaching staff's like, "Hey, Raandre is really good. Trayvon's a work in

19:41progress to kind of like mitigate some of the the the talk that would be happening between that." Look, there's a huge gap that Raandre has over Trayvon

19:49in the playoffs. And on top of that, the goal line role, you're on the one yard line. You're going to give it to the guy

19:54that weighs like 235 pounds over that.

19:56So, I think Trayven has to be exceptional in the pass game work in half PPR to overtake the goal line role

20:01that Raander Stevenson has. So, I have them close together. Both of them outside my top 25. And like I think at

20:07this point I was there. Basel Ton just like I'd rather just take the chance on someone like that. Quinton Judkins I

20:13know is really good at football with no competition behind him. I know it's a way worse offense, but I'll just gobble

20:17up the touches because I mean Trayvon in the playoffs he was like five expected points per game.

20:22>> Yeah, your reddraft ADPs out there are going to have a six running back gap between the two. Um I'm only at two

20:28spots between them and that's namely because I Andre Stevenson ranked higher than ADP at running back 27. You know what was interesting to me and this

20:36might be, you know, one study going against your eyes. Um, even though I wasn't as down on Hindo as other people,

20:44but that same Sam Hoppins stat and study that we side with Ash and Genty actually had Trevven Henderson as like the third

20:51best runner when it came to yards before contact, which was kind of surprising to me.

20:56>> It's one of those uh stats out there where a huge explosive if you're not touched like you got to the perimeter

21:03like that one play where it's like your expected yards before contact's like 40 yards downfield that could like kind of skew things. So, it's one of those where

21:08like you have to like put a cap to things. There's adjustments that you can be made. I just think that the reality

21:13is like to me it's the goal line role is what we're looking for in half PPR. I still feel good that's going to be

21:17Randre Stevenson. Uh but at the same time, you can only get so high on Raandre because he was clearly ahead of

21:24Trayvon last year and he was the RB21 when the Patriots made it to the Super Bowl. So, there's a chance where both of

21:30these guys are mixing in and like neither of them are like really moving the needle. They're both flex options for you. I think that's probably like

21:36the most likely scenario at this point.

21:37>> To me, the biggest thing is their offensive line and how it was reorganized this year just needs to play better. Like in the first half of last

21:43season, they could not block block from tight end to tight end. Um, and that's why when they finally leaned into the

21:49edge runs of Trevan Henderson, they finally got their best success. Now, that changed as the season went along, but you know this of signing Elijah Bear

21:57Tucker and moving their, you know, rookie left guard last year now into center and drafting maybe their right dagger of the future and Caleb Blumu.

22:04Maybe they get better blocking this year. So, we'll see because that that that's more important than basically any individual skill set. It's just the

22:11yards that you give them. Okay, >> let's talk Packers wide receivers. Well, we got an interview this week from Jordan Love, as we've mentioned before,

22:17is that Matthew Golden, the secondyear wide receiver, is going to play X and Christian Watson is going to play Z. I

22:25love this as someone that ranks Christian Watson as wide receiver 24, which is a handful of spots above ADP.

22:33But at the same time, Hayden, I looked and I'm above market on every single Packers wide receiver.

22:37>> That's that's kind of a good spot to be in. I I thought this wasn't that notable because I was expecting this. Um,

22:44>> yeah. So to me, >> well, I think from a size standpoint though that this would surprise people in that Matthew Golden is not the

22:52biggest player, but his skill set, as we outlined in the second year wide receiver show, kind of fits fits X in

22:58terms of >> at the very least and you know, at his worst elements, he's going to be a really nice vertical role player and

23:06hopefully he can build his game off of that and that, you know, then allows Christian Watson and January to do their

23:11best work in the other areas of the field, too.

23:13>> Yeah. To me, it's like Christian Watson was so good in this exact role. Why would you change it? Like, let's just

23:17hope that uh Matthew Golden could turn into Romeo Dobs plus and add a little bit more after the catch than Romeo was

23:23able to do. Work in progress. Reports for Golden though in general have been pretty optimistic. He's won. He's been like the MVP of some uh of some days at

23:33camp already. um they're trying to get him more involved underneath and that's something that Laflura talked about that there's more to his game, more

23:39toughness, more yards after catch uh opportunities in his profile. We didn't see that very often as a rookie. And I think the biggest note for me with

23:47Packers is just repeated use of we got to get the plays out faster. We got to get to the line of scrimmage faster.

23:53More tempo. And if you look at the last four years, the Packers have been the slowest pace team in neutral situations.

23:58Also been one of the most runheavy teams in neutral situations with Josh Jacobs.

24:03I'm not sure if the offensive line is as powerful as it was three, four years ago. Uh I think that they're actually

24:09probably a bottom five, bottom 10 offensive line at this point. I wouldn't be surprised if they're like our best opportunity now is let's change some of

24:16the offense. Jordan loves our our main guy and now we have three wide receivers that we feel good about uh with

24:22explosives. Let's stop being a slow paced balanced offense. Let's have a little bit more fun. And I think that's how you're ranking where you have

24:29everybody ranked ahead of ADP. you take a couple swings on these guys and and see how how it plays out.

24:35>> Yeah, I mean you look at the implied team total just for the entire season.

24:40The Packers are projected for the eighth highest scoring offense. And then other than the Jacksonville Jaguars, this is the triplet and trio of wide receivers

24:49that we want to draft most often. And so, yeah, I kind of want all of them because in previous years, they've all

24:55been talented, but they've just been cycled and replaced and we didn't know who was going to be in the field. You

25:00better hope we know who's going to be in the field in this stuff. Like, it's not going to be Savon Williams. It's not

25:04going to be Bo Melton who's going in and out of playing corner and wide receiver.

25:08It has to be Christian Watson. Has to be Matthew Golden, who I have as wide receiver 44 despite him being drafted as

25:14wide receiver 51. And then I have Jaden Reed three spots above his ADP as well.

25:18>> Yeah, I got Matthew Golden just ahead of Jaden Reed. We're about to have the Packers uh what's called family night.

25:22And one of my favorite columns is Justice MCA tracks every single snap alignment, every every little detail you possibly would want. and that's their

25:29scrimmage that they actually treat seriously versus some of the preseason stuff. We're going to get that information very soon and I cannot wait

25:36to see if that's Matthew Golden two wide receiver sets as I expect or if there's an upset here where Jaden Reed gets a

25:41little bit more involved even though he's never done that throughout his uh four years with the Packers.

25:46>> Love that. All right, moving on. Let's talk more wide receivers and guys stepping up into roles. Josh DS and the

25:54Indianapolis Colts. Yes, we're a fantasy football podcast, so we have to talk about Josh DS. Um, all reports that he's going to be in two

26:02wide receiver sets. Now, Hayden, that shouldn't be a surprise. Look at their two wide receivers. And in fact, no wide receivers other than Josh Downs right

26:10now out there because Alec Pierce isn't practicing at this moment. Um, Solak wrote that Josh Downs has never had an average air yards per target above

26:19eight. The league average for receivers over the past three seasons is 10.7.

26:24that should go up. Uh we just saw Stefon Diggs sign with the Commanders. And so Hayden, I think that this is another

26:31prime opportunity for a veteran wide receiver to sign here. But let's say they don't. Where does Josh Downs rank for you?

26:37>> I would say even if they do, if it's Keenan Allen, I think that's like a a temporary like band-aid. And I do think

26:42that they should be spinning this thing forward towards Josh Downs. The the math on how this thing works is the Colts

26:48averaged 8.2 routes in 12 personnel last year. If you kind of look at that on like what Josh DS accumulates on a per

26:54route basis, that would be another two targets per game about 15 20 yards per game on top of that, that's like enough

27:00for him to be, I would say, a flex in in full PPR and then somebody that you can throw in as your wide receiver three.

27:07So, I've got him ranked as my wide receiver 38. I'm waiting for more news with Alec Pierce. He seems like one to

27:12two weeks away. I will say it's promising that Daniel Jones just like was out there in the first day of train

27:19of training camp and like obviously you know it's a torn Achilles I think it's his back push off Achilles on top of

27:25things so that could uh make him less effective but the fact that he's at least out there I think is promising. I

27:31think DS and Alec Pierce and Tyler Warren are pretty nice picks because I think that one of them I think is going

27:39to really outproduce their ADPs and that might just come down to which one's the healthiest.

27:45>> Yeah, obviously with Josh DS, he's a fan favorite out there and he's being drafted as wide receiver 43. I have him

27:54just a little bit above that. the player other than Jonathan Taylor I'm I'm really drafting is Tyler Warren just because I think he is the best screen

28:01player, he is the best manufactured player. He's the one I can close my eyes and say, "Okay, on a split flow action

28:07or a boot or offplay action, you just get him into the flats and and let him rumble." I did want to bring up Daniel

28:13Jones, though. Uh Solak, who was at Cam, that's why we're citing this, and wrote it on ESPN said, quote, >> "I saw an unimpeded Daniel Jones. If you

28:21didn't tell me the quarterback was only seven and a half months removed from Achilles surgery, I wouldn't have known.

28:26Of course, I'm not a medical professional and I'm watching him take 20-ish snaps during a 90 minute practice one week in training camp. But Jones

28:33looks, if anything, just a little stiff and uncertain when he's moving. Maybe that's just my projection of his injury history, too. Suffice to say, he looks

28:40good. This is notable, Hayden, because the Colts were second in scoring last year when Daniel Jones was healthy, and now they're projected for the 17th most

28:48points. And as an individual, he's being drafted as quarterback 25.

28:52>> Yeah, I think it matters the most for the other pass catchers because you remove Michael Pitman from the equation there. So, um, yeah, I feel good about I

28:59actually did move Jonathan Taylor. I think I flipped him with somebody in the first round just seeing that Daniel Jones like looks to be on pace and there

29:05was for years huge splits with Taylor with the starting quarterback versus the backup. Um, and your note where he was averaging over 30 fantasy points per

29:14game with Yando Jones through 10 weeks or whatever it was.

29:17>> Crazy. Um I I will not forget that >> in wins. Yeah, when they won games, Jonathan Taylor averaged over 30 half

29:23PPR fantasy points. [laughter] >> I mean, you can get him like the ninth tenth pick sometimes. That seems good.

29:29>> I think that's league winner stuff when someone 30 fans >> 30 >> 30.

29:35>> Um one final question here and maybe it's unanswerable, but we have seen when players miss the majority if not all of training camp,

29:44how much it impacts their regular season. How much longer does the Alec Pierce injury have to linger for him to like I know you have to rank him

29:53somewhat highly because that's what you do, but like just to say, "Hey, I'm probably not going to be able to draft

29:58him ever."

29:58>> Well, I actually am ahead of market on Alec Pierce because it sounds like he's going to be back in the next two-ish

30:05weeks and he have like two weeks to kind of ramp up and he was he's being drafted so much further down than where he

30:11finished last year. You lose Michael Pitman. Obviously, I'm not expecting him to to have the same yards per target that he had the previous season, but

30:19there was speculation and I believe it that they do think that he can run more inbreaking routes and be have higher

30:25targets this year.

30:26>> That's why they would pay him that much.

30:28>> Exactly. And that's why they got rid of Pitman to pay him all that money. I do believe there's a chance that even

30:33coming off the injury that he does have a lot more targets this year than he had last year. So obviously you moved him

30:39down because he he'd opted to have the surgery, but I don't want to like double triple count that if he's all of a

30:45sudden we're going to look at our rankings like oh he's he's practicing on August 19th. Uh they're not playing for another, you know, almost full month

30:52here and I'm ranking him after guys that have never come close to what Alec Pierce did last year.

30:56>> Yeah, maybe we can use the dreaded phrase baked in to his uh ADP. He finished last season as wide receiver 18

31:03in points per game and you know he's going as wide receiver 32 right now.

31:07Yeah, I'm ahead.

31:08>> Yeah, I mean like behind Marvin Harrison Jr. and you know Marv hasn't scored as high as Alec Pierce.

31:14>> Yeah. Yep.

31:16>> Okay, let's talk backfield splits.

31:19Travis Achan versus Alvin Chimera. Uh again, this is one of those interesting conversations that when the Saints spent so much money on Achan and we get

31:28through the draft and we're like, "Oh, he's just going to be the bellcow and expecting Alvin Camra to either go to Cancun or, you know, do something

31:36else." When in fact, he restructures his deal and he's back. Um here's a quote from, I believe, a beat writer that

31:44Achan's been working on the early downs with Alvin Chimera getting the first call on third downs and passing situations. So, a lot of fancy drafters

31:53would read that quote and be like, "Dang, that's scary." But, uh, I don't think you and I are as scared as other

31:59people reading that.

32:00>> No. First of all, not surprised. Alvin Chimera cannot play early downs. It's just like he's just not good enough to

32:04do that. If he's going to be on the team as a wide rece or as the running back, too, what would you do? You would throw

32:08him the ball a couple times. I also say this, Chimera's pass protection was a total disaster last year on top of

32:13things. So, um, not that Travis Day is like so good at that, but we both are going to bring up the same note.

32:20>> Yeah. Most running backs catch their passes in fantasy on first and second down. The third down rule is to pass

32:25protect and not let your quarterback get lit up. In a perfect world, you do the CMC thing where you never come off the

32:30field. You catch passes on every single down. There's like two or three of those every season. And then most of the time,

32:36the entire like back end uh of RB1's, your Josh Jacob tier, and then your upside RB2s, they're in this role where

32:44you get all the touches in the first and second down. You're going to get the goal line roll. you catch some passes on

32:49first and second down and then somebody else uh mixes in. That's what happened last year with Travis Aan when he finishes the RB11 on RB14 usage. Did not

32:57play any pass down work because they had Liquin Allen still caught plenty of his enough passes to pay off this ADP. So

33:04yes, you're not going to have CMC. I'm okay with that.

33:07>> Yeah, if I was to ask you the audience how many of Travis Achan's 36 receptions came on third down last year, I

33:13guarantee you all of you would get it incorrect. Um he had one third down reception last year on third or fourth

33:20down.

33:21>> He had 35 of them were on first and second down.

33:23>> Yeah. I mean you have to be competent enough to catch the occasional screen, the occasional checkdown. He's good enough at doing that. That gets you 30

33:3340 receptions in a season. Not to mention this is the fastest pace offense in the NFL. Uh Alvin Kimera can go

33:39straight to wasteland. There's nobody really behind him. So like there's still that opportunity. Uh, and uh, the offensive line I think is just way

33:46better than he's ever dealt with. So, I'm still breaking ties in favor of him.

33:50I understand why narratively his ADP is going to drop. I think him versus Scaboo is like an actually interesting conversation, but in terms of like

33:58projected half PPR points even with all those wide receivers that we like, who's more likely to score more fantasy points this year, it's it is still those two

34:05guys.

34:05>> Offensive line was the point I was going to bring up. I mean, you have Kelvin Banks, you have Eric McCoy, and you have

34:10Huanga. nice core and then you brought in David Edwards from the Buffalo Bills at left guard and then hopefully you can

34:17just like figure out the right guard spot between >> Cesar Ruiz and Jeremiah Wright who was a fourth round pick this year and just

34:24just fill that spot in. He is going in an interesting area though as you said with the running backs because I think

34:30all of us are going to rank Bree Hall higher than Travis Achan but at least on Yahoo Cam Scaboo is going one spot

34:36earlier and there's a big gap between that Swift Bucky Quinn David Montgomery territory.

34:43>> I I still like that tier of running backs and you know it's like the dead zone.

34:46>> I love this tier of wide receivers is my issue. That that's my big thing is I can't get over this tier of wide

34:50receivers. They just catch my eye more than Travisia. Yeah, I gotta be honest.

34:56Yeah, I get it. I'm still interested here. I think I just let the board fall to you.

35:00>> Should we talk some rookies, >> please?

35:03>> Okay. Jeremiah Love, we'll start there since he was the third overall pick in this past draft through eight days of

35:10camp. So, this is a few days ago.

35:11According to Josh Weinfuss of ESPN, Tyler Algier was quote getting the majority of the carries with the first team. Now, this is certainly one

35:22organization that you can get a heck of a lot of coach speak from, whether that be Mike Laflur or OC Nathaniel Hackett.

35:29Uh, both those men love to talk and they love to use phrases and coach speak and all that stuff. Um, just overall, where

35:37you at right now with Jeremiah Love, all things considered, team point totals, glut of running backs, and him going as

35:46the 26th overall player right now.

35:49>> Little nervous, but not going to double, triple count all of this stuff. There has been a history of backs that we

35:56absolutely love not paying off ADPs at this cost as rookies because other players get in the way. Um, and still I'm not going to completely bury him. I

36:07have him 30th overall. I think that in the back half of the round three that is an extremely enticing pick to make. I

36:15feel better about the Malik Neighbors type of players ahead of Jeremiah Love.

36:19Uh, pick your favorite wide receiver. I think Bree Hall I would rather have than Jeremiah Love at this point, but it's

36:26close. I am taking them serious that they do like Tyler Algier. And I think one of the scarier parts of the

36:31situation is aside from the offensive line, aside from their dead lasted projected points, they do keep naming James Conor. Like you this

36:41>> can't it's it's not just James Connor.

36:44>> Yeah, but like I was expecting this to just be Al Jer and Jeremiah and then like thanks for for the memories James

36:49Connor. It's like, oh, James going to have a role. He's been a very strong player for us. Maybe he gets involved in

36:55the goal line. I think that's like the one thing. It's like Jeremiah is not much bigger than Alier and James Connor.

37:01In fact, he's smaller. So, like we need the goal line touches to make up for this. So, there's a there's a chance

37:07where he like is, you know, the RB12 in the back half of the year and he was the RB20 in the first part of the year. And

37:13I think that's an interesting profile, but uh it's definitely a tear down from the round two running backs. Hopefully I can frame this in the right way, but let

37:20me ask you this question. Okay, if we just talked about Jeremiah Love, who granted is a heck of an individual talent, one that we compared the running

37:28style to Reggie Bush, just electric, but he's in a multi-person backfield on the lowest projected offense in the NFL at

37:3818.4 points. Why are we taking him ahead of Kairen Williams, who is also in a split backfield, but one that is

37:47projected to score the most points in the NFL, who was fifth in the league in carries inside of the 10 last year?

37:55Like, if we're getting split backfields between the two, wouldn't the tiebreaker somewhat be who and which team is going to score more touchdowns and more

38:04points? And isn't that just so obviously the Rams over the Cardinals? I think that this is like the difference between like median outcomes and then versus the

38:13high-end outcomes where there there's some high-end outcome where like Jeremiah Love is so unbelievable in ways that Kairen Williams could never even

38:20dream of being that that just makes up for it. And at the same time like I do think that your median baseline case

38:25like is is very much up for up for debate. Like the Javvante Williams uh Josh Jacobs if Josh Jacobs doesn't get

38:31suspended, Javvante Williams is doesn't have to have the the third down role necessarily. those offenses are gonna score like double the amount of points

38:38as the the Dang Cardinals here. Uh and we know they're going to be at the goal line where Jeremiah Love I think is not

38:44going to get all the goal line opportunities in that offense. So like right >> I think that you can say blindly

38:49Jeremiah Love this is the next Junior Gibbs let's party. He's the next Bejon Robinson. Then you go look at their rookie seasons like it was probably not

38:58at the same degree as like the the 26th overall pick. So, I'm getting a little bit spooked and then if you allow me to

39:04take him at 34th overall, I'll be very excited.

39:06>> Yeah. The high-end outcome is this and it's when Mike Laflur had Bree Hall during his rookie season when he was a

39:12running back seven in points per game and that was even with a slow start of getting 12, eight and 14 touches until

39:19he became the hot hand and carried the back field from there. Now, that was, you know, with Michael Carter sharing the work versus Tyler Algier and James

39:27Connor. But uh yeah, I mean Bruce was electric that year and they did a bunch of pony personnel stuff too if you

39:32remember.

39:33>> Um so yeah, that that would be the high-end outcome that Jeremiah Love just proves it and it might not be until week

39:38four, but once he does then he's getting 18 touches and is off to the races in a lot of situations, too.

39:43>> I see your ranking. Are you scared to compete? Are you going to say it out loud where you have Jeremiah Love right

39:47now?

39:48>> Um let me find where I have Jeremiah Love right now. Yeah, I have him as running back 16 at this moment. Yeah,

39:54I'm a little bit higher, but um we're both below market. That's fine.

39:58>> Yeah, like I have Josh Jacobs, Reese Hall, and Kyron Williams ahead of him right now, but uh you give me one

40:03sensational run the preseason and I'm all [laughter] the way back in. I am I am easy to please. That's for sure. Hey,

40:09I just got to be honest, man. I I am kind of terrified taking four Arizona Cardinals in the top 95 overall picks on

40:16the lowest projected offense in the NFL.

40:18That is not a crazy statement to make.

40:19>> I pretty much wrapped none of them, you know.

40:22>> [laughter] >> I feel good about it.

40:24>> There we are.

40:25>> I feel good about it.

40:27>> Okay, let's talk Mai Lemon, but almost via Dantavian Wixs. Okay, because the Eagles wide receiver 2 at this point has

40:38been and kind of their wide receiver one because everyone else is injured has been Dantavian Wix. Uh this is from Jimmy Kimky who has long time covered

40:46the Eagles through five practices. Wix pretty clearly looks like the second best receiver in camp. Now, you know, Mai Lemon currently dealing

40:55with the hamstring issue, as is Devonte Smith, but I was hoping Mai Limon, because he has the skills to do it,

41:02would hit the ground running. Um, if he's not out there kind of proving it and solidifying his status, then that leaves me some uncertainty of how much

41:12volume is the second wide receiver going to get with the Eagles. So my Mai Liman ranking heading into the season right

41:18now is like very much in flux.

41:20>> This is where price tags matter on Yahoo. He's the 100th overall player. I would draft him there.

41:25>> And at the same time, this is where you get a little bit nerve-wracking in that Mai Lemon is mostly a slot player.

41:33That's how he was at USC. I think he'd be a slot plus. Absolutely. But this uh Eagles offense will use multiple tight

41:40ends a lot and they might even do some multiple running back stuff on occasion as well where and there's not enough

41:46pass volume in general because of the Jaylen Herz stuff and what they do at the goal line. They're not throwing the

41:50ball inside the red area. So, you have to be in two wide receiver sets. If you are not in two wide receiver sets, you

41:55should not be on a fantasy team uh with in this Eagles on this Eagles team. And that's where the Mai Lemon stuff where

42:00it's it's not just this hamstring injury. It's like the same hamstring injury that he's had throughout the off seasonason where they kind of been

42:06easing him in. And Dantavian Wix is like one of these players where like you don't trust him, but he flashes enough

42:11and he is big.

42:12>> The highs are high >> early in the season. I think my baseline case is that like Dantavian's actually going to be out there in two wide

42:18receiver sets. It does not mean I'm taking Dantavian Wixs in most reddraft leagues. He's absolutely clickable in baseball and I'm starting to do that

42:24plenty. Um, and I think that Mai Lemon's going to have to earn this and he might be like a back half of the year player.

42:30Uh, not writing him off. I think still a fun bench stash, but he is being priced like around wide receiver 36 in the best

42:36ball streets and stuff. I think that the baseline case is pretty nerve-wracking at that price tag. Yahoo. It's much cheaper.

42:44>> I think I had Mai Lim as wide receiver 39ish and now I've moved him closer to wide receiver 48. Maybe that's a bit of

42:51an overreaction, but it's just all these other names that are are popping and and playing right now where it's, you know,

42:58both Packers wide receivers and Reed and Golden or Casey Conpsion and we talk about Jacobe Myers and look, if we get

43:04Mai Lemon back in practice in a week, then I'm going to move that up. But just how it is right now, it's it's it's a

43:09bit rich uh at at this moment. So, I'm I'm kind of wondering though, at the same time, we know how long these

43:18seasons are and could Mai Lemon have like a Luther Burtonesque rookie season where, you know, he barely plays for five weeks and then

43:28>> flashes real moments and as the season goes along makes some real poppy plays despite not being, you know, an 80% snap

43:37player. And I I think that's definitely in the range of outcomes. I I love Mai Lemon as a prospect. Uh I I would love

43:41him even more if he was practicing >> playing and then it's just like one of these offenses where the floor you have

43:46to like you have to get on the field at the right exact times because inside the 10 yard line they just never pass the

43:51ball. So like you have to be out there getting peppered with targets and be really efficient on them to overcome the

43:56lack of touchdowns that you're going to get aside from the long bombs that we got with AJ Brown and and Smitty. So it

44:02just there's definitely an upside case here but you you start to get a little bit nervous about like what the baseline

44:08is. Okay, let's talk Browns wide receivers because they took two in the top 40 overall picks. According to Zack Jackson, who covers the team is at

44:16practice every day. Casey Conpion and Denzel Boston are already miles galaxies better than any of the other wide receivers. Shout out Ian Hardit and uh

44:27his Jerry Judy backs. Um look, Casey's going wide receiver 52. I have him as wide receiver 45. And I actually have

44:34Denzel Boston as a top 60 wide receiver at this moment. We know the quarterback situation is disastrous, but Hayden, we really liked both of these wide receiver

44:42prospects.

44:43>> Yeah, I had both of them as round one guys. I had Casey Conpion as like a top 15 overall prospect. I think that

44:49Conpsion is more fantasy friendly and that he's going to get some manufacturer touches and could score 40 yard touchdowns because he's so dang

44:56explosive. Uh Denzel Boston is one of these guys where he's your ex- receiver.

45:00He's your red zone back shoulder guy where he could uh kind of steal some touches touchdowns away from Jerry Judy and Casey Conpsio and at the same time

45:08they're not going to score many of them.

45:09So I moved Denzel Boston up. I moved Jerry Judy down because there was that one point where you're like ah these are

45:15still rookies and Jerry Judy has been a thousand yard receiver and stuff. The fact that both of these rookies are flashing I do think makes the Jerry Judy

45:22stuff impossible. I think the only one that you should draft in reddraft leagues is Casey Conpsion and then I would have the other two uh as like

45:31waiver wire keep watching these guys who's standing out and there's a chance that Denzel Boston does play more snaps than Casey Conpsion because he's like

45:38the ex receiver of the team.

45:40>> Tough nut to thread though when your quarterbacks start Deshun Watson and Shador Sanderson >> bad.

45:44>> Yeah. Dylan Gabriel apparently is performing the best of the group but you know practice should be the time where Dylan Gabriel looks the best and that's

45:51his time to shine. So >> yeah. Yeah, I'm I'm trying not to get ahead of myself of loving the individual talents and I need to factor in the the

45:58quarterback situation that they're in with it too for sure.

46:00>> Yes, we do.

46:01>> Uh let's talk Chris Brazzle. He's out for the season to his LCL. Um this mainly impacts Tedro McMillan for me

46:09though in that the Panthers went into this offseason and one of the reasons why they drafted Chris Brazzle was for him to line up in isolated looks and

46:16have Tedro McMillan almost double his slot snaps this season. uh he was down at 15% last year. Their goal was to get

46:23him up to 30%. Uh out of the slot last season, he had 18 catches on 26 targets for 220 yards and and two touchdowns. Um

46:3314 of those 18 catches went for first downs, 12.2 uh yards per reception. And then he just had, you know, five

46:41touchdowns on 59 wide receptions last year and a much much worse catch rate.

46:47So, I I don't want to overcompensate here, but hey, we we always ask, hey, what can secondyear players what can they unlock in their second season? Um,

46:56I think that this was the plan for T-Mac and it's going to be dialed down to maybe what it was last year versus

47:02expanding it more.

47:03>> This is one where I think I disagree because I think that Brazil and Xavier Legette are to me, you throw them at X,

47:10they're not going to earn any targets, make them run fast in a straight line down the field. And like I don't think

47:15that we should have expected Chris Brazle to be way better than Xavier Legette. I think that to me is just like

47:19a tossup. Uh and to me I would just be like guess what now Xavier Legette you run straight down the sideline and never

47:26draw a target and we still use Tedro McMillan in a very special way like the Drake London way which was very helpful

47:32for the offense. I remember going back and watching him for one of our previous videos. There were so many third and

47:37fourth down situations that they got explosives where the only player that they were throwing the ball to was Tedoa. And on those plays, he would be

47:43in the slot. They would sometimes motion them, but even sometimes just like a pick play, big uh slot fade, a big out

47:50route. And he was awesome on those. I think that there's just no way you can go into the season without saying the

47:55condensed fueled stuff with Tedo McMillan, whether it's a slot or just uh the formation that you're using. It was way too effective. So I I think that

48:04Chris Brazzle, Xavier Legette, it's a wash to me. I'm I'm still it.

48:07>> Interesting. E Excel at X has been a nightmare, a disaster, and his best work has kind of been at Z. And I think that

48:14they know that, too. And for Brazwell, they did kind of just want him to line up and clear out and get downfield. So

48:20to me, there is a difference in their minds between the two.

48:22>> Yeah, that's fair enough. I would just be like, Xavier get you have been sacrificed. You are the exceiver. I don't care that you never draw a target.

48:28Who cares? Let's quickly talk about Jonathan Brooks because we've said this quote before from Cameron Wolf that quote, "If Jonathan Brooks is healthy,

48:35they have expectations of him potentially being the lead back over Chuba Hubard in this offense." That quote was prior to training camp. And

48:41what we've seen from Jonathan Brooks is that he's practicing in 11 on 11. He's been taking kick returns. He's not going

48:47to take kick returns in the NFL uh in games, but it just shows you how much participation he's been having. So

48:55Hayden, I know I have closed the gap significantly between Chuba Hubard and Jonathan Brooks and almost have them like backto-back in rankings now.

49:02>> Yeah, I'm very close in rankings. I think you will have to take Jonathan Brooks ahead of Chuba Hubard uh within

49:07the next week or so. Um that's in all formats. Um this is one where I would love to see him. You know, I it's great

49:15that he's healthy. I believe >> I don't know if he will in preseason. I don't know if he will.

49:18>> And that's and that's the hard part.

49:19It's like, okay, now you get into week one and then you're watching the first game, you're like amazing, there he is.

49:23or you'd be like, "Oh, that's Javante Williams coming back from injury, the the first year, the Broncos version, and like it never materializes." And then

49:32>> there's just been so many injuries for for Carolina that you just like start to worry. Like you just look at the

49:36starting lineups on both sides of the ball and you just get a little bit worried that there's just not going to

49:41be enough fantasy points from the running back positions if it's a close to an even split, which I think is my

49:46baseline assumption where Brooks has more receptions, Chuba has more carries, uh, unless one's way better than the other. And I think that just comes down

49:54to not Chuba. I know what Chuba is. It's just is Jonathan Brooks that guy or is he a different version of of himself

50:01coming off injuries.

50:02>> Yeah. Brooks is running back 31 and he's running back 36 on Yahoo. So I think there's some value there on Yahoo right

50:07now. Uh let's talk Cyrus Allen and the Kansas City Chiefs because Cyrus Allen to open camp was ripping it up and then

50:13he got carded off with a shin injury which seemed to be the best possible outcome for him and he should return

50:19this week. Uh, our buddy Sam Sherman posted one of the great tweets of training camp so far that said, "In July, Chiefs day three rookie is making

50:30plays in camp. In August, Chiefs day three rookie is getting snapped to the first team. And then September 10th, NFL season starts. Chiefs day three rookie

50:38has been reassigned to the Amps Oblast Penal Colony in Southwest Siberia." And I just off the top of my head thought

50:45about some Chiefs that made noise during training camp. And if you have any of these other names, let me know. Carson

50:50Steel, Justin Ross, Jaylen Royals, Bashard Smith, Daeneric Prince. So hopefully Cyrus Allen does not add to that list.

50:58>> I would say the big difference though, Cyrus Allen, if he can beat man coverage like like Matt Harmon says he can, like

51:04I would be open to that. Just the desperation. I was listening to the Chiefs coverage and it was uh my guy

51:10Schwarz and the ESPN reporter who's been there for a very very long time and they were just going through Chief's training

51:16camp and they were just laughing at how injured they are and like how like it's just not looking good aside from

51:21Mahomes. Mahomes like seems like to be on pace but Xavier Worthy, he can't survive uh contact. He has the same shoulder injury. The Rasheed Rice stuff

51:31obviously we watch what that was. Uh he's got some time to scale up. It still makes me nervous that, you know, maybe

51:37his uh rehab in jail wasn't as clean as it >> kind of rehapping on the fly in training camp practices versus, you know,

51:44everyone else probably would have reported early. Uh, and he was in jail at that time.

51:48>> Yeah. And I think just watching Rasheed Rice, he has to be a demon after the catch underneath because that's like

51:54what he's good at. The rest of the game is like not good for Rashid uh Rashid Rice. If he's not good at that explosive

51:59part, then it's like what exactly do you do here? So, I'm struggling with these Chiefs. It's even on the other side of

52:04the ball, manor de lane's in a non-cont uh uniform and they said that that's going to be the case for weeks. Like all

52:11of a sudden just like this I feel a little bit nervous about the Chiefs.

52:14Maybe they're more of a 500 team this year where I just like it's going to be Kenneth Walker and then I think all

52:19these guys it's like >> I'm not sure how much I want to draft any of them. I've been doing Xavier Worthy the highest just because uh I'm

52:26nervous about the Rasheed Rice stuff.

52:27>> Yeah, Rasheed finally returned to 11 on 111 today. So maybe they are ramp ramping him up. I'm still well ahead of

52:32market on him, but uh there's time for me to change that. Let's put it that way.

52:36>> He's one of our our biggest disagreements. You have him as 22nd. I have him 44. Well, I'm not saying if I'm

52:43right or you're right. I think it's it's very like it should be one of us should be high on him and one of us should be

52:48way way down on him.

52:49>> Yeah. My thing is when he has played on the field, he has finished much higher than 44. So unless like his knee is

52:56completely shot, which it really might be, then uh I'm leaning more towards what he has shown us previously, especially with, >> you know, all the questions among all

53:04the other pass catchers at this point.

53:06>> Caleb Douglas and the Miami Dolphins.

53:09Yes, you know, Chris Bell got a bunch of love. Whoever else we're going to bring up among wide receivers are also on the

53:15roster. But apparently Caleb Douglas looks the best among all Dolphins wide receivers at this point. Quote, "There's a healthy buzz around Caleb Douglas. Uh

53:24he should be a factor on slant routes and plays over the middle. Chris Bell has first round talent. The Dolphins can't wait to get him on the field. They

53:31don't want to rush his recovery from a December ACL tear. He is getting closer though. So Hayden at any point this

53:37season is Caleb Doug's going to be relevant to us.

53:40>> In the Siko Leagues, he should be on people's radar. Um I I have him draftable in best ball. Uh the other

53:46Chris Bell uh nugget is he's a ways away and you can tell that he's just he's running with a little bit of a a a gate

53:52uh kind of wonkiness. Yeah, it's just it just doesn't look right. He's still so explosive and stuff. You're like, "Wow, even in a straight line while he's got

53:59that little uh giddy up to him, it's like >> I just think that it's just going to take a while." Caleb Douglas was drafted

54:05ahead. Uh you know, we we've seen round three wide receivers just like get on the field and like, "Oh, there's a

54:10that's a fine enough player, better than I thought he was going to be." Um and there's no competition here. So, I think

54:15waiver wire material, I can't wait to see him in the preseason.

54:18>> Jacobe Lane uh was the first wide receiver selected by the Baltimore Ravens uh other than Elijah Serat. You really can't get more opposite of these

54:26two players, I think, in some ways. Uh but Jacob Lane, your guy from USC, has quote become the star of Ravens training

54:35camp and is the early favorite for the number three job behind Zay Flowers and Rashad Baitman. So, first Hayden, how excited should we get about the third

54:43wide receiver on this team? Uh, and second, does this also surprise you or shock you? Because, you know, Jacobe Lane's best 10 catches might have been

54:51the best 10 catches of any wide receiver prospect in this class.

54:55>> He dunked on everybody in college. And as a reminder, he was actually consensus ranked ahead of Mai Lemon before the the last season. Jacobe

55:03Lane is an interesting guy. Uh, he's not very fast. He runs really slow and I never understood if he's doing that

55:11purposefully and he's like trying to like finesse guys or if he just like has no juice. We'll see about that. Um not

55:16too surprising in reddraft the Ravens wide receiver three means zero. In best there's a chance you can kind of tick him uh on the back of your lineups.

55:25Rashad Baitman I think is definitely the clear favorite to to number two stuff, but there's a chance that uh Leane or

55:31Serat could could flip him. Um yeah, I thought Jacob Lane was better than people thought. Um, >> you know, Lamar hasn't really had that

55:37type of a player. Um, this downfield sideline ball winner.

55:42>> So, maybe that's an area that they can stress a bit more often in like second and 12, third and nine. Everyone's

55:49covered. Let's throw it up to Jacobe Lane. But, uh, I like that.

55:52>> I would love to see him in preseason action. That's for sure. Who we won't see be seeing is, uh, Kenyan Sadi.

55:57Suffered a setback after hernia surgery in May. The Jets first round tight end pick. uh their head coach said quote very confident he will be back by week

56:08one but Hayden this is not the type of player that you want missing the vast majority of his rookie training camp

56:14>> I don't like weapon tight ends uh I thought that he needs some development I think that he was like his route running

56:20I thought was pretty weak uh for how explosive he was and if he's not going to be super a super athlete coming off

56:26this injury that has me a little bit nervous and I think more important to that is you know you have to get

56:30integrated into the offense if he he hasn't been out there for a long time.

56:34So, and then his competition is a second rounder who can kind of do a little bit of everything. So, uh he's undraftable.

56:42I hope that he's a waiverwire target the second half of the season, makes some explosives. He does seem like the type

56:46of player where it's going to be impossible to know when he rips off his 35 yard reception. Um but I'm just not

56:52sure if there's a pathway to play time.

56:54Yeah, I have some concern that Frank Reich's going to be able to build his offense around a firstear tight end and

57:01incorporate him when he can't even incorporate him in practice. Yeah, >> I don't know if Frank Reich has that ability at this time. All right, let's

57:08get back to veterans. We already talked about Daniel Jones. So, next on my list is Mike McDonald talking about our guy

57:13Rasheed Shahed. Quote, again, a challenge of this camp is how far can we take it? How far can we take that

57:20relationship between Rasheed Shahed and Sam Darnold? how far can we take his route tree, how great of timing can we create with those two? You and I have

57:29spoken at length that after the trade, uh, he just really wasn't incorporated into the offense in terms of consistency, but they gave him a nice

57:36deal that was basically the same contract that K9 got with the Kansas City Chiefs. And what's standing in his way in two wide receiver sets is Cooper

57:45Cup. like we could look back on this draft season and say to ourselves that Rashid Shahed was one of the best value

57:52picks on the board.

57:53>> I like when I'm looking at my sleepers list and it's like a clear number two wide receiver on a team and just

58:00something has to break his way for for him to get more involved in the offense, whether the defense is worse, the pass

58:05game is better than we thought, the number one wide receiver goes down. I think he's going to finish second in targets on this team. He's going to be

58:11in the Ricky Paw role. Just looking at the Shanahan tree, that's the offense that they're going to be running. Uh the

58:17new OC comes literally from um uh the 49ers from last year. And I think that Pawall, his best stuff was like these

58:24big out routes, big crossing routes like way down the field. Uh and that's what Rasheed Shahed's so good. I think that

58:30Shahed's far shiftier than Ricky Paw underneath. Uh so there's a chance that they get that more involved, but um going to be difficult to predict the

58:38involvement on a week-by-eek basis. I like him in baseball and if something does happen to JSN, I think that Shahed's good enough on tape to be an

58:46every week uh wide receiver uh in starting lineup. So, I do think that he's very draftable in all formats.

58:51>> He's in this interesting area like I have him ahead of Xavier Worthy at this point. I feel comfortable with that.

58:56>> Okay.

58:56>> But it's wide receiver twos and threes out there and Jacobe Myers, Michael Wilson, Mai Lemon, Deshawn Stribbling, Jaylen Coker, Jane Higgins, Juan Dale,

59:05and Rasheed Shahit. And >> yeah, >> I'm not exactly sure how to stack that group right now.

59:10>> Yeah, I I like Coker and Higgins maybe like volume ability more and Pitman's volume ability more. Same thing, Courtland Sutton. And then it gets down

59:18to, you know, do I need to see Jacobe Myers more targets to him versus I think the Rasheed Shahid's a lot more fun. So

59:25that's kind of where like the lineup.

59:26Same thing with like Khalil Shakir. Like I would rather just have more fun with Rasheed Shahed.

59:31>> We love Nick Underh Hill. He does a fantastic job covering the New Orleans Saints. He actually responded to your ADP board on Yahoo with one simple

59:41statement that Jawan Johnson is criminally low.

59:46>> Your read on that situation is what?

59:47>> Just listen to him. There's nothing.

59:49It's It's the best thing. I wish we had 3200 hills. Uh yes, >> I have him one spot ahead of Chig. I

59:55have him ahead of Hunter Henry, AJ Barner, Brentton Strange, Hawinson, Doulsich, Dalton Schultz, Gadston, all those guys. He's not going to win you

60:03league. He was what the tight end I think it was tight end uh 15 on tight end 13 usage last season tight end eight

60:12in targets obviously you add Jordan Tyson to this you're going to take some of that away from Jawan Johnson I think

60:18he's like the most likely to finish as a fantasy tight end too this year of all all that mix I can see downside cases on

60:24all these guys I think that Jawan Johnson's a good enough player and a good enough fast-paced offense where I think that he can be a a top 20 fantasy

60:32tight end >> and it's not just under Hill saying it's other reporters as well that he's been the standout of camp with the other new

60:38pieces kind of being integrated into this offense. You can see in the Yahoo board right now. I would simply take Jawan Johnson over Kenyan Sudik and

60:45David and Jooku pretty >> easy easily.

60:48>> All right, rapid fire to close this out.

60:49Hayden, uh you brought up some backups that might have some news or it's just that in their field is news and uh

60:56Marshon Lloyd tops that list.

60:57>> Marshon Lloyd's healthy. He's been balling and you never know with the Josh Jacobs stuff that's still under investigation. Uh Marshon Lloyd I think

61:05has a lot of promise as a player and I do think that he has Bellcow ability if something ever happens to Josh Jacobs.

61:12If you're listing backups who's most likely to get some starts this year, it would he would be high up on my list

61:17because Josh Jacobs has a chance to be suspended this year. Uh that would be like about sixish games typically. Um, and then you just have Josh Jacobs gets

61:25the ball 20 times per game and runs really hard and's older uh and had some injuries previous to uh to this year

61:33where I think even if he's not uh suspended, there's some injury risk with Josh Jacobs. So, I feel confident Marshall Lloyd is firmly the RB2 and I

61:43think he's actually a pretty good RB2 to the point where I think in 12 team leagues he should absolutely be drafted.

61:49Uh I I think I only have Tank Bsby as like for sure much better than Marshall Lloyd as like pure handcuffs. Uh but I

61:56think >> he's your second ranked handcuff across the league. A guy that has six carries in his NFL career entering his third

62:02season.

62:03>> Like him versus Pacheco. I'm not sure if PCO's actually I know Pacheco is not very good. I think there's a chance

62:07Marshall Lo could actually be good and the guy that's in front of him might get suspended. Like >> even if it's just a 25% chance that

62:14Jacobs misses time this year, uh I think that's a much higher uh odds than like just blindly taking a running back

62:20without suspension risk.

62:21>> Yeah, just for you people who don't know who Marshon Lloyd is, he was a third round pick by the Packers, had six

62:26carries during his rookie season and has been injured ever since. Behind Josh Jacobs, Emanuel Wilson is gone. He's on the Seattle Seahawks. Maybe he can

62:33somehow find himself back on the Packers based on if you read the Seahawks reports right now. That seems like somewhat of a possibility. Um, and if

62:40that's the case, and I think we might adjust the Marshon Lloyd takes just a little bit. Um, okay. How about the

62:46Cowboys backups? Because, uh, do they have one? Jaden Blue versus Malik Davis versus Phil Mafa. And what's the latest news?

62:53>> Uh, Jaden's apparently just like showing up and, you know, is not wearing crazy ass cleat and he's seems to be earning

63:00the trust of uh, the coaches a little bit more. He makes the most sense as purely as a Javvante Williams sidekick.

63:07I think that's kind of as far as I'll go with him. But, uh, I think he's draftable in full PPR, really deep

63:13leagues. Uh, just keeping my eye out on him because I do think if he didn't have the knucklehead concerns, I do think he

63:19would have probably been drafted higher uh, in in the pros and he would have got on the field more as a rookie. These

63:26guys, I we're we're talking about pure dart throws at this point, but I do find him interesting. him versus like you

63:32know Tai Spears and stuff. He's like at some point like I would rather just have the guy the Cowboys.

63:37>> I also think preseason actual games tells us so much about who the handcuff is for these running backs that >> a lot of my mindset might change with

63:48number of these running back twos over the next three weeks.

63:52>> Yep. Totally agree. Can't wait for those games. Man, >> did I miss anything? Did we cover it all?

63:56>> We probably missed something but that was enough I would say.

63:59>> Yeah. Let us know in the comments if if we forgot something. But guess what? Uh we're gonna have rankings updates and

64:03multiple of them starting August 17th when these preseason games roll around cuz uh he and I are going to watch every

64:09single one and relay everything that we saw. It's truly one of our favorite times of the year. So lock in, subscribe,

64:17join us here on the channel. Shout out to Mojo and we behind the scenes and you for watching. We'll talk to you in the

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