Underdog Fantasy Football - Josh & Hayden

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Aug 20, 2026
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Thu, August 20, 2026
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Amon-Ra St. BrownAudric EstimeBlake CorumBo NixBrian Thomas Jr.Brock PurdyChris RodriguezChristian WatsonCourtland SuttonD'Andre SwiftDalton SchultzDe'Zhaun StriblingGeorge KittleIsaiah Likely
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Amon-Ra St. Brown

PositiveProjection0:51

Amon-Ra St. Brown is a top-tier round one target, currently going 8th overall in Yahoo half-point PPR ADP. The case for him is built on his status as the WR4 in points per game after the Lions' play-caller change last season, his streak of 100+ catches in four consecutive years, and his league-leading 34 red zone targets last year. Additionally, the Lions' high-scoring offense, improved offensive line, and the fact that 12 of their 16 games are played indoors bolster his outlook.

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Audric Estime

PositiveSleeper68:23

Audric Estimé is a late-round running back target currently going in round 15, though his ADP is expected to climb. The source notes positive sentiment following glowing remarks from Davis Webb regarding the rookie's performance after his first preseason game.

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Blake Corum

NegativeProjection32:12

Blake Corum is used as a benchmark for late-round running back value, with the source suggesting that players like Jakori Merritt may offer more fantasy points per game if Corum does not secure a starting role.

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Bo Nix

PositiveProjection28:44

The source highlights Bo Nix as a player who looks good within a deep quarterback position group for the current fantasy season and notes he is a potential target in the ninth round of home leagues.

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Brian Thomas Jr.

NegativeValue21:58

Brian Thomas Jr. is currently being drafted back-to-back with Parker Washington on Yahoo, serving as a benchmark for the current fantasy landscape at that ADP.

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Brock Purdy

PositiveValue28:13

The source identifies Brock Purdy as a favorite round nine quarterback target, noting his ability to finish as a top-five or six fantasy quarterback. Despite being drafted around QB12, Purdy led the league with a 61% completion rate on throws of 10+ yards and finished as the QB5 in points per game last year despite injuries. His efficiency and role in Kyle Shanahan's system provide significant upside.

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Chris Rodriguez

PositiveSleeper30:42

Chris Rodriguez Jr. is identified as a high-upside sleeper. He led his backfield in touches and scrimmage yards as a rookie and is expected to benefit from the Commanders' focus on outside zone schemes, where he averaged 7.6 yards per carry. Beat writers report he is improving as a pass-catcher, making him a strong post-hype target.

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Christian Watson

PositiveBreakout20:24

Christian Watson is a favorite pick for the source, who ranks him 46th overall despite his 58th overall ADP. In 13 career games with at least 75% route share, he averaged 17.5 fantasy points per game (WR6 pace). He is locked into two-WR sets and expected to grow as a go-to player on third downs and outside routes, though the source also mentions a preference for Matthew Golden's current momentum.

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Courtland Sutton

NegativeUsage15:41

The source uses Courtland Sutton as a statistical benchmark for route volume, noting that the Broncos' offense, which ranked fifth in plays per game, provided Sutton with 220 more routes than Jaylen Waddle received last season.

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D'Andre Swift

PositiveSleeper28:56

The source suggests D'Andre Swift is an undervalued player who does not receive enough attention as a potential late-round dart throw.

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Dalton Schultz

PositiveSleeper26:24

The source identifies Dalton Schultz as a potential streaming tight end option capable of filling in as a starter for fantasy managers for a few weeks.

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De'Zhaun Stribling

PositiveSleeper33:06

Deshawn Stribling is a high-priority sleeper target ranked 82nd overall. While his ADP is in the 12th round, the source recommends drafting him in the 9th or 10th round due to rave training camp reviews, consistent usage, and his role in a high-scoring offense alongside Mike Evans and Deebo Samuel. He is considered a target once players like Quentin Johnston or Michael Wilson begin coming off the board.

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George Kittle

PositiveValue24:10

George Kittle is a value target in the eighth round (ADP 78th overall), with the source ranking him as the TE7 despite his current ADP as the TE9. He is highlighted for his 33% team-high endzone target share when playing with Brock Purdy and his elite efficiency, ranking third among tight ends in both yards per route run (2.18) and fantasy points per route run last year.

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Isaiah Likely

PositiveValue30:16

The source suggests that Isaiah Likely is a better draft value than Joe Burrow in current expert mock draft environments.

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Jadarian Price

PositiveBreakout13:34

The source identifies Jadarian Price as a high-upside rookie running back who is currently undervalued, noting he is being drafted between the fifth and sixth rounds. The source argues that Price could see significant usage due to Zach Charbonnet's recovery from a late-season surgery, expressing skepticism that Charbonnet will return to his previous form. Additionally, the source highlights Price's pass-game usage observed on Hard Knocks, which contrasts with his limited college production, and notes that the new offensive coordinator's scheme—influenced by the Christian McCaffrey offense—prioritizes getting five players out in routes, potentially increasing reception opportunities for Price.

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Jakobi Meyers

NegativeUsage22:20

Jakobi Meyers is noted as having been on the field alongside Parker Washington and Brian Thomas Jr. during the period where Washington established his high target share.

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Jalen Hurts

NegativeValue28:13

The source notes that Jalen Hurts is a target if he falls to the sixth or seventh round in drafts, though generally advises prioritizing flex-eligible positions in the first six rounds.

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Jameson Williams

NegativeInjury3:26

Jameson Williams is noted as being among the Lions players currently dealing with injury concerns, though no specific details on his status were provided in this segment.

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Jared Goff

NegativeProjection29:13

Jared Goff is noted for his consistency, having ranked second in passing yards for three consecutive seasons.

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Jaylen Waddle

PositiveBreakout15:04

The source identifies Jaylen Waddle as a smash selection in round four with league-winning upside. Despite playing in an offense that was 31st in plays per game last year, he was the WR18 in points per game from weeks 1-16. He is now moving to an offense that ranks fifth in plays per game, which could lead to a significant increase in route volume. He also ranked eighth in first downs per route run last year, a metric the source considers sticky for predicting breakout seasons. Additionally, the source notes Waddle recently burned Patrick Surtain II for a 60-yard touchdown in practice, signaling his readiness.

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Jeremiyah Love

NegativeInjury20:47

Jeremiah Love is identified as one of the rookies who has suffered an injury, contributing to the overall lack of hype surrounding the rookie class this year.

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Joe Burrow

NegativeValue29:58

The source expresses frustration with expert mock drafts where Joe Burrow is falling to the 10th round, suggesting this valuation is unrealistic compared to home league expectations.

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Jordyn Tyson

NegativeInjury20:44

The source mentions Jordan Tyson as one of the rookies who has suffered an injury, contributing to the overall lack of hype surrounding the rookie class this year.

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Josh Allen

NegativeValue29:50

The source highlights a significant ADP discrepancy for Josh Allen, noting he is a second-round pick in home leagues but often falls to the sixth round in expert drafts.

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Juwan Johnson

PositiveValue26:09

Juwan Johnson is a major value as the TE20 in the 13th round, with the source ranking him as the TE12. He is expected to be a primary pass-catcher for the Saints with Rashid Shaheed sidelined, benefiting from a fast-paced offense and a dome environment. He previously performed as a top-8 tight end in receptions per game from week 10 onwards last season.

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Keaton Mitchell

PositiveUsage60:23

Keaton Mitchell is a high-upside 13th-round target who offers standalone value rather than just being a handcuff. He is projected for a consistent package of 5-8 touches per game, with his role compared to the explosive, big-play usage of De'Von Achane in Mike McDaniel's offense. He is already seeing downfield routes in camp and serves as a viable flex option during bye weeks, even if he does not overtake Derrick Henry or Justice Hill.

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Kenneth Walker III

PositiveBreakout5:09

Kenneth Walker III is a favorite round two pick, ranked 13th overall despite a consensus ADP of 21st. He addresses the Seahawks' lack of explosive plays, ranking 6th in both 15+ yard rushes and avoided tackle rate on early downs last year. He is expected to play a high volume of snaps, with the source noting he averages 17.5 points in games where he reaches a 60% snap share. The source projects he will hit that 60% threshold consistently this season while benefiting from an improved offensive line and potential screen game usage. The team's backfield usage is expected to be less rigid than last year's split with Zach Charbonnet.

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Luther Burden

PositiveValue16:34

The source advocates for drafting Luther Burden in the fifth round, rejecting the narrative that he is being drafted at his ceiling. The source argues that if Burden emerges as the primary pass catcher for the Chicago Bears, he has the potential to significantly outperform his current draft position as a mid-range wide receiver, easily exceeding a WR24 finish.

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Malik Heath

PositiveUsage32:02

Malik Heath is highlighted as a player to target due to the consolidation of routes in the Packers' offense; he played eight of nine snaps in the first preseason game and is expected to benefit from increased route participation.

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Malik Nabers

PositiveBreakout9:02

Malik Nabers is a third-round target, ranked 22nd overall, higher than his consensus rank of 28th. His production is expected to be funneled through the Giants' heavy personnel sets, similar to how Jackson Smith-Njigba saw production spikes in heavy looks last year. Despite minor injury concerns regarding full-contact drills, he is on track for Week 1 and viewed as a potential round one/two value by season's end.

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Malik Willis

PositiveSleeper35:24

The source expresses a strong preference for drafting Malik Willis in the 11th round as a late-round target.

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Matthew Golden

PositiveSleeper20:32

The source highly recommends Matthew Golden as a late-round target, citing strong training camp reports, his status as a full-time player, and elite athleticism (4.29 40-yard dash). Golden is expected to benefit from the Packers' shift toward more routes, drop-backs, and increased snap counts as the team moves away from their previous wide receiver rotation. The source notes they would draft Golden ahead of Christian Watson.

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Michael Wilson

NegativeValue34:38

The source uses Michael Wilson's ADP as a trigger point to queue and draft Deshawn Stribling, placing them in a similar tier of receiver prospects.

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Najee Harris

NegativeInjury13:57

The source reports that Najee Harris is not yet participating in full-contact drills, but team reporters are monitoring his progress as he is slowly ramped up with new drills each week; the expectation remains that he will be ready for Week 1.

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Parker Washington

PositiveBreakout21:50

Parker Washington is a high-upside target with an ADP of 78th overall, though the source ranks him 55th. When on the field with other receivers last year, he led the team with a 31% target share and 3.17 yards per route run. He plays roughly 63% of his snaps in the slot, fitting the intermediate role favored by offensive coordinator Liam Cohen.

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Patrick Mahomes

NegativeValue28:44

The source lists Patrick Mahomes as a potential quarterback target available in the ninth round of home leagues.

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Quentin Johnston

NegativeValue34:31

The source uses Quentin Johnston's ADP as a trigger point to queue and draft Deshawn Stribling, placing them in a similar tier of receiver prospects.

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Sam LaPorta

NegativeInjury2:32

Sam LaPorta is dealing with a hip injury that could potentially linger into the season. While the source notes that fantasy football physios suggest it is likely a contusion rather than a pull, the injury status is being monitored closely for his availability in upcoming preseason weeks.

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Saquon Barkley

PositiveValue5:01

Saquon Barkley's ADP has risen significantly to 11th overall on Yahoo, a move the source attributes to their own successful analysis and promotion of the player earlier in the draft season.

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Travis Hunter

PositiveValue30:22

The source indicates a preference for drafting Travis Hunter over Joe Burrow, highlighting the extreme nature of current expert draft valuations.

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Zach Charbonnet

NegativeInjury13:33

The source expresses significant doubt regarding Zach Charbonnet's ability to return to his previous form following a surgery that occurred on February 20th. The source argues that the Seahawks' backfield usage will likely be less rigid than last year, when Charbonnet stole 65% of the team's carries inside the 10-yard line, and suggests that Jadarian Price could see massive games while Charbonnet is sidelined or recovering.

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Episode Transcript

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0:00All right, I'm on the hot seat. The 14 players I am betting my entire fantasy football season on. Basically, my favorite pick in every single round.
0:09Hayden, your version of this is already up on the channel. We have a couple of overlapping ones, but I hope I'm
0:15surprising with a few names here. Uh because you have no idea what I'm about to throw at you.
0:19>> Yeah, I asked to not know. I want to be fully surprised here. Um but it's not just this season. It's your entire
0:24reputation for years and years to come.
0:27My Yahoo contract actually ends on uh Friday, August 21st, depending on if this list goes well or not.
0:34>> Yep. Yep. Do you want the bonus or not, Josh? Feed [laughter] your family.
0:38>> Okay. Well, since I am the the meat of this show in terms of giving you all the information, uh how about you host?
0:45Like, take me round by round here. How about that?
0:47>> All right. Let's let's get it over with.
0:48Uh round one, who's your number one target?
0:51>> I'm going to go with I'm on Raw State Brown. Uh we're going to use Yahoo's half point ADP for this. uh he's the
0:56eighth pick of the first round right now. This one is extremely simple. I mean, we're talking about the wide receiver four in points per game last
1:03season when they fired their play caller halfway through the year. Uh 100 plus catches in each of the last four years.
1:10Uh you know, he has 66 red zone targets over the last two seasons. The vast majority of touchdowns and especially passing touchdowns happen inside of the
1:19red zone. Uh and he led the NFL in that same exact area last year with 34 red zone targets. Uh, plus Hayden, you know,
1:25the environment is sensational with this offensive line that has been reworked and um just the consistency of how many points they put up. Plus, 12 of their 16
1:34games in the fantasy football season will be played in indoors. So, I feel fantastic about Aman Ross and Brown. I still have him ranked ahead of Jackson
1:40Smith and Jakeba.
1:41>> Yeah, this is the division that will have the most fantasy points and Aman Ross and Brown. It's three straight seasons with double digit touchdowns and
1:47115 uh plus receptions. That's that's pretty good. Uh we had some news today.
1:52Sam Laora dealing with some type of hip injury that could linger into the season. Like these are the type of ways
1:57that a Monro goes from like steady Eddie, you know, the wide receiver five in the season to like where he actually
2:03has a chance to go compete and be a league winning pick. So, did you have any reaction to either like J Mo his
2:08injury Laora is a little bit banged up?
2:11>> How about we talk about Leaporta more on Monday when we react to preseason week two? Um >> because I've been so pro Laaporta. He's
2:19not on this list, but pro Leaport of this draft season, uh, because the connection with Drew Ping and tight ends and all that type of stuff and Stfansky
2:25and North Turner before that, >> uh, immediately the fantasy football physios were in my mention saying, "Hey, hold up. Don't move him in rankings
2:33because this is probably more of a contusion than it is a poll or anything else." So, uh, it sounds like a
2:39contusion and maybe we're back next week here with Sam.
2:41>> Okay. I would say this is probably the most important question you're gonna have to answer this year. Who should you
2:46take in the second round? cuz it is loaded and there's a million running backs in the front, a million wide receivers in the back. They're all good
2:52at football, but one of these guys will actually be a league winner.
2:55>> By the way, apparently I'm very good at my job because, you know, once we started at Yahoo, uh Saquon Barkley was
3:02going in the second round. No longer, sir. No longer. He's going 11th overall now over on Yahoo. So, I did my job with
3:09that one. And I'm about to cry wolf once again because here comes Ken Walker the third as my favorite pick in round two.
3:18He's going with the fourth pick of the second round.
3:21>> I mean Hayden it's it's nuts if you look at consensus rankings out there.
3:25>> He's 21st overall in consensus rankings.
3:28>> I mean 13th overall for me. I know you have him even higher than that. 21st makes zero sense to me. And maybe it's
3:35people who were snake bitten last year not wanting him to, you know, move up in rankings this year. But when you think
3:41about it, okay, this is the one move that the Kansas City Chiefs made, a Kansas City Chiefs offense that has been
3:47highly efficient and successful in terms of success rate on the ground, yet they struggle to create explosives. I mean, they were 32nd basically in the league
3:56last year in 10 plus yard runs from the running back position. Here's a great stat from Ted Smith. Okay, only three
4:03rushes of 15 plus yards on early downs by running backs on the Chiefs last year. Uh, that was last in the league.
4:09And they're also fourth worst in avoided tackle rate by running backs on early downs. Ken Walker the third ranked sixth in both of those numbers. So he's going
4:18to play a lot of football. He's going to be on the field all the time and that was the only thing holding him back from
4:22a monster season last year with Seattle as we saw in the playoffs in the Super Bowl.
4:26>> When I was listening to the TV booth in preseason, real sicko stuff, they kept talking about how important the screen
4:31game is in this training camp. It's always important with the Andy Reid offense. like he's been one of the best screen callers in NFL history. It has
4:40not been that potent recently, but at one point there was guys like Shady McCoy, Jamal Charles, Brian Westbrook absolutely destroying in the screen
4:48game. Why can't Kenneth Walker be awesome as an underneath pass? He doesn't have to be a Mr. Route runner, but just to get these big athletic
4:55linemen in front of him and his razledazzle, like there's a reason why we both have him as our favorite pick in
5:00round two. I I think we both rank him as like a legit top 12 option. And the good news is you never actually have to draft
5:05him in in the first round.
5:06>> Yeah. Again, those numbers I just that was Ken Walker only playing about 60% of the snaps in one regular season game
5:14last year. If you want to incorporate that number in 60%. Ken Walker has averaged 17 and a half points in the 26
5:22games he has reached the 60% snap mark.
5:24Uh Hayden, I would be shocked if he doesn't hit 60% snaps in every single game this season.
5:30>> He's never um played with Patrick Mahomes. He's never played with an offensive line as good as this one. So, I'm feeling pretty optimistic. All
5:36right, round three. I think this is where we get a little bit more boom bust. There's some really fun names here. I'm very curious who you have in
5:42round three.
5:42>> Just because he goes so late on Yahoo and still in this round and a lot of other places, uh I'm going to take Malik
5:47Neighbors, the 10th pick of the third round. He has beaten the timeline from this injury that I had in mind. Uh, but
5:54just to put the injury aside to maybe a later conversation here, one thing I haven't brought up enough and we have
5:59done it with other wide receivers is actually the heavier personnel looks that the Giants are going to put out there is going to help Malik Neighbors
6:07even more. Right. So, Greg Roman and the Chargers and with Baltimore, they use a ton of these fullbacks and tight ends.
6:15Matt Naggie with the Chiefs was one of the biggest, heavier personnel sets in the league last year. Here with the Giants, we know you have Theo Johnson,
6:23Isaiah Likely, Chris Manhur, Patrick Ricard. When two or three of those guys are on the field, guess what? That means the ball in passing situations is
6:32funneled to the best pass catcher on the field. And just point blank, Malik Davis is head and shoulders away from everyone
6:38else. So that's exactly what happened with us, >> you know, with Jackson Smith and Jigba last year. I mean, um, 38% of his routes
6:46that had heavier personnel looks, that's where he got 51% of his production according to Ryan Heath. And so, this offense is one of those across the
6:54league that could, you know, filter that same exact pathway for Malik Neighbors to have a monster year on top of even
7:02when they're in three wide receiver looks, hey, he's uh pretty damn good, too.
7:04>> Yeah, the ball is just going to be completely funneled. I looked back July 3rd, 2021, I wrote a column card called
7:10yards per route runs major bias. And it was talking about two versus three wide receiver sets. In that, I'm looking at
7:16it now.
7:16>> Two wide receivers, the average yards per route run 2.3. With three wide receivers on the field, the average yards per route is at 1.6. Like the ball
7:24just gets funneled to these guys, especially when it's like Patrick Ricard's never gonna be out in the route. Chris Manners never gonna
7:29actually be out in the route. Um he's just gonna get funneled the rock uh the whole time. he made another uh
7:36improvement in camp where he's actually out in in real drills. Um so he's on pace to be a major part of the the
7:44offense in week one and I think that his tape will start to feel really good as we you know get to Thanksgiving towards
7:50the fantasy uh playoffs and I'd be pretty surprised if he's not like a round one two turn value once we get to
7:58the very end of the season.
7:59>> Yeah, I have him 22nd overall. So, uh, in the heart of round two, he's 28th overall in consensus rings out there. I
8:08I'm glad you just mentioned the injury update because right before the show I finished up with Greg Rosenthal over on NFL Daily,
8:15he's been listing these Giants beat writers and while I was optimistic about the injury, Greg was a little bit pessimistic and said like
8:23>> in these drills he has not had contact and that just started this week. Yes.
8:27>> Uh, yes. And so while he has technically been at practice, it hasn't really been gamelike situations, but uh it sounds
8:34like they're just slowly ramping him up in order to do that.
8:37>> Yes. Uh I've been listening to a lot of Giants reporters too, just because they got the Naji Harris, Cam Scab stuff, and
8:42they've mentioned the same thing. It's it's not full contact yet, but the fact that every single week they're introducing a new type of drill to him
8:48makes them still believe that he would be on pace for week one. And guess what?
8:51Even if he wasn't out there for week one, you could still pay off a round three ADP. All right, you copied my
8:56picks in rounds two and round three.
8:58Let's see if you're going to make it round four as well.
9:00>> I I don't think so. I should have gone back and looked at yours, but I don't think I'm doing it here. Did you pick
9:05Jaylen Waddle as well in round four?
9:07>> I did not, but I would love him.
9:09>> Yeah, this is the fourth pick of round four. There's literally an endless list that makes Jaylen Wadd a smash selection
9:16in round four here. I mean, over four yards per rat run on play action last season, and the Dolphins were not good
9:21last season. Uh, and the Broncos, you know, had the third most passes off of play action in the league. And if you
9:27just again look at the Dolphins not being good, Jaylen Wadd was still the wide receiver 18 in points per game from
9:33weeks one through 16 on offense that was 31st in plays per game. Now he goes to an offense that is fifth in plays per
9:41game. And that offense that is fifth in plays per game gave Courtland Sutton 220 more routes than Jaylen Wadd last year.
9:51220 more routes. So yes, maybe we should speak more Hayden about how he gets banged up and ends up in the blue tent a
9:58bit more often. That's fine. I'm hoping that it doesn't happen because if it doesn't happen and we get 17 games out
10:04of Jaylen Wadd, he's one of these players who is, you know, drafted as wide receiver 17 that when we talk about
10:10league winning upside, jumping from wide receiver 17 up to like the wide receiver seven in scoring, albeit that would be like a home run swing, but that is what
10:18league winners are made. It's not these small wins, it's big wins. And Jaylen W has big win potential this year.
10:23>> Yeah, I got him in round three. I love drafting him in the fourth round. Really just depends on who my top three picks
10:29were. If I need a wide receiver, he's been my favorite click. Him and Tedo McMillan would be my favorites. I have
10:33the same notes. It's just the routes are going to go up. This is like pretty similar to George Pickins where like we
10:38know he's good at football, but what if he's like actually the focal point of a a good play caller with a better
10:43quarterback and just better infrastructure and on top of that there's just more routes. Like that's how you can like really dream up a huge
10:50uh season from Jaylen Wadd. He was back at practice. He just burnt Patan for a 60-yard touchdown. I love Sardan's response. He's like it was a good play.
10:58Like these guys are they're so stubborn.
10:59They're so full of themselves that they can't even acknowledge uh how good Jaylen Wadd is. But if you're beating Patrick Stan in practice, I think that
11:05you're going to play in week one.
11:06>> Yeah. And one of our favorite underlying metrics to predict league winning seasons, uh Ryan Heath had the great column a couple years ago talking about
11:14uh first downs per route run. Uh and that is sticky from you know the season before to a league winning season.
11:21Jaylen Wadd was eighth in first downs per route run uh last year. Now I will say some of our colleagues and maybe
11:27even you I think are getting extremely aggressive on Jayen Wadd's ranking and it might not be necessary. Um Harmon has him 26th overall. Boon has him 29th
11:37overall. I have him 36th overall and I'm still able to get him on every single platformer.
11:41>> Yeah, we just want to be extra right when he pays off as [laughter] a a top 12 guy. Speaking of being extra right,
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12:20Uh, all right. Let's go on to round five. Who do you got?
12:22>> So, this is actually a six round pick because I might cheat a little bit later on. So, I'm making good early. Okay.
12:28>> And this is probably the name that's going to shock you the most, viewers, and probably you, Hayden, as well.
12:34>> I'm going to pick Jadarian Price here.
12:35Okay. He's going at the third pick of the sixth round. Um, it feels like there's really little hype around rookies this year just overall and that
12:44can be because of the injuries we've had to, you know, Jordan Tyson and Mai Lemon and now Jeremiah Love. Um, but the
12:52longer this process goes on during this August window, the more and more vocal I have been about Jadarian Price. And sure, I told you to draft the Seahawks
13:01backfield last year, but I think a lot of the focus on what the Seahawks backfield has been so far this off
13:07seasonason is, okay, how is Jerian Price and George Holani going to split this thing up? It's not going to be the same
13:13split as what K9 and Charbanet was last year where Ken Walker continuously got them inside the 10 yard line, inside the
13:2020 yard line, and then Zack Sharpet came in and literally stole 65% of the team's carries inside the 10 yard line and
13:28scored 10 times off of it. I think Jerian Price, for as long as Zack Charm is sideline, has a chance to have
13:35massive games, huge games. And despite there being amazing optimism for when Zack Char is going to return and what his recovery is, some say week one, week
13:45two, week three. Hey, and I gotta be honest, I will bet against him being the same player that he was last year coming
13:51off this massive injury. So, Jiren Price, 32nd pick in the NFL draft. What we have seen from Hard Knocks is his
13:59pass game usage that we can get to here in a minute despite him barely showing that at Notre Dame. Uh I just wonder if
14:05we are getting to a point where uh this is the rookie that has like real upside that is not getting enough attention
14:12right now.
14:12>> Yeah. First rounder that goes to the Super Bowl winning team. It doesn't make that much sense that there's not more
14:16buzz about him. I think it takes a lot of you know projection to get there because he was like in a very obvious
14:21like weird >> story with Jarian Price in order for him to have like a huge season here.
14:27>> Part of that story is just being realistic about the Zack Charmin stuff.
14:30I mean he he got injured really really late into the season into the playoffs.
14:33So, he didn't have his surgery until like actually this calendar year. So, he would be it' be a pretty aggressive timeline. And then the training camp
14:39reports and people that watch Hard Knocks, they're they're in favor of what he's been been able to do. I saw Hawk
14:45Blogger uh he said that the receiving game has really stood out in training camp. Maybe not the pass protection, but like the receiving game. And that's
14:53something that uh the new offensive coordinator, he's been stressing after learning from the Christian McCaffrey offense. Five guys out in the route
15:00where last year it'd be two guys out in the route. Uh, so like these little details about the the exact offense, you
15:07might get some more running back receptions this year versus in previous seasons, especially if you know the defense regresses a little bit. The
15:12offense isn't, you know, scoring 60 yard touchdowns every every drive. Uh, there might be a couple more receptions than I initially thought with Jarian Price.
15:20>> Yeah, I have him 50th overall, which is again very aggressive. He's he's going 63rd. He's 65th in consensus rankings right now. Yeah. Yeah, I mean he just
15:29had 15 catches at Notre Dame because, you know, he played a guy alongside a guy named uh Jeremiah Love.
15:34>> But again, we've seen it on Hard Knocks.
15:36Robert May talked to the coaching staff was at training camp practices along with all the beat riders that you're speaking about and says that Brian
15:43Flurry wants to get, you know, more pass catchers out there on the field.
15:46Engineering Price is just lighting it up with that stuff. Like Hayden, if you zoom out, is it really that much of a
15:53different story you have to tell versus Trivian Henderson who's going ahead of him? Bachel Tutin that's going ahead of him, Bucky Irving that's going ahead of
16:00him, and like those guys had real moments already in the league. But uh again, Jerryian Price is on the Super Bowl winning team with an offensive line
16:07that is fully returning here and one that again I highly doubt the backfield is going to be as rigid as it was last
16:16year with Ken Walker and Zack Sharpet as it is with Jerry Price and whoever else this year.
16:20>> Yep. Charbet February 20th is when his surgery happened. So I mean I be mean and rude and negative here, but I just
16:28highly doubt he's the same player that he was last year. Just quickly, by the way, >> yeah, >> Luther Burton is a fifth round pick and
16:35I'm >> predicting he's going to stay as a fifth round pick because of this injury. I still love Luther Burton in round five.
16:41And I actually Hayden don't get why it's kind of being termed that he's being drafted at a ceiling. Like that's not
16:48the case at all. You know, like Luther Burn, I'm not saying you're saying this, other people are that Yeah. If if Luther
16:53Burn has an awesome season and becomes the primary pass catcher for the Chicago Bears, he's not finishing as wide receiver 24. It's really that simple.
17:01>> No, of course not. Yeah, of course not.
17:03I did a show with Davis Mack. We were predicting first round for 2027. You you guys know Davis. Davis went full-blown.
17:09He said Luther Burden 12th overall or something [laughter] like that. So >> he's going to be on Brown, right?
17:14>> He literally you took a you took the words right from his mouth. The upside is it's obvious. It's just like the odds
17:19of him paying off. I I think where the Bears are right now, you know, if all these guys are fourth, fifth, sixth
17:24round picks, that offense can be potent enough where all those guys do get home.
17:28Like, we're not talking about first and second rounders, uh, I really like Roma Dunay, others like Luther Burden. I'm a fan of taking darts on any of these
17:36guys, including DeAndre Swift, who I I don't think it's mentioned enough, uh, but that's not the point of today's show. So, you have another sixrounder.
17:44Then you have Jadarian Price cheating getting into the fifth round. Who's your six?
17:47>> That's not cheating. That's not cheating. That is >> saving up for cheating in the future. I know what you're doing here.
17:52>> Exactly. [laughter] Exactly. Okay. My real sixrounder is Christian Watson.
17:56This is one of my favorite picks on the board this year. I mean, over 13 career games where he plays at least 75% of the
18:04route share on the field.
18:06>> Uh Christian Watson averages 17 and a half fantasy points per game. That's good for wide receiver six in that time
18:12span. Okay. Romeo Dobs was the only Packers wide receiver to run a route on 50% of dropbacks last year. He gone.
18:21He's no longer on this team. And they only have three wide receivers worth a damn now. And we also know that
18:27Christian Watson is locked into two wide receiver sets. So again, I understand that there's always always this injury sound in the back of your head
18:38when you see Christian Watson's name uh on the draft board. I will say we are trying to win our leagues and if
18:47Christian Watson stays healthy, this is the type that you're selecting him at wide receiver 28 that can easily finish as the wide receiver 18 or maybe even
18:55higher. Like again, the jumps. We don't care about drafting the wide receiver 35 that finishes the wide receiver 30. That doesn't do anything for you really. We
19:04want the massive leaps, the one that overperformed greatly where you selected them. And based on what we saw with Christian Watson last year and how even
19:12more condensed this wide receiver room is this year, he has a fantastic chance at doing that.
19:18>> Yeah, I love all the Green Bay Packers uh in fantasy. That includes love.
19:22Matthew Golden's been on my list. I think that's something that you've hit on is just consolidation of the routes really matters because he's never been
19:29in this the exact role that he has. He played on eight out of the nine snaps in the preseason week one as an example.
19:34Savon Williams is not a real wide receiver. Like this is a manufactured touch player. That's their wide receiver for like they don't actually have a wide
19:40receiver for on the team. And then something I noticed in the preseason matches up what they've been talking about in offseason reports. Uptempo.
19:46It's not like necessarily going to be no huddle offense, but get out of the snap or out of the huddle, get to the line of
19:51scrimmage, snap the ball quickly and go.
19:53I think that they're worried about the interior of their offensive line. Their left g uh left guard spot has apparently been a complete train wreck in practice
20:00and Aaron Banks is injured and whatnot.
20:01I think they're gonna pass the ball. I think they're gonna play with more pace and I think they're going to easily
20:05outpace what they did last year, which was 27th in pass attempts. I can see them being closer to about league average. That's the type of difference
20:12of how you can reach a tier that people uh can't really comprehend. So, I would say take a dart on a Packers player,
20:18take a dart on a Bears player, and just see what happens. Well, and we can just stack up all the potential small wins
20:24there are for the Packers and what changes they're going to have this year and that just naturally is going to raise up someone like Christian Watson
20:32or Matthew Golden in that like you said more just routes and drop backs. There's also going to be more snaps because of,
20:40you know, we are so used to this wide receiver rotation that is gone that >> Christian Watson is one of these guys
20:47that even if he's not as high variance as he has been in the past in terms of, hey, hitting on all these deep shots, we
20:52know last year when you watch the tape, his game evolved like third and six, he was a go-to player for them. His out
20:58routes at least doubled, tripled, quadrupled last year in terms of percent of his uh routes that he, you know, hit on the outside breakers. and he's the
21:07Z-spot, you know, he's not locked in on line of scrimmage at X. We're gonna move around these stacks and get free
21:12releases and all that stuff. So, yeah, Christian Watson is one of my favorite picks on the board in any round this
21:17year.
21:17>> Yep. All the last year stats, he had his ACL surgery in that calendar year. Like, the fact that he was able to do that
21:23just like shows how much of a freakazoid he is. They paid him almost $100 million. So, lots of incentives for Christian Watson. What what I should
21:29have done, Hayden, is say that he's my fifth round pick because I actually have him 46th overall and he's being selected
21:3558th overall. Uh and then maybe by the end of the season it looks more palatable when I say Jarian Price in
21:40round six versus round. Who knows?
21:43>> Yeah, I I hear I hear what you're saying. I think I got Christian Watson inside my top 50 as well. So I think we
21:47we see it similarly. All right, round seven. Hit me.
21:50>> Yep. We're playing the hits. Parker Washington. He's the sixth pick of the seventh round right now. Still going back to back with Brian Thomas Jr. on
21:59Yahoo at the minute. I mean, his rise in the fantasy landscape has been incredible. I mean, back in mid July when we started here on Yahoo, uh, and
22:08we did Harmon show, I think he was going 91st overall at that point. I had him 69th overall then. Now he's going 78th
22:16overall and I am 55th in in my rankings.
22:20Uh, and it's pretty easy why. I mean, when Parker Washington, Jacobe Myers, and Brian Thomas Jr. were all on the field together last year. Parker
22:28Washington was the wide receiver one. He had a team high 31% target share and had 3.17 yards per out run and he's out
22:36there in two wide receiver sets and then in three wide receiver sets he plays about 63% of his snaps from the slot
22:42which is exactly what we want. That's a good thing. He attacks the area of the field over the middle in the
22:47intermediate portion that Liam Cohen just dials up relentlessly. So Parker Washington is such a big winner of like week 11 and beyond last year and I have
22:58such high expectations for him this year.
23:01>> Yeah. I I hate to mo you but I got him 47th overall in my rankings. Uh I'm a huge fan of Parker Washington from week
23:07seven on. So like not even all the way into deep in the season, just week seven when he became a near full-time player.
23:1321% target share, wide receiver 15 usage. He was the wide receiver 18 in full PPR. Um, you know, everything from training camp, especially, you take
23:22another look at those cows, man. I I've not seen somebody built that thick.
23:25>> What is hilarious below, >> you and I record five hours of shows, six hours of shows every single week.
23:32>> Yeah.
23:33>> Uh, back when we joined Yahoo. Uh, it wasn't me talking about Parker Washington that like changed your mind about him. It was literally his caps.
23:42>> No. I mean, have you seen them? Like, there's no way those things are going to let you down. like those
23:47things. It's It's a totally different ball game. It's like it's insane.
23:50>> I hear you. By the way, Hayden keeps mentioning his rankings. If you want both of our rankings, they're in the
23:54description down below. Both half PPR and full PPR. I know I updated mine right before we uh recorded this episode. And if you want even more
24:02information, uh beyond Yahoo Plus, there's the Ultra Playbook. I mean, there's 150 page basically notebook that you get. And it's not just NFL fantasy
24:11football. It is all these different sports. It has, you know, tier rankings.
24:15that has our favorite targets and fades.
24:17I know Hayden's wr written a bunch of whole bunch of other things in there that I don't even know because I don't
24:22write that much. So, uh yeah, you you can go and find out more on uh Ultra Playbook on Yahoo.
24:28>> Yeah, Matt, Harmon, uh Scott, Joel, there's there's so much in there. It's it's it's insane stuff. All right. Uh on
24:35to round number eight. You got a lot of quarterbacks and some injured players here looking at it.
24:39>> In round eight and round nine, I'm stealing a couple picks that I earned with the J Sh J Sh J Sh J Sh J Sh J Sh J
24:43Sh J Sh J Sh J Sh Jiren Price one. Okay.
24:44So, commenters, don't get mad at me.
24:46I'll read your comments. Don't get mad at me. It'll make me think about it all night. All right.
24:50>> Uh, this one is George KD, and he's going at that 78 turn at the 12th pick of the seventh round, right? Um, this
24:57might confuse people. Let me tell you why. When George KD and Brock Purie have played together, just overall, okay, for their entire careers, KD has received a
25:06team high 33% of the team's endzone targets. We know that last year his 2.18 yards per route run, which was third
25:13best among tight ends, uh, he was third in fasy points per route run last year.
25:17Um, I think you can argue that there's still some questions about the supporting cast, albeit it's better than the one he played with last year. But
25:23what I love about George KD is I actually have him as tighten seven. He's being selected as tight end nine. I have
25:28in that same group at the end of this tier with Sam Laaporta and Tucker Craft.
25:32But if you draft cover for him, to me, this is a great round for him on a platform like Yahoo where the tight ends
25:38are going quite early that uh I'll pair him with a tight end later on. That is like this perfect one-two punch for
25:44early and then later in the season.
25:45>> Yeah, this feels like where the wide receivers kind of took a hit, especially when we lost like you know, Jordan
25:50Tyson, Alec Pierce, like some of these guys were like in this range, we just kind of straight up lost them. Cardinal
25:54T put into that just feel a little bit less comfortable. So George KD looks better because of that. And then also
25:59we've gotten I would say Jawan Johnson is one of these guys that you're talking about that can be your tight end one for
26:04a little bit. Daltton Schultz Daltton Schultz is another one. Uh all of a sudden like the the tight end two list I
26:10I can see for a couple weeks going with those guys. Um and then yeah, you never know. George >> KD possibility that KD plays in week one
26:17like maybe he's on a snap count, maybe we get more Jake Tanes, >> but I'm not saying I'm starting George KD in week one, but I think it's a
26:24quicker timeline than than other people believe that he'll be out there in a full snapshare. And last time I checked, you don't win your fantasy league based
26:30off of your round seven pick in week one. So I think like we could especially with you, this is your round eight pick
26:37hypothetically >> to to your point like I I like some of the tight ends that are selected obviously ahead of him and Sam Laaporta
26:44and Brock Bowers and Trey McBride and Tyler Warren all that group but the wide receivers and running backs I want to
26:51load up in that area at least on Yahoo.
26:54And then like you said, this eighth round range, the wide receivers, it's DK Metaf, Alec Pierce, Jordan Tyson, Chris Godwin, Courtland Sutton, like we don't
27:02want to talk about these guys on that show, you know? Nope.
27:05>> So, Nope. Nope.
27:06>> It's uh I I this is where I'm going to start to take my onesies here.
27:10>> Yeah, that that makes total sense. I'd say the quarterback's in the same spot.
27:13The more drafts I do, uh if you're in a crazy league where like Jayen Herz has fallen to the sixth, seventh round
27:18stuff, totally get that. But a lot of the times you want your like first six picks just being, you know, the flex
27:23eligible positions right now. All right, let's go to round nine.
27:27>> To me, this is where I take the fallen quarterback. Yeah, that's his name. Just the falling quarterback.
27:32>> Um, >> I like it >> that I mean because I really feel like one of these players from round eight,
27:37one of these passers from Brock Pertie, Patrick Mahomes, or Bo Knicks is going to be available in round nine in your
27:44home leagues. My favorite one of those picks is Brock Birdie. I mean, I'll stack him here with George KD and maybe
27:48stack him with a player we're going to name a bit later on, too.
27:51>> Um, I understand that the 49ers had the easiest schedule in the NFL last year, but it's not like Brock Party had it
27:57easy. You know, beat up offensive line, beat up skill room. He was beat up himself. He played what, eight or nine
28:03games. He still finished as the quarterback five in points per game after that. Um, this offense, because of Kyle Shanahan, is always going to have a
28:13high success rate. They're always going to have big points per drive. And Pery throws the ball down the field. Like I
28:19hope everyone understands this, right?
28:21He completed a league high 61% of his throws 10 or more yards down the field.
28:26And that is not the first time he's led the NFL in that stat or been three times now. So far, he's been top two in that
28:33mark. So, I understand that Brock Party is never going to be selected higher than the quarterback 12 basically because you
28:43have phenoms and gazels and prototypes that you can draft much much higher than that. But, uh, in this system and attached to Kal Shanahan, like we just
28:52saw when Brock Bird's on the field, he can finish as a top five or six quarterback for you and fans.
28:56>> Yeah, I think it's a great range for quarterbacks in general. I would lean towards tiebreers of who's fallen the farthest and then have you drafted a
29:03tight end or a receiver uh that's a teammate of his and then if not then you can break ties. I think Boon Knicks
29:09looks really good. I think Pertie is a great call out and it's like even guys after like Matthew Stafford you know
29:13just won the MVP. Uh he goes after this tier and then after that it's you know Jared Goff who's been second in uh
29:20passing yards for three straight seasons. Kyler Murray Jordan Love we just talked highly about Malik Willis is interesting. So, like it just such a
29:28deep position this year. It feels like even deeper this year than it has previously because we've had some good quarterback classes in the last uh
29:35handful of years. So, great range for quarterbacks in general.
29:38>> Yeah. It's why every single expert mockd draft that you see or watch here on YouTube, quarterbacks go so freaking light. And
29:45>> it's annoying. It's annoying because I mean it's so different in your home leagues. Like again, if we just look at
29:50Yahoo's ADP, like Josh Allen is a second round pick, but what at best in expert drafts, he's going to go in the sixth
29:57round.
29:57>> You know, >> I was in the Roto World Mock draft, and I love those guys. Joe Burrow went in round 10. I'm like, okay, like
30:04>> it's not even real life.
30:05>> We're on another planet. We're on another planet here. I mean, like, it's supposed to be a mock draft, not like I
30:11know better than you, you stupid idiots.
30:13Like, what is this? This is so dumb.
30:16Yeah, Hayden, whenever you can take uh you know, Isaiah likely ahead of Joe Burrow, you've got to do it.
30:22>> No, literally it's like I would rather have Travis Hunter than Joe Burrow. It's like, okay, [laughter] like let's let's let's get back to uh to here anyways.
30:32Anyways, >> all right. Are we round nine or round 10? I forget.
30:35>> We're round 10 now. My uh 10th round pick again. Betting my fantasy season on this guy per the title.
30:42>> Bill Krosky Merritt. We're doing it all over again. Hey. Uh, I mean, zooming out, led the back field in touches last
30:50year, yards from scrimmage with 873 touchdowns as well. That was as a seventh round rookie. You would like to think that, you know, a secondyear
30:58seventh round rookie has more cache in the building, has more experience, especially after missing his entire final season of college football because
31:06he was deemed ineligible. But, you know, there's underlying metrics for every single player that we can point out that make us infatuated with them. But, this
31:15one for Bill is one of my favorites this entire draft cycle. Uh Josh Connorly, their second uh year tackle, said that
31:23they were very good in outside zone last year and that they plan to do it much more often with David Blau calling
31:28plays. Per fantasy points data, the Commanders were best in the NFL last year in outside zone at 6.1 yards per carry. and Bill led the NFL in yards per
31:37carry on outside zone at 7.6. Now, that might be a somewhat small sample, but at the same time, right now, Rashad White
31:45is out of practice with a groin strain or a hamstring strain. Uh, may or may not have been caused by an ALS ice
31:52bucket challenge. Um, and Bill, I'm not saying he's white in the passing game, but Ben Ben Standic and all these other
31:59beat writers are commenting JP Finley that he is improving in the passing game. So he just has has to be like a
32:05net negative there. Just be fine in that category. And I think he's already the best rusher on this team. So this is
32:12like a a post hype sleeper. I think Bill Crosby is in 2026.
32:17>> He should be going earlier this year than he did last year. Like like I think that's even up. Yeah, he's not. Yeah,
32:22it's going later. Um I see it the same way. I was I was Rashad White curious initially and then you just the more
32:28that they talked about Jaori Krosky Merritt catching passes on early downs which he's not going to be asked to pass for deck like they're just trying to get
32:34could he catch 30 passes on first and second down like could we do that and uh it does seem like like they feel a
32:41little bit more confident that that's possible. It's a it's an explosive offense. He's an explosive player. He averaged 4.6 yards per carry last year.
32:47Like I can totally see him like him, Blake Cororum, Kyle Manungai if those guys don't get the starting role like Jakori Krosky Merritt could average like
32:55three four more fantasy points per game over those guys and he gets drafted later. So I think it's a great call.
33:00>> Yeah. And look, I I waited if if we're looking at this as a actual roster that I'm building and it's not an awful one,
33:06right? I think it's a pretty good one.
33:08>> Then the Jarian Price Bill Crosky Merrick combo I think is a a really cool one in the top top two rounds. So that
33:14that's one actually I've done frequently here. Okay, on to round 11.
33:18>> Round 11. I mean, we got to talk about rookies and uh >> still in the strip club by myself, man.
33:24I'm 82nd overall with Deshan Stribbling.
33:27He's going in the 12th round, the third pick of the 12th round. I'm taking him here in the 11th round. Uh but Hayden,
33:33based on my ranking, I take him in the ninth or 10th round if you need to in your leagues. And >> yeah, when when do you when would you
33:39draft him? Because I think this is like a fake ADP almost. I think like people are going to show up to the party this
33:44weekend. Like when would you actually draft him?
33:46>> Again, I have him 82nd overall and the 82nd overall pick. I mean, you don't have to take him here, but that's in the
33:53seventh round. Okay. Um I think you can take him in the ninth round every single time, the 10th round, and you would get
33:59him in every single draft at this moment. Uh it's going to trend in that direction once we get towards the end of
34:04August and early September if he stays healthy and continues on this path. I mean, literally every single day he's getting rave reviews and he's not coming
34:13off the field and he's getting the football. Again, there's just this anchoring that we have going on the fantasy community right now. They don't
34:20want to fall in love with this guy because of their pre-draft opinions.
34:23>> Yeah.
34:23>> When if you just looked at it, the 33rd overall pick competing with Mike Evans and Debo Samuel on an offense that we
34:31just talked about that is scoring points no matter what. We should fall in love with Deshawn Strippling. I have. I fell
34:38in love in the club and uh too many people have not yet. So catch up, get on board because I think Deshan Sting is
34:44gonna have a really great really great season and uh we can still get him at a tremendous value here.
34:49>> Yeah. I think like the rule is that you see Quinton Johnson go off the board, it's time to like add scribbling into
34:56the queue. You know, like if that that type of tier, Michael Wilson, like those names start coming off the board, it's
35:00it's time to draft him. I think he's going to be like the sleeper. We know it's the sleeper, but I'm believing in
35:06it. Uh the offense is too good. He'll make anybody go at wide receiver. Like you know, think Jawan Jennings is really
35:11that good at football. He had moments.
35:13You know, Demarcus Robinson comes in there, he has moments like you, Jess Cook when you're attached to Kyle Shanahan.
35:18>> And we've already seen it all with him, right? We we've seen him line up outside and catch ball down the field. We saw
35:24manufactured touch for him. We've seen him in the slot on crossing routes as well. So, this is already a player that
35:31they're calling extremely intelligent and is being able to absorb like every single alignment here. And uh I think Kyle's going to have a lot of fun
35:39utilizing him this season. One last thing on round 11 before we move on.
35:44Also love Matthew Golden in this round.
35:45Also love Malik Willis in this round. Um go and watch the NFL Daily episode I just did with Greg Rosenthal. Hayden, he
35:52said he would draft Matthew Golden straight up ahead of Christian Watson.
35:55>> Um I have them almost in the same tier.
35:57I pretty much nobody's higher on Matthew Golden than I am, except for apparently uh Triple G over there. Uh but I mean
36:04the training camp reports on Matthew Golden are have been really really strong and he's a full-time player. I I remember I was like, "Oh, he was a he
36:12was a good athlete in the combine." I went back and looked at it. 429 athlete.
36:16I mean, like we're talking incredible speed. Uh so yeah, I love that call. All right, round 12.
36:23>> Uh I'm going to take someone from round 13 and put them into round 12. This is Oh gosh, this is Katon Mitchell, eighth
36:29pick of the 13th round. I think it was on your list as well.
36:32>> I'll go quickly here. There's going to be a package of plays for Katon Mitchell in every single game, right? Five to
36:38eight touches per contest. You think that's fair? Does that sound about right? And >> more >> maybe it blossoms into more. Again, this
36:45is an offense with Mike McDaniel that supported the running back three and four in points per game just a couple years ago where one guy was the
36:54touchdown scorer inside the 20 yardd line, Raheem Moert. And then the other guy was the explosive big play merchant and Devon Achan uh and also touchdowns
37:04from distance and receiver and maybe that can be Katon Mitchell here. I mean, we're seeing some like downfield routes from him in camp. I mean, it's it's fun
37:10stuff. So, look, I am not one of these people that is of the opinion that outright Katon Mitchell is just going to
37:16snipe and take away this job from Omar and Hampton, but I just love the upside swing this late on. And he is not like a
37:25handcuff type for me. He has like standalone individual value in an offense that I really want pieces of.
37:31>> I'm not saying Keen Mitchell is anything close to Devon Han, but in that season that you talked about, he averaged 11
37:37touches per game. I think that would be like the upside for Katon Mitchell. But would I be surprised if it's eight
37:43touches per game and if he's there's no reason to not think that he's not gonna have what one of the highest efficiency
37:48numbers like this is what he's done for years and years here. So I I think that you know if he had eight touches
37:53multiply that by six seven yards a carry like there's a chance in during by-week you can throw him into your flex and
37:59there's a chance if Omar Hampton gets injured that he would be like a very very big part of uh the fantasy
38:05discussion some way uh in in the middle of the season.
38:07>> Yeah. And I I don't think the Chargers intended to set this up, but they are kind of set up well to fill in for Tyler
38:15Bottes by taking Jake Slaughter in round two. Uh again, I believe they selected him for him to hopefully win that left
38:22guard job. He did not win that left guard job and so now he just becomes their starting center. Uh and the center
38:27spot is so important here for Mike Mutan. We know his his run concepts. So hopefully he can fill in. I know it's a
38:33rookie, but uh maybe he overperforms even his draft slot for.
38:37>> Yeah, the interior of the offensive line's making me nervous not bad last year, too.
38:43>> Yes. But at a certain point, it's like guys I've never even pronounced their name before in front of a camera
38:48starting uh and then you know, rookie centers. But the good news is Keen Mitchell, you run to the outside. As long as Trey Harris can hit the blocks
38:56and you got uh Charlie Kohler, it doesn't matter. So that's that's where we're at with the with the the Chargers. Okay, we've got two more here.
39:03Let's go. Round 13. Um, you mentioned him earlier. I'll bring it home. That's Jawan Johnson. He's the 10th pick of the
39:0913th round. I mean, 900 yards last year and basically now the second best pass catcher on the Saints with Jordan Tyson
39:16sidelined. And you and I think towards the end of October, if not through October. So, you know, back on what July
39:2421st, Nick Underh Hill told you that all of Yahoo's ADP was well well underrating um Jawan Johnson and he's going to be on
39:33the field all the time and it's competing with Devon and Bryce Lance now for targets. Uh and they're run some heavier personnel stuff too with the
39:41tight ends that they brought in plus, you know, drafting our guy and Oscar Delp out of Georgia. And that's going to
39:47help Chris Ave and that's really going to help Jawan Johnson here too.
39:50converted wide receiver. I'll throw in a little hashtag shower narrative for Jawan Johnson uh and Tyler Shuck at Oregon in about like 2018. Like I don't
39:59think I'm exaggerating. I think like that might have actually like been the year.
40:02>> Um but without Rashid Shahid last year from like week 10 on he was a tight end five in yards per game, tied in eight in
40:08receptions per game. I mean >> he's really good. Like he's a converted wide receiver. like he's, you know, the Chigs, Isaiah Likely, like he is like
40:16the proven commodity of that tier in the fastest paced offense, uh, dome environment, easy schedule. Love it.
40:23>> Just to bring that point home on Yahoo and other platforms, Isaiah Likely is being selected as the tight end 13 in
40:31the ninth round. Chiggo Quano, who at some point was my highest drafted player, and I don't think I've touched him after that, is Titan 16 in the 11th
40:39round. And Jawan here goes at the end of round 13 as the tight end 20. Um I straight up have Jawan Johnson as the
40:47tight end 12 this year.
40:49>> I like it. Yep. I'm right in that range.
40:51I'd have rather have him than Ferguson, Mark Andrews, those guys, you know. I think I'd rather have likely because he's probably going to do it the entire
40:57season. But Jawan Johnson the first uh month or two of the season, I'm going to be flirting with a top 12 ranking on him
41:03every week.
41:03>> I'm gonna steal someone from round 15 here who's probably gonna climb up to round 14, if not higher. Uh, I'll finish
41:08with Jonah Coleman, uh, from the Denver Broncos, the rookie running back. Davis Webb spoke glowingly about him just two days ago after the preseason first game
41:18said, quote, I think after that one run, we all sat on the headset, yeah, we're good.
41:24>> Um, and in fact, I think if you like read between the lines, kind of surmise that the Broncos could potentially
41:30believe that Jonah Coleman is the running back of the future. So, this is not a week one play for Jonah Coleman.
41:36It might not even be a week five play, but after that, at some point this year, I think Jonah Coleman is going to get
41:42big work in this backfield by injury or not. And he also has like usefulness in the passing game, which JK Dobbins does
41:50not have. Uh Jonah Coleman is very calm and assured in that area too that he showed in Washington.
41:56>> Yeah, calm's a really great word for him. Just really trusted. Not a surprise that he's just like checking the boxes
42:01in training camp, in the preseason, those two cutback runs, a little spin move on top of it. So yeah, just he's
42:07not a great athlete. If he was, he would have been drafted in the first or second round. So that was like the discount. Uh
42:12Shawn Payeyton likes these guys in defined roles. He's capable of that. My question to you, and I've thought about this a lot, JK Dobbins, you know, it's
42:20week six pulls up lame. He's out for the year. Like truthfully, truth serum take Josh, is it Jonah Cole or or RJ Harvey?
42:28I know it's going to be a committee, but like we draft RJ Harvey in the ninth round and Jonah Coleman's going to be on
42:33waiverwires. I'm trying to like really think about that uh contingent value because I do think that like at the goal line and whatnot, I feel like it would
42:40be Jonah Coleman.
42:41>> Yeah, it will be Jonah Coleman. Um I and we're going to learn that I think more and more and more as we go through the
42:47final weeks of the preseason and training camp. I was just looking up during this episode, pulled up my prospect rankings at the running back
42:54spot. I had Jon Coleman fourth running back four in this class. So was a huge fan. I called him this year's Kung guy.
43:01Guess what? on like this very show. I think we talked about Kyle Manungai last year as one of our favorite picks and my
43:08favorite picks in in any given round.
43:10Yeah. And uh I think Jonah Coleman has a a fantastic chance of doing that. So uh we'll see. 58 220 man. He's a fire
43:16hydrant. He's a submarine out there.
43:18>> He he he really is. I think he's going to be one of these guys after like week one, week two, he's going to be like the
43:22first guy you cut and then I think on the Waverwire shows the last thing we'll say is just pick up Coleman now. Just
43:27right now. Just get it over with.
43:28>> Um I was surprised you didn't say Mike Washington. I was waiting for the Mike Washington because I think you're talking about your pre-draft rankings.
43:33Yeah, >> Mike Washington might have he might have been RB2 for a certain somebody plays tonight. I'm very excited to watch him
43:39play.
43:39>> Mike Washington was RB2. Uh that run that he had in the preseason. Certainly won't dissuade me from thinking he might
43:46be running back too in this class. Uh I'll leave people that are what uh I don't know 45 minutes into this episode
43:54with a bit of a prediction. I think Mike Washington Jr. steals more away from Ashen Genty than is being accredited to
44:01him right now.
44:02>> Agree. I don't see why not.
44:04>> Now, you know, that was only what, like 14% of running back touches went to non Ashen Genty players last year.
44:12>> Triple it.
44:13>> Triple it. That's a lot. That's a lot. I I think it will be like 7030.
44:21>> I think it'll be 7030.
44:22>> Yeah.
44:23>> Yeah.
44:23>> Yeah. I think that's about right.
44:24>> Okay. But that's a huge difference than, you know, having a back that gets 86% of the carries that or in touches. That is,
44:31you know, the >> 12th, 13th pick in drafts right now for Washington. So, >> I like a a dangerous truth serum 45
44:38minutes. Bury it in there. No time stamps needed. Just clip it when it's right. I love it.
44:42>> Yes. Uh yeah. Then the truth serum is, hey, guess what? Mike Washington is going to get 30% of the workload. That's
44:47a huge huge leap. Huge.
44:49>> Hey, tell that to the people drafting Genty at 10th overall. Oh, no. Those are fighting words around here.
44:55>> Um, >> final thing >> on the NFL Daily episode, >> Greg said he would draft Saquon Barkley third overall and was totally with me
45:03that he should be drafted well well well ahead of Ashton Chitty. This was a great episode. I didn't have to do anything.
45:08He set it up that like the four big things that fantasy football has wrong this year and uh half of them half of
45:14them were uh right in line with how I think versus the the consensus. I I consume so many of football shows.
45:22That's obviously one of them. I can always tell Greg, and I like this about him, he's like above fantasy football, but he's still fantasy football curious.
45:30He wants to give like a take here and there. Like he wants to be like 10% of a fantasy football analyst. Uh so he has
45:36to get his little predictions in there left and right. I love it.
45:38>> One final thing, and again, maybe we should save this for Monday.
45:42>> Um but we have a couple of extra minutes here. Jeremiah Love is like tanked in rankings since this high ankle sprain.
45:49Hey, do you want to take a guess where he's at in consensus rankings right now?
45:53Um, it's nuts.
45:55>> I've been drafting him in the fourth round uh in some drafts. I think that's ridiculous. I would be surprised. He's a
46:00consensus 36 or something like that.
46:01>> 40th overall in consensus rankings right now.
46:04>> I said it last month. Malik Neighbors the most mispriced player in fantasy.
46:07Cross off. We fix that problem. Jeremiah Love. My goal from this point forward, draft Jeremiah Love every single time in round three, see what happens. I see a
46:16superstar out there and this team's going to give him the rock. He might miss the first game. Like, who cares?
46:21Like, this is a there's we never see somebody as talented he as he is available this late. Um, I think he's
46:29like an auto click as round four.
46:31Jeremiah Love, you should like literally host a a pizza party as you make the the selection.
46:36>> 40th overall would be the fourth pick of the fourth round. That's where Jaylen Wadd's going on Yahoo right now. Now
46:41again, Jerem is still the second pick at the third round, but I'm just saying with these consensus ranks, 40th overall. Um, yeah. I mean, I I'll gladly
46:49take him 35th overall every single time.
46:51>> Well, you know what, like it happens in the home leagues, like you're going to see the queue, the O tag, like his
46:55name's in bright red. You know, there's fantasy doctors on the apps telling you to not draft this guy, and then all of a
47:01sudden, like you're like, "Oh man, I really drafted Lad Mania instead of the third overall pick in the draft."
47:06>> That's going to do it. We're going to be back on Monday to probably repeat some of the stuff we just said about Jeremiah
47:11Love, but most importantly, most importantly to recap everything that happened in preseason week 2. We're going to combine the running back, wide
47:19receivers, most likely rankings changes into just one massive episode. Uh on Monday, we'll watch every single preseason game so you don't have to. And
47:27that means all you have to do is hit subscribe, leave a thumbs up, even leave a comment down below. Uh and yeah, we'll
47:34see you then. Big month up the villa.
47:36Talk to you guys soon. See you.
47:38>> Round three or round 13.
47:39>> Nope. Should redo that. Round 12.
47:43>> I'm seeing just Okay. Three, two, one.
47:46All right. Baker's Dozen. Round 12.
47:49Round 13. Round 14. Here we go.
47:51>> Okay.
47:52>> Let me do that again. Three.
47:55>> Three. Okay. Here we go.
47:56>> There's some great bloopers weaves.

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