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0:08Tonight on The Insiders, the NFLPA wants an investigation into Jalen Hurts' medical situation.
0:12Lamar Jackson is back on the field in limited fashion.
0:15And Baker Mayfield ahead of schedule back at practice.
0:18Can he suit up Sunday to get the Bucs back on track?
0:22Welcome to The Insiders presented by Progressive Insurance. Mike Garofalo, Judy Battista, Adam Schefter, and I am Sarah Walsh with you as week seven is underway.
0:30And questions concerning the handling of Jalen Hurts continue days after learning that he will miss the remainder of the season after
0:37blood clots were discovered in his lungs. Today at the owners meetings in New York, Roger Goodell was asked his thoughts regarding the NFLPA calling for an investigation.
0:45Well, we welcome that. That's part of our processes.
0:48That's fine. We have chief, our chief medical officer has been through the protocols that were followed.
0:53So we welcome that. If that's what they do, they have that right.
0:57Well, I'm not sure how much international travel had to do with this in that context.
1:02That's maybe for medical professionals to tell us if that had any impact.
1:06I haven't heard that to date. Obviously, there was a medical evaluation.
1:10And I think our protocols were incredibly good there.
1:13The most important thing here is Jalen's health, ultimately, and the future.
1:16He's a wonderful young man and not just a great player, but he's someone we all care deeply about.
1:22So I'm more worried about his health, ultimately, but the protocols were followed.
1:26Our process is to make sure that's the case, and our chief medical officer has gone through that.
1:32So we're comfortable with what we've seen and the protocols have happened.
1:36When you get into medical evaluations, you see different people have different opinions on that.
1:40You all are reporting different people are making those evaluations without even seeing the player or without even seeing the medical records.
1:47And I think that's important to understand we have the greatest medical advisors and people that are working on the health of our players.
1:55Mike, what more can you tell us about how all of this is unfolding?
1:59Sarah, the NFL saying that they will welcome the investigation.
2:02Roger Goodell saying it's part of the process. That's part of the collective bargaining agreement where the sides can appoint independent doctors that will then review the situation.
2:11And within 60 days of being selected, quote their recommendations as to what steps shall be taken to address and correct any
2:17issues shall be acted upon by the party. So they are in the process now of communicating between the sides to figure
2:24out how this is going to go about. And then we'll have the process that will take, as you see right there, within a couple of months.
2:33A standard concussion protocol review usually takes a couple of weeks.
2:36So the NFL PAs sitting there and hearing the NFL say yesterday and then again today from Roger Goodell as well that
2:43they believe that their doctors and the doctors that they helped arrange acted accordingly in their decision to allow Jalen Hurts to play with a superficial blood clot.
2:51And the PAs saying, well, that was too much.
2:54That was too quick. We're going to do a full review here.
2:58So that's where we are in this one. So this will take some time to get to the bottom of everything here.
3:05And the NFL extremely confident, both in what they said yesterday and today, that that review will find that their doctors acted accordingly.
3:12We shall see. And those neutral doctors who will who will take part in this investigation, they will have access to the team doctors.
3:19They will also have access to the medical records and they may or may not have access to Jalen Hurts himself.
3:26This is the strange dynamic in place. And this is what when you talk to sports lawyers, they say this could be a potential hurdle in this investigation.
3:35The agent, Nicole Lynn, Jalen Hurts' agent, has been releasing statements in concert with the Philadelphia Eagles, which certainly indicates that they
3:41are on the same page, that they are satisfied with the care he has received.
3:46So that would suggest that perhaps Jalen Hurts doesn't really feel like this needs to be investigated.
3:51He's pleased with the care he has received. That's a potential hurdle in the investigation, because certainly the physicians who are going
3:58to do this review would want to talk to Jalen Hurts.
4:01And the question then becomes, to what extent will he want to cooperate?
4:05How candid will he be about the care he received and what he thinks about the care he received?
4:11So that is a potential hurdle. But all of this is prescribed in the CBA and they will follow it.
4:18And again, in about two months, they will have to produce a report, Adam.
4:22Yeah, Judy. And that's the whole thing. You mentioned the appointed physicians to independent physicians.
4:27They obviously have 60 days to appoint those physicians.
4:29Those physicians then would have 60 days to issue their report.
4:33But we go back to what the NFL has said all along, that the chief medical officer, Dr.
4:38Alan Sills, was in contact with the NFLPA before they brought Jalen Hurts to the hospital in London.
4:44They told the NFLPA exactly what was going on.
4:47The NFLPA knew of all the treatment that was occurring with Jalen Hurts.
4:51And so the NFLPA is calling for that independent investigation that the CBA allows them for.
4:56But obviously there are two different versions here about what may have transpired here in recent days.
5:01And then, of course, Adam, the Eagles are hosting the Cowboys on Monday night.
5:05All eyes on the potential return this week for another quarterback.
5:09Lamar Jackson has been out since spraining his ankle week four against the Titans.
5:13We've got an AFC North showdown with the Bengals looming.
5:16The AFC North has three teams, four and two records, including those Ravens.
5:20The Bengals at three and two. Adam, what can you tell us about the chances that we are going to see Lamar on Sunday?
5:28Sarah, I think a couple of weeks ago there were people who felt like Lamar was going to play in that game
5:34against the Atlanta Falcons, and he didn't. And there were people who felt like he was going to play in this past
5:41game against the Cleveland Browns, and he didn't. And there were people who felt like he would play this upcoming week against the Bengals.
5:49Tell me when this sounds familiar. And when practice started today, Lamar was not out there.
5:54Now, he did wind up practicing in a limited fashion.
5:57But the way it was explained to me, there was a limp in his step.
6:01He does not seem to be fully right. And Lamar Jackson is not going to be out on the practice field until
6:08Lamar Jackson signs off on being on the playing field.
6:11So until he feels like he's 100% and he tells everybody he feels like 100%, we won't see Lamar.
6:17That could be this week. It could be next week.
6:20But I think there are people who thought it would be already, and it hasn't happened.
6:25Listen, we were just talking about it. So it's a much different subject with Jalen Hurts with the blood clots versus a sprained ankle here.
6:33But there is patient autonomy, Adam. And what you're saying there is that Lamar Jackson has a say in this.
6:39And the NFL has been clear about this as well because Jalen Hurts played with a superficial blood clot.
6:45They're saying, hey, the patient has a say in the matter as well.
6:49Well, this is a much different, much less serious situation, but still a player health situation in which Lamar Jackson is clearly having his say.
6:57And he's had it in the past. And I have heard that this year with him and Jesse Minter and the way
7:03that he's locked in, the relationship, that he is rehabbing and pushing a lot harder than maybe he would have in previous years.
7:11But he's still not on the field. And he's still of the mentality of, as Adam described it, Dr.
7:16Lamar Jackson is going to sign off when player Lamar Jackson is ready to go.
7:21Meanwhile, in the NFC South, everyone is trying to catch the Panthers, including a Bucs team visiting Carolina on Sunday.
7:27Baker Mayfield practiced in what the Bucs are calling full capacity for the first time today since dislocating that thumb in week three against the Vikings.
7:35Todd Bowles not ready to make any decisions yet.
7:38I think he's coming along fine. I think once he got warmed up and started looking pretty good, you know, as practice went on.
7:46So, you know, we'll continue to monitor and see how he goes through the week.
7:50He started the practice with a glove. Did that stay on the entire practice today?
7:55Yes, it did. How did he feel? Did he give you any feedback in terms of how he felt throwing the ball with the glove?
8:03He said it felt good. I mean, he's done it one time before, so he said it felt okay.
8:08How much of a test will tomorrow be? Because, obviously, he went through a football practice where he's having to grip the
8:15ball, and it's not like he's just having to do that for, you know.
8:20We've got to see how he feels first, and, you know, then we'll go through that as we get through tomorrow and Friday.
8:27We've got to see how he comes out of it, and after a day, how the thumb responds.
8:32How were you able to split the reps between he and Jalen?
8:36Each got to get mental reps sometimes. Some got to get physical reps.
8:40I mean, they both understand the game plan, and they're both ready to play.
8:44How important, even if you don't make the decision publicly, how important is it to kind of have a decision in your
8:51mind in terms of game planning and preparation for Sunday?
8:54Well, it's extremely important. I mean, you've got to have the quarterback get their mental reps in play, and everybody's got to
9:01understand who's on the center and what kind of game plan we have.
9:05So, Judy, the Bucs got a glimpse of Baker today.
9:08What are you hearing about their confidence that he can return on Sunday?
9:12Well, first of all, him being a full participant in practice is obviously a very good indication that he could be available.
9:19On Sunday. But you heard Todd Bowles reference this.
9:22They need to see more now. And speaking to folks down there, first of all, he looked good in the practice.
9:28He did wear the glove throughout. That obviously is supposed to help with the grip, which is what the concern is with the dislocated thumb.
9:36Obviously, he needs to be able to grip the football.
9:39He needs to be able to spin it. So what they are concerned with now is he went through a full day of practice.
9:47How's the thumb going to respond? Is it going to swell up?
9:50Is he going to be in agonizing pain when he wakes up tomorrow?
9:54How will it respond? And then if he can practice tomorrow and then if he can practice Friday again, how does the thumb respond?
10:02How does it feel? Can he keep getting through practices?
10:05Certainly, it is a very good sign. And really, he is right on track.
10:09This was supposed to be a three-week injury. He missed three games.
10:13So he is right on track to potentially start this Sunday.
10:16And, Judy, typically Baker will talk on a Wednesday.
10:19That's when they always have the quarterbacks talk. The Bucs push that back to tomorrow to give him more time so that
10:26they can figure out what they're doing. But they do believe that he is probably going to be talking tomorrow.
10:32Judy, thanks. Here's a look at some other notable injuries that we are tracking this week.
10:37Obviously, Saquon Barkley at the top of that list.
10:40In Nashville, Robert Sala spoke today for the first time about Jordan Elliott, who the Titans released on Tuesday.
10:46That was after an altercation with a teammate had the defensive lineman trying to retrieve a gun from his car.
10:52Here's Sala. I will stand on the table for Jordan's character.
10:55Unfortunately, rules are rules with regards to guns on property.
10:58And sometimes it's far greater than the knee-jerk reaction of kicking somebody and kicking somebody when they're down.
11:04My message to 31 other teams would be if you need a hell of a run-stopping de-tackle that can help you on
11:11a playoff run, give me a call. I'll tell you everything you need to know about him.
11:16He's a good man. Made a terrible – had a terrible lapse in judgment that I recognize as a call for help more than a criminal act.
11:24And it's unfortunate the way it went down. But as far as Jordan's concerned and the locker room and all that, I
11:31think the locker room and Jordan, I think people see it differently here than the knee-jerk reaction of the world.
11:37Mike, this is obviously a story that calls for more context.
11:41The Titans were coming off their first win of the season.
11:44What happened there in Nashville? This is extremely polarizing, Sarah, for Robert Sala's comments and the reaction to them and folks saying,
11:51Oh, he needs help, but he brought a gun that could have endangered a bunch of other people.
11:57Like, he should never be allowed in an NFL facility ever again.
12:00And then you had folks on the other side who said, This is a coach who is understanding his players and understanding his people.
12:08And though the young man made a mistake by going to his car to get the gun, which shouldn't have been there
12:15in the first place and, from my understanding, never left his parking spot.
12:19It was right there in that area and never made it that way.
12:23And credit to John Franklin Myers, the veteran who had been with Sala before when he played for the Jets, to de-escalate
12:29the situation because maybe this could have gone a different way if not for Franklin Myers.
12:34So good on him. But this is Sala saying that the league has done a good job and the team has done a good job.
12:42There are consequences for action, but they have done a good job of talking to the player involved here, Jordan Elliott, and
12:49working on the mental health part of this. There's an initiative.
12:52The NFL has an initiative. The NFL teams have individual mental health initiatives.
12:56We wear the pins, the shirts, and all these initiatives that the league has.
13:01Well, Robert Sala trying to put it in action here and making sure that Jordan Elliott knows, despite the fact that he
13:08made a mistake and he won't be a Titan moving forward, his career's not over and his life is not over, Adam.
13:14And I think it's a really good message that, again, some people are just not going to be with, but a lot
13:21of people are, and I appreciate what Sala's trying to do here.
13:25Well, it was a thoughtful answer that the Titans head coach Robert Sala gave.
13:29But there also are rules about having guns in the facility.
13:33There are rules about having guns in society. And in this particular case, NFL rules state you cannot have a gun at a training facility.
13:40You cannot have a gun at a stadium. You cannot have a gun at your house.
13:45Those are the NFL rules. And in this particular case, the Titans made the decision to move on.
13:51In a separate incident this past week, the Buffalo Bills had a second defensive back suspended for spitting during the course of a game against the Raiders.
13:59So there were not one spitters. There were two spitters.
14:02And in this particular case, Sam Franklin Jr. denied that he spit.
14:06He has appealed. C.J. Gardner-Johnson, the other Buffalo safety who also was suspended for spitting at Brock Bowers.
14:12He also is appealing. Now, the Bills are on their bye week.
14:15Usually we get the results of these appeals right away.
14:18But this hasn't moved as quickly as some of these other appeals because of the bye.
14:23And that's the reason that the suspension came down today.
14:26The news of this incident surfaced in the league later.
14:30The Bills are on the bye. They could suspend the player one game today.
14:34And we'll see what both appeals hold. Adam, thank you.
14:37From injuries to the results, things have not gone according to plan for the Rams.
14:42Why they believe the turnaround is coming. And can J.J.
14:45McCarthy resurrect his NFL career in a New York minute?
14:48Change is underway for the Giants at quarterback. Football's back.
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15:03When you meet people and you say your job's a sports announcer, it's always interesting to see what the first thing they say is.
15:10I did have one of the more difficult questions, though.
15:13He sits next to me and he sees I'm on my computer.
15:17And he goes, big sports fan. And I was like, yeah, actually.
15:21And he goes, what do you think about my Jaguars this year?
15:24I realized, like, no one's ever asked me that question ever about anything.
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15:36Well, the Giants have a bye next week. They could have waited to make a quarterback change after it.
15:42Instead, John Harbaugh decided that the J.J. McCarthy era in New York is going to start now.
15:47Just being around a new group of guys, new system, new coaching staff, just a new culture.
15:53Everything about this place, you know, it feels very fitting for me.
15:56You know, just being, you know, in a makeshift locker room, being in this system where, you know, they use the quarterback's legs and a multitude of things.
16:05But the personalities, the culture of just, you know, grinding every single day to get better and everyone helping each other to, you know, progress towards one goal.
16:14It's been fantastic. You know, a lot of successful buildings have similar qualities.
16:18And this building definitely has that. But it's got its own little makeshift of New York Giant football.
16:23Well, despite losing Jackson Dart in Week 2, the Giants sit atop the NFC East standings.
16:28Only the Cowboys have had their QB1 start every single game this year in that division.
16:33The Giants on their third starting quarterback seven weeks into the season.
16:37Jordan Renan was at practice today with the Giants, and he has more.
16:41Thanks, Sarah. The Giants officially made the move from Jameis Winston to J.J.
16:45McCarthy as their starting quarterback. Head coach John Harbaugh said it's going to be for the foreseeable future.
16:50He thought that this was the right time to make the move.
16:54And as a matter of fact, didn't make any grand announcement to the team.
16:58And some players even told me they didn't even realize they had switched quarterbacks until they started going through the game plan.
17:05As for McCarthy, this is a chance to resuscitate his career.
17:09He feels he's in better shape to succeed than he was in Minnesota because experience does wonders.
17:14As for the Giants, they're hoping that the change does wonders for their running game.
17:19They developed an offense for Jackson Dart that several sources told me they had to put on the back burner when Winston became the starting quarterback.
17:27This now gives them a chance to pull it out and use it using McCarthy's athleticism and legs.
17:32They also hope it could benefit their running backs who struggled greatly in recent weeks.
17:37Back to you, Sarah. All right. It's Giants and Texans this week.
17:41Meanwhile, the Rams have been decimated on the injury front, losing some of their biggest names, and they're losing them for significant time.
17:48They're going to visit the Raiders this week. The Rams have dropped two in a row.
17:53They're sitting at the bottom of the NFC West at two and four, a position that no one expected them to be in coming into this season.
18:01I got Taylor Bishotti with me again. And, Taylor, I feel like this is deja vu because a week ago we were
18:08here, and I was like, what is it like out there when you were out there at practice?
18:13They're going to get this thing turned around, and then it's another loss.
18:17So I ask you again a week later, I mean, what is the mood like for the Rams?
18:23They believe that they can turn it around. They've been here before, and they've turned it around, so they believe that it is still very possible for them.
18:32Quentin Lake said on Monday in 2024, they started the season off one and four, went on to win the division.
18:38In 2023, they started three and six and still made the playoffs.
18:42Now, the difference between those two instances and now is that those turnarounds happened after their bye.
18:47This year, they can't afford to wait that long.
18:50Their bye doesn't come until week 11. Three of their next four games are on the road, but it's a more favorable
18:57stretch of the schedule, and it's an opportunity to get to six and four entering the bye, but that means if they
19:04want to do that, they're going to have to clean up the penalties, the turnovers, and address the special teams, which is
19:10a unit that ranks as the least efficient in the NFL.
19:14They believe a turnaround is very possible, but the window is closing, and they need to start winning now.
19:20Well, the window is closing, and then, of course, you have that list that we just put up of the injuries.
19:26Among the guys on that list, Devontae Adams, and I think the thing that hurts so much is it's not like a
19:33one-week sort of absence for Devontae in particular. Talking about six to ten weeks there, so when it comes to this aerial
19:40attack, now you've lost Devontae Adams for a significant chunk.
19:43Where do they turn to to supplant the fact that he's not going to be there?
19:48And keep in mind, they've already been pretty anemic at receiver, trying to find other ways to implement tight ends, running backs,
19:55and speaking of running backs, Kyron Williams, while he's not going to replace Devontae Adams, he is a receiver who he is
20:01a running back who has proven that he can be valuable in the passing game.
20:06Through the first six games of the season, he leads all running backs in receptions, and when I spoke with him, he
20:13told me he loves how his role has evolved in this offense.
20:17He actually grew up playing receiver. That's the position he wanted to play.
20:21He played it throughout high school, but he, quote, in his words, said he never grew, so he had to move to the running back position.
20:29Now he's getting to do both, and he said proving himself as a pass catcher has given him the confidence to go
20:35to Matthew Stafford, ask him how he's seeing certain plays, and he's really developed a deeper relationship with him, and that only
20:42came after he had the confidence and had proven himself as a pass catcher.
20:47So while Kyron won't replace Devontae Adams, there is nobody that will replace Devontae Adams, he can be a weapon for Sean
20:53McVay in this offense who, honestly, they could use him like they used Todd Gurley back in the day in 2018.
21:00And then you go, well, what do they have to make this turnaround?
21:04They have Matthew Stafford. So what gives you belief that they can turn this team around?
21:09Well, there's a Matthew Stafford leading this team still.
21:12The Rams, however, have dropped from first in scoring a year ago to 20th.
21:16Meanwhile, the Cowboys, another prolific attack that has been quiet in recent weeks.
21:20You better believe Jerry Jones weighing in from owners' meetings today.
21:23Welcome back to the Insiders. Caleb Williams, fresh off his comeback now in a short week as his Bears are hosting the Patriots.
21:31Here's a look at the key injuries for that Thursday night matchup starting on the Patriots' side of things.
21:36They're already down starting corner in Carlton Davis, and then you look at the Bears' notable injuries for Thursday night.
21:43Kyle Menungai is out. Now, Bears fans just relieved that their quarterback no longer on that list, although rest after his return
21:49is not a luxury that he has this week.
21:52Adam, how is his recovery looking this week after coming back Sunday from that hamstring injury?
21:57Sarah, the fact that he wasn't even listed on the injury report has to be an encouraging sign, and this is something,
22:04the short week, that the Bears baked into their decision when they worked him out pregame against the Green Bay Packers a
22:11couple of weeks ago before he returned last week against the Atlanta Falcons and played the way that he did, knowing that
22:18they had the short week against the New England Patriots this week.
22:21Again, he missed the three games. He came back last week, played very well, threw for over 300 yards, was emotionally fired up, you could see.
22:29And now it's just an extension of keeping him moving forward and starting and playing the full game Thursday night against the New England Patriots.
22:37Well, Adam, Drake May did not have to recover from an injury, but he did have to recover from a pretty big slump.
22:44He started the season in and talking to folks up in New England, and they said he was just pressing.
22:50He was trying to make a big play. He wasn't taking the stuff that the defense was giving him.
22:56And then the bad decisions and the mistakes just sort of snowballed on him.
23:01It sapped his confidence. And the only thing he could do was sort of work his way through it, one play at a time.
23:08They said it was nothing magical. He just had to focus on getting to the next play and making that a good play.
23:15And it has worked. In those first three games, the Patriots, the high score was 20 points.
23:20In the last three games, 29, 45, 26 points.
23:23So certainly he has rebounded. I wouldn't look too much at his stats because his completion percentage is still much lower than it was last year.
23:31But don't forget, he's played most of this season without A.J.
23:35Brown, who came back last week. He looked a little rusty.
23:38So as A.J. Brown works himself back into form, certainly you would think Drake May will continue to ascend.
23:44Judy, you mentioned that slump. They've got three straight wins, though, for those Patriots.
23:48The Niners, however, one of three unbeatens left this season.
23:51They're looking to start 7-0 for the fourth time in team history.
23:55They got a trip to Atlanta, where the Falcons are trying to avoid dropping their first four home games of the Kevin Stefanski era.
24:03The era before that, well, that was the Raheem Morris era.
24:06Who is now the defensive coordinator there in San Francisco.
24:09I mean, I think they – I don't think they can be more motivated.
24:13I mean, I think our guys are as motivated each week.
24:17I don't think they get too caught up in that stuff.
24:20But I know they care about Raheem a lot and definitely would want to do that for them.
24:26But I don't think we're looking at too much of a personal game like that.
24:30Well, nothing has been able to slow down these Niners yet this season, Mike G.
24:35But the health of Mike Evans is a concern after we saw him leave Monday Night Football with an Achilles issue.
24:42What is the latest on the Niners receiver? Achilles tendonitis for Mike Evans, which is what Christian McCaffrey battled a couple of years ago.
24:49Remember, that was sort of a week-to-week thing at one point.
24:52And that's sort of where this is as well.
24:55He didn't practice on Wednesday. They've got a bye coming up after this game.
25:00And I know a lot of us and some people that I talked to said, well, maybe he'll just sit out this
25:06game and then sit out the bye and that'll give him two straight weeks off.
25:11And it sounds all well and good, but that's not necessarily how the 49ers are approaching this.
25:16It's more or less, can he play this game?
25:19Does he feel good enough to play in this game?
25:22And we know how tough Mike Evans is, Sarah, and how competitive he is.
25:26So if he's got an opening to possibly get out there, he will.
25:30But they have to see how he manages that the rest of the week and if he can get himself game ready for Sunday.
25:38Yeah, we know he wants to get out there, Mike.
25:41He didn't want to get off the field last week.
25:44We saw him. Josh Jacobs is eligible to return this week for the Packers, who face the Lions.
25:50The running back has been taken off that commissioner's exempt list after missing the first six games of the season while the
25:56league was investigating violations of the personal conduct policy.
25:59Here's Matt LaFleur on the running back's return. I think a lot of times you get in a situation where you might not make the right decision.
26:08And I don't think that – I think people learn from their mistakes.
26:12And I think he's extremely remorseful. And I do believe that he is a good person.
26:17I've been around him quite a bit. And, you know, I just – I believe in second chances.
26:22Obviously, man, I'm remorseful and sorry for putting this team in this situation.
26:26You know, sometimes when you go through life, situations occur and a four-second, three-second decision, you know, can alter your life, honestly.
26:33But with that being said, man, I'm still a human being, man.
26:37Still trying to learn, still trying to grow from the whole process.
26:40I actually learned a lot throughout this process legally and just personally.
26:44But, yeah, man, going forward, man, I just try to be better.
26:48I know for some people this might be, you know, a stain on me and my character.
26:53I feel like I don't have to really speak on my character.
26:57A lot of people that know me in this locker room or that's been around me, I'll let them do that.
27:03But for me, man, I'm just trying to come back in here and play ball, learn from this mistake and move forward.
27:10Well, he's missed the first six games. James Schefter, what more can you tell us about Jacob's imminent return now?
27:16Well, he's back in the facility, back at practice, and I would fully expect that he'll play on Sunday against the Detroit Lions.
27:23He had been staying in shape. And you'll have to remember that when the NFL took him off the commissioner exemplus on
27:30Friday and said that he was allowed to return to the building on Monday, the league said it reserved the right to
27:37review any additional evidence that would surface. Everybody's still wondering about the video in this particular case.
27:42Nobody has seen it publicly. If and when that were to come out, the league would have the ability to go and
27:49discipline and suspend Josh Jacobs again if it weren't.
27:52The league left itself that option. But for the time being, he is allowed to play football, and that is the plan
27:59that he will play football on Sunday against the Detroit Lions.
28:02The Green Bay Packers feel like he served his time.
28:05He was on the commissioner exemplus for six games.
28:08He's back in the building now, and he'll be back on the field on Sunday, Sarah.
28:13Well, without him, the Packers have the NFL's worst rush offense being held to under 60 yards a game.
28:19Jacobs could be returning. Meanwhile, the team he's facing this week, the Lions, well, Sam Laporta could be on his way out of Detroit.
28:26The tight end was very candid on Barstool's part in my take today over his feelings of not being paid.
28:33Here's what he said. He said, I think the combination of getting your heartstrings twisted as well as the violent sport that we play, you know, it sucks.
28:41It's disappointing that you go out there every week and bear the risk of getting hurt.
28:46Like last year, I broke my effing back for the team, and then I'm going out there this year, and I'm bawling,
28:53and maybe they're just not showing the love. It sucks.
28:56I'm going to continue to be a pro. I'm going to continue to do my thing and bawl out.
29:02And in three months, if I don't get to wear the Honolulu blue and play for the Lions anymore, it's going to be all good.
29:10I'll go get paid somewhere else. So whatever. Schefter, he let his feelings be known.
29:14I don't know if my dramatic reading did him justice.
29:17What happens now? What happens now is he continues to play for that contract, and there's a lot on the line for Sam Laporte.
29:25You don't ordinarily hear players be that outspoken about their particular current contract situation.
29:29That's the spot he's in. He and the Lions have broken off talks.
29:33Every player has that option. He could have taken a deal that he didn't feel was fair.
29:38He opted to bet on himself. And if he keeps playing the way he has through the first part of the season
29:45and gets the free agency, he's going to be a $20 million-a-year tight end and really cash in.
29:51So he's in a good spot as long as he stays healthy and keeps producing.
29:55But he wore his feelings on his sleeve there, Sarah.
29:59So whatever. So whatever. Whatever would be nice if he went out and had a huge game after making that statement.
30:05Meanwhile, on Monday night, it's the Eagles hosting the Cowboys in an NFC showdown with both teams looking to get back on track.
30:12You can catch it at 8 Eastern on ABC, ESPN, or streaming on the Disney Plus or ESPN app.
30:18Now, for all the talk about the Cowboys' defense, their potent offense has been stifled these last two weeks.
30:24Dax got just one passing touchdown in each of his last four games.
30:28Jerry Jones at the owners' meetings earlier today. Not only do I have expectations, I have a really sound basis of saying
30:35we're better than that and we can improve in the areas that have really frustrated us, especially last week.
30:41What does the state of the NFC sort of affect their thinking ahead of their timeline?
30:46It gives me a lot of promise. I see opportunity.
30:49And I see it legitimately because I know the things that we have the potential to do, both with our talent, both with our schemes, adjustments.
30:57I've seen us do in the spring the kinds of adjustments that you might want to do between the halves.
31:03So, yeah, I'm frustrated and I'm disappointed that we're sitting here with this record.
31:07But I'm sure I know that we have in place.
31:10It's internal. It's from within. The mirrors is what everybody's got to look for.
31:15Judy, he sounded like a frustrated parent, right? I'm frustrated, but I believe in you.
31:19We heard him say potential. We heard him say promise.
31:22We heard him say talent. And the reality is the NFC East is still very much up for grabs.
31:28How do you expect Jerry to handle that trade deadline as it's approaching?
31:32Of course, Jerry was asked if they could be buyers at the trade deadline.
31:37And he said, yes, if they could help the team this season, which means Jerry is not surprisingly not giving up on the season.
31:44And he shouldn't be. You heard him address the question about what do you think when you look at the rest of the NFC East?
31:52And he sees promise. I mean, there is obviously the potential for the Cowboys to bounce back and to get back in
31:59the race and to catch the Giants at the top of the NFC East.
32:03He is obviously disappointed. And I thought he came across as surprised at how much his team is struggling.
32:09At the end of that session, I asked him if he foresaw any other personnel changes to the staff.
32:15They added Mike Pettin last week to try to give a boost to the defense.
32:19I said, any other changes, additions, subtractions anywhere on the staff?
32:23And he does not expect that. He said the Mike Pettin situation is unique because he has the previous relationship with defensive coordinator Christian Parker.
32:31And because he'd been around the team in the spring, so he already knew the personnel.
32:36So he said that was more about Mike Pettin than it was about what they are trying to do on defense.
32:42No additions to the staff. And we will see how far it can take the Dallas Cowboys, Mike.
32:48Elsewhere in the NFC East, when it comes to additions to the defensive staff, we've got one for you.
32:53Steve Wilks, another recognizable name, former head coach with the Arizona Cardinals.
32:57Cardinals in interim a couple of times and a defensive coordinator at a number of places.
33:02The commanders have hired him. It's a game planning role.
33:05He is there during the week under Dan Quinn and Durante Jones, the defensive coordinator.
33:10And this had been the plan for a little bit now.
33:13Really, since the start of the season, he was officially hired last week.
33:17Helped with the game planning ahead of the game against the 49ers, the team that he had coordinated recently in the last couple of years.
33:25So Steve Wilks is going to be a part of the team in Washington.
33:29As Dan Quinn, much as we talked about this, could be if they didn't perform well in San Francisco, maybe he might
33:36lose his job during the bye week. No, he's saying I'm still in command here and I'm still working for ways to make this operation better.
33:44Steve Wilks added to the mix. Yeah, they fought back on Monday night, but then there was still questionable snafus there in Washington.
33:51Meanwhile, the Chiefs are unbeaten and they might be about to get even stronger.
33:56We have a live report from Kansas City where the Super Bowl MVP is about to head back to his old stomping grounds.
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34:48Well, the unbeaten Chiefs get the defending Super Bowl champs this week in a Sunday night matchup.
34:53The Chiefs have all the momentum. Remember when people thought the Chiefs dynasty was over?
34:58Oh, they are back with a vengeance this year.
35:01And it might be getting even stronger. We welcome in Jeff Chedia from Kansas City.
35:05He was out at practice today. Mahomes feels like this undefeated team is only getting better right now.
35:11And when you look at the guys, Jeff, that they have coming back, it's hard to argue against him.
35:17Who is set to return for the Chiefs this week?
35:20Well, they're hoping they can start looking at Rasheed Rice, wide receiver, and left tackle Josh Simmons.
35:25The problem here from what I'm told from a team source is that both those players are still in a questionable place right now.
35:33Sarah, Rasheed Rice with that hamstring injury. And Josh Simmons has not played in the game all year because of a bulging disc in his back.
35:41So they want to see how things go this week.
35:44They're more encouraged about Rasheed Rice probably being able to get there because he's making good strides.
35:49But they need to have these players start getting healthy because this team has had a great start.
35:55They've also played one of the weakest schedules in the NFL so far.
35:59The combined record of their opponents is now 9-20.
36:01They've played two winless teams in the Chargers and the Dolphins.
36:05So they're about to face the Seahawks. They've got the Broncos coming up here.
36:09And they've got a really tough stretch after they get past the Jets and the Cardinals and the Falcons where the Bills
36:16and the Rams and the 49ers all start showing up.
36:19And so, tough stretch coming here. But one thing I'll say about this game coming up with Seattle, Kenneth Walker is going
36:26back to Seattle where he made his name. He's had a huge start to this season, a potential MVP candidate.
36:32And we were asking some players about how they felt about him going back.
36:36And they said the one thing about him, you cannot tell how he feels.
36:41He's not showing any emotion about any of this, even though it's a huge, huge opportunity for him to show what they missed when they let him walk.
36:49Yeah, you think about it. You're not going to let this guy, the Super Bowl MVP, leave.
36:55And he's had an even bigger season. The Broncos, by the way, were a game away from playing those Seahawks in the Super Bowl last year.
37:03Denver's still trying to regroup. Bo Nix has struggled to throw down the field this year.
37:08In three of the Broncos, four wins. He's had less than 200 yards passing.
37:12Mike, the Broncos want more from Nix. How do they get it?
37:16How do they get it? Well, they try different play colors.
37:19They try different terminology. He's got to let it rip from time to time.
37:23But that being said, he's playing winning football, and he played winning football last year.
37:28So there's a balance. Did we lose Mike G?
37:31We lost Mike G. We'll get him back. Mike G's never done talking.
37:35We're not going to let him be. Aaron Rodgers has done everything you could possibly do in his NFL career.
37:41But this weekend, a first for the quarterback. He's suiting up in Paris.
37:45We've got a preview from Paris next. Mike, call us back.
37:48The first ever game from Paris. It's the Steelers and the Saints.
37:52You can catch it right here on NFL Network, Sunday, 930 a.m.
37:56Eastern Time. You can also catch it streaming on the ESPN app.
38:00And, Judy, if there's one thing I know, it is that that plane ride to Paris got a lot more comfortable when
38:06you are packing to come from behind. Overtime win against Tampa that Aaron Rodgers engineered.
38:11I know you talked to those within the organization this week.
38:14How are the Steelers feeling? The Steelers are feeling pretty good.
38:18Let's start with the fact that the game is a full go, according to the league in Paris.
38:23There is some unrest in Paris over the last few weeks.
38:27But the NFL is very confident in its security procedures.
38:30We asked Roger Goodell about it today, and he said he is very comfortable.
38:34He was getting on a plane tonight to head to Paris himself for the game.
38:39So it is all systems go for the game on Sunday in Paris.
38:43As for how the Steelers are feeling, I caught up with team owner Art Rooney this week during the owners' meetings.
38:49And I said, what do you think about your team right now?
38:53And his face lit up, and he said, pretty good.
38:56Like, yeah, pretty good. No surprise that they feel that way.
39:00Aaron Rodgers has really come on very strong, especially in the last few weeks.
39:04He leads the league in completions, passing yards, and passing touchdowns.
39:07They've got a running attack with Jalen Warren. They have really started to come around as an offense.
39:13And let's face it, this is what the Steelers were hoping for when they paired Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers in what
39:20it turns out is going to be his final year of professional football, that Mike would be able to decipher what Aaron
39:27Rodgers is comfortable with now, put him in position to succeed.
39:30They've got some really good wide receivers, although, quite frankly, they're pretty banged up.
39:34I think right now they've got only three healthy wide receivers on the roster and the defense.
39:40Of course, it's the Pittsburgh Steelers. It's a top 10 defense.
39:43So right now, everything is coming together. You're right.
39:46They had that overtime victory over the Bucs, and that certainly makes everything look better.
39:50But right now, things are coming together nicely for the Steelers.
39:54They are in a dogfight in that division, but a very good time to take a trip to Europe if you're the Pittsburgh Steelers.
40:01Judy, I think it's always a good time to take a trip to Europe, but that's just me.
40:07Vibes are good around the Steelers. Meanwhile, it has been a tough week for the Colts.
40:12Their latest loss resulted in GM Chris Ballard being fired this week.
40:16It's got them trying to do something now that nobody has done yet this season, and that is beat the Vikings.
40:22Shane Steichen on how this week has been handled.
40:25Yeah, they've responded well. I mean, obviously, we're in a new week.
40:29But, again, whether we win or lose, we always meet on Mondays after the team meeting.
40:33You know, things we did well in the game, things we need to improve on, you know, get their thoughts, get their pulse on things.
40:41And we have conversations, you know, every week to go over, you know, everything that's going on.
40:46Shane, how much pressure do you feel personally to deliver as the head coach for this team after laughing to Chris, and does that ratchet up after?
40:55Yeah, I think there's pressure in this league every year regardless of circumstances.
40:59And as the head coach, you've got to lead this team.
41:02You've got to empower your players. You've got to guide them every single day and put them in position.
41:08And that's the way I look at it is put your head down and go to work, and that's all you can do.
41:15Mike G back with us, thankfully. The Colts are 2-11.
41:18If you go back to last season's bye for them, Chris Ballard is gone.
41:23What does Shane Steichen have to do now to stay in Indy past this season?
41:27Win games, make the playoffs. And I think that there's an opportunity to do that because, you know, it was a message
41:34to the fan base that everything that has happened to this point is just not good enough.
41:39That's what Carly Ursi Gordon was basically communicating. The fact that she didn't fire Shane Steichen tells you that she believes she's got a good head coach here.
41:48Now, can he mount a case to stay in this role beyond 2027?
41:52That's TBD. We've got to see what happens down the stretch.
41:56If he does, with a new general manager keeping Shane Steichen, I think that is a realistic possibility.
42:01And I think there are a lot of people around the league that think if he gets fired, he'd have a shot
42:08at another head coaching job somewhere else, at the very least offensive coordinator gigs of his choosing.
42:13So I'm looking for Shane Steichen to make a push here.
42:17Mount a case to be the Colts coach in 2027.
42:20That is not off the board as far as I'm concerned.
42:23Yeah, and now mounting a case, though, comes with having to go to Minnesota and a team that has been absolutely rolling.
42:30Also rolling to Sean Watson. He's got his Browns in control and a tightly contested AFC North.
42:35We're going to hear from Todd Munkin next on the Insiders.
42:39Here's a look at your AFC North standings, a tight one.
42:42Three teams are at four and two. The Bengals are a game back.
42:46The Browns just beat the Ravens. They come from behind victory to take control.
42:50And now they get a trip to Nashville to take on a Titans team, trying to win back-to-back games for the first time since 22.
42:58Mike G., if I would have told you before this season started that it would be week seven and I would say
43:05Deshaun Watson and the Browns have control of this division right now, what do you make of what's happening in Cleveland?
43:11Nope, nope. I'm not falling for that, Sarah. Oh, here we are.
43:15How about that one? What do I make of it?
43:18I make Deshaun Watson now setting up a really interesting scenario after this season.
43:23And I say interesting because Jimmy Haslam said, well, we took a big swing and a miss with the quarterback.
43:29Remember that quote? Now they might have to re-sign that guy in the offseason.
43:33I mean, it's hard to find a quarterback in this league regardless of draft situation, salary cap.
43:38Like, they're just not easy to come by. And the way he's playing now, take everything else out of it, the way
43:45he's playing now is a guy that you would extend.
43:48So it's kind of sort of where we're heading here.
43:51But for now, the Browns is hoping that everything keeps moving in the right direction with Watson, the offense, with Todd Munkin
43:58and his team, and they make the gas playoffs.
44:01We'll see. You know what, Mike? It's actually crazy that only the Browns, they could be winning, and it makes the quarterback
44:08situation complicated as to what you do there. Meanwhile, the Dolphins are still looking for their first win of the Jeff Halfley era.
44:15The Dolphins have won six of their last seven against the Jets, but Malik Bliss has struggled as Miami's starter.
44:21Judy, what kind of opportunity do the Jets have in front of them this week?
44:26Well, I'll just tell you, I caught up with some folks at the Jets over the last week, and one person said
44:32to me, we better beat the Dolphins. We should have beaten the New England Patriots.
44:37So there's an awful lot of optimism all of a sudden in the Jets building.
44:42They know they've got some game operation stuff they've got to clean up, but they are feeling really good about where this
44:49team is headed and headed into a very big offseason for the Jets.
44:53Judy, Mike, thanks. That does it for us. We'll be back here on Friday with the Insiders.
44:58Enjoy Thursday night football. It's going to be the Bears hosting the Patriots.
45:02We're back with you on Friday. See you, everybody.
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