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10 Players We Can’t Stop Drafting

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49 min
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Estimated from transcript
Aug 3, 2026
Published
Mon, August 3, 2026
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Kenneth Walker IIIMike EvansBaker MayfieldBrock PurdyCaleb WilliamsChris OlaveColston LovelandDe'Zhaun StriblingDeebo SamuelDeVonta SmithJosh AllenKenneth GainwellLamar JacksonRicky Pearsall
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Baker Mayfield

NegativeProjection23:59

Matthew Berry ranks Baker Mayfield at QB21, noting concerns about the Buccaneers' offense without Mike Evans and the inconsistency of other pass-catchers. While he acknowledges Mayfield's volume, he prefers Tyler Shuck due to Shuck's rushing ability.

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Brock Purdy

PositiveProjection44:55

Matthew Berry expresses confidence in Brock Purdy for the upcoming season, suggesting he and Mike Evans will develop a strong connection that benefits fantasy production.

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Caleb Williams

PositiveProjection46:15

Caleb Williams is expected to make the Bears interesting this year, with the hosts drawing a comparison to Joe Burrow's second-year success, despite this being Williams' third year.

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Chris Olave

PositiveValue18:43

Matthew Berry is high on Chris Olave, ranking him as WR14 and 30th overall. The four-year, $132 million extension signals long-term health and usage confidence, alleviating concerns from his 2024 injury-plagued season.

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Colston Loveland

PositiveBreakout33:50

Matthew Berry is very bullish on Colston Loveland, ranking him as the TE3 (38th overall) compared to his 42 ADP. Berry cites his strong finish to the season, where he averaged 20+ fantasy points in games with a 20% target share, and expects a big year in the Bears' offense under Ben Johnson.

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De'Zhaun Stribling

PositiveBreakout16:15

Deshaun Stribling is rising up draft boards and gaining opportunity in the 49ers offense due to injuries to teammates. Matthew Berry ranks him as WR62.

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Deebo Samuel

PositiveRole13:34

Matthew Berry and Lawrence Jackson note that with Ricky Pearsall on IR and Mike Evans missing training camp time, Deebo Samuel's role in the 49ers offense is more important. Despite a down 2024 (WR47 in PPG), his familiarity with Kyle Shanahan's complex offense and Brock Purdy makes him a viable fantasy asset; Berry ranks him as WR52.

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DeVonta Smith

PositiveUsage28:37

Matthew Berry ranks Devontae Smith at WR12 (27th overall), well above his 34 ADP, expecting a monster season as the Eagles' alpha receiver. Berry notes that Smith averages over 19 fantasy points per game when seeing a 30% target share and over 80 yards in games with 7+ targets. He expects the offense to pass more under Sean Mannion, creating more volume for Smith.

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Josh Allen

PositiveValue46:16

Josh Allen is mentioned as a key factor for the Bills, who are considered one of the favorites to reach the Super Bowl with odds around 10-to-1.

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Kenneth Gainwell

PositiveValue35:13

Lawrence Jackson and Matthew Berry view Kenneth Gainwell as a value pick in PPR leagues, noting his 73 receptions last year and expected role in the Bucs' offense following Mike Evans' departure. While Bucky Irving is considered the lead back, Berry reports that team sources expect Gainwell to be used in multiple ways, making him a viable flex play.

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Kenneth Walker III

PositiveValue21:56

Matthew Berry ranks Kenneth Walker at 14 overall and RB8, significantly higher than his consensus ADP of 20 overall (RB11). Berry expects a monster year, citing the team's financial commitment to him as a focal point, and dismisses concerns about a committee or vulture situation, noting Andy Reid's history of making lead backs fantasy-relevant.

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PositiveBreakout33:55

Matthew Berry ranks Kenneth Walker III as RB8 (14th overall), significantly higher than his consensus ADP of 20. Berry cites his elite efficiency (3rd highest rate of 10+ yard runs) and the Chiefs' high-volume red zone offense as reasons for a projected monster season as the clear focal point.

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Lamar Jackson

PositiveProjection46:00

The hosts project a strong season for Lamar Jackson, expecting him to get back on track and stay healthy as part of a potential Super Bowl run for the Ravens.

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Mike Evans

PositiveValue42:02

Matthew Berry ranks Mike Evans at 25 overall (WR25), significantly higher than his 61+ ADP. Berry compares Evans to Davante Adams, expecting him to be the primary red-zone threat for the 49ers. He notes Evans' high efficiency on 50-50 balls and expects him to thrive in a high-scoring offense, especially with Ricky Pearsall out and George Kittle's status uncertain.

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PositiveValue44:30

Matthew Berry remains a consistent target for Mike Evans in fantasy drafts, noting that as long as he is in the NFL, he is a must-draft player. Berry views him as a high-end WR2 with significant goal-line upside, stating that no one has proven they can stop him in the end zone.

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Ricky Pearsall

NegativeInjury13:24

Ricky Pearsall has been placed on injured reserve and will miss the entire season due to a knee injury.

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Saquon Barkley

PositiveValue29:48

Matthew Berry and Lawrence Jackson are both targeting Saquon Barkley. Despite a down 2024, he remained a top-15 RB in PPG. With a better offensive line, a new offensive coordinator, and a favorable schedule (nine games against bottom-12 defenses), Berry ranks him as RB7 (13th overall), higher than his consensus ADP of 16.

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Tyler Warren

NegativeProjection32:32

Lawrence Jackson notes that while Tyler Warren's production dipped in his last nine games, it correlated with Daniel Jones' performance. Jackson projects Warren for 800-900 yards and 75 catches, suggesting he could lead the Colts in receptions, especially with Michael Pittman gone and a 28% red zone target share.

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Zay Flowers

PositiveProjection25:07

Lawrence Jackson highlights Zay Flowers' 29% target share and WR9 utilization score from last year, noting he is one of only nine wide receivers to record 200+ PPR points in each of the last three seasons. Jackson expects a breakout toward an elite tier, supported by a favorable schedule against bottom-12 defenses and explicit intent from Lamar Jackson and the coaching staff to get him the ball.

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Episode Transcript

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0:00It is noon on YouTube, but it's 5 o'clock somewhere.
0:03So you're probably wondering, all right, set looks kind of different.
0:07What's going on? So just want to kind of level set everything.
0:11First off, welcome back. Welcome back to all the regulars.
0:14Welcome back to everyone. Thank you. If this is your first time tuning into the show or if you've been with me since the Talented Mr.
0:22Roto days, ESPN, NBC, now to this, I appreciate everyone.
0:25So thank you so much. So I, as people are, if you've followed me at all for any amount of time, you
0:33know that when I left ESPN, one of the reasons I did so is because I love ESPN, right?
0:39I still love ESPN. Great relationship. Root for those guys all the time.
0:43But I left ESPN at the time because I wanted to pursue fantasy life and the management, they're no longer there.
0:50But the management that was at ESPN at the time that I left was like, you can't be at both places.
0:56If you want to do fantasy life, you have to leave.
1:00So I chose to leave. And NBC, incredibly gracious, says, come over here and we'll let you do fantasy life.
1:06And so that was my plan was I was going to go to NBC, be part of football night in America, launch
1:13fantasy football, happy hour and grow fantasy life. Which because when I left ESPN, it was, you know, it was basically a newsletter.
1:21That was all it was. And and that's what's happened over the last four years.
1:26We've grown fantasy life and it's done incredibly well, so much so that I feel like it can now, you know, this
1:33was kind of the plan all along was that I could come and, you know, make a go of it.
1:39You know, I had an amazing four years at NBC, love them, still root for them, still many friends at NBC.
1:46But, you know, at the end of the day, honestly, for me, as a fantasy football guy, once you do a Super
1:53Bowl, I'm sort of like, well, what else is there?
1:56You know, I mean, I got to do a Super Bowl with NBC last year, did a number of NFL playoff games,
2:03you know, Sunday Night Football for four years. Incredible, awesome experience.
2:07Amazing. We'll always thank them for that. But I felt like that at this point, the only thing left to do was
2:14to be on my own, to to try to, you know, continue to grow fantasy life.
2:19And so the show. So that's what's going on with me is I'm at fantasy life full time for the for the first time in my career.
2:28Honestly, for the first time in my career, everything that I do is at one place.
2:33You're not going to have to. Oh, we'll go over here for this.
2:37But then this you have to watch this here.
2:40So everything's going to be at fantasylife.com. All my columns, all my rankings, all my shows.
2:45So this show is being produced by Fantasy Life.
2:48And, you know, and we've got some more fun announcements coming down the pike in terms of both play other places.
2:55You'll be able to see me and and watch my content and watch this show.
3:00But for now, right now, this show is going to be obviously wherever you get your podcasts and live right here on
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3:10Right. So so I'm very excited about that, about sort of the opportunity here.
3:14Right. And yes, Brandon saying, welcome back, regulars. Absolutely.
3:17Welcome back to everyone. Thank you so much. The last thing I'll just I'll just say just about the show in general.
3:24Right. Is that the show is obviously going to be a little bit different.
3:29When I left NBC, the show came with me, obviously, as you can tell.
3:33But unfortunately, not everyone is able to come with me.
3:36A lot of the people that I work with on the show are still under contract.
3:41Jay, Connor, Lawrence, they're all still under contract NBC.
3:44And so they're going to be guesting with me occasionally.
3:48They'll pop on as guests. But unfortunately, we were not able to keep the band together.
3:53Business being what it is. Having said all that, having said all that, so, you know, I'm hoping you guys will, you
4:00know, grant me a little bit of grace here as the show is going to be a little bit different.
4:06Right now. And listen, raise the flag saying this isn't Mary's home bar behind not enough white wine.
4:12That's very true. Pinot Maddy is not happy with the current selection, but we're working on the bar.
4:18Raise the flags. We're working on the bar. We're working on the set.
4:22We're working on everything. I'm sort of driving the ship as we're building it.
4:27But I think it'll be fun and I appreciate you guys coming along for the ride.
4:32And so at least I think when we get to September, when the season starts, the show will be a little bit
4:39different than what you're going to see right now.
4:42But here in the preseason, what it's going to be is me and some of my friends.
4:47Right. And every day it'll be a new friend, some familiar, some from NBC, some from ESPN, some from the world of
4:54fantasy football, some from the world of the NFL.
4:57And let's start with one of those friends right now.
5:00Obviously, if we're doing fantasy football happy hour, I wanted to start the show off with one of my guys.
5:07And that's Lord Don't Lose, Lawrence Jackson. There he is.
5:10There's my guy, Lawrence. Thank you for doing the show, my friend.
5:14So NBC Sports is Lawrence Jackson. I don't want anyone to get mad at me.
5:19I don't want anyone to get mad at me.
5:22So, you know, you can obviously check out, follow Lawrence on all forms of social media at Lord Don't Lose.
5:28And of course, all of his stuff is over at NBC Sports dot com or Rotor World dot com.
5:34How are you, my friend? Good to see you.
5:37I'm good, man. And same to you, man. Just, you know, getting through this summer.
5:42And as you know, the reason we really here is because it's that time it's in the air.
5:48Football's coming up. I still got a few more trips to to get on out of the way before I fully dive into it.
5:55I'm actually going to Disney tomorrow with my family.
5:58But, you know, what other way to, you know.
6:01And Universal Studios, I'm sure. I'm sure Universal Studios as well.
6:05Lawrence, you got to be a company man. Oh, you already know I'm using every type of perk I could get, man.
6:12So, yeah, man. But what better way to perceive that than, you know, hop on the new edition of Fantasy Hour with the new bar.
6:20I see some Hennessy back there, too, now. Yeah.
6:23This is a true story, by the way. This is a true story.
6:27I don't know if I'm allowed to tell, but I'm going to tell it anyway.
6:32So one there was one night that I ended up.
6:35Yeah, I'm going to tell the story. All right.
6:38So I'll just it's very funny whenever you say Hennessy.
6:41Right. Like I was once talking with Shane Battier.
6:44Right. Shane Battier tells me the story. And he said that Greg Oden.
6:48You remember Greg Oden? Right. Yes, of course. Great.
6:51Greg Oden. That Greg Oden's favorite drink was Patronacy, which was Patron and Hennessy, like just mixing them together.
6:57And you're looking at me like, oh, that sounds gross.
7:00I can tell you it is gross. I tried it.
7:04We were all like we got to do this for Greg.
7:07So we were we were at a bar and we all ordered like, you know, shots Patron and Hennessy and put it together.
7:15And it was it was disgusting. But apparently that is Greg Oden's favorite drink, according to Shane.
7:20So sorry, Shane, if I wasn't supposed to tell that story.
7:24That that might explain a lot of things. Yeah.
7:27Anyway, Shane is a great guy. Shane's a great guy.
7:30I've never met Greg, but I was just like, you know, listen, you get a chance to do that drink.
7:36You might as well do it once. Right. All right.
7:39So here's what we're going to do for the show.
7:43Lawrence, to me and you, I got a little bit of news at the top that I want to get your reaction to as well.
7:51But we're going to talk today about the 10 players we can't stop drafting.
7:55You took five. I took five. And so we've all the best ball drafts we've done so far.
8:01It's got fishbowl. I've done some early drafts. Who are the five players that you are drafting the most this year?
8:08And I'll give you my five as well. But first off, let's talk a little bit of news.
8:14Debo Samuel, our friend of the podcast, Debo Samuel.
8:16He's been on the show twice. Debo Samuel back to the 49ers.
8:20It's a one year deal. Ricky Pearsall, of course, placed on injured reserve.
8:24Unfortunately, he's out for the year with that knee injury.
8:28So I'm just curious what you think about Debo here, Lawrence.
8:31Like last year, he was wide receiver 30 on a points per game basis.
8:36But if you remember, it was mostly because Terry McLaurin was hurt a lot and it was literally he was like the only guy they had.
8:44The fact is that the last time that he was in San Francisco, 2024, he was wide receiver 47 on a points per game basis.
8:52I'm curious what you think. Is this like more of a depth signing for the 49ers or could Debo Samuel be a fantasy asset this year?
9:01What an interesting thing you said about 2024, Matthew, is him finishing his wide receiver 47 compared to wide receiver 30 last year.
9:08I think the difference there was the early touchdowns that he got in the red zone.
9:13And so now he's back with the 49ers. Ricky Pearsall out for the season.
9:18Now we have Mike Evans who will be out for the rest of training caps.
9:22So now Debo Samuel becomes just a little bit more important.
9:26And we all know he knows the offense. He's you know, he comes in already as the veteran in the group.
9:33They lost Jawan Jennings. So, you know, you're looking at Debo.
9:36You're looking at the rookie that, you know, everybody criticized the 49ers for drafting Deshaun Stribling, you know.
9:42So, I mean, for now, at least, like he's got to have some type of road just because of him being familiar with that team in that offense.
9:51Yeah, certainly, you know, Stribbeling is somebody who's rising up draft boards.
9:55I mean, I have Stribbeling at wide receiver 62, so let's not get crazy.
9:59But again, like there's an opportunity here, to your point, about the fact that, you know, this is we think this is
10:07going to be one of the better offenses in the NFL.
10:10We like Brock Purdy. And there's just not that many guys out there that are going to catch the ball.
10:17You know, I wonder if they sign someone. I mean, they signed Debo.
10:21I wonder if there's another signing to come, right, with losing Ricky Pearsall for the season.
10:26But to your point, you know, again, we're waiting for Kittle to come back.
10:30Who knows when that actually happens. We'll talk about Mike Evans a little bit later.
10:35He's actually, believe it or not, he's one of my guys that I can't stop drafting.
10:40So, we're going to talk about him coming up a little bit later in the show here.
10:46But ultimately, I think I don't mind a flyer on Debo, to your point, because, again, it should be a very easy learning curve.
10:54As Stribling gets up to speed, Evans gets up to speed, you know, Shanahan's offense is fairly complicated.
10:59And so, Debo does have that familiarity with Brock Purdy and with Kyle's offense.
11:04So, again, I have him at wide receiver 52 right now.
11:07That's where I have him in my ranks. So, and I'm Stribling at wide receiver 62.
11:13But, again, it's just sort of something to keep an eye on there.
11:17All right, I want to get into, this isn't, it's not really a news item for us in fantasy here, right?
11:23But Chris Olave signs a four-year, $132 million extension through 2030.
11:27Jordan Tyson is back from the hamstring injury, so he's fine.
11:31He's practicing. In general, Lawrence, I'm pretty high on this Saints offense.
11:34I think there's a lot of fantasy value. I think people are sort of like, I think unless you had Chris Olave
11:41last year, he still has that, oh, this is a guy that always gets injured, right?
11:47You're not spending that kind of money if you have any long-term concerns about his health.
11:52Overall, I'm just, I wanted to use this as an excuse to talk about the Saints offense a little bit here.
11:59Lawrence, I like me some Chris Olave this year.
12:01And I like Jordan Tyson and, you know, Tyler Shuck I'm very, very high on.
12:06But I have Olave at wide receiver 14. I have him 30th overall.
12:10And I have Tyson at wide receiver 30th, 60-3rd overall in my ranks.
12:15Again, they're on FantasyLife.com. I'm a company man. When you look at the totality of this Saints offense, right, I feel like
12:22we're going to get surprisingly a lot of passing volume.
12:25It's just like kind of like Bo Nix in his second year, led the league in passing attempts per game.
12:31I think we could see that out of Tyler Shuck.
12:35You look at the kind of players they have.
12:38Look at their running backs. Travis Achan, right? They still got Alvin Kamara.
12:42They still got, they got. I'm not in on Achan.
12:45I'm not in on pronouncing his name that way.
12:48I'm just saying, I know what he said. I'm just saying, I think it's ETN.
12:53No one's asking me. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm just like, no, I'm not saying out on the player.
12:58I'm just out on the pronunciation. Like, no, you have to do it when you first come to the league.
13:05Like, that's what Devon Achan did. Devon Achan, like, he was A-chain and then he had the big game and he asked, he said A-chan.
13:13Yeah. Devon A-chan. But, yeah, A-T-N, like, you're like, how do you get A-chan out of that?
13:18No, I'm sorry. I don't know. I don't know.
13:21But when you look at, like, you look at ETN, A-chan, we'll just call them Travis, right?
13:27But you got him. You got Kamara. Those are two running backs that are known for catching the ball out of the backfield.
13:34Both guys could even get in the slot sometimes.
13:37So you got a lot of pass catchers in this offense headed by Chris Olave.
13:42And the contract should make you feel, especially if you're a dynasty manager with Chris Olave, that contract should make you feel
13:49a lot better about his situation going forward. Because just in 2024, people were talking about, like, is this dude going to play football again?
13:57Well, I think he is for $132 million. So I like Chris Olave, even as the wide receiver one on my team,
14:04if I could come out first with, like, a top running back or two.
14:09Or if he's my wide receiver two. I like him in that instance.
14:13But I expect a lot of passing volume out of Tyler Shuck in this offense.
14:18I love Tyler Shuck. He is one of my favorite sleepers this year as kind of a late-round quarterback.
14:24You know, people forget this is a guy that was top 10 in fantasy points per game once he became the starter
14:31over the second half of the year. I see my old friend Aloha Bricks chiming in.
14:36He wants to know Baker Mayfield or Tyler Shuck.
14:39I say Shuck. I have Shuck at 17. I have Baker at 21.
14:43Shuck runs. Shuck runs more than you think. And I am a little nervous about this Buccaneers offense.
14:49We love Baker Mayfield, right? We love Baker Mayfield.
14:52But I'm a little nervous about this Bucs offense without Mike Evans.
14:56You know, Abuka. Like, just – we haven't seen Chris Godwin get back to being Chris Godwin yet.
15:01Hopefully he's fully healthy. But, like, Abuka was inconsistent last year.
15:05I'm hearing great reports about Ted Hurst, by the way.
15:08I think he's going to be a thing at some point this year.
15:12But I don't know, Lawrence. So, quarterback, I will say.
15:16But when you sit here and you go like, wow, you have Baker Mayfield at 21.
15:21I mean, quarterback is insanely deep this year. Insanely deep.
15:24Yeah. Yeah. And again, Baker Mayfield, another quarterback who's going to give you – I think him – matter of fact, I
15:31think that's a good question by Aloha Bridge because both of them should – they both got past catching running backs.
15:38They both going to throw the hell out of the football.
15:41So, it's a really good one to talk about.
15:44Tim Pritzker, 9671, says Matthew should change his last name to Beret, like the French hat.
15:49I like that. That should be. Hey, welcome to Fantasy Football Happy Hour with Matthew Berry.
15:55Take that, Travis A. Chan. If you change it to Matthew Beret, that's closer than ETN is to A.
16:01Chan. And furthermore, his brother, Trevor – I'm sorry.
16:04Yeah, Trevor ETN on the Carolina Panthers, he still goes by ETN if I'm not mistaken.
16:09Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah. So, we got to get the – next time they're at Thanksgiving, like you guys got to come up with a name.
16:18So, that's the Saints. We like the Saints. And then one last here, just a small thing here.
16:24I don't know if you saw this, Lawrence, but DeAndre Hopkins has been hired as an assistant wide receivers coach at Georgia Tech.
16:31I know him. I've interviewed him multiple times. He's awesome.
16:34He's just an awesome human being. Obviously, an amazing wide receiver.
16:38Over 1,000 receptions for his career, if this is it.
16:41And hopefully not. But if it is, over 1,000 receptions, over 13,000 yards, 85 receiving touchdowns, seven different years with over 1,000 receiving yards.
16:49He is top 20 all time in receptions, receiving yards, and receiving touchdowns.
16:53Five different years, he finished as a top five fantasy wide receiver in points per game.
16:58He is a fantasy football legend. He's an awesome human being.
17:02So, just much love and good luck to DeAndre Hopkins.
17:05And we'll see what happens with Georgia Tech or his career if he ends up playing again in the NFL.
17:11I hope he does. But if not, just want to give a quick shout out and salute to DeAndre Hopkins.
17:18And I think what he'll be known for best, you know, when it comes up for his Hall of Fame time is
17:25that he was able to do it with anybody.
17:28He did it with all these different quarterbacks. He finally, he got Deshaun Watson in his early years.
17:33But DeAndre Hopkins was a guy who did it with the first string, the second string, and the third string quarterbacks.
17:40And he still put up those numbers. All right, Lawrence, let's start with this.
17:45And these are our 10 players that we can't stop drafting.
17:48Our 10 players that we can't stop drafting. And number one for you, Saquon Barkley.
17:53I agree with this. Saquon Barkley. But talk to me a little bit about Saquon, who is coming off of a down year for him.
18:01Yeah. And we're talking in the reason I'm talking about him here because I hell, I just saw him go in the
18:08second round of a draft of a bunch of fantasy football analysts.
18:12So it's the second round price for me, Matthew, which was the same as 2024 before he would rush for those 2000 yards.
18:19The interesting thing here, right, is despite the down year, he was, I guess, not guess.
18:25He still was a top 15 running back in fantasy points per game last year.
18:29The problem is that's not what we drafted him to be.
18:33But he still was a guy you had to start every weekend.
18:37Last year, Matthew, averaged 17 and a half carries last year compared to 2024, 21 and a half carries.
18:43That is a significant amount when you talk about the touches.
18:46Because if you just give him a number that's in between that 19 and a half, he's rushing for almost 1300 yards.
18:54The good thing about him this year, too, Matthew, he's got nine games this year versus teams that were bottom 12 defenses this year.
19:01A lot of those are in the NFC East, your commanders included.
19:05I'm sorry, but Saquon Barkley got a nice schedule coming up, got a new offensive coordinator.
19:10A.J. Brown's out the door, so that's one less star that you have to worry about getting those touches.
19:16He's only going to get you around 35 receptions, but that's baked in.
19:21We know that going in. We're depending on him getting those 20 carries a game, and we're depending on him getting back to breaking those long runs.
19:29Yeah, you know what? I mean, look, all the same things that, you know, I think we're on the same page here, right?
19:37You know, I'm a believer that, just overall, I'm a believer that the Eagles' offense is going to be a lot better this year under Sean Mannion, right?
19:46You know, the new offensive coordinator coming from Green Bay.
19:49I think, you know, again, we talked about the offensive line and how they should be a lot healthier this year.
19:56So, you know, I'm excited about that. You know, last year, just again, the problem with Saquon is he didn't have the long runs, you know?
20:04And so, I think with a better offensive line, like, I think the guy's still explosive.
20:09I think it'll be a more, you know, pass-heavy attack as well.
20:13So, we're in agreement on Saquon Barkley, by the way.
20:16I'm at running back seven, 13th overall. His current ADP, he's going at running back eight.
20:21His consensus ADP is like, you know, 15-16. So, the fact, again, I'm slightly higher on him than consensus.
20:28I'm at 13 versus 16, RB7 versus RB8. For me, Lawrence, one of the guys, speaking of running backs, give me Ken Walker.
20:35Give me K9. Give me KW3. Pick your nickname, whichever it is.
20:39But this is somebody who I believe. Look, think about this.
20:42When this guy is healthy, he is one of the best running backs in football, right?
20:47He's had 25 career games, kind of 25 career games with at least 18 touches, including the playoffs.
20:53In those games, he averages over 18 fantasy points per game, over 110 yards from scrimmage.
20:58And then you think about last year, how the explosiveness, right?
21:0215% of his rushes last season gained 10 or more yards.
21:06That was the third highest rate, right? The third highest rate among running backs with at least 100 carries.
21:12And in the Mahomes era, in the Mahomes era, the Kansas City Chiefs have been top 10 in red zone drives in all but one year.
21:20So there's going to be scoring opportunities. And how many times, Lawrence, would you and I be watching football on Sundays and
21:27we would sit there and we'd go like, why are they bringing in Kareem Hunt?
21:32Why are they letting him do this? I think, especially when you think about how much money they spent on Ken Walker.
21:39I'm a big, you know, follow the money, right?
21:42And so this is a Chiefs team that obviously has Super Bowl aspirations, as they do every single year.
21:48So why not go get the Super Bowl MVP?
21:51And so I'm just, I have him at 14 overall, Ken Walker, as running back eight.
21:56His consensus ADP is going basically 20th overall. I'm at 14 overall.
22:00And he's going as running back 11. Again, I'm at running back eight.
22:04So Ken Walker is somebody that I'm higher on than consensus.
22:08He's usually the first running back that I draft, you know, if I go wide receiver in the first round.
22:14And I just think he's going to have a monster year.
22:18I just think them paying him the money they did to make him the focal point.
22:23I'm not worried about any kind of, there's no vulture situation.
22:26There's not going to be any running back by committee.
22:30He's going to get a big workload. That's why they paid him.
22:33That's why they brought him in. And so when Andy Reid has committed to a running back, which he clearly is doing
22:40here, when Andy Reid is committing to a running back, that running back.
22:45I mean, like, listen, we should not know the name Sharkandrick West, but we do.
22:50Lawrence? He has some good games, too. He did.
22:52He did. That's my point. That's my point, Lawrence.
22:55He did have some good games. Yes, sir. And so thank you, Ryan Oswald.
23:00Someone has to do the running on KC. Mahomes isn't doing that anymore.
23:04Fair enough. He'll probably be a little more careful.
23:07But, yeah, I just, you know what I mean?
23:10Like, when you think about Spencer Ware, when you think about all the obscure running backs that Andy Reid has made fantasy relevant.
23:17Spencer Ware. Wow. Spencer Ware. That was a thousand yard back at some point.
23:22I'm just saying. I'm just saying. So, yeah, Ken Walker.
23:25I'm all in on Ken Walker. Lawrence, your thoughts, my friend?
23:28Yeah, I mean, look, why not go there, right?
23:31That playoff run that Kenneth Walker had, that's where he showed, like, hey, I could be the guy.
23:37I don't have to, you know, split touches with another guy who was drafted in the second round like myself.
23:44And you brought up Kareem Hunt. There was a game last year, not two years ago, last year.
23:49This man had 29 carries. And I think at that point, Andy Reid was saying to himself, he was like, you know what?
23:57I think it's time we go get us a running back for real so we could give him those 29 carries.
24:04And all of those, Kareem Hunt led the team in rushing touchdowns last year.
24:08That's going to be all Ken Walker. It's not going to be a split backfield, like you said, because they still did,
24:15you know, try to put Pacheco and, you know, get him in there every once in a while.
24:21But anytime Kenneth Walker is off the field this year, it'll be to be spelled.
24:26He's going to get a quick cup of that Gatorade.
24:29And he's going to get back on that field and get them carries.
24:33All right, Lawrence, we are going to break now.
24:36So just so you know, the show is available wherever you get your podcasts, obviously, and here on YouTube.
24:42If you're, you know, we're doing it live every day, but we'll also be on demand as it always is.
24:49YouTube, hang tight. But audio will be right back after these words.
24:52All right, we are back. Did Diet Coke spill, regulars?
24:56I don't know. Have to wait and see for the extended behind-the-scenes cut.
25:00But we are back here with Lawrence Jackson at Lord Don't Lose from NBC Sports, talking about the players we can't stop drafting.
25:07And one of them for you, Lawrence, is Zay Flowers.
25:11Yeah, so Zay Flowers. I mean, when you talk about being tied for wide receiver 12 and fantasy points per game with C.D.
25:18Lamb, that should get people's antennas up, right? And this year, we talk about, I talked about Saquon Barkley's schedule a little earlier.
25:25Well, when you look at the Ravens' schedule, they have eight games this year.
25:30Eight. That's half of their games in almost a whole full fantasy season.
25:34Eight games versus bottom 12 defenses from last year.
25:37Now, obviously, teams made, you know, teams made moves.
25:40Like the Bengals got Dexter Lawrence to help that terrible pass defense.
25:44But Dexter Lawrence ain't gonna wreck every single play.
25:47Are these guys really gonna stop a player in Zay Flowers who their new head coach, Jesse Misters, said, we want to
25:54get him the ball as much as possible? Lamar Jackson said, I want this guy to have a great year.
26:00In fact, he said he want him to break records.
26:03So I think they're gonna do everything in their power to make sure that their top receiver, Zay Flowers, gets that ball.
26:10And so this is his time to kind of show that he's like, can he hit that elite tier or get close to that elite tier?
26:19And I think this year will be his best chance yet because his numbers get better every single year.
26:2529% target share last year. Top 10 among wide receivers.
26:28He actually was wide receiver nine in utilization score.
26:31So for people that are new, utilization score is something that was created by my friend and colleague now, my coworker at FantasyLife.com, Dwayne McFarland.
26:39And so it is a singular number that basically lets you know how much they're, it's not just how much are they
26:46used, but are they used in scoring position? How many fantasy points?
26:50You know, it's a very easy number to be like, this guy is very good.
26:55This guy isn't, whether it's fluky or not. So utilization score is really, really important.
27:00And he was wide receiver nine in utilization score, which is just a way to say that they're using him a lot.
27:07They're using him in scoring positions. They're using him, you know, he's running a ton of routes.
27:12He's earning a lot of targets. He's one of nine.
27:15Count him only nine wide receivers over the last three seasons to have at least 200 fantasy points in PPR each of the last three years.
27:24Now the concern Lawrence always on Zay Flowers is, will he score touchdowns?
27:28He's never been a big touchdown scorer. But to your point, maybe there's less competition now in the red zone.
27:34I'm a wide receiver 15, which is about where he's going.
27:38But I'm at 33 overall. His consensus ADP is 39.
27:41So I'm ahead of him in the overall. I have him right there as a mid-tier wide receiver too.
27:47But I'm with you, Lawrence. I think, you know, phenomenally talented wide receiver.
27:51And if he goes from like four or five touchdowns, can we get him to like seven or eight?
27:58All of a sudden, it becomes really, really interesting.
28:01You know, that's the – it shouldn't be that big a leap, again, if Lamar has the kind of season people expect.
28:08So one of mine – it's white wine, of course.
28:11Diet Coke? Yeah, no, because I'm worried I'll spill it.
28:14So that's just – that's some Pinot Grigio. So that's one of the things that's – by the way, is that like
28:21I could never – when I worked for corporate America, it wasn't allowed to drink on air.
28:27But now that I own the show, bottoms up, I tend to get hammered every single day.
28:32All right. And we talked about the Eagles offense earlier when it came to Saquon.
28:37But A.J. Brown is vacating a 29.5% target share, which I think is one of the reasons why we like Saquon.
28:44There's, you know, more to the ball to go around.
28:47But, you know, all four years that he was with Philadelphia, A.J.
28:51Brown's had at least a 28% target share, right?
28:54Yeah, that's right, Berks and Flannels. Two red solo cups to start the show.
28:58Again, like, bottoms up, brother. But the point about Devontae Smith here, right, is that so – you know, I mean, it's kind of sort of obvious stuff.
29:07But like, A.J. Brown's leaving a massive target share.
29:10And since 2022, you know, with the Eagles, when he sees at least a 30% target share, Devontae Smith, scores over 19 fantasy points a game.
29:18Like, it's not a bunch of numbers that tell you what you know.
29:23When a good wide receiver gets a lot of targets, he's going to produce fantasy points.
29:28And so, he's had 43 games in his career, Devontae Smith has, where he's gotten at least seven targets.
29:34And he averages over 80 yards in those games.
29:37And so, you know, I talked about this, my combine column, my, you know, 35 most interesting things I heard at the combine.
29:44One of the things I talked to a team source about, and then that's since been reported by other people that cover
29:51the team, the same thing that I reported, which is that internally, the Eagles believe that Devontae Smith, as good as he's been, has another gear.
30:00That if Devontae Smith could ever get the kind of target share and volume that Jackson Smith and Jigba got last year,
30:07Devontae Smith could have that kind of year. So, I've Smith at wide receiver 12.
30:12I'm 27th overall. His consensus ADP is 34. So, I'm higher on him than both positionally and in the overall.
30:18And I just, I think a monster season is coming for Devontae Smith.
30:22As I said, the Eagles have also been such a run-heavy team.
30:26And I think under Sean Mannion, former NFL quarterback Sean Mannion, they're going to throw more.
30:31They'll still be run-heavy. But if they could get to, like, you know, 22nd in passing versus, like, 32nd.
30:37They've always been, like, one of the lowest teams in the league in terms of pass attempts.
30:43So, if they just get, like, you know, middle of the pack or even, like, bottom third but just not last, I
30:50think the increased volume of the offense, a better offense, and him being the alpha.
30:55I know we like Makai Lemon. I kind of think Dontavian Wicks is kind of sneaky, you know, being reunited with Sean Mannion.
31:02But Goddard's still there. Whatever. Whatever. It's going to be the Devontae Smith show in Philadelphia.
31:07I actually think if I had to guess who your ride or die was going to be this year, I would guess Devontae Smith.
31:15I will tell you that he is my favorite player to draft this year in fantasy.
31:20He's on your list here, but he's my favorite player to draft as well, too.
31:25And you talked about those four years with A.J.
31:28Brown. He averaged 1,000 yards every single year despite, you know, surrendering the 28%, 29% target share to A.J.
31:34Brown. He still averaged 1,000 receiving yards. So, if I had something like a ride or die, if it was, like, Lawrence's
31:41big dog at the draft or something, it would be Devontae Smith.
31:45Well, I will tell you that he is on the short list for ride or die.
31:50There's a number of people, and a lot of the people you're hearing us talk about today are all under consideration.
31:57But he's certainly under consideration here. Yeah. Brian Hickman says, serious question, masked in humor.
32:02Are the Eagles actually going to throw the ball this year?
32:05I think they will. Brian, I do think they will.
32:08Again, I think Sean Mannion, when you have an offense coordinator who comes in and says, eh, last guy got fired.
32:15Hmm. Do I want to get fired? No. What did the last guy do?
32:20Last guy didn't throw the ball. Hmm. Maybe I should throw the ball.
32:24So, I do think they will be more progressive throwing the ball this year.
32:28All right. We have to speed up a little bit here, Lawrence.
32:32Talk to me about Tyler Warren. Two first names, always a crowd pleaser.
32:36But you keep drafting a lot of Tyler Warren.
32:39Yeah. Tyler Warren, I think he started out guns a-blazing, right?
32:43His play dipped in his last nine games. It's only one game over 60 yards receiving in that stretch.
32:49But I think that kind of correlated with Daniel Jones.
32:52So, if Daniel Jones could get off to another hot start, I think Tyler Warren's going to – I don't know how
32:59much he can outplay his ADP, but he's a guy that'll go out there and get you eight, nine hundred receiving yards with 75 catches.
33:07Yeah, I totally agree, right? I mean, the other thing is, like, we like Josh Downs, but, you know, Michael Pittman no longer there.
33:1528% red zone target share. 19 red zone targets.
33:18That's fourth most among tight ends. We need Daniel Jones to be healthy, but so far it looks like he's going to be.
33:25And so just, you know, assuming Pierce is back and can stretch the field, like I like the middle of the field
33:32for Downs and Warren quite a bit. It would not shock me if Tyler Warren ends the year with the most receptions of anyone on the Indianapolis Colts.
33:41Had 76 last year. It's fourth most by a rookie in NFL history, right?
33:46So, I have another tight end, by the way, Lawrence, that I keep drafting.
33:50How about some Colston Loveland, right? The two rookies from last year, the two big rookies, Loveland and Warren, those are the guys we're talking about here.
33:59Four of the five games that he saw at least a 20% target share.
34:04This includes the playoffs. He had at least 20 fantasy points.
34:07Averaged over almost nine yards per target last season.
34:10And over his final eight games, felt like he finally came into his own.
34:15Remember, they were screwing around with Cole Komet. And you're like, what are we doing?
34:19Like, free Colston Loveland. They finally did over the final eight games, including the playoffs.
34:24I'm very bullish. Chicago sports team. I'm very bullish on the Bears this year as an offense.
34:30I'm a Ben Johnson believer. I think Caleb has a big year.
34:34I think Luther Burden has a monster year. You know, a Dunzee obviously is a, you know, a guy that was drafted in the top 10 overall.
34:42And I think Colston Loveland, who I have at tight end three, 38 overall.
34:47He's going 42 overall in the consensus. So I'm higher than him on the consensus.
34:52He's generally the tight end three across the industry.
34:55But, you know, everyone's got Bowers and McBride obviously is the top two.
34:59But I think Colston Loveland's going to have a big year, Lawrence.
35:03Yeah. And he's more explosive than you think at the tight end position.
35:07So, Matthew, as you're getting the sippy sip on right there, I'll go with my next guy, Kenneth Gainwell.
35:13Just for some value, especially the PPR leagues. Talk about a guy, 73 receptions last year.
35:18He will threaten Bucky Irvin to lead that backfield in receptions.
35:22Not touches, but receptions. Because they're either paying him almost $10 million for one year or $14 million for two years.
35:28He had a career year last year, 1,000 yards from scrimmage.
35:32They're going to use him well. He's going to work well with Baker Mayfield.
35:36And they'll help alleviate some of the, you know, losing the Mike Evans.
35:41You can't replace Mike Evans, but Kenneth Gainwell will help a little bit.
35:45There's no question about it. I have a pretty good Tampa Bay team source who told me Gainwell is looking awesome.
35:51They love him. They expect to use him in a lot of ways, not just as a third down back.
35:58You know, they talk about the fact of, like, how good he is, you know, between the tackles.
36:04You know, people are surprised by that, especially given his size.
36:07And so, yeah, I mean, I still think Bucky Irving is the lead running back, obviously.
36:12If you ask me which Tampa Bay running back ends with most fantasy points, I'd still say Bucky Irving.
36:19But I'm with you on Gainwell. I think he's going to be a value.
36:23I'm at running back 33. He's currently going as running back 36.
36:27So I'm one-on-one overall. Again, I think, but as you're, you know, I think he's a viable flex play in 12-team or deeper leagues.
36:35I think he, you know, as you're running back four or five.
36:38Really like Kenneth Gainwell. Again, last year, top five among running backs in targets, receptions, and receiving yards.
36:44And the man got paid. We like the Bucs offense.
36:48And to your point, with Mike Evans out, you know, we talked about Baker a little bit earlier.
36:53Like, Gainwell is going to be one of those guys that I think they're going to have to count on.
37:00I'm not. I think that Sean Tucker will just basically be a Bucky insurance back.
37:05I think it's going to be the Bucky and Gainwell show.
37:08Free Sean Tucker. I agree. I don't know why they won't let him go more, but they don't, unfortunately.
37:14And that is from Akito. You'll have that one week.
37:17You're going to have that one week. He is.
37:20You know he is. All right. Let me move on to one of mine here, Lawrence.
37:25And that is Lad McConkie. Daniel Popper, who covers the Chargers for The Athletic, does a great job.
37:31I'm paraphrasing here, but basically he believes that the Chargers passing offense is going to run through McConkie.
37:37Right? And I just, I'm a big Mike McDaniel believer, especially in terms of how he can design an offense, how he can create.
37:45I think he is so good at finding ways to create separation for his receivers, to take advantage of yards after the catch.
37:52And I'm not saying Lad McConkie is Tyreek Hill or Jalen Waddell.
37:56Obviously, he's not fast as either of those guys.
37:59But I think in terms of how he designs plays, both those guys, Hill and Waddell, both rank top 10 in yards per route run under McDaniel.
38:08I think Herbert's going to have a monster year.
38:11He's already had a monster year. He's engaged to Madison Beer.
38:14Right? You know, so God bless Justin Herbert. But I just think McConkie is going to have, you know, no Keenan Allen there.
38:22I think there's less target competition. I think he's going to be the number one pass catching option for Justin Herbert.
38:28I think this offense is going to be a lot better under Mike McDaniel, a lot more balanced.
38:34So I'm a big believer in Lad McConkie. I'm at wide receiver 18 this year, 40th overall.
38:40He's currently going 45th overall as wide receiver 20.
38:42So your thoughts on Lad McConkie. You mentioned how he's not as fast as Tyreek or Jalen Waddell, and that is very true.
38:50But he's pretty damn fast. And if they start to get him the ball like they did those two guys, like let
38:57him catch and run, you know, just not all, you know, go routes and post.
39:02Let Lad McConkie catch and run and show that explosiveness because he's clearly, he's their most explosive offensive weapon, man.
39:08He's going to do something. He'll do better than what he did as a rookie, which was, you know, pretty damn good.
39:15No question about that, Lawrence. All right, YouTube, stay with us one more time.
39:20I'm going to go clean up the rest of the Diet Coke that I spilled.
39:25But for the podcast, we'll be back right after this.
39:28All right, Lawrence, we are back now and finishing up the players.
39:32We can't stop drafting our 10 players that we have drafted the most so far.
39:37And I love this one for you. Casey Concepcion.
39:39Now, you know me. I grew up in College Station, Texas.
39:43I love me some Aggies. I watched a lot of college football.
39:47I watched a lot of Casey Concepcion. This guy is a hell of a player.
39:52Yeah, man. And if you've seen any of these clips of these catches that he's making in training camp, it's a reason to get excited.
40:00And to be honest, Denzel Boston, too, they already look like they appear to be.
40:05I don't know if they are. They appear to be the Browns' two best receivers.
40:09But Casey Concepcion is a guy that I think has a great chance to lead this Browns team in receptions.
40:16I keep on saying he's going to be a good fantasy pick if the Browns start the correct quarterback.
40:22And right now, Matthew, it's looking like it should be my boy.
40:26Should do her. Let me put up the wrist of my watch on it.
40:30It should be my boy, number two. They're already building a good connection.
40:34But it's like, just like we said about Ladd McConkie, get him the ball, let him run.
40:40But if you want to, you know, take it deep, can he go up and get a 50-50 ball as a smaller receiver?
40:47Yes, he could do that. Like Antonio Brown used to do it.
40:51So he's already lining up in the slot. Fantasy guys, we love the slot, right?
40:56He's lining up with the ones in the slot.
40:59When they go 11 personnel, that's been a fact.
41:02So just later in your drafts, last few picks, Casey Concepcion is a guy you want to take a flyer on.
41:09No question about that. I mean, like if you think about Todd Munkin when he was the offense coordinator for the Ravens, right?
41:16Baltimore under Munkin when he was there. Baltimore wide receivers second in yards for reception.
41:21They were seventh in A dot and yards after the catch per reception.
41:25Like he is very good. Again, it's similar to McDaniel in designing ways to get his guys the ball in space.
41:32And so Concepcion, I bet you see him on some screens.
41:35You'll see him on some sweeps. They will do some gadgety stuff with him to take advantage of his speed.
41:42So there's a lot of different things you can do with him.
41:46I'm a wide receiver 50. Again, we'll see how good this offense is, how often they're in scoring position.
41:52But I love him in dynasty and definitely worth kind of a late round flyer, if you will, in redraft.
41:58So we talked about this earlier at the top of the show, Lawrence.
42:02One of the guys that I can't stop drafting is Mike Evans.
42:06I've always loved Mike Evans, you know, going back to College Station, Texas, right?
42:11Giga Maggie's Mike Evans. But, you know, this comparison has been made by me and other people.
42:16I'm not the only one to think this, but I think he is this year's Devontae Adams.
42:22I think that, you know, he becomes the immediate red zone threat for the 49ers, right?
42:27Last year, in the seven full games that he played, 44% of his team's end zone targets, 26% target share.
42:33He's always, you know, he's a guy that's as good at winning a 50-50 ball as anyone in the NFL.
42:40And this is the point. When they get in close, that's what the 49ers like to do.
42:45Over the last three years, San Francisco is third in red zone passing touchdowns.
42:50And so I just think he's going to get a ton of cheap passing touchdowns, especially, by the way, when you think
42:57about they just lost Ricky Pearsall for the year.
43:00We're not sure when George Kittle's going to come back.
43:03Obviously, you've got McCaffrey there, but Mike Evans would be the number one option for what I think is going to be a very good offense.
43:11So, yeah, give me some Mike Evans. I'm at 25 overall.
43:15I'm at 48th overall in the consensus and wide receiver 25.
43:18He's currently going after pick 61 in consensus ADP.
43:21So I'm fairly high on him in the overall.
43:24I think he's going as wide receiver 27. So higher on him in consensus and in ADP.
43:30Big fan of Mike Evans this year. Needs to stay healthy, as we always say.
43:34But I think he's got something to prove this year.
43:38As long as Mike Evans is playing in the NFL, I will continue to target him in fantasy drafts, Matthew.
43:44And you know how I like to draft. I load up on these running backs, right?
43:49So if Mike Evans was my wide receiver 2 on my fantasy team, I'm feeling pretty good.
43:55I also feel pretty good about Brock Purdy this year.
43:58So that kind of, you know, that relates to that as well.
44:02I think these two will have a good connection.
44:05And like you said earlier, him plus targets in the end zone equals money.
44:09Still at his age right now, no one's proven that they can stop him at that goal line.
44:15No, they absolutely haven't. So Brooklyn Brawler saying, I'll take him if he's right there.
44:20Oh, thanks, Brooklyn Brawler. Appreciate that. Thanks. Thanks for being willing to draft Mike Evans.
44:25No, I appreciate you, Brooklyn Brawler. So anyway, those are our 10 players that we can't stop drafting.
44:30Once again, just to recap for you, for you, Saquon Barkley, Zay Flowers, Tyler Warren, Kenneth Gainwell, and Casey Concepcion.
44:37For me, my five, Kenneth Walker, Devontae Smith, Colston Loveland, Lad McConkie, and Mike Evans.
44:42So those are our 10 players we cannot stop drafting.
44:45Those are our most drafted players so far this year.
44:48It is time once again, Lawrence, for last call.
44:51And so I want to ask you, who do you have winning the Super Bowl?
44:56Man, something in the back of my head keep telling me about the Chicago Bears, man.
45:01But I got to go with my pick that I have every year that never hits.
45:06So I got to do it again. Baltimore Ravens.
45:09This is it. This is it, Lamar. If Mike McDonald can win it his second year as a head coach, Jesse Minner
45:16can win it in his first new offense. Declan Doyle.
45:19Lamar gets back on track, stays healthy and all that.
45:23We're going Super Bowl Ravens. Ravens. All right. So but who are the Ravens playing?
45:27You think the Bears? You like Ravens, Bears as a Super Bowl?
45:31I think so. I think so, Matthew. I think the Bears.
45:35I think Kayla Williams, although this is his third year, kind of Joe Burrow did it in his second year.
45:41But I think Kayla Williams, they make it interesting this year.
45:45I think it'll be something to shock us a little bit.
45:48Yeah. Well, I would love to take my commanders as I always do.
45:53But the truth is, is that I, you know, I don't love to do it, but I'm going chalk here.
45:59Good to be honest with you. Like, I don't know how if the Rams stay healthy.
46:04I don't know how they they don't get there.
46:07Right. I just if they stay healthy. And that's the big if, of course.
46:12But I'm taking the Rams and I'm taking the Rams and the Bills.
46:16Proud Fantasy Life investor Josh Allen. So those are the two favorites, along with the Ravens.
46:21But it's still generally speaking, if you look across as all the sports books, it's generally 10 to one for either the Ravens or the Bills.
46:29And even the Rams are, you know, basically like plus 500, plus 550, wherever you see them.
46:35So Brian Turno, 7-1-1-9. Yes, you can get a birthday shout out.
46:39Happy birthday, Brian. Happy birthday, Brian. Happy birthday, man.
46:41Appreciate you spending it with us. I'm glad you were born, Brian.
46:45Lawrence, are you glad he's born? Be honest. Yeah, or else he wouldn't be watching this show and showing love.
46:52So now we get to show you, Brian, some love back.
46:55So happy birthday, dog. Enjoy it, man. Stuntman Chuck, wait.
46:59Are we still calling ourselves the regulars? Absolutely we are, Stuntman Chuck.
47:02You guys are still the regulars. Look, the show is still Fantasy Football Happy Hour.
47:07You guys are still the regulars. We're still doing all of it.
47:11It's just, you know, slightly different set, slightly different setup.
47:14Still nonsense. Still not taking, you know, taking what we're, taking fantasy football seriously, but not ourselves seriously.
47:20Still going to have a lot of fun. Great show tomorrow.
47:24Dan Graziano, my friend Dan Graziano from ESPN, the great reporter Dan Graziano in Lawrence.
47:28You know him. We all had dinner one night.
47:31Yeah, Pittsburgh. In Pittsburgh, yes, sir. Dan Graziano is, in addition to being a great reporter, and he's already been to a
47:38number of training camps already, but in addition to being a great reporter, he's also a big fantasy football player.
47:45So I can't wait tomorrow for Dan Graziano. I will tell you on Wednesday, Austin Eckler, fantasy football royalty and proud fantasy life investor.
47:53Austin Eckler will be here on Wednesday. And then Thursday, our buddy Connor Rogers is coming by.
47:58So we have a, we have a good week, good opening week, Lawrence.
48:02But thank you so much. Thanks for coming on the show.
48:06Lawrence Jackson at NBC, at Lord Don't Lose, of course, on all forms of social media, NBC sports.com, rotorworld.com.
48:12Lawrence Jackson. Look, it is closing time, which means you don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.
48:18So we're back tomorrow. Thank you to everyone that came and watched the first show.
48:23Uh, we're back tomorrow live at noon Eastern on YouTube and available wherever you get your podcasts, uh, on demand, also on demand on YouTube.
48:31Follow me on all forms of social media at Matthew Barry TMR and check me out at fantasy life.com.
48:37I believe what the kids say is please like, and subscribe.
48:41So yes, please like, and subscribe. All right. So, uh, we will see you guys tomorrow.
48:46Thank you again, Lawrence. Peace out.

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