0:00Alright, Week 6 is in the books. If you play the FFPC tournament, your season's half over.
0:06In FFC gamers, you got the halfway mark next week.
0:09And we know a lot about how the rest of the season might unfold, but at the same time, we know nothing.
0:16The NFL is going to give us curveballs, we know that.
0:20But you know what? I can't hold these guys back any longer.
0:24I mean, before the show was even going, they were ripping.
0:27They're ready to go today, so we're going to get right into the Empire.
0:32Yep, we're all jacked up on Mountain Dew. Everybody's got the macchiatos and the, yeah.
0:37We got the iced coffees going today. Got out to the Duncan King.
0:41We're representing Duncan. That's where I'm talking about, Chris.
0:44Got out to the Duncan King. Alright boys, six weeks down and we're heading into week seven, almost at the halfway point.
0:51And hope everybody had a nice week. Get busy scoring and get busy dying.
0:56Yep. Lowest scoring week I can ever remember, right guys?
0:59I know obviously, you know, a little- Like this week?
1:03Yeah. No, there are a lot of low scores.
1:05Well, at least like week four was awful, I think.
1:09That was just horrendous. Yeah. I know just looking through all my leagues, like I've never seen more teams out of 12
1:16be under 100 points collectively than like, you know, like 89 to 83 games and 97 to 92.
1:22Like, that was the story of week four. And then if you're the team that in each league dropped the 160, if
1:29you scored 160 this week, you made up a lot of ground or you pulled away or, you know, 160 was like a 200 for this week.
1:38Do you all agree with that? I do agree with that.
1:42No, I agree because I think other than last night with McCaffrey, I don't think there was any 30 point scorers.
1:49And I think that was the first time this year, right?
1:52That is correct. Going into last night's game, what did McCaffrey finish with?
1:56I have no McCaffrey. Like 32 or 31? So he just snuck over the 30.
2:01It was the first time a skilled position player didn't go over 30 points in for fantasy in who knows, maybe eternity.
2:09But as of going into last night, there was nobody that scored 30 points.
2:13You know, in my fantasy world, Chris, Matthew Golden went over 40.
2:17Yeah. Oh, my God. He was like, he was like AJ Brown, but he actually put up points.
2:23You know, AJ Brown dropped. I can't remember a time watching Jordan on Sunday.
2:28They were everywhere. That potential second touchdown. I never, I'll never forget.
2:32The ball was going. He had the, he had the separation.
2:35It was the easiest touch. I celebrated it before he caught it.
2:39And then as I watched the ball drop, I just dropped to my knees, dropped to my knees.
2:45It was crazy watching that. And then Watson dropping his touchdown.
2:49I mean, the game could have been so much bigger, but I can't remember a game where three touchdown passes were dropped.
2:56And obviously we're all big on Golden and love and Watson.
3:00So it was a collective hurt Sunday night. Yeah.
3:03I mean, my takeaway from this week real quick was just like, I was worried about like week, like the even weeks have hurt me.
3:11And I didn't have any sub 100 weeks. So I was happy with that.
3:15I had, I did have some really nice scoring.
3:18So it was a good week. Uh, I just needed that back to back because that's been the problem.
3:25You know, getting those back to two weeks. Consistency, man.
3:28You had no teams sub 100? That's like rich people problems.
3:32Yeah. I mean, week four, I was putting up eighties and nineties, you know, that was some rough times, man.
3:38Yeah, I just, it was jelly that week in the Modica household.
3:42Well, it was, I thought it was telling because in the FFPC, it was all play week.
3:48And don't ask me why they do all play week on week six.
3:52I mean, it's the stupidest thing ever. They should be doing it.
3:56One of the first four weeks when everybody's lineups are at full strength rather than by weeks and stuff like that.
4:03But, um, you know, I, I had teams that were scoring in the, you know, the high one twenties, like one 25
4:10to one 30 that were getting the win on all play week.
4:14And, you know, if I had a team that was, had a one 40 or more, it was like, Hey, I'm second or third place.
4:22Um, can't just really weird. I thought, you know, I, this one of the lowest scoring all play weeks in FFPC I've seen in a while.
4:31I got a question now that Dan just brought that up in NFFC.
4:35There was a couple of years where the, the last week of the regular season was all play.
4:41Am I making that up with Nelson? Do you remember that, Matt?
4:45I don't remember exactly, but I remember they did have it at a different point.
4:50Now it's like weeks one, two, and then the final week.
4:54There was in the first three. And now that I think about it, I mean, it's really smart to make the final
5:01week of the regular season all play in my opinion.
5:04I mean, I wish they would go back to that.
5:07I don't even know if I think like to Dan's point, do they do it?
5:12Cause there's no buys. That's what I think about it.
5:16Just bang it up the first three weeks, you know?
5:19Yeah, of course. Yeah. That's the reason why. Well, week 14, you're going to have like, I mean, the Cowboys, it might
5:26not matter the way this offense looks, but. I would, I'm saying do it because you might get that team that hasn't
5:33set their lineup in three weeks in week 14.
5:36And you know, it's a big matchup. Uh, Jeff cars are trying to change it when the schedule expanded.
5:43Okay. That makes sense. I'd rather them go back to that last week, be an all play.
5:48And you got to depend on your own team and not get lucky with playing, uh, you know, a shit team that isn't setting their lineups.
5:57How about this one? Call me not old fashioned.
6:00And I'd rather be in leagues where it's all play the whole season.
6:04I agree with you, Nelson. Awesome. I don't really think you're going to beat this guy.
6:09I just want to put a point. Yeah. That's the way I look at it is give me points.
6:15And if I finished top six, I get a win.
6:19All the rules the same, but there's no like head to head.
6:23Yeah. I think they got to cater to the fish too.
6:26I mean, you know, you, and you know, these, these head to heads, they definitely cater more to the fish than the
6:34sharps because, you know, as we, we know that, you know, you can, you can run into a buzz saw any given week.
6:41You know, there's no, there's no mercy in a head to head.
6:45You know, and I think the fish like it more, you know, the, the people aren't used to it or just getting
6:52their feet wet in the, in the format. They like that head to head format that attracts in new people.
6:59So yeah. But the problem is the NFFC is really a points leak, you know, outside of that, you know, you do
7:06get, you do get in with the best, you know, best record, but it's really a points leak.
7:12And, you know, maybe it takes some people, maybe a couple of years to realize that, but I mean, I agree.
7:19The way I look at the best teams are the teams that score the most points.
7:24Oh yeah. You can go whatever 12, 12, 12.
7:27If you can pull in more people, if you can attract people, that's the, that's the key, you know?
7:33Yeah, but you're attracting these people. Even if it's kind of a, you know, a little bit of a bait and switch.
7:41I get it, I want fish, but you need to know the format.
7:45Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like FFPC is different because the record does matter more than that.
7:51Yeah. Because two teams are getting in by record on FFPC.
7:55Yep. All right. All right. Well, let's, let's dive into what we saw, Chris.
7:59What do you got? Ah, let's start off with the old guard.
8:03I had a rough week six. The old guard went down.
8:07Speaking of the old guard, Nelson, right? Straight across the board, we lost, let's go to last night's game.
8:13Terry McLaurin goes down. He's going to be out for the season.
8:17I would assume. I don't know if there's an update yet, but he's going to be done.
8:23I think it was like a rumor of a, like a ruptured tendon, the way he was holding his knee, whatever.
8:30Yeah. Yeah. He's done. Um, you know, Mike Evans, Mike Evans did not look, uh, good.
8:35He's not healthy. I expect him to miss some time, maybe even an IR spot after today.
8:41You won't see him this Sunday. I highly doubt that.
8:44Yeah. I think. You put an opinion on that.
8:47Oh, so here's my opinion. They have the bar.
8:50We can. Yeah. I'm a step below in Mike Evans athleticism.
8:53Okay. Yeah. But I've, I've had Achilles tendonitis before.
8:56And listen, I, I'm, I'm telling you the truth.
8:59I'm just below Evans though. In athleticism. Okay. I'm just, all right.
9:03But I've had it before and it's no joke.
9:06Like it's, it's painful. You got to manage it.
9:09Uh, you, you got to get like cortisone shots, but it's dangerous like to, to get the cortisone shot.
9:15And if you're playing like football, a physical sport and pushing off, you run the risk of like, like a serious injury.
9:23And which is still crazy that, you know, like he caught that, you know, crosser and then he, he's limping up the sideline.
9:30He would have been gone for an easy touchdown.
9:33Uh, you know, but he looked like he got shot in the, in the back there.
9:38Uh, still came out, made another couple of catches, gave you a decent stat line just to get through the night.
9:4594 yards. Yeah. But you know, you won't, you won't see him, um, for a couple of weeks if not longer.
9:52And then. Right next week. Matt, is that true?
9:55Week eight. Week eight. They have the ball. Okay.
9:58So forget it. Atlanta this upcoming week. No team short week.
10:02Yeah. I think Atlanta is going to give them a real run this week.
10:06Matt, I want to put this out. The first thing that jumped into my mind when Evans went down, I was like six and O team.
10:15The buy is next week going to Atlanta. I can't wait till the line comes out on this game.
10:21I haven't looked this morning. I am backing the bucket bus up on Atlanta.
10:26And I really, I, I'm that's all leave it at that.
10:29As bad as Atlanta played in that game, but like, uh, what's his name?
10:34Zachariah branch. Mm-hmm. Those two fumbles was ridiculous. Yeah.
10:37So, uh, the Adams was the final piece of that puzzle guys.
10:41Uh, Chris. Yeah. Yeah. Plus three and a half Falcons and 15 and a half total.
10:46Oh, that's crazy. All right. Money line Atlanta plus the points.
10:50Um, I'll be on that page. Uh, so that's it.
10:53You know, like, listen, these were all guys that were like fourth, fifth rounders.
10:58Right. And, and we were all fading most of these guys because they're the older wide receivers.
11:03And it's just ironic that the, you know, some of them got off to a great start.
11:09Mike Evans, great start to Vante Adams, great start.
11:12And they all went down in the same week.
11:15You know, it's just, uh, really crazy, but you know what, they made it six weeks.
11:20Some of these guys and, uh, you know, add DJ more into that mix, a little older receiver struggling with his health.
11:27This is why you fade guys like this. You know, sometimes we're right on it.
11:32Sometimes we're wrong on it. Um, but they all went down and, uh, just to back up to the Terry and Mike
11:40Evans points of losing these guys for a little bit.
11:43Uh, George Kittle, I think in my opinion, enters the top three or four tight end overall for the rest of the season here.
11:51Kittle is going to eat. Um, and, uh, Chig Akonkwo.
11:54I think he's another guy that you got. I caught a lot of crap for Chig early in the.
12:00I was picking up, I was picking up Chig in my leagues this past week in a lot of leagues started him as well as Michael mayor.
12:09Uh, those are my two under the radar tight ends, uh, for the week to help me out, especially when Tyler Warren got ruled an active.
12:18Uh, I threw in mayor and Chig in all my leagues.
12:21Uh, Chig is Chig's going to have a nice rest of the season here in my opinion in Washington, bad defense playing
12:29from behind, probably be the second option to digs in the past game.
12:33Um, so that's, uh, that's one of my main observations.
12:36We'll stay in Washington for one second. Yeah. You mentioned digs and digs is really good, but he's another old guy.
12:43Yeah. That's always banged up and injured. He's dealing.
12:46He's been dealing with the hammy though. He played really well last night.
12:50Um, Antonio Williams is probably going to get the opportunity.
12:54Now trail and Burks got banged up in the game.
12:57And I'm really excited to see what this kid could do in the second half if he does.
13:03Yeah. I think Burks might be a little bit underrated here too.
13:07I mean, assuming he comes out of this. Okay.
13:10I'm guessing he's probably, you know, probably why he got taken off the field is concussion.
13:15Uh, check would be my guess, but, but yeah, I mean, you know, Burks, he was, uh, you know, he was a
13:22mid round, uh, mid first round pick of the Titans.
13:26And he had a lot of injury problems, you know, on his first contract.
13:30And then all of a sudden, you know, now he's, he's healthy.
13:34Um, he's in a spot where he can get a little bit of opportunity.
13:39I mean, uh, you know, the commies season is circling the drain already.
13:43They might as well see what they got with Burks and, uh, you know, spend a little bit more time on him
13:50on, uh, Antonio Williams, of course on Chig, you know, that's, that's where their passing game should be going.
13:56But, and I want to move digs for a pick or something.
14:00Yeah. Yeah. They should move on from digs, uh, at the trade deadline for sure.
14:05Turn it over to Antonio Williams and Burks and whoever, but another little bright spot in last night's game was Rashad white.
14:13You know, they put your Corey Krosky merit on IR before the game.
14:17Um, and now it looks like a, you know, it, it kind of was more disappointing honestly, because the game, you know,
14:24you saw Jeremy McNichols in there, you see Eckler in there and you were hoping to see like a Rashad white kind
14:31of takeover where he hasn't really produced much this year.
14:35But, you know, once merit goes on, I are here, you're hoping that, all right, maybe I have a piece on my
14:42bench and Rashad white that I didn't use all year, but he could be my solid RB two now going forward in this team.
14:50Again, another team that's going to be playing from behind a lot, catch the ball out of the backfield.
14:56But if this is going to be another shit show backfield of three guys rotating in and out, like we're seeing across
15:03fantasy and across the NFL, uh, you know, maybe the expectations need to be halted a little bit.
15:09Yeah. I don't know, Chris, cause I'll say one thing when he scored that touchdown and there was a flag, I was like frozen in time.
15:18Cause I needed those nine yards to go over 10 and a half, 12 and a half.
15:23And then they picked it up. But I mean, I can't see Austin Eckler really sustaining anything.
15:29I mean, I, I think McNichols could be involved bills on the IR.
15:33And I mean, what does that forget like, you know, a few plays a game anyway.
15:38So if he's going to be on the field, 60, 70%, then yeah, also all, you know, like let's go, but I
15:46don't know if Washington is going to give them that, uh, you know, the green light here.
15:51I think Eckler will probably get the nausea treatment pretty soon.
15:55I don't know. It could be though. I think he's probably a better locker room presence than Najee.
16:01You got to think. And they definitely need some locker room presence.
16:05That team, cause the head coach is a moron and the quarterback has no idea.
16:10I got to, uh, I got to meet Eckler out in Vegas, uh, for the, uh, the legacy draft, uh, uh, back in August, August 28th, whatever.
16:19And that dude, super nice guy, like really easy to talk to.
16:23And he was approachable and everything. And we talked for a little while.
16:27Um, so I, I wish him the best of luck, whatever he does, but he, he's a cool dude.
16:33He, he gets, the thing is he's a football player and he gets fantasy.
16:38Yep. Yep. Definitely makes a difference. All right, guys, before we get back into the observations, we're going to get this, uh,
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18:10But we move on, boys. What else did we notice, guys?
18:13All right. Nelson, you got anything? I think there was...
18:16I usually don't overreact to players in performances, whether it's a bad performance or a good performance.
18:22But, you know, one guy that's starting to look like he could be like a total difference maker to me is Jeremy Bernard with the Steelers.
18:31Like, I try not to like get too crazy or whatever, but like, he looks like he looks the part and he's playing the part.
18:39And he's got Rodgers confidence, which Rodgers typically doesn't usually trust like young guys, rookies, no less.
18:44And he just looks like he's a pro. Like, he gets it.
18:48And I've seen like, I've been reading like a lot of stuff about with like the film room and like he knows his assignments.
18:56He knows the defense and everything. So like all those things are pointing towards like, I think like arrows up for Bernard.
19:03I don't know if this is a flash in the pan.
19:07I don't either. It was one of my observations as well, Nelson.
19:11The kid jumped off the screen and is the real deal.
19:15And for everybody that went in and overpaid, it's not an overpayment.
19:19He's going to be a big part of the offense.
19:22The fact that he came out and got double digit targets, 25 fantasy points.
19:27He's here to stay. My one thing that I was thinking about in this offense is eventually they're going to get Roman Wilson back.
19:34They're going to get Michael Pittman back. They already have Muth, not Patty, but Muth.
19:39And thank you. All of a sudden, this Steelers offense that always has been in recent years like, ah, this is shit.
19:47They have a bunch of options here. And I think that brings Rogers into the picture as a playable fantasy quarterback here.
19:54So the only thing that can happen, I mean, for the foreseeable future, it looks good if you're the DK and Jeremy
20:01Bernard owner here in the pass game for the Steelers.
20:04When these other guys enter the offense, I don't know how the pie is broken up.
20:10So as we're talking Steelers, I mean, how sad was it that Jalen Warren got Rico this weekend?
20:16They came out and finally said he's going to be our featured back.
20:20Yeah. As far as Bernard, I agree with you guys.
20:23I know that was a favorite of the Greek.
20:26He was, you know, he was picking them up the week before.
20:30So we give him a shout out for that.
20:33But if you were a Roman Wilson owner, you got to be like devastated.
20:38You went in, you picked up Roman Wilson. He seemed to be the guy that was going to get that role and that part.
20:45And then he breaks his wrist or whatever, injures his wrist.
20:49He's out for weeks. And I think Bernard just snatched his soul and Pittman.
20:54I don't think it's a Pittman year. You know, it seems like he's got the whatever plantar fasciitis or some shit with his foot.
21:02Mm hmm. Yep. Yeah. Pittman is done for the year, I think.
21:06OK. All right. Matt. I mean, I'll say this.
21:09I'll start off with the, you know, Christmas is coming in two weeks.
21:13The Modica household will have the tree up. I might even put a tree up here.
21:18Wait, did I miss the calendar here? I was just about to say, oh, my God.
21:23First week and other. I better start shopping. And then we loop Christmas Vacation.
21:28There's like three movies I can get my mom to watch at any time.
21:33Godfather, Godfather 2, and Christmas Vacation. Matt, since I've known you, I've never met anybody that loves Christmas and celebrates it more than Matt Modica.
21:41It's literally amazing. I am the anti-Matt. I don't put up the tree until about the middle of December.
21:47It's like, let's get this thing up. Like Trevion, I'm a child of Christ.
21:52No, but Jalen Noel, the reason I want to touch on this is it seems like you had this coming out party
21:59and things are going to get interesting in Houston.
22:02We wanted to save this for the show. I know Nelson, I want to hear his points on it.
22:08But he's somebody that I thought was going into the season after Higgins went down, was their second best receiving option, dynamic player on the team.
22:17Week one, he won me a lot of money.
22:20I've been playing him pretty much, you know, all season.
22:23But they don't throw the ball to him that much.
22:26It was going to Hutchinson. They had this Wayne Jarrett guy, you know, what the bitch was that?
22:32And this week, I've been listening every week. You know, I've been searching Texans stuff.
22:37And every week, it's been a slow drip. You've heard it from the quarterback, from the OC, from the GM head coach, the confidence, they're giving him more.
22:46And he really delivered. I mean, he looked the part this week.
22:50Now, Tank's coming back. They traded for Marv. How does this shake out?
22:54You got Nico, who's an alpha. I don't know, but I'm happy to have him.
22:59And I'm hoping that, you know, good things continue with this player.
23:03Because every time he touches the ball, I think in the last three weeks, he's leading the league in yards per target.
23:11So. Yeah. I like Jalen Noel. I like what I've seen out of him.
23:15I wish the snap counts would increase a little bit more.
23:19He's been like right around like 50%. I feel like he's the type of player that should be out there way more.
23:26They're involving like Hutchinson and Booty, like way too much.
23:29And even like Nico is playing like 70% of snaps, which is crazy.
23:34Like he should be like in the high 80s or like mid 80s.
23:38But, um, my, my concern is this. Um, cause I'm trying to be, I'm trying to be a little bit cautious, but
23:45I'm pretty hyped up for, uh, for Noel. Is that you bring in Harrison.
23:50Okay. Which was kind of an interesting ad. Cause you gave up like second round pick, which is, which is not nothing.
23:57And he's going to start getting ramped up. So once he gets ramped up, he's not going to play 12 snaps every game.
24:05He's going to play close to, you know, full snaps.
24:08I think what ends up happening. And then you got Noel who's playing really well.
24:13You have tank Dell that they're saying like, he's going to be active and, and he's going to be back.
24:19Like something's got to get, you can't, I say you can't rotate all these guys, but I'm not giving these coaches too much credit here.
24:28I, I worry about these guys. What are they going to do with Hutchinson with Kayshawn Booty?
24:33Um, you guys aren't mentioned in Harrison. Did I miss that?
24:37Yeah. You missed it. I was saying that he's, he's going to get ramped up here in the, in the next couple of weeks.
24:45He's not going to play 12 snaps every week.
24:48So what ends up happening here? I feel like, like there needs to be like another like trade where they ship one
24:55of these guys out because it just doesn't make sense.
24:58And then like tank Dell, like, he seems like he would play like more of like the slot role, which is what Noel is playing.
25:06So it's like, are you going to really like screw up like a good thing here?
25:12I don't know. Well, that's why Nelson, I thought it was so important that he had this game this week.
25:18Cause like I said, he's, it's been building up, building up.
25:22And for him to put on that show, I mean, was something else.
25:26Cause I'm worried about tank Dell as well, but.
25:29What are you going to do with Jalen Noel going forward though?
25:33You guys are Jalen Noel. Is he in your lineup?
25:36Uh, I mean, I had him in pretty much all my lineups that AJ Brown became active.
25:42I put AJ Brown in luckily slim saved the day.
25:45Cause that was, wasn't looking good at one point.
25:48I put Smith in for him. All right. But with the bi-weeks, I think he's a real bi-week replacement.
25:54Yeah. I compare him to another guy that we saw blow up on Sunday.
25:59And I think it's comparable in terms of, uh, what you're going to get from Jalen Noel each week.
26:05And that's Trey Tucker in Vegas. You know, it's either going to be a four or it could be a 22, you
26:13know, uh, depending on, on the week. I don't think it's a consistent thing with Jalen Noel just because there's too many
26:20options in Houston, like Nelson was saying. So, you know, Dalton Schultz has to play a role every three or four weeks.
26:27Dalton Schultz is going to have his six for 75 game and, and a whole rotation of guys.
26:33It's just a too big of a target tree there.
26:36But, you know, it was a great call this past week.
26:40And let's see if he can be consistent on, on a weekly basis, or if he's going to turn into the Trey Tucker of the Houston Texans.
26:49Yeah. I mean, I think the best case is like, I think Schultz is kind of getting phased out.
26:55Who's the guy? Foster Moreau. He had the two touchdowns.
26:58He seems to always be involved in the red zone now.
27:02I mean, it's becoming a thing with Foster Moreau and touchdowns.
27:06And you, my hope is that Harrison's like that sacrificial X and they, they put, uh, Nico in motion and, uh, Jalen in the slot.
27:14But it sounds like what they're going to do is they're going to put, uh, they're, they're going to put, uh, leave
27:21Nico at X and they're going to put, uh, Harrison in the Z and then, you know, whoever in the slot.
27:28And, you know, to me, I, I think that Noel has at least proven that, you know, he can do something with limited touches.
27:36And so hopefully that continues to be the case going forward.
27:39Cause it might be limited touches. I don't know.
27:42I guess I'm probably less concerned about tank Dell than anything.
27:46I mean, no, none of us have seen him play.
27:49So, you know, I don't know, but, uh, coming back from a knee injury like that, um, I, I, I don't know.
27:57I mean, I, you know, I put my money on Noel to, uh, to still be the best wide receiver between the two of them.
28:05But I think the, you know, the real thing is CJ Stroud, he's got the weapons.
28:10I mean, you know, Stroud is going to be a real viable play, uh, moving forward.
28:15Uh, you know, and he has been a couple of weeks already in the past.
28:20So, uh, you know, kudos to the Houston brass for, uh, you know, they, they did not say, oh, we're gonna, you
28:27know, we had a problem with wide receiver. We're going to go get a guy.
28:32Uh, you know, they went and got a couple of guys and then they got tank Dell coming back.
28:39I mean, you know, they, they're, they're putting a lot of options at the wide receiver position out there so that, uh,
28:46you know, Stroud has the best possible chance to succeed, which is great after how he looked in the playoffs last year.
28:53I was getting ready to drop Harrison over the weekend.
28:56I, that's how close I was to, to saying, I really think that he's never going to play a role on any
29:04of my fantasy teams that I have them, but it was promising.
29:08The fact that they got him out there for the plays and actually threw to him, I could see stashing him on
29:15the bench and maybe in two, three weeks as he starts ramping up and getting more plays.
29:20Maybe they actually have a, you know, they, they use the draft capital for him.
29:25They gotta get him out there and, and let him be a second round pick and not, and not have a plan
29:33to use the guy is how I'm looking at it.
29:36And what I didn't like as a Jalen Noel owner is the fact that in Arizona, all you saw was targets outside the numbers.
29:44And in that game with Houston and his limited snaps, he was going over the middle.
29:49And I don't like that. I mean, I agree with that, but what, what, what I liked as a Jalen Noel owner,
29:56I don't think he looks really good. I don't, he, he, he doesn't have any kind of like separation or any kind
30:04of speed to his game, at least from what I saw.
30:07And going back to Dan's point, I thought CJ Stroud was insane to turn down that offer before the season of 50 million per.
30:15And CJ Stroud's going to make a lot more than that after this year.
30:20I mean, the way he's been playing and he's basically, they have no running game and he's, you know, he's got all these weapons now too.
30:28That was a crazy game, by the way, to start the day off.
30:33It was a game that actually was the game of the day.
30:36Yeah, it was a game of the day. Two teams you think could play like a 13-10 game with good defenses and defenses didn't show up.
30:45The quarterback shined. I didn't want to play my Trevor Lawrence shares in that game and wind up getting 38 fantasy points,
30:52which I think he was QB one for the, the day, the week.
30:57That game was great on just every level. Yeah.
30:59Yeah, for sure. All right. What else we got guys?
31:03All right, Chris, you got any more? I'll just say Ken Walker is this year's, you know, 2026 Ken Walker equals 2025 Jonathan Taylor.
31:11Just every week, consistency, just a monster. Probably the guy that you need to win fantasy.
31:16You know, listen, there's a bunch of guys, the handful of guys that you need, but you don't want to see the
31:23Ken Walker owner when you log into your leagues that you're playing up against right now.
31:28You know, he's just, he's the offense in Kansas City, gets it done on the ground and through the air.
31:35And, you know, he's the home run pick this year, 2026, 2025 Jonathan Taylor.
31:40One observation I have real quick that is, I'm real nervous about is, uh, Gentty.
31:45I'm a Gentty owner. You know, I do have Washington on the teams, but Mike Washington is like in that, he's coming closer.
31:52Like that mirror is the object is a lot closer than you think.
31:56It's just after that Miami game, I know he's got the touchdowns and the yards per carry is like 2.8.
32:03It's just, then they don't play him in the second half.
32:07I, it's, I don't know. Yeah. And yet again, another 15, 16 point week for Gentty.
32:12So he's not murdering your fantasy team. No, he's not.
32:15He gives you like, you know, high end RB two, or just sneaks in the running back position so bad right now
32:22that, you know, he probably was an RB back end.
32:26Just don't watch the game. Just look at the box score.
32:29Gentty's getting it done. It's just, it's just like you want to tell you.
32:34It's, it's ugly how he gets there at the end of the day.
32:38Yeah. Weird, but it happens until, you know, the bottom falls out and it gives you the four point week and sits
32:45on the bench in the second half. But he looked, he looked spry to me early in the game.
32:52I don't know what happened in the second half, but.
32:55Yeah. I don't know either. I thought he was going to actually have a big game.
33:00Yeah. He was set up for that too. Yep.
33:03All right. Nelson, anything else? Um, I think I touched on this last week.
33:08And so I'm going to sound like a broken record, but I think when I was drafting Malik neighbors, he was a
33:15guy that early on, I was fading throughout the summer.
33:18And I was like, you know, injury, this and that.
33:22Um, and then I thought about it and I was like, you know what?
33:26In the second half of the season, this guy could be like a league winner where he gets a hundred percent healthy and he turns it on.
33:35And if somehow like you were able to sneak into the playoffs, like he's a guy that could win a shootout for you.
33:43And this is happening a lot sooner than I thought.
33:46And so my observation was two things. One, like Malik neighbors is like another guy that similar to what Chris is saying with like Ken Walker.
33:55Like if you have like Malik neighbors, like he looks really good a lot faster than I thought he was going to look this good.
34:03The other thing I was scared to death that if Jameis Winston got benched, that McCarthy, it was going to be like rest in peace, likely and neighbors.
34:12And that fourth quarter actually gave me some, uh, you know, I have some optimism that if McCarthy's named the starter here
34:19moving forward, which I think a lot of us are assuming that's going to be the case.
34:25That freaking kid, man. Holy crap. NFL record in those 11 minutes for me.
34:29Totally different than Minnesota. Like not even close. He looked confident.
34:33He was stepping back. And like he was just driving the ball.
34:37Like there was no like and layering throws. Where did that come from?
34:41I didn't see him where a single throw in Minnesota was crazy.
34:45Was it his first pass or second pass? He was like, this, this is not JJ McCarthy.
34:51I don't know who this is, but this is not JJ McCarthy.
34:55I've seen JJ McCarthy. But one question. Do you think, I think they start Jameis this week, sacrifice Jameis versus Houston.
35:02They get the bye and then have him come in.
35:05That's the smart thing to do. I think, I think you're right, Matt.
35:09That's the smart thing to do, but I don't know if they'll do it.
35:14I mean, I think Jameis is kind of earned enough and.
35:17He was so bad. I can't believe how bad Jameis was.
35:21And it was a dreams. It was a dream situation for him.
35:25Not only going into the game versus a bad defense at home coming off the game versus Washington.
35:31But then you get into the game script where you're like, all right, you know, you have two and a half quarters
35:38to play from behind and light up the defense and get your numbers.
35:42And for all of us that spot started, Winston hand up.
35:46I did in a bunch of leagues an absolute shit show.
35:50And I don't know what they do, but the time's ticking on Winston.
35:54They're going to go to McCarthy. And I have no clue who that was on the field because, you know, JJ McCarthy, I still will stand by sucks.
36:03But he earned it on for fantasy. I always thought this kid's got, he's got the profile you want.
36:09He can run. He has a strong arm. The problem was in whatever happened in Minnesota, you know, him and the coach
36:17didn't get along or he didn't want to listen.
36:20He couldn't put any touch on it on a pass.
36:23Some of those throws, some of those throws on Sunday were not like simple throws that that he was making.
36:30Those are throws that I did not see at all zero when he was in Minnesota.
36:35That that's the difference that I'm saying is like, I don't know if a light bulb came on, if it was just
36:42the perfect storm in that fourth quarter. But like he was playing out of his mind, like some of the throws that he was making.
36:50And I mean, it helps to that. Like they were.
36:54I don't even think the Saints. I'm trying to remember the game and I was watching and I was like, are they
37:01running more of like a prevent because, you know, they're up by so much.
37:05Right. So it's it's it's going to be easier for him to like kind of dink and dunk and get down the
37:13field and put up, you know, some garbage stats.
37:16Probably the case half true, but I'm still going to say like some of those throws that he was making.
37:22I was like, really? He surprised me. How about this?
37:25Let's bring it back to fantasy here. He's now an option, you know, on the waiver wire for everybody this week.
37:32And he comes attached to an elite wide receiver and an elite tight end.
37:37And he's a quarterback that runs. So now if you're the Bo Nix owner, if you're the.
37:43See ya. Yeah. If you're. I do think you guys.
37:46There's a lot of shit quarterbacks out there underperforming.
37:49You know, you have an option now to go in on a J.J.
37:53McCarthy and whether he starts or whether he doesn't.
37:56It's like stashing a running back. You know, you're stashing a quarterback that could potentially down the stretch with a bad defense attached to it in the Giants.
38:05Be a guy that maybe hits the board as a top 10 quarterback.
38:10We listen, Chris. Life comes at you fast sometimes.
38:13Goodbye, Justin Herbert. Bo Nix. Hello, J.J. McCarthy. Herbert.
38:15Hey, Chris. Yeah. The year is 2030. You're the Hurt owner.
38:19Yep. Yeah. The year is 2030. The World Cup is going on at the GST.
38:24And who walks in? J.J. McCarthy. Signed jersey on the GST wall.
38:28Hanging out. Crazier things have happened, Matt. Crazier things have happened.
38:32I show him right to the kitchen. I tell him, I know you still suck.
38:37He gets the security. So he's not getting a preferred booth then is what you're telling me.
38:42No, he doesn't get a booth. Paul doesn't like the Bo Nix slander.
38:46No. Definitely not. We'll get to Bo Nix, Paul.
38:49He's still dying in his orange pajamas. Yeah, I got a lot to say about that.
38:55He's taking orange pajamas over there. Should have seen how sad he was at his little party the other night.
39:01Watching his Broncos shit the bed as usual. I heard, I heard, I heard Vicaros getting 10% of all the clients signed that night.
39:09Paul, with all due respect, fuck Bo Nix, fuck Sean Payton.
39:13I can't stand any of those guys. I'm done.
39:16I'm done with that offense. Well, hold on. Since we're talking about this, the first thing, look, Bo Nix has been terrible.
39:23I'm not defending him. But the first six weeks, they did have a tough schedule.
39:28Really tough schedule. This week, Arizona and the rest of the schedule is really nice.
39:33I think if you have Bo Nix, you got to hold him at least one more week.
39:38I am with you, Matt. And see what happens versus Arizona and that upcoming schedule.
39:43Because that schedule's great. You got Arizona, then Kansas City, tough one, okay.
39:48But then Carolina, Vegas, Pittsburgh, Miami, Jets, Vegas again, Buffalo, New England.
39:52I mean, you know, it's not all cupcakes, but there's quite a few of them in there.
39:57I mean, I don't understand what the hell's going on in Denver, neither.
40:01Like, RJ Harvey looks really, really good. I don't have RJ Harvey.
40:05Yeah, but J.K. Dobbins is Payton's boy. Oh yeah, no, no, I'm happy.
40:10I have J.K. Dobbins and Dobbins got Arizona this week.
40:13What about when Coleman gets back? I mean, you know.
40:16It's going to be a shit show. It's just going to be a committee.
40:21Coleman is probably going to get involved a little bit also.
40:24Well, the hope is at some point. Payton loves rotating these freaking guys, man.
40:29But I mean, this week at Arizona, I mean.
40:32All right, so you have Bo Nix. Oh, you're not going to play J.D.
40:37Dobbins? Are you starting Bo? Are you starting? I am, Matt.
40:40Yeah. I'm playing. You're starting Bo Nix this week?
40:43I don't know the places where I got him.
40:46I don't necessarily want to. I'd rather, you know, put him on notice, see what he does against Arizona, and then go from there.
40:54But, you know. Yeah, I'm saying you got to hold him one more week and see what happens.
41:00You know, because a lot of these guys like Brissette could possibly, probably going to get traded at some point.
41:07Yeah, he's going to get traded or wrenched. Jameis is gone.
41:10So you got to either get J.J. Jameis is gone.
41:14I think there's going to be some nice bidding for him.
41:17You know, people interested in that. So like, what are your backup?
41:21You know, Aaron Rodgers is probably gone. The guy's been putting up and he has New Orleans this week.
41:27So if he was smart, you were buying him for this as well.
41:32So, rest of the year, who would you rather have, Bo Nix or Baker Mayfield?
41:37That's a tough question because I was a big Baker guy.
41:40And Baker sucked last year. We all said the injuries.
41:43I get it. We gave him the pass. That's the call this week.
41:48Baker's available in a couple of weeks. But before Baker hurt his phone.
41:52How about Geno? He really sucked. You got Omar Cooper back and he looked really good.
41:57Eventually, A.D. Mitchell comes back from injury. And all of a sudden, this offense, now he's got some serious weapons.
42:04Yeah, no. I have this in my notes. Like the Jets wide receiver core going forward, if they have those three guys,
42:11plus if they settle on one of these tight ends and Mason Taylor is playing well or Sadiq could ever, you know, shine again.
42:19You got those guys. I mean, Braylon Allen's just like taking over.
42:23I'm shitting my pants with my Brees Hall shares because I don't know if he's ever getting, you know.
42:29I just want to see him back this week, Matt, as a big Brees Hall owner.
42:34I think, you know, last week he got on the field the last couple of days.
42:40I know I'm sure people picked up on that.
42:43And, you know, you were hoping that that's a sign that he comes back.
42:47Usually coaches say, hey, listen, you can't lose it to injury.
42:51Braylon Allen looks good, though, but I still think Brees Hall comes back.
42:55And maybe he's not that RB one that you hoped for, but he's going to be at least with, again, how bad
43:02the running back position is right now in fantasy.
43:05He's going to be in everyone's starting lineup. And let's add Jordan Mason hopefully this week as another one.
43:12Get Ollie Gordon back into the mix. So a couple running backs coming back into the mix here in week seven.
43:19Yeah. Yeah. And on that point, I mean, this has been the year of the Saturday running back pickup.
43:25I think, you know, like last week you had Jawar Jordan, Roshon Johnson, Bam Knight, Audrick Estame, Jaleel McLaughlin in some places.
43:32I mean, you know, guys that you could just pick up off the waiver wire on Saturday night and throw your starting lineup on Sunday morning.
43:41And Dan, how bad are your teams that you were picking these guys up and putting them up?
43:47I got some teams that got problems at running back.
43:50Dan just listed my whole fucking roster. Yeah. I mean, all seriousness, Roshon Johnson is not getting nearly the amount of love that he deserves.
43:58And even if, you know, what's his name comes back in the next week or so, and he goes to the bench,
44:05in our format, he's a great bench guy to have if one of these guys goes down eventually.
44:11And he actually looked really good on Sunday. He outrushed and he outreceived Swift.
44:16Swift got, you know, the extra text. Roshon Johnson was available in one of my prime times, and I bid $123 on him.
44:23And I thought, all right, it's a fair bid.
44:26The backup bid was zero. 11 owners didn't bid $1 on Roshon Johnson going into this week.
44:32That my bid looked obviously ridiculous. I don't know what everyone else was thinking with Monunga ruled out.
44:38And Roshon Johnson gave what, 15, 16 fantasy points again?
44:41And he could have scored another touchdown. He went down at the end.
44:45I was like, bastard. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's a good point.
44:49Trust me, I'm heavily invested in Roshon. That's a guy that we were picking up.
44:54He's my most owned player in NFFC now. He's my, put it this way.
44:59I just looked. He's 49% owned. He's my most owned player that I have in NFFC for a total investment of $313,000.
45:06That's it? We got your game on Roshon? That's it?
45:09I have over $300,000 worth of Roshon. All right.
45:12But listen, let's go backfield, mate. You know, Swift will look really good again.
45:17And Swift is in this weird holding pattern where every week he doesn't practice for a few days.
45:23Everybody's like, oh, is he out? All the medical doctors.
45:26Oh, by the way, moment of silence. Shout out to losing Jesse Morse this past week.
45:31Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. What a big hit.
45:34The world is the most. Big loss for the fantasy community losing.
45:38I don't know who's going to jump on Twitter and say, oh, that's a hamstring.
45:43He's out three weeks now. A second after the guy goes down and probably be wrong.
45:49But no, no, no, no. It actually his thing is he lists like five different injuries.
45:54Yeah. It's going to be one of them. Yeah.
45:57One of them is going to be right. I remember him arguing with Christian Watson's father was the greatest Twitter interactions ever.
46:04He blocked me. He blocked me last year because I brought up the point that on every Friday he would wait until
46:11the, you know, the injury report would come out.
46:14Each team would send out, you know, like, all right, this guy's not playing this week.
46:20This one, it would be. And then he would tweet out a whole list of players and his prediction for the weekend of if they're in or out.
46:2990% of them already had a designation of in or out.
46:32And then he would come back on Saturday and give his accuracy out of like, oh, these 50 players.
46:39I was 49 out of 50. I was like, everybody knew.
46:42Everybody knew 45 of these. So, you know, it's like, what are we doing here?
46:47Oh, man. Sorry. That guy's too easy to dunk on.
46:50All right. What else? Anybody else? Anybody else? Can we talk about the Cowboys and their Flournoy problem?
46:56Yes, please. Because he's really good. Why is that a problem?
47:00He gets way too much involved. What's the problem?
47:03Is he a problem for Pickens owners? He's a problem for Pickens owners.
47:07And he dings Lamb a little too. I think he's a problem for both.
47:12You know who dings Lamb and Pickens? Fuck Dak.
47:15That's who he is. Oh, I mean. Blank's terrible.
47:18That guy looks lost the last two weeks. And his line cannot pick up a blitz.
47:23The whole, all you have to do is blitz the Cowboys because the line can't pick it up.
47:29They have no hot receiver. Dak looks totally lost every time.
47:33And the coaching staff does nothing week after week.
47:36It's like, you know, Groundhog Day, the same thing over and over.
47:40You know, it's like teams are just coming in and going.
47:43I agree with you, Dan. It's bad coaching in Dallas.
47:46Okay. Okay. Schottenheimer is not a very good coach.
47:49Okay. I think he's just above average. Okay. Because you can't, this offense, it has too much talent for it to fail two weeks in a row.
47:58You had a cupcake matchup last week on Thursday night and at home and you couldn't get it done.
48:05Okay. You struggled. And then Sunday night should have been a, as Chris says, a fantasy carnival.
48:10Okay. Or is Dan, Dan, which one when you, you son of a bitch, Nelson.
48:15Which one? Both of you guys. Whatever. Yeah. I started and Chris picked it up.
48:20It should have been a fantasy carnival. And, and they, the O-line coaching is terrible because they actually have a good O-line.
48:27So I'm going to say it's, it's scheme and coaching that that's the problem because I agree with you, Dan.
48:34I've noticed that when they're blitzing, they're not picking up the blitzers and they're not adjusting the protection, which is not giving Dak enough time.
48:42So I agree with that part in giving Dak a little bit of a pass there where he's just backpedaling and throwing it.
48:50But like something, this has got to get fixed because if not, like, you know.
48:55And Nelson, doesn't it seem like there's no hot read ever?
48:58I mean, the, the hot read almost looks like they tried a couple of times where they were trying to dump it
49:05off to Javante Williams or whatever, but like, it just gets blown up or whatever.
49:10But like, you can't have Pickens and CD running deep routes when you know the defense, that's all they're trying to do is constantly blitz you.
49:19You got to make them pay, man. Like you, you got to be able to set up the protection and then those
49:26two receivers should be able to, there's only like two or three corners in the NFL that should be able to cover those fuckers.
49:34Okay. Other than that, those guys should win one-on-one every single time.
49:38I mean, I think Minecraft is coming to Dallas.
49:41I think Mike Tomlin is going to get paid a lot of money.
49:45I, yeah, you, you're probably right with that. One thing I noticed with that game on the Dallas side is I think
49:52they're trying to turn that tight end room over to the kids span.
49:57Yeah. And kind of fade out, you know, Dan's boy Ferguson.
50:00Kids more athletic, could get up the field a little bit.
50:04So he's a little bit of an under the radar pickup for fantasy.
50:08Maybe he becomes the third option with four noise mixing and matching.
50:12Maybe that's what they need as an offense is, you know, a third option or that sneaky tight end.
50:18That's a, you know, a move tight end all around the field.
50:22Ricardo giving out possible anytime touchdowns this weekend. There you go.
50:26Backup tight end. Backup tight ends. Monday night in the elimination game.
50:30Well, he's not even a backup tight end. They started span forces.
50:34Yeah. I mean, he's taken over, but I'm saying it really is a thing to look at.
50:39Yeah. Yeah, for sure. All right. Well, let's, let's dive in.
50:43We want to talk about the Giants backfield. Yeah, that's exactly right.
50:47With Najee getting, getting cut right before the show.
50:50Yeah. So go ahead, Nelson. What do you, what do you got?
50:54What are you, what are you thinking here? I don't have it.
50:58Obviously Steve is not going to listen to you.
51:01The Greek is, you know, he thinks you're wrong, but.
51:04Listen, he was right on Tyrone Tracy. Like that's the guy that produced this week and, and has the most value going forward.
51:12Um, with Scadaboo, I, I looked at it as it was more punishment.
51:16Okay. Despite Harbaugh saying it wasn't by design or whatever.
51:19Yes, it was like, don't, don't try to make like us try to like you're smarter than us.
51:25Okay. You punished him because of the fumbling. Uh, he's missing on past protections and, and, and not picking up, you know, the, the protections properly.
51:34So they, they wanted to make a change. They wanted to make a move.
51:38My worry is Scadaboo is now going to come back into the mix.
51:43And is it going to be a committee where they involve Singletary?
51:47If Singletary is involved, I think it gets real messy.
51:50If, if, if they say like, okay, Singletary is out of the equation and it's just going to be Scadaboo and Tracy.
51:57Then I think now you've got like, you've got viable options.
52:01I think Scadaboo moving forward could be good. I think Tracy moving forward could be good, but like if Singletary is in
52:08the mix, I think it, it just becomes a little bit of a shit show.
52:13Yeah. I, I gotta think, uh, Scadaboo is the bet.
52:16Look, Tracy got the two touchdowns. He had that one nice pass catch.
52:21He got 17 yards around into the end zone, but he's not really good running back in.
52:26And he's not a guy that can take that load too.
52:30I think Scadaboo is better. You know, hopefully they got the bar coming up.
52:34He gets, you know, that rest and look, Tracy fumbles a lot too.
52:39So both of them, you have issues there. So Nelson's right.
52:42If, if Singletary is involved, then it's just shit show for everyone.
52:46But hopefully it's, you know, uh, Scadaboo Tracy and we go from there.
52:50I was, I was going to say before this Najee Harris release 10 minutes ago, the whole backfield is unplayable, obviously.
52:57Uh, even though Tracy came in and, um, you know, got a nice 19 point game out of nowhere.
53:04This guy was an active early in the season.
53:07He was the fourth guy. Um, it's, it's a mess.
53:10And, you know, it's similar to the Broncos backfield.
53:13It's similar to the chargers backfield where all three guys, you look at them, you're like, oh, they should be, you know,
53:20can we get them in the lineup? And you can't play any of them, you know, right now in, in charger land,
53:27Hampton Mitchell and by dollar all unplayable, you know, the same way.
53:31What do you do as a Scadaboo owner, this going into this Sunday, do you play him again?
53:37You know, it could be Tracy and Singletary with Scadaboo.
53:40It's just a wing and a prayer. I'll say this though.
53:44I think Tracy is a guy that I guess if you're going to look at the three of them going into week
53:51seven would be the guy that maybe you could sneak in as a, as a desperation, RB to a flex play.
53:58I would like him this week if he's going to be the pass catching back versus Houston.
54:04I mean, Houston's now what 10 point favorites in this game.
54:07The Greek says, yeah, Tracy was in the doghouse early in the season.
54:12Yeah. But you know what? Now Scadaboo is in the doghouse.
54:15Tracy's out of the doghouse. Singletary. What the hell is he?
54:19He's just, you know, uh, He's just a mess.
54:22He's a mess. You know, you just need one more guy to get out of the mix there and maybe you're talking here.
54:30Harbaugh has no allegiance to any of these guys.
54:32He didn't draft any of them. He didn't bring any of them onto the team.
54:37You know, they were there. Listen, they're in first place in the NFC East, right?
54:42So they're, they're competing. Okay. So this is not a lost season.
54:46We're not talking about a team that's like, you know, in rebuild mode.
54:51They're, they're here to win. They, and they have a great opportunity to take this division.
54:56I wouldn't be surprised if they, if no one develops like a hot hand and kind of takes the bull by the horns.
55:03I wouldn't be surprised if they bring in a running back to kind of like be the guy because Scadaboo to me,
55:11like I was invested in Scadaboo a little bit, like nothing crazy, but I was interested in him in the fifth round.
55:18Not, not invested in him as much as State Farm.
55:21Not at no, not as much. So like for me, like, listen, I got him in some key, like some spots that
55:28I would like for him to perform. I've got Tyrone Tracy, I would like for him to perform, but I could, I
55:36could see a situation where like Scadaboo has not looked good all year.
55:40Okay. And it goes back. It, it actually, I went against my, my whole process of fading running backs that have the tight rope surgery.
55:48And this is dating back to Tony Pollard when he had the surgery with the Cowboys, those kinds of running backs the following year, they don't do good.
55:57Okay. Judkins is the same thing. He's gotten the fantasy points for you, but if you're really watching the game, Judkins does not look good to me.
56:06Okay. Scadaboo does not look good to me. So I could see a situation where they bring in a running back.
56:13So that's just my, that's my thought. And, but Nelson, here's the crazy part.
56:18Remember week one versus Dallas Scadaboo look great. It's, it's the adrenaline.
56:22It's, you know, there's, there's some factors. Okay. It's week one.
56:25It's against freaking Dallas. Ever since then, as like, he's been getting touches and everything.
56:30I think he's kind of gone downhill. Like, like he just doesn't look like he's got the same explosion as he did last year.
56:38I agree. I think coming out of the bar is going to be interesting.
56:43I think the Giants are going to get hosed this weekend.
56:46And we see how things come out after week eight.
56:50I mean, look, the NFC East, they tied a record or whatever.
56:54Back to back weeks, the division won zero games and they played each other.
56:58Yeah. I still think Dallas winds up winning this division.
57:02I mean, Dallas? It's going to, yeah, Dallas. I still think that Dallas wins this division.
57:07Why? Philly's gone. Philly might not win a game the rest of the year.
57:11Hold on. Philly? No. The Philadelphia Eagle defense deserves so much credit for what they've done these last three weeks.
57:18First, the Rams, where if they get in, they win that game.
57:22Instead, they get stopped at the goal line and the Rams won it on the march down.
57:28Jacksonville, they should have beat the coach kicks in the end zone.
57:31Sure. And against Carolina, they played good defense. I mean, they played with McGee, but, you know, this is going to turn
57:39into the old NFC North, you know, division where at the end of the year, you know, the team that's eight and
57:46nine wins the East and is the four seed and hosts the home game.
57:51That's most likely the case, Chris, where it's going to be a team with a 500 record that wins this division.
57:57But what I will say, if we're talking like real football, I believe teams that end up, you know, performing well and
58:05winning their division, they usually have a legit defense.
58:08And the Eagles at least have that. And I don't think McKee is like a total shitter.
58:13Like, I think he's capable when this offense is healthy and they get the offensive line right and they get Saquon back.
58:21There's, there's a possibility that this offense is just good enough and that the defense carries them with Dallas.
58:27I look one thing with Dallas, their defense sucks is, is the problem with the Giants.
58:32I think the Giants can be competitive because I actually think their defenses like they got some pieces, like it's somewhat decent.
58:39It's a team that sells off like Philly did already and loses their starting quarterback.
58:44They traded off their offensive lineman guy retires. This team is not going to win a division, a team like Dallas, even
58:51though they're struggling right now, they're at least still pushing for, you know, they, they still have their starting franchise quarterback under center.
58:59They still have their star players. You know, they trade for Joey Porter.
59:03They're making moves to win the division. I still think Dallas wins this division pretty easily by the, by the time the season ends.
59:11I just, I just, yeah. Listen, it sounds crazy right now, but every one of these teams, Washington just lost Terry McLaurin
59:18and they're a bunch of shit and, and the Giants suck and they're on their third string quarterback.
59:24Uh, and you know, so we'll see. The only thing I will, I will say about the Eagles, cause I, I had
59:32that same thought process, like where you connect the dots and you're like, all right, they're just gonna fire sale and, and call it a season and rebuild.
59:41There's certain cities that you just don't rebuild them.
59:44And, and I feel like Philly is one of those cities where you're not gonna, you're not rebuilding the Eagles that like they weren't set up that way.
59:53And I don't think that that's going to be the case.
59:57I will say one thing when the hurts news injury broke.
60:00And I think I put this in the group chat.
60:03Um, I said upgrade at quarterback. Like if I, you know, like I'm a pretty big Devonta Smith owner.
60:10Uh, we have got our chairs, Nelson. I know you're big on Goddard.
60:14I'll take, I'll take, uh, Tanner McGee, um, instead of hurts.
60:18I am a notorious Jalen hurts hater. I think he's terrible.
60:21I think he's a terrible thrower of the ball.
60:24Um, uh, and, and it showed, you know, right out.
60:28He double digit target Devonta Smith, 14 targets. I know the game script played, uh, well for that, but if I'm a
60:35Devonta Smith owner, I wasn't like, you know, like neighbors was when, um, you know, dart went down.
60:41And maybe that's a bad example. Cause Winston, I was like, all right, that's good.
60:46But I'm talking, but I'm talking when the starting quarterback goes down, you usually like, oh shit, my wife's fever's in trouble.
60:53But I was unfazed with that. I actually was like, all right, good.
60:57This is good for Devonta. I mean, for Devonta, I think it is.
61:01Even with like Saquon. I mean, he's kind of one of those older guys that seems to be breaking down at this point in his career.
61:10Uh, I don't know how healthy he's going to be coming back from this hamstring injury that looked a lot more, I
61:17guess, a lot worse than maybe what it was.
61:20But, uh, and if they get like tank back at some point or their other running backs, I, I still think like
61:27this, like Nelson said, division is just so awful.
61:30I don't think the giants are a good team.
61:33They got a couple of, like Nelson said, that draft pick they got that landed into their lap with the pit with the fifth pair.
61:42Nick, uh, Reese, that kid looks legit. Yeah. But I mean, the saints went in there and basically blew their doors off.
61:49Which was crazy. They were lucky to come back against Washington.
61:52They were getting dominated. This is a fraudulent, fraudulent team.
61:56With as bad as the saints had looked with as bad as the saints have looked at the past bunch of weeks
62:03to come into New Jersey and below the doors off a division leader like the giants in a good spot like that.
62:10And they were favored by a point. For the giants.
62:13A hundred percent. And just for the, the, you know, someone in the comments said say Quan Barkley's bags are packed.
62:20The giants should call them. Uh, there's no way the Eagles are trading Barkley back to the giants, uh, for running back help.
62:28But I will say this about big names to look out for.
62:32Uh, it was starting to a little bit of a rumor yesterday.
62:36Don't be surprised if the cult ship out Jonathan Taylor to a, to a, um, you know, contender, you know, the cult
62:43season's over and they got to make up for those picks.
62:47I don't know if they're going to trade the face of the franchise though, Chris.
62:52Yeah. I mean, listen, uh, that's a team that looks like it's, it's in rebuild mode.
62:57It's, it's, they are. I mean, you know, and on a, on a certain level, they definitely should.
63:03I mean, you know, that's the right football move is to, to send out Taylor, but I don't know if the front office has got the, the stones.
63:12I mean, how many, how many years is Jonathan Taylor in the league now?
63:17This is probably his luck. But you're going to, you're going to, this is a, this is a, you know, an interim GM in there.
63:25He's going to have to get the permission of the owner.
63:28Well, the owner, she's going to make the call.
63:31If she's going to be the one to make the call.
63:35Exactly. And is she going to be willing to do that?
63:39For a first round draft pick to send them to Denver or, or one of these teams?
63:44Yeah. I don't know if you're getting a, I don't know if you're getting a, Jonathan Taylor.
63:50You just want it. Yeah, you are. Yeah. Fuck.
63:53Yeah, you are. Depends on the deal, I guess, but I am, I'm, I'm not holding my breath waiting for that trade.
64:00Um, I, I, I do think to, uh, to the point that Matt made in our, our group chat, um, BTJ is
64:07probably the most tradable asset out there. It, as long as you're talking about teams that aren't in fire sale mode, um,
64:15it, it just seems like the Jaguars. I mean, Kansas city seems like the perfect spot for that guy.
64:21They lost Thornton. He could play that role. Perfect.
64:24They got the run. They got the explosive running back.
64:27You got the Kelsey and rice guys that can play over the middle short range.
64:32And it's, you know, even, or even the Rams.
64:35I mean, the Rams don't ever shy from draft picks.
64:38So, you know, I think the, it was competitive this year and, and they're missing that.
64:44I think they need a legit wide receiver. Who was that Nelson?
64:47Who was that? The Raiders. Yeah. Yeah. He would, he would, he would be nice there too.
64:53I agree with that. Yeah. I think, I think he's definitely a very tradable asset.
64:58You know, I don't, I don't know if anybody.
65:01What do you, what do you get from? What do you give up for Brian Thomas?
65:06A sixth rounder? Like fifth, sixth rounder. Oh yeah.
65:09All from great. Why would, why would he go for a fifth or sixth when Marv went for a second and he
65:16had a, he had a great year. That was a, that was a bad, that was a bad trade for you.
65:23Yeah. I know, but there's not another team that's going to make a stupid mistake out of these 32.
65:30At least here's the thing. At least Marv was playing full time in, in Arizona's offense.
65:35Uh, Thomas is down to 20% snaps. He is.
65:38I hear that. He is droppable. Droppable. Yeah. I would say I wouldn't drop him.
65:43No, no, no. If he goes to Kansas City.
65:46Droppable. Not until after November 10th. Yeah. He's got it.
65:49Yeah. You can drop, if he's still on the Jaguars November 10th after the trade deadline, then you can drop.
65:56Or what about this? What about like San Francisco?
65:59If Mike Evans is done. That's another. All the receivers.
66:02That's a good call, Matt. Brian Thomas out to San Francisco for the, you know, to, to, to.
66:08I think there's going to be some moves. Uh, this trade deadline.
66:12There should be. There should be. There should be more trading in the NFL.
66:16The NFL trade deadline has gotten a lot better.
66:19I mean, last year we saw what? Uh, Myers.
66:22Who was, uh, we saw another receiver. We saw a couple of receivers move.
66:27Mm-hmm. You know, it's getting better and better this year.
66:30Yeah. It's got a long way to go though.
66:33No doubt about that. I'll give, I'll give you guys a prediction.
66:37That is going to be a little shocking. There's going to be before the trade, by the trade deadline, there's going to
66:44be a new running back in Cincinnati, a new starting running back.
66:48Ooh. I mean. I mean. First rounder. Yeah. Bringing in a running back.
66:53Bringing in a running back to replace a first round draft pick.
66:56P. Ryan. In fantasy. First round draft pick in fantasy.
67:00I obviously, yeah. Yeah. But. That's my pitch. Over P.
67:03Ryan, you know, especially if you have Chase Brown.
67:06Yeah. You know, things. It's just not looking good.
67:09Yeah. No, no, no. I like that. I dropped a couple of P.
67:13Ryan shares just before week five. And then, of course, P.
67:17Ryan goes nuts in week five. And it's like, okay, now I got to, had to go spend money and get them back.
67:24You know, the, the, one of the biggest farces of a draft season was, you know, the, the Parker Washington versus Brian Thomas debate.
67:32It's, it's almost as bad as you know, it is bad.
67:36It's worse than the Michael Wilson versus Marvin Harrison fifth round, sixth round debate.
67:41Things couldn't have been way off more than, than the Parker Washington versus Brian Thomas.
67:45To the point now where, you know, I'm bringing this up because Brenton strange is actually their, their third target or to be, you know, with Jacoby Myers.
67:55And he's a playable tight end as well going forward.
67:58So another tight end that's, you know, getting in starting lineups comfortably.
68:02So I will, I will say this, Chris, I didn't think there was a debate between Parker and Thomas for me, but
68:09I was not a fan of Parker Washington. Okay.
68:12Like I thought like the three, four turn was too early for Parker.
68:16I was willing to take them like later in the fourth round.
68:20I was more interested in him. So I, I'm, I'm not a Parker Washington truther this year.
68:26Last year I was, is the funny thing. Okay.
68:29So I, I should have just doubled down, but my issue was this.
68:33I, I knew he was a better option than Thomas.
68:36It was the fact that I felt like this offense was going to spread it around and that Parker Washington wasn't going
68:44to be like a focal point of the offense.
68:47It was going to be one of those, like, just it's maddening.
68:51Like you're starting them. He puts up six, one week, then he puts up 20 the next week.
68:57And, and they, you know, Trevor Lawrence just wants to spread the ball around.
69:01It's kind of like the theory with like the bills and Josh Allen with when they shipped out Stefan digs.
69:08It was kind of like, let's get some weapons for Allen, but let the dude just spread the ball around.
69:14He doesn't want to be forcing it. Yeah. Yeah.
69:17Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Can we talk about Arizona real quick?
69:21Since we are, since you mentioned Michael Wilson, it looks like the bone identity.
69:25It might be the guy right now to own cause they're double team in Wilson.
69:30They're double team in McBride and born is, you know, seems like the beneficiary.
69:35Not that I'm saying he's going to be like some league winner, but.
69:39Solid piece, man. Yeah. Yeah. The one thing about Marv, as much as he could have been dog shit, he did draw
69:46attention and open things up for everybody. It's a two, it's a two game sample size, Matt.
69:52Uh, so I'm going to say it's still kind of small, but I agree with you that it's starting to look like that.
69:59Even if we, we have all this negativity towards Marvin Harrison, he in NFL real NFL football terms, he kept the defenses on us.
70:07And in these two games, the lions, they don't, they bracketed Michael Wilson in that game.
70:13That's why Wilson didn't get shit done in a game that was like, what was like, he was going to smoke, you know, the, the lions defense.
70:21And then it's been, and then it was the same thing last week where you're like, okay, you figure Wilson's going to
70:29do something like he's getting the targets or whatever, but he's got more defensive attention the last two weeks with Marv gone.
70:36Yeah. I think principal there, he's been kind of, you know, brought to the point where he's just fairly competent.
70:43Yeah. I think if you're the Michael Wilson owner after the Harrison trade, if you, uh, you know, I said that, you
70:50know, huge upgrade from Michael Wilson, I still think that, um, you know, going forward.
70:55I thought that was, I thought that was so not the gun.
70:59Is that what you're saying? So Chris, I'm going to disagree just a little bit because I didn't think the Marvin Harrison
71:06trade was like Michael Wilson to the moon. Michael Wilson was already to the moon.
71:11Like he was getting it done. Harrison was only seeing two or three targets a game.
71:16Like, so like, yeah, sorry. Again. No, I'm just saying like, I didn't think anything was going to change really in the offense for Wilson.
71:24Like it wasn't going to be better for Wilson.
71:27I looked at it as like, Wilson was already getting the targets.
71:31He was already getting it done with Harrison there.
71:34You're talking about like two to three, four vacated targets with Harrison gone.
71:38Yeah. Fair point. Can't argue it. I thought, you know, maybe you look at Wilson as like a high end wide receiver
71:46too, after that trade, but you know, maybe he is just what he is and it's a wide receiver three for your fantasy team.
71:54And, you know, uh, he's really good. He's really solid, but he does not have his weeks.
71:59He'll have his weeks, but he does not enter the territory of like, like, you know, the Malik neighbors and those guys.
72:06Like, I feel like, I think we got ahead of ourselves though, a little bit, like in, in general, like the general
72:14population probably was like Wilson, like 17 targets in a game.
72:17Like he's going to be a PPR monster. And that's not who he is.
72:22Like he's really good, really solid, but he's not in that upper echelon.
72:26Well, we're touching on, uh, NFC West teams in Arizona.
72:29Could we flip it over to the Rams? And I want to tie in, uh, Nelson, uh, you know, is your article,
72:37your fab article up at FTN yet this week?
72:40Yeah. What is the Rams fallout of losing Devante Adams in fab this week?
72:44We got, uh, I'm going to give some free stuff.
72:48Let me, let me give out some free stuff.
72:51Give people a taste. Let them get a taste.
72:53Let them get a little taste. Not the whole case, but give them a little taste.
72:59I'm a subscriber. I don't know about this. It's like going to, it's like going to Carvel.
73:04Yeah. Like a little sample of the ice cream.
73:07And you're like, here, you like this rocky road?
73:10Yeah. And then you're like, oh, give me a whole cone of rocky road.
73:15Give me a little dump. We're going to give them just a little bump.
73:19Oh, well, Nelson, we just turned it into a, yeah.
73:23Chris was going with the ice cream take. I was going with the ice cream.
73:28We've got his college days over here now. Yeah.
73:31Nelson's talking his college days. Uh, Dan's all excited.
73:34Look at Dan. Dan's all excited. Remember Woodstock? We were partying though.
73:38I think I spooked him. Fuck him. Hey, come on.
73:41We, we know I was too old for Woodstock.
73:44Ooh. Let's go. Um, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Is the, is the pickup of the week.
73:49And I think that he warrants, uh, a bid range of 30 to a hundred dollars, depending on how desperate you are at wide receiver.
73:57I think he had his spike week in week three against Denver.
74:01So you've already seen him. I believe Puka was out that game and he was playing pretty much full snaps.
74:08So I think that he's the logical guy that comes in and takes over for Adams and starts seeing some extra targets.
74:15And then the second guy. Okay. I, I, I'm giving away free stuff, man.
74:19Uh, the second guy is Terrence Ferguson. Okay. You stash him away if he's available because I think he's the other guy,
74:27especially in the red zone, that's going to benefit from Devante Adams, uh, absence.
74:31All right. And, and one last question on this.
74:34I won't let you sell the farm here, Nelson, but what do you do if you're the Devante Adams owner?
74:41Is he an easy drop? Easy drop. Easy drop.
74:44Okay. Easy drop. Okay. Six to 10 weeks. Uh, um, the only slight hope I would give to people is if you're
74:51the team that's up top in your league and you're the Adams owner and the top, you know, one or two and
74:58points, and it comes back that your, um, you know, that, that is diagnosis is six weeks and you get them back in week 12 or 13.
75:07And you're taking that team into the playoffs. Do you, do you want to be that guy that dropped Adams?
75:14I mean, I guess that's the only way you keep a Devante Adams is if you're in a good spot right now
75:21after six weeks and maybe you could keep them as the 20th man on the bench.
75:26That's a big range, right? Six to 10. You know, you, so the, the way I look at it is we're in
75:33week seven by the time he comes back and he ramps up.
75:37Okay. Cause this is something where like it's to his, his knee, you know, he's not going to be running.
75:44He's not doing anything. Yeah. So by the time he comes back, you're talking week 14 or 15 for, for this guy.
75:51Yeah. I don't know. I remember he's going to have surgery too.
75:55They're going to like do some kind of clean out of the area or something like that to try to promote faster healing.
76:03But, um, I don't know, going under the knife on that, that, that to me seems like they're probably talking a longer timeframe than a shorter timeframe.
76:12Just the disaster for the, uh, the Ram season, uh, you know, for the perennial Super Bowl favorites, uh, complete disaster wiping out.
76:19Right. Right. Chris. That's more losing at home. Uh, you know, to a 13 point dog, uh, just a absolute disaster right now.
76:27I still think they're better than most of the teams out there though.
76:31All these three and off four and two teams or this and that.
76:35Oh, that's the end of the week though. The Rams.
76:39Cause they're, they're probably not winning the division, right?
76:42Are we, are we in agreement? 49ers. Yeah. 49ers.
76:44Right. Right. Yeah. Okay. So what happens that do the Rams make the playoffs this year?
76:50I think so. Yeah. More than likely, but it's going to be against, um, you know, whoever's in second or third place
76:57in the NFC North is, is basically what it comes down to.
77:01Um, my favorite stat of the week though, is that the Cardinals have more wins and, uh, in the, in LA stadium than the Chargers and Rams combined.
77:10My favorite one that I, that I saw Dan, I liked that one, but my favorite one was miles Garrett gets traded
77:17to the Rams and the Rams become the Browns.
77:20That was a good one too. Uh, my internet froze up.
77:24What did you say about Ferguson? I heard that.
77:27I didn't like him. Uh, that's using a fake internet froze up.
77:31He wants. Yeah. No, no, no. I'll repeat what I said.
77:35I said, Terrence Ferguson sucks and he's on IR and he's a, he's a wasted pickup and hold drop them, you know, move on.
77:42I think Higby gets a big boost. I know he didn't have the game this week.
77:48He'd been pretty awesome for the last three weeks.
77:51I've been playing Higby in a lot of places.
77:54I mean, I picked him up right away when Ferguson went down.
77:58I've been putting him in my lineup where I need him.
78:01And, uh, he's been coming through this last week was the first time he did.
78:06I think Higby Parkinson is definitely. He's listening to Davis Allen.
78:10They got 42 tight ends and Ferguson hasn't even, uh, you know, come back yet.
78:15But see, I think the difference with Ferguson is like with, uh, like Bowers and those types, they are tight ends, but
78:22they line them up in the wide receiver roles.
78:25Like they don't play the tight end position. Like Brock Bowers has not played the tight end position probably all year.
78:32And he's a tight end. Mm-hmm. I'm just waiting to see if Nelson will ever let Matt off the hook here.
78:39With what? Ferguson. Oh, with Ferguson? I'm not. What's, what's, what's the hook to get off?
78:44Ferguson did shit week one. He looked awesome versus the Giants.
78:48Yep. And then, then against the Broncos when he got hurt, if he doesn't throw the ball to Higby and throws it to him, he throws a touchdown.
78:57He was wide open. There was nobody there. Oh, so Matt, you, so you're, you were being serious that your internet froze and you didn't hear what?
79:06I'm serious. I'm using a hotspot. I thought that was like your, I thought that was like your plate at getting to talking about Terrence Ferguson again.
79:15Okay. I'm using a hotspot, which seems to be for the most part better than Dan and Chris's internet.
79:21So listen, listen, I, I said, if he's available in your league, he's the sneaky pickup to grab right now, stash him.
79:28He's going to be back. I believe in like one or two weeks.
79:32I think it's, it's been all right. I've been picking up Jonathan Brooks and him the last couple of weeks.
79:39Yeah. So I, I think he's a good pickup because I think he'll see more targets in the red zone where like,
79:46that was kind of like Adam's, you know, forte.
79:49Okay. And now I think Ferguson will see a lot of those.
79:53Yeah. Poor Matt was looking like a lost puppy when you were dissing Ferguson there for a minute.
79:59No, I think you are joking. Yep. All right.
80:02Let's, let's talk a little bit about the bears offense, which I thought looked, um, you know, better than it did.
80:09Well, Colston Loveland season started. Yeah. Yeah. Colston Loveland season started.
80:12I thought, I thought Caleb did a better job this week than he did week one.
80:18Um, and I think part of it probably is, um, they got Trapilo back, um, at left tackle, which meant Loveland could
80:25leak out a little bit more and wasn't having to go in there and chip and all that kind of stuff.
80:32Um, and so he was more like a regular target rather than somebody who was getting into a pattern late and then,
80:39you know, was becoming kind of a desperation option for, for Williams.
80:43Um, so to me, this kind of changes the narrative on Loveland a little bit.
80:48That just what I saw this past week, I mean, you know, we still need to confirm it, but I'm a lot
80:55more back in on Loveland than I was two weeks ago.
80:59Is this that true from Sunday that Caleb's a doubt was 3.6?
81:03Cause I keep seeing things hold on 36. So yeah, they were just trying to get, there was a lot of easy
81:10completions, Matt, but still 30 for 36. I'm just move the offense.
81:14People are open. Let's do it. Yeah. I mean, the only guy that's really suffered this year.
81:20I mean, pretty much every week it seems is, uh, Rome.
81:23Yeah. He seems to be- But Rome's time is coming.
81:26I'm not worried about Rome. Rome is on the field more than anybody.
81:31Yeah. I mean, he's on the field way more than- I know, but isn't that a bigger indictment?
81:37Well, well, this weekend it wasn't even close. Like Rome played like all the snaps.
81:42Like a hundred percent of snaps. And they play like 40% of the snaps.
81:46And then Burden. Yeah, exactly. And then Burden and Raymond played like 40% of the, of the snaps, which is crazy.
81:53Like that's yeah. And to Matt's point, that's Rome's role though.
81:57I mean, he's going to be that deep guy.
82:00He's going to be the guy that, you know, He's becoming the Marvin Harrison.
82:04That's what it looks like. Yeah. Yeah. He, he's the guy that keeps the defenses honest, but the offense is going to
82:12move with the running game, Caleb's legs, and it's Loveland and Burden that are going to move the chains.
82:18Yep. Yeah. I'll say that I'm excited now about the bears.
82:21It's been, you know, a bumpy road after week one with injuries, bad weather, yada, yada, whatever.
82:27They're all healthy in the wide receiver and tight end room.
82:31Caleb's back to being under center. O-line solid. I think, I think if you're the bears investor in their skill position players going forward.
82:39Now I think you're going to get what you hope for.
82:42I agree with Chris. I just, I just hate having a root for this corn ball.
82:47Like that video he posted. He's just such a goober.
82:51And that's me being, being nice. Yep. All right.
82:54I think we covered most of the things. Any curious, do you guys see any players on the, the downswing that you're getting nervous about starting?
83:02Yeah. I, I gotta consider, I gotta, I keep putting Josh downs in my lineups each week and getting disappointed.
83:09And you know, every week it looks like this is going to be a huge Josh downs game.
83:15And then this week past week comes, they rule out Tyler Warren.
83:19You think there's going to be more targets and, and everything for him in a great matchup.
83:24And it's just eight shit points again. And it's, it's just a disappointment.
83:29You know I keep making the comparison cause they were right there neck and neck on the draft board this year.
83:35You know, if you drafted Josh downs, you were hoping he was going to be the Matthew golden.
83:41You know, that guy that you drafted as your wide or slash five, but became your wide receiver two and production.
83:48Only one of them did. Golden's been one of the best picks.
83:52And speaking of gold, that golden just pops off the screen.
83:56I know he dropped a couple of touchdowns, so maybe that sounds stupid, but just, he looks the part, he gets the targets.
84:03He's in the right offense. Golden's a smash pick.
84:06Uh, downs is not, and I gotta figure out what we're doing.
84:10I will say this. Um, what it was brutal because obviously I have a lot of Matthew golden and key spots and everything.
84:18So I was hoping for that huge 40 point type of type of game and he didn't drop those, but I don't
84:25necessarily like, I don't concern myself too much when guys are dropping passes necessarily.
84:30Uh, because yeah. At other points in the game, he made like some really great, like tough catches.
84:36So I, and everything I've, I heard throughout the summer was like, he's got awesome hands.
84:41He's catching everything. Yeah. So I think, you know, those things you're going to have those type of games or whatever, but
84:48the key to it all that I, I worry more about a wide receiver.
84:53Is he getting open? Okay. Can he get himself open?
84:56If you can get them open, you know, the drops, you know, they'll take care of themselves.
85:02That's the key. If a receiver can't get open, you're not, you're not getting targets.
85:07Right. Yeah. Uh, going back to that Indianapolis, Tennessee, I, I, which is name had a great matchup too.
85:13Uh, what the hell is his name? From the Giants.
85:16I'm sorry. Carnell Tate. Not Tate. He had a great game, but the other guy.
85:21I mean, on the Colts. No, on the Titans from the Giants.
85:25Wondell Robinson. Wondell and Josh Downs had two, you know, on paper, fantastic matchups.
85:30They both disappointed. That game was so insane. The Colts had 399 yards of offense to 187.
85:35They held the ball for almost 39 minutes to 21 minutes.
85:39And that first down, they crushed them on and they lost.
85:42Yeah. Yeah. Carnell Tate, by the way, just a real quick note.
85:46Carnell Tate starting to look like a nice piece for your fantasy team.
85:51I actually think that the Titans won that game.
85:54I actually think because for fantasy, I, I think they were not too far away from benching Cam Ward and, and, and trying something else different.
86:02And I think with that game, with winning that game, that was big for fantasy.
86:07If you own Carnell Tate, because Cam Ward, I think like it's starting to develop some chemistry.
86:13Yeah. Unfortunately though, we have Cleveland and Tennessee this weekend, which might be one of the worst games of the season to watch.
86:20Yeah. That's gross. That won't, hopefully they'll keep that off red zone too much.
86:25Yeah. Yeah. Let's see if Denzel Ward is up on Carnell Tate, you know, I'd slow him down a little bit.
86:32Other than Josh Downs, my arrow pointing down, I am a frustrated Harold fan and owner, another boss game.
86:38And again, I say it every week, guys, it's tough to eat these two point games in your lineup, man.
86:45And it's just, I don't know if you guys are experiencing this, but you know, two or three guys in your lineup
86:52that are less than five points, when they bust out like this, you can't overcome it.
86:57You can't get over one 25, one 30. If, if you're eating two or three of these bust games in your lineup.
87:04And when your tight end is Harold Fannin and it looks good going into the week and he gives you a two, it's, you know, it's rock bottom.
87:14I mean, this is like three weeks in a row now for Harold Fannin.
87:18Yeah. He, I don't know. I faded him completely, but I totally get you because this is what I was afraid might happen.
87:26They might be looking at their wide receivers. The quarterback might be a little bit of a shit show and, you know, I don't know.
87:34I w I wasn't feeling Fannin at his price.
87:37Um, who else has got, uh, I I'll throw out there, uh, Ramondre Stevenson is a guy that, you know, I don't
87:44feel great about starting any given week, but also, uh, tough to leave him on your bench because he's one of those
87:51guys who get you a five one week and he'll get you a 16 the next week.
87:57I can't believe I'm saying this. I think Kyler might be the best back.
88:02The kid, the kids looked good in limited action.
88:05He's got, he's got some burst and, and the thing is he's got burst and he runs more physical than Trevion.
88:12So it's like, it's like the best of both worlds.
88:15And he, he could fuck up that whole backfield situation there because like Vrabel seems to like him.
88:21Yeah. Can I say, I mean, for me, the downturn is basically every running back except for like after cook and not
88:28including Kenneth Walker, cause he's been great, but that whole backend, I mean, Chase Brown, as, as we mentioned, I'm nervous about him.
88:36Genty. I'm nervous about him. Saquon looks like the old guy that was breaking down.
88:41Even if he comes back, I'm not excited about him.
88:44Uh, Hampton. I mean, the doll and him have the same amount of catches and targets every week.
88:50And for dollar at least puts up close to 10 points or just over 10 points a week.
88:56So he's even more usable. I just, it's a total shit show in that, that, you know, that area and how that shakes out rest of season.
89:05Does any, maybe these guys come back. We saw Chase Brown last year.
89:09He was awful the first seven games. And then he went on a 10 game run where he was incredible.
89:15Uh, does Hampton come out of the bar and be the Hampton thought he was going to be?
89:21So, I mean, let's see what happens. But I mean, that whole thing has me like terrified that whole backend outside of Kenneth Walker.
89:29Yep. Yeah. Um, yeah. Mark Andrews, another one that, uh, the bottom is kind of falling out of.
89:35Hey, we need to talk about the Ravens though.
89:38While you're, while you're on there. And, um, you know, the Jacoby lane, uh, walked right back into this lineup.
89:45He was available in a lot of leagues last week on, on free agency.
89:49And I, I bid up on him to get them on my rosters, uh, back.
89:54I was surprised that people weren't going. I haven't dropped them.
89:58Yeah. I'm surprised that he was available in as many leagues as he was.
90:02And then his bids weren't as high. And then, you know, he puts it, he comes right back in.
90:09Uh, Bateman gets hurt. Andrews looks like dust and maybe Jacoby lane season is back on here as the second option in the Ravens passing game.
90:17We have Lamar coming back most likely, uh, in week seven.
90:21And if Bateman misses some time or whatever, um, you know, and Andrews is dust, Jacoby lanes is serviceable player.
90:27Now that we could put in all lineups. Yeah.
90:30Chris, being that you mentioned like lane, lane, Omar Cooper, Antonio Williams, we could see a second half surge.
90:37Mom field. Like of all these rookie, like wide receivers.
90:40Yes. Yes. Yeah. I just want to be, I just want to see Lamar take all the time he needs to heal
90:47up and be fully healed because the, the, I don't want to back in my line.
90:52I don't really need, I don't need him to sit out any more weeks.
90:57But, but the thing is, I mean, you know, it, the whole team looked like crap after he came back last year, because he couldn't play.
91:06Um, if he rushes himself back and it's the same, you know, more of the same that we saw last year after his injury.
91:14I got no interest in that. I would rather see a couple more weeks of, uh, Huntley and have Lamar really get right.
91:21But I don't know that they're going to do that because you know, it's Cincinnati this week, Buffalo next week.
91:28Uh, so I expect they're probably throwing them in no matter what.
91:32I hope so. It must be a little bit more of a high ankle or something with this guy because I mean, he's hopping around on the sideline.
91:41He's laughing and joking with his team. It looks like what, like, why aren't you playing?
91:46You know? Right. Let's see if he gets out there this week.
91:50Uh, you know, unfortunately my Lamar teams, I had to go to Winston and Bursette and you know, that was fun.
91:57So. Oh, mentioning Bursette. I, if you have him, I would not drop him.
92:02Of course, after this week, he's got Dallas. Dallas.
92:05Yeah. Matt. Matt. It's the same thing. Like I picked up Bursette a few weeks ago, everywhere, like in a lot of my leagues to actually play him.
92:14He had the good matchup versus Detroit. He gave 34 fantasy points and NFFC.
92:18And then if you looked, you wanted to get rid of them maybe after that, but then you look down the line
92:26and you saw you at Dallas and you're like, maybe I can hold him there.
92:31It's kind of the same thing that you guys were talking about earlier with Rogers, you know, Rogers has a good matchup this week versus the saints.
92:39And then another one in, in a, you know, a week or two, you know, just looking ahead and trying to plot
92:47and play it blew up on you. If you were the Winston owner when I was doing it like two weeks ago
92:54with my eyes on the saints game. But you know, these are the shots you got to take to spot start injuries and, and by weeks.
93:02I mean, for streams, I would start Rogers over Gino this week.
93:06At least the dolphins defense has been a competitive bunch this year.
93:10They've come to play at least. And I mean, I do like Gino's matchup, but I'm starting Rogers versus that saints defense.
93:18And, and you know what? That's you're talking to the Josh Allen owners right here.
93:23Cause if you're the Josh, Josh, the Jags, you know, you got, you got a few teams.
93:28Yeah. The other quarterback that we didn't touch base on is Michael Penix.
93:32Uh, he, he's a guy that I think is viable to, to pick up an either stream.
93:38If you're already have a good quarterback solution, like Josh Allen or whatever, or as just having a backup quarterback.
93:45Cause he's got, he's got weapons there in Atlanta.
93:48The guy on that team that stood out for me, I had picked them up in one week for a dollar the previous week.
93:55Then I caught him this week, but it's three straight weeks for John Dodson over 50 yards.
94:01He's got a touchdown in two of the last three.
94:04He's getting some targets now. He's not like, you know, where he was banished in Philadelphia and stuff.
94:10He's becoming a, you know, not somebody, but as a bi-week replacement, he might be somebody that could be usable.
94:17Yeah. A little piece off of waivers. You'll see people bid on him, Matt.
94:21I thought you were going to say Kyle Pitts, uh, actually, because, uh, as bad as a season I saw you get
94:29him in one of the leagues, Matt. I don't know if you're in that league with me.
94:34Um, uh, but he was available in that prime time.
94:38I bid $185 on Pitts. I didn't expect. I didn't have that kind of money to bid.
94:43Are you saying like too much or too little Nelson?
94:46No, listen, I, it's probably, you know, he was a rage drop and probably shouldn't have been dropped in this tight end landscape.
94:54I mean, there's some viable tight ends, but you're rage dropping.
94:58If Pitts, if you're dropping Pitts, you're kind of rage dropping them to a certain degree.
95:03Okay. Absolutely. $185, I thought you could, I would think that you could get them for less.
95:08I, what was the, what was the runner up?
95:11That was my point. The runner up was 61 bucks.
95:15I overbid, but you know what? I don't think fab, you know, you're not getting names.
95:20Listen, he sucked for the first four weeks, right?
95:23He was brutal. No, but then he did it last year too.
95:27All the time. We just started with Loveland on the thing last year.
95:31Kyle Pitts was a top five tight end down the stretch.
95:35Things could change like that. And guess what? I picked him up for $185.
95:39Yeah. I overbid, but I stuck them right in my starting lineup with some banged up players out and he gave 23 fantasy points.
95:47You're not getting that off of waiver wire. So if I had the money, I would have been like two 50.
95:54Yeah. So there you go. And if you overbid, you overbid.
95:58But like you said, there are certain talents that go on the wire that you got to bet on.
96:04There you go. Whether it pays out or doesn't.
96:07And that's what like people are so afraid of sometimes when they're picking up guys on waivers.
96:13Oh, this guy. And sometimes you got to pick somebody up and be willing to hold them for a while.
96:19Like everybody's not going to pop the minute you pick them up.
96:23So you can't judge it. Sometimes you just need a body to place in there.
96:28I get that. Yeah. And again, you know, you look at a Kyle Pitts.
96:33Yeah, it's been bad. And now these last two weeks, he's given you some good production.
96:38Maybe he sees in the starting to turn around with Penix under center and he's looks like the clear two option.
96:45But you know what? With wide receivers so banged up as well and injuries and everything like that.
96:51Kyle Pitts, like I just said, I flexed him out.
96:54He could be my wide receiver three. My, you know, my de facto player that if my wide receiver room is a
97:01little short, I stick him in as a flex and he gives me 23 fantasy points.
97:07So I mean, I had Dallas Goddard in the flex on so many teams this week.
97:12You got to do it in the bottom weeks.
97:15Yeah. All right. What else we got guys? What do you want to hit on Dan?
97:20I know we're running low. Yeah, I think we, I think we've pretty much covered everything.
97:25Yeah, I think we've got. So. All right. Good show guys.
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