Fantasy Empire - Week 3 Fantasy Fallout: Injury Chaos, Offensive Disasters & Players We’re BENCHING
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1 hr 40 min
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Sep 30, 2026
Published
Wed, September 30, 2026
66
Player insights
57
Players mentioned
Topics
Jahmyr GibbsJaxon Smith-NjigbaBijan RobinsonDerrick HenryDeshaun WatsonDrake MayeKalif RaymondAaron JonesAdonai MitchellAmon-Ra St. BrownBreece HallBrian Thomas Jr.Brock BowersCaleb Williams
Player analysis
Player insights
Aaron Jones
NegativeUsage83:54
Aaron Jones is being overused with 40 carries over the last two weeks, which is unsustainable given his age of 33.
Insight pageAdonai Mitchell
NegativeInjury14:41
The source notes that Adonai Mitchell did not play, which resulted in the voiding of the source's betting ladders.
Insight pageAmon-Ra St. Brown
PositiveValue10:17
Amon-Ra St. Brown is highlighted as a top-tier asset whose performance is helping managers cover up holes in their lineups through the first three weeks.
Insight pageBijan Robinson
PositiveValue8:29
Bijan Robinson was a consensus top-two draft pick, with over 95% of managers selecting him or Jahmyr Gibbs in that range.
Insight pagePositiveUsage29:26
Bijan Robinson is a primary focal point of the Falcons' offense, which is consolidated around him and Drake London.
Insight pageBreece Hall
NegativeInjury77:58
Breece Hall is expected to miss a few weeks due to injury, creating a potential 60-40 committee backfield between Braelon Allen and Isaiah Davis in his absence.
Insight pageBrian Thomas Jr.
NegativeBust49:28
The source labels Brian Thomas Jr. a 'bomb pick' in rounds five and six, noting he is currently benchable and droppable. While the source suggests keeping him on the bench in deep leagues due to talent and potential for future improvement or injury-driven opportunity, he is currently the odd man out in the Jacksonville offense.
Insight pageBrock Bowers
PositiveBreakout67:18
The source calls Brock Bowers the 'steal of the century' in rounds four and five. Despite some health concerns, the source views him as a top-tier fantasy asset who will be a key player for winning leagues this year.
Insight pageCaleb Williams
NegativeRole27:50
Caleb Williams is criticized for his demeanor on the bench, with the source noting he appears disengaged compared to other quarterbacks.
Insight pageCase Keenum
NegativeRole25:33
Case Keenum started due to Bijan Robinson's concussion protocol status throughout the practice week, though the source worries he could be exposed after one game.
Insight pageChris Godwin
NegativeUsage56:36
The source advises benching Chris Godwin until Baker Mayfield returns from injury. The combination of a backup quarterback and the loss of Jalen McMillan to IR creates uncertainty, making Godwin a 'wait and see' player for the next few weeks.
Insight pageChristian Watson
PositiveProjection30:00
Christian Watson is projected as a weekly wide receiver one in the Packers' offense.
Insight pageColston Loveland
PositiveValue46:13
The source advises fantasy managers to keep starting Colston Loveland despite potential benching urges, as replacing him with other options often backfires.
Insight pageDalton Kincaid
NegativeUsage8:17
Dalton Kincaid is cited as an example of a player contributing to low weekly fantasy totals after only recording five points in his most recent outing.
Insight pageDavid Montgomery
NegativeUsage12:58
The source observes that David Montgomery's usage has shifted slightly, moving from 23 touches in Week 1 to 21 touches (17 rushes, 4 targets) in each of the last two weeks.
Insight pageDerrick Henry
PositiveProjection5:24
The source identifies Derrick Henry as a 'monster' player who is providing the consistent, high-end weekly scoring required to reach the top of fantasy standings.
Insight pageNegativeValue10:35
Derrick Henry is mentioned as a player that managers likely paired with their top-tier draft picks to build their current rosters.
Insight pageDeshaun Watson
PositiveProjection71:15
Deshaun Watson has posted 25 or more fantasy points in each of his last two games, showing improved chemistry with his weapons and becoming a viable streaming option for favorable matchups against teams like Dallas, Chicago, or Detroit.
Insight pagePositiveProjection71:34
The source highlights Deshaun Watson's recent production, noting he has scored 25 or more fantasy points in each of his last two games.
Insight pageDrake London
PositiveUsage29:26
Drake London is a primary focal point of the Falcons' offense, which is consolidated around him and Bijan Robinson.
Insight pageDrake Maye
NegativeBust35:27
Drake Maye is struggling significantly, with potential physical or mental issues affecting his velocity and decision-making, making him a bench candidate.
Insight pageNegativeUsage47:48
The source advises benching Drake Maye due to poor mental processing, specifically noting his tendency to run into sacks rather than utilizing the pocket. The source confirms starting other quarterbacks like Geno Smith, Marcus Mariota, or Jacoby Brissett over him.
Insight pageGarrett Wilson
PositiveUsage78:13
Garrett Wilson is the primary player to be excited about in the Jets offense, as he is expected to be peppered with targets on a weekly basis.
Insight pageGeno Smith
PositiveValue24:10
Geno Smith is highlighted as a solid streaming option who has looked good and is producing fantasy points.
Insight pageGeorge Kittle
NegativeUsage12:13
The source notes having George Kittle in a starting lineup for an FFPC contest, highlighting him as a player requiring start/sit consideration alongside bench options like Michael Wilson and Terry McLaurin.
Insight pageHarold Fannin
NegativeRole71:38
Harold Fannin has re-emerged as a weapon of mass destruction in the Browns offense, providing relief to fantasy managers who were worried about him after the first two weeks; he is now a weekly top target.
Insight pageIsaiah Likely
NegativeProjection62:21
The source notes that the excitement surrounding Isaiah Likely has faded significantly since week one, making him difficult to trust in fantasy lineups.
Insight pageJ.J. McCarthy
NegativeDepth Chart63:40
The source is highly skeptical of J.J. McCarthy, labeling him a terrible quarterback with no touch. The source warns that if McCarthy replaces Jameis Winston, it would be detrimental to the fantasy value of Giants receivers like Malik Nabers.
Insight pageJ.K. Dobbins
NegativeUsage94:29
J.K. Dobbins is not catching passes, which limits his fantasy relevance and confidence for managers despite his talent.
Insight pageJa'Marr Chase
PositiveValue10:17
Ja'Marr Chase is identified as one of the top-tier players whose performance is currently providing a significant advantage to fantasy managers who drafted him.
Insight pageJadarian Price
NegativeBust57:50
The source identifies Jadarian Price as a disappointing pick and recommends moving him to the bench.
Insight pageJahmyr Gibbs
PositiveProjection5:24
The source classifies Jahmyr Gibbs as a 'monster' player who is delivering the 25-30+ point performances necessary to anchor high-scoring fantasy lineups in the current environment.
Insight pagePositiveUsage7:19
Jahmyr Gibbs is delivering high-end weekly production, acting as a lineup anchor that compensates for underperforming players elsewhere on the roster.
Insight pagePositiveProjection69:11
The source lists Jahmyr Gibbs as one of the three essential players, alongside JSN and Brock Bowers, needed to win fantasy leagues this year.
Insight pageJakobi Meyers
PositiveValue51:11
The source projects Jakobi Meyers to be a solid flex player moving forward, recommending him as a reliable depth piece for fantasy rosters.
Insight pageJalen McMillan
PositiveUsage70:35
The source expresses disappointment in Jalen McMillan's target volume in a game where the Panthers were trailing, noting that he did not perform as expected.
Insight pageJameis Winston
NegativeValue23:23
The source expresses no interest in adding Jameis Winston despite the recent surge in waiver wire interest following quarterback injuries.
Insight pageJaxon Smith-Njigba
PositiveProjection5:24
The source highlights Jaxon Smith-Njigba as one of the 'monsters' providing consistent high-end scoring (25-30+ points) that is currently separating top-tier fantasy teams from the rest of the pack.
Insight pagePositiveUsage7:19
Jaxon Smith-Njigba is currently providing elite, high-ceiling production that is effectively masking poor performances from other roster spots, helping fantasy managers reach high weekly scores.
Insight pagePositiveUsage24:16
Jaxon Smith-Njigba is consistently targeted by Sam Darnold, and defenses have struggled to stop this connection.
Insight pageJeremiyah Love
PositiveBreakout13:45
The source describes Jeremiah Love as a 'supreme talent' who will eventually pull away to command the majority of the backfield. Love reached bell-cow territory this past weekend with 21 rushes and five targets.
Insight pageJordan Love
PositiveProjection29:53
Jordan Love is viewed as a solid fantasy producer, provided the offensive line can protect him.
Insight pageJosh Jacobs
NegativeInjury31:05
Josh Jacobs is not expected to return soon due to legal issues, and the source notes the team's backfield is a poor situation overall.
Insight pageJustin Herbert
NegativeBust34:50
Justin Herbert is struggling, with poor decision-making and lack of production, leading the source to bench him in favor of streaming options.
Insight pageJustin Jefferson
NegativeProjection83:38
The source expresses concern that Justin Jefferson will struggle to pay off his draft cost due to poor quarterback play in Minnesota, with one the source suggesting his elite status is dead until the situation improves.
Insight pageKalif Raymond
PositiveRole2:21
The source identifies Khalif Raymond as the current number one receiver for his team, noting that those who acquired him early for cheap are now benefiting from his production.
Insight pagePositiveSleeper54:21
The source highlights Khalif Raymond as a speculative add who has been played over higher-drafted players like Marvin Harrison Jr. and Brian Thomas Jr. due to his role in the Lions' offense.
Insight pageKeaton Mitchell
PositiveUsage91:12
Keaton Mitchell's fantasy outlook is trending up as the Chargers are playing from behind more often, making him a potential RB2 option for desperate managers.
Insight pageKendre Miller
NegativeUsage77:08
Kendre Miller looks good when he is on the field, and the source notes that opportunity is coming for him in the Saints offense, though his health remains a concern.
Insight pageKenneth Walker III
PositiveProjection5:24
The source lists Kenneth Walker among the elite players providing consistent, high-ceiling production that is currently essential for winning fantasy matchups.
Insight pageKirk Cousins
PositiveProjection67:14
The source praises Kirk Cousins' recent performance, noting he is a reliable starting option for fantasy teams after a strong start to the season.
Insight pageKyle Pitts
NegativeUsage29:23
Kyle Pitts owners are described as being stuck at the starting gate, implying continued disappointment in his fantasy production.
Insight pageLuther Burden
PositiveUsage2:08
The source notes that Luther Burden finally produced fantasy points in Week 3, serving as a positive development for his outlook.
Insight pageMalik Nabers
NegativeProjection60:02
Despite three bad games, the source remains optimistic about Malik Nabers' potential for the second half of the season. The source believes the Giants will feed him as the 'big dog' and that the schedule opens up with matchups against Arizona and Washington.
Insight pageMarcus Mariota
PositiveProjection14:27
The source characterizes Marcus Mariota as a competent backup quarterback, noting that Terry McLaurin has performed better with him under center.
Insight pageMarShawn Lloyd
NegativeBust30:25
Marshawn Lloyd is considered a drop candidate, as he lacks the juice shown by other backs and is part of a struggling three-man backfield.
Insight pageMarvin Harrison Jr.
NegativeBust49:28
The source considers Marvin Harrison Jr. a 'bomb pick' in rounds five and six, stating he is currently unplayable. Despite the poor production, the source advises against dropping him, suggesting he be parked on the bench to see if the situation improves or if injuries to teammates like Trey McBride or Michael Wilson create more opportunity.
Insight pageMichael Wilson
PositiveBreakout50:25
The source identifies Michael Wilson as a potential breakout candidate who will headline the round six-to-eight wide receiver class. With 17 targets recently, he and Trey McBride are expected to be the primary focus of the Cardinals' passing offense.
Insight pageParker Washington
PositiveDepth Chart51:08
The source notes that Parker Washington has emerged as the 'top gun' in the Jacksonville wide receiver depth chart, surpassing Brian Thomas Jr. in usage.
Insight pageRhamondre Stevenson
NegativeUsage59:06
The source expresses concern over the Patriots' offense and Rhamondre Stevenson's lack of involvement in the passing game, though he remains a mandatory start due to volume.
Insight pageSam Darnold
PositiveUsage24:16
Sam Darnold is noted for his consistent tendency to target Jaxon Smith-Njigba, making him a viable fantasy option.
Insight pageTerry McLaurin
PositiveProjection12:13
The source views the Washington offense as a buy, noting that Terry McLaurin has better numbers with Marcus Mariota at quarterback. The source adds that McLaurin should have had a '30 burger' in Week 2 and played well in the most recent week.
Insight pageTucker Kraft
NegativeRole29:48
Tucker Kraft needs to develop further within the Packers' offensive scheme to become a more reliable fantasy asset.
Insight pageTyler Allgeier
NegativeRole13:39
The source notes that Tyler Allgeier is not going away in the Arizona backfield, suggesting the situation will remain a headache for fantasy managers.
Insight pageWoody Marks
NegativeUsage13:06
The source identifies Woody Marks as a strong pass-catcher but notes that the expected increase in his pass-catching usage over the last two weeks has not materialized as anticipated.
Insight pageZay Flowers
NegativeValue10:35
Zay Flowers is mentioned as a player that managers likely paired with their top-tier draft picks to build their current rosters.
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Episode Transcript
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0:44Why wait? September football is over! And as we turn the calendar to October, it's time to take stock of your fantasy squads.
0:52Maybe you're 3-0 or 2-1, sitting pretty. Congratulations! Or maybe you're 0-3 or 1-2 and you barely eked out that win.
1:00It's not time to panic yet, but it is time to take an honest look at your teams.
1:06Figure out how to get back on track. Draft capital means nothing anymore.
1:11All that matters is scoring points. So the question you've got to ask yourself is, are you getting the best possible results out of your team?
1:20Our coaching hats are on today as we get into the Empire.
1:24Hey, happy MRI Tuesday everybody! How we doing? Good, good.
1:28Never too much, never too much. That's the theme of today after Luther Burden finally got some points.
1:34We pay homage to Luther Vandross. A thousand kisses from you is never too much, never too much.
1:41I like it, Matty. I like it. You're one for Khalif Raymond too, since he's the number one receiver.
1:47He is. That's crazy. Unbelievable. Yep. Those who dove in early on that one got him for cheap and getting some points out of it.
1:56Sure thing. Gentlemen, obviously, three weeks in the books here.
2:00Fantasy football is absolutely crazy right now. And we're going to try and cover everything because there's a lot to talk about
2:07after another wacky week three in fantasy football. Absolutely.
2:11Chris, why don't you just dive right in? What's on your mind?
2:15I mean, I think that through three weeks, guys, I've never seen fantasy so top heavy.
2:21You know, where the first two rounds of players are just drastically killing everybody.
2:26And that sounds like, oh, well, it's supposed to be.
2:29But yeah, I don't know if we've seen a time where the mid rounds to the later rounds, we're not getting much help through three weeks.
2:38It doesn't look like there's any help coming in sight.
2:42The running back position is absolute trash. You know, we keep chalking it up like, oh, it's one week.
2:49All right. Now it's two weeks. Now it's three weeks.
2:52And we're not getting anything out of these, you know, RB2, three types after that.
2:57You know, I think it's a difference of right now.
3:01Could we be heading to another year of where every week our lineups are filled with three or four duds in it?
3:09The guys that, you know, don't show up that particular week, give a five point game, a seven point game, keep these
3:17scores low in that 115 to 130 range. I think the big difference through three weeks right now is if you have
3:24the monsters, the guys that are carrying you, the JSNs, the Jameer Gibbs, Ken Walkers and Derek Henrys, stuff like players like
3:32that, that are giving you the consistent points. And that the guys that are going to be in your lineup, they give
3:40you the 30 every week, the 25 plus. That's what's getting these teams that are in the top of the standings, the
3:48top of the overalls that are pumping out one seventies each week when they have two guys in their lineups that are given a 35 and a 32.
3:58And you get, you know, a good game from your quarterback and your defense and kicker don't give a one or two each.
4:06And they're given some points. That's what's getting that's what's getting all these teams to one 70, one 75.
4:12Whereas all the other players that are in the bottom right now of the league around 115, 120, it's not that you don't have good players.
4:22It's just that there's so much inconsistency through three weeks across fantasy that you are living in that one 20.
4:29You can't get out of that one 20, one 25 range in fantasy when you've got four guys that are given less than 10 points in your lineup.
4:39And you aren't the JSN owner or the Gibbs owner that's given you the 40 to cover up the holes in your lineup.
4:47That's what Gibbs and JSN are doing right now is they're covering up those one or two or three guys in your lineup that give you the five.
4:57The kid, oh, Kincaid only gave me five today.
5:00You know, this wide receiver is six. So I think that's what I'm seeing in fantasy.
5:06Could you mention the RB twos and the RB threes?
5:09Yeah. And look, if you had the one or two pick, you got Gibbs or Bijan.
5:15That was like 95% or more. Everybody went that way.
5:18There was a couple of chases thrown in. But we're not talking enough about the other running backs that were at the
5:26end of the first round, beginning of the second round.
5:30The Barclays. I mean, A-chan is done now. That was injury related, but that team was not looking good.
5:36Who else is there? Hamptons. This trajectory. And even Gentry, who had a fantastic week one versus Miami.
5:43That's, you know, pulled back. So everybody's talking about all the RB twos and threes.
5:48And the RB ones are getting a pass in that, you know, late first, early second.
5:54That's what I noticed. Matt, what's crazy. I don't think it was because of that.
5:59Yeah, Matt. What's crazy about that is I think after week one, we talked and it said like, hey, listen, if you
6:07were in that eight to 12 range, that's what you wanted to draft.
6:11It's looking good. And then the last two weeks, it's like, whoa, like not at all.
6:17You know, the advantage that the Gibbs, B-Jean, Jamar Chase and JSN and even Amon Rod like that.
6:23You know, if you've got one of those top four or five picks right there, you're covering up a lot of holes
6:31and you're scoring some really good points through three weeks.
6:35You most likely came back with a, you know, it may be landed on a lot of a Derek Henry, Zay Flowers, guys like that.
6:44You know, it's it's it is what it is right now through three weeks.
6:49All right. Nelson. What am I? What do you want to know?
6:53What's on your mind? What do you see? Nelson's like a deer.
6:57Nelson's ready for the show. Yeah. I think we're all still shell shocked from what we saw in week three.
7:04We're trying to figure it all out. Nelson. I mean, I just I just think that, you know, it's it's like every
7:12week in the NFL, like there's guys that are going to be inconsistent.
7:17So one week we're feeling good about a certain team and a guy puts up 20 or whatever.
7:23And then the following week he's he's putting up single digits or zero.
7:28And and we're now we're scratching our heads trying to make sense of all of it.
7:33So I think we got to be able to take a lot of this stuff in stride.
7:39And listen, I feel like it's like Groundhog Day because this happens every year.
7:44And and I always say it to myself. And then I try to remind people that it's a grind.
7:51Like fantasy football is not going to come easy.
7:54Like sometimes, you know, things work out on a majority of your teams.
7:59But for the most part, for guys like us where we're doing volume or whatever, we're going to have some clunkers.
8:06We're going to have teams that are are just struggling and and we're trying to make sense of it.
8:13Things are not going right. Like that's the the advice that I can give is that it's a grind.
8:20If you came into the season thinking, you know, piece of cake, life's easy.
8:25I drafted the perfect team. All the players that I need are already on my roster.
8:30I don't need to grind waivers. I'm going to be injury free.
8:35No injuries to my teams. Yeah, life is great.
8:38But that's just not the case. It's not reality.
8:41But it sure is nice when you get off to that nice start.
8:45You know, you're scoring points. You look like you have the right combination.
8:50You're you know, you're you're healthy. Your team's not banged up, Nelson.
8:54But my question to you with saying that and it's all true, everything you just said.
9:00But it's not a good feeling when you've had a bumpy three weeks and now the injuries are kicking into your team.
9:08So now you your players didn't get off to like a great start.
9:12There's a lot of inconsistency, which there will be across the board.
9:17It happens every year. And this is where the grind starts.
9:21Right. You might be in eighth place, ninth place and points.
9:24You're one and two, whatever. Like Dan said at the opening.
9:28But now what happens is it's one thing to be through three weeks and and in that position and being like, all
9:36right, you know, listen, my guys are just they haven't clicked yet.
9:40But when you're in that position and now you lose three or four guys and the injuries start piling up and now
9:48you got to go to your bench because you got two starters that are locked into your your lineup out and you go and look at your bench.
9:58And these are the guys that are terrible through three weeks.
10:02They're basically droppable. Now you stop that. You start saying to yourself, all right, well, the guys that I was depending on aren't working out.
10:11The guys that are on my bench aren't working out and I got to bring them into the lineup.
10:18It gets scary really fast here. You know, yeah.
10:21Two things that I don't think I talked about enough is one.
10:25You got to take after three weeks context like our empire prime time is in my eighth place.
10:31But we're 47 points away from the top. You know, so we're right there.
10:36The other thing is it's never stressed enough throughout the summer and stuff.
10:41How important it is making lineup calls and how difficult it is.
10:45If you actually drafted a good team and you have options, you know, that is there's times you're put you're leaving points
10:53on the bench that, you know, you look back, you kick yourself.
10:57I mean, everybody can do it as a Monday morning quarterback.
11:01But it's tough when you have, you know, those choices.
11:05And that's something I think never gets the attention it should.
11:09For sure, Matt. For sure. I left a lot of points on my benches with tough start, sit decisions.
11:15We all do it. I'm sure. You know. Yep.
11:18The important thing, I think, is to have a good process and just go through that process.
11:24A few days ago on Twitter, I kind of put out what my process is, you know, which a lot of people seem to enjoy.
11:33It's just a matter of, you know, be systematic about it.
11:37It doesn't need to take a long time. It's like, you know, I wrote out this process and it's like 10 tweets long.
11:45But at the same time, you know, I can run through a team and in a minute or less, you know, and
11:53go through all these questions in my head and get these things sorted out.
11:58And a lot of times, you know, there might be one or two places where you're like, I don't know.
12:05I mean, you know, like I got, you know, in FFPC, I had a lineup where I had George Kittle in the lineup.
12:13And then I had Michael Wilson and Terry McCorn on my bench.
12:18You know, it's like I gave that one a little bit of extra thought.
12:23But I just went, buzzed through my lineup, wrote that one down, come back to it later.
12:29You know, those are the ones that you want to kind of come back to and think about a little bit.
12:36But for the most part, you should be pretty quick.
12:40Yeah, Matt, what you got, buddy? I mean, what I've noticed, if I got the question right, but what's standing out to me, I kind of did it.
12:49The Texans running back situation and how after week one, David Montgomery had 23, you know, touches or he had 20 rushes and three targets.
12:58He's gotten 17 and four in the last two weeks.
13:02And I think Woody Marks is a really good pass catcher.
13:06And I thought they would really use him more pass catching wise over the last two weeks with Nonico.
13:12But except for week two, that hasn't happened. And just seeing how that backfield's evolved, the horrible coaching decisions they made.
13:20He punked it on 14 inches week two. They went for week three, didn't get it.
13:26That's their, you know, the charges situation, how that backfield is evolving.
13:30It's, you know, it's concerning. The good. I see the running back takeovers in Arizona.
13:35It's still going to be a bit of a headache.
13:39You know, he's not going away, Algier. But Jeremiah Love is a supreme talent and at some point will pull away or have the majority of it.
13:48I mean, he was in Belcal territory this weekend with 21 rushes and five targets.
13:54Bashal Tootin, the first half, I mentioned that week one, it kind of went under the radar.
14:00How he's somebody we should be looking at. And he kind of pulled away in that first half.
14:06It was a little closer in the second half, but it was a blowout.
14:11So, you know, that's the running back thing. I stay on the Washington offense.
14:16I think that is something to buy. They have probably the two worst cornerbacks in the league or at least bottom five.
14:24They're going to be throwing. Mariota's a competent backup.
14:27McLaurin's got better numbers with him. Again, Terry week two should have had like a 30 burger.
14:33We saw this past week he played well. And the other thing was it was sad to see Adonai Mitchell not play.
14:41All my ladders got voided. But right before kickoff, I did take Sadiq.
14:45I put a honey on him to score the first touchdown at 21.
14:50So that was nice. And Sadiq has now emerged.
14:53I spent $230 after week one in fab at a prime time.
14:57The Greek told me I was crazy, but actually looking pretty good right now.
15:02And he was a target late. Sadiq, you know, after as we went into the season, we talked about it on this show, Matt, with Sadiq.
15:11He was that guy that it was an obvious 18th, 19th, 20th round dart throw just to put on your team.
15:19And now look at us three weeks into the season.
15:22And if Adonai Mitchell is going to sit out a little bit here, and even if he isn't, this guy looks the
15:30part of someone that has to be on the field for the Jets in this offense.
15:36I loved what I saw out of the Jets and Sadiq and Garrett Wilson, who I think is a comfortable top 10 fantasy wide receiver all year long.
15:46So, you know, wheels up. Sadiq, you got to start starting this guy going forward.
15:51Say that again? The big takeaway for me with the Jets offense is Geno is getting the protection for the most part.
15:59I know at the end of the game, you know, but that was like a good job.
16:05But he's getting the protection. That line, like you said, is very good.
16:10And like I said, I wasn't in on Sadiq until end of August, beginning of September.
16:15Ferguson has just gotten way too expensive. He missed all OTAs in camp, but he was back and he was going to be practicing.
16:24And he was a dark throw. I put him on like four of my seven OCs that final week and one of my two prime times.
16:33So hopefully, you know, that's a thing that's cemented itself going forward.
16:37And, you know, shout out to Stevie the Greek and Spiteri.
16:41I see them checking in in the chat over here from our sister show, the fantasy sit down.
16:47I believe it's on Fridays. I did try to check in on them on Friday.
16:53Is the sit down a reference to how they pee?
16:56I'm just curious. It might be, Dan. But the sit down show, you know, I love these guys.
17:03I'm rooting for them. I checked in on Friday a couple of minutes and then I had to run.
17:09I apologize. I dropped the viewership from double digits to single digits of that show.
17:15But like I said, I'm rooting for them big time.
17:18I did hear through the grapevine that they said our show is dry toast.
17:23I believe Steve the Greek said that. And I'm going to go back.
17:28I'm going to watch the show because I'm sure I missed nothing but 45 minutes of Steve the Greek just talking about
17:36his players and how many players shares he's got of each guy and how each of his teams are doing.
17:43Riveting, you know, radio podcasting. But we love those guys.
17:46We root for them. And all the best to you guys.
17:50So take a listen to fantasy sit down. I think it's Fridays or something like that.
17:56Our resident guy right here, Matty Modica, Janice Rossi over here.
18:00Janice Rossi, our whore in three feet. You have a whore in six feet.
18:05He goes and he tries to on Friday bail that show out with his knowledge.
18:10But if you want knowledge, actual football knowledge of a show, you know, the brains of the franchise operation is right here.
18:18You know what it is? You know what it is?
18:21So watching that show, it reminds me. Everyone has like, you know, the uncle that's a little slow and he's a little weird or whatever.
18:30Like, it reminds me of that. It reminds me of like three uncles.
18:35Like, they're a little slow or whatever. You got to give them a pass.
18:40Don't take it too serious. Feed them soup. Yeah, feed them soup.
18:44There you go. Sit in the corner and the holiday parties.
18:48Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Stinky Creek is rubbing his dog in each episode and the thing.
18:55They got tech issues out of the ass over there.
18:58It's a disaster, Nelson. You're right. Yeah. I mean, you know, Paul, this is like his life dream, right?
19:05Paul always wanted to get into entertainment. It's a Make-A-Wish program.
19:09100%. It's Terry's Make-A-Wish podcast. You got to leave these guys alone.
19:13Yeah, we will. We will. I say nothing on either show.
19:17I just sit here and laugh. But I got to say, I'm excited for Friday.
19:22100%. I'm excited to watch you, Janice. Should be a good one.
19:26Should be a good one. I wear the Janice Rossi badge of pride.
19:31Oh, by the way, National Croft Day. Matt, is your little name Judas?
19:36I have done nothing wrong. He's just trying to help out a fledgling podcast.
19:41I mean, you know. We're all men here. Everybody can stand up for themselves.
19:46Absolutely. Absolutely. So it's all good. All right. So getting back to the actual point of the show, which I think is fantasy football, but I'm not sure.
19:55All right. Yeah. It had to be said, Dan.
19:59I will say. I will say. I will say.
20:02The Make-A-Wish line was fantastic. It was. That was great.
20:05It really was. Yep. All right. Back to fantasy, boys.
20:09Back to fantasy. I know Nelson took some heat last night.
20:13I took some heat as well. Both of us talking about how good the Bears offense looked with Case Keenum.
20:20And, of course, you get all these thin-skinned Bears fans.
20:23And they're all, oh, Caleb Williams is a much better quarterback.
20:2759-point tweak one. And, you know, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
20:32I think there are a lot of people missing the point there.
20:36You know. Yeah. Caleb Williams is the better quarterback.
20:39Everybody gets that. But the offense is much more on schedule with Case Keenum.
20:44Different game plan. I know, you know, Caleb is out there hunting big plays.
20:49All that kind of stuff. With Keenum, he doesn't have the arm for that.
20:54He's, you know, playing a different game plan. But for your burden shares, for your Loveland shares, there's no doubt Case Keenum is better.
21:02I'm not wishing Case Keenum will start. Caleb Williams deserves the job.
21:07There's no quarterback controversy here. But just, you know, it would be nice if Caleb would sometimes just take the throw that's
21:14there instead of trying to turn it all into hero ball.
21:18But then, wasn't it last year when I said in the summer that Bajan was said to be the better one to run this offense in the summer?
21:28You know, by all the beats and everybody. And I was ridiculed for the whole season.
21:34I was the Bajan lover and all that. Just repeating facts.
21:38Look, nobody's saying. Nelson never said Caleb is – Keenum is better than Caleb.
21:43He worded it specifically. He runs the offense efficient.
21:46He looked like a goth clone last night. Would he get exposed after a week?
21:51I think if it's this week Caleb don't play, I think Bajan probably starts.
21:56I think they know. Can we talk about – I was going to say, Matt, I don't know about that after last night, Matt.
22:05And that's going to be interesting. It will. And, you know, Caleb's probably going to miss three or four weeks here.
22:12What you get in Case Keenum is one of these coaches on the field, a smart veteran quarterback, like a Carson Wentz
22:20coming in for a Kyler Murray in Minnesota and moving the offense and flowing.
22:25Now everybody's like, oh, Carson Wentz is better than Kyler for the offense.
22:29Same thing's going to be said here with Keenum.
22:33But I'm bringing it back to fantasy here. Is Keenum a – is Keenum an ad, a pickup this week for the next three weeks?
22:42Or are they going to go back to the guy they paid in Bajan for these next two, three, four weeks?
22:49Because one of these pieces, whoever is the starting quarterback, is going to be a valuable quarterback to stream, especially in a
22:57time where the Drake May owners are looking for answers, the Justin Herbert quarterbacks are looking for answers.
23:03We just did this with Geno Smith this past week on the waiver wire, and it came up aces, right?
23:1036 NFC fantasy points. You take the veteran, you put him in a couple weeks, it gets you through the Drake May,
23:18Justin Herbert, or whoever else you're struggling with right now.
23:22So to get that answer right is the most important thing, I think, here.
23:27I'm a big Caleb Williams owner. For whatever reason, Saturday night and Thursday, I was picking up Bajan.
23:33I had a couple Bajan shares just to back up Caleb and then thinking that maybe he would start Saturday just to have it.
23:41I didn't have either one of them. But going forward, I might have to drop Bajan to try and get Case Keenum.
23:49So hopefully there's a little more clarity here, but I think one of them is startable, whoever is the starting quarterback.
23:57Well, just real quick on the quarterback injuries and stuff that happened over the last week or so.
24:03I mean, there's some really good – everybody ran to get Jameis, which I really had no interest in.
24:10But there's Brissette is available. You got Geno. You got Mariota if Daniels doesn't come back this week.
24:16So, I mean, there's guys there. And even Sam Donald, he just knows to throw the damn ball to JSN.
24:23And everybody knows it's coming, but nobody can stop it until that happens.
24:28So there is more options than you would think on the wire quarterback.
24:32Yeah, hopefully we get some clarity out of Ben Johnson as to who he plans on starting.
24:38I mean, I would think that if Bajan is your QB2 going into the season, that wouldn't change just because he got
24:46a concussion and you were kind of forced to start Case because Case was the guy taking all the snaps in practice and everything.
24:55I understand why there's any case out there. I am curious with that, Dan, because when I saw him clear concussion protocol,
25:02I was like, oh, okay, they're going to go to him.
25:06And, like, he knows the offense, right? So, like, he doesn't need that many first-team reps.
25:12I almost wonder, Dan, did Ben Johnson see Keenum in practice getting these reps?
25:17It was like, he looks good. He looks good to me.
25:21Hey, Bajan clears concussion protocol. He says, no, I'm still going to go with Keenum.
25:26There's a possibility that that was the case. Yeah, I think there's a possibility that that was the case.
25:33But also, I think you've got to think about the fact that maybe he was planning on having a quick hook with Keenum if it didn't work out.
25:43He was like, well, you know, we gave him the reps.
25:47We're going to let him start the game. But you know what?
25:51If things aren't working out, we're going to toss Bajan in.
25:55And things were working out. He said in the press conference last night that Saturday night when they went through the game
26:03plan, it was basically Keenum that did all the talking, had all the control.
26:08And Bajan didn't clear on Saturday. He was cleared to practice.
26:12He hadn't cleared the protocol yet. So that's the answer right there, is they went through practice all week long with Keenum being the first team, reps, everything.
26:21And then to flip it and not, you know, at the last second on Saturday night and be like, all right, now
26:29that Bajan cleared, throw him into the mix, into the fire.
26:33So it was going to be Keenum the whole time.
26:37Okay. But now with a full week going in, do you go back to your regular backup or, you know?
26:44I think that's the tricky question, right? Because does he get Wally pipped?
26:48Because Keenum looked really good. The offense, the offense was really good.
26:53Yeah. I just worry as good as Keenum looked last night.
26:56And it was a couple of throws I think they did mention that could have been pick six.
27:03I think after that, like one game, he probably gets exposed.
27:07That's wild stuff. That wild stat from yesterday, Matt, that you sent us that has to be talked about.
27:13The case Keenum versus Andy Dalton last night at one point when Dalton came in, shit his pants, threw an interception, ruined the game for the Eagles.
27:23But they faced each other in the 2007 Alamo Bowl.
27:27Keenum versus Andy Dalton when Houston played TCU. And now 20 years later on Monday Night Football.
27:33Absolutely amazing. That is wild. Keenum, I'm sure, will be one of these guys that will be five years from now an offensive coordinator in the NFL.
27:42He's one of those types. Yeah. And can we, before we get off the subject, can we talk about Caleb Williams sitting on the bench?
27:51Like, as somebody put it, and I won't say who, looking like a gay porn star.
27:57You know, you see most quarterbacks when they're, you know, when they're out like that, you know, they got the headset on.
28:04They're totally dialed into the game plan, everything else.
28:08And here's Caleb Williams. You're right. Just sitting there with his hoodie and his sunglasses.
28:13And I'm too cool for any of this. I called him Jesse Smollett.
28:18I'm stating the audience. I called him Jesse Smollett.
28:21Yeah. Yeah. No doubt. No doubt. All right. He's a different cat.
28:25Yeah. That would be one way to put it for sure.
28:29Okay. We're going to take a quick break here.
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29:15That's a big deal. That's a big deal. That's a big deal.
29:20That's a big deal. That was great. That was great.
29:23Kyle Pitts owners still stuck at that starting gate.
29:26But that Falcons offense, it's going to be a dream if you're the Bijon and Drake London owner every week.
29:33It's consolidated to two guys. They touched the ball 90% of the snaps.
29:38And, you know, it looked good. You know, that looked real good.
29:42And on the opposite side, that Green Bay team, it was what we thought it would be.
29:48Tucker Craft has got to come along a little more here in the offense.
29:53But when Jordan Love drops back and if that offensive line can not get him killed, which is a big problem going
30:01forward, Matthew Golden, wide receiver two, Christian Watson, wide receiver one, you know, for fantasy each week going forward in this offense.
30:09Being that you mentioned Green Bay, I think we need to stay on this for a second and look at the running back position.
30:17I mean, I know Caleb didn't really have like a big night, but he just, if you look from the Jet game,
30:25even the one pass he caught, he just seems to have so much more juice than Marshawn Lloyd.
30:31I mean, I dumped some Marshawn Lloyd shares on Saturday night.
30:35That was my next question. And I'm dumping the rest.
30:39I'm not saying Caleb's going to be anything great, but I think he's going to get more of an opportunity going forward.
30:47So do we all feel that Marshawn Lloyd is an automatic drop after what we've seen?
30:52Or are we holding Marshawn Lloyd on Wednesday night?
30:56I'll probably hold in some places, but yeah, he's definitely on that borderline of drop worthy.
31:01Yeah. Well, here's the thing too we have to mention.
31:05The judge has refused to seal the evidence. So I don't think what's his name is coming back, Jacobs, anytime soon because
31:13the NFL does not want another Ray Rice incident.
31:16Yeah. But to me, Matt, it's not so much of a Josh Jacobs, oh, he's going to be back soon, whatever.
31:23It's a three man backfield behind the worst offensive line in football.
31:27None of them are doing shit. And they're all three points to five point type running back.
31:33You never, never mind wanting a three headed running back in a good offense.
31:38You don't want a three headed running back in a, in a shit situation.
31:43I agree. So, I mean, what are we hoping for when we put Marshawn Lloyd in our lineups going forward?
31:50If you're that desperate is, is, you know, what to get like that jet game when he, you know, at least caught a touchdown out of the backfield.
32:00You know, it's, I, I have him in as a drop on a lot of my leagues for Wednesday night.
32:07I'll say that much, especially that we have a lot of options to pick up this week.
32:13In fact, finally, somehow. If you look at these running backs that are available, that are low owned, most of them 50,
32:21you know, at least 60% less, you know, I think Ollie Gordon's only like 9% only than the prime times.
32:28Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The key is who you're dropping them for, for sure.
32:33There's a lot of shit at the end of, you know, people's running back rooms right now.
32:39A lot of RB, right or wrong guys, you're looking at your teams.
32:44You got seven running backs on your team. How many are useful out of the seven?
32:50Well, especially when, you know, three of them are injured.
32:53Yeah. And then, yeah. And then you're putting guys like Hall and Travis Etienne to, you know, on your benches now.
33:01Devin Achan is, by the way, we, we wiped out Etienne, H-A-N, all of the above, whoever you want to say their names, everything.
33:09Both of them are gone in one week. So you won't hear a lot of that.
33:15That's what he gets for changing his name to H-A-N.
33:18Yeah. Five years he goes with Etienne and all of a sudden now it's H-A-N.
33:24Yeah. But, so that's, that's one of the things on my mind right there was that Packers-Falcons game that again, two weeks
33:31in a row with the Sunday being so shitty, the Thursday night game produced, you know, the most fantasy points carnival that you call it.
33:40Even though it was kind of an ugly game at the end of it, London, huge numbers, B-Jean, Golden, Watson, Jordan Love gave you a good game.
33:50You know, so it was a, it was a useful fantasy game.
33:54Yep. All right. No. Oh, go ahead. Just before we go off this topic, the other observation is, I mean, Taylor Shuck,
34:02a must start every week now, I have to assume.
34:05I mean, he's really catapulted himself. The guy's been like a quarterback six for like dating back to the end portion of last year.
34:14Imagine when he gets Jordan Tyson back, what this offense could be.
34:18You know, I hate the winner thing, but Tyler Shuck at the quarterback position and Brock Purdy, these guys were drafted outside the top 10 at the position.
34:28And these guys could absolutely cash in as top five fantasy quarterbacks this year.
34:33Yeah. Last, last week I said Brock Purdy was kind of a pretty boy, Baker Mayfield.
34:39Now, Baker Mayfield wishes he could be Brock Purdy at this point.
34:43So, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think, I know Chris said last week Herbert was going to his benches.
34:50I had to play Herbert last week. It was versus that Bills defense.
34:54And they should have had so many points. They were plus four in the turnovers.
34:59The Bills had 10 penalties. They ran down the field all game long.
35:04They either kicked the field goal or they turned it over inside the 20 or the 10 all game long.
35:11And now Herbert's on my bench this week. I can tell you that much facing Seattle.
35:17That's it. I think. Yeah. I said it last week that there was three quarterbacks that I have a decent amount of that are just not playing good.
35:27You can just see it. It was Drake May, Justin Herbert, Baker Mayfield.
35:31So, you know, those guys just. So, I felt like it was time to, you know, make a move.
35:38Make sure that I have good quarterback. You know, a good number two behind those guys.
35:44And start playing them. Because you just can't keep taking those kind of low scores from those guys week in, week out.
35:52At some point, sometimes we got to be patient with certain guys.
35:56But with like those quarterbacks, you got to start streaming and making it work.
36:01You got guys like Geno Smith and Kirk Cousins that have come out of nowhere.
36:06And they're, you know, they look good. Like they're putting up points.
36:10So, you know, it's hard to argue with it.
36:13If they have good matchups, you got to play those guys.
36:17Nelson, don't you feel that the, you know, this week was the huge turning point, right?
36:23We all, we go in with our draft plans.
36:26We got our players and everything. The first week happens.
36:30You're like, ah, it's still preseason. Week one is wacky, whatever.
36:34Two weeks. All right. You know, I'm a little concerned after two weeks.
36:38Three weeks now is when we start saying, all right, we have three weeks of evidence here.
36:44This guy sucks. He's struggling. This guy isn't going to work out.
36:49Now we can define our lineup starting in week four and say comfortably, okay, it's not happening for Drake May.
36:56It's not happening for Justin Herbert. You know, just like this past week, like Matt said, I had to go back to Herbert that one more time.
37:05Well, now we have three weeks of this offense is broken right now.
37:10Just like Drake May, just like, you know, some of these offenses.
37:14I wrote down Chargers, Pats, Bucks, Texans. These offenses are broken right now.
37:19The one thing too, Chris, is that with Drake May, I was willing to give him a pass because of the defenses
37:26that he's faced to start the year. But my observation, something's wrong with him.
37:31Okay. And I'm talking like shoulder wise, like injury.
37:35Because he's got, to me personally, has one of the best arms in the NFL.
37:40And we saw it time and time again last year with like his deep balls, like the accuracy and everything.
37:47Something's off with him. And I, and I think there's something, whether it's mentally, but injury wise also with Justin Herbert, he doesn't get a pass.
37:56Right. When you're talking about, you gotta, you gotta hold on that Arizona, Vegas, and now the bills.
38:03And like you said, you said, I gotta go back to the well one more time with this bills defense.
38:10Come on. Like he, he's gotta do something. He's gotta start producing.
38:14And now he runs into four weeks of defenses that you don't want.
38:18He's not going to improve, you know? And if he does, so be it, you know, at least bring them back off your bench.
38:27But I'll say this. I think you're going to see some people, some owners drop Drake May and Justin Herbert tomorrow night.
38:35I think you're going to see a couple of shares get dropped.
38:39And, uh, I don't know if we can ever remember a time where QB two off the board in fantasy and QB
38:47five or six people started dropping shares, um, after three weeks.
38:51Uh, here's my honest assessment though of Herbert. Like I've been watching, I watched that bills game and even the other games.
38:59He's made some bad throws. No doubt. I got to give him criticism here, but there's been key passes in these games that keep getting dropped.
39:08Gadsden. They could have pulled away in that big play.
39:11Uh, QJ first down. I mean, QJ's awfulness cannot be understated.
39:15That guy is just trash. I'm sorry. And you know, with may it's, what do you do now?
39:22Cause the next nine games look so ripe. We were going to hold off on that for later, but I'm looking at
39:29that schedule and as good as the bills are, the defensive line is good.
39:34The rest of that defense is trash and the charges proved they went up and down the field all game only scored 16, but moved up and down.
39:44So I mean, I drink may, I don't know what to do with this week.
39:49I'd have more confidence in Herbert somehow. I'd have more confidence in Herbert than may, because based on the talent, patch just don't have the weapons.
39:59I just don't have the talent there at the receiver position.
40:03You could throw your names out there with Dobbs and, and, uh, you know, Demario Douglas.
40:08They don't have the horses there right now to get through.
40:12The AJ. What's the difference from last year? Major, major blow.
40:16There is no difference. There is no difference. There was digs that had, had a few big games.
40:22The point is, is may as he's playing like dog shit and you know, we're, we're calling him out on it.
40:30And, you know, I've got him in a couple of spots and he's going to be on my bench until he shows me he can play better.
40:39I mean, you know, I've, I've got other options at quarterback, you know, like, like Nelson, uh, you know, after seeing the,
40:47you know, what happened on week one, I was a little bit alarmed after week two, I was very alarmed and I
40:55started, you know, making sure that I had somebody else that was startable and I, I started Drake may in one spot last week.
41:04The rest of the time, you know, I, I did the same thing as, uh, as Nelson did.
41:10I started Gino Smith over him. I think quite a few of us did that.
41:15It, you know, you just can't be playing the guy when he's not playing well and you got to sit him on
41:23the bench until he, you know, maybe he does get better to your point.
41:28I agree with last week. That was Jacksonville. They have a very good defense.
41:33You're going to, you're going to Buffalo and Buffalo is just, she's just, I mean, JJ Stroud, uh, did, did it to them.
41:41I mean, every team is moving up and down the field on the bills.
41:46Right. So, I mean, it's like, what do you do?
41:50I mean, unless you have, I mean, I don't know.
41:53You got to, you got to sit him. You got to sit him.
41:58You got to sit him. You sit him. You sit him until they show you they can play better.
42:04I mean, how many times are you going to let him torpedo your team?
42:09Outside of fantasy, obviously I'm a Drake may fan, right?
42:13I'm a Patriots fan. But some, um, um, my observation, like I said, something's wrong more than just, he's playing like crap.
42:21You're saying from the injury from last year carried over.
42:24Probably. There's some, he does not have the same zip on the ball.
42:29Right. He he's under throwing all his deep balls are, have been under thrown.
42:34Okay. That didn't happen last year. Last year he was on the money or he was a little ahead of the receiver.
42:42Never had an under throw. Some, something I just, I, I refuse to believe that he's regressed this much, this, this badly.
42:49Okay. And, and, and I get the whole schedule thing and everything.
42:54He's faced some tough defenses, but there's other parts watching the game that tells me like there's something else going on with him.
43:02So I think you have to sit him. I made that decision last week, week three.
43:07I said, I sat him across the board and, and I streamed quarterback this week against Buffalo.
43:13I get Matt's point that the matchup is good to go back to it.
43:18But just like Justin Herbert, I, I, I can't, they're just not playing good right now.
43:24And I, I gotta see it. I, I, I know the sound, this is like a, like a rookie move, right.
43:32By me saying this, that I, I gotta see it to believe it or whatever.
43:37I gotta see it first, but I do. Well, Nelson, the opposite of that is what we always talk about.
43:44I mean, you're going to stick with a guy and let them sink you for the next four or five, six weeks.
43:52It's over. So you might as well do it the opposite way.
43:56I, I've switched my approach. I don't stick with guys no more.
44:00That's it. I'm getting rid of it. I'm jumping ahead of it.
44:04Once you show me that maybe you're turning in the corner, then I'll come back and bring you back into my lineup.
44:12But I'm not going to die with you for five, six, seven weeks, you know?
44:18No, but here's the contrarian view that I'll, I'll just present.
44:21You just got shit on for three weeks by this guy.
44:25And now he's got a really good matchup. And if you don't play him and he goes off and you miss that, he puts up 40 points.
44:35Look, this is a game, like I said, the reason last week with the charges, the Patriots are in desperate mode here versus the Bills.
44:44They need this game. And you're never as bad as you look the week before.
44:49And it's the NFL. We see, just look at Survivor this year.
44:53Look at Survivor this year and what's happened and how many people are gone.
44:58So, as a Bills fan, I mean, I think they win that game.
45:03I think it's going to be a tough game.
45:06Matt, have you stuck with Drake May and your Drake May teams three weeks in a row?
45:12I started, what's his name, Jordan Love over him last week.
45:16I don't have a lot of Drake. So, you didn't even stick with him for these three weeks?
45:22No, no. That, in that, look, I thought the Packers were going to put up a lot of points last week.
45:30He was facing Jacksonville. My point is now this week, he has a really good matchup with his defense.
45:37That's what I'm trying to say here. So, for you, Matt, he's moved to matchup dependent, I think.
45:43Yes. I'm talking schedule now. But here's the thing.
45:46My philosophy is exactly what Matt is saying for your first few, for your top round picks.
45:52Your first, second, third, fourth round picks. I believe that when you get the bad game, you've got to stick with those
46:00guys through the bad games because when they put up the good games, now you're going to – it's the whipsaw effect.
46:08Okay? Okay? So, like Colston Loveland. My advice to people is you're playing Colston Loveland.
46:13As soon as you start putting TJ Hawkinson and a Rondé Gadsden in the lineup for Loveland, you're getting 2Q and it's going to backfire.
46:22You play those guys. But with quarterbacks in fantasy, I think you can pick up guys off the waiver wire and you
46:30can stream them and it's a viable strategy while you sit a Drake May, a Justin Herbert, guys like that.
46:37I mean, the flip side for me is just, look, I picked up Geno.
46:42I started him in a couple of spots. But what if Geno puts up like a Jalen Hurts night last night and
46:49then you sat Drake May and even if the Bills are winning big, the Patriots aren't giving up this week.
46:57And they're going to throw the ball and you can just – they've got no linebacker secondary to Bills.
47:03So, that's where I'm tuned. I'm just trying to say that.
47:07I think we've got to go off of what we see.
47:11You know, Nelson was saying, you know, it's kind of a, you know, you don't want to play the, well, I've got
47:19to see it before I can trust it. And I get that.
47:23But on the other hand, you know, you have to go by what you have already seen.
47:29What we've already seen from May, you know, leads me to believe that I don't want to trust him against Buffalo because
47:37of the fact that not only does he look like he doesn't have velocity on his throws, he looks off there.
47:44But he's making decisions that don't make sense to me.
47:48You know, that throw into the end zone at the end of the game, week one, made no sense to me.
47:55He's stepping up into the pocket right into sacks rather than standing back where he's got a good pocket and, you know, firing the ball.
48:04And he just, like, runs himself right into a sack.
48:08You know, things like that, they bother me. And when I see quarterbacks who are doing that, that tells me that they are lost mentally.
48:17And clearly he's got something going on with them physically.
48:20So why do I want to jump into that buzzsaw?
48:24I don't want to do it. Okay, so here's the key question.
48:28You're benching May. You're starting Geno over him. You're starting, say, Mariota, Brissett.
48:33All these guys are getting started over May, right?
48:36That's what I'm assuming. I'll look at my teams for week three.
48:40That's exactly who I started over May last week.
48:43I mean, but week three, he was at Jacksonville.
48:46That's a good defense, at least. I mean, I could make that argument.
48:51I'm just – the point is this week versus the Bills.
48:55That's what I'm trying to say. Like, if you're super confident Geno's going to go off against the Bears.
49:02I understand a down game against Jacksonville. What I saw against Jacksonville for May, that I don't understand.
49:08Okay. I just – I thought that was a discussion that – That was a good discussion.
49:14We like bouncing around the show sheet. We don't mind.
49:17But I do think we've about exhausted that topic, so we'll move on.
49:22Last thing I want to say. Can we just stop making excuses for guys like BTJ and Marvin Harrison Jr.?
49:29And, you know, it's okay to beat a top – you know, I don't care what cornerback you went up against.
49:37It's okay to beat a top cornerback. Devontae Adams going up against Pat Sertain.
49:42He beat him. You know, he had a great game against him.
49:46I don't care who BTJ and Marvin Harrison Jr.
49:49are going up against. They're looking terrible, benchable, droppable, whatever you want to say.
49:54Okay. I agree with that. Yeah. No doubt. Those two are definitely bomb picks in round five and six.
50:01Yeah. I think after three weeks, sometimes we just got to – if, you know, it is what it is.
50:08It is the old saying, right? And those are just bad picks.
50:12Yeah. Like if you have them on your teams, you made a bad pick.
50:17The Jags offense and the Cardinals offense really showed who they were this past week, made things a lot more clear for
50:25anyone that had any doubt, in my opinion. You know, Michael Wilson is going to be an unbelievable pick.
50:31We've talked about in the last week or two about like that round six through eight at wide receiver, how nothing came
50:39of it other than like Golden and Josh Downs that could be potential hits.
50:44Michael Wilson is going to headline that class, I think.
50:48You know, 17 targets. Him and Trey McBride are going to be the passing offense.
50:53Matt talked earlier about how Jeremiah Love took over this backfield.
50:57He's going to be a solid mid-round running back pick in round three and four when people are taking him.
51:04They showed their hands, Arizona. Marvin Harrison isn't playable anymore.
51:08In Jacksonville, it's clear Parker Washington is the top gun.
51:11Jacoby Myers is actually going to be another wide receiver, I think, that is going to be a solid flex player going forward for fantasy teams.
51:20And Brian Thomas is the odd man out over there.
51:24Yeah, Josh Cameron. Yeah, there you go. He had the same amount of routes.
51:29But the one thing, I think Marvin is totally done.
51:32And right now, BTJ looks like a terrible pick.
51:36But again, he's somebody I'm keeping on my bench because I think at some point, you know, this season turns up roses for Jacksonville.
51:44And again, there's always injuries. There's always this. And it's a really talented guy.
51:49So I'll drop these guys. And, you know, in the leagues we play in 20 rounds, these aren't guys that you drop.
51:57You know, these are guys that you just you put on your bench, you park them and you say, I'll see you down the road.
52:06Maybe if you could prove yourself or there's an injury, maybe there's an injury to one of these other guys in the offense.
52:14If Michael Wilson went down or Trey McBride went down.
52:17Now, how would you feel about Marvin Harrison putting him in your lineup as a flex player?
52:23You know, when they're in good matchups. You'd hate to drop guys like this.
52:28You don't drop guys like that. You don't drop guys like this.
52:33The only reason why you would see these guys available is dropping them.
52:37OK, so there's two things. You either you're so disgusted that you're just dropping them because you're you're upset with the production or lack thereof.
52:46OK, but you can't tell me that you look up and down your roster that there's guys with more upside than those players.
52:54You put them on the bench and then you try to find playable guys that can get you, you know, 10 to
53:0213 points or something like that in your starting lineup because these guys ain't getting the targets to be able to to produce that.
53:10But you don't go dropping them for some scrub because at the end of the day, like they they're still talented guys
53:18that, you know, all of a sudden there's a trade or whatever and they become the number one on on someone else's roster.
53:26You know that that could backfire. Yeah. Listen, you guys like Brian Thomas, Marvin Harrison in the fifth round, you know, to
53:34be your wide receiver three or maybe in a heavy build your wide receiver for what you hope to have is, you
53:42know, you look down at your your bench, you have maybe a Jordan Addison, a Jacoby Myers, a Malik Washington, who I'm
53:50high on now again going forward, someone that you could get through the this time and bring them into your lineup as
53:58guys that you drafted as your five or your six and and put them in your lineup.
54:04And that's when you luck out if you drafted.
54:07Well, they come in, they hold it down for two, three weeks, maybe while Brian Thomas and Harrison go sit on the
54:15bench till they get their shit together. I mean, Nelson, we did the speculative picks also on guys like Khalif Raymond.
54:22I mean, you know, yeah, Khalif Raymond is 30 whatever years old.
54:26He's been around the league forever. He's never amounted to much.
54:30But you know what? Ben Johnson brought him over for a reason.
54:34You know, you better believe that I was speculatively at him, adding him for almost nothing after week one, because I was
54:42like, I don't know what just happened here, but I'm going to take some shots at Raymond wherever I can afford to
54:50jam him onto the end of my bench. And there's a couple of places where I am playing Raymond, did play Raymond
54:58this past week over Marvin Harrison Jr. And over BTJ.
55:01It's, you know, those are the kind of things you can you got to do.
55:07You can't be too proud to pick up guys like that.
55:11You got to you got to say, you know what?
55:14I understand how this could possibly make sense. It'll probably blow up in my face.
55:19But if it does, I didn't spend that much.
55:23And if it doesn't, I got a super good deal.
55:26Like I'm trying to say here, me and Nelson did these live streams and I was saying it.
55:32BTJ's got that rough first eight weeks. It is a rough first eight weeks.
55:37He was not your, it depends if you went running back heavy or you took tight ends and quarterbacks early.
55:45But a lot of cases, he's your number four.
55:48And he's a guy that you could stash there.
55:51Like you said, you're still drafting receivers. So, I think he has a chance.
55:56I'm not saying he will hit. But that was the kind of the thesis that this is a guy that could be the second half.
56:05Boom. Now that could change with Josh Cameron getting 29% and, you know, catching a touchdown on a beautiful throw that T-Law did.
56:13But we'll see. That's just my point there. I think there's still hope for him.
56:18Or worst case, maybe he gets traded. I think we're all saying there's still hope for these guys.
56:25But they, you know, right now you've got to bench him.
56:28And, you know, while we're on the subject, who else out of those top 100 players are you guys benching?
56:36Chris Godwin. Yeah. Godwin's another. Man, thinking of that fourth, fifth round range of receivers now that we just talked about.
56:43Harrison and Brian Thomas. Man, throw Godwin into the mix.
56:46I was really high on Godwin. I loved picking Godwin on my teams.
56:51I thought it would work out perfectly. Now it's scary that, you know, so Baker's going to miss a month here.
56:59And on top of it, Jalen McMillan goes to IR and he's probably going to miss most of the season.
57:06You know, Godwin has all these things going for him in terms of like what you need.
57:12A buka, the chemistry wasn't well with Mayfield. McMillan's gone.
57:15The defense isn't good where you could get in these matchups.
57:19I know Godwin had a long touchdown back, but now he's got this backup quarterback that I don't know much about here at all.
57:28And to me, Godwin has got to go to your bench until Baker comes back.
57:33And maybe Godwin is a play for, you know, late October.
57:37But for these upcoming weeks, he's going to be on my bench.
57:41And before I flip it over to you guys, I think one of the worst picks, you know, it's looking like is Jadarian Price.
57:50He's going to my bench. You know, I don't have much of him, but the one or two shares I do is going straight to the bench.
57:59Jadarian Price. You know, what's his name? Jalen Daniels.
58:02We don't want to get confused with Jaden Daniels.
58:05But he does have a big arm. He might be better than Jaden Daniels.
58:10Yeah, I mean, he might be better than Baker.
58:14Pretty good chance he's more durable. Yeah. All right, Nelson.
58:17Anybody else in the top 100 you drafted that you're throwing on your bench?
58:22Yeah, I think I agree with Chris. I actually, with Godwin, I want to see a week.
58:28I'm not ready to say that I'm going to bench him until Baker gets back because with a rookie quarterback, sometimes they
58:36just lean on, you know, they focus middle of the field.
58:40And, you know, Godwin operates over there quite a bit.
58:43So I could potentially see where he might actually unlock Godwin.
58:47It's kind of like the Keenum thing with Gurdon, right?
58:51That we saw last night. So you just, you never know.
58:55But I agree with Chris that, you know, this week it's probably a wait and see approach if you've got decent options.
59:02Man, I think there's like, it's ugly out there.
59:06I'd probably say like, Stevenson is another one. Like the Patriots offense just not looking good.
59:11You've got Henderson, you know, way more. Are they playable, Nelson?
59:15I think they are, but like. I think it seems we're a half.
59:20I think you've got to play this week. I think you do.
59:24Yeah. It's tough, but. Why don't they pass the ball to Trevion?
59:28I mean, they have no explosive players. It's just, it's maddening.
59:32The guy in college was known for doing these dynamic pass catches.
59:36Look, maybe you've got to sacrifice a little. He looked to, he looked to improve a bit on the pass block.
59:44He made a couple of really beautiful blocks over the last couple of weeks.
59:49And they won't do it. It's like, you know, you're in a situation here.
59:54No, I agree. Another one that, you know, pains me to talk about because I have quite a bit of these guys.
60:02But Malik Neighbors and Isaiah Likely, I'm really concerned about.
60:05You know, a lot of people come in. Come on in.
60:09But when they went to Winston, I know a lot of people were kind of like, oh, like, I think we're okay.
60:17Like, you know, dart out or whatever. Winston's a gunslinger or whatever.
60:21I didn't. Okay. I wanted to give him a pass.
60:25He looks rusty, blah, blah, blah. Wasn't, you know, ready to gear it up to play or whatever.
60:31And now this week, you know, we were dealing with, you know, bad weather in New York.
60:37Okay. You had high winds, you know, raining. Man, it's still not pretty is the problem.
60:43And I'm wondering if the guy is actually washed.
60:46He may be, Nelson. But Neighbors looked good himself.
60:49Yeah. If he is, we're in trouble, Chris. Because I can tell you right now, like, I have quite a bit of Malik Neighbors.
60:58I did not draft him for the first four weeks of the season.
61:02I drafted him for the second half of the season.
61:06And it was an expensive gamble. Okay. He went in the second round of drafts.
61:11But my theory behind it was that he's going to get right.
61:15He's going to start feeling better. He'll get locked in by the second half of the season.
61:21Give me a healthy Malik Neighbors as a potential difference maker in the second half of the season.
61:28And in the shootout, what I didn't count on was this.
61:32Because the thought did cross my mind. Jackson Dart runs a lot.
61:36He can get hit, get hurt. Okay. There's potential for that.
61:40Just like last year. You know what? They have freaking Jameis Winston.
61:44Gunslinger, baby. I still felt good about it. Because I was like, if the starting quarterback goes down for my top receiver
61:52that I took, I'm still feeling good with Winston.
61:55Right now, I'm not feeling good today. My overall outlook with the Giants here is I don't think Winston's going to be as bad as he's been.
62:04He's needed a couple weeks to shake the rust off.
62:08I kind of throw out last week's game versus Tennessee because it was a slop fest disaster here in New York.
62:15I will say this. Isaiah likely, the airs come out of that balloon after that.
62:21Week one when we all started talking, oh my God.
62:24We have, along with Kincaid, maybe a top five potential tight end in the later rounds.
62:30You can't feel good about that. But here's another thing, caveat with the Giants here.
62:35They just lost Burns on defense. Their defense is falling apart already.
62:40Could we get a little fantasy carnival? And that's when Jameis shines.
62:44And if Jameis is going to shine and the defense is going to suck and we have a little bit of a
62:52fantasy carnival here, Neighbors is going to be that guy that gives us the numbers, I believe.
62:58So I'm maybe not as down on Neighbors as our second round pick, Nelson, as a lot of people probably should be
63:05after three weeks because it's been a disappointing pick, obviously.
63:09Malik Neighbors is three bad games. You know, week one was that, but the last two has been bad.
63:16So let's hope for that with Neighbors. He's got a good matchup.
63:20The next coming weeks, he gets Arizona. He gets Washington.
63:23The schedule opens up a little bit more. They know they have to feed their big dog.
63:29And hopefully he starts getting his season going here in week four.
63:34I have a confession. It better happen with Winston because if not, I do not want J.J.
63:40McCarthy out there. That is not the answer. I'm the one guy that thinks this might work out with J.J.
63:47Oh, my God. I think he's got an arm.
63:50His problem is he doesn't know how to throw the ball not 100 miles an hour.
63:56He's got no touch. But this guy's getting a second chance.
64:00We've seen this happen before. He's getting a second chance.
64:03People forget how terrible Josh Allen was as a pass thrower the first two years.
64:08He's got the profile of a fantasy quarterback. I'm just going to say that.
64:13He can run. He's got a strong arm. It's not accurate.
64:17There's no touch. But in his starts, in his starts, I mean, how many 20 games?
64:23He's got over 20 points in a few of these games.
64:27I understand. You know, he sunk them last year.
64:30It seems like that was just a situation in Minnesota that had to be separated.
64:35And they gave away a fifth-round pick. It's a good trade for the Giants just to take a shot and see what
64:43they have with a guy that was a potential top 10.
64:47But so was Jamarcus Russell. You know, like, sometimes it's a bad pick.
64:52I'll stick by it. McCarthy's a terrible quarterback. And if he gets in the starting lineup, if for whatever reason, if Winston
64:59goes down or they bench Winston and bring McCarthy in, then my neighbor's shares are up in smoke.
65:06If they bench Winston. It didn't cost much. I agree.
65:09As far as the trade itself for the Giants, I agree with it.
65:14Like, it didn't cost much to say, let's see if we can, like, reconstruct this kid and figure things out.
65:21But I can tell you right now that, like, I am hoping that Winston works out and gets out of this funk
65:29and starts becoming the gunslinger of old. Because if they turn to McCarthy, I think we're toast.
65:35Is it Halloween at your house today, Nelson? It's actually mine.
65:39No, that's actually mine. I'm wondering what's going on.
65:42Yeah. Actually my, yeah. Someone needs something. It's a damn door.
65:46Come in. It's probably Spiteri. How dare you call us the sister show?
65:50You got some nerve. What's next? Yeah. All right.
65:54Yeah. JJ McCarthy. I mean, you know, I think he's got all the physical tools.
65:59But if you can't listen to Kevin O'Connell and, you know, try to take some coaching.
66:05And that's basically why they ran him out of Minnesota was he was just not listening to the coaches.
66:11Wanted to do everything his own way. And, you know, he just got tired of it.
66:17I mean, you know, when you're willing to give up a quarterback to basically get a fifth round pick, which is a nothing pick.
66:25And mostly just to free up the roster spot and to free up the salary cap.
66:31Yeah. That's good. Good luck to the Giants on that one.
66:35Hope it works out. But, yeah, I hope Jameis doesn't go down.
66:39So let's move real quick into the over-performing offenses.
66:42Talk a little bit about who's over-performing. I think we should start off talking about the Raiders, Matt.
66:493-0, scoring a lot of points. What do you think?
66:52I want to see what happens this week. Big game.
66:56Kansas City. You know, that AFC West Classic. One of the first times in years I'm excited for a Raiders-Chiefs game.
67:03We were being, like, force-fed this every, like, day after Thanksgiving or some prime time.
67:09You know, Christmas Day. So, look, I mean, Kirk Cousins, what, it's like six touchdown passes.
67:14It's been insane. It's gone well. Brock Bowers is back.
67:18You know, this is the challenge, though. This is where, you know, the spectacularly— It's a real-life challenge, Matt.
67:25Matt, it's a real-life challenge. But for fantasy, the wheels are up and going to stay up in the Raiders' offense, Matt.
67:32That's the thing. I don't care about are the Raiders real?
67:36Are they going to beat the Chiefs? No, but fantasy-wise, this team's legit, and they're going to be there all year long offensively.
67:44And Brock Bowers is going to be the steel of the century in rounds four and five.
67:50The last three days of the fantasy drafts, we should have all been attacking that like it was the gift that keeps on giving.
67:59That's—it's going to be ridiculous. Yes, but like you said, Brock Bowers.
68:03I have a lot of Brock Bowers shares. I am rooting for him tremendously.
68:08But again, I still have some concerns on Bowers' help going forward.
68:12We've just seen this in the past two years.
68:16So, look, things do look on the up and up for the Raiders.
68:20I agree there. But now let's see as it progresses.
68:24We talk about schedule and stuff, and you see how things go.
68:28Schedule's going to get a lot different going forward.
68:31They do have an easy schedule. But I'm just saying that.
68:35I agree with you fantasy-wise. I drafted Jente eighth overall in August.
68:39So, I'm in on this team. I'm just saying we've got to be a little cautious, too.
68:45Cousins was a great pickup last week, too. I mean, you could throw them into your starting lineup everywhere.
68:52You know, no problem at all. Like, I had a lot of Baker Mayfield.
68:57I picked up Cousins and started them over Mayfield every single time.
69:01Last year, you needed CMC, Jonathan Taylor, and JSN to win at Fantasy.
69:06That was the clear advantage. This year, it's still going to be JSN again.
69:11And it's going to be Jameer Gibbs, and it's going to be Brock Bowers.
69:16Those are going to be the three teams, the three players that you're going to see at the top of everyone's teams
69:24at the overall standings and the players you need to win your league.
69:28That's my opinion. I might throw in Kenneth Walker there with you.
69:32He might be one of those guys. There's a few others.
69:36Dijon. There's a few. Yeah, but I think Kenneth Walker's safe.
69:40I don't know. Amonra looks decent to me. I don't know.
69:44You might need him. Yeah. All right. How about the Panthers?
69:48Another offense that's looked real good through the first three weeks.
69:52Are they a product of the schedule, guys? Or are they something you can believe in?
69:58I didn't think they looked all that great against Cleveland this past weekend.
70:02They didn't? Yeah, they didn't. Listen, it's the NFL.
70:05Some teams, yeah, they're pushovers or whatever. But going to Cleveland, I didn't think it was a slam dunk, easy matchup for Carolina to pull off.
70:15Especially on the road. Yeah. 100%. It's the NFL.
70:18The same where they just go there and blow them out.
70:22I figured that Cleveland would give them a tough fight, and they did.
70:26But with Bryce Young, what I'm trying to figure out is in a game where they were trailing, I expected more from Tett McMillan.
70:35And I haven't had a chance to re-watch that game.
70:38I was paying attention, but I don't know. I'm expecting more targets from McMillan.
70:43Treat them like a one. Yeah. Yeah. And it was like you got this Bryce Termaine kid getting targets.
70:50Waller. As soon as Coker went out, Waller started getting more of the shorter routes and stuff.
70:56I don't know if Cleveland, again, I got to watch it a little more carefully to see if they were bracketing McMillan or what was going on.
71:06They were like, we're just going to take him away or whatever.
71:10But that was another observation of mine because I do have a decent amount of McMillan.
71:15And I'm like, okay, last week looked good. Everything's back on schedule.
71:20You know, let's continue. And then this past week, I'm like, I don't know what the heck happened.
71:26Stay on that game real quick. One guy we overlooked this whole show, I think we have to mention his name.
71:34Deshaun Watson has 25 points or more in the last two games.
71:38We talked about all the other backups. I mean, I'm just saying, he's got some weapons now.
71:44And Ovecaro's like the Cleveland offense. You got two good rookies.
71:48He's fanning now has emerged back to being that weapon of mass destruction.
71:52So, you know, we just didn't talk about him.
71:55So it was great to see fan and have that type of game and hopefully emerge now as a weekly top target in the game.
72:04You know, everybody was drafting Casey Concepcion, you know, to be that that guy.
72:09It looks like he's third in the pack. I mean, he's running all the routes, everything.
72:15Maybe it clicks at some point. So throw your hands up in the air between him and Boston each week.
72:22But Harold Fannin hopefully, you know, puts a lot of these games together.
72:27I was starting to get worried about Fannin after the first couple of weeks.
72:32But if Watson and him are going to have that chemistry and everything, then, you know, the Fannin owners feel a lot
72:39better about themselves and what their lineups look like.
72:43Instead of looking for help at tight end position and maybe having a little bit of a grenade on their hands.
72:50Now they have a guy that after this week, they feel like, all right, I'm going to get my money's worth out
72:58of a guy I took in the top 100 at tight end in the top 10 overall at the position.
73:05For the Browns, is there anything worse that could possibly happen than Deshaun Watson giving them just enough hope that they try
73:13to keep him a starting quarterback next year? I mean, they've got a ton of draft capital saved up.
73:19They've got to go into the quarterback market. Yeah, but what about this year?
73:24Like, what about, I mean, he's put up, he's actually looked pretty good the last two weeks.
73:30Yeah, fantasy-wise, but you're going to start him against Pittsburgh?
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74:18Why wait? My point is, we talked about all these other backup quarterbacks.
74:23He's got weapons. Casey Concepcion seems to have eaten up all the Jerry Judys, so that's coming, Casey Concepcion.
74:30We know Boston, you know, he's looked good. So if this guy's got these weapons and if Jenkins could run, is he somebody?
74:38Matt, I think it's a matter of when you talk about Watson and all these other quarterbacks that are on waivers sitting there.
74:46You know, there's four to six of them. And, you know, these guys aren't every week plugging and putting your lineup and forget about them.
74:55They're not that good. But it's just like Gino where, you know what, you see down the schedule, hey, next week I got a tough situation here.
75:04Let me go get Watson. He's playing, you know, Dallas.
75:08Or he's playing the Dallas secondary. He's playing the Bears.
75:11He's playing the Lions. You know, they're good enough to pick them up, put them in, and get 25, 30 points.
75:19That was my point. Is he somebody you're considering to pick up?
75:23Because, I mean, we all had – I had Watson done after week two before the second week started.
75:30I'm like, he's never starting a game in Cleveland.
75:33They gave him the two road games, and he's gone.
75:36And now it's a different scenario. Yeah. Yeah, I think you've got to look at it differently.
75:42He's playing good enough that these rookie receivers are relevant, and Fannin is now back to being relevant.
75:49So, yeah, I think Matt makes a good point that, you know, the – listen, when you have quarterbacks that are injured,
75:57there's a ton of them that are injured already.
76:00And you have quarterbacks that are struggling that you don't have confidence in.
76:04And you've got to stream guys like this, Kirk Cousins, Geno Smith, Deshaun Watson.
76:09They're putting up solid production for fantasy. I'm looking forward to Matt debating the Cleveland quarterback with the Greek on Friday.
76:17Yeah. We're going to talk about massage parlors. All right.
76:20How about the Saints? We kind of talked about them already, but you guys fully bought into the Saints offense here?
76:28Any concerns about – How about Noah Fitts? Noah Fitts.
76:31Oh, he can only see one side of the field, any of that?
76:36It's a good offense. Kellen Moore offense. Like, I was bought in before the season started.
76:42It made sense. I mean, coaches. You know, that's the new way.
76:46Buy into these offensive geniuses. Kellen Moore, Kubiak. Look what they're doing.
76:50They're taking teams that have been, you know, perennial dead offenses in the past years.
76:55And they have them humming like the Raiders and the Saints here.
77:00So, I'm buying in big time on both these offenses, quarterbacks, everything included.
77:04You know, the Saints are – Saints are a wagon.
77:08But how often is it you're getting these two tight ends that are just becoming like super weapons in the red zone?
77:16You know, maybe you don't want them that much involved, you know, if you have the receivers.
77:22But the other guy is Kendrick Miller. Can he stay healthy?
77:25I don't know. But when he plays and he's on the field, he usually looks good.
77:31And opportunity in life is almost always everything. And that's coming.
77:35Yeah. All right. Last one I want to cover for sure.
77:39The Jets have looked pretty solid on offense. What do you guys think?
77:44Are the Jets going to continue to be a good source of fantasy points?
77:49Or is it just be glad for what you got?
77:52You know, the first three weeks what I saw was exactly what I was hoping for.
77:58That the offense was going to be all Garrett Wilson and Brees Hall consolidated.
78:03You know, kind of like a Falcons, you know, where, you know, they're very similar.
78:08Like, Brees Hall could have been Bijan, Garrett Wilson, Drake London, and not much else.
78:13But Sadiq is taking the next step here. It looks like he's going to be the number two in this offense going forward.
78:21But, you know, as soon as I got really excited watching that game versus the Lions this past week, we lose Brees Hall now for a few weeks.
78:31I'm not a Braylon Allen guy. So, you know, maybe him and Isaiah Davis be, you know, a 60-40 tandem going forward here.
78:40But the only one to be excited about is Garrett Wilson.
78:43I think he's just going to get peppered on a weekly basis.
78:48Their schedule was a dream. That was another thing I was loving.
78:52You know, you have the Lions. Then you have the Bears.
78:56Then you have the Browns, I think. These three-week stretch here.
79:00And their schedule throughout the season is really nice with some great matchups.
79:04So, hopefully Brees Hall is only out like two weeks.
79:08And then, you know, it could go right back to having him in your fantasy lineups.
79:13I see it a little different because you left that Adonai Mitchell who didn't play close to the finger.
79:20Yeah, but I don't know if he's going to be there.
79:24If he couldn't go on Sunday, is he dealing with a broken finger?
79:29Like, do you really want a receiver that struggles with drops coming into games with a broken finger?
79:35It's not like it's going to be healed in a week.
79:39This is something that was obviously bad enough where he couldn't catch the ball, you know?
79:45I mean, I don't know. They said it wasn't a broken finger, so I'm going to go by that.
79:51But if he's out, even if he's out this week, I'm talking the rest of the season.
79:57As I mentioned earlier in the show, if Geno has protection, I feel confident in this offense.
80:03Because Geno is good enough to get it done.
80:07Now you've got Garrett Wilson. Just say Adonai's healthy.
80:10You've got him. You've got Sadiq. You've got three options on offense, as you mentioned.
80:15They're scheduled for the most part. Last place, very good schedule.
80:19So, yeah, I'm in on this offense. And if it's a – I'd rather have Brees, without a doubt, from my shares alone.
80:27But I think he's better than the other two.
80:30But a Braille and Allen, Isaiah Davis combination, I think, could be good enough in the running back position for them, considering
80:38the options they have when they throw it. Yeah.
80:41Geno Smith, best quarterback in the New York City area.
80:45Let that one sink in. Hey, it's better than DeVito having him.
80:49You know, we've got to deal with this guy.
80:52I feel like he is. The year is 2026, and the New York quarterbacks are Jameis Winston and Jameis Smith.
80:59It's like that TCU game. All right. Let's move to the other side.
81:04Some underperforming offenses. I think the operative question is, is it going to continue, and what is it going to take to break them out of it?
81:14I'll start off with the Vikings. I think that's really obvious.
81:17I mean, the quarterback position is a big, giant, sucking black hole at this point.
81:23Kyler Murray has looked like ass for many games before he came to the Vikings.
81:28He does not look any better in a Vikings uniform.
81:32Carson Wentz, same deal. I honestly might hold out more hope for Carson Wentz than Kyler Murray at this point.
81:39But they just traded away their third string quarterback, and their first two quarterbacks are no good at all.
81:45I'm struggling to see how this offense is ever going to get untracked with those two guys playing quarterback.
81:52Tell me I'm wrong here, guys, but I just don't see it.
81:56I think much – sorry, Matt, did you want to go?
82:00No, no, no, you got it. You got it.
82:03I think much like Case Keenum in the Ben Johnson offense, I think for O'Connell, he was honestly, in hindsight now, looking
82:11back, he was better off just signing Darnold and keeping him.
82:15And I am going to venture to guess that this team would be a contender and the offense would have zero issues right now with Darnold at quarterback.
82:25Right. But what can they do at this point?
82:28I mean, how much longer can Aaron Jones hold up?
82:32They did great for a third quarterback, I think.
82:35I think that's the issue is that if you can bring in a guy who can run the offense because the O'Connell
82:43offense has proven over the years that it's very good, okay, when you have the right leader at quarterback.
82:49And that's the issue right now that O'Connell is running into is if you can get somebody that can keep the offense
82:57on schedule, timing, you know, that's the problem. And that's why I was saying, like, with Kyler, you know, I'm not 100%
83:05sold that he's going to be able to run this offense.
83:09The answer, you know, might be out there. I don't know, like Mac Jones or someone like that.
83:15It's going to take, like, a veteran guy that's just kind of whatever, average.
83:20You get them cheap and they can learn and run the offense.
83:25That they're intelligent in between the years and they can pick up the offense real quick.
83:30That's the only thing that I can come up with.
83:34I don't really have any other answers for Minnesota this year.
83:38Yeah, I fully agree. To Scott's question in the chat, am I down on Jefferson for the rest of the season?
83:45Yeah, I think, you know, I don't see how he's going to pay off his draft cost with the quarterbacking that he's got right now.
83:54Can he kind of hold okay for you, you know, and make it so it's not just a total disaster?
84:01I think so. But other than that, yeah, I think the idea of Justin Jefferson re-ascending to elite status is pretty much
84:09dead until he gets better quarterback play. I think they need a running game as well.
84:14I mean, look, what Aaron Jones is trying to do these last two weeks, he's got like 40 carries.
84:21That's just not his bag anymore. I mean, he's like 33 years old.
84:26So, I mean, look, there's a lot of concerns there.
84:29But, I mean, I'm not going to hold. I'm going to disagree.
84:34I'm not going to say Jefferson's done for the year or even Madison.
84:38I'm going to disagree with Dan on that one with the, you know, Jefferson won't be elite until they get rid of Kyler.
84:46I mean, we saw in week one Jefferson came out and he went right back to elite status.
84:53Week two, solid, you know, and then, you know, caught two balls for 32 yards right off the bat.
84:59Then got hurt. So, Kyler was feeding him and then he had to adjust to life without Justin Jefferson.
85:06And I don't know if that offense is any good with no run game and just Jordan Addison really in the pass game for three quarters versus Tampa.
85:16So, I think the game would have looked a lot different and Jefferson was on his way to putting up some big numbers versus Tampa.
85:25But he went down early. So, I think the jury's still out on Kyler.
85:30And I hope you're right. I think we'll see.
85:33Well, let me ask you a question. Would you prefer Wentz or Kyler?
85:38Because, I mean, I think Kyler's still out. Kyler.
85:41I'll take Kyler still. But I think it's a situation where they both know the mission.
85:47They both know the mission is get the ball to Justin Jefferson and Kevin O'Connell will make that happen.
85:53Will there be some balls batted down, you know, each week with Kyler behind center?
85:59Yeah. But if he goes down and Wentz is my guy, then I'm fine with that, too, because he's a veteran just
86:06like we saw Case Keenum last night. So. That's what I was going to say.
86:12Wentz kind of seems like the Bayesian Keenum of the Bears running that offense for the Vikings, which, you know, that's all.
86:19But I don't know. All right. How about how about the Texans?
86:24I mean, to me, the Texans is it's it comes down to they got a terrible offensive line and they've got nobody threatening, you know, down the field.
86:34So teams are just stacking the line of scrimmage and just daring them to to beat them with short throws or with the running game.
86:42And it's just not happening. Shout out to C.J.
86:46Stroud. Yeah. The offensive coordinator, he called them out.
86:49He said we're way too conservative. That's what they seem to want to do.
86:54I mean, what's his name? Isaiah Hutchinson. Did he break his collarbone in that game?
86:59You know, I just don't know why they don't get Jalen or well involved when you don't have no Nico or Woody Mox more in the passing game.
87:09I mean, you talk about challenging them, you know, defenses deep.
87:13Like that's why you traded for Keyshawn Booty. Like, yeah, that's his bread and butter.
87:18That's what he was very good at, you know, is downfield.
87:22And you're sitting there and like you're watching the game.
87:26You're like, what is this offense? Like, what are they doing?
87:30They're not even playing the guy. Like, I don't get it.
87:33It's just a – I think it's not – I think you can make it work with the players they have.
87:41I think it's just bad coaching. Well, the last two weeks has been Isaiah Hutch – Xavier Hutchinson and what's the other guy's name?
87:49Jared Wayne. Those have been the guys they've been using.
87:53So, I don't know. So, yeah, that's – My bet on Houston over 9.5 wins is not looking real good right now, guys.
88:01Looks as good as my Chargers over 9.5 then.
88:04Yeah, you and me both. We'll be crying about it at the end of the season for sure.
88:11And speaking of the Chargers, Chris, I mean, what the hell is wrong with the Chargers?
88:16Is this – is it McDaniel? Is it the offensive line?
88:20Is it Herbert? You know, we kind of – we talked about it a little bit earlier.
88:26But what do you see as a problem? The offensive line isn't as good as I thought it was going to be.
88:34I thought they were – you know, with them getting some guys back this year off injury, all the struggling, there's no lanes.
88:42Maybe people are right when they say that the run scheme that McDaniels brought in doesn't fit Omari and Hampton and fits Keaton Mitchell better.
88:51However, I'm a big Omari and Hampton owner, and I'm very, very worried.
88:56I think that I'm going to be pretty wrong on him being a late first-round pick smash at running back.
89:03Week one was promising. Since then, the offense and him have been discouraging.
89:07Herbert has no touch on his passes, doesn't have the time behind the line.
89:12Quinton Johnston is a sieve, and, you know, they don't have much.
89:17They lost their tight end room. Arande Gatson, I don't know what happened to this guy.
89:22He's a zero. And it's really just, you know, if you're a Ladd McConkie owner for the rest of this season, in
89:30this offense, you're just hoping that he's doing it on volume, and they're playing from behind.
89:36And Ladd McConkie is going to be a guy that sees 10 targets a week and puts together some good numbers.
89:43So the offense in a whole, I really had high hopes for.
89:47I know a lot of us did. But three weeks in, it's all arrows pointing down, and it looks like a disaster.
89:55And like we said earlier, the schedule just is brutal now.
89:59You know, the first three weeks were great schedule-wise, and they bombed then.
90:04And now the schedule gets really tough, and we're hoping for a turnaround in all aspects of it.
90:10So abort mission is my game plan. Yeah, I'm going to just hope this line works out.
90:16It's always darkest before the dawn because, you know, there's really no hope.
90:21Oh, look, Seattle, I'm pretty much benching everybody. Maybe like, well, I don't know if I have to.
90:27But, yeah, it's ugly. But I think it has to get better at some point.
90:32There's too much talent on this offense. Joe Ault is a major concern because I consider him to be very good.
90:40But he doesn't look very good the last couple weeks.
90:43Yeah. Are we concerned about Mitchell playing the same amount of snaps as Hampton?
90:48So, Nelson, here's the thing. Yeah, I mean, when you go into this year, at least your mind frame is the Chargers
90:56are going to be one of the best teams, one of the best offense, scoring a lot of points, which means when
91:04you think it out, you know, second half charges up 10, 14, 17 points, more carries for Hampton, you know, on and on.
91:12And you don't have to worry about a Keaton Mitchell, you know, killing the clock out or getting all those, you know, eight to 10 extra carries.
91:22Now the whole narrative is switched. And now they're playing from behind most games.
91:26That's when you need a Keaton Mitchell more than an Amari and Hampton.
91:31So, you know, the arrow is pointing up for Keaton Mitchell in this offense.
91:36He'd be the one guy that I think you can now take from your bench and maybe slip him in as your RB2 if you're a little desperate.
91:46My big concern after three weeks with Hampton, and I do like Hampton a lot, is that he only has three targets after three weeks.
91:55And that was something that was becoming, especially late in the season last year, he was becoming that guy.
92:02But again, I just, I got to believe, you know, I think we're in for another rough week, but I got to
92:09believe this is just too much talent there and it gets better.
92:14Yeah, I would agree with that. But I think it's got to get better than what it's been so far.
92:21It's just tough. Mike McDaniel might not be the genius that we thought he was, though, because Chris was earlier talking about,
92:28hey, all you got to do is follow the offensive geniuses.
92:32And for the most part, that's worked out. But this is that one glaring exception where it has not worked out very well at all.
92:41So hopefully they can get things turned around. Last team, the Broncos, started off real slow weeks one and two.
92:48And then for about the first, you know, at least the first half on Sunday night before they started turning it on a little bit.
92:57And finally getting their offense moving. You guys concerned about the Broncos offense?
93:02Is this going to come together or no? I think you've got a new offensive coordinator that obviously is talented because Peyton
93:10didn't want to let him go and gave up the play calling to keep him.
93:15I think it's I'm going to I'm going to chalk it up to there's too much talent on this team.
93:22The offensive line is very good. So that's not necessarily a problem.
93:26I think it's too much talent for this team to fail.
93:30So if Davis Webb doesn't get it into a rhythm, I could see at some point Peyton just taking over the play calling.
93:38So although it hasn't been ideal to start the season, I'm seeing glimpses that I think the offense is going to be OK.
93:46It's one of my offenses that I'm least worried about.
93:50So I mean, I look at it as in the running back position.
93:55I have very little hope on Dobbins. I think Coleman's eventually the guy when he's getting he's getting cut Wednesday.
94:02It's the guy. Dobbins is getting cut. Some people caught him last week and I was like, whoa, like you don't see,
94:09you know, a player like that get caught. Not that he's like anything.
94:14But but you see something in the bright side.
94:17If he didn't get popped in that game, he was looking like he's the only fantasy relevant running back that you can
94:25start with some type of confidence because he's going to catch passes.
94:29But when you look at Dobbins and I've got I've got some Dobbins shares.
94:34I do too. Like you look at it. He doesn't catch passes.
94:38OK. He gets a few carries. Doesn't look all that great while he's getting it.
94:44So I don't see his role changing at all.
94:47So when I look at it and I say, OK, I'm going to drop Dobbins, not even keep him on the bench.
94:55Why is that? It's because he's already in the role that you that you want.
95:00Like when you're picking up like a high end handcuffed running back, it's because of the what if.
95:06What what if he gets an opportunity? What's it going to look like?
95:11Is he going to be able to produce? Dobbins has shown me already that he's in that role and it doesn't look good to me.
95:20So like to me. I'm surprised you're dropping him, though, Nelson.
95:24I mean, I understand all the points of dropping him.
95:27But with the way the landscape of running backs is, I mean, would you rather have like a, you know, Claiborne or
95:35Tyrone Tracy as your RB six or seven at the end of your bench instead of a guy that, you know, is
95:43in a starting lineup and a good offense? He's not doing much.
95:47He doesn't look good. I agree on all those points.
95:51Add in the fact that Jonah Coleman surprisingly went to IR and it's just a two man backfield.
95:57So I mean, I can't do it just on the fact that look, these offenses look terrible, except for the two second halves of the past two weeks.
96:07They've looked terrible first half of the last two weeks and they got a lot of help for the refs.
96:14I mean, it's like Coleman Harvey. Yeah, I want them.
96:18Waddle. It's going to have his games. I mean, I am very bullish on.
96:23I think they need to throw the Baltimore's Pat Bryant.
96:26I think Bo Nix is the typical sucks in real life, but it's good for fantasy quarterback.
96:32He's not good. He does suck in real life.
96:35Real quick. Jonah Coleman was dropped in a couple of my prime times two weeks ago, and I thought he was a huge ad last Wednesday.
96:44And somebody won him $464. And I was the runner up at like four and change because I was trying to get some running back help.
96:54So dodge that bullet, guys. But man, how cruel of a fantasy game is it that the Jonah Coleman owners that thought
97:01they were getting a big ad the next day, he gets put on IR.
97:06So that was a tough one. I still think I want Jonah Coleman, though.
97:11I think he's going to be. Yeah, I mean, listen, you're going to have to wait, though, until like November now, though, Matt.
97:20That's sort of, you know. Four weeks? I mean, that does suck.
97:24Yeah, there's some situations out there that if you're needing an RB2 on your team and you need to get some type
97:32of production and you've got all these injured guys or guys that are just not getting it done, like Dobbins, Marshawn Lloyd.
97:39What a hoax that was, though, guys. I have to go back to Lloyd, but oh, my God, were we all excited
97:47about getting Lloyd and I have him in the 100K Legacy League and I thought I had the steel pick of the draft and like, oh, my God.
97:57It makes sense. Like it made sense. I know a lot.
98:01I know a lot of people now in hindsight can can say, ha ha, like Marshawn Lloyd is who he is.
98:08You guys fell for it or whatever. But like at the end of the day, with Jacobs going on the exempt list, Lloyd is a talented player.
98:18He can catch the ball out of the backfield.
98:21They had a void. It made sense to me of taking the gamble and drafting and seeing what we get out of it.
98:29And I think part of it, too, is that the offensive line is banged up for the Packers and they just so they can't run the ball.
98:39I think that's just that's part of it also.
98:42What's the line? The greatest trick the devil ever played.
98:46Terrible, terrible. There's been a lot of them. People right down the line.
98:50100%. Every year. All right. Anything else, guys? We've been at it for an hour and a half here.
98:57That's all I have. I guess the thing I'll end off with is Friday morning should be fun.
99:03So tune in. There you go. Janice Ross plugging her.
99:07You guys are riled up. I can't. I looked at my phone for a second.
99:12There's like a massive. Spatari's killing me on the.
99:15Yeah. Spatari's killing me in the text. Paulie Smollett.
99:19All right. All right. Yeah. Dan, take us out.
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