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2:18All right. What's up? And welcome back, everybody. It's Fantasy Football Weekly with your host, friend, and faithful narrator, John Laghezza.
2:25Your friend and mine, Mr. Jake Trowbridge. Jakey, it is ABD season.
2:29Always be drafting, my friend. It is awesome. Oh, gosh.
2:32Really enjoying the show and having so much to process with all the moving pieces, news, injuries, camp notes, preseason games.
2:39Man, what was happening so slowly, right? The snowflakes were falling.
2:43Has turned into the avalanche ready to pour. How are you doing, my friend?
2:47I mean, I'm doing fine. Can we ask how all of the other NFL players are doing right now?
2:53Can we get a roll call? Is everybody good?
2:56Is everybody healthy? John, I'm a big scary movie fan.
3:00I like a good horror movie. I enjoy being scared like that.
3:04I haven't found a recent horror movie that can live up to logging on to social media and seeing what is happening to our favorite players right now.
3:13It is an outright bloodbath out there. Yeah, it feels like we do this every year.
3:18And then also every year, I'm like, except this year, it really is like that, right?
3:23Every year, it feels like there's more injuries than before.
3:26Except this time, it really does feel that way.
3:29Impactful fantasy stars are going down. We're all waiting with bade breath with open draft rooms, a lot of us.
3:36Slow drafts, basketball drafts are going on. I'm in redraft leagues.
3:40You're in a couple also. And I've never really been that guy from a moral standpoint, letting my clock bleed out to wait for news.
3:48This is that one time of year where sitting on the slow clock could really save you a lot.
3:54We're going to get into some of the news and notes.
3:58But what do you think about the injury landscape?
4:01Yes, I get it's going on. And we're all like kind of driving ourselves nuts right now.
4:06Yeah. Is it just living in the moment that we think this year is worse?
4:11Do you actually think it is? It's probably a little bit of the fact that we get so much more news.
4:18Like I think a few years ago, some of this stuff, if it wasn't immediately serious, we just didn't know about it
4:25or didn't care about it right away. But now it's everything is flashing in front of your face all the time with a big warning sign.
4:34So I mean, it's probably a little bit of that.
4:37But you know, you could only see so many groin injuries pop up on your timeline and not freak out.
4:43Are the groins okay, John? Are we okay? What's the plural of groin?
4:48Is it groins? One groin, two groins? Now, to your point, back on track, it is true, right?
4:54In this ubiquitous age of information, I think we get exposed to more info than we normally would have.
5:00And you and I are very locked in to the DMs.
5:03As soon as a note happens, I put it to make sure we won't skip it.
5:09But some of them, like you mentioned, get rectified 10 minutes later.
5:13Player X left the field if they're getting hit in the thigh.
5:1610 minutes later, it's, you know, Player X is back on the field.
5:21But that didn't stop a thousand accounts on social, like you mentioned, from total doom saying, it's over.
5:27Change your boards, move your ranks. Right now, just last thing before we dive into it.
5:32I'm trying to wait until I get definitive news, similar to what we're doing on the show, waiting to cover something until
5:39it's definitive and I'm actually moving players in my ranks.
5:42Do you think that's safe? Do you think I should be a little more reactive?
5:47No, reactive is one thing. Overreactive, I think, is where we often cross over the line with this stuff.
5:53And yeah, you're moving guys down or off your draft board when you don't really know what's about to happen.
6:00I get playing it safe, but that's often a different way to lose in your drafts, I think.
6:06All right, let's get into some of these news and notes.
6:09First up, it's my New York Jets and Brees Hall, who had been going in the third.
6:15I've had Brees Hall as a second round pick.
6:18He's on a good majority of my teams right now.
6:21We mentioned the groin. They're saying his groin injury is confirmed to be weeks and not months, as if that's supposed to make us feel a lot better.
6:30I'm still open to drafting Hall because I think Geno will normalize.
6:34I think they're going to be a lot better than the public thinks.
6:39Running backs are hard to find. So if Hall is getting to the end of the third, early fourth, I think I'm still going there.
6:47I think I'm now passing on him early third for, let's say, Zay Flowers.
6:51Even Trey McBride, depending on the room. I'm also pushing up Braylon Allen, who looks like maybe he's more of a direct handcuff than I thought.
7:00What do you think about the Jets' room? Yeah, I think there was a time very recently where Brees Hall versus Derrick
7:07Henry was a real point of contention for me if I was taking a running back around that range.
7:13Now it's like, well, Derrick Henry gets the obvious sort of win out of this just by the virtue of not having a hurt groin at the moment.
7:22So I think taking Brees Hall in the fourth makes a lot of sense.
7:27It's I don't know what the re-injury rates are for groin injuries.
7:31Again, we're not doctors here. But it does feel like if they're saying a few weeks and if you're okay with the
7:38first couple of weeks of your season potentially being slow for Brees Hall, meaning he's not going to come out and give
7:45you 15 to 25 fantasy points immediately, then go for it.
7:49But if you're one of those people who needs to have your week one lineup set and forget, that might be a
7:56guy that I would still be downplaying. Yeah, it's really rough.
8:00I'm very much an injury pessimist, but I have found that pendulum can swing a little too far where in years past,
8:07I've maybe scratched off a Brees Hall for news like this.
8:11They're saying it could be a couple of weeks.
8:13That would still give him a couple of weeks before the season.
8:17He's familiar with the book, the playbook and the team.
8:21So there is a chance that he hits the ground running and is still fine.
8:26So I'm keeping him. I'm keeping the light on for him.
8:29I think it'll be fine. Next up, I have a huge amount of gratitude for you.
8:34I've always been very clear. I'm not a prospector.
8:37You were warning us about the Saints wide receiver, Jordan Tyson.
8:41He's now falling down to the wide receiver 38, 80, 25.
8:45You could probably expect that he's expected to miss at least two months with a hamstring injury.
8:50You mentioned the trepidation with that same injury repeating itself with the re-aggravation rates.
8:55Now that's kind of manifested. I don't know, man.
8:58I was already drafting Devon Vele very, very late.
9:01It would have to be a redraft 19th or 20th round in the best ball.
9:06But now that could be viable. Also, I'm giving Juwan Johnson a boost.
9:10I don't know when we're going to see Tyson.
9:13It could be quite a long time. This one I may be scratching off my board.
9:18And maybe in redraft, if you have an IR spot, he's an interesting stash.
9:23And if not, maybe come like week six, we're looking to add him.
9:27But I don't think I'm looking to use up a viable roster spot with Jordan Tyson.
9:32Yeah, it's a bummer. And by the way, Producer Robbie coming in with the applause.
9:37I want to be very clear. That was about my prospect work on Jordan Tyson, not celebrating the injury to Jordan Tyson.
9:44Very clear about that. But it almost hurts me more because, John, I was just finally starting to turn a corner with
9:51Jordan Tyson going like, OK, I mean, he's been at camp and he has been looking really good.
9:57And knock on wood, there hasn't been any flare-ups with this injury.
10:01I was just starting to get interested in Jordan Tyson.
10:04And then the rug gets pulled out. I think you make a salient point about if you're comfortable stashing a guy on
10:12IR, if you have that capability in your league, the upside is still massive for Jordan Tyson whenever he gets back.
10:18I personally am not bumping up the rest of the guys too much.
10:23I'm doing just a little bit of a copy and paste from last year in terms of Juwan Johnson, who did not
10:30have Jordan Tyson to compete with back then, was still pretty up and down for my taste for a tight end.
10:37But you're getting him very late. Bryce Lance is a little bit interesting, I guess.
10:42Another rookie who had some hype coming in. Obviously drafted much, much later than Jordan Tyson by the Saints.
10:48I think it's just Chris Olave. It's once again his world.
10:52So if you had any qualms about drafting him at his current ADP, I think that has to vanish.
10:58Yeah, I've been pretty much aggressively drafting Olave as well.
11:01As far as Tyson goes, like Bobby Sherman would say, deep cut there, easy come, easy go.
11:07Saints do have a week eight bye. And I think that's something we do have to eyeball when it comes to these longer term injury timelines.
11:15That, I know it's a little bit beyond two months, but that feels like, especially with the kind of whole rookie thing,
11:22post bump rookie bye we're all used to, maybe that feels like a time that might be right.
11:28So again, that's a pretty far ways off. But yes, I would like to stress that IR thing again.
11:34There is going to be a spot in home leagues where you would absolutely take a Jordan Tyson over whatever is left.
11:42And you just draft him and stash him and you get like a free week zero ad.
11:47I'm always down for that. I think that's a really good way about it.
11:52Next one, another rookie wide receiver. This time, just a smidge of good news.
11:56We don't want to be too optimistic now. Eagles wide receiver, Makai Lemon.
12:01Wide receiver, 45, ADP 111. This is when I started getting interested again.
12:05He's now practicing for the first time in weeks, 20th overall pick in full pads for Thursday's practice and is expected to kind of be fine.
12:13So right now I am trying to buy this with two hands until I believe the price will normalize back to where
12:21it was in probably like the late 80s or the early 90s.
12:24So for me, Lemon is a smash. I'm starting to get a little bit worried.
12:29Not too much camp news about the Eagles offense is not great.
12:33Maybe that's to be expected with all the turnover going on.
12:37But I don't know. Where are you on Mr.
12:40Lemon? Well, I mean, this is a new offense just to elaborate on that.
12:44This is a brand new offense, not just because A.J.
12:48Brown is gone, but because they have Sean Mannion coming in.
12:51There's a lot that is going to look awkward.
12:54I think that's just natural for new offenses. I don't trust the offenses that are brand new that look too good out of the gate.
13:02I'm always suspicious of what they're holding back, maybe on defense or in terms of play calling or whatever.
13:09With all that said, Lemonheads rise up. Makai Lemon, somebody who I've loved coming into and after the draft, especially in Diassey.
13:16The inverse of Jordan Tyson, I was so into Makai Lemon all offseason.
13:20And then the amount of concern over the injury had me concerned because the team felt concerned.
13:26And so I was just starting to back off with Makai Lemon.
13:30I will slowly turn my ship back around. I'm not going to chase him too far up the draft board still, because
13:37again, re-injury rates scare me a little bit with a guy like Makai Lemon, but still Devontae Smith season for sure.
13:44Still investing in this offense overall. Jalen Hurt, still one of my favorite quarterbacks.
13:48Matthew Berry's run or die, Devontae Smith. I submitted Colston Loveland and I made the finals, but we didn't get across the finish line.
13:56Regardless, I am blank planting as if I had an 11th toe, it would be down.
14:01All right, next piece of all. Speaking of the Bears, if I was a better host, I would have picked up on that subway first.
14:10It's Bears running back Kyle Monunga. He was RB35, ADP 94.
14:13In like a section of the draft where I'm just completely ignoring all the running backs.
14:18I've now completely capitulated with the sheep, Jake. I'm taking all my running backs early and then taking the rest of them late.
14:26And that just kind of is what it is.
14:29I don't like the middle. Now, to the young guy, I think he now makes DeAndre Swift a little more interesting.
14:36I'll admit I was really not drafting Swift. He was right on the bubble of guys where I'm like, maybe I want to, maybe I don't.
14:44I think I was choosing other people in front of him.
14:48Now I think we have to go with Swift, right?
14:51If you're into the Bears offense and what we think we're going to get, you know, year two.
14:57Caleb Swift just didn't really pop off the page, but you got some consistency.
15:02You know, he had 14 carries per game. He did go over a thousand yards on the ground, 4.9 per attempt.
15:08My worry was more, he didn't get a lot of yards after contact.
15:13The explosive rush rate was okay, but not great.
15:16He was very good at avoiding those negative runs that we like.
15:20But if you're pretty much going to be the only game in town, there's got to be a spot for DeAndre Swift.
15:27I was like squinting with the microscope out. Britton Brown, Roshon Johnson, sound like the next guy's up.
15:33Radio people, Jake is shaking his head no. If I could speak more clearly, I'd be doing the same.
15:39I've drafted Roshon in the past and that's been a huge nothing burger.
15:43So it feels like this is good to me.
15:46I won't be fooled again. This is good to be Roshon.
15:50He's right. So talk to us about DeAndre. Yeah, I mean, DeAndre Swift was a guy that I didn't love.
15:56The only piece of the Bears offense that I loved, like you, is the tight end Colson Loveland.
16:02Everybody else gave me some pause. Even Luther Burden, who people were tripping over themselves to draft.
16:08Loveland was the focal point. DeAndre Swift, he wasn't off of my draft boards, but he was like a guy where the
16:15start of the running back dead zone kind of felt like maybe it began with DeAndre Swift.
16:20Now I look at it like DeAndre Swift versus David Montgomery was one of those questions.
16:26At least back when I was drafting, I don't know where their ADPs are right now.
16:31How would you coin flip that now? I'm sorry.
16:34How would you go Swift over Montgomery? Is that where you were in the first place?
16:39Oh, absolutely. It wasn't where I was in the first place.
16:43In the first place, it felt like those guys were a coin flip.
16:47Now it feels like, yeah, absolutely. Give me DeAndre Swift over David Montgomery.
16:51That's a little bit maybe more of my ambivalence towards Montgomery than my outright love for DeAndre Swift.
16:57But you can't argue with somebody who, again, is only fighting with Roshan Johnson.
17:02Najee Harris got picked up. The Bears aren't going to sign a veteran backup that's quality.
17:07So I'm into it. Yeah. I wonder now, you know, we're getting all the James Conner stuff again.
17:13Again, Najee, maybe we'll tackle that again, what that means for Scadabo in another episode.
17:18I'm curious to see how the market responds to it.
17:21For me, I wasn't overreacting, but again, we can do that another time.
17:25Man, as far as the Bears go, I think you're right.
17:29I'm really sorry to step on you before. I wanted to get out that kind of selfish 1v1.
17:35That's exactly the rankings move that I made, was now I have Swift in front of Montgomery, who I still think, you
17:42know, has a place this year, but he feels kind of dead zone-y to me a little bit.
17:48And then also Houston just lost Higgins. I actually forgot that note, if you want to cover that really quick.
17:54That just could kind of trickle downstream and hurt the entire Texans offense.
17:59While we have Higgins on the brain, I didn't bring him up.
18:03Besides the fact that all those bags I had packed are now gone.
18:07But you have a quick take on the Higgins injury for Houston?
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22:09been a couple of years since we've seen him.
22:12But the last time that we saw him with Houston, he was incredible.
22:16It's certainly for fantasy purposes. I don't know where he sits health-wise right now, but monitor that if you haven't drafted already.
22:24Yeah. You know, to that point in particular, I guess maybe you didn't see it.
22:29I saw it. I read it and I'm trying to digest it.
22:32That's why I didn't bring it up today. But there's a, one of the most prominent beat writers for Houston.
22:39Say what you want about the beat writers. He was very, very bold and put out an entire thread on why he thinks Tank is a no-no.
22:48You know that we may not see Tank Dell at all, right?
22:52He hasn't practiced yet. He's expecting IR. And he really went into detail because he got challenged.
22:57All beat writers don't know anything. I don't think we should be doing that.
23:02I understand they may not be experts in projections or fantasy football, but sometimes the information can be valuable.
23:08He really, really planted the flag and was very detailed.
23:11That doesn't mean he was, he's correct, but he made sure to make his point known.
23:17It was well-researched, right? And it's well thought out.
23:20So I was really kind of pumping the brakes on Tank because, you know, he's a potential breakout player in that spot.
23:27We know I have a huge target vacuum created.
23:30So we'll keep an eye on Houston. Maybe we'll bring it up also.
23:34I'm going to put that on my little whiteboard.
23:37All right. I had one more note. Old man, Keenan Allen signs with the Colts.
23:42I guess this was kind of telegraphed, right? There's some history with Steichen, I believe in the past.
23:48I don't know. People are now like, it seems like they projected this Allen signing onto Josh Downs and why you can't draft him.
23:56Before I kick it to you, I had one really interesting Keenan Allen stat that I wouldn't have guessed in a million years.
24:03Now we probably think of him as a possession type guy, which is fine.
24:08However, of the 597 offensive plays that Allen was on the field for last year, all but 13, that's 98% were three wide receiver sets.
24:16So, but where I'm going with this is people's problem was, oh no, Allen is going to eat up an X role
24:23and knock any dreams of downs in two wide receiver sets out of whack.
24:28And unless they have a different plan for him, that doesn't seem to be the case.
24:33Again, I know that's not necessarily predictive, but I think it is really worth noting.
24:38He was not a two wide receiver guy like at all.
24:41It just was not even a thing at all.
24:44So downs is starting to fall and I'm kind of buying the downs news.
24:49I'm not really buying Allen. So talk to us briefly about Keenan Allen and Josh Downs.
24:54Keenan Allen, by the way, just, uh, I think like 50 receptions or something from hitting number three overall in the history
25:01of the NFL and total career catches. Got to point that out.
25:05Cause you know, a guy like him wants that.
25:08So he's going to get that like 50 receptions.
25:11Then becomes his floor this season. The question is, can he give you more than that?
25:16Like, can he give you some sort of consistency for fantasy?
25:20I don't personally think so. The point about three wide receiver sets is very interesting to me, John.
25:26And I would also kind of beg the question though, if Alec Pierce is out because his injury, I'm not saying that he will be Alec Pierce.
25:35It seems like things will be on track for him to play, but if something happens with that injury and there's a
25:42setback, is it Josh Downs and Keenan Allen and two wide receiver sets?
25:46Is it a big emphasis? And it does Tyler Warren just get everything at that point.
25:51Um, one thing I do want to say though, people have been knocking Tyler Warren as well because of this signing.
25:58Knocking him down a little bit. I'm not, I still love Tyler Warren.
26:03I don't see a world where he eats into something that Tyler Warren was going to get.
26:08Warren was playing with Michael Pittman last year and healthy Alec Pierce.
26:12So I don't think that this necessarily is worse for him than that.
26:16Um, but yeah, I'm not drafting Keenan too heavily.
26:19I, maybe in the last couple of rounds, if he's there, I'll dabble.
26:24Yeah, I think that's fair. I think the ceiling is very low and I do, you know, agree kind of archetypically.
26:30It probably doesn't fit because there is just a lot of redundancy.
26:34Now we think of Warren wins close to the line.
26:38Josh Downs wins close to the line. They bring in Keenan Allen to win close to the line.
26:43And to me, this seems very telegraphed in he's going to run a hook route one yard beyond the sticks on third downs.
26:51Like to me, that feels like exactly what it's going to be.
26:55I don't think he's going to stretch the field.
26:58I don't think they're going to get very creative with him.
27:01I think he's going to come out to win in a tight spot against somebody he's probably bigger than, and he's still
27:09got good hands and knows how to win and kind of tight spaces.
27:13So to me, it's low ceiling. Maybe it'll even boost the entire offense.
27:17All right. That was pretty cool. That was the news and notes, kind of a mouthful or two right there.
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31:04All right, and we're back. Jake, it was funny.
31:07You asked me, I don't know what they're called, perfecting players or draft dilemmas, so that's what I wrote down.
31:14That's what we're covering. Love it. I used to go with them like chin scratchers.
31:19Sometimes when I cover baseball, I sort of call a game with chin scratcher.
31:23After a few, we've heard enough out of me.
31:26We're alliterative. You want to shoot a bottle first.
31:29In this way, we are alliterative on this podcast.
31:32Yeah, yeah, yeah. We alliterate with the best of them.
31:35Yeah, you know, I actually took a New York Times writing class.
31:39They warned me about that, not to be too elitative.
31:43So I've been trying to, I've been actually pulling back on my, you know, Peter Piper pickled pepper references.
31:49All right, I can't believe I got that one out live on air.
31:53All right, talk to us about Jalen Waddle and why you're confused because he's back practicing and I'm not so confused.
32:00Talk to us. Well, I hope that you can unconfuse me, John, because I do think the point of these guys that
32:07we're talking about, you and I, we have a lot of very strong takes, particularly about specific players.
32:13These are not those players where I fall on one side of the fence or the other.
32:19If this was the hokey pokey, John, my hand would not be in, nor would it be out.
32:24It, I guess would be shaking all about as the song goes.
32:28But with Jalen Waddle, if you can convince me that where he's going right now in full PPR ADP, which is he's the 19th receiver off the board.
32:38He's 43rd overall. So he's going in the fourth round.
32:41If you can convince me that without a doubt, Jalen Waddle is the true wide receiver one for the Broncos.
32:47I will cave and I will draft him. But the fact that I see Cortland Sutton sitting all the way down at
32:55wide receiver 38, 99th overall makes this a little tougher for me to wrap my head around.
33:00It's a big, big gap. And Cortland Sutton is coming off a thousand yards, seven touchdowns last year.
33:06He has rapport with Bo Nix. Waddle's new to the offense.
33:10Waddle hasn't had a thousand yard season since 2023.
33:13I've been saying that ideally at the spot where Waddle is in my drafts, I want to get two of Zay Flowers,
33:20Emeka Ibuka, and Garrett Wilson through those rounds. That's what I would love.
33:24But if they're not there, and our guy Colson Loveland is also gone around this time, then I look at Waddle and
33:31I think, huh, he could reach the heights of his early career.
33:35He started off, he was wide receiver 13, wide receiver 8, and full PPR those first couple of seasons.
33:41And if Bo Nix throws the ball 600 times again, like he did last year, then him and Sutton could eat.
33:48As long as the other wide receivers don't get into the mix too much.
33:53We've got a Troy Franklin. We've got a Pat Bryant.
33:56We've got all these guys that Sean Payton just really, really wants to be a thing still.
34:02But if Nix coming off that ankle injury, you know, won't take off as much running as he did last year, then
34:09I see Waddle being able to produce based on his ADP.
34:12But it's, I don't know, John, it's scary. Get the fear out of me.
34:17What am I missing? Oh man, I don't know if I'm tasked with declaring him the clear number one.
34:23I don't know if that's the case. I think the hope is, as you mentioned, the pie is big enough for more than one person.
34:31Now, I do think he should be in the lead for volume.
34:35I think Sutton has more of a clearly defined role.
34:39He'll be looked upon to win outside, something he's very good at.
34:43Okay, so you mentioned a pass volume. What I think would be all the draft capital giving up, first of all, right?
34:50So Payton, very clear. He's been talking about this for years, right?
34:54He loved these kind of joker players, these underneath kind of versatile weapons that he can move all around the formation.
35:01The Broncos gave up a first rounder, a third, and a fourth.
35:04That's a 30, a 94, and a 130. That's a lot of draft capital.
35:09True. And we've seen production. Last year, it was good, not great, but it was still good.
35:15Three top 10 finishes, one top five finish. The underpinning stuff that we love so oh very much was very, very strong.
35:22He scored a half of a fantasy point per route, which is all you could ask for, right?
35:28It's an ace right there. 25% target per route, two and a quarter yards per route, and under nine routes per first
35:35down are all really kind of elite numbers. I think we know that he could win out of the slot, but that's really not all that he did.
35:44And he's good against man and zone. He had very good success rates against both, at least 14.5% success rate against both
35:51man end zone, but 22% of his plays went for 20 yards, and 18% of his targets were downfield targets.
35:58So I think that's a little bit, and not that you said it, but I'm speaking more to the general public, that he's just an underneath guy.
36:07He's kind of slotty, and like a slot merchant is kind of the word now.
36:12And I don't know if that's the case. You know, Denver, again, was top five in plays run, and they were sixth in dropbacks per game.
36:20So there could be a lot of volume with Waddle.
36:23It's just a versatile weapon, really, the guy looked upon to not just move the chains, but maybe win in post routes,
36:31intermediate routes, with Sutton kind of doing the clear out thing.
36:34I think all of your points are really strong.
36:37I think we would need Waddle to take a step up.
36:41The only pushback I would have is the pricing there between people having doubts like yourself and the injury.
36:47He's firmly at the end of that entire tier.
36:50He's really further back near Loveland than anywhere near Ed Bucca or Garrett Wilson or any of those guys.
36:56Zay Flowers now more at the beginning of the third.
36:59Waddle is making him play the middle of the fourth.
37:03So that's where I think I have him, is at the very end of that wide receiver tier, if I prioritize running
37:10backs, he could still be your wide receiver two or three, where I think that's a perfect pick.
37:16I am taking those other names that you mentioned before him, though.
37:20I think that's a really good call out. My first chin scratcher is a bit less exciting, but it's a player that
37:27I was on that I've kind of gotten away from.
37:30And I think it's important for us as analysts to, one, be clear about that, but to pull the curtain.
37:37It's Rashad White. I thought he was the best runner and pass catcher.
37:41And now I'm not so sure. The drumbeat for Bill Krosky-Meritt is really picking up.
37:46And if he's taken the step forward in pass blocking, and that's been the word because that was the hangup, if that's
37:53been the case, you could see Rashad White getting supplanted.
37:56And if he's just a third down guy, third and long guy, that might not be great.
38:02And JCM might be back to roster in Washington.
38:05I'm kind of getting away from Rashad White. Do you have a strong take on Washington at all?
38:11Well, it's very tough this year. You kind of need, I'm not saying you have to have a take on Washington, but
38:18those middle to late around backs, there's going to be a hit somewhere and we got to try and find it.
38:25Yeah. And it's nice that they're all being drafted so late.
38:28You're not the risk of going, I'm going to grab one of these guys is barely a risk because if they don't
38:36pan out, if you grab the wrong one, or if there's not a right one to have in this backfield, because they all split too much.
38:44So what? You spent a 10th round pick or 11th round pick or whatever these guys are going at right now.
38:51It's too late to really care about, but it's much easier to get a win out of these messy backfields.
38:57So if you want to plant on Ja'Cory Krosky Merritt, that's fine.
39:01If you want to plant still on Rashad White, because you think he is still the best pass catcher, they will still
39:09utilize him a lot as a dump off machine.
39:12I don't know that that's true, but if that's your thought, go for him.
39:16I don't have a strong enough opinion on Rashad White to be like, I'm not clicking him.
39:22But if you are a zero RB or a do the opposite as fans of this show know, then, you know, go
39:29try Rashad White and see if he'll get six targets a game.
39:33Yeah, I hate to leave people without an option where I've gotten away from White and I'm still not sold on JCM.
39:40I've pushed Jordan Mason into that spot. He's very similarly priced.
39:44I think, you know, he's the more explosive back in an offense where looking again to take a pretty big step forward.
39:51This is just the JJ McCarthy sunk the entire organization into like the ninth circle of Dante's hell and that any kind
39:58of return to even average or below average that rising tide should lift all ships.
40:03So I've been going with Mason. Again, at the price, you don't need to be that confident like you mentioned, but that could be a hit.
40:11But yeah, I'm not really drafting White right now and he's not really falling.
40:16So if my doubt is growing and his price isn't changing, I find I getting away from it.
40:22All right. Your second player is another guy. This is interesting because this is a player, one of the very few players
40:29I've come around to the bullish side on. Talk to us about DJ Moore.
40:34Well, my question all off season after DJ Moore got signed was, are we going to get Stefan Diggs in Buffalo or
40:41are we going to get something closer to Amari Cooper in Buffalo, which was a complete unfettered disaster?
40:47Now, obviously big asterisk, Amari Cooper resigned halfway through the season.
40:50That's not the exact same situation as DJ Moore, obviously.
40:54But I still don't know which side of that spectrum I want to air on with DJ Moore because look, I don't
41:01buy into the whole DJ Moore gave up on the Bears last season narrative.
41:05I don't buy into that, but I do think that there was something very off because DJ Moore had just as many
41:13games with fewer than 20 yards as he did games of 50 yards or more.
41:18There was a game where this man got four targets and zero yards.
41:22There was another game where he got three targets and had negative four yards.
41:26As much as I want to blame Caleb Williams for all of this because of his god awful accuracy, or at least
41:34the accuracy during the regular boring old throws. I think it was on both of them.
41:39I think it was also on DJ Moore. So will Josh Allen be able to completely wipe all that away?
41:45Will he even treat DJ Moore as the bona fide wide receiver one, which is what he did with Diggs?
41:52And even if he does, will that be alone enough to get DJ Moore a top 24 finish if the offense stays
41:59as run heavy as it's been during Joe Brady's tenure when he was offensive coordinator?
42:04Now, of course, he's the head coach. But Buffalo has been seventh from the bottom of the league in pass play percentage
42:11over the last three years with Joe Brady in house.
42:14So the good news is that unlike Waddle, you're still getting more, you know, later.
42:19I think like a round and a half later as of right now.
42:24So he's, again, not quite as risky. But on the other hand, you do have to draft DJ Moore over guys like Jamison Williams and Christian Watson.
42:32And you have to pass up cheat code quarterbacks like Jane Daniels and Jalen Hurts.
42:37And I don't know that I really want to do that, John.
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45:58You only take flack when you're over the target.
46:01Gosh, yeah, it's not saying my pushback to you because I think I was fully in line with you.
46:07I was not drafting more at all. And not to say I was overly swayed by a preseason game.
46:13I don't really care about that. It was something that was mentioned on a Bills broadcast that one of my favorite analysts brought up.
46:21And it was, he was talking about styles make fights, right?
46:25That kind of famous boxing adage. And one, I think it's, you know, time-tested for a reason.
46:30But it was that Moore struggled with the Bears because that offense is very much time-oriented.
46:36Everything is timing, timing, timing. Moore is more of a freestyle kind of player.
46:40And that would mesh pretty well with Josh Allen's hair on fire hero ball, breaking down defenders, throwing it off your back
46:47foot with three people hanging on you, but still managing to throw a dot, you know, 40 yards downfield right on the numbers.
46:55And then we kind of saw that in the preseason game.
46:59I was like, oh, man, this is exactly what I was being warned about when I feed him.
47:04I'm on the fence. My biggest issue, even if I believe all that, of the names that you mentioned, I'm really struggling to take him over.
47:13Again, Watson, you mentioned Williams. I like Mike Evans if he could defeat the substation.
47:18This is all part of the early running back discussion.
47:21There's so many great receivers in the 50s and the 60s.
47:25Right before we're even thinking about quarterbacks yet. At that point, none of the quarterbacks have gone off the board.
47:31We're still locked in on the skill position, guys.
47:34So I'm trying to open up my horizons to more.
47:37And I think that's how it succeeds. So I've worked him in a little bit.
47:42But, yeah, I'm still struggling with the 1v1. But at the very least, where it was a player that I was telling
47:50myself, dusty, maybe washed, could be a zero, is now he's at least, Jake, moved into the bin of players that, though
47:57I'm fading, I'm worried they could burn me. Would you agree with the last part?
48:02Oh, I'm always worried these guys that I fade are going to burn me.
48:06And that's why it's a question instead of an outright, like, stay away from this guy.
48:12Because I have those players where I do say, stay away.
48:15But if you're right, if this is just a fighting style change that reinvigorates him, you know, I guess he'd be going
48:22from, I don't know what, Ali to Tyson. I hate to compare Caleb Williams to anybody of that height and stature.
48:29But if that is the change that re-unlocks him, then, yeah, I'm going to feel like a dummy if I pass him up.
48:37Yeah, more also to that, we might as well get one more shovel full of dirt for Caleb.
48:43And it was very few wide receivers had more unrealized air yards than Moore last year.
48:48Very few wide receivers had a higher uncatchable or, like, off-target, you know, rate when targeted than Moore.
48:54So, not to make excuses for him, but maybe there is a little juice left and maybe the stylistics do work.
49:01So, I'm just ready for him. And you made it, put it perfect, I should say, that he does need to finish as a wide receiver two.
49:09He's going off the board as a wide receiver 25.
49:13You know, wide receivers are going early. So, again, the 1v1s are really difficult.
49:17All right, last but certainly not least, El Rey.
49:20It's the king, Derrick Henry, who, if you ever find me sleeping under the overpass, it's because I just can't stop beating Derrick Henry.
49:28I wrote down two words, father time. Yeah, eventually, right?
49:31I just refuse to give in. Well, I guess at this point I refuse to give in, period.
49:37But I refuse to give in to a world where more NFL carries make you healthier, right?
49:43That is not a universe or a plane of reality that I exist in.
49:47So, I just think I'd always rather be off one year early than hanging on one year too late because the price is so high.
49:56That said, running back is very tough to find, especially if you have the three or the four.
50:01Henry may be the last choice. And if you don't like Hall because he's hurt and you don't like Jeremiah Love because
50:09he's banged up, now you're a zero RB guy you might not have wanted to be.
50:14So, I don't know. Can you convince me to take Henry?
50:17I shouldn't mean convincing. It's just all I have is the age.
50:21He's like the best player ever. But should I just be drafting and take my medicine?
50:27I mean, I don't know, John. The only argument that I have against it, because you can't ignore it, you can't ignore the age.
50:35But the only argument that I have is that we've been doubting Derrick Henry because of his age for what, three years, four years?
50:42I don't know. It felt like as soon as he turned 29.
50:46Yeah, maybe more. Yeah, we're like, well, this guy can't keep this up.
50:51It's the Tom Brady argument, but for running backs.
50:53Like, well, he can't keep doing it and doing it at a high level.
50:58It just doesn't make sense. But sometimes a guy just takes the Captain America super serum and you just have to ride that rail.
51:06You know, you just have to latch on to the jersey and hope that he pulls you across to another top six
51:13running back finish, which, I mean, it's possible. Yeah, I mean, I guess.
51:17I've been telling myself the story that we're not even getting enough of a discount.
51:22Okay, so put yourself in a, you know, plane of the multiverse where Derrick Henry is only 28 instead of 32 and a half or whatever he is.
51:31Done. Isn't that where he'd go? I think he still goes in the same spot because he doesn't catch the ball at all.
51:39And now this is definitely the part I'm off of.
51:42If people are telling me he's superhuman, I'm more willing to believe he's superhuman than he's going to catch, you know, 50 balls or something this year.
51:51I just don't think that's in the cards. I think I don't like to spend the second round pick on a running
51:58back that can get game scripted out completely. And we've seen this happen.
52:03This is not a would not be a new thing.
52:06So put him together. What do you got? Bibbidi-bobbidi-boop is me kind of feeding Derrick Henry again against all my better judgments.
52:13And, you know, I love the spreadsheet. Everything in the spreadsheet is screaming.
52:17This guy is still as good or better, right, than almost anyone.
52:21He had 3.6 yards after contact per attempt, 5.2 per attempt.
52:25He still had a 10% explosive rush rate. And he faced eight-man boxes almost 52% of the time.
52:31He was awesome. He gets all the goal line stuff, right?
52:34Because Lamar, as much as he runs, Lamar's running touchdowns come from like 35 yards out.
52:40They don't come from near the goal line. You give it to old reliable.
52:44If anyone was going to score 20 touchdowns, right, he's on the shortest list of players to do it.
52:50And then I'm still having trouble getting there. So what about yourself?
52:54Maybe I missed it. Where are you? Are you clicking the button for Henry?
52:59Are you past that? I was just doing a box draft with Chris Harris the other day, actually.
53:05And this came up. And it was Derrick Henry versus Brees Hall at the, I think it was the end of the
53:12third round, I want to say, is where it was.
53:15And yeah, I was fine with it. Because again, I just feel like we can make the cognitive good statistical arguments for this.
53:23But Derrick Henry just keeps punches, punching us, punching us in the face over it.
53:28So I just, I'm tired of getting punched in the face, John.
53:32And I just want to cower to Derrick Henry and his awesome talent.
53:36And yeah, he doesn't catch passes. He hasn't caught passes and yet he's continued to shine as a fantasy asset more often than not.
53:44So it's just like, how many times do you roll the dice?
53:48And when does it finally come up snake eyes?
53:51I guess if it does for me this time, so be it.
53:54I'll deal with it. But I do think you used to have to draft Derrick Henry, at least at like the middle of the second round.
54:03So it is a little bit of a discount.
54:06Yeah. Also, well, speaking of discount, you're talking end of third.
54:10My assumption had been the rooms I've been in, which is end of second.
54:14That's a pretty big difference. Now I've been drafting running backs early.
54:18So if I'm near the wheel, maybe I, I don't know if I could pass him as my RB three.
54:25I think I'd have to take him. I think Derrick Henry end of the third is a smash pack.
54:31If he's your flex play, I think that's a total smash.
54:34So for me, yeah, it's a, it's a price dependent thing.
54:38I would have taken Hall before Henry for the pass catching stuff, though.
54:42I understand the touchdown equity might totally make that a wash, but yet I'm over here doing the same thing over and
54:49over yet looking for a different result. I think they have a word for that, Jake.
54:55It's insanity. Well, this is easily the fastest half an hour by week.
54:59Thank you so much, Jake, for your time, man.
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