0:00Things have been weird in San Francisco for a long time.
0:04It's their vibe, and they like it that way.
0:06Honestly, it's helped create a ton of great music, art, and some really good football too.
0:12Things got weird on the field last season for San Francisco.
0:15They lost a ton of top talent to injury, and they still made magic to rack up 12 wins.
0:21Third and goal, McCaffrey. Touchdown! Another one! One on the ground and one through the air.
0:272026 feels like it could be the last chance to keep a lot of this band together for one more big show.
0:34So surely things were peaceful this offseason as the Niners locked in for that elusive run at the title.
0:40Right? Right? It's day 30 of the Bootleg Summer Series, and we're just going to try and get through this one without pulling both hamstrings.
0:48Welcome to the Bootleg Football Podcast. I'm Brett Coleman.
0:51That's EJ Snyder. It's been a very eventful summer in the Bay Area.
0:55EJ, are you ready to talk about literally anything else than what's going on there?
1:00Lots of things besides all the things. Yes, you know, if you're a follower of Bootleg, you know that the Summer Series
1:07is talking about the things the team largely has done on the field to address the things that didn't go well last
1:14year that kept them from being, you know, a finalist for the big trophy.
1:19And those are the things we're going to focus on.
1:22Everybody else is focusing on lots of other things.
1:25We acknowledge that those things exist and that they can be a distraction to a team.
1:30But come the middle of October, this team is going to be lining up on the football field with the guys they
1:37have healthy, trying to win games, trying to win a very competitive division.
1:41That's what we're going to focus on today. I would say they're going to have a bigger problem if we get to
1:48October and they're still 29th in pressure rate compared to the problems that seemingly exist right now.
1:54So if I was them, that's what I would try to fix because this team did have real problems, like really, really significant problems.
2:02And we will get into those. But I think we should also take some time to celebrate the fact that despite some
2:09real, like substantial flaws with this team, still managed to win 12 games, still managed to be a very productive offense, despite
2:16having two quarterbacks taking significant snaps throughout the year.
2:19You know, you get banged up at receiver. Kittle goes out.
2:22You know, you're down to what LB five and LB six by the end of the year.
2:28You know, most of your defensive line gets injured, still winning 12 games with all that is like that deserves to be
2:35celebrated right off the top because I don't know how many staffs in the NFL could have pulled that off.
2:41My answer would be zero. And I know that's going to piss off a lot of people in the division that think we give Kyle too much credit.
2:51I'm going to give him all his flowers for 2025 overall rank in the division 12 and five.
2:56Same as the Rams. Now, if you are a longtime bootleg listener, you know how we speak about McVay and the Rams from last season.
3:04One of the probably two most powerful teams in the NFL.
3:08When I look at the Niners and what happened to them last year in my head before going back to the record
3:15books, I was like, that's a nine win team, 10 win team.
3:19Great job by the staff. Shouldn't have even been in double digits.
3:23They won. They won 12 games. They won 12 games.
3:26The same as the Rams. What are we doing here with the number of games missed due to injury, which was among
3:33the highest in the league last year? Yes, they come in third in the division, but they came in third to the
3:40Super Bowl champion and the team that probably would have been the Super Bowl champion.
3:45Had they beat the Seahawks? That's I'm not going to say it's fine.
3:49They don't think it's fine. They've been working to write that since it happened.
3:54But 12 and 5 with what went on in the Bay Area midseason on this podcast, you and I, after Fred Warner went down, said, well, that's nice.
4:03It's over. They're done. Like, whatever. And then a funny thing happened over the next month.
4:08It wasn't over. And Robert Sala coached his ass off and made all these backup linebackers perform in the aggregate almost the
4:15same, which is a banana statement, just to say.
4:18So home record of 5-3. They were absolute road warriors.
4:217-2 on the road. They were strong down the stretch.
4:25The strongest, actually, in their division at 4-1. Incredible coaching job.
4:2812 wins is wild for the 2025 49ers. Now, I will say some slight caveats here.
4:33Nine of those wins were the Saints, the Falcons, the Cardinals twice, the Giants, the Panthers, the Browns, the Titans, and the
4:41late season Colts after Daniel Jones and Sauce got injured.
4:44So, nine wins against pretty bad competition, if we're being honest.
4:47But you can only play who's on your schedule, and I think it is a credit to them that they did take care of business against inferior opponents.
4:56And when you add in that they also had a couple, like, to me, season-defining wins, maybe even three season-defining wins if
5:04you count the Bears game, even though the defense was awful in that game.
5:08But, hey, still won it. But if you count the Bears game, then the two early season wins over Seattle when everybody was healthy.
5:16That was week one. So, everybody was healthy, beat the eventual Super Bowl champions, showed what they could do.
5:22And then probably about a month later, that was when they beat the Rams.
5:27Now, Bosa was injured in that one, but they had everybody else.
5:30So, when this team had all of their guys, they were still in the weight class of what most people consider to
5:38be the two best teams, which is Seattle and L.A.
5:41And they beat both of them. So, you know, with this team coming back healthy this year, ish.
5:47Ish. Being loose with the definition of healthy here, but it's better than it was in November.
5:52I'll say that. You know, I think it's fair to put this team in that tier because when they have all their guys, they're extraordinarily hard to beat.
6:01And even when they don't have all their guys, they're still beating all of the average to below average teams in the league.
6:09Yeah, they didn't get to make the schedule. They also didn't get to lay out who they were going to have on the field to beat those folks.
6:18Again, you played with a backup quarterback for a bunch of the season.
6:22Most teams, if you go to the backup quarterback, you're thinking 30% to 40% wins would be great.
6:28They exceeded that. And so, given the circumstances that they dealt with, again, they don't choose their schedule or their injuries.
6:34They played them as they got them, and they won way more than they lost.
6:39Tremendous job. We'll talk about how they did that with the bootleg power score.
6:44For that, we used six numbers. Passing, efficiency, using EPA per play.
6:48Rushing, same thing. Defense against the pass and the rush.
6:51Points scored and points allowed. We assign their league rank.
6:54Add them up. Divide by six. That gives us a raw score.
6:58We stack all the raw scores, and that puts them in the realm of their peers.
7:03How powerful were they compared to other teams? 49ers is interesting.
7:07Passing EPA per play. Sixth elite. Almost a top five passing offense in the NFL.
7:12Solidly within the top ten, even with a ton of backup quarterback play.
7:16Rushing EPA per play. Tied for 21st. I'll just skip to the points differential at the end.
7:21They were plus 66. Plus 66 was the ninth best point differential in the NFL.
7:26It proves what you can do with an elite passing game.
7:30Sixth and an average 21st rushing game. Passing is still the thing that's going to get you explosives for the most part in the NFL.
7:38And still the thing that's going to put points on the board.
7:42Niners put points on the board, and it was largely due to that passing attack.
7:47Passing EPA per play allowed in terms of defense was not great.
7:51Again, you're going to talk about pass rush quite a bit.
7:54They were 25th. Rushing EPA per play allowed. Tied for 20th.
7:58With some of the injuries you suffered, you could see that.
8:01And you could also figure that they would have been a few, maybe three to four spots higher had that not happened.
8:08And a middle-of-the-pack rushing defense is fine in this particular category.
8:12Points scored. They scored 437 points. That was good for 10th.
8:15Points allowed. They allowed 371. That was good enough for 13th.
8:19So very good scoring team. Very good scoring defense.
8:22Again, points differential plus 66. If you add up those numbers, 6, 21, 25, 20, 10, and 13, divide by 6, you get a raw score of 15.83.
8:31That puts them 17th overall. So I would say, based on that, just like we said at the top of the episode,
8:38San Francisco outplayed the strength of their team. They were better than the sum of their parts.
8:44The 12-5 team is not middle of the road in the NFL.
8:47So their record was better than their power score suggests.
8:51This is another one of the teams, and we've had a few of these this offseason, where the total points scored and allowed.
8:58We probably should replace it with points per drive, because those numbers were both deflated and inflated at the same time, offensively and defensively.
9:06In terms of points allowed, they were not the 13th best defense in the NFL in terms of keeping people out of
9:13the paint, but they were excellent at just limiting possessions.
9:16And if you're looking at scoring offense, they were not the 10th best team in terms of scoring.
9:22They were actually much higher than that. If you're looking at scoring drive percentage, so the percentage of their possessions that they
9:29are scoring, they were third best across the NFL for the entire year.
9:33And when Purdy got back in week 11, like week 11 on, they were number one, like by a lot.
9:40They were 55%, which is absurd. The only other team that beat that for any sort of similar stretch of time was
9:47the early season Colts in the first eight weeks of the season, where they were at 61%, which again was historic.
9:54Like the best I had ever seen over that large of a sample size.
9:58And the Niners in the back half of the year were like competitive with that.
10:03That is how good Brock Purdy in this passing game was in the back half.
10:08It's a big reason why their EPA per play ended up at six.
10:12It's just because of that, what, eight, eight ish game stretch.
10:16So I think using efficiency per drive is probably a better representation of what this team was.
10:21And I look at it as a much better executed version of what the Packers and the Panthers were going for.
10:28If you've listened to this entire series, when we talked about the Packers, we talked about how they intentionally limited possessions for
10:35each team because they were going to try to win on efficiency per possession rather than like raw totals.
10:41And if you listen to the Panthers, it was a similar kind of thing where they tried to limit possessions because they
10:48didn't think they could compete like blow for blow.
10:51And so they tried to shrink the game, generate a turnover, give themselves one extra bite at the apple and try to win on the margins there.
11:00You know, the Panthers ended up with eight wins.
11:03I think the Packers ended up with nine, maybe 10, largely because they fell apart once Micah got injured.
11:09Whereas the Niners executed this to perfection and ended up with 12 because they were a better offense efficiency wise than both
11:16the Panthers and the Packers like significantly better. And their defense wasn't actually good at pretty much anything.
11:22Quite frankly, their defensive line was so banged up and the linebackers were so banged up that they weren't like great.
11:29But what they could do was just die slow.
11:32Right. That was the model for this team. Die slow, kill fast.
11:36If you do that enough, you're probably going to win.
11:39And they won. And so if you're looking at like plays per defensive drive, they were very high in that.
11:45Again, six and a half plays per defensive drive tied right there with the Panthers.
11:50They were 17th in terms of points per play allowed.
11:54So they were just average enough with just enough plays where if they can force you into getting a couple threes and
12:01Brock Purdy's getting a sevens, you're probably going to run out of time before you get an opportunity to make up that gap.
12:08That was literally just how they won the game.
12:11Trade threes for sevens and just wait for the clock to run out.
12:15And they they were really, really exceptional at that as a team.
12:19I think the coaches understood that motto. And, you know, I think there was a ceiling to that.
12:25Right. You run into the true juggernauts in the playoffs like eventually you're going to get out talented.
12:31But for everybody short of the elite tier of team, that's a really hard style to contend with, especially with Brock Purdy playing the way that he was.
12:40One quick break, then we'll get right back to it.
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13:56And with that, let's get back to it. We talk about bend but don't break.
14:01And this defense was bend, bend, bend, bend. Just take as long as you possibly can to bend.
14:07And if we give you three at the end of it, we'll take that because the likelihood is we're going to get
14:14at least three, but we might get seven. So we're not falling behind.
14:18We're going to pull even at worst and at best.
14:22Once we get Brock back, we're probably going to double you up and then we're going to do it again.
14:28And then we're going to do it again. And then we're going to do it again.
14:33So if you have 12 and 13 play drives and you end up getting a field goal out of that, we did our job.
14:41We've won. And yeah, then you run into the superpowers where they can have a five play drive and get seven and
14:48you have to go back and try and match.
14:51And you might run out of gas. The 49ers did.
14:54But throughout most of the regular season, even after big injuries on the defense, we talk about Warner, we talk about Bosa.
15:02These are stars. The defense was still able to hold that line defensively and just bend, bend, bend, bend, bend, and maybe give up three.
15:10Sometimes give up zero force upon. But again, if they gave up three, they could be very secure going back to the sideline that they did their job.
15:19And the offense was going to play complimentary football, support them, and even maybe give them more margin to work with the next time.
15:26They just had that umbrella built over the top that was so hard to crack, right?
15:3282% zone rate is just short of Houston in terms of zone rate.
15:36And Houston played a shit ton of zone. Remember, the leader in terms of zone coverage percentage across the NFL was the Chargers last year at 90.
15:45So they weren't that far off the league leader in terms of zone coverage percentage.
15:49And the vast majority of that was just starting out in two high and then rotating down to cover three.
15:56They played the second most snaps in the NFL, starting out in a two high look and then rotating down into one high.
16:03Predominantly cover three. They were second in terms of cover three usage in the NFL.
16:08And they just did it over and over and over again.
16:12You didn't know if it was going to be three weak or three strong.
16:16So they would keep you guessing on which way it was rotating.
16:20But other than that, you kind of knew what they were going to do.
16:25And their only goal was just don't bust the coverage, right?
16:28Don't give up an explosive if we can afford not to give up an explosive rally tackle.
16:34You know, if they take seven minutes to score on us, that's fine.
16:38Like they were OK with that. But they were just going to play simple structures and play them well with a bunch
16:45of backups and just kind of nickel and dime you to death.
16:49And it was it was a phenomenal game plan.
16:52It was a big reason why Robert Sala got hired for his his second head coaching stint this offseason is because very
16:59few DCs, I think, would have had the discipline to do what he did with that many backups and have it be effective.
17:06Yeah, it's I think an honest admission. And that's what you want from coaches in the best possible case is what are we really?
17:14What can we do? And you hear us say it over and over again.
17:19If you can't play man, don't play man. If you know, if you're not getting anything from Blitzen, you should come up
17:26with another way to get that pressure. And it is a very narrow line to walk.
17:31You can fall off either side of that really quickly.
17:34And he held his guys together. Big credit to him and said, we can play this style with what we have.
17:41And that's a very honest assessment of talent, where you are as a team, how ready you are, you know, your schedule, everything else.
17:49And the best coaches are able to do that.
17:52It was a tremendous job by him. And I agree with you that without that, he probably doesn't get over the top
17:59in this coaching cycle to get his second head coaching gig.
18:02But because of it, everybody, I think, around the league looked at that job and said, whew, that's okay.
18:09Not a lot of coaches could have pulled that off.
18:12Nice job. Especially with how bad that defensive line was.
18:15And I get it. They lost Bosa in week two.
18:18And even you and I this time last year, when we were talking about the defensive line they assembled, which we liked
18:25a lot on paper, it was very much, okay, they drafted, you know, Mikel, great run stopper.
18:31Alfred Collins, great run stopper. CJ West, great run stopper.
18:34Their pass rusher is Nick Bosa. If they were going to get pass rush from anything, it was going to be Nick Bosa.
18:42And then Nick Bosa got hurt like September 21st.
18:44A lot of football being played after September 21st.
18:47So they really had no pass rush to speak of after Bosa got injured.
18:52That's why they were 29th in pressure rate. They didn't really blitz a lot because they're like, well, that's probably not going
18:59to solve our problems because our whole thing is like not leaving space on the back end.
19:05So we're just going to kind of accept that that we're not going to get pressure and we're going to try to
19:12force a throw underneath and rally and tackle. But we're not going to give you a bunch of space to work with and allow yards after catch.
19:20It was really their only option defensively was just to kind of eat it.
19:25Unfortunately, I do want to bring this up. You and I were really high on Alfred Collins and CJ West.
19:31They did not play well and we didn't expect them to come out and be great pass rushers.
19:37They were abysmal pass rushers. And the surprising part about it, they weren't much better against the run.
19:43I don't really know what happened there because if you watched Alfred Collins at Texas, like very few defensive tackles, really very
19:50few defensive players in his class had that kind of highlight tape against the run.
19:55And yet he was getting blown off the ball as a rookie.
19:59CJ West, same thing. He was like the anchor of a really tough Indiana defense, got to the NFL, was getting blown off the ball.
20:07And I understand Collins. It's unfair to judge him so far this offseason because he's coming off a shoulder surgery.
20:13But even when they were healthy during the year last year, they just didn't play well.
20:19And I had hoped that they could get something out of all the investments they've made on the defensive line.
20:25They got basically nothing. And that was a big reason why they traded for Osa in the first place is because they
20:32saw what the two young guys did last year.
20:35And like, we can't go through that again. We barely survived it in 2025.
20:40We're not going to survive it in 2026. I really hope they step it up this year because those two guys were not what we saw in college.
20:49Very far from it. No. No. And it's, we talk about the concept all the time on this show that progression is not linear.
20:57And we had hoped that they would both continue to take positive steps from the tape that they had in college that we really liked.
21:05Progress was not linear. Alfred Collins, and I've had this discussion with other folks that watch defensive line around the NFL.
21:11You know, I was talking with John Leder and John Oning about this.
21:16And I was like, man, Alfred Collins is a hard watch.
21:19And he was one of my five defensive gems, I'm pretty sure.
21:23And I was betting on progression. And he not only didn't progress, he didn't even hold neutral.
21:29He regressed. And there have been some reps early this year that haven't looked really good either.
21:34So, again, he's getting healthy. Neat. But, yeah, you need them to step up.
21:39And, unfortunately, the whole thing kind of reminds me of Kansas City.
21:42Right? It's not that we haven't invested. We keep getting guys on the defensive line.
21:47But it's been Chris Jones against the world for, oh, a long time now.
21:52Because most of those guys haven't panned out. And it's the same with San Francisco.
21:57With Bosa against the world. But Bosa got hurt.
22:00You can imagine if Chris Jones got hurt in September and didn't play the rest of the year.
22:05What the Chiefs' defensive line would look like. And that's kind of what San Francisco's defensive line looked like.
22:12Was a bunch of guys, young guys, that we hoped would take steps.
22:16That didn't, not only did they not take steps as pass rushers, they regressed as run defenders.
22:21And at that point, what do you do? Like, you don't have five other guys to rotate in like you do in college.
22:29You've got a 53-man roster. These guys you've invested in, and really none of them played well.
22:34You hope that at least one of them can kind of hold the line.
22:39And that was not the case for San Francisco.
22:42There's just been a long string of defensive tackles brought into this franchise.
22:46Whether through trade, free agency, draft. Like, they've been trying to replace DeForest Buckner for how many years at this point?
22:53They haven't been able to do it. And I think the Osa trade, not waving the white flag, but just acknowledging of like, we got to get something.
23:02We just have to get something. We'll throw 20 million at him, try to fix the problem.
23:07But it's been the ghost of this, that this franchise has been running from for a long time is replacing Buckner.
23:14Hell, they thought they did it with Ken Law.
23:17Didn't work out. Yep. You know, is what it is.
23:20Weirdly though, not even weirdly, interestingly, I do want to give praise to the Niners offensive line, which played better last year
23:27than they have, I would say, in the entire Brock Purdy era.
23:31Yeah, two or three years before that. Yeah. McKivitt's had a career year.
23:35Pune looked good. Like, they would both, when they gave up pressure, they gave up pressure quickly.
23:41But the rate of them giving up quick pressures was not as high as what we had seen in the past.
23:48It was more so, okay, like, a couple times a game they would get got, but it wasn't every third drive, you
23:55know, when McKivitt's pressure is like ruining it. Right?
23:58He was more consistent. Pune was more consistent. The entire offensive line, they were 10th best in pressure rate allowed, which, when's
24:05the last time the Niners offensive line was a top 10 pass blocking unit?
24:09It's been a while, right? But even more interestingly, because I know people will be like, well, yeah, Mack Jones threw the ball in like 0.7 seconds.
24:18Like, of course, their pressure rate's going to be good.
24:21If you look at just throws between two and a half to three and a half seconds, they were fifth best in the NFL.
24:29They actually went up. So, really good pass blocking line.
24:32They got it done on the ground as well.
24:35It was some tough sledding there, but they got it done on the ground.
24:40Like, I don't know if this offense would have been able to function as well as it did in the absence of
24:47Brock Purdy without the offensive line playing as well as it did.
24:51And I haven't really seen them get credit for that.
24:54Even I, myself, am guilty of not giving them credit for that in a moment.
24:59But looking back with how many really bad offensive lines we've talked about this summer, and then you look at the Niners offensive line, you're like, well, shit.
25:08That was pretty good. Yeah. All things considered. Comparatively, it absolutely was a line that you can play behind and a line, obviously, that you can win behind.
25:17And that really kind of hasn't been the case for two to three years.
25:22High-profile failures, especially along the inside. We've criticized those pretty loudly.
25:25And we need to shout out the success just as loudly as we criticize the failure because it has been a detriment to their offense.
25:33It's been something holding them back, something that they needed to work around.
25:37And this last season, it was something they could work with, something they could win with.
25:43So, we need to sort of correct that imbalance.
25:45And the offensive line is only as strong as the weakest link, right?
25:50The weakest part. And they've had some very weak parts, and it's really caused some nasty collapses.
25:55And last year, that unit was not the reason that they were struggling.
25:59If they struggled, it was a reason that they were succeeding more often than not.
26:04And that's impressive. It's impressive work from the players to step up.
26:08It's impressive working from the coaches to find the right five and put them in there.
26:13And, honestly, offensive line just has a lot to do with toughness.
26:17You've got to be in there. Everybody plays hurt.
26:20And they held the line last year, and that was a big deal for San Francisco because it hadn't been the case
26:27for two or three seasons before that. Yeah. The real issue was our receivers are banged up, so we're just relying on Juwan Jennings to absolutely carry us.
26:36And then Kittle got banged up, and CMC was doing what he could.
26:41He could, you know, Yeomans were there. Everything he could.
26:44Everything he could. You know, Mac Jones, like, they didn't just have one quarterback injury.
26:49They had two quarterbacks injury. Remember that Mack Jones, I think it was a Thursday game, where, I mean, talk about toughness.
26:56He gutted it out. He was damn near on one leg, one shoulder, just getting the shit beat out of him.
27:03Eternal respect to Mack Jones for playing through that, knowing that he had to because you couldn't turn to Purdy in that moment.
27:10Purdy was hurt as well. So I just really what an incredible season by this Niners team with all of these obstacles.
27:17Yeah, they didn't end up going as far as they wanted to, but they went probably further than most people thought was ever possible.
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28:54Thank you. Thank you. And with that, let's get back to the show.
28:59All right. From here on out, we're talking 2026, which means EJ, we get to talk about Matt Eberflue is your favorite person.
29:06Oh boy. We have to again? Yes, we do because he's actually on this staff, but we'll start at the top.
29:13GM John Lynch and head coach Kyle Shanahan have been there for a while.
29:17Um, you know, notwithstanding, let's just call them other issues.
29:21They're in control of this team. Assistant head coach and offensive line coach is Chris Forrester.
29:26A little foreshadowing. We'll come back to that later.
29:29The assistant head coach defense is one Matt Eberflue.
29:32And we got to talk about it. I don't want to talk about it.
29:36Trust me. I don't want to talk about it.
29:39But after the mail-in job he did in Dallas, which quite frankly, I warned all my folks that follow the Cowboys about.
29:46And they said, Oh, you're just, it's just sour grapes because you're a Bears fan.
29:51And I was like, Oh, I, it's not probably going to be the experience you think it's going to be.
29:58And six weeks in to a person, they all came back and went, you weren't kidding.
30:03And I was like, no, no, I was not kidding.
30:06And one of the reasons that we're very excited about the Cowboys prospects this year is because of Christian Parker and how
30:13much elevation that's going to be for their defense, just starting off with that coaching change.
30:18So when you see Matt Eberflue pop up, you know, Beetles, Beetles, Beetles, and he's on a staff and he's the assistant head coach.
30:26You're like, based on what exactly? Everybody goes, Oh, he's a good defensive coordinator.
30:31And you're like, are you sure about that? Because the last two places he's been, that's not been the case.
30:37So not sure why he's on the staff. He is on the staff.
30:41Not sure what his job is. I I'm just going to lean into Raheem Morris being the DC and you know, his
30:48first, uh, first season in San Francisco as the DC, he was the Falcons head coach for the last couple of years where he was.
30:56So hopefully he's calling the shots because I would say anybody, but Eberflues at this point, certainly for the Niners fans in my life.
31:04I hope that's the case. The offensive coordinators, Clay Kubiak, he's been with San Francisco for five years.
31:10This is his first as OC. He was an offensive pass game specialist in 24.
31:15He was an assistant QB coach in 22 and 23.
31:18And just because I knew you'd ask, I literally put this note in.
31:22Cause you're like, what did he do for the other year?
31:26He was a defensive quality control coach in 21 when he started with San Francisco, but has been with the organization and
31:33now gets elevated to call the offense. His special teams coordinator is Brant Boyer 14th season as an NFL coach first as
31:40a special teams coordinator for the Niners. He was the jets special teams coordinator for the last nine seasons.
31:46So one of the rare teams where all three coordinators, offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator and special teams coordinator are new with the organization.
31:54That's not fairly typical unless there's been a whole scale change.
31:57And even then sometimes a lot of those this year, especially retained one coordinator or another.
32:02So a clean slate of three new coordinators is pretty rare in the NFL.
32:07I want to touch on, on Raheem a little bit here.
32:11Cause I'm fascinated to see what carries over versus what doesn't from Salah.
32:15Cause remember they, they were not a blitz heavy team at all last year.
32:19They were 29th in blitz rate and also 29th in pressure rate.
32:23And Raheem has tended to in the past, just kind of throw bodies at the problem to get pressure.
32:29And I think there's difference between, you know, tendency and philosophy, right?
32:33Tendency can be, um, you know, like what kind of fronts do we like?
32:38What kind of, you know, covered structures are we favoring?
32:41And then there's philosophy, which is things like, you know, uh, two blitz or two not blitz.
32:46That is the question, right? Like how aggressive do we want to be?
32:51What downs and distances do we want to be aggressive?
32:54Um, how are we handling like sudden change situations?
32:57Like that, that kind of stuff, right? Like are, are we, are we a team that, that wants to go into like zero in the high red zone?
33:06Or are we not? Like that to me is philosophy, which is kind of like turning the knob up and down.
33:13And then there's tendency, which is like, how, okay, how are we executing that?
33:17And Raheem has tended to be a lot more aggressive, I would say than Robert Sala.
33:22Whereas I, I associate Robert Sala more with like discipline.
33:26Isn't the right word, but I would say the floor of a Robert Sala defense has always been higher just because it's,
33:33structurally, it always felt like they were more about eliminating explosive backbreaking plays.
33:37Whereas Raheem is more about like generating explosive backbreaking plays for the defense.
33:41I guess that's the best way to describe the difference in philosophy here.
33:45So I'm really curious to see, you know, does Raheem kind of put that, put that aggressive stamp on this defense, which wasn't necessarily aggressive last year.
33:54Or maybe they would have been if they had all their guys, but they weren't.
33:59And if he does turn that knob up a little bit, what are the impacts on, you know, the linebacking core, the
34:06secondary that maybe all of a sudden have more space that they're going to have to cover than they did last year?
34:13It's just an interesting thing that we don't know the answer for right now, but probably within four or five weeks we will.
34:21And the flip side of that coin is also fascinating.
34:24If he chooses to do that, which players on this roster are going to benefit from that?
34:29Maybe they didn't play so well in that. I will say very disciplined style of Robert Sala about making sure that gaps are maintained, space is controlled.
34:38You're at the right depth, all that. Raheem's a little bit more about send the dogs, right?
34:44And there might be players who benefit from that aggression.
34:47Maybe those defensive line players we talked about are better turning it loose and getting upfield and not having to necessarily hold
34:54two gaps and be very disciplined about that. So it's always fascinating when you see a coaching change, who that benefits and
35:01who kind of gets lost in the wash because they don't fit the new direction.
35:06In terms of assistant coaches, on the offensive side, I'm only going to highlight two names because, again, if you're moving off
35:13from the offensive coordinator, you want to know who's going to be helping out the new offensive coordinator call the game.
35:20And it's run game coordinator Joe Graves and pass game coordinator and wide receivers coach Leonard Hankerson, who, again, is a longtime 49er staffer.
35:28He's going to be in charge of the pass side, Joe the run side, and they're both going to be helping out Kubiak.
35:35The defensive staff is absolutely stacked. Defensive pass game coordinator Jerry Gray, 30-plus years of coaching experience, plus nine years as an NFL player himself.
35:43Two-time D.C. Bills and Titans. On the other side, defensive run game coordinator Johnny Holland.
35:48Stop me if you've heard this one. 30-plus years of NFL coaching experience, seven years as an NFL player himself.
35:54Just between those two guys, you're talking about 60-plus years of NFL coaching experience.
35:59And then, of course, you've got defensive line coach Chris Kosurik, seventh season as the Niners D line coach, one of our favorite position coaches in the NFL.
36:08And then we're going to open up what I'm going to call the family business section.
36:13The assistant offensive line coach. That's a nice way to rebrand nepotism.
36:17Isn't it? Isn't it? What do you do for work?
36:20Oh, it's a family business. Oh, you mean like the mafia?
36:24No, no. I'm a football coach. The assistant offensive line coach is Roman Cipullo, and that is son of 49ers great Jesse
36:31Cipullo, who played 14 years with San Francisco his entire career was as a Niner.
36:36Defensive quality control coach is Jake Lynch. Yep, that's right.
36:39Son of John Lynch. And the seasonal coaching assistant is Micah Forrester, son of assistant head coach Chris Forrester.
36:45So, yes, the family business is alive and well in San Francisco.
36:49I have a lot of questions for the family business.
36:52And I think we will get to those very soon, probably before the draft section, now that I think about it.
36:59We'll do the free agency section, then get to the draft section, because I have some bones to pick with this family business, but what do I know?
37:08Anyway, let's do free agency first, and then we'll get into that.
37:12It's kind of our yearly trauma exercise when we go through the 49ers draft history.
37:17But for now, notable losses in free agency. Bryce Huff, Cleland Farrell, Kalia Davis, Kendrick Bourne, he's now with the Cardinals to be their wide receiver three.
37:26Dee Winters is now with the Cowboys. Brian Robinson Jr.
37:29is now with the Falcons. The other B. Robinson Falcons running back.
37:33Jason Pinnock is with the Giants. Ben Bartsch is with the Lions.
37:37Sky Moore is a Packer. Spencer Burford and Darrell Luter Jr.
37:40are now with the Raiders. Jordan Elliott is a Titan.
37:44And Juwan Jennings, everybody's favorite wide receiver three, is a Minnesota Viking.
37:47$8 million a year. Love that deal for Minnesota.
37:50A lot of losses here, some of which hurt more than others.
37:54But I would say not more than three of these are ones that cut me deep.
37:59Yeah, the one I'm going to bring up is Kalia Davis, the defensive tackle, who ended up with the Browns.
38:06When I was watching 49ers film last year, he was the guy that was wrecking shop in the middle of that line.
38:13We talked about the defensive tackles that weren't getting it done.
38:17Kalia Davis, week after week, not getting a ton of recognition, doing a lot of dirty work that is not fun to do on the interior defensive line.
38:26And he was really effective taking on double teams, corkscrewing the knee down, and making sure that gaps doesn't get blown open for runs.
38:33Like, he was the guy doing that messy business that has to happen on the inside of the defense.
38:40And so I know a lot of people probably see the name and go, ah, he went to the Browns.
38:46He only played 45% of the snaps. Not that big a deal.
38:50Might be a bigger deal, especially on this defensive line than it would be on some other teams.
38:56But a good get for the Browns. Tougher loss for the 49ers out of this section.
39:01In terms of who they spent their money on to keep, obviously it's Trent Williams.
39:06That's the big one. He gets $25 million at 38 years of age because he can still get it done, folks.
39:13It's good work if you can get it, but you can't get it because you're not Trent Williams.
39:18Luke Gifford is the current starter at Sam. Now most defenses don't start a Sam linebacker.
39:24Their base is nickel. But again, he's only getting $2.5 million.
39:27And if you're getting a starter for $2.5 million, you're doing all right.
39:31Kicker Eddie Pinheiro is re-signed. Jake Tongas, third, second or third tight end.
39:36Very valuable player for this offense. He gets $4 million.
39:39He could. Yeah, they use him a lot, both in blocking and in pass catching.
39:44So I thought that was good given the tight end market.
39:47That's, I would say, probably about half of what folks of his versatility are getting.
39:52Then they also retain Edge Sam Okuano. He played 53% of their snaps.
39:56He's still sub 30. They get him for $2.3 million, which when you see the flashes from him, they are pretty high.
40:03$2.3 million. I feel it's like a little bit of a hometown discount because he knows he's used well in this defense.
40:10But he has some flashes as well. Remind me of Khalid Davis a little bit.
40:15Different position, but same thing. You turn on the film and you're like, who's that?
40:20And you look it up and it's Sam and you're like, okay.
40:24So made a lot of sense to see him retained.
40:27And then as for outside additions, where they spent their money outside the building, you had the Osa trade bringing him in.
40:34He's getting $20 million a year. Mike Evans. So, first of all, shout out to Bucs fans.
40:40They corrected us in the comments on that one.
40:43I thought that the Niners outbid Tampa for Mike Evans.
40:46Apparently, Tampa matched it, but Mike chose the Niners.
40:49But either way, he was getting $14 million. So he is now with the 49ers.
40:54He was presumably on paper to be the wide receiver one, but we'll see how healthy he can be this year.
41:01Either way, I think he'll be a good presence for Deshaun Stribbling to follow around while he's learning to be a pro.
41:08Because Mike Evans is a future Hall of Famer and pretty good guy to learn from.
41:13Jack Jones they brought in to add to the corner room.
41:16Christian Kirk they brought in to add to the receiver room.
41:20Because again, guys keep getting injured. And so much so that they went back to the Debo Samuel well for $4.1 million a year.
41:28He's 30 years old. It's been a little bit since it felt like he had Debo-like gas in the tank.
41:34Do you have any hope that he will look like 28-year-old Debo at 30?
41:39If there is any hope, it is with him in San Francisco.
41:43That is where he had the greatest heights of his career.
41:46He did not look like that with the Commanders, I should say.
41:50It looked like it was pretty well over. If there is any kind of renaissance brewing, it would be in San Francisco.
41:57If I had to put odds on that, I'm not going higher than about 40% that it'll happen.
42:03Like it could happen. And again, it would only happen here.
42:07Do I think it is going to happen? I'm not going to put folding money on that one.
42:12I alluded to it earlier. I want to lead into the draft section with our patron viewer note.
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42:25patron, but been listening to the pod since day one.
42:29The evolution of everything you guys have done has been nothing short of amazing.
42:33We appreciate you, Drake, for being here as long as you have.
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42:44So if you've been here that long, we appreciate you and everybody else who has tolerated some really awful production value over the years.
42:52But now we're here. Drake continues. As for my beloved 49ers, the criticism has been very strong in terms of the front office.
43:00So what do you guys think John Lynch and company have to do to make it over the hump, barring injuries to our squad?
43:07Caveat. Yeah. How many asterisks can we put next to that?
43:11And if we don't make it over the hump, will there be some sort of foreseeable changes to our front office slash coaching?
43:18Thanks, guys. And keep up the great work. And congratulations on how far you've been making it.
43:24Cheers to 2026 and onward. Thank you once again, Drake.
43:27Right. History. The criticism is deserved. And if you just look at the last five years, right?
43:33I won't do the last two years because this year's class hasn't played yet.
43:37And the 2025 class, it's only been a year.
43:40Might be too early to cast judgment, even though early returns, at least on the defensive line picks, not ideal.
43:47But again, we'll kind of stick with 2022 through 2024.
43:502022. It's Drake Jackson, Tyrion Davis Price, Danny Gray, Spencer Burford, Sam Womack, Kalia Davis, Tariq Castro Fields, and Brock Purdy.
43:57Mm-hmm. Not a great class overall. But when you get your franchise quarterback in the seventh round, you get a contributor in Kalia Davis.
44:04You get, you know, at least a guy that started a bunch of games for you in Spencer Burford.
44:11Like you could do worse than that, but it's like clearly not the ideal draft overall.
44:162023, Jair Brown, Jake Moody, Cam Latu, Daryl Luter, Robert Beal, Dee Winters, Braden Willis, Ronnie Bell, Jalen Graham.
44:22Whole lot of fucking nothing, in my opinion. 2024.
44:25Three drafts ago. Ricky Pearsall. Good in theory when he's on the field.
44:29We'll see. Renardo Green. Dominic Pune. Malik Mustafa. Isaac Garendo.
44:32Jacob Cowing. Jarrett Kingston. Tatum Bithin. Three straight drafts.
44:35Did they get anybody even remotely close to being the top half of their position group in the NFL?
44:41I think this is a tough stretch. Like when you look at three straight years and you stack it together, it's not great.
44:49Like just in terms of whatever hit rate you want to use, average hit rate for the NFL, hit rates within our organization.
44:56Like I honestly think the 2022 draft is better if you turn it upside down.
45:01Oh, absolutely. Like if you'd started with Brock Purdy, Tariq Castro Fields, and Kalia Davis, knowing what those players turned out to be, that'd be great.
45:09Drake Jackson was a huge question mark for me.
45:12And we don't need to go into our grades for all that.
45:16That is not a great year. They get incredibly lucky.
45:19If you, you know, say they make the choice not to make Brock Purdy Mr.
45:24Irrelevant and you look at that draft, it's terrible.
45:27Like by any, well, if they don't take Brock Purdy, that means everybody would have been fired anyway because they're coming off
45:34the Trey Lance trade, trade didn't work out. And if you're pinning that on Mr.
45:39Irrelevant, that is lucky in the extreme. That means every single team in the NFL passed on him six to seven times.
45:46Like nobody thought he was good. It's not like, Oh, the 49ers knew.
45:51No, the 49ers knew they would have took him in third round.
45:54Like they took him in the seventh round with the very last pick.
45:59So lucky, better than good. Not a good draft.
46:022022, not a good draft. 2023. I'm with you.
46:04There's really nothing there. I, we didn't necessarily like it at the time.
46:09I, I don't feel great about it now. It's not a good draft.
46:132024. Ricky Pearsall again gets shot when he gets to San Francisco.
46:17Not something you anticipate. He's been injured again. Renardo green.
46:20Good player for them, right? Dominic Pune. We just brought him up.
46:24Good player for them. Starter. Malik Mustafa has played in stretches and you know, he's a hell of a hitter.
46:30I think he's a solid role player again. Fourth round choice.
46:34That's fine. Garendo. We had some high hopes. Hasn't worked out.
46:37Jacob Cowling. Wide receiver, special teamer, useful player. Fourth round pick.
46:41Little rich for me, but I'm not going to argue it because would have been fine.
46:46Fifth or sixth. Kingston and Bethune. Nothing but six and seventh round picks.
46:50I'm not going to kill that draft. Freaky Pearsall had been healthy and productive for his first couple of years.
46:57Renardo green has had a bunch of starts. Dominic Pune, bunch of starts.
47:01One, two, three. That's a, that's a pretty solid draft.
47:04You're talking about top half. No, probably not for any of those guys, possibly Pearsall, but I'm going to say 2024 solid.
47:11But when you stack 2022, 2023 and 2024 together and really all you get out of it is the ghost of Ricky
47:19Pearsall, Renardo Green, Dominic Pune, Mustafa kicking in a little bit.
47:22Jacob Cowling kicking in a very little bit. Purdy got super lucky on.
47:26Kalia Davis was good. Tariq Castro Fields kicking in a little bit.
47:30Burford kicking in a little bit. That's it for three.
47:33What I'm going to say are very full classes.
47:36This isn't like San Francisco had four choices or something like this is a lot of draft picks.
47:42It's like damn near 30 picks. Yeah. And for that, it's below average by any measure you use of success, of retention, of anything else.
47:50We need to remember that the team that's in their division, their northern rivals who won the Super Bowl, had a very similar stretch of three years.
47:59John Schneider, we talk about him wandering in the wilderness.
48:02And he got it back for the last three years.
48:06His last three years of drafts have been locked down, deal with the devil type stuff.
48:11Amazing. This is Lynch's period of wandering in the desert.
48:14Did he get back with last year's draft or this year's draft?
48:18I think it's harder to say that. Like when those Seahawks drafts happened, we were like, these are great drafts.
48:24And we said so at the time, like literally the day after in our best classes episode.
48:30We said, no, this is like Schneider is back.
48:33He is on it. I don't feel the same way about the last two drafts for the Niners.
48:39They might be better than these, but that's a low bar to clear.
48:43And so I think when we're talking about like what, you know, what do they have to do to get over the hump?
48:50It's to not string together three years like this one.
48:53Correct. That's what you have to do. That's how the Seahawks got over the hump.
48:58They stopped stringing together three years of bad drafts.
49:01And the core of this team has been built off of, you know, that late 2010s core that they built together.
49:08And then you sprinkle in Brock Purdy. But like when they brought in George, when they brought in Fred, you know, Bosa, like all of these guys.
49:17They've really been kind of living off that for a long, long time.
49:21And now those guys are up there. About ready to lead.
49:24Yeah. Right. And they're not bouncing back from injuries as fast as they have been.
49:29They're getting injured more than they have been. Like your left tackles 38.
49:34And they brought him in. I think it was.
49:36I see Trent got there. What, 2018? Somewhere around there.
49:40Before they, you know, started going to the Super Bowl every other year for a time.
49:45And so I just I look at. I look at how successful teams build.
49:49And they're constantly replenishing. Right. Like they build a core.
49:53And that core grows together. And that core tends to get expensive.
49:56And then you replenish the roster underneath them by, again, nailing draft picks that are cheaper and contributing on cheap contracts.
50:03And when you're not kind of replenishing that, that that not lower half of the roster, but I'd say lower half of the cap table.
50:11But with quality guys where you're getting kind of like plus EV for the money.
50:16And then you just have to lean more into your core and just gets older and more expensive because you can't move on because you have nobody else.
50:25It just creates this scenario, you know, kind of like what we're looking at right now where they're on razor thin margins.
50:32It's because they haven't drafted well enough. So I think if things go poorly, you know, is Kyle Shanahan in trouble?
50:39No, I think John Lynch is, though. Because we know Kyle's not the issue.
50:44Yeah, he would be first. Lynch would be first because I think more responsibility lies with him.
50:49The other way that you sort of have a safety relief valve is as you hopefully draft well and those players play
50:56well, you get the decision like Kansas City's taken several times.
51:00Do I pay this guy or do I trade him for a bunch of assets and then try and spend those draft picks?
51:07Well, that's one way. The other way is, OK, I didn't get a chance to trade him.
51:13He's a quality player. He's going to fetch a pretty good price in free agency if we let him go and I'm
51:20going to get compensatory selections and then I need to spend those well.
51:24Right. Those are the two sort of loopholes. Right.
51:27I'm not going to pay this guy 30, 20, 30, 40 million dollars a year.
51:32I'm going to trade him for a first rounder and a fourth rounder and I need to I need to hit on
51:39those picks or going to let him get to the open market.
51:43I'm going to get a third and a fifth.
51:46I need to hit on those. The bottom line is you got to hit on draft picks no matter what.
51:52Right. There isn't any get out of jail free card that has you picking poorly, especially not for multiple years.
51:59And if you do, it will catch up with you.
52:02You will run out of depth. You will run out of money.
52:06Right. You'll be trying to retain retain your aging and expensive core and then you won't be able to go out and
52:13spend 20 or 30 million to make a splash in free agency to get that guy that you didn't draft.
52:20So it will come due in that way. And the overall quality declines.
52:24And I'm talking about backups. I'm talking about special teams.
52:27I'm talking about all of it. And those are the margins that are eventually going to cost you games when those aging
52:34stars aren't available or leave or retire or are on the sidelines with injury.
52:39You don't have the young fireballers to come in and say, oh, well, you took the job.
52:44Neat. Or if you do, you get reduced quality and then that costs you wins.
52:49And so it does come due. You can't run away from it forever if you don't draft well.
52:55And the 49ers, by any measure, have not drafted particularly well in a while now.
53:00Which then brings us to this year's draft. If that's not a setup.
53:04How do we feel, EJ? Oh, that's not a setup.
53:07Well, they went against a lot of what I will call conventional wisdom.
53:11And they do seem to have been proved right with Dijon Stribling in the second round at pick 33.
53:17A little early. A receiver I think we both liked.
53:21I really like Stribling. But when they took him at 33, you can go watch the draft live stream.
53:27I was like, okay. They really, really liked him.
53:30But it was a surprise. It wasn't criticism and it wasn't panic.
53:34It was more surprise. But it was like, oh, interesting.
53:37Right. I like the player. Good player. But it was different than what we expected.
53:42Several teams had come out afterwards and said, well, if they didn't take him, we were going to take him within the next seven to ten picks.
53:50So they got him where they needed to. And early returns are very good on Stribling.
53:56Again, if he can stay on the field, I think that's probably a hit.
54:00Romello Height, they get in the third round at 70.
54:03The edge rusher, the other edge rusher out of Texas.
54:07This is David Bailey's other side edge rusher. Not as talented as Bailey.
54:11Not as complete a player. But I think someone that can contribute certainly as a sort of DPR to start and could
54:18grow into being a solid NFL player. And in the third round at 70, when you're talking about edge, usually you have to get them earlier than that.
54:27This was kind of the back end of that.
54:30Still has talent, has some flaws, but we're gambling on traits and we're leaning into guys like Chris Kosurik to develop guys like Romello Height.
54:38I can see the path to the first two picks.
54:41No problem. 20 picks later in the third round at 90.
54:45They get Kalen Black, the running back from Indiana.
54:48I was not super high on Kalen Black. I think he is a good runner, not a great one.
54:54This was early for me. Of course, he goes off in the preseason.
54:58That's what's going to happen. San Francisco seems to be able to get very good performances out of running backs that they pick.
55:06Whether or not we like them, typically we have liked the guys that have done pretty well in their system.
55:12If they get a bunch out of Kalen Black, they're right.
55:16I'm wrong. I can live with that. We get to day three.
55:19Fourth round, pick 107. Grayson Halton, one of your favorite players in the draft.
55:24Defensive lineman out of Oklahoma. One of the few true penetrating, slashing three techs who can really cause havoc on opposing offenses.
55:31I like this pick. I actually didn't think he was going to last this long.
55:36You were beside yourself that he'd lasted this long.
55:39I couldn't believe it. Yeah. Oh my God. I was like, what do I not know?
55:44Because watching him on tape, I was like, he's better than the vast majority of defensive linemen still left on the board.
55:51And he just wasn't going. And again, so far, early returns are good.
55:55I like him a lot. Dare I say he's going to be their solution alongside Osa to their lack of interior pressure.
56:02You know, if at this point, if Alfred Collins and CJ West turn into the first and second down guys and Halton's
56:10your third down guy and then Osa's your everything guy.
56:13Like, okay, I can live with that rotation. I do feel like part of the reason why they took Halton here is
56:20because they were worried about what they saw from Collins and CJ West last year because they got nothing from them in the pass rush department.
56:28But if we're just building a platoon, I think the best versions of all of those guys that they've drafted in the
56:35last two drafts could make a really, really good platoon.
56:39They all got a hit. But as far as mixing skill sets and body types and in my head, it just makes sense.
56:46So I'll put it that way. Yeah, it pencils out.
56:49And I think their sort of value meter just came into line with Halton.
56:54They were like, hey, we're at the start of day three.
56:57He's still on the board. He could really help us here.
57:01We're comfortable with whatever they knew about the player that we didn't that, you know, caused him to get to day three.
57:08They were like, no, we'll pull the trigger here.
57:11So we go from a player that you were super high on and super surprised was still there to a player I
57:18was super high on who they picked a lot earlier than a lot of other people thought they might, which is Carver Willis.
57:26It says guard. He played tackle at Washington. They get him in the fourth round at 127, 20 picks after Grayson Halton.
57:33I really like Carver Willis. I will say that.
57:36I never thought he would go in the fourth round.
57:39I really liked him as a pick him up in the sixth.
57:43And I think he has a couple fixable flaws.
57:46And I'd reached out to multiple people who know a lot more about offensive line than me after I watched Carver Willis.
57:53And I said, tell me if I'm wrong, but I think there's a lot of things you really like here as an offensive line coach.
58:01And I think the things that he doesn't do super well are correctable things, not physical lackings or just, you know, he shuts his head off.
58:09Like, I think they're coachable points. And there are a couple of them, which is why he didn't get drafted earlier.
58:16All three of them came back and said, I think you're right.
58:20I think there's something there. And I think I would spend a late round pick on him if I had a good
58:27offensive line coach and maybe get like a very functional swing tackle.
58:31All of that to say, that's not typically what you pick in the fourth round.
58:36So if they make Carver Willis work, who is currently slated as a starting guard for them, he exceeded even my expectations.
58:43And I was a Carver Willis defender. So we'll see how he plays inside a guard.
58:48I think he has some real, he has some tremendous strength.
58:52That was very clear on his tape is even when he loses, he can make himself right with strength.
58:58So his transition to guard, I feel better about than a lot of, you know, tackle to guard converts.
59:04We'll see how it works. He can help stabilize this line for second straight year and maybe even elevate them.
59:10Totally worth a fourth round pick. I really like their next fourth round or even more Ephesians Priceock.
59:16One of my favorite kind of undervalued corners in this class.
59:20The other Washington corner, because Washington had two of them in this class.
59:24I loved him on tape. If for some reason, the Huskies just keep producing these long press corners and they they tend to do well in the league.
59:33I'm not saying he's going to come out and be like a Pro Bowl caliber corner.
59:38But like, yeah, if you had to play him right now because your room takes injuries.
59:43I think he could he could survive, which again, for a fourth round corner.
59:48Yeah, if I could say, yeah, you can put him out there against insert NFC West opponent here and he would survive
59:55like, hey, go cover Michael Wilson tomorrow. That's a great value for pick 139 to get a startable, playable corner that is
60:02not going to make you want to walk off a bridge when he's out there.
60:07Fully agree. Ephesians Priceock, tall, lanky, extremely long, uses his length extremely well.
60:11You saw it in the preseason is aggressive with it.
60:15A lot of times when you get slider corners who have a lot of length and they're not particularly aggressive, they sort of negate their own strengths.
60:23He's not that guy. He's going to be in your face.
60:27He plays like he's 35 pounds heavier than he is.
60:30And I'm with you. I think he is going to be functional in that corner rotation for them.
60:36So great value at 139. We skip down to the fifth round, 154.
60:40Jaden Duggar, the linebacker out of Louisiana and Enrique Cruz Jr., the tackle out of Kansas, who actually thought would go before Carver Willis.
60:48I liked Enrique Cruz Jr. at 179. So the fact they got them both solid depth picks back to your question about
60:55did they get anybody that's going to be top half?
60:58You know, of their position in the NFL. Well, I think Stribbling certainly could be.
61:03I think Grayson Halton could be. And maybe, maybe, maybe if Carver Willis works out to the nth degree, he might tickle that range.
61:11I think this draft slightly needle up from the last three.
61:14But we don't know. It's super early. It's way too early to truly grade a draft class.
61:20But again, all we've got is initial returns. What we've seen through offseason, OTAs, preseason games.
61:25There have been some flashes from these guys. And if you're going to spend pick 179 on a dart throw on the
61:32offensive line, like might as well do it on the dude with a 999 RAS.
61:37That's Enrique Cruz Jr. from Kansas. Yeah. He's 6'5", 313 with a 35-inch vert at 313.
61:42That's edge rusher vert. Ran a 494. So a sub 540 with a 174 10-yard split.
61:47Elite, elite athlete. Got huge hands. Adequate length. He's like just shy of 34 inches, which is totally fine with me.
61:54I really like him as an athlete. Kind of out of control on tape, but that's okay.
62:00That's why he went in the fifth, right? He's a ball of clay.
62:04We trust our guys to mold him. And if you get like the best version of what Enrique Cruz can be, that's
62:11literally a starting tackle in the NFL. That's how gifted he is physically.
62:15Long way to go until he gets there. But that's why he went in the fifth.
62:20It is a pure dart throw developmental, let's see what he can be eventually kind of guy.
62:26As for UDFA's Mikael Kamara, you know, he had a bunch of fans.
62:30You know, CJ West's old teammate at Indiana. Ended up on IR, unfortunately.
62:34Jalen Stroman made the practice squad. Will Pauling made the practice squad.
62:38Wesley Grimes made the practice squad. Khalil Dinkins made the practice squad.
62:42And then James Thompson made the 53. So a bunch of the UDFAs that they brought in are still getting paychecks for the 49ers.
62:50It's pretty good. Yeah, six of eight UDFAs that you brought in in a class still being employed by the team after
62:57the cut down to 53 is a ridiculous hit rate.
63:00If we're talking about a good hit rate, one, maybe two, three UDFAs, no matter the size of your class, is great in any capacity.
63:08Again, on the practice squad, if you've had to put them on an injured reserve, unfortunately, they're still on your team.
63:15But like you're talking about six out of eight.
63:18That's unheard of. That is a it either means it's a very easy team to make, which it was a 12 win team.
63:25The anti-Broncos. Nobody made the team. Even guys they drafted didn't make the team.
63:30It's either a very easy team to make or your scouts did a great job assembling the UDFA class that is going
63:37to give you cost control labor that are going to contribute.
63:41Again, James Thompson Jr. on the 53 to start the season doesn't mean he'll be there all year might bounce up and
63:48down probably will between the practice squad on on any given week.
63:52But that is that is far better than any of their drafting results for the past four years.
63:58Brings us to our last segment ceiling and floor.
64:00I really do think if you can win 12 games last year through all of that, you can win 12 games any year.
64:08So sign me up for a ceiling of 12 again.
64:11And hell, maybe even 13 if everybody stays healthy, but it's a niner.
64:15So I'm just kind of like factoring in that they won't be.
64:19But I can't in good conscience go lower than 12 after last year's team hit 12.
64:24Like that would just be stupid of me to do.
64:28So I'm going 12 as the ceiling. As for floor.
64:31I am going eight just because the schedule is like a little bit harder this year, not like crazy, crazy hard compared to some of the other teams.
64:40But it is a little bit harder. And I still do have some unanswered questions about the defensive line.
64:46Like, OK, we refreshed the ideal pool and, you know, Bosa's coming off injury.
64:51Like we'll see. Again. Again. We'll see how the defensive line plays.
64:54I do wonder what Raheem is going to do stylistically and if that's going to work.
65:00I would love to see all of the skill positions for the 49ers be healthy.
65:05We'll see if that ever happens. Ever. I'm just going to just one second of imagining.
65:10Evans, Pearsall and Stribling is a starting three. If you could get all three of those guys as you're starting three wide
65:17receivers, that's one of the stronger receiver cores in the NFL.
65:20Right. It's top third easily if they're all healthy, but you're getting one of them right now.
65:26So it's one at a time. And you just never know which one it's going to be.
65:31You're only getting one of the three. Three together would be too powerful.
65:36You can only have one each week. You pick.
65:38No, it's just unfortunate because, again, it's not that the organization picked poorly, right, or chose the wrong thing.
65:45I mean, Mike Evans as a dig merchant in Kyle's offense.
65:48Come on. Like, that's a dream fit. It's perfect.
65:51No, I want Mike running, you know, the Mike Evans special, which is just go balls down the boundary because you have to respect it.
65:59Yeah. And then stripling. I want to be like that mid-level assassin because he also has speed that you have to respect,
66:06which then just makes it easier for him to just effortlessly win on whether it's, you know, he's running the seven on
66:13flood and just meeting the ball at the sideline.
66:16Or if he's running the backside dig on the backside of flood.
66:20Like, there's so many things you can do with him because he's so physically gifted.
66:25He's good after the catch. He's a threat deep down the field.
66:29Like, I think he is going to be that classic Kyle Shanahan receiver that gets whatever he wants at like a 17-yard
66:36depth because you'd rather give him that than give him the thing that's 30 yards down the field.
66:42Like, remember like Pierre Garçon back in the day in this offense.
66:46Pierre got whatever he wanted in the intermediate because teams were terrified of him down the field.
66:51Yeah. I think stripling could be that. So Evans, he's going to be getting his cardio.
66:56I don't think he's going to produce as much as he did with Baker just because Brock, different kind of quarterback.
67:03I'll say that. Good quarterback, different kind of quarterback.
67:06Stripling though, like he's going to eat. I really do think he's going to eat.
67:11If he's the guy that's playing from this receiving core on a given week.
67:16I think they draw straws every Wednesday. All right.
67:18Who's going this way? So unfair. My ceiling is the same at 12 because I think this team will actually be a better version of last year's team.
67:28And they won 12 last year, but the schedule is going to offset that a little bit.
67:33So the win total is the same, but I think a stronger team, even at a 12 win ceiling, my floor is nine.
67:40Because if you won 12 last year with everything that went on playing a backup quarterback, all the high profile losses, total
67:48number of games lost due to injury being near the top 10 in the NFL.
67:52Like if you won 12 with that, I don't see you winning less than nine.
67:57So, you know, we're only a game different on the floor.
68:01We're the same on the ceiling. This is a vicious division.
68:04The coaching is really strong, got stronger in the offseason.
68:08The rosters are really strong. You could argue got stronger.
68:11It's the, you know, division home of the Super Bowl champs.
68:14Like there's no easy games here, but as you said, when they were healthy early in the season last year, before the
68:22injury set in, they beat both of those teams.
68:24So they've still got, you know, that they give Shanahan offseason bragging rights over the Super Bowl champion coach and McVay, who he knows really well.
68:33Like, hey man, when we went straight up and I had all the horses, what was the result again?
68:39You want to get me a beer? After, in a couple days, we're going to see Shanahan and McVay face off at
68:46least a couple days as of when this goes live, we think, presumably.
68:50Ideally, this goes live before that game. We'll see.
68:53But they're opening up in Australia against the Rams.
68:56So we will be recapping that game, not immediately after it happens, but in our week one recap show.
69:02Make sure to come back for that. But tomorrow specifically, we're going to be talking about their opponent, the Rams, because we are wrapping up NFC West week.
69:11We have two episodes left, technically three episodes left in the Summer Series.
69:16We've got the Rams, the Seahawks, and then our patron NFC West wrap up over on Patreon.
69:21We are doing our best to fit these under the wire before kickoff.
69:25I think we're going to be able to. Famous last words.
69:29But we'll see. Either way, thank you guys for watching and listening.
69:33We will see you back here tomorrow for the Rams.