0:00Dropping bold fantasy football predictions for week three of the season. Theo Greinger right here at Rotoire joined each and every week by
0:07Jacob Gibbs of Beyond the Box score.
0:09Jacob, let's start off right from the top. Last week we had an unbelievable smash week performance from Dalton Schultz. What are you expecting this
0:19week in a huge matchup for Houston?
0:22>> Yeah, Houston really needs a win here. A couple 0 and2 teams, I think they're going to be focused on Schultz as they
0:28were last week. um just given the state of the wide receiver room. I think they really need him to come through in a big
0:33way. So I think that this would have been a very big Nico Collins spot, a very big Jaden Higgins spot if those
0:39guys would have been healthy enough for this game. And the reason I say that is the Colts um are a team that use a lot
0:45of man coverage. Um, and specifically what I'm interested in this game, um, with the lack of man coverage beaters on the Texans, with the lack of, um,
0:56receivers in general, if we might see this Texans team go to a lot more big personnel packages. They have a lot of
1:02tight ends on this team that they like.
1:04This is a, you know, Shawn McVey, you know, that kind of coaching tree here coming in with Nick Kaylee calling the plays, but we haven't seen
1:13much of that. They've actually used a ton of 11 personnel this year, which is I think surprised people. But I think
1:17that has potentially more to do with the fact that they've been playing from behind than anything else. Um they've been trailing basically all year long.
1:24And so if they're able to kind of dictate their terms, play the way that they would like, I think that we could
1:29see a bounceback for David Montgomery in this game. And I think we could see some big play action shots off of the um run
1:36game if they get it going here against a Colts team that has been pretty easy to run on this year. Um, I think this Colts
1:42defense is is near the bottom of the league just in general. Um, and you're going to be able to do what you want
1:47most of the time against this defense is the way that it looks so far. Um, the other thing that's interesting to me
1:51about this matchup is the Colts match base personnel uh to big personnel 72% of the time. So when you do go two tight
1:59ends, three tight ends or whatever, the Colts are one of these defenses that are reactive to that and they'll just basically match with a bigger group of
2:07defenders um in an attempt to slow down the run or whatever. Um and I think in those situations you can take advantage
2:15of that and attack um with the play action game because you'll get maybe softer matchups for for example Daltton Schultz getting him on linebackers more
2:22and more and more even when he is the clear receiving threat among the tight ends. um that are on the field. I still
2:28think he might get advantageous matchups and we might be able to see them funnel targets through him again. 27% first read target rate for Schultz last
2:38week and then we just see obviously the massive massive game. He's a really good player. Um I remember before the season
2:44started I looked at his stats compared to Jake Ferguson's stats. um obviously former teammate there in Dallas over the past three years since that acquisition
2:51here in Houston and he's like better across the board on a per opportunity basis and really just overall like it's a lot closer than people might realize
3:00because Ferguson's been the more fantasy relevant tight end but like this guy's a good player good with the ball in his
3:04hands can actually win routes occasionally which is really unique in the tight end position so I as a top five tight end this week for fantasy
3:12football um I think we might see another huge week so we'll say you know 15 plus points and I think you might even get a
3:19week sort of similar to last week.
3:22>> Yeah. And I think people who were shocked by last week are not really examining the box score. I mean, you
3:27talk about a top five tight end this week. I think I'm fully there with you.
3:31I think he's right around tight end five for me alongside guys like Sam Leaporta.
3:36The usage was outstanding last week, but he also had eight targets in week one.
3:40And Jacob, it's like a Mandela effect for for last year where people don't fully realize like Daltton Schultz had 106 targets, which is an elite number
3:49for a tight end. He had 82 catches last year. So, he's been on a really solid run. We know the familiarity with CJ
3:56Strad now and the like the sort of the safety blanket role he's in. And I think any week without Nico Collins, uh,
4:02you've need to really really elevate Daltton Schultz, but I think he's their clear number two target in the passing game for the rest of the season. and I
4:09think he's going to be maintain a low-end tight end one role, but he's got a very safe floor moving forward for the
4:15for the rest of the year. My bold prediction, I tried this one week one, and week one it didn't work. Um, week
4:22one I I said it was going to be a big Garrett Wilson game. I'm going to double down on it in week three and I think a
4:28lot of the talk has been Adai Mitchell's really strong start and how Mitchell and Wilson are like neck andneck in targets
4:34right now with Mitchell actually having more targets on the season. I think this is an unbelievable opportunity for Garrett Wilson to have a huge week and I
4:43think it's a sneaky Gino Smith week. I think if you're playing DFS and you want to use a super cheap quarterback, Gino's
4:50like 4,900 on DraftKings and you can obviously stack him with Garrett Wilson.
4:56You could stack him with Mitchell. You could stack him with any assorted Lions.
5:01You know, throw your Ammon Ros, your Jir Gibbs in there cuz I think this is going to be a game that's going to going to
5:06fly over. I think that this the Detroit Lions defense is really struggling to stop people and the Jets are struggling to run the ball. We saw the Green Bay
5:13Packers completely shut them down on the ground last week. So, I think they're going to lean into the passing game and
5:18I think that's going to benefit Garrett Wilson in a major way. Wilson's going to have eight catches for 130 yards and a
5:25touchdown this week. It's going to be a similar output to what we saw from Chris Ave in week one where put 180 receiving
5:33yards on the board against this Lions team. And I think Gino is going to pass for about three touchdowns this week. I
5:40think he's going to have a solid week.
5:41So Garrett Wilson is going to remind everyone that he is a really strong wide receiver one usage wise. He's going to
5:50separate himself a little bit from the field and he's going to be the main reason that the Jets are going to scare
5:55the hell out of the Lions this week. I think the Lions do get the win, but I think it's going to be way closer than
6:00some people think and I think it's an over environment.
6:03>> Yeah, man. I think that makes a lot of sense. Um, I'm pretty intrigued by this game. I think it makes a ton of sense to
6:07go here aggressively if you are playing DFS. These are two defenses that are super blitzheavy. Um, use man coverage and I think that that just uh can
6:18facilitate these um explosive plays, these like back and forth type of games.
6:24Um, obviously we've seen that with the Lions. Um, the Jets also are a team that blitz a lot. So, I I even like the um
6:30the Lions side of it a lot. I mean, that's a little bit more obvious, but when Jared Goff has been blitzed, he's
6:35actually been one of the best quarterbacks in the league. Um, he sometimes struggles against pressure, but just against the blitz, he'll pick
6:41you apart. Um, and his top target by far is obviously a Monor St. Brown. Um, so if you're going to leave yourself, you
6:48know, in one-on-one situations against Sun God, you're going to lose over and over and over. Um, could see some big JMO splash plays in this game, and that
6:55just gets it cooking, right? That just gets it back and forth, back into Gino's hands playing catchup. So, I think that
7:00makes a ton of sense.
7:03>> Yeah, I'm I'm into it. And we'll keep an eye on the Lions offensive line. They're dealing with some injuries, but on the
7:10flip side, you bring up the blitz heavy nature of Detroit. New York looks really good in terms of pass blocking this
7:15year. They've got a number of strong players there. So, I think this is a a situation where we're chasing this game
7:21fantasy-wise. Um, and hey, maybe Bree Hall could catch a couple more passes.
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7:39Uh Jacob, we're going to continue this conversation. You you have a really good one. Uh it's a Monday night prediction, but uh which player is set to smash?
7:47>> I think Data Smith just keeps it rolling. Um so I really liked last week's spot for Smith. Um, and partially
7:54that's because the Titans have allowed the highest catchable target rate on first three targets this year for the fantasy points data suite. Um, they've
8:03been very easy to attack that way. The Bears are similar. Um, and the Lions actually have the third highest rate, by
8:09the way. So, for your Garrett Wilson call out, I think that looks good. Um, I also am intrigued by this because the
8:15Bears have been using a ton of man coverage. They're using man coverage 43% of the time. They're using single high safety looks 66% of the time. And to me,
8:25like Devont Smith is at the top of the list, the players that you don't want to leave your quarterbacks out on an island
8:31against. Um, so I I I feel pretty good about this spot. It obviously like could go um arai if if the Bears can't keep
8:42up, if it goes if it just becomes a huge like Saquon Barkley game or whatever, if the Eagles um are able to just control
8:48this game on the ground. But we saw last week that they really um were aggressive in testing the the stuff that I think
8:56they want to do with Jaylen Herz. More of the let's throw over the middle.
9:00Let's actually try to unlock that. Um they did do that against the Titans last week. And I think this might be another
9:06really soft matchup where they're able to do that and get some momentum rolling as they've got some difficult matchups coming up, you know. Um so I I've got my
9:14eye on Smith as like one of the top receivers uh on the board for week three. I've got him right up there with
9:20Garrett Wilson. Um yeah, Devont Smith have a wide receiver six. Wilson have a wide receiver nine this week.
9:27>> Yeah, Devont Smith a careerhigh with 13 targets last week. Um this is I mean I think he tied a careerh high but Dvontto
9:35Smith completely locked in in this role.
9:37No Dallasart this week. So that's is sort of tightening things up. Uh Dante Wix I think will get some usage. Maybe
9:43we see a little bit of Mai Lemon. I know you talked about Lemon last week. sort of your expectations without we're we're
9:49going to go back to the well here. Um I'm I'm optimistic for Lemon this week.
9:54I think they're going to sort of force the hands of Philadelphia to use all three wide receivers. Where you at on
10:01Lemon for this particular week?
10:03>> Um I think it it makes sense that this could be a great spot for either Wix or or Devont Smith just cuz I think that
10:09they can get what they want down the field. They're great. They're both good against fan coverage. Lemon obviously I think could pop in this and they might
10:16want to get him going, but it's just been frustrating to see him out there running cardio. Um, so I've got him
10:23ranked pretty low. Um, but obviously the matchup is soft. Um, I've got him at wide receiver 53. So it's like I'd
10:29rather started the Brian Thomas Jr. or Marvin Harrison Jr. if you happen to be somebody who's stuck with those guys.
10:34Um, but generally speaking, I'm looking to wait and and get confirmation of what the role might be for Lemon in terms of
10:41more downfield looks. We just haven't had him yet.
10:44>> Yeah, I'm I'm still going to continue to to stash Lemon. I mean, I don't think he's a guy you want to throw out there,
10:49but I do think he's a stash. Um, my next bold prediction is on a running back.
10:54And I think this is the Chase Brown game for fantasy managers who have been waiting on Brown. Uh, last week, you
11:00know, the volume was fantastic, the production wasn't. He had 23 touches. He had 21 touches in week one. Week one, he
11:08finds the end zone. He scores 18 plus points. Last week, 11.2 two points. And Chase Brown, we saw him sort of living
11:15around the 10th overall pick when we got into late August, early September. And I think a lot of the narrative was the
11:22splits with Joe Burrow were so good. He averaged 20 plus points per I think that was a Jacob Gibbs uh stat that everybody
11:29just started repeating over and over again. But Jacob, you you dropped that stat with me this summer about the splits where I think Chase Brown was
11:37like 21 points per game last year in games that Joe Burrow started. Um, and I think a lot of people got behind that
11:43narrative throughout draft season, but I think we've got a new narrative for Chase Brown. The the usage is completely Bellcow. There's lit literally no
11:52pressure on him whatsoever from the RB2.
11:55Like we're not worried at all about those like random Sam per weeks anymore.
12:00And then you also get into Cincinnati, I think, has a real defense. And I've heard a lot of people push back on it
12:06this week where they've said, "Hey, let's see the the Bengals against a real offense before we sort of crown them.
12:13We'll see them against Jacksonville in week four, but I'm sold. I think this pass rush and this front seven and this
12:19defensive secondary are all strong. I understand that that there's some some problems here. Obviously, they let Daltton Schultz uh tear them up, so
12:27maybe the linebackers uh covering tight ends. Uh we saw Bucky affecting them as a pass catcher in week one. Like, they're not a perfect defense, but I
12:35think they're a really good defense for us in fantasy football. And I think they're a good enough defense for Cincinnati to make a really deep run
12:42this year in the AFC playoffs. And I think that's going to eventually help Chase Brown on a weekly basis because it's going to be less of these
12:50Cincinnati sort of trying to get in in high shootout environments, feeling like no lead is safe. And I think they can
12:56lean on Chase Brown. I think it starts this week against Pittsburgh. I think that the Bengals are going to control this game. They're going to win it
13:02somewhere around the 27 to 14, 27 to 17 type score. And I think Chase Brown gives you 25 points. I think Brown's
13:11going to have a very strong fantasy game. and it's going to continue the trend of running backs doing well against this Pittsburgh Steelers uh
13:19defense. We saw Bejon in week one really really dominated as a receiver. We saw Trayvon Henderson rip off a 39yd touchdown run in week two and I think
13:29we're going to continue it this week.
13:30Chase Brown finds the end zone twice, scores 25 PPR points.
13:36>> I like it. Yeah, you said like let's get them a real test. It ain't coming this week.
13:41>> Not this week. They It's very interesting like this the the Bengals are going um like sub packages more than basically any defense where they're just
13:51like even on first and 10 whatever like any it doesn't really matter what you do personnel wise on offense so far it just
13:57seems like they're just like we got the guys up front you know so we can just drop back. Um we don't have to get real
14:02aggressive loading the box at all. They have the lowest loaded box rate. Um so it's like we just trust Dexter Lawrence
14:08and we're just we we've got the big guys up front. So, good luck. And the Steelers have been by far the worst
14:16offense if you just look at like how they've done in these situations where they have to go against like sub packages that are like run on us, you
14:23know? Um they're like for whatever reason just unwilling to, which is weird cuz I feel like the Steelers should have the guys up front to be able to at least
14:31be a decent run game, but instead they just continue to draw back and that's gone horribly. Um so maybe it gets
14:39better this week. But I I don't know. I I like want to play Jaylen Warren where I have him just because he's seems like
14:46he's going to be a usage monster. Could get a lot of targets. Um so hopefully we can just like PPR scam our way to Warren
14:52points. But just in general, I think this could be a really ugly game for the Steelers, which then puts the ball back
14:56in the Bengals hands over and over and over.
15:00>> Yeah, I ranked Warren pretty highly in my flex rankings this week at Rotoire.
15:04It feels kind of dangerous. Um but I do agree with you. If if any Steeler is going to thrive, it's probably him. And
15:10then I'll give a shout out to to Jim Coventry who brought up the Schultz game and then also talked about how Pat
15:17Frymouth has had a history of having strong performances against the Bengals.
15:22So maybe that's him. But it's it's a Chase Brown week and I and we're going to keep an eye on that one. I think
15:27drafters who took Brown in the first round are going to be feeling really good about things after the game this week. Uh, Jacob, we'll continue this uh,
15:35bold predictions and you've got a player that I think's been really frustrating to fantasy managers who were drafting him for his upside outcomes, his
15:42pedigree, and sort of the alpha profile that caused him to be such a highly drafted player. What is going to happen
15:48this week with Carnell Tate against the New York Giants?
15:51>> Yeah. So, let's go with um, a Carnell Tate breakout game. To what extent, it's hard to ever really say um, in terms of
15:59forming expectations for this Titans offense. Um, like on paper I'm like this looks like a good Tony Pard spot. This looks like a good Carnell Tade spot, but
16:06it's like will it matter? I don't know.
16:09Um, what I do know is that on paper the Giants look like one of the easiest defenses to attack all across the board.
16:17Um, so maybe that means we're going to get a freaking Wel Robinson narrative game here. But so far that hasn't really
16:23been a priority for the the Titans.
16:25They've been locked in on Carnell Tate.
16:28Um, we've seen a 30% first read target rate funneled Tate's way through two games, which I'm really encouraged by that feel. Like out of the gate, um,
16:37that feels really good. I thought it was going to be a lot of Wanddale stuff with Tate doing more like field stretching,
16:43sacrificial X stuff out of the gate.
16:45Thought it might take time for him to find his footing, especially given the way that the preseason went, but they've just treated him like the wide receiver
16:52won. Like his first three target rate is higher than the great Jaylen Coker. It's higher than Jaylen Wadd or Christian Watson or even Denzel Boston. Like it's
17:02high. There's not there's no so far there's no Wel Robinson scam happening.
17:05Tate's a full-time player. Leads the Titans with an 81% route rate. Has a 21% target share. That also leads the Titans
17:12and a 40% air yardage share. And so he gets a match up here against the Giants.
17:17No team has allowed a higher catchable target rate on first free throws than well Tate's Titans. They have the highest rate, but the Giants are very
17:25close second. And just in general, they have the highest catchable target rate on the year um on all throws at 93%.
17:32That's what the Giants catchable target rate is on all throws this year, which is insane. The league averages 82%.
17:37Yeah.
17:38>> Um the Dolphins are second at 90%.
17:40They're like by far the highest. So Tate's getting first three targets.
17:45Giants been easy to attack with first three targets. Um, and then the other thing that I like in this matchup is,
17:51and I don't know for sure if I just want to look at the numbers and say this is how it's going to go, but the Giants
17:56haven't gotten pressure this year. Um, I think they have the talent to get pressure. We saw them get some pressure in week one, but last week was pretty
18:05ugly um, across the board for the Giants. So maybe they bounce back here um because obviously the Titans offensive line is not played very well.
18:13Um, but when Camort has gotten the ball out quickly, he actually charts well above league average in terms of accuracy according to fantasy points
18:21data this year. Um, it's pretty rare that we find any split where Cam Ward charts above average and accuracy at this point in his career. Um, but when
18:31he's gotten it out quickly, so I'm looking at 2.5 seconds or less in terms of time to throw, he actually charts
18:36well above league average and accuracy.
18:38And he's funneled 35% of those targets to Tate in terms of the quick targets.
18:42They've been going to Carell Tate more than any player by far. Uh the Giants are bottom third in quick pressures.
18:49They actually rank 28th in pressure rate overall, which shocked me. Um and so again, if you look at like the splits
18:54when Ward has not been pressured, he's been close to league average and he's hammered his first read at a really high
19:00rate. 84% first read target rate when not pressured. For Cam Ward, the league average is 75%. Um all of this, I think,
19:08leads us to Tate potentially. So, we'll say Tate has a top 20 game at wide receiver this week. Is actually a
19:16meaningful player um that you can use, which is much much more than we've been getting from basically any Tennessee Titans through two weeks. So, I feel
19:24good about this matchup. Um hopefully Kim Ward can deliver some accurate balls and we can get get some fun games here
19:30going for Tate.
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20:01Yeah, we had it last week with the Terrence Ferguson breakout. Maybe we can run it back this week with Carnell Tate.
20:06You mentioned that Giants defense. I mean, all of this the stats are going to skew um against them after the Devonte
20:13Adams game. Unbelievable. Adams only had one game last year with over a 100red receiving yards for the Rams and he goes
20:19for nearly 200 against this Giants team.
20:21So, lot of pressure on New York this week, but I would love to see a Carnell Tate breakout. I have a lot of him in
20:28Dynasty. I actually have a good amount in reddraft sitting on benches. I'd love to see some big breakout performance so we could actually build on. Uh so, I
20:35hope you are right.
20:35>> I mean, you've watched a bunch of tape film. Obviously, you don't want to say he's Dvonte Adams, but it's like,
20:39doesn't he kind of win in the way that we saw Dvonte Adams winning last week where it's like he can just go up over
20:43these guys and win?
20:45>> Yeah. Last year, we compared him to Devonte Devonte Adams a little bit. Um, and I think there that was one of the
20:51the comps coming out from like the truly bullish takes for him as a prospect.
20:56There was also some George Pickins comps going out there. So, like um you know, in terms of talent, there's a reason the
21:02guy was drafted so early and I think we're going to see it. It's not going to be an Elic Aman or leading this
21:08receiving room. Um, you know, when we get a couple weeks from now, I think it's going to be Carnell Tate. They've
21:12got to look to establish Tate. It It's just he's got to become the focal point of this offense at some point this year.
21:18For me, you talked about a rookie. I'm going to talk about a couple of old guys. And I'm going to talk about a team
21:24that we're used to seeing dominating that I think we're going to get right back to it. The Kansas City Chiefs. This
21:29we did it last week where we went up against Miami. And I guess I'm I'm picking on what you would probably
21:35describe as the worst defensive secondary in the NFL right now. Um, we went up against him last week in the bold predictions. I said Brock Pury was
21:43going to put up this smash week. That was a check. Uh, I said Mike Evans was going to go with him. Evans was going to
21:48be a top six or so receiver. That didn't work out. So, we got half of the prediction correct. I'm going to double
21:54down. We're going to continue to attack this this painfully bad Miami defensive uh secondary. And we're going to do it with the Chiefs. And I think the Chiefs
22:02have fully got their swagger back and a lot of the talk has been about Kenneth Walker and rightfully so. Walker looks
22:09like the league winner. I think a lot of the Kenneth Walker versus Bejun Robinson talk, people are sort of uh scaling that
22:15back a little bit after what Bejian did on Thursday Night Football, but Walker's still right up there with Gibbs and Bejon in terms of like running back
22:23weapons of mass destruction. And I think Walker does it again this week. He's going to have a 25 plus point in PPR
22:30scoring, but it's going to be the veterans. Patrick Mahomes finishes as the QB2 overall on the week. The Kansas City Chiefs are going to hang 40 points
22:40on the board against the Miami Dolphins.
22:4240. We're right in that one inc. And you're going to see another top five performance from Travis Kelce. And you're going to see a touchdown, another
22:51touchdown from Xavier Worthy. I think he gets loose for a long one. The Chiefs who got their swagger back. They're going to hang the 40 on Miami this week
23:00and then they're going to take care of business next week in Vegas. The Chiefs are going to be 4-0 to start the year
23:05back to normaly and I think a lot of drafters who drafted Kelsey and Mahomes late um are going to be just loving life
23:12after this week. Your thoughts on your Kansas City Chiefs?
23:16>> I love it. I I think it makes a lot of sense. I mean, you said you didn't get the Mike Evans call out last week, but
23:21you certainly got the Brock Pitt one.
23:22That was like one of the best quarterback games we've seen in a while.
23:25It literally looked like Brock Puri could do whatever he wanted. He was just perfect out there. I think we might see
23:31something similar here from Mahomes, who does seem like he's playing better. Um, and the Dolphins have just been unbelievably easy to attack, which is
23:40basically what the expectation was. But that's I mean, that's like complete confirmation through two weeks that that's what this defense looks like. I
23:47just don't think they have the talent unfortunately. like their guys are playing hard, but I just don't think they have the talent um to keep up with
23:55a team like San Francisco or even Kansas City. Um the thing is like I do think this is going to be sometimes maybe a
24:03frustrating matchup where it's like you don't know where the points are going to go. Um I think you can just funnel it to
24:11your first read if you want. And so what we've seen is that's been Kelsey. I think we could see a big Xavier Worthy
24:16game here. They've tried to get him going. Um, but also like I think you could even if you want, if you're
24:22desperate, if you're playing in deep leagues, whatever, you could go with him at Johnson in this game if you want to.
24:26Um, obviously Kenneth Walker is going to get whatever he wants early in the game, but I could see them, they've talked
24:31about wanting to get Johnson in more and and he's earned it and they want to, you know, probably keep Kenneth Walker from
24:38wearing down because I think they clearly have playoff aspirations after a 2 and 0 start. Um, and if ever there were a spot to to just, you know, let
24:45Walker chill after the first two or three quarters, it's this one. And Emma Johnson has been unbelievably good as a receiver, as a rusher. Like, he's just
24:55creating yards after contact like crazy.
24:57People might look at his yards per carry or whatever and not think that he's been that good. But like, if you watch this
25:01guy, he has, if you divi, if you divide his avoided tackle rate or his avoided tackle total, excuse me, by his total
25:09touches, the number is 71%.
25:11Uh Kenneth Walker is like the highest in the league at like 50%. Emma Johnson's is over 70%. He's just been ridiculous.
25:18This is a carryover from what we saw in Nebraska. It's a carryover from what we saw in the preseason. Um I think that
25:24this Miami defense might have their hands full with with Emit Johnson who literally never takes a playoff. It doesn't matter if the Chiefs are up 40
25:30to zero. Like he's going to be playing like his life depends on on every single touch. And I think we might actually get
25:37some usable uh production from him in this game. I've got him at like running back 30. So, it's like after like Tony
25:43Pard, just go with him in my opinion.
25:45He's basically the next up.
25:47>> Yeah, I love that. And I think when we're chasing like these, you know, if you're if you're in a bad spot at
25:53running back, chase a a great offensive ecosystem in a great matchup instead of like chasing like this this potential volume in a bad situation. And I think a
26:03lot of fantasy managers who were using guys like maybe a Marshon Lloyd last night could start looking at guys like Emtt Johnson. We've talked about EMTT
26:11Johnson as a great trade target. Unless the Kenneth Walker manager has Emtt Johnson, try to trade for EMTT Johnson.
26:19He's like the best handcuff in football based on the role that Kenneth Walker has right now and the talent that Johnson has displayed. And Andy Reid has
26:27hyped him up as well. I think they really know what they have in EMTT Johnson. What an improvement talent-wise at the running back position for Kansas
26:34City this year on the two deep. Just unbelievable. Chiefs are going to put up a number this week on the Dolphins. I I
26:42will drop another prediction here. We got to get a your running You've got a good running back one here and a
26:47follow-up from last week, but I'm going to sort of double down with what we've talked about the last couple weeks on on
26:52my shows. Bryce Young and Tyler Shuck.
26:55And I think there's going to be people out there waiting for the floor to f fall fall out from underneath one of
27:00these two guys. And I don't think it's going to happen. I think what we're seeing is real. I think these are both
27:04looking like top 12 options at quarterback. We talked about this on your show the other day. I'm on with Jacob every single week on Mondays over
27:13at Beyond the Box score. Make sure you go check that one out. But we talked about Chuck. We talked about Bryce
27:18Young. I said Bryce Young is going to finish as a QB1 this season. Uh you talked about Tyler Shuck. And I think
27:24we're we're both spot on and I think they do it again this week. Entering week uh three, Bryce Young is the QB2 in
27:31points per game in a lot of formats. And Tyler Shuck is the QB6 in points per game. I think that both of these guys
27:37are going to finish top eight at the position this week. Once again, I think that Carolina goes into Cleveland and wins a really close game. I think
27:46Watson's actually going to look all right and this Browns offense is going to look fine. And I think this is something like a let's call it like a
27:522726 game. And then I think the Saints uh the Raiders are going to do do enough to keep this game interesting, but ult
28:01ultimately I think the Saints win by about a touchdown. I think it's another high-scoring environment. We saw the Saints last week make a statement
28:08against the Baltimore Ravens. I think the Raiders are going to keep it about as close, about a touchdown win for for
28:14New Orleans, but I think it's going to come down to Bryce Young. Jacob and I talked about just how consolidated this
28:20wide receiver room is for him. It's going to be Bryce Young looking to his wide receivers. It's going to be Tyler
28:25Shuck with another game where I think the pass pass attempt volume is going to be outstanding. Another big game for a
28:31lav. Another solid game for Devon and even a little bit more Alvin Kamar out of the backfield. So, I think both of
28:37these quarterbacks are going to be a tremendous spot. Both finished top eight on the week.
28:41>> I like it. I'm a little bit nervous about the Saints line. Um, I just had Dan Fornick on to discuss offensive line
28:47over at Beyond the Box score and they're one of the teams where that that unit has dropped pretty significantly since um, preseason for him. Um, and that's
28:57mostly just due to injury. Um, so they'll have their hands full with Crosby and the Raiders who are are fired up at 2 and 0. This has been I think
29:04this could be a really fun game. Um, and I I think obviously there's clear appeal um, if it does get into a back and forth
29:12game where both these teams are playing fast. Um, and you got two really really smart coordinators here. So, I I like
29:17the idea of um, taking shots on it. I think a is obviously just set to continue to smash. Um, and I think it it
29:24makes a lot of sense to focus on this one for DFS. I'm I'm just I say this every week though, Theo. I feel like
29:29every week I'm like I'm a little bit nervous the Shuck stuff the bottom might fall out or whatever. like he might get
29:34heated up and it might be a problem and it's like nah he just keeps printing. He just keeps printing.
29:39>> Fast forward to week 15. Tyler Shuck is is QB5 of the week. You know, Jacob, I've said this for 14 straight weeks,
29:44but I'm worried about Tyler Shuck this week. Last week you made a great call out. There was a bunch of the Bashel
29:51Tutin faders and non-believers, the doubters after week one pointing to his snapshare. um all kinds of doom and gloom despite him leading the backfield
30:01in fantasy points in week one and you came out here you you rested everybody's worries and concerns and you told everybody that that Tuton would be an
30:10RB1 this week you got it right 12 on the week what do you expect from Bashel Tutin this week against the New England
30:16Patriots >> yeah this is an interesting spot here where um I don't want to disrespect the Patriots defense they've they've played
30:23pretty well um I think they're well coached um but I Jacksonville was really well coached, too. Um, and so we saw
30:30even last week where the Jags didn't end up put up a lot a lot of points. We did see Ton get in the end zone. Um,
30:34continue to see him get a lot of carries. And, um, the Jags are one of the offensive lines that have really
30:40improved in Danforick's rankings. I think that's mostly due to their pass protection. But either way, that's just great in general, like for them to be
30:49approaching like middle of the pack and not like, you know, this could be a, you know, Green Bay Packer situation if
30:55things go wrong. You know, that's kind of how we felt going into the year with the Jags. I think Liam Con has done a
30:59great job coaching that unit up and they're performing well and so that's good and and helps the overall offensive environment and obviously Ton benefits
31:06from that in a big way. Um he's just been fantastic at creating yards after contact, which is something that Cohen really values. And I think we continue
31:14to see more and more touches go his way.
31:16And I think that's going to be the case as long as he doesn't like fumble or anything. As long as he keeps playing
31:20the way that he is. Um he's I mean, if you look after week two, he was right between Jonathan Taylor and Bejian
31:25Robinson in yards after contact in total on the year. Obviously, his per touch numbers were even better than that. Um just wild stuff from Tuton so far. And I
31:35think that this is clearly the vision for him in terms of the skill set, but we just didn't know cuz he got such a
31:40limited role last year. Um, now we're seeing him actually in a full-time or close to it role. Um, not just like kind
31:47of a short yardage role and stuff that he was doing last year and we're starting to see some big plays. We're
31:52starting to see some efficiency and stuff like that. Um, so love that. Um, specifically why I'm interested in the matchup is that this Patriots defense is
32:01one that does not match personnel. So, they use sub packages 87% of the time on first and 10. The league averages 58%.
32:10So, they're going to be showing uh lighter boxes and just in general not as much beef uh around the line of
32:19scrimmage um compared to most defenses.
32:22I'm really curious how Liam Cohen will choose to approach that. For what it's worth, this season um and last season too when Liam Cohen was facing sub
32:31packages on first went very runheavy. Um and so that I think makes sense even though the run game wasn't great necessarily that he um would try to run
32:40into those more pass leaning defenses.
32:43Um and then the other thing that's interesting on this in this matchup is that uh the Patriots have a 41% blitz
32:50rate on first and 10. Uh the league averages 29% just in general they blitzed a lot. Um I look at first and 10
32:56just because I want to try to I mean with a twoe sample size like any can throw it off in terms of the way the
33:03game flow has gone has happened to go in these games whereas first and 10 is more neutral. Um so they they blitzed a lot.
33:09Um I think that that's the way that Stevens wants to play is blitz heavy and aggressive with man coverage and stuff
33:13like that. So obviously to me this feels like a good Parker Washington game again. Um, but also I think it's interesting that we could see maybe more
33:20targets go to to more screen targets.
33:22This is a really niche note, but um, when Liam Cohen has been blitzed, he has more he's dialed up more screens than
33:30any coach since the start of last year against the Blitz. Specifically, he's thrown screens to running backs 53% of the time. The league averages 33%. So,
33:39all of this to me feels like good for Tuton. good usage notes, good matchup notes, and he's just an ascending player
33:46that I'm excited about. So, I want to target him. Even if like the Patriots on paper are like not necessarily a good
33:52match up for running backs have been a pretty solid defense overall, this feels like it could be a good spot for Tuton.
34:00Basically any week where Toutton could get the ball in his hands a little bit more than normal, I want to target him
34:06because I think he I think we're just a week away is how it always feels where it's like we're going to see this long
34:13play from Toton, right, that we just haven't seen quite yet. Um he's given us the consistency and the yards after contact and all of that, but we just
34:19haven't really seen like the play that we know is in there. Um what if it's this week? you know, if it's this week,
34:23then all of a sudden he's instead of running back 12 like he finished last week, maybe he's freaking running back two or three, you know, like if he gets
34:30that long run. Um, yeah, I'm intrigued by both him and your boy Trayvon Henderson on the other side of this in
34:36terms of the explosive play ability and the ability to get this game heated up a little bit with some of those long runs.
34:42We're here for it. I I wish I would have dropped a a great bold prediction for Trayvon, but uh Bashel Tutin the stat
34:48sort of bouncing around on X this week that I thought was interesting. is he leads the NFL in runs over 15 miles per
34:55hour. There's so much charting data this year, but he's got like 12 12 of them and I think Jir Gibbs had what like
35:01nine.
35:01>> I think Jib is second eight. Yeah, >> eight or yeah. So eight. Um so Tutin's like right there. We're just we just
35:08need one of them to to rip off. Jacob, it's like take it to the house on like a big run. Maybe something similar to what
35:14we saw from Trayvon last week. And also what I think is interesting is the total targets to running backs this year. They
35:21only have six targets to the running back position. We would love to see uh a Tutin week where maybe he catches three
35:27or four balls. I think that could happen. Only three catches on the year.
35:31So, uh Tutin is a really good player for you to trade for. I had him on the trade show yesterday. Make sure you go check
35:37that one out as well. Final prediction for me, and you know I had to do it.
35:41Anybody who followed my content all offseason long. Uh it's Brock Bowers week. Brock Bowers returns this week.
35:48Brock Bower's eight catches, 125 yards, and a touchdown on 11 targets. And guess what? Kurt Cousins hasn't been bad this year. He's been good. Cousins has six
35:58touchdown passes this year. I think he finds Bowowers for a touchdown this week. Um, we don't see quite the JSN experience, but I think this is a ramp
36:07up game. I think we're going to see true usage smash weeks for Bowowers in the upcoming weeks where you'll start seeing
36:13a 14 target game here, maybe a 15 target game there. And I think we will actually see like the dream scenarios for
36:20Bowowers. But this week, it's going to be enough to get people going. Brock Bowers finishes as the tight end one overall in the week ahead of Trey
36:30McBride.
36:30>> My dynasty teams need it so bad, Theo.
36:33Please, please be true. Um on Tune, by the way, I'm going to say top 10 running back. I've got him at running back 18.
36:38I've got him above Bucky Irving who has like even better usage. Um I've got him above I'm already in Hampton. I'm
36:43curious what you think about this. Don't him and Hampton map out really similarly in the ways that they get touches. I
36:48know Hampton has the better probability I would say of getting to like 20 plus touches or something like that as we saw
36:54last week. Um but like in terms of where their value is coming from, it's like we want explosive plays. We're not getting
36:58it really from the Chargers at all. Um we want red zone work. We want touchdowns. There's not been a ton of
37:04receiving for either of these guys. Um, so really just hoping for a big play or something in the run game and just like
37:11getting there from from volume. Um, I see them pretty similarly this week.
37:15Vegas sees the two teams pretty similar this week. Um, do you have any thoughts on those two? Cuz I think Hampton is
37:20people are clinging to this like running back one. Hope for him. Um, I've got a running back 21 this week.
37:26>> Yeah, it feels really like tenuous when it comes to Omar and Hampton where the volume was terrific last week. I think
37:32they're trying to force feed him the ball. He's got the two touchdowns in two weeks, but the yardage numbers are very
37:37similar to Toutton. Um, and the offense, we feel so much better about Jacksonville. So, I think Tutin's a little bit overrated as a fantasy asset
37:46right now, especially in reddraft. And I think Tutin is a little bit underrated.
37:50I think that, like you said, they're closer as commodities than maybe most people that are rostering Hampton would like you to believe in. Um, a lot
37:58changes from the time we're drafting and we've got a ton of worries about those Chargers. So, let's do a quick rundown
38:04of our bold predictions before we get out of here. For accountability sake, Jacob all over Daltton Schultz this week. Thinks it's going to be a top five
38:12week for him. I said Garrett Wilson is going to have a smash week this week.
38:16Uh, big easy wide receiver one score for him. Jacob has the same enthusiasm level for Devont Smith. I say Chase Brown is
38:25going to have 25 PPR points, two touchdown scores against the Pittsburgh Steelers. We're looking for a Carnell Tate breakout game according to Jacob. I
38:35am here for it. Uh we talked about the Kansas City Chiefs. I said that the Chiefs are going to score 40 points this
38:41week. Um this is going to be another Walker game, a huge Mahomes game. He's going to finish as the QB2. Kelsey top
38:48five tight end. Jacob wants you to consider EMTT Johnson as a spot start if you're down bad at running back. He's um
38:55he's his RB30 on the week. And then I said that um that Young, Bryce Young and Tyler Shuck are both going to finish as
39:03top eight scorers at the quarterback position. And then Brock Bowers, I wrote in the show sheet, I just went back into
39:08it. I said top two tight end this week, but I am upgrading it. Tight end one overall on the week. Brock Bowers, Trey
39:15McBride managers are going to be in shambles when they see Bowers. Now, Trey McBride managers, you're in great shape, but Bowers does edge him out this week.
39:22Both players go for 20 plus. Uh Jacob, where can people find your work? What do you have coming out before the start of
39:27the game Sunday?
39:28>> Check us out at Beyond the Boxore, YouTube, uh Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. But, um, we're putting a lot of, uh, effort into the YouTube
39:35product, too, to make that good where you you've got cool visuals to go with all this. Just did a deep dive on the
39:40fantasy data, uh, suite. Um, fantasy points data suite 2.0. Um, they've got such a cool product, Theo. You know me, like I I saw this and I couldn't help
39:49myself. Just like had a manic episode was in there for like 6 hours. Um, so it's overwhelming the amount of stuff
39:55that's in there, but that's really cool.
39:56You can do these player comps and everything. So, I've been digging into like what the usage has been for these players so far, like what type of routes
40:03they're running, where they're how their teams are using them and wanting to get the ball into their hands, and then like
40:07how that compares to other players to give people just a better idea of what we're looking at with Devon Vele or what
40:13we're looking at with Denzel Boston or whatever. Um, in terms of how likely it is to continue and stuff like that. Um,
40:19so you can find those usage videos on Beyond the Box where we do that every Wednesday. And then we also have live
40:24chats on Tuesday and Thursday at 11:00 a.m. Eastern time if you ever want to come hang out in the chat with us. Um,
40:30we do like Start Sits and stuff. I know you do that here, Theo. Um, I was watching your Start Sit Show yesterday
40:34and I was seeing some familiar names.
40:36So, love that. Love that we've got the crossover here between the two channels.
40:39Having a lot of fun doing two episodes each week with you.
40:42>> Yeah. Make sure you check out everything Jacob's doing. Beyond the Box Score is fire. Um, and make sure you stick with
40:47us here. I'm going to drop a couple more shows before the start of the games on Sunday. We're going full volume approach
40:52right here at Rotoire, trying to help you crush your leagues this season.