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WRs Ready To Breakout in 2026 Fantasy Football (Matt Harmon)

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Jul 19, 2026
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Nico CollinsJaylen WaddleZay FlowersLuther BurdenJalen CokerRome OdunzeCourtland SuttonEmeka EgbukaJayden HigginsRashee RiceAmon-Ra St. BrownBo NixChristian WatsonColston Loveland
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Amon-Ra St. Brown

PositiveRole0:37

St. Brown became a full-field WR1 by improving his ability to get open quickly against man coverage and becoming weaponized around the goal line.

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Amon-Ra St. Brown is mentioned as part of an upcoming batch of big-name veteran player profiles being released at the end of the month on Reception Perception.

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Bo Nix

PositiveProjection0:17

Could rise his career ceiling together with Jaylen Waddle, similar to how Josh Allen elevated with Stefon Diggs in Buffalo.

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PositiveProjection0:20

In QB2 range with significant improvements made offensively over multiple seasons; the Jaylen Waddle trade represents a major push-the-chips-in move for a team close to a Super Bowl.

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Brian Thomas Jr.

NegativeBust0:32

Brian Thomas was a huge ADP loser in 2025, exemplifying the year-two disappointment trend that burned fantasy managers last season.

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Bryce Young

PositiveProjection0:34

Bryce Young showed extremely good efficiency out of empty formations in 2024 with more attempts than the previous year, suggesting the Panthers' spread-field approach could work well for him.

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C.J. Stroud

PositiveProjection0:05

While Stroud had a bottom-10 playoff success rate since 2007 last year, he was still a top-10 quarterback in EPA per play, ranking between Patrick Mahomes and Sam Darnold.

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Chris Braswell

PositiveRole0:33

Braswell as a vertical stretch receiver in two-wide receiver sets could help McMillan by clearing space and improving the Panthers' offensive efficiency.

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Chris Godwin

PositiveRole0:31

Chris Godwin is positioned as a power slot receiver who will alternate between flanker and slot roles with Emeka Egbuka, allowing Egbuka to operate in the Z receiver role.

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Christian Watson

PositiveProjection0:13

Christian Watson is among a group of big name veterans who will have player profiles dropped at the end of the month on Reception Perception.

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PositiveProjection21:49

Christian Watson is mentioned as part of an upcoming batch of big-name veteran player profiles being released at the end of the month on Reception Perception.

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Colston Loveland

PositiveProjection0:21

Year-two tight end being gravitatied toward over Rome Odunze due to foot concerns with the latter.

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PositiveRole0:26

Loveland would move up significantly in the offense if one of the top three receivers misses time, making him part of an offense worth taking shots on.

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Courtland Sutton

NegativeValue0:19

The ADP range he goes in is problematic; he has a higher floor than guys 10 positional spots after him but no higher ceiling, making him a pass in drafts.

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NegativeRole0:19

As a non-elite X receiver, it's hard for him to dominate targets consistently, especially with Bo Nix's operating areas and Sean Payton's preference for using speed Z slot receivers like Waddle.

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NegativeProjection0:20

Several tiers below Jaylen Waddle in explosiveness and career trajectory; trending downward while Waddle's career is trending upward.

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PositiveRole27:36

Courtland Sutton is expected to hold down the primary X receiver role in Denver's offense, with Jaylen Waddle moving to an off-ball position.

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Drake London

PositiveRole0:31

Drake London's route tree and role as a Z receiver/big slot receiver is used as a comparable for Emeka Egbuka's expected role in the Buccaneers' offense, where both run high-percentage breaking routes like digs and posts.

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Emeka Egbuka

PositiveProjection0:29

Egbuka is ranked as wide receiver 14 and there is significant bullish sentiment on him looking more like the player seen at the beginning of the year rather than his second-half performance.

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PositiveBreakout0:29

Egbuka is positioned for a year-two breakout after playing through a hamstring injury last season while miscast as an X receiver. New offensive coordinator Zach Robinson views him as a Z receiver, which aligns better with his skill set as a big slot receiver prospect, allowing him to run high-percentage breaking routes similar to Drake London's role.

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PositiveProjection0:29

Egbuka is ranked as wide receiver 14 and is viewed as a great bet to explode in year two from a production angle, with the analyst very willing to draft him at his current ADP.

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PositiveInjury0:30

Egbuka played through a hamstring injury last season, which was a massive variable in his mid-season decline, separate from Baker Mayfield's injuries and the Buccaneers' offensive line issues.

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Garrett Wilson

PositiveProjection21:57

Garrett Wilson is mentioned as part of an upcoming batch of big-name veteran player profiles being released at the end of the month on Reception Perception.

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Jalen Coker

PositiveProjection0:00

Matt Harmon notes JSN had the highest individual team target share of any wide receiver since 2015 at over 35%, comparable to elite seasons by DeAndre Hopkins and Michael Thomas, demonstrating unprecedented volume dominance.

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PositiveProjection0:01

Harmon believes JSN has the talent to maintain a 30+ percent target share in back-to-back years, similar to DeAndre Hopkins' track record, and is not concerned about Brian Flores' coaching change disrupting his elite role.

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PositiveRole0:02

The bigger concern for JSN is not the coaching change but whether surrounding young players like Tory Horton, Rashid Shaheed, and Elijah Arroyo take steps forward and potentially disrupt target distribution.

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PositiveProjection0:03

Host takes a bullish approach on JSN, noting his 119 catches, nearly 1,800 receiving yards, and 10 touchdowns demonstrate elite talent, and recommends targeting him in the second half of the first round.

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PositiveMatchup0:04

Seattle's running back situation changing from Zach Charbonnet and Kenneth Walker to J'Mar Jefferson Price with George Holani and Emmanuel Wilson creates a more wide receiver-centric offense, which could benefit JSN if the running game is slower early.

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PositiveRole0:33

Coker is a talented receiver who was extended by the Panthers and is part of their wide receiver-heavy offensive investment.

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Jalen McMillan

NegativeProjection0:31

Jaylen McMillan was injured for the vast majority of last season, limiting his opportunity to develop and contributing to uncertainty about his year-two outlook.

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Jayden Higgins

PositiveRole0:08

Higgins is a nice player but not a massive volume commander, suggesting limited impact on Collins' target share in the Texans offense.

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PositiveRole0:09

Jayden Higgins is favored to play more snaps than Jaylen Noel based on archetype, and played well when used at Z receiver.

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Jayden Higgins has size-speed comparability to Nico Collins but is not as flexible or good at getting out of breaks against man coverage.

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Jayden Higgins has useful historical comparisons including Kenny Golladay, Tim Patrick, and Adam Thielen, with best work in the intermediate area as a Z receiver.

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Jaylen Waddle

PositiveRole0:16

Moving off-ball for the first time in years with Courtland Sutton holding down the X role, which will lead to more layup targets and yards after catch opportunities.

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PositiveProjection0:17

Expected to have a career year from a production standpoint in the Broncos offense, reminiscent of Stefon Diggs' trajectory when traded to Buffalo.

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Could rise his career ceiling together with Bo Nix, similar to how Stefon Diggs and Josh Allen elevated each other in Buffalo.

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PositiveProjection0:18

Career high of 150 targets is in the wheelhouse for him in Denver, making him one of the easiest players to talk about in this range.

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PositiveRole0:20

Jaylen Waddle represents a major commitment from the Dolphins offense, described as a 'huge push the chips in move' for a team that was very close to a Super Bowl last year.

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PositiveValue23:56

Matt Harmon considers Jaylen Waddle "the most mispriced wide receiver in fantasy football right now," noting he's ranked WR21-25 in early ADPs despite strong efficiency metrics and an upcoming volume boost in Denver.

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PositiveUsage25:41

Despite playing for the Dolphins last year, Waddle ranked 8th in first downs per route run (200+ routes), 12th in yards per route, and 11th in successful targets per route, demonstrating elite efficiency that will be amplified by Denver's higher play-calling volume.

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PositiveRole27:06

Waddle is moving from playing as the primary outside receiver in Miami to an off-ball role in Denver with Courtland Sutton holding the X position, which should lead to more layup targets and yards-after-catch opportunities.

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PositiveProjection28:22

Harmon projects Waddle to have a career year in the Broncos offense, comparing his situation to Stefon Diggs' trade to the Bills, with expectations he will "absolutely cook" given the volume boost and role change.

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Jaylin Noel

PositiveProjection0:11

Jaylen Noel is really talented and will likely be frustrating because he doesn't see the field in two receiver sets, but can make big plays on post routes and corner routes.

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PositiveValue0:12

Jaylen Noel is available in the 18th round on Underdog and represents a really fun value pick, with the idea that he's a complete zero from that range feeling unlikely.

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Kalif Raymond

PositiveDepth Chart0:25

Raymond is listed among the other wide receivers on the Bears roster alongside Zay Flowers and Thomas.

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Kenneth Walker III

PositiveRole0:39

Kenneth Walker brings explosive plays to the table and should significantly improve the Chiefs' run game, which had a 2.9% explosive rushing rate (dead last in the league) over the last two seasons.

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PositiveProjection0:40

If clicking the button on a Kansas City Chief, Kenneth Walker is the preferred choice this year over Rashee Rice, as he brings explosive plays and can improve the Chiefs' historically poor rushing attack.

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Ladd McConkey

NegativeBust0:32

Ladd McConkey was a huge ADP loser in 2025, part of the year-two disappointment trend that burned fantasy managers last season.

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Luther Burden

PositiveBreakout0:20

Luther Burden is widely favored and viewed as a year-two breakout candidate, with Ben Johnson hyping him consistently and his role viewed as potentially more fantasy-friendly than Rome Odunze's.

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PositiveProjection0:20

Ranked at wide receiver 22, everybody seems to be in on him as a year-two breakout candidate.

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PositiveRole0:24

Ben Johnson consistently hypes Luther Burden every time he talks about him, making him an attractive draft target based on coaching enthusiasm.

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NegativeBust0:25

Luther Burden did absolutely nothing in the playoffs and was kind of a mess in the playoffs as well, despite putting up big numbers at the end of the regular season.

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PositiveUsage0:25

Burden put up strong fantasy numbers in the second half of the season and has massive contingent upside if another receiver misses time; he will likely replace DJ Moore's role in Ben Johnson's downfield attacking explosive play offense.

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PositiveRole0:28

Burden is miles better than Rome Odunze with the ball in his hands and has rare ability to break tackles, making him the preferred option when breaking ties between the two receivers.

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PositiveRole0:36

Burden is compared to Zay Flowers in terms of role and body type, though they differ in how they operate within their respective offenses.

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Mike Evans

PositiveDepth Chart0:30

Mike Evans' absence last season forced the Buccaneers to cast Emeka Egbuka as an X receiver, a role that didn't fit his skill set as a big slot receiver prospect.

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Nico Collins

PositiveValue0:04

Nico Collins is going as wide receiver 9-10 (end of second round) in most formats, but Matt Harmon appears to be higher on him than consensus, suggesting league-winning potential at his current ADP.

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PositiveProjection0:04

Collins is ranked around WR9-10 (end of second round) but has league-winning potential; the bull case is simply staying healthy and playing all 17 games.

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PositiveUsage0:05

Since 2023, Collins is 2nd in the NFL in yards per route run, 10th in targets per route run, and 6th in first downs per route run—elite efficiency metrics that show he's been one of the best receivers in football.

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PositiveRole0:06

Collins is an elite man press coverage beater and true X receiver putting up best-of-league efficiency numbers without being moved around like Puka Nacua, Amon-Ra St. Brown, or CeeDee Lamb.

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PositiveBreakout0:07

Collins could be the next JSN-type breakout if the Texans scheme becomes more diverse and he gets moved around more in his second season under Nick Caley.

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PositiveUsage0:07

When two or more tight ends were on the field last year, Collins had a 36% targets per route run; with the Texans drafting a blocking tight end in round two, expect more two-plus tight end sets this year.

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PositiveProjection0:08

Everything except health checks the boxes for Collins to finish as WR1 overall if everything breaks right, or at minimum finish within the top three.

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Nico Collins could finish as receiver one overall if everything breaks right, or at minimum finish within the top three.

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Collins has spike-week ability and has posted back-to-back 17 PPG seasons, last year at 15 PPG with near 25% target share and 15 yards per reception, showing consistent elite production.

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PositiveUsage0:08

Collins has had back-to-back seasons at 17 points per game, last year at 15 PPG, with near 25% target share last year and 15 yards per reception.

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PositiveProjection0:09

Analytically, Nico Collins has been a really strong performer, with a 2023 season featuring elite yards per route run comparable to Tyreek Hill.

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PositiveProjection21:49

Nico Collins is mentioned as part of an upcoming batch of big-name veteran player profiles being released at the end of the month on Reception Perception.

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Rashee Rice

PositiveRole0:39

Kenneth Walker's addition to the Chiefs offense should change the complexion of the passing game, potentially reducing Rashee Rice's over-inflated target total as the team can rely more on the run game.

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PositiveUsage0:40

Since 2023, Rashee Rice has the lowest air yards per target (4.69) among 112 receivers with 600+ routes, indicating he's used as a manufactured short-area target rather than a traditional receiver, which is unsustainable long-term.

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PositiveProjection0:40

Analyst is out on Rashee Rice this year and has him ranked lower, concerned that the addition of Kenneth Walker to the Chiefs offense will reduce Rice's inflated target total.

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Rome Odunze

NegativeProjection0:20

More polarizing than teammates, with some people not loving him due to foot concerns and gravitating toward year-two guys like Loveland and Burden instead.

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PositiveValue0:20

Rome Odunze is undervalued relative to Luther Burden despite strong early-season performance; in the first eight weeks of last season he was WR11 in PPG, 19th in yards per route run, and 15th in yards per game, trailing only Amon-Ra St. Brown, Michael Pittman, DeVonta Adams, and George Pickens in touchdown catches.

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PositiveInjury0:21

Odunze's foot injury concerns are somewhat overblown; he is a full participant in offseason practices and his head coach says he looks great, though the injury did impact his timing and chemistry with his quarterback when he tried to play through it.

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PositiveProjection0:23

Odunze could very well end up leading the Bears in receiving yards and targets as a really good player who thrives in multiple roles, not just as an X-only receiver in Ben Johnson's offense.

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PositiveProjection0:24

Odunze put up huge fantasy numbers at the beginning of the season; the timing of his production (weeks 1-7) rather than later in the season may have artificially depressed his perceived value.

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PositiveInjury0:29

Rome Odunze's dramatic season splits were compared to Emeka Egbuka's, with Odunze's decline attributed to a multiple absence with a foot injury.

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Stefon Diggs

PositiveProjection28:22

Harmon compares Jaylen Waddle's trade to Denver with Stefon Diggs' trade to Buffalo, suggesting a similar career-year trajectory, though noting Diggs was a better player in isolation at the time.

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Tank Dell

PositiveRole0:11

Tank Dell was a pure outside receiver when healthy for Houston and could rotate into the number two receiver spot if healthy, though this is a significant uncertainty.

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Troy Franklin

PositiveUsage0:19

At times was getting targets in Denver last year due to Bo Nix's operating areas and Sean Payton's preference for speed Z slot receivers.

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Tyreek Hill

PositiveRole27:06

Tyreek Hill's presence in Miami forced Jaylen Waddle to play as the primary outside receiver, limiting his efficiency despite strong per-route metrics.

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Xavier Legette

PositiveDepth Chart0:33

The Panthers are not giving up on Xavier Legette despite their investment in other wide receivers.

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Zay Flowers

PositiveDepth Chart0:25

Flowers is listed among the other wide receivers on the Bears roster alongside Kalif Raymond and Thomas.

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PositiveValue0:35

Zay Flowers is currently at WR15 in ADP and could fall slightly, becoming a value pick given the depth at wide receiver this year.

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PositiveProjection0:35

Flowers has potential for positive touchdown regression with only five career touchdown catches and could see increased target volume if the Ravens become more pass-happy.

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PositiveRole0:36

Flowers is a highly productive receiver who excels in man coverage situations and zone beating, checking all the boxes for advanced fantasy metrics on a per-route basis.

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PositiveRole0:36

Flowers has improved his drop rate and is now better at winning quickly against press coverage, similar to how Amon-Ra St. Brown became a full-field WR1.

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PositiveRole0:37

Zay Flowers has improved at winning quickly against press coverage and beating man coverage in the short area, similar to how Amon-Ra St. Brown developed into a full-field WR1.

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PositiveProjection0:37

Analyst wonders if Zay Flowers is underrated for a potential 7-8 touchdown season under Declan Doyle's offense (which comes from Ben Johnson and Sean Payton's tree), which could make him a top-six fantasy receiver.

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PositiveValue0:38

Zay Flowers has risen in draft capital from end of fourth round in early drafts to late third round in FFPC drafts, though the analyst still likes him despite some competing options around that range.

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Full transcript

Episode Transcript

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0:05Talking fantasy football 2026 with Matt Harmon of Yahoo and Reception Perception. Matt, last year you were very high on JSN. You really were like
0:16one of the more bullish people about a potential JSN breakout with like a increased usage role as the clear end wide receiver one in that offense. What
0:26are your thoughts on JSN this year? It's been a little bit of a mixed bag. When I talk to smart people like yourself, some
0:31people still very much in on JSN as a potential wide receiver one overall. And then there's people a little bit apprehensive about Brian Flores taking
0:39over for Clint Kubiak, the loss of the offensive coordinator. Where do you stand with JSN as you start to develop your rankings at this time of the year?
0:48>> Yeah, well, first of all, if he has any level of regression coming for him, it wouldn't be like a massive surprise just
0:56because what he did last year from a volume hog perspective is pretty unprecedented. You go back to 2015, he has the highest individual team target
1:04share of any wide receiver since 2015.
1:06He's at like 35, I believe over 35% off the top of my head. The other guys that are close up there with him was like
1:14one a DeAndre Hopkins season, a Michael Thomas season, the the record-breaking reception season for Michael Thomas there.
1:21So and and there's actually a pretty healthy gap between JSN and the two and three spot there. Now, Hopkins was one
1:26of those guys that did hold down a 30 plus percent target share. He's like in the top five a couple of years there as
1:33DeAndre Hopkins. So it's not unprecedented that you would see a guy do like a 30 plus percent target share in back-to-back years. And I do think
1:41JSN from a talent perspective is able is is able to do that. I think really the the bigger question Theo is
1:47less about Brian Flores and cuz I think look Kubiak is a really really good play caller and you know, he he pushed almost
1:56all of the right buttons last year from like a scheme perspective, the way they designed things, how they could get to
2:01multiple looks out of the same personnel grouping. I mean, there will be several times where they're in these heavy personnel looks and then they fully
2:09spread the field with those guys. It was it was a really tough offense to defend and I really give Kubiak a lot of credit
2:16for that, but I do think Brian Flores, you know, is an unknown, but comes off the same coaching tree, has a really
2:21diverse background and I think will keep a lot of those same principles involved in the offense. I think there's a reason that he was hired off the same
2:29tree, all of those things. The bigger question to me is less about the coaching and more about just the surrounding players here.
2:36Um, does Tory Horton take a step forward in year two? Does Rashid Shaheed with the full off-season and off of a
2:40contract extension get more in the more involved in the mix here? A.J. Barnes is a really good player, but does like
2:46Elijah Arroyo take a step forward? Like, there is kind of quietly a lot of young players around and JSN's a young player
2:53in his own right, but a lot of young players around JSN and Cooper Kupp in the back end here that could take a step
2:58forward and maybe disrupt the distribution. To me, that's the biggest factor, I think.
3:03>> It's super interesting and I think people are overthinking it a little bit.
3:06Like, you don't do what JSN did last year without being a truly elite talent and sometimes we overthink these 119 catches, nearly 1,800 receiving yards,
3:1610 touchdowns. I'm I'm going to take a bullish bullish approach with JSN. I think anytime you get him in the second
3:23half of the first round, that's a great way to start your draft. If you want to split hairs, like I just had Rich Reebar
3:29on, he has Amon-Ra St. Brown ahead of JSN this year. Like, I think that's okay. We're not like, you know, like ripping our hair out trying to like
3:37explain away that take. Everybody understands what the Sun God is, but I think JSN, it's not a player to fade.
3:43Brian Flores also, there's been some pretty decent vibes with him. Just cuz it's an unknown doesn't mean it's going to be a a I think that's one thing that
3:51we need to also understand. There's been some of these guys who taking over a team that just won the Super Bowl, in my
3:57opinion, he's going to try to keep things pretty steady from the way they were. And I think one variable that we
4:03are not really playing into is Seattle had [clears throat] Zach Charbonnet and Kenneth Walker on day one last year. This year it's going
4:11to be J'Mar Jefferson Price with probably a little bit of George Holani and Emmanuel Wilson mixed in. It's going to be a little bit more even potential
4:19for that's even more wide receiver-centric with JSN leading the way. I think that could be a variable if the running game is a little bit slower
4:26out the gate than we were used to in Seattle. So, I'm completely with you on on JSN. I think he's got
4:32a ton of talent and I think he's a player that we can still rank very, very highly. Let's keep it going. There's one
4:37wide receiver that you seem to be pretty high on versus consensus and it's a player that it sort of just stays there
4:44and I think people are viewing him a little bit more as a structural pick, but does Nico Collins have league-winning potential? He's going as
4:52though around wide receiver nine, wide receiver 10 in most formats right now, which equates to about the end of the second round if you're playing on like
5:01Underdog or FFPC. What do you think a bull case season looks like for Nico Collins this year?
5:07>> I I actually think it's pretty simple.
5:09Like just stay healthy, play all 17 games for Nico Collins. That would be the bull case for him because he's really already done it from a production
5:16standpoint. Since 2023 when CJ Stroud arrived, he's second in the NFL in yards per route run, 10th in the NFL in
5:22targets per route run, and he's sixth in first downs per route run. Like he has been one of the best receivers in
5:27football from a production standpoint since CJ Stroud got drafted. And obviously, that's a big part of this, too. I think I do think Stroud, there
5:35are things he needs to get better at.
5:36There's no question about that, but I also think our memory of Stroud is overly tainted by the last thing that we
5:42saw because the last thing that we saw was one of the worst playoff performances for a starting quarterback since 2007. He's a He's got a bottom 10
5:50success rate for any quarterback that started multiple games in the playoffs since 2007. That was what we saw from CJ Stroud last year. So, I get it. It was
5:57about as bad as it possibly could get.
6:00And I would say that the other moments we saw in primetime like the Seahawks game for CJ Stroud was really disappointing. All that said, he was
6:07still a top 10 quarterback in EPA per play last year sandwiched between Patrick Mahomes and Sam Darnold.
6:12Obviously, that's one of the best quarterbacks of his era and a guy that won the Super Bowl last year. So, and by
6:17the way, like Collins is doing all of this with Stroud as the starting quarterback for the vast majority of these games. So, I don't
6:24think that Stroud is this inhibiting variable even if you aren't as I'm not going to say I'm high on CJ Stroud, but
6:31I am not as worried about him as most people are. Even if you kind of fall lesser than where I'm at,
6:38Collins has already shown he's been able to produce really high-end if not elite wide receiver production in that in that kind
6:45of role with CJ Stroud in this Texans offense. And you know, I I think he's an elite receiver. I think he's a top five
6:51talent at this position. You could sit down and maybe rank him and he comes in at six or seven or whatever, but he's
6:57definitely at the caliber of a top five receiver. I think he's an elite man press coverage beater. He does all this
7:03by the way, not you know, no disrespect to these guys, but not getting moved around like a Puka Nacua or an Amon-Ra
7:09St. Brown or even a CD Lamb. Like he's playing real deal true X receiver putting up these best of league efficiency numbers. What if this year,
7:18second season under Nick Caley, Jayden Higgins' second season, you know, Collins gets moved around a little bit more. The scheme is a little bit more
7:26diverse. Or, you know, while you you you brought up JSN to start this whole conversation, Theo. And everybody's kind of chasing the next JSN, right? Like who
7:34who is it Ladd McConkey? Is it Luther Burden? Are one of these teams that's going to be playing a bunch of heavy
7:38personnel packages?
7:40What if it's Nico Collins? Like and I think that he's a guy that is again talent-wise able to put up that
7:46production and my colleague at Yahoo, Joel Smith, pointed this out in one of his really good videos. When there were two or more tight ends on the field last
7:55year for Nico Collins, which wasn't very often because this team actually barely played any multi-tight-end sets. They actually played a lot more jumbo with
8:03six offensive line, but they drafted a blocking tight end in round two. Collins had a 36% targets per route run when
8:10there was two plus tight ends on the field. I think there will be a lot more two plus tight end sets this year. I
8:15think [clears throat] Higgins is a nice player, but not a massive volume commander. So, yeah, like everything to me other than the health question, which
8:22is a persistent thing for Nico, I think he checks all the box to be a boxes to be a guy that could finish as the wide
8:29receiver one overall if everything breaks right and if not, just finish within the top three.
8:33>> You make a really strong bull argument and I think it's interesting when you mention just stay healthy, people just sort of brush that one aside, but he has
8:40that spike week ability that you never know. Did he miss out on a potential pair of 30 point weeks that would have
8:46made his season even more legendary.
8:49He's had multiple good seasons in a row where we you know, we we keep expecting him to sort of take that next step and
8:55now it almost feels like a post-hype sleeper, but he had back-to-back seasons where it was 17 points per game for back-to-back years. Last year he was at
9:0215 points per game. Last two years at 24 plus to in terms of his his target share. I think he was near 25% last year
9:11and he's been at 15 yards per reception and we all remember it with I think it was the 2023 season when he had that
9:18insane like yards per like yard yards per route run season where it was like Tyreek Hill and him. So, analytically Nico Collins has always been a really
9:27strong one there. Do you have a a bet you're making for a secondary receiver in Houston where it seems like Jayden
9:34Higgins there's enthusiasts and then there's also some people, you know, sort of talking up maybe uh Jaylen Noel, maybe a Dalton Schultz. Is there a
9:42secondary receiver that you think could also be a player that sees our starting lineups at some point this season?
9:48>> I'd like to place bets on both of those guys or like place some chips on either with not being too over indexed on one
9:54or the other. I think just based archetype wise, Jaden Higgins is the favorite to play more snaps than Jaylen Noel. And I was a
10:02little lower than consensus on Jaylen Jaden Higgins as a prospect, and I was higher than consensus on Jaylen Noel.
10:08So, I'm trying not to let my like prospecting bias here come into play, which also that kind of also tells you
10:14like which type of receiver I like more than the other, but I still thought Jaden Higgins was a perfectly fine day
10:19two draft pick and was a guy that I think actually played pretty well the more they used him at Z receiver.
10:25Because I don't think that Higgins, even though he, and this was kind of how the draft pick was build, is like, "Oh, he's
10:30a guy who can play a ton of He basically is Nico Collins, right? Like size speed wise, they look pretty similar, but Nico is
10:38just so flexible and is able to get out of those breaks against man coverage that Jaden Higgins is really not quite
10:44as good at, but if you look at like some of the comparable players for him, we have this new tool on Reception
10:50Perception where you can use historic data bit the historic database and go through everything and see kind of how guys, you know, sort of like who are
10:58their most comparable cases of players I've charted previously. Like he does have some pretty useful comparisons like a Kenny Golladay. If he ends up being
11:05more of a vertical X receiver, he could be like a Kenny Golladay type. I actually think one of the couple more
11:11interesting ones are like Tim Patrick and Adam Thielen, and I don't think those would be like the guys who people think of for for Jaden Higgins, but I
11:19actually kind of like that usage for him as more of a Z receiver who moves around, and I thought he did his best
11:24work in the intermediate area when playing in that role. But I also think Jaylen Noel's really talented and will be probably one of those guys that's
11:31frustrating cuz he doesn't see the field in two receiver sets, but when he's out there can make big plays and kind of
11:37operates in the area in terms of those big post routes and corner routes that CJ Stroud had a really good connection
11:43with Tank Dell when he was healthy. And Dell is a variable in here as well because, you know, despite what people
11:49think because of his size, like he was a pure outside receiver when he was healthy for this team. So, like there's
11:54definitely a chance that it's Nico and then if Dell is healthy, which is a huge if, and I don't even know if I want to
12:00bet on that. All three of those guys kind of rotate that number two receiver spot.
12:04>> Yeah, it's an interesting it's an interesting passing game to take shots on because I do think there could be a
12:08point where there's a secondary pass catcher that we're like using as our wide receiver three, maybe in our flex.
12:14I'll say Jaylen Nowell is really really interesting cuz you can get him in the 18th round on Underdog. It's such a
12:19small bet to make and the idea that he's going to be a complete zero coming out of that that range. It feels like he's
12:25going to have a number of usable weeks.
12:27How usable it remains to be seen, but I think among like 18th rounders, he's a really really fun click. Let's keep the
12:33conversation going, but before we do that what do you have going on this time of year? I mean everybody knows Reception Perception. Yahoo, you guys
12:40made some some big news last week adding adding Hayden and Josh. What is like your schedule looking like these days podcast wise and in terms of the work
12:49getting rolled out?
12:50>> Uh brother, I'm so excited about this season. On at both outlets. Reception Perception right now continuing to roll out player profiles keeping the dynasty
13:00rankings updated. Right now I've got everybody from year one to year four on the site, but there's several more drops to come including at the end of this
13:09month where I'll have a bunch of like big name veterans including Nico Collins who we talked about, Christian Watson will be
13:15among this group of players dropped.
13:17Garrett Wilson, Amon-Ra St. Brown, a ton of big names coming at the end of this month. And then over at Yahoo, yeah man,
13:22adding Hayden and Josh could not be more fired up about it. Like this Yahoo fully doubled down on fantasy football this
13:29off-season, which, you know, I love to see. I'm really excited about it. I'm excited to integrate both of those guys into our show and also, you know,
13:36integrate into their show a little bit as well, too. So, very excited about it, man. I respect the hell out of both
13:41those guys and, you know, it's going to be so fun to work with both of them. So, yeah, I mean, listen, there's a lot of a
13:46lot of really good fantasy content out there. I'm pretty excited about ours and I think people will love it.
13:52>> Yeah, no, you you do a fantastic job and so do those guys and I'm looking forward to the collabs as well.
13:57Let's keep the conversation going here with the wide receiver spot where we constantly talk about wide receivers on new teams. We had a chance to chop it up
14:05earlier this off-season and we talked about the enthusiasm level for Jaylen Waddle. Where are you at now on him? Is it sort of growing?
14:14He's Every single guest I have on seems to like Jaylen Waddle, yet the ADP is staying super affordable. He's currently the wide receiver 23. I feel like I'm
14:25talking about him every single show, so I'm just going to going to step back and let Matt cook a little bit. You can find
14:30my opinion on Jaylen Waddle on like any of my last five episodes. So, go for it, Matt.
14:36>> I think Jaylen Waddle is the most mispriced wide receiver in fantasy football right now. And for the record, I've thought this basically since he got
14:44traded to the Denver Broncos. Like, as soon as he got traded there, I launched him up my dynasty rankings way, way
14:50ahead of consensus there and then I just thought there would be more enthusiasm for Waddle, but, you know, you like you said, you start to see the
14:58early ADPs coming out and he's like wide receiver 21 to at one point 25 and it's just I I don't get I don't get that at all. I
15:07think there's a couple of things that people misunderstand here. The first is, and I think this kind of comes back to
15:12our Nico Collins point, you know, he's one of these guys that's a little bit of like a post-hype sleeper, maybe, in that
15:17Waddle has he he's burned people, I think, from a fantasy football perspective. There's there's no doubt about that. And some of that has been
15:24because of injuries. Like he's kind of constantly on and off the field, you know, with nagging things here or there.
15:29And that's something to monitor. I'm not going to completely wave that away, right? Like they if if it doesn't work out for Waddle, maybe it is an
15:35injury-based thing. But I think the two other things that people misunderstand about him is one just how damn good he is. Like
15:41this is a really, really good wide receiver. Like from a reception perception standpoint, absolutely. Man press coverage, zone coverage, like he's
15:48a really, really high-end route runner that wins at all three levels of the field. And even from production standpoint last year, he ranked eighth
15:55in first downs per route run among receivers with 200 plus routes, 12th in yards per route, 11th in successful targets per route. And then he's about
16:04to get a massive volume boost this year as well. Like I the Broncos were fifth in plays per game last year. The Dolphins ranked dead
16:12last. Like that's why he didn't have this massive raw stat season after Tyreek Hill went down. But the efficiency was up there among the best
16:20receivers in the league. And that is all while, and this is the other part of the Jaylen Waddle equation I think people
16:26misunderstand Theo, is that Jaylen Waddle, ever since Tyreek Hill got to Miami, has had to play as the outside on ball
16:34receiver. Like the primary X in this offense. Even if the Dolphins offense is a little bit, you know, kind of fun
16:41house mirrors, like blends some of these player deployment and and traditional personnel spots at the wide receiver position. He still is primarily outside
16:49on ball is Jaylen Waddle. In Denver, he's about to move off ball for the first time, you know, in years because
16:56Courtland Sutton is going to hold down that role. And that's going to lead to more layup targets. It's going to lead
17:00to more yards after catch opportunities.
17:02I just think he is about to absolutely cook in this Broncos offense. I think he's so well set up to have a career
17:09year from a production standpoint. It really does kind of remind me of when the Bills traded for Stefon Diggs. Now, I thought Diggs was a better player than
17:16Waddle, you know, in isolation at the time cuz I was probably the biggest Diggs fan on planet Earth based on his reception
17:24perception charting at the time, but you know, he was a guy that was going to a third-year quarterback who, you know,
17:29was a little hit or miss in his first couple of years, I think to put it kindly. And you know, Bo Nix I think is
17:33is good. I thought Josh Allen was good coming out of his second year, but I think these are two guys who could
17:38actually kind of rise their career ceilings together here with Bo Nix and and Jaylen Waddle just like the Bills did with Stefon Diggs and Josh Allen.
17:46>> You're not the only one to sort of to make that comparison. Davis Webb also made that comparison. So, it's like
17:52>> I love it.
17:52>> Davis Davis Webb came out and said that one. Um that's that's awesome that you brought it up. And if you think about
17:57like the trajectory for Diggs, Diggs was coming off of like a high-end wide receiver three season. It was him and Thielen in Minnesota. And then he gets
18:07to Buffalo. He was like a sixth-round pick. So, there's a lot of like parallels here. And when we think of what Jaylen Waddle is, he has 142 target
18:16under his belt, but that was his rookie year when it was like a lower adot role, kind of ton of passes around the line of
18:21scrimmage. He hasn't had another season with more than 117 cents.
18:27I feel like Denver there's a chance that we see a career high. I think 150 targets is in the wheelhouse for him,
18:33which makes him one of the just the easiest players to sort of talk about in this range.
18:37Here's the devil's advocate. There's some smart people out there that I don't necessarily agree with that are sort of on the this makes Courtland Sutton the
18:45value. Uh therefore, like this is going to be stylistically going to create some matchups for Courtland Sutton and Courtland Sutton's production could be
18:54close to Jaylen Waddle's. I think that's a little crazy considering what they gave up for Waddle, the age difference, and sort of what Sutton was last year
19:02where guys like Troy Franklin were challenging him at times usage-wise.
19:06Where do you stand on that one? Does your enthusiasm for Waddle make you a little bit pessimistic when it comes to
19:12Sutton, or is he still a guy you'd consider, Matt?
19:16>> I think the problem with Sutton is just like it's less about him and more of the ADP range that he goes in. I just don't
19:22find I think he has a higher floor than the guys who go maybe 10 positional spots after him, but I don't think the
19:28ceiling is any higher than the guys who go right after him. So, I just kind of end up passing on that range of wide
19:33receivers in drafts and typically going for the next tier down. But, I think the you hit the nail on the head there when
19:39you brought up the Troy Franklin example. Like I think Courtland Sutton is was clearly the best wide receiver in Denver last year, but Troy Franklin at
19:48times was getting those targets just because of one, like kind of the areas that Bo Nix likes to operate in. One,
19:54and and then two, kind of the way that Sean Payton wants to use that speed Z slot receiver, which is the role that
20:00Waddle's going to play in. It's just really hard to dominate targets consistently when you're a non-elite X receiver, which is what Courtland Sutton
20:07is. He's an X receiver and he's definitely not on the elite tier. I just think Waddle is several tiers better than Sutton, more explosive, and his
20:14career is still I think trending upwards. Sutton is unfortunately going the other direction.
20:17>> Yeah, I'm with you on that one. Sutton I've mixed in some in best ball. I don't see him as a guy I'd target in redraft.
20:25Interested in Bo Nix though. I think Bo Nix is an interesting player right now.
20:29He's sort of in a in a this QB2 range, and I don't think enough is being factored in about the improvements that
20:35they've done offensively for him multiple seasons now, and this is a huge like push the chips in move with Jaylen Waddle for a team that was very close to
20:43a Super Bowl last year.
20:45Let's continue talking wide receivers, and we'll go with a pair of teammates here. We talked about Jaylen Waddle at wide receiver 23, Luther Burden right
20:53next to him at wide receiver 22. Like everybody seems to be in on Luther Burden right now. And then Rome Odunze
20:58at wide receiver 29, a little bit more polarizing, where there are some people sort of not really loving the the with
21:05the foot, and then gravitating towards the year two guys in Loveland and Burden and sort of a dude say being viewed as
21:13kind of a structural maybe even a purgatory pick in his range. Do you think that it's a dude say is a great
21:19value or you gravitating towards Burden or you open-minded to drafting both of them?
21:24>> I am open-minded to drafting both of them, but um I think that the answer here is just these guys should be a lot closer
21:30together than where they are right now.
21:32I don't really see why there should be this massive gap between between Luther Burden down to Roma Odunze. I mean I think that if you look at the first
21:39eight weeks of last season, here there's a honestly Theo, I'm I actually would love for you to push back on me on this one
21:46because I'm I'm a massive Roma Odunze fan and and I want to know if I'm compromised here.
21:50Um but I think that a lot of the arguments that are pushing Odunze down outside of like the questions about his
21:56health because while I don't see that it it's this massive negative just because like here's here's the reality like if he had never said the new normal thing,
22:04would we even be talking about the foot?
22:05I would guess not because he's a full participant not in offseason practices.
22:09His head coach says he looks great. I don't even think it would be a talking point, but I think because he said like
22:14one transparent thing, it's at least worth monitoring. I don't want to completely yada yada that, but I think other than that, the arguments against
22:22Odunze just don't really stand up to merit here. I mean in the first eight weeks of last season, he was a wide
22:27receiver 11 in points per game. He was 19th in yards per route run. He was 15th in yards per game and he trailed only
22:33Amon-Ra St. Brown, Michael Pittman, DeVonta Adams, and George Pickens in touchdown catches. Like the breakdown the breakout was very much happening and
22:41you know, kind of one of the pushbacks you hear about Odunze is well, he was inherited by Ben Johnson whereas he
22:46proactively picked Luther Burden and Cole Kmet. Well, yeah, the guy he inherited was the ninth overall pick in the draft, has really good film in my
22:54opinion. And then he ran his entire passing game through him in the first part of the season. Now, there's no question obviously Burden wasn't fully
23:01ramped up. Loveland wasn't fully healthy yet, and I don't know that Odunze would have been wide receiver 11 through the entire season, but he very much had the
23:09individual breakout before the foot injury, which then just kind of ruined his entire season. He tried to play through it. It That was really costly to
23:17him, mostly as he told me in February, more so with his like timing and chemistry with his quarterback, which you could certainly feel.
23:24So, then he gets back. He eventually misses time, gets back healthy. Just was never really right last year. And I I
23:30think the question for him is just like what the usage looks like individually.
23:33I do think Burden's role might be more fantasy-friendly, which is why I don't want to totally like push it. And I
23:38think Burden's awesome player in his own right. So, I don't want to like completely push him to the side here, but Burden's My enthusiasm for Burden
23:46doesn't, I think, mean we have to push down Odunze, who could very well end up leading this team in receiving yards and
23:51targets cuz he's a really good player who thrives in multiple roles. Like, that's the other thing is he's not just an X-only receiver in Ben Johnson's
23:59offense. Nobody really just fell into like one bucket last year. Like, the slot guy, the X, the Everybody kind of moved all over the
24:06place to create explosive plays.
24:08>> It's a really interesting argument to have. I'm I'm definitely team Burden right now. You talk about Luther Burden and sort of like the First of all, Ben
24:16Johnson is hyping him any chance he gets. Every single time he talks about Luther Burden, it makes you want to draft Luther Burden. I do agree with you
24:23that I think maybe I was a little bit punitive because Rome Odunze was like so so open with us about the foot. And he
24:30looks awesome running on the treadmill, for sure. And he was out on the field.
24:34There was like the clip of him, I don't know what miles per hour it was at the on the treadmill, but he was going
24:39pretty fast. And >> Yeah.
24:41>> I I think Odunze, like, you talk about the it's sort of like the Emeka Egbuka corollary, where we've seen him put up
24:48huge fantasy numbers. They just happened to be at the beginning of the season.
24:52And what would we have thought of Odunze if he started out last season slowly and then put up those weeks 1 through 7
24:59numbers at the end of the season. I think we'd probably be a lot higher on him. So, he's very interesting.
25:05>> Well, isn't that mostly the argument for Luther Burden, right? Is like he put up the big numbers at the end of the
25:09season. You know what I'm saying?
25:11Although nobody like remembers that he did absolutely nothing in the playoffs and actually was, you know, kind of a mess in the playoffs as well. Not that I do
25:18do they was doing much either. Really was like DJ Moore ironically enough who's not longer on the team. But that's the thing here. Like I don't think you
25:24have to participate in the culture war of like, oh, it's this guy or that guy cuz it's pretty much going to be these
25:29three guys. You know? Like it's going to and I don't think that one of them will just run even even close level I don't
25:36think we'll just like run away with the target leader here. I think it'll be pretty spread out between these these top three guys.
25:42>> It's that's a really interesting take.
25:44Like sort of when you look at the the other wide receivers they have on the roster. Guys like Kalif Raymond, guys
25:50like Zay Flowers Thomas. I think that I do do they and Burden both have like massive contingent upside where if one
25:57misses time, the other would would go into like this huge role. And then it on the on the same flip side, Loveland
26:03would also move up. I think it's just an offense that we want to take shots on.
26:08When you sort of look at Luther Burden and again, the sample size of him putting up strong fantasy numbers was a
26:14lot smaller than I do do they too. But when you look at Luther Burden, do you see potentially Amon-Ra St. Brown type usage light with
26:24maybe some like Jameson Williams stuff mixed in? Or is it like a new archetype?
26:28Cuz people always gravitate towards like Ben Johnson offense finding like guys that have thrived in it previously. And like through your research on reception
26:37perception, when you look at Burden, do you think that this is going to be something where it looks like something in the past or is it something brand new
26:45in this Ben Johnson offense?
26:46>> I think it's going to be something brand new. Like that's been my thing.
26:50I think really I always try to push back against the like this role in the offense cuz usually like the Amon-Ra St. Brown role
26:58was created cuz Amon-Ra St. Brown is really good, you know, and like they built the role around what he does. And
27:02by the way, like that's been a moving target for Amon-Ra St. Brown throughout the course of his career. Like his rookie season looks very and and even
27:10like the back half of that rookie year when St. Brown was cooking looks very different than 24 and 25 Amon-Ra St.
27:16Brown. So, I don't think that role really exists in this offense either because the quarterback is extremely different. Like this offense in Chicago,
27:24like if you watch it and then versus like what they did in in Detroit under Ben Johnson, like there's obviously it's the same play caller.
27:31There's a lot of shared DNA, but this is a very very downfield attacking explosive play offense, which I think is really interesting for Luther Burden.
27:42Couple of the comparables that come up for him for from a reception perception standpoint, it's like and this is like the least sexy comparison in the world,
27:50but like it's Robert Woods from the Rams offense, which people are like, "Oh, Robert Woods?" No, that's pretty that's pretty good. We had some great seasons
27:56out of Robert Woods. We had some awesome seasons out of Robert Woods. Like Chris Godwin with the Bucks offense, but not
28:02the like current like the current version of Chris Godwin, like the Tom Brady version of Chris Godwin. Yeah, he's getting a lot of screens as an and
28:09designer touches, but he also was a real impact downfield receiver as well. So, I think that's the thing with like Burden's usage last year and some of the
28:20like catchable target numbers and stuff.
28:21Like that's going to change and it should change because if he's going to fit into this explosive play offense, which I think he basically is going to
28:28replace what DJ Moore was last year. And DJ Moore is running like a very downfield offense downfield route tree, but also getting a lot of screens. Like
28:36the one area where I think that Burden is just miles better than Rome Odunze is with the ball in his hands. And like he
28:43he's like got rare ability to break tackles. So, I think if you are breaking ties in favor of one or the other, you
28:49know, I do think that Burks going to get a lot more of those like designed targets and screens and stuff like that,
28:54but I think his route tree will be much more vertically based than some of the stuff we've seen out of St. Brown in
29:00recent years.
29:01>> Let's talk about Emeka Egbuka, who's up to wide receiver 14. It's been another player like it's becoming kind of comical cuz I anytime I'm talking wide
29:09receivers and I've had a lot of like very smart wide receiver guests, a lot of the conversation uh pivots towards Egbuka, player that I'm very very high
29:17on this year. Wide receiver 14, um and I think there's a lot of people very bullish on him, looking a lot more like
29:25the player we saw at the beginning of the year than over the second half of the season. Where are you at with him?
29:31Uh how enthusiastic are you about a huge year two breakout?
29:35>> I've gotten more enthusiastic the more I've thought about it. Um this is where being like a total receiver dork uh
29:41comes in handy here is that I just think there's a couple obviously last year Emeka Egbuka starts off the season unbelievably hot and then went about as
29:51cold as anybody. I mean, his splits were almost as dramatic as Rome Odunze, except there wasn't like a multiple you know, absence with the foot injury like
29:59we saw with the Odunze.
30:00Egbuka played through a hamstring injury though. I think that's a massive variable here. In addition to Baker Mayfield being banged up and people
30:06don't talk about this enough, the Bucks offensive line was just never what it should have been last year either.
30:12Tristan Wirfs banged up to start the year. Like Graham Barton was one of the best centers in the NFL and he was
30:15playing left tackle to start last season. In addition to just other injuries Cody Mauch, like other injuries across the offensive line. So, I think
30:23just health luck could go the way of the Bucks and therefore trickle down to Egbuka this year, but to me the biggest
30:28variable and this is where the receiver dork part of this comes in, I don't want to get carried away with like one coach quote, but Zach Robinson
30:35saying that he sees Emeka Egbuka as the Z receiver in his offense was so refreshing to hear because the other problem for Abuka last year is
30:44that he played so much X receiver outside on ball. Over 70% of his snaps outside in his game sample for reception
30:52perception, over 60% on the line of scrimmage because they had to replace Mike Evans last year. And and Mike Evans is like the X receiver of all X
30:59receivers. So, they basically just threw their talented rookie into that role cuz Chris Godwin was coming back and he can't he definitely at this point of his
31:07career can't play in that role. Jaylen McMillan was also hurt uh for the vast majority of last year. And then their
31:13third receiver was like a combination of Sterling Shepard and Tez Johnson. And like Tez Johnson weighs 150 lb. He ain't playing X receiver. Sterling Shepard,
31:23year 10 in the NFL, he ain't playing X receiver. So, I think Abuka got thrown in that role last year and it just sort
31:28of wasn't very fitting for his skill set cuz he was like a big slot receiver prospect coming out of Ohio State. So, I
31:35think him going back into this Z receiver role where he's off ball, he's moving around, so he's going to take some reps in the slot, some reps
31:42outside. That works really well with what Chris Godwin does as the power slot. Those guys will kind of alternate between flanker and slot, which is
31:48perfectly fine for both of them. But for Abuka, he's going to run a lot of these high percentage big inbreaking routes in
31:54Zac Robinson's offense.
31:56If you look at like Drake London's route tree and Abuka's route tree, like where he wins and think about those big plays
32:02he's making on, you know, digs and posts, that was pretty much what Drake London was doing when he was operating in this Z receiver {slash} big slot
32:10role. So, um I just think Abuka is a really great bet to kind of just explode in year two from a production angle. Uh
32:18I also have him as like wide receiver 14 and very willing to draft him where he goes.
32:22>> Yeah, I'm I think I'm going to have a little I'll just slightly higher than they are and I want to get as much
32:26access as possible. It's like when we're searching for players in this range, I think that we're also in a in a really
32:33good environment to invest in these year two guys because last year fantasy managers got burned on the year-two bet, which has been historically a great bet
32:41for us to make. Like Malik Neighbors last year gets injured, Brian Thomas a huge ADP loser, Ladd McConkey a huge ADP
32:47loser. But I think this year like specifically Burden and and Ihmir Smith-Marsette and then McMillan's interesting. We we didn't really put him
32:55on the sheet. Are are you kind of, you know, in or out on McMillan this year, kind of open-minded to him when looking
33:01at sort of the big three year-two guys?
33:04Uh we I've heard some bullish takes like Pat Kerrane on him, but then there's some others who are just scared to death
33:09about the offense as a whole, potentially Bryce Young. Uh where are you at?
33:14>> Open-minded, but wish he wish he went later, honestly, for Terrace Marshall McMillan. Um I really like Jaylen Coker.
33:21I also think they're one of these teams that are going to go away from the trend, which I think is actually going
33:25to be good for Bryce Young. And what I mean by that is I think this is the team that could really like spread the field
33:31with with a ton of wide receivers.
33:33They're very invested in their wide receiver position. Obviously, Terrace Marshall McMillan was the 10th overall or was a top 10 pick. They extended
33:39Jaylen Coker, who's a baller. Like I'm one of the biggest Coker heads that you would know. Um they take Chris Braswell
33:46in round three. They don't really want to give up on Xavier Legette. I actually think Chris Braswell um being in the mix is key for Terrace
33:53Marshall because he can kind of be that vertical stretch receiver that clears space for Terrace Marshall, which I think I remember I I talked to McMillan at the
34:02Super Bowl and he was like, "Look at what, you know, look at what these offenses do for JSN. Look at what these
34:07offenses do for Puka Nacua. You got to move your number one receiver all around." Which, you know, in my experience talking to players for the
34:12last 10 plus years is like that means I want to do that. Let me do that. So I actually think that will happen more for
34:18McMillan in year two, which I think is good. Um the question is just like Bryce Young, obviously. Now, I do think Bryce,
34:25his his efficiency out of empty last two years ago in 2024 was extremely good. He actually had more attempts out of empty. That's when there's just
34:33nobody else in the backfield with him.
34:34It's all like wide spread everything out.
34:37He actually had more attempts in 2024 out of empty than he did last year, which is crazy cuz he got benched in his
34:42second season and he mostly played the full season last year. So, I kind of go both ways on on this whole Terrace
34:48Marshall McMillan thing. Like I could talk myself into good outcomes. I could also talk myself into outcomes where he's just a really really frustrating
34:54pick because he's surrounded by other good players, because Bryce Young is Bryce Young, but I want to be open-minded to the Panthers
35:02offense as a whole and therefore obviously their number one receiver.
35:05>> Yeah, it's an interesting one. I think having a cardio guy like Brazil, if that could end up being the outcome in like
35:10two wide receiver sets, would certainly help him a lot more than than having to deal with like Coker.
35:16It's an interesting offense where Pat made some really strong bull cases on McMillan is just has this alpha profile.
35:24We saw enough last year.
35:26And I wonder where his ADP is going to sort of settle in. Right now it's sort of in that mid-range wide receiver two
35:32land, but there's just so much conviction with drafters on other guys right now. You wonder if McMillan could fall just slightly that he starts
35:39becoming a value. Wide receiver is really deep though this year. So many guys to talk about. Let's quickly talk about Zay Flowers who's up to wide
35:46receiver 15 in ADP. Um obviously the Declan Doyle offense could end up being a benefit to him if they become slightly more pass-happy. And
35:55then he's always one of these guys where we look at positive touchdown regression. He's never had more than five touchdown catches in a season. And
36:04potentially, if they become a little bit more pass-happy, could it be that the target total goes up a little bit? Never
36:11had more than 118 targets in a season.
36:14Where you at on Zay right now?
36:17>> I think Zay is kind of become like very underrated as a receiver.
36:22He's super productive. He checks like all the boxes that the want from the fancy stats, you know, per route and everything like that.
36:29Um, he's I think a really good player in isolation. He beats man coverage. He's actually one of the best zone beaters uh
36:35in Reception Perception for each of the last three seasons. I think he and I I also think he's kind of cut out some of
36:40the mistakes in his game. Like he had a a real and it's not completely perfect.
36:45Like he'll still have like fumbles and stuff like that, you know, poorly timed drops, but he really cut the drops down
36:51last year. He's good in contested situations. He's a guy to me that is more like Amon-Ra St. Brown than like Luther Burden is. His body type,
36:59they're very, very different uh but just like from a role standpoint cuz he gets some of those layups in the short area.
37:04He was better about that, like winning quickly against press coverage. That was the thing that I thought Zay got better at from year one to year three,
37:11certainly. And that really actually to me is how Amon-Ra St. Brown became the full field wide receiver one that he is
37:18now is that he got really much more he got better and was more weaponized like around the goal line because he could
37:25quickly get open against man coverage, which he wasn't really good and that's why I'm saying like St. Brown role, like what are we talking about? Is it this
37:31current version or is it the early version of his career? Because now he's this real good short area man press coverage beater cuz his release package
37:39is so good. His quickness is there. And I think Flowers has gotten into that ballpark as well. So yeah, the key for
37:45him is just touchdowns, but Declan Doyle obviously comes off the same tree as Ben Johnson. He's with Ben Johnson last year. He comes from Sean
37:52Payton's tree, which is where Ben Johnson's offense kind of finds some of its original uh fingerprints and origins and everything like that. So I do wonder if we're
38:01underrating, you know, a potential what? Like seven, eight touchdown season for Zay Flowers? And if he hangs on everything else, like what what is that?
38:09Is that like a is that a top six receiver in fantasy? I mean, he kind of he was that guy last year. He was the
38:15what? He was like wide receiver seven, right?
38:17>> Yeah. No, he he and he he had a lot of backloaded production with which some people didn't didn't like. Yeah, week
38:2218. But >> Yeah.
38:23>> doesn't know that it's like not fantasy relevant. That doesn't matter.
38:26>> [laughter] >> Zay Flowers.
38:27>> Yeah, I know. I'm I'm with you. I've always loved clicking the button on Zay Flowers. I had a couple of early drafts
38:33where I was able to get him like end of the fourth round. Talked about this with Mike Shope. Mike Shope came on the show.
38:38We talked about how we were drafting him a ton. And now he's in like these FFPC drafts, he's like a late third. It
38:45really just comes to Zay Flowers is I like him a lot, but there's a couple players maybe around him that might be
38:50players I gravitate towards. Let's talk about Rashee Rice. Uh this is another kind of polarizing click for people. The Chiefs offense could look very different
38:58this year, Matt.
39:00>> Yeah, I think it it has to look really different cuz if it looks like it did last year, that's bad. Like this was not
39:05a good offense relative to expectations last year. And one of their biggest things to fix that was to get Kenneth Walker in the mix. And I think that
39:15Kenneth Walker sneakily I think actually I mean it it has to change the complexion of their offense and has to change the complexion of their passing
39:23game as well. Over the last two seasons combined, Kansas City had a 2.9% explosive rushing rate on running back runs. That was obviously dead last in
39:32the league. The The two teams ahead of them for 31st and 30th were at 5.3%.
39:39So they're like several standard deviations down at 32 is Kansas City. So their run game was obviously pathetic.
39:46They bring in Kenneth Walker who is one Say what you want about him. He brings explosive plays to the table. And I do
39:54wonder if that ends up kind of changing the complexion of their passing game, which was very like get Rashee Rice these manufactured touches underneath.
40:03Since 2023, I think I think I do think this is like a rather crazy stat. Uh so since 2023, which obviously by the way, that's when
40:11Rashee Rice came in the league. Rashee Rice has been one of the most productive receivers per route in that span. There
40:17are 112 receivers who have run 600 routes since the 2023 season. Rashee Rice's 4.69
40:26air yards per target is 112. So, dead last. The players around him, Greg Dorch 5.23, Malik Washington 5.3, Khalil
40:36Shakir 5.4. Like these are the only guys in that span under six. And you just don't really run a healthy passing game
40:44through this type of player for the long term. And that's not to take anything away from Rashee Rice who's way better
40:49than all of those guys I just listed obviously off there. He's a much bigger, he's faster. He's actually a really, really good zone beater. But he is kind
40:57of in the same archetype of a guy like Khalil Shakir. And the Bills, I mean they use Shakir a good bit, but not as
41:04much as Rice gets used because their run game is really good. So, I do wonder if adding Kenneth Walker kind of changes
41:10the complexion of the run game for a guy like Rashee Rice and hurts his like kind of I think over-inflated target total
41:17relative to his contributions to the offense last year.
41:20>> I think you nailed it. I think if I'm clicking the button on a Kansas City Chief, I want it to be Kenneth Walker
41:24this year. Especially we're talking about a player, you have to use top 36 draft capital on Rice even if he falls a
41:30little bit. And when you talk about that like the 4.69 like average What was he What was the the >> Air yards per target.
41:38>> Air Yeah, okay. That's I mean we're talking about that's basically an extension of the run game. That's like let's use this guy because we can't
41:45effectively run the ball like we want and we'll have this sort of PPR scam. Um I'm think I'm out on Rashee Rice this
41:51year. I have him a little bit lower. And when I look at guys who could get a commanding amount of targets, sort of be
41:58a PPR scam in like their their own light, I look at guys like Chris Olave I can get cheaper. There's There's other
42:04players I can go towards where it doesn't feel like having this huge like change agent like Kenneth Walker is going to be. I think Eric Bieniemy
42:12taking over as the play caller. He seems to really like Walker as well. And the Chiefs paid Walker a tremendous amount
42:18of money. So, Walker for as long as he can hold up is going to be I think a very productive player and a player that
42:24we should be clicking the button on in the second round. Talking about the wide receivers, one player who you were down
42:29on last year as a potential regression guy, A.J. Brown. Now the vibes are getting a little bit better in New England. Do you find yourself sort of
42:38being more open-minded to him now or are you still on there's other guys I want to draft inside of round two?
42:44>> God, I just wish he was like a round cheaper, A.J. Brown, to account for some of the risk that I think we saw last
42:49year.
42:50Now, some of I think of his season last year, especially the beginning, was really hampered by the hamstring injury that he was dealing with at the time. I
42:59wrote about this in his reception-perception profile. If you look at like his first-half success rates and then the back half, like it's
43:06really bad in the first half. It's definitely better in the sec- second half, but it's still kind of a tick down
43:11from prime and peak A.J. Brown. Now, prime and peak A.J. Brown is a top-five top-three receiver in the NFL. So, if
43:18he's in some level of decline, I mean that wouldn't be surprising because he's a 29-year-old receiver with multiple tons of lower body injuries. I mean, he
43:27came into the league with red flags due to his knees. He's getting his knee drained twice every week leading up to
43:33the Super Bowl last year or a couple of years ago.
43:36I wouldn't be surprised if he's in some level of decline. The problem with receiver decline theo is that it just doesn't really follow any particular
43:43rules. Like sometimes, you know, then I wrote about this in the profile, you see examples of a guy like Allen Robinson
43:49where the decline just like like he shows a little bit of signs his prior is is final year in Chicago and
43:54then he just right off the cliff that next year.
43:56And I think that's, you know, a problematic outcome. Dez Bryant's another one that like once it was gone, it was gone.
44:02You know, but then there are other guys like Stefon Diggs that age gracefully.
44:05There are other guys like Keenan Allen who age gracefully. And I do think like for A.J. Brown, I'd like to not see him play X receiver.
44:13I'd actually kind of like to see them continue to use Romeo Doubs there, you know, maybe even keep Keishawn Boutte as
44:18kind of a sacrificial X on the roster.
44:19Kyle Williams was a big-time sacrificial X last year, which is not good for his future outlook if he's going to continue
44:25to play in that role, but might be good for A.J. Brown who actually registered his highest rate of off-ball snaps his
44:33final year in Tennessee with Mike Vrabel. So, I do kind of wonder if that's the role for Brown. I think that
44:38could actually help his outlook this year.
44:40I just am probably never going to be the guy that drafts him in the second round.
44:43Like I think he would to account for the risk-reward factor, cuz there's obviously a reward factor here, I would say he's more of a third-round pick than
44:50a second-round pick, which is just why he's probably not going to end up on a lot of my teams.
44:53>> Yeah, and if for me, I I'm very bullish on A.J. Brown, but I like Drake London more, and A.J.'s flipped him in a bunch
44:59of these uh formats now. So, I I can get Drake London and get a little younger, but I will have some exposure to A.J.
45:05Brown. You make a fantastic point about wide receivers where it's not like this slow drip. It's not like maybe a quarterback or a tight end where you see
45:12like, you know, drip, drip, drip, and then all of a sudden he retires. Wide receiver or these guys go from being
45:19like locked-in stars for us in fantasy to unplayable very quickly. 2024 Cooper Kupp end of the summer was steaming up.
45:28He was like a one-two turn pick in some formats.
45:31Early second, the enthusiasm was crazy.
45:33It was like, "Puka Nacua year two, or do you want to just go back to Cooper Kupp?" And then last year, Tyreek Hill
45:40was like wide receiver 15 this time of the year, maybe maybe a little lower in some formats, but he was like right
45:45around wide receiver 15. Calvin Ridley had steamed up. Both those guys done.
45:49So, like we get so comfortable with guys. I've been singing the praises of A.J. Brown, and there's people who are all over Davante Adams, all over Mike
45:58Evans, but Father Time is undefeated when it comes to wide receivers for the most part, except for like Jerry Rice and a couple guys like that. So,
46:05everybody falls apart at some point.
46:07Talk about a sleeper wide receiver, Josh Downs. Wide receiver 42 right now in ADP 43. I just looked on Underdog, most
46:16recent ADP.
46:17Can he be on the field in two wide receiver sets for Indianapolis and finally have like a season where we saw it in 2024
46:26where there was like some very effective spike weeks where he played well with Anthony Richardson at times and then we saw him doing well and
46:34sort of it was it was like a half the season he put up really big numbers kind of deal.
46:39Ended up with 72 catches that year. Had 68 catches as a rookie. Then last year sort of not a whole lot. Could this be
46:47like a post type sleeper year? And I will say Josh Downs also a free agent.
46:51So, 2027 he could be somewhere else.
46:54You've been a Downs guy for years. Where are you at this year on him?
46:59>> I don't see why he can't play in two receiver sets from a skill set standpoint. Obviously, size is a limiting factor here, but I mean, Theo,
47:06I don't know if you you've seen these the quads on the videos that he's he's he's been in lately. He looks like he's
47:11put a little bit of weight on here. I don't know that he weighs 171 lb anymore. I bet he's a little bit closer
47:15to like 180, which is you know, good enough, okay?
47:19I think that he from a skill set standpoint, he is much more to me in like the Lad McConkey, Tyler Lockett
47:26bucket of receivers and not just like a little pop gun slot. And like Tyler Lockett was a guy who played every down,
47:33you know, two receiver sets, the whole deal.
47:36Um, obviously, if you're thinking about Lad McConkey and Tyler Lockett, that actually might give you pause at um, you know, Lad McConkey's very
47:42inflated ADP. Good player, but like is he ever going to have 140 targets? And I think Josh Downs probably not a 140
47:47target type of player as well cuz he's had injury concerns and everything like that. But, I do really like the way that
47:55even last year there were it's a very limited uh sample size but my colleague at Yahoo tweeted this out Nate Tice where he put a lot of
48:03he put the plays like Alec Pierce and Josh Downs on the field in two receiver sets together and Shane Steichen did a
48:08really good job of kind of designing like slot-ish looks for Josh Downs to get explosive plays on in-breaking routes for both of those guys. And I
48:17think that's you know very possible this year and and if it's not Josh Downs like who's it going to be? Nick
48:22Westbrook-Ikhine like Ashton Dulin I I don't think so. I think Downs is going to be on the field in these two receiver
48:29sets. I think he's a good player that the team really believes in that's why Michael Pittman's not there anymore because of their faith in Josh Downs.
48:36And look with Alec Pierce coming into the year banged up and Daniel Jones also coming in banged up like that deep ball
48:43efficiency might not be there and they might have to kind of look for more layups which will certainly mean more Josh Downs targets.
48:49>> Yeah, I think you you you nailed it with sort of the the environment he's in where the ankle surgery for Alec Pierce
48:55is he slow out the gate and then if Daniel Jones can't like plant and and find Alec Pierce deep downfield maybe
49:03creates a little bit more for Downs.
49:04He's just interesting to me. I don't know about like the ceiling aspect but if I'm searching for wide receiver depth I think he's a really fun click there.
49:11Um you know you get type casted into only talking about wide receivers on a lot of these shows because you do it so
49:17well and make sure you check out Matt's work. It's it's absolute fire. It's going to make you better playing fantasy football but give us a quarterback, a
49:26running back, and a tight end that you think are very good values right now heading into redraft season. We're actually really in redraft season but
49:34people are still trying to formulate their There's everybody's like loving their tiers. They're loving so many guys. Give us a couple of guys that you
49:41think are just easy clicks for you.
49:44>> All right, let's start quarterback here cuz I'm curious just kind of how you're attacking this Chargers offense because you know I came into the off season
49:51being like okay if there's any receiver who's going to be this year's JSN, it's going to be Ladd McConkey." Because like some of the
49:56variables are very similar for those guys. They're sort of slot-ish body types, but because, you know, this was part of my big thesis on JSN last year,
50:04he is like a dominant man coverage receiver. He's so good at beating man coverage. He can go from being a slot to
50:09being an outside receiver, which is, by the way, why I want to keep my imagination open for all of these like
50:14Josh Downs, Jayden Reed types. Like we just watched a great a great receiver go from being a slot-only player to more
50:21than that simply because he was just used more and we saw what JSN did. And I think Ladd McConkey could be that guy.
50:28At the same time, I will also kind of looked at the ADP on Quentin Johnston and seen his annual improvement. Like
50:33people still talk about Quentin Johnston like he's the guy that he was his rookie year when he was one of the worst
50:37receivers I've ever charted.
50:39He's still a very flawed player, but he's much improved. You know, I look at the tight end room. I look at this and
50:44then it just kind of clicks for me.
50:47Maybe we just take the quarterback, right? Like we're excited about, you know, maybe the explosive play potential for Quentin Johnston. We're excited about the
50:53breakout potential for Ladd McConkey.
50:56What if it's just like take Justin Herbert, the guy who distributes the football to all these different players?
51:01And by the way, there's some decent depth in that wide receiver room, too.
51:03Like Trey Harris is interesting. Brandon Thompson they take. Those guys could maybe cannibalize each other a little bit. Again, the guy that's throwing them
51:10the football is Justin Herbert. So I I just look at where he's going and I kind of have been passing on early
51:16quarterbacks in favor of some of these late round quarterbacks and I think Herbert's a really good target.
51:20>> getting that group.
51:20>> No, I'm with you. I've talked about Herbert as an easy easy click. We think this could end up being like a career
51:25year for him. He also had nearly 500 rushing yards last year. So he's displaying like a willingness to run and a little bit of mobility that a lot of
51:34people talked about like his athleticism coming out, but it's been like every year improvement as a runner. We have We could end up seeing like a legendary
51:42efficiency season for him. If this run game is is as effective as we think it could be with Mike McDaniel. Herbert's
51:49got the weapons, he's got the offensive scheme that he could end up with a really high number of passing touchdowns. I don't think we're going to
51:56get back to like 2022 where he had like 700 pass attempts, but the pass attempts I think will be good enough and the
52:02efficiency could be excellent. So, Herbert's a player that I have a ton of an an underdog and I've been drafting in
52:08like FFPC drafts because you can get him in like rounds 10, rounds 11. Then there's other formats like NFFC where I've seen him as like the QB5 because
52:19people are chasing the the stacks and the correlation. Then I sort of pause, but if you're in a format where you're
52:25getting Justin Herbert as like right now he's QB9 on Underdog, I think that's perfect. QB9, QB10, QB11, Herbert is not going to hurt you there and he could end
52:34up being a huge winner.
52:35Um, I think he's a player that you can build correlation with or you can just take him by himself. Um, such a high
52:41floor guy. If And the offensive line Slater, Alt, all the guys they've gotten in the interior, then you look at like
52:48Alec Ingold, they add Kolar, they add in Njoku. You talk about the wide receiver quality there. Add Keaton Mitchell. Like stylistically, they can do everything
52:57Mike McDaniel wants to do. So, totally in there with you. Talk about a tight end here cuz we were in lockstep on this
53:03one and this is a player that I talked about so often that I've had to like pump the brakes a little bit cuz people
53:08at Fantasy Points were making fun of me and then a couple RotoWire people sort of making fun of me for how much I love
53:13Isaiah Likely, but guess what guys? Matt Harmon Isaiah Likely, too, this year.
53:18>> Listen, don't let those guys talk you up.
53:20>> I think Brush the haters off your shoulders, Matt.
53:22>> That's right. Yeah, let your let your Isaiah Likely flag fly, Theo, okay?
53:26Because here's the thing, when you're looking for breakout tight ends or tight ends to outkick their ADP, whatever you want to say, you want to find a guy
53:34who's going to finish second or first, but you know, even second on his team in targets cuz that's just unusual.
53:41Especially like tight ends leading their teams in targets is extremely unusual just cuz of the way that NFL passing games and progressions are set up. You
53:48typically want to find explosive plays to the boundary receivers. I mean, I even asked Trey McBride this at the Super Bowl this past year. I was like,
53:55you know, it's go talk like we just laid out that whole theory for him. Right?
53:59Like typically, we don't see NFL offenses run through a tight end. Why did this offense last year run through you? And he's like, I don't really know
54:06how often I was the first read. I was just getting the football a lot, which I thought was an interesting quote from
54:10the guy who who bested all tight end production last year by a mile. So, it's just unusual to see that tight end be first or second in
54:18receiving targets. But, you look at the receiver core in in New York, and Likely's got a real good shot to do it
54:23here because I love Malik Nabers. He was kind of trending towards being that, you know, breakout tier one receiver, like a
54:31guy to truly be elite last year.
54:33Based on the injury, where where he's at right now, the the tenor and tone around that, I don't know that we're going to
54:38see him in the first part of the season, and I don't think we will see Malik Nabers' best, unfortunately, until 2027
54:43again. I I just That's just like the way I'm preparing to to see it. The other receivers in this room, decent role players, no real needle
54:51movers, could likely lead the Giants in targets this year. I think it's really possible um he could be one of these
54:57kind of classic second contract breakout players at this position, which is kind of like the old rule of tight ends, that
55:04they break out on their second contract after they figure out the game a little bit. So, yeah, I think Likely's going to
55:08be on the field a ton for a coach who obviously knows what like knows what he's good at. John Harbaugh brought him
55:13in here. So, I I do think Likely, outside of the top five tight ends, is a really attractive target.
55:18>> It's such an easy click to make, and you talk about like your classic move tight end. People bring up Theo Johnson as a
55:25negative, or like where Theo Johnson's going to split usage. I actually think it's a positive because if the wide receiver room is what we think it's
55:32going to be, they're going to be in two tight end sets a lot, and Likely can be used almost like a big slot at times. Um
55:39he's had and also it's not a theoretical asset. We've seen him take over a football game before. Um it's just been
55:47a incredibly small sample size, but I think there was a big market for him. He chose to go with his former head coach.
55:53I think there's expectations of usage and I think the production's going to be excellent. I think it's a career year for him.
55:59Could he be tight end six or something like that? I think that's in the wheelhouse and you're getting him right around like tight end 15. Uh so very
56:06strong stuff. Give us a running back.
56:08You've got like some unknown running back no one's ever heard of or used in their fantasy lineup, right Matt?
56:13>> That's right. Nobody's ever heard of this player before. Uh Derrick Henry.
56:17Listen, I'll just admit this.
56:20I'm going to be the last guy on the Derrick Henry bus. All right? When the when the ship is sinking into the bottom
56:25of the sea, I'll be going down with the ship like the captain of the Titanic.
56:29Okay? That's going to be me. I'll be the last guy to give up the ghost on Henry.
56:33But I certainly don't think this is the year to do it. Like this this is the year where you should still be drafting
56:38Derrick Henry who right now has an ADP outside of the top 20 picks and like what's the where are the I know
56:46it's it's obviously he's an older running back the whole deal, but on paper where are the signs of decline from Derrick Henry last year? He
56:53actually saw his yards before contact dip dramatically last year. Went down from 2.4 in 2024 to 1.6 on his runs last year. However, his
57:04yards after contract actually went up by a a slight degree 3.5 to 3.59. So I don't think that there is any real sign
57:13that Henry started to wear down or decline last season. He actually had some of his best games towards the end of the season.
57:19And they didn't bring in any competition for him other than like a rookie running back in Adam Randall who I know my buddy
57:25James Cook really likes, but he's a day three draft pick. Like is he going to come in here and take the crown from
57:29Derrick Henry? I'm going to go ahead and bet against that. So especially if you're building wide receiver heavy teams, if you're one of these in the one
57:35of these formats where you can get a ton of wide receivers in full PPR, you're starting three plus of these guys, I
57:40love having Derrick Henry as kind of that hero RB in those builds cuz I like the offense with Declan Doyle potentially, you know, kind of bringing
57:49a lot of Ben Johnson stuff over, some under center, some zone concepts that fit Derrick Henry very well.
57:55He's a he's he's an outlier. He's always been an outlier. I think he'll be an outlier once again and be a really good
57:59fantasy pick this year.
58:00>> Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, really the only reason to fade him is 33 years old.
58:05>> He's old, yeah. If you're split If you're splitting hairs, Todd Monken was really good for Derrick Henry, but I don't think an offensive coordinator is
58:12going to come in and be like, "We're not using the big dog." And he could also regress in the He could regress in the
58:17touchdown I mean, in the yards in the yardage department and then just score a ton of touchdowns and then you've got
58:22the factor with like if you're out on Lamar Jackson this year or you think Lamar Jackson could at least be a little
58:29bit less unhappy than we've seen for every other year for Lamar Jackson, then that's probably a net positive for Henry as well. So, structurally he makes sense
58:36and and like Matt said, you can draft a Jamarr Chase or Puka Nacua follow or Amon-Ra St. Brown or JSN follow up with
58:43Derrick Henry in round two and sort of build out a hero running back build there. So, really strong stuff. Make sure you check out everything Matt's
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