0:05reviewing a $100,000 entry fee fantasy football league. I'm Theo Griminger, lead fantasy analyst right here at Rotoire. Last night on
0:16this channel, I drafted an FFPC main event team with Abib Agatoba. That's an extremely high stakes format. That's
0:24$2,200 entry. Uh, and this is about 50 times as much. This is a NFC uh, legacy league and it's the first
0:34year they put this together. Uh, really exciting. I've been in Vegas for the live drafts when they have the $25,000 Platinum League and that's always like
0:43an amazing league to watch because it's some guys I draft against and it's a ton of money on the line. I'm usually
0:49drafting in a prime time at that time, sometimes drafting in a super. Um, but they have this $25,000 platinum league that they've had for years. This is sort
0:58of been a slow drip of high stakes fantasy where you've got the $25,000 platinum league in FFPC. You got the $10,000 uh entry high society in FFPC
1:09and now you got this the legacy league.
1:11Uh, and the way that we're heading this this could be like the start of of the beginning where there's people pooling
1:17money trying to get it together, get access to this sort of an event.
1:23$600,000 to the winner. So, you get paid out for second, third, and fourth. I think fourth place gets their money back. So, significant prizes obviously
1:31for second place and for third place.
1:33And then fourth place again, I think I believe it's 100,000 back. So, you break even after putting a ton of uh stress
1:39and and money into it and all that kind of stuff. Uh but a couple of takeaways that I have with this draft. This is
1:45NFC. So, you're three three starting wide receivers. You have a flex. This is full PPR. This is six-point passing touchdowns and this is not tight end premium. So
1:57FFPC you have the tight end premium where it's 1.5 points for a tight end.
2:02Um NFC usually tight ends have been getting pushed down, but it sort of feels like the year of the tight end and
2:08then who drafted in this one. We're not going to talk about which teams they were. I mean, you can figure if you want
2:13to go to the NFC uh and sort of figure out which these guys were, but I will say that there's a couple of managers in
2:19here that I will I will note that were in this draft. Chris Vicaro, watch the show with Chris and I just aired. Nelson
2:25Susa, who I split a team with in the New York Super, that's next Friday live in New York. Uh Nelson and I split a team
2:32in that. That's $2,500 entry. Nelson split a team in this one with Dave Hubard and Steve Gorggalos, which is just three awesome high stakes managers.
2:43Dave Huard has won literally everything.
2:45FFPC, NFC, he's won. Just Google them.
2:48Google Nelson Susa for his his winnings.
2:51And then Steve has really like the last couple years has been really really successful. Um all three of those guys together. Then you've also got Mike
2:58Santos in this one who's one of the best uh NFC managers around every year. Uh I don't know Mike that well. I've met him
3:06before, but I know that I have was leading the NFC Silver Bullet heading into the final weekend and I end up
3:13finishing second. Mike finished first.
3:14That was a very disappointing one. So Mike forever is going to be ahead of me in that 2019 Silver Bullet. Ton of
3:20respect for what he's done. He's put together some amazing teams. Then you got Chris Vicaro. uh awesome awesome drafter. We talked about him. And then I
3:28have to mention Chad Schroeder. Chad Schroeder uh really uh probably the most successful fantasy manager who's ever played. Has won everything. Has won
3:38continually. More skin in the game than anyone and more receipts to prove it.
3:43Like legitimately no hyperbole with all respect to the guys that have done it in FFPC exclusively. uh you know, but Chad
3:49is definitely on like the Mount Rushmore and there's a couple of FF FFPC only guys that we we could recognize.
3:55Obviously, Abibb, the Go Bills guys.
3:58Those guys have won a ton. But you've got a a group of really highly successful, high stakes guys who win a
4:06ton every year. Then this kind of entry fee drew in some just heavy hitters from the gambling world. Um people associated
4:13with CIRCA, the that's where they hosted this event. So really an interesting board. But enough of the preamble. Let's get into it. Again, third round
4:21reversal. If you're looking at the board here, this is third round reversal.
4:24Meaning if you pick at the 12, you pick 24, uh 13, and then you also pick 25.
4:29And meaning if you pick one, you pick one, you pick 24, but then you pick 36 and 37. So there's some unique builds if
4:36you've never paid attention to an NFC board. But uh I watched a lot of the stream last night and it was very
4:43interesting. I really some a couple of surprising picks, not as surprising if you've been following sort of the way things are going in the NFC and we're
4:52going to kind of uncover it right now.
4:54Aman Ross St. Brown went at the And one more thing to add before I start breaking it down. The the there was no
5:00KDS for this. So NFC does a Kentucky Derby style system where you basically uh weigh out your preferred draft slot.
5:09So, if I'm in a NFC and I want the 12, I make the 12 spot like my one and so on
5:16and it goes down to my least preferred uh 12th option. Then they put it all into a blender and you know it goes by
5:23preference and all that kind of stuff.
5:24So, there's a little bit more thinking than like your traditional snake draft.
5:28But this draft, this went nuts. They had fab bidding for draft slots and I believe the drafter at the 101 spent
5:37like 85% of their fab. So like an $850 out of $1,000 fab um in order to get Jir Gibbs. The 102 manager also bid pretty
5:49high to get there. Uh there was a pretty strong bids for four and five and I think you can see why when you look at
5:54the teams. Um there was a bid for the 12 spot. Uh and then so on. So everybody bid to kind of get their preferred spot.
6:02I believe that the lowest amount of fab that a manager used was maybe a 5% to get the 11 spot. Uh so you get a little
6:10bit of an interesting game theory in where you want to pick. Obviously Jir Gibbs for 85% of your fab. I think you
6:17can make an argument for it. He could end up averaging 25 26 points per game this year. Uh potentially have a
6:24unbelievable RB1 overall season.
6:27potential to also catch a ton of passes in this full PPR format. So, I get that one. And then we start looking at the
6:32board. So, usual suspects, Jamir Gibbs, Bejian Robinson, it's that. Every every NFC, every FFPC draft, it's that. Then you get Jamar Chase at the three. Almost
6:42every draft NFC, Chase goes at the three. Almost every FFPC draft, Chase goes at the three. Then you've got this interesting one. Ammon Ross Brown goes
6:51ahead of Puka at the four spot. Now, I will reveal who this one's. This is uh Chris Vicaro came on my show and the
6:58show aired yesterday morning and he said that Aman Ross St. Brown was his dark horse wide receiver one overall. Well, Chris just put 100K behind it. So, this
7:06is not just talking about it. This is skin in the game and this is making a big bold stance that this is year of the
7:12sun god. Aman Ross St. Brown goes at the 104. We've seen it in a few drafts here.
7:17We've seen a couple of analysts move him ahead of Puka Nakua. Nua obviously the off the- field concerns, potential for a
7:24suspension. Um and you know just you don't necessarily rest easy with Puka Nakua with some of the crazy stuff that's come out this offseason. Um Puka
7:33also you know potential to get banged up whatever. Puka I still have ranked ahead of Aman Ross St. Brown. You get access
7:39to that over at Rotoire. I just updated my rankings last night before my main event. Uh they are very locked in. If
7:45you're drafting this weekend, if you're drafting this week, use code Theo35, get 35% off. So, it goes Aman Ross St.
7:51Brown, then it goes Puka, then Christian McAffrey, Jonathan Taylor, then here's the interesting one. Justin Jefferson goes ahead of Jackson Smith and Jigba.
8:02So, we get Jefferson going at the eighth spot and we get JSN falling to nine overall, which is very low for an NFC
8:10league for JSN to go at the nine. I'm still very into JSN, but the drafters here faded him a little bit to a point.
8:19He ends up, I think, becoming a really good value for team number 10. I don't like necessarily what team 10 did
8:28following up JSN where they go [snorts] with three straight running backs. I think you needed to sort of get a little
8:34bit better at wide receiver with one of those picks. Maybe two running backs would have been sort of the way to
8:38handle it. But they do get the gift of JSN at the 10 spot. That could end up being a major difference maker if he
8:45continues playing like he did last year.
8:47And Brian Flurry just doesn't like screw it up. JSN feels uh coordinator proof.
8:53He feels like a player that could put up an unbelievable season. Again, I don't have that much problems with JSN and I
9:00certainly have him ranked very highly.
9:02Um, you go check out my rankings over at Rotoire, but I did also like a article where I released part of them that was
9:08free at rotowire.com and in that one I have Almanra and JSN backto back and I have those guys at five and six overall. So I'm ahead of
9:17where JSN went in this one. Then you've got James Cook, Chase Brown. The Chase Brown's an interesting one cuz Chase Brown goes at 11 overall. We've been
9:26seeing it all week long. I mean, basically, ever since Ashton Genty went down with the injury, it's been two things that have happened. Genty's
9:34fallen to the second round. And in this one, he goes up a little early. I mean, not like crazy early, but he goes at the
9:41203 in this one. We've been seeing Genty fall to like the 209, the 208, the 210, as people are sort of a little worried
9:48about maybe week one, week two. But, but what Genty falling to the second round has done is it's made James Cook
9:56completely locked in. James Cook never falls to round two anymore. Uh if you see James Cook falling into round two in
10:01like an FFPC or NFC, that's an aberration. That's not a usual occurrence. And then you've got Chase Brown uh sort of is settled in as this
10:10late first round pick. It's an interesting conversation because Chase Brown has been so good for us in fantasy the last two years, but you're talking
10:18about 15 16 points per game the last two years. Now you're paying uh really if he scores like he did last year cumulative
10:28not like with Burrow. I get the splits.
10:30I I know about the splits everyone. But if he scores like he did collectively for the last two years then that's not
10:38that much of an edge at the 111. You're basically needing him to beat that number by two or three points for him to
10:45be a quote unquote league winning value.
10:48Talking about the structural aspect of Chase Brown, I get it and I like Chase Brown a lot, but it's different paying
10:54the 111 for him than it was when we were paying like the 204. And it sounds like a like a micro difference, but it's a
11:00difference. If you draft enough, you sort of understand that Chase Brown is sort of a a big swing player for this
11:06year because he did average 20 plus points per game when in games with Joe Burrow last year, but he goes at 111 in
11:13this one. Then the team in the 12 spot, I think, did the correct thing. uh CD Lamb, AJ Brown, they went wide receiver,
11:20wide receiver. You could have made an argument if you're a Drake London stand to push him there, but if if you're AJ
11:26Brown, uh clearly as the wide receiver right there, then I think they leaned into it correctly where instead of trying to be balanced, they leaned into
11:36it and established a strength, they get two team wide receiver ones. I love George Pickkins. Uh CD Lamb, I I understand why he goes here now and not
11:45at like the 107. Um but you get Lamb, you get Brown. That I think that's a good start for that team. Second round
11:52sort of goes as anticipated. No like shocking picks in round two. Derrick Henry goes earlier in this draft to not one of the like let's say I don't know
12:03anything about the drafter that took Derrick Henry, but I'll say that that team is not a team that usually drafts in NFC. They in their war room they
12:11could have had an NFC expert for all I know but usually we're seeing Derrick Henry towards the 2-3 turn in NFC. He
12:18goes at the 304 here. So whatever you think just that's I'm not making a statement on Henry here. I'm making a
12:25statement on it's unusual to see him go at the 204. So it's Barkley Genty Henry.
12:32Second round comes around. It's Drake London Hampton Achan uh Kenneth Walker very predictable. Then you see Malik Neighbors, the Alman Ross St. Brown
12:42drafter Chris Vicaro, he he takes Neighbors. Um, and this one, you know, this was a I think a really good value
12:49for him, but I think if I we were to ask Chris about it, would he have considered or was he considering a lav? Was he
12:56considering uh Brock Bowers or or George Pickins or somebody else there? I I think it's really a Neighbors is my guy.
13:04This is the best possible outcome. I'm taking him right here. I've taken neighbors at like the 210 in a recent FFPC main event. I totally get this one.
13:13You do have the chance for injury recurrence. Then you see the Jamar Chase manager taking Brock Bowers. Brock Bowers uh living in the second round in
13:23NFC. Then the the end of the second round goes Chris Alave Nico Collins. So no real surprises in round two. We get
13:31to round three and the interesting one here is Jaylen Wadd goes at 25 overall which is really I think the way we're
13:38headed when we get to the live drafts in New York City, the live drafts in Vegas.
13:43Um and if you are at the the NFC live drafts I'll see you next week. I'm drafting three teams over there and in
13:50Vegas I'm drafting one day in NFC, one day in FFPC and I think the third day will be an FFPC day but it's not fully
13:58booked yet. So, I I look forward to seeing everybody that sort of supported my show that plays in those formats uh
14:03in multiple live drafts. Uh and I really do appreciate some of the the highest entry fee managers in the country are
14:10listening into my Rotoire Fantasy podcast and watching on the YouTube channel last night during the main event broadcast with a Bag Bubba. We had a
14:18two-time main event champion. We had another guy who finished top five in the 350 uh both in the stream watching. So,
14:24that was awesome to see. But Jaylen Wadd living at the early second early third round. So in FFPC he's kind of crept up
14:32into the late third, but in NFC he's really become like an early third round pick. And notably, Jaylen Wadd goes ahead of Zay Flowers, goes ahead of
14:43George Pickkins, goes ahead of Devonte Smith, goes ahead of uh Rashi Rice, who's falling, and goes ahead of Garrett Wilson, a bunch of the guys sort of in
14:52contention for that next wide receiver, sort of after the Nico Collins range.
14:57So, Jaylen Wadd definitely a big flag plant by the 12 manager here. But Waddle, the drum beats are excellent. I took him last night with a beeb at the
15:05310 and I think it's a career year for him. We've seen some really good years for Wadd, but they gave up a fortune to
15:11get him and it feels like this is sort of trending into into his year. Uh looking forward to that one. So really
15:18round three sort of goes as planned.
15:21It's no real surprises. Trey McBride goes in round three. Once in a while he's in round four in NFC. It's just the
15:28nature of the structural drafting here where it's like the three wide receiver starts. So, no nothing really surprising in round three. It's complete wide
15:36receiver cleanup where it goes Wadd Flowers Pickkins, then you go Javvante and and Trey McBride, then it goes Devont Devonte Smith, Rashi Rice,
15:47Garrett Wilson, Lad Mccanki, Acha Ibuka.
15:50Uh, and today we had Greg Omen almond.
15:53Am I saying it correctly? He's a great beat reporter for Tampa Bay. I follow him. Um, I follow him whenever he says
15:59anything. I sort of it's church to me when it comes to Buccaneers. The guy's never like bombastic or over the top.
16:04Really strong beat reporter. Uh he he has the quote that they're hopeful hopeful. Uh Todd BS says that they're hopefully Amecha Ibuka plays in week
16:15one. Jaylen McMillan is playing week one. So, I mean, they didn't sign another wide receiver, which is sort of a good a good indication that they think
16:25IA's there soon, but hold on to hold on to your breath if you're rostering them like I am heading into week one. But
16:32then we get the big shock in round three. And some people looking at this might say, "Oh my gosh, I can't believe
16:37the guys are usually going in the fourth round." But Parker Washington has been living in the fourth round recently in these NFC prime times, which is the
16:45$2,000 well the really $1,800 entry uh fee leagues, which are the same scoring and same structural format, same lineups. Parker Washington's been living
16:54inside of round four. The drum beats are excellent, and the gap between Parker Washington and BTJ grows larger and larger in NFC and in FFPC uh
17:05continually. I did my ADP takeaways uh last week and the shows are sort of blending together now because I'm doing shows every single day, but it was last
17:13week. I talked about big noticeable ADP risers and Parker Washington, you used to get access to him in like the sixth
17:20round in um FFPC. You get him in the fifth round in NFC. That's over. And Parker Washington's going to live in the
17:28fourth round right up until opening kickoff in the NFL. Uh Parker Washington goes, this is this is spicy. One of the
17:34biggest takeaways to in this draft, Parker Washington goes at the at the 311 and he goes to 311 to uh NFC Hall of
17:43Famer. So like the guy drafted him is not some some scrub off the street. He's a guy who's won a ton and he took Parker
17:49Washington at 311 and then he takes him ahead of T. Higgins. He takes him ahead of Luther Burton. Um flag plant, man.
17:57That's a flag plant. And I think, you know, you've heard the argument that Parker Washington could give you a little bit of discount ladi in sort of
18:05the profile. I've heard that from a couple of smart people sort of the lad uh Parker Washington sort of discount lad maki. Josh DS until the Keenan Allen
18:14signing was sort of discount Parker Washington. Still probably discount Parker Washington. Uh but before Alec Pierce came back, all that stuff, you
18:21just kind of keep going down the list and find like discount versions of a guy. It's a fantasy arbitrage. Always a
18:25fun conversation. But now Parker Washington goes two spots behind Lad Maki. So the price of a brick is going up for Parker Washington every single
18:34day. It's like drum beatat, drum beat, drum beat. And now all of a sudden, look at it. 311. So I have a bunch of
18:41exposure to Parker Washington. Um I did a couple of teams with Scott Barrett.
18:44That's his guy. It's been his guy since March. Um so I have him on two main events with Scott. I have him in a ton
18:50of dynasties. I have him in a ton of 350s. uh Parker Washington. I hope he I hope he rewards this manager who took
18:58him at the 311 because my bags are packed as well. But holy cow, what a meteoric rise for Parker Washington being basically drafted like a rocket
19:07ship to the moon. Goes ahead of T.
19:10Higgins. Another notable takeaway here.
19:12You get DJ Moore and then of course Luther Burden and T. Higgins go to the team drafting 101. So the team at the
19:18101 did a very nice job structurally.
19:21Jamir Gibbs at the one, Nico Collins second round, then they go T. Higgins Luther Burden as their wide receiver uh two and three. Then they get David
19:29Montgomery and Quinnshaw Judkins at the 56 turn. So whatever you think of those two guys when you combine them with and
19:36I'm I'm very big on on Judkins. I know there's many out there who really like David Montgomery. I moved David Montgomery down just a little bit in my
19:43rankings. You can check it out over at Rotoire. But I'm worried a little bit about the Woody Mark stuff being true
19:49being worked in. But when you talk about getting Montgomery and Judkins as your running back two and three on a Jir
19:55Gibbs team and you still have three wide receivers, that's a great way to play this. They also were able to add Jaden
20:02Reed uh a little bit later, Tucker Craft a little bit later. So there was some really nice picks from team one. My only
20:08criticism of them, and again it's a slight criticism, is their wide receiver six. Um they are kind of weak there. And
20:17in NFC, I I always like my builds when I end up having like a sixth wide receiver. Like yesterday, I drafted a
20:24team with Davis Matic and my wide receiver six was like Denzel Boston. I like having a theoretical upside wide receiver six because sometimes you start
20:33four wide receivers and you want to have wide receiver depth in case anything crazy happens. Um, but with them they have their wide receiver five is Khalil
20:42Shakir, so it's okay. And then wide receiver six is a combination of Jaylen Naylor and Zachariah Branch. That's kind of a that's a I don't think that's a
20:51necessarily a great bet, but really really good job by team number one. They also have Caleb Williams. They also have Jaylen Herz. So they double tapped
20:59quarterback, but I think it was fine.
21:01Jaylen Herz notably goes at the 1201 in this one. He's fallen like an absolute rock in NFC leagues. Continuing back to
21:09the big takeaways, DJ Moore goes at the 402. Um and DJ Moore notably goes ahead of Tedo McMillan. Um and again goes to
21:17the Parker Washington drafter. Uh very notable there. When we continue through round four, nothing really surprising.
21:24The only surprising fall is Jeremiah Love. Jeremiah Love falls all the way to the 409 in this draft, which to me feels
21:34a little bit late. And again, this is not a major tournament. This is a closed league. So, taking on a considerable
21:42amount of risk with quote unquote bad offenses, quote unquote injured players, it it's a little it's a little harder.
21:51Now, if you're in a baseball mania underdog contest or you're in a $350 uh NFC online championship or 350 big gorilla in the FFPC and you're competing
22:00against so many managers, you know, being a little bit like taking a chance on some risk makes a ton of sense, but
22:06this is a closed team 12 12man league.
22:09Essentially, this is like a lot of the home leagues that people play in that are listening to my podcast. And I do
22:15the New York Super. That's also a 12man league. That's it. Big prizes, big entry fee, but still a 12-man league. And in
22:23this 12-man league, Jeremiah Love falls all the way to the 409, and he goes to the manager with Derrick Henry and
22:29Javvante Williams. So, I guess when you look at it, that manager went running back crazy. But if love is slow out the
22:36gate, you have Henry and Javvante Williams who are going to be really good. And then that manager went with kind of old old crusty guys. Um JK,
22:45well, you know, I like JK Dobbins, too.
22:47I like him where he went, but JK Dobbins in the ninth round, Aaron Jones in the 10th, a little early on Aaron Jones
22:52based on what we're seeing in NFC ADP, and then Rashad White uh at the end of round eight. So, this manager went more
22:59running back heavy than anyone in the draft. really kind of hard to pull that off in in uh NFC, but they do have
23:06Jackson Smith and Jigba who has sort of fell into their laps at the uh at the uh 109. So that could potentially work.
23:14Another big takeaway, we go through round four, we talk about Jeremiah Love, DeAndre Swift goes at the 411, which I've talked about him on my ADP Risers a
23:22couple days ago. So basically, I just told you how this thing was going to go with my ADP risers show. You get DeAndre
23:28Swift, who's now living in round four.
23:31We talk about guys who have moved up throughout the summer, but Swift goes at the 411. Before you were in NFC, you
23:37were getting Swift at like the 56 turn.
23:40I took Swift a couple weeks ago in NFC.
23:43I think it was um a little bit later than this. It was I don't remember the exact slot, but it was certainly not in
23:49round four. It was maybe the late fifth, and he fell to me there. I thought that was great. But it was Courtney Cronin, a
23:55uh beat reporter for the ESPN, works for the Bears, uh or doesn't work for the Bears, but covers the Bears. She talked
24:02to some coaches and they've talked about how no skill position player had a better camp than Swift. And I think the
24:08Kyle Manongi injury sort of has made Swift into this everybody's favorite dead zone guy. So, he goes right after Jeremiah Love, two picks behind him.
24:17Then you get the team that drafted Lamb, Brown, and Wadd. And I like I love this move where it's a start three wide
24:24receiver and then you have a flex and they leaned into it. They build on a strength and they draft Christian Watson. So that we see Watson going um
24:33around this range in a lot of these drafts, but people are betting on Watson heavily in FFPC and NFC as sort of a
24:40huge breakout candidate. And they get their fourth wide receiver. So they're the first team to get four wide receivers and they end up going with
24:48Watson. And then here's the big takeaway. Raandre Stevenson goes at the 501. So Raandre Stevenson notably goes ahead of Tutin, Price, Montgomery,
25:00Judkins, Bucky Irving, Cam Scataboo, Josh Jacobs. Uh Raandre Stevens just is moving up and up and up. Henderson a little bit banged up to end camp and and
25:10all the drum beats are headed towards Stevenson. I I mean I talked about this one. You know, everybody knows I love
25:15Trayvon Henderson, but it's going to be a slow buildup. It's going to be a lot of Raandre out the gate. So, Raandre is
25:22a late riser in all of these drafts for sure. And don't kid yourself. The drafters who drafted at 12, there's copycats out there in the streets that
25:32are going to copy what they did. It happens in every NFC and FFPC league when these guys these guys draft a ton
25:38of teams. And when they make a pick like this, you're going to see more and more Mandre like late fifth. I don't think
25:44you'll see him 501, but I think late fifth, early sixth is where he'll live.
25:48In the main event I I drafted with Abib last night, Mandre went in the uh sixth round, and he used to live in like the
25:56seventh round. I have like an eighth round Mandre share in NFC a couple weeks ago. Then uh in the draft I had with
26:03Davis Matic, uh Mandre also went in the sixth round. So, like Mandre is living in that six, but this one he goes at the
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27:05chance to. Um, continuing to talk about where people are falling and we start seeing a little bit of Cam Scataboo fall
27:12where you get to the This is not unusual for NFC if you're playing in this format. When you get to like the middle
27:18of the fifth, it's like running back time up until [clears throat] the middle of the sixth. And nothing different here. The the Chris Vicaro team, I
27:27already I already outed you, Chris. I'm trying to trying to keep it close to the vest. You're my boy. But you took Vlad
27:32Maki, Malik Neighbors, Aman Ross Staint Brown. Awesome pick with Bree Hall in round four. You guys know how much I love Bree Hall this year. Then Chris
27:40goes Bashel Tutin um at the 509 which I want I would love to ask Chris about this one. I actually might ask Chris
27:48about this one. Were you considering anybody else there? Because Tutin and Jadarian Price and Judkins for me are all sort of like in in a handful of guys
27:57there. I'm higher on Judkins than some people, but Toutton, Chris takes ahead of Price, ahead of Judkins, and ahead of David Montgomery. So, you get Toutin,
28:07Price, David Montgomery, Judkins, and Bucky Irving all go within uh six picks.
28:14So, Chris Godwin was the lone wide receiver in that range. But what's notable is Cam Scataboo goes behind all of them, also to Chris as his running
28:24back three. So you see Cam Scataboo falling to the 604 which is a little bit later than we were seeing for him like last week but you
28:34had um kind of negative comments from Harbaugh talking about like an infectious disease. It was like a super super weird way about talking about like
28:43your Bellcow running back. You hear reports that we don't know if they're true or not. A lot of this stuff is just
28:49complete fake noise, but some of it I think is leaked on purpose to get a player to pay attention. So, you get the
28:55also the defense is getting tired of Scataboo like playing I don't know if it was playing dirty or kind of like taking
29:03shots on them and they're tired of it or something which I think is all kind of nonsense. It's like one dude says
29:09something. It's not like speaking for an entire unit of guys. I mean, Scataboo seems wellliked, but Scataboo there's a lot of people sort of fading him now.
29:17So, Scataboo has started to fall a little bit in these drafts just a little bit. It the difference really is about a
29:23round though because you think about Scataboo a couple weeks ago if you're drafting a lot kind of living in the middle of the fifth. Now, he's sort of
29:29falling into the occasional sixth and tonight or last night, excuse me, went at the 604. Then the notable one is Josh
29:37Jacobs. And um I was in the chat last night watching this live and people were sort of speculating where Jacobs would
29:43go and you see uh really a fantastic fantasy manager takes Josh Jacobs at the 606.
29:52So it's a it's a little bit of a discount. Um certainly the suspension fears are out there in the community, but this is it feels like this is where
30:01the bottom is. And correct me if I'm wrong, uh, if you're seeing Jacobs going a lot later in your drafts, but 606 for
30:09Jacobs, that that's kind of where we're at. Then the rest of the seventh round, excuse me, rest of the sixth round,
30:16pretty uh, normal. But again, Josh Jacobs at the 606, excuse me, the 605 for Jacobs, the 604 for Cam Scaboo. I
30:26misread the board. Sorry about that, guys. So 605 for Josh Jacobs and then notably Marshon Lloyd goes at the 909.
30:34And I misread the manager who selected Josh Jacobs. I thought for sure that they were going to take Marshon Lloyd in
30:42round seven, round eight or round nine.
30:45They get Drake May and Casey Conpsion in round seven and round eight which is just a tremendous picks for them. So
30:52that team, it's Puka Nakua, Kenneth Walker, Garrett Wilson, Tedo McMillan, Tyler Warren, Josh Jacobs, Drake May, Casey Conpsion. And if you're like, man,
31:03that is a sick build. That manager must be smart. Well, that manager is really, really really really really really really smart and really, really good at
31:10this. And when you see his name in in these drafts, you never are happy about it. And you never want to draft next to
31:15him. I'm drafting against this manager at 9:00 in the morning in the FFPC Varsity League that I split with Dan Williamson and Andrew Shelonberg live in
31:24Vegas. Um, and we are opposite. We're like the ninth pick. They're like the third pick. So, I don't have to draft
31:30next to him. I drafted next to him one year and it was like like pulling teeth.
31:34I think we finished like one two in that league that year, but he was one, I was two, which is a huge difference in in
31:39that payout. um still made some money in that league, but you get the the next pick for them, which was interesting,
31:47was the conviction on Jakori Kroski Merritt. the it's not the Jaka Krosky Merritt uh price which is fine but it's passing up on Marshon Lloyd when you
31:58have Josh Jacobs in order to take Jakory Kroski Merritt is very notice notable to me because it's a really sharp manager
32:06and it just shows they're basically telling their hand that they like Jaka Kroski merit this year because Marshon Lloyd he didn't rise up really in this
32:15draft. I know there's some of you that are have never seen my high stakes content here for FFPC or NFC and you're
32:21just sort of interested in what a $100,000 board would look like, but Marshon Lloyd has been going here. Like Marshon going in the ninth round, the
32:30early 10th happens all the time now in FFPC and NFC. Uh he's got a lot of steam, a lot of enthusiasm, and now this
32:38window that Jacobs could be suspended.
32:40And also, Marshon Lloyd's just a very talented back with a with a lot of like there's a lot of juice to the profile,
32:46so to speak. It's sort of a player that we really like coming out of college. I had him very highly ranked that year
32:51among running backs in that draft class, and it feels like we've been waiting and waiting and waiting. So, anyway, Marshon goes um at the 9009.
33:00Continuing some of the takeaways, we'll go back into round six. Dejon Stribbling, it goes BTJ at the 609 expected. And then Dejon Stribbling has
33:10sort of been living in this late sixth round in NFC drafts. He's like a a rocket ship, an absolute rocket ship
33:18where uh you've got you've got like scribbling in NFC living end of the sixth round. And I know there's some like scribbling haters out there on X
33:27and stuff, but I I'm kind of struggling with the whole idea that this is a bad value and and something you should fade
33:34and the wrong move because Stribbling, when you think about the theoretical upside, it's there. You talk about how he's looked in the preseason against NFL
33:43players, it's been extremely good. You talk about the draft capital, elite draft capital, essentially gets drafted right where we saw Lad Manki go two
33:51years ago when Makanki averaged 15 points per game. and similar draft capital that Debo Samuel and Brandon Iayuk had right in that similar range of
34:00end of first early early second where we've seen two big hits from this organization. Then you've got Mike Evans already banged up. George KD is healthy
34:09but George KD is you know puts himself in harm's way a little bit and misses games continually. Both those guys are
34:1630 plus and then you got Ricky Pur all done for the year. So stribbling, I understand why they're taking him here
34:23at the end of the sixth round. It's still just like, talk about guys who moved up. I have a a a dribbling share
34:30in an FFPC main event from like four weeks ago where I took him in the 11th round and now he's in the sixth round in
34:38this $100,000 entry. So, it's just like it's not like uh I'm claiming to be a genius or anything, but the dribbling
34:46exposure that some people has is is just massive. I do this league called the Hardway League where that's a Bag Bubba,
34:54it's the Go Bills guys, it's uh Darren Armani who runs Fantasy Mojo, it's Dan Williamson, there's Noah Rudell's in
35:03that. It's just like all of these great high stakes guys and stribbling went so late in that one. We do that one in like
35:11the end of May. So, but just sort of setting the baseline of where ADP is going to be. Stribbling went so late in
35:16that one. So, it's just been a rocket ship. Here he is at the 610. Couple notable tight end takeaways here. Uh
35:25Brock Bowers in round two as expected.
35:28But I've talked about how this is sort of the year of the tight end where you have Brock Bowers living in round two.
35:37Then oftent times in and this is from NFC. Then you've had Trey McBride sort of early fourth, Coloulston Loveland living in the fourth, Tyler Warren in
35:46the fifth. So they all go in this draft and it feels like the year of the tight end. Could we see a situation where
35:52Bowowers averages 18, 19 points a game, the rest of these guys all average north of 15 points per game? I think we could
36:00see it. It would be sort of a historical aberration to have four tight ends scoring at that range. Then you got that
36:06cluster of tight ends who are all really appealing upside tight ends sort of behind them. And notably, Kyle Pittz was the first one off the board in this
36:17draft as the tight end five. uh tight end five Kyle Pittz followed up by Tucker Craft at the end of round seven,
36:25Sam Laaporta early round eight. Uh and then you go down to round nine, Harold Fannon Jr. goes right next to Daltton
36:33Concaid and notably Daltton King goes ahead of George KD in this one and not to the Josh Allen manager. This is not
36:41some correlation bet. This is Daltton Kaid bet and there's been a lot of like King Kaid enthusiasm. I had Mike Leone
36:48on. That show is going to air tomorrow morning. If you're watching this on the YouTube channel, uh make sure you hit
36:53that subscribe button. Leone is a super uh sharp guest. We had a really nice conversation. That'll be a meaningful show. Uh that'll help you get better in
37:01fantasy for sure. But he's flaging Kaid.
37:04There's a number of people flaging him.
37:06There's a number of high stakes managers that just love King Kade for sure. Uh super chat. I will take a break for this
37:12one.
37:14Hampton at four in a 12man nonPPR. We start three wide receivers, two flexes.
37:20That too much of a reach. Yes, I would not take Omar and Hampton at fourth overall in a 12man nonPPR league. I
37:28think that's way too high. I still think even though it's nonPR, a guy like Pukanakua could go absolutely bonkers in that league. Uh Alman Ross St. Brown's a
37:37strong pick. And then running back-wise, if you want to just play it running back-wise, Jonathan Taylor I have ahead of Hampton. I have James Cook ahead of
37:45Hampton as well. Appreciate the super chat. Um, talking about the quarterback prices, we talked about tight end. Let's talk about quarterback.
37:56Oh, before we do the quarterback one, I got to talk about the biggest uh faller here. Um, Trayvon Henderson. And I found
38:03this very notable. Trayvon Henderson fell all the way to the 710, which if you're a Trevian Henderson enthusiast like myself, this just like it's painful
38:11to watch. But I moved him down in my rankings. I keep moving him down in my rankings at Rotoire. And I finally have
38:18him at a point where I'm comfortable and I think it's still a good click where I have him ranked, but we won't get
38:24burned. And uh this is certainly not where I have him ranked. This is well behind. And the thing that you know and
38:31you might say 710 way too late for Trayvon and I agree completely. I think it's way too late for Trayvon. Just to
38:37put it in perspective, Trayvon goes after Kenneth Gainwell and Tony Pard which I think is a little bit ridiculous. But what's very notable here
38:46is Trayvon goes behind Blake Cororm to a really sharp manager who had an opportunity to take Trayvon um and as their running back three and they chose
38:55Blake Cororm which is very very noticeable. But the thing that are that is super noticeable to me is the two teams backtoback who passed up on Tayvon
39:05Henderson at the 105 or excuse me the 104 and the 105 managers both passed up on him.
39:14That's noticeable because I put a lot of weight into those two guys and what they did in this draft and they both passed
39:20up on Henderson. I'm still going to be hitting this button all day long if I get access to Henderson in the middle of
39:26the seventh. I've been waiting for this sort of a price tag. Drafting a couple more big teams this week. I'm going to
39:31be drafting a $350 FFPC big gorilla with Rich Reebar and Scott Barrett right here on this channel. I'm going over on the
39:40Fantasy Points channel to draft with a Bag Bubba and Scott Barrett. Then tomorrow night, if you're watching this live and if you're listening on the
39:47podcast, it's a Sunday night. Sunday night, Dan Williamson and I are splitting a NFC prime time. Let's uh take one more question in the chat and
39:56then we'll keep talking. Should I trade Lad Manki and Bashel Tutin for Malik Neighbors in a 10-man half PPPR league?
40:05Yes, you should. You should trade Lad Makanki and Bashel Tutin for Malik Neighbors. Uh no matter what your your roster looks like, if this is any sort
40:14of a keeper format or this is any sort of a dynasty format, then absolutely I'm going that two for one and I'm getting
40:21Malik Neighbors. Uh, I think Neighbors is just a a a better better uh player.
40:28And with Toutin, it's do we have a long-term window with him or is this a this year uh for sure thing and that's
40:36really the best bet? You never know. Uh Jacksonville was connected to some running backs here. Uh shout out to Kyle's money. Team 12 cooked for a semi
40:44zero RB. Uh talking about how Team 12 sort of messed up their running back build. I think that the Swift pick would
40:51have been theirs and would have really helped them. So, they were one pick away from getting DeAndre Swift as their running back one and I they got sniped
40:58one pick away. So, that's sort of my take on on some people talking about this um in the in the uh the chat. So,
41:06we talked about Trayvon Henderson's fall and how two very notable drafters passed him up at 708 and 709
41:15and 701 really if you want to keep it going, but 708 709 and the managers don't take him. He ends up going at the
41:24710 spot. Very, very uh interesting fall. I think this draft is an aberration, but again, this draft means a lot because you're talking about a ton
41:33of skin in the game. Couple of notable quarterback uh prices in this one. Uh the craziest pick of the entire draft
41:41was Cam Ward. Cam Ward going ahead of a bunch of really really appealing quarterbacks was absolutely crazy to me
41:50to sort of see this one. So to break it down, you end up having Cam Ward going in the 11th round, right after Jaden
41:58Daniels, right after Matthew Stafford, and Cam Ward goes ahead of Brock Perie, Jared Goff, Bo Nicks, Jaylen Herz, Baker
42:08Mayfield, and Patrick Mahomes. I don't know what this manager was thinking. and you say to yourself, "Oh, maybe Theo, maybe this manager loves Carnell Tate
42:19and maybe they drafted Carnell Tate and they're they're trying to get that correlation play that that we are all sleeping on." No, they don't have
42:26Carnell Tate either. This manager made a couple of really crazy decisions in terms of who they picked. Uh they took Keenan Allen in round nine, which even
42:35in the NFC FC is crazy high. Uh Keenan Allen's been following to us like in the round in like round 15, round 14. If you
42:44want him, go get him. But certainly not in round nine. And taking Keenan Allen ahead of Wandell Robinson and ahead of
42:51Romeo Dobs for that matter, and ahead of Jordan Addison, ahead of Jaylen Coker, those I can't get behind, especially with the return of Alec Pearson, Josh DS
43:00being out there. Um what's the upside case for Keenan Allen? not here to sort of pick on people's ninth round picks,
43:06but I thought that was egregious. Um, Jaden Daniels falling to the 11th round.
43:12I think it's reflective of some of these late reports. It's two things. This is a six-point passing touchdown format. So, a guy like a Dak Prescott, um, a Trevor
43:22Lawrence, a Caleb Williams, they they have, you know, a higher touchdown pass uh, equity potentially and outcomes than Jaden Daniels does. even with diggs
43:31there. I love Jaden Daniels, though. If I can get access to him in round 11, I'm I'm hitting that button all day long. I
43:38took Jaden Daniels uh recently in like a 10th round of of an FFPC, I think he's good there. But 11th round feels like a
43:46like a major value for Daniels. But I do think when we look at sort of no Laramie Tonsil during dealing with a tricep
43:52injury that could keep him out for the entire year and then you've got beat reporters in Washington talking about and this was and this was one beat
44:01reporter but it was a notable beat reporter. A couple other beat reporters pushed back on this statement, but one beat reporters um and I and I'm not like
44:09protecting this guy. I do not remember his name, but it's one that that I it's just escaping my memory at this point.
44:15said that this was like the worst he's seen in the O line in in in many seasons in the preseason. And a couple of uh
44:21people pushed back and said, you know, a couple guys missing from practice, all that kind of stuff. But I think there's
44:26a little bit of fear in the marketplace with the Washington offense. And I think you're seeing it reflected with Jaden Daniels here. Uh Dave Waters in the chat
44:35says that Washington's offensive line is going to get JD5 killed. I I hope not. I hope not for sure. Uh, another notable
44:42takeaway, um, Mike Washington goes at the end of the eighth round. So, we talk about the contingent upside bet. If Ashen Genty's out for two weeks, then
44:54you get two starts with Mike Washington.
44:56He looked really good. We've had a couple of recent reports that the I mean, this was such a weird thing to get
45:02a lot of traction, but it was basically the Click Kubak saying that he likes both running backs was basically the quote. That's how I read it. But then
45:11people sort of spin it into like a new role for Mike Washington. No, they like Mike Washington. They they they took
45:17Mike Washington in round four. Uh he's averaged 7.9 yards per carry in the preseason. They like Mike Washington, but that doesn't mean Ashen Genty's like
45:25pass catching role is going to diminish.
45:27like Mike Washington's gonna get carries on a weekly basis, but you do have a window with Washington now where he could produce in more than these two
45:35games because Genty one, you know, once guys get a little bit banged up, you always have reagravation in the back of
45:41your mind a little bit. With Genty, it's an ankle. So, it's like it's not a high ankle sprain. Um, but at the end of the
45:46day, Washington, you see the enthusiasm for him in this draft going in the end of the eighth round. And I think
45:53structurally how the manager did it, it was their running back four. So they it was a it was a luxury sort of building
46:00on your strength taking Mike Washington.
46:02Eighth round a little early for me for sure, but I do think he belongs in like the 10th round discussion now um because
46:08of the early season production potential coupled with the contingent upside he has and Clint Kubak is just like that guy when it comes to running back
46:17production. Uh I hope this was helpful to you. I didn't cover every single pick here, but I've been talking about a
46:24draft I was not in for about 45 minutes.
46:28I loved every moment of it, and I appreciate all the live viewers here. If you're on the podcast uh feed, we had a
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47:11Rotoire uh fantasy football uh with Theo Greinger. Um, Scott Kobe, I see you in Vegas. I'll see you in Vegas, Scott. I
47:18see you every year out there. Um, really appreciate everybody. Someone's saying team one cooked. Let me know in the comments here. Who is your favorite
47:26team? And I'll just say my favorite teams here. This is easy. One. Well, I And this is this I'll give you a
47:32trifecta. 451.
47:35That's probably my lean for my favorite builds in this draft. Team 12, I think, did some really good things. They're going to need some things to break their
47:42way at the running back position. Um, there was a couple other builds I thought were solid. Like I think that the the the the there's a couple of
47:51teams that I think have have outs to get there. But if you're saying my favorite builds, it's 4 51 12. Probably that one. And if I'm
48:02missing somebody, uh, no disrespect. Uh, somebody else in the chat like team two a lot. I, oh yeah, I'll throw team two
48:09in there. T 2 I think has some structure to them, but they would probably be my my my fifth favorite team. Um, but when
48:16you talk about Bejian Robinson, Chris Ave, unbelievable start. Um, and then I think with the running back depth that they got with Bucky and RJ Harvey, you
48:24get two potential passcatching backs in round six and seven. You get KD and Leaporta combination, which gives them another flex option. And then I love the
48:33Boon Knicks selection for them in in round 11. Um I'm high on Knicks and then they double tap it with Baker and with
48:39Baker Mayfield they have the correlation with Bucky Irving and Chris Godwin. So team two if uh if we see anything with
48:47Ibuka um then I think he's going to uh have a chance. And then I'll also give a shout out. I think the team six where if
48:56McAffrey does what he did last year, HN does what he did last year, then that's ballgame. This team can win at all. I I
49:02don't love the Rashi Rice selection for them. I'm kind of fading him a little bit, but if you look at how they made up
49:07for it with picks like Michael Wilson and Stefon Diggs, people sort of overlook those picks. But I think structurally getting Wilson in round
49:15seven, Digs in round eight were really, really uh fun. Um, that's about it, guys. Appreciate everybody in the chat. Let us know who
49:25you think has the best build here. I also posted this on X. So, if you're listening on the podcast feed and you
49:29want to look at the board, if you go to the Oogg Fantasy, that's my my handle on X. Um, posting there a lot as well. You
49:38can go ahead and check out uh the full board. I put it up and if you're listening to us on the pod, it went up
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