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2:34It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races and he stays on his feet.
2:39Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath.
2:42What's up everyone? Time to preview seven AFC home games on today's show.
2:46We're talking Cleveland and Pittsburgh. We're talking Indianapolis and Jacksonville.
2:50The Raiders are at the Jets. Do we have two quarterbacks worth starting in that game?
2:55The Patriots are at Miami. Do we have one quarterback worth starting in that game?
2:59Kansas City's at Denver. Do we have zero quarterbacks worth starting in that game?
3:04Tennessee at Cincinnati. Baltimore at Buffalo. Welcome to fantasy football today presented by HIMS.
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3:12Be confident. Be him. Okay. It's Thursday, October 29th.
3:14And this is the worst show that we're ever going to do.
3:18It finally dawned on me why. Oh, you didn't get it all day yesterday?
3:23No, I didn't. Yeah, today sucks. I thought you just hated Heath as usual.
3:27It has nothing to do with Heath. Yesterday was a great show, I'm sure.
3:31Yesterday was great. Today's, you know, Heath, do you know why today is terrible?
3:36It's, yes. No, actually, I don't agree with you.
3:39I understand why you're saying it's terrible. But if you love something, you have to set it free.
3:44And we're going to, throughout the show, we're going to set it free.
3:48We'll get to that in a minute. Thursday night, injury updates.
3:52We'll get to that in like 10 minutes. Matthew Golden is questionable for tonight.
3:56So we're just going to have to keep an eye on it.
4:00If he's good to go, I'm sure we're going to play him.
4:04If we get a snap count thing, then, you know, check Twitter or something.
4:08We'll try to update you, but we just don't know right now.
4:12We're hopeful that he's going to play. But the Panthers will be without two starting offensive linemen.
4:17You know about their right tackle, Taylor Moten. They played most of the year without him, but he's out for the year.
4:24But also Damian Lewis, their starting left guard, is going to be out today.
4:29And Dave pointed out that the Panthers allowed a 42% pass rush pressure rate when the Bucs did not blitz on Sunday.
4:36So that's pretty bad. And edge rusher for the Panthers, Jalen Phillips, is out today.
4:40All right, enough of the bad stuff. Let's get into the players we love for Fantasy Week 8, brought to you by Stitch Fix.
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4:53Get styled today at stitchfix.com slash football. Jamie, we got Trevor Lawrence against the Colts.
4:58Rashad White, that's a bold one, against the Eagles Sunday night.
5:01And Hunter Henry, who's going to try to make personal Hunter Henry history.
5:05Like that alliteration? As your players, you'll have Trevor Lawrence, Rashad White, Hunter Henry history.
5:10Oh, are you doing the Trey Tucker thing with Hunter Henry?
5:13A little bit, yeah. Good, good, good. Go ahead, Jamie.
5:17Yeah, Lawrence's start of the week, coming off his bye week last time we saw him.
5:22He's got him, 35.3 fantasy points against Houston, 25.7 points in three of his last four games.
5:27And he has a great history against the Colts, 23.1 points in each of his last three meetings.
5:3323.1 or more in each of his last three meetings.
5:36Colts have allowed three quarterbacks this season to go over 26 fantasy points.
5:40I think Lawrence is going to have an opportunity here to have another big outing.
5:45The only concern, and we've seen this a couple times with Trevor Lawrence, is that they don't have to push the pedal
5:52a little bit because of the inept Colts offense that we're probably going to see.
5:56But I think Trevor Lawrence has still a big game in front of him.
6:01And I do think, I don't think you could start him based on this, but I do think you're going to get a Brian Thomas showcase game.
6:09And that should help Trevor Lawrence's stats as well because obviously that's how Thomas is going to get the ball.
6:15For Rashad White, look, 11.1 PPR points or more in three of his last four games.
6:20He's going to be the lead running back, as we know, coming off the bye week, still for at least three more games.
6:28I hope he performs well enough that he keeps the job and doesn't lose it.
6:32But you're still talking about Austin Eckler and Jeremy McNichols as the competition.
6:37And I think that should allow Rashad White to have a good game.
6:41This Eagles defense is obviously falling apart. They have a lot of running backs to score at least 10.8 PPR points in five games in a row.
6:49So I think that's kind of the floor of that 11-point range for him.
6:54Three guys, though, Kyron Williams, Chuba Hubbard, Javante Williams.
6:56Clearly Rashad White's not in their range of talent, but scored at least 19.1 PPR points.
7:01So I think that's an opportunity for him to hopefully stay hot.
7:05And then for Hunter Henry, as you referenced, I'm assuming you're saying he's not going to have a good game for five games in a row.
7:13He has never caught a touchdown in five straight games.
7:17Oh, no, wait. Hold on. I'll tell you. Well, he didn't catch a touchdown last week.
7:22So, no, it's not that. Hunter Henry has scored double-digit PPR fantasy points in four straight games.
7:27He has never done that in five straight games.
7:30And I think he's got it, Jamie. I think he's going to make Hunter Henry history.
7:35I think he's going to also. You know, here come the Miami Dolphins, number three in most fantasy points allowed to the position.
7:42He's, as you said, playing well. 11 PPR points or more in four straight games.
7:47Coming off a 7-for-70 game last week. Two touchdowns in his last three outings.
7:51So I think it's a chance for him to be really productive once again.
7:56Top five tight end for me. Top five. Wow.
7:58So is that ahead of— I start him over Loveland, for example.
8:02Oh, my. I would, too. Well, against Seattle. That makes sense.
8:06You said you would, too, Heath? Yeah. Okay. Would you start him over Tucker Craft?
8:10Yeah. I have Craft four, so no. By the way— Especially if Golden's out or limited.
8:15A tweet here from James Palmer. And James is a NFL on-prime insider.
8:19So he says, Matthew Golden listed as questionable. There's a lot of optimism.
8:24He's good to go. Green Bay is expecting him to play, I'm told.
8:28And Carolina has been preparing for Matthew Golden on this short week.
8:31So that is a sigh of relief. Good news to start week eight.
8:36And listen, there is some bad news in week eight as well.
8:39Because this is the worst show that we're ever doing.
8:42But, Heath, who are the three players that you love?
8:46Just to recap, Jamie had Trevor Lawrence, who he has ranked fifth.
8:49And Heath has ranked third. Jamie has Rashad White, who he has ranked 23rd.
8:54And Heath also has 23rd. And Dave has him 24th.
8:57So it's a good start for Rashad White. It is not like he is an absolute must-start slam dunk.
9:03But he's a top 24 guy. And then they both like Hunter Henry.
9:07All right, Heath, how about you? You know who the Panthers should be preparing for?
9:12Josh Jacobs. We are going to see a lot of Josh Jacobs tonight.
9:16Good, you know, dipping his toe in the water game last week.
9:20Loved the pass game involvement. But this is going to be like the Forrest Gump leg braces game.
9:25Leg braces falling off game for the Packers run offense.
9:28They have not been able to run the ball at all, all season long.
9:33The Panthers are the perfect cure for that. Giving up over five yards per carry this season.
9:38They're awful against the run. And Bucky Irving just ran wild on them.
9:42Kenneth Gainwell just ran wild on them. Sean Tucker had a 50-yard run or maybe 45 against them last week.
9:49Coming out party for Josh Jacobs. I don't even love him as much as everybody else.
9:54I'm going to move him up. Start Josh Jacobs with reckless abandon.
9:57Start Geno Smith. It's a revenge game. We haven't talked enough about revenge games this season.
10:02But it's a revenge game for Geno Smith. That's not why I'm starting him.
10:07I'm starting him because the Raiders are terrible against quarterbacks.
10:10They've given up the sixth most points to opposing quarterbacks.
10:13And Geno has suddenly a fantastic cast of pass catchers.
10:16Jarrett Wilson's obviously awesome. I think it's a get-right week for him.
10:20Omar Cooper is emerging in the battle for who can be the second-best rookie-wide receiver this season.
10:25He's definitely in contention. Has been awesome the last two weeks.
10:29He has two tight ends. He's still got Adonai Mitchell who gets open.
10:33But didn't matter last week. And then start Brenton Strange.
10:36The three games before Jacksonville went on by. I think I'm alone on this one.
10:41Ben, it's probably because Jacksonville is going to beat Indianapolis so easily they won't throw enough passes.
10:46But the three games before they went on by.
10:49This pass offense got a little bit more concentrated.
10:52And it was two guys. It was Parker Washington.
10:55It was Brenton Strange. They actually had the same number of targets in the last three Jacksonville games.
11:00So I think you can start both of those guys in the pass offense.
11:05Yeah, Brenton Strange has been good. I don't know if you said this, but three straight games with seven to eight targets.
11:12Did you say that? I said that he had the same number of targets as Parker Washington the last three games.
11:18Yeah, that's pretty good. And, you know, I don't know.
11:21This is good. And the Colts are 19th against tight ends.
11:25Colts, like, they're not statistically as bad against positions as I kind of in my mind feel like they are.
11:31But I do think the Jaguars should have a pretty good game against them.
11:36All right. So for Heath, it's Geno Smith against the Raiders.
11:39He is top 14 for everyone. And 14th for Jamie, 11th for Dave, 11th for Heath.
11:44The question with every, you know, questionable quarterback this week is Goff, Caleb Williams, or that guy.
11:49How would you rank those three? I have Smith over Williams.
11:53I currently have Goff over Smith, but I may change it.
11:56I have it Goff, Smith, Williams. Okay. That's what Jamie has right now as well.
12:01But he might change that. Josh Jacobs against the Panthers tonight and Brenton Strange against the Colts.
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12:37I really encourage you to use it. All right, Heath, who are you avoiding this week?
12:42I'd like to stay away from most of the Chiefs and Broncos game.
12:46But in particular, I've got stay away from Patrick Mahomes.
12:49Bad last week against Seattle. Hasn't been throwing the ball a lot.
12:53Kenneth Walker's already run wild on this defense. Once much better pass defense than it is a run defense.
12:59This is nothing, I guess, that outlandish because we've all got him ranked 20th or worse.
13:04Sports line a little higher at 16th. But I do not, I would definitely start Geno Smith way, way, way over Patrick
13:11Mahomes and a couple other streamers as well. On the other side of that game, I would stay away from the Broncos offense.
13:18This, or Broncos running backs. I could say Broncos offense.
13:22Broncos running backs. This has turned into one of those backfields where I think, and maybe somebody else has more certainty.
13:28But it's just like the grossest three-man split you could think of.
13:32And we really don't, like, I wouldn't, you could tell me that Jonah Coleman's going to be the lead back this week.
13:39I would believe you. You could tell me that J.K.
13:42Dobbins is going to be the lead back. I would believe you.
13:46You could tell me the Broncos can't run the football against the Chiefs.
13:50And so, R.J. Harvey's going to be the best back.
13:53I would believe you. They're all flexes at best.
13:56I don't want to start any of them. And then, as good as he was last week, I would stay away from Harold Fann.
14:03And I know he scored 11 points against the Steelers.
14:07The last time they faced, he had three catches for 27 yards.
14:10I am not optimistic about the Browns offense in this game.
14:14K.C. Concepcion is really emerging. And I don't want to start Denzel Boston either, but he's going to be a factor.
14:20I actually think that Brown-Steelers game is one of the toughest ones to preview.
14:25It's got the most, like, questionable, not the most, but a lot of questionable players.
14:30Like, do we start them right on the border?
14:32And that's why it's going to be the first game we break down.
14:36Jamie, three players to avoid for you. Heath had Mahomes, the Denver running backs, and Harold Fannin Jr.
14:42You have Caleb Williams at Seattle on Monday night, which is giving me fits.
14:47And Tony Pollard at Cincinnati and Jamison Williams against Minnesota, which is giving me even more fits.
14:52I appreciate you taking those tough ones here in that Bears game and that Lions game.
14:57But Caleb Pollard and Jamison Williams. The latter two are not necessarily avoids, just don't love.
15:02You know, so it's hard to bench two players like that.
15:05Caleb Williams, though, because of his position, I think you can get away from him.
15:10And I know, I think the perception of Caleb is, wow, he's been awesome.
15:15And he has at times. But he's played four games, and two of them he's been under 20 fantasy points.
15:21So while he's played well, sometimes the fantasy production just hasn't been there.
15:25And now you're taking on Seattle. They've allowed only two quarterbacks to go over 20 fantasy points.
15:30It was, in my opinion, the flu-looking Marcos Mariota game.
15:33And Brock Purdy barely got over 20 fantasy points, and that's Brock Purdy.
15:38So I think Caleb is going to kind of hover in that range.
15:42I just don't think he's going to have a great performance because of Seattle's defense.
15:46So if you can avoid starting Caleb, I would do so.
15:50Pollard is a little bit tricky because he's coming off this monster game.
15:54And when he's been involved in a passing game, he's been great.
15:58And this is a defense that's sort of been a little up and down against running backs.
16:03But I think we saw last week when you're facing a suspect passing attack, and you know what this team is going
16:10to try and do when the Titans are going to try to run the ball.
16:15They just dominated Derrick Henry. So I think it's going to be a little bit tougher for Pollard.
16:20If he doesn't score and doesn't get the catches, then I think it's going to be a rough game for him, which
16:27we've seen a few times where he's actually run well but just hasn't given you the fantasy production.
16:33So more of a low-end number two running back for me.
16:36And kind of the same thing with Jameson Williams.
16:39Not the best history against Minnesota and Brian Flores, as you would suspect.
16:43I suspect only one touchdown, actually only one game with double digits and PPR in the five meetings that he's faced.
16:50Flores, he actually missed one of the games of the six meetings that these two teams have had.
16:56And so Jameson has been awesome the last three games, four touchdowns in his last two outings.
17:01But as we know, this is a Minnesota defense that's been great.
17:05You know, you touched on this. Four passing touchdowns in their last 15 games going back to last season.
17:11Only two wide receivers have scored touchdowns against them this year.
17:14So it's a little bit difficult to trust Jameson if he's not finding the end zone.
17:19I just don't think it's going to be a great game for him.
17:23So was I wrong about it? I had it, not that it matters, four in the last 14 games.
17:29So it was nine last year and six this year.
17:32Okay. I think it's 14. I really hope it's 14 because I...
17:36I actually, because you said 14, I was like, I could have sworn you said 14.
17:41But it was... All right, producers. Four touchdown passes against the Vikings in their last how many games.
17:47This is for all the marbles. Extremely important stuff here.
17:50Anyway, yeah, I can't wait to talk about those games tomorrow.
17:54Tony Pollard, by the way, I think you have back-to-back with Rashad White, right?
17:58And I would start White over in PPR. Non-PPR, I'd go Pollard.
18:02Heath, I'm going to give you the last word because you had Pollard 14th.
18:06And he is... This is one of those weeks where I'm getting my rankings a little bit more updated after the show today.
18:13So he is 18th for me now, tied with Sportsline.
18:16And I think a big key probably is TyJ Spears, who did not practice on Wednesday.
18:22Pollard's involvement in the passing game spiked without Spears last week.
18:25If he has the involvement in the passing game, I think he's pretty close to a must-start RB2.
18:31If he doesn't, then I think he's closer to where Jamie has him.
18:35And in the 20s, like, Jamie's saying, sit him and it's kind of a get away from him if you can.
18:41But it's not like there's definitely 25 running backs you want to start over him.
18:46And there's also the game script thing. They've lost only two...
18:50They've only been, like, blown out twice. And I don't even know if I'd called week one against the Jets a blowout.
18:56The Titans lost by 13 to the Jets. In that game, they had 10 running back carries.
19:02They lost by 23 to Houston. In that game, they had 17 running back carries, which would be great if they all went to Pollard.
19:10But they're not all going to go to Pollard.
19:13They've actually been very competitive in their other five games.
19:16They've all been one-score games. So he's been getting a lot of work.
19:20But, you know, like, Bengals, they might run away with it.
19:23We'll see. And that's not good for Tony Pollard.
19:26I also... I know it's a weird narrative to sort of attach to a fantasy angle.
19:31But if they are going to trade him, do they showcase him?
19:35Or was that his showcase game last week? Or do they put him on ice for a little bit because they don't want to get hurt?
19:43Yeah, that's a good point. All right. Well, we've got to take a break.
19:47I've got to tell you a couple things first.
19:50Then we'll take a break. First of all, FFT Dynasty.
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20:06FFT Dynasty. Love it. And Sunday, we've got an NFL on CBS doubleheader filled with a spectacular slate of games.
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20:18While the Browns and the Steelers battle for the top spot in the AFC North.
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20:36We will see you Sunday with the NFL on CBS and streaming on Paramount+.
20:40This is an awesome slate of games this week.
20:43I can't wait. And we'll take a break. And then we'll tell you why this is the worst show of the year,
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24:14You look so young. I thought you recorded that like seven years ago.
24:18Listen, guys, today's not a show I've been looking forward to.
24:22And I mean that in all sincerity. It's been about two weeks now where I've had this date circled.
24:28I just can't even like, did y'all see the clip of Charles Barkley kind of weeping because Ernie Johnson said it was
24:35going to be his last year hosting inside the NBA?
24:38It's kind of how I feel right now. Today is Thomas Schaefer's last day with us.
24:43Not on earth, but with us here on Fantasy Football today.
24:46And we're going to pay tribute to Thomas Schaefer throughout the show.
24:50But I legitimately am pretty emotional about this. You don't know what it's like to have this extremely calming.
24:56Well, maybe you do. Hopefully you do. Extremely calming, steady presence in your life.
25:01And that's what Thomas is because this show is fun, but the job can be a little chaotic.
25:06And Thomas has just, he like keeps us on schedule.
25:09And he's always so chill. And it's super important in this job.
25:13And he takes a lot of stress out of my life and I'm sure everybody else's life.
25:19And we are going to freaking miss him. And our show has grown so much since he took over as producer.
25:25So stay tuned because every game today has a Thomas Schaefer stat of the day, stat of the game.
25:31So we'll be doing that. We'll hear from him, I hope, at some point.
25:36But guys, I was not looking forward to today.
25:38And here it is. No, you're right. I mean, it's always difficult when you lose somebody from our work family, you know,
25:45to go on to, I think for him, bigger and better things.
25:49You know, as Heath alluded to, you know, you love something, you set it free.
25:54And, you know, it's been an honor to work with Thomas, to work for Thomas in a lot of ways, you know,
26:01and to have him guide the ship. You know, he's awesome.
26:04And, you know, we're all rooting for him in his next venture.
26:08And, you know, thankfully he's groomed Sam to take over.
26:11And we're excited for Sam's tenure. But obviously, you know, we're going to miss Thomas.
26:16And I did my last ad read with him yesterday when I got off the stream yard.
26:21I was like, oh, man, this is, you know, the patience that this guy has with me.
26:26You know, amazing. So we love you, Thomas. We're going to, you know, we're going to miss you a lot.
26:33Yes, you know, I just want to focus on the positive.
26:36Really happy for him. And I guess more importantly, does this mean Johnny Airport's not going to be in the chat anymore?
26:43I love it. All right. Plenty more Thomas. Oh, there he is.
26:47Yeah, just real quick. No, it's been so fun to work with you guys.
26:51I've been watching and consuming fantasy content and specifically fantasy football today.
26:55Jamie and Dave's articles when I was in middle school.
26:58So it's totally been full circle not to like date you guys, but it really, really has been crazy to work with you.
27:06Learn from Azer. Launch FFT Dynasty with Heath. So it's definitely bittersweet.
27:09But I guess the one thing I won't really miss is all the breaking news podcasts.
27:14But I'm really, really hoping that when I turn in my equipment today, about five minutes later, we get Jonathan Taylor to the Minnesota Vikings.
27:22And then I just wash my hands of it completely.
27:25You can't. Come on, Thomas. You can't. It's fantastic.
27:28That's great, man. Yeah. Thomas. Yeah. Those breaking news podcasts.
27:31It's like something happens. The producers, Thomas and Sam, they have to create a show, basically.
27:36A YouTube thumbnail link and all that. Get us going.
27:40Produce it and edit it. Get it up quickly there.
27:43Oh, gosh. At Thomas' next job, all the stories will start off.
27:46Quote, I used to work with this guy named Adam and he would.
27:51Yes, definitely. He's going to have a lot of stories, no doubt.
27:54Johnny Airport just said today's our last thing. All right.
27:57News and notes. Lamar Jackson expected to play. So if you have Lamar Jackson, Jordan Love, and Bryce Young, what are you guys doing?
28:05Playing Lamar Jackson. Or Lamar Thomas. I was about to say that.
28:09Okay. The Chargers are sticking with Mike McDaniels as their offensive coordinator.
28:13I love Mike McDaniel. Yep. I wrote Mike McDaniels.
28:15I wrote Mike McDaniels. And what did I say?
28:18Josh or Mike? You said Mike. With an S?
28:21Yeah. Mike McDaniel as their offensive coordinator. Jeremiah Love was limited.
28:25Tyler Algier mispracticed. They're at Dallas this week. Jameer Gibbs mispracticed with a shoulder injury.
28:29Also, Amon Ross St. Brown mispracticed. But those guys are expected to be playing against Minnesota.
28:34Saquon Barkley mispracticed. And Damian Pierce is on IR.
28:37And I know I put in some bids for Elijah Mitchell.
28:41And I have no idea if I got him.
28:43You did in one league. Yeah. I think it's interesting, though, that they elevated Jadon Blue.
28:48And they put Mitchell back on the practice squad.
28:51Great. Yeah. I hope that's... I think that's just procedural.
28:54But it was just a little weird. But I can't sit here and just take Saquon Barkley at his word that he's going to play right now.
29:03So, after what we saw on Monday night. Even if he does play.
29:07I mean, there's no guarantee he's going to make it through the game.
29:11Yeah. Kenneth Gainwell mispracticed. Aaron Jones mispracticed. We probably expected that.
29:15We'll call him day-to-day for now. And Brees Hall and Braylon Allen were limited.
29:19And I offered Heath, Brees Hall, and Braylon Allen for Bejal Tootin.
29:23And he hasn't hit any button yet. So, we'll see.
29:26Decline. You're really trying to trade away the Jets.
29:29Yeah. I am. You should probably... As Heath was talking about both Gino Smith and Patrick Mahomes.
29:34That league where you offered me Jordan Love and Brees Hall for DeAndre Swift.
29:38I have Gino Smith and Patrick Mahomes. And I'm just going to stick with Gino.
29:43Be fine. Okay. Good luck. You should probably try to trade Brees Hall to somebody that you haven't been telling for the
29:50last month that you're really worried about Brees Hall.
29:53You don't listen to me. You don't care. Michael Wilson limited with injured ribs.
29:57Carnell Tate mispracticed with a shoulder injury. Devontae Adams could be back at the shorter end of the six to ten week timeline.
30:05DJ Moore practiced. We're very hopeful that Moore will play.
30:08Non-contact jersey though. Yeah. Yeah, that sucks. But hopefully he gets back out there, gets practicing with the...
30:13If you follow his timeline, it was every week, the two weeks that he missed, it was non-contact jersey on Friday.
30:20And then they would rule him out. So, this is a positive sign that it's at the start of the week, at least.
30:27It'd be nice to see him in a full practice on Thursday.
30:31And I just realized that... Right, right. So, we can make decisions or whatever by...
30:36Well, I don't know. We're going to start Coker McMillan over him and Golden and Watson anyway.
30:41You have no wide receiver decisions that you're starting everybody.
30:44Yeah. I... Forget it. Whatever. Moving on. Jalen Knowles out for the season.
30:48That sucks. Josh Downs wants a trade. Stefan Diggs mispracticed.
30:51He's expected to practice today. Traylon Burks was limited.
30:54They play Sunday night against the Eagles. Jalen Waddle mispracticed with a chest injury.
30:59He's legitimately questionable. We may not have Waddle this week.
31:02He's hopeful though. Rasheed Rice though, he was limited.
31:05And they're at Denver. And he's already basically said he doesn't want to start.
31:09Many players in that game. Jamar Chase mispracticed. Assuming he's fine.
31:13Lad McConkie and Trey Harris were limited, I believe.
31:15Emeka Abuka was limited. It's good stuff when these guys who are coming off...
31:20So, Abuka is also a non-contact jersey. And McConkie, surprisingly, is still in the concussion protocol.
31:25Yeah. But obviously trending in the right direction. I thought the Bulls quote about Abuka didn't sound as positive as I was hoping for.
31:32He just said he has to do more than he's doing to get ready to play.
31:37That was yesterday or that was Monday? I thought that was yesterday.
31:41Okay. Because I know he said something at the beginning of the week, Monday or Tuesday, that was a little bit more pessimistic.
31:48And then he showed up at practice yesterday. Okay.
31:51And Dontavion Wicks and Devante Smith both missed practice.
31:54So did Colby. There was a walk. There was a walkthrough.
31:58It wasn't actually official practice. Colby Parkinson missed practice.
32:00Let's see. Tyler Warren was limited. That's good to see.
32:04And then at the offensive line, nothing too major here.
32:07Chiefs are getting a little healthier. Patrick Sertan looks like he's going to play this week.
32:12Trent McDuffie practiced for the Rams. So that's cool.
32:15Carlton Davis practiced. So we might get three very good cornerbacks back this week.
32:19Sertan, McDuffie, and Carlton Davis for the Patriots. All right, guys.
32:22We're a little behind today. Let's get through one question for each game here.
32:27Jamie, Cleveland's at Pittsburgh. Do we like the wide receivers in this game?
32:31DK, yes. Bernard is a flex. Concepcion is a flex.
32:34Start them in three receiver leagues. Boston probably still starting in three receiver leagues, but he's the one that I'm the most concerned about.
32:42Heath, Colts are at the Jaguars. And the Jaguars, I said this on yesterday's show, but it's very surprising.
32:48They give up the fifth most fantasy points to wide receivers.
32:51So how do we feel about Keenan Allen and Josh Downs?
32:55I've got Keenan Allen as a high end number three wide receiver.
32:58And Josh Downs is just kind of a desperation flex.
33:01I don't, I don't know. Like we have the squeaky wheel.
33:05Oh, meter. I'm not sure where request requesting a trade is at on that meter.
33:10But yes, yeah, it's, it's super squeaky, but he's not asking for more targets.
33:14He's asking for a new team. So I think Keenan Allen's the only one you would start.
33:19He's a number three. And if you want to, you know, if you want to squeaky wheel, you got to do a Garrett Wilson did.
33:27Say you want to stay on the team, but you want more targets.
33:31That's kind of what we're looking at here. Would you rather start Keenan Allen or a Browns wide receiver?
33:37I've got Keenan Allen the highest. Yeah, I think I'm really close between Concepcion and Allen.
33:42And as I'm thinking about it, I probably would prefer Allen.
33:46So I have to double check that Raiders are at the jets.
33:50Garrett Wilson, I assume is the highest ranked receiver in this game.
33:53Who's the second ranked receiver in this game. I'll go back to you, Heath.
33:58It is for me currently Trey Tucker. And I know everybody's worried about a fool.
34:03Jew. He's never had three good games in a row.
34:06He had also never had two good games in a row.
34:09But listen, I think you could start Tucker or Cooper as a number three wide receiver.
34:14Okay. And look, it's not like Omar Cooper Jr.
34:17couldn't fool Jew either. He's got 11. He has a very similar profile the last two weeks.
34:22He's just been awesome with it. Yeah. I told Jamie this on who has more, but Heath, did you know that Omar Cooper Jr.
34:30has more 50 yard receptions than the Los Angeles Rams?
34:33How about that? Yeah. I believe that. Two to one.
34:36Yeah. The Patriots are at the Dolphins. Jamie, who's the best flex?
34:40AJ Brown, Ali Gordon, or Ramondre Stevenson? Ramondre. I mean, the Dolphins are on defenses.
34:45Tried and true awful. So I think this is another opportunity for Ramondre to come out.
34:50And look, it was fluky last week how he got his 22 PPR points with only six carries, I believe it was.
34:57He had five catches, 93 yards. But the big play, the 48 yard touchdown at the end of the half, you know, pushed him over the top there.
35:05I just think that this is, he's still the lead running back and the Dolphins can't stop anybody on the ground.
35:12Okay. So then AJ Brown or Ali Gordon? I would go Ali Gordon, two.
35:16Hunter Henry, three. AJ Brown, four. Oh my gosh.
35:19Really? Yeah. Wow. Okay. Dolphins are like top five against receivers.
35:23We'll talk about that later. Kansas City's at Denver.
35:26Heath, would you start anyone other than Ken Walker and the DSTs?
35:29I'm still starting Travis Kelsey. Not necessarily excitedly, but he's a start.
35:33Broncos are 23rd against tight ends. What about Rasheed Rice if he plays?
35:37He will be in the number three wide receiver conversation.
35:40Ahead of Keenan Allen? Probably not. Wow. Really? Okay.
35:43Tennessee's at Cincinnati. Jamie, Tony Pollard or Chase Brown?
35:46I'd go Chase Brown. You know, this feels like a get right spot for him.
35:51I think he's going to get the work like we saw last week.
35:55Hopefully he does get the end zone opportunities, goal line opportunities.
35:58And like I told you earlier, I think it's going to be a little bit of a difficult game for Pollard.
36:05This run defense has been very good. They're actually number three in fewest fantasy points allowed to opposing running backs.
36:11Now, some guys have had success against them, but I just think of Pollard as two receptions or less.
36:17That's been the number. I know it's small, but that's been the number.
36:21He hasn't been great. And so like Keith alluded to, if TyJ Spears, Spears misses almost every Wednesday practice.
36:27So that's not really a thing that we have to worry about now.
36:31But if he does miss the game, then that helps Tony Pollard's case.
36:35Baltimore's at Buffalo. We're expecting a big one here, a bonanza.
36:39And I realized that Lamar Jackson and Zay Flowers have not played a full game together yet.
36:44So let's get that going. Get ready. 30 points per game.
36:48And Dalton Kincaid, starter sit. He had eight targets in his last game, Heath.
36:52And the Ravens see the fewest tight end targets per game in the NFL.
36:57Starter sit Kincaid. This may be the strongest consensus we've had all season.
37:01He is the most borderline startable tight end that you've ever seen.
37:0413th for everyone, 12th for Sportsline. I would start Hunter Henry over him for sure.
37:09I'd start Chico Conqua over him for sure. I would start Brenton Strange over him personally.
37:14So probably more of a sit than a start, but not a run away from.
37:19And we're going to find out, Adam, your theory.
37:22If DJ Moore plays, is he better? What? That's my theory?
37:25You said that you thought he... I think that was my theory.
37:29Oh, I'm sorry. Excuse me. Excuse me. Sorry. Heath's theory.
37:32I apologize. Can I show you guys a Zay Flowers clip real quick?
37:36I think it was actually Peyton Manning's theory. I can't show this.
37:40Never mind. I forgot. I'm not allowed to show that.
37:43Go on Twitter. I posted a clip of DJ Turner trying to cover Zay Flowers, which he barely did, by the way, in week seven.
37:51But he got so burned by Flowers that he tried to push him when he was behind him just out of desperation.
37:58It was crazy. And he didn't shadow him. I don't know if Flowers even had a catch.
38:03I think he had one catch on Turner. But it was crazy trying to watch this really good cornerback follow Flowers, who is...
38:11He looks like the fastest player in NFL history right now.
38:14Cleveland at Pittsburgh. All right. Here's your Thomas Schaefer stat of the game.
38:18We asked some of the producers in CBS who have worked with Thomas for some fun facts about Thomas Schaefer.
38:24So I don't know how true they are. But here we go.
38:28Thomas Schaefer stat of the game. Thomas worked at the Golf Channel before joining CBS Sports, and he consistently breaks 80 golfing.
38:35And that's great because Dan broke 80 like one time, and he told the entire world about it.
38:41Anyway, let's go. There it is. Look at that.
38:44Look at that wristwatch with the 77 on it.
38:46That's very cool. Deshaun Watson is a sit. He did throw for 308 yards.
38:51But how about the other quarterback, Jamie? I mean, do we have any faith in Aaron Rodgers?
38:56The last time he played Cleveland, he had a massive game, and he's been good most weeks.
39:02He has been good most weeks, and he was about two feet shy of another big game, another touchdown last week when
39:08DK Metcalf didn't find the end zone. They may have scored a touchdown.
39:13He may have thrown the touchdown to Darnell Washington after that, but he's playing well.
39:1720 more fantasy points in four of his last five games.
39:21And like you said, the best game he's had this season was against the Browns.
39:25In week four, he did throw three touchdowns. He also had 10 receptions in that game.
39:30So I think he's okay as a streamer. There's just so many good streamers this week that have better matchups.
39:37You have Jacoby Brissett. You have Geno Smith. You have still Kirk Cousins.
39:41You know, so these guys are in good spots.
39:44I would actually, just because of the matchups, take a chance on Kyler Murray over Aaron Rodgers this week.
39:50And I'm probably in the minority there. But I just, you know, trust this Detroit defense to allow a lot of fantasy points.
39:57Sure. So Cleveland's not, I think, a layup, despite what he did against them last time.
40:02But I also think that they're going to give him a little bit of a problem.
40:07So I could see lean on Jalen Moore and lean on Rico Dowdle, have a little bit of a field goal fest
40:14and not necessarily a huge game for Aaron Rodgers.
40:17Do you have him or Caleb higher? I have Caleb higher.
40:20I got Caleb one spot higher too, so. Cool.
40:23And then how would you compare, like, every time I see some flashes from Quinchon Judkins, I get excited.
40:29It wouldn't shock me if he just went on a good run here.
40:33But the Steelers are really good against the run.
40:363.64 yards per carry. They do allow a lot of receiving yards to running backs.
40:41But I assume everyone's going to, I assume most people are going to start Jalen Warren.
40:46Heath, how would you compare Warren versus Judkins? Warren versus Judkins?
40:49Yeah. Is it easily Warren? Warren is a must-start running back.
40:53Judkins, like the way that Jamie described Tony Pollard, I think is exactly how I feel about Quinchon Judkins.
40:59You're probably going to start him. He is ranked inside the top 24.
41:03I am not super optimistic. But it would be really interesting to see a second week with him and Dylan Sampson.
41:09And does Judkins get any targets? Because if Sampson's consistently the pass-catching guy, that's a problem.
41:14So the last time these two teams met, Judkins had a huge game catching the ball.
41:19I think it was four catches on five targets, five on six targets.
41:23Sampson mispracticed Wednesday. So playing in his first game after the knee injury, you wonder if there's some sort of a hiccup there.
41:31My guess is it's probably just maintenance, but something to keep an eye on.
41:35Very similar to the Pollard-Spears situation. If there is no Spears, Judkins should be great.
41:40And to your point, Adam, it was week four, very good game.
41:44Week five, looked like he was playing well, gets injured.
41:47Week six, misses, comes back week seven, and he's great again.
41:50You know, so Judkins, I think, was starting to build towards something and then, you know, suffered the ankle injury, I think it was?
41:58Yeah. Yeah. And he's had, like, if we look at Pittsburgh as a tough matchup, he has not run well this year in the tougher matchups.
42:06Jacksonville, 12 carries, 33 yards. Tampa Bay, 12 carries, 21 yards.
42:09Pittsburgh, 17 carries, 53 yards and a touchdown. But he did have those six catches for 43 yards.
42:15Route participation rate went way down last week with Dylan Sampson back.
42:19It's not a third down thing. He's got a lot of, he's got some catches this year, Judkins.
42:25He has one target all year on third down.
42:27Down. It's the first and second down passing role that I think Sampson ate into a little bit.
42:33So that's a big injury we'll keep an eye on.
42:36I think we expect Sampson to play, but. Yeah.
42:39All right. But he's still a start. And then that brings us to the receivers.
42:44And I don't know, Jamie, if you want to expand on it, you said Metcalf was a start.
42:49Everyone else is kind of in that flex discussion here.
42:53It's these guys are going to be tough calls.
42:55I don't really know why Aaron Rodgers didn't throw to his wide receivers last week.
43:00He just threw to his running backs a ton.
43:03But what are we expecting from the four receivers who we're going to get a lot of questions about this week?
43:10Metcalf, I think, has just been very steady. You know, and I think you make a case, you know, he had a
43:16better game prior to the Saints game. I forget how they played when he had 15 targets and 11 catches.
43:23So his fantasy production was better. I thought the Browns game was his best game, you know, just in terms of how
43:30he performed and what his production was. So could you get something similar?
43:34I don't think this Cleveland secondary has exactly played lights out where you're running away from opposing receivers against them.
43:40And so to your point, will he involve his receivers enough?
43:43I think he just sort of the way I'm approaching it as like I was all in on them last week.
43:50I didn't trust the Saints defense. I thought it was going to be a continuation of what we saw from Rodgers.
43:57He's going to go in the spotlight game and, you know, throw the ball over the place.
44:02And it was the run game was just so dominant.
44:05So I think you just treat DK Metcalf as a number two receiver and hope that the targets continue to be there for him.
44:13And Jeremy Bernard, you just take a little bit of a step back just from what we saw last week and still trust him in three receiver leagues.
44:22You just don't consider him a must-start guy in two receiver leagues, which is where I had him last week.
44:28So would you start in PPR? Would you start Judkins or these wide receivers?
44:32The wide receivers in PPR. Just unless Samson's out.
44:35If Samson's out, it's a different story. Yeah. And then for Concepcion, look, his best game prior to.
44:41All four of the wide receivers or just the Steelers?
44:44No, the Steelers. Just the Steelers. I think for the Browns guys, I think you asked about both.
44:50I'm sorry. Yeah. For the Browns guys, look, Concepcion, six or more targets in five of his last six games.
44:56The one time where he didn't do it was the Jets game where he suffered a concussion early in the game.
45:02His best game prior to last week was the Steelers game.
45:06He had 11.4 PPR points in that game. So I think he's going to be in that similar range.
45:12He's very difficult to trust in nine and a half PPR because of the lack of touchdowns.
45:17He hasn't scored one yet in the season. And Boston, one of his best games was against the Steelers.
45:23But he's really struggled since then. He does have a touchdown in one of his last three games.
45:29But the Steelers, the last time they allowed a touchdown was the Browns game in week four.
45:34The last three teams that they faced, they haven't given up.
45:38I'm sorry. They've given up one touchdown to a wide receiver in the last three games.
45:43It was Devon Bailey last week. So they've done a much better job just in limiting opposing receivers.
45:48And I think Boston and the targets were there from last week.
45:52It's just like how he's talked about the Broncos running backs.
45:56And he touched on this a little bit with the fan and sit.
46:00It's you can tell me fans going to have a good game.
46:04Sure. You can tell me Concepcion. Sure. Like I would buy any scenario of one of these guys playing well.
46:10I just don't think we've seen enough consistency to say this guy is trustworthy yet.
46:15So Boston with a step back and Concepcion with a step forward, I'm going to lean on the guy that the targets have been consistent for.
46:23So I'll start Concepcion over Boston this week. And Boston was actually having a terrible game against the Steelers.
46:29They ended up with four for 89. He had a 60-yard gain on busted coverage.
46:33And he basically is just reliant on big plays every week.
46:37It's hard to trust. There's also Rico Dowdle. Would you start Rico Dowdle over any of the wide receivers?
46:43Not yet. But he did run really well last week.
46:46And I like the involvement in the passing game too.
46:49So just something to keep an eye on. I think he has nine catches in his last two games.
46:55I'm really close to him over Boston. And then Harold Fannin Jr.
46:59We talked about at the top of the show.
47:02I'm sorry. I got it confused. The thing I said about the touchdowns was the tight ends.
47:07Fannin scored against them in week four. They have not allowed a touchdown to a tight end in the last three games.
47:14Okay. Fannin is 14th and 15th for Heath and Jamie.
47:17Dave is no. 14th for Jamie. 15th for Heath.
47:20Dave is higher. Has him 10th. Let's read some questions here.
47:23DK or Coker. We're going Coker, right? Yep. Yep.
47:26Boston or Dowdle. Just did that. So pretty close.
47:29Judkins or Pollard? Judkins for me, but. Which backup plays?
47:32Probably Pollard for me. I didn't realize that. I didn't think Samson was injured.
47:37I feel like this may be just a maintenance day.
47:40I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just telling you missed practice Wednesday.
47:44Yeah. Whereas with Pollard's backup Spears. Like Spears missed the game last week.
47:48Lad or Jeremy Bernard? I would go Lad if he plays.
47:51I would go Jeremy. Judkins, Bird, and Boston. Pick one.
47:54PPR, I'd still go Bird unless Samson's out. Yep.
47:57Cooper or Concepcion? Cooper. It's Concepcion for me. I still like, I see Cooper and I'm just like, what?
48:03Who? Oh. Amari. Yeah. Right. Judkins or Corum? Judkins.
48:06Judkins, yeah. Going to start Coker over Judkins? Yep.
48:09Yeah. Samson, Dowdle, or Harvey? Dowdle. Yep. I would go Harvey and PPR.
48:13Harvey. Yeah. I mean, look, things can change week to week.
48:16Last week, he had just a terrible role. Coleman ate into both running backs' roles.
48:21It sucked. And, all right. Bernard or Hawkinson? Orlad.
48:24Oh, Orlad. I didn't see that. I might go Hawkinson.
48:27I have Bernard. Browns DST or Broncos DST? Broncos.
48:30Broncos. You know, the numbers wouldn't really support that, honestly.
48:33The Browns DST has been good almost every week, and including against the Steelers, they get a ton of sacks.
48:39In fact, you guys have the Steelers ranked ahead of the Browns.
48:43I had a tough call with them because I had a lot of the Browns from last week.
48:49And, you know, but the Browns give up the second most fantasy points of DST, so that does make sense.
48:55I'm just worried with how bad the Browns' run defense has been that the Steelers just hand off 30 times.
49:01Yeah, that's true. It's their Achilles heel. All right, we'll be right back with another Thomas Schaefer stat of the game as
49:08we get into the Colts and the Jaguars after this.
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51:16Look at that. Look at the hair. The free-flowing hair.
51:19That is a genuinely excited, happy person. Good times.
51:22Good times. I wish I had been at that holiday party.
51:26Okay. Sit the Colts except for Taylor. What if Tyler Warren plays?
51:29We going right back to him? Yeah. Yeah. And don't just sit Keenan Allen and, you know, we had talked about him earlier.
51:37We talked about him during one question for each game, but he's a number three wide receiver.
51:42We wish we had as much faith in Josh Downs.
51:45Not quite there. And, um, all right. Trevor Lawrence is a top five quarterback.
51:49You know, I went back and I watched Parker Washington's touchdowns.
51:53If anybody has a chance to watch the four touchdowns, Parker.
51:56They're insane. Every one of them was like a high degree of difficulty.
52:00It's incredible. And he dropped one against the Texans, right?
52:04Did he? I don't remember. He dropped a key pass.
52:07I don't remember if it was a touchdown. Does that make you nervous?
52:11Like he's doing things that are unsustainable? Um, not with the targets being there.
52:15You know, I think the, if there was like, he's, he's, um, trying to think of like, if he's Denzel Boston-ing the,
52:22his games, you know, like these, these fluky plays or last, you know, desperation scenarios, then yes, I'd be concerned.
52:28But I mean, he's consistently getting opportunities. If you want to hear about Trevor Lawrence, that's at the top of the show.
52:35The players we love. Basil Tootin has a good matchup.
52:39The Colts, they allow the seventh most receiving yards per game.
52:42The running backs, they allow 4.5 yards per carry to running backs.
52:46They should be good for, uh, for Basil Tootin.
52:49He's the top 18 running back. Jalen Warren or Basil Tootin?
52:52Oh, that's a great question. Cause I struggle with that one, but Warren, are you laughing about who has more?
52:58You know, me? Yeah. You just want you, that was a great way to bring that up.
53:04You wanted to, oh. Yeah, it's this. Who has more hair, Thomas or Trevor Lawrence?
53:08Well, it's Trevor Lawrence now, but I think of that picture.
53:12It may have been Thomas. Um, all right. I'm sorry.
53:15I interrupted you, but the good one from the chat there.
53:18Okay. Anyway, start Tootin. Jacoby Myers or Keenan Allen?
53:21Who do you guys prefer? Uh, that's a great one.
53:24I'd probably lean Allen, but it's close. Yeah. I mean, when, when Myers gets targeted, you know, he's, he's good.
53:31Five catches for 83 yards on 10 targets. That was a shootout with Houston.
53:35This is a 10 point spread. We may not get a lot of pass attempts from Trevor Lawrence.
53:41Just that's something to keep in mind. And then there's the Travis Hunter factor.
53:45There's also the Brian Thomas factor. They're going to feature him this week.
53:49Well, I mean, if they, if they want to win, no, I hope he can catch the ball.
53:55He's just been playing based on what we've seen so far this season, throwing to him doesn't exactly make him look more appealing.
54:02Yeah. That's kind of true. Let me just check Travis Hunter's roster percentage here.
54:07He's an interesting guy. He could easily be the most added or the most drop player next week, but he's 8% rostered.
54:14So he probably won't be most drop. I added him in a couple of 14 team leagues.
54:19Um, just in case. Okay. Okay. And, um, Brenton strange.
54:22Yeah. Heath already made the case. The rankings are so different on this one.
54:26Brenton strange is sixth for Heath and 12th for Jamie and 14th for Dave.
54:31Jamie, why are you a little hesitant to start Brenton strange?
54:34Oh, there's just a lot of good tight ends this week.
54:38You know, so I think strange is a very good streamer.
54:41If he was dropped, I think if he's been your starter, you're happy to have him in this game.
54:47Like you said, it's been nine PPR points or more in three straight games.
54:52So that feels like the floor of the Colts have struggled with tight ends lately.
54:56So hopefully it's just another opportunity for him. Like he said, he's been getting those chances.
55:01And so anytime you're getting those opportunities, you're going to, I think have it for him.
55:06At least he's going to have the opportunity to, uh, to be productive.
55:11So again, you know, you like him better than he likes him better than some of the guys I have higher than him.
55:18That's totally fine. There's just a lot of good, I think Hawkinson and like I have Oconkel one spot ahead of them.
55:25Uh, obviously I'm very excited about Hunter Henry, you know?
55:28So these guys were available on waivers. I think strange is definitely in the conversation to be a start.
55:34All right, let's get to some chat questions here.
55:37Jonathan Taylor or Christian Watson in PPR? Unless you're concerned about them sitting Taylor, I'm playing Taylor.
55:42Yep. Jalen Warren or Bajal Tootin rest of season?
55:45Oh, I'm still going to go Warren. I would too.
55:48Brenton strange or Travis Kelsey and half PPR. I have Kelsey higher, but I can certainly see strange being better.
55:54I just barely have Kelsey higher. Okay. You have Kelsey.
55:57Oh, so you must really like Kelsey this week.
56:00He's, he's at the top of the, like, like Jamie said, like it's a, it's a big group.
56:06Once you get past the top really too, uh, especially with Kittle and likely not playing this week.
56:12Bajal Tootin, Chase Brown or Jalen Coker PPR? Uh, I go to.
56:15Me too. Me too. I, in PPR. I think I have Coker highest.
56:19I mean, that makes sense also. Uh, that's, that's the debate there.
56:23Not Chase Brown. PPR. No, DeForest Buckner is going to be big for this cold.
56:28That's true. Yeah. Yeah. And you could run on them before that.
56:32Yeah. Corum, Caleb Douglas or Brenton Strange PPR? Strange.
56:35Yeah. Yeah. Brenton Strange or Keon Coleman? I could, I could see Coleman if there's no DJ Moore.
56:40He's clearly been very successful in that role, but if DJ Moore plays, it's easily strange.
56:45Yeah. Yep. And Brenton Strange or Kyle Pitts? Ooh.
56:48Strange for me. Strange. Okay. Pitts just loves, loves playing this team.
56:52I, I, I've been looking forward to hearing the Kyle Pitts versus Tampa Bay stats.
56:57All I, I, I did a short bit in my tight end, um, column this week, but I knew that, uh, Jamie
57:04would have the full breakdown of it's, it's incredible.
57:06It's really incredible. Oh, right. The best tight end game ever last year.
57:10But it's not bad. It's, it's not. The last five games, he just absolutely destroyed them.
57:15Interesting. So did you say Pitts over Strange, Jamie?
57:18Oh, Pitts, you said there's two, three, there's three tight ends this week.
57:22Pitts is my third ranked tenant. I think coming, I think coming into this season, more than half of his touchdowns in
57:29his career had been against Tampa Bay. I love it.
57:32This is great stuff. Jaguars DSD is top two.
57:35Stardom. Raiders are at the Jets. Thomas Schaefer, stat of the game.
57:39Thomas to go over producing fantasy football today in August of 2022.
57:43He has been around for roughly 2,276 episodes and streams.
57:46Wow. That's a lot. I'd like to see the chart of FFT's growth under Thomas because he's done a fantastic job.
57:53The rocket ship emojis. Yep. Yes. Pretty much. Stat of the game that may not matter.
57:58Kirk Cousins in garbage time. He has scored about 16 and a half fantasy points in the fourth quarter in two straight games.
58:05Those games were against Buffalo and the Rams. And he scored about six to eight fantasy points in the first three quarters of those two games.
58:13They trailed by 10 at the beginning of the fourth quarter in one.
58:17They trailed by 22 at the beginning of the fourth quarter in the other.
58:22Does that matter at all? That he's garbage timed his way the last two weeks to production, Heath?
58:27I mean, does it matter for Jago B. Brissette that he's done it for the last year and a half?
58:34Well, it's just it's the difference between facing the Jets and facing the Bills and Rams.
58:39Right. No, I think I think it's a really tough decision.
58:42There's kind of three guys that are kind of in the same category for me.
58:47And it's Gino and it's Cousins and it's Brissette.
58:50And those three guys are all not far from QB 12.
58:53I rank them Gino, Cousins, Brissette. But I have a hard time arguing with ranking them in any order.
58:59I think in the case of Cousins, to your point, read the four teams that they've just lost to.
59:05Oh, you got the Chiefs, Bills, Rams and Patriots?
59:08Patriots. Like those are four really good teams. Yep.
59:11And so my concern with him, I said this going into last week, it's going to be my concern moving forward.
59:17They're going to bench him at some point. And if they stink against the Jets early, you may get Fernando Mendoza in this game.
59:25So just understand the risk with Kirk Cousins. It's the it's the higher risk, I think, than even Brissette getting benched.
59:31And there's certainly little risk with Gino getting benched.
59:34So just understand that if you're banking on Cousins.
59:37That being said, this is a game that they can win.
59:41They haven't had those chances. I know they've been in some games, but they haven't had those chances to go in and
59:47say, OK, we're going to be better. We're going to be the better team.
59:52And you can make a case that they're the better team.
59:55Now, with what's Gentie said yesterday, I don't know if that helps or hurts his cause.
60:00Where he basically said. We can run on this team.
60:04There's some guys over there that don't don't want to tackle.
60:07However, you phrase it. I mean, like that. That's that's rich coming from Ashton Gentty.
60:12It's extremely coming from. He should have said Mike Washington Jr.
60:15Can run on this team. There's some guys that don't want to tackle.
60:19I just think that they can't run the ball.
60:22And so the hope would be is that the 45 and a half stands and we get a shootout and we get Geno versus Cousins back and forth.
60:31And you're you're getting that type of production from him.
60:34It's just when you look at it there. Forget about the names.
60:38Bowers obviously is a different story and then still Gentie.
60:41But like Bowers points per game. Amazing. Gentie's points per game.
60:44Very solid. Cousins points per game. Amazing. And Trey Tucker's points per game.
60:49Extremely solid. They have a legit top four starting for in fantasy because Tucker's number two receiver.
60:54River and Gentie's a borderline number one running back.
60:57Cousins is a top 10 quarterback. So like if you're just taking that alone, you're starting Cousins and not even worried about it.
61:04And they faced the Chiefs and the Rams and the Patriots.
61:07Bills are a good matchup. But, you know, they've had some tough matchups.
61:12The Jets aren't really that. I don't think the Jets are a terrible defense.
61:16They are 17th against quarterbacks. They are 17th against running backs.
61:19They are 15th against wide receivers. And they're actually fifth best against tight ends.
61:24But they've struggled the last couple of weeks against that position.
61:27So they seem like a pretty average defense. And I don't know.
61:31This is really kind of a fascinating game with a lot of buzzworthy guys right now.
61:36And I think, you know, Cousins. So let me just look at the rankings updated here.
61:41Cousins is 10th for Jamie. And Geno is 14th.
61:44Cousins is 13th for Heath. And Geno is 11th.
61:47So top 14 for both of them, for both of you.
61:50But Jamie prefers Cousins. And Heath prefers Geno Smith.
61:53Jared Goff is like right there with those guys in that same range.
61:57And Brissette. And Brissette. Caleb Williams is just behind those guys.
62:01Kyler Murray is behind those guys, right? Yeah. Yes.
62:03Just barely behind Geno. And yeah, yeah. Okay. So that's those guys.
62:07We're going to start Ashton Gentry because he's so involved in the passing game.
62:12And I think I asked who the second best receiver is.
62:15And Heath, you said Trey Tucker. I did. Jamie said Cooper.
62:19Jamie said Cooper. No, no. I said Tucker. Oh, okay.
62:22I'm sorry. Yeah. Is Garrett Wilson a must start?
62:25Yes. Yeah. I mean, you had the shower narrative, right?
62:28Of what they came out. They came out of the locker room together after.
62:32They had a long conversation in the shower. Yeah.
62:35Okay. Um, the shower is the best place to do your thinking, right?
62:39It's the, you're just like the most clear, clear minded point of anyone's day.
62:43Um, I really need to shower after this episode.
62:46Wow. It's been a while. A side note. It's not like, I actually thought about this the last couple of weeks with
62:53your clothes narratives and like the socks that you were wearing the day before.
62:58And I was like trying to piece it together.
63:00Cause I was like, well, clearly he doesn't shower before bed and he doesn't shower when he wakes up.
63:06And those are kind of the two times a day that people shower.
63:10And so you just like, you shower on Thursday afternoons.
63:14It's really, it really varies. I was going to shower last night, but I, I, it got so late.
63:20So by the way, congratulations to the Brewers. If you're a Brewers fan, like this must be one of the best days of your life.
63:27Amazing stuff. Um, but I was up late last night.
63:31I didn't have a chance and I was going to shower this morning, but I had all the Thomas stuff to put in the notes.
63:38So, you know, after Thursday afternoon, showers don't take that long.
63:42They do for me. I, I, I guess if you do it once a week, you got to really scrub.
63:48Okay. Trey Tucker or DK Metcalf, Trey Tucker or Jeremy Bernard?
63:52I haven't met calf Tucker Bernard, but I could see somebody trusting Tucker more.
63:56It's fine. Yeah. I haven't met calf Bernard Tucker, but they are very, very close.
64:01And then where's Omar Cooper jr. Today, uh, ahead of Bernard, but right behind Tucker behind those guys.
64:06He's a headache for me. I mean, yeah. Yeah.
64:09Okay. I have him versus conception and I think we're going to get more targets in one of my leagues.
64:16We're going to get more targets. I think for conception, um, but this is a better matchup.
64:21This is yes. Cooper has the better matchup. I also think like there, there's a couple of sleeper plays here and clearly
64:28the jets running back is something worth monitoring because if.
64:31Yeah. We're going to talk about that. Brees all plays.
64:34I think you should start him. If Brees sells out, I think you start Bray Lowne.
64:39Allen could still be a sleeper though. If Brees all plays because of what the potential workload could be.
64:45And I think that there's two tight ends that could be considered sleepers here.
64:50Mason Taylor has been playing much better. He's got six targets each of the last two games coming off a two touchdown game.
64:57The Raiders terrible against that in top five, most fantasy points allowed to the position.
65:02And I do think Michael Mayer gets back involved here.
65:05This is not the Rams. This is a much different defense.
65:08Like you said, they've struggled the last two weeks and I don't think that's a Bauer stat.
65:14I think this is more of a mayor stat because mayor is more of the traditional tight end for them.
65:20So they've been bad and mayor prior to last week, 12.2 PPR points or more three of his previous four games.
65:26Wouldn't shock me if he's more involved in and productive.
65:30I will. I just want to say, cause I am the low guy I think on Cooper.
65:35Um, and it's not a dislike of him. Um, it's just in the projections process.
65:40Like if you average 10 yards per target, you are an elite wide receiver.
65:44Um, and it takes a couple of like months of that for me to believe you're going to continue doing it.
65:51Omar Cooper's only played three games. He's averaged 19.1 yards per target.
65:54Yeah. It like just insane. So like that 12 targets over the last two weeks, he's been awesome with them.
66:01Um, but if we're really expecting a squeaky wheel game from Garrett Wilson, I can't expect more targets from Cooper.
66:07Yeah. Yeah. And just something to keep in mind, like we haven't seen, unless I'm missing somebody, even Cardinal Tate, like these
66:14rookie receivers, they've given you a couple of games and then they fall off, you know?
66:19And so like it's happened to Denzel Boston. It happened with Jeremy Bernard.
66:23Um, you know, don't, don't get upset with Omar Cooper if he has a bad game here because there are, as he
66:30said, with the Geno Smith conversation earlier, this is an offense that has a lot of great pieces to it.
66:36But it's just, you know, you're, I think if I, if I saw it correctly, if the season ended today, they'd have
66:43three picks in the top 12, uh, in the NFL draft, like that's amazing and can easily go address their quarterback of the future.
66:51If they find the right guy, this team is going to be really fun.
66:55So would you, let's get to Brees Hall here.
66:58If he plays, would you start Brees Hall or Quinshawn Judkins?
67:01Hall. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Would you start Brees Hall or Jalen Warren?
67:06Warren. Would you start Brees Hall or Bray or Bejal Tootin?
67:09Tootin. Tootin. Damn it. So just, just when you, uh, so I could make him force him to make the trade, but yeah, go ahead.
67:17If you, if you see the rankings, uh, one of us is going to have to make it or two of well, um, he's never chimed in.
67:25So Dave and I were on opposing ends of this, um, in our, in our ranking stuff.
67:31So I ranked Brees Hall. Dave did not. He sided with Dave and didn't say anything.
67:36Um, so that's why you see somebody posted in the comments.
67:39That's why you see Braylon Allen, uh, significantly higher for those two guys instead of me.
67:44We, we have this email thread and I've been just scrambling.
67:48And so I just saw the last message from Dave and I was just like, okay, I guess that's what we're doing.
67:55That was the last message. And then I looked at the rankings this morning and saw Jamie ranked him.
68:01So I will, uh, I'll weigh in on that.
68:03I mean, I feel like he was fairly close to playing last week.
68:08That's what my approach was. Starts with a limited practice.
68:11And he's not the only one of those guys.
68:14I think there's four of them. Aren't there, Jamie?
68:16Um, it was McConkie, Ibuka, DJ Moore, and Brees Hall.
68:20Adam, why don't you tell us whether we're ranking those guys or not?
68:24So I would rank McConkie and I would rank, I would definitely rank Brees Hall.
68:28He's the most confident. Uh, we don't generally rank guys in the concussion protocol.
68:33Well, then I didn't know that. Then just rank Brees Hall.
68:36Well, the way that I approached it was, uh, the fact when, when he practiced Monday, I thought hockey was playing.
68:43Yeah. I mean, the good news is I would start both Jacobs and Chuba Hubbard over Brees Hall.
68:48Yeah. And I would start at my guess over Braylon Allen, but it wouldn't surprise me if Braylon Allen were better if Brees Hall were out.
68:57So that's unfortunate, but. I don't think any of us, uh, I don't think the, the, the other two, um, Heath and
69:04Dave don't have Hall over anybody in tonight's game.
69:06Right. All right. New England's at Miami. Thomas Schaefer's out of the game.
69:11Thomas has been compared to the House of Dragon character with the foot fetish.
69:15He looks like that guy on House of the Dragon.
69:18Do we have a picture? Uh, there, that guy.
69:21Okay. No, that's an insult. That's an insult. Yeah.
69:24I can see it. I'll take it in stride though.
69:27Yeah. I guess. It can all be great stuff, Thomas.
69:30I mean. That's two, two people on our show that look like a House of the Dragon.
69:35Very, a very disappointing Halloween experience for me. I could not find an auto high, high tower costume anywhere.
69:41You don't need a high costume. Just get us closed.
69:45Water cooler side of the game is about Hunter Henry.
69:48Please tell me, by the way, you have the timeout photo somewhere.
69:51Ready to go. What timeout photo? When we started early and.
69:55Oh, no. I don't have that. Thomas' best moment.
69:58No, I'm sorry. I gave you a stat about Hunter Henry trying to make Hunter Henry history happen.
70:03Practical stat of the game though is that the Dolphins have allowed 15.8 or more PPR fantasy points to a running back in every game.
70:11That's wild. So, listen. Let's lay this one out.
70:14Drake May is obvious. You're going to start him.
70:17Hunter Henry, we've already talked about. The guys love him this week or like him a lot.
70:22Anyway, he's top eight for everyone. AJ Brown is a number two receiver.
70:26He's top 20, but just barely. Let's go, AJ Brown.
70:30I mean, the Dolphins third best against receivers, but that's because only two wide receivers have more than six targets against Miami.
70:36So, that's maybe one of the reasons why we're not thrilled with starting AJ Brown.
70:41Also, he's been terrible. But Ramondre. He showed up on injury report.
70:45What's that? He's done yesterday with a knee injury on top of the ankle injury.
70:50Who is? AJ Brown. Has a knee injury? And he had a knee injury when he did his physical this offseason, right?
70:57Right. I didn't see that. I'm sorry. But, yeah.
70:59Like, Ramondre only had six carries last week. My biggest fear, because I think I'm the lowest, the low guy on Ramondre,
71:06is I think we all expect this game to turn into a blowout.
71:10And my biggest fear is that we get fourth quarter Corey Kiner again.
71:15Maybe. We got little Corey Kiner last week. The one thing about the Dolphins is they haven't been getting blown out.
71:21No. That's true. But they have played the Raiders, the Niners, Chiefs, Vikings.
71:25Yeah. I mean, it's actually a pretty tough schedule.
71:28They haven't really been getting blown out. So, what's the spread here at seven?
71:32Yeah. That's good. On the road. That's big. The Dolphins got screwed, though, for this four o'clock game.
71:38You know? Oh, because it's not going to be as hot?
71:42Yeah. Yeah. So, with Ali Gordon, my concern is that he does run a lot of routes, but he doesn't catch the ball.
71:49And I think part of that is because they've been competitive.
71:52What happens if they fall behind here? Malik Willis hasn't really been throwing to his running backs, but he did with A-Chan.
71:59You know, he was about middle of the pack and running back target rate with A-Chan.
72:04I guess I could see if they fall behind.
72:07I could see three or four catches for Gordon because he runs 60% of the routes, which is great.
72:13But Jamie, earlier, he ranked it Ramondre, Gordon, A.J.
72:16Brown. Heath, how would you rank those three? No, no.
72:19Hunter Henry, A.J. Brown. So, Ramondre, Gordon, Henry Brown?
72:22Yes. Heath? I have Gordon, I think, at the top.
72:25Oh, wow. Okay. Go ahead. Discuss Gordon versus Ramondre.
72:28I mean, like, I don't, I get not wanting to buy it, but I just, it's hard to doubt as good as
72:35Ollie Gordon has been since he's gotten this role.
72:38And the Patriots run defense is probably above average, but I don't think they're great like they were last year.
72:44So, I just, I mean, as good as Ollie Gordon's been, I'm just, I'm just going to start him.
72:50Yeah, I agree. I think it's just one of those things.
72:53I just think Ramondre's matchup is better and he's been as productive as, as Gordon and certainly more involved in the passing game.
73:01So, that's why it's, for me, I would lean Stevenson.
73:04But I think just looking at it, like, Gordon's touchdowns and a touchdown in four straight games.
73:09Like you said, Heath, this run defense has not been as, you know, dominant.
73:13They're still very good. They're just not as dominant.
73:16Now, the one thing would be is like, they're going to make Malik Willis win this game.
73:22You know, they're going to stop through their best to stop Ollie Gordon.
73:26But every team has tried to stop Ollie Gordon and he just has run through them.
73:31You know, it's my biggest miss so far this season by far was that waiver wire week of not being more in
73:38on Ollie Gordon and kudos to him and people that bought into it.
73:42He's been amazing. And just to make the point, our ranking of Ollie Gordon is pretty much identical.
73:47The difference is Ramondre. Like, we all have him 18th or 19th of Raleigh.
73:52Yeah. Okay. So, Ollie Gordon or Brees Hall if Brees Hall plays?
73:56Easily in non-PPR, it's Gordon. Half, it's probably close.
73:58Full PPR, I probably would lean Hall, but I wouldn't.
74:02That's in pencil. I think Hall is probably, like, I'll have to do the projections once we get that, or I decide to rank him.
74:09But I'll probably put Hall just ahead of Gordon.
74:12Who's the best start in the Dolphins passing game, if there is one?
74:16I mean, this feels like Caleb Douglas is getting Christian Gonzalez.
74:20Yeah. Probably Malik Washington. I don't know if he will, but like...
74:24I think it'll be like a Doonze last week.
74:26Yeah, he just stick him on one side and...
74:29Like, I thought Carlton Davis would stay on one side of the field, and I think he pretty much...
74:35I mean, Christian Gonzalez, I think he pretty much did.
74:38It was a different side of the field than I thought.
74:42But Carlton Davis back in this game, so I imagine those guys just stay on one side.
74:47And that means that regardless of where Caleb Douglas lines up, he's going to be against a difficult corner.
74:53He lines up out wide like 90% of the time.
74:56But is Dolphins like a better start, or no?
74:59I don't want to chase that, but he could be.
75:02You know, I mean, this first time that we saw them all healthy, and Malik Washington struggled as a result.
75:09Yeah, but there's only two targets for Caleb. Three targets for Douglas and four for Chris Bell.
75:14But he's just... He's amazing. Like, he... You know, we...
75:17And I know I get a lot of pushback whenever I mention Pete's name, but like Prisco said after the draft, he's
75:24like, I know everybody likes Chris Bell. Caleb Douglas is going to be better.
75:28Yeah. I think... And I don't know if that's the case, but it's certainly the case right now.
75:34I think they could... You know, I think they could use...
75:38They could shadow him with Gonzalez. I guess it wouldn't shock me, because he...
75:42I feel like he's the key to winning this game for the Dolphins.
75:46They need a big play. I think the thing for me is, like, Malik Washington's in the slot half of his snaps.
75:53Caleb Douglas and Chris Bell are below 20% of their snaps.
75:56If I'm going to have to... I don't want to start any of the Dolphins wide receivers, but if I'm going to
76:03have to, I want to start the guy who's going to be on the slot the most, and it's Washington.
76:10He's the safest. Without question, he's the safest. I mean...
76:13Let me read the chat questions here. Corum or Ramondre?
76:16Ramondre. Yep. And then Corum or Burden? Burden. Burden.
76:19A.J. Brown or Zach Charbonnet? A.J. Again, he's a top 20 wide receiver, right?
76:23Stevenson or Rasheed Rice? Half PPR. Stevenson. A.J. Brown or Coker?
76:27Coker. Pats or Jags DST? Jags are number one for me.
76:30I think Patriots are two, so it's right there.
76:33I have the Jags two and the Patriots three.
76:36Okay. A.J. Brown or Braylon Allen? Half PPR. It's Allen easily if Breesall is out.
76:41It's Brown for me if Breesall's in. Agreed. Ladd McConkie or Caleb Douglas?
76:45Ladd. Caleb Douglas or Chris Godwin? PPR. Godwin if Abubazette.
76:48Okay. All right. Next game is... I mean, his target share was so amazing.
76:52Yeah. We have three games left? Ooh, that's... 45%.
76:55A lot of games left. Kansas City's at Denver.
76:58I think these games are pretty easy, though. Thomas Schaefer, stat of the game.
77:02Thomas is a massive Vikings fan. The team is 310, 243, and two in the regular season in his lifetime, but just 8-17 in the playoffs.
77:10Thomas, jump on here real quick. Do you think the Vikings are legit?
77:15Thomas is already on his new job. Oh, sorry.
77:17I'm sorry. I was trying to take the lower off.
77:21I mean, the defense is legit. I don't understand how bad this...
77:24How our offense is this bad. You know, the 2000 Ravens won with an offensive-minded coach, Brian Billick, and he was the Vikings OC with the 98 team.
77:33So, you know, maybe we have a legit shot.
77:36Actually, one of our research guys, Douglas Clawson, does an amazing job.
77:40He's amazing. Put together a packet about the Vikings and how they're basically, like, the most lopsided team in this century in
77:47terms of their EPA on defensive special teams versus offense.
77:50But then he compared them to other teams that were so much better on defensive special teams than offense, where it's like
77:57their offense is just dragging them down, basically, but they're really good.
78:00And those teams, including the 2000 Ravens, they were...
78:03Like, some of them went to the Super Bowl.
78:06Some of them won the Super Bowl. So, the Vikings might be legit.
78:10Where would you rank the Vikings in the NFC West?
78:13The NFC North's really good, too, but the Seahawks, 49ers, Rams, Vikings.
78:17I mean, I think quarterbacks like Stafford are the ones that can tear up the Vikings defense, and we've seen that in the past.
78:25So, I don't know. I think we would actually have more success against the Seahawks than the Rams, as crazy as that sounds.
78:32I don't know. I don't know. I've ranked that, though.
78:35Let's see what you're saying. And I don't know if you were asking me or the guys.
78:40Oh, it was definitely you. I don't want to look at them.
78:44Yeah. All right, let's get back to Kansas City and Denver here.
78:48We want to sit Patrick Mahomes. We're going to start Kenneth Walker.
78:52We'll come back to Rasheed Rice in a second.
78:55You guys have Travis Kelsey ranked as a starter.
78:57Kelsey... Wait, Heath, did you say you're going to move Kelsey?
79:01Yeah, I think he'd be like six. Oh, boy.
79:04I don't have that much confidence in him. I think I'm going to start Dallas Goddard over him if Devontae Smith doesn't play.
79:11And I don't have a lot of confidence in Dallas Goddard either.
79:15I don't know. That's only... They're right in the same neighborhood, for sure.
79:19Kelsey has a better chance to score a touchdown, for sure.
79:22And the Broncos have struggled against tight ends. They're 23rd against tight ends.
79:26They just got crushed by McBride. But also, Kelsey had 71 yards on five targets.
79:31Kittle had a good game. Higby had a very good game.
79:35This might be just a good... Maybe I'll start Kelsey.
79:38Kelsey had the big catch, if I'm not mistaken.
79:41Yeah, he did. Like an 80-yard catch or something?
79:43And I think Hufango's not going to play again.
79:46Okay. So Rasheed Rice is tough. I assume you'd start Rasheed Rice over any running back in this game for Denver.
79:53Yeah, he's safer. I mean, he did score a touchdown.
79:56I said safer, not safer. He scored a touchdown in the first game, but two catches for 19 yards.
80:02Would you start him over Jalen Waddle if Waddle plays?
80:05Yes. Would you start Waddle, period, if he plays?
80:08No. Okay. He's got back-to-back games with seven targets.
80:11That's not bad. Yes. And then Sean Payton tried to kill him on the reverse.
80:16Or should Bo Nex try to kill him? Excuse me.
80:19No, there's just enough body of work at this point.
80:22Like, the Chiefs defense is good. You know, when he's facing good matchups, then yes, maybe you go back to Jalen Waddle.
80:29It's frustrating. And now he's playing hurt again? And he had one catch for two yards on three targets in week one against the Chiefs.
80:37I mean, we're going to start to discuss who's the biggest bust this year, and Waddle's going to be on that list or close to it.
80:45If he's out, where would you rank Cortland Sutton?
80:48Number three receiver at best. 36. 36. If he is out and Rasheed Rice is out, is Xavier Worthy better than Cortland Sutton?
80:55Barely. Barely. If Rice is out. Look, Worthy had one great game and one terrible game in the two that Rice has missed.
81:02And the terrible game was against Seattle. Let me see if I have any chat questions here.
81:07But real quick on the DSTs. Oh, by the way, there's no way I would ever in a million years consider starting him.
81:15But if he has a good game, consider this a win for me, and then I called it.
81:20But Evan Ingram was actually good against the Chiefs in week one, and the Chiefs are absolutely terrible against tight ends.
81:27It's crazy. But yeah, I would never start him.
81:30But if he has a good game, you're welcome.
81:33Okay. Kelsey or Lad McConkie? Lad. Mahomes or Goff?
81:35Goff. Keeper League, would you keep Ken Walker or Thomas Schaefer?
81:39Schaefer. Yeah. Schaefer. AJ Brown, Rasheed Rice, or Luther Burden?
81:42Burden and Brown. I would sit Rice. Gross. This man has been on TV this week and had no shower?
81:48Maybe the Harry Potter cloak cloaked the... Oh, no.
81:51Please don't tell me you went to the city without showering.
81:55No, that's the last time I showered. Tuesday morning before I went to the show.
81:59Yeah. Oh, because I shave. You know, I have to look good.
82:03I have to actually look good for that show.
82:06Yeah. Maybe I'm weird. I don't remember the last time I went 48 hours without showering.
82:11Unless I was camping or something. This is very rare.
82:14Brissette or Mahomes? Brissette. Yeah. Brissette, Mahomes, or Kyler Murray?
82:17Brissette. Coleman or Dobbins? Coleman. Who knows? Listen, we don't have any idea.
82:21I saw somebody post, I don't know if it's ESPN's depth chart, fantasy something, whatever, but they list...
82:27I think it's not a fantasy thing, excuse me.
82:30They list Coleman as number one running back. And if you look at our projections from Sportsline, Coleman's the number one projected running back.
82:37So, again, I don't think anybody knows but Sean Payton at this point.
82:42But the momentum is definitely there for Coleman. I feel like Dobbins might still be the goal line back.
82:48That's my... Dobbins may still be their best back.
82:50I mean, it doesn't appear that way, but he could be.
82:54Okay, I got to do a little more Jonah Coleman.
82:57Jonah Coleman or Rico Dowdle? Coleman. It's Dowdle for me.
83:00Coleman or Corum? Corum. Corum. If both Vikings running backs play against the Lions, would you start Coleman over either Aaron Jones or Jordan Mason?
83:08I would consider it over Jones if he doesn't practice and then plays.
83:12Okay. All right, let's move on. Chiefs or Broncos DST, who do you like better?
83:17Broncos. Broncos. Chiefs allow the fewest fantasy points. They allow the fewest fantasy points to Chiefs to DSTs.
83:22And Broncos were bad against them in week one.
83:25Yeah. All right, Tennessee's at Cincinnati. Thomas Schaefer stat of the game.
83:29Thomas shares a birthday with Babe Ruth, Bob Marley, Axel Rose, and Rick Astley.
83:33Rick rolled you there. Did you know that, Thomas?
83:36I knew the Babe Ruth and Bob Marley one.
83:39Okay. I didn't know about Rick. Why would you?
83:42Okay. We talked a lot about Tony Pollard earlier in the show.
83:46Carnell Tate. Carnell Tate, Tony Pollard, Chase Brown. Rank them.
83:49Brown Tate, Pollard for me. Brown Pollard Tate. I wonder if Tate is going to get the DJ Turner treatment here.
83:56I don't know. Oh, you love the shadow. I would.
83:59Yeah. You love DJ Turner. Yeah. Are you related?
84:01He's not that good. He's not that good. You're related to DJ Turner, aren't you?
84:06He's not great. But I love a guy who shadows.
84:09And I thought for sure he'd shadow Zay Flowers because he did it twice last year.
84:14And he didn't do it at all in week seven.
84:18And look what happened. But that's on my mind.
84:20That's on my mind. So, all right. Carnell Tate.
84:23Wait, I'm sorry. Can you rank them again? I lost my train of thought there.
84:28The only thing I have is Pollard and Tate.
84:31Yep. Brown, Pollard, Tate for Heath. And Jamie, for you, it was what?
84:35Brown, Tate, Pollard. Brown, Tate, Pollard. And we're starting Chase Brown.
84:38Okay. Chase Brown or Bajal Tootin? Tootin. I've got Brown higher in full PPR.
84:43Chase Brown or AJ Brown? Chase. Chase. Okay. Start Joe Burrow.
84:46Start Chase. You like Chase this week? Chase, Jamar Chase.
84:49Start Tee Higgins. And... I just way overpaid for Chase in a guillotine league.
84:54What'd you pay? 400. But the next highest bid was like 285.
84:58Out of 1,000. Yeah. Yeah. But I almost got chopped last week.
85:01And I have so many week eight buys. It was like...
85:05I don't want to end up losing with my budget still in my...
85:09Still having money on my hands. I don't want to shortchange the game.
85:13But honestly, we talked a lot about Tony Pollard earlier today.
85:16And I think Chase Brown a little bit too.
85:19So I'm not going to just repeat it. Yep.
85:22So chat questions. Using Thomas as another excuse for Adam to sing and Rick Roll us.
85:27Okay. Pick one. DJ Moore, Carnell Tate, Makai Lemon.
85:30I'll take Moore if he plays than Tate, than Lemon.
85:33Yep. Adam Showers. I just killed that avatar, by the way.
85:37That's amazing. Which one? Oh, J-E. Yeah, I love it.
85:40Chase Brown, Ramondre Stevenson, or Rashad White? Ooh, tough one.
85:43Ramondre for me. Chase for me. Tony Pollard, Jonah Coleman, Eli Mitchell.
85:47Pollard. Yep. Next game. Last game. Thomas Schaefer. I feel like Mel must have like 50 leagues.
85:52Maybe. Thomas, this is your last game. Think about that.
85:55The last game that you're going to be... Your last preview game on FFT is Baltimore at Buffalo.
86:01We saved the best for last. Thomas Schaefer stat of the game.
86:05This is just from me. Thomas is... Wait, wait, wait, wait.
86:08How are we not doing the Vikings game today?
86:11Sorry. How did you screw that up? The bad job.
86:14Thomas is by... Wait, let me read the stat of the game.
86:18Thomas is by far the coolest member of the FFT crew and often helps me with young person terminology.
86:24And that is going to be very hard to replace.
86:27If he can only help you with air quotes.
86:30And let's see a little libido over there. There he is.
86:33Yeah. That's fantastic. Unofficial mascot. Oh, my God. He's still alive and kicking.
86:37He's 17... About to be 17 years old. Wow.
86:40He's going strong. What kind of dog is that?
86:43A Pomeranian. That's what I thought. I don't really know dogs very well.
86:47Very cute. His name is Labino. Not libido. And he's freaking adorable.
86:51But Sam's younger than me. So he'll be... He's got the words that I don't...
86:56I'm a little too old for this stuff. Sam is him.
86:59He knows the words. I was going to say, like, Thomas is just about aging out of the helping with the young guy.
87:06It's over. Once you start getting gray in your beard, you're cooked.
87:10Oh, yeah. I don't know anything about that. My 14-year-old and my 12-year-old had a conversation last night.
87:16I had no idea what they said. Really? Not a clue.
87:19Not one word made sense. Nothing. You got to learn.
87:22We got to reach a younger demographic. You got to learn.
87:26Are there any tough calls in this game? Ravens-Bills?
87:29Yeah. I mean, obviously, if DJ Moore plays, I think he's a number two receiver.
87:33If he's not, you're going to have some Keon Coleman-Kaliyo Shakir questions.
87:37But we don't know that yet. So if you have them, send them.
87:41But I think Coleman is a strong number three receiver.
87:44Look, he scored touchdowns three straight games. And I believe it's three of the five or four of the five that Moore
87:51has either left early or did not play. He scored at least all PPR points.
87:56So he's been very productive without Moore on the field.
87:59Now, will he be productive with Moore? That's the question.
88:02Shakir's got 11 PPR points or more in three straight games.
88:06Heath's theory on Kincaid with Moore could come to fruition here.
88:09As we saw the rankings, we all are a little bit concerned, but also a little bit encouraged by Kincaid, borderline starter.
88:16And I think for Baltimore, you kind of know you're starting the triplets, right?
88:20You're starting Jackson. You're starting Henry. You're starting Flowers.
88:23No matter what for the skill players, even if Huntley plays.
88:27This is kind of a prove-it week. Well, I wouldn't say that actually for Derek Henry because I know the Bills, they
88:34give up a ton of fantasy points to running backs, but they actually, so much of that is receiving.
88:40They are 3.6 yards per carrier to running backs, and they've done most of that without Ed Oliver.
88:45And I assume he could come back this week.
88:48He's missed much of the season. We're starting him.
88:51Of course you're starting Derek Henry, but it's not necessarily the best matchup for him.
88:56But Lamar Jackson seems to open things up for Derek Henry, of course.
89:00Yeah, Coleman. And right. If you have any Coleman questions, go ahead and fire away, but it's really dependent on DJ Moore.
89:07I was actually very surprised when I did the waiver wire Tuesday, how rostered Jacoby Lane is.
89:12Getting five targets, two straight games, but I think Huntley probably throws more than Lamar.
89:17Not as well, though. Well, I'm just saying, like, there's a lot of investment in Jacoby Lane.
89:2275% roster, 74% roster. And so I'm curious if he has a big game, like where the, like, is he the next guy?
89:29He could easily be the next guy. You know what I mean?
89:33This Bills defense is bad, and like, he could be, you know, there's two guys I think we'll talk about next Tuesday.
89:40If Lane has a big game, Malachi Fields is one, because he's played well and, or played well.
89:46Those could be the next two rookie receivers that we're eyeing.
89:49Yeah. All right. Let's read some questions here. Rishi Rice, DJ Moore, or Jamison Williams?
89:54Pick two. Sit Rice. Sit Rice. I think I'd sit Jamo.
89:57Is Jacoby Lane a start? Not yet, but clearly people are stashing him, and I get it.
90:03Lamar or Love, Warren or Kraft? Kraft. You have to play Kraft.
90:07Yep. And then I would go Lamar. Yep. Start Luther Burden, DJ Moore, or Matthew Golden?
90:12Golden if he plays. Yep. And if not, Burden or Moore?
90:15More. Burden if he plays. Michael Mayer or Mark Andrews?
90:18Mayer for me. Somebody in the chat was upset we didn't talk about Mark Andrews.
90:23Like, most weeks he's not as good as the other guy he's playing with, whether it's Cuevas or Hibner.
90:29I mean, has that been the case, though, with Lamar Jackson?
90:32I definitely could see him catching a touchdown. Well, Zay Flowers hasn't been healthy.
90:37That's true. Andrews has one touchdown on the season and two games over 10 PPR points.
90:42Kobe Lane or Jeremy Bernard? Jeremy Bernard. Okay. Casey Concepcion, Jamison Williams, or Keon Coleman?
90:47You sure it's Keon? No. I'm not, but let's do it.
90:50I would go J-Mo. I would go J-Mo also.
90:53Okay. But Coleman's been really good when DJ Moore's been out, except that game against the Rams where he had like three catches called back on penalties.
91:01Not that he would have been that good with them, but he's been really good.
91:06But that's the game he left. I think that's the only bad game that he had.
91:11No, that wasn't the game he left. That was...
91:14Moore didn't play in that one? No. I'm almost positive.
91:17I think you're right. Yeah. And by the way, four touchdowns in their last 14 games, boy.
91:22What's up now? Five in their last 15. That's according to Thomas.
91:26Don't doubt Thomas on his last day. Thomas! Can't thank you enough.
91:30The good thing, because I've lost touch with some of the guys who I was close with when we were working, like Thomas, like Ben Schrager.
91:38Great guy. We talk every now and then, but not that much.
91:42We just talk every single day. Here's why fantasy football is great.
91:46I am in several leagues with Thomas, including two dynasty leagues, or one or two.
91:50And I'm sure he'll stay in our leagues going forward.
91:54And we will keep touch through fantasy football. It's an amazing part of what we do here.
91:59But we're going to miss you more than you could even imagine, Thomas.
92:03So thanks for everything you've done over the last, what, five years?
92:07Amazing stuff. And that's it. I can't even. That's it.
92:10All right. Too emotional. You're the best, Thomas. Yeah.
92:13Yep. We love you. Appreciate you guys. It's been a fun ride.
92:17Yeah. That well said. Good stuff. I mean, look, at least we'll still have him in the chat with Johnny.
92:23Yeah. All right. See you later. I bet Thomas pops in every now and then.
92:28I hope so. That would be fun. All right.
92:30We'll talk to y'all tomorrow with a starter set for the NFC.
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