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1:53Here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
1:56It is Wednesday, October 28th, and I just realized I'm saying this out loud.
2:00Dave, I should have said this to you before the show.
2:03We don't have Halloween costumes. We have to figure something out.
2:07We have two days to do it. I know it's gonna be the 30th when we podcast.
2:12We should do it on Friday. We gotta figure.
2:15We did Wayne and Garth last year. It was great.
2:18Get your noodle scratching going. I was just gonna be Garth again.
2:21Well, we could have done a better job with that.
2:24It was really my fault. We could have done more Wayne and Garth.
2:28I've got a backup costume just kind of ready to go, but I think we need to hit up Amazon and see if we can get something delivered.
2:37Anyway, welcome, Dave. Good morning. Good morning. Hopefully, I don't know where I'm going with this.
2:41I was gonna make a trick-or-treat pun, but I got nothing.
2:45I am so excited that Halloween is on Saturday.
2:47Are you? Yeah, because up here, it gets cold.
2:50You gotta go after school. You go kind of late.
2:53It gets dark super early. It gets cold. We'll get to go a little bit earlier this year, not be rushed.
2:59I'm very excited. I don't have a ton of Halloweens where they're super young and super excited for it left.
3:05It's true. And my kids are now at the point where they're getting dressed up in inappropriate costumes and going out for
3:12Halloween, and they're nowhere near their parents. And so I'm left at the house with my wife who doesn't like Halloween as much as I do.
3:20And every year, I beg and plea with her.
3:23You gotta get a ton of candy. We're gonna give out candy to all the kids.
3:27And she goes, we're not gonna get any kids.
3:30No one comes around anymore. And sure enough, there's like eight kids.
3:34So the fact that it's on a Saturday might mean that we kind of skip out, which makes me nervous as a homeowner.
3:41Oh, yeah. Because I remember when I was... Wait, what's the statute of limitations on things?
3:45You're good. Okay. I remember when I was younger, what I would do when people weren't home or didn't answer their doors on Halloween.
3:53You gotta put a basket out. That's all. Yeah.
3:55Well, I mean, I think the real key is put an empty basket out.
3:59And then people assume that someone raided all the candy.
4:02That's also not the right way to go. I don't know.
4:06I hate letting... We've got a lot of neighbors that have little kids.
4:10I'd hate to let down little Blake in our neighborhood who wants to come and get Halloween from everybody and all of our neighbors.
4:17I'd hate to let her down. All right. Let's do this here.
4:21We'll find a happy medium. Maybe we'll stay until it gets dark out.
4:24And then my wife and I will go out for dinner because my weekend is literally like dinner time.
4:30I'm working Friday. I'm working Saturday. Obviously, Sunday, we've got our shows and the games.
4:35So I don't have much of a weekend during the football season.
4:38So I'd like to have a little time to hang out and decompress.
4:42Plus, the Canes have a pretty big game Saturday night.
4:45Of course they do. Number one. All right. Here we go.
4:48Lamar Jackson expected to play this week. Nice. Against Buffalo.
4:51Double nice. Yay. Matthew Golden. I don't know if he's going to play.
4:55We're going to preview that game later. They've got Carolina on Thursday.
4:59Matthew Golden has foot and shoulder issues. And we're going to cross our fingers and hope he gets into practice today.
5:05The San Francisco 49ers acquired DeForest Buckner, defensive tackle from the Colts for a fourth round pick.
5:10The Seahawks acquired Quentin Nelson, a six-time all-pro guard from the Colts for third and fifth round picks.
5:16Big stuff here. Just six time? Just six? Six all-pro, eight Pro Bowls.
5:20Ah, I was thinking Pro Bowl and that Pro Pro.
5:23Yeah, it happened yesterday too. Yeah. Six times all-pro.
5:25He's good. It doesn't matter. You just know that he's like one of the best guards in the league.
5:31Yeah, he's awesome. That's awesome that he's going to Seattle where they're going to split running the ball three ways amongst three backs.
5:38That'll be cool. That backfield is a mystery for sure.
5:41Right now, Adam Schefter is saying that the Colts' ownership doesn't want to trade Jonathan Taylor.
5:46I think he said if he had to guess, Taylor wouldn't be traded, but certainly still a possibility for Taylor to get traded.
5:53So, you know, let me see Seth McGowan's roster percentage now.
5:56And it'll go up even a little bit more tonight and into tomorrow morning.
6:00Right now, he's 33% rostered. Hello, Jamie. Good morning.
6:03Good. Hey. Jamie, do you stay home for Halloween to give out candy still?
6:07No, we usually go to a friend's house. Got it.
6:10Do you leave a- And you're not worried about like coming home to like your house covered in eggs and toilet paper?
6:17No. No, we leave candy out. So hopefully people are respectful.
6:20It's just taking the appropriate amount. Okay. Seth McGowan is the most added running back right now up to 33% from 15%.
6:27The most added player right now is the Bengals DST.
6:30The Bengals DST. Speaking of the Bengals, tight end Eric All is on IR likely with a torn ACL.
6:35Not Isaiah likely. Eric All likely has a torn ACL.
6:38And if it's true, that would be his third torn ACL on his right knee.
6:43That's horrible. Jamie, Tyrone Tracy Jr. on IR. That was a surprise to me.
6:47Devin Singletary expected to play more. They have their bye.
6:50Then at Philadelphia, Washington, Jacksonville, at Indianapolis. Those are the games that Tyrone Tracy Jr.
6:55is going to miss. And should we pick up Singletary?
6:58And how big of a boost is this for Scadaboo?
7:01Well, I mean, hopefully he's healthy. You know, he may not be able to play in week nine.
7:06That's a huge thing to keep an eye on.
7:09So Singletary is a must-add. You know, I think if we were reordering the list from yesterday, I would probably go McGowan still one.
7:16Might put Singletary two. Kalon Black three. Just because it sounds like McCaffrey is going to be okay.
7:21We just don't know with Scadaboo. So the Giants, you know, they seem inclined to want to use both running backs last
7:28week with Tracy and Scadaboo before Tracy got hurt.
7:31So I'm guessing that Singletary, we know we haven't seen Scadaboo play in a lot of obvious passing down situations.
7:37So Singletary definitely has a history there. They're going to have to bring in somebody.
7:41And this is clearly one of the teams that's in the Jonathan Taylor discussions as well.
7:46Yeah, maybe they'll bring Najee Harris. No, just kidding.
7:49More news and notes. And then we'll get into the bylaws and the sell.
7:53Highs. Arizona signed wide receiver. That's fun. High class scumbag says that's not alphabetical.
7:57Hey, just to put it out there after the Tracy injury, it was Scadaboo at 56%.
8:02Singletary at 44% last week. And Singletary had just a slight edge on third downs.
8:06I think there's a, there's a spot for Singletary and fantasy at this point and getting ahead of it.
8:12It isn't the worst idea. If we buy into what the Colts are saying, McGowan won't be a thing until Taylor, you know, decide gets hurt or something.
8:21And then he decides he's just not going to play.
8:24Maybe Singletary could be the better ad in that case.
8:27Yeah. And, he's 9% rostered. Nine percent. Nine percent.
8:29I don't remember being rostered in 9% of leagues.
8:32Ravens right guard. Venga Yohane is going to miss time with a sprained MCL.
8:36And Micah Parsons for the Packers could practice this week.
8:39I've got some stats on the Packers. Then I'll just give them now.
8:43Because there's some teams where, you know, you're really relying on heavy pass volume.
8:47And the Packers, they're sixth in pass attempts per game.
8:50And you're going, well, is that going to change?
8:53I think the raw numbers suggest that probably not.
8:56So, they're sixth in pass attempts per game, but they're only 23rd in points per game.
9:01And they've left so many points on the board just based on drops.
9:04They have the most drops in football. I did a, Dave, I'll do the who has more with you that I did with Jamie yesterday.
9:12Who has more drops? Matthew Golden through weeks one through seven, or any other wide receiver in the previous 10 years from weeks one through seven?
9:20I'm going to take the field on that one.
9:22I'm going to say that there's been a receiver out there that's had more drops than Golden.
9:28Good for you. Yes. Amari Cooper had a year and, and Michael Crabtree the following year.
9:32But I believe Matthew Golden has the most drops to the first seven weeks of the season in eight seasons.
9:38Yikes. And it's not just him. It's like ton of drops.
9:42As Heath said on Sunday night, Jordan Love throws a very droppable ball.
9:46It's so good. But the Packers are first in pass rate.
9:49They're 19th in plays per game. But the thing is, they're 11th in defense.
9:53So I don't, you know, it's not like they've been horrible on defense and that's why they're passing.
9:59I just think that, I think they're a passing team.
10:02They expect them to probably pass less with Jacobs, but it is important.
10:05And it's specifically important for Tucker Craft because Tucker Craft has a 16.5% target share right around there.
10:11And that's really low. So he needs, if it's going to stay that way, he needs all the pass volume.
10:17We'll talk about him in a little bit. Okay.
10:20A couple of things you need to tune in for tomorrow.
10:23Tomorrow's show. I'm not going to tell you why right now.
10:26Tomorrow's show is going to be our worst show.
10:29One of our worst shows ever. You need to tune in.
10:32Are you crazy? You got to be there for it.
10:35It's a terrible, it's going to be a terrible show and a lot of bad stuff.
10:40So just, we haven't had Heath on all week.
10:43Well, that's why it's not why, that's not why it's going to be terrible.
10:47Yeah. Really good. I can't wait for him to rebuttal.
10:50You'll see. You'll just stay tuned for it. Horrible show.
10:53Really not looking forward to it, but I am looking forward to it at the same time.
10:58And then Sunday you're confused, Dave. Yeah, I have no idea.
11:01I mean, I'm not on Thursdays anymore. You're going to have to pop on for a few minutes.
11:07I'm not, you know, I can't hang with the cool kids, I guess.
11:11Yeah. Well, uh, terrible show. Anyway, Sunday will be, will be great.
11:14Sunday from 11 a. Oh, I know why it's going to be terrible.
11:18It is right. You're right. Yes. Uh, Sunday is going to be, uh, you know, all that, not as terrible, but anyway, Sunday, 11 to one, 11 a.m.
11:27To 1 p.m. Eastern tune into youtube.com slash fantasy football today.
11:30You can also see Dave on CBS sports HQ from noon to one, uh, previewing games, talking football.
11:35But if you want to just get your start, sit questions answered, they do a little bit of that on HQ.
11:42We do a lot of that at youtube.com slash fantasy football today, 11 to one, no game in Europe and daylight savings time.
11:49We'll be well rested for Sunday. I would just want to add, it's not too late to send in your questions for
11:55this week's edition of reality versus fantasy. Scott Turner and I looking for your questions.
12:00If you saw something in football this past week and you want to know the details of it, or if you've got
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12:16We'll try and get it into this week's show.
12:18That'll drop later today on YouTube. Yeah. I would like for you to ask him about the tight end stuff that we talked about.
12:25I'm trying to figure definitely going to ask him about the lions offense against the Vikings defense.
12:31Oh yeah. And that bears see the first thing, right?
12:34Um, yeah, I mean, I'm sort of exploring a new metric for tight end coverage, uh, that, you know, it's basically, I've kind of referenced it.
12:41Like do teams allow a lot of short area passes to be completed?
12:45Some teams that feel like they're okay with it.
12:48Some teams like the Rams are not. So, and I look at it, the metric I've been looking at is past attempts
12:55of, I usually go with zero to seven air yards.
12:58Most tight ends live in that range. And, um, some teams are really good at defending that.
13:03And maybe those are the teams that we try to avoid.
13:06I mean, it's really, it doesn't, it come down to the type of coverage that they have.
13:11And if they're trying to defend against the deep ball, defenses are going to be happy to let the tight ends, take
13:18the check down or the underneath throw. And some quarterbacks see, this is why I don't think it's necessarily just a defense thing.
13:25The, the scheme matters a lot, but it's also just the tendency of the quarterback.
13:29There are quarterbacks in this league when they are pressured, they want to get that ball out of their hands as fast as possible.
13:36They're not trying to make like hero plays. Some do others don't.
13:40And when they are trying to check down as fast as possible, they're looking for the tight end because he's there.
13:46He's four yards downfield. Yeah. And so I, I kind of feel like those are our large factors as well compared to,
13:53um, defenses that are just great at covering inside of seven air yards.
13:57But if you watch the Rams tape and the way they defended Michael mayor, it was very eyeopening to me, including again,
14:03their ability to have their defensive ends or their line edge rushers drop back into coverage and do a really good job.
14:10Right. But do they do that every time? Is that what you see all the time?
14:15Right. Those guys are primarily pass rushers, not coverage guys.
14:18No, but it was, it was a tool that they used.
14:21I'd say it is that that's fair. All right, let's do some buy low and some sell high.
14:27Jamie, you're buying low on Stefan digs and chase Brown.
14:30Someone actually asked, should we sell high on Stefan digs?
14:33And I think I know where they're coming from.
14:35Uh, and I can see both sides of the coin here on digs, but, uh, long story short on digs heavily targeted
14:42when he's on the field, uh, seven to nine targets in four or five games, six or more targets in, in all
14:49five games this year though, probably just small sample size noise, but one of the least efficient wide receivers in the NFL yards per target, yards per catch.
14:57Yak, that kind of stuff. so where are you at on Stefan digs right now?
15:01Well, first off, I'm not saying buy low or sell high anymore because our audience is too smart and we're not going to trick people.
15:09It's just not, it's just silly to say those phrases.
15:12So we're going to say trade for and trade away.
15:15Uh, I'm going to trade for Stefan digs because I think what we're seeing is big opportunity for him coming, uh, whether
15:22his role changes or not, you know, he's going to get those chances.
15:25And I think that's something that you want to acquire.
15:28Remember he's on a lot of people's benches. I have Stefan digs and probably about five of my 29 leagues and clearly did not play him last week.
15:37And there's probably three or four of those leagues where I can't even get him into the, into my lineup.
15:43So if I'm a wide receiver needy team, I'm going to try and see my, get Stefan digs off somebody's bench.
15:49Because again, there's a big opportunity coming for him where he should be productive.
15:53Now you are still trying to acquire a 30 plus year old wide receiver who is not going to be the type
16:00of guy that's going to, as you just alluded to play on every snap, play on every down, be, you know, that
16:07alpha that his role would suggest or his opportunity would suggest.
16:10But I think you're going to get the production of a top 20 caliber type of guy.
16:15So they're going to use Chico Conquo. They're going to use Antonio Williams.
16:19They're going to use Trey Lundberg. It's going to make all these guys sort of, they're going to make them involved.
16:25Um, but digs is still the one that is going to be the most productive.
16:30And so if you can get him at a relatively cheap cost, cause you're not trying to acquire, um, a top 15
16:36caliber wide receiver, you're, you're, you're looking at a guy that again, our audience, the smart fantasy player knows that digs is headed for a bump.
16:44So you might have to pay to a certain extent, but you don't think you have to overpay for digs.
16:50Right. And so that's the type of player I think that can help you in the stretch run.
16:56I love how Jamie said, I've got them in five of 29 leagues and there's zero exaggeration.
17:01Like Jamie's actually in 29 leagues. I, if I was wearing a cap, I would tip it towards you seven or more targets in four or five games.
17:09The target per route run rate for Stefan digs this year has been at least 21% in every single game.
17:15So you can overlook the fact that he's only running a route 70% of the time.
17:20Sometimes it's been even less than that. Sometimes it's been closer to 50% and he's still getting a lot of work.
17:26The commanders say that they're not going to change his role.
17:30So I would expect that to continue. And that means that that target volume should stay steady.
17:35Do you, Jamie view digs as a top 24 receiver right now?
17:38Like when you're trading for him, are you expecting him?
17:41And you kind of talked about this. You said that he was like kind of in that top 20 range.
17:47I believe. Do you, do you think that he's amongst the top 24 rest of season?
17:52Yes. Okay. I've got them a little bit lower than that on the trade chart, but it doesn't mean that I don't,
17:59I like the idea of trading for him. If you need a receiver because he'll come at a pretty cheap price.
18:05It's an interesting question. Top 24. And by the way, when Jamie said he had Stefan digs in five of his 29
18:12leagues, I had this, we call that a five 29 plan joke queued up, but I didn't really, you know, it was
18:18just, you know, but you gotta go back to joke school for that.
18:22Thank you. Is he a top 24 ride receiver right now?
18:25Wide receiver 23 per game is Justin Jefferson. Wide receiver 24 per game is Jalen Coker.
18:3025 is JMO. George Pickens is 26. Stefan digs is time.
18:34It's hurting my heart at 26. It's a good year right now for wide receivers, but he's already just, I mean, he's
18:40basically wide receiver 24 per game right now. And if he gets seven targets per game and has 119 target pace, then
18:47he will, it is hard not to be a top 24.
18:50Right. That's always a number. If you think back to the position previews where I've looked at guys, who, who come out
18:57of the like round seven or later range and are, and are really good for fantasy, the best picks, almost all of
19:03them average seven or more targets per game. It's a huge number.
19:07And he's been that in four of five games.
19:10And that was with Terry McLaurin. And we are going to take a commercial break.
19:14And when we come back, you know, it's funny, Jamie, you sent, I sent the email by low, sell high.
19:20You send it back trade for and trade away.
19:23And I said, that's weird. Jamie used the wrong terminology, but he did it.
19:27It's a new, it's a new day on fantasy.
19:30I mean, like we're saying buy low, sell high.
19:32Like we say it all the time. Then we get all this pushback on who's giving these guys away or how are we getting these players?
19:40Like, it just doesn't make sense to phrase it that way.
19:44And you can always add players who are doing well on the trade for list.
19:48Even if their stock is high, it doesn't mean that you, you know, buying low to Jamie's point suggests that we're getting players at a discount.
19:56Sometimes buying high, isn't a bad idea. If you believe the player is going to do great.
20:01I love Bucky Irving's rest of season schedule. I think it's going to be great.
20:06Should we go over some trades after the break, Adam?
20:09Not digs. We got to move along, but yes.
20:11Jamie, the only thing I would say with, with trade for and trade away is what about SEO?
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23:30is look at rest of season schedules. Dave and I kind of disagreed on his rest of season schedule.
23:35I had it as a good schedule. Very good.
23:38You think so? Okay. Oh my gosh. Yes. Okay.
23:41Go ahead. Give us your case for chase Brown.
23:43Well, I mean, starting this week, Tennessee's run defense, I don't think is going to be very good at all.
23:49Uh, as we just saw Quinchon Judkins run right through them.
23:53So the hope would be is that the workload that we saw, and I saw somebody post this on Twitter when he
23:59ran into Patrick Queen in the game last week, uh, and Queen got injured.
24:03I think it was Patrick Queen. Um, uh, and he got injured.
24:07Am I getting that? Patrick Queen's on the Steelers.
24:10Yeah. Why am I getting that wrong? Who do you run into?
24:13That's Broquan. Somebody else. I saw the same thing.
24:16He ran into Broquan Smith. Excuse me. Uh, and Smith got injured.
24:20Um, that's when he came off the field for some magic P run.
24:24I don't know if he got banged up in that collision also.
24:27Um, and so that's when he got the goal line chance as well for P run.
24:32So I'm hoping that what we saw from Brown last week coming off their bye week, they really tried to run the ball early in that game.
24:40They didn't have the ball very often. Uh, we were sitting there watching the game, but why are they trying to run the ball so much?
24:48And then they come out in the second half and it was just the Joe Burrow show.
24:53So this is not an offense. I think that's going to challenge their, their team very much.
24:58And I think that's kind of the sentiment for the schedule moving forward.
25:02Like they don't face a lot of very good offenses the rest of the way.
25:07And so I think just starting with this week, this is an opportunity for Chase Brown to get going.
25:12It's been the same scenario every year for him the last couple of years where he gets going at this point in the season.
25:19So hopefully that carries over as well. That's not something you want to count on.
25:24I'm looking at the rest of season schedule. Their opponents are very easy and this is an opportunity to buy into Chase
25:31Brown before he takes off, which will happen this week.
25:34Okay. Chase Brown is, uh, is, uh, player to trade for Dave wants to trade for a Mecca, a Buka and Ramond Ray Stevenson.
25:41I just think that they're the best players at their positions on, on their respective teams of Buka coming off the concussion.
25:47I think people are smart enough to recognize that a Buka has been hitting his groove.
25:52And once he comes back, hopefully with Baker Mayfield, that target share stays up and that Tampa Bay still has a rushing,
25:59a passing presence, not like what they had last week against Carolina and a Buka will cost you more than a Stefan digs would.
26:06Uh, he might even cost you more than a chase Brown at this point in the season, but I think that he
26:13can be a good number two wide receiver rest of the year.
26:16Ramond Ray Stevenson. I just think that he's locked in as their passing downs back their goal line back, no matter what
26:23other games they play with Travion Henderson and Corey Kiner.
26:26I think he's got that role on lock and he'll still get carries on top of it.
26:31This has nothing to do with what he did against Chicago and that fluky play for a touchdown.
26:36I think it has to do with a good role on a Patriots team that will be in plenty of competitive games
26:43and are fairly committed to running the ball. I've got some of Mecca Buka trades that actually went down in CBS sports
26:50leagues, uh, Mecca Buka for Quinn Sean Judkins, a Mecca Buka for Ollie Gordon.
26:54Both fair. I think a Buka is worth more than both, but the Gordon trade is pretty fair on the trade chart.
27:00Again, this is what you have to do when you're trading running backs.
27:04You have to overpay. So the person acquiring backs.
27:07Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, and a Buka is an overpay for those running.
27:11I think, I don't know if it's, if it's like a huge overpay, but no, it's not, you know, this is to
27:18me that those fair deals, very fair deals. I like the Gordon deal better.
27:22Here's one. Well, here's one that I love and one that I don't think I love.
27:27I love Michael Wilson for a Mecca Buka. Love it.
27:30I don't know why anyone would do that. And, um, I don't love, you gotta get, you gotta trade Wilson away, giving
27:36up DJ more to get a Mecca Buka. But I'd rather have more, but I don't know.
27:41I mean, I don't love DJ more schedule. We've got Minnesota coming up.
27:45So week eight is Baltimore. That's good. Then we've got Minnesota.
27:49We've got Miami. They're third best against receivers. Cause everyone just runs on them.
27:53Kansas city is like fourth best against receivers. The Patriots of Christian Gonzalez, who didn't see DJ more.
27:58He was out the first game. The bears have been great against wide receivers and Denver.
28:03You know, he's got Sertan in week 16 and then Miami again in week 17.
28:07I would say on paper, DJ more is one of the worst schedules going forward.
28:12Oh, I am just kind of noticing this now.
28:15Ooh, man. If DJ more has a big game this week against Baltimore, if he can play is might want to, right.
28:21That's part of the problem too. I'd rather have a Buka.
28:25Maybe I'm okay. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong.
28:27All right. when you go to your leagues, do you just open up the roster good and say, who has more?
28:34All right. Uh, so that's a DJ more or that's a, excuse me, Emeka Buka and Ramon.
28:39I Stevenson go to our sell highs or our players to trade away.
28:43Dave is saying Michael Wilson and Jonathan Taylor. Let's start with Wilson who great matchup.
28:47And then it's Seattle. It's the Rams. It's the chiefs.
28:50Then abide. Then the Vikings. This might be a good time this week, next week to just remove all Cardinals from your roster.
28:57And I know that Wilson had this huge opportunity.
29:00It hasn't worked out the way that we hoped you shouldn't expect to get a lot for Michael Wilson.
29:05And so to Jamie's point, again, this is not a sell high.
29:09This is a trade away. This is a sell.
29:12This is just somebody who find somebody who needs a receiver this week.
29:16And we'll give you something decent for Wilson, hoping that Wilson comes through for a big game against Dallas.
29:21And he might, and then don't expect much from Wilson the rest of the way.
29:26He's not been able to beat teams. And that's been the problem the last three weeks.
29:31I kind of break up Michael Wilson's schedule is like, you know, he's had this horrible stretch.
29:36He gets a reprieve this week with Dallas. And then as you mentioned, Seattle Rams chiefs, that's terrible.
29:41If you can get through that Washington, Philadelphia, by week jets, saints, Raiders, I think is a pretty favorable schedule to end it.
29:48That being said, he played Detroit three weeks ago and had four catches for 30 yards on seven targets.
29:54But I don't know, Dave, if you could easily look this up because you're good with, with this stat stuff.
30:00Depends what you're saying. I talked about it with digs.
30:03If you get seven targets per game, you're usually really good.
30:06This guy's gotten seven targets or more in every single game.
30:09He has 66 targets in seven games so far.
30:12He's got to be among the leaders in, in targets per game.
30:16So it's almost like the odds are stacked in his favor, just because of all the target volume.
30:21And I'd like to know how many wide receivers have averaged seven or more targets per game and not scored at least,
30:28let's say 13 PPR fantasy points, or let's say 14 PPR fantasy points.
30:32Cause that's a top 24 receiver right now in a season.
30:35Yeah. I don't know if we could look that up.
30:38Um, I can try. I might need more than a minute for that.
30:42It's okay. It's okay. But, but he gets the targets.
30:45It's just, they're not, he's not doing that well with them.
30:48They also throw 40 times a game. Uh, all right.
30:51And then, um, Taylor. Yeah. What's, uh, what's your thought on Jonathan Taylor here?
30:55Well, the Colts are saying that they're not going to, they, they don't want to trade Jonathan Taylor.
31:01I don't know why they wouldn't unless they're just not getting good offers.
31:05Well, we say that, but I don't know if it's going to happen.
31:09And because I don't know that it's going to happen, I can't say it with the same confidence you're saying, maybe, you
31:15know, uh, Carly or say Gordon, uh, you're, you're reading her notebook and you know, these things, I don't know these things.
31:22If, if they end up trading him, sure. He's going to be great.
31:26If they don't, we know the track record of Jonathan Taylor on bad Colts teams when they're not winning games.
31:32We haven't quite seen that this year because they've lost their fair share of games and he's done mostly well in all those games.
31:39And this isn't a, get him off your team.
31:42I don't feel the same way about Taylor as I do Michael Wilson, but I do wonder if you're going to get
31:48less for him and trade after week nine, when they don't trade them away and he's locked into the Colts for the rest of the year.
31:56And then the types of things that we've talked about before with running backs on bad teams, where they have a hang
32:03now, and then they're, they don't play in a game in that extent.
32:07So the rest of the year where the team, obviously with the intention of keeping them long-term, we'll just want to put
32:13them in bubble wrap and not have them play.
32:16That's the case for Seth McGowan to be on rosters right now.
32:20But if they, if they hang on to him and for now, it sounds like that's their plan question mark.
32:26Then I don't, I don't know if he's going to be able to return the value that you'd want.
32:31So if you've got Taylor and I've got them in a couple of leagues, I might be inclined to see what I could get for him.
32:39I'm not going to give them away. This ain't charity.
32:42I'm trying to see if I can get what would be close to first round value for Jonathan Taylor.
32:48All right. We've got some Jonathan Taylor trades from our leagues.
32:51I could share this page, but it is visually not.
32:54Don't share the page. Okay. It's so awful, but it works.
32:57Jonathan Taylor for Brock. It works. Oh, the ripoff much rather than Bowers.
33:01Really? Yeah. I don't, I don't think it's, it's a ripoff.
33:05I still think you can get a little bit more again, position scarcity.
33:09There, there is the chance that Taylor gets traded.
33:11Jamie, you're, you're confident that he will. I, I think that Taylor carries a little bit more value than Brock.
33:17Yeah. I'm surprised to hear you say that. Cause you got the Mendoza factor.
33:21Just don't know how that's going to play. Yeah.
33:24I don't think the Mendoza factors. I mean, it's that, you know, Bowers has just been blessed with such great quarterback play so far.
33:31You just don't know how it's going to look like we know.
33:35You also don't know if Taylor goes to a team that already has a running back in place where he's going to share it to some capacity.
33:43Oh my gosh. That would be, that would be ridiculous.
33:46I mean, I hope that doesn't happen. If you acquire Jonathan Taylor and you don't make him a basically a workhorse, I mean, they could take him off.
33:55He plays a lot on third down and he gets four targets a game.
33:59So that, you know, that could change. Um, everything, anything could change.
34:02There's okay, fine. There's some question marks on either side.
34:05Uh, let's see. This is a Bejal Tootin and Malik neighbors for Devante Smith and Jonathan Taylor.
34:10I would do that. Rather the Tootin side. Yeah, me too.
34:14I think I would too, because we, we don't know about Devante Smith.
34:18Absolutely. He was a tough one on the trade chart this week.
34:21I didn't know how low to move him. Uh, how about Matthew Golden and Brees Hall for Jonathan Taylor and Jordan Love?
34:28You get Hall and Golden, you give up Taylor and Love.
34:31I think the Taylor side is higher. Rather have Hall and Golden at this point.
34:36Ah, interesting. You know, I don't, I'm not loving my Brees Hall right now.
34:40In fact, Jamie, I got a trade offer out for you.
34:43Yeah, I don't like that trade. I'm giving you, why?
34:46It's not that bad. Jordan Love and, I didn't say it was bad.
34:50I just don't like it. Jordan, you should love it.
34:53Jordan, Jordan Love and Brees Hall for DeAndre Swift.
34:56I think you should love it. Uh, all right, Jamie, let's talk about players you want to trade away.
35:02Tony Pollard and Chris Olave. Interesting. All right, Olave.
35:04I just want to say one game, I think it was the Giants game.
35:08He had four for 43 on a touchdown on seven targets.
35:12Uh, he was, I think he was sick that week.
35:15He didn't play that many snaps, but it's 46, 43 and 56 yards in his last three games against Minnesota at the
35:21Giants, who are number one wide receiver slayers, apparently, and Pittsburgh.
35:25Uh, all right, so Olave, um, Jonathan Taylor or Olave?
35:28Uh, Olave still. Olave over Taylor? Yeah. Me, oh my.
35:31It's really close. I think I'd rather have, I think you can get more for Taylor in trade.
35:36I'm just nervous that Taylor goes to a situation that's slightly worse or potentially much worse because he's not going to be used on passing those.
35:44You think about what he was prior to the last two years, and he was great leading the NFL in rushing yards,
35:50but just not involved in the passing game. Yeah.
35:53Right. That was like kind of an Anthony Richardson thing in one year, but, um, all right.
35:58Uh, so, and anything else you wanted to say about Olave?
36:02Again, you're not giving him away. You're just trying to maximize the value for someone that could take a little bit of
36:08a step back if there is the addition of Tyson and Vele still has a role and Jawan Johnson still has a role.
36:15So, Shuck is right now top five in pass attempts.
36:18I don't think that's going to dramatically change because their run game is probably still going to stink even with Travis HN
36:25coming back, but trying to turn him into an elite player, elite for elite, great for great, whatever you want to label
36:31these guys, like that's the type of move you can make, and you could turn him hopefully into a potential starting running back.
36:38Would you turn? Have you thought at all about, I want to go back to Taylor.
36:43Have you thought at all about the teams you wish Taylor could go to?
36:47Like if you could, if you had to do a rank list maybe?
36:51It, if you haven't, okay, I'm just wondering. My, my guess is the Seattle scenario is not going to happen because why
36:58would they just trade Nelson there and then not make it some sort of a package deal or just totally both two,
37:04two for two or whatever the case may be.
37:07Sure. Um, it's probably the giants or the Vikings at this point, just based on the, the, the rumors.
37:13And so, I would love to see him in Minnesota.
37:16Cause I think he just pushes the other two guys to the bench.
37:20Probably the same thing for the giants because it doesn't seem like they're stuck on scatterboo, but I don't know.
37:26I just, I just think anywhere he goes right now from where the season started, where you drafted him, it's just a continued sliding scale downward.
37:34The giants have traded a few mid round picks already.
37:37Like they traded for JJ McCarthy. Uh, I think they don't have a fourth or a fifth round pick.
37:42So I'd be a little 27. Yeah, I think so.
37:45But they could trade 28. I mean, sure. Yeah, they could.
37:49Yeah. I mean, they make sense. So Minnesota makes sense.
37:52I wouldn't mind to see Denver in there. Yeah.
37:54They don't have their third or no, they do have the third.
37:58It's fourth, fifth, uh, that they don't have. Yeah.
38:01Okay. Look, obviously he could stay, but the staying also is bad for him.
38:05I think that's, uh, that's our trade talk for now.
38:08Oh, did you talk about Paul? You didn't talk about Tony Pollard.
38:11Yeah. Again, just maximizing value for somebody that had his best game of the season, which I don't think is going to be close to replicable.
38:19He's going to still be in the number two running back range.
38:23So you can see what his production has been, but look, should have had four touchdowns.
38:28It was, it was amazing performance and I hope he continues to be involved in the passing game.
38:33That's kind of been the formula for success. Every game that he's had at least two receptions, he's been 13 PPR points or more.
38:40So keep that going Tennessee. Um, but this is just, you know, a bad team.
38:45I'm surprised he's not getting, you know, some, some trade talk also just because there's been this, well, you just don't hear it.
38:52You know, there, there's no, there's no buzz for, Hey, we got to go at Tony Pollard.
38:57Like if you're again, Minnesota, the giants, you know, any of these teams that are in the market for it, he's going to cost significantly less.
39:05And maybe he's not an upgrade over Jordan Mason, Aaron Jones.
39:08Maybe he's not an upgrade over Scataboo, but maybe he is just another piece of the puzzle for a team.
39:14That's looking to add some, you know, running back help.
39:17Uh, wouldn't be surprised if the Titans move him.
39:20Would you trade Tony Pollard for a Mecca, Buka, DJ more?
39:23Yes. To get those receivers. Yeah. And digs. Yeah.
39:26Same thing. Yeah. He's very low on the trade chart.
39:29Interesting. Okay. Uh, so Dave's got some notes. Dave already told you that in 2025, there were 27 wide receivers with seven or more targets per game.
39:37And 10 of them did not score 14 or more PPR fantasy points.
39:41That's a lot. The year before though, not quite as bad.
39:44They were 38 wide receivers who had seven or more targets per game.
39:48And 10 of them did not get to 14 points per game.
39:51So that's 28 of 38. That did get to 10, 14 or more points per game.
39:56You know what? Seven or more. Yeah. That includes everybody in the league.
40:00That's not just wide receivers. Oh, okay. You want just the wide receiver specifics.
40:04That's okay. I mean, it's the same. I mean, it's going to be about the same thing.
40:09All right. Thanks for that info. And we'll be right back.
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42:44Yeah. Good schedules, bad schedules. And I think this is important, Dave, I'm sorry, but you're saying that only eight of 33
42:50wide receivers in 2024 who averaged seven or more targets per game didn't reach 14 points per game.
42:56Yep. So I think last year was such a bad year for wide receivers, but the two years before that, about 75%
43:02of wide receivers or players who averaged seven or more targets per game reached 14 PPR fantasy points per game.
43:08And that's a really solid number. So keep that in mind.
43:12It was nine out of 24 in 2025, nine out of 24.
43:15That was just wide receivers. Okay. I mean, yeah.
43:18I mean, it's basically the same numbers I gave you before.
43:21There weren't enough tight ends to kind of tilt that one way or the other.
43:26All right. Good schedules. You know, I, I kind of try to try to make this a little bit more general and not, I don't know.
43:34Things can change so much with position value, you know, versus different positions, sorry, opponents versus different positions.
43:39So I looked for, you know, I look for Dallas and Arizona and Las Vegas and, you know, the giants for passing games and who else?
43:47Washington, Tennessee, and basically Chicago, I think is a great schedule rest of season, Denver, Minnesota.
43:52I think Tennessee, I think Carnell Tate, if we look at his schedule, Carnell Tate has beginning in week 13, Washington, Detroit,
43:58Indianapolis, Las Vegas, and Pittsburgh in week 17. But that's a great stretch.
44:02He's got Dallas in there before that could be a little tricky.
44:06The thing with wide receiver is like, there are three teams that are doing horribly against wide receivers that I don't know if I should include them.
44:14And that's Houston, Jacksonville, and Philadelphia. Cause you could see for, for a number one wide receiver, why that would be tough.
44:20They have, you know, cornerbacks and Travis Hunter and Quinion Mitchell and Derek Stingley that could do work, but those three, so
44:27I didn't really include them in the list, Philadelphia, Houston, Jacksonville, but they are so far dreadful against wide receivers.
44:33So Carnell Tate stands out to me. Yeah. The bears passing game.
44:37I think like they get Seattle this week, they get Tampa Bay next week.
44:41They get a buy. That's kind of a tough stretch, new Orleans, Detroit, Jacksonville, Miami, Buffalo, green Bay, Detroit to finish after
44:47their week 11 by holy cow wheels up for the bears offense.
44:51Wait, am I right? Am I right here? They're week 10 by after the week, 10 by week 11 on for the bears.
44:58Wow. It looks great at running back. Chase Brown stood out to me.
45:02The Seahawks guys, the set trap, maybe Travis H and look at Travis H and down the stretch.
45:07And he's got green Bay, Carolina, Tampa Bay is tough.
45:10Arizona, Atlanta. It's pretty favorable. Even before that. I mean, the saints, I think have a pretty good run schedule going forward
45:17and maybe well, they have Tampa in week 15.
45:20That's going to be tough, but yeah, Arizona and then Atlanta in the fantasy semi and finals is pretty good.
45:26Jeremiah love has a good schedule. Well, if he can get things going beginning in, I'd say maybe week 12 or 13,
45:32Washington hasn't been as good against the run, but forget them.
45:36Eagles have been bad lately by week and week 14 jets, saints, jets, saints, Raiders in the fantasy playoffs for Jeremiah love.
45:42And I have no idea what his role is going to be, but those were the good schedules that stood out to me, Dave, anything to add?
45:50I'd have to go through some of my notes to, to double check on that, but I agree with most of what you're saying.
45:57Yeah. Just keep in mind the injuries that are going to occur.
46:01Of course, but you know, it's too, like, I mean, obviously there's things that can change and make a good defense turn to do, do pretty quickly.
46:09The Rams are an example of that. We all thought that the Rams were going to be a terrible nightmare matchup before the season started.
46:17And then they took on a bunch of injuries.
46:19When those guys get healthy, it's going to go back to being theoretically a very difficult matchup.
46:2449ers are about to get nasty. Yeah. Their pass rush just got a lot better with Buckner.
46:30Yeah. there, I feel like, yeah. All right. But, um, bad schedules.
46:33I don't love it for AJ Brown. And this sort of depends on how you feel about Miami.
46:39Yeah. I'm with you on this one, but well, actually I think he plays Miami in week 18.
46:44So, but he plays them this week. Great. I'll be lounging by then.
46:48Wait. Uh, yeah, he plays them this week, but AJ Brown has, uh, Miami this week, their third best against receivers because
46:55only two receivers have more than six targets against them, but whatever.
46:58I don't think I'm sitting him then green Bay, which is great.
47:02Detroit, which is great. Then a buy chargers bills.
47:04Everything's looking great. I it's fine for the next five or six weeks.
47:08After that, Minnesota at Kansas city, their second best against wide receivers.
47:12Have they faced anyone just JSN? And he was great.
47:15So I don't know, but they, you know, they're Kansas city jets, Denver.
47:19I mean, it's three of the last four games are Minnesota, Kansas city, Denver.
47:23I don't know if that's enough for you to be like, I don't want AJ Brown.
47:28I think he's a decent by low right now.
47:31Um, but it's not easy. Drake London has a bad schedule.
47:34I talked about this last week. You know, I don't know how much it matters to me, so we'll see how much
47:41it matters to you, but he's got Tampa Bay twice.
47:44They've been phenomenal against the pass. He's got Cincinnati, which has a shutdown, you know, a very good corner.
47:49He's got Kansas city. He's got a bi-week. He's got Minnesota.
47:53You know, there's some good matchups in there too.
47:55Detroit, Cleveland, Washington, at least two of those are good, but it's mostly bad matchups plus a buy for Drake London.
48:02Is that Jamie? It's, it's a much better schedule for Kyle pits.
48:05Just as far as like fantasy points allowed to tight ends, like there's Minnesota.
48:09And then I don't know if there's anybody else that makes you really scared.
48:14Plus the role has changed for Kyle pits and he's much more of a short area target anyway.
48:19So I don't know if matchups matter as much, they're using them in the red zone.
48:24It's on, I, this is a, this is a player you could theoretically trade for, even though the cost is going to
48:30be more than what it was a couple of weeks ago.
48:34Jamie, when I give you that schedule for Drake, London, Tampa Bay, twice Cincinnati, Kansas city, Minnesota, that do anything negative, positive or negative.
48:41I mean, if you're, if you're looking to acquire him and you're trying to acquire him by comparison to somebody else that
48:48has a more favorable schedule, it's in the same range, you know?
48:51So you're looking at neighbors and Olave and CD lamb, you know, those types of receivers, cause he's in the top six, seven and eight conversation.
48:59Um, that should maybe sway what you're trying to give up for him.
49:03But I mean, look, Drake London is going to make plays against everybody.
49:07Yeah. You know, he may not, he may not have 20 PPR points against the Vikings, but it probably still have 13 or 14, you know?
49:15So good players show up averaging over nine targets per game in his past four.
49:19I think if you look at the Vikings, this is going to be a really important week for assessing them rest of season.
49:26Cause they are the worst matchup in fantasy, I'd say, but they've only faced one good team offense.
49:31Well, I'm sorry. They faced the Packers in week one.
49:34Packers did okay against them. They faced the bears in week two.
49:38How much of that was their defense? How much of that was the bad weather?
49:43I don't know, but they did a great job against the bears who were coming off a 59 point game in week one.
49:49Uh, so since then their schedule has been cake.
49:52Um, Garrett Wilson is a guy who's pretty good for the next.
49:56I mean, if the matchups are great for like the next five weeks, mostly, I mean, I don't know.
50:01Mark Cooper wrong. What's that? I don't know. Mark Cooper's name wrong.
50:05Yeah. Well, sure. But then specifically for Garrett Wilson, his last four games are the Broncos, Patrick Sertan, the Cardinals, the Patriots and Christian Gonzalez and the Vikings.
50:13Like Omar Cooper jr. Being a 55% slot rate guy, he's not getting Sertan.
50:18He's not getting Christian Gonzalez. So that is Garrett Wilson.
50:21I think he's got, he's got right now, if everyone's healthy, maybe the worst late season schedule, just because of the number one corners that he's facing.
50:29Yeah. And I mean, again, just to play devil's advocate.
50:32Sertan's missed what? Three games now. And Gonzalez already missed one.
50:35I can't, I have to do this segment. I've gotten a lot of questions.
50:39I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just, I'm just saying like, you know, you're, you're, you're going to put some actionable items
50:46for people of making trades and, you know, that they have on their team, maybe trading those guys away because they're scared.
50:53And I think you just, you have to caution a little bit in that.
50:57Yes. It looks bad on paper to a certain extent.
51:00It also may not be the same way when we're talking week 15, 16, 17.
51:04It may not. I don't really know what to do with that.
51:08I mean, for example, a quarterback could get hurt and why would I trade for a wide receiver?
51:13Correct. Yeah. Tell me like a little court, you know, so, but I'm just telling you like there's actual, uh, real life things that have happened.
51:21Sertan's hurt and Gonzalez has missed the game. I know, but they're both going to be back.
51:26Like Gonzalez is back and Gonzalez. Agreed. Agreed. But that's the point though.
51:30It was like, it's, it's just may not be exactly that, but, and to be fair, Dendro's defense has played very well without Sertan.
51:37Yeah. And they did last year or two years ago, whenever he got hurt as well.
51:42Um, Caroline. And by the way, if Patrick Sertan doesn't necessarily mean Garrett Wilson can't have a good game.
51:48He didn't, he had a terrible game against him last year, but Devante Adams was one-on-one against Patrick Sertan for basically an entire night.
51:55And he had one of his best games in recent memory.
51:58All right. You're talking about the hall of famers though, with Stafford on this.
52:03It's yeah. I, I've, I would fear Garrett Wilson against Sertan in this environment.
52:07Carolina's at green Bay. I will save time for your by low and sell high tweets, but, uh, Carolina's at green Bay Thursday night.
52:14Are we starting everyone in this game? Except for the tight ends for the Panthers and the DSTs.
52:19Yeah. Yeah. This has been your Thursday night preview.
52:22I think we've got a little, little worry about half should have a little worry about Bryce young.
52:27I agree. I am playing around. I still have him as a low end starter, but you've go ahead.
52:33You know, we we've seen, we've seen some up and down performances from him mostly when he's been under pressure and the
52:40Packers haven't been the best at that. They've, they've shown up at times, but not fantastic.
52:45And for what it's worth, you know, Jordan love through 45 times last week, he still got over his threshold of 30 past attempts or more.
52:52It's now 21 of 32, I believe, um, in his career with 30 more past attempts.
52:57So 20 more fantasy points. Um, but I think you just look at it and you say, Hey, you trust what Bryce
53:04young has done the majority of the season and you trust what Jordan love has done the majority of the season.
53:10And then that just to trickle down to the receivers and everybody else.
53:14If there was ever a team that had the tackle depth to absorb their starting right tackle, having a fractured fibula would
53:21actually end up being the Panthers because remember they began the year with both backup tackles starting for them.
53:26And so now they've got their first round rookie replacing Taylor Moten.
53:30And I think that that's okay. Uh, I'm, I'm keeping an eye on the Damian Lewis injury at left guard.
53:36He's been a really good run blocker and pass protector.
53:39And if he's not there, that will make the day worse for Bryce young, but they've got to be expecting it at this point.
53:46In fact, Dave Canales even mentioned it immediately after their game against Tampa.
53:50He knows that defenses are going to try and emulate what the bucks did to try and harass Bryce young and make it an ugly game.
53:58The secondary for green Bay has played mostly well.
54:01They've especially been good as far as EPA per drop back against slot receivers.
54:05So maybe you downgrade expectations a little bit for Jalen Coker, but I have a hard time finding 20 other receivers that
54:11I'd rather start ahead of Jalen Coker. McMillan's going to be one of those guys.
54:16I would start out of Jalen Coker. And then you just have to keep for the Packers.
54:21You just have to keep an eye on Matthew golden.
54:24If he practices on Wednesday should be fine for the game.
54:27And you, you start them with maybe a little lower expectations than normal.
54:31Hopefully he hangs onto the ball. If he plays.
54:34So we're not starting Jacoby percent or Kirk cousins or any waiver wire guy over Bryce young.
54:39I would start cousins over him. You would. He's in that mix.
54:43It's really close between them. I wouldn't blame you if you did or didn't.
54:47I'm sorry. I would, I would start Brissette over him as well.
54:50Interesting. Yeah. I don't have Brissette over him. I've got cousins.
54:54And for now I have Gino over Bryce young too.
54:57The Packers are fifth best against quarterbacks. That, that is mostly a schedule thing.
55:01Uh, they faced a lot of backups. Yeah. And, um, and they did great against Dak Prescott.
55:06He had 13 points on 54 pass attempts. Jared golf last week scored 23 points.
55:11Carson Wentz in the week one scored 23 fantasy points, six point per passing touchdown league.
55:15So the only good quarterback that struggled against the Packers was Dak Prescott, but they're not giving up huge games.
55:21I mean, no one scored more than 23.2 fantasy points, I believe against the Packers.
55:26So, um, that's Bryce young, but I will, I love this stat before last week, Bryce young had thrown for 280 or more yards in every game.
55:34That's really impressive. He was, I believe it was one of four quarterbacks in the last 15 years.
55:39I think pro football focus. I read this on, I said this on one of our shows when it happened.
55:45Um, one of four quarterbacks in the last 15 years to go for two 80 and one in each of their first five games.
55:53And it was like Rogers, Peyton Manning and drew breeze for the other three.
55:57Okay. So Chuba Hubbard, Chuba Hubbard or Josh Jacobs.
56:00Thank you. So got to go Hubbard, but Jacobs has got a better matchup.
56:04I mean, the Panthers have just been absolutely abysmal, you know, two games so far this season, they've allowed over 200 yards
56:10rushing to the opposing team, Tampa Bay last week in Chicago in week one.
56:15So this should be an opportunity for Jacobs to get some production on the ground.
56:19Still should have fresh legs too. I'm not going to love Hubbard quite as much.
56:24If there's no Damian Lewis, I really think that he makes that big of a difference for that line.
56:29The Packers run defense is actually solid, not great, but it's solid.
56:33And they've given up the fifth most, sixth most fantasy points, the running backs.
56:37But a lot of that was B. John Robinson having a massive game.
56:41And then they faced Gibbs last week. He had 34 touches and he scored 19.3 points.
56:46I think the, I think it's like my feeling for this game is like, I think the may, the big four guys of the Panthers have earned it.
56:54Like they've earned your trust. Sure. It should be a, you know, a pretty high scoring game, 47 and a half point total.
57:01So I think you start them, obviously, you know, you could get rid of, you could get away from young or whatever,
57:08but I think I'm a little less confident. You know, it's like, I'm, it's not going to impact my decisions to start
57:14or sit Chuba Hubbard and the two receivers. They're basically must start guys, but I'm a little, I'm a little nervous about it.
57:21A little nervous. One other point. If you were equating the Panthers to like a real life situation, like they would be
57:28at the top box on the show. What do you mean?
57:31Cause they've earned it. They've earned it. But no, because after last week, I think they're bumped down a little bit to the middle box.
57:39I'll be the Panthers for this, for this segment.
57:41All right. Now I'm in the middle. Dave is going to be the Packers, but Jordan love must start guy.
57:47Well, no, I wouldn't say that he's seventh to ninth in the rankings.
57:51He's thrown multiple. He's had multiple touchdowns, whether it's been passing or rushing in every game.
57:56And again, he's been robbed of fantasy points by dropped balls.
57:59It's pathetic at this point. Carolina is a fine matchup, but what do we do if Matthew golden doesn't play Dave?
58:06What, like what happens to Jordan love right now?
58:09He's top nine in the rankings, but what if golden doesn't play?
58:12I think you still start Jordan love. I wouldn't do anything drastic and, and move them into like the 15 range by any stretch.
58:19He still has Christian Watson. He still has Tucker craft.
58:22He still has Josh Jacobs who made plays through the passing game last week.
58:27I think he'll be okay. You lower expectations a little bit.
58:30If golden, even if golden play, obviously there's a rankings adjustment to make with golden in that case, but I don't think
58:36you, you pull love and you do something drastic like, uh, Kyler Murray or Michael panics ahead of him.
58:42Jamie aspiration play would be a saving on Williams too.
58:45Okay. There you go. Yeah. He's been playing a lot more lately.
58:49It's true. Christian Watson. Jamie has scored 10.7 PPR four points or less in three of his last four games.
58:55We have any concerns here. I mean, slightly, you know, I, I think we just, this is just one of those defenses
59:01where they are without their top two cornerbacks. So talented players like these two receivers should have an opportunity to make plays
59:08because they're going to get so many chances down the field.
59:11So I think you still trust Christian Watson and Christian Watson is top 10 easily.
59:16If there's no Matthew gold, what's the difference? Start starter sit wise with Tucker craft with or without Matthew golden.
59:22Jamie, you can start starting him either way. You'll have higher expectations if there's no golden, but he's a guy that makes me nervous.
59:29I mean, like not really, because I, I think he has such big upside every week.
59:34It's a neutral matchup so far. They've had Panthers have had some really good games against tight ends, some bad games against
59:40tight ends, but this, again, he has a 16.3% target share.
59:44That's really low. But that's a team in green Bay that throws a lot.
59:48He's, he's had at least seven targets in two of his last three games.
59:52He's had at least 8.7 PPR points. That's not the great floor, but it's at least like halfway decent.
59:58He's had at least that much in each of his past three games.
60:02And Carolina is one of these teams that habitually plays cover three.
60:05So they're, they're trying to keep their defenders back.
60:08They don't want to give up the big play.
60:11And so they might have a safety down in the box a little bit more, and they're certainly going to do that to try and slow down Jacobs.
60:19I don't think they're going to do it to try and slow down Tucker craft.
60:24I think he could get some good targets off of play action and, and continue to be at least a decent fantasy tight end.
60:31All right, let's read some questions then to help us out here.
60:35Hey, one more thing. And I didn't mean to scare people off of Chuba Hubbard by talking about Carolina's offensive line.
60:41I forgot about this. Zaire Franklin is one of the top run stoppers for green Bay, like low miss tackle rate.
60:47He's good against the run. He has a hairline fracture.
60:50I don't believe he's playing. Excuse me. It's hard to play with a hairline fracture.
60:55Would you play Tucker craft or Harold Fannin jr.
60:57Do you have a hairline fracture in your throat?
61:00Sounds worse than that. He might just have a hair in his throat.
61:04I would go with craft over Fannin craft or Laporta against the Vikings craft.
61:08I have Laporta higher for now. Crafter Hawkinson in the best matchup for fantasy.
61:12Craft by a nose craft or Goddard at Washington.
61:15Correct. K R A F T. How about crafter Loveland at Seattle?
61:19Loveland. Agreed. Brissette or Bryce young from the chat.
61:21Brissette for me. I'll take Bryce. Coker or DJ more.
61:24Coker. Coker. Jacobs or chase Brown. Jacobs. Jacobs. Yeah.
61:27I remember that this is the arguably worst run defense in football.
61:31He's facing. I wouldn't expect the catches. He had a 16, 17% target share last week.
61:36That's extremely high for Josh Jacobs. But, um, I expect some, I mean, I expect some work in a passing game.
61:42He also dropped a touchdown. Of course he did.
61:45Cause he's a Packer Coker or burden or Jeremy Bernard.
61:48Coker. I will take, I believe I have burden over Coker.
61:51Coker over Bernard. These are close between burden and Coker.
61:54These are fun questions here. Uh, Coker, Watson and Jacobs pick two.
61:57Dun, dun, dun, dun, nah, go pack, go. Oh, you're starting the Packer.
62:01Okay. Yeah. No, that way do that again. Dun, dun, dun, nan, go pack, go.
62:06All right, all right. Coker, Golden, or Tootin? Pick two.
62:09I'm saying Coker. I would say Coker, assuming Golden plays.
62:12If we hear about a snap count or something like that for Golden, I might change my tune.
62:17Caleb Williams at Seattle or Jordan Love? Love. Jordan Love.
62:20Bryce Young or Jared Goff against the Vikings? Young.
62:23Young. Young as of now. Mel, I have this very decision to make, and I'm nervous about it.
62:28Jordan Love or Lamar Jackson? I am going to go with Lamar Jackson, but I am nervous about that.
62:34Jackson is my number two quarterback this week, so I'd go with Jackson.
62:38I just don't know how healthy he is, and we saw last year when Jackson played hurt.
62:43It was awful. But he referenced that. He basically said, like, I don't want to do that again, so I hope, you know.
62:50I think that might be why he didn't play last week.
62:53Don't do that. It's Buffalo. All right. This is Buffalo.
62:56And sit the DSTs, and that is Thursday Night Football.
62:59Na-na-na-na-na-na. Nah! Dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun. I don't really get this vibe from me, from bada-bing, bada-boom.
63:04I bet Adam is secretly very good at karate.
63:06Do I give a karate vibe? Yes. You have to say karate.
63:10Karate. Yes. You look like your hands are lethal weapons.
63:13Yeah. Not at Christmas. You should go watch- I mean, look at what you're doing to your shirts.
63:18Go watch Jesse's karate movie. You'll feel very simpatic.
63:21Yes! He has a karate movie? Yeah. I forget what it's called.
63:25Ah, there's got to be a joke in here.
63:27Yeah, it's called, Jamie doesn't know the names of all of his cousins' movies.
63:32Like, what would a karate movie be called? Now You Blank Me.
63:35Now You Kick Me. Now You Kick Me. The Art of Self-Defense is the name of the movie.
63:41That's it, yes. 2019. That's my yobby. It's actually a very good movie.
63:44Adam gives off- I've always meant to see that one.
63:47Ralph Macchio vibes, always causing problems. I don't appreciate that, but I do appreciate the fact that, yeah, I think at this point we've all seen it.
63:56We all know that Daniel LaRusso was really as much to blame as anyone for all the issues in Karate Kid.
64:02He was a little jerk. They were jerks first, but he really didn't have to do the shower thing.
64:08All right. It's true. Tweets here. We have to run through these kind of fast.
64:12I kind of want to quiz Jamie on Jesse's movie titles now.
64:16That's a good game. Sounds RS says, I would sell high on Likely and buy low on Laporta and Kraft.
64:22I get that. Definitely buy low on Laporta. Kraft has still been very productive, so I don't know if you're buying low.
64:28But yeah, you could sell high on Likely. Why would you sell high on Likely and what would you want to get for him?
64:36Is he not top four tight end rest of season?
64:39He is. He certainly has the potential to be, but quarterback change has been okay in the fourth quarter.
64:44Terrible in the full game for McCarthy. Right. It's true.
64:47For Likely, yeah. And a lot of people drafted Likely in the back half of fantasy drafts.
64:52They might have had a second tight end. Or you might have picked up Hunter Henry or...
64:57Sure. ...Jawan Johnson or any of these guys that have been streaming options for you.
65:02This made an impact on the trade chart. There are so many tight ends that are like...
65:07I don't want to call them streamers because they've been pretty good for the most part.
65:12It's the Hunter Henrys. It's the TJ Hawkinsons. It's the Chigo Conquos.
65:15Like, these are guys that are going to be able to give you some solid PPR points.
65:21But they're out there on the waiver wire still in a bunch of leagues.
65:25And it kind of devalues what you would get in trade for.
65:28Pitts, Kraft. I'm not talking about the elite tier tight ends.
65:32Those guys are studs. But even Tyler Warren is now in this conversation of guys who are...
65:37Yeah, they're good and you might expect some good numbers.
65:40But you could just go to the waiver wire and find somebody...
65:43But Likely has been the best. ...who can get you two or three points less.
65:48Yeah, Likely isn't a part of that group either.
65:51Yet. Yet. He could be, right? Like, he could get worse for him.
65:55He's probably not that much better than Laporta and Kraft rest of season.
65:58So if you sold likely and got Laporta and got something else with it, it's probably a good trade, right?
66:04Yeah. Okay. By the way, just going back to something we talked about earlier, ESPN reporting that now Tony Pollard believed to
66:11be more likely to be dealt than Jonathan Taylor.
66:14That's Dan Graziano. Oh, okay. Okay. Do you know the name of Jesse's movie where he played Mark Zuckerberg?
66:19I know that he's smart to not have taken the sequel.
66:23Do you know the name of the movie where he played a blue bird?
66:27Yes. Yeah, you're not saying the names of these movies.
66:30Rio 1 and Rio 2. Yeah, there was a sequel.
66:33All right, all right. Come on. I got to ask some questions here.
66:37Danny Perez wants to know if we should sell high on Jalen Warren.
66:41Yeah. I mean, you can get superstar receiver for him.
66:44Pretty close. But he wouldn't make my trade away list.
66:47See, this is the difference between the two, I would say.
66:50Yeah. Yeah, so you could probably, you wouldn't move Jalen Warren unless you got a superstar receiver.
66:55Right. But most people who drafted Jalen Warren did not draft him as a must-start guy.
67:00So if you have two other players that are playing well at the running back spot, you might be able, and your
67:07receivers suck, like you might be able to turn him into an upper echelon guy.
67:11Someone on Twitter with a name that I can't pronounce says, what are we doing with, it's just like six letters that make no sense.
67:19I wouldn't say that, but anyway. What are the letters?
67:22I wasn't trying to be offensive there. I just, I don't know what this means.
67:26Are the letters offensive? No. Then what are the letters?
67:29I-S-A-H-O-M. I can't believe you said that on the air.
67:32What are we doing with Devontae Smith and Ladd McConkie?
67:35McConkie's going to play this week. He practiced on Monday, so he's trending in the right direction.
67:40And hopefully Devontae Smith gets in some practice, but it doesn't seem likely at this point.
67:45The problem is that if you trade those guys away, you're not going to get anywhere close to what their values would
67:52be once they start to piece together just at least being on the field and seeing seven-plus targets.
67:57If they get to that point, their values will go up a little bit, and you know what the upside is, especially
68:04in the case of Smith, even with Tanner McKee, that he could be just a really good fantasy receiver.
68:09Not the best, but really good. I have such conflicted feelings on that.
68:13Tanner McKee is averaging more passing yards per game than Jalen Hurts, and it's because he's just throwing so much more.
68:20And even if you remove a game where Hurts had like 93 yards against the Rams, he's still averaging more yards per game, barely, than Jalen Hurts.
68:28And I did think that was going to happen.
68:30But when I watch McKee, if there is any semblance of a pass rush, he's going down.
68:36And the Cowboys don't have one. So I don't know if Washington, they don't really have one either.
68:41But eventually he's going to face teams that do it.
68:44The schedule is great for the next five or six weeks for the Eagles and then Seattle, Houston, 49ers in the fantasy playoffs.
68:51So if you just want someone for the regular season, Devontae Smith might be okay.
68:55But I have a big fears about the Eagles passing game and they just, I mean, they stink as a team.
69:02Right. And so if, if they know they're tanking and Devontae Smith is going to be there for a while, do they do the bubble wrap?
69:10Yeah, I think, I mean, that's absolutely within the realm of possibility.
69:13I mean, I, I put them in the top 24, but his, his value, like he used to be like way closer to the top 12, Devontae Smith.
69:22I'm going to make a joke and I feel like it's mean and I don't usually do this.
69:27Then why would you do this? I'm going to make it.
69:30I'm going to be, I'm going to be edgy.
69:33I'm going to be edgy. Oh, I thought preseason.
69:36One of the reasons I didn't want to draft Devontae Chan was because I thought if he had some type of like
69:42minor injury late in the season, they were obviously going to be terrible.
69:46They could easily just sit him down. Yeah. This was one of that's part.
69:50That was part of Jamie. I didn't think they were going to do it in week three.
69:56Oh, wow. So. And I want to end with our, it wasn't even a good joke.
70:00I want to end with our email of the day from Tyler from the TNT league based in Pittsburgh.
70:06Shout out to those Pittsburgh dudes. Uh, I wanted to quickly write in and get your thoughts on a fun league.
70:12Me and my buddy commission for the past four years, we have done a full redraft of the league.
70:18After week seven, everyone gets to keep one player from their originally drafted team and the round they took them.
70:24But besides that, everyone is on the board. It's a fun change of pace and it's honestly great for teams who have
70:31been plagued hard by injuries and would have no chance in a normal situation.
70:35Just wanted to get your overall thoughts here. Would you ever play in a league like this where you redraft, you keep
70:41one player in the round he was drafted and you redraft after week seven?
70:46Does your record stay the same? I think so.
70:48So you're just basically gutting everybody guts their roster.
70:51Everybody drafts again. Yeah. You're, you're, you're going with the knowledge that you have from the first six weeks.
70:57This is week seven. They draft or after week seven?
71:00This week they draft in week eight. Okay. So they draft this week and I mean, it's obviously it'd be a tough
71:06call if your team is loaded and you're giving away, you know, like you're seven and oh, and you're giving away the, the best team, but it's fun.
71:15I think you should keep it. I've pitched this idea before.
71:18Oh yeah. Yeah. Well, they listened. The bosses, well, they did.
71:21The bosses here did not. It's an interesting idea.
71:24Yeah. I, I, I think the, the issue is do people at the time to go to our bosses to do a league yourself?
71:31No, no, no. To have the concept as an option on CBS.
71:35So like, where they actually like promote it. Uh, I think you should have two keepers per team to make it a
71:42little more fair to the teams that did great in the draft.
71:45Uh, my question for you is like, just based on your rosters, who do you think your keeper would be?
71:51You know, I, I, you know, just generically speaking, I would say Matthew golden is one of the best keepers from the first seven weeks of the season.
72:00Well, I mean, are you keeping based on their draft value or are you keeping just one player?
72:05You keep it. That's the, you keep the, in the round they were drafted.
72:09Oh, okay. That changes things. Gotcha. So you're not just keeping everybody's first round.
72:13Right. So if you drafted Chuba Hubbard in round 10, Oh yeah, he's, you might keep him, but I mean, it does
72:20like, what do you do if you've got him or, and you've also got Jameer Gibbs.
72:25So what about free agents too? Like where does Ollie Gordon come in?
72:29That's a good question. Yeah. They would probably be maybe last round picks or round 12 picks, something like that.
72:35I think three of the guys in tonight in tomorrow night's game, Coker, Chuba Hubbard, Matthew golden, rice young too.
72:41Yeah. Yeah. We got it. Isaiah likely comes to mind.
72:44Dude, people should comment after the show about whether they would play in a league like this.
72:49Yeah. I, I, maybe we'll put one together next year.
72:52It's fine. Robo Tondo four, eight, eight, one asked what's the draft order.
72:56So is it just based on reverse order of standing?
72:59I would think so. Good question. Good question. All right.
73:02It's fun. You know, I think it may not work for some people, but it works for this league and I'm glad y'all enjoy it.
73:09Thank you. All right. Jamie, one more, one more movie.
73:12He plays a New York detective caught in a building taken over by terrorists in Los Angeles.
73:17He's in the remake. You know, the name of that movie.
73:21Uh, I know it's a Christmas movie. Um, Okay.
73:23Uh, you know what? I'm going to give the audience two more minutes.
73:27Grade the trade. Give up neighbors and Jacobs. Get JSN.
73:30That's a lot for JSN. He has. I would rather have neighbors and Coleman.
73:35I'd rather have neighbors and Jacobs. I'd rather have Jason.
73:38All right. We'll call it a C. Would you trade likely and Parker Washington for JSN?
73:42I have Loveland. Yes. I would rather have JSN.
73:45I'd rather have Jason. I got offered Lamar Jackson and Justin Jefferson for my Braylon Allen and Matthew Golden.
73:51Oh gosh. The Jackson side wins. Yeah. Yeah. By far.
73:54Unless Brees Hall gets traded. From Brad. Give up Emmanuel Wilson and Zach Charbonnet.
73:58Get AJ Brown. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, yeah. B plus.
74:01From Chesky. I'm six and one. I, this is a, this is a tough one here.
74:06I'm trading Ken Walker, Justin Jefferson and Ramondre Stevenson.
74:08Wow. Stevenson. Ken Walker, Ken Walker, Jefferson and Stevenson.
74:11I'm getting Gibbs, Luther Burden and Jeremy Bernard. I don't feel as good as Gibbs is.
74:16Yeah. Walker side. Okay. Yeah. Walker's pretty close. Yeah.
74:18I traded away Nico, Laporta, Jeremy Bernard and Kalon Black.
74:21I gave up Nico, Laporta, Bernard and Black. I got Parker Washington, DJ Moore, Blake Corum and Mark Andrews.
74:27Uh, I have, I have likely, so he doesn't need Laporta.
74:30So he's getting Parker Washington, giving up Nico. He's getting DJ Moore, giving up Laporta, Bernard and Kalon Black.
74:36He's getting Blake Corum. I like why the trade chart was invented.
74:40I like, this is a good trade. Yeah. Um, and I think it's important if like, if you're strong at a position,
74:46like you have likely in Laporta, you could in theory, lose a trade on paper and still make your team better.
74:53Cause you didn't need that guy. Both teams could win the trade.
74:56All right. Have a great day, everybody. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
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