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0:11This is the Fantasy Football Podcast. And today, we are talking about the last minute changes.
0:17Ranks are out there. You've been watching the episodes.
0:21You guys have been prepping. These are the last minute rank changes for your final drafts.
0:27What have experts been doing? What have they been doing differently?
0:31We've done a lot of focus on ECR versus ADP and where those trends are going.
0:37But this one, as we are inching closer to week one, and we are getting the final weekend in, we are taking
0:45a look at what experts are changing in their ranks going into the final weekend.
0:51Now, that can simplistically be things like, you know, I don't know, a tier one running back getting maybe suspended and putting
0:59on an exemplus and another running back moving up.
1:03Yeah, duh. We can talk about those. But also, what are some other hidden changes that rankers are starting to move up or down players?
1:12Well, we are going to be discussing that today.
1:15And joining me is Andrew Erickson as we are looking at running back last minute rank changes.
1:22And Erickson, we were talking about this off air that this is kind of like a nice other little hidden secret because ADP tells a story.
1:32But there's also something very intense about the final draft weekend as experts are getting those.
1:38You know, you might have some people that are finally locking back in or now finally making those changes.
1:45This actually might be the most important time to pay attention to what's going on on ECR, the expert consensus rank than there's ever been.
1:54Yeah, because we hopefully have our full set of data to work with.
1:59All the preseason games are in the books. I think that all the suspensions are in the books.
2:06We'll see what happens with Josh Jacobs. Fingers crossed.
2:09We'll see what happens with the Packers backfield. But we're getting as much information as we can to make the rankings as
2:18most accurate as possible as we head into final draft weekend with Labor Day coming up and for the NFL to kick
2:26off on Wednesday night when my Patriots go on the road to take on the Seattle Seahawks, the reigning Super Bowl champion.
2:34So cannot wait for that game. Cannot wait for the season to kick off.
2:40And I can't wait to get the show started with you, Welsh.
2:44Yep. And, you know, it's weird because we got the Wednesday game.
2:49We got a Thursday game. We've got to get our week one ranks out.
2:54But in between all of this, we've still got a whole nother weekend of your big draft changes.
3:01So we are going to help you identify. We are actually going to let you know and we're going to show you
3:09what the top 36 board for running backs looks like.
3:13And then we are going to give you the identifiers of who is changing.
3:18These might be some sneaky ones you're going to want to pay attention to for your final draft prep.
3:25If you guys would like to follow along with us, you can easily do so by going to fantasypros.com slash rankings.
3:33Fantasypros.com slash rankings. That's where you're going to see the overall ECR rank page.
3:38Sometimes if guys make these really big moves over a recent period of time, you're going to see little arrows up and down.
3:47Hopefully we are going to be identifying some that are not on there.
3:52But you can check full PPR, half PPR, standard.
3:55There's dynasty. There's rookies. Whatever you got. Rankings have got you covered.
4:00You're going to want to follow this because this is what is generated off of the expert consensus ranks.
4:07Where we've got like I think 100 plus people.
4:11And that's going to just keep belling over. And it's going to get bigger into this weekend.
4:17So fantasypros.com slash rankings if you would like to follow along.
4:21So what we're going to do, which is a little bit different than what we do in some rank episodes, is we're
4:29going to just get through the boards. We're going to take a look at the boards and then after we are going
4:38to identify where these changes are happening. So the top 12 on the RB board hasn't had or at least visibly had a lot of crazy changes.
4:48You've got Jameer Gibbs, B. John Robinson, Jonathan Taylor, Christian McCaffrey.
4:52That's your tier one. Tier two, five through nine is James Cook, Chase Brown, Saquon Barkley, Devon A.
4:59Chan, Ken Walker, maybe a little bit movement there.
5:02Tier three is Omerion Hampton, Derrick Henry, and Ashton Gentey.
5:06And obviously the Gentey injury and some of the questionableness of like when he's going to be out there has moved him down when he was up.
5:16So that is your top 12 at running back.
5:2013 through 24, there's some changes we're going to be hitting in here.
5:25You've got Kyron Williams at 13, Javante Williams, and Brees Hall.
5:29That is part of tier three. Tier four is a bigger group.
5:33Jeremiah Love, Travis Achen, DeAndre Swift, Bucky Irvings, Cam Scadaboo, David Montgomery, Quinchon Judkins, Basial Tootin, and Jadarian Price.
5:40That is 24 running backs in. And then the final grouping, I believe, is like our tier five where you've got 25
5:49through 36 of Travion, Ramondre, Jalen Warren, Tony Pollard, Jonathan Brooks at 29, 30 is Rico Dowdle, Marshawn Lloyd.
5:56He is like the one in this top 36, which gives that arrow up because it's been such a dramatic short-term jump.
6:04J.K. Dobbins, Blake Corum, Chuba Hubbard, Jordan Mason, and Ja'Croi Kroski-Meritt.
6:08Okay, Welsh, thank you. Bye-bye. That's your top 36.
6:12No, that's what the board looks like. What we're going to do now is we are going to help find identifiers of
6:20changes in what has been changing because we don't actually have something we're working on, though.
6:26We don't have something that will show you like the historical changes of ECR straight to your face.
6:33If you click on a player's player card and go to rankings, you can actually find like a chart that shows you some of the movement.
6:43So here are where experts have been making some changes as we focus on players.
6:48There are two top-end guys that have had some changes.
6:52Those two players are Ashton Gentry, who an overall rank was 18 overall.
6:57That has now moved to 27 on the overall.
7:00Positionally, that I think has been a couple spots, but that's a round drop we've seen in Ashton Gentry from August 1st
7:09to August 31st, so over a month. And that's the last two weeks have probably played more into it.
7:16The other one is Ken Walker, who Ken Walker has had some interesting changes where he ends up being nine on this list.
7:25I believe he was seven at one point, so we have seen like a two-positional spot change.
7:31So, Mr. Andrew Erickson, what I present to you is the two higher-end top 12 running backs.
7:37Over the last month or last two weeks, we have seen both of these guys change, and they've both gone in the negative.
7:46They've both moved backwards, a full round for Gentry, two positional spots, which isn't a full round, though, for Ken Walker.
7:54What do you think is driving, and do you buy the dips on both of these players?
8:00So Ashton Gentry is the one that makes the most sense when it comes to his dip dealing with this ankle injury
8:09that we still don't have a ton of information about.
8:12We still don't know whether or not he's going to be good to go by week one.
8:19We'll all kind of find out together, I guess, is when we start to see some of these injury reports come out next week.
8:28The thing with Gentry, for me, he didn't really move that much in terms of—well, he did move down in the tier.
8:36So basically, I had him at the front of a specific running back tier, and now he's at the bottom of a specific running back tier.
8:46So it's not like he's an avoid for me.
8:49It's just a matter of, okay, well, now we've invited all this new risk with him with this injury, and potentially maybe
8:58more of a platoon backfield with Mike Washington as he has continued to stand out during the preseason, someone that they seem
9:06like they're very high on as the offseason has progressed.
9:10And going back to some things that Clint Kubiak said originally when he became the Reddars head coach was, I want a one-two punch at running back.
9:20Like, he vocally talked about that, and we all kind of rubbed it off as well.
9:26You have Ashton Gentry. He's going to play 90% of the snaps.
9:31And, okay, then they draft Mike Washington. Still, he was a day three pick.
9:36So, okay, yeah, he'll compete for the backup. We don't even know what kind of role he'll be.
9:43But everything has kind of worked in Mike Washington's favor to, okay, Gentry gets banged up.
9:49He looks really good. He's explosive. He's big. So I think that, yeah, we could see more of a committee approach here with the Raiders backfield.
9:58So that ultimately bumps Ashton Gentry down. I still think that he is very much in play at the end of round
10:07two, as opposed to being a pick at the end of round one before we had more concerns about there being a
10:15committee and before he had this, like, ankle injury.
10:18So, again, I think he's, I'm fine with where he's going in draft still.
10:24Like, I'm fine taking that type of swing, especially if you start with a wide receiver and you're looking for a hero RB.
10:32I think Gentry can still be that guy. But I do think that, I mean, I agree with the ECR and the
10:41ADP falling to where he's now a round two, end of round two pick.
10:46Okay, so quick question on that. What did you call Ashton Gentry and Mike Washington?
10:52A what situation? One-two punch? No, no, no. What was the word you used, the specific word you used?
10:59Platoon? Platoon. Okay. Because I heard you say platoon.
11:02I was a platoon. I was like, that's like a boat.
11:06That's a word, right? Okay, no, you said it right.
11:10It's 100% a word. How you said it in the beginning, I was like, you just pulled a me, a Welshism.
11:18You just made up a word. You were like, I'll platoon.
11:22I love it. Do you think, I know you just broke this down, but if you had to pick a side, what is driving the drop more?
11:32Is it the ankle injury? At least in your mind, because I think the injury probably is the front-facing version of it.
11:41But what do you think should? Is it the ankle injury and the questionableness of when he's going to play?
11:48Or is it the potential platoon that Mike Washington actually does take away?
11:53What do you think is more deserved of driving the cost down?
11:58Because you said second round, by the way, in a 12-team, that 27 overall is moving him into the third round.
12:06Yeah, so I definitely would be in play of taking him at the beginning of the third round if he was there for me in a 12-team league.
12:16So I think that would be a really easy pick, especially if you go wide receiver or wide receiver to start your draft.
12:25I think it's the injury that's probably moving him down the most because, like I said, Clint Kubiak was talking about this
12:33stuff in March where I want a one-two punch, and most of us kind of just rush it under the rug being
12:41like, oh yeah, you're full of crap. Like, we don't believe you.
12:46Even though we have a pretty big sample size of Clint Kubiak using a two-man platoon in Seattle, despite the fact that
12:54one guy was significantly better than the other guy, and he refused to unleash Kenneth Walker until they had to.
13:02And then, oh, what do you know? They won the Super Bowl because of Ken Walker being really, really good at football.
13:10So that dovetails right into our next player that you mentioned, Ken Walker.
13:15He's going down the rankings here, also probably injury-related.
13:18Also maybe a bit of steam for Emmitt Johnson, the other rookie running back that got drafted by the Kansas City Chiefs.
13:27I liked Emmitt Johnson a lot coming out. However, I still think this is Ken Walker's backfield.
13:33And he's actually a player that I am considering moving ahead to my RB5 spot, ahead of my...
13:40I mean, I love Chase Brown so much, but I was thinking more about trying to chase the highest percentile outcomes when
13:48it comes to some of these running backs. And Pat Corain does a great job of highlighting and defining legendary running back seasons.
13:57And, you know, he looked at Chase Brown as a player that maybe doesn't have that type of legendary season type of outcome where P.
14:06Ryan is still going to play, you know, 30% of the snaps.
14:11And Chase Brown... Well, correct me if I'm wrong.
14:14Is Chase Brown ever going to be the best offensive player on his team?
14:20Yes or no? Yeah, I mean, that's... No, it's not a possibility.
14:24So if he's never going to achieve that, could he possibly be like the...
14:29Like, yeah, this doesn't mean that he can't be a good pick or he can't return value.
14:36That's not what I'm trying to say. I'm trying to say, like, Ken Walker could define this season at running back.
14:44I don't think Chase Brown could do that. Do you understand what I'm saying?
14:49Yeah, that's a really interesting point, too, because if you look at the Chiefs offense and, like, I think a gut reaction,
14:57if you ask that same question, someone would be like, well, no.
15:02And then you're like, well, actually, yeah, like, Rasheed Rice is good, but Ken Walker can legitimately...
15:08They could build the entire plane and plan out of Ken Walker, whereas Chase Brown is a really good part of a
15:17already, like, well-oiled machine that is Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase and all those guys already.
15:23But Ken Walker could be... They got him for a reason because he's, like, the offense.
15:29Like, he is the guy that's going to make this thing go, and as Mahomes gets healthier and healthier, Mahomes is just
15:37making Ken Walker a better part of this offense.
15:40I think Walker has a better chance to play on all three downs, whereas Chase Brown does lose out to some snaps to some Ajay P.
15:50Ryan. Again, I'm not trying to paint a negative picture.
15:54I've been in the highest on Chase Brown since I can remember.
15:58Like, when I did my rankings from the jump, he was RB5.
16:03So I don't want to feel like I'm telling people not to draft him because I still think you should, but when
16:11it comes to, like, pure ceiling outcomes, I think Ken Walker actually has the highest ceiling between him and Chase Brown.
16:19And to see him falling now to RB9, I think that this is a screaming buying opportunity.
16:26And, Welsh, I keep reiterating this on every show I do talking about Ken Walker.
16:31I feel like, in hindsight, we're going to look back on the season and think, dude, it was so obvious.
16:39Dude, Ken Walker was going to smash. You know what it kind of feels like?
16:44Do you remember? It's kind of like this, but remember, like, Jonathan Taylor was kind of being pushed back last year?
16:52Remember, it was, like, wheel-ish, if I'm remembering correctly.
16:56Like, it was kind of going on the, like, the 12, sometimes even the beginning of the first round, and then all
17:04of a sudden, it's just, like, smash, smash, smash.
17:07I'm kind of with you. But it's interesting that, from an expert ranking perspective, it's going in the opposite direction.
17:15I'm kind of with you. I think it's because of his foot injury that he's, it doesn't seem like, it seems like
17:23it's minor, but people have PTSD with Walker. It's the number one fear everybody has, and it kind of, it is floating.
17:32And from an overall perspective, but the positional has moved back, like, two spots from where it was because there was so much hype.
17:41So know that going into your final drafts that I think these are both two players, though, I would pinpoint that I'm
17:49clicking on, but they're both attached to injuries. I'm not, I'm just not afraid because I think the upside of both players is really, really high.
17:59But, you know, you do start to think about, like, what can be taken away from Gen T.
18:06Like, if you had to take one risk, and you said I had to take an early second round pick, I know
18:14you can't technically do this, but early second round pick on Ken Walker, a wheel pick, or I've got to take a
18:22late, late second round, early third on Gen T.
18:26I think it's just a Walker. I just want to click on, like, I want to be more invested in him.
18:34So those are two high-end adjustments when we looked at that top 36 board that is happening, and that's kind of affecting ECR.
18:42There are two, two middle running backs that are really interesting, and it's Bucky Irving and Bachel Tootin.
18:49Bucky Irving specifically has had a pretty dramatic jump over, I think it's even specifically the last 15 days we're curating some of this information.
18:58He's gone from RB23 to RB19. So that's not quite showing because, actually, we do have a little marker because I think
19:07even in the last week he's moved up as well.
19:11If you take a look at the ranks, even in the last week or so, I think he's moved up two more spots.
19:19But in that last 15 days, he is increasingly moved up regardless of the Kenny Gainwell stuff.
19:26And then on the opposite end here is, well, I mean, I guess it's still moving up, but Bachel Tootin hasn't had
19:34the exact same big jump, but he was ranked around 65 on the overall.
19:39He's now ranked 60. So it's about a half-round jump he's had over the last month.
19:45But I found this was really interesting. He's on the opposite end of his ADP.
19:51His ADP had him going in the mid-40s, and that's now pushed down to the 50s.
19:57You know, so this is one of those things where like an overall ranker are ranking him lower.
20:04He was going higher in drafts, but now we're seeing him slip in ADP while moving up in ranks.
20:11So really, you could actually look at it as like a negative two on Bachel Tootin if you look at the ADP.
20:19But just two really interesting guys kind of going around each other, totally different vibes and perspectives.
20:26Let's talk about Bucky Irving and Bachel Tootin. What do you buy and what do you think is dictating the movement for them to be going up?
20:36And do you want to do that in this final weekend?
20:40I do want to move Bucky up. I have moved him up my rankings and shout out to Fitz for being the
20:48Bucky stand among the Fantasy Pros analysts this offseason.
20:52He would not be deterred by the Sean Tucker propaganda because clearly that's what that may have been, was propaganda that Sean
21:00Tucker was going to have a significant role, but we almost get cut from the team and you're in a running back
21:08competition with a guy named Josh Williams, who I'd never heard of until I realized he was in the RB3 battle with Sean Tucker.
21:17Well, you don't get as concerned about what his role could be on Bucky.
21:23So I looked at last year just to kind of get into, actually the last two years with Bucky Irving.
21:30And basically, so his RB19 in the ECR right now, I think I have him right in this exact range.
21:38He was RB18 in points per game last year.
21:41And we know that he played a lot of last year injured.
21:46So started out really good, got hurt, came back, was not effective.
21:50Obviously it was an incomplete season because he only played, I believe it was like 10 games.
21:57So, but still, he would have paid off his ADP last year based on a pretty incomplete season.
22:03The year before that, it was a rookie year.
22:07He didn't start playing until the second half of the season.
22:11But overall, when he was in a committee to start the year, when he wasn't really playing, Rashad White was their RB1.
22:19He was RB19 in points per game. And this is in half PPR.
22:24So right now, I think Bucky is very appropriately priced at where he's going.
22:29I think you're getting him at his floor at RB19.
22:33And I know that Kenneth Gainwell is going to have a role in this offense and he's going to catch passes.
22:41So that's something that's obviously being baked into Bucky's price.
22:45Welsh, question for you. Where do you think Jalen Warren finished last year while splitting a backfield with Kenneth Gainwell?
22:52Just throw out a number in terms of points per game.
22:57What do you think he finished? I want to say it was like, it's like RB23?
23:03RB19. The exact same number that we've been kind of...
23:06Yeah, the number that we've been riffing off here.
23:10So I think that this is the right price.
23:13I think that he is in play if you need a running back in these middle rounds.
23:20Now, structurally speaking, I would rather have my top end running backs already drafted on my team.
23:26I'd rather be going wide receiver here. But I think it makes Bucky less of a bust risk.
23:33I still question the high-end ceiling outcome with him just because Kenneth Gainwell will be involved.
23:39But if the goal line opportunities and red zone opportunities are there for Bucky, then yeah, you could see him turning at
23:47least a back-end fantasy RB1 type of season. And the talent is there too.
23:52Like that's the other thing with Bucky is he's a really talented guy.
23:57Every time he's been healthy on the field, even at the beginning of last year before he got hurt, he was electric.
24:06And we know he can catch passes. We know that he can rip off big plays.
24:12And we know the Buccaneers offense is good. That's another thing too.
24:16The offensive environment is strong for Bucky Irving. So again, shout out to Fitz for being the Bucky guy all year long.
24:24I'm not, happy that it took me so long to kind of come around.
24:30Although I didn't feel like I was burying Bucky as much as his price got cheaper and cheaper.
24:37But I just want to say like, don't scratch him off your draft board altogether.
24:42You still have drafts. I think that he is in play here at this new cost at RB19.
24:49Yeah. And a couple of things to add in here.
24:53Something you can do on the Fantasy Pros rank site.
24:57If you look over on the left tab, if you're on the website, on the app, you can click through it.
25:04But there's a Fantasy Pros experts thing, which I don't get to be a part of, but it's Ericsson, Debro and Fitz.
25:13And if you look, you can see the comparison tool.
25:17You guys, I don't know if you recently made the change, but you guys are now in line.
25:23You and Fitzy. But before, like Debro, Debro's not about Bucky apparently.
25:28He has got him at RB24. That was in, yeah, but that was in line with the public or at least the
25:36expert public sentiment, if you will, you know, their agreement.
25:40But now things are moving in the opposite direction.
25:43You and Fitzy are at 19 and 18. Fitzy has at 18.
25:48So you guys have now become more the median than where he was before.
25:53But also looking at this, I can tell you, half PPR, in the ranks, Bucky has not cracked the top 10, but
26:01there are quite a few people that have him at 11, 12, 13, and 14.
26:07So if I were just eyeballing this, I would say there's roughly 18 different rankers that have him as a top 15 back.
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30:07It's you? Who's someone that works at Fantasy Pros?
30:10It's me! It's me, the person you're doing the show with.
30:15Yeah, just like your 19 thing. It's me. I've got him at 16, so I can complete agreement with you.
30:22Yeah, so I've got him at the high spot.
30:26So he has been moving up. So there's definitely a lot of, you know, expert word that is pushing for you to be drafting Bucky Irving this weekend.
30:36And then as well, Basial Tootin. What do you make of the Basial Tootin rank moving up half a round overall, but the ADP moving down?
30:46Maybe it's just more trying to collide to, sometimes ADP and ECR can really like flow in different directions.
30:53This is one of those where they're like really far off, but he has moved, you know, again, half a round over this period of time.
31:03You all, you three are all around the same general spot as Basial Tootin.
31:08So do you think there's anything specifically that's driving this kind of late, slight surge for Tootin?
31:15I don't think so because there's nothing that's really new when it comes to news for the Jacksonville Jaguars in the back,
31:23so they haven't played any of their starters really during the preseason and Liam Cohen has been pretty positive about most of
31:31his offensive players across the board ranging from Hunter, Brian Thomas Jr.
31:36to both his running backs between Tootin and Chris Rodriguez.
31:40So I think that it's pretty status quo with Basial Tootin.
31:44I think that this is just fluctuation of how drafts go and Tootin is in a position I think where if you
31:52don't need a running back, then you don't feel the need to take him.
31:57My main thing with Tootin is I think that he's going to be the RB1 in this backfield.
32:04I just don't know when. That is like the only thing that's kind of holding me back from being like 100% all in.
32:13They play the Browns in week one at home.
32:16I think that's being I think the Jaguars are going to smoke the Cleveland Browns.
32:22Their defense plays terrible on the road. They have a new defensive coordinator.
32:27There's no Miles Garrett. So I think the Jaguars are going, it's going to be a route and I think that you
32:35could see either a big game from Tootin or potentially Chris Rodriguez.
32:40But then after that, the schedule gets much tougher for the Jaguars backfield.
32:44So ultimately, I think that Tootin is going to be the one that shines out.
32:50But it could be like a Zach Moss Chase Brown scenario where it's annoying to start.
32:56And we also have LaQuint Allen potentially pitching in on third downs.
33:01I know he's been dealing with an injury, but if he's also going to be playing a significant snap share in this
33:09offensive backfield, then it's going to probably be a committee to start the season.
33:14So Tootin may not pay off right away, which is the only reason why I'm not like over the moon trying to
33:23get him everywhere because I think there might be a buy low window for Tootin a little bit later on during the season.
33:31I think part of it might be that he is maybe the beginning of the top of this next tier or the end of a tier in that.
33:42Who are the people that are behind him in ECR?
33:46Jadarian Price, Travion Henderson, Ramondre, Jalen Warren. What's the representation of all those players?
33:51Committees. And that I think Tootin is crossing a line of like, is he a non-committee or committee back?
33:58You're kind of painting the story where he may be more committee.
34:03And I think there are quite a few people that are seeing him as the last bastion of a player that might
34:11not be and he gets the full run. And you can just look at what HN did with them last season and
34:19just if you insert that into Tootin, he becomes super valuable.
34:23So I think that's an interesting one. The final three, different versions of each other.
34:29The three players between kind of like RB, like a flex RB and RB3, if you want to call it, that are
34:37moving on boards, you've got Marshawn Lloyd. That one's pretty obvious.
34:41He was 150. I'll tell you this. On Saturday, he was 152.
34:46Then moving through, he's moved six rounds. He's now around 91 overall.
34:50He continues to move. I think I told you he was like running back 27 or something on the board.
34:58He has been moving up. Another player moving up is Ja'Cory Croskey-Merritt, who was 103 at the beginning of the month, has now moved up to 88 overall.
35:09That is about a round and a half jump, whatever that is relative to the positional stuff.
35:15And the final one is a player that has moved down.
35:19And I actually, I'm not here for it, even though I do love the other back in their system, the younger, cheaper back.
35:28But RJ Harvey was going around 97, has actually moved down to 107.
35:33He's about had a full round drop. And I think part of that is Jonah Coleman excitement.
35:39The other part might just be a lack of excitement for the running game in general.
35:45So if you want to get some quick hitters here, Marshawn Lloyd is kind of the biggest one going into this weekend.
35:53People are really trying to figure out what the value of him is because this happened so quickly and this happening over the weekend.
36:03I mean, a lot of drafters did not get an opportunity to make the adjustment.
36:08So what does the new adjustment look like for you for Marshawn Lloyd?
36:13And then thoughts on Kroski-Mirit moving over a round and a half and Harvey moving down around.
36:20So I have Lloyd at RB 26, so a little bit higher than ECR.
36:25But I do think that this is the right range, although I think that Lloyd should be closer to the top of
36:33the tier just based on the fact that he's got the clear runway to becoming a starting running back on an offense that could be top 10.
36:43Remember that show we did on the Vegas implied odds drafting sleepers from the best offenses?
36:49my guy in that show was Marshawn Lloyd. And the reason I picked him was just because I needed an offense that
36:58was in the top 10 for a cheap running back and Marshawn Lloyd at the time was that exact player.
37:05So we know that his sample size in the NFL is very, very small.
37:10He has played 10 offensive snaps at the NFL level.
37:14And this is something that has been an issue with him dating back to college.
37:20Like he has never really been a bell cow basically anywhere at the NFL or college level.
37:26Now that's not because he's undersized 5'9", 220 pounds.
37:30Like this die is a size speed specimen. So you know what the upside can be and he has juice.
37:37Like that's the one thing that Josh Jacobs even if Josh Jacobs was playing and healthy like that wasn't really part of
37:46his game at this point as much. He's been slowing down a little bit.
37:51But Josh Jacobs his superpower was the guy could handle a ton of volume, right?
37:56And LaFleur was more than happy to keep featuring Josh Jacobs as the engine to this Packers rushing attack.
38:04That won't be the case here in 2026. We'll see how things shake out in terms of how many games.
38:11But as of right now he's not going to be available for week one.
38:16So we got to look at this back feel like Marshall Lloyd is going to be the guy.
38:23We'll see guys like Chris Brooks sprinkle in here and there.
38:27I think Caleb Johnson may have a role just to keep Marshall Lloyd upright because I mean it's pretty concerning when you
38:36just look at his body of work. I'm looking at it right now.
38:41So he never surpassed 150 touches in any college season.
38:44Like that's not that like 150. Well, that's not a ton.
38:49Like that's like half an NFL season. So again, I think that it's probably aggressive to project okay, Lloyd's going to see
38:57300 touches this year over a 17 game season.
39:00I think that's probably aggressive. But that being said the Packers are in a situation where they may think they can get
39:09Jacobs back at some point during the season in the second half.
39:13So they can overload Marshawn Lloyd with touches and opportunities to start the year knowing that okay, if we get Jacobs back
39:21maybe we get Caleb Johnson a little bit more ready to go.
39:26We can feature those players a little bit later on during the season but for right now Lloyd is our guy and
39:34that's what I want to take advantage of. Who would you rather Marshawn Lloyd or Jonathan Brooks?
39:41I still lean towards Brooks because I do think that the longevity point of him might be a little bit better and
39:49now that I say that I'm not even so sure that I believe it.
39:54That's a very funny thing to say about Jonathan Brooks but yeah, go ahead.
39:59Maybe that's not an accurate statement because of the Jacobs situation.
40:04So that's probably not the right answer for it.
40:07I have them ranked back to back. I think for me I still look at Brooks as maybe someone that could probably
40:15take a little bit more of the entire workload away from Chuba Hubbard and now that I say that too I'm not sure I believe that.
40:25So Welsh, I don't know. Clearly I'm throwing my hands up because I just want both guys.
40:32Yeah, I mean I think that might be the answer for a lot of people.
40:37I'm struggling to actually make the rational reason behind taking Jonathan Brooks over Marshawn Lloyd and maybe I'm just convincing myself that
40:46it should be ranked the opposite way. Well, that's kind of what I'm alluding to but also maybe there's something to getting
40:54a workhorse running back going heavy wide receiver and then trying to make an attempt at double tapping both of those guys.
41:02If you could double tap both of those Brooks and Lloyd maybe, I mean there's a little bit of risk in there but there's a ton of upside.
41:13Any last thoughts? Jacory Kroski is the last guy in the top 36.
41:18RJ Harvey got kicked out of the top 36 here.
41:21That's been the latest movement. If you had to pick one of those it's a really worrisome offensive line with Merritt.
41:29There's Jonah Coleman is kind of a force that everybody's pushing in.
41:34J.K. Dobbins is there. RJ Harvey. I think RJ Harvey might start becoming undervalued here so I'm a little bit even though
41:42I've had Jacory Kroski and Merritt as a target I'm kind of really interested in RJ Harvey in this final weekend because
41:50of the cost but any final thoughts on those two?
41:54I like RJ Harvey because of his high value touches that you should see in the Broncos backfield.
42:01Right? He may not see the majority of touches on early downs in between the 20s but those are the least valuable touches for fantasy football purposes.
42:11Every time I talk about RJ Harvey the coaching staff they talk about well this guy scored 12 touchdowns last year.
42:19This guy was great in the red zone so that to me sounds like it's going to be sticky and that he's
42:27going to see a featured role in the red zone and he's going to catch passes and the thing I keep pointing
42:36out and someone that I've actually kind of soured on as the process has gone on more is J.K.
42:43Dobbins and I know that you look at last year and you think but Erickson J.K.
42:49Dobbins was great at the beginning of last year.
42:52Yes he was because it was before he got hurt and it was when the Broncos had a really easy schedule.
43:00The Broncos played a really easy schedule to start the year then the schedule got really hard but Dobbins didn't have to
43:09face it because he got hurt so then RJ Harvey had to run into all these brick walls and looked terrible doing
43:17it and then he got ripped because he wasn't as efficient as J.K.
43:22Dobbins when I think he would have seen a dramatic fall off in J.K.
43:27Dobbins efficiency in the second half of last year anyway and the conversation would be like did J.K.
43:34Dobbins take a step back? Is the wear and tear starting to finally build up on him where now it's well just copy and paste last year's backfield?
43:44I think that Jonah Coleman might just eat up eat in more into J.K.
43:50Dobbins role and RJ Harvey's role stays stable from year to year.
43:54I literally agree 100%. I actually don't think Harvey is affected by this.
43:59I think J.K. Dobbins is holding a locker for Jonah Coleman right now and Dobbins might be just the bridge gap until
44:07they feel Coleman can take on the workload or they don't want to give him a ton of carries early on and
44:16I would not be shocked if Dobbins not even due to injury is not on this team later into the year that
44:24it's Jonah Coleman and RJ Harvey is a one-two punch so I think RJ Harvey might be a decent value and J.K.
44:32is a starting running back that is getting is really cheap but it's a worrisome offensive line but he's moving up so
44:41wide receiver changes kind of across the board when we look at the top 12 you've got Jamar Chase at one Puka
44:49Neku at two Jackson Smith and Jigba Monroe St.
44:52Brown there's really just been no change on that throughout the season CDLM is at five Justin Jefferson at six their bottom
45:01half is AJ Brown Drake, Linden Nico Collins Chris Olave George Pickens and Malik Neighbors there are three tiers in there the tier one stops at Amonra St.
45:11Brown at four tier two stops at George Pickens and then tier three starts with Malik Neighbors so that's kind of the
45:19start there so interesting there's two tiers of only 11 wide receivers if you want to make that heavy push going into
45:28wide receivers 13 through 24 we've got Devonta Smith at 13 Zay Flowers Rasheed Rice T.
45:34Higgins Ladd McConkie at 17 Jalen Warren at 18 Garrett Wilson Tedaroa McMillan and then tier four moves to Emeka Ekbuka Luther
45:42Burden Terry McLaurin and Devonta Adams so those are your top two wide receivers very relevant if you are drafting in just
45:50like a two wide receiver format finally our wide receiver threes here from 25 to 36 on the expert consensus ranks on
45:59fantasy pros we've got Jamison Williams at 25 DJ Moore Christian Watson Roman Dunze Mike Evans at 29 Parker Washington at 30
46:07and then tier five consists of Marvin Harrison Carnell Tate Brian Thomas Jr DK Metcalf Chris Godwin and Cortland Sutton 36 wide
46:15receivers that you're going to be drafting and you're going to be looking at on boards and you are going to see
46:24heavily promoted because the experts have them there but what has changed so there are two wide receivers in the pseudo wide
46:32receiver one mid wide receiver two range that have had some significant changes they are Malik Neighbors who over time looking specifically
46:40August 1st to now has moved a full round almost a little bit more he was around 39 overall he has moved
46:49up to 26 so we're looking at an overall perspective so that was like a fourth moving into the fifth round and
46:57almost touching going into the second round here and then Teddero McMillan has gone the opposite direction he has gone from he
47:05was like 31 overall just like flat across most of August and then right towards the end his rank now has moved
47:13down to 38 I think positionally I think I said 20 if I remember yeah 20 so he's moved down a couple
47:22spots he's moved around a half a round down as a very recent so Malik Neighbors and Teddero McMillan two significant wide
47:30receivers with changes in opposite directions do you buy the changes and what do you make of the change going into the
47:38final weekend so Malik Neighbors makes sense because we've had mostly positive reports about his injury and him coming back and although
47:47the coaching staff I believe today either on Tuesday or Monday talked about how still non-committal about him being ready for week
47:55one I don't think that should really change your perspective I don't think it's like the worst thing in the world either
48:03for Neighbors if he doesn't play in week one because if it just guarantees that when you do get him on the
48:12field he's closer to his elite production I think that's better that's the best case scenario for fantasy football managers now I've
48:20been more on the pessimistic side when it comes to Neighbors just looking at things beyond the injury because I think that
48:28there's a scenario where Malik Neighbors can be drafted as let's say he's not coming off an injury he's coming off an
48:36elite season from last year where okay he's got you know maybe not much experience with Jackson Dart again they only played
48:45one game together last year so that's a projection and then you have this new offense with Matt Nagy Greg Roman like
48:53a lot of the boomer coaches that are coming over that did not enthrall us with a lot of confidence from where
49:01they were playing now they're all together coaching under Harbaugh so I've heard some takes about Harbaugh potentially being this year's Pete
49:10Carroll I don't know if I can go that far but I kind of get it to an extent and if it
49:18was Lamar that was really keeping Harbaugh outright and that's why they were having success and then when Lamar went down everything
49:26crumbled which is what happened last season okay so that concerns you about the Giants infrastructure and the fact that even if
49:35he is out there and playing when will he be 100% so I understand why you got to move him up I've
49:43I don't think that this is an egregious price at wide receiver 12 but I feel like this might be his ceiling
49:51this season coming off the injury in a new offense that I'm just not super super excited about interesting the fantasy pros
49:59the we've got a section where you can check the analysts and it's Debro Erickson and Fitzy you guys even him out
50:08as your wide receiver 14 and nobody has him at what the current cost is and you are the lowest on him
50:16you've got him at 15 there's a 14 and then there's a 13 so you guys ended up having a wide receiver
50:2414 so you're not really buying obviously like positive reports have made this movement there but maybe still not a player that
50:33you're specifically clicking but people in ECR are moving him up but what do you make about the Tedaro McMillan drop you
50:41can even see ECR will give you like little indicators as of recent changes of like over last week if someone has
50:49dramatically moved and as rankers are either a newly submitting or updating their ranks for some reason he's one of the few
50:58players that you're going to see a down arrow on that he has dropped a little bit what do you make of
51:06it whether it be maybe people loving other receivers obviously like Jalen Waddell and Emeka Egbuka have been players that people are
51:14tabbing a little bit more or do you think there's something more nefarious going on I think he's being disrespected to be
51:22totally honest he won offensive rookie of the year last year he was wide receiver 15 overall last year and now he's
51:31entering his second season and where is his ECR he's wide receiver 20 so he's going to be worse than he was
51:39last year I understand that Jalen Coker is going to be a bigger part of this offense that is if he can
51:47stay healthy because he's been injured throughout two years of his career and who else is commanding targets in this room at
51:56all besides Jalen Coker who's the third receiver on this team Xavier Leggett I keep saying this on every show he puts
52:04the X in sacrificial X Xavier Leggett the guy cannot command targets and when he does he drops the ball constantly there's
52:12no tight end of consequence in this offense they use four different guys and I mean I was talking about maybe this
52:21would have been my better case for a pro argument for Jonathan Brooks over Marshawn Lloyd wouldn't shock me if Jonathan Brooks
52:29is third on the team in catches for the Carolina Panthers in 2026 that would even higher I did move him down
52:37a little bit as Debra was in my ear about how impactful Jalen Coker was in this offense but when we got
52:45the preseason usage for T-Mac the guy was still operating out of the slot so getting even more layup targets for him
52:54where it's not just Jalen Coker operating in the slot 100% of the time T-Mac is moving in there gets more favorable
53:02matchups because he's going to be the guy that moves this offense potentially we know Chuba Hubbard's not going to generate explosive
53:10plays Jonathan Brooks we are playing a much tougher schedule maybe that means more negative game scripts and they have to throw
53:19the ball a little bit more and honestly if I'm the Carolina Panthers what's the point of just having Bryce Young hand
53:27the ball off for 17 games straight when he's in a contract year they gotta figure out if he's their franchise quarterback
53:35I kind of know how I feel about that he's probably not their franchise quarterback next year and the Bryce Young experiment
53:44will end in Carolina but I think it's worth at least seeing what he has with some of these more these better
53:52weapons that he hasn't had in the past so I think T-Mac is a negative stuff around him I suppose while you
54:00and Fitz are holding up the rank he comes in at 19 on ours but that is where ECR is moving McMillan
54:09a little bit down neighbors a little bit up a middle tier of wide receivers three really interesting differences two guys that
54:17played with each other that don't now we have got two increases and one pretty dramatic decrease Mike Evans on an overall
54:25has gone from 51 down to around 62 about a round full drop and I think positionally he may have moved from
54:3325 down to 29 right now so he is moving in the opposite direction where a lot of us have been you
54:42know touting the touchdown upside but people are looking at this current injury I mean the 49ers are just not going to
54:50play their the narrative around him has been positive for a long time he has moved from where he was around in
54:58the beginning of August 83 overall to around 68 and in instances he's probably going to coming into this weekend Mike Evans
55:07is definitely the injuries and I would be lying if I didn't think also that maybe I was about to or to
55:15front out my skis when it comes to practice all the time with this quad injury hamstring injury etc but I think
55:23it's just one of those where he may not play all the games but he doesn't have to play all the games
55:32we moved a lot just a monster work out as a really strong pick so I think Chris Godwin is moving up
55:40the rankings the right way I am lockstep with the ECR also moving him up the ranks and this was from the
55:48coach speak index Greg brain us had something really interesting to say about Chris Godwin coming from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers GM
55:56Jason Light basically they had asked him the GM on who the Bucs go to receiver is now with Mike Evans gone
56:05he said we have a lot of options at that now I'd be remiss if I didn't mention Chris Godwin for all
56:13that he's done for this organization talk about being consistent steady Mr.
56:18Clutch player that's him the GM called Chris Godwin him he is him Chris Godwin given the injuries to McMillan who can
56:26never stay healthy I am not relying on him whatsoever to be a staple point in his passing attack and then I
56:34don't know man I don't really know so yeah I think Chris Godwin is a value here and when you just look
56:42at some of the optics for week one the Buccaneers again we're doing these week one rankings would not surprise me off
56:51Chris Godwin out targets out produces egg buca especially if you see Godwin in the slot the Bengals have really strong perimeter
56:59wide receivers DJ Turner is one of their best guys you'll probably see him matched up more with guys like Ted Hurst
57:07and egg buca and that means Chris Godwin could just get peppered underneath with 10 to 12 targets and every week to
57:16take away will be well we're redrafted in the wrong bucks wide receiver one all along and it was Chris Godwin so
57:24yeah it's interesting that I actually do agree like week one could be one of those spots where like you're going to
57:32have a of players where you were drafting and then all of a sudden it's the other guy that has these huge
57:41weeks and Godwin is one of those that I and lastly Parker Washington is just ultimately fascinating he has three rankers that
57:49have him inside as a top 20 wide receiver roughly let's call it like 25 rankers that have him as a 25
57:57or higher you know and a couple prominent people are in there Justin Boone Hayden Winks is in there I mean there's
58:05some people do you think so ultimately with how the ranks have in too much going into this weekend or do you
58:14think we are finally sitting around the proper values a lot of people it's taking kind of a slow in this year
58:22and he's like yes he did I said don't worry I won't bombard you with questions and I said dude you're going
58:30to help me with golf I'm going to help you yes I am that's funny all right the final ones here these
58:39are guys that did not show up in the top 36 but they were pretty dramatic jumps and changes and I just
58:47wanted to highlight these two players I think Casey Concepcion has been a really popular one his rank about a month ago
58:55was around 137 he's moved up in the 127 overall range positionally it's moving around like a top 50 wide receiver he's
59:04had about a full round jump but a really big and this is like end over three rounds of value to ECR
59:12and experts in rank where he was outside the top 200 he's moved almost inside the top 175 and might be a
59:20really sneaky sharp play to pick at the very end of maybe he's ahead of Makai Lemon on the depth chart as
59:28of right now so he could offer some more early season value he's familiar with Sean Mannion coming over from the Green
59:37Bay Packers so I definitely one of my favorite wide receivers to draft late as a bench guy because he's a player
59:45that I think could become a big staple of your team whether it's Sean Watson whether it's Sanders Sigmund Blum dropped an
59:53amazing comparison to Concepcion that I could not get out of my mind after he dropped it talking about Sean Watson and
60:02some of the receivers that he has gravitated towards during his college days and during his time spent at Houston with the
60:10Texans so in Clemson Hunter Renfro was a guy that he targeted a lot as an underneath kind of slot option short
60:18to intermediate around the line of scrimmage Welsh do you remember the third receiver on the Houston Texans that had his moments
60:27with Deshaun Watson so behind DeAndre Hopkins behind Will Fuller do you remember Will Fuller that was not Will Fuller was the
60:35big splash play guy who again yeah there's another player I couldn't when they named when Sigmund Bloom name dropped this guy
60:43I couldn't I was like oh my god I totally remember that guy but it wasn't well no it wasn't Christian I
60:51don't Kiki Kuti Oh yeah that's a name drop right but he was good great punt returner kick off returner great with
61:00the ball in his hands yak monster so I think that even if the quarterback play is bad in Cleveland which should
61:08be the expectation they should at least have negative game scripts and Concepcion has shown that hey just get me the for
61:16every pick you can get real time alerts and predictions for which players are going to make it back to you all
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61:33cheat code for fantasy draft this year fantasy pros assistant that's fantasy pros assistant Erickson we're going to start with quarterback here
61:41looking at the top 12 board this is an interesting position because you would actually said it to me off air the
61:50one position you're going to see the least amount of change in ECR over time is going to be the quarterback position
61:58once it locks in which you know whether that's June or out the top 12 is Josh Allen at one Lamar Jackson
62:06at two Drake May at three no real big crazy changes there that's tier one tier two from four to 10 is
62:15Joe Burrow Jaden Daniels Jalen Hurts Caleb Williams Justin Herbert Trevor Lawrence Dak Prescott and tier three has Brock Purdy and Bo
62:23Nix we don't have a whole lot of numbers to attach to this I do have one quarterback that has moved down
62:31half around but I I am going to pull up here in a second what the variance is between it this isn't
62:39backed by like yep experts have made big major changes I am surprised we have not seen a major change out of
62:48Jaden Daniels and you are going to relay something to people that I agree with that might be surprising so let's talk
62:56about Jaden Daniels going into this final weekend I'm especially if you have to pay a little bit more to get him
63:04it's funny I was helping my wife draft her fantasy football team for her work league last night and we go through
63:13the first couple rounds round four she looks at me can I draft a quarterback now whoa whoa hit the brakes the
63:21amount of risk you take on with some of these quarterbacks especially if you're going to have to pay a little bit
63:29more to get them and when you look at the ECR ranks you have the bounce backs before after down seasons and
63:38he's shown that with a new offensive coordinator he can win MVP whereas Jane Daniels we have one really good year and
63:46then one bad year where he was banged up Terry McCormick injured I Tunsell injury and I understand that Tunsell wasn't even
63:54there in 2024 but I think that's just a testament to the Superman performance that Jane Daniels did as a rookie and
64:02how he was able to rise above the situation that was the Washington Commanders and I'm just a bit skeptical that he
64:11can do that again in 2026 when you're removing Laramie Tunsell one of the best left tackles in his dropbacks and it
64:19did not look good or encouraging about oh yeah this offensive line is going to be great and then to add insult
64:27to injury they're playing at the Eagles in week one one of Comet but and I like the additions again I don't
64:36want to knock Stefan Diggs his addition I think that was really key for the commanders to add him but the Tunsell
64:44injury and then the fact that their starting center has missed basically most of the summer with a calf injury the athletic
64:52described the Washington commanders offensive line as tissue thin interior on the offensive line that absolutely terrifies me again so the schedule
65:01overall Scott Brown toilet paper like you can't have single play offensive line unfortunately you got to triple that that is a
65:09recipe for up a bunch of losses to start the year you start to hear the rumors of Dan Quinn on the
65:17hot seat and when coaches get fired it's just not a good recipe for success for this team so I'm concerned my
65:25big takeaway with just thinking about Jay Daniels is who had a really good rookie season and hasn't done it since CJ
65:34Stroud and the offensive line was aside to be like the rushing upside is so huge I think there's an argument to
65:42be made and I would hear it out for people because you're going to I mean I'm just a little spoiler there's
65:50a need to be successful passing on the run a little bit more and to be fair they added like a guy
65:59like Rashad White you've got Chica Conquo they've got some good playmakers to make this okay but in the same token I'm
66:07just worried the efficiency is going to go down and that tissue paper offensive line is going to create a lot of
66:15bad situations where we might make mistakes and we might have boomer bus weeks I'm with you on this one and this
66:24is a perfect example to remind people that ECR changes on a dime so you could be watching this and see something
66:32different yourself because this is as people make adjustments or more ranks are submitted within 24 hours of doing this like I
66:40for behind the scenes for people I screenshot things we can look at them on our show sheet he was five last
66:48night he moved to six I didn't check the update this morning so that has moved down one spot and if you
66:57look at variance with Jaden Daniels I'm telling you there are five or six I'm kind of a little bit of a
67:05fade like you are and I think maybe not enough is being built into the concern for him with that offensive line
67:13when people are looking at last month he's moved down about a half of a round almost a full round is Jackson
67:22Dart that's been another one of those where it's surprising because Malik neighbors has healthier he's going to be out there I
67:30I think people are concerned about the experts are concerned about the sustainability of the rushing from last year and the Giants
67:38I that it's just part of his game and he's a young player and he's going to run and having Malik neighbors
67:47even if it's not at 100% 80% of Malik neighbors is still better than no Malik neighbors at all and that's a
67:55boost for Jackson Dart so we just outlined the upside case with Jaden Daniels I Jackson Dart started week one he's facing
68:03the Dallas Cowboys like that matchup a lot more than the Philadelphia Eagles especially with the Giants playing at home so Dart
68:11had some really think the risk is more than being captured because it's overthinking it a little bit I know I have
68:20him checking right now where I have him inside my top 12 because I'm embracing the rushing at this point I have
68:28him I'm taking him above consensus you ready for this differential if you want to look and click on the fantasy pros
68:36expert differences he ends up being your guys quarterback I'm not even sure how here but he's quarterback 12 D bro's got
68:45him at 8 you have him at 10 do you know where Fitzy has him buried 19 19 so yeah Fitzy is
68:53down on him so that is actually probably the biggest variance there was a time and we were going to look at
69:01this episode of having the biggest variance between the three of you the fantasy pros analysts and taking a look at those
69:10differences and if that was the two guys that would stand out he's moved up to 12 so those are what the
69:18changes are there's less quarterback differences or ECR changes in this period of time but perception you know is kind of showing
69:26up a little bit and that top 12 again is Josh Allen Lamar Jackson Drake May Joe Burrow at four Jaden Daniels
69:34well technically actually Jalen Hertz is now five my old sheet Jaden Daniels is six Caleb Williams Justin I don't pretend to
69:43be the biggest Bo lever in the world but the fact that he was QB7 back to back seasons and they added
69:51Jalen Waddell and he's basically a fringe fan it's QB1 he is my firewall of oh I waited so long at quarterback
69:59I'll just take Bo Nix like I think that his security his safety is really really high and I think that okay
70:08I mean I think top five quarterback is very much this is my bad for not I literally I actually not even
70:16screenshot of these again this morning a change that has happened that I didn't notice as well Bo Nix has actually jumped
70:24Brock Purdy in 11 so there there's another in ECR you want changes Bo Nix has moved up another positional spot so
70:33Dart down Jaden Daniels down Bo Nix up those are some quarterbacks to pay attention to for this coming weekend moving over
70:41as you mentioned now going to tight ends our big board hopefully this hasn't had a bunch of Kittle and tier 3
70:49has Kelsey Kinkade and Goddard so that's been pretty chalk now that's making me want to look at the live board there
70:58is another change here I'm going to say this one Dallas Goddard has moved out of the top 12 and the new
71:06change is Isaiah likely but likely moving up a little bit into the top 12 so that is something we're seeing on
71:14the top 12 well actually just real quick on Isaiah likely anything you want to speak on likely jumping Goddard in the
71:22ranks is that do anything for you I mean Goddard it's numbers without AJ Brown is pretty sexy but likely clearly looks
71:31like he's going to be the number two pass catching option in the higher ceiling potential just because there's an opportunity for
71:39him if neighbors is not 100% for likely to be the number one target in this offense for maybe the first month
71:47of the season not to say that Dallas guard doesn't also have pristine opportunity with no AJ Brown coming back from his
71:56injury and it just being Devontae Smith as the established number one also very favorable schedule to start the year again this
72:04Eagles passing game is probably going to start off on a high note considering they play the Washington Commanders in week one
72:12so that's a good spot for Jalen Hurts and this offense to at least start on a high note so I legendary
72:21franchise player thing going on with Mark Andrews in Baltimore where they're continuing to play him and start him even though it's
72:29very visible that you can see that the product the asset the production is starting to decline with the player but they
72:37don't care because he's Mark Andrews he's a Ravens long timer he's a legendary player for our franchise he's a franchise pride
72:45of my high school so they were hesitant to really kind of not bench him but to put him behind likely even
72:54though it was very clear that likely had way more juice and way more upside and likely said screw this I'm going
73:02with Harbaugh to the Giants get a new contract for a path for opportunities and likely would hardly be the first tight
73:10end to finally hit on their second team right this is a very common thing that we see a trend where first
73:19team a tight end it's kind of buried doesn't really do that much maybe flashes here and there I think the most
73:27popular guy that comes to mind a path and I think that getting him as a late round tight end option I
73:35think he's got a little bit more boom or bust to him because Giants offense maybe we as a tight end one
73:44nobody lower than 12 and he comes in as the 11th but you guys are not in the same boat as Goddard
73:52bigger variance Debro has him at 8 Pits he has him at 14 you break the middle so there's a much bigger
74:00gap of variance between Goddard likely is trending up just as a you know a point if you guys don't already know
74:08up ADP is probably moving him up a little bit and he just jumped Goddard the two tight ends though that I
74:17wanted to focus on they're actually later tight ends and I caught up to where he is so I don't know in
74:25every league 19 tight ends are going to be taken but you know with the injuries they've had I know they brought
74:33in booty and stuff but like you know Dalton Schultz looks like he can get a decent target share and one of
74:42the buzzier guys Terrence Ferguson was ranked lower than Schultz is now ranked higher than him and has had it over a
74:50three round jump and is very very buzzy so two tight ends you would it would be Terrence Ferguson for me and
74:58I think that this is the perfect epitome of what Jeff Ratcliffe was talking about in one of his draft day tips
75:07to remember where when you're looking at your bench players what you're drafting for is not players to be usable but for
75:15players to become indispensable and I think that this is perfectly captured by these two players here where Schultz probably being undervalued
75:23probably a definite lock to beat tight end 25 easily probably going to beat tight end 19 he caught 77 passes last
75:31year so again a player that's going he can't turn Ferguson besides Sean McVeigh calling him a stud at every single opportunity
75:40is he's playing all over the formation he's playing the X he's playing the Y he's playing the F he's playing A
75:48B C D E F G he's doing everything you want in the alphabet for the Rams offense and how fragile is
75:56the pieces in his offense Devonta Adams 34 years old now Puka Nakua we know the way he plays he has some
76:05off field stuff not expecting suspension but could he miss time potentially and what does that mean a number one featured role
76:13in a Rams led offense for Terrence Ferguson so I think he's being undervalued because he plays tight end but if he
76:21was listed as Rams wide receiver I mean the fact that they had to trade back for a sky high ceiling and
76:30he's someone that I would much rather have on my bench as a stash than Dalton Schultz who I likely and kind
76:38of hidden in there also was a little bit of a lap drop as well positionally I think there was a lot
76:46of updates in the last 24 hours on ECR so knowing that lap had a little bit of a drop in overall
76:54rank value which I would take lap over fan and that's personally me likely moving up and guys like Terrence Ferguson are
77:03flying up boards and of all the tight ends in the top 25 ranked tight ends on our ranks page the only
77:11one to get the little green arrow which means they're making significant movement over the last seven days is Ferguson he's the
77:19one that has moved up three positional spots just in the running back and wide receiver but a little PSA for you
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