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0:03Guaranteed Human. Guaranteed Human. Week seven. Can't believe we're already at week seven.
0:06New starting quarterbacks running back coming off of the commissioner's exempt list.
0:10Andrew, again, not short in terms of storylines for another wild week of football.
0:14Yeah, man, it's it's another big week. I mean, we're seeing new starting quarterbacks coming in, new running backs to like everything.
0:21Try not to look at everything from a fantasy lands when we get into this podcast here.
0:26But I mean, it's for some of us that are at a crossroads right now where your team's either good or you're bad.
0:32Like this week feels very pivotal. Yeah. Pivotal week seven.
0:35Again, I just can't believe we're already hitting the midpoint of October.
0:39It's going to be Halloween before you know it.
0:42And Thanksgiving, Christmas and then the NFL playoffs are going to be here.
0:45So let's enjoy it while we can. So let's not bury the lead anymore.
0:50The biggest news of today recording this on what is it?
0:53Wednesday, J.J. McCarthy was announced as the starting quarterback for the New York Giants.
0:57Reading the tea leaves, it very it seemed very, very likely that this was going to happen sooner rather than later.
1:03It was just a matter of when would the Jameis Winston implosion game happen?
1:07Well, we got against the New Orleans Saints. J.J.
1:10McCarthy comes in, almost fuels the comeback when it looked like the Giants were totally left for dead in a really weird game.
1:17Giants had the lead. Saints came back. They dominated from basically the second quarter till the end of the start of the fourth quarter.
1:24And then J.J. McCarthy just drops back in total YOLO mode and total like James Winston fashion, just airing the ball all
1:30over the field, almost completes the comeback. I almost feel like if he had actually completed the comeback, he would have been
1:37announced the starter immediately after that game where it's like, no, man, like we won the game.
1:42We're going to keep rolling with McCarthy, but I think the Giants are making the right decision here.
1:47I think that we know what the ceiling would be with James Winston.
1:51And now you get to evaluate a young quarterback.
1:54Again, not ideal to draw the the old the old Houston Texans defense in your first official start.
1:59But at least McCarthy will be part of the game plan.
2:02So what what are you looking forward to seeing with this matchup?
2:06How do you think McCarthy will do? And again, like rest of the season, like JJ McCarthy be better than the Vikings version of J.J.
2:13McCarthy, which was really up and down. And I mean, Justin Jefferson managers like all to all are too familiar with what this struggle was last season.
2:21Yeah, man, I'm excited because I do think there's a lot of still just untapped skill with J.J.
2:26McCarthy that's there. I mean, some of the things he was doing this past week is stuff that he was doing on his Vikings film.
2:34The problem was, is that he was also throwing a ton of interceptions at the very worst times, too.
2:39And it was like in primetime games, fourth quarter, doing too much, trying to be the hero.
2:44And like in this instance, that worked. Go be the hero.
2:47You had nothing to lose. You're already down by what?
2:50Three scores. If you lose this game, you were expected to.
2:54And so I think that there's just times where these quarterbacks get to play with some unabashed confidence where the decisions that
3:00they would normally make that would get them in trouble.
3:03People turn them into heroes and they just don't have that little voice in their head.
3:08That's telling him like, hey, don't make that throw this time.
3:11He just didn't care. And I think that he kind of needs to keep doing that.
3:16I mean, like I do think that's something that allows J.J.
3:19McCarthy to to, I mean, still be on the same level as some other starting quarterbacks because he's got the arm talent.
3:25He's got the natural athletic ability. Now it's just like get all the mentals right, man.
3:30Like that's that's the thing is think is just play play the game in a mature fashion.
3:35And the Texans are a tough matchup, dude. Like they they really the only quarterbacks, because I was talking about this with
3:42someone else earlier today, the only quarterbacks that have played well against the Texans have been really good quarterbacks.
3:47And then when they have played quarterbacks that they are supposed to dominate, they do.
3:52So I think this is going to be a very quick and very early litmus test where we're either going to know by halftime J.J.
3:59McCarthy ain't it and the Giants might be flipping back.
4:02Or if he's keeping him competitive, all of a sudden we're saying, dang, this is a this is a new NFL starter.
4:09Yeah, very interested to see what he does, especially when it comes to the fantasy angle of it.
4:14If you have Isaiah Likely, Malik neighbors, you're kind of waiting with bated breath to see, OK, like what is this going to look like?
4:21And you don't want to be too aggressive in moving those guys down because of what could potentially be a disaster.
4:27Right. Like this could be really, really tough to your point.
4:31Again, if McCarthy does not play up to the snuff of some of these better quarterbacks in this matchup, you're just praying
4:37for, OK, hope that they're getting smoked in the second half.
4:40And he's just he's just a whale on the ball like he did against the New Orleans Saints.
4:46And that's how you get your fantasy production. Again, we'll take it.
4:49But yeah, I mean, the Texans are really starting to come into form as one of these teams where you look at
4:56their two and four record couldn't be farther from the truth of what this team actually is in terms of how their offense is playing.
5:03Jay Stroud playing at the best level he's probably played since his rookie year.
5:07The offensive line is still kind of a work in progress, but getting Braden Smith back potentially, I think, give them another boost.
5:14And then the defense with D'Amico Ryan taking over as the play caller.
5:18That's going to make life tough for J.J. McCarthy for sure.
5:21But again, playing loose, I think, is a really key point that you made where, dude, I got nothing to lose, man.
5:28I already got traded from the first team that drafted me that didn't want me.
5:32You at least have the buy in to some extent with Harbaugh.
5:35Again, getting the co-sign, I assume, from his brother Jim about J.J.
5:39McCarthy, who Jim obviously coached at Michigan and, you know, had nothing but stellar things to say about McCarthy.
5:45Again, we saw it last week with the Texans, right?
5:48Getting the buy in from the organization with Marvin Harrison Jr.
5:51with the quarterback. That means a lot. So interested to see what McCarthy can do here.
5:56Before we get to our next storyline, I want to take a look at the chat, see if we have any questions.
6:02People are just saying like, yep, still playing neighbors.
6:05I would agree. Again, neighbors has been way too good, look too healthy this season to consider taking out of your lineup.
6:11I think that he has three games over 100 receiving yards.
6:14So I think that, yeah, you got to just keep seeing it until you see otherwise.
6:19I mean, again, the thing with Jefferson too last year with McCarthy, it really was just Jefferson.
6:24Like there were some games where guys like Addison popped off with J.J.
6:28McCarthy. J.J. McCarthy also had this really weird chemistry with Jalen Naylor where they would actually like connect on a few couple of big plays.
6:35So like that's what you're hoping that maybe it was just a Jefferson specific thing and maybe he can see us the
6:42eye to eye with guys like Isaiah Likely and Malik neighbors.
6:45Well, and the other thing too, man, is like they've actually talked about this that now with J.J.
6:50McCarthy under center, they can go back to some of the stuff they were doing with Jackson Dartworth.
6:56They're like, we can run some more of this RPO stuff before we're quarterbacks actually a rushing threat.
7:01It's not just Jameis kind of goofing around back then.
7:04Yeah, he's going to have to be using his legs because Will Anderson Jr.
7:08is going to be pinning his ears to sack J.J.
7:11McCarthy constantly in this particular matchup. But we shall see.
7:14Let's go to our next storyline here. Sleeper names that could be moved at the trade deadline.
7:19So we got a report Alfredo from ESPN, Dan Graziano, Mike Garofalo talking about potential trade players kind of across the board at several different positions.
7:27Some of the names that they listed off here, Wyatt Teller, offensive lineman, Vita Vea, edge rusher, Shamar Stewart, quarterback, Rick Woolen, quarterback, Alante Taylor, safety, Jesse Bates.
7:35Does any of those names stand out to you as, oh, I could see a contender going after this particular player?
7:41Or yes, I definitely could see why this guy is going to be dealt on a team again.
7:46Most of these are players that are playing for teams that we don't necessarily view as contending teams or maybe just players
7:53that it seems like it hasn't really worked out.
7:56And you're going to see teams move away from them, try to compensate with some type of draft picks.
8:01I mean, the two big names to me that stood out were Vita Vea and Rick Woolen because they're such stalwarts in their specific defenses.
8:09And I think it all depends on honestly, I think a lot of these teams are going to wait till the very
8:15last minute to see if they are actually still in contention for this.
8:19Because I think the NFC East is still very much open.
8:22I know the Giants are at the top of it right now, but.
8:26I mean, come on, it's still pretty even across the board if we're going to be realistic here between the Eagles, Cowboys, Giants, Commanders.
8:33Like it's still very much open because I was even seeing some of the rumors that the Eagles might talk about trading away Saquon Barkley.
8:40And like, I don't know, man, does anything in the history of Howie Roseman like tell you that he's just one to
8:47give up on a season after seven weeks? It almost seems like never.
8:51No. And it seems like whatever he does ends up looking really, really good in hindsight as well.
8:56Even the Cam Juergens deal, right? This guy hasn't even played yet for the Ravens because he has a concussion and the
9:02Eagles got a second round draft pick for him when it's like, yeah, we don't know when this guy was ever going to play for us.
9:10So we just traded him away for a second round pick.
9:13Yeah. And like the other thing, too, is I guess now the Bucs are worried.
9:18OK, we've lost a bunch of games here to start, and I guess we might need to get rid of Vita Vea,
9:24who I know he was having contract issues as well.
9:27Mm hmm. If Baker comes back this week and all of a sudden they win a couple of games and we're saying,
9:34OK, well, we're back into contention again because this is also another division that's not totally set in stone yet either.
9:40So like those are the two names that to me just it's weird to think of Vita Vea not in a Bucs uniform.
9:47Yeah, definitely one of these Buccaneers Stallworth players. But what do we see them make this offseason?
9:52They lost Lamontae David. They lost Mike Evans, two guys that were you can't see them and picture them without wearing the Buccaneers uniform.
9:59And they were both like, I'm out of here.
10:01Like, I am gone. And Mike Evans, again, again, injuries aside, love and life on his six and oh, 49er squad where
10:08I mean, the dude is just gutting out every single rep and rep that he's running.
10:13But hopefully Mike Evans can get healthy, get the 49ers back.
10:16And again, I mean, 49ers just one of the team.
10:19It seems like they're put together with duct tape, but they're making it work, dude.
10:23And they continue to win games. Kyle Shanahan, Brock Purdy, the pairing that we didn't know that we needed.
10:29But now we're so happy that we have between these two guys just operating at such a high level.
10:34I will say one last thing when it comes to these trades.
10:38I did think it was kind of interesting. And going back to the Giants, the Giants are just a fun team to
10:44talk about because they just have a lot of moving parts.
10:48Because, you know, we didn't even talk about like Cam Scadaboo thing from last week where he just.
10:53My favorite thing was someone was like, man, the Giants could maybe even look at adding a running back like Saquon Barkley at the trade deadline.
11:01Yeah, like again, that kind of came to mind.
11:03And the thing that made me think about it was, I mean, number one, how hilarious it would be if they somehow
11:10were able to get him back on the Giants from the Eagles.
11:13And the Eagles got the actual draft compensation for an aging running back on a contract that you probably don't want in your books.
11:20In the future. But that being said, the Giants do a lot of weird things.
11:25John Harbaugh, when he was talking about this backfield, and we've obviously seen the repercussions of some of the comments where Najee
11:31Harris is like, yeah, man, like I'm not a huge fan of the way this is being operated.
11:37Well, clearly they're not a huge fan of you because they needed to see you play in a bigger role to figure out, wow.
11:44That interview is wild. You got nothing left in the tank and we're going to cut you anyway.
11:49So I don't understand why the coaches couldn't. You can't see that in practice, that the guy has no juice.
11:55You have to watch him play in the actual game and see him fail to be like, you know what?
12:01Najee Harris, man, you're not it. You ain't it, dude.
12:04And I never know what some of these coaches are doing either.
12:07Are you trying to send a message? Because I really feel like you could just sit down and talk to the guy.
12:14Like, you know, like coaches will do anything but have therapy, you know, like they'll go and just like sign players off
12:20the street that have been retired and be like, yeah, we're going to start you next game.
12:25And then like they just do one thing where they question the thought process to like get that guy out of here.
12:32And it was actually a relatively innocent comment to where the reporters were asking him, like, so what do you think about the four man rotation?
12:39Is that something that you expect going forward? Did you expect to get more touches?
12:44And he's just like, you got to ask the coaches.
12:47I have no answers for you on it. And they just kept asking.
12:51He kept saying the same thing. And within hours, he was gone.
12:54Yeah. John Harbaugh specifically mentioned that he would love a scenario or situation where he has a Derrick Henry.
13:00He has a Saquon Barkley. And I was just I thought it was interesting that he listed those specific two names because Derrick Henry obviously coached for.
13:08So that makes a lot of sense. Derrick Henry was their workhorse.
13:11But Saquon Barkley like. That again, I don't remember a scenario where Harbaugh had this close relationship with Saquon Barkley versus just
13:18the fact that he's the new Giants head coach.
13:20So I got to think they talk about him all the time in that in that like building like Saquon Barkley is
13:27brought up all the time in that building. So there's got to be pictures of him everywhere, too.
13:32It's like one of these things that he walks out.
13:35He's like, man, if maybe we had a Saquon Barkley, that'd be sick, you know?
13:40Oh, John Harbaugh. Yeah. Well, we shall see how the again, the Giants Texans game is going to be must view TV this weekend.
13:47Maybe not because the game is good, but just to see how this Giants offense operates.
13:51What's the back? They're going to look like what's McCarthy?
13:54They're going to look like how are the receivers going to do and step up.
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16:55Jerry Jones looking for an epic prize with the Dallas Cowboys.
16:58Quote, I can fix it. The Cowboys always seem to be looking to be buyers at the trade deadline, regardless of whatever
17:04their record is, regardless of the narrative around them.
17:07The last two times we've seen the Dallas Cowboys, they've been underwhelming, to say the least, in primetime appearances against the two
17:14Bay teams, the Green Bay Packers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, back-to-back Ls for Big D.
17:18Is this just more Jerry Jones just kind of like talking?
17:21Are the Cowboys actually going to make a move for, again, any of those names that we just mentioned?
17:27Is Rick Wollin, I mean, on the Eagles, probably not, but Bita Vea, are they going to trade for another defensive tackle?
17:33I was like, how many can you get at that point too, right?
17:37They'd have what, Kenny Clark, Quinnen Williams? Like, how much money are you going to tie into your D-line?
17:43Like, it's interesting because I was listening to the broadcast talking about how the Cowboys have gone through so many defensive coordinators
17:49that basically the defense just hasn't been good for years.
17:52And then Collinsworth is like, well, maybe it's not the coaches.
17:55Maybe it's the players. And it's just like, well, you've got so many of them.
18:00And you keep drafting new ones and signing other players who have been stars everywhere.
18:04Maybe it's just an organizational thing too at that point as well.
18:08Like, how is it being run from top to bottom?
18:11I, listen, man, I don't think there's any one singular player that's going to fix the Dallas Cowboys defense right now.
18:17What they actually do need to fix, because what cures everything is actually just scoring points.
18:21Their offense is not doing what they did last year.
18:24They have done like an Uno reverse card on all the things that worked for them in offense last year.
18:30They're running less, they're using motion less, they're using under center snaps less, play action less, they're doing everything less.
18:36It's almost as if the team got so lazy that they're like, well, we've got all these stars.
18:41We don't have to be creative anymore. Let's just have our guys beat your guys.
18:46And it's not working for them. And Dak Prescott looks a lot less efficient this year because things are not being made as easy for him.
18:54So, like, I go back to the Jerry Jones, I can fix it thing.
18:58Dog, look what's in front of you. There's got to be someone, and this is like, this also took the hot button
19:04word or thing to say here, the trigger phrase is analytics.
19:07There's got to be some, like, analytics kid somewhere.
19:10I say kid, he's probably, you know, 30, that works for the Dallas Cowboys front office that can go to Jerry Jones
19:17and be like, hey, our offense was really good at these things last year.
19:21And this is why we're not scoring as many points in winning games.
19:25Like, there's no one in the whole building doing this.
19:27It's just Jerry being like, ah, let's get ourselves another D tackle.
19:31Let him do it. It's not, it's not, doesn't help, man.
19:34It really doesn't because that's the thing with Dallas, right?
19:37It's never more a, no one ever looks at the roster and be like, dude, they just have no talent here.
19:43They just can't make it work. Like, on paper, they might be a top five team in the league.
19:49That's why it's like the Grand Theft Auto meme where it's like, dude, I look at the Cowboys entering the offseason.
19:55I'm like, dude, this roster's so good. Like, how can this not be a Super Bowl contender?
20:00And then they just do the same thing where it's like, they underwhelm, they lose games that they're supposed to win when they're heavy favorites at home.
20:08I mean, they lost the Buccaneers starting a undrafted rookie free agent in his first road start and you lose that game
20:15as eight and a half point favorites. Right. So for me, even watching that Packers game thinking like, okay, there hold the
20:21Packers to around like whatever was like 20 or 24 points.
20:24And you're thinking like, that's a game they should win.
20:27Like, oh, they held the Packers in like in the 20s.
20:31Okay. Dallas can win this type of game. And then obviously that ended up not being the case because their offense couldn't
20:37even get out of their own way. So defensive issues, offensive issues.
20:41Yeah. Jerry Jones can make whatever moves he, you know, is talking about here.
20:45But I agree with you where I don't think it's really like the personnel that's going to again, Joey Porter Jr.
20:51Right. Like you're like, you've already bringing all these guys in.
20:54It's like, what more can you do besides, hey, we got to like look ourselves in the mirror and be like, schematically
21:01speaking, find our analytics kid and be like, what do we need to do to fix things here?
21:06Do we just blitz more? Like, like, like that doesn't you see a lot of teams do and give credit to, for
21:12example, like the Giants where you lose Brian Burns when your main pass rushers.
21:17So you say, okay, let's just start down on the blitz a lot more.
21:21Yes. That leaves us a little bit more vulnerable to give up big plays, but we got to generate pass rush in
21:27some way, safe or form to get pressure on opposing quarterbacks.
21:30So I think that it's good when teams just on the fly, when they have injuries, but yeah, Jerry Jones, I don't
21:37know if you can really fix it here. Yeah.
21:40Do not think so. So let's get to our next topic here.
21:43Breaking news when it comes to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
21:46Here's recording on Wednesday. Baker Mayfield practiced in full per the reports that we got from Buccaneers practice.
21:51He's wearing a white glove on his injured hand, but suggesting that, hey, he should be playing this week on the road against the Carolina Panthers.
21:59It's also a revenge game for Baker Mayfield. However, there's a chance that he will be out his wide receiver one in
22:05Mecca Ibuka, who was dealing with the rare concussed foot.
22:08Which is what the injury report says. Concussion slash foot.
22:11Concussion and a foot. Which I'm like, man, like, dude, these concussed feet, man.
22:16Like, my foot will not wake up. It's like when your foot is just like his foot fell asleep.
22:21And it's just like that for like days, days on end.
22:24Miserable. That'd be better. Maybe I think. I don't know.
22:27I'm not a doctor. Dude. Like, OK. This is it's the most Bucs thing this year, like with their luck, how this would happen.
22:34It's a Baker's back. Book is gone. Get come on, man.
22:38Like, let us let us get a break. Let us get one break here, please.
22:42I mean, if a book is out, which seems very likely because of the way that the rest of the week has
22:49to go, like he has to complete. I believe it's two more practices right before he can be cleared again.
22:54And typically players that get into the concussion protocol, especially by Wednesday, you're saying they're likely not going to be playing this week.
23:01So there's a good shot. He doesn't play this week.
23:04And that would mean we're probably going to be doing a lot of Ted Hurst and Chris Godwin this week, which I'm
23:11all aboard the Ted Hurst train, man. I've been waiting for him to get more and more opportunities.
23:16He's looked good when he's had it. Chris Godwin, it's going to be six yards and a fall down.
23:22So, I mean, if Baker's going to have himself a good return to form, I think it's probably going to have to be through Hurst.
23:29Yeah, I would agree. Hurst has definitely stood out to me watching these Buccaneers game.
23:33Big body receiver. They like to use him a lot in the red zone.
23:37So it will not necessarily be the entire Chris Godwin show, even if Godwin sees the most targets.
23:43Because to your point, he has not been efficient whatsoever.
23:46I mean, the whole Buccaneers passing game has not been efficient.
23:49And Egg Buka had 16 targets last week and didn't even crack 50 receiving yards.
23:53Which is never ideal, but obviously getting Baker. Question marks, though, about how effective Baker will be.
23:58Because let's not forget, before he got injured, he was bad.
24:02The Buccaneers were one of the worst offenses overall.
24:04So don't kind of like twist the history of what we've seen from this Buccaneers offense so far this season under Zach Robinson.
24:11It had not been good. And it's always weird when these quarterbacks come off of these hand finger injuries.
24:17I know that Burrow had that wrist injury and he was like, yeah, man, like, I don't really know how to come back from this.
24:24Like, it's a really weird injury. So the fact that Baker Mayfield had to, like, get his strength back in his grip, I think is kind of interesting.
24:32And the fact that he's going to be playing with a glove, which he traditionally doesn't do, is also something that you
24:39have to kind of consider when you're looking at this specific matchup against a team that I would look at the Carolina Panthers.
24:46Red hot team, right? Like, they are feeling really good.
24:49Bryce Young is playing some of his best ball.
24:51So it's weird to look at, like, a Panthers-Bucs game and be like, I mean, Carolina could continue to still kind of roll here.
24:58But even against a Baker Mayfield-Bucs team, like, they are not out of the water yet.
25:03Yeah, you'd think that, especially Carolina, with how banged up their secondary is, like, this would be a good opportunity for Baker to come back.
25:10But now he's missing his top receiver and he's not going to be at full health.
25:15Like, that game makes me very worried. So I don't know that I'm starting with anyone.
25:20Maybe I'm still Bucky Irving, right? But I think if you're desperate, you're going after Ted Hurst.
25:25But I don't really love anyone from the Bucs offense in this game if a Buc is going to be out.
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26:10Let's hit the comments real quick before we get to our final storylines.
26:14We did have a question about the Giants quarterback, J.J.
26:17McCarthy. Would you start J.J. McCarthy over Aaron Rodgers?
26:19I would not. I don't know where McCarthy is going to be in my rankings, but he might be last just because it is the Houston Texans.
26:27I know they grew up with explosive plays, but it does not give me any warm, fuzzy feeling to look at McCarthy as a starting quarterback.
26:35This may be over Cam Ward just because I can't.
26:38But I'm not starting him over Rodgers. I mean, there's a few guys that I'd start McCarthy over just simply because there's
26:44going to be a little bit of rushing upside, we'll assume, because it worked for him in his week one.
26:50Excuse me. Rodgers has just actually been kind of solid, and he's passing way more than I thought he would.
26:56This has not been an offense that has, even though they've been running well, they haven't been overly reliant on the run.
27:03It's still a Mike McCarthy offense it's going to throw.
27:06So, yeah, I'm good with Rodgers over McCarthy. Yeah, Rodgers is taken out of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Tom Brady pass right over expected.
27:13He's like, I want to do what Tom did in Tampa Bay where he just threw the ball every single time.
27:19I am curious if they keep this up, though, because Rodgers has been sacked a lot this year, and that obviously a
27:25repercussion of dropping back to throw it on. So I do wonder if they start to dial back the passing at some
27:32point as these hits kind of pile up on Aaron Rodgers.
27:35But, yeah, for right now against the Saints in Paris should be a fun game.
27:40I think you're still rolling with Aaron Rodgers. Would you trade away Jalen Warren and likely to get James Cook?
27:45I mean, I think I would need more context on the roster here, but in a vacuum, I think so.
27:51I think having James Cook wins your league. I know that having Isaiah likely is obviously it's such a differentiator at the tight end spot.
27:59But top five running backs just don't grow on trees, man.
28:02Like, it's just not there where I feel like you can stream tight end.
28:06Jalen Warren, that's one I want to get off now.
28:09Like, that's a hot potato. I just get it on someone else's team.
28:13So I'm OK with this one. Yeah. Yeah. Jalen Warren likely are going to be both on at bye week next week as well.
28:20James Cook is obviously on his bye week this week.
28:23So, again, this is an interesting time to strike on James Cook as both a trade away and trade for target, depending on when you need your wins.
28:31If you feel good right now and you can, hey, I can eat an L this week potentially.
28:36So I will acquire James Cook for a manager that needs a win this week.
28:41I think that this is a good deal, assuming that you have your tight end kind of figured out, which, again, considering
28:47where you got likely, there's a chance that you have another tight end on your roster that you feel good about.
28:54So I'm cool with upgrading in this capacity. And then you always have the risk that with McCarthy, maybe this Giants offense
29:00crumbles and it's just really bad and likely doesn't.
29:03I mean, I mean, right now, like, I mean, likely has been so, so good.
29:07Right. It feels like it actually can only really go down.
29:10But obviously at tight end, it's all relative because, oh, he's 80 percent of what he's been this season.
29:16You're still probably going to feel pretty good about that.
29:19Well, and I'm curious to see how this continues with J.J.
29:22McCarthy, because we don't know his tendencies and everything this Giants offense says that is a likely should be the number two target at the very worst.
29:30But we also don't know what that could mean with J.J.
29:33McCarthy. If they go back to running more, is that going to drop the pass volume here and being the number two target on a run heavy team?
29:42What does that turn into? So, I mean, there's like I still think Isaiah likely the top five tight end rest of
29:48season here, but there's just like the littlest bit of uncertainty that's coming into play now with that Giants offense.
29:54That could be good. Could be bad. Yeah. McCarthy famously targeted a lot of his tight ends at Michigan.
30:00So if that's something that they decide to run back, obviously didn't work out with Hawkinson that much in Minnesota.
30:05McCarthy also dealt with a ton of injuries. So let's see what else we have here from the chat.
30:11Someone said I'm still playing neighbors. Totally understand that.
30:14BC 16300 just traded Vidal and Omar Cooper for DJ Moore.
30:17How would you grade that trade, Alfredo? So Vidal and Omar Cooper.
30:20So two waiver wire guys for DJ Moore who's injured but should be back after the bye week.
30:26That's an A. That's an A for me. That feels like an A.
30:30I'm sorry. Adonai Mitchell's coming back for the Jets now, so we don't know how valuable Omar Cooper is really going to be.
30:36And honestly, there's like five targets on an offense that's run by Geno Smith.
30:41Like how great could it possibly be? You never know when to start him.
30:45When it comes to mistiming of hand injuries, did Adonai Mitchell just like have the worst possible?
30:50I remember we were previewing him before the Jets took on the Lions and it was like, dude, Mitchell's going to go off.
30:56And then you see his busted finger and then we haven't seen it for a month.
31:01It's crazy. And then they said that they weren't going to put him on IR and like, all right, well, should have just put him on IR.
31:09Because I think, yeah, he's missed. I think he's missed four games.
31:13It's four games. Yeah. So, yeah, Jets, Jets going to jet.
31:16Would you trade Saquon and Matthew Golden for Bucky Irving?
31:19Saquon and Golden for Bucky? No, no, no, no.
31:22Like I said to me, I love, I think I love Bucky still.
31:25And I think he was a great draft pick this year.
31:29I think Matthew Golden's more valuable than Bucky Irving at this point alone.
31:32So what I do, Saquon and a sweetener for Bucky?
31:35Sure. But I'm not, I'm not trading away Golden.
31:38I think, I think I'm okay with this. I think I'm cool with removing myself from Saquon.
31:43And because again, I don't know, really hard to project what he's going to do rest of the season, whether he's on
31:50the Eagles or whether he gets traded. Maybe this is me wearing egg on my face.
31:54Matthew Golden, I think is also really valuable. I would say this deal I would make if it's a scenario where I am really dying at running back.
32:02Whereas Matthew Golden, where you drafted him, it's, I mean, he was probably your wide receiver five, wide receiver six.
32:08But he's what? He's a top 12 wide receiver right now in fantasy points per game?
32:13Top 12 wide receiver. But in the back of my mind, I still get worried about, does Matt, does Matt LaFleur ruin
32:20everyone in terms of, well, Josh Jacobs is back.
32:22So we're going to go back to our run first offense and be really boring and really lame.
32:28It just, it scares me. I'm not as worried about that.
32:31Okay. I mean, I wish I wasn't, but like, he literally talked about this week.
32:35He's like, you can't be too reliant on the pass game.
32:38I'm like, why are you saying that? Yes, you can.
32:41Well, I mean, it's different though, right? Like they've had no running games.
32:45Like there's a big difference from being like probably the worst rushing attack in the league.
32:50By far. We got to get some running game here, which I, which I totally understandable.
32:55But like Jeannie's out of the bottle at this point.
32:58I mean, Christian Watson and Matthew Golden have been so valuable to this team.
33:02Tucker Craft hasn't been exactly what they wanted. And Jordan Love is looking better now.
33:06It's just about getting him consistent here. But we'll talk more about Josh Jacobs.
33:10I don't want to, I don't want to bury the lead there, but I know we'll talk about him more throughout the show.
33:17Okay. JJ over Rogers. We talked about that already.
33:20Drop Kincaid for Terrence Ferguson. Thank you. Kind sirs.
33:22I would keep Kincaid because the latest we got with Ferguson is that he's actually not coming back.
33:28Even after the four weeks. So you got to keep Kincaid.
33:31Yeah. Should I start Noel over Jamison Williams? I personally would not.
33:34You got to play Jamo in the dome at home.
33:37Yeah. No, it's Jamo. Pretty easy there. Noel had himself a nice long catch.
33:42But like outside of that, it was a pretty pedestrian game.
33:45And we're just going to see more and more Marvin Harrison Jr.
33:48Shout out to Metal James 8 in the chat.
33:51He was the one that was talking to us about Egbuka and about the rare foot concussion that he's dealing with.
33:57So shout out to Metal James for watching both the live stream for the trades with myself and Welsh and coming in hopping on the tailgate.
34:05So we appreciate that as well. I think that's it for all the questions.
34:09Again, one more here. Rogers or Patrick Mahomes? Mahomes obviously taking on the Seahawks.
34:13So he's going to be a little bit lower in the ranking.
34:17You're going to go Rogers? Rogers, man. Go back and look at these recent games with Mahomes.
34:22It's just he started off so hot. And then after that, it's been he's been good for real football.
34:27And he's been he's been keeping his team in games and he's been playing well for fantasy.
34:32It is not there and not. It's not all on him.
34:35It's just he doesn't have his weapons anymore. The Chiefs are really committing to running the football.
34:41And Mahomes has not been fantasy viable over the last few weeks.
34:44It's also Ken Walker revenge game. So if anybody's hitting pay dirt, fire him up.
34:48It's Ken Walker running back one overall this week.
34:51Easily six touchdowns. Let's go. I don't know how many I don't know how many touchdowns Ken Walker has scored at Lumen
34:58Field, but I'd be really curious to look it up and be like, could he score more in this game versus his entire career?
35:05Because it just feels like he never scored that many touchdowns because they were always giving the ball to Zach Charbonne in the red zone.
35:12Yeah. So that's just again, I'm sure he scored at plenty of touchdowns at home for the Seahawks, but I feel like
35:19he's a lot for double digit touchdowns, even in a tough match in Seattle.
35:23I don't think it actually matters. It's he's just playing on another level right now.
35:27And I mean, that's the team that he was Super Bowl MVP for.
35:31We're seeing how they struggle running the ball, dude.
35:34Like if I'm Ken Walker, man, I I had this game circled to start the year and how well he's been playing.
35:40Dude, that is going to be a special. Andy Reid's totally going to feed him.
35:44Andy Reid's totally going to feed him just to prove a point to dude.
35:49I like it when coaches reward their best players, right?
35:52Just yeah, man, you are balling out. You deserve to score the touchdowns.
35:55I know that with Gibbs in Detroit, they're talking about he's circling the LT record for touchdowns in a season.
36:01He wants to break that record. And that's a goal that the team can get behind.
36:06And it's like, why is Jared Goff being so bad for fantasy?
36:10It's like because they always give the ball to Gibbs in the red zone.
36:14Like that is literally why he doesn't throw more touchdowns because they're like, well, we got to get Gibbs 30 touchdowns this year.
36:20So we got to take him when we get the opportunities to do so.
36:25So in that game, I didn't know if I got this take from you, Alfredo, but someone asked about Jacobs.
36:30What do you think his workload is going to be like in this particular game?
36:35Do you think it's just like full stop 20 carries or is it 10, 50?
36:39What would you put? You had to put the under over on his carries in this game.
36:44What would you put that? Well, let's put the over under a 12 and a half.
36:4912 and a half. Yeah. Like, I don't think we're going to get a full workload, Josh Jacobs, but I do think
36:56they they just want to get him some reps.
36:58Right. And I think it'll probably be slow going at first.
37:01And eventually, as the field gets spread out, though, he'll start to get a few chunk plays here and there, maybe even
37:08a short touchdown just because they want to, you know, get him back into the swing of things.
37:13But this is also going to be a game that's probably very past script heavy.
37:18And because of that, I can see them continuing to use Pierre Strong, who was like relevant last week and had 55%
37:24snap share and caught five passes on six targets.
37:27And Josh Jacobs, not known for being the pass catching guy, at least not in the NFL, which is weird because in Alabama, he was a pass catcher.
37:35And I think that's something where we're going to see, OK, let's bring him along slowly.
37:40Then this is pure speculation, right? Pure speculation. I don't know.
37:43We're not in the meeting rooms there, but I this is a guy that also has not been at practice since June 2nd until today.
37:50This is today is his first practice being back like back in pads and doing everything.
37:55So it's going to take a little time to get him back into playing.
37:59But on the reverse side, you could argue that he's never been more fresh like this guy is so locked and loaded.
38:06So that's why it's going to be fun to kind of see how it all shakes out, because I can see both
38:12sides of the argument where it's like, dude, he's not football shape.
38:16It's like, dude, but he is not dealing with any nagging injuries, which was like a big thing with him last year
38:22in the second half of the season where this guy was like, dude, my knee is so banged up, but I'm going out there.
38:29He was playing when he probably shouldn't have been playing at all and hurting fantasy managers in that capacity.
38:35Because that's really the worst case scenario is when guys play, but they're really hurt and they struggle as a result.
38:41So at least, you know, he's healthy. We'll shall see how much in football shape, but a lot of what could be dictated by game script too.
38:49It's if the Packers are down in this game, well, you can't establish the run Michael floor or excuse me, Matt LaFleur.
38:56I'm sorry. As much as you want to everyone, you can't do it.
38:59You got to throw the ball here with Jordan Love.
39:02And I mean, that'll just make everybody happy. Right.
39:05Just, I mean, again, I don't want to be the bad guy here and be like, they're going to run the ball more.
39:12I'm just trying to be somewhat realistic with how this coach and team has operated in the past.
39:17And when they get Josh Jacobs, dude, it's like tunnel vision.
39:20It's like, no, we must feature and feed our aging running back.
39:24Oh God. But it pains me. Pains me. I don't want to see it.
39:28I don't want to see it. But what I do want to see though is the post game tailgate stream after my
39:34Patriots take on the Chicago bears after tomorrow's game.
39:37The fantasy dude will be telling you all about his biggest takeaways right here on the tailgate YouTube channel.
39:43Any predictions for that game? Alfredo Brown, are my paths going to the road with the upset to beat the Caleb Williams, Chicago bears?
39:50What's happening? Oh boy. I think that it's going to be tough for New England.
39:54Actually, I'm not going to lie. I think it's going to be a tough one because I don't think you know what
40:01Chicago bears team to actually prep for. We saw a very different.
40:04We saw Caleb Goff last week, who I think this hamstring injury is the best thing that could have ever happened to
40:11him because he's not running around like like tall Kyler, you know, and just like being frantic all the time.
40:17He was actually sitting behind his blocks waiting for things to develop.
40:20And like, that's just not a common thing that we have seen on Caleb Williams film over the years.
40:26So now you've got a Patriots defense that's coming in and saying, oh, okay.
40:30So even if we get pressure on him, he's just like, he's just not running because of this hamstring.
40:35He's getting the ball out quick. And that was something they did this past week was they got the ball out really
40:42fast and they let their, their weapons work. So is this a Ben Johnson, you know, rug pull last week?
40:48You saw us throw a bunch of short stuff and Caleb wasn't running.
40:52And then this week, all of a sudden we're back to the old bears.
40:56We're going deep. Caleb's running around. We're just going to, you know, give you a little trickeration here.
41:01I don't know that. I think that's going to make it tough.
41:05I would agree that this is a tough spot for new England on a short week going on the road.
41:11Never a great spot. Offensive line really banged up.
41:13I know that at least two starters are not going to play.
41:17Maybe a third starter is going to potentially be out.
41:20And this office line had already been compromised with injuries earlier in the season.
41:24I think about that Jaguars matchup. The Jaguars were a really tough matchup for the Patriots because they had so much depth
41:30on the offense where having Christian Gonzalez to neutralize one piece doesn't actually move the needle.
41:35So if they take away Roman Dunze, I don't know if that's going to actually help them win the game because Roman
41:41Dunze really hasn't been a consistent factor in this offense.
41:44Obviously he can make plays, but if it's burdened Colston Loveland, especially with this run game too, that the Bears can run on anybody.
41:52So although Barrymore, Milton Williams are really good up front, it's still going to be a big challenge for the Pats.
41:58So I actually kind of like the Bears here as well, even as a Patriots fan.
42:02So it pains me, but I know my team pretty well.
42:06And I know when they match up good against certain defenses and offenses, this is not one where I feel good about them on the road.
42:13So we shall see as it all pans out.
42:16We do have one more question I want to get to because someone just joined in.
42:21They gave us a follow. So we want to answer their question here.
42:25So the fantasy minion shout out to you for the follow on the tailgate.
42:29Sal, can you throw their question up real quick before we get out of here?
42:33I'm one in five this year. Would Amon Ra be a good trade to get Tyson Denzel Boston in a 2027 late
42:40first, or should I hold Amon Ra? This is a dynasty question.
42:43Seems pretty simple to me that this is a pretty strong return for someone like St.
42:48Brian. You're getting, I think the equivalent to at least two first round picks with Tyson and the late 2027 first plus
42:54Boston who has played like a rookie first round pick.
42:57Do you have any other thoughts, Alfredo, for this rebuilding team?
43:01I'd man. This one's tough because the whole thing with Boston is, yes, he's flashed, but he's flashed at times.
43:06And that whole receiver room, the pass catchers, it's a little bit of a merry-go-round of who's going to be the guy that week.
43:13And Deshaun Watson, you don't know what the future is there.
43:17Jordan Tyson dealt with hamstring injuries in college. He's dealing with one now.
43:21We don't know if he's going to play this year or this week or whatever it is.
43:26And I love the talent of Jordan Tyson. And the 2027 late first, like, I don't know.
43:31I know it sounds crazy because it's essentially like getting three firsts for a Monro St.
43:35Brown. And I'm still saying, no, I'd rather have a Monro St.
43:39Brown. And I know that's weird, especially for a rebuilding team.
43:42But there's a big difference between like rebuilding and then just tearing it all the way down to the studs where you
43:49don't have anyone good on your team. If you're going to do it, I'd almost rather just get a whole mess of
43:55picks and maybe some different players do it for me instead of those specific players.
43:59I think that's what it is for me. All right.
44:02There you have it. I'm Andrew Erickson. He's Alfredo Brown.
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