0:00This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hello everybody, welcome into the FantasyPros - Fantasy Football Podcast.
0:05I'm Ryan Wormeli, joined by Andrew Erickson. We were talking some Week 9 Buys and Sells.
0:09This is our Quarterbacks and Running Backs edition of the show.
0:12Just a couple weeks left here, Erickson, before we switch this over to a prediction show.
0:17There's not much time left in the fantasy season for you to make trades if you're in a league that has any kind of trade deadline.
0:24Just a couple of weeks away here throughout November and then we'll be changing up the format of this show.
0:29That's a little bit of housekeeping tease for you.
0:32How are you feeling today here through Week 8?
0:34Well, it seems like through the wavelengths, the radio waves, you have given me some of your sickness, Worm.
0:39So thanks for that. But besides that, coming off a really entertaining Monday Night Football game where the Chicago Bears, man, what a statement.
0:46Victory going up to Seattle, putting 34 points on the vaunted Seahawks defense.
0:50That is at the most points that they've given up.
0:52I think it's the most points they've probably given up in a game since they faced Ben Johnson's Lions offense.
0:58A couple of years ago when they gave up 40 points.
1:01So I know that we talked a lot on some of the tailgate shows about what this matchup is going to be like.
1:07Ben Johnson with extra time against Mike McDonald. And dude, the Bears came out on top, man.
1:12Like this team looks like it's Super Bowl ready.
1:15And I'm already regretting talking about, oh, well, the Lions should be the favorites to win the NFC North that we talked about on yesterday's tailgate show.
1:22So I'm immediately trying to retract all of those takes because of how well the Bears looked with how impactful Jeffrey Simmons was.
1:28I could not believe I'm looking at the stat right now that I pulled from NextGenStats of his impact.
1:34I know they mentioned on the broadcast basically how much of an impact he made.
1:38So he had one pressure and one sack on 34 pass rushes, which was a team high.
1:42He was the only Chicago defensive lineman to record double digit double teams.
1:46So drawing a ton of attention from the Seahawks offensive line.
1:49On the eight plays that Simmons was off the field, the Bears allowed 13.3 yards per play, 62.5% success rate, 37.5% explosive pass play rate.
1:56And then when he was on the field, 48 of the other 56 defensive snaps, defense allowed three yards per play, 25%
2:02success rate, five tackles for loss when on the field.
2:05So dude, they could have traded five first round picks.
2:08It seems like to get Jeffrey Simmons based on how bad the defense was before, how bad they weren't in a small sample size against the Seahawks offense.
2:15Just, I mean, are the Bears not like the Super Bowl?
2:18I don't say Super Bowl favorites, but after this game and I have not looked at any of the odds, but I
2:24can imagine they were surging up the Super Bowl odds.
2:27Eric said, I was the one on the show yesterday with on the tailgate who was saying, why are you guys both
2:33aligned on the Lions winning the North? I think the Bears are going to be the better team going forward here.
2:39You were right. And the schedule's not that different.
2:41I feel real good about that. They, it, it was a statement is the right way to put it.
2:47Like you said, it was a statement game by them, a statement of intent, a statement of, Hey, this Jeffrey Simmons thing is going to work out.
2:54To do that in Seattle is really incredible. They have gotten really improved odds.
2:58Consensus odds on bettingpros.com have them with the third best odds to win the Super Bowl this year.
3:03That's second best in the NFC behind only the Niners, which is reasonable.
3:07I don't think you need to put them ahead of them, but it goes not, it goes bills, then Niners, then the Bears.
3:13And I think that's valid. I mean, again, they, they Simmons was a perfect fit for what they needed and also an elite player.
3:20Like it's just a ridiculously good acquisition for them.
3:22And I think it, I think it's going to look a lot more games like that going forward.
3:27If I'm being perfectly honest, I think that is, um, that that's not going away.
3:31I think the Bears are gonna be really, really, really good the rest of the season.
3:3634-17, by the way, was the final on that one.
3:38Um, they did give up more than 34 points twice last year, the Seahawks.
3:42It's the most they've given up this year. Um, they allowed 37 points to the Rams in that crazy, uh, late season primetime game.
3:49Uh, and then they also allowed 38 when they lost to the Bucks early last year.
3:53If you remember that one, it was like their only, it was like their only loss to a non-Rams team, like the entire season, basically.
4:00So, uh, that's what it felt like. So yeah, uh, really, really impressed by the Bears, both defensively and offensively doing that in Seattle.
4:07Um, they're awesome. I actually think Erickson, we should, um, basically just go right into our running backs to buy.
4:12And I'm going to go ahead of you this time because I'm talking about a Bears running back.
4:17I have my running back to buy as Kyle Manungay.
4:20And I was kind of thinking about him as an option, you know, hopefully coming back from injury soon, even before, uh, this game last night.
4:27But this just makes me even more certain about it.
4:30This team obviously can run the ball really well.
4:32Um, three touchdowns for DeAndre Swift. They know how to run the ball when they're close to the goal line.
4:38They did an awesome job designing those plays with goal-to-go situations in Seattle last night.
4:42But DeAndre Swift was not very effective. 27 carries, just 69 yards.
4:45It's an average of 2.6 yards per carry. There is room in this backfield for a, another running back to be more
4:52efficient, be more explosive, and take over the backfield.
4:54I mean, Swift carried the ball 27 times his longest run was 7 yards.
4:58I know the Seahawks do that to a lot of teams, so I'm not saying that Swift is buried or anything like that.
5:04But there's an opportunity here for Kyle Manungay to do what he's done a couple of times this season already, only playing
5:10three or four games, which is have these big explosive games despite sharing the backfield with DeAndre Swift.
5:15Um, I think there will be a lot more touchdowns to go.
5:19I think the Bears are going to be leading a lot of games the rest of the season and therefore are going
5:25to have a lot of opportunities to be running out the clock with this elite, well-designed run game, uh, with Kyle Manungay getting a lot of carries.
5:32And he's only about RB30. He was, that's what it was last I checked.
5:36Let me see where he is now, actually, see if that's moved at all.
5:40I doubt it would have moved too much because he didn't actually play, of course.
5:44Yeah, still RB30 in the consensus rest-of-season rankings. Um, you know, he's, was not on IR, but has been ruled out several games in a row.
5:51You would think the fact that they're not putting him on IR means he should be back relatively soon.
5:56He has the bye in Week 10, so maybe we miss out on one more.
6:01I don't care because it's Bucs this week, which is a tough matchup for any running back.
6:05And then the bye. After that, though, you're making this trade for Week 11 and beyond.
6:10You get the Saints, the Lions, the Jags, which is tough, although they did lose Hamilton, so maybe that won't be as tough.
6:16Miami, Buffalo, Green Bay, and Detroit. That's how you run through Week 11 through Week 17.
6:20You make the trade for Kyle Manungay because he's affordable right now as a guy who might not be that helpful the next two weeks.
6:27But it's going to be really good the rest of the season and is only ranked RB30.
6:32I think that's going to look too low by the time we get to Week 11 and beyond.
6:37So I want to make that trade a couple weeks early when it's still going to be really cheap and then really reap those benefits afterwards.
6:44So sorry to jump you. Usually we do your running back first.
6:47But since we were talking about the Bears, last night to me was very emblematic of why Manungay is a good target.
6:54Right. Buying a player that hasn't played in over a month.
6:57I think this is the perfect move for contending teams.
6:59Obviously, if you need wins right now, Kyle Manungay is not going to help you because I think that we're probably going
7:05to be at least two more weeks until we see him hit the field.
7:09It doesn't make sense for them to rush him back based on because he was dealing with a foot or excuse me, a toe and thumb injury.
7:17So working on these phalanges is the issue with Kyle Manungay.
7:20You can relate to the thumb, by the way, as I show on YouTube.
7:24I think that this is a great move here.
7:26You outline the rest of season schedule for the Chicago Bears.
7:29Excellent for their run game. And the run game has kind of been lackluster a little bit without Kyle Manungay.
7:35You could argue that he was actually performing better than DeAndre Swift at times just like from a per-touch basis.
7:40And we know that Swift, is he going to keep up this type of momentum and pace?
7:45I mean, I think that he's a top six running back.
7:48Obviously, he got the three touchdowns last night, which you're getting, you're not complaining.
7:52This isn't a Sal DeAndre Swift, but it's a point where there's enough room here for both running backs to thrive and probably even be top 12 guys.
8:00I'm actually kind of curious. I want to see if you can mark this.
8:03Kyle Manungay, where does he rank in terms of points per game among running backs in half PPR this season?
8:09I can pull that up on the points per game.
8:12I know what the answer is. I want to see if you can tell or if you know off the top of your head.
8:18I don't know off the top of my head.
8:21And I would guess points per game because he had two games with over 100 rushing yards despite only playing four weeks.
8:27The other two games, he didn't really do much of anything.
8:30I'm going to guess, yeah, it looks like an average of 10.
8:33You can give it a range too. You don't have to list the number.
8:37Yeah, I'm just trying to think. I would say probably a little.
8:40He's not far off from about 15 points a game, I think.
8:44I would say, and this is half PPR scoring you're asking?
8:47Yeah. I would say probably like RB 12. Actually, that sounds about right.
8:50I think right about 12. What is it? Overshot it a little bit, but you're obviously bullish on Kyle Manungay.
8:56He's our Manungay. What a guy, Manungay. Yes, we are the Manungays.
8:59RB 16. Okay. Well, the reason I said 12 is because I just feel like running back has been such a struggle
9:05this year that I just assumed that being in that range of 15 points per game probably would be close to a top 12 running back.
9:12But yeah, I mean, that's still like a high-end RB2 right there.
9:16Yeah. So I think that makes tons of sense.
9:18He's actually tied with a running back we were going to talk about a little bit earlier in points per game, which is interesting enough.
9:25So yeah, Manungay, out of sight, out of mind.
9:28Perfect buy low for a contending team because they've shown that, look, even though DeAndre Swift has been mostly, the guy, there's
9:34been times where they've worked in Roshon Johnson. He has not looked that great.
9:38So I think that they're going to go right back to Manungay once he is healthy and good to go.
9:43And there's an argument to be made where if Swift, again, given all the touches that he's taken on over the last
9:49couple of games without Manungay in the lineup, that Manungay might actually end up leading a little bit more as the Bears
9:55lean on the run game, try to go into the playoffs, keeping DeAndre Swift fresh for a playoff run.
10:00I really think that week 11 through week 17 is going to feed families.
10:04That will win people fantasy leagues this season if you have Bears.
10:08And that second Vikings matchup is week 18. You don't have to worry about it.
10:12I mean, I know that was a weird weather game anyway in that first week.
10:16But if you are scared of the Vikings defense, that's week 18.
10:19You don't have to face them again. So yeah, I think Manungay is a really, really exciting person to go by if
10:25you are in really strong playoff position already. So that's my running back to buy.
10:29Let's go to yours where we usually start, Eric.
10:32Who are you looking to buy at the running back position?
10:35Ashton Gentry, running back for the Las Vegas Raiders, who teased it.
10:38He's actually tied with Kyle Manungay in points per game as the RB 16, which is kind of where exactly his rest of season rank is.
10:45So the reason I think Gentry is an interesting buy low is because his stock seemingly has hit rock bottom, right?
10:51Coming off a game where he had two carries, gets out carried significantly compared to Mike Washington, who had 25 carries for 83 yards.
10:58But when you look at the actual production in terms of fantasy points, Ashton Gentry scored more fantasy points than Mike Washington
11:04did because of the receiving usage that has been Ashton Gentry's staple all year long.
11:08Fourth in routes run, first in targets, first in catches, first in receiving yards, fourth in yards per route run, fourth in target rate.
11:15So I understand why people are frustrated with Ashton Gentry again, obviously not living up to the draft capital where he took
11:21him at the end of the first round, beginning of the second round.
11:24He's been in and out of the lineup a little bit with his ankle injury.
11:29We still don't know how 100% healthy he is.
11:31And now coming off a game, basically every single week where his carries have gone down since the start of the year,
11:37every single game, it's been less and less, less.
11:40There was one week where it was 10 carries and then 10 carries the next week.
11:44But besides that, it's basically been like a steady decline.
11:47Fine. But the receiving is so important for the game that we play in fantasy football, right?
11:51It'd be a different thing if so if Gentry was doing all these great things from a rushing perspective, but it was
11:57a total dud in the passing game and he was still RB 16.
12:01Would we feel the same way about him? I just think that the narrative with him is just it's so bad that he's terrible.
12:08Mike Washington is so much better than Ashton Gentry is and maybe he's better as a rusher.
12:12But in terms of playing fantasy football, half PPR, full PPR, Ashton Gentry is RB 16.
12:17And I don't think that that's going to be going away, especially if him as a receiver.
12:22Now, Clint Kubiak obviously did kind of walk back a little bit of did we bench Ashton Gentry?
12:26Basically, he talked about how they were going to get Mike Washington more involved, but they still want to use Mike Washington.
12:33They still want to use Ashton Gentry. They still want to use Dylan Lobby.
12:36And I think that how good Gentry's been in the passing game, that's not going to go away.
12:41Even Kubiak even mentioned that Ashton, again, made huge plays for us in the passing game.
12:46He ripped off that one really big catch and run that helped the Raiders score.
12:50So even if Mike Washington is leading the team in carries, does that mean he's going to lead the team in fantasy points?
12:56I don't think so, because that definitely wasn't the case here in week eight.
13:00So looking ahead at some of the schedule, 49ers this week.
13:03What are the 49ers been the worst at against running backs this year?
13:07Not against rushing yards. They've allowed the most catches, third most yards to running backs in the receiving game, fifth most targets
13:13to running backs in the receiving game. So this isn't a recommendation for Gentry as, oh, he's going to take back the RB1 role.
13:19He's going to surge. I do think that he's going to bounce back a little bit when it comes to the carries.
13:26I don't think it's going to be this one sided, especially because Mike Washington wasn't necessarily super efficient or effective.
13:31He had nine red zone carries. He did not score a single touchdown against the New York Jets.
13:36He was stuffed after stuffed after stuffed. And they had to eventually just turn it to Kirk Cousins to just get the
13:42QB sneak because they could not find the end zone.
13:45And Ashton Gentry was still involved at a lot of the red zone plays.
13:49One of his two carries was actually in the red zone.
13:52So it's still not a foregone conclusion that Mike Washington has taken over the red zone duties because neither running back has
13:58been particularly great rushing in the red zone. So I just think that the narrative run Gentry is so low right now
14:04where you can buy him for pennies on the dollar.
14:07I know we talked about this guy last week as a sell high.
14:10I think you can definitely trade Tony Pollard to get Ashton Gentry.
14:14I think that's definitely within the range of outcomes.
14:16And maybe this is just, you know, capitulating that we were wrong about trading Tony Pollard last week.
14:21But I still feel like he is a sell high type of candidate.
14:25And if you can get Ashton Gentry, who has been a very great staple in the receiving game all year, that's the
14:31angle that I kind of want to take here.
14:33So Ashton Gentry, what do you think? Before I give you what I think, let me ask you two other names quickly.
14:39Josh Jacobs and Ollie Gordon. They're ranked between where Gentry is ranked in the rest of season rankings and where Pollard is ranked.
14:46Are those two guys that you would consider moving for Gentry as well?
14:49I think Jacobs is tough because I don't know how to.
14:52The suspension thing risk is really tough with him where we kind of all don't really know how long this could last.
14:58I think that obviously if you're ranking ahead for next week, Jacobs is going to be ranked well ahead of Ashton Gentry.
15:04So I think in the short term, you probably just want to keep Jacobs if you really need wins right now.
15:10But in the long term, I think maybe you'd want to buy into Ashton Gentry as a second year player, again, trying
15:16to adapt to a new offensive system. Maybe they get him going a little bit more in the second half of the season.
15:23So that's the angle that I would kind of look at it.
15:26So contending team, maybe you look more ahead towards Ashton Gentry banking on Jacobs not being there towards the end of the
15:32season versus I need wins right now. You probably want to just hold Jacobs because he's going to be the bell cow
15:38for the Green Bay Packers until the NFL decides to suspend him or finish their process of the legal situation.
15:44I think I'm more willing to trade Jacobs than you are because it's not just the risk of that.
15:49It's also the fact that he hasn't looked – he's gotten the touchdowns.
15:52That's why he's been a really high-scoring player, and maybe that continues.
15:56But it's not like he's been efficient or particularly effective on the ground.
15:59He's gotten the passing game usage, which is nice.
16:02But he's averaging, what, like 2.5 yards per carry, something like that, on the season.
16:06He has 2.3 yards per attempt on the ground so far.
16:09It's not all his fault, I'm saying. The offensive line is not very good there or anything.
16:14There's a lot of stuff going on with the running game in Green Bay.
16:18But I feel like if the touchdowns go away, this might start to look pretty bad.
16:22And Jacobs' next four weeks are at New England, home against Minnesota, a bye week, and at the Rams.
16:27It's a really, really friendly schedule after that. But the next month is maybe not that helpful to you for fantasy anyway.
16:33Again, he needs to get in the end zone to be effective.
16:37So I think I would trade him for Gentie almost regardless of your current situation.
16:41But I understand if you want to frame it more as if you're a contender or you want Gentie.
16:46And if you really need wins now, you want Jacobs.
16:49But I'm not sure how helpful Jacobs will be unless he keeps falling in the end zone.
16:53In which case, obviously, that's going to be really helpful.
16:56Yeah, Gentie, like I just am such a believer in Clint Kubiak that I want to be invested in this offense, generally speaking.
17:03And Gentie being ranked outside the top 15 at the position is an opportunity.
17:06I think it's one of those where I'm not 100% sold that it will work out for you this year.
17:12Like obviously, I still really believe in Gentie in terms of like a dynasty asset or whatever.
17:17I'm not 100% sold that it will work out this year because it's just hard to play through injuries.
17:22And like you said, he's getting less workload. We don't really know the full extent of the health of his ankle.
17:28But I think it is a really smart process.
17:30I think it's smart to say we believe this guy is an elite talent.
17:34He's in what feels like an ascending offense that's been good.
17:37And he's ranked outside the top 15 at a position where there's really not a lot of certainty outside of that top 15 to 18 range.
17:44And he's ranked 16th. I think getting a guy in the back end of that group is just smart.
17:49I think you were mentioning some of the guys who are ranked lower than him as, oh, I would trade Tony Pollard
17:56to get Gentie and think he can do that.
17:58I look at some of the guys ahead of him and feel like I'd be interested in downgrading to Gentie while getting another piece.
18:05If I could – like Derrick Henry is ranked ahead of him still.
18:08So if I could trade Derrick Henry, who I talked about as a sell two weeks ago on the show, and obviously
18:14that looks a lot more prescient now with the Lamar injury.
18:17It's for unfortunate reasons, of course. But if you can trade Derrick Henry to downgrade a couple of spots at running back
18:23and get a receiver lottery ticket thrown in, I like that a lot if I'm looking at my team.
18:29I think even somebody like DeAndre Swift who we just talked about, like if you think Menonga will come in and maybe
18:35get more workload than you expect rest of season.
18:37I'm not saying you have to go sell DeAndre Swift.
18:40I still like him, but he's RB11 versus Gentie, RB16.
18:43If I can go from Swift to Gentie and get – insert wide receiver 30 in your rankings here, then to me,
18:49I think that might be a good process. A couple other names around Gentie.
18:53There's a bunch of receivers that maybe you'd be willing to part with if you need running back help.
18:58Garrett Wilson, George Pickens, Jameson Williams. Some couple receiver names that maybe are your wide receiver three on your team.
19:03Pickens has obviously been a major disappointment. Maybe you can flip him for Gentie, also a major disappointment.
19:08Again, trading your trash for someone else's trash at a position of need is something that I recommended doing a couple weeks ago.
19:15So maybe that's a move that you can make.
19:17I also just think that – I don't think the market views Gentie as RB16, to be totally honest.
19:23Like, if you just mention him, it's – he sucks.
19:25He's so terrible. Like, he's garbage. And maybe he's not a good runner.
19:29That's obviously been the fact, but he catches passes.
19:31He's the number one running back across almost every single receiving metric this season.
19:35And that scores a ton of fantasy points. So that's the reason I think that he is a buy, just because the
19:41stock has hit rock bottom with Gentie after he had two carries.
19:45Which, if you had to take the under over on how many carries he has against the 49ers, you're going to take the over on two carries.
19:52Like, we've seen backfields flip very, very quickly from week to week.
19:55The Giants, a couple weeks ago, right? Skadaboo, dead.
19:58Dead on arrival. Never going to play ever again.
20:00And then he gets the bell cow usage the very next week.
20:04So I just wouldn't write off Ash Jennings completely after this one game blip where, again, he had 10 fewer yards than
20:10Mike Washington despite a touch discrepancy of, like, 20.
20:12And he had just 10 fewer yards from scrimmage.
20:15And he scored more fantasy points because he just caught passes.
20:18And Mike Washington didn't. So that's something that I just don't think needs to get lost.
20:22Again, I'm not saying I agree with why fantasy points are scored this way.
20:26It's just the way it is. So that's what matters.
20:29And before we get off the running backs to buy, I don't think you mentioned anybody that you would trade to get Kyle Mononga.
20:35Any names that when you look at the rest of season rankings around him?
20:39Because I feel like you can try trade bench pieces to get him.
20:43I mean, he's ranked pretty low relative to his rankings.
20:46Yeah, I think somebody like – so the three names directly ahead of him in the rankings are Jeremiah Love, Jordan Mason, Braylon Allen.
20:52Those are all really interesting names for all very different reasons.
20:55Right ahead of those guys is a player you're about to talk about as a sell that I would be interested in for sure.
21:02Cam Scadaboo, just as a tease. We'll get into a deeper conversation there.
21:05But that is your running back to sell this week.
21:08I think Scadaboo for Mononga is something like – I wouldn't actually hate that if you're a contender.
21:13Some of the names after him, Travis A. Chan, Woody Marks, Chad White.
21:17I don't know if you can move those to get Mononga.
21:20If you can, I definitely would. And Marion Hampton, if you've been holding on to him and somebody wants to take the swing, go do it.
21:27I think the receivers is probably where there's more obvious fits would be my guess.
21:31And looking at some of the receivers, could you move Lad McConkie coming off of a decent game if you're just like
21:37wanting to get off of the Chargers? Could you move maybe like Omar Cooper if you say, hey, I think this is
21:43going to be going forward too much of a headache with A.D.
21:47Mitchell and Garrett Wilson. And I just don't want to ride this roller coaster or trade him for Kyle Mononga.
21:52I think that's interesting. So I think those are – A.J.
21:55Brown, if you can sell the name value. I think those are probably some of the names that stand out to me
22:01that are in roughly similar rankings ranges compared to Kyle Mononga.
22:04Does those sound crazy to you or do any of those kind of pique your interest?
22:09I think they all kind of do. I think Mononga, you outlined it.
22:12He could be a league winner down the stretch in terms of just the way that the schedule sets up.
22:18If he and Swift are operating closer to a 1A, 1B and not a number one, number two like it was earlier in the season.
22:25I think an actual perfect name to flip him, Michael Wilson.
22:28Coming off a monster game against Dallas. You get the Gardu Minchu mania kind of bump here with office production coming with Minchu.
22:34People are excited about Minchu. He's fun. He's got the mustache.
22:37Seattle just lost to the Bears. Their defense sucks.
22:40So I think that's a move that you can make, especially because Mononga, dude, he's just been sitting on your bench in
22:46your IR spot just collecting dust, doing nothing. Especially if that team needs wins right now, Mononga is not going to help them.
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26:11Erickson, I just mentioned that you're running back to sell Cam Scadaboo.
26:14Why is he on this list for you? Because I am not convinced that the Giants are going to move forward rest
26:20of the season with him as their RB1. Now, we're recording this on Tuesday, November 3rd.
26:25As of right now, the Giants have not made a move for any other running backs in the trade market.
26:30However, I think that that's very much in play, whether it is Jonathan Taylor, whether it is Derrick Henry potentially reuniting with Harbaugh in New York.
26:37I think that the Giants are going to add somebody before the trade deadline at the running back position, given all the injuries that they're dealing with.
26:45They put Tyrone Tracy on injured reserve before their bye week.
26:48And Cam Scadaboo is also dealing with a hamstring injury that he suffered at the end of the Giants' last game in
26:54week seven before they went on bye. Scadaboo told ESPN that, hey, he felt something in his hamstring towards the end of that game on his final carry.
27:02Sealed the win for the New York Giants. And that's why I wanted to get him off my roster ASAP.
27:07Because coming out of the bye week, it's already been announced that he is day-to-day with his hamstring injury.
27:12And this was from Jordan Renan from ESPN reporting, the Giants reporter, that he's already looked at as a game-time decision this week against the Philadelphia Eagles.
27:20Which is being played on Sunday. Now, we know the Eagles have been a great matchup for running backs so far this season.
27:26They've given up 100 rushing yards to every single team that they have faced.
27:30So they have fallen far from grace from being this elite defense to be feared.
27:34They're a defense you want to attack. We might see Devin Singletary be the RB1 this week.
27:39Or maybe Jonathan Taylor. Like, we don't know what's going to happen.
27:42That being said, I want to get Scadaboo up my roster as soon as possible.
27:46Again, even when he was the bell cow for the Giants, he'd been really more of an RB3 most of the season.
27:52And most of his weeks, even when he was seeing the bell cow usage.
27:56Obviously, in the last game we saw him, it was a career high across the board and how effective he was after getting benched the week prior.
28:04But the Giants have told us all offseason that they were never satisfied with the running back room of Scadaboo and Tyrone Tracy and Devin Singletary.
28:11And it's why they've rotated so many different guys.
28:13It's why they added Najee Harris and then cut Najee Harris.
28:16They were in on Kenneth Walker. That was one of the reports that we got throughout free agency.
28:21They were very interested in Jeremiah Love during the NFL draft.
28:24And I think they're going to make a move for another running back here.
28:28And you're going to see Scadaboo's value drop significantly.
28:31So I'm trying to package him up with somebody else that needs a running back and get him off my roster.
28:37Because I think his value is going to depreciate very, very quickly.
28:40Do you agree with my thought of Scadaboo for Monungay?
28:43Yes. I would just do that right now. Rip off the Band-Aid and not even sweat the, oh, did the Giants add
28:49Jonathan Taylor or one of these other guys? Yeah.
28:51I think this is a really good call. Doing this before the Giants make a move for a running back is very smart.
28:58You want to get out ahead of it before his value creators.
29:01I was not very high on Scadaboo, honestly, coming into the season.
29:04And some of the times he's gotten the usage that makes me feel like I had the wrong call there.
29:10And obviously he's coming off his best game of the year prior to the bye week in terms of the production.
29:15But yeah, like the fact that the injury is still lingering coming out of the bye week is always very scary.
29:21That's always, that's never a good sign when somebody gets the bye week and then early that next week they're already talking about a game time decision.
29:29That looks, makes me feel very uncomfortable with the health wise.
29:32And this is the team we have all circled to be adding a running back, right?
29:36On every show with the tailgate, on every trade show, I feel like you, me, and Debro have been talking about, is this the Jonathan Taylor team?
29:44You brought up, is this the Derrick Henry team?
29:46I think more so than any other team, their name has come up as a, they need to go out and get,
29:52or want to go out and get a running back here.
29:55And when that happens, regardless of if it's Jonathan Taylor or somebody a lot lower on the totem pole, it's going to mess with his carries.
30:02And he's right now ranks as RB 26. And I don't think he will be a top 24 running back rest of season once this trade happens.
30:10So I do think there is an opportunity to, I know, again, he's not ranked to the top 24.
30:15He's just outside it, but like, I think it will probably look pretty bad.
30:19And, and this is a, like, I don't have a chat, I guess what I'm saying.
30:23I feel like it's a long winded way of saying, like, I think you're spot on.
30:28And I firmly agree with this. Where is he ranked for you rest of season?
30:32So I have him RB 31, I believe. So lower than consensus.
30:35I'm probably bringing down his rest of season ranking.
30:38And someone that he's handholding with, right, kind of wedged in between.
30:41So Mononga is right there. See if he could ever turn it around in the second half of the season, Jeremiah Love, right?
30:47Who has like a third ankle injury, which, dude, I cannot believe that this is not how it related to any of his other ankle injuries.
30:55It's a totally different. How many ankles does this guy have?
30:58Does he have a third ankle? What about like maybe one of these rookie receivers?
31:02Scadaboo for a Denzel Boston. Scadaboo for a Casey Concepcion.
31:05Scadaboo for a Jeremy Bernard, Jordan Tyson, Omar Cooper.
31:07These guys are all ranked in the 30s at receiver.
31:10So I feel like you just look at the rankings.
31:13That's a very doable trade, but you're taking maybe some more upside with the rookie receivers.
31:17Hoping one of those guys kind of breaks out in the second half of the year.
31:21Yeah, I like that move a lot. I think Carnell Tate's another one who I know we're going to talk about in
31:27a receivers version of the show, but if you can't get him.
31:31You probably have to do a little bit more to get to it.
31:34Yeah, that would seem, it feels harder to get, but.
31:37But Scadaboo with a rookie receiver that's popped recently.
31:40So Scadaboo plus Lemon, Scadaboo plus Antonio Williams, guys that are kind of like surging up a little bit.
31:45Again, I think packaging Scadaboo is probably the best idea because there is some appeal with him because we also could be
31:51wrong and the Giants don't add a running back.
31:53But even in that scenario, is he full-bound Blaukow?
31:56How healthy is he? Dude, these hamstringers have been brutal this season with some of these running backs.
32:01And Scadaboo, we already know he's not a player that wins with speed or acceleration.
32:05Like he is a bulldozer, right? And if he's not operating at 100%, like how effective is he going to be out
32:11there if he's dealing with a hamstring injury? So that's where I get concerned about him, especially after the bye week.
32:17The fact that he's not practicing or that he's not 100%, that is a major red flag.
32:22And you know, Scadaboo, we already saw him lose his job once, right?
32:25You know, he's going to want to push to play as soon as he can, because he knows that any missed opportunities could cost him his job.
32:33And maybe that ends up biting him in the long run.
32:36Yeah. Let's go to buy, right? I'm going to buy him back to sell.
32:40It's a name that you mentioned. It's Jonathan Taylor.
32:42And this isn't to say that I think Jonathan Taylor is washed.
32:45This isn't to say that I think he's stuck with the Colts, because I think he obviously very much could get traded here.
32:52As of right now, the time we're recording this, that no move has been made.
32:56The thing with Jonathan Taylor for me is that he's ranked his RB7 in the consensus rest of season rankings.
33:01And I think that's probably not too far off from where his market value is.
33:05Like sometimes we look at these rankings and it's like, well, that's what the experts are saying, but what do people actually think?
33:12Like, I think people still think of Jonathan Taylor as like a very elite running back.
33:16He's been RB5 on the season. Like he's produced and has not hurt you if you invested in him.
33:21But I think he's ranked as if the trade is going to happen.
33:25And there's a chance it doesn't. And if it if it doesn't happen, I think RB7 is just too high on this Colts team.
33:32This this entire Colts season is falling apart. It is it is very much clear what direction this is going in.
33:37And I think the morale is only going to get worse.
33:41I think the offense is only going to get less efficient.
33:44I think the season is going to truly be one of the disaster seasons here in Indianapolis.
33:48He's also not that he gets like three to four targets a game.
33:52Not that much usage in the passing game to make up for if they end up trailing in a lot of these
33:58games going forward, which I expect to happen. So if he stays on this team, which there is a nonzero chance it happens.
34:04I think RB7 is simply too high. If he does get traded, I don't know how much higher you can move him.
34:10The guys ahead of him in the rest of the season rankings, Jameer Gibbs, Bijan Robinson, Kenneth Walker, James Cook, Christian McCaffrey, Kyron Williams.
34:17No matter where Jonathan Taylor goes, I don't think you can rank him ahead of any of those guys.
34:22Maybe you disagree and I'd love to hear if you do.
34:25But I think those guys are pretty set it and forget it as a top five or six group of running backs
34:31in the rest of season rankings, like obviously assuming health.
34:34So I feel like he is already being ranked at what his ceiling ranking is if a move is made and it
34:40could look a lot lower if a move is not made.
34:43And that worries me. I feel like it's just good process to look at the market and say if he's being ranked
34:49at what his peak could possibly be and it's hard to imagine him being any better, then you probably should make a move.
34:56Also, let's say he goes to the Giants just as an example.
34:59Like Cam Scadaboo is not going to entirely disappear, right?
35:02Like the reason you want to scale Scadaboo is because we think Jonathan Taylor would eat into a lot of that.
35:07Like there will still be other carries to go around, right?
35:11I feel like every time and it's a little different for running backs.
35:14I know this is getting long winded. It's a little different for running backs, Erickson, because it is easier to just step in a new offense.
35:21But I do feel like in-season trades in the NFL very often don't look as good as we expect them to when
35:27you're having to learn a new scheme and go into a new offense.
35:31Again, different story with a running back. But that's why you brought up Derrick Henry as maybe a fit for the Giants
35:37on the tailgate yesterday is because, oh, well, he is really familiar with John Harbaugh and Greg Roman and all that stuff.
35:43So I say all that to say, I think it's a good process.
35:47Even if you still believe in Jonathan Taylor as a top 10 running back for the rest of season, I think you
35:53can find a manager who also views him that way.
35:56Get a lot for him and get a little bit more certainty with whoever you're trading for and maybe even a little
36:02bit more upside depending on where this trade season goes.
36:04What do you think about Jonathan Taylor? I feel like you're getting rid of a lot of risk if you move off
36:10Jonathan Taylor, even if you're just getting him at market value.
36:13It's not a you need to sell low on Jonathan Taylor because clearly you don't need to sell low on Jonathan Taylor
36:20because there's still a lot of belief in that he does get traded and he does go to a good landing spot
36:26and he can be a top six running back for the season.
36:29But to your point, that's all baked into where his rank is.
36:32And that's something that I struggle with when I'm trying to rank Jonathan Taylor in the rest of season rankings because obviously
36:38my rankings are part of the consensus here that when we refer to.
36:42So I am trying to capture how I feel about the player, but also what is the market price going to be on this player?
36:49And I think you're right where it's going to be high because you want to be optimistic that yeah, Jonathan Taylor is going to get out of Indianapolis.
36:57He's going to go somewhere. He's going to get 30 touches per game.
37:00He's going to absolutely smash. And that's why I, again, the Royal we wants to go by Jonathan Taylor at RB6 price tag.
37:06But you're outlining that there's a lot of risk associated with this.
37:10Also, he's not a young buck type running back.
37:12Like he's a running back with a ton of volume and touches on his resume.
37:16And that's something that I even thought about with Taylor entering this season, coming off all the carries that he had last year.
37:23And maybe that's why a team doesn't end up trading a second and a third and a fourth round pick to get
37:29Jonathan Taylor because there's an older running back who has a ton of mileage on his tires.
37:34And why would I trade for Jonathan Taylor when I could get Derek Henry cheaper, right?
37:38So if he doesn't end getting moved, now are you stuck holding the bag with Jonathan Taylor on a team that is heading in the complete wrong direction?
37:46Just traded away one of their best offensive linemen, Quentin Nelson to the Seattle Seahawks.
37:50So I think that this makes a lot of sense.
37:53Is it as simple as you just flip him for one of these other running backs that's kind of in this same
37:59tier where it's like, okay, I'll just take DeAndre Swift, right?
38:02Just don't care. Like I'll just take the Bears running back.
38:05I'll just take Jalen Warren, Bucky Irving, Javante Williams coming off a bad game.
38:09Is it just as simple as like, okay, I'll get 85% of Jonathan Taylor with a running back for running back trade,
38:15but I feel like I'm getting rid of so much risk associated with JT if he does stay on the Colts and this team totally bottoms out.
38:22Or are you looking for, hey, let me move Jonathan Taylor to get Bayshel Tootin and something else?
38:27I was just going to say, I like that, like maybe going down a couple more spots in the rankings, but trying
38:33to get a guy like Tootin plus I think is really a two.
38:37Tootin is so good, dude. If you can get Tootin plus, I'm doing that.
38:41I mean, I think you can get Swift plus.
38:43I think you can get Jalen Warren plus. Like, I do think Jonathan Taylor has the established tracker.
38:48He's been on an RB1 in a season. He was unbelievable even as recently as last year before Daniel Jones got hurt.
38:54Like, I think he has the name record and has been productive this year.
38:58It's not like you're selling low because he's been RB5 on the season.
39:02I think he has the production and the name that you can get Juba Hubbard plus even.
39:06Like, I think if you're looking at pretty much anybody ranked lower than him in the rankings right now, you can probably get that player plus another piece.
39:14Or you could look at a receiver. And I know it's hard because a lot of people have more receivers available than they have running backs.
39:21So sometimes it's hard to move a running back for a receiver.
39:24Could you get Parker Washington plus with Washington coming off of a down game?
39:28I would do that. Could you get dude straight up for like Drake London?
39:32You know, I'm pretty sure I saw a trade where it was Tootin and Jefferson to get Jonathan Taylor because there is
39:38someone I guarantee there's someone in your league that is definitely buying into the hype that John Taylor is going to get traded and get a better situation.
39:46And there's also a chance like this could be a win win, right?
39:50Where he does go to a different team and he can easily be productive.
39:53But when you sold them for RB5 prices, you still got a really strong return in the end.
39:58So I think that the Jonathan Taylor call is really sharp.
40:01And one of the running back I was also considering here was just putting on Saquon Barkley as I just want nothing
40:08to do with this player just because it is so bad.
40:11And and they're the one team that said he's not getting traded.
40:14So there is no escape for Saquon Barkley. There's no emergency exit for Saquon Barkley.
40:18So, yeah, he's another running back. I strongly considered selling.
40:21So just as a frame of reference. Before we get back to the show, we want to take a moment to talk
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41:07Yes, and it looks horrible. So that's why. That I kind of believe.
41:11No offense. I'm taking it. It's just like it's reality, right?
41:14Sometimes you just got to look yourself in the mirror and think I'm not a mustache guy.
41:19You're not a mustache guy. I had one on the show for a few months, a couple summers ago, and I actually
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41:28We'll see if I decide to go in that direction here.
41:31But yes, definitely want to support Movember any way we can.
41:34Erickson, give me a quarterback to either buy or sell.
41:36Going to sell Bryce Young. Panthers quarterback has taken advantage of a lot of good matchups to start the season, but we
41:43have kind of seen things hit the wall a little bit with Carolina's passing attack with some tougher matchups.
41:48And he has one of the toughest schedules rest season for fantasy quarterback.
41:51So that's courtesy of the fantasy football fantasy pros strength of schedule tool on the website, on the app.
41:57So go check that out. That's something that I reference a ton while we prepare for these specific types of shows.
42:02And specifically, it's low lighted by week 16 and 17.
42:05Week 16 at the Pittsburgh Steelers. Gross. Week 17 at home against Seattle.
42:09That's the fantasy football championships. That is a major red flag for all Panthers players, where if you're going into your fantasy
42:15championship with a lot of Panthers on your team, you might be screwed.
42:18So that's just kind of getting ahead of what could potentially be a terrible matchup for them.
42:23That's something I want to pay attention to. So Bryce Young for me is not someone that I view as a locked in weekly starter.
42:30Yes, you can still stream him in some good matchups.
42:33I know he gets to play the Saints a couple times rest of season, but for the most part, it's not been good.
42:39Or the matchups when they've been tougher, it has not been good for Bryce Young.
42:43And something I wanted to point out, too, about how effective he has been this season.
42:48It's been a lot of him making a lot of plays under pressure.
42:51And typically, that's not something that's super sticky week over week.
42:54It's more like quarterbacks, high variance. Sometimes it works in your favor where, oh, you're just playing really well under pressure.
43:00That's great. But when you look at the aggregate of all the quarterbacks under pressure, the most pressure quarterbacks this year, it's
43:06a list of guys that have not played well for the most part.
43:10Because when you're under pressure, it doesn't necessarily mean, oh, yeah, you're going to be really, really good when you're getting pressure
43:16in your face on 50% or more of your dropback.
43:19So the top quarterbacks in terms of pressure rate this season faced, Jalen Hurts, Daniel Jones, Malik Willis, Justin Herbert, Bryce Young, and Drake May.
43:26So yes, some of those guys have rosen above and been productive.
43:29But over time, it's something that you don't necessarily want to bank on being good for the quarterback rest of season.
43:35So I know they're going to get one of their offensive linemen back this week or soon, one of their offensive guards.
43:41But still, I fear for the schedule for Bryce Young.
43:43And the fact that Drake May is on this list, too, actually kind of raised my eyebrows.
43:48And I don't mean to move the conversation to a Drake May potential sell high.
43:52But somebody asked me in Discord today about Brock Purdy or Drake May rest of season.
43:57And it got me thinking a little bit about Drake May versus some of the other elite quarterbacks.
44:02Drake May's dealing with offensive line injuries. Drake May's dealing with a ton of injuries to all of his past catchers.
44:07Hunter Henry got hurt this past week. And Drake May versus all the other quote unquote elite fantasy quarterbacks, he probably has
44:14the worst schedule rest of the way. So that's something I just wanted to highlight as well, talking about quarterbacks to sell.
44:20I think that if you could move Drake May for another elite quarterback, whether it's Brock Purdy, I mean, right now he's
44:26ranked rest of season behind Caleb Williams. I'm taking Caleb Williams 10 out of 10 times.
44:30And I love Drake May, right? But I want as many parts of this Bears offense like you just talked about when we're talking about Kyle Manunga.
44:38So Drake May is another player, especially he has also not had his bye week yet.
44:42That's something that I would also consider when it comes to selling quarterbacks.
44:46I strongly can recommend everybody look at bye weeks pretty much from this point through the rest of the year.
44:51If a guy has not had his bye week and the guy you're selling has or, you know, whatever the scenario is,
44:57that is a real needle mover with so few games left in the fantasy regular season.
45:02There's what, six games left in the fantasy regular season?
45:04A sixth of your games, you're going to get a guaranteed zero from a guy.
45:08That's like, especially at a onesie position like this, which means you're going to need to use a roster spot to get
45:15a backup if you're acquiring somebody like that. That would be in the back of my mind really strongly when it comes to this.
45:21So I think those are two good shots. Do you know where Drake, if you had to get, I don't know if
45:27you looked at the rest of the season ranking, do you know where Drake May is ranked for quarterbacks?
45:32I did look, I think it's like fourth or fifth.
45:35Six. Six, okay. Yeah, so right in that range.
45:38Yeah. Yeah. Let's go to some by seller holds here, Erickson, before we get out of here.
45:42Three running backs for you. Brees Hall, Jonah Coleman, Ollie Gordon.
45:45Brees Hall, obviously, you know, not back yet from injury, but a player and an offense that looks halfway decent, a player we believe in, generally speaking.
45:53Ollie Gordon finally coming off of his first game where he didn't produce for fantasy managers since stepping into the starting lineup.
45:59That might present a real buying opportunity because he's been so good before then.
46:03And I think people were maybe waiting for him to fall off and they maybe want to sell now.
46:08And then Jonah Coleman taking over the Denver backfield in his first game back, kind of seeing what we were all hoping he was going to look like.
46:16He's jumped up significantly. I believe he's up eight or nine spots in the consensus rest of season rankings.
46:21Since last week, he's up at RB22. So again, this isn't a ranking, but these three guys are all ranked very close to each other.
46:28Ollie Gordon, Brees Hall, Jonah Coleman. Who are you buying?
46:31Who are you selling? Who are you holding? I think for me, I would probably want to buy Jonah Coleman.
46:36This goes against what I talked about last week, where I looked at Coleman as a potential sell high.
46:42Now, it was also before RJ Harvey was put on entry reserve.
46:45So it did kind of like change the dynamic a little bit where it went from a three-man backfield to a two-man backfield.
46:51But it just seems like Jonah Coleman is so set up the rest of the way with how he's been used as a receiver out of the backfield.
46:59That's something that Bo Nix constantly does. It's something that they always do in the Broncos offense.
47:04The fact that they kept going back to Coleman in the red zone over and over and over again, even though he
47:10did not convert until very, very towards the end of that game.
47:13J.K. Dobbins just looks like a shell of himself.
47:15Not efficient at all on the ground. A zero in the passing game.
47:19So it seems like the Coleman takeover has kind of started and he's facing the Panthers this week, man.
47:24Like this is just I think this is a layup for him.
47:28So again, I was wrong about him entertaining him as a sell high last week.
47:32And if you held on to him or at least you got a strong return, you should have got a strong return for him.
47:38I mean, he set up really well rest of the rest of the way.
47:42So if there's still a bit of hesitancy with a Coleman manager, there probably isn't.
47:46But the fact that he was a waiver wire guy, sometimes those guys aren't accurately priced.
47:51Maybe there's still an opportunity to buy high on a player like Coleman, but you're definitely holding on to him at least.
47:57So he would be my buy. Ollie Gordapod to hold on to.
48:00Again, he's still the bell cow for the Miami Dolphins.
48:03Again, coming off of his just lackluster game. But in terms of usage, right, it's still him dominating this backfield.
48:08Jalen Wright is doing nothing to eat into his workload.
48:11So he would be my hold. And I guess I guess Brie Hall's like the sell just because I think that he's
48:17probably He's my sell, I'll say, of these guys.
48:20I mean, I think that he's ranked the highest because rankers like myself are trying to at least consider the fact that
48:26he could still be the number one running back on their team.
48:29And if you look at the way the Jets have operated when guys have come back from injuries, it's so funny, right?
48:35So Saquon Barkley breaks out. They immediately go back to Mason Taylor.
48:39Omar Cooper breaks out. They immediately go back to Adonai Mitchell.
48:42What do you think is going to happen when Brie Saul comes back?
48:45They're going to go right back to Brie Saul and not Braylon Allen.
48:49That being said, this one seems like the toughest sell because those are receivers and tight ends.
48:53So it's a little bit more fringe and Braylon Allen has been a player that this staff has been high on for seemingly year after year.
49:01So I think this is probably the toughest one to sell to the players and the coaching staff that, yeah, no, Brie
49:07Saul's got to be the number one running back here when Braylon Allen looks like mini Derrick Henry, even though they both weigh 240 pounds.
49:14So I think Hall right now where he's ranked rest of the season, I know he's ranked RB 18 for me, still
49:20top 20 price tag you can get for him.
49:22And I mean, do you just trade him straight up for Braylon Allen plus and just kind of see how things shake out?
49:29I'm just like, like, I know that what you just highlighted about the Jets not doing this, but I was like, Braylon Allen has been so fantastic.
49:36Dude, but they're the Jets, man. They always do.
49:38I know. But man, like, it's like, obviously the last two weeks are particularly great against the Raiders and Dolphins.
49:44That's easy matchups. But he's been averaging like six and a half yards per carry the last two weeks, like 120 yards per game, getting the volume.
49:51Even the three weeks before that, he was averaging like 4.6 or something yards per carry on big volume.
49:57Like, he's just been so good that how do you put that toothpaste back in the bottle?
50:01I don't know. Even if it's a... Dude, they've been putting all the toothpaste back.
50:06It's crazy. Dude, Aaron Glenn has a bottle of all his reused toothpaste.
50:09Yes. He's put it back all in the bottle, dude.
50:12He is my sell, though, for that reason. And then I think Ali's probably my buy, actually, because he's been so productive
50:18and so reliable that one down week, I'm not going to...
50:21And by the way, if he had gotten into the end zone in this game, it would have looked just fine.
50:27So I think he's still really consistent in terms of the volume and what I expect to be the production going forward.
50:33So I want to buy him if this does represent an opportunity.
50:36Maybe it doesn't, but if it does represent an opportunity, if somebody's saying, hey, I don't think he's that good anyway.
50:42He finally had a down week. Let's just get out of this.
50:45That's what I would do. Coleman, to me, is the hold.
50:48I think there's a natural instinct to say, hey, we've got him off waivers.
50:52The Broncos are tough to predict. He's coming off a good game.
50:55Just sell him high while you can. Don't do that.
50:58I would hold him. I think you have the starting running back for a really good team going forward in Jonah Coleman.
51:04The other buy-sell or hold trio I have here...
51:07Oh, sorry. Did you want to... Oh, sorry. I just wanted to read off where they were ranked rest of the season for reference.
51:13So it's... So yeah, they're... Brees Hall's 20... Or Brees Hall's 21.
51:17Jonah Coleman is 22. And Ollie Gordon is 18.
51:19So he's actually the highest. Yeah. Buy-sell or hold?
51:22Derek Henry, DeAndre Swift, Bucky Irving. A little higher in the rankings for this one.
51:26Derek Henry, DeAndre Swift, Bucky Irving. These guys are all ranked between 11 and 14 in the consensus rest of season rankings.
51:32I will buy Bucky Irving. I love the Buccaneers schedule rest of season.
51:36Really, really positive for their ground game to continue to be really, really effective.
51:39So he'd be my buy even as a buy high.
51:42Swift would probably be my hold. Coming off three touchdowns.
51:45I get that common on guys going to come back and maybe eat into his workload a little bit.
51:50But I think that both guys can still be productive.
51:53And I guess Derek Henry's the sell. I know you mentioned him as a sell two weeks ago.
51:58But I don't think that anything has really changed where – I don't know.
52:02I guess I don't even really feel like Derek Henry could really burn me.
52:06Actually, I probably shouldn't say that because he's the king of making – So I will say – Danseanalysts burn.
52:11I will say I actually came into this show preparing to call him my sell.
52:15I actually think I'm going to say Swift is my sell and Henry is the hold.
52:20And it's not because I like Henry better than Swift.
52:22Again, these are not rankings. This is assessing market value.
52:25I think everybody is so unanimously against the Ravens moving forward without Lamar that I think you're not – You're just –
52:31I think there is actually a gap between what you would get back for DeAndre Swift versus Derek Henry.
52:37And I think that gap is wider than the gap in the rankings.
52:40Again, Swift is ranked higher for me and so is Bucky than Derek Henry.
52:44But I think – Derek Henry is RB14 in the updated consensus rest of season rankings.
52:48I don't even think that's – I think the market value on him is aging running back hasn't looked good with these backup quarterbacks.
52:55Now you drop down from not only Lamar but Tyler Huntley.
52:58Now you could drop down to Joe Fagnano or whoever else they pick up.
53:02I think his value is absolutely cratered. And therefore, I would rather hold him and say he's the king.
53:07He's a hall of famer. He is one of the best running backs ever.
53:11Maybe he can overcome this because he's done it before with the Titans with bad situations rather than sell as low as
53:17I think you would have to be selling on him right now.
53:20So I think he is actually going to be my hold.
53:23Swift is my sell with the idea of Mononga coming back in a couple weeks and then Bucky the bye.
53:29Yeah, doesn't the process always say, okay, running back, primetime game, three touchdowns.
53:33Got to sell high. Yes. When they average under three yards per carry, right?
53:36That is exactly always the process to fall and get it with Seattle.
53:40So actually, you've convinced me. I think that that is the sharp play because I see a scenario where Derrick Henry gets
53:4630 carries on Thursday night against the Jaguars defense, who I know we look at as this elite.
53:51The Devon Hamilton injury is massive. Totally. He was arguably the best defensive tackle stopping the run in the NFL.
53:57So I know that he's not a household name by any means, but he was a significant piece of why that run
54:03defense has been so good and elite over the last two seasons.
54:06And the fact that the Ravens are playing at home, Derrick Henry is going to get every single opportunity that he can handle.
54:12So if you want to sell high on Derrick Henry or you want to sell him, I think you've got to wait
54:18at least one more week because I think that he's just going to have probably a much better game than most people
54:24would anticipate with the Jaguars defense looking on paper.
54:27Elite can't run on them when Henry, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, Warren, but is that not going to be the game plans?
54:34Like, dude, like third string quarterback, we're just going to run.
54:37It has to be. Piss out of the ball here.
54:40Like, wow, cat, do whatever it takes. And that's how they would come away with an upset or at least try to
54:46win a banged up third string quarterback, by the way.
54:48Like, Faniato is not even guaranteed to play in this game.
54:52Do they sign another quarterback? Keaton Slovis has been signed to the practice squad.
54:55They're working out Adrian Martinez. Those are the last two that I saw.
54:59Okay. Austin Reed. Yeah. So, I mean, it's rough.
55:01Dude, is Ryan Tannehill not available? I can't talk about this.
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