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Week 9 Fantasy Football WR Rankings: Zay Flowers, Drake London, Rashee Rice & More (Ep. 2317)

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43 min
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Nov 5, 2026
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Thu, November 5, 2026
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Jameson WilliamsAntonio WilliamsDrake LondonNico CollinsRashee RiceZay FlowersCaleb DouglasDemario DouglasJaylen WaddleKeenan AllenMalik WillisMichael WilsonStefon DiggsTerry McLaurin
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Antonio Williams

PositiveBreakout38:42

Brandon Ayuk is riding the Antonio Williams hype train as his deep play this week. Williams led the Washington Commanders in targets last week and Ayuk believes he might be the best receiver on the team, even better than Stefan Diggs. Last week he had 5 catches for 54 yards (Diggs got the TD, so Williams didn't crack the top 36). Williams ran the most routes for the Commanders in every single game that Terry McLaurin either missed entirely or missed most of. On the year, Williams has run just one fewer route than Stefan Diggs and has more receiving arts, leading the Commanders in receiving arts this season. This week against a Rams secondary that's a little banged up (Trent McDuffie dealing with an injury, and their other starting cornerback also dealing with an injury), Ayuk expects Williams' breakout game to happen sooner rather than later.

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PositiveRole39:23

Williams has run just one fewer route than Stefan Diggs this season and leads the Commanders in receiving arts; Brandon Ayuk continues to ride the Antonio Williams hype train, particularly in games where Terry McLaurin has missed entirely or most of the action.

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Caleb Douglas

PositiveProjection32:00

Brandon Ayuk is bullish on Caleb Douglas as a top-24 wide receiver play this week against Detroit. Douglas is the best wide receiver on the Miami Dolphins and their number one guy. Last week against the Patriots, he caught 4 of 6 official targets for 43 yards, but had 8 true targets when including targets erased by penalties, good for a 23% target share on 86% of snaps. This is his second game back from injury and he's locked and loaded as the team's number one alpha. Given that Detroit's defense continues to lose piece after piece and Miami is expected to have a negative game script, Douglas could flirt with double-digit targets. He's been really efficient with the targets he's gotten so far this season, averaging 2.2 yards per route run (25th among all WRs with 100+ routes run).

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Demario Douglas

NegativeRole37:07

Brandon Ayuk notes that DeMario Douglas' role in the Patriots offense doesn't really change week to week. Last week he ran fewer routes than Chisholm and played fewer snaps than Chisholm and Kyle Williams. He's one of these players that teams don't look to take away in any way, shape, or form. Even with Dobbs and AJ Brown hurt and not playing, Chisholm had more targets than Douglas did last week, and Kyle Williams had the big play. Douglas had a couple of big plays as well. Ayuk thinks low-end fantasy wide receiver three is the perfect spot for Douglas, especially because the Packers defense is underrated and has been good the last couple of games. Matt Collins is coming off IR this week, which could further limit Douglas' opportunities.

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Drake London

PositiveMatchup2:27

Five-star graded matchup against Cincinnati Bengals; Falcons expected to bounce back after abysmal Week 8 weather game and return to aggressive passing attack. Erickson ranks him WR6 based on belief that Michael Penix and offense will 'sling the crap out of it' in normal conditions without torrential downpours. Bengals defense just got eviscerated by Cam Ward despite missing Carnell Tate.

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PositiveUsage4:00

Penix-to-London connection has deteriorated recently; over last three games, London averaging 5.2 yards per target with 46% catch rate. Even excluding Week 8 rain game, under 7 yards per target last two games. Fitzmaurice concerned about potential coverage from DJ Turner, one of best lockdown cornerbacks in game.

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Jameson Williams

PositiveProjection18:00

Five touchdowns in last three games; averaging 77.5 receiving yards over last four games. WR9 in half-point PPR scoring since Week 5. Earlier season underachievement has reversed; usage was good and now putting up numbers to match. Fitzmaurice ranks him WR17 based on strong recent production.

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NegativeMatchup19:00

Facing Miami Dolphins secondary with no-name guys who can be beaten over the top—Williams' bread and butter. Drake Maye threw bombs to Kyle Williams against this defense last week. Erickson aligns with ECR at WR20 because doesn't want to fade Williams against Dolphins, though notes potential for Sam Laporta to also benefit since Dolphins weak against tight ends.

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PositiveMatchup19:54

Brandon Ayuk notes that Jamison Williams' bread and butter is beating defenses over the top, and the Dolphins secondary has a bunch of no-name guys who can be beat vertically. However, Ayuk tempers enthusiasm because Sam Laporta could also have a big game against Miami's poor tight end defense; when Laporta was the number two pass catcher early in the season, it reduced Williams' production. Laporta has stepped back the last couple of games, benefiting Williams, but if Laporta has a bigger game this week, it could take a little bit off the top from Jamo.

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Jaylen Waddle

NegativeRole27:35

Brandon Ayuk notes that Jalen Waddle's role in the Denver offense has not changed—he's still getting 6-7 targets per game with mediocre yardage totals. Last week he got a touchdown and a two-point conversion, which is encouraging that Denver is using him in the red zone, but the ceiling has not grown. Bo Nix is not good passing the ball downfield, so the fit with Waddle has not been there. Waddle has a path to relevance in the good Carolina matchup, but he remains in wide receiver three territory. Fitzy adds that they have been reduced to celebrating a three-catch, 39-yard, one-TD, two-point conversion performance from Waddle, and they no longer have expectations of hundred-yard games for him. The Panthers are banged up at cornerback (possibly without JC Horn, Mike Jackson, and Caleb Evans), so Waddle could be playable in a pinch as a third receiver or flex, but expectations are low.

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Keenan Allen

PositiveProjection35:07

Fitzy is comfortable starting Keenan Allen this week against the Dallas Cowboys, describing him as a high-floor, low-ceiling play. In four of his last five games, Allen has had at least seven targets and five catches, averaging just nine yards per catch this season. Those short passes to Allen are one of the few ways the Colts can move the ball these days. The Cowboys' defense might be capable of making 34-year-old Keenan Allen look like 25-year-old Keenan Allen. Additionally, the Colts might not have Jonathan Taylor or Josh Downs by this weekend since they're both on the trading block, which could increase Allen's role. Fitzy says he's playable this week with a sturdy floor, though the ceiling is limited.

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Malik Willis

NegativeProjection33:00

Fitzy notes that while Malik Willis has shown some signs of life in his last two games, going over 200 passing yards with two touchdown passes in each, this is a recent development. Before that, Willis had thrown only two touchdown passes in five games, and for the season he's averaging just 180 passing yards per game. This creates an oxygen-starved environment for Miami's pass catchers. However, Erickson points out that three of Willis's four best passing games have come with Caleb Douglas in the lineup, suggesting Douglas makes a big impact on the passing game and that Willis struggled passing-wise in the middle portion of the season when Douglas wasn't playing.

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Michael Wilson

NegativeMatchup19:58

Brandon Ayuk is very concerned about Michael Wilson's matchup against Seattle this week. Wilson had 8 catches for 111 yards and a TD on 15 targets last week against Dallas, but that came when Gardner Minshew came in against a terrible defense with no preparation. Wilson is averaging only 6.3 yards per target and 1.57 yards per route run this season—mediocre numbers. Against Seattle, Ayuk expects the Steelers-inspired Seahawks defense to be well-prepared and will snuff out Minshew like a candle. Wilson's last three games against Seattle: 2 catches for 18 yards, 4 catches for 34 yards, 3 catches for 15 yards. Additionally, Wilson is playing with two broken ribs, which is a concern against a fierce physical defense like Seattle; he could take one hit and get knocked out of the game. Ayuk calls this a brutal spot and says Wilson is a bust this week.

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Nico Collins

PositiveUsage5:48

Usage has shifted in Texans offense since acquisition of additional receivers; now running more clear-out routes. Last game posted season-low 8.8 air yards per target and did not log single downfield catch for first time all season. Running vertical routes at season-high 47.8% but receiving minimal downfield opportunities. Target numbers have not increased week-over-week all season; catch totals declining every week since return in Week 4.

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NegativeRole6:03

Role diminished as CJ Stroud spreads wealth across offense; averaging 6.3 targets per game since hamstring return in Week 5 with max of 8 targets in any game. Three games without touchdown. Marvin Harrison Jr. moving to Z role hurts Collins, who now must run all downfield routes, inviting boom-bust profile. Chargers matchup offers nothing special to suggest bounce-back spot.

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Rashee Rice

PositiveUsage8:30

Last two full games: 17 targets, 14 catches, 141 receiving yards. Best receiver on Chiefs and not particularly close. Productive return from hamstring injury last week despite snap count (57% snaps, 63% drop backs); finished with 8 true targets, 7 catches, 53 yards, and touchdown (second TD called back on questionable false start). Erickson ranks him WR16 as solid option against Jets.

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PositiveProjection10:00

Fitzmaurice sticking to preseason priors that Rice has diminished role in Kansas City offense with Kenneth Walker addition; role has played out as expected. Last year saw double-digit targets in 4 of 8 games; has not had double-digit target game this season. Playing lesser role than previous years when healthy, though still WR2 for Fitzmaurice, not close to WR1 status.

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Stefon Diggs

NegativeUsage39:23

Diggs has run one more route than Antonio Williams this season; mentioned in context of Williams' elevated role when Terry McLaurin misses games.

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Terry McLaurin

NegativeInjury39:23

McLaurin has missed entire games or most of games this season; his absences have elevated Antonio Williams' role in the Commanders offense.

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Zay Flowers

NegativeMatchup14:00

Erickson ranks him WR26 against Jaguars; concerned about game plan focusing on Derek Henry carries rather than scheme touches for Flowers. Defense will put maximum attention on Flowers as number-one receiver, and if Declan Doyle can only do one thing, likely to trust Henry and run ball rather than design plays for Flowers. Tough sledding despite talent.

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PositiveUsage15:30

Fitzmaurice ranks him WR20; expects Derek Henry and Flowers to be targets on 90% of plays but with poor efficiency. Average depth of target likely 3 yards—bubble screens and quick hitches rather than downfield weapon role he had with Lamar earlier season. Quarterback situation uncertain with Joe Flacco banged up; Keaton Slovis (ex-USC, Packers practice squad) may start. Investors who thought they struck gold now seeing collapse.

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Episode Transcript

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0:00This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. What's up friends and welcome to Fantasy Pros.
0:04This is the Week 9 Wide Receiver Ranks. I'm Chris Welsh, that's Pat Fitzmaurice and Andrew Erickson.
0:09We've got 36 wide receivers we're going to be going through.
0:13Those are your big starters. Some other plays in between.
0:16Where are the big rank differences? Those are the things that we're going to be covering in this episode.
0:21Pretty much covering everything with Brandon Ayuk. Because guys, just as a little aside, we're not going to be ranking Brandon Ayuk at any point.
0:29Regardless of him getting right and reporting Fitzy. The most ridiculous, stupid news.
0:32I think Erickson was like, is this so interesting that he decided to show up right before the trade deadline?
0:38Hmm, that's so interesting that he got his representation with Ken Rosenthal.
0:42But no ranking. And we don't need to see any questions about Brandon Ayuk.
0:46Regardless if he does not get released and shows up on Friday Fitzy, there's no questions around him.
0:51He's going to show up at the team facility, go to open that front door, pull on it.
0:57Yeah, that meme where they're like the one from Hard Knocks where he can't unlock it.
1:01Jamal Adams. Was that Jamal Adams? It was Jamal Adams.
1:04Yeah, he went in and he's like, dude, this doesn't work anymore.
1:08Totally underused memes. I don't know. That was just like the weird, just the goofy, weird wide receiver news is out there.
1:14And I suspect there's going to be like a person or two that's like, should I stash?
1:19Should I do this? Isn't like the stash episode.
1:22This is the weekly ranks episode. But I just think like all the answers are no.
1:27Like I think those are the easy answers to whatever your Brandon Ayuk question is like, no, that's how we'll settle that.
1:33But we do have a bunch of very relevant wide receivers.
1:36We're going to be talking about ones, twos and threes names and where they're ranked out this week for week nine low by week.
1:43So maybe a few more names that are floating out there.
1:47If you guys would like to follow along with us, go to fantasypros.com slash NFL slash rankings.
1:52And you can see what we're referencing today. You can also switch it to standard PPR.
1:56You can look at the flex ranks dynasty, whatever it is.
2:00We got you covered with all of our ranks.
2:02And just know that the ranks will kind of alter a little bit as more experts go out there and submit their rank.
2:09So this is a time capsule. We are talking to you about the ranks when, as we do this show, but you
2:15might see some changes, maybe in ways that we're talking about being higher or lower.
2:20So let's jump into it and let's look at the big board wide receiver ones for the week.
2:25We've got JSN with the top spot against Cardinals Puka Nacua at number two, CD lamb, Jamar Chase, Amon-Ra St.
2:31Brown and T Higgins as your top six. Man, I don't remember the last time I saw two wide receivers on the
2:38same team be top six, but I know it's probably been these two.
2:41Coming in at seven is Malik Nabors, Chris Alave, Drake London, Christian Watson at 10, Nico Collins and Matthew Golden.
2:47Let's talk about our first one is Drake London.
2:50Abysmal performance by the Falcons and the weather. They did try to throw the ball, I suppose.
2:55But going up against the Cincinnati Bengals, which has been delightful.
2:58It's a five star graded matchup here. He is ECR nine.
3:01Fitzy, you're actually slightly lower, but Erickson, you are higher.
3:04You've got him as a top six wide receiver.
3:07So Erickson, you believe that Penix and team will be right without this crazy big weather game.
3:12And they're I mean, they defied the odds and just said, screw it.
3:16Yeah, this weather sucks. We're going to keep trying to throw it didn't work.
3:20So presumably in a normal matchup with the Bengals where you can do this, you think they're going to get back to slinging the crap out of it.
3:28And Drake London is going to be a great option this week.
3:32Yep. Basically, did you steal the notes from my show sheet?
3:35Did you have you sling the crap out of it?
3:38Was that on your note? Exactly how I feel.
3:41Just kind of right off that game last week where it was the rain they had to throw because they were behind.
3:47And it was an absolute disaster for Michael Penix, who looked like he'd never played in bad weather before, despite the fact
3:54that he went to Washington, which was also very, very weird.
3:57So I think as long as there's no torrential downpours in Madrid, Spain, where this game is going to be played, I
4:03think Michael Penix and company can easily take care of this Bengals defense that just got eviscerated by Cam Ward, who didn't
4:10have Carnell Tate, his number one wide receiver. So I know that maybe there'll be some concerns about Drake London against DJ Turner.
4:16Well, he's also hurt. So considered day to day.
4:19So he's not even a lock to play in this game.
4:22If he doesn't play like Drake London back and tied the top six, which is why I have him at wide receiver six.
4:29Okay. So all in again, these are wide receiver ones.
4:32We're kind of locked in regardless of the point.
4:35But, you know, if you're making tough decisions, Fitzy, you've got him at 10.
4:39So it's one spot lower. It's a wide receiver one relative confidence that this team is going to bounce back after that really weird week eight.
4:47Yeah. So I've got him wide receiver 10. I'm starting him no matter what.
4:51But I am a little worried about the matchup with sorry, Harrison, who did we just do?
4:56I'm blanking. GJ Turner. Thank you. I had DJ Moore stuck in my head and couldn't get it out.
5:01So that and the fact that just the Pennix to London connection has not really been clicking in recent weeks.
5:07So over his last three games, London is averaging 5.2 yards per target and has caught 46% of his targets.
5:13And even if we take out the rain game last week, he's still been under seven yards per target his last two games.
5:20So things just not totally clicking between Pennix and London lately and the possibility DJ Turner, who's one of the best lockdown
5:26quarterbacks in the game, might see a lot of face time with London this week.
5:31You guys have an interesting agreement on a wide receiver that you do not believe is a wide receiver one.
5:37Nico Collins is 11 this week going up against the Chargers.
5:40According to ECR, you guys both have him lower.
5:42It's not in a range where I don't think either one of you are being like, hey, you don't start.
5:48I mean, if you have him at 13, like how are you not starting 13 wide receivers?
5:53But the point is, is you just have him slightly lower than ECR, which is push, pushed him from a tier that's you've got him at 13 Erickson.
6:02You've got him at 15. Fitzy, why don't you jump in?
6:05What's pushing Nico Collins down slightly for you? Just that Nico used to be sort of hyper targeted in this offense.
6:11And now it seems like CJ Stroud has sort of gone into Drake may mode where he's just throwing to the open guy and it's not always Nico.
6:19So since he came back from his hamstring injury in week five, Nico's average 6.3 targets a game and has not had
6:26more than eight targets in any of those four games.
6:29And now he's gone three games without a touchdown.
6:31Stroud just kind of spreads it around now. All right.
6:34Going over to you, Erickson wide receiver 15. So even a little bit lower, not not startable, but and you were shaking
6:41your head kind of on the like hyper targeted disappearing.
6:44Is that the big thing that's kind of pushing you away, slightly away from Nico?
6:48His usage has changed in the Texans offense since they acquired all these other players.
6:53So he's running a lot more of like the clear out route.
6:56So the last time we saw them play Collins ran a vertical route at a season high 47.8% of his routes run.
7:03But so posted a season low 8.8 yards, air yards per target, did not log a single downfield catch for the first time all season.
7:10So we're all happy that Marvin Harrison Jr. is no longer playing the X role.
7:14He's now in the Z, which is much better for his usage.
7:18But that's conversely hurting Nico Collins, because now he has to be the one that's running all the downfield routes, which is
7:24going to obviously invite a little bit more of a boomer bus type of profile, which has been the case with Nico
7:31Collins over the last couple of games. His target numbers have not increased week over week a single time this season.
7:37Catch totals have gone down every single week since his return back in week four.
7:41So he had those two blow up games against Buffalo and Dallas, who are two defenses that we were attacking.
7:47And a lot of teams have been attacking for wide receivers, but every other matchup, it's really been disappointment for Nico Collins
7:54as CJ Stroud kind of spreads the wealth here.
7:56So in this match against the Chargers and the Chargers defense hasn't really been their problem.
8:01They're kind of just like middle of the road across the board.
8:05Most defensive metrics because just Herbert's a turnover machine, which is why the team has been so bad.
8:10Because the offense has been so bad. So there's also nothing about the matchup to me that suggests, oh, like this is
8:16such a bounce back spot for Nico to be a top 10 top five guy.
8:21Now he's always live to rip off one of these big runs after the catch.
8:25So he's going to still be in your lineup, but I don't think he's locked and loaded like top 12 guy, which obviously Fitz agrees with.
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10:27kind of can't blame at this point. Mike Evans comes in at 14.
10:31Parker Washington at 15. Luther Burden, George Pickens, Rasheed Rice.
10:34Our bottom half is a Flowers down at 19.
10:37Jamison Williams, Tedaro McMillan, Garrett Wilson, Jalen Coker, and Stefan Diggs.
10:40A couple things to jump in in here. Rasheed Rice, wide receiver 18 on the list going up against the Jets.
10:46You guys have got a split. We have a high and we've got a low.
10:50The high and low still exist as a wide receiver too, but it's a decent flip here.
10:55Erickson, you've got him at 16. You're the high guy.
10:58Fitzy, you've got him at 23 though. You're the low guy.
11:02Erickson, why don't you talk about the high run of Rasheed Rice here for you?
11:06Last two full games he's played. He has 17 targets, 14 catches and 141 receiving yards.
11:11He's not the best receiver in the league, but he's the best receiver on the Chiefs.
11:15And I don't think it's particularly close. So against the New York Jets, I think this is a good matchup for Rasheed Rice.
11:22The fact that he was able to come back from his hamstring injury last week and be very productive despite being on a snap count.
11:30He only paid 57% of the snaps ran around on 63% of the drop backs still finished with eight true targets, seven
11:36catch for 53 yards and a touchdown. He actually had two touchdowns, but it was called back because of a questionable false
11:43start penalty by Kansas City Chiefs that ended up costing them that game against the Denver Broncos, which as a Denver Broncos
11:49money line holder, I was not necessarily upset with, but as a Rashi Rice investor was obviously upset that the second touchdown did not count.
11:56So I just think that he's kind of in this wide receiver 16 range.
12:01And I think this is where he should be.
12:03Fitzy, you don't necessarily agree. You got him at 23.
12:06You got him outside of a top 20 wide receiver.
12:09I'd say 23 starts to kind of toe the line of like, is there spots where like 10 team leagues and stuff like that could start sitting him?
12:17You seem to have some more worries. You didn't quite push him out.
12:21But talk to us about why you push Rasheed Rice down to 23.
12:25Yeah, maybe in small leagues, you might be more of a borderline guy.
12:29And I've been accused in the past, rightly of sticking to my priors too long.
12:33And I'm kind of sticking to my priors here on Rasheed Rice.
12:37My belief in the offseason was that Rasheed Rice was going to have a diminished role in the Kansas City offense this
12:43season with the addition of Kenneth Walker. And that's kind of how it's played out.
12:48Like last year, Rice saw double digit targets in four of his eight games.
12:52He has not had a game with double digit targets this season.
12:55I just think he's playing a lesser role. Still a wide receiver two for me, but not close to wide receiver one
13:02status like he was so many times the last couple of years whenever he was healthy.
13:06All right. I want to, this wasn't originally in the sheet, but I want to talk about this one.
13:12And this is also a plug. If you guys don't listen to the betting pro show, you, the prop show, you should.
13:19Erickson just had the greatest week you could have.
13:21He, Jial, he look at his blush and he's like, no, don't.
13:25You know, five and a week nailed every single prop and hit a touchdown.
13:29We joke because I had the best week, the week prior of, of a single one of our days.
13:34Erickson blew that out of the water. Why am I mentioning that just to glaze Erickson?
13:39Well, Erickson also previous weeks had said he put the worst bet that's ever existed.
13:44We'll hold my beer because I put a bet out of Zay flowers over receiving yards and he didn't have a catch.
13:50So worst bet of all to Erickson's the greatest.
13:53I'm the worst. Uh, cue the happy Gilmore meme in there.
13:56The reason I'm bringing this all up is I want to talk to you guys about Zay flowers for a second.
14:02I don't know where you have him. I don't actually see the ECR in here cause we didn't originally have him, but he is 19 on this list.
14:10He's moved down. He's going up against the Jaguars.
14:13We talked about the Derek Henry stuff in here.
14:16Where are you guys at on Zay flowers? And should he be more of a concern?
14:20Uh, Erickson, why don't you kick it off since you're the greatest, uh, gambler better.
14:25And I do the worst picks of Zay flowers.
14:27And when he gets no catches, where do you have Zay flowers?
14:31And should we be more concerned about his play this week?
14:34I have him at wide receiver 26. So baby, I receiver 20 is pretty aggressive.
14:39I don't know where fits has him, but I don't know how you can feel good about Zay flowers in any capacity.
14:45We talked about Derek Henry on the running back show and how we feel lukewarm about him just because game plan should
14:52be just load this guy up with as many carries as humanly possible.
14:55But that doesn't help Zay flowers, right? The defense knows who the number one receiver is going to be.
15:01And I know we talk about this every single week where yeah, just get Zay flowers in space.
15:06It's that easy. There's like a make plays out to the catch, but Declan Doyle knows that.
15:11And so does the defense. So I'm assuming that they're going to put all the attention that they can on Zay flowers and then also on Derek Henry.
15:20So if Declan Doyle can only do one thing, what do you guys think he would do?
15:25Would it be just trust in Derek Henry and just run the crap out of the ball or no, we're going to
15:31use our quarterback and we got to design all these scheme touches for Zay flowers and hope that he can just break one.
15:38I think I more leaning towards it being a Derek Henry type of game plan no matter what.
15:43So for me, that's why I'm just lower ends.
15:46They flowers can I love the talent, but it's it's just tough sledding man.
15:5026 is the definite is the definition of guys that are not no brain starters anymore.
15:55And I think that's important to mention obviously 12 team leagues with like three wide receivers and stuff.
16:00You're probably not going to be able to get too cute with it, but there's some major questions.
16:05Now Fitzy, you drop your rank. Where do you have him?
16:08He is easy. He is easy. Again is 19 on this list.
16:12Erickson says 26. What say you? I've got him at 20 and I am of the belief that whatever Declan Doyle is drawing up this week.
16:20I've got to imagine that Derek Henry and Zay flowers are going to be the targets on basically 90% of those plays.
16:26And it's not going to be pretty because the average depth of target is probably going to be like three yards for Zay flowers.
16:33It's going to be bubble screens and quick hitches and just like the kind of stuff we did not want to see
16:40him doing when he was being used as this downfield weapon when he was playing with Lamar earlier this season.
16:46But man, those targets coming from Joe Fagnano or he's banged up.
16:49And if it's not Joe Fagnano, I think it's going to be Keaton Slovis who just got signed off the Packers practice
16:56squad who back in the day was the quarterback for the USC Trojans before a guy named Caleb Williams showed up in LA.
17:02So, man, it's not pretty. I feel for these a flowers investors, including myself, who looking like they had struck gold with him.
17:09And now, man, it's all just crumbled. I forgot to mention this.
17:13I think I mentioned this on the the waiver show because Sealy was there.
17:17Sealy runs the flex leagues. I mentioned in the flex leagues.
17:20I had Lamar Jackson and I went against Joe Burrow.
17:23So that was a fifty nine point swing. I had zero points from Lamar Jackson and Burrow.
17:28Here's what I forgot to mention. I also had Zay flowers in that league and I got a zero.
17:34I only lost by 20 points, too, but I got zero from Zay flowers zero from Lamar Jackson.
17:39It hurts. Are you at all considering that maybe you need to move Zay flowers down a little bit more or are
17:45you just going to plug your nose, close your eyes and he's just a low and wide receiver, too?
17:51So the guys I've got behind him right now are like Tedderone McMillan against Denver.
17:55Lad McConkie. Rishi, right? Maybe I should move him behind like McMillan and Rishi Rice, but he's not going to go down
18:02that far, honestly, because I've got issues with pretty much everyone behind him.
18:06Fair enough. Final one in this range about Jamison Williams.
18:09He comes in at ECR 20 Miami graded out.
18:11Not as great matchup, but we'll see about that.
18:14Erickson, you got him at 23. You're the low man fits.
18:17You got him at 17. You're the high man.
18:20So ECR splits the uprights on you guys. Not a question for you, Fitzy.
18:24You are Jamison Williams over Zay flowers, though, when you have Jamo at 17.
18:28Oh, yeah. And earlier this season, Jamo was grossly underachieving, but he was borderline wide receiver one in terms of expected fans.
18:35He got a lot of fantasy points. The usage was really good, and it seemed like only a matter of time before he started putting up numbers.
18:42Well, he's putting up numbers. Five touchdowns in Jamo's last three games, and Jamison Williams is averaging 77.5 receiving yards over those last four games.
18:50Wide receiver nine in half point PPR scoring since week five.
18:53By the way, shout out to Jamo for our Jamo at Fantasy Pros.
18:57I was thinking how many Fantasy Pros employees do we have that have NFL nicknames?
19:01Because technically Fitzy, Hall of Famer, not a current NFL player, but you got Fitzgerald.
19:06That's a legitimate nickname. We got the great Jamo.
19:08Do we have any others? We'll have to think about that.
19:12Nothing that anybody on this show cares about, but I was like, oh, we've got a J.
19:17How many Jamos have you ever known? I know two Jamos in my life.
19:21The one that I work with, and then the one that plays for the Lions.
19:25So shout out to Jamo and Fitzy and all you NFL nickname players.
19:29Erickson, Jamison Williams, you are not quite as excited.
19:32You pushed him down to 20. All right, never mind.
19:35You're not. Oh, did you just change that on me?
19:38I had an upgrade in the sheet. Yeah. All right, you.
19:41You tricky. I'm just trying to be transparent that he's, I'm right in line with ECR because I don't, I'm not, I
19:47don't want to fade Jamo when he's facing the Miami Dolphins.
19:50Like that's stupid. So I don't want to be stupid on the show.
19:54Try to be smart as I can be. So yeah, Jamison Williams.
19:58We saw last week, Drake may throwing bombs to Kyle Williams against this defense.
20:02Their secondary still has a bunch of no name guys.
20:05They can be beat over the top. That's obviously Jamison Williams bread and butter.
20:09I guess the only reason I'm not as high on as fits.
20:13I do think that this could also be a Sam Laporta game because the Dolphins have also been really, really bad against tight ends.
20:20And that's when you saw the biggest discrepancy in Jamison Williams production early on in the season when Sam Laporta was kind
20:26of being the number two pass catcher in the offense.
20:29So Laporta is obviously taking a step back the last couple of games.
20:33Jamison Williams has benefit because of that. So if Laporta ends up having a bigger game, maybe that just takes a little bit off the top from Jamo.
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22:44Give today at foldsofhonor.org. All right. Wide receiver threes, 25 through 36.
22:47We've got Michael Wilson coming in at 25. DJ Moore and Jalen Waddell at 27.
22:52Ladd McConkie at 28. Denzel Boston and Casey Concepcion at 29 and 30.
22:56Back half is Trey Tucker, Caleb Douglas, DeMario Douglas, Keenan Allen, Malik Washington, and Devon Vele.
23:00Michael Washington, he comes in at 25. You guys are both slightly lower.
23:04Erickson at 26. Fitzy, you're at 29. Fitzy, pushing him down quite a bit.
23:08I'm going to imagine this is probably more about matchup.
23:11I don't got that Gardner Minshew relatively efficient and just feels and looks better than Jacoby Brissett, but it's just not a good matchup whatsoever.
23:19So he's almost outside your top 30 for Michael Wilson fits.
23:22Yeah. So, um, Michael Wilson did have eight catches for 111 yards and a touchdown on 15 targets last week against the Cowboys in the grand scheme.
23:30Looks like he had a really good game. He was having a pretty bad game until Gardner Minshew came in and sort of resuscitated him.
23:37Um, and of course it came against a terrible Dallas defense with, um, Minshew throwing a nearly every down to bring the Cardinals back from big deficit.
23:45So yeah, Wilson is getting a lot of targets, but he's averaging 6.3 yards per target this season, 1.5, 70 yards per route run, mediocre numbers.
23:53Um, he's facing the Seahawks this week, which is in absolute skull and crossbones matchup.
23:57And I think the Steelers are going to be breathing fire.
24:00We talked about the fire breathing dragon. Uh, yeah, they are going to be Grendel in this matchup because I think they're
24:07going to be mad about what the Bears offense did to them last week.
24:11And man, I don't trust Gardner Minshew to do it again.
24:14It's always easy to come in against a bad defense when they have not prepared for you at all.
24:20Seattle is going to be well prepared for Gardner Minshew this week.
24:23And I think they're going to snuff him out like a candle.
24:27Erickson, you got Fitzy, uh, Fitzy. You've got, uh, Michael Wilson, all the nicknames now are in my brain.
24:33Uh, you've got Michael Wilson at 28. So also a little bit lower.
24:36So not really buying the, um, the Gardner Minshew.
24:39You know, insertion into the offense of like reviving, uh, him, especially against Seattle.
24:43Of course I'll give Minshew mania one quarter in Seattle before we, uh, before the Cardinals fans already call for Carson back to come into the game.
24:51Because I just don't think that this is going to last.
24:54Don't go chasing. What's the song? Don't go chasing waterfalls.
24:57Don't go chasing Cowboys box scores. Do you know who sung that song?
25:01Yeah. Oh yeah. Extra credit. Do you five and O prop week?
25:05Wilson last three games against the Seattle Seahawks, two catches for 18 yards, four cats for 34 yards, three catches for 15 yards.
25:11Don't don't play this guy. Honestly, I think 28 wherever I have him is too high.
25:16I think that he, I think that he's a bust this week.
25:20I would not start Michael. Well, Jacoby Brissett mentioned this on the Tyler O'Gio breakdown through for 95 yards against the Seahawks defense back in week two.
25:28They may not be able to pick up a first down.
25:31I I'm very concerned about this offense against this matchup.
25:34So Michael Wilson also playing with two broken ribs, not ideal when you're playing a fierce physical defense like Seattle.
25:40There's a chance that he could take one hit and get knocked out of the game.
25:44Like, obviously I don't want that to happen to him, but that's something you also have to kind of keep in the
25:51back of your mind when you're weighing risk versus reward.
25:54What is the upside with Michael Wilson this week?
25:56I don't think it's very high in the risk is immense.
26:00So I'm going in alternative. I mean, I think, yeah, I have to say flowers ahead of Michael.
26:05I mean, that's something I wouldn't even really consider flowers is healthy.
26:09He's better than Michael Wilson. So that's not a start sit decision.
26:12I think it's really too tough even given the quarterback situation in Baltimore.
26:16I just think this is just a brutal spot for Michael Wilson.
26:19Okay. Trivia question. Trivia. Two parter which TLC member that her name.
26:23Yeah, I know you're going to know this. Burn down what NFL players house.
26:27This is Erickson because I know. Yeah, I know.
26:30I don't know the name. I don't know the member.
26:33Okay, I'm going to give you the member. This is it's left eye.
26:37What NFL player. This is a wide receiver from the 90s pretty popular wide receivers house was burned down entirely entirely.
26:43The she burned it down mansion. Yeah, this wasn't yeah.
26:46Yeah, it wasn't like a house that we're living in.
26:49It was a mansion. She burned it in Atlanta.
26:51Area if that's a hint. Yeah, we gave you all the played.
26:55So he played for the Falcons. Is that is that the hint I'm getting here?
26:59I see a bad moon rising. Who was who was a receiver?
27:03I see in the 90s trouble. I don't know Andre Rison.
27:06Andre rise and Andre rise. And that's why I was singing the song Andre rise and number 80.
27:11I think with the Falcons back then left. I burned his house down so that you brought up TLC.
27:17The trivia question came in and I was like, oh, it relates to NFL.
27:21So we have to do that. How many of you knew that that we're listening by the way?
27:26But Bitsy knew it before I even asked the question.
27:29Yeah, don't forget the Andre rise and state with the Green Bay Packers score touchdown in the Super Bowl for them against the New England Patriots.
27:37Patriots and Packers. Big game. That's right. That's right.
27:40It's Brady's doing it. First game that he's doing a Patriots game.
27:43It's about time. We might have. We might have an angle on that game coming up in the show, Erickson.
27:49All right. Let's get some let's get some bets going.
27:52All right. Let's get this out of the way.
27:55Let's talk about Jalen Waddle. Yeah, you know, I love to do that.
27:58Jalen Waddle did. He had a game. You know, touchdowns in there scoring a little bit.
28:03He comes in an ECR 29. I do love to see that you guys are both lower than ECR.
28:09I have can kind of continue. She said if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
28:13It's fine. But I was like, what was going to have the day where people are going to be like, ah, see, it's getting back.
28:20And then you're going to put them in your lineups and then it's going to fail you.
28:25And that might be wrong because maybe the tide is turning a little bit, but you guys about lower than ECR 29 and 32.
28:32It's not me. Some as a wide receiver three, but you know, lower than that, that definitely pushes him out of starting ranges.
28:39So Erickson, you got him at 29. Well, let's start with you on this one.
28:43Fitz, he's at 32. Did your level of confidence change with Waddle or is Waddle still the same as it's always been?
28:50He's a fringy wide receiver three. If you don't have other better fun options, then you're going to put him out there.
28:56Do you feel that the ceiling has grown? Like where are you at on Waddle?
29:01Don't feel like the ceiling has grown because nothing has really changed about what his role in the offense is.
29:06It's still six targets, seven targets, seven targets, mediocre kind of yardage totals.
29:10Last week, he got the touchdown, which you're happy about caught a two point conversion.
29:15So it's encouraging that they're using him in the red zone and their running backs.
29:19Haven't been super great in the red zone. I know Jonah Coleman finally got into the red zone eventually after I gave
29:26him like 15 carries and he finally punched one in.
29:28So in the Carolina matchup is good, right? Denver's offense should be productive, both rushing the ball and throwing the ball.
29:35So I think that's kind of where you're looking at where Waddle has a path to relevance.
29:40But I think we've kind of seen this connection with him and Bo Nix and then they try to use him downfield
29:46sometimes, but Bo Nix is not good passing the ball down the field.
29:50So the fit with Waddle has not really been there.
29:53So I think that puts him in wide receiver three territory and a good matchup.
29:57Yeah, Fitz, he moved him outside the top 30.
30:00So it's becoming a little bit more fringy like wide receiver three.
30:04Has anything changed for you after like this game or even, you know, the parts of the previous game where it looked
30:10like he was getting going and he got banged up?
30:13Like, is your perception changed at all? Or is it still kind of the same spot?
30:18Still kind of the same. And you know, when Erickson and I are off the Jalen Waddle bandwagon, it's bad because we
30:24we caped up for that guy so much last season on the ranking shows.
30:28And we have been reduced to celebrating a performance by Jalen Waddle in which he had three catches for 39 yards and
30:35a touchdown and a two point conversion. So I don't know.
30:38I mean, I guess I could get behind him if you were in a pinch this week as a third receiver or
30:44flex play, but only because of the Panthers are so banged up at cornerback.
30:49They could be without once again, JC Horn and Mike Jackson.
30:52And now a Caleb Evans too. So three of their top four corners, I think.
30:56And Horn and Jackson might be eligible to come off IR this week, but I don't believe either guy is expected to.
31:03Like, I think they were initially worried about JC Horn season being a season ender.
31:07Maybe Jackson is closer. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
31:10But man, with the Panthers down at cornerback, I guess you could play Waddle in a pinch, but we just don't have
31:17expectations of hundred yard games for Jalen Waddle anymore.
31:19We don't often have the difference in this range of one of you calling a wide receiver, a wide receiver two, and
31:26one of you calling a wide receiver, a wide receiver four.
31:29Now it's on the fringe of both of those, but that is the case with Caleb Douglas, where he is ECR 32 fits is got him at 37.
31:37So that's like a flex wide receiver for Erickson.
31:40You got a wide receiver 24. So that is the last of wide receiver twos.
31:44So Erickson, why don't you hit us with Caleb Douglas?
31:47Your trust level clearly has rise risen and they're going up against Detroit.
31:51So I think that's probably a big piece of why you're going to like this one.
31:56So talk to us about Caleb Douglas. Averaging 2.2 yards per run this season that ranks 25th among all wide receivers at
32:02least a hundred routes run Caleb Douglas is the best wide receiver on the Miami Dolphins.
32:07He is their number one guy. And we saw that last week, even in a tough matchup against the Patriots and Christian
32:13Gonzalez caught four of six official targets for four to three yards.
32:17He actually had eight true targets and you include the targets that he saw that were erased by penalties.
32:23So that's good for a 23% target share played 86% of the snaps.
32:26And this is his second game back from his injury.
32:29So he's locked and loaded as this team's number one alpha wide receiver.
32:33And given the fact that he has the best matchup to date against this Detroit Lions defense that they just continue to lose piece after piece.
32:41So you're expecting Miami to have a negative game script here.
32:44If they're going to be throwing a little bit more in the second half of the game, then yeah, I think Caleb
32:50Douglas could flirt with double digit targets. He's been really efficient with the targets that he's gotten so far this season.
32:57So that's why I think that he is a top 24 play.
33:00So Fitzy, why are you not so into him?
33:03You've got him at 37. Um, you know, that definitely isn't a spot where you're not pressing him up to give any starts.
33:10What's the negative case on Caleb Douglas? Yeah, I, I do love the player.
33:14I agree with Erickson. He is the best wide receiver.
33:17The Dolphins have, I think he's much better than Malik Washington.
33:20I think he's better than Chris Bell. Um, and he is averaging 10.3 half point PPR fantasy points per game tied with Justin Jefferson for wide receiver 29.
33:28So, um, the only thing is I don't totally trust the offensive environment with Miami yet.
33:33And we are seeing a little more, uh, more signs of life, I guess, from Malik Willis as a passer.
33:39His last two games, he's gone over 200 passing yards and has had two touchdown passes in each of them.
33:45But before that Malik Willis had thrown two touchdown passes in five games.
33:48And for the season, he's still averaging just 180 passing yards a game.
33:52So it's kind of a, an oxygen starved environment for the pass catchers.
33:56And I'm just a little worried about that. I will move up Caleb Douglas a little bit.
34:01If Brian branches out, he got a concussion. Uh, he concussed himself crashing into teammate DJ Wanham last week.
34:07And Brian branches got to stop leading with his helmet on hits.
34:10But, um, if branches out, then I will maybe move up Caleb Douglas a little bit because that defense was absolutely getting
34:17torched when they didn't have branch earlier in the season has been a little better lately.
34:21But if there's no branch, I'm going to have to move up, uh, Douglas into wide receiver three territory.
34:27I do want to say one thing just to make a note.
34:31I think part of the reason why I've seen Willis better is because he has Douglas in the lineup, right?
34:36Cause he listed out like how the inconsistency has been with his passing yardage.
34:41Douglas was healthy to start the year. I think three of the four best passing games from really cool us have come with Caleb Douglas in the lineup.
34:49So going back to the point why he makes a big impact on this passing game and why we saw him like
34:55Willis kind of struggle a little bit passing wise in the middle portion of the season.
35:00Cause Douglas wasn't playing. Uh, the final wide receiver, before we get to a deep play for both of you, Keenan Allen,
35:07this is a, another kind of split version. And one of this is just like wide receiver three to like more of
35:13a flex option play, but he comes in at 34.
35:16Erickson, you've got it down at 39. So not quite as excited, but fits you've got him at wide receiver 30.
35:22So top 30 wide receiver. So fits. Why don't you talk to us about, uh, Keenan Allen and, uh, your comfort level
35:29of starting him this week versus the Dallas Cowboys.
35:31A high floor, low ceiling, um, four of his last five games.
35:35Allen has had at least seven targets and five catches and granted he is averaging just nine yards per catch this season,
35:41but those short little passes to Keenan Allen. That's one of the few ways that Colts can move the ball these days.
35:48And it's possible possible. The Colts might not have Jonathan Taylor, Josh Downs by this weekend since they're both on the trading block.
35:55Oh, and by the way, the Colts are playing the Cowboys this week who might be capable of making 34 year old
36:01Keenan Allen look like 25 year old Keenan Allen.
36:04So I think he's playable this week. And again, the ceiling is limited, but floor is pretty, pretty sturdy.
36:09Erickson, not so much on the agreement side like that.
36:12Keenan Allen might just be the only live body there.
36:15This might be him and Daniel Jones. Even if not, you know, he's going to get some run.
36:20Dallas Cowboys doesn't do anything for you. I just questioned the ceiling.
36:24Right. And that's where I find it tough to rank him too highly because I want to capture ceiling in my ranking
36:30because I want people to start players that have high ceilings.
36:34But that being said, sometimes you just take your six for 60, take it to the bank, make cash out.
36:40Right. So yeah, I could see myself moving Allen up.
36:43He was someone that I looked at for a lot of my rankings, trying to figure out where I wanted to pinpoint him.
36:49So hopefully the Colts will make it easy for me, the trade away half their team.
36:54And it's just easy to kind of plug him in to be a, okay, lock in double digit targets, him and Tyler
37:00Warren as the two last men standing in the Colts passing attack.
37:04I kind of fun, like Fitzy versus Erickson. One might be Caleb Douglas versus Keenan Allen this weekend.
37:09You guys want to do that? I'll take that.
37:12Do a hair bet. I'm team. Loser shaves their heads.
37:15Caleb Douglas. Well, before we get to the deep plays, can I ask a noted New England Patriots fan, Andrew Erickson to
37:21give me like in less than a minute, just his take on Demario Douglas for this week against the Packers.
37:27His role doesn't really change in the offense. Like last week, he still ran fewer routes than Chisholm or play fewer snaps in Chisholm and Kyle Williams did.
37:36So he's one of these players that teams definitely don't look to take away in any way, shape or form.
37:41They're not really worried about Demario Douglas, especially when there are other playmakers in the Patriots offense.
37:46Obviously with guys like Dobbs and AJ Brown hurt and not playing, you see more targets for Demario Douglas.
37:52But even last week, right? Chisholm had more targets than he did.
37:56Kyle Williams had the big play. Douglas obviously had a couple of big plays as well.
38:00So I just think that he's right. Where's his ECR?
38:03I think it's 36. I think low end fantasy wide receiver three is just like the perfect spot for Demario Douglas, especially
38:10because I think Packers defense is underrated too. Like they've been good the last couple of games.
38:15And may spreads it around and Matt Collins, I think is coming off IR this week.
38:19So. All right. Final thing is your deep plays.
38:22Erickson, why don't you kick us with your deep play?
38:25I think this is your deep play last week as well.
38:28Pretty good. Doesn't come in as a top 36 wide receiver this week, but I think he did leave the commanders in targets lead.
38:35I was so bummed out because he finished exactly where ECR had him last week as wide receiver 39.
38:41And I felt like his performance was so much better than that too.
38:45Right? You get five cats, 54 yards. Obviously digs is the one that scores the touchdown.
38:49So we don't get the top 36 finish for Antonio Williams, but we will not be denied the Antonio Williams breakout game
38:56because it's going to happen sooner rather than later led the team in targets last week for the Washington commanders.
39:02I think that he might be the best receiver on this team, even better than Stefan digs.
39:07So I think that Williams in a matchup against a Ram secondary, that's a little bit banged up.
39:12Trent McDuffie dealing with an injury. Um, their other starting quarterback whose name has escaped me is also dealing with another injury.
39:19Look, he ran the most routes. He's ran the most routes for the commanders.
39:23Every single game that Terry McClurin has either missed entirely or missed most of and on the year Williams has run just one fewer route than Stefan digs.
39:31He has more receiving arts. He leads the commanders in receiving arts this season.
39:35So I'm going to continue to ride the Antonio Williams hype train is is Jalen Watson.
39:40The other corner. Yes. That's I had to do a tone for forgetting DJ Turner's name at the top of the show.
39:46Am I wrong about this? That's what was this also your deep play last week?
39:51Am I going? Ryan Flannoy. Yeah, it wasn't. Wasn't it or did I just make that up?
39:56Oh, I can't. He might've been. I love it.
39:58You guys are running a bit on the deeper playlist before.
40:02Oh yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah. Let's run it back with the guy who's had either a touchdown or 70 plus yards in four straight games.
40:09And so Flannoy has played more than half his snaps in the slot and he is going to be facing a Colts
40:16pass defense that has just been getting battered by slot receivers all season.
40:20Love it. Deep plays top 36 and more. Hopefully that gets you guys covered for this week.
40:25Obviously lots of offerings are on fantasy pros from live streams and more to get you guys set if you got more
40:31questions, but those are the ranks go to fantasy pros dot com slash slash NFL slash rankings.
40:36If you guys want to see how they update throughout the week and what that ends up looking like.
40:42There's a good core look of where not only ECR currently is, but where these guys have got them.
40:47That is going to do it for this episode.
40:50Thank you guys so much for hanging out and good luck in week nine.
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42:36Catch the red eye or take the 6 a.m.
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