The Fantasy Football Draft Questions Everyone Is Asking Before Week 1 (Ep. 2169)
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1 hr 6 min
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Estimated from transcript
Sep 4, 2026
Published
Fri, September 4, 2026
47
Player insights
38
Players mentioned
Topics
Chase BrownBucky IrvingChris BellDrake MayeJahmyr GibbsJavonte WilliamsTank BigsbyTrey McBrideA.J. BrownAmon-Ra St. BrownBijan RobinsonBreece HallChris OlaveChristian McCaffrey
Player analysis
Player insights
A.J. Brown
PositiveValue66:51
AJ Brown is highlighted as a strong value pick in the second round of a 10-team draft, contributing to a wide-receiver-heavy build strategy.
Insight pageAmon-Ra St. Brown
PositiveValue9:51
Amon-Ra St. Brown is considered a high-end stud wide receiver for auction builds.
Insight pageBijan Robinson
PositiveValue66:48
Bijan Robinson is a high-value asset in full PPR formats; the analysts advise against trading him for CeeDee Lamb or other pieces, as he serves as a 'hero RB' who provides a massive positional advantage that should be kept rather than traded for depth.
Insight pageBreece Hall
PositiveValue24:22
Erickson suggests targeting Breece Hall as a potential bargain in dynasty trades due to his youth and talent.
Insight pageBucky Irving
NegativeValue19:35
The speaker expressed regret after being forced to draft Bucky Irving in the third round of a 16-team league.
Insight pageNegativeValue19:42
Chris Welsh was forced to take Bucky Irving in the third round of a 16-team league and expressed some regret regarding the pick.
Insight pageChase Brown
NegativeValue7:15
Chase Brown is being drafted around pick 12 in auction formats, serving as a key piece in a 'studs and scrubs' roster build.
Insight pageNegativeValue15:15
Chase Brown is a keeper in the fourth round for a 10-team PPR league with three flex spots.
Insight pagePositiveProjection20:26
Chase Brown is ranked as the RB3 behind Jonathan Taylor and Kenneth Walker.
Insight pageChris Bell
PositiveSleeper59:42
Chris Bell is identified as a major sleeper candidate who is expected to emerge as the primary wide receiver in the Dolphins offense, likely seeing a high volume of targets despite a modest overall ranking.
Insight pagePositiveSleeper99:02
Chris Bell is a new addition to the sleeper wide receiver list, with the expectation that he will be 'littered with targets' and potentially become the number one option in the Dolphins' offense.
Insight pageChris Olave
PositiveValue66:53
Chris Olave is identified as a solid third-round selection in a wide-receiver-heavy draft strategy.
Insight pageChristian McCaffrey
Colston Loveland
PositiveValue87:21
Colston Loveland is considered a high-value target in the 10th round of keeper leagues, with the analysts suggesting he is a 'too good of a deal' to pass up compared to other options.
Insight pageDavid Montgomery
NegativeProjection26:55
Erickson views David Montgomery as a legitimate starter but is personally indifferent about his long-term outlook.
Insight pageDe'Von Achane
PositiveProjection20:26
De'Von Achane is ranked as the RB4 behind Jonathan Taylor, Kenneth Walker, and Chase Brown.
Insight pageDK Metcalf
PositiveProjection13:43
Andrew Erickson ranks DK Metcalf ahead of Michael Pittman Jr. for the start of the season, viewing Metcalf as the better upside play.
Insight pageDrake London
PositiveValue9:51
Drake London is considered a high-end stud wide receiver for auction builds.
Insight pageDrake Maye
NegativeValue9:51
Chris Welsh and Bogman utilized Drake Maye as a budget-friendly quarterback option in a superflex auction build.
Insight pagePositiveValue22:08
Erickson views Drake Maye as a solid 'hero QB' in dynasty superflex formats.
Insight pageGarrett Wilson
George Pickens
NegativeValue23:31
Erickson suggests packaging George Pickens to upgrade at the running back position in dynasty leagues.
Insight pageJahmyr Gibbs
PositiveValue19:09
Andrew Erickson selected Jahmyr Gibbs with the first overall pick in the 16-team Tags League, calling it the easiest pick of all time.
Insight pagePositiveProjection30:36
The analysts are high on Jahmyr Gibbs, suggesting he should be treated as a monster and a potential league-winner.
Insight pageJavonte Williams
PositiveValue24:04
Erickson likes Javonte Williams as a dynasty buy because he is 26, signed a new contract, and has a palatable price.
Insight pageJonathan Taylor
PositiveProjection20:26
Jonathan Taylor is ranked as the top running back, followed by Kenneth Walker, Chase Brown, and De'Von Achane.
Insight pageJordan Addison
NegativeValue25:11
Trading Jordan Addison and Kenneth Gainwell for Ashton Chinty is considered a great deal by the analysts.
Insight pageJordan Mason
PositiveBreakout26:46
Erickson likes Jordan Mason as a running back option who could work out for a team's roster.
Insight pageJuwan Johnson
PositiveSleeper92:11
Juwan Johnson is a preferred sleeper tight end for Week 1 over Tucker Kraft, as his target projection is considered safer in full PPR formats.
Insight pageKenneth Gainwell
NegativeValue25:11
Trading Kenneth Gainwell and Jordan Addison for Ashton Chinty is considered a great deal by the analysts.
Insight pageKenneth Walker III
Kyler Murray
PositiveSleeper90:49
Kyler Murray is the top-ranked sleeper quarterback due to his rushing upside and a favorable early-season schedule, including matchups against Green Bay and Chicago.
Insight pageLuke Musgrave
PositiveBreakout27:28
Erickson notes that Luke Musgrave has a lot of upside for teams punting the tight end position.
Insight pageMalik Willis
PositiveSleeper90:49
Malik Willis is ranked as the number two sleeper quarterback, primarily driven by his rushing potential.
Insight pageMarShawn Lloyd
PositiveSleeper93:57
MarShawn Lloyd is the consensus number one sleeper running back, with significant upside if Josh Jacobs misses time.
Insight pageMichael Pittman
NegativeInjury13:43
Andrew Erickson is shifting DK Metcalf ahead of Michael Pittman Jr. because Pittman has missed significant time with an injury and is 'behind the eight ball' heading into the season.
Insight pagePuka Nacua
NegativeValue63:16
Puka Nacua was selected at the fifth overall pick in an elimination draft, though there is some concern regarding his health status heading into Week 1.
Insight pageRay Davis
Rico Dowdle
Saquon Barkley
PositiveProjection90:03
Despite being lower on Saquon Barkley than consensus, the analysts acknowledge he is likely to have a better year than last season and recommend trading for him if it means upgrading from lesser assets.
Insight pageTank Bigsby
PositiveSleeper28:54
Tank Bigsby is highlighted as a true, high-value handcuff who could be a top-12 running back if he were to take over the starting role.
Insight pagePositiveSleeper95:05
Tank Bigsby is a high-upside sleeper running back who could see a standalone role and would be a 'smash' play if Saquon Barkley were to miss time.
Insight pageTrey McBride
PositiveValue19:30
In a 16-team league, McBride fell to the second round, representing great value for drafters.
Insight pagePositiveValue19:35
Trey McBride fell to the second round in a 16-team league due to a heavy run on running backs.
Insight pageTucker Kraft
NegativeSleeper92:26
Tucker Kraft has touchdown equity due to his red-zone usage, but he is viewed as less safe than Juwan Johnson for full PPR leagues.
Insight pageZach Charbonnet
NegativeUsage22:22
Erickson notes that the value of other running backs on the team will decrease as Zach Charbonnet returns to the lineup.
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Episode Transcript
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0:39Andrew Erickson, the Undertaker. Pride of New Orleans Radio.
0:42And Deuce McAllister's new best friend as Erickson was brought on to talk fantasy with Deuce McAllister.
0:47I loved Deuce McAllister. Erickson? Dude, Deuce McAllister was one of my favorite running backs to play as in Madden 2005.
0:53Hell yeah! So the fact that I got the opportunity to talk to him every single week on the New Orleans radio is pretty exciting.
1:00And he's asking me questions about football. I mean, it's fantasy football, but football is just kind of, it's like a pinch me moment, honestly.
1:08Wait, it's every single week? Every Thursday. Oh. Or excuse me, every Wednesday, 725 Central Time, which is, that's where New Orleans is on Central Time.
1:15So 825 Eastern Time. Usually it's right after I finish eating dinner, I'm doing the dishes, cleaning up, and then I do my radio hit.
1:23Kind of awesome. That's kind of awesome. Well, congrats, buddy.
1:26A little shout out there. Deuce McAllister and Andrew Erickson just chopping it up and hanging out like we're going to chop
1:32it up and hang out with you guys. This is the show of the people, for the people, and with the people
1:39because we are hanging out in our Fantasy Pros Discord with a live audience.
1:43And you guys are going to dictate what we talk about and super excited to do so.
1:48If you guys want to join the party, you can.
1:51Fantasypros.com slash chat. FantasyPros.com slash chat every Thursday at 2 p.m.
1:54Eastern. Erickson and I are here. If you're listening on the podcast, come and hang out with us.
1:59You also get to hear it a day early and you get to be a part of the whole thing.
2:05And there are plenty of other reasons to want to hang out in the Fantasy Pros Discord.
2:10We've got Boggs and Fitz, 5 p.m. Eastern. Well, I think it's like this hasn't been updated.
2:15I think it's the third Tuesday of every month.
2:18They were doing every month in August. 5 p.m.
2:20Eastern for Worm and Fitz on the first Tuesday of every month.
2:24And then Erickson and I are here every week.
2:26But people are talking lineups. They've been doing mock drafts in the end season.
2:31And this becomes a really important show because we are here on Thursday afternoons kind of setting you up for those last questions.
2:37So fantasypros.com slash chat. Fantasypros.com slash chat. Be a part of the Fantasy Pro Discord community and be a part of our show.
2:44Erickson, we've got a full audience. We've got a ton of hands up here.
2:48And this is a wide open one. This could be final draft questions and prep.
2:53This could be week one stuff. We just partially finished recording some of the week one episode for ranks on RBs.
2:59We're going to do wide receivers here in a little bit.
3:02Like we're in the thick of all of it.
3:05So we're open to whatever you guys got. So let's jump into it.
3:08And as a tease to the end of the episode, we are going to update you for the final time on what
3:15our in-season sleepers are going to be. So if you cared at all, Erickson and I ranked top seven in all of
3:21the world in sleeper rankings last year, the fantasy pros world of, you know, everybody that ranked it.
3:27And we talked about it last week at the end of the episode.
3:30We have made some updates. I've got if I've got an update, I think one wide receiver, I think two at running back.
3:37And I don't know if I've changed quarterback and tight end.
3:40I don't know where Erickson's at, but at the end of the episode, we are going to give you what our updated
3:47sleeper ranks are going into the season. So you can take that into the final drafts.
3:52And I'll be honest with you. I think there's at least one guy on mine, at least one that is a pickup.
3:58You could pick him up even after week one that isn't getting drafted.
4:02So you guys let me know. We'll see. And let's kick it off with the first person.
4:07This is Kilo. Kilo, come on down and tell us what you got, man.
4:11Extra point. Will it be good? We have, we do have the first down, second down.
4:16Kilo looks like he is struggling on first down going once, going twice and sold.
4:20Kilo, you can re-raise your hand and come back up for second down, but Cornwallis.
4:24I know we can always count on Cornwallis as I set myself up there.
4:28Cornwallis. Oh, there you go. Cornwallis. What's up, brother?
4:31Hey, what's up? Uh, so last week we talked auction stars and scrubs.
4:35I'm admittedly not a stars and scrubs guy, but I ended up in a stars and scrubs build.
4:40Um, so I kind of wanted to get your guys' take on it.
4:44Um, basically CD lamb. I'm not sort of talking pick equivalent cause like the money doesn't really mean anything to most people,
4:51but like CD lamb at pick eight chase Brown, pick 12, Jente 18, Garrett Wilson at 36, uh, Travion Henderson at 84 Rico, 98.
4:58Then, and I didn't really pick again to like pick a hundred and 25 and it was Myers Lloyd, Trey Tucker, Jacoby Lane, K Sean booty.
5:05Okay. So you're going to have to, it's hard to like mentally.
5:09So this is your auction. Give me the top players that the studs that you went with again, just give me the studs.
5:15Uh, lamb, Brown, Jente Garrett Wilson. Okay, cool. I just did a, um, I think I mentioned this pentathlon.
5:21Derek van Riper runs it. We did an auction.
5:24Um, it's actually funny. It's the most cause DVR.
5:26There's a lot of baseball people that are in there.
5:29The what's the most baseball thing you can do to fantasy football, make it a Roto football league.
5:35And that's what it is. It actually, it's kind of gross if we're being honest, but it's a Roto league that, and
5:41it's five different events, by the way, we have to do DFS.
5:44We have to do pick them. We have a best ball, but this specific one was an auction super flex to tight
5:51end Roto one and Bogman and I went studs and scrubs and our studs and scrubs were may Lawrence for two for the super flex.
5:58And then we went a Monra, Drake London and Christian McCaffrey.
6:02So, and I budgeted there. So I kind of like what you did.
6:05Uh, you got, I really think you want to go with a high end wide receivers.
6:10Give me like a couple of the, the, um, scrubs that you picked up on that team as well.
6:16So these guys aren't quite scrubs, but like Travion Henderson and Rico Dattle is my RB threes and fours, but they were,
6:22you know, well outside the top 50. Yeah. Um, at the bottom it's Jacoby Myers, Marshawn Lloyd, Trey Tucker, Jacoby Lane and Kayshawn duty.
6:29Okay. So you just want us to grade out your auction?
6:32Just kind of get your guys' thoughts on like stars and scrubs.
6:36Like w is this a build you'd be comfortable with?
6:39Um, that kind of stuff. Yeah, I think so.
6:41That's kind of how ours looks. We're, we're pretty disgusting in, on our scrubs.
6:46Um, and on our bench, like our running backs kind of stink in the studs and scrubs.
6:51I think we got like Mononga is our third RB.
6:53Emmitt Johnson. Um, you know, Chris Bell is someone we took at the end.
6:58Like I, I, we're the truest sense of studs and scrubs, but that's a price you got to pay.
7:03I think you did pretty good. You're not quite in the territory.
7:07I think me and Bogman were, I think you've got a little bit more balanced though.
7:11You are a roster in Jacoby lane. Erickson, what do you think about a studs and scrubs auction build and how, and
7:18some of the names that he put on it?
7:20At least from my perspective, it doesn't really seem like a stars and scrubs kind of team.
7:25Seems like it's pretty balanced to be honest. Yeah.
7:28Maybe I'm wrong there. I mean, make it to study wide receivers.
7:32Well, the money that you spend in the auction obviously dictates the definition of, of stars and scrubs.
7:37But when you just like, if you just listed off that roster and not had prefaced it with this is a stars
7:43and scrubs team, I'd be like, it's a good team for an auction.
7:47I'm not like blown away by the top heaviness of it, but I'm also not blown away by like, Oh man, cause
7:54I've seen to your point, real stars and scrubs where the scrubs are really bad.
7:58Why do you keep saying stars and scrubs? Is that like your term for it?
8:02What is it? Studs and scrubs. What is it?
8:05Yeah. No, I, well, that's okay. I just thought it was like, it's studs and scrubs.
8:10You're saying stars and scrubs. I've literally never heard that before.
8:13It totally makes sense. But I thought you were like, you were really hitting at home.
8:18Like you wanted to correct me by saying stars and scrubs.
8:21I mean, stars and scrubs is there's literally an article on fantasy pros called stars and scrubs.
8:26I always called it. So am I the weirdo?
8:29Okay. Now we got to vote. Everybody in the chat.
8:31Is it stars and scrubs or studs and scrubs?
8:34And if you're listening on the podcast, both of them work.
8:37No, it's a studs and scrubs. You refers to stars and scrubs or studs and duds.
8:42No, no. I I'm losing my mind. I'm going to go crazy.
8:46If you're listening on the podcast, like on, on Spotify, they let you make comments.
8:50Oh my God. Studs and scrubs sounds better. I'm living in a crazy world.
8:54See people. So it's mixed. No, it's not a mix.
8:57Everyone's on your side right now. McTunda saying that is not a Welsh.
9:01It is always been studs and scrubs to me.
9:03I've never heard of stars and scrubs. That doesn't even like go off the tongue properly.
9:08What's happening here? Is somebody on my side? Team studs.
9:11King said that studs and scrubs sounds better, but not that it's correct.
9:15Studs and scrubs. Yeah, it does sound studs and scrubs.
9:18It's the alliteration sounds better. Okay. I just need to know everyone that's hanging here live.
9:23You can vote, but if you're listening on the podcast, please, we need to, I need to find out is it studs
9:29and scrubs or stars and scrubs total appreciation for you doing it.
9:33But you said it so many times. I was like, what's happening here.
9:36We need to know are you stars or team studs, but going back to your main point, you probably wouldn't have known
9:43whatever you call it that this actually was you're kind of right.
9:46Cause like my version of it, by the way, like when you hear Drake, May Lawrence and a super flex Christian McCaffrey, a monitor, St.
9:54Brown and London, that's the truest sense of the studs or the stars.
9:57And then having I had Jalen Coker. We have to start at our flex spot.
10:02Like that's, that's what that ends up looking like.
10:04You know what I mean? Yeah. We can't get over this either.
10:08What did Nosti said? This is a Mandela effect situation.
10:11The universes are collapsing for watch. It's a hundred percent.
10:14The stars doesn't rhyme. Like Brick said, I, I, this might be Mandela effect, but it's a hundred percent.
10:19But like crazy world I'm experiencing where those first couple people were with you.
10:24Stars doesn't rhyme. Yeah. Who cares if it rhymes?
10:26It does because that's the whole point. That's like, well, it's not the whole point, but that's like, that's why it was studs and scrubs.
10:34This is crazy to me. I'm now like. Is it, is it a Berenstain bears or Berenstain bears?
10:39It's Berenstain. Is it? That's another Mandela. Oh my God.
10:42We can get into that later. Oh my God.
10:44My brains are frying. This is the best episode we've ever done.
10:48I'm going to get so many comments. It's going to be so many.
10:52We're going to get like a thing from our bosses.
10:55Hey guys, just want to let you know, you guys really got a lot of comments on the podcast.
11:00This is exciting. And we're like, well, it's all because of Berenstain bear and stars and scrubs.
11:05It's Berenstain bears. What? Yeah. You didn't know that?
11:08It's not Berenstain. Yes, it is. Look it up.
11:11It's S T A I N. Not E I N.
11:13Oh my God. This is a bad way to go into the season.
11:17Berenstain. I've never heard of that. That's how it's spelled.
11:20Wait until he finds out. Monopoly guy never had a monocle.
11:23Oh my God. We're just going to log off real quick.
11:27All right. We should probably get back to that.
11:29We will get back to it. I mean, I feel like the chat has turned on me.
11:34Like I'm just an idiot then. So apologies for my stupidity of Berenstain and stars and scrubs, but very good question.
11:40Yeah. I think it's, it was like a solid ish team.
11:44I don't think it was as a study as possible, but that was a fun conversation.
11:48I'm excited to see. I'm blowing my mind. Please stop by the way.
11:52Don't pull another thing out. They're going to be like, in fact, it's, it is tomato.
11:57Everyone says it's not actually tomato. You're going to just, you're going to kill me the rest of this episode.
12:03Oh, you know what? Here's McTunda. I need someone on my side.
12:06Well, actually McTunda was going against me. McTunda put a, well, McTunda was in a draft last night with me and he,
12:13uh, making a lot of good picks that I did not appreciate.
12:16I don't know why I can't get, Oh, and kilo, I'll get you back up here in a second.
12:22I accidentally clicked McTunda for some reason that was taken forever.
12:25McTunda. That's not a Welshism. Are you there? This is a Mandela effect.
12:29Oh, there we go. I'm here now. There you go.
12:32That's not a well, it's start studs and scrubs.
12:34It's not a Welshism. It's close enough. Do you?
12:37You don't have many football Welshisms to be fair.
12:40Yeah. Well, I'm just dumb. It's just, it doesn't have to be sports specific.
12:44It's just idiocy. But do you say stars and scrubs?
12:47I do say stars and scrubs. Oh my God.
12:49Do you say Berenstain bear? No, I've, I grew up Berenstain bears.
12:53I only learned about the Berenstain bears like six months ago.
12:56That, that, oh, you learned about it. Cause it's a real thing.
13:00Berenstain? Yes. That is a very popularized Mandela effect where everyone remembers it as Berenstain bears, but when you actually go back and look, it's Berenstain bears.
13:08You meant the opposite, but I know what you meant.
13:11All right. I'm McTendon. Sorry. I'll, I'll get us off of that.
13:14My brain is fried. Well, I did take some picks from Erickson, but he also stole Algier from me in the ninth.
13:21And I'm, I'm still not happy about that. Yeah.
13:23That's a, that's definitely an Erickson pick. Uh, what do you got for us though?
13:28Um, if you're staring down the barrel and it's either Pittman or DK, who are you taking in a full PPR league?
13:34That's a good question. Erickson. What do you think?
13:37I've been on the Pittman bandwagon for a majority of the off season, but now that I've kind of seen more reports
13:43about how Pittman has missed so much time with his injury and that he's kind of behind the eight ball.
13:49I think that Metcalf is going to probably open the year as the more productive wide receiver.
13:54And I think that the upside case for both guys was middling at best.
13:58So I'm actually going to shift Metcalf ahead of Michael Pittman, Jr.
14:02Acknowledging Pittman could probably have a surge later in the season and maybe overtake DK Metcalf as the number one target, but
14:08out of the gates, I think it's going to be Metcalf and I think that's what I'd rather invest in, especially if
14:14I'm going to draft any Steelers wide receiver. I think that Pittman, if he starts out slow, he's going to be the
14:21first guy you cut from your team. Uh, I am.
14:24I'm, I'm good with, I think Metcalf is the upside play.
14:27I think, um, I think younger. Yeah. I just typed in a popular Mandela effect.
14:32Number four, the Berenstain Bears didn't exist. They didn't even exist because it's Berenstain.
14:36I have the books. What do you mean they didn't exist?
14:39Well, that's what it says. I have the books.
14:41No, but to your point, it is not Berenstain.
14:44It is Berenstain. That is wild. Also, Curious George apparently, uh, didn't have a tail.
14:49So that's a popular Mandela. We're going to be going through this the rest of the show.
14:54I don't care. Uh, I will, I will sprinkle in these Mandela effects to the rest of the episode because these are now fascinating.
15:01Uh, maybe not all 40, but some of them.
15:03All right. Uh, Kilo. Sorry, man. Uh, what do you got?
15:06Can you hear me? Yeah, we got you, dude.
15:09Hey, so I'm in a keeper league and I kept chase Brown in the fourth round and I have the seventh pick
15:16in a 10 team league PPR three flex. Now I'm trying to figure out how I should go about my first three rounds.
15:22Who would you guys target in those first three rounds?
15:25Okay. So you have chase Brown and then do I'm sorry.
15:28Did you, what pick did you say? Seven? Yes.
15:31Okay. So you have any, who else is being, who else is being kept?
15:35Yeah. Good point. Is it heavy? Okay. So for a first three round type of guys, Jonathan Taylor's gone.
15:41Uh, Jameer Gibbs is gone. Jason is gone. Um, Javante Williams is gone.
15:45Uh, that should be. So your guy is kind of the lowest of the keepers.
15:49And Derek Henry's gone. Okay. So maybe Derek Henry is the lowest.
15:53Okay. Okay. I would say, I would say in the first.
15:56Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. So I would say, so B John chase Nakua.
16:00So that was one, two, three St. Brown. He said was being kept, right?
16:04I think so. Yeah. Okay. So he's gone. Cook is gone.
16:07He already said JT is gone. He said, JSN is gone.
16:10So now we're in the territory of guys he could pick.
16:14So among running backs, it looks like it's Walker, a Chan, AJ Brown, or a wide receiver, Hampton Barkley.
16:19So, I mean, there's a lot of good running backs here.
16:22I think maybe you hit one of these other tier two running backs, really get your stable and then just pound receiver.
16:29Cause you have three flex spots. So you can just fill it with a bunch of high upside wide receivers.
16:35That's probably my approach, especially in a 10 team league where it's easy to get tight end.
16:40So I don't know. Do you do co-sign on that?
16:43Welsh, what do you think? Um, I mean, I, I guess I'm kind of BPA in that standpoint.
16:48I don't have a pro. It sounded like he might've also been throwing out that there's, um, there's like round effects on some of these.
16:55So that might play a role in. Like if you didn't have a second round pick and you took a running back
17:02and then you get a lower end wide receiver.
17:04I'm just kind of BPA on that. Like I was going to ask you if the decision is Hampton or London, and
17:11you've already kept Brown, which, which one would you want?
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18:21Hampton. Hampton. Okay, so you would want to go the running back.
18:24Yeah, I think if one of the like top 10 running backs are out there, that's what I would want to do.
18:31But like, you know, if an Amonra or Justin Jefferson was out there, I would lean there.
18:36I think it gets tricky when it's like, here's Pickens and here's the running back.
18:40I probably lean the running back. Dude, we did the Tags League.
18:44Erickson and I both did. The, you know, Mike Tagliere League.
18:47In honor of him, that's our championship league here at Fantasy Pros.
18:50It's a 16 team monster. Only three people from the content league.
18:54Finish Pros is a big company, by the way.
18:56Only three of us made it. Me and Erickson are two of those three that made it into the Tags League this
19:03year, which were fighting for the championship and Wormley.
19:06We got picks one, two and three. Erickson got the top pick.
19:09Easiest pick of all time. He takes, I'm sorry, what did you take?
19:13Gibbs, right? Yeah. Okay. For some reason, I thought you took Bichon for a second.
19:17Bichon goes to, I'm sitting there going. I know it's 16 team.
19:21Maybe I should take the running back. Nah, we're going to go with Chase.
19:25Proceeds to be the biggest run of running backs I've ever seen in my life happen.
19:30So much so in a 16 team league, it was like Trey McBride fell back to the second round.
19:35So I ended up going McBride and then I was forced into in the third round having to take Bucky Irving and
19:42I kind of regretted a little bit. So what I'm getting at, obviously it's not, it doesn't sound like this is a
19:4816 team league, but if you're in a position where you are worried that people are really pressing running back, if you
19:55can get the elite running backs, there is really great value in doing that because that mid tier wide receiver, that teens
20:01range of wide receiver is so good. Like Buka, Tedaroa, Waddle.
20:04Like I love that. I even love, then you get into the mid twenties, Parker, Washington, Mike Evans.
20:10Like I just, I, I probably do want to build the running back.
20:13So I'm, I'm with you with that. So I probably need to close this by the way, this Mandela effect.
20:19I am absolutely getting, uh, I am getting completely thrown into multiple directions when I'm reading some of these that are insane.
20:26Kylo did also ask which running back. So the order I have after JT is Walker, Chase Brown, HN.
20:31So those three guys, you know, that order. Okay, perfect.
20:34Yeah. A lot of these, by the way, I'll stop with Mandela fix, but there's like, this guy didn't have a tail
20:41or Pikachu did not have like a line on his tail or, uh, the hyphen and Kit Kat.
20:46So those are the fun ones, but you already broke my brain.
20:49Uh, catalyst. What's up catalyst? Hi guys. Thanks for having me on the show.
20:54Thanks dude. Yeah. So, um, I'm going into my, um, super team of trying to like, when the only issue I have,
21:00um, maybe it's just with the quarterback crawler. So I posted in the chat.
21:04My concern is that like right now my starters are may and Rogers and I have been doze on the bench, but
21:11like, you know, Raiders side to sit him. There's, um, some possibility he could play in November just so that way, like they dip his feet.
21:18But I wanted to know if there is any other moves I would have to make in order to try to make my win now move.
21:26Now is this, you said this is super flex.
21:28Uh, yes. Uh, 12 teams, super flex tight end premium.
21:31Oh, tight. I was about to say, I'm like, is this too tight in or tight end premium?
21:37Cause he's got. Warren and fan in it tight end chasing Scott and tootin and prices the running backs.
21:42Jason, Ted pickings like Buka sick wide receivers, may Rogers, Brissette and Mendoza, uh, and no picks coming into last year.
21:48So that's kind of the structure of the team.
21:51What do you, what do you think you're Erickson?
21:54I'm not really concerned about quarterback. I think that between having Brissette for extended part of the season, you have Rogers for the beginning of the season.
22:02So even if those guys end up not starting games later on in the year, that's when you'll see Mendoza in the lineup.
22:08So I'm not really concerned about quarterback. You have Drake may as your hero QB, and you have a hodgepodge of guys
22:15that you can make by or get by with those three players.
22:18I think that you're fine. I'm actually probably more concerned about your running backs.
22:22I think it's probably my biggest push point because price, you can see his value decrease as Charbonnet comes back.
22:28So that's a concern to in. I think ultimately he's going to break through as the burning back you want on this team.
22:35Scadaboo seems like movie boomer bust when it comes to the Giants offense.
22:39I'm not a big guy this year. I don't know what you can sell him for in a dynasty context because it
22:45seems like he's got a very wide range of outcomes in terms of his price.
22:50Ultimately, I would probably be on the cell just based on the hype for Scadaboo and injury concerns for long term, the
22:56Giants offense and what that's going to look like.
22:59And the fact that they have four running backs on the roster that they're inviting potential touches for that concerns me.
23:05So I want to throw you a trade option here because I kind of agree with you here.
23:10Like he called this a super team. I don't know if this is a super team.
23:15The receivers are really good. I mean, except Jonas is five.
23:18Yeah. May is sick in dynasty. Tight end is good too.
23:21Yeah. May is sick in dynasty. And he said super flex wide receivers, sick tight end premium.
23:26You're killing it. Do you think you could offer and would you do it?
23:31Pickens and Scadaboo to go get like a Ken Walker, you know, and maybe like a, a second round pick or something
23:37like that, or maybe another piece that kind of helps right now.
23:41Like, do you think that's the type of running back you could package pick?
23:45I mean, does Pickens alone get it done? And would you do something like that to show up the RV spot?
23:51I think even if it's not those exact players, I think that's the right mindset is you package Scadaboo to another team
23:57to upgrade running back and you give them whatever receiver they want.
24:01Knowing that you can get a good or a better running back in return.
24:05I know running back that I've really liked buying in dynasty is Javante Williams because he's 26 years old.
24:10He just signed a new contract with the Dallas Cowboys and his dynasty value price is still very palatable.
24:16So that might be a move that you could make where you send Scadaboo and Pickens for Javante and something else.
24:22Maybe that could work as an option or, or aim higher for a different running back, Brees Hall.
24:27Again, he's still young. He's on the jets, which sucks, but he's also good.
24:32So that also means you can probably get him at a decent bargain or Scadaboo and Fanon as well because you have Tyler Warren.
24:39So you trade a tight end on the Browns.
24:41Maybe that's another option too, but Scadaboo plus something to upgrade running back.
24:45I think is probably the main message. And then you having Mendoza for this, I would request you change your team name to the Mendoza effect.
24:53If you could do that in honor of this episode, please.
24:56Just a little request from me. Um, all right, next up really him.
25:00What's up, dude? What's up, fellas? Can you hear me?
25:03Yeah, we got you good, man. Alrighty. I am in a 12 team super flex league.
25:07I thought I drafted an IR player. Turns out I did not.
25:11So now I need to make a two for one.
25:14Do you think it's a complete overpay to trade Jordan Addison and Kenny Gainwell for Ashton Chinty?
25:19If I can get him. Say it again. Addison and who?
25:22Uh, Kenneth Gainwell. No, that is a great deal.
25:25If you can do that. Who is he getting?
25:27Ashton Chinty. Oh my God. Yeah. Sorry. I don't know why my brain couldn't process that.
25:32Uh, yeah. 100%. Yeah. Do that all day long.
25:35By the way. What other, uh, running back targets could I look at?
25:39Ashton Chinty. None. Because you're not going to get a better running back for those.
25:43Yeah. There's no other better deals you'll get for the, than that for those two guys.
25:48Yeah. So if you have that deal, take it.
25:50By the way, is your avatar, uh, Mike McDaniels with a tattoo over his head?
25:55Yeah. It says chargers on his forehead. Okay. All right.
25:58I like that. Hold up, baby. Post Malone or something in there.
26:01That's hilarious. All right. Good one. Uh, Chinzer, come on down.
26:04I've got my homework completed and ready to turn in.
26:07Excellent. Uh, then come up to the board and, uh, present to the class please.
26:12All right. This is the 14 team where we went three wide receivers to start.
26:16Okay. So I put it in the chat. This is the mock, right?
26:20Or is this like, this is the real thing?
26:23No, this was the, this was the draft. This was the actual draft.
26:26Okay. Let's go. You want me to read it off?
26:29All right. Um, the wide receiver, the wide receivers you got ridiculous.
26:33You got Puka, neighbors, flowers, and a Watson. So what is the rest of this going to look like?
26:38Uh, quarterback, you got golf and Malik. So you went really late running backs.
26:42You got Dave Montgomery, Ramond, Ray, Bill, Jordan Mason, and Samson.
26:46And at tight end, you got craft and Chikokonkwo.
26:48So. Which, uh, Davis is that Isaiah Davis? No, Ray Davis.
26:52Ray Davis. Okay. So you got, I mean, Monty's a legit starter.
26:55You got it, but okay. So you definitely struggled at running back.
26:59Uh, your wide receivers are so sick. This is, did you say this is full PPR?
27:03Yeah, it is. Okay. Uh, I think the thing that stands out, I would be very curious at where you took craft,
27:10what quarterback or running back was floating out there that I might've sacrificed a little bit better.
27:15Like if I were doing this build, one thing I would have liked is to be like a higher end on an
27:21R one RB or higher end, maybe on like a top quarterback.
27:25I mean, I guess in theory you did get a higher tight ends.
27:29You did get one of those other positions, but I think for the most part, like this is a, it's not a best case scenario.
27:36It's a pretty damn good scenario. You've got some really good builds on the running backs and Mason and bill that could work out for you.
27:44If Malik does what a lot of us think he could do, you've got a good combo.
27:48I mean, yeah, I would say like, if I were grading this, I'd want to grade this like a, a B plus.
27:55I think I've been giving out a lot of B plus is not a lot of A's lately, but maybe it should be better.
28:02Erickson. What do you think about this build? Knowing that we went heavy, heavy wide wide receivers are awesome.
28:08And there's no doubt about that. What do you like about the pieces around it though?
28:12I think it's a good build in terms of your punching or punting off the running back position, overloading at other spots.
28:19So I like it. I like the quarterbacks golf and Malik Wilson.
28:22That's a really good combo. If you're going late at the position craft has a lot of upside.
28:28This was 14, right? Yeah. Okay. So it's good.
28:30So 14 is always going to be this because this is every roster has a hole in a 14 team week.
28:36You all know that it's different from like a 12 team or a 10 team where everyone is stacked.
28:42It's, it's, it's always funny how you can always tell, Oh, this must be a multi or a larger league.
28:48Cause there's more of a glaring hole. So, um, I mean, some of the running backs, like I don't like personally, I'm like, I'm not Dave Montgomery.
28:56I like Rashad white over Ja'Cory cross ski merit.
28:58I like Jordan Mason. I like Dylan Sampson. Ray Davis is a really good handcuff.
29:03So directionally I would have picked some other running backs, but the idea of where you got these running backs in those ranges, I think is fine.
29:11The only other comment I would make, and this is something that fits brought up.
29:15I think on the tailgate show. Well, so you guys did earlier this week, uh, Tyler loop might not be like a kicker that you can rely on.
29:23I'm correct me if I'm wrong. Um, so you might need to address that as I have found out from that show.
29:30And one of the comments on X, when I posted my wife's team where we drafted Tyler loop and someone said he might not be on the roster.
29:38And I said, Oh no, what's happening? Oh no.
29:41What will you do if you can't have the kicker?
29:44We have to say, Hey, I'm just saying, get ahead of it now.
29:47So you have to don't have a bad kicker in week one.
29:51Agreed. And you'll, you'll be fine on there. If this were a 12 team, I would probably be giving this a B minus.
29:58Uh, but the context of it being a 14 team, I think this has got to be into the B plus and your wide receivers.
30:05If they just do their job, it's going to carry you a whole bunch.
30:09I can understand the idea of like, maybe some of the pieces of the wide receivers are the running backs.
30:15Aren't like of love. I'm a little, I become indifferent about Montgomery.
30:18Remondry is cool. I just thought you, you pick the right next round of guys.
30:23I'll tell you one guy I would have loved on this team, but this is a me thing is Jonah Coleman.
30:29Like if I'm playing like heavy wide receiver, but again, that's like more personal preference.
30:33Like if I would have seen instead of, um, you know, Samson or, um, I guess you don't have any other wide receivers.
30:40I just would have liked to have seen like a Jonah Coleman, like a guy that has this like crazy upside to get as a starter.
30:48But I just like, I like what you did overall.
30:51Craft is great. You did good with the running backs in a 14 team.
30:55Did you, what did, uh, the fantasy pros, uh, did you do draft assistant and did it spit out a grade?
31:01No, I haven't done that. I need to run through that.
31:04Yeah. Well, if you'd like some extra credit on your, uh, your progress report, go put it in and let us know what it says.
31:12We'll do, uh, on craft for week one, are we right?
31:15And seeing if the snap share comment was legit or would you do chig?
31:19Ooh, craft just our craft. Oh, crap. He's got the, uh, I mean, the Eagles is it's way tougher.
31:24So I mean, even if he's playing more, we don't even know how productive he'll even potentially be.
31:30Yep. Uh, just like if you've got drafts going on, I've kind of been mentioning this before.
31:35You can use draft assistant also after the fact that it can, you know, give you information about what the spider chart looks like.
31:42Maybe some things you could have done where analysts like it.
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32:25How's it going guys? Good man. How you doing?
32:27Uh, good. First of all, I can't believe we're talking about the Mandela effect and nobody mentioned Shazam.
32:33That's like the most popular one. And I refuse to believe that doesn't exist.
32:37The wait, you mean the shack wasn't Shazam? No, it was a movie with Sinbad or Sinbad, Sinbad.
32:42That's right. Yeah. It never exists. It never was a thing.
32:45It does not exist. Cause it was the shack one was a steel.
32:49I was am. Was it cause it was cause am.
32:52Oh my God. Yeah. And then I thought there was another one and along with every other millennial, my age, probably that,
32:58uh, thought that was a real thing. The Sinbad is a really, really good one.
33:03Very, very good call. Yeah. So that, that is a crazy one.
33:06Yeah. But anyways, um, so I am in a 12 man, uh, standard scoring league.
33:11I had the first overall pick and I picked Gibbs, um, little light on running back and the benches are very shallow.
33:17Um, last time I had the first overall pick, I picked David Johnson and he got hurt obviously and destroyed my season.
33:24I ended up last place. So I may have a little PTSD from that, but the long, the short version of it
33:30is, should I drop Jonah Coleman to pick up his handcuff and Jacob's sailors or should I just roll the dice?
33:36Who? Oh, oh. Who's handcuff? Gibbs is handcuff. You mean?
33:39Yeah. Sorry. Do we know who that is? I was pretty sure that Campbell came out and said that sailors would be
33:46the guy, but Pacheco is still there when he's banged up.
33:49I don't know. I, I, I think that that's not the move to make.
33:53I think that he is the guy in the moment right now that they'll give one week of work to, and then
33:59they would immediately think, okay, let's go in a different direction.
34:03Cause they could go outside. They could bring in, they could trade for James Connor.
34:07Like there are so many other avenues where I don't like investing in running backs, handcuffs that are super fringe.
34:13That just seems like a super fragile bet. I don't know if you agree, agree or disagree with me Welsh, but like, I'm just taking Jonah Coleman.
34:21He's better. Couldn't say no against that any harder.
34:23I get the logic of it. I mean, I think the same thing, cause I got the name wrong, but I think
34:30the same thing kind of exists maybe to a slightly more degree or larger degree because McCaffrey gets hurt.
34:35But like, I thought it was gonna be Jordan James, but they just announced it's Keon Black.
34:40That's the thing. Like we don't even know. I think the last thing Shanahan said was, I think someone asked him who is your number to running back?
34:49And he's like, we're still figuring it out. Yeah.
34:51Well, it looked like it was Jordan James. Then the depth chart that they just posted said Keon Black, but there's no sell.
34:58My point to that, cause we got asked about it in a live stream and I said Jordan James, but regardless of
35:05that, if McCaffrey were go down, I think both of those guys would be doing it.
35:09And Debo. And Debo. Exactly. That's the thing. So, and or they go and get a guy like you're talking about.
35:15I think it is without question. If, if Gibbs were to go down, what you said, go trade for James Connor, look for depth in another spot.
35:23They're bringing in players. It's a disaster, especially when you're going against a guy like Jonah Coleman, who, you know, maybe people are getting tired of it.
35:31Cause there's, you know, there's some, there's a handful of industry people that believe it.
35:36I am affirmative about it that I think by mid season, Jonah Coleman has this job and I want to make that
35:42bet and I want to roster him everywhere. So I would rather that than like, like, you know, you know, who's a handcuff.
35:49That's real tank Bixby. That's what if Saquon Barkley goes down and tank Bixby gets that job, I'm telling you think Bixby
35:55is a top 12 running back in fantasy. If it is just him, like that's, that's the level of like why he's
36:02to me, one of the most important actual true.
36:04You could look at Blake Corum being like one of that, but he gets like real value.
36:09Those are a couple of the guys that like are true handcuffs that I care about.
36:14Not, uh, you know, whoever the hell is doing it for Gibbs or whatever.
36:18I mean, especially with a player like Jacob sailors, very unknown commodity.
36:22Basically just being thrust into a new role. When there's a chance of Pacheco comes back, they can make a trade.
36:28I know they really like Sian Vahki as well, but he's just banged up.
36:32So I don't think it's worth it to stash a guy that getting worst case scenario gives us to go down first number one.
36:39And then we don't even know what this guy is going to be able to do.
36:44I don't know how much of this guy even played.
36:47I didn't even know his name before he said it.
36:50I didn't. Uh, but, but you know what though?
36:52It's totally understandable. The PTSD of it. Like when, when you get screwed like that, like what a member Barry you threw
36:59at us way dropping a David Johnson in there.
37:01But like that totally happens. You're like, Oh, he's in this spot.
37:05I did this and it blew up in my face.
37:08Like it's totally understandable. We're not. And, and, and hopefully you don't take it.
37:12Like we're being critical of how we were saying it.
37:15We're just so affirmatively against it, but it's totally understandable why you felt that way.
37:19And it's a great question. I'm glad you brought it in here.
37:23It's a safe space for us to talk about that, but no keep Jonah Coleman.
37:27And, uh, you know, if after a couple of weeks you feel weird about it and waivers, I mean, also we don't
37:34know the other reason behind all of that is like, you just never know if, um, regardless if you were doing the
37:40sailor stuff, there could be a running back that goes down, another running back that goes down and there's a guy sitting
37:47on waivers that you're going to want to be aggressive on early in the season.
37:51Yeah. If anything, you want to leave, to be honest, like you're the David Johnson thing is real and the effect that
37:57has on you, but you're also being realistic where Gibbs has to smash and you'll win your fantasy league.
38:03And if he doesn't, you're probably not going to win anyway.
38:06So unfortunately it played out for you in the, in the bad way the first time around.
38:11So I wouldn't let hold that against you. I would just lean into Gibbs being a monster.
38:16The next let me lean Tomlinson 30 touchdown season loading.
38:19And hopefully you don't get the David Johnson run out.
38:22And brother, if Gibbs goes down, you in like 12 billion other people are going to, you know, hate me hating football together.
38:29He's also mentioning the chat. Remember they had cream hunting for a visit.
38:33Yeah. Good point. So like that just totally nukes the sailors pick.
38:36Dude. I love David Johnson living in Arizona. I'm not a Cardinals fan at all.
38:41I hate on them. I think they'll lose every game this year, but like, I loved watching David Johnson, but the original David Johnson, Larry centers.
38:48Wait, what do we, do we officially establish the birdwatch thing?
38:51The first of the Falcons or Cardinals to win a game in 2020.
38:55Oh yeah. Well, it's going to be the Falcons.
38:58We've got a segment on, on tailgate. Birdwatch. I like that.
39:01Have the Falcons or Cardinals won a game? If we could get that kid.
39:05Have you seen that kid? That's incredible at bird sounds.
39:08We just get here and like, and just like, we can have amazing graphics.
39:12Can you do a bird sound? What are you doing?
39:15Well, we didn't hear anything. You were just making faces.
39:18Give me your best bird sound real quick. I can't.
39:21Bird sound. I don't know. It's great. I go like that.
39:24That's a bird. Okay. And then how about a Turkey?
39:27Like, I can do the angels in the outfield thing.
39:30It's a great bird. It's a really great bird.
39:33This is what happens on the show. Especially. We just get, we hang out with people.
39:37We get loopy and stuff. Mowgli. What's up, dude?
39:40Hey guys. I'm in this massive 40 team draft.
39:43And we have four, we have four 10 team drafts.
39:46So it's all separate. And it seems like the trend has been going heavy RB early.
39:50But I remember Pat Fitzmore saying that wide receiver isn't as deep as we think it is with all the two tight ends that's coming in.
39:58And with these bigger leagues, it seems like you have to go against what everybody else is doing.
40:03And when I looked around, I'm the only one that has a heavy wide receiver set.
40:08And I drafted Bijan at the two spot. AJ Brown fell to me in the second.
40:13Olave in the third. I took Loveland in the fourth.
40:16With Zay and, uh, Zay Flowers and Christian Watson following that up.
40:19Love it. Um, the, I have Tootin as my RB2 and Brooks and Henderson backing them up.
40:24So the analyzer said that if I were to trade Bijan back to Jamar Chase, just one spot, I would go up about 5%.
40:31And that just feels wrong. But I'd be going so much deeper into that advantage where everybody else has gone the other way.
40:38So I, I kind of want to know how far do I push my advantage there?
40:43And then if I trade off a couple of the bottom guys, say like Watson or Dubes or, and maybe get a
40:49middle of the pack running back, or do I stick with Bijan and just kind of ride that out?
40:55Let's stop for a second. Um, you're okay. Cause it was a very funny ride.
40:59You took us on, you're like a 40 man league and Erickson were like, I were like, what?
41:04And then you're like, but it's four 10 man leagues.
41:07So what is the context of the, cause you were comparing it against all the others.
41:12Is it like 10 weeks and then everybody goes like, just explain that.
41:16So we have an understanding of how I assume that there's duplicate players, right?
41:20Yes. There's four of each player. And what we'll do is we'll, we'll play everybody in our draft.
41:25And then we play weeks, uh, 10, 11, and 12 against the draft pick in all the other leagues.
41:31And then it sets up just like the NFL has it, where you have AFC with seven playoff teams and it works
41:37its way out the same way as the NFL does it.
41:40And so essentially what he is suggesting is getting to the playoff pools.
41:44He will have a roster that is different from everyone else's because it's so much wide receiver heavy versus the running back heavier teams.
41:51And that's what helps separate him. So very much a Ricky Bobby, your first, your last kind of like a best ball
41:58kind of tournament strategy a little bit here where everyone is zigging.
42:01He is zagging so that all he has to do is get to the final and his roster would just be different.
42:08So while everyone is relying out. Yeah. Yes. So I like that idea of leaning into that.
42:13My only question with the Bijan versus chase, which I'm more open to that conversation.
42:17Can you like, who are you not starting then?
42:20Because it's only a 10 team league. Does this mean like Zay flowers is now just like a bench guy or was a wide receiver in a flex?
42:28It's three wide receiver in a flex. So it'd probably be Watson.
42:31If I made that trade, it'd be Watson probably getting pushed off.
42:35But. And then you're starting. And then you're starting tootin is your one.
42:39And then your two is what? Like either Travion or Jonathan Brooks.
42:42Yeah. Yeah. But I also have extra wide receivers to trade for maybe a middle of the pack RB to somewhere L.
42:49Did you say it's just like if. Yes. Full PPR.
42:52Okay. I guess for me, it's like if you're thinking about then trading for another running back, then you should have just kept a Bijan.
42:59You know what I mean? Does that make sense?
43:02Like I would rather be trading for Bijan than an RB2 because RB2 is the most replaceable spot in your lineup.
43:08Yeah. And let me throw this at you as well.
43:11Could you take one of those replaceable wide receivers or a Watson and then maybe a Tootin and upgrade their wide receiver?
43:17Do you get what I'm throwing at you? Like, could you take you think your league you could take Tootin and Watson
43:24and push up and get a Drake London? You know, I mean, I guess it's 10 man league, so people probably value depth less.
43:31But like, could that be an approach where you upgrade a really great wide receiver there?
43:35And then now you're putting out Bijan and be in the second running back instead of Tootin is now Travion or Jonathan Brooks.
43:42Or do you think that's just not possible in your league?
43:45Probably not. The way that they, they attacked running back is they're going to probably hold on to him.
43:51So I, yeah. Okay. Well, I mean, you're asking for a wide receiver in that one because you're trading, but you're trading
43:57a running back, but I kind of get what you're saying.
44:01I would just, I mean, I would keep Bijan.
44:03And I still like, I mean, just because you have Bijan doesn't mean that your receivers aren't still good.
44:09Right. And the fact that he was talking about, okay, well, once I make this trade, then I'll trade for a worse
44:15running back with, with all the wide receivers I have.
44:18When again, making another bird analogy, just take the bird in hand with you already have Bijan.
44:23So don't make another trade if you don't have to, if you're just going to be looking for a running back anyway.
44:30So I would stay put and just embrace having Bijan as your hero RB still loaded at wide receiver across the board.
44:36So that's, that's my approach and full PPR still is great for Bijan.
44:40Yeah. I mean, I think there's also, I mean, there's a little bit of a value thing.
44:45And like, I understand that the trade analyzer said that, but like, there's like this structural like value of like one, two,
44:51three, and how much more of an advantage they kind of are that I guess what I'm trying to say is I
44:58don't think I a hundred percent agree that it's like a 5% more boost or whatever for getting chase over Bijan.
45:04Like I'm not a big fan of zero RB builds, like true zero RB.
45:08I like the hero build here. You have this running back that is going to carry you.
45:13You did a great job at wide receiver. I do understand the pivot, but maybe the pivot is more important to look at mid season.
45:20Maybe you try to make that trade a little bit later when, you know, someone else is losing a wide receiver.
45:27So, you know what I'm saying? Like if you want to play that pivot game, maybe you need to attack that in week three or four.
45:34Um, then doing that against Bijan because Bijan and like, I'm taking Bijan over chase.
45:39It's a really interesting strategy question. It's a very interesting league, totally different take.
45:43I love the idea of it. And I think you're on the right track.
45:47I think we both agree though, that we're running out Bijan, but I totally get it.
45:52Kind of a cool format. We do similar things like that.
45:55Sometimes here at pros in those leagues where you have the all play and you want to have the, not, not the same players and stuff like that.
46:03That's, that's kind of fun. That's interesting. All right.
46:06A couple more here. We got a couple more people in the queue.
46:09Uh, Frankie, Frankie love that. I click it properly.
46:12What's up, Frankie. If you come on down, there you go.
46:15What up? You guys hear me? Yeah, we got you, man.
46:19Uh, yeah. Sorry. I'm out of work and listen to you guys.
46:22Um, all good. Yeah. I, uh, I was wondering, um, a couple of weeks ago, I asked you for advice, but now
46:29I got the picks in, uh, what, what place I was going to be at on these two leagues.
46:34So I'm pick five and a 12, 12 man, two flex.
46:37Uh, and, um, and then in the super flex, you guys answered.
46:41I was, and now I'm pick eight. Um, I was thinking about, I mean, the typical, yeah, you, you do whatever receiver
46:47falls to you in the first, uh, uh, 12 man, um, uh, regular PPR.
46:51But, uh, would I be crazy if I, uh, go for the next best running back and go, cause I feel like
46:58the running backs, the way the guys are, they're going to go to back to back running back.
47:03And then unless I might get lucky with a Ken Walker to drop or I'm going to be looking at maybe chase
47:10Brown as my number one running back and not saying that I don't like them.
47:14I mean, I just, I just, that'll be my RB one.
47:17So you're pretty much having the decision to like Ken Walker slash chase Brown or like a Justin Jefferson.
47:23Yeah. Yeah. Maybe. Or just go to two receivers in that league.
47:26And if it's best available and then on the third round, just hopefully get a Javante Williams or something to maybe drop
47:33to me and, and then just, just, just play by ears.
47:36And I don't want to go like you guys were just talking about.
47:40I don't want to go zero, zero RV and at the count on somebody like Jonathan Brooks or something to possibly be
47:46my RB two or RB possibly a one by the end of the year.
47:50I'm trying to get a, I still like, I like to go out the running backs, but I didn't land in that position.
47:57I landed in five, how we chose, but to the super flex, I'm the number eight.
48:02I was thinking about not even just doing best available.
48:05Like I, if I can get like a, you know, top receiver or get a lucky with a running back, but people go quarterback heavy.
48:12That, that was my route with that. I was looking, doing a lot of mocks and laying a lot of drafts through your guys.
48:19Uh, you know, uh, through fantasy pros. And I noticed that, uh, you know, my teams weren't looking bad with a bow next and Baker Mayfield.
48:27I mean, I just don't know what your opinion on that either.
48:30Yeah. Okay. So hold on for a back. Yeah.
48:33There's a lot there. You got to stop for a second.
48:36The first part I'm now confused. I thought you said the normal PPR, you were eight and you were thinking about.
48:42No, no, I'm five. So you want to take a Ken Walker or something over a wide receiver at five.
48:48No, he, he wants to take a, here, I think I understand.
48:52So he wants to want, he's wondering if he should take a running back like Taylor or cook instead of a wide
48:58receiver or take the receiver and then take chase Brown or Ken Walker in round two.
49:03Okay. Okay. The eight, which is what I would do.
49:06That's I would take Jonathan Taylor over or chase.
49:08I would take those guys first and then take the running back in round two.
49:13Okay. Me too. Yeah. The super flex was picky of a 12 man.
49:17No, super flex is 10 man. Sorry. 10 man is a super flex.
49:21I was picky. I was going to, my question was, would I be, would it be, would you recommend to get a
49:27top QB or is it okay to punt a little bit and go with like a bow next to Baker Mayfield?
49:33That's my question. Yeah. I would do the latter.
49:36A hundred thousand percent. Yeah. The best player available, whether it's chase B genre Gibbs, because sometimes those guys fall in the
49:42super flex format and you can totally work with those other quarterbacks.
49:46Quarterback is so deep and yeah. It's not even a question in a 10 man.
49:50A hundred percent. First two picks. I'm going to go with best positional players and you're going to have awesome dudes.
49:56And then third, fourth round is where I'll start paying attention to what quarterbacks are out there.
50:01But if there's still two good positional players in a 10 man, you can still do it.
50:06Cause I could live with a golf and what was the, was it?
50:10Chinzer earlier. No, no. I understand that. But like Chinzer was saying he had like Jared Goff and Malik Willis.
50:16I could live with that if I had to, if I had amazing positional players.
50:20It's funny on the new Orleans radio hit, they asked me why I was so low on Tyler shock.
50:26Cause I have met like QB 21. And I was very bluntly honest and said, I got nothing against it.
50:32And it's just, there's a lot of quarterbacks I like this year, which is why he just falls and he lost Jordan Tyson.
50:39That was the only reason why. One less weapon.
50:41A hundred percent. Yeah. So yeah. And then like, maybe it's just my fault.
50:45Again, my brain, I got very lost in the beginning of what he was saying, but it ends up looking like he was the five spot.
50:53We both agree. We're not taking the running back.
50:56We're taking the great wide receiver that falls there, whether it's Puka, JSN or Amon Ra.
51:00One of Puka or JSN or one of yeah.
51:03Puka, JSN, Amon Ra have to be there. And I personally would take Amon Ra unless Puka falls.
51:08Cause I know he sometimes falls. But yeah, I'm taking whichever wide receivers there and I'm not worrying about the running back in that.
51:15All right. Let's do a lightning round on these so we can do our sleepers real quick after Sully.
51:21What's up, dude? Hey guys. Um, my league switched to an extra flex position this year.
51:26Um, so just wanted your guys' opinion on kind of like draft strategy.
51:29I'm guessing kind of like late quarterback. Um, and then kind of just go wide receiver heavy.
51:34Uh, what do you think Erickson? What's the rest of the starting lineup?
51:38If you can throw it in the chat, is it three receivers now, two flexes?
51:43Was there already a flex spot? That's the only question that I would be, uh, interested in.
51:48He's typing in right now. Just so I understand the full scope of the lineup.
51:52I think for me, the onesie positions stand out less basically when there are more starting spots because you have more ground to fill.
51:59So two receivers, two running backs, two flex, one tight end, one quarterback.
52:03So kind of essentially like a three wide receiver, except it can be a running back.
52:07I mean, I think that it makes you just go.
52:10You can do best player available. I guess I wouldn't prioritize elite tight end as much and definitely would be punting quarterback.
52:17Nosti, get these last two and into our sleepers here.
52:20What's up, Nosti? Come on down. What's up? You don't hear me?
52:23Yeah, we got you, man. Mm-hmm. Cool. Um, so I'm in a, uh, 12 team keeper league and I just have a
52:30couple of keeper questions or one keeper question. Uh, it's two keepers.
52:33Um, I'm keeping Kenneth Walker with a third round pick.
52:36And then I have a decision between Igbuka in the fifth or Loveland in the 10th.
52:41Paper. I'm like, Loveland in the 10th seems obvious, but then I'm like, position, scarcity, opportunity cost.
52:46Does Igbuka in the fifth make sense too? I feel like I'm overthinking it with Loveland, not just being in the 10th, but.
52:53Loveland. Yeah. Erickson's not letting you overthink it. Yeah.
52:55I would, I was going to say Igbuka, but then the 10 is too much for Loveland.
53:00So yeah. The thing is you can probably draft Igbuka potentially in the fourth round anyway.
53:05Probably. So maybe you can't get Loveland anywhere near the 10th round.
53:09Yeah. Yeah. No, it's Loveland. That's too good of a deal.
53:12Too good. Uh, Jay Sparks, final one up here.
53:14What you got, dude? What's up guys? You hear me okay?
53:18As very much. I got to stop duty. I'm duding a lot today.
53:21So what is up my friend? Awesome. Um, 12 team full PPR redraft, uh, trade question.
53:26Um, went wide receiver heavy. So looking to upgrade my RB two spot and, um, basically sacrifice on my TV a little
53:33bit, but trade is tootin, which is currently an RB two, um, Kincaid, probably into, and then Jaden Daniels, um, for a Saquon.
53:39I'm just not sure how you guys feel about Saquon this year.
53:43You said single quarterback? Single. Yep. I am. I do that deal.
53:46If you can move, move ponies for a horse.
53:49Well, Daniels and tootin aren't, uh, little ponies. I show ponies there.
53:53I mean, Daniels, I, we talked about Daniels as a potential landmine.
53:56So just getting him off the books kind of seems like, right?
54:00Sweet. I'd rather have Barkley than tootin and Kincaid is just nothing burger.
54:03Yeah. I mean, so I think this is easy.
54:06That's a big upgrade. That is. And I'm not, and I'm not, I'm hardly like the Saquon Barkley guy.
54:12Like I'm lower on him versus consensus, but I acknowledge he's probably going to have a year that's better than last year, but worse than 2024.
54:19And I would rather have that at that price for tootin, Kincaid and Jaden Daniels.
54:24Okie dokie. Uh, great questions from all of you guys.
54:27We appreciate it. That takes us to the final thing in this show.
54:30We are doing our final updated sleepers, final updated sleepers for the year.
54:34Erickson, we did have to make a few changes and there are a few changes on the board.
54:39So we gave it to you in the last episode.
54:42Who are sleepers were, uh, quickly quarterback. Did you make any change to your sleepers?
54:47We both had, I believe Kyler and Malik Willis.
54:49No, I did not change anything. I mean, it's, I'm like so tempted by like guys like golf and Jordan love because
54:56it's like, if they just throw the ball more, you could see with the weapons, but the rushing with these two guys
55:02is too hard to fade in my opinion. And when I look at Kyler too, his schedule is set up really, really well.
55:09If he comes out decent against the green Bay Packers, you don't have Micah Parsons.
55:14He plays the bears in week two. So there's a chance where Kyler is off to a really, really hot start.
55:20And I mean, that's pretty typical of Kyler. So he's my number one.
55:23And Malik Willis because of his rushing is number two.
55:26Let's get tight end out of the way. Did you make any changes?
55:30I, I, Juwan Johnson and Dulcich is my two sleeper tight end.
55:34Did you make any changes there? Uh, I did not make any changes.
55:38I have kept those guys in there. We do have a question about Juwan Johnson over Tucker craft this week in week one from French toast them.
55:46And yeah, I would go Juwan. Honestly, I think that his projection is way safer than Tucker craft for week one.
55:52I'm cool with it. But like Tucker crafts can have two touchdowns in the first week and we're going to be like, Oh dang it.
55:59Like he plays 50 or he plays 50% of the snaps.
56:02And guess what? Like 50% are all going to be in the red zone.
56:06And like in the red zone, it's going to be a hundred percent of those 50% snaps will be in the red zone.
56:13So there's touchdown equity, but if it's full PPR, like Juwan Johnson's going to get targets.
56:18So I'm cool with it, but I'm still Tucker craft running back.
56:21This is where the changes start to happen. I don't know.
56:25I think, uh, I had Jonah Coleman at number one last time you had him at like two or three, and then
56:31you were going to move them up to one.
56:34What is your top four, uh, sleeper running backs look like now?
56:37So Lloyd, it's gotta be number one. That's goes without saying.
56:40Jonah Coleman tank, Bigsby, Dylan Sampson are my four.
56:43Uh, say it again. You did quick. Lloyd was one.
56:46Who was two Lloyd Coleman and Bigsby Dylan Sampson.
56:49Okay. We have the same top two. Lloyd does have to go to one just because like, if Jacobs is out for the season, he gets that run.
56:57I completely agree. Jonah Coleman is still my two because I think Jonah Coleman can take that job.
57:02Um, things kind of open up a little bit.
57:05You said tank Bigsby. I really like that. I, I kind of think tank, I don't know, Barkley goes down.
57:11This is going to blow this away. So I kind of wish I did put them on here, but I got Mike Washington still.
57:18Like I think Mike Washington is just going to get run this year.
57:21Good. I know. I think, cause that's the one guy I struggled to kind of keep off because you have this Ashton Gentry ankle injury thing.
57:29Is it going to go into the season? They're talking about Ashton Gentry or Mike Washington having a role alongside Ashton Gentry.
57:36But then I think about, well, who's better tank tank Bigsby or Mike Washington?
57:40Yeah. And I completely agree. I'm sure tank Bigsby is better.
57:43I do agree with that. I'm pretty sure he's better.
57:46Like, so that's ultimately why I opted for Bigsby, especially because he's the Eagles offense.
57:50And I mean, there were also talks about tank Bigsby having some type of standalone role too.
57:55I know it obviously doesn't hold as much weight as the Mike Washington hive has been, especially with the Gentry injury.
58:01But Barkley's no spring chicken. He's an older running back.
58:04If he gets banged up, I think tank would just be a smash.
58:08So, and I guess I feel like I'm being a little bit different there.
58:12I would imagine tank's not as super highly ranked in a lot of the sleeper rankings compared to Mike Washington.
58:18So kind of like a contrarian approach on what do I win when I win?
58:22If tank does hit, that's a big win for my quote unquote sleeper points.
58:27Yeah. And then kind of in the same vein, my fourth is Caleb Johnson.
58:31I don't like having two backers on here. Put him in there.
58:34Yeah. I think I got him in there because like he was running with ones right out the gate.
58:40If Jacobs is out all year, Lloyd has, I mean, Lloyd's sitting out there just like, I'm just happy to be here.
58:46You know what I mean? He's just like, I haven't played.
58:49I just want to be here. I'll do anything.
58:52Like Caleb Johnson might be a guy that gets run.
58:55So you're the same version of what you just did.
58:58Caleb Johnson's kind of my protection because I don't know if he's going to be on a lot of those lists.
59:04So that's our running back changes. Let's talk about the wide receiver changes.
59:08Did you make any and what is your wide receiver sleepers look like now?
59:12We have four. I did not make any changes.
59:15It's still digs. Shahid, Stribbling, and I'm just going to go down with the ship of Trey Harris, whether it works or not.
59:21So he's just, he's my guy. See what happens.
59:24He's my, but that's why he's number four. Cause he's definitely my light, my least conviction pick, but more of my truth
59:31or status for Trey Harris and his chargers offense.
59:33I made one change and it's my bottom one.
59:36So I still have my four. I've got Stefan Diggs at one.
59:39And Dijon Stribbling at two. Debo Samuel at three.
59:42But my new change is Chris Bell. I think Chris Bell is going to become the number one in that Dolphins offense.
59:48You know, that might still be like wide receiver 40 or something like that at the end of the day.
59:54But I think he's going to be littered with targets.
59:57That's one of my big sleeper guys this year.
60:00And that's going to be my sleeper wide receiver.
60:03So those are the changes. You make any, do you want to give anybody kicker defense type of stuff?
60:08Do you, do you live in that world? Um, I'm kind of like, well, cause the way that the rankings work, you have a certain pool.
60:16The Ravens are the top one. And I, I feel like they're my highest ranked defense.
60:20So I feel like I should put them in there just because I think that they are probably going to score the most points, but I don't know.
60:29I'm just really intrigued by the lions and the fact that they're going to play in a bunch of shootouts and they're
60:35probably going to give up a lot of points, but I feel like they're going to get a lot of turnovers.
60:41I think Hutchinson is going to have a monster season.
60:44So I'll just keep the lions. There'll be bottom five and points allowed, but there'll be top five and turnovers.
60:50And that's all that matters for fantasy. You sneaky, sneaky, little different defensive ranker.
60:54All right, there you go. Uh, that is everything.
60:57Thank you guys for all hanging out with us.
60:59Awesome job on everybody in the audience coming up.
61:02Great questions. Lots of good theory, fun stuff as well.
61:05Yeah, I'm all into the fun for this season.
61:08I'm doing some new different things. You don't think I'm doing Erickson.
61:11I'm doing a touchdown survivor pool, which I'm super excited about.
61:14This made me think, why do you shake your head like that?
61:18You don't, you don't like that? Well, no, no.
61:21I mean, I'm just saying there's going to, there's just so many things that you wanted, that you want to do, like
61:27collectively, like when the games are on, it's just, it's for me, I'm, I'm having trouble, like keeping track of everything.
61:33I'm like, I got to do this. Got to do my survivor.
61:37Got to do the, my flex bet. I got to do all that.
61:41I'm like, oh no, I'm going to run out of time.
61:44I like, I like the uniqueness. And it made me think of, um, I'm forgetting who it was, but the, the guy
61:50that had the 40 man league, uh, was it Frankie?
61:53Maybe, uh, the 40 man league is cool. I like unique different things and I'm kind of digging into some of those
62:00this year by I'm doing a touchdown survivor. I'm interested in doing like a best ball chopped type of league elimination league.
62:06You know what I'm saying? Like those, I want to do a couple of those to kind of add into the fun,
62:13uh, cause it's meant to be fun, man. Have some fricking fun with your season.
62:17We all take it serious, but you have your big home leagues come in and hang out with us.
62:23Let us help you out, but also do some cool, unique, different things.
62:26And that's got me kind of jammed in with it.
62:29And the next time we talk to you, we're going to be talking to you about in season stuff.
62:35We're going to be telling you don't talk about Thursday night football on the next episode, because it'll be next Thursday at 2 PM Eastern.
62:42Hopefully you guys listening on the podcast, come and join us.
62:45Fantasypros.com slash chat is where you can join the discord.
62:48Be in here about a full day before hang out with us, ask your questions, ask your start and sit questions for
62:55week one, as long as it's not Thursday and we'll have a bunch of fun with it.
63:00And hopefully you guys enjoyed that and feel free, drop your Mandela effect things in here.
63:04I know Erickson's so excited. We stopped talking about it, but it's all I'm going to do.
63:09As soon as we get off here, I'm going to be actually doing our fantasy pros elimination draft that I'm in right now.
63:16And by the way, I got Puka, maybe a little dangerous.
63:19I got him at five, but he fell down there.
63:22And if he doesn't play the week one, somehow he were out week one, that would be a big problem, but I'm
63:29going to go with Puka, but I'm going to do this and I'm going to read about Mandela effects.
63:34That's all that I want to do. So hopefully we hear from you guys.
63:39We love you guys. Good luck in your final drafts if you got it this weekend, and we will talk to you
63:45next time right here on fantasy pros. Extra point is good.
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