Target These Second Year RBs ✅ 2026 Fantasy Football
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Jun 10, 2026
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Omarion HamptonKeaton MitchellKimani Vidal
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Keaton Mitchell
PositiveValue0:13
Being drafted in the 5th pick of the 12th round, Mitchell could be a value play if Omarian Hampton gets injured, with explosive plays in his small sample.
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At 40 pounds lighter than Omarian Hampton, Mitchell should not be expected to get goal-line touches, but fits the Mike McDaniel system well for edge runs.
Insight pageKimani Vidal
PositiveRole0:14
Good in pass protection and could be part of a three-back committee with Omarian Hampton and Keaton Mitchell, getting enough touches across different roles.
Insight pageOmarion Hampton
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One of the most physically gifted running backs in the NFL with excellent long speed for a 220-pound back and soft hands out of the backfield.
Insight pageNegativeRole0:09
Had bad pacing and poor vision as a runner, with inconsistent decision-making on hole selection, being both too quick and too late on different reps.
Insight pageNegativeUsage0:10
Rush yards over expected was negative 40% with three or fewer yards to go, but positive 21% with four or more yards, showing he struggles when confined and needs space.
Insight pagePositiveBreakout0:11
Forces a high rate of missed tackles at 0.27 and creates hidden yards through tackle-breaking ability, with exceptional speed and athleticism at 220+ pounds.
Insight pagePositiveMatchup0:12
Moving to Mike McDaniel's offense, which has created space at every stop and had RB5 and RB11 in points per game in 2025 and 2024, with RB3 and RB4 in 2023.
Insight pageNegativeRole0:14
Had poor pass protection technique with whiffs on tape, though he has the physical tools to improve in this area.
Insight pageNegativeBust0:14
Analyst ranks him a couple spots lower than his current ADP due to concerns about trustworthiness on tape and potential committee work with Keaton Mitchell and Kamani Vidal.
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Episode Transcript
0:00Unfortunately for us, the loaded 2025 rookie running back class really never got going. We had horrible situations for Ashen Genty, injuries to the likes
0:09of Amarian Hampton and Cam Scataboo, Quinn Sean Judkins on top of that. And in fact, Hayden, maybe some of the more
0:15promising and surprising moments came from like true seventh rounders out there on the field.
0:21>> Yeah, I thought there was not that much of a gap between the top guys and kind of the next tier of guys. I was kind of
0:26disappointed going back and talking about these guys. That does not mean that they can't be effective fantasy players. I'm trying to like play both
0:32sides of this. We'll get to the fantasy appeal, but also just all right, how close are they to Jir Gibbs and Bejan
0:37Robinson? I think short answer for me is not that close.
0:40>> Interesting. Now, fortunately for us, the 2026 running back class in the NFL draft was horrible. So, all of these guys are going to get at least a second
0:50opportunity, if not a third. And many of them are going extremely early in your fantasy league. At least five of these
0:57names we're going to talk about today, the secondyear breakouts are being selected as top 24 running backs over an underdog at this very moment where you
1:05can draft at this very moment. So, this is important because we're expecting massive strides and a lot of production and full seasons from a lot of these
1:13names when we only got a taste of them last year in uh great situations. So, we dove in, we watched all the snaps, we
1:20watched all the tape. This is the second year breakout week show. Hopefully you tuned in to the tight ends and the
1:26quarterback's episode. And we have wide receivers coming up tomorrow. So hit subscribe and watch this because now Hayden, let's talk about that 12th
1:33overall pick in drafts right now as the running back six despite last season the most forgettable 321 touches you will ever see. Ashen Genty is once again on
1:43our first round radar. What did you see when going back and watching?
1:46>> I thought he was very similar to what he was at at Boise State. He's exceptional at forcing missed tackles once he has a
1:52little bit of space. So once you uh aren't contacted at the line of scrimmage is beyond that. The NFL average is 16 missed tackles per carry.
2:02Ashton Genty's at 29, almost doubles that. And when you watch his tape, there's lots of guys just bouncing off of him at the second level. And even at
2:12the first level when he's hit immediately, I think where maybe I was a little bit disappointed with Ashen Genty is I do think it took him a little bit
2:20longer to kind of get going than what I was hoping for. And I don't think that he has the elite foot quickness of the
2:27real true standout players across the NFL. He's more of your throwback type, which we were expecting here. I thought he was going to have maybe a little bit
2:35more burst out of the gate. Uh I do think there's going to be a lot of changes going on with the Raiders. All
2:40of them positive. He finishes the RB16 on RB11 usage last year. I still have him ranked as the RB9. I think he's
2:46going to get a ton of touches. He can handle it. I think there's more room for growth as a receiver. He flashed a
2:51couple of those downfilled moments uh even during his rookie season. I think there's more to be unlocked there. Uh I just think there's a difference between
3:00some of the other top what 12ish overall selections and recent drafts versus versus Ashton Genty after watching his tape. I >> I'm unmoved based on my opinion of who
3:09he was coming into the league and what he was able to show during his rookie season. I think he'll win in the exact
3:14same ways that I anticipated.
3:16Unfortunately, and what we talk about every single week on this channel with stats versus film, I mean, the vast majority of running back production can
3:23just be totally destroyed by offensive line play and situations that you find yourselves in. And for me, Ashen Genty was easily in the worst of this group.
3:33And that is saying something because some of these running backs were in horrible situations last year. And all you have to do is look towards, you
3:40know, the yards before contact per attempt. Uh that was 6 last year.
3:44averaged 06 yards per carry before he was contacted. And that is, you know, despite breaking uh a ludicrous amount of force missed tackles, as you said,
3:54with his rate, but just overall that number was extremely high at 63. There were plenty of times where he forced a
4:02missed tackle that prevented a three-y loss that only gave him a zero or one yard gain. Uh and so for us on the eye
4:10test, that looks awesome. for the underlying metrics. It absolutely looks horrible. Now, Chip Kelly also, I would say, kind of mismanaged this situation.
4:20Like, when you spend that early of a pick on a player, you can't have some rando subbing in for him uh in pure
4:27passing situations. I understand bring these players and these rookies along slowly, but as the season went along, he did handle 84% of the backfield touches.
4:36That is running back two across the league. So, while I might not rank him as the running back six, while I might
4:42not be drafting him as a 12th pick overall right now, and we can get into the reasons why, >> uh, I still am very optimistic of what
4:50he can be, uh, in a more composed and it just a platform for him to have success in the >> Yeah, I just wanted to play a little bit
4:57faster. I think that's partially just kind of athletically get it going a little bit, but I also thought he was maybe a little bit more indecisive than
5:04I was kind of hoping for. And I think that some of the plays that where he was hit behind the line of scrimmage was on
5:10him just a little bit. Obviously, the overwhelming part of that was just the offensive line. I mean, any of them after Coltton Miller was out of there,
5:16all five spots were brutal. The tight ends weren't blocking very well. On top of that, I thought there was scheme issues. Uh, you just really felt him
5:23going at that second level when he had some space. He's just too thick to to tackle. I think it's like kind of as
5:29simple as that. He runs really hard. I thought he had really nice hands throughout the season, too. Uh we thought Mike Washington's an interesting
5:36prospect behind him. He's going to be I think a low volume almost Raheem Moer kind of change of pace guy off this off
5:43the uh off the edge. And I do think that Ashen Genty's Bellcow profile here is absolutely going to translate. So I'm in
5:50the middle of the second round for fantasy purposes. I have no questions about his ability to handle the workload, catch passes, do all that type
5:56of stuff. I just think if you're the Raiders, do you have Jir Gibbs or Bjan Robinson in your backfield right now? I
6:02just think you don't. That's a strong statement based on where he was drafted.
6:05Uh I want to give him a season of having just more opportunities to show that second level stuff because Jir Gibbs got
6:13that immediately. Bejan Robinson got that immediately uh based on their landing spots and his running style is different than those guys. But just what
6:19I love so much coming out of Boise State was it's not just he was able to force one miss tackle and pick up and create
6:25extra yards on his own. He like chained those moves together once he got to defensive backs, once he got to like the
6:31third and fourth level. And so, and this is more difficult to do in the NFL, but that allowed, you know, 16 yard gains to
6:38go for 50 yard gains. And he's not going to reel those off at the same rate. But that was like a rare combo of uh
6:44stamina, like tackle breaking stamina in the same run. And then just six runs later, he was able to do the exact same
6:50at. And that's going to be more difficult once again in the NFL. But, uh, I I just want him to have like the
6:56legit opportunity of getting to the second and third level untouched more.
6:59>> Yeah. I wonder if he's gonna have like a Josh Jacobs level career, which I I think is a probably the baseline
7:04outcome. I think that you're hoping he has more Jonathan Taylor, Derek Henry, uh Saquon Barkley in him. I just think that he doesn't quite hit that
7:12threshold. Josh Jacob is one of my favorite running backs to watch. I think he's going to have a way better season
7:17this year. So, it's not like I'm really concerned about Ash and Jensy. I just think, you know, the ROI, I think we're
7:22going to look back and be like, that that was pretty tough. You know, so often when a head coach gets his first
7:27time as a head coach after just being a play caller, we like to copy paste what they did in their previous stop and say,
7:32"Well, this is just what he's going to do uh here at his new location." So, we know Clint Kubak last year he had Kin
7:38Walker who's being drafted right around Rashen Gentia in this like legit cluster of eight straight running backs on underdog at this moment. Everywhere from
7:46James Cook down to Derrick Henry and then you had Zack Charbanet as the backup. So, uh, we know Mike McDonald wanted their rotation to keep those guys
7:55healthy throughout the entire season. Do you think that Ashen Genty has a chance of getting the 75% workload, which is a
8:04lot more than what Kin Walker, Zack Sharney had last year, but actually less than what he had during his rookie season?
8:09>> Yeah, I mean, I would put Gent's chances of handling the as big of a workload as anybody in the whole league. Like, I I I
8:16think it's as simple as that. And that's why he has such an incredible floor.
8:20Like for how terrible everything went around him, he was still the RB16 last year, which is like obviously not what you wanted. That was when the worst
8:27situation ever. So like in terms of the floor, his is as high as anybody's.
8:32>> Let's talk about someone in that cluster of running backs. Uh running back nine drafted right now, the third pick of the
8:37second round. This is Omar Hampton with the LA Chargers. turned 156 touches into 737 total yards and five touchdowns last
8:49year. Uh now he goes from a Greg Roman offense into a Mike McDaniel offense.
8:54What did you like and dislike when going back and watching him?
8:57>> There's definitely two sides of the equation. I think he's one of the most physically gifted running backs in the NFL, like point blank period. His long
9:03speed is really, really good for somebody that's 220 pounds. I thought he had really soft hands out of the back field, so he's not like super
9:10one-dimensional. I think he has the profile to eventually become a bellcow back, but he also needs some like very real development in my opinion. I
9:19thought he had bad pacing as a runner. I thought his eyes as a runner were also pretty lackluster. I thought he was uh
9:25pretty late on some reps and then I thought he was too quick picking a hole on others. It was kind of all over the
9:31place. Obviously, the Chargers offensive line did very few favor favors.
9:35Hopefully, that's better with both the tackles hopefully healthy. Uh Tyler Bottish is definitely a better center.
9:39So you have the ingredients where this thing could actually look right. And when he got to the second level, I mean,
9:44it was outrageous. He had a couple reps against the Giants where like he turns the corner. It's like, okay, that guy
9:48should not be running that fast. And then on other reps, he's dragging Giants uh for like 10 yards at a time just
9:55putting the team on his back. So you really like some of the stuff. I just think in general, one stat to before I
10:00kick it to you, Hampton's rush yards over expected, negative 40% with three or fewer yards to go. and then on four
10:06or more yards to go plus 21%. So this like success rate if you will is way different when he has more space once
10:14things kind of got confined and up the middle. He was just not nearly as good.
10:18Partially offensive line I do think partially Omar and Hampton.
10:20>> I was going to ask you that and you kind of explained it. What do those two very different outcomes tell you about him as
10:27as a player? is that hey when he kind of runs into brick walls when he has to be extremely decisive uh as soon as he
10:35angles immediately that maybe it can be a bit lackluster in terms of his production and his outcome in those versus hey when you give him a bit of
10:43space which we'll talk about the Mike McDaniel facet of this then uh whoa baby we've got something uh that is different
10:49about him.
10:50>> I think that's exactly right. I thought his vision wasn't good enough. So when you have to, you know, pick up three
10:54yards at a time and every little second matters, then it's it's you kind of get hurt by him. And then when you have more
10:59space and he's out running everybody, that's like an extra like 40 yards that another running back would not have gotten. So like, of course, the success
11:05rate is not always going to be super high on those, but he makes enough big plays where you can really dream of an
11:10upside. And that's just as a as a rusher. I do think there's plenty of elements as a receiver where he gets the
11:15ball cleanly out and swing passes, and on those plays, he can go up the sideline, too. his profile was very similar at North Carolina as I thought
11:22it was as a rookie. Like you you talked about the speed. I'll also talk about the weird tackle breaking where like on
11:28final contact he twists and turns and you know puts his body towards the defender and always wants these final moments to fight for extra yards. It
11:37leaves him open and susceptible to these massive weird hits that you don't see at the NFL very often. But at the same time
11:44he also again forces a high rate of missed tackles. I think it was 027. Uh, and then creates a bunch of hidden yards
11:51because of it. He's just a different type of player and I would even say he's more athlete than running back at this
11:56time in terms of his vision, his feel for space, setting up lanes, and all that type of stuff. So, I have some not
12:04real concerns about him as a true runner, just like things that aren't perfect and aren't ideal when you go through the running back checklist. But
12:11then I just look at the situation that he's freaking in and the size of 220 plus pounds with the speed that he has
12:18attached now to Mike McDaniel who in 2025 had the running back five in points per game, running back 11 in points per
12:25game in 2024. And then we go back three seasons ago to 2023 had both the running back three and running back four in
12:33points per game. So I asked myself, does it really even matter what qualms I have and what holes could potentially be in
12:40his profile if everything goes according to plan here? Because you have a play caller, a play designer in Mike McDaniel who has created space at every stop he
12:51has been in, has a great blocking scheme for that to really utilize a center and offensive tackles. And you your guards
12:59don't have to be perfect, which they aren't here for the Chargers because he can still be highly, and I mean highly
13:05productive if he remains the guy, the lead guy in this back.
13:09>> Yeah, they're just going to get him off off and running on the edge. And that's exactly what he did for Miami for all
13:14those years as well. And we saw that with Shanahan at times, too. Depending on what style running back they have, I
13:18do think that Keith Mitchell does a lot of the same things that we used to. ask you that because like >> right right right right right right
13:24right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right now on fantasy football Twitter there's a lot of I am
13:27fading Omar and Hampton because of Katon Mitchell and Katon Mitchell has been like the apple of fantasy Twitter's eye for a very long time and I get it in
13:35like the small sample of touches that he has he explodes he fits in this type he has the juice and that is 100% correct
13:42but we know he's a couple years removed now from a significant injury the Ravens could have kept hold of him for very
13:49little and they chose not to and he wound up in the ideal situation for his talents. So, what is the likelihood that this even
13:57turns into a 50-50 split or that Amaran Hampton like, you know, doesn't just have this outright lead on the backfield?
14:04>> Well, the good news is Katon Mitchell's like 40 lbs lighter than Amarian Hampton. So, at the goal line, we should
14:08expect Omar Hampton to get all those touches. I do think that we should not discount Kamani Vidal because Kamani Vidal is good in pass protection and I
14:16could see this being like a threeback committee to some degree. I thought Omarian Hampton's head was kind of spinning uh in pass protection. I
14:24thought that he was he has like the mask to do it, but he is just like trying to light guys up and then there's a lot of
14:30whiffs in pass protection on his tape.
14:32So, and I I do think that they like Kamani Vid Doll. So, I do wonder if this is almost like three guys with three
14:38kind of different profiles and all of them are going to get enough touches. It just comes down to like how potent is
14:43this McDaniel's offense going to be with Justin Herbert and are they going to throw the ball more than we typically see with McDaniel's offense because they
14:50have Justin Herbert instead of Tua. So I think like the big concern for me is just if Keaton Mitchell's doing a lot of
14:56the the the stuff on the ground that we like and he's kind of trusted uh even on small volume there is like some pressure
15:03Omar and Hampton does have to step his game up to have this crazy ceiling. Like the ceiling very obvious. I do think the
15:09guys he's being drafted next to, they just have much better floors. So, I'm actually a couple spots lower on Omarian Hampton fully acknowledging he can
15:17finish as like the 104 this year. Uh, and I love the Chargers offense. I just was wishing that Amarian Hampton offered
15:24maybe a little bit more trustworthiness on tape and I'm not sure if we we got that solved.
15:28>> Yeah, if he fails, it's for the reasons that we brought up, you know, so I I shouldn't just, you know, shoe those
15:33away as an outcome here. I believe it's just far likelier that the first round pick from last season that the head
15:40coach and general manager are still attached to this team that selected him there who had some real moments and still creates yards on his own and now
15:47goes into a scheme that probably accentuates his strengths and minimizes his weaknesses.
15:52>> Yes.
15:52>> To hold on to the job, you know, >> in some level he is like Katon Mitchell but plus 20 pounds, you know.
15:58>> Exactly. Uh now there's also an outcome where both of these guys are actually good values and it's weird to say that
16:05about someone who is the fifth pick of the second round in Marin Hampton and then like the fifth pick of the 12th
16:10round which uh Keaton Mitchell is at this point and again we just have to look back to 2023. I mean the Dolphins
16:17and this would be a tremendous outcome here for the Chargers. The Dolphins that year were second best in terms of points
16:24for per game at 29.2 to and again that was a running back three and running back four in points per game with Raheem
16:31Mosert and Devon Achan. Now Achan had a whole bunch of yards. He had a whole bunch of receptions and Raheem Moser
16:38went absolutely nuclear in terms of inside the 10 and inside the 15 yard line in terms of scoring touchdowns like the most since John Rigggins I believe
16:47of a 30 plus year old. But Hayden, if you look across the league and you stack quarterback and skilled players and
16:54offensive tackles and offensive line and play caller, >> I think there's a pathway for the Los Angeles Chargers to score the second
17:00most points in the league this year.
17:02>> Yeah, ultimately with my Omaran Hampton takeaway, it's I can nitpick this thing, but it's just a dangerous game to nitpick this. So, I think he's firmly a
17:09second round pick. He should not be at the round one two turn. I do think, you know, Omarian Hampton hopefully turns
17:14into Derrick Henry and Dererick Henry gets selected after him. So, I think we can nitpick a couple draft picks overall here. This is the general range uh that
17:23he belongs in. And I do think that Katon Mitchell can pay off his ADP more in baseball because it'd be hard to predict
17:28when he's going to have his 40 yard touchdowns, but I do think they are coming. Keep in mind though, Katon Mitchell has one career game over 10
17:35carries. So, like as excited as we can get here, the baseline outcome is Katon Mitchell averages seven carries, Omar Hampton gets 14, and then he catches
17:45some passes and gets the goal line work.
17:47and then all all of a sudden he's like a low-end RB1. So, I think that's my baseline expectation. Um, and I I just
17:53really believe in Herbert with McDaniels.
17:56>> Two Chargers are going in the 12th round. We just did our tight end show.
17:59Aronda Gadston is the 11th pick of the 12th round. Katon Mitchell is the fifth pick of the 12th round. Which of those
18:04are you more likely to draft this year?
18:06>> Yeah, it'll be Katon in half PBR. Yeah.
18:08>> Yeah. because like you know if something does happen to a Martin then the Katon Mitchell stuff like goes skyhigh versus
18:14I'm not sure that the outcome case is there for Aronda Gatson to be like a league winner at his position.
18:20>> Remember guys though like go type in like Harbaugh Kamani Vidal like there is like a little fascination like this is
18:27not a twoperson race like I'm telling you this will be there will be three guys involved here in terms of snaps.
18:32Just the injury front, left ankle fracture week five against the Commanders and then he had another ankle injury in week 17 for Omar and Hampton
18:40last year. Uh, one final thought on this Mike McDaniel system now for three plus years, four plus years in the league.
18:46Uh, his offenses have ranked fifth in yards per rush to running backs, fifth in success rate, and first in explosive run rate.
18:53>> Yeah, Hampton's fast, man.
18:56>> He's big and fast. And then tries to break tackles and win on final contact.
19:00>> Yeah. So, I can say all the rest of the stuff, but that's a recipe in this offense for just success.
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19:39He's next up on this list. Running back 19, being drafted, the seventh pick of the fourth round. Uh what a fun player.
19:48He was in college, then stayed on the board way too late in the actual NFL draft, and then shows up and averages
19:54over 90 yards when given the starting job until what, about week eight, where he dislocated his right ankle, fractured his fibula, and then ruptured his
20:04deltoid ligament. So, what do you think about Cam Scataboo here entering year two?
20:08>> Rookie tape is pretty underrated. He fought really, really hard for lots of extra yards. maybe fought too hard at times out there. Just completely
20:16sacrificed seeing his body. He has crazy Bellcow potential just because of how he operates, how thick he is, and also how
20:24nice his hands are on top of that. So, he can actually play a bunch of snaps.
20:28Uh he was the RB 11, RB8, RB9, 4, 14, and 15 in expected points when he was the starter there. He was a clear RB1
20:38during that stretch. Uh, I thought that the Giants offensive line was kind of uh dismantled. I think it's going to be
20:44better this year due to health and draft picks. Uh, obviously when you have the Harbaughs, they want to run the ball. We
20:50saw the Jackson Dart comment where they want to feed the ball to Cam Scataboo.
20:55Uh, and I thought maybe he's a step faster than people were giving him credit for um, back as a as a prospect.
21:02There's a couple times where he was beating guys at least to the first down marker. He's never going to be running
21:05away from guys, but you can do a lot of fun things in the pass game. He can run routes, stay on the football field, he
21:10catches everything. And uh I like Tyrone Tracy, but I just don't think that he runs nearly as hard as Cam Scatterabus.
21:16So, I do feel good that he's going to be a foundational back for for the Giants here. I don't know about obviously the
21:23ankle injury and what that's going to mean for him. I did see him do a backflip in a softball game uh last
21:30month uh which pretty on brand for Cam Scatteraboo, like pushing the limits. Uh but good news, he did land it and seemed
21:35to be moving. Okay. Yeah, we've talked about it in in previous shows. Uh it's somewhat anecdotal, but everyone that has, you know, fractured and dislocated
21:45their ankle and fractured their fibula, uh the last four or so big names of fantasy football have seen massive drastic perouch output drop uh in in
21:56their next season. I'm hoping that Scottoo is different because he is a different kind of cat. He's a madman on the field. Uh, I know that there were
22:04questions entering the league of if he could win in the same way in the NFL as he did in college because his perceived
22:12lack of athleticism. Um, and then it's just more difficult to break a tackle.
22:16It was one for one. It was basically the same. And I would continue to add that like I think very little about his
22:22athletic prowess pops, but he has underrated vision and feel I think for the position and he just simply refuses to go down. He wants to claw, scrape,
22:33lower his shoulder, break through a wall like the Kool-Aid Man uh on on Final Contact, lower his helmet to basically the turf to submarine you on top of it.
22:41He gets skinny and small between the tackles, I think, really well. What also I thought translated was his kind of lack of ability to pull away on these 20
22:49plus yard runs. But still, if you're chugging along for 4, 7, 8, 6, 12, 15 yard runs, then that always works cuz
22:59he's always finishing forward. So, I wish I was a doctor. I wish I went to medical school and I knew how to project
23:06him doing this stuff because for as much as the Giants have talked about running the football and utilizing running backs, they invested nothing in the
23:15position.
23:16>> And you would think that that means really good things for Cam Scataboo. And if he was healthy, boy oh boy, this
23:22would be much earlier than the fourth round. So there's a chance that this is tremendous value for us. But I'm a
23:28little bit concerned just based on recent issues with this injury.
23:31>> Yeah, I think it just comes down to how much of is already priced in. He's the RB9 from week 2 to week uh seven when he
23:37was healthy and then he's currently being drafted as what the RB19. So like there's some level of discount. I'm hope I'm hopeful that the Giants are going to
23:43be a better football team this year than they were this last season and Jackson Dart going into year two. Francis Mino
23:49is going to certainly help. Um, so I do think at least some of this ankle injury is is priced in here and there are some
23:56outcomes where it was too much priced in and there's going to have a runway here.
24:01Um, and then there's the Malik Neighbors part of it too. Like if we don't see Malik Neighbors until, you know, week
24:06five, week six, somewhere in that range and he's not the same player. Like we're running out of options and like how many
24:10passes would he catch early in the season? On top of that, uh, last note, he had a 40inch vertical. So, like the
24:17the really lack of athleticism, I think people just got a little bit too carried away with it. Like he's not he's he has
24:23too short of legs to have like be like a long distance runner here, but in the short areas like there's some like legit
24:30power that he's playing with some short area burst. Um, and obviously like the crazy will.
24:35>> Well, you have to have a 40-inch vertigo if you're going to do back flip safely landed it because that would not have
24:40been a good look.
24:41>> Yeah, those go hand in hand. The jumps were exceptional. Obviously like the movement stuff, he he didn't do any agilities, but like the the the running
24:48elements uh were not as quick as as other backs out there. But so often that then becomes your athletic profile is
24:54your 40 time and people stop there and stop looking. So I I I want it to work.
24:59I I really want this to happen. Uh because you and I were huge fans and then he just kept falling in the draft
25:05and then he goes and and has an awesome rookie season when out there on the field. So he can be like, you know, one
25:12of not one of the face of the NFL per se, but uh he he's up there as a personality and then play and then in
25:22this system if this team works then uh I think you'll be seeing a lot a lot more of Cam Scataboo because the backfield is
25:28Scataboo, >> Tyrone Tracy, and Devin Singleary. They change nothing about it.
25:32>> They added Patrick Ricard. They added Patrick Ricard.
25:35>> Kind of honestly they're kind of twins.
25:37Uh Ricard and Scataboo. Scatville kind of reminds me of Mark Ingram. You know, if things go well throughout his career, like that's Mark Mark Ingram, he's he's
25:44on broadcast.
25:45>> Next in the same round at the end of it, the 12th pick of the fourth round, Trevian Henderson as running back 20.
25:51His rookie season over,00 total yards, 10 touchdowns on 215 touches. That's just during the regular season. Uh he is
26:01the first Patriots running back drafted by quite a large margin. Uh again, 12th pick of the fourth round Trevian. Then the third pick of the seventh round is
26:11Randre Stevenson. So what do you want to say after watching Trevian's rookie season?
26:16>> I think he really reminds me of Raheem Moert and I think that's usually a a compliment and I think that in a good
26:22offense you can have crazy seasons from Raheem Moert types. Trayvon Henderson when he has space is winning pretty much every single race. Uh some of those were
26:31between the tackles when kind of the seas parted and he hit the gap and he's going to outrun the safety. Other times
26:37it was kind of just like a wall. He'd stop his feet. All the Buccaneers defenders would close in and then he
26:43would bounce it outside and then he would win those races as well. I think that there was more uh in the receiving
26:49game than the Patriots got to. I think part of the reason why we didn't see even more of that out of Trayvon was
26:54because one, Raandre was equally as good at it, if not even better. And two, I think the one thing that was just
27:01completely shocking to me is Trayvon was straight up bad in pass protection after being very good at Ohio State when I
27:08went back and watched it. There was a couple mental reps, but a lot of it kind of just came down to he's 200 lb, you
27:14know, like these are NFL linebackers. I think that's going to be kind of difficult to overcome. I'm hoping his vision gets a little bit kind of sped
27:21up. I think there were some times where he was kind of indecisive, especially earlier in the season. The Patriots kind of navigated that. They threw him some
27:28more pitches, got him out in space a little bit more. I thought that was good coaching. I trust Tayvon the the the
27:34person to improve in these kind of uh these like more mental ways going into year two. And then I have a full faith
27:41in Drake May here. So uh I think you can nitpick some of the parts of his game, but it's kind of like the Omar and
27:47Hampton conversation where when you're that fast and your offense is this good that it's hard to get too bearish. I just think the one difference is what if
27:56like Raander is actually like a pretty good running back and he's just not >> Well, he is a pretty good running back,
28:01you know, >> but I think he's pretty disrespected in fantasy for the most part.
28:05>> Got it. Yeah, he Raandre was on our running back sleepers video last year.
28:08He was on the thumbnail. So, uh we were I mean I was drafting both of of these guys and certainly both had their
28:14moments last year. It's pretty simple.
28:16Like with better blocking, Trevan Henderson's going to be a more efficient runner. And I don't want us to forget how poor the Patriots run blocking was
28:26last season for the vast majority of the year, despite them going to the Super Bowl. You know, we can think about them
28:32as the Super Bowl contender from the AFC, whereas it felt like from, I don't know, weeks one through freaking 12, they could not run the ball between the
28:40tackles. Yep. And it also include the tight ends like Hunter Henry and Austin Hooper were getting whooped and then they've made a ton of offensive line
28:49changes this offseason because they saw the exact same thing that we did. You know, like Will Campbell's at left tackle, but you also draft Caleb Lumu.
28:57You know, that's hanging the wings. You go out and sign Elijah Ver Tucker who is awesome when healthy but then injured
29:04quite frequently. And then you move your left guard to center and Jared Wilson and send away Garrett Bradberry who's a bit too light and too easily to move off
29:13uh at that center spot.
29:15>> So if just the blocking improves and he is given more lanes then you're going to see just explosiveness and ridiculous
29:24speed. Uh he had four touchdown runs last season of 50 or more yards as you were saying. That's the most in the NFL.
29:30In fact, that's the most 50-yard touchdown runs by a rookie in a season since Saquon Barkley in 2018. Now, do I
29:36expect, you know, four more 50-yard touchdown runs next season? Probably not in the same exact way, but it is possible if because his speed to pull
29:46away from defenders is ridiculous. It is insane. Now, he has some flaws in his game. I was stunned about the pass
29:54protection. Like I'm going back and think about the Michigan State tape when he is picking up uh his assignments and seeing blitzes and you know putting his
30:04nose in there. The guys are obviously bigger and faster in the NFL. They can confuse you a bit more. The game just
30:09needs to slow down for him I think in that area a little bit.
30:12>> Yeah.
30:13>> So I want to ask you this is the next part. Do you think it's fair that there's almost a three round gap between
30:20Trian Henderson and Reandre Stevenson right now? And why do you think that three round gap exists? Do you just believe that fantasy drafters have this
30:29conclusion that he's just going to command this backfield and take a huge step in year two?
30:35>> Yeah, I think it's just the younger, more exciting player, the faster player is kind of how we draft things. I I
30:40think Raandre Stevenson signed a big contract, lived up to it last year. And I think that Raandre has advantages in two very key key areas. One is pass
30:50protection and receiving. There was a couple remind Stevenson receptions I went back and watched them were like 30 yards down the football field and there
30:56remember one of the quotes being that Trayvon was supposed to be on the field but then they didn't trust him or
31:00whatever the happened and then here comes Raandre and the fact that Raandre can do those things is pretty exciting and then the second thing is uh inside
31:08the five yard line when Raandre was out there he handled 12 of the six 16 inside the five yard line carries between the
31:14two backs and obviously when you have what every bit of 40 pounds uh on them that's probably going to continue here.
31:20I want Trayvon Henderson to play with more physicality. I think that's in pass protection. I think that's on contact between the tackles. He can obviously
31:29run between the tackles if the C parts and split defenders and that's awesome.
31:32I think it's a little bit different.
31:33We're just talking about it's third and one and you got a linebacker hitting you. Are you able to kind of spin off of
31:39that and pick up the first down? I'm not sure if I saw that quite enough, which I think maybe lowers his ceiling just a
31:45little bit. Uh but like you said, like there's proof of concept. If Arandre misses time, Trayvon had uh 16.5 expected half PPR points in those three
31:56games, that's RB4 overall stuff, right?
31:58And we know he can run like the win. So like the proof of concept is there. If Raandre fumbles or gets injured, then
32:04Trayvon could be a total stud. So I have him ranked pretty close. I think maybe this is more like, hey, Raandre might be
32:10going a little bit too late. Uh he's a pretty quality player in a good offense.
32:14like let's just not completely forget about him.
32:16>> I was a huge believer in Trevon Henderson's talent coming into the league. I don't think I'm going to be drafting him a lot at this spot in the
32:2212th pick of the fourth round. Uh I mean we're talking about the next pick being Jaylen Wadd, right? Like again the round
32:29five running backs when you look at Dave Montgomery and the workload that he has and maybe we're a bit too optimistic
32:34about that, but who else are they going to turn to? Devandre Swift, uh Quinn Sean Judkins, who we'll talk about here
32:39in a moment, Jadarian Price for example.
32:41Like >> I kind of like these round five running backs again more than the round four guys. And there are other wide receivers
32:47mixed in there that uh I'm intrigued by too. So like Terry Mcccluren versus Trevan Henderson. I think I'm siding with Terry McLaren in that spot. Yep. So
32:56it's it's tough for me to say that. I agree with a lot of what you're saying.
32:59He kind of pinballs on contact where he >> if they doesn't bring him down, he kind of bounces from this tackler into this
33:07tackler into this tackler.
33:08>> Never forward. But at at the same time, uh that was with horrible blocking and then the only thing that worked for
33:16stretches of the season were those stretch runs, were those toss runs and then like the offensive running game kind of got going a bit more. Yeah.
33:24>> Uh a after that. So, and even when Roman was out, like they featured him in the passing game when he
33:31got to the red zone, too, in terms of creating some opportunities for him in that area. So just uh develop a little
33:38more like ease yourself in feel a bit more comfortable year two in the league.
33:43And uh his rare speed kind of gives him a different profile than a lot of the other running backs that we talk about, you know,
33:51across the league at this point.
33:53>> I got him ranked right next to Basil Tune, who we'll get to in in just a second here. I think a lot of those wide
33:57receivers that you just mentioned, I would rather just go there and then just I don't think there's maybe that big of
34:02a difference between upside and floor in the next couple running backs in a row.
34:07And like fully understanding Trayvon could be a top five, top 10 running back in fantasy this year and as should every
34:14top 24 running back in in ADP.
34:17>> Next is Quinnon Judkins, running back 24, the seventh pick of the fifth round.
34:24I'll say it, Hayden. After going back and watching Quinn Sean Judkins in season and for this show, I think he's the second best runner in this class.
34:33>> My first note is Judkins had the best rookie running back tape in 2025. So, I I'll even go up a notch from there.
34:39There's a couple standout traits to me.
34:41One, he runs really hard and he's got like a great build. 6' 221 lbs. He just is a really tough tackle straight up. I
34:50think what makes him so good though is not the like physical traits that he has. He just plays so in control. I
34:58thought his vision was really good. He knows when to be patient. He knows when to be decisive. And then the other thing
35:03that he does is he keeps his feet underneath him. There's some other running backs who are more athletic than him in terms of the testing, but their
35:10feet get too far uh away from him and it's hard to adjust. Where Quinton Judkins is so balanced, he's able to
35:17pivot and make the right uh cut. uh so much faster because he's just so in control. So, I thought he was really
35:23outstanding as a runner. You cannot make the statistical case to back us. You just have to trust us. Go put on some
35:29highlights. He's fast enough. He's not super fast. He's just fast enough. I think his play speed and his understanding of getting to uh the right
35:39hole on time to allow for his athletic traits to to pick up. I thought he looked like one of the better running
35:44backs in the NFL.
35:45>> I'll take it a notch further.
35:46>> Let's go. I was shocked at how fast he was. I think the defensive backs in the field were shocked at how fast he was. I
35:52mean, >> there were plenty of times where they took an angle more than a dozen during his rookie season >> that they then were reaching for a
36:02tackle or then having to adjust while he was then picking up extra yards so get a hand on him, then try to bring him down
36:08in the open field. I mean, one of his first runs for the season, he presses the line, bounces it to the outside,
36:13completely turns the corner on Marlon Humphrey, who again is shocked by his juice. And I I think that this goes into
36:22why the stats in the film can be so different for running backs compared to almost any other position because the underlying metrics, as you said, might
36:31not be kind for Quinn Sean in a lot of cases. Then you just go and watch like 25 carries is all you need to do, just
36:3625. And you're like, "God damn." Yeah, >> this guy packs a punch. He wins on contact. He gets skinny through trash.
36:44He can work on the outside. He can go to the outside. And then he can also break tackles at the second and third level
36:49that lead to just crazy explosive plays.
36:52But because of the environment that he was in from the quarterback to especially the offensive line that gave him just.7 yards on average before
37:02contact which is third worst among all rookie running backs out there to being hit at or behind the line of scrimmage
37:10on 55% of his carries. And that's going to make those underlying numbers look poor or look average, right, at best, where to me, he is not average at
37:20anything when we're talking about carrying the football, he is excellent in a whole bunch of areas.
37:25>> He also faced the highest amount of eight plus defender boxes according to NextGen stats at 45% of them. So, not
37:32only was the offensive line bad, teams did not care about the pass game at all.
37:36So, he was just having to navigate all that trash that you're talking about.
37:38So, I thought his vision was exceptional. like you have to watch running backs and like pay attention to the linebackers because that's like more
37:44or less who they're responsible for. And his feel when the linebacker creeps up into one hole and he's going to go to
37:50the back side of it is just like so so fast. I think as a receiver they didn't do a whole lot with him there. It's not
37:58like there was anything that was standing out to me that he like can't do it. I do think that Dylan Samson is
38:03gonna be one of the better uh uh pass game running backs as as a compliment, but Dylan Samson's much smaller than
38:10Quint Junkkins, which means he handled 31 of 35 running back carries uh inside the five yard or inside the red zone. Uh
38:17they didn't get to the inside the five yard line 35 times. That's a problem here. Uh but I think we're going to run
38:23into the same issues with Quinnon that you know this offensive line, they got five new starters. How many of them are
38:28actually good? That's going to be a problem. the tight ends. We talked about Harold Fannon who's blocking in the tight end group. That's going to be a
38:34problem here. Uh they haven't fully unlocked him as a receiver. That's a problem.
38:40>> I just know that Quinc Jun is a hell of a football player. So I can only rank him so low.
38:43>> Well, the other thing that we're running into as well is I believe in week 16 he dislocated his right ankle and fractured
38:50his fibula on top of this. So, it's a similar conversation that we had about Cam Scataboo uh and the recent players
38:56who were very good fantasy performers who then dropped down a tier with that stuff. But Quinn Sean, >> I think h if I'm just again reading
39:04reports and following Twitter kind of has been participating a bit more than Cam Scaboo so far this off seasonason and a lot of the Twitter docs are
39:10surprised with how much Quinch Sean has had. So, like again, not all these injuries are exactly the same, but I do
39:15want to give the same hesitancy with that statement to Quinn Sean as I did with Scat.
39:18>> Yeah. And Scat that was like week eight.
39:20This was week 16. So Scout in theory has a twomonth head start. We still got what two months uh before we we get get
39:27started here or three months. So um I think these guys will end up being fine.
39:31And I I believe like obviously we should expect that his efficiency and workload should be lighter than it was the previous year because of the injury. The
39:39sample size that we're going off of is like three or four running backs and like you know I I don't think we should
39:44like fully like just only believe in those. There could be a lot of noise here as we know we do this show in 15
39:49years and we have a lot more unfortunately dislocated ankles to to go off of. Uh and Judkins and Scott are really young so maybe they can be
39:58outliers.
39:58>> I mean it really sucks how many times we've already talked about offensive line changes and how that's going to positively impact and that's just a
40:06guess that it's going to right. We did that with Ashen Genty obviously the Chargers and getting rid of Bradley Boseman and getting their tackles back.
40:13Uh we just did it with Trevian Henderson. uh we did with Cam Scataboo and now we're doing it here with Quinn
40:18Chan Judkins because what I don't think a single one of the starters last year is returning. It's all five all starters. Five.
40:24>> Some of them retired. Some of some of them said I've seen enough.
40:27>> Yeah.
40:27>> And if I implore you all just to go and watch the Vikings game. It was electric.
40:32Um >> so good.
40:33>> And the Vikings in previous years have been one of the stingiest teams to run on. But you see Quinchan Judkins just
40:39dragging defenders again, making safeties angles look horrible. His cuts have explosiveness. He fights on final contact to get more yards. I thought his
40:48hands were fine, but I think I have a bit more hesitation than you maybe in his pass protection. Like he's good on
40:53these cut blocks and submarines, but then he kind of stops his feet uh as a standup guy and whiffs. Again, his final
40:59season in college, he was attached to Trevan Henderson, who was very good at that. And then at Old Miss, he had and
41:05was in a rotation always during that time. I remember our our draft profile and he had so many edge runs at Ohio
41:13State that I actually compared maybe his running style or how to be used in the league to Derk Henry and like getting
41:19him on the edge and full speed and then he's off the races big body who can move. Todd Monin coming in two years
41:26with Derrick Henry >> in his past. So, I'm expecting for as good as the Browns can be this year, as far as they can push this for Quinton
41:35Judkins to maximize whatever he can do.
41:39And I am honestly in love with his ADP right now in the middle of the fifth round if I haven't already selected two
41:44running backs already in drafts.
41:46>> Yeah, he's better than I thought. I was looking at my comps. My comps was uh Kareem Hunt, which turned out to be
41:50maybe a little bit >> Well, Kareem Hunt's rookie year.
41:53>> Incredible.
41:54>> Yeah, >> incredible.
41:55>> Yep. All right, let's talk about Bashel Tutin, who is just after the turn of round five and six, the first pick of
42:02the sixth round running back 26. He played on just 21% of the offensive snaps on the Jaguars as a rookie. Just
42:1193 touches into 386 yards. Uh you could buzz through those 93 touches in about an hour, Hayden. So in that hour, what
42:19did you see?
42:20>> Well, unfortunately Josh, we have to get this one right. Uh, and that's going to be pretty difficult given, I think,
42:25Tootton's tape. Because I could see this one going either way. Uh, >> why do we have to get it right?
42:30>> Because it's freaking Liam Cohen, man.
42:32Go look at the Tampa Bay Bucks and then what Travis Han just did this last uh season when he was the RB 11. The good
42:39news is for Bachel Tuten, he doesn't even have to be great to be a great fantasy asset. He just has to be
42:45playable. Uh, last year he was teetering on the playability. And I do want to quickly mention Lquint Allen played just as many snaps as Basel Tutin. Those 20%
42:56snaps are not going away. If it's third and Trevor Lawrence might get hit, then Laquent Allen's going to stay on the
43:01football field. Fortunately for Toutin though, Chris Rodriguez is not on the football field. He's got a foot injury that we're going to have to uh figure
43:08out as we get closer to training camp.
43:10In terms of just the tape, really fun runner. Just I like his style of running just because he's fun to watch. He would
43:17probably drive me nuts as a coach because he's got this crazy speed. I think he plays a little bit out of
43:24control and that ends up kind of costing some game speed. Uh he has good contact balance, but then he would kind of
43:30fumble out in space just because I can just tell things were moving really fast for Bashel Tuton. So, uh I think there's
43:37a lot of development that needs to happen with him. One of his screen touchdowns, uh he went to the left, all
43:43five of his linemen went to the right.
43:45He still scored a touchdown because he made a linebacker miss out in space. But it's these type of things that I think
43:51we aren't privy to of maybe why Tuton wasn't involved and maybe why they aimed for Chris Rodriguez who has a lot of
43:58familiarity. So if he's going to be out there, he's going to score a ton of fantasy points. We just have to figure
44:02out exactly what percentage snaps he's going to be out there.
44:05>> Yeah. At the same time, they just willingly let Travis Aent go. And that gives, at least in my mind, some level
44:11of confidence that they have in Bashel Tutin. And then kind of the smallalish contract that they gave Chris Rodriguez and we'll talk about Rodriguez here in a
44:20moment. One run kind of encapsulated Bachel Tutin's rookie season for me. It was against the Arizona Cardinals. Kas Campbell got instant disruption, threw
44:28the right guard to the ground. There was an awesome jump cut to avoid him and have a two-ard loss. Then gets to the
44:34Phil defensive back on the edge. He presses with that outside foot then perfectly cuts inside with really nice speed to avoid contact. Then the next
44:42step, he just trips over himself, his own feet. And so that only equals a two- yard gain when it could have been a
44:48sevenyard gain at the very least. But if he broke another tackle or ran away from a defensive back, he could have gone and
44:54housed it. So like there were multiple, I thought, opportunities where he kind of just lost control of his body a little bit. Uh got over his skis, lost
45:03balance, slept, tripped, all of it. that again stopped 12 yard runs from being like 35 yard touchdowns or 50 yard touchdowns like we saw from Trevian
45:13Henderson. At the same time, I thought he had some nice power and straightforward willingness during the and near the goal line. He actually was
45:22subbed in for those situations as well.
45:24Had the same mistackle force rate as Cam Scataboo, who we talked about breaking all these runs, too. But one cut and get
45:31up field. And so if Liam Cohen's offense, >> you know, as we saw last year, has really nice blocking and he has the game
45:40slow down for him a little bit, we know he has the speed to reach every single hole and get to every single scene at
45:47each level of the field. That that can mask maybe some of these possible vision questions. But if some of those questions were just because, you know,
45:53he was a zero star recruit who went from one school then move up to Virginia Tech and now he's, you know, just a better
46:00player on top of it, then we might have like the breakout player. Yes. If everything hits this year.
46:06>> Yeah, definitely. So, and like if Chris Rodriguez foot lingers then like it's just going to be him because Laquent Allen just cannot move the same way that
46:13Basel does. When I was talking about Quint Judkins playing in control and his feet being underneath him and playing more athletic than what his numbers
46:19would suggest, the inverse is true for Toutton. Like those two guys watching their tape almost back to back in like the next couple hours, it was very
46:26evident like one's in control, one is not. Uh I liked when Jacksonville started just giving him a bunch of pitches. There was one game where he
46:33gave they gave him six pitches that included like at the goal line. I think maybe that kind of like just slowed
46:38things down for him a little bit, gave him a little bit more space to operate.
46:41He should be watching as much Devon Achan tape as possible because that's like what he should look like. He did not look like that as a rookie. That's
46:48how it it should look like. And Liam Cohen could really throw um Tuton some screens this year because Chris Rodriguez is not going to do that. The
46:58Quinn Allen's in there for protection reasons. So these are crazy reception seasons. Like there's a chance Toutin can do that. I don't trust him pass
47:05protecting at all. Uh, and I don't like that he was running the wrong way on some routes, but like in theory that
47:10upside does exist in fantasy.
47:12>> It's interesting. You know, we we just talked about Mike McDaniel and how all of his running back kind of have this,
47:18you know, string through them, a throughine of at least having speed, but you have the Moserts to the H Chans, uh,
47:26to the Keat Mitchells to the Jaylen Wrights, like they have something in common.
47:30>> Liam Cohen's running backs are kind of all different in a way. Like you go from again Chris Rodriguez with Kentucky to
47:37Bucky Irving and >> they're not even great athletes. Rashad White.
47:41>> Yeah.
47:42>> And then you have Travis Aan this past season. And then now you have Bachel Tutin. And like the throughine between
47:47all those guys is wildly different. And while like maybe the size of Tutin and Bucky Irving is somewhat similar, you could not find like any different
47:55running styles than than those two. Like they are drastically opposed to each other.
47:59>> Quickly on Chris Rodriguez because again this is important. There's history there. There's commonality from Liam Cohen and during his time and this was
48:06the only move that they made after, you know, Travis Han went to the New Orleans Saints. From Rhino Howaleran, quote, "According to a team source, Chris
48:15Rodriguez had a procedure on his left foot following an injury earlier in the offseason program, but is expected to be ready for the start of training camp in
48:24late July." Now, there's been a lot of speculation. Hey, is this a Jones fracture? Is this turf toe? Is it Liz
48:30Frank? uh those three things never want to hear foot injuries with running backs and Liam Cohen even got on the mic today
48:37and said you know I'm not worried mentally about any of the time that Chris Rodriguez misses because he's obviously uh knows exactly what we do
48:44from a playbook standpoint but for a guy who is also you know a lesser athlete than many of the other players out there
48:51playing running back uh >> this only boosts Bajel Tutin's I think potential and possibility of reaching the ceiling outcome for us and we're
49:01able to get that what in the sixth round at this point. That's incredible.
49:05>> Yep. Yep. I ranked him one spot ahead of uh Trayvon Henderson. I think the profiles are almost identical. Um for
49:12maybe slightly different reasons, but the the upside's evident, the downside risk, we we saw it play out this last season. Uh I just feel, you know, better
49:21about Raandre Stevenson than injured Chris Rodriguez at this point. Um so we'll see. Just to ask about that real quick.
49:28>> Does that mean you have Toutin way above ADP or does that mean you have Hindo way below ADP?
49:35>> Uh more Hendo down below like like you said the round four five turn those wide receivers are pretty pretty fun to me.
49:41So I think right after you get out of those guys then I think I start sliding in Quinnshod's in there uh Tutin and uh
49:49Tvon. I feel so much better about Quinn Judkins uh his tape and I feel obviously way worse about his situation. So
49:56ranking those three guys in in a row, I think I ended up in that area. Like they just get there in totally different
50:01ways.
50:01>> Okay, one round later, Arjie Harvey goes at the end of the seventh round as the running back 31, so five spots later at
50:09the position. Um 896 yards from scrimmage as a rookie with 12 touchdowns on 193 touches. So what' you see from RJ
50:18Harvey after combing through his rookie tape? A >> that is a really good setup for R.J.
50:22Harvey to score fantasy points. The offensive line was really good. Shawn Payeyton does a really good job of scheming things up. They all stayed
50:30healthy until Bo Nicks got injured really late. And then once JK Dobbins went down, RJ Harvey went on a a really
50:37nice run in terms of fantasy. He was the RB1 17 on RB10 usage without JK Dobbins.
50:43Uh, but I think the tape was pretty hit and miss. And I think there's a lot more misses than hits. Now, if you took his
50:51like three best runs of the season where he was running up the middle, bouncing off guys, and then winning with speed,
50:56you'd be completely convinced that this guy's going to go crazy in fantasy. I thought there was a lot of kind of
51:00wasted plays as well. The underlying metrics, given how good the Broncos offensive line was, was really bad. 40 seconds 42nd EPA per carry. Uh negative8
51:11rush yards over expected. That's out of 46 qualifying running backs. Who's 32 32nd in that last stat there. Um, and then NextGen stats had him with the
51:20second highest time spent behind the line of scrimmage. I think that was maybe the more frustrating part. I thought there were some reps where he
51:25was just a little bit indecisive trying to cut things outside. He has the athleticism to make it work sometimes.
51:31Not enough athleticism to do it all the time, especially when you have one of the best offensive lines out there. So,
51:37I thought his tape there were some things that there's some explosiveness to his game that you certainly felt. I thought the rest of it is probably the
51:45reason why they gave $10 million guaranteed back to JK Dobbins despite another uh season ending injury. So, with a lot of the running backs, we've
51:53already talked about Hampton and the Chargers, Scataboo and the Giants, uh, we just talked about it with Bashel Tutin and Jaguars, we are looking for
52:02the runner that is going to claim the line share of work and potentially has not just top 12 running back outcome,
52:10but maybe top five running back outcomes this season. I'll go as far to say that's impossible with the Broncos backfield. Like this is just how Shawn
52:18Peyton utilizes running backs is that he gives a whole bunch of players a whole bunch of touches. Um not a single
52:25running back under Shawn Peyton has ever hit 250 carries and that's what 13 years in the league as a play caller and a
52:32head >> great offenses. Yeah.
52:34>> Yeah. Not Reggie Bush, Deuce Mallister, Alvin Chimera, Mark Ingram, Javvante Williams even two years ago. I mean, Gavvonte Williams and RJ Harvey's actual
52:44statistical profiles in their two seasons with the Broncos is nearly identical with that stuff. So, this is what Shawn Peyton wants. Like, he wants
52:51multiple guys to touch the ball. Now, obviously R.J. Harvey's going the earliest of these Broncos guys. And how I can pitch that is actually 25
53:01different running backs have hit 50 targets with Shawn Payeyton. And RJ Harvey was just the 25th. And some of those plays were some of his best across
53:11the entire season. And especially when we talk about the red zone. Um I mean he had the same number of red zone targets
53:17last year as Zay Flowers >> and had three more touchdowns inside the red zone than Z Flowers did just in re
53:23receptions and receiving yards. Yep.
53:24>> And that's not even talking about the goal line stuff. I mean he had five touchdowns within the five yard line.
53:30All of those were in in close games. Um there were about six or seven times when they got in the red zone where they
53:35called like this bootleg right with him slipping out or he was inserting after this weird alignment that was even outside the tackle through the line of
53:45scrimmage and then catching the ball.
53:46So, I think that it's impossible to make good on a second round draft capital that the Denver Broncos spent on RJ
53:56Harvey to say, "Well, he's just insert blank lead running back on an NFL team."
54:03Instead, I think that Shawn Payeyton, and I'll be Davis Webb as quote unquote calling plays now, wants to utilize these three running backs in different
54:12ways, and namely two in JK Dobbins and R.J. Harvey. and how RJ Harvey's kind of like found his role in this. Now, what
54:18does that mean for fantasy purposes?
54:20Does that mean he's a good pick or a bad pick? I'm still deciding that at this point, but uh that's kind of where I am
54:26at with his standing in this offense at this moment.
54:28>> I think he's a committee back. I think he's a pass uh pass game back and that's how Shawn Peyton utilizes him. There's a
54:33history like you keep mentioned with the Shawn Payeyton of they get into roles and it's hard to shake out of those.
54:39When JK Dobbins was healthy, RJ Harvey was the RB36 on RB54 usage. half PPR, he's being drafted as the RB31. So like
54:48the market is expecting uh RJ Harvey to play a lot more than he did uh with JK Dobbins. And we haven't brought up Jonah
54:56Coleman, who I think is at least somewhat interesting because Jonah Coleman was a Bellcow. He's not very splashy, but Jonah Coleman I do think if
55:04JK Dobbins misses time, Jonah Coleman would eat into some of the touches that R.J. Harvey was getting without uh JK Dobbins this last year. Like I I think
55:13that the the upside case in terms of like ranking in terms of handcuffs I do think takes a hit because Jonah Coleman
55:19is involved. So I think in full PPR and a deep league and stuff I think that there's like some interesting outcomes
55:25for for R.J. Harvey. Uh I don't think I was sold on this tape. And it wasn't even just Jake uh JK Dobbins returning
55:32and the Joan Coleman selection. They were like linked to Jerian Price in the draft. They were linked to Travis Han, Kenneth Walker, every big running back.
55:40Shawn Peyton made sure to get on K.
55:41Adams podcast and say, "Hey, we're we're looking to to find uh this next guy."
55:46They ultimately settled on $10 million guaranteed Jake Dobs, which is more money than I was expecting.
55:50>> Yeah. I mean, but it's just a one-year contract, you know.
55:53>> Yeah. But 10 million like that's that's pretty good, you know? Uh so I I think like week one comes around, guess who's
55:58going to be leading this team in touches? It'll be JK Dobbins. And right now, he's getting priced way down. Now, that's not how we should be ranking
56:03these guys in fantasy long term. But in my rankings, >> like the JK Dobbin stuff is every year is a career year until it's not because
56:12he has averaged like seven and a half games played per season in his NFL career.
56:17>> Yeah, definitely. So, so I have him pretty close in my rankings. I think early on the season it will definitely
56:22be JK Dobbins. JK Dobbins is somehow only 27 years old. So, if you can figure this thing out and like I mean I don't
56:28know what his leg >> I want. Trust me, if if we got a 17 games of JK Dobbins, it would be
56:33freaking sweet. And I hate trying to predict injuries, but like at some point, you know, we can all say >> he's on pace for this and then it's just
56:44impossible for like if JK Dobbins fulfilled his on-pay stats every single year, he'd be a Hall of Famer at this point.
56:50>> He literally would. He literally would.
56:52>> So, it just it just hasn't happened.
56:54>> Yeah. But what we do know is that like again RJ Harvey 47 passes that's running back eight in the NFL last year. 350
57:02plus yards that's running back eight in the NFL and five receiving touchdowns that's running back three in the NFL last season. I also like we can talk
57:11about how much JK Dobbins more work he had than RJ Harvey to start the season.
57:17I don't think that we're going to get the same difference, the same split in that to open this season after, you
57:24know, you do have RJ Harvey, you know, seeing the vast majority of the running back work. Like, I don't think he's
57:31going to have anywhere from five to seven touches >> in the first eight games of last season of this season again, if that makes
57:38sense.
57:39>> Yeah, I have both of them in my RB30s.
57:41Neither of them are inside my top 32 fantasy running backs. And I think it'll be a committee like you said and like
57:47that's not even factoring in or that's factoring in Jonah Coleman like going to get he's not getting zero touches Jonah Coleman he's going to get five and uh he
57:55can get some goal line work too because he's Jonah Coleman's a big boy too I mean he's like 5'8 but 220 so uh he's an
58:02interesting guy like very different than RJ Harvey in my opinion >> I'm not fronting off RJ Harvey either just improving >> yeah once once he gets into the league
58:12>> uh in his second season. So that's a possibility. They are quite close just in terms of running back rankings overall. It's running back 31 and
58:18running back 35 between the two. Okay, let's talk Kungai who really became a channel favorite during last preseason.
58:27Just the more you dug into the depth chart, uh the more we were advocating him as what a round 15 plus pick last
58:34year. Uh, and then just like DeAndre Swift from about week seven on, you saw real strides both with him and this
58:44running game and how they leaned into the strength. So, right now he's being selected as running back 33, the seventh pick of the eighth round. Uh, is this
58:53one of the more straightforward evaluations that you saw?
58:55>> It really is. I like the ADP. I have him ranked ahead of R.J. Harvey. Uh, in fantasy, I think that he's definitely
59:02better than R.J. Harvey in terms of the rookie tape. I think he plays with a ton of energy. He plays with a ton of
59:07contact balance. And then he's not crazy athletic, but he's definitely athletic enough. He reminds me stylistically of Isaiah Pacheco, but like Isaiah Pacheco
59:18actually moving forward like like, you know, in an efficient manner. It's just like he plays with all that energy that you love. And I think that he has a
59:26little bit different of a style than DeAndre Swift. Ben Johnson understood that they had a little bit different type of carries they would get to. They
59:33ultimately by the end of the season were were rotating drives one to one where Swift would get the first uh drive out
59:40of each half and then Manungai would get the next. That was enough to kind of be where this ADP is and like the low
59:47RB30s. And then there were some games where Manungai went absolutely crazy because uh their right guard right tackle combination was as good as it
59:54gets. Ben Johnson's outstanding uh and I think Kyle Manungai is a rock solid player. So, I thought if DeAndre Swift didn't improve last year on tape, I
60:03think we'd be like, "All right, Manunga might just take this whole thing over."
60:06I'm not expecting that to be the case.
60:08But, if it did, there's no RB3 right now and Manungai would be vaulted really high up in our weekly rankings. So, I
60:15think right now he's kind of priced at his like median outcome. And I think it's way more likely that he like breaks
60:20out than he completely goes away. It is so fitting that he is right next to Blake Cororm when it comes to running
60:27back selected because at times it was two for one for both in terms of two drives to DeAndre Swift and Kairen
60:34Williams and then one drive to Manungi and Blake Corm. Then there were other contests where it was literally one for one
60:39>> as well and you saw some really nice moments uh from both.
60:44>> Manungai 187 touches, 947 yards and five scores. He's just a bowling ball. He's a bumper car. It goes into everything that
60:51you said. Now, you would think maybe with that style he would pull away and like totally break tackles more often.
60:58He was down at right around league average at 0.15 in terms of his missed tackles forced rate. Yeah. But it kind
61:04of goes to he's falling forward on final contact to pick up those two or three yards and not fully breaking it and like
61:10playing on the edges of these defenders and they're like grabbing his jersey or grabbing at his ankles and then he reels
61:16off another seven or eight. Um, but once again, what a seventh round pick he was and what extreme confidence Ben Johnson
61:25must have in him heading into year two where someone with the Lions, how they invested so much in the running back
61:31position is just running it back with DeAndre Swift and Kungai and Manungai is just so much of a superior player than
61:38Roshan Johnson who was selected in the fourth round just a few years earlier.
61:41>> Yeah, Mona just doesn't have the athletic traits to like really overwhelm. So, he's about as good as he possibly can be. Um, and I think that's
61:50a really fun player because the Bears offense should be inside the top 10.
61:53There was I I had to call it two quick plays on Manungai. One happened in the second game of the season. The Lions
62:00were smoking the Bears. They were up 31.
62:02There was 40 seconds left. They give the ball to Kyle Manungai with obviously nothing to play for and just like truckicks two Lions defenders like in
62:10the last minute. And then another play where uh Kyle Manungai was supposed to be like chip blocking uh next to Coloulston Lovelin. Coloulston Lovelin
62:19completely bodied one-on-one pass protection, but Nung guy slips out uh just using his head, catches a pass, breaks some tackles for a very very
62:26clutch uh first down uh in that game as well. So there's just like really fun moments with Kyle Mungai. I can tell
62:33that Ben Johnson really trusts him. So him and Blake Cororm like these are the type of guys that I gravitate towards.
62:38Like I would much rather take a chance that I have like a bi-week fill in with a chance to really matter rather than
62:45like some of these guys like you know uh maybe Jaylen Warren, RJ Harvey, these guys where I I just don't see quite the
62:53same level ceiling like I do with Mungai or Cora.
62:57>> Okay. Is the potential outcome and highend outcome for Kyle Manungai uh that he is the new version of Jamal
63:06Williams for this team? Now, >> if you just look at the Chicago Bears last year, we know that they were ninth
63:14in terms of scoring on offense, but I wonder just based on body type and how Kongai maxes everything that he does and
63:23now he's, you know, not a seventh round rookie. He's now a secondyear player in this offense.
63:28>> If he can kind of at least flip-flop with DeAndre Swift in terms of attempts inside of the 10 yard line. So last
63:36season Swift had 24 of those carries.
63:38Manungai had 19. So it was somewhat close. But like what if this year Manungai is the one that gets 25 and
63:44DeAndre Swift's the one that goes down to about 19 or 18. That might be too like typ casting them a bit of their
63:51archetypes. But if >> again I think there's such a big difference of hey we spent a final round pick on this guy. we'll see how he turns
63:58into camp and oh, he's earning a bit more as the season goes along versus oh, now we are implementing him and planning
64:04on him being a solidified part of this offense from week one.
64:08>> Yeah, I would expect it's just going to be the driveby drive rotation. I don't see any reason to to lose sight of that.
64:13Uh DeAndre Swift, this is his last year on the Bears, but he's also making uh $9 million coming off a pretty good season
64:20there. So, um I wouldn't expect too much to change like in terms of like baseline outcomes for for Kong. By the way, you
64:28you mentioned Jamal Williams. Uh somebody came up to me at Matsu who's over in Huntington Beach, one of my favorite like teon uh tables. Said he
64:34recognized me from from the show. He said, "Thank you for uh telling me to draft Jamal Williams a couple years ago.
64:41I won a championship." So, shout out to you.
64:43>> Love that. I've had that with Tyrone Tracy uh Enrico D as well. So, yeah, people really pay attention to our hits,
64:49which I >> Okay, good.
64:50>> Which I appreciate. We have one more name at least, actually two. Let's talk about Bill. All right. Things got a bit
64:57out of hand last preseason with the seventh round rookie of the Washington Commanders. Uh, and now he's going backtoback with his running mate in
65:06Washington. Rashad White is running back 39 at the end of the 10th round. And Bell, one pick later, is running back
65:1240, the first pick of the 11th round.
65:15So, he had 184 touches last year for 873 yards and eight touchdowns. So, is this another backfield that we just have to get
65:25right? I would say less so because I'm not convinced anyone in this backfield is all that great. Uh, and then you got
65:31the Jaden Daniels of it. You got a new offense here. I'll talk about the positives with with Bill here. I thought
65:37his vision and patience for how complicated the Cliff Kingsbury offense was was pretty outrageous. There's like a lot of times where tight ends are
65:45flashing across and like you got to be really patient as a running back and I thought he was able to do that. I
65:51thought his straight line speed was pretty good. Nothing too crazy. It's definitely faster than Rashad White and definitely definitely faster than Kron
65:59Allen. So, I I would label him as the most explosive back on the uh in the back field. Uh there's absolutely no
66:06proof of concept in the receiving game and we have all the proof of concept that you would possibly need from Rashad
66:11White. So, I'm kind of trending towards this going to be a committee backfield.
66:15Who's going to be the goal lineback? I think that is a very fair question that is pretty impossible to answer right
66:21now. I'm going to really base uh training camp reports out of anything because Rashad White's uh a little bit bigger than Jaori Krosky Merritt, but
66:29he's not not like a power back. And then Katron Allen I think is really physical, but we're talking about a six round
66:34rookie here. So, it's one of these things where like Jaka Krosky Merritt's better than where he was drafted. He's not like the next Devon Chan or anything
66:42like that. And I'm expecting this to be a committee backfield. So, this is like typically one of the profiles that I'm
66:48not going to draft a whole lot, but I think this is like about where he should be going in baseball.
66:52>> Interesting. I really like this price tag for Bill and I really like this price tag for Rashad White. Uh, I'm just
66:58optimistic and I really like the price tag for Terry McLaren. Maybe I'm just anticipating like a big step up here with the Washington Commanders, but I
67:04think they have all the pieces. you know, when we talk about the quarterback and the wide receiver and what I think
67:08the play caller is going to bring to the table and accentuate this offensive line a little bit that maybe we've lost sight
67:14of kind of the upside case I think for the commander offense and again I think we're getting a discount with a lot of
67:19these pieces and I think it's really defined between these two like >> Rashad White is one of the best pass protecting third fourth down players in
67:28the league and so the question is does he come in here and does Bill falter And so in that case, does Rashad White, who
67:37struggles in pure running situation, who struggles on first and second down, just kind of get you by in those cases? Do
67:43they just turn to that? Watching all the Bill stuff, like I think it's good. You know, he's, as you said, much better
67:51than a seventh round rookie. He kind of plays super wide. Like his strides are incredibly long.
67:58>> His jump cuts are incredibly long. And it's fascinating when you look at the running back stances before the ball is
68:04snapped. You see guys like Jir Gibbs who is very narrow. A bunch of other running backs is narrow.
68:10>> Bills is like the widest in the league and it's also his same running style. So >> that can kind of make it so he doesn't
68:17have these sudden steps to elude defenders as much. But then in everything that's in phase and as you said when he's kind of riding this wave
68:24>> it is like super fluid and he's kind of cutting between the lines with that stuff and then his strides really do
68:31chew up a bunch of ground.
68:32>> So like the stretch style can be a good thing but it can also be a negative because when a you know a DB or a safety
68:38or a linebacker squares him up and he's almost certainly going down.
68:42>> So yeah, I like both these price tags.
68:44I'm willing to draft both of these backs because we know Bill's not cracking into what Rashad White's doing. I mean, he
68:50fumbled four times last year and only caught nine passes all of last season.
68:54>> Yeah, I I said it the same way. I don't think he's very agile for somebody that's not like the biggest back out
68:59there, and I think that's just going to cap his ceiling, but he he does surf like you're talking about in that really
69:03wide stance. I tweeted out that Bill should be drafted higher this year than his ADP last year. That was both. He's a
69:10little bit priced too low right now and last year we some of you guys got pretty pretty aggressive out there. He did
69:16close the season strong. His last four games he was the RB16 on RB28 usage.
69:21That's a four game sample size, so don't get too carried away there, but he had a couple a couple of explosives there. Um
69:27I think he's going to like they're going to be able to hold the line. And Rashad White is on a one-year $2 million
69:33contract, nothing. Bill is a seventhrounder and their running their their third running back is a sixthrounder. So, this is as little
69:40investment as you will ever ever ever ever see in a position. I'm sure they were trying to get Jeremiah Love or
69:47whatever the case may be. Uh or they're just trying to, you know, NBA this and do all analytics. Um it's a it's a true
69:54like let the best man win and I don't think that Bill Crosky Merritt is like behind Rashad White. I think that's a
70:00true tossup. I also need to have uh Kron Allen show me a little something in preseason before I even like take him
70:06seriously and turn this into a three-headed backfield versus a two.
70:09Like he needs to bill it or monungy it a little bit for me to take him seriously if if if that's okay with you.
70:17>> Yes, but Kron Allen is like Mr. Dirty Work and if if you want to burn an 18th round pick on Kron Allen like by all
70:24means I think you can do it. Just on Bill, as you said, he was drafted and closed drafts last year as the running
70:29back 34 and now he's being drafted as a running back 40 when we have more information.
70:34>> Yeah. On him.
70:34>> Yeah. Yeah. He's he's a fine player.
70:36>> Let's close with Woody Marks.
70:3912th pick of the 12th round, running back 45. This team did make a huge move uh in terms of adding quote unquote
70:48competition for him. And maybe it's no longer a competition because Dave Montgomery was traded and now again is being selected as running back 21 and
70:57compare that to the running back 45 here for Woody Mark. So does this allow Woody just to go back to role player status?
71:04>> I think he should be a role player. I think he's a pass guy. This that's not uh anything outrageous here. If you guys
71:10studied his uh USC tape and Mississippi State tape, he's like air raid pass down back. He's just not that great of an
71:18athlete. He's one of these guys that plays kind of in the same speed no matter where he is in the rep. Uh, and I
71:24don't really mean that as as a compliment. I think there's some times where I saw a crease available to him and he just like did not have enough to
71:33kind of burst through. And I think that's going to lower his ceiling, especially when you're talking about one of the five worst offensive lines
71:38annually. And I I think maybe there's a chance the Texans get a little bit more bully ball this year just looking at
71:44some of their investments that they're what they're trying to do. I'm not sold that it's going to absolutely click this year. Not completely sold on the
71:51offensive coordinator either right now.
71:53So, I think Woody Marks versus David Montgomery, like this version of David Montgomery, it's not that dissimilar in terms of of player. I think that David
72:01Montgomery just has a lot more pop on his pads uh than Woody Marks. But I don't think that David Montgomery is so
72:08much better than Woody Marks at this point of his career. That's not saying that Woody Marks is like a great player
72:14um by any stretch, but I think that he could get drafted if you're like in a 12 person league and just looking for
72:20handcuffs. I think that Woody Marks like passes at least that threshold.
72:23>> Question. Do you think the Houston Texans believe that Dave Montgomery is way better than Woody Marks?
72:27>> It does sound like it. Uh we'll see. I mean, David Montgomery, that's a lot of touches and talk about his third third
72:35team. Uh, you know, maybe I I I've always loved David Montgomery. I think like this is about the time of career
72:43where you start to like second guessess things a little bit. I think they're really going to try to make David Montgomery a work. So, um, I I think I
72:49have their ADPs maybe a little bit more squished together than what it is on Underdog where they're like completely separated. Uh, and that's not even me
72:57liking Woody Marx's tape very much.
72:59>> I'm going to give you some Woody Mark stats that actually turn into David Montgomery stats. Okay.
73:03>> Okay. Uh, >> uh, we know that last year this team, the Texans were one of the worst in terms of red zone touchdown success
73:08rate. I think like bottom two or three in the league. A big part of that is Woody Marks and just the overall team
73:15rushing standpoint. Again, another team that has gone through massive offensive line overhauls and changes. Hopefully that helps for the second straight off
73:22seasonason. Uh, but then it's also what he marks 32 carries inside of the 20 yardd line equal two touchdowns for him.
73:28Those 32 carries were the same number that Bejan Robinson had in the red zone.
73:34Uh, one less than Dave Montgomery had in the red zone, two less than Chase Brown, three le four four less than uh, Saquon
73:41Barkley. So like Woody Marks had a lot of opportunities in that area. Now a lot of it might not be his fault because
73:46again they just could not block up front, but um, Dave Montgomery, we're gonna talk about him all summer. If you just zoom out, this is the dead zone
73:57profile of just imparting a hell of a lot of opportunity and red zone work on a player who is declining, right? So, if
74:07it hits, obviously, it's all baked in.
74:10It works out, you score touchdowns. But we've seen in many other cases, it just doesn't work out. But I I just don't
74:16know of how much faith I have in Woody.
74:18But at least he's shown that uh he has held down that role in the past, albeit with hit or miss success.
74:25>> Woody Marks is really good in pass protection. So like if there was like one thing, it's just he's he's a
74:29reliable player. He's seen everything in terms of blitzes and stuff just based off the college offenses that he was in and that's how that he was uh drafted.
74:38That if you listen to the comments from the team right after they drafted him, that's what they were hoping for. before
74:43they got maybe a little bit more on early downs because Nick Chub wasn't cutting it. Uh I think yeah, ultimately I I think it's just kind of a systemic,
74:50you know, Texans offensive line issue here that's going to hold all of them back. So I I appreciate Woody Marks for
74:56what he is. Like he's kind of like almost like a coach's pet. He's B minus Rashad White. Is this getting you fired
75:02up?
75:05No. Okay, I've got one more question for you. We're, you know, only an hour and 16 minutes into this episode. Which of
75:10these running backs when you reviewed all of them surprised you the most for good or bad?
75:15>> Um I remember watching Quinc Jenkins and I mean like this guy's really impressive. When you kind of just like watch all these guys one after another
75:23what he's doing just terms of the vision stuff was just like really standing out like there was elements of like other
75:27physical traits or effort or receiving stuff that stood out. He was kind of like the only one that was like man he
75:34just like reads everything out really well and that's a very tough trait to to have as a rookie. Um, but I think the
75:41big takeaway second to that is so many of these guys were playing through injuries or had a devastating injury and that's just going to make
75:48it's already a tough thing to go through all these >> played behind a devastating offensive line.
75:52>> Yes. And like it's already hard enough trying to like judge these guys off of one year when we have like these huge
75:57factors that are like not necessarily in our control after tape studies like makes this thing even harder to kind of work through. you know, we just claim
76:05that, you know, Ashen Genty's offensive line and Martin Hampton's offensive line and Cam Scataboos and Trevian Henderson's and Quinchan that they're
76:11all just gonna improve >> and sometimes that is not how it works.
76:15>> But that's not how it's going to work.
76:16No.
76:16>> So, uh, hopefully it does. That that would be really great. I totally agree with what you said about Quinn Sean.
76:21Just one final thought on Omari and Hampton.
76:25>> There's going to be a lot of jokes this offseason of, oh, he's going to be a great handcuff for Katon Mitchell this
76:30season. Um, that is an outcome here that the flaws and everything that we said and spotted in Amar Hampton's game, even dating back
76:38to his time at UNCC, uh, could keep him from being a workhorse in the league. At the same time, I think it's more likely
76:48that the running system that he is in just masks his flaws and accentuates his strengths. And so this is one of the
76:56players where I have obvious flaws in my head that it can lead to negative outcomes, but I almost want to minimize
77:02those and focus in on the positives just because of the environment that he's in.
77:06>> Yep. That's why coaching matters, offensive line matters, and I think those two things in particular, whoever the play callers, the offensive line, I
77:12think those are like some of the last things that give you like a true edge in fantasy football. Uh, and I think it's
77:18more important than ever now that the running backs are priced where they should be, which is really high up.
77:23>> Yeah. I also really enjoyed Basel Tutton's 93 touches at times.
77:27>> They were fun. They were fun. Like it was it was uh I'm sure Liam Con was having less fun than we were. Uh like I
77:32I kept rooting for him.
77:34>> Yeah, we might get to do a lot of that this season. All right, that does it. We have wide receivers tomorrow. Uh this is
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