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NFL is a Game of Inches... and Mistakes | NFL Pro Week 5 Sunday Reaction Show

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58 min
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Oct 12, 2026
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Mon, October 12, 2026
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Justin HerbertDrake MayeKyler MurrayBrock PurdyBucky IrvingChase BrownChristian WatsonFernando MendozaJahmyr GibbsJalen HurtsJayden DanielsJayden HigginsJaylen WarrenJoe Burrow
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Brock Purdy

NegativeProjection2:45

Purdy completed 19 of 29 passes for 189 yards with a 92.5 passer rating, two touchdowns, and one interception against Seattle. He was pressured on 50% of his dropbacks—his third-highest pressure rate in his career—and was sacked three times after not being sacked at all through the first four weeks. He completed 7 of 13 attempts under pressure for 72 yards. However, after his interception, he rebounded with 10 completions on 11 attempts for 109 yards, a touchdown, and a 138.3 passer rating, showing resilience despite the difficult day.

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Bucky Irving

PositiveUsage38:00

Bucky Irving led the league in rushing yards after missed tackles this week with an insane run featuring a forced missed tackle and cutback. The source highlights his performance on Thursday night football as the benchmark for elite rushing performance this week.

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Chase Brown

NegativeUsage51:37

Chase Brown, the Bengals' intended bell cow back, had 13 carries for 39 rushing yards and 3.0 yards per carry average against the Dolphins. The source expressed ongoing concern about the Bengals' run game, noting they struggled to get anything going on the ground in the previous week as well, and emphasized that being one-dimensional with receivers like Joe Burrow has won't work against really good football teams.

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Christian Watson

PositiveBreakout26:48

Christian Watson had multiple 40+ yard touchdowns in a single game against the Bears, the first Packers receiver to do so since Jordy Nelson 12 years ago (also vs. Bears). Watson is the only player in the NFL with multiple 140+ yard games with multiple touchdowns, placing him among the most productive players at any position early in the season. The source calls him 'on an absolute tear right now.'

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Drake Maye

PositiveProjection20:15

May had a strong bounce-back performance against the Raiders after early-season struggles, completing 26 of 34 passes for 374 yards, four passing touchdowns, no interceptions, and one rushing touchdown. The source notes that most of his production came against press coverage, with 118 of his 374 yards coming when targeting pressed receivers. May excels when given one-on-one opportunities on the outside and sideline parts of the field, particularly against press coverage looks.

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PositiveProjection20:39

Drake May excels against press coverage; 118 of his 374 passing yards came when targeting pressed receivers in the Patriots' win over the Raiders. When given one-on-one opportunities on the outside and sideline, he takes advantage consistently. The source notes he completed 7 of 8 passes for 117 yards and 3 touchdowns against quarters coverage specifically, demonstrating his ability to exploit man-to-man looks. The Raiders' defensive game plan of press coverage and edge disruption was a mistake given May's proficiency in these situations.

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Fernando Mendoza

NegativeRole23:43

Fernando Mendoza entered the game for the first time in garbage time after the Patriots built a large lead over the Raiders. He completed 6 of 8 passes for 48 yards. The source notes this was limited action and plans to provide a separate video breakdown of his performance.

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Jahmyr Gibbs

PositiveBreakout39:20

Jahmyr Gibbs had a dominant performance against the Cardinals: 25 carries for 151 rushing yards and 2 TDs (6.0 yards per carry, nearly 50 yards over expected), plus 6 targets, 5 receptions, 56 receiving yards. The source notes that every time the ball is in his hands, something special happens. Gibbs is unbelievable and a key reason Detroit's offense is elite, helping the Lions' defense by controlling games. He's part of the elite running back conversation this season.

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Jalen Hurts

NegativeRole14:00

Hurts has a persistent pattern of avoiding throws over the middle of the field that has compounded over years. NextGenStats data shows that in 2024, 49% of his dropbacks feature an intermediate in-breaking route (15th lowest, league average), yet he targets those routes only 16% of the time (8th lowest)—actually throwing it less this year despite the offense calling it more. Since 2020, he targets the middle of the field only 18% of the time across all depths. This tendency allows defenses to call coverages specifically designed to play the sidelines. In the Eagles-Jaguars game, this cost Philadelphia a win; a throw to Dallas Goddard over the middle on third-and-three would have forced Jacksonville to burn a timeout and given the Eagles better clock management, but Hurts instead called an outside-the-numbers route that didn't work.

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Jayden Daniels

NegativeRole52:38

Daniels failed to execute proper clock management in the Commanders-Giants game ending, either not spiking the ball or throwing a quick completion when he should have. The source criticized his awareness, noting that as the quarterback with the ball, he should know to spike it or get a quick completion regardless of what he's told over the headset. The source suggested Daniels may have thought they still had a timeout, but emphasized that even with that context, he must know the situation and what to do with the football. This is the kind of mistake that could cost a team a playoff spot if it's the difference at season's end.

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Jayden Higgins

NegativeInjury31:00

Jaden Higgins tore his ACL before the season started, which prompted the Texans to trade for Marvin Harrison Jr. The source expresses skepticism about the trade partly because Higgins was progressing well before the injury and is a better athlete than Harrison Jr., with 85th percentile vertical jump and broad jump metrics. The source believes Higgins would better serve as the vertical X receiver to free up Nico Collins, but acknowledges the Texans' concern about depth at receiver.

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Jaylen Warren

PositiveBreakout36:45

Jalen Warren had an outstanding performance against the Colts: 15 carries for 101 rushing yards and 1 TD (50 yards over expected), plus 24 routes run, 6 targets, 6 catches, 87 receiving yards, and 1 TD. He led the Steelers in both rushing and receiving. Warren had 59 rushing yards after missed tackles, second only to Bucky Irving this week. He became the first player since Herschel Walker (1986) to have an 80-yard receiving TD and a 50-yard rushing TD in the same game—a 40-year gap. The source praises his high IQ, vision, contact balance, and versatility across inside zone, gap scheme, outside zone, swing passes, and receiving routes. He's been among league leaders in missed tackles forced and yards after missed tackles all season.

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Joe Burrow

PositiveProjection50:49

Burrow had a dominant performance against the Dolphins with four touchdowns, maintaining the Bengals' win probability above 75% throughout the game despite the Dolphins starting many rookies. The source acknowledged the Dolphins are a work in progress but noted Burrow's elite receiver talent allows him to put up big numbers even against young defenses.

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Jordan Love

PositiveProjection24:42

Jordan Love completed 6 of 8 passes of 20+ air yards for a career-high 258 yards on deep passes with 2 touchdowns against the Bears. This was the most deep completions of 20+ air yards by any quarterback in a single game this season and a career-high for Love. He averaged 32 yards per attempt on deep passes. Only Russell Wilson (264 yards in Week 2, 2025) had more deep passing yards in a single game in the NGS era. The source emphasizes Love's unwavering confidence in throwing deep regardless of game script or conditions.

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Justin Herbert

PositiveValue44:30

Despite the 0-5 record and poor vibes, the source maintains Herbert is QB1 in his class and would still take him over any quarterback in this class, not even close. The source emphasized full contract and full context, noting that while Mestamaker has put up good stuff, Herbert remains the best option available in this quarterback class.

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NegativeProjection44:30

Herbert has been sloppy through five weeks with recurring fumbles, inaccuracy, poor decision-making, and a second-half interception where he stared down the defender. The source expressed frustration that five weeks into the season it still looks this bad and questioned whether the Chargers would blow up the roster, though acknowledged they likely won't given Herbert's historical track record.

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NegativeUsage45:14

Herbert has been pressured on 43.8% of his dropbacks this season, the second-highest rate among qualified quarterbacks and above his previous career high of 41.2% last season. The Chargers have cycled through multiple offensive line combinations, and while the young players are gaining experience, it's not a recipe for winning football games.

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Kenneth Walker III

PositiveBreakout38:35

Kenneth Walker has been incredible this season, ranking among league leaders in missed tackles forced and yards after missed tackles, close to Jalen Warren in these metrics. The source includes him in the conversation of elite running backs this season alongside Warren, B.J. Hill, and Jahmyr Gibbs.

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Kyle Williams

PositiveUsage23:00

Kyle Williams scored a touchdown against the Raiders in a quarters coverage look, demonstrating Drake May's ability to connect with receivers on deep shots. Williams was one of six Patriots receivers who caught at least three passes, reflecting May's confidence and distribution across the offense.

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Kyler Murray

PositiveRole42:28

Murray exhausts defenses with his leg mobility and shiftiness in space, wearing opponents down through repeated cutting rather than breaking tackles or running over defenders; he has a knack for gaining exactly the yardage needed in third-and-long and high-leverage situations. However, the Vikings have the fourth-highest rate of intermediate middle routes as a percentage of his dropbacks, yet he throws them at the lowest rate in the NFL—a persistent issue from his Arizona days that continues to limit his passing game despite improved progression-reading and willingness to hold the ball.

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PositiveProjection44:24

Week 5 was Murray's best performance of the season for the Vikings; he showed improved progression-reading, willingness to hold the ball, and comfort with receiver timing. The source felt he was not panicking while going through progressions and is settling into the timing with his receivers, suggesting he is getting better as the season progresses.

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Makai Lemon

NegativeUsage13:00

Lemon was targeted on an out-breaking route in the Eagles' final drive against Jacksonville on second-and-ten with 21 seconds remaining. He caught the pass and ran out of bounds, which prevented Jacksonville from needing to call a timeout and ultimately contributed to the Eagles' poor clock management in the final moments of the game.

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Malik Willis

NegativeProjection51:30

Willis is not consistent enough as the Dolphins' quarterback; while there are glimpses of what Miami is building, Willis lacks the consistency needed to beat teams of the Bengals' caliber. The source noted the Dolphins are a very young team playing many rookies, making it hard to see them winning against elite competition.

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Marvin Harrison Jr.

NegativeValue28:06

Marvin Harrison Jr. was traded from the Arizona Cardinals to the Houston Texans for a 2027 seventh-round pick swap (Texans send 2nd round pick, Cardinals send 6th round pick). The source is skeptical of the second-round pick compensation given Harrison's underperformance since being drafted fourth overall. Harrison has been outplayed since arriving in Arizona. The source notes Harrison functions primarily as a contested catch receiver (1.9 yards per route run on the ball, 0.9 off the ball), which is not ideal given the Texans already have Nico Collins. However, the trade reunites Harrison with CJ Stroud, with whom he had chemistry at Ohio State (2022 season). The source expresses concern this could end up like Aaron Curry, Trent Richardson, or Trey Lance—top-five picks traded in their first three seasons.

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Matthew Golden

PositiveRole25:54

Matthew Golden has been underappreciated this season according to the source. the source notes that every time they watch a Packers game, Golden is doing something noteworthy, contributing to the Packers' dominant passing attack alongside Christian Watson.

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Mike Evans

PositiveRole3:00

Evans is thriving in his new role with the 49ers, playing extensively inside the numbers and close to the hash marks in addition to his traditional X receiver duties. The source highlights his exceptional football IQ and graceful aging; despite potentially losing some speed, his route-running and ability to create throwing windows for the quarterback remain elite. He had a takeover drive in the second half and multiple contested catches, demonstrating his value as a consummate professional and major reason the 49ers won against Seattle despite significant injuries elsewhere on the roster.

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Nico Collins

PositiveRole32:00

Nico Collins has a yards per route run of 2.2 when on the ball, but 4.1 when off the ball and given space to work. The Texans acquired Marvin Harrison Jr. to move Collins away from the X receiver position, allowing him to operate as a Z or slot receiver where his elite athleticism and strength can overwhelm corners. This positional flexibility is intended to maximize Collins' production.

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Parker Washington

PositiveBreakout19:15

Washington turned down a $25 million per year offer in the offseason to bet on himself, and that bet is paying off. He had six catches for 124 yards and two touchdowns against Philadelphia, including a late touchdown with a completion probability of only 21.7%. The source identifies him as Jacksonville's number one receiver and projects he will get paid like a number one receiver in free agency, whether with the Jaguars or elsewhere.

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Samaje Perine

NegativeUsage51:30

Perine had 14 carries for 68 yards and 4.9 yards per carry average in the Bengals' win over the Dolphins, outperforming the team's intended bell cow back Chase Brown in efficiency.

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Episode Transcript

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0:00Welcome to the NFL Pro Week 5 Reaction Podcast.
0:03Thank you for listening on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
0:08Be sure to follow and subscribe to the show.
0:11Cobb breaks a tackle! Close! Diving! Where do they mark it?
0:14Where do they put it? Football is a Game of Inches, and also a Game of Seconds.
0:19Oh my goodness! They gotta get up and spike it!
0:22They're not gonna be able to get this out of time!
0:26And also, somehow now, a Game of Frames. Boy, that is...
0:29I just don't know. How do you mark that, Dean?
0:32Oh! And the kick is gone! And the Jaguars win it!
0:36Is this the greatest reality show in the world?
0:39It really is. NFL, unbelievable. What a week for football.
0:42Trevor, we're gonna begin, obviously, with Niners, Seahawks, up in Seattle.
0:45The play that everybody's talking about, one of the last plays of the game, effectively the last play of the game.
0:52Was Cooper Cup far enough in bounds for that to be considered a first down?
0:56Or rather, was the ball still in bounds as he crossed the marker?
1:00That is the question that everybody's been trying to figure out.
1:04Because if you're just watching it on the broadcast, it is almost impossible to tell.
1:08Being the sicko that I am, and being that the NFL gave us access to literally 14 angles from within the stadium,
1:15all of the cameras, whether they were shown in the broadcast or not, I went on a little bit of a quest after that game was over.
1:24I found the exact frame, laterally, where the ball hit the first down marker.
1:28And then I looked at every angle on that frame to determine, was the ball still in bounds or not?
1:34We are talking, literally, the difference of a frame deciding if this game was over or not.
1:39And after looking at every single angle that I had available to me, again, 14 angles from within the stadium, I still can't tell.
1:47And ultimately, that means that the call had to stand.
1:50If you can't definitively tell that he got the first down, and I can't, if you can't definitively tell, that call has to stand.
1:57I'm with you. I think when I saw all those angles myself, I did not think that there was enough definitive evidence to overturn it.
2:05And I think they got it right. I think they got this call right.
2:10And full transparency, if we found evidence they were wrong, we would have shown that to you.
2:15Like, we have no loyalties, no allegiance here. Like, yes, this is a show produced by the league.
2:20We are not afraid of saying when things were wrong.
2:24We just don't know that they were. But ultimately, this game was not determined by just that one play.
2:30There was a lot that led up to that moment that gave it the weight that it had behind it.
2:36So let's talk about everything that kind of led to that, and truly how great of a football game this really was.
2:43Where do they put it? They say he's short!
2:4549ers take over! Oh! So close! Yeah, Henry, when you look at Brock Purdy in this game, he was 19 for 29, 189 passing yards.
2:53Had a quarterback rating of 92.5 thanks to two touchdowns and one interception.
2:57It wasn't catastrophic from him like we've seen with him against Mike McDonald in the past.
3:02But he was still stressed. Like, he was still stressed the entire game.
3:06This was absolutely two heavyweights going at it. But I want to start out shouting out my boy Mike Evans because they said he was over the hill.
3:15They said, oh, he's moving on from Tampa. He's just trying to get a couple of easy wins.
3:20No, no, no, no, no. Mike Evans is still one of the better receivers that we have in the game, especially when
3:27you put him in that category of, I'll call it X receivers, but Mike Evans has a lot of work inside the
3:34numbers now as well, close to the hash marks.
3:37I mean, this is just where the game is going.
3:40You get your big guys to be able to play in the slot.
3:44Evans is so good at that. And, I mean, you could just go to the first touchdown that he had where, okay,
3:51they're lined up close to the goal line. Mike Evans, he could have very well done one of his signature, you know,
3:58fades to the back pylon and then, you know, it's a contested catch above the rim.
4:03And he kind of fakes that he's going to do that a little bit.
4:07But then he gets so clean across the face of the defender.
4:11Boom, he creates that throwing window. Mike Evans is so good because not only does he still win physically, it's the fact
4:18that, okay, maybe he's not as fast as what he used to be.
4:22That football IQ is as sharp as it's ever been.
4:25He is aging so gracefully. And, I mean, he had a takeover drive in the second half where it was basically only
4:32Mike Evans, I think it was to start that fourth quarter.
4:35It was just unbelievable to watch. It was cool to have Brady in the booth for this game, obviously because of the
4:42connection that him and Brady had when they were in Tampa Bay.
4:46All these contested catches, second half of games, he's gutting it up.
4:49He's just a consummate pro, first ballot Hall of Famer.
4:52Big reason why Shanahan brought him here was to bring some of this greatness out in the other receiving core that he's got.
5:00And Evans has done that today. You could tell Brady's just like, that's my boy.
5:04That's my boy, Mike Evans, right there. Every single time that he came up with a big catch.
5:10But what a signing for the 49ers because can you imagine where this team would be right now without Mike Evans, given all the injuries that they have?
5:19He has been just a godsend for them this season and is a major reason why they got the win today.
5:25He may be an old man, but you just give him a corner he can start beef with.
5:31It's like Popeye getting his spinach. Did you see him?
5:34Did you see him? When he turned Diggs around him.
5:37Dude, he was like, wait a second, hold on.
5:40Who are you? Let me look at the nameplate.
5:43And Diggs was like, wait a second. And he almost goes to slap him away.
5:47Just an unbelievable, just chef kiss troll job. Forged, forged in Tampa Bay and New Orleans from the days of Marshawn Lattimore and Mike Evans going at it.
5:56And we need more of that. We need more corner wide receiver notable rivalries in this league.
6:01I think, by the way, he's reuniting with his best friend, Marshawn Lattimore, next week.
6:06So mark your calendars, folks. Evans v. Lattimore, part, I don't know, 12.
6:10Yeah, baby. I will say, beyond Evans taking this game over, something that really stuck out to me was just how much
6:17respect the next-gen stats win probability model gave to both of these teams.
6:21It was like they kind of acknowledged that both teams were really, really good because the sheer number of swings in the
6:28second half off of turnovers, the model was just going all over the place because of how good these two teams are.
6:34There are some teams where the better team turns it over and it moves like 5% because it's like, let's be real now.
6:42They're fine. This one, early in the third quarter, that Renardo Green interception, the Niners went up to an 83% win probability
6:48just from that because they had to lead in the second half.
6:52Then you get a turnover. By five minutes left, so nine minutes of game clock, five minutes left in the third quarter
6:59on the Debo fumble, they were down to 26% win probability.
7:02So that's like a 60% swing in nine minutes of game clock.
7:06Then you get to halfway through the fourth quarter.
7:09It's like 53-47, dead even. And then finally the Niners, you know, by that ending play with Cup, they win the game.
7:16But the win probability model was like, I don't know, man.
7:19It's two good teams. We'll see what happens. Couldn't figure it out.
7:23I mentioned that it wasn't Purdy's best game because nobody ever has their best game against Mike McDonald, let's be honest.
7:29But Purdy was pressured on 50% of his drop back.
7:33So that's a tough day at the office, no matter who you're going up against, obviously.
7:38It's her third highest rate in his career. He completed seven of 13 attempts under pressure for 72 yards.
7:43He got sacked three times, which he didn't get sacked at all through the first four weeks of the season.
7:50So they brought him down more than anybody else did because, well, nobody else did.
7:54However, after Purdy's interception, he was 10 for 11, 109 passing yards, a passing touchdown, and a 138.3 passer rating.
8:01So he definitely bounced back. But overall, seven turnovers in this game, resulting in 38 total points between the Niners and the Seahawks.
8:08And you mentioned Renardo Green there a second ago.
8:10I want to get to him because he had two of those turnovers with two interceptions in this game.
8:16And he is playing with so much confidence and high football IQ in Raheem Morris' defense.
8:21Overall in this game, as a neutral fan, it was everything I wanted it to be, right?
8:27It's two of the three best teams in the conference just throwing haymakers at each other, turnovers all over the place, points everywhere, drama, controversy.
8:34It was awesome. I understand Hawks and Niners fans were stressed watching this game, but as a neutral fan, it was everything
8:41I hoped it would and could be. And I can't wait for part two.
8:46That being said, next game I want to talk about was nothing like what I expected it to be.
8:52And that's Eagles versus Jacksonville, cross the pond over in London.
8:55This was sloppy. I would say the Jags were more sloppy than the Eagles for most of the game, than the Eagles were sloppy.
9:02A lot of penalties still from the Jags. Tons of penalties, yes.
9:06And ultimately, the Eagles capitalized on that sloppiness from the Jags for 99% of the game until the last, literally, the last two plays.
9:14They were down with eight seconds to go, but a great return by Abdullah puts Cam Little in position to kick the game winner.
9:21I just want you to know how many memes I had ready to fire at you on Twitter because my 10 confidence
9:28game lost on Thursday night and your 10 confidence, it looked like I was dead in the water, and then your 10
9:35confidence game was you picked the Jags over the Eagles.
9:38And when the Eagles kicked that field goal, oh, man, the holster was ready.
9:42I was about to just unload so many memes at you because we were going to be in the same exact spot.
9:49At that point, we would have both lost our 9 and 10 spot games at the same time.
9:55So I'm pretty sure the comments would have completely annihilated us this week as far as how many points they got.
10:01It'll just be me. It'll just be me. Probably.
10:04I'm just trying to get 40 points in one week one of these times.
10:08That'd be great. The Friday show is going to be must-watch YouTube television for you guys, just so you know.
10:15It's going to be bad. It's going to be real bad.
10:18But yeah, man, I mean, like, how does that happen with Philly?
10:22Like, just kick the touchback. Like, you got it.
10:24We talked about special teams, I feel like, so many times already on this show and how this feels like we kind
10:31of say it tongue-in-cheek, but it's not. It's like the year of special teams, the top of the show where I said
10:38the margin for error is so small. It always is in the NFL, but this year it feels smaller than ever.
10:45And if you're not winning in the little margins, including how you're handling special teams, this is the stuff that can happen.
10:52And the thing that gets me is the return that they popped, it was the same return formation that the opening kickoff
10:58of the game, which ultimately didn't count because of penalties and you had, like, ejections and everything like that.
11:04That opening kickoff return for touchdown was the same return formation.
11:08It was flipped, right? It was a strong return to the right rather than to the left.
11:13And it's a very simple return, right? You're just double-teaming the number four.
11:17You allow the number three to kind of shoot up field.
11:20The opposite return man that isn't catching the ball, he then becomes a lead on the one.
11:26And you just almost kind of create this fold blocks, very similar to a running play.
11:31And then you pop it and you got one man to beat and that's the kicker.
11:36Like, they already gave up a touchdown doing that early this game.
11:39And the only returns that they really stopped, it was like middle returns where they got, I don't know, 15, 18 yards.
11:46But as soon as they saw that same formation, which the Jags went back to because they already popped it in the
11:53game, they're like, we need a big return. Let's do the same thing.
11:57At that point, somebody should have raised their hand.
12:00It was like, hey, we already gave up one with this exact same formation.
12:04Kick the touchback. And they just didn't. I have no idea why they didn't do it.
12:09And you know what? I think everybody's going to talk about the touchback and how they should have kicked the touchback there.
12:16This probably doesn't happen if you do it. And, you know, Sirianni talked afterwards about, you know, it being on him and everything.
12:23Brett, I'd be more upset if I was an Eagles fan about how we got there and how there was even time left on the clock.
12:31Because if you go to the last series and the last four downs that the Eagles had when it came to kicking the field goal, all right?
12:40It's first and 10. Jacksonville has one timeout. Philadelphia has one timeout.
12:43And on first and 10, they throw to the sideline.
12:47It's almost intercepted. Then, okay, it's second and 10.
12:49Four seconds ran off the clock. So there's 21 seconds left in the game.
12:54Again, Jacksonville still has a timeout. It's at Jacksonville's 34-yard line.
12:57You're already well within field goal range. They call an outbreaking route for Makai Lemon.
13:02Okay, so he catches the football. Sure, great. Completion.
13:05He runs out of bounds. Jacksonville doesn't have to call the timeout now.
13:09Then on third and three, it's a run play that you kind of watch the offensive line.
13:14They're not really trying to get the first down.
13:17They're just trying to set up the field goal for the position that they want it.
13:22Then after the run play, Jacksonville takes their timeout.
13:24There's 12 seconds left in the game. They kick the field goal.
13:28Now there's eight seconds left in the game. But Brett, what bothers me here is that there were still eight seconds left in the game.
13:36I know that they don't have Saquon. I know the offensive line isn't great.
13:40But what this really comes down to, to me, is Jalen Hurts and the unwillingness or lack of preference that he has
13:47for throwing over the middle of the field. So Brett, if he throws that ball to Dallas Goddard, that's all you needed.
13:54Like you didn't need to get to the first down mark.
13:57You should have seen the cushion, been able to take the cushion.
14:01It's over the middle of the field. You're forcing Jacksonville to then burn that timeout on second down.
14:07You're in the same situation. And then because you still have a timeout, you get to run the ball, bring it down
14:14to two seconds left, call the timeout, kick the field goal, boom, we're going home.
14:18Fish and chips for everybody. That's the in the margin stuff.
14:22And when you go back to Jalen Hurts, you remember that Tennessee Titans game where they had that comeback win in week two?
14:29Guess what most of the concepts were? Outside the numbers.
14:32Because when the back is against the wall, I feel like they go, Jalen, let's just do what you are most comfortable with.
14:39And it worked for the Titans game because they marched down the field, they scored the touchdown they needed, and they won.
14:46But even though it quote unquote worked, here in this game, it didn't work as well as it could have or should
14:53have for them to win the game. And I think that that is just an observation that I've had with Hurts where
15:00even when it looks good, it's not as good as it could be because you've got to be able to take advantage over the middle of the field.
15:08And in this situation, if they would have been able to do that, Philadelphia wins this game and not Jacksonville.
15:14It's results over process compounded over years. Yes. Right.
15:17And we actually have data on this. It's not just us saying, trust me, bro, he doesn't throw over the middle of the field.
15:25NextGenStats was able to create a stat for us because of all the tracking data.
15:29They have the concept data. They have the target data.
15:33Like they have all that data. So let's just create a new stat table that we can reference.
15:38And it's the percentage of a quarterback's dropbacks that feature an intermediate in-breaking route over the middle of the field.
15:44And then we compare that to the percentage of those routes that they're actually targeting.
15:49If you look at Jalen last year, different OC, different personnel, 41% of his dropbacks featured an intermediate in-breaker, which was the fourth lowest rate in the NFL.
15:58So part of it, okay, was on the structure of the offense.
16:01And yet when they did have an intermediate in-breaker, he only threw it 17% of the time, which was the 10th lowest rate.
16:09So it was kind of both in that regard.
16:11Now 49% of his dropbacks feature an intermediate in-breaking route.
16:14That's 15th lowest. Let's just call it dead average in the league, right?
16:19He's still throwing it at a 16% rate. That's eighth lowest.
16:22He's actually throwing it less this year, even with an offense that's calling it more.
16:27So like this isn't just us talking out of our, he's not throwing it.
16:31We don't know why he's never done it. If you go back to 2020, right?
16:36When he came into the league, he has the lowest rate of targeting the middle of the field at all, whether it's deep, intermediate, short.
16:43He does it 18% of the time since 2020.
16:46He doesn't throw over the middle and defenses know that.
16:49Yeah. They call coverages specifically to play the sidelines because they know he doesn't like to do it.
16:55Whether it's been Kevin Petulo at OC or Sean Mannion or Kellen Moore, whoever, whoever, every single year, it feels like the
17:02Eagles offense kind of devolves into this. And I feel like at some point, the only thing linking all of these years
17:09together is the quarterback, not the OC. Yeah. And I mean, this is two weeks in a row now for the Eagles
17:15because they've blown having a 94% or higher win probability in the fourth quarter and haven't been able to come away with the win.
17:23And look, I know that people are probably tired of, Oh, Jalen Hurts doesn't throw her the middle.
17:28It's all anybody talks about, but hopefully this was a tangible way that we could point out to you guys that where what Jalen Hurts does works.
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19:16Any thoughts on this game from any other big player performances?
19:19I mean, another great Parker Washington day. Jalen Carter was unbelievable in this game, but we got a lot of other player performances.
19:27So any thoughts on those guys before we move on to some other games?
19:31So Parker Washington apparently was offered $25 million a year this offseason, turned it down, bet on himself, and that bet is paying off.
19:38Six catches, buck 24, two touchdowns, his late touchdown, the completion probability on that was 21.7%, and he pulled it in.
19:45He is the number one in Jacksonville, and I think he's going to get paid like a number one receiver this offseason, whether it's in Jacksonville or elsewhere.
19:54But if I'm the Jags, how could I let him go with what he does for Trevor?
19:59Other Trevor. Long hair Trevor. You can't. And me.
20:02I mean, he's on a couple of my fantasy teams.
20:05What do you mean? And for me. And for me.
20:08Let's talk about the Patriots and the Raiders next.
20:11Patriots win this game 45-17. I'm not really too worried about this from a Raiders perspective.
20:16You and I have talked about how we are excited for this team, but they're not quite there yet.
20:22And we've talked about and mentioned how, okay, yeah, big time struggles for Drake May early on in the season.
20:28Big time bounce back performance here for Drake May.
20:3126-34, 374 yards, four touchdowns, no interceptions, and also had a rushing touchdown as well.
20:35Brett, what really stands out to me in this game was two things.
20:39And it's two sides of, I think, the same coin that we're having this conversation.
20:44How Drake May continues to look when you present him with press coverage opportunities where he could take advantage of close coverage
20:51and just bet on his guys one-on-one, mainly to the outside, the numbers and sideline parts of the field.
20:57Because in this game, most of May's passing production came against press coverage.
21:01118 of his 374 yards came when targeting pressed receivers.
21:04And the Raiders played it a lot. And so that was my big takeaway is, I kind of looked at the Raiders'
21:11defense game plan and I went, why? Like, you look at how May struggled early on in the year.
21:17It was that cover six look. It was softer coverage.
21:20It was deeper zone coverage where he'd have to really think about who, I mean, if you're one-on-one in press coverage, Drake May does that in sleep.
21:28We talked about this last week. He didn't get a ton of man coverage looks.
21:33He didn't get a ton of press coverage looks.
21:36But when he did, guess what? He took advantage of it.
21:39It's a big reason why they won that game last week.
21:42And I'm just very confused as to why the Raiders decided to go with that type of game plan, given how good
21:49Drake May is when you are in press coverage.
21:52So, that was a big surprise to me. But kudos to Drake May.
21:56When you give him the chance to bet on his receivers, he's going to do it.
22:01And history tells us he's going to do it pretty well.
22:04And to me, I think the press-heavy nature of this defense, no matter what the coverage call was, was in response to
22:11all of the chips that the Patriots were doing.
22:14Even before Will got injured, there was a really high chip rate against these Raiders' edges by the Patriots because they were
22:21trying to buy time for Drake to stretch the field.
22:24And so the Raiders were like, if you're disrupting us and buying time, we're going to disrupt you and buy time back.
22:31Like, literally on the edges of the field, right?
22:34Against the receivers. The thing is, though, you have to actually be able to disrupt these receivers and keep them from winning vertically down the field.
22:42Because if you don't, and Drake is kept clean because these Raiders' edges are getting chipped, and so he has a clean
22:49pocket, he's just going to put the ball wherever he wants to, deep and outside the numbers.
22:54We saw that in the Kyle Williams touchdown, which while it did look like it was against man coverage, it was a quarters look.
23:01He had three touchdowns against quarters today. He was like seven for eight for 117 and three tuts.
23:07Just against quarters. Because of the nature of that man-to-man on the outside.
23:11He eats this coverage alive because it's just one-on-one, right?
23:14So, the fact that the Raiders even gave him that opportunity, to me, was a mistake.
23:19And I think the fact that they responded to those chips with trying to disrupt these receivers in their own right, that's
23:26a mistake against this particular quarterback and these particular receivers.
23:29They did not play them correctly, and they got lit up as a result.
23:33100%. And sort of like I said at the beginning, I think that this is more of a compliment to what the Patriots were able to do in.
23:42I don't really see the Raiders in too different of a light.
23:46Although, an interesting note here for the Raiders is Fernando Mendoza did get in the game in this one because the score was so different.
23:54He was 6 for 8. 48 passing yards. Garbage time, obviously.
23:57But we're actually going to do a little video short later.
24:00We'll break down. It's limited action for Fernando Mendoza, so we didn't want to do like a full breakdown here on the show.
24:08But we'll have something later coming up on the channel so you guys can watch out for that.
24:13Because it is exciting that Fernando Mendoza got into the game for the first time.
24:18Another note before we button up this game here.
24:21May had six players who caught at least three passes.
24:24And that's the sign of a confident quarterback. That's the sign of somebody who is confident about wherever he's going to throw the football.
24:31And I think you feel that confident because you feel that confident against what the defense is presenting you against your receiver.
24:38So, let's move on to the next game. The Green Bay Packers.
24:42Man, speaking of games that had a difference on the scoreboard.
24:4531-7 here with the Chicago Bears. I think the main storyline is Jordan Love and how good he looked in this game.
24:52You want to talk about... We just talked about when May is feeling confident in what he is seeing.
24:58Jordan Love is always as confident as he possibly can be when he is that fadeaway deep ball passer.
25:04And in this game, he could not have been more than that in the best way.
25:09completed six of eight passes of 20 or more air yards for a career-high 258 yards on those deep passes.
25:15Two touchdowns. That's also the most deep completions of 20 or more air yards of any quarterback this season in a single game.
25:22And it's a career-high in a single game for Jordan Love as well.
25:26Only Russell Wilson, who had 264 yards in Week 2 of 2025, had more deep passing yards in a single game in the NGS era.
25:34So all that to say, Brad, as I said on Twitter, there's always ammo in the rocket launcher when you're Jordan Love.
25:41It doesn't matter what the game script is. It doesn't matter whether you're up, down, by 30, by 40, by 1, by 2.
25:48Rain, sleet, shine. He'd be playing on Antarctica. It doesn't matter.
25:51If there's a deep pass to be had, Jordan Love is going to throw it.
25:56And again, I think that you get the results that you have today when he is playing that confidently because that's how
26:03Jordan Love wants to play the game. Yeah, just a casual 32 yards per attempt on deep passes in this game.
26:09Which is nuts, dude. Just nuts. I mean, it helps when you have Christian Watson and Matthew Golden.
26:15And Matthew Golden, I think, has actually been kind of underappreciated this season.
26:19It feels like every time I watch a Packers game, he's doing something cool.
26:23Also, side note before we move on, the entire NFC North after this game is above 500.
26:29You have three teams that are 3-2, and you have one team that's 5-0.
26:33So we thought this division was going to be really good before the season.
26:37They're definitely really good as a whole. They're not good in the ways that we thought they would be, but the record is the record, I guess.
26:46It's definitely wacky. Technically, the Bears are last in the NFC North right now.
26:50Which, by the way, I'm not worried about the Bears at all, really.
26:54Like, I know they got killed in this game.
26:57It wasn't pretty. To me, it was a really bad day for their safeties.
27:01We already kind of knew the defense was going to be not one of the better defenses in the NFL, if I do say so, so politely.
27:10But they've been better than I thought that they would as a unit for the majority of the first quarter of this season.
27:17This is just a really bad day, I think, for all deep coverage.
27:21Again, specifically, I don't think the safeties had a really good day for them.
27:25And Jordan Love picked them apart. So, to me, it was kind of a perfect storm of what went wrong in Chicago.
27:32I'm not worried about this team long-term. By the way, most passing yards by a Packers quarterback versus the Bears specifically at Lambeau Field.
27:40Jordan Love, 367 yards on Sunday. Number one on the list.
27:43Had a Brett Favre, had Aaron Rodgers, had a Lynn Dickey, who had 345 in 1983.
27:48Let's go. May we never forget? Actually, unfortunately, we might forget it now because Jordan Love's now at the top of that list.
27:55I'm shocked that Aaron never did that in all those years at Lambeau.
27:59Aaron had 341, so he had a lot in 2021.
28:02Before we move on from this game, I want to give one more note about a Packers receiver destroying the Bears.
28:09This is the first time a Packers receiver has got multiple 40-plus yard touchdowns in a single game since Jordy Nelson, was
28:16it 12 years ago, also conveniently against the Bears.
28:18So it's... This was a pretty significant performance by Christian Watson.
28:22He's also the only player in the NFL to have multiple 140-plus yard games with multiple touchdowns, so he is on an absolute tear right now.
28:30one of the most productive players in any position in the NFL in this young season.
28:35Speaking of, receivers, by the way... Yes? We should talk about Marvin Harrison Jr.
28:39getting traded. It broke right after the Texans-Titans game was over.
28:43Yes. All right, we traded for Marvin Harrison. See ya.
28:46So the whole all-in or all-out in the season hinged on beating the Titans, right?
28:50Yeah, basically. That's how we followed it. If they would have lost to the Titans and it would have been 0-5, this trade doesn't happen.
28:58But because they beat the Titans, which I think is kind of funny because the Jags are now 4-1, the Texans are
29:051-4, the chances of winning the division are extremely slim for them, so you're now all-in just to make the wild card.
29:12They feel, because they still have two games against the Jags, they can steal that margin back from them.
29:18They hold their own destiny. Sure, sure, sure, sure.
29:21That's how they look at it, right? And just last year, they were 0-3 to start and still made the playoffs with 12 wins.
29:28So they know they can go on a run here.
29:31I think they won like nine straight at one point last year.
29:35I mean, for them, the key thing is, hey, our quarterback is playing really well.
29:40Right, right, yeah. So why don't we lean into that?
29:43I just thought it was funny that the Titans game specifically was the we're all in or we're all out after this game.
29:50Well, I think it's if you lose to Tennessee this year, you're like, oh, we're just bad.
29:55Yeah, yeah. Which, by the way, man, I mean, Tennessee, I think we'll have a much longer conversation about the Titans when
30:02we start to talk about teams that are maybe turning the page and we're looking at the offseason because I think that's
30:09sort of where we're at with the Titans. But for the Texans, they get, I'll call it an easy win.
30:15It's an easy win. And then after the game, they trade for Marvin Harrison Jr.
30:20Now, the compensation for this trade, a 2027 seventh round pick comes with Marvin Harrison Jr.
30:25So Marvin Harrison in a 2027 seventh round pick going to the Houston Texans and going to the Arizona Cardinals is a
30:31second round pick this upcoming draft and then a sixth round pick.
30:35So a late round pick swap, but mainly you are looking at a second round pick type of value for Marvin Harrison
30:42who was obviously picked number four overall. So that's not a great return on investment for the Cardinals specifically, but he was
30:49getting outplayed and he has been getting outplayed basically since he got there.
30:53So overall, your thoughts on the trade and your thoughts on the fit here with the Houston Texans?
30:58I don't think this trade happens if Jaden Higgins doesn't get hurt before the season starts.
31:03I'm with you, which is why I'm a little, I'm a little skeptical of the overall value of a second round pick
31:10here because I look, Higgins got hurt. I get it.
31:13He tore his ACL. It's nothing that's light, but man, I feel like we're I feel like we're seeing players all across
31:20the league over the last two or three years, not just come back from ACL injuries, but like come back and play
31:27really, really well just because of how things are with surgeries and rehab and everything.
31:32So I was, I was a little shocked at them giving up a second round pick for Marvin Harrison Jr.
31:38knowing that a year from now, you kind of now just have two players who play the exact same position, but I
31:45suppose they really didn't want Nico Collins playing the X at all.
31:49So maybe more X receivers, the better in this offense potentially.
31:52Not that Nico can't play the X. Obviously, he can play the X.
31:56When Nico is on the ball, he has a yards per route run of 2.2, which is very solid.
32:02The thing is, when Nico's off the ball and you give him space to work, especially because he is a big, strong
32:09receiver, like if he's not disrupted and he just gets rolling, he overwhelms corners.
32:13Nico's at a Z spot or in the slot.
32:16If he's off the ball, his yards per route run goes from 2.2 to 4.1, which is ridiculous.
32:21But you kind of have to put him on the ball if you don't have anybody else that you feel comfortable with being an X receiver.
32:30And Marvin Harrison Jr., while he hasn't reached the potential that we thought he could coming out of Ohio State, when he's
32:36on the ball, he's at 1.9 yards per route run.
32:39When he's off the ball, he's at 0.9 yards per route run, which is a not good number at all.
32:46So Marvin really does thrive being on the ball.
32:49And so you just kind of park him there at X and you have Nico be, you know, the queen on the
32:55chessboard that can move all over the place. Xavier Hutchinson can still contribute.
32:59Obviously, Jalen Noel can still contribute. But I think they needed to get that X receiver.
33:04And as for the compensation, if they lost to Tennessee and they go at 0-5 and they don't make the playoffs, I
33:11think Casario and D'Amico were thinking, would we even be around to use those picks anyway?
33:16Right? Not to say that they're on the hot seat, but you can get on the hot seat pretty quick here.
33:23I hear what you're saying. Look, I'm more skeptical of this and maybe I shouldn't have this much face of a guy
33:30coming off of an ACL tear, but I thought Jaden Higgins looked good.
33:34I thought he was progressing. Certainly before he got hurt, I was really excited about Jaden Higgins this season.
33:39And Brett, Jaden Higgins is a better athlete than Marvin Harris Jr.
33:43is. I know neither of them are super great separators, but you look at Jaden Higgins and just his overall like combine
33:50profile here, 60 and 65th percentile when it came to 40-yard dash and 10-yard split, but then vertical jump, I mean, 85th
33:57percentile vertical jump, 85th percentile broad jump. This is an explosive athlete.
34:01So if you're going to say, hey, we want somebody on the line of scrimmage to be our X receiver who's going
34:07to be our vertical player to free up Nico Collins, I tell you, Jaden Higgins does that better than Marvin Harrison Jr.
34:14At least right now. You're not wrong, but I think the Texans know better than most other teams that you can go
34:21from a really deep receiving core to having absolutely nobody really quickly.
34:25I think of a year from now, it's Nico Collins, it's Jaden Higgins, it's Jalen Noel playing the slot, and then you
34:32get to draft another receiver as every team does every single year because wide receiver is so deep coming out of college.
34:39So I'm just, I'm a little bit more skeptical about it, but I will say this, if you're just going to be
34:45a contested catch receiver, which I kind of think that Marvin Harrison Jr.
34:49is just a contested catch receiver in the NFL, you might as well be a contested catch receiver with a quarterback that
34:56you have good chemistry with because that's the only way that works.
35:00And Harrison has chemistry with CJ Stroud going back to that 2022 season when they were playing together when Harrison Jr.
35:07was a sophomore and CJ was a junior, I believe.
35:10So I suppose that's the catalyst for it as well is that you're hoping that you're unlocking that chemistry that they had.
35:16In the last 15 to 17 years, there's only been three top five overall draft picks that have been traded in their
35:23first three seasons and they were Aaron Curry, Trent Richardson, and Trey Lance.
35:27So hopefully this doesn't end up like that. And look, Arizona was very, very willing to give up on him because you
35:34have Trey McBride and you have Michael Wilson, right?
35:37And I think they wanted Marvin Harrison Jr. to be a lot more than a contested catch player because they have the contested catch player in Trey McBride.
35:46But man, when this trade happened, I went back and I watched some Ohio State stuff back from 2022, some of the
35:53highlights just from CJ and Marvin Harrison Jr. It's kind of crazy how much more talented that Ohio State team is than basically everybody that they played against.
36:01I'm skeptical of them giving up the second round pick, but hey, you're one in four.
36:06CJ is playing better. You hope that your defense bounces back and obviously they're just hoping that this isn't a wasted year.
36:13So you pay a little bit of a premium for this to not be more of a wasted year.
36:19But I don't know, maybe I'm just too much of a Jaden Higgins fan to let this sit well with me.
36:25I will say a lot of people on the internet have said this is why we don't give the generational label to
36:32prospects because we don't know until they get to the NFL.
36:36You're correct. But that being said, there is an actual generational receiver coming out of Ohio State this year.
36:42We talk about him a lot in the spring.
36:44Even watching Marvin Jr.'s tape at Ohio State compared to Jeremiah Smith.
36:48Let's go back to some top performances that we had this week highlighting some of these games.
36:53The Pittsburgh Steelers got a victory over the Indianapolis Colts.
36:5734-22 in this game. The star, look, I know when we talk about the Steelers, sometimes we're talking about the defensive line,
37:03we're talking about Aaron Rodgers, we're talking about a lot of kinds of stuff.
37:08Dude, Jalen Warren is a story this season. How well he is playing and specifically in this game how fantastic he was.
37:1515 carries, 101 rushing yards, one touchdown, 50 yards over expected.
37:18and he also ran 24 routes, 6 targets, 6 catches, 87 receiving yards and a touchdown there as well.
37:24Dude, I love Jalen Warren's style of play because when you go watch some of the big plays from him in this
37:31game, Brett, there's inside zone, there's manning gap scheme blocking concepts, there's some outside zone, there's swing passes, there's routes that he's running out of the backfield.
37:39He does it all and the reason why is because he's a high IQ football player, he's got great vision, fantastic contact
37:46balance, light on his feet, his 59 rushing yards after missed tackles this week are second only to Bucky Irving and everybody
37:53watched the Thursday night football game where Bucky had that insane run where it was a forced missed tackle and then a
38:00cutback and then he's just off to the races.
38:02So outside of that Bucky Irving run, Jalen Warren did it better than anybody that wasn't named Bucky Irving this week and
38:09so had to give him his flowers with how the Steelers were able to get a win over the Colts and him being a big reason why.
38:18And he's been like that all year, right? Even coming into this week, he was among the league leaders in terms of
38:25missed tackles Forrest as well as yardage after missed tackles like he and Kenneth Walker were, you know, pretty close to each
38:31other in that metric and Kenneth has been obviously incredible this year as well.
38:36Warren, fun fact, became the first player with an 80 yard receiving touchdown and a 50 yard rushing touchdown in the same
38:43game since Herschel Walker versus the Eagles in 1986.
38:45Because they still have two games against the Jags, they can steal that margin back from them.
38:51They hold their own destiny. Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.
38:54That's how they look at it, right? And just last year, so we are talking 40 years since a player's done that for any team against anyone.
39:02That's awesome. It's just a ridiculous, ridiculous performance. He's been awesome this year.
39:06He led the team in rushing and receiving. He led the team in rushing and receiving today.
39:11That's amazing. He's incredible. He's incredible. And that's what's really hard.
39:15I think one of the underrated races this year is all pro for running back.
39:20Who do you pick? Right? B. John's going off this year.
39:23Kenneth Walker's been going off. Jalen Warren. I mean, the running backs across the league are just putting on a show.
39:29I can't pick one. Yeah, man. You didn't even mention Gibbs, did you?
39:34No. You didn't even mention Jimmy Gibbs and Jimmy Gibbs, he went nuclear in his game as well.
39:39I mean, when you go to this Lions game against the Cardinals, it wasn't very close.
39:44It was 45 to 21. But Gibbs, again, man, 25 carries, 151 rushing yards, two touchdowns, 6.0 yards per carry average, almost
39:5150 rushing yards over expected from him as well.
39:54Gibbs, six targets, five receptions, 56 receiving yards. It just feels like every single time the ball is in his hand, you
40:01just, you have to stop what you're doing. because you might be about to watch something extremely special in this game.
40:07And he has also been unbelievable and it's a reason why Detroit's offense is what it is.
40:12Detroit's offense has to pick up their defense for any game that they want to win this season, but oh boy, they're
40:19thankful that they have Jameer Gibbs to be able to do that.
40:23Don't tell Kelvin Shepard that. Look, man, I just read the stats.
40:27Yeah, that's all I'm doing. I'm just, I'm here on this show.
40:30Anything that you put on that teleprompter, sick of a will read when it comes to the stats and how teams are doing this season.
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42:20Yeah, he's, he's so deadly with his legs and he's always been that kind of guy when he's in space where he
42:27just, somebody put it today, I can't remember who, that he just exhausts defenses because he's so hard to kind of hem
42:34in when he's in space and he just makes you cut over and over and over again to keep up with his quickness and he wears people out.
42:42That's how he gets a lot of his rushing guard.
42:45It's not breaking tackles. It's not running over people.
42:48He just tires you out with his shiftiness and especially in, you know, third and long situations or in high leverage situations,
42:55he has this knack for just getting the exact amount of yardage that he needs.
43:00I do wish as a passer we could get him to throw over the middle more going into this week.
43:06The Vikings had the fourth highest rate of intermediate middle routes as far as the percentage of his dropbacks.
43:12Fourth highest rate featuring an intermediate middle route and yet he's thrown them at the lowest rate in the NFL so that's still a thing, right?
43:20That was a problem in Arizona. We always talked about it and it's still a problem in Minnesota.
43:25They're trying to get him to throw over the middle and he's just not doing it but if all else fails if
43:32you still have that mobility in your back pocket it's a pretty good back pocket card to have.
43:38I think that what I was impressed with him today against the Saints was the way that he was going through progressions.
43:45I felt as though he was willing to hold on to the ball and where Kyler will scramble and he's not the
43:52tallest quarterback in the NFL so sometimes he's got to get on motion to make sure that he can see everything that's
43:58going on in front of him including the middle of the field but he's able to go through those progressions and I
44:05didn't feel like he was panicking while doing so and that's why I felt like it was a really good performance for him.
44:12I think he is settling in to where his receivers are going to be the timing of that and it was always
44:19going to take a little bit of a time but it's good to see he is getting better and that week five
44:26was the best performance I think of his season there for the Vikings.
44:30I know we've done this every single week we should talk about Justin Herbert again and just how sloppy this has looked
44:37the fumbles were a problem once more the inaccuracy the decision making dude the interception in the second half I mean again
44:44it's he's staring at the defender he's staring at the defender I don't know what to do man I don't either it's
44:51bad I don't know who this is I know but we're five weeks into the season and it still looks like this
44:57I don't are they going to blow it up?
45:00I don't yeah I don't even know at this point because you know if there was a if there was a generational
45:07quarterback type of a prospect right if there was a Trevor Lawrence if there was an Andrew Luck right if there was
45:14somebody like that who you were guaranteed at number one overall the Chargers are 0-5 and it still looks ugly for this
45:21team and they're extremely beat up by injuries the offensive line that they tried it out there I mean I love that
45:28the young guys are getting experience but my goodness that's not a recipe to win football games I mean Herbert's been pressured
45:34on 43.8% of his dropbacks this season second highest rate among qualified quarterbacks and above his previous career high which was 41.2%
45:41last season so we already talked about all the different combinations of offensive lines that the Chargers have had and that part
45:48of it's not getting any easier for Justin Herbert but he's also making it hard it's almost like Herbert I don't want
45:55to say he's giving up because that's not fair and that's not the words that I want to use but it's almost
46:02like you could tell he's worn down he's worn down of either playing in the offense that he was playing in last
46:09year the pressure that he was getting this year it's no different now they're sitting here at 0-5 the vibes couldn't be
46:15worse and again going back to if Arch Manning kind of had become the prospect that we thought that he was going
46:22to become which he absolutely has not yet maybe you think about blowing the whole thing up but I still I don't
46:29think they're going to do it I don't think they're going to do it we have such a large sample size of
46:36Justin Herbert being great I'm not ready to ditch it after five games I'm not either because I want to be I
46:43want to be very clear because I saw people talking about this on social media Justin Herbert right now full contract full
46:50context everything Justin Herbert's QB1 in this class not even close not in a I guess we can talk about Mestamaker when
46:56we get there because he's put some good stuff on and Mestamaker is great I don't think it's close Justin Herbert I
47:03would still take him over any quarterback in this class I'm not saying that Mestamaker would make me move off Justin Herbert
47:10I'm just saying in this class that might be the best you're going to get I think so maybe right and so
47:17I'm still not moving off Justin Herbert but I guess the question I want to ask is is anyone else in the
47:24building safe literally anybody else no not right now certainly you got a lot of season left to go but right now
47:31no no I don't think anybody's safe in that building also just to kind of preempt the Broncos fans in the chat
47:37who I know are vigorously typing right now you can't just talk about one team here talk about the team that won
47:44I agree the defense was amazing they were very good in this game yes 10 pressures in the second half 4 sacks
47:51in the second half we have talked over and over and over again about how this Broncos defense when you get after
47:58halftime they just turn into a completely new nightmare for opposing offense they're great adjustments oh my god we talked earlier in
48:05the year about how some fans like to be like where were the adjustments in the second half and a lot of
48:12times it's not really a thing you maybe go about executing a game plan a little bit differently but a lot of
48:19times you know you can go into a week and it's kind of like hey this is how we saw this team
48:25this is how we're going to match up against this team we got to execute it a little bit better but the
48:32Broncos kind of feels like they have that good of a defense and that good of a defense coordinator to be able
48:39to do it because that's what they did to Trevor Lawrence in week two they switched up and they're like alright fine
48:46we're going to play more aggressive you're killing us against zone guess what we're going to do we're going to play way
48:53more man in the second half and it worked alright a few more games we want to touch on before we get
49:00out of here have to start with the Jets beating the Browns in dramatic fashion right this game had a little bit
49:06of everything I think it was the David Bailey game that everybody's been kind of waiting for nine pressures including five quick
49:13pressures three sacks in this game on 28 rushes which was a 32.1% pressure rate he even got a sack on a
49:20power move which we weren't sure if he had that in his bag coming into the league because he was really more
49:27of a speed guy first I want to ask you as our resident draft guru where were you at on Bailey pre-draft
49:34and did you think he had this in him so I had Bailey as a top 20 player like everybody did but
49:41I was a little bit lower on him because when I watched him at Texas Tech his first step exposed to this
49:47is unbelievable and I think that's one of the most important traits for an edge rusher but I felt like he was
49:54kind of only that when he was in college and it was so good that it just kind of feasted on a
50:01lot of the bad offensive tackles that he went up against in college so this is a diverse game for him and
50:08I think that this was his best game from what I saw this was David Bailey's best game because what he needs
50:15to do is of course convert that first step into power to round out his game a little bit more and I
50:22felt like this was there were some stats that people pointed to with him through the first four weeks of the season
50:28where I was like kind of lying to you a little bit there but this game I think was the most legit
50:35game from David Bailey so far in his career Bengals Dolphins Dolphins have obviously started a ton of rookies so far this
50:42year I would say with fairly positive results all things considered but they are still a work in progress very much so
50:49a work in progress and sometimes you run into Joe Burrow having a Joe Burrow kind of day four touchdowns from him
50:56this game I think it was closer on paper than it was when I was actually watching it but I still every
51:03single week I see glimpses I see glimpses of what the Dolphins are building towards I just acknowledge they're probably not going
51:09to win a lot of games but they will be good TV I guess is the best way that I'll describe it
51:16they're not going to get blown out a lot because they do have a bunch of young exciting talent but they're probably
51:23a year away from being a year away yeah the Bengals never dipped below 75% of a win probability from NGS in
51:30this game Malik Willis just is not consistent enough I think that there are moments again where you can see things from
51:37the Dolphins but this is such a young team they're playing so many rookies and Malik just doesn't have that consistency yet
51:44it's hard to really see them beating teams of the Bengals caliber but on the Bengals side of things for as much
51:51as it is like hey let's play the Bengals big game big game on offense I'm still kind of worried overall about
51:57this run game because where Samadji P. Ryan had 14 carries 68 yards 4.9 yards per carry average Chase Brown who they
52:04would like to be their bell cow back 13 carries 39 rushing yards 3.0 yards per carry average and we're coming off
52:11of a week where they really struggled to get anything going on the ground at all and even for a quarterback like
52:18Joe Burrow with the receivers that he has at his disposal you can't be so one-dimensional in this league and beat really
52:25good football teams and so I'm still worried about that Bengals run game a little bit moving forward somehow we've gone this
52:32entire show without talking about it so we might as well do it now Commanders Giants that ending sequence there's no excuse
52:38there's absolutely no excuse I know Dan Quinn took responsibility and you know Jaden took responsibility in his way even though in
52:45the presser he did say yeah it starts from the top down but ultimately it's on me I would have just said
52:52the second part of that sentence ultimately it is on you like whether you get told over the headset hey let's spike
52:59this or hey let's throw a quick completion whether they tell you to do it or not over the headset you should
53:06just know to do it like you're the one with the ball so I yeah I don't like that answer in the
53:13presser either way it was bad it was just bad I don't know how much speculating that I want to do over
53:19words that weren't actually said but it does seem like a situation where I think Dan Quinn wanted Jaden to be a
53:26little bit more aware of the situation and I think that Jaden was like man I'm trying to think of a million
53:33things how do you not just like say that to me amongst the other things that you're saying here and I think
53:40that it really it did seem like there was a little bit of okay yes the majority of the time they were
53:47trying to take responsibility for it and they were like no no it's on me but they both let a little bit
53:54like Jaden said the thing about yeah it's a top down and then Dan Quinn was answering a question and Dan Quinn
54:00was basically like yeah the ball's got to come out it's got to be a spike or it's got to be out
54:07and he said it very confidently and I don't know again I don't want to I don't want to put words in
54:14anybody's mouth but it was a situation where however we get there it has to be better executed and I and I
54:21think that both of those guys are right when they do say it's on me because I think that both of them
54:28obviously could have handled it better to not end that game the way that it is because that's that's pretty inexcusable that
54:35Washington didn't at least get a field goal off to try to win that game where does the buck stop though in
54:41that situation does it stop with the coach or does it stop with the quarterback yes me I think it stops the
54:48quarterback I would say because you're on the field you got the ball I think the quarterbacks got to understand I was
54:55a little surprised at how lackadaisical it felt with them the way that they were taking all the time off the clock
55:02I don't want to be hypocritical here because I talked about y'all Philly needed to do a better job of that but
55:09they had a little bit more control there I wonder if Jaden in his head just the way that they were operating
55:16things thought they still had a time out but even if he thought that you got yeah I think that he did
55:23as well and I think that even with that context you have to say dude you have to know that you don't
55:29have a time out there you are the quarterback you have the ball in your hand I think ultimately he has to
55:36know what to do with the football I know he's young I do but these are the kind of situations that you
55:43look back on at the end of the season and if you're a game away from missing the playoffs or in this
55:50case a half game away from missing the playoffs and you think back to just the tiniest little thing like either remembering
55:57that we don't have a time out or just remembering to spike the ball if we go an entire season and that's
56:04the difference between making the playoffs and not I would just be sick to my stomach and obviously we're recording the show
56:10before Monday Night Football and we got Rams Bills on Monday Night Football huge game in prime time here Brett any overall
56:17thoughts on that game before it happens I've said it before I'll say it again this is a game where we are
56:24going to see some astonishing throws truly astonishing throws and also the dumbest turnover of the year book it guarantee it we
56:31are going to see an abomination of an interception and we see enough already this week in week five haven't we seen
56:38enough turnovers you know it's coming I think that's a great way to preview this game because it's going to be must
56:45watch television whether it's good or bad it's going to be must watch television either way between the Bills and the Rams
56:51appreciate everybody watching this reaction show a lot from this show game management stuff again special teams teams forming their identities sometimes
56:58bucking some trends man that's what it's all about so we're five weeks in the season we're learning a lot we're having
57:05a lot of fun we appreciate you that you guys are here along for the ride for the producers making it all
57:12happen behind the scenes because this is always a beast of a show every single time that we record it to get
57:19ready for the Monday release shout out to them all of the great footage that they find for us the stats all
57:26that great stuff appreciate that all of them doing that for Brett Coleman as well Trevor Sikkema saying thanks so much for
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