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Are NFL Offenses Broken? | Week 4 Reactions

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57 min
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Oct 5, 2026
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Mon, October 5, 2026
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Jalen HurtsAthan KaliakmanisBo NixC.J. StroudCam WardChase BrownDak PrescottDaniel JonesDerrick HenryGeorge PickensJa'Marr ChaseJoe BurrowJonathan TaylorJustin Herbert
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Athan Kaliakmanis

NegativeProjection49:03

Kaliakmanis came in as the Commanders' third-string QB after Marcus Mariota went out in Week 4 and had some really nice throws once he got warmed up, though it took him a little while to get acclimated.

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Bo Nix

NegativeProjection45:57

Nix completed just 1 of 9 passes downfield of 10+ air yards for 30 yards in Week 4 and did not attempt a deep pass of 20+ air yards until under two minutes in the fourth quarter; the source criticizes the Broncos' overly conservative approach, noting that with an average air yards per attempt deep into the second half of under four yards, you cannot win football games.

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C.J. Stroud

PositiveProjection31:58

C.J. Stroud posted a 126.7 passer rating, 11.2 yards per attempt, 14.2% completion percentage over expected, and 57.1% dropback success rate against Dallas; the source explicitly states he was not the problem and played excellently, with his offensive efficiency 13% higher in dropback success rate than even the Cowboys' offense, despite the Texans' 0-4 loss being driven by defensive breakdowns.

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Cam Ward

NegativeProjection44:42

Ward now has the same amount of career losses as Marcus Russell; the source views him as a talented, hard-working quarterback who was drafted into a bad situation and wasn't ready to play at the NFL level yet, similar to Sam Darnold and Geno Smith early in their careers.

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Chase Brown

NegativeUsage4:00

On a fourth and ten play in the Bengals-Jags game, Joe Burrow hit Chase Brown well before the first down mark with momentum going in the desired direction, but Jacksonville's defense rallied and made a great tackle to stop him short, ending the game.

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Dak Prescott

PositiveProjection27:06

Dak Prescott was 6 of 7 for 148 yards on passes over 15 yards with a 158.3 passer rating and 21.1 yards per attempt, demonstrating explosive downfield efficiency; the source notes he was on a heater and got anything he wanted deep against the Texans defense, with his deep-ball dominance being the key difference in the Cowboys' victory.

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Daniel Jones

NegativeProjection50:19

Jones was bad in the first half of Week 4 against Washington, completing 12 of 22 passes for 86 yards, no touchdowns, one interception, one lost fumble, and a 44.9 passer rating with 3.9 yards per attempt; the Colts took the ball out of his hands in the second half, and the source expresses concern that the version of Jones who was good in the first half of last season before his broken leg has not returned.

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Derrick Henry

NegativeProjection46:38

The source notes that even with prime Derrick Henry as your running back, you cannot win football games with an average air yards per attempt deep into the second half of under four yards; Henry's presence alone is insufficient to overcome Denver's conservative passing approach.

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George Pickens

PositiveUsage27:11

George Pickens made a contested catch in the Cowboys-Texans game where he was not open at all, demonstrating his elite catch ability and willingness to make difficult plays; the source highlights this as evidence of his exceptional talent despite the Texans' defensive struggles in the game.

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Ja'Marr Chase

NegativeInjury33:51

Jamar Chase exited the Jaguars-Bengals game early, reducing the Bengals' offensive firepower; the source notes his absence as a factor in Cincinnati's inability to generate explosive plays and Joe Burrow's mounting frustration, though the Jaguars' defense was the primary reason for the Bengals' offensive struggles.

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Jalen Hurts

NegativeProjection5:45

The Eagles went 0-12 on third down against the Rams, the worst third down performance in Philadelphia Eagles history. The source attributes this to a combination of factors: Hurts, the offensive line (specifically Cam Juergens), receivers, coach Nick Sirianni, and backup QB Sean Mannion all contributed to the failure. The source emphasizes that 'if you go 0-12, it's everybody's fault' and that all units combined into a 'miserable vortex of badness.'

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NegativeRole6:27

Jalen Hurts faced the second highest pressure rate of his career (not just this season) in the Eagles-Rams game; he was pressured on 13 of 18 blitzes by the Rams, who blitzed on more than 60% of plays—the highest blitz rate in a single game under Chris Shula. Against the blitz, Hurts was ineffective: 5 for 16, 46 passing yards, though he did have one touchdown.

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Joe Burrow

NegativeProjection35:04

Joe Burrow threw 10 straight completions late in the Bengals-Jaguars game and was on a heater despite the Jaguars' defensive scheme designed to frustrate him; the source notes his mounting frustration with Jacksonville's zone coverage and rally-and-tackle approach, though he still drove the Bengals down the field late in the game and nearly orchestrated a comeback.

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Jonathan Taylor

PositiveUsage50:00

Taylor was featured heavily in the second half of the Colts' Week 4 win over the Commanders, with Indianapolis using more designed runs than passes in the second half to protect their lead; this game script allowed Taylor to do his thing after Daniel Jones struggled in the first half.

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Justin Herbert

NegativeProjection47:14

Herbert threw two interceptions in Week 4 against Seattle, with the source describing the first as bad and the second as worse; the source expresses concern that Herbert appears broken and is firing passes directly to defenders, replicating worrying patterns from Week 1 and suggesting frustration early in the season.

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Kenneth Walker III

PositiveUsage18:00

Kenneth Walker rushed for 22 carries and 177 yards against the Chiefs, a new career high after setting his previous career high in Week 1 of this season. The source notes he 'was unbelievable' and 'has been unbelievable the entire season.'

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Kirk Cousins

NegativeProjection21:11

Kirk Cousins completed 31 of 52 passes for 365 yards with decisive play-action execution under Clint Kubiak's scheme; the source credits his veteran experience and ability to sell play-action while maintaining quick decision-making and accuracy, noting this performance validates the Vikings' decision to start him over Fernando Mendoza and represents a significant improvement from his recent Atlanta tenure.

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Matthew Stafford

NegativeProjection8:30

The Rams have the lowest average separation for pass catchers in the NFL at 3.0 yards this season, matching their 3.1 average from last year. The key difference: Matthew Stafford played at an 'insanely accurate MVP level' last year, but is not playing at that level this year. This small margin for error has now become a big margin for error for the Rams offense, making it 'incredibly difficult every single week' despite winning against Philadelphia.

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Patrick Mahomes

PositiveMatchup19:00

Against the Raiders, Patrick Mahomes was highly effective against cover zero (man coverage): 4 for 5, 102 passing yards, 1 touchdown, 0 interceptions, 158.3 passer rating. However, against cover three (which the Raiders used more than 40% of the time), Mahomes was much less effective: 6 for 12, 41 passing yards, 58 passer rating. Against cover four, he was 3 for 6 for 60 yards with a touchdown. The source notes that when Mahomes had more than 2.5 seconds to throw, he was only 9 for 21, and his average time to throw was over 3 seconds in the game, which was not effective outside of man coverage reps.

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Trevor Lawrence

PositiveRole39:04

Trevor Lawrence took care of the ball against Cincinnati, avoiding back-breaking interceptions and making good decisions and throws; the source identifies him as a stabilizing force for Jacksonville alongside the defense in a chaotic, penalty-filled game, emphasizing his ball security and decision-making as key to the Jaguars' victory.

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Tyquan Thornton

NegativeInjury17:30

Tyquan Thornton suffered a horrific injury on a deep bomb from Patrick Mahomes late in the Chiefs-Raiders game. The source hopes he heals up but does not provide specific injury details.

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Xavier Worthy

PositiveUsage17:00

Xavier Worthy was on the receiving end of one of Patrick Mahomes' two big bomb plays deep down the field against the Raiders, demonstrating the Chiefs' ability to hit explosive plays when needed in close games.

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Zay Flowers

PositiveUsage44:09

Flowers was a major factor in Baltimore's win over Tennessee in Week 4, delivering another big game when healthy; his presence makes a significant difference in the Ravens offense.

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1:58Welcome to the NFL Pro Week 4 Reaction Podcast.
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2:09Is offense in the NFL broken? We are four weeks into the 2026 NFL season, and we are already asking that question.
2:16Trevor Sikkema, Brett Coleman here with you guys on another episode of NFL Pro.
2:20We are recapping so much of what we saw from the Sunday slate in Week 4 of the NFL.
2:26And Brett, all jokes aside, this week, teams converted on third down on just 34.4% of their attempts, the lowest rate in a single week since 2017.
2:35See, we can phrase it one of two ways.
2:38Either offense is broken or defense is back. So we can be optimist or pessimist here.
2:43You know, you've been in the sports media landscape long enough to where the thumbnail needs to be both of us doing
2:50this, you know, and it's just offense is broken in the NFL.
2:53So no, but there are two sides of the coin.
2:57But I think there's some more layers to peel back from it as well.
3:01I mean, the biggest difference between this week and Week 1 is that defenses can now tackle.
3:07Right? That's what we talked about after Week 1, all the yards after contact that happened in Week 1, the super high explosive rates.
3:14Every single week since Week 1, the missed tackle rate, specifically on third down, has gotten better.
3:20It was 14.6% Week 1, which is a bad missed tackle rate, down to 12.7% Week 2, 10.8% Week 3, 7% as of us recording this.
3:28We're not done with Week 1 as of recording, but as of recording this.
3:32A 7% missed tackle rate on third down is half of what it was three weeks ago.
3:38So, yeah, you're not going to convert on third down if you're not breaking any tackles whatsoever, especially when most third downs
3:45are going to be third and seven plus, generally speaking.
3:48So I think to me, it's just defenders kind of shaking the rust off and learning how to tackle and get guys on the ground again.
3:56Yeah, and one of the games, at least one that pops into my mind immediately, this stat came to life.
4:02It was that Bengals-Jags game, which we'll talk a little bit more a little bit later in the show, but that fourth
4:09and ten play for the Bengals, Joe Burrow hit Chase Brown well before the first down mark, and what are you hoping?
4:16You're hoping, hey, I'm getting the ball to my guy with momentum, going the direction I want him to go.
4:23He's just got to make somebody miss, and it was a great rally and tackle by Jacksonville, and that ended up being the game right there.
4:31And he's upended close to the first down marker.
4:34He's short. Rayon Lane tripped him up. He's going to be short.
4:38On third and short, so third and one to two yards to game, 60.3% conversion, right?
4:43Okay, it makes sense. That's pretty high. Obviously, you don't have a long way to go.
4:48Third and medium, so three to six yards to gain, right around 43.9%, but then also, Brett, third and long, so third
4:55and seven plus, just a 15.6% conversion rate, and there were 167 plays that were third and long that go into this.
5:02To me, that 15.6% conversion rate speaks right to what you were just saying, the missed tackle rate of, hey, we've got
5:09these plays where sometimes the quarterbacks feel like they've got to pass it beyond the sticks, and they've got to do the
5:16work to get the conversion, but there are other times, certainly we saw this week where offenses were very clearly motivated to
5:23just let their playmakers make plays, and defenses just were not having it this week.
5:27And I do think that, all jokes aside from how I introed the show, that is a cool thing that defenses have
5:34stepped up this much to cut the missed tackle rate from week one in half already.
5:39And you're pairing a lot of these zone coverages with pressure, where the entire goal is just to force a quick throw.
5:46Like, yeah, we'd love to get a sack, but really, we would just love to speed up the quarterback so that they can't throw deep.
5:54Like, that's the whole goal. Just eliminate the deep pass through pressure.
5:58Like, the pressure is the coverage. And if we can just force a quick throw and then rally and tackle, that's the entire point of a zero blitz.
6:07Because most quarterbacks are going to identify, okay, there's more rushers than there's blockers.
6:11I have to get it out. You know, the entire goal is just, you have to throw it under five yards and
6:18see if you can make us miss. And at least this week, nobody could.
6:23Yeah, and I think that that's just an overall strategy, like you said, of how you handle these super talented quarterbacks.
6:29And it was just a little bit of a microcosm of that strategy and that plan working for defenses here in week four.
6:37We'll see how the offense is punched back in the next couple of weeks.
6:41Maybe it is pushing the ball a little bit further.
6:44Not as much, hey, dump it off and not giving these teams a chance to rally and tackle.
6:50And all of that is a perfect transition in the first game that we wanted to talk about here because lack of
6:57third down success very much went into the Philadelphia Eagles not being able to hold on to that game, losing to the Los Angeles Rams.
7:05And we talked in the preview show saying, whoever loses this game, the short-term outlook at least, we start to hit the
7:12panic button a little bit for these teams. There's execution errors.
7:15There's coaching errors. Everybody contributes to it. It's an ultimate team game.
7:19Rams end up winning. Eagles lost a slew of injuries for the Eagles that they've been through this season.
7:25But no matter how you slice it, going 0-12 on third down for Philadelphia, I don't care if you had your starters
7:32out there to make up for it or what, it's never going to be a recipe for success.
7:380-12 for Philadelphia. It was the worst third down performance in the history of the Philadelphia Eagles.
7:43They've been around for a long time. I believe it.
7:47That's how bad that was. And it's so easy for people to jump on Jalen Hurts and say it's all his fault
7:54or it's all the offensive line's fault, specifically Cam Juergens, or the receivers or whatever, or Nick Sirianni or Sean Mannion.
8:00The reality is, if you go 0-12, it's everybody's fault.
8:03Everybody had to be bad for that to happen.
8:06And I think they were all bad in their own ways, and they just all combined into this miserable vortex of badness that resulted in 0-12.
8:14Not the vortex of badness! The vortex of badness.
8:17It was hard to watch. Like, genuinely, it was hard to watch.
8:21And it was one of those games where they jumped out in front and they had a, I guess you'd call it
8:28a commanding lead, but it didn't feel real, right?
8:31Because you get two interceptions on Matthew Stafford. You get a 40-plus yard punt return.
8:36Like, that led to 17 points by itself. And it just, it felt like, yes, the Eagles were capitalizing on mistakes, but
8:43it sure felt like, man, it kind of feels like the Rams are just making a bunch of mistakes here, not necessarily that they're getting massively outplayed.
8:51What happens if the Rams start playing a clean game?
8:54And we saw that in the second half. They started playing like themselves.
8:59And the weight of the Rams' talent relative to the weight of the Eagles' talent that they had left that wasn't injured
9:06yet, that really bore out in the second half.
9:08And I think what was really frustrating for Eagles fans is they could feel that and they knew, not that they were
9:15getting away with one, but they knew that, like, this was a game that they probably weren't supposed to win because of all the injuries.
9:23And yet, late in the game, they had a 96% chance to win.
9:27They were on the Rams' two-yard line. They're up by 10.
9:31They can take a 17-0 lead. And you're feeling great as an Eagles fan because this isn't a game that you're supposed
9:38to be in, let alone winning this handily. And then that third and two happened.
9:43Speaking of somebody who was a spotter, by the way, back in the day, things happen quickly, right?
9:48And the spotters have a few seconds to try to point something out to the broadcast crew before we move on to
9:55the next play, especially if it's a third down going into a fourth and goal opportunity.
10:00It's hard to see things in real time. And at the time, on that kind of bobbled snap that led to what
10:07I guess you can call an improvised run by Jalen Hurts that got stopped short of the goal line, you know, the
10:14broadcast crew said, oh, the snap got bobbled, messy exchange.
10:18It happens, whatever. Move on to fourth down. But again, some of the basic fundamentals.
10:22He dropped the snap. Can't turn his body in time.
10:25He does a good job getting back to the line of scrimmage.
10:29Looks like he had a good crease there for him behind that triple team block.
10:34Oh, so frustrating. Well, the advantage that you and I have here at NFL Pro is we have access to every single
10:41camera angle, whether it made the broadcast or not, in that little 20-second window between third and fourth down.
10:47So I took the opportunity to go back and look at every single camera angle and see, was it just a bad snap or did something else happen?
10:56And I found two different angles that tell an entirely different story.
11:00And this will make Eagles fans sick. Cam Juergens, who's not exactly popular in Philadelphia these days, he false started on this play.
11:07But it didn't get called. Eagles fans probably wish it would.
11:11This false start meant that he was pulling early before Jalen Hurts could actually fully get a handle of the snap and
11:17then pivot and hand the ball off. And so when Cam Juergens false started and pulled, his hand hit the ball in Jalen Hurts' hand.
11:25So that's what caused the bobble, which means he couldn't pivot and hand it off, which means the play got broken.
11:32If the exchange happened cleanly, i.e. if Cam Juergens didn't false start, that probably scores.
11:37And the Eagles do go up by 17 points.
11:40And at that point, that late surge by the Rams likely doesn't matter.
11:44And we're talking about a completely different game at that point.
11:47All Cam Juergens had to do was not false start and run into Jalen Hurts, and this is a totally different conversation.
11:54But it was a very subtle mistake that the broadcast didn't catch at the time.
11:59Not that I blame them. Like, I had to hunt through 15 different angles to find it.
12:04But that's the real story of what happened. And then you get to the fourth and goal situation where we're calling a
12:11shotgun pass on fourth and short, which is not something that I like anyway.
12:16It wasn't a call that I would have leaned on in that situation.
12:20I would have preferred either an under center run or under center play action, but that's neither here nor there.
12:26But I just wanted to set the record straight of what happened in that goal line sequence because that was the game.
12:33The Rams then mounted a 98-yard touchdown drive, completely flipped everything, but it wasn't on Jalen.
12:38It was on his left guard. Yeah, and it was tough sledding, I think, just for the entire Philadelphia offense.
12:45Hurts, second highest pressure face in a game in his career.
12:48Not just this season, but his career. Rams also blitzed on more than 60% of their plays.
12:54Highest blitz rate in a single game they've ever had under Chris Shula, their defensive coordinator.
12:5913 pressures, two sacks on 18 blitzes. That's an insanely high success rate.
13:03And Hurts versus the blitz, I mean, he wasn't good versus the blitz.
13:07Five for 16, 46 total passing yards. He did have a touchdown against the blitz, but like you said, they were kind of barely hanging on.
13:15But I want to say this too, not that I want this game review to be all negative, but do you really feel great about the Rams winning?
13:24I mean, sure, they obviously came back and it was kind of vintage of what we saw from the Rams last year
13:31when we felt really good about them. But I think to myself, it took you a long time in the game to get to that point.
13:39Something that's been bothering me about the Rams was their lack of separation for wide receivers.
13:44They have the lowest average separation to their pass catchers in the NFL at just 3.0 this season.
13:50Now, I looked at it last year. They were also the lowest in the NFL at 3.1.
13:55So it's basically the same offense. The only difference is Matthew Stafford was playing at an insanely accurate MVP level last year, and he's not this year.
14:04And that little margin for error is now turning into a big margin for error for this team.
14:10So look, maybe this is the kick in the pants that they needed, but man, I don't know how much better I
14:17feel about the Rams, even the fact that they got the win in this game.
14:21This offense still looks incredibly difficult every single week, and they just happened to go up against a Philadelphia team that was
14:280 for 12 on third down, could have still won the game anyways at the goal line, like you mentioned.
14:35It was just, this game was two teams that have playoffs aspirations that I feel like it was a mess.
14:41Any final thoughts on this one before we move on to the next game?
14:46It's the kind of game that even if you win, you know, you're silently staring out the window for the rest of
14:53the evening, just saying, oh my God, how did we survive that?
14:56Like, nobody actually won that one. You just lived through it.
15:00Well, the Rams survived it, and I suppose that's all that really matters given the schedule that they have upcoming because they play the Buffalo Bills next.
15:08We've tried to, you know, do a lot of things that were not in alignment with what is winning football, but you
15:15can't win it until the fourth quarter, and our guys came alive when they did.
15:20We gotta talk about the undefeated matchup of the Kansas City Chiefs and the Las Vegas Raiders because the people have been
15:27in the comments for a couple of weeks on us saying, hey, we gotta talk about the Raiders more, gotta talk about the Raiders more.
15:35We previewed the game last week on the Friday episode, and I gotta say, man, this game absolutely lived up to the billing.
15:42This was a fantastic showdown, and when we were going through our picks for who we thought was gonna win this game,
15:49I talked about how, hey, I'm taking the Chiefs, but I think this is gonna be a really close game.
15:56I didn't even think that it would be this close.
15:59This game was a ton of fun until the very end, and we just came off of a game where I said,
16:06I don't know if I'd feel good if I was either team, the Rams or the Eagles.
16:11I'd kind of feel great if I'm either team, the Chiefs or the Raiders, and I know the Raiders are gonna say,
16:18hey, no moral victories, no moral, but you gotta think about what this team was even just last year.
16:24You know you're right there with the Kansas City Chiefs given how good this team is playing, and I'll talk about Mahomes
16:31a little bit more in a second, but what'd you think about this game?
16:36What's your main takeaway here from Raiders-Chiefs? Man, they gave them all they could handle.
16:40Like, yeah. It was right there for the taking, and to get two touchdowns in 19 seconds, it was indicative of the kind of program the Chiefs are.
16:49Like, last year notwithstanding, last year was just, let's talk about a vortex of badness, the 2025 Chiefs, but this is what this team has always been.
16:58They find a way in the fourth quarter. You know, they get a big play on special teams.
17:04I would say two big plays on special teams between the punch out by Jeff Bassa and then the incredible punt coverage
17:11that got down at the one-yard line. That third phase really showed up for Kansas City in a matchup that we thought
17:17was going to be, you know, not defined by, but we knew that special teams was going to be a big factor
17:24in this one because these were two good special teams units going at it.
17:29In this game, in terms of special teams EPA per play, Kansas City was plus .27.
17:34Vegas, uncharacteristically, was minus .27, and it was largely because of that fumble and the kickoff return.
17:39And that was kind of the difference in the game.
17:43Like, these two teams were going blow for blow.
17:45Like, they were making plays on offense. They were making plays on defense.
17:50The Raiders were frustrating them, but Mahomes hit these two big bombs deep down the field.
17:55One to Xavier Worthy early on, one to Tyquan late in the game.
17:59Unfortunately, resulted in a horrific injury to Tyquan Thornton, and we hope he heals up.
18:03But as far as the play itself, it was exactly what they needed.
18:08You know, I thought the Raiders' defensive staff was probably incensed because this was not a man coverage team on third down going into this week.
18:16They were not a big blitz team on third down going into this week.
18:20And yet, those two deep shots on third down were against man blitzes.
18:24I'm sure they're like, how did they know that was coming?
18:28Because they were perfect play calls against man blitzes and Mahomes hit both of them.
18:33So, I just, I love this game, man. The coaches were great.
18:36The players were great. It was back and forth, all three phases.
18:40Like, this was, this was damn good football. Yeah, look, if you're the Raiders, you would have liked to defend the run a little bit better.
18:49Kenneth Walker, 22 carries, 177 rushing yards, which is a new career high after he set his previous career high in week one of this season.
18:57So, look, Kenneth Walker was unbelievable, but he's been unbelievable the entire season.
19:01If you are a Raiders fan and if you're in that locker room, you gotta feel good about the game plan that
19:08you put out there when it came to stopping Patrick Mahomes because you mentioned this, Mahomes did most of his damage against
19:15the cover zero plays that he faced. Mahomes in this game, four for five, 102 passing yards, one touchdown, no interceptions, and
19:22a 158.3 passer rating against cover zero. You look at all the other coverages that he faced against cover three, which he
19:29saw more than 40% of the time in this game.
19:32Six for 12, 41 passing yards, 58 passer rating.
19:35I mean, cover four, three for six for 60 yards, and he had a touchdown, which helps the QBR, but it's like
19:42you look at so many of these other statistics for Mahomes passing.
19:46Nine for 21 on passes where he had more than two and a half seconds to throw the ball.
19:52A lot of times, if you don't get to Mahomes, if Mahomes has got more time to throw it, he's gonna find the guy.
19:59He's gonna absolutely kill you if you don't get to him, and in fact, it was the opposite.
20:05They played so well in coverage for such an extended period of time.
20:09His average time to throw was over three seconds in this game, and it was not effective, at least outside of the man coverage reps that he faced.
20:18So I look at this game, and I go, God, the Raiders are so close.
20:23The Raiders are so close, and even with everything that we just talked about there, if you don't have the fumble on
20:30special teams there in the fourth quarter, you may have still won this game.
20:34So to me, I know everybody hates moral victories, but you gotta feel good if you're a Raiders fan with this game.
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22:32I think it's bittersweet because you know you can hang and you know that the 3-0 start wasn't fraudulent because you hung
22:39with this team and you had them on the ropes and I think if I'm a Raiders fan, I am upset because
22:46it's an opportunity but you know it's not the only opportunity and that's the key takeaway.
22:51They're not going to go away. They are in this race especially when you got the Texans falling to 0-4, the Chargers falling to 0-4.
22:59Good teams are playing bad all over the league and here you have the Raiders surging to a 3-1 start and hanging
23:06with a team that we all expect to be there in the end.
23:11If I'm the Raiders, I'm thinking, okay, I'm not just going to be the plucky seven seed.
23:16I might be able to make a play for the AFC West here and if I'm a Raiders fan, it feels pretty
23:23damn good because I don't remember the last time Raiders fans could actually think about that in October.
23:29First of all, don't call us plucky. We don't know what it means.
23:33That's a fancy word. I'm going to take that as an insult.
23:37Shout out to Avengers Infinity War for that one.
23:39By the way, before we move on, Kirk Cousins continues to look good.
23:44Dude, 31 for 52. That's right. I said 31 and then the second number that I mentioned which was the amount of
23:50attempts that he had in the game was 52.
23:53It's the first time that he's had that many passing attempts since week five in 2024 when he had 58 passing attempts
24:00against, yeah, of course, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 365 passing yards in this game though.
24:05To me, Brett, I love what Kirk brings to the table.
24:09We have talked about this multiple times. The way that he is playing, you understand why Fernando Mendoza is still on the
24:16sideline because it's that veteran presence, especially, I always look at those play action plays where Clint Kubiak is asking Kirk Cousins
24:23to fully turn his back to the line of scrimmage and to the defense, really sell the play action and then immediately
24:29turn around and he knows exactly what he is going to see.
24:33You only get that from reps, from experience, from years in the league and having those play action plays and yet still
24:40a decisive ability to get the ball out of your hands quickly exactly where it needs to go.
24:46That's what we're seeing from Kirk. I feel really good about where Kirk Cousins is right now and I wouldn't have said
24:53that certainly the last couple of years that he was in Atlanta, I was not saying that and I wondered if it
25:00was like, all right, you signed Kirk Cousins to start early on this team ahead of Fernando Mendoza but is that more pageantry than anything else?
25:08It is not. Kirk Cousins can still play in this league and I think that we saw that today.
25:14Especially compared to the recent historical quarterback performances up in Minnesota.
25:18I'm going to refrain from saying something that will make Vikings fans even more sad than they already are but watching what Kirk did.
25:25How sad can you be at 4-0? How sad can you be at 4-0?
25:30Not all 4-0 is the same, man. Hey, hey.
25:33They had 72 plays and scored 15 points. Come on, man.
25:36Those 15 points were enough to get the win.
25:39It wouldn't have been close to getting the win against Dallas and Houston today who, man, 64 total points in this next game that we're hitting here.
25:48Dallas comes away with the win and the exact opposite of 4-0 is unfortunately what the Houston Texans are in this game.
25:54I don't know. When you think of the Cowboys and the Texans this matchup is the takeaway more about the Cowboys or is it more about the Texans?
26:03What do you think? Where do you want to start with this one?
26:08Would you rather get into a shootout with the Dallas Cowboys or John Wick?
26:12I kind of go back and forth. I think you're dead either way and the Texans still chose to do it.
26:19I've seen all four movies and yeah, I think that you are dead either way.
26:23So yeah. And I've seen all four Cowboys games to start the season.
26:27So yes. It's just box office. I mean both the John Wick movies and the Cowboys office.
26:33Oh, 100%. I'm there opening weekend every single time.
26:36Doesn't matter. The movies are exactly the same. The movies are exactly the same every single time.
26:41And I'm basically front row every single time on opening weekend.
26:45But that is how the Cowboys office feels. I literally don't care.
26:48It's like, oh, I'm going to watch Keanu just do crazy stuff for the next two hours?
26:54Great. I'm going to watch Dak and C.D. That's Dak.
26:57That's Dak. Yeah, once we got to like 15 catches, I pretty much understood where this was going and then they just
27:04added a few more on top of that. What about the 16th one?
27:08What about the 17th one? They just couldn't stop him.
27:11They could not stop C.D. Lamb. And this is a good secondary.
27:15Like, it's not like Derek Stingley and Kabari Lasseter and Jalen Petrie and Bullock.
27:20Like, they can all play. I mean, this season doesn't look like they can, but in theory, in a vacuum, they're good DBs.
27:27This is a good secondary. And they just got cooked in this game.
27:31C.D. was getting open at will. George Pickens made a catch in this game where he wasn't open at all and still
27:38made it anyway because he's George Pickens. Like, Dak was on a heater.
27:42If you're looking at just his passing stats over 15 yards, this is absurd.
27:46He was 6 of 7 for 148, so almost 150 yards in just seven attempts here.
27:52A 158.3 rating. That is perfect. He had a touchdown at yards per attempt of 21.1.
27:57So he got anything he wanted deep down the field, even against this Texans defense.
28:01Under 15 yards is still pretty damn good as well, but it was really the explosive plays that were the difference in this one.
28:09The stars came out, man. No pun intended. I just...
28:12C.J. Stroud played great and it didn't matter. It really didn't matter at all.
28:17Kamari Lassner, you brought his name up and Kamari, man, he's a hell of a corner, but allowed eight receptions for 136
28:24yards on 11 targets and over 50 coverage snaps played today.
28:27This is one of... I gotta think it's gotta be the worst Kamari Lassner game that he has played so far in
28:34his career because he is only getting better. Brett, I was looking this up with the Texans defense because I...
28:40I had these question marks myself because you're right, this was not a C.J.
28:45Stroud issue type of a game. It'd be one thing if the defense was playing as good as it was last year and C.J.
28:52was consistently struggling, it'd be an easy thing to just say, hey, the offense isn't working.
28:58And look, going into this week, they were struggling on short yardage situations, converting on the ground when it came to those third and fourth and short situations.
29:06So that's still something to monitor throughout this season.
29:09But when you play the way that the offense did today, you give yourself a chance to win ballgames and this defense
29:16should have been able to win them this ballgame even against the Cowboys secondary.
29:21But I tried to look up some stats for the Texans so far this year versus what they were last year.
29:27And I was like, man, are they playing more zone and more man?
29:31No, the rates are pretty much the same. Are they playing more cover three?
29:36Are they playing more cover four? More split safety stuff?
29:39More single high safety stuff? No, the rates are kind of the same.
29:43Okay, well, what about separation from receivers? You know, are they giving up more average separation when the ball's getting there?
29:50Not really. The only difference that I could find really with the Texans is something that every coach preaches, honestly.
29:56They are the worst team in the NFL so far through four weeks when it comes to explosive play rate allowed.
30:03They are over 20%, 21.4% of the time they are giving up an explosive play.
30:08It was just 16.5% last season. And then when you look at them as a turnover defense last year, they were top
30:1510 in the NFL in fumbles, recovered, and they were third in the NFL in total interceptions last season.
30:21So far through four weeks this year, one recovered fumble, one interception.
30:24You're giving up more explosive plays. You're not taking the ball away.
30:28The rest of the stuff, like you mentioned, this is a talented secondary.
30:32This is a talented defensive line. This is a talented team.
30:36They're just not coming away with the big plays on their end and they're giving up way more big plays on the offense's end.
30:43And until that changes, we're not going to be able to talk about this Texans team as a turnaround type of a
30:50team and even now, the 0-4 hole, I mean, forget the division.
30:54I mean, you're just hoping you make the playoffs at this point.
30:58You are hoping that there is some way that you make the playoffs, but anything else on this game?
31:04It's only been done once, by the way. I was literally a baby.
31:08It was the early 90s Chargers, the only team that's ever dug out of an 0-4 hole to make the playoffs.
31:15I think it was 92 off the top of my head.
31:18And maybe, okay, the 17th game gives them a little bit more wiggle room because there was less tolerance for it when
31:25there was a 16-game schedule, but even then, you can lose maybe two more games the entire rest of the year.
31:32And we have a lot of games to play.
31:35And I do have a lot of, I don't really have a lot of confidence in them doing that.
31:41So, yeah, I have egg on my face. I thought this team could have challenged for the AFC.
31:47I never in a million years thought it was going to be the defense that's the issue.
31:52Meanwhile, CJ Stroud, if you, I just want to read off his numbers and give him his flowers.
31:58He was not the problem. He had a 126.7 passer rating.
32:01He was 11.2 yards per attempt. His completion percentage over expected was 14.2%.
32:05Dropback success rate was 57.1%. We praise the Cowboys.
32:08That's like 13% higher in dropback success rate than even Dallas was today.
32:12They had 51 plays the entire game and put up like 400 yards of offense.
32:17Like, CJ was awesome. I never thought the defense would be the problem with this team.
32:22Really quick, I'm going to list off the schedule because this is actually more interesting than I thought it was going to
32:29be for the Texas schedule because we talked about it being dire.
32:33Okay? It's at Tennessee next week. It's overseas versus the Jacksonville Jaguars.
32:37Okay? Neutral site game. Versus the Giants by week at the Chargers, at the Browns, versus the Colts, versus the Ravens, at
32:44the Steelers, at the Commanders, versus Jacksonville, at Philadelphia, at Green Bay versus Tennessee.
32:48It's doable. It's, boy, it's doable. To go on a run, it's doable.
32:52You have to thread every needle while hitting every green light to do it.
32:57They did it from 0-3 last year. If they could do it from 0-4 this year.
33:02That's the thrill, baby. That's the thrill. It's being alive.
33:05It's being a Texans fan. This sucks, Trevor. This is why you watch.
33:09You're just lucky I don't make you do a segment on the Bucs every week.
33:14Like, I have to do a segment on the Texans every week.
33:18I'm the only one that has to validate my trauma on this show, not you.
33:22Hey, the Bucs segment happened on Saturday when we got to watch future Buccaneer Jeremiah Smith do his thing once again for Ohio State.
33:30But we can talk about that when we get more to draft season.
33:34Cincinnati. Jags get out of Cincinnati with a win here, a hard-fought victory.
33:38That is for sure. This game definitely lived up to the billing.
33:42It wasn't as top-tier execution on offense type of a game like maybe we thought with a potential firework show, but Jamar Chase goes out of this game.
33:51T. Higgins goes out of this game for a little bit.
33:54The Jags offense wasn't quite explosive, but Brett, where I want to start this is to give flowers to the Jags defense
34:01and how they're playing because the Bengals had just 23 total rushing yards on 15 carries in this game.
34:07And I think a lot of that has to do with how we started this show and how we talked about teams
34:14being willing to give you things underneath and then rally and tackle.
34:18Jags, 81% zone drop just a 19% blitz rate in this game.
34:22They were going to rush with four, they were going to keep guys back in zone coverage, and when you threw it
34:29underneath, they were going to be ready to rally and tackle.
34:32A less than 10% missed tackle rate from Jacksonville in this game.
34:36To me, that is what their game plan was going into it, and they executed this beautifully.
34:42Everyone on the team was ready for a run fit whenever the Bengals were going to go to the run game, and
34:49they were ready to rally to the football any time that it was some sort of a short pass between zero and nine yards.
34:56And clearly, it frustrated Joe Burrow as well with a couple of throws that you go, man, Joe Burrow normally didn't make those kinds of throws.
35:04And I think it was just that mounting frustration of how Anthony Camp and I was calling this game as the defensive
35:11coordinator for the Jags, and I just thought it was an excellent job.
35:16Liam Cohen gets a lot of praise on this coaching staff for the offensive side of the ball, but I wanted to
35:23give the flowers to the defensive side of the ball as well.
35:26The Jags are a complete team, and I think through four weeks, they've shown that they can win on the offense and the defensive side of the ball.
35:35It's tough to win ugly games. I mean, it's tough to win any game in the NFL, but especially the ugly games.
35:42It's kind of the theme of today is teams winning ugly.
35:46There were 24 total penalties in this one. 13 were on Jacksonville.
35:5011 were on Cincy, so they didn't necessarily get the benefit of the refs in this one.
35:55Over 200 penalty yards between the two teams. It was terrible.
35:58It was not a good game to watch on TV, at least until the second half, because there was 18 penalties in
36:05the first half alone out of 24. It was hard to get into a flow, and as a player, it's one thing
36:12to be a fan and not be able to get into the flow of the game.
36:17As a player, it's really hard to get into the flow of the game when it's just stopping every two minutes or even faster than that.
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38:16Just because of constant penalties on both teams. And you don't know what down and distance you're in because it keeps changing every 30 seconds.
38:24So it was tough, not to mention three touchdowns got nullified by penalty in this one, two of them for Jacksonville.
38:31Weirdly enough, first and ten in the red zone on the Bengals' last drive, that's when they decided to not call penalties.
38:38And to me, there was like a clear pass interference on that first and ten.
38:43DB got there early. No call on that one.
38:46And that's what frustrates me the most because if you're going to call 24 penalties in a game, it better be consistent.
38:53Like if we're all going to be miserable, we should all be equally miserable here.
38:57But whatever. I'm not bitter at all. But it was a tough game to watch and I think really the stabilizing forces
39:04here were the Jacksonville defense, to your point, and Trevor Lawrence.
39:08He took care of the ball. He didn't throw any back-breaking picks and make things harder on his team than they wanted to be.
39:15He made good throws. He made good decisions. And they were just the more stable team through all that chaotic mess of a game that this was.
39:24Bam Cohen had a good day. Yes and no.
39:27I take issue with the game management decisions they made at the end of this one that I think potentially gave Cincinnati
39:34a way to backdoor this one and come back.
39:37They were at midfield as fourth and three. If you get this first down, the game's over.
39:42Essentially. NGS has like they track decisions that coaches make on fourth downs and they'll give you the expected win probability based
39:49on if you go for it, if you kick, if you punt, all that everything.
39:54NGS had a strong go for it there at plus 4.7% win probability.
39:58I personally would have gone for it there knowing Joe Burrow's on the other side and he's in the middle of a heater throwing 10 straight completions.
40:06even though Jamar's out of the game, like he's still got T Higgins at that point.
40:12Like I just, I don't trust it. I would rather put I wonder if that, I wonder if that went into it for them.
40:19I wonder if Liam was a little bit like they don't have Jamar.
40:23So I feel like it's still Joe and T.
40:26No, I, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not saying that like it's, it's, it totally against it because I do understand what you're saying.
40:34I just wonder if that maybe went into him going like, Hey, they don't have, they don't have Jamar.
40:40It's possible, but the fact that they intentionally took the penalty and then punted and then since he drove right down the field anyway, right.
40:48And got to the red zone where in my opinion, the non call or the missed call on PI that should have been called happened.
40:56Jacksonville held on fourth and 10, but even earlier in the game, like there was a different fourth and opportunity from Cincinnati's
41:0341 yard line that they also punted on. They were in Cam Little's range.
41:07Cam Little's range is like 10 yards, even more than that.
41:11And they punted Cam Little's range is on the other side of the 50, put him in the parking lot.
41:17I don't care. He's going to kick a field goal.
41:20So do you remember the, do you remember the early Madden games?
41:24Like Matt, I think it was like Madden 04 where you could buy like the trading cards and then activate them sometimes during the game.
41:32And one of them was like unlimited kick power.
41:35So you can, if you, if you played this trading card, you could kick it from like your own one yard line and it would go the distance.
41:44You still had to aim it correctly, I think, but it would actually go 100 yards if you played this card.
41:50That feels like Cam Little a little bit right now.
41:53And he's like factoring in the Coriolis effect for a field goal.
41:57You do. You need to do it. Yeah. But I just, I don't understand like if you have that kind of weapon
42:04at kicker, why are you punting from the 41, like your opponent is 41 yard line.
42:09So Liam, I think he, he got away with one little bit in this game, but you know, a win's a win.
42:16We'll take it. Okay. Those are our deep dives, but we've heard you guys in the comments that you want us to talk about more games.
42:24So we're going to try to do that here.
42:27We're going to go to a little whip around, go through a lot of the games that we didn't touch on for
42:34the deep dives and just say something from our observations that we've seen in the data or what we watched today on film.
42:42First one is the Green Bay Packers and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
42:45Begrudgingly, I am bringing this up, Brett, because we had to talk about the Texans and we had to do that.
42:52And unfortunately you had to slog through that. And so I will acknowledge the fact ball team and lost to the Green Bay Packers.
43:00Packers used 13 personnel on 16 plays in week four, gained 128 yards, the team's most plays and yards in that heavy
43:07of a personnel and 13 personnel in a game in the next gen stat era, which is since 2016.
43:13So heavy personnel packages. And I think, Brett, that's exactly how you're going to go after this Buccaneers team, the linebacker level, not great.
43:20And it's just the defense is all over the place for the Buccaneers.
43:24Side note, can we talk about Lucas Van Dess?
43:27Where did this come from? I mean, what are you talking about?
43:31First round pick? First round pick? First round pick?
43:34I realize that, but he was left for dead this offseason.
43:37I know, I know. He's been a lot better this year.
43:41Yes, you were right. You are right. He's been great.
43:44He's been great. So good for him. Jalen Daniels getting the start for the Buccaneers.
43:49I thought he looked fine for what you would want these expectations to be, but it's a mess in Tampa in a lot of different ways.
43:57The Tennessee Titans and the Baltimore Ravens. The return of the King, King Henry, coming back in this game.
44:03Baltimore wins it pretty easily. I'm not going to lie.
44:06I mean, Tennessee is just not really competitive this season.
44:09Specifically, we get another big Zay Flowers game in this one.
44:13He was a major factor every single time that he is out there when he is healthy.
44:18His presence, I think, makes all the difference in the world.
44:22I think that the Tennessee Titans offense is still just so all over the place inconsistent.
44:27You can have some big plays, but then you've just got some absolute stinkers and some stretches of the game where you're
44:34getting nothing from your offense, at least not what you need to.
44:38Cam Ward, now is the same amount of career losses as your Marcus Russell?
44:42You know, not great. I like Cam Ward. I think he's a hard worker.
44:47I think he is yet another quarterback that unfortunately needed a different situation than what than the one that he got drafted into.
44:54It's it's me. It's no different than Sam Darnold, Geno Smith, like these quarterbacks that they have a ton of talent.
45:00They're good people. They're hard workers. They're just not ready yet.
45:04But when you get drafted that high, you have to play.
45:07And he wasn't ready to play. And I it's just it's bad timing.
45:12Like the timelines do not align. And that's why I'm so happy that Fernando Mendoza doesn't have to play in Vegas this
45:19year, because I think it would have been maybe similar, even though the talent in Vegas this year is better than the talent in Tennessee.
45:26It's just some guys, not even some, a lot of quarterbacks come out of college are not ready to play.
45:33I think he was one of them. And it's just unfortunate, especially in today's age where it feels like if you get
45:40picked in the first round, let alone be a number one overall pick, you start right away.
45:45No questions asked. And I just think that's a horrible rule to have for young quarterbacks.
45:50But that's a topic much deeper for another time.
45:53Denver and San Francisco. San Francisco ends up winning this game.
45:57Man, Bo Nix completed just one of nine passes down the field of 10 or more air yards for 30 yards.
46:03Did not attempt the deep pass of 20 or more air yards until under two minutes in the fourth quarter.
46:10You talked about this last week. It can't just be fourth quarter.
46:13And it just, it feels so conservative for them.
46:16He was over three on deep attempts. I mean, it was just far too conservative for the Broncos for whatever reason.
46:23It just, you've got to get more before we get to the fourth quarter in the two minute trail where you're just,
46:30you're, you're letting it fly after that. It's too late.
46:33I still have to go back and look at the all 22 for every single play.
46:38I'm very curious if it's a, he didn't do it because nothing was open or he didn't do it because he didn't
46:45trust it, which to me are two very different things, but having, having an average air yards per attempt deep into the second half of under four yards.
46:54Like you won't win that way. You won't win football games.
46:58Yes. You'll barely win football games doing that with like prime Derrick Henry as you're running back.
47:03It's just like you, you have to be more of a threat to pass the charges in the Seahawks chargers did make
47:10it interesting there at the end, but it kind of just felt like this was always Seattle's game to win and they do win this one.
47:18The chargers dropped to Oh and four on the season.
47:21To me, the Seattle Seahawks their defense won the day in this one, only seven and a half missed tackle rate for
47:28Seattle 56.3% pressure rate on the day had a four to one turnover ratio in their favor.
47:34Justin Herbert continues to just look broken. Justin Herbert's two interceptions, but the first one was bad.
47:39Second one was worse. I just, there are times when I don't know what he's looking at it.
47:45He's firing it right to defenders and it just going back to when we were worried about what we saw in week
47:52one, it just reeks of frustration already so early in the season.
47:56And, and man, he has just been a shell of the potential that he has early on this season.
48:02Honestly, my main takeaway beyond Justin Herbert, not looking like Justin Herbert.
48:05we complained about the number of penalties in Jacksonville since he, this one had 30, there were 30 penalties in this game.
48:12Like we thought 24 was bad. That's crazy. Wasn't almost 300 yards of penalties between the two teams.
48:18I, I, I got to look what the, it was 280.
48:22It was 280. Like that's awful. Like this game also started with back-to-back interceptions on the first two plays of the game.
48:29This was gross. This was gross football. I don't think anybody enjoyed it on either side.
48:34Everybody's happy just to be done with this game.
48:36We're moving on to week five. It was bad.
48:39The refs almost outgained the Seahawks. The Seahawks had 286 total yards.
48:43Jets and the bears, man, I can keep this one pretty quick.
48:47Bears won this game. Bears had 34 first downs in this game.
48:51Jets had 32 total offensive plays. I mean, when you look at time of possession, when you look at first downs, I
48:58mean, it's just, it is the most lopsided, non-competitive matchup you can find in a long, long time here with this game.
49:05You had Bears defensive players after the game saying like they weren't even sore.
49:09It was the easiest game they'd ever played in their lives.
49:13I saw Devin Bush say he was bored. He wasn't on the field.
49:17Like, they were barely out there. Like, I was messaging Connor after the game because I thought that stat was fake.
49:23I was like, there's no way that's real. And, you know, a gleefully masochistic Jets fan that Connor is.
49:29Immediately was like, yep! That's what happened. That's what I just had to watch today.
49:34Yeah. Yeah. Incredible. A little rapid fire here on the last three games that we have.
49:39The Colts and the Commanders, they played this game in London.
49:43The Colts take the victory. Look, the Commanders were already down to their second quarterback in Mariota.
49:48He goes out of the game. Ethan Kaliak-Manus came in and had some really nice throws once he kind of got warmed
49:55up, but it took him a little while to get warmed up.
49:59And it was just too much of Indianapolis. Indianapolis is one of those teams where they kind of play to the same baseline every single week.
50:07And some teams have a good chance of playing above that baseline.
50:11But if you don't at least hit that baseline, they're going to beat you.
50:15And that feels like the story of the Indianapolis Colts this season.
50:19Daniel Jones was bad in the first half. Can we just acknowledge that?
50:23I don't. Yeah. I don't think the Colts were great at a lot today.
50:28They just happened to play undrafted free agent QB3.
50:31And that's how you get the victory today. Yeah.
50:3412 of 22. This is all in the first half, by the way.
50:3812 of 22, 86 yards, no touchdowns, an interception, a fumble lost, 44.9 passer rating, 3.9 yards per attempt.
50:44They just took the ball out of his hands in the second half.
50:48So Jonathan Taylor, you do your thing. They had more design runs than passes in the second half, which because they had a lead, they could do that.
50:57Exactly. Right. Right. And you have Jonathan Taylor, but Daniel Jones was an anchor on this team.
51:02I and I don't know what happened to the version of Daniel Jones that was so good in the first half of last year before he got injured.
51:11It was really before the broken leg, not even before the Achilles, maybe like first eight weeks of the season.
51:17That's gone. Like it hasn't come back yet this year.
51:20I, and I don't know if we're going to see it again.
51:24The Giants get a win over the Arizona Cardinals.
51:27Brett, I'm going to be honest with you. I don't know how the Giants won this game.
51:33The Giants had 12% less overall success rate than the Arizona Cardinals did.
51:37They had a 28.6% design success rate. I mean, that's incredibly low.
51:40They had almost quadruple the percentage of a missed tackle rate compared to the Arizona Cardinals.
51:46There were so many stats that you look at in this game that you go, yeah, okay.
51:51I think the Cardinals won this game and they didn't.
51:54They lost by 12. Obviously the pick six to the end sort of is, is just a, you know, an icing on the cake with this one.
52:03But this game was just hilarious to me that it was the Giants winning by more than 10 points.
52:09You look at so many of the statistics and you go, yeah, the Giants really struggled in this game, but it's a dub is a dub.
52:17And they're sitting here at three and one. The win probability charts hilarious to look at because it starts out super heavy
52:24Cardinals, then super heavy Giants and super heavy Cardinals and super heavy Giants.
52:28And then it spikes at the end with the Marvin DPI.
52:31And then you get the pick six from banks.
52:34That's like this game was just wacky. This is wacky football.
52:38It was fun. Last thing, Minnesota Vikings and the Miami Dolphins.
52:41Minnesota's offense is so ugly. 72 plays scored 15 total points.
52:450 and 3 in the red zone. Didn't have a single deep passing attempt the entire game.
52:50I don't really know what to think of Minnesota at this point, but hey, they're 4-0.
52:55And on the other side of things, Jacob Rodriguez, 18 tackles.
52:59So shout out to Rookie. Doing great today. Yeah, that was like an average Texas Tech Saturday if anybody watched Jacob Rodriguez.
53:06That's very true. That's very true. He is a tackling machine.
53:09Yeah. And I think he's probably the early front runner for defensive rookie of the year.
53:14He could very easily lead the lead the league in stops, tackles, like just everything.
53:19He's he's a unit and a great guy to, by the way, talk to him with the combat.
53:25He's just he's a bundle of joy and a very, very good linebacker.
53:29But on the Viking side of things. I can't believe they're 4-0.
53:33I cannot believe this particular brand of football is 4-0.
53:36I get we want to be like a hard nose defense running team, but you got to get something from the quarterback position.
53:43Right. Something and they're not and they're still 4-0.
53:46Like to me, Brian Flores should just wrap up assistant coach of the year already.
53:51They wouldn't be 4-0 without him. But I. How do Vikings fans do this every week?
53:56It's awful. It's miserable to watch. It's entertaining when the defense is on the field.
54:01They're 4-0, Brett. What do you mean? It's just like watching.
54:04Our teams are a combined 0-8. But at least they're entertaining.
54:08This is bad TV. I'll allow you to be a bad football team.
54:12You can't be bad TV and a bad football team.
54:15That's very true. You'd much rather be entertaining. Like I learned from a very young age, you can be mean or you can be ugly.
54:23You can't be both. And that's the Minnesota Vikings this season.
54:26It's just awful. A beautiful way to wrap up the show.
54:30There we go, folks. Week 4 in the books.
54:33Ton to discuss. Ton to go over. And there's a lot of film, a lot of data for us to comb through
54:40over the next couple of days before the episode on Friday where we take all this information, pack it up, give you
54:47a little bit of review stuff, but really take that into what you are going to see in Week 5, of course.
54:54If you follow an NFL Pro, you know that's coming up on Friday.
54:58We'll see you guys then. Thank you for listening to our Week 4 Reaction Podcast.
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