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The Special Teams Revolution + Week 4's Biggest Matchups | NFL Pro

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1 hr 28 min
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Oct 1, 2026
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Thu, October 1, 2026
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Kenneth Walker IIIBo NixBrock BowersBrock PurdyDrake MayeMatthew StaffordTrevor LawrenceAaron RodgersC.J. StroudJalen HurtsJames CookJayden HigginsJosh AllenJustin Herbert
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Aaron Rodgers

PositiveMatchup61:41

Rodgers just absolutely lit up the Bengals defense last week playing a lot of single high cover 1 cover 3 stuff, providing tape on how to beat the Bengals defense.

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Bo Nix

NegativeProjection45:45

Nix has shown the ability to win close fourth-quarter games but struggles to keep pace with elite offenses over a full game. Against the Rams, his yards per attempt was 3.9 in the first three quarters versus 9.9 in the fourth quarter, and he completed less than 50% of his passes in that quarter (4 of 9), with the big yardage coming from back-to-back throws where the Rams blew coverage. The source expresses concern that Nix cannot play poorly for 45-50 minutes and expect to keep up with Purdy; he must play well from the first quarter on and cannot save it for the fourth quarter against an opponent of this caliber, or risk getting blown out like the Chiefs game in Week 1.

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NegativeProjection65:25

Bo Nix has been objectively bad in quarters one through three despite having good fourth quarters; the source notes that quarters one through three still matter a lot. When compared to Brock Purdy's MVP-caliber play, the gap between the two quarterbacks is so large that the source does not believe Denver can overcome it in Week 4 against San Francisco, even with Denver's defensive adjustments.

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Brock Bowers

PositiveUsage33:36

Brock Bowers is operating as a wide receiver in name only, not a traditional tight end; he ran 33 routes last week with 25 of them from the slot or out wide (76% of routes), up from 53.2% last year. Per NextGenStats, he was aligned out wide or in the slot on all of his receptions. This represents a historic deployment for Clint Kubiak, who has never before deployed a tight end detached from the formation on at least 50% of snaps as an offensive coordinator or head coach. Bowers' 0.10 EPA per play when on the field is higher than Jackson Smith-Njigba, Tee Higgins, and Jamar Chase, and his 0.25 EPA per route run is sixth most in the NFL and most among tight ends with 20+ routes. His 0.66 EPA per target ranks seventh among tight ends with 5+ targets. He has been Kirk Cousins' best friend throughout the year.

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PositiveUsage71:37

Brock Bowers has been awesome when on the field, especially last week when he was the focal point of the Raiders passing game; however, the Chiefs may deploy L'Jarius Sneed in one-on-one coverage against him, which could reduce his production ease compared to prior weeks, though Bowers will still get his.

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Brock Purdy

PositiveProjection40:45

Purdy is playing at an elite level with a 64% success rate this season (highest in NFL), leading every quarterback since entering the league in 2023 with a career 52.6% success rate and the only QB with multiple 50%+ seasons in that span. The 49ers offense has scored touchdowns on 48.1% of drives this year, the highest through three weeks since at least 2000, representing the most effective offense Kyle Shanahan has ever coordinated. Purdy's EPA per dropback leads the NFL overall (0.44), is most in the NFL in intermediate areas, and he has 152 total yards over the middle of the field, most in the NFL. The source compares Kyle Shanahan's confidence in Purdy to Matt Ryan's MVP-caliber 2016 season.

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PositiveProjection64:58

Purdy is playing at an MVP-caliber level; the source believes he is the MVP frontrunner right now. The 49ers offense has put up touchdown drives at a rate higher than every other team in every other season in the first three weeks of a year since at least 2000, described as historic execution. Purdy's performance is so strong that the source rates San Francisco's win probability at 7 (high confidence) despite Denver's defensive strengths, arguing the gap between Purdy and Bo Nix is so large Denver cannot overcome it.

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C.J. Stroud

NegativeRole62:34

Stroud has had a nice year but the Texans have had problems up front, especially trying to run the ball, which has cropped up again this year. After the game, Stroud said in the presser that they weren't aggressive and didn't push the ball the way they needed to; the team is bad in short yarded situations on the ground, particularly in third and short and fourth and short situations, making the easy stuff seem harder and the more difficult stuff just not seem feasible with the current health of the roster.

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Drake Maye

PositiveProjection0:31

Drake May is struggling significantly in his rookie season; he 'can't buy a deep completion' and 'certainly can't buy a red zone touchdown.' All six of his interceptions have come when holding the ball longer than 2.5 seconds while looking deep downfield, indicating a mental/decision-making issue rather than schematic. His completion percentage over-expected on vertical routes is negative this year versus plus-13.7% last year in college, and he is attempting more deep shots (21.3% vs 19.7%) but converting them at a lower rate, leaving the offense without its primary weapon.

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NegativeProjection73:15

Drake Maye's quarterback play has reduced both the Patriots' floor and ceiling; the source expresses zero confidence in the Patriots winning against Buffalo, attributing this to Maye's inability to raise the team's performance in a quarterback-driven league, with his play capping the ceiling at knee height this year.

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Jalen Hurts

NegativeRole24:00

Jalen Hurts has the opposite problem from Matthew Stafford when it comes to handling pressure; the Eagles are using more bodies in protection with him because he clearly doesn't trust his protection. The source suggests that the Eagles feel compelled to make Hurts more comfortable with extra protectors because he is not handling pressure as well as he probably should for a quarterback as veteran as he is. This comes down to trust, and both Stafford and Hurts have issues with pressure right now, just in different ways. The quarterback that figures it out first will likely win the Eagles-Rams matchup.

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James Cook

PositiveUsage0:18

James Cook ran effectively between the tackles for the Bills in Week 3 against the Chargers, providing a strong ground game option. The source highlights that 'when the Bills were able to run the ball the way that they could between the tackles last week with James Cook, you got an answer for everything,' indicating his role as a key part of the Bills' offensive balance and success.

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Jayden Higgins

NegativeInjury63:15

Higgins is out with a long-term injury, which has impacted the Texans' ability to execute their offense and be aggressive downfield.

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Josh Allen

PositiveProjection0:11

Josh Allen is performing at an elite level through three weeks; the source notes he 'looked absolutely unstoppable' in the two games prior to Week 3, and he is 'just on another planet at this point' compared to Drake May. His performance against the Chargers included two interceptions thrown into two-high safety shells and four-deep coverages, but he still led the Bills to victory despite a minus-four turnover differential, demonstrating his ability to overcome adversity.

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Justin Herbert

NegativeProjection68:27

Justin Herbert has really struggled this season; the source states it would have to be by far the best game of his season for the Chargers to keep the Seattle matchup close or upset them, indicating significant concerns about his performance level and the Chargers' offensive capability.

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Kenneth Walker III

PositiveUsage38:00

Kenneth Walker has forced 41 missed tackles so far this season, which is 12 more than the next closest player in the NFL—an absurd differential that highlights his elite elusiveness and ball security. The source notes that Walker is on a different planet right now, exemplified by a recent play where he secured the ball with perfect fundamentals after a peanut punch attempt, demonstrating the kind of high-level technique and instinct that stems from foundational work. Walker's matchup against the Raiders this week is notable because the Raiders have a 12.5% missed tackle rate (13th lowest in NFL), better than their 13.9% last year, and allow only 5 yards per missed tackle (10th fewest), suggesting they have good rally-and-finish discipline. However, the Raiders have also forced 10 fumbles in three weeks, indicating they are aggressive in trying to punch the ball.

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PositiveUsage69:44

Kenneth Walker has been amazing for the Chiefs this season and is central to their rushing offense strategy; the source notes that if the Raiders can remotely contain Walker and force Kansas City into a one-dimensional pass-heavy mode, it would significantly impact the Chiefs' ability to win, suggesting Walker's production and role are critical to Kansas City's offensive success.

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PositiveRole71:17

Kenneth Walker has been complimentary to the Chiefs offense in a way that matters for their matchup strategy; the source emphasizes Walker's role in how Kansas City operates and the stress his presence puts on young Raiders defenders.

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Kirk Cousins

NegativeMatchup32:00

Kirk Cousins and the Raiders offense will face a resurgent Chiefs defense that is top three in total EPA earned this season and features three corners capable of matching up on Brock Bowers. The Chiefs' defensive scheme, led by Steve Spagnuolo, is expected to deploy cornerbacks directly on Bowers rather than traditional linebacker or safety coverage, which could neutralize Bowers' primary advantage. The Raiders' special teams advantage (starting field position at 39.9 yard line, best in NFL) may be dialed back against the Chiefs' 11th-best special teams unit, putting more pressure on Cousins and the offense to generate real yards rather than hidden yards. The source notes that Cousins will need to rely on Bowers and other receivers to make up the difference if the special teams advantage is neutralized.

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Laquon Treadwell

PositiveMatchup63:22

Treadwell set up a game-winning field goal against the Texans defense, highlighting the Texans' defensive inconsistency in clutch moments.

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Matthew Stafford

NegativeProjection2:20

Matthew Stafford's performance under pressure has deteriorated significantly in 2024; his quarterback rating under pressure dropped from 86 last year (with 5 TDs, 0 INTs) to 28.8 this season. The source identifies this as 'the major issue' for the Rams offense, suggesting Stafford does not look the same when facing defensive pressure, which is a critical concern heading into Week 4 against the Eagles.

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NegativeProjection20:12

Stafford's performance under pressure has deteriorated significantly this season; his quarterback rating under pressure dropped from 86.0 last year to 28.8 this year, a dramatic decline that the source attributes to both Puka Nakua's absence and Stafford's own decision-making. Last year when Nakua was on the field, Stafford's pressure rating was 83.0; when Nakua was off the field, it dipped to 63.4. This year, even with Nakua available, the rating is 4.1, suggesting Stafford is not trusting his options and not getting the ball out quickly enough. Against the Eagles' 39.2% pressure rate (ninth highest in NFL), Stafford's slower release time (2.7-2.8 seconds versus Keenan Allen's sub-2.5 seconds) will be exposed, and the source warns that the MVP of last year must play better under pressure or the Rams will struggle more than expected.

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Patrick Mahomes

PositiveProjection32:00

Patrick Mahomes is a key reason the Chiefs are top three in total EPA earned this season, as the team maintains balance between Mahomes' passing and Kenneth Walker's rushing attack. The source highlights the Chiefs' balanced offensive approach as a major strength heading into their matchup against the 3-0 Raiders.

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Puka Nacua

NegativeRole21:00

Nakua's absence has been a significant factor in Stafford's struggles under pressure this season. Last year, when Nakua was on the field and Stafford faced pressure, his quarterback rating was 83.0; when Nakua was off the field, it dropped to 63.4—a 19.6-point differential. This year, Nakua has barely been on the field, and the on-off splits show a quarterback rating of only 4.1 when he is out there, though the source notes this is a small sample size. The source characterizes Nakua as a security blanket for Stafford under pressure, particularly valuable against zone blitzes and disguised coverages where Nakua's presence helps Stafford process reads faster and trust his options.

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Rashee Rice

NegativeRole69:51

The source dismisses Rasheed Rice as a dynamic downfield receiver for the Chiefs, stating 'I don't think Rasheed Rice counts' when discussing whether Kansas City has a true dynamic receiver threat; this suggests Rice is not viewed as a primary deep-threat option in the Chiefs' passing game.

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Sam Darnold

PositiveProjection68:03

Sam Darnold nearly reached 400 passing yards in Seattle's loss to Washington despite the team turning the ball over three times, showing strong individual passing production even in a game where turnovers and defensive touchdowns determined the outcome.

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Trevor Lawrence

PositiveMatchup48:48

Lawrence has been excellent against zone coverage through the first three weeks, showing confidence to make any throw especially in the red zone where space is at a premium. However, the Bengals play man coverage at a top-8 rate in the NFL this season, which could present a challenge; Lawrence's EPA per dropback against man is 0.18 versus 0.25 against zone. In the Week 2 game against Denver, Lawrence struggled in the second half when the Broncos switched to more man coverage. The source notes that Aaron Rodgers just carved up the Bengals defense last week (8 for 15, 149 yards, 2 TDs, 0.54 EPA per dropback) by hanging onto the ball and making plays happen, suggesting the Bengals' vulnerability to explosive plays despite their man coverage preference.

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PositiveMatchup61:17

Lawrence has been tearing it up specifically against zone coverage and has been phenomenal at attacking zone coverages this season; however, he's gotten more trouble with man coverage, as evidenced by his struggles in the second half of the Denver Broncos game when they switched to play a lot more man. The Bengals play man coverage at a top 8 rate in the NFL so far this season, so they could lean into what Lawrence hasn't been as stellar at this season; however, Aaron Rodgers just absolutely lit up this Bengals defense last week playing a lot of that single high cover 1 cover 3 stuff, so the tape is out there on how to beat it.

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1:40Special teams today. There is a remarkable trend across the NFL, all about special teams that is making a massive difference, not
1:47just in who's getting the most yards, but who's winning and losing games.
1:51Trevor, are you ready to talk about the third phase?
1:54Oh, I'm more than ready. We talked about in the reaction show how close all of those games were this past Sunday.
2:01How there were more one-score finishes on that Sunday than we had seen in such a long time.
2:06And the more that I thought about it, I was like, you know what?
2:11I look at these teams, like the Raiders, the Cardinals, the Dolphins, these teams that were supposed to be cellar dwellers, right?
2:18Pencil in the win. It's an easy win. They're going to be terrible this year.
2:22And you look at these teams, these teams look competitive.
2:25They look good. It's tighter matchups between these lower teams.
2:28And to me, it signals the fact that the floor of the NFL this season feels so much higher.
2:34And so when we dug into maybe why, well, you get to the part of the game that often gets overlooked and underappreciated, under-talked about.
2:42And that is special teams. And from there, the wonderful people at NextGenStats, they found us the data to actually back up
2:49the fact that this is making a major difference this year.
2:52It's up. It is good! He's perfect on the young season!
2:56Yeah, if you're just looking at the box score, right?
2:59Like how many yards your offense got, how many yards your defense held the opposing offense to, it's easy to get a
3:06sense of how a game went in that way.
3:09But it rarely tells the whole story, which is why if you're looking at average starting field position differential, that's where a
3:15lot of the hidden yards in the game shows up.
3:19Because the better your starting field position, the less yards your offense has to get to score.
3:24Math, baby! Math! Math! Math, right? Shows up in scoring drive percentage.
3:28That's another big number we're going to get to today.
3:31And if you're looking at the teams that are best in terms of average starting field position differential, how good is our
3:38starting field position versus how good is the opponent's starting field position, right at the very top is the Raiders at plus 12.2 yards.
3:45That showed up even last week, right? When the Saints turned the ball over four times, they started one of those drives inside the Saints' 10-yard line.
3:54They started another one of those drives effectively at midfield.
3:57So you don't have to get as many yards to score to make that comeback like the Raiders did when you're set up for success like that.
4:05That happened with the Broncos, right? One of the things that spurred their comeback was a huge punt return.
4:11And then the Rams had a bad punt that set up the Broncos at midfield for their next score.
4:17Like this stuff matters. The yards don't go away just because you're not getting them on offense.
4:22You're just getting them from a different unit. And that's special teams or in some cases defense if you're getting turnovers.
4:29And if you're looking at the teams that are bad in average starting field position differential, you got the Chargers at negative 9.1 yards.
4:36That shows up. It makes Justin Herbert have to work harder.
4:40And he hasn't exactly been himself this season. So it's something that doesn't show up in the box score, but you feel it while you're watching the game.
4:48Like you feel like your offense always has to dig out of a hole or you feel like your defense is always put in a position to succeed.
4:57And having this kind of number, starting field position differential, it tells the story that I don't think has really gotten told so far this season.
5:05When you look at best average starting field position, the Raiders are at the top of that list, right?
5:11I mean, we're highlighting them for a reason as a team that's playing really well.
5:16And when you look at their EPA per play on offense or even just total EPA, they're kind of like right around the middle of the league.
5:24And yet they're sitting here at 3-0. And it goes into sort of what you said, like where are the hidden yards?
5:31Where's the hidden advantage? It's here. Raiders, 39.9 yard line is their starting field position.
5:36Panthers are right behind them. And Panthers, high-scoring team, they put up a lot of points to start the season.
5:42They're right at the 35-yard line. Bengals right behind them at the 33.7 yard line as an average for their starting field position.
5:49And then when you look at some of the worst average starting field position, well, it's three teams that have been very frustrating to start the year.
5:58The Patriots, just a 25.6 yard line starting field position average.
6:01The Rams, a 25.8. The Texans, a 26.4. So these are teams that are having slower starts to the season that you go, man, what's up?
6:09And obviously there are things on offense and defense that are sort of hampering them that we've talked about already this season.
6:16But special teams are such a, again, underappreciated and under-talked about factor when it comes to how close these teams have been on the scoreboard.
6:24And I think it matters a lot because the new kickoff rules have totally changed things.
6:29Oh, yeah. Like it kind of goes into head coaching decisions, right?
6:33You and I have talked about timeout management, fourth down decisions, all that kinds of stuff.
6:38It's winning in the little margins that sometimes mean the world to games that have a sliver margin for error.
6:44You have to win in those margins. Coaching decisions are one of them.
6:48Special teams are absolutely another. And the way that special teams are set up in today's NFL, if you start out with
6:55the ball around the 35-yard line, Brett, how many players are you away from field goal range at this point?
7:01In the case of the Ravens, one. You are so much closer to potentially putting points on the board that this cannot
7:08be overstated, just how important special teams are. One of the things that NGS tracks is coaching decisions, right?
7:14Are you going for it or are you punting?
7:17Are you kicking a field goal? Are you punting?
7:19And it's determined by win probability added, right? Are you going to get a higher win probability if you make a certain decision?
7:26You know, they track how often coaches are aggressive versus conservative relative to what the recommendation is.
7:32I would advocate we need to track another decision beyond field goals, punting and going for it.
7:37And that's the willingness to intentionally give the other team a touchback at the 35-yard line, right?
7:42This was brought up by Jesse Minner after the Cowboys game.
7:46They decided to kick a touchback, gave us the ball in the 35.
7:50We really only needed, you know, 18-plus yards to get to our, you know, end-of-game type of range.
7:55The touchback rule is huge. Like, it's the 35-yard line, so...
7:59That added five yards of field position matters a lot.
8:02Like, even if you're just looking at pre-new kickoff rules, right now that average starting field position after a kickoff is 31.1 yards.
8:09Before the new kickoff rules, it was at 26.5 yards.
8:12That's worth a lot in terms of average scoring drive percentage.
8:16Huge difference. Huge difference. 4-5%. If you amplify that even more out to the 35, you're one throw away, in the case
8:23of the Ravens, from getting into these kickers' ranges that are, you know, past 60 yards at this point.
8:29And so I would like to track coaches that intentionally give those extra five yards of field position on a touchback versus just trusting their unit to cover.
8:37Because, in my mind, that's kicking scared, in a way.
8:40Because you don't trust your kickoff unit to keep them under 35, and so you're giving them the 35, which means you
8:47have 20 yards of cushion, if that. That decision cost Dallas.
8:51It cost Houston. You know, there was another special teams rule change that I don't think has gotten covered enough.
8:57Now teams have the ability to prepare these balls essentially a week in advance for these kickers.
9:02And so ranges have gotten extended, not to mention the kickers these days are just better.
9:07And you're giving them the ability to prepare these balls.
9:10Like, they used to only have, I think, 90 minutes before kickoff.
9:14Now they have days to do it and really dial in the ball how they want it to be.
9:20And by the way, we do have some stats to back this up.
9:24If you're looking at the number of 50-plus yard field goals attempted since 2023, on average, it's 172.5 per year.
9:30Before then, there was never more than 120 in a season.
9:34That's a massive jump. This year, by the way, we're on pace for 198.
9:38Like, these kickers are going nuts, dude. It wasn't long ago to where a 60-plus yard field goal, like a 61, 62 yards, was considered, like, insane, right?
9:47And now, if you don't have a kicker where hitting a 60-yarder, they're at least capable of doing it, you're out.
9:53They'll find somebody else who could do it. It's just crazy, the growth of this.
9:58Now, you mentioned how they can prep some of these field goal balls.
10:02I think people are going to ask, like, what does that look like?
10:06So the things that you could do, apply a wet towel to the ball, brushing the football by hand with a new
10:13ball brush, using the side of the brush to soften the leather and remove the slickness to it.
10:19Ultimately, what this is doing is it's putting more life into the football.
10:23I mean, Cam Little attempted a 70-yard field goal this past week.
10:26An attempt that a couple of years ago wouldn't even seem plausible.
10:30Just amazing to see the kicking range of these guys in the NFL.
10:34You can't just overlook this and say, eh, you know, we don't really love our special teams kick coverage group, so we're
10:41just going to boot it in the end zone and give it to them at the 35.
10:46This is going to be something that's extremely important to monitor throughout this season, but also in the future seasons to, again,
10:53where is this emphasis on special teams going to be more and more important when we get to the offseason?
10:59And you know how, like, later in the draft we go, oh, they drafted this guy for special teams.
11:05You might start to see serious premiums on guys who are truly difference makers in special teams when it comes to those
11:12kick coverage groups because you do not and you cannot have the other team start with the football at the 35 for free.
11:19Y'all have my back. I love having y'all's back.
11:22If you're in those special teams meetings, you know we gotta return!
11:26Let's get into some of these game previews, though, because we do got to talk about the New England Patriots and the Buffalo Bills.
11:33This is a premier matchup, I think, before the season started.
11:37Everybody was really looking forward to this, but now, Brett, it's two teams on different trajectories.
11:42The Bills lost the turnover differential by four last week and still were able to win the game.
11:47Before that, the previous two games, Josh Allen looked absolutely unstoppable.
11:51And on the other side of things, it feels like it couldn't look worse for the New England Patriots.
11:57Well, my concern level is very high for this football team.
12:00Not to beat a dead horse, but the Bills special teams is pretty good, too.
12:05They have the fifth-best average starting field position at 32.7 yards and the sixth-most special teams EPA so far this year.
12:11That was a big reason why, you know, I mean, they were always going to be a tricky matchup with the Chargers,
12:18but the Chargers special teams is bad. Bills special teams is good.
12:22That certainly helps make up the difference for five turnovers in a game, right?
12:26When you also add in, Josh Allen is just on another planet at this point.
12:31Drake May can't buy a deep completion. Certainly can't buy a red zone touchdown.
12:35They have more turnovers in the red zone than touchdowns at this point.
12:40You kind of need every advantage you can get to win a game like this if you're New England, and they have almost every disadvantage you can have.
12:48It's a really, really tough matchup for them. A lot tougher than I thought it was going to be, you know, a month ago.
12:56The Drake May conversation, I don't even necessarily think it's too much schematically.
13:00I think a lot of it's mental for Drake May.
13:03Because when you look at some of the areas where you would think that Drake May would have an advantage, where it's
13:10no blitz or being able to hold onto the ball a little bit longer, that's the area where Drake May seems to struggle the most this season.
13:18All six of his interceptions have come when he has held the ball for longer than two and a half seconds.
13:25It is when he is looking deep down the field.
13:28Throws down the middle. It's intercepted. Julian Love. I think that this is a natural progression of good quarterbacks.
13:34You start and you get this hot shot young quarterback who's got all the arm talent in the world.
13:40And the NFL, a lot of defense coordinators will say, all right, buddy, we're going to throw the kitchen sink at you.
13:47We're going to blitz you. We're going to play tight man coverage.
13:50Nobody's going to be open immediately. What are you going to do with it?
13:55And the best quarterbacks, they're able to say, hey, now I got my guy one-on-one.
13:59I'm going to finish my drop back. Boom, there it is.
14:03I'm going to give him a shot to the sideline outside the numbers.
14:07And that's what a lot of Drake May's best stuff was last year.
14:11Well, the natural progression, if you remember, the league had a problem with this with Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes.
14:17And the league said, okay, here's what we're going to do.
14:21We're going to play two higher. We're going to play, you know, three deep, four deep, whatever it is.
14:26And we're going to dare you to be patient.
14:29We're going to make it so you have to take everything underneath.
14:33And Drake May just doesn't want to do it.
14:36And there's kind of a reason why that that might be the case just from an offensive standpoint with the Patriots.
14:42When you look at the Patriots, their 8% missed tackle rate by wide receivers last year was the third lowest in the NFL.
14:50And this year, it's no better. None of their wide receivers have forced a missed tackle yet this season.
14:55So, Brett, you kind of combine things a little bit here.
14:59The quick game with wide receivers isn't very dynamic for you, so you don't want to go to that a lot.
15:05The running game has either been inefficient, non-dynamic, or sometimes both at the same time.
15:10So you don't love going to the ground game.
15:13So you have the ball in Drake May's hands a lot longer, which is playing right into what the defense wants him to do.
15:20Against the Bills specifically for this matchup, they don't play man.
15:24They're playing man coverage at one of the lowest rates this season, 14.5%.
15:28That's seventh lowest in the NFL. So all that to say, I don't mean to pile on, but I don't know if
15:35it gets better for the Patriots this week. This is a tough matchup for them.
15:39My comp would be if the late 2010s Warriors just stopping able to shoot threes, because last year's offense was very much
15:46kind of about the three ball, right? He's still taken those shots down the field as much as he did before.
15:53If you're looking at percentage of attempts that are 20-plus yards down the field, he targeted those vertical routes on 19.7% of his attempts.
16:00And then if you're looking at this year, it's up to 21.3%.
16:04So he's actually being more aggressive than he was last year.
16:08It's just balls not going in the hoop, right?
16:10If you're looking at his completion percentage over-expected last year on vertical routes, it was plus 13.7%, which is nuts, because those
16:17are already low percentage balls as it is. They call them 50-50 balls for a reason.
16:22So if you're hitting them at that rate, yeah, your EPA per play is going to look crazy because you're hitting a
16:29bunch of explosive plays that most teams aren't going to hit.
16:32This year, he's negative on completion percentage over-expected on those.
16:36So he's attempting more of them, and he's worse at it, which means the offense is stalling because the run game's inconsistent.
16:42You know, weirdly enough, the best player on the offense this year has been Will Campbell, but I would say pass protection's
16:49been up and down outside of Will Campbell. And when you're not hitting those three balls, for lack of a better comparison,
16:56you kind of just don't have anything else. And they were so good at it last year that they didn't need to have anything else.
17:04It's not like they were a great yak team last year.
17:07Like you said, they were third lowest rate in missed tackles forced after the catch by their receivers last year.
17:14They're terrible at it again this year. It's just they don't have that shot down the boundary to be their comfort food.
17:20I don't know how you fix this other than just learning how to operate the offense completely differently, right?
17:26Develop a real quick game. Be able to get some yards after the catch, which is really more on the receivers than
17:33on May, but ball placement does matter for that.
17:36But like, you got to break a tackle at some point.
17:40They need to go back to basics and stop just trying to trickshot their way down the field because it's not working.
17:46It hasn't looked good for the Patriots. And then really quick for Buffalo's side, Josh Allen did throw his two interceptions last week against two high safety shells.
17:55I believe it was four deep coverages on both of those interceptions from him.
17:59Essentially, it was the Chargers daring him to throw things underneath.
18:03And he got a little over his skis and he threw those interceptions there.
18:07The Patriots do run two high safeties right around the middle of the pack of the NFL this season.
18:13And so they could see a decent amount of that and they could lean a little bit more into that.
18:19But man, when the Bills were able to run the ball the way that they could between the tackles last week with
18:26James Cook, you got an answer for everything. Just like you said, the Patriots have not been able to do this.
18:33The Bills looked at last week and said, all right, well, Josh Allen's really struggling to throw deep down the field.
18:39Let's run the ball. The advantage that they had doing that was amazing.
18:43So I think it's full Bills advantage for this game.
18:47If the Patriots win, it's going to take by far the best game of their season.
18:52Reaches for the goal line and he's into the end zone.
18:55The cook is in the kitchen. The Rams and the Eagles are the next game that I want to touch on here
19:02because Brett is the loser in big trouble in this game for both of these teams.
19:07Obviously, only one team can win. And technically, both teams could tie, but whoever loses this game, I think that the season's,
19:14man, taking a real bad turn for them. You basically have to win to keep pace for the one seed in the NFC.
19:21And these are two teams that want the one seed in the NFC.
19:25If the Rams start one and three, I don't know how they're going to be able to do that.
19:31When the two other teams that potentially could get the one seed are in their division, that's tough sledding.
19:37And the Eagles, they're in a fight with Dallas for this division at this point.
19:41I know Dallas hasn't exactly started off the best in the win loss column, but just watching them using my eyeballs, I
19:48would say Dallas might be a bigger threat right now than Philly just because their offense looks so discombobulated.
19:54The throw intercepted by T.J. Edwards. So, yeah, both these teams have to win this game.
19:59It feels early for a must win, but if you're looking at the macro of the season and setting up who's winning
20:06your division, who's not winning your division, difference between a one seed and a five seed potentially, this is huge.
20:12For the Rams, I know a lot of the talk has been on the defense side of the ball, right?
20:19You know, Miles Garrett, Aaron Donald hasn't been the high impact player that some people thought that he'd just be able to pop off the couch and be.
20:27I think it's going to take a little bit of time for Aaron Donald.
20:32And I just think the defensive line overall hasn't been as ferocious as it was last year and we thought that it was going to be.
20:40But really, the major issue to me is on the offensive side because Stafford does not look the same specifically under pressure this season.
20:47When you look at Matthew Stafford, his numbers under pressure last year.
20:51I mean, he threw five touchdowns, zero interceptions, 86 quarterback rating.
20:54I mean, this year under pressure, he has a 28.8 quarterback rating.
20:58It is just totally different for him. And then specifically, I mean, you want to talk about, okay, well, is it a Puka Nakua thing?
21:06Is it just the fact that Nakua has not been out there?
21:10It could be a little bit of that. I mean, the on-off splits for them this year, it's a small sample size.
21:17But when Puka Nakua has been on the field, it still hasn't been great.
21:21The quarterback rating under pressure was 4.1, but Nakua has barely been out there.
21:25So I wouldn't necessarily take that too much into account.
21:28But it's last year's numbers under pressure that I think do mean a little bit more.
21:33And certainly, surprise, surprise, one of the best wide receivers in the game is out there.
21:38The quarterback plays better. I know. But when Nakua was out there on the field, when Stafford faced pressure, he still had a quarterback rating of an 83.0.
21:47And then when Nakua was off the field all of last year, that dipped to a 63.4 quarterback rating.
21:53So I think the Nakua's absence certainly means a good amount here.
21:57But it's worse than even that difference last year would have led you to believe.
22:01Stafford just is not trusting things. He is not getting the ball out when he needs to, where he needs to.
22:08And specifically for this Eagles matchup, the Eagles have generated the ninth highest pressure rate in the NFL at a 39.2.
22:15So again, you talk about this game meaning a lot to both sides.
22:19Stafford's got to look better. Against a team that has been able to generate pressure.
22:23Although this past weekend, the Eagles weren't really able to generate pressure because Keenan was getting the ball out of his hands
22:30in less than two and a half seconds. Stafford's much more around, you know, 2.7, 2.8.
22:35So he's not that quick with getting the ball out of his hands.
22:39But ultimately, Brett, we got to see better answers from Stafford.
22:43The MVP of last year has to be able to play better under pressure.
22:47Or I think that this game could be, again, more of a struggle than you would think for this Rams team.
22:53And you know, you bring up those splits. And to me, that shows what a safety or rather security blanket Puka's been for him under pressure.
23:02Because most blitzes in the NFL are not man blitzes.
23:05They're zone blitzes, right? It's either going to be a 3-3 fire zone, three deep, three under with five rushing.
23:11Or, you know, the popular thing these days, because Brian Flores does it all the time, you call it a quarters fire zone or a palms fire zone.
23:20It's too deep. And then you still have five coming after the quarterback.
23:24We've seen teams throw six bodies at the quarterback.
23:27They faced a bunch of double mug looks against Denver, where we're just putting a bunch of guys in the line of scrimmage.
23:34And it's on you to figure out who's coming and who's going.
23:37I mean, that last pick that he threw against Hufunga, the pick six, it was a brilliantly disguised zero blitz that did not look like zero pre-snap.
23:46And so they do have to sort this out because it kind of feels like teams have figured out their protections a
23:53little bit of like, okay, they are not going to block it up with seven.
23:57They're going to block it up with five or six at most.
24:01And they're trusting their MVP quarterback to sort out the free runner.
24:05And they're saying like, hey, you have an old quarterback who we think we can outnumber in terms of number of rushers versus your protectors.
24:13He can't get away. So we know the ball has to come out quick.
24:17That's how Hufunga got the pick six is because it was a really nicely disguised zero.
24:22He knew they were going to free rusher balls out immediately.
24:25He just steps in front of the running back.
24:28They have to figure out a new protection plan that involves more bodies or teams are just going to keep doing this to them.
24:36They're just going to keep blitzing him because he can't get away.
24:39And to kind of loop the Eagles back in here, I would say Hertz has the opposite problem.
24:45They've been using more bodies in protection with him because he clearly doesn't trust his protection.
24:50And so they feel like they have to make him more comfortable with extra protectors because he's not handling the pressure as
24:57well as he probably should for a quarterback as veteran as he is.
25:01And to me, that comes down to trust. All this to say, both quarterbacks have issues with pressure right now, just in different kind of ways.
25:09And the quarterback that figures it out first is probably going to win this game.
25:14We did mention that this is going to be tough whichever team loses this game, but specifically for the Rams, Brett, if
25:21they lose against the Eagles this week, they're one and three on the season to start.
25:26They then play Monday Night Football against the Buffalo Bills the next week.
25:30Obviously very tough. Then they have a stretch of the Cardinals, the Raiders, the Chargers, the Commanders, and the Cardinals again.
25:36I mentioned a couple of those teams playing way better than we thought that they were going to this season.
25:42You might have to go 4-1 at worst during that stretch because then you have your bye week in week 11 if you're the Rams.
25:50But then it goes Green Bay, Kansas City, San Francisco, Dallas, Seattle, Tampa Bay, Seattle.
25:55Like I know we talked about the one seed.
25:58If you lose this game, you're putting so much pressure on yourself in that five game stretch from the Cardinals to the Cardinals right in between those.
26:06I mean, you almost have to go 5-0, which is a very, very, very tough thing to tell yourself you have to
26:13do even for a team that's as talented as the Rams.
26:16So for the Super Bowl favorites, I don't want to say they're in trouble early, but they got to pick it up
26:23or they might be looking at not just not getting the one seed.
26:27Are they the Super Bowl favorites still? No, I'm saying the Super Bowl favorites going into the season, like by far, you know, everybody would have.
26:35No, no, no, no, no. No, I think that there are many other teams that are now in that conversation, but going
26:42into the year, you'd be hard pressed to find really anybody that was betting against the Rams this year.
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26:54So there's clarity of how we can coach them to play technique and fundamentally through the cycle of the snap.
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29:11All right, before we get to our next game, we're going to do a blind resume real quick.
29:17I want you guys at home to also play along with us.
29:20This is a new game we're trying out here.
29:23Trevor, are you ready to identify the team based on the blind resume that I give you?
29:29I feel like I should have had something to actually cover my eyes for the visual here for the blind resume.
29:35But yes, I am ready. Let's do it. Let's go.
29:38Yeah, we'll get NFL Pro branded blindfolds for next time.
29:41So here's your resume. Third in explosive pass rate.
29:44Fourth in 12 personnel usage. First in yards before contact.
29:47This is all one team with these three stats together.
29:50Your choices. The Ravens, the Bills, the Chiefs. Yards before contact?
29:54Kenneth Walker's forced a ton of missed tackles, but like, if you could do that after the fact as well, it doesn't
30:01have to be right at the line. Oh man, these are like three of the teams that I would have thought of here.
30:08I'm going to go with the Chiefs. I'm going to go with the Chiefs here for this one.
30:13Finally, Callie got you and not me. Dang it!
30:16That is wrong. The answer is the Baltimore Ravens.
30:19Ah, man. You hate to see it. You hate to see it.
30:23No, I'm just kidding. Baltimore fans love to see it.
30:26I actually love to see this. It's about time somebody else got something wrong.
30:30Ah, man. All right, the streak is over. Streak is over.
30:34I was 3-0 on our researcher, Callie, and she got me here.
30:37So the streak resets here. Okay, here is your question for Blind Resume.
30:41This team, this mystery team, fourth in time to pressure, third in overall offensive success, and first in tackling efficiency.
30:48Okay? So the 49ers, the Buffalo Bills, or the Detroit Lions.
30:51So once again, fourth in time to pressure, third in overall offensive success, first in tackling efficiency.
30:56I feel like the Bills game disqualifies the Lions immediately as far as tackling efficiency.
31:01I would not have gotten this answer. Oh, Callie, you're killing me.
31:05Give me the teams again. The Niners, the Bills, and the Lions.
31:09See, now I think it might be the Lions because she knows that I wouldn't think it's the Lions.
31:15Mm-hmm. It's the game within the game. It's the mental game.
31:18Now he's no longer thinking about the statistics. No.
31:21He's thinking about the interactions personally that he has had over the last couple of weeks as we've been doing our show prep and gathering notes.
31:29It's like poker, man. You're playing the players. You're not playing the cards.
31:33You are. You're playing the players here. Yeah. Give me the Lions?
31:37It is the Lions. Yes! Yes! Finally! Finally! Oh, my God.
31:40It is the Lions. And honestly, man, that's why I said I would not have gotten this one.
31:46I would not have gotten this answer. I would have disqualified the Lions right off the bat.
31:51They're giving up the most passing yards per game, which I would have thought that their secondary would have been terrible at tackling to, again, disqualify them completely.
32:00But good on you, man. Good on you for recognizing the trap.
32:04That's tough to do. Well done, my friend. Well done.
32:07All I have to do is just recognize the bait.
32:10If it's too easy, that means it's actually correct.
32:13I may not know the teams, but I know when somebody's trying to get in my head.
32:18Chiefs and the Raiders. I do want to touch on these two teams because, hey, 3-0, 3-0.
32:23Undefeated versus undefeated, baby. Who thought that this was going to happen here in Week 4?
32:28It's a very intriguing matchup for a lot of reasons.
32:31I think the Chiefs could have expected they'd be in the spot.
32:35Not a lot of people expected the Raiders to be.
32:38So where do you want to start with this game preview?
32:42Let's just keep up with the theme of the day.
32:45Special teams, right? This is a matchup between two really good special teams units.
32:49Average starting field position for the Raiders, again, best in the NFL so far this year, at the 39.9 yard line.
32:56So they're starting drives basically at midfield. Meanwhile, the Chiefs are starting drives at the 32, which is still 11th best.
33:02So their return unit's also really good. And they are plus 2.7 EPA on special teams, which is also 11th best.
33:09So the hidden yardage advantage that the Raiders have had so far this season might be dialed back a bit in this
33:16one, which then puts more pressure on Cousins and Bowers and Genty and all these guys to kind of make up that
33:22difference and get the real yards instead of the hidden yards.
33:26The question I have is, can they do that against a resurgent Chiefs defense that has a bunch of DBs that are
33:33playing out of their mind and have not one, not two, but three corners that could match up on Brock Bowers and potentially do some damage?
33:41Yeah, Bowers, I mean, you talk about the things that are going well for the Raiders.
33:46You figure that Brock Bowers was going to be one of them.
33:50He absolutely is. I just wanted to kind of put it into context how well he is playing right now.
33:56When we talk about Bowers versus other tight ends, his plus 0.25 EPA per route run is sixth most in the NFL,
34:03and it's the most amongst all tight ends with a minimum of 20 routes this season.
34:08And his 0.66 EPA per target, seventh most amongst tight ends with a minimum of five targets.
34:13But just to quantify sort of how good Brock Bowers is, not just against tight ends, but against all of these top receiving options in the NFL.
34:21You look at his EPA per play when he is on the field.
34:25So we're looking at splits on and off the field.
34:28When you look at when he is on, the only other wide receiver that has a higher EPA per play when he
34:35is on the field is CeeDee Lamb. Brock Bowers' 0.10 EPA per play when he is on the field is higher than Jackson Smith and Jigba.
34:43It's higher than Tee Higgins. It's higher than Jamar Chase.
34:47Now the differential of on-off splits is a little bit lower than a couple of those other guys.
34:52But he's right there in that category. And that's been huge, obviously, for the Raiders this season.
34:57And he's sort of been Kirk Cousins' best friend throughout the year when he has been out there.
35:03But I think that you are right. I think that the Chiefs have a unique ability, not only in their players, but
35:10also in their coach, to get creative with how they match up against Bowers.
35:14You talked about this, how Bowers is a tight end basically only by name.
35:19He is a wide receiver. He is running routes from the slot.
35:22He is running routes from out wide. He is a wide receiver.
35:26And so with that, why bother putting a linebacker against him?
35:30Why bother putting a safety against Brock Bowers? He's not a tight end.
35:34There's no reason to line up a linebacker and a safety, which often gives Brock Bowers that advantage when teams try to do that.
35:41He's a wide receiver. Sure, put a Jerry Snead on him.
35:45Put Noel Williams on him, right? I mean, like, just put a corner.
35:49Put Delaney on him. Any of them. Put a corner on Brock Bowers.
35:53And I think that Steve Spagnuolo is going to say, hell yeah, I'm going to do that.
35:58So I think obviously he's going to mean the world if Brock Bowers doesn't have a big day.
36:04I'm not so sure that the Raiders can keep up with the Chiefs.
36:08And I think that that's how Kansas City is actually going to try to neutralize him.
36:13Yeah, he had 33 routes last week. 25 of them were in the slot or out wide, which is just a wide receiver number.
36:20If you're looking at how often he was detached from the formation, this is per NextGenStats, 74.0% of his snaps, up from
36:2753.2% last year when they at least kind of pretended he was a tight end.
36:32They're not even doing that anymore. He was aligned out wide or in the slot on all of his receptions.
36:38And Vegas head coach Clint Kubiak has not deployed a quote-unquote tight end detached from the formation on at least 50% of
36:45his snaps as an offensive coordinator or head coach before Bowers.
36:48It's the first time he's ever done it. So he's not a tight end.
36:53And the thing that I am fascinated by is when his eventual contract extension comes up, is he going to allow himself
36:59to be paid like a tight end? Because I wouldn't if I was him with this agent.
37:05No, no, no. They're absolutely... Now, remember, was Jimmy Graham kind of the first, most notable headline-y one?
37:10Jimmy Graham led the team in catches, receiving yards and touchdowns.
37:14And it was about to hit the market, but the Saints want to keep him.
37:18And they're expected to use their franchise tag on the fourth-year pro.
37:22Graham took to Twitter and said, confirming it's officially Franchise Friday.
37:26Tag. I guess I'm it. It was back in 2014.
37:29There was an argument over the franchise tag, and they had an independent arbiter that ruled he was a tight end based
37:36on percentage of snaps in line versus outwiden in the slot.
37:39And it was a lot closer to 50-50. It's not 50-50 in Vegas.
37:43It's 74%. So he's basically being used the same way that Puka is in Sean McVay's Wildest Dreams.
37:49That's a receiver. Like his contract, if he gets franchise tag, I would bet they're going to argue it's as a receiver.
37:56But when he does get his extension, he's not going to be scaling off Trey McBride.
38:01He's going to be scaling off Jamar Chase. I agree.
38:04I agree. On the Chiefs side of things, before we move on here, a team that's top three in total EPA earned this season.
38:11Big reason why is because of how balanced they can be with Patrick Mahomes and then obviously Kenneth Walker.
38:17But what do you think about Kenneth Walker's matchup against the Las Vegas Raiders this week?
38:22He's got 41 missed tackles for so far this year.
38:25It's 12 more than the next closest player, which is absurd.
38:29The key for this matchup to me is just can the Raiders continue being as good at tackling as they have been so far this year.
38:37And they were quietly a very good run defense last year.
38:40It's just the volume stats made them look worse than they actually were.
38:44Efficiency wise, they were a very good run defense.
38:47But if you're looking at their missed tackle rate as a defense, they're at 12.5%, which is 13th lowest in the NFL.
38:54So slightly above average. That's better than the 13.9% they had last year.
38:58So they're even better at tackling than they were before.
39:015 yards allowed per missed tackle, which is 10th fewest.
39:04They were at 5.3 last season. So even when they miss, there's always somebody else there to rally and finish the job.
39:11And they have 10. Is this a real number?
39:1410 forced fumbles? We're three weeks into the year.
39:17I thought I misread that. Get after it, baby.
39:19Punch the ball. What the hell? Create turnovers. Name of the game.
39:23We've been talking about it all year. How do you get the little advantages?
39:2810 forced fumbles. But that's a team that is just flying around trying to make plays, man.
39:33And I think that, look, I'll be up front.
39:36I'm not picking the Raiders in this game. However, I love what they're doing.
39:40I love what John Spitek has done. I love very clearly the culture that Clint Kubiak has established within that locker room
39:47and within that team early on to where you've even got young guys flying around believing that they can make plays at the highest level.
39:55So you better believe that if they do win this game against the Chiefs, I cannot wait to talk about this team
40:01and give them their flowers in the reaction show that you guys can see next Monday.
40:06So again, I'm not quite picking the Raiders. I am picking the Chiefs in this game.
40:11But man, if they're able to take down the Chiefs and they look good, this is a story that we are going
40:18to have to continue to tell through a megaphone now at this point if they become 4-0.
40:24That's what resilience looks like, okay? That's you guys believing in each other, okay?
40:28Never say and die. Okay, and fight until the very end.
40:31Say, so proud of you. So proud of the effort.
40:35I'm not surprised though. I'm not surprised about how that turned out.
40:38One last note here. Did you see the video that the Chiefs posted of Kenneth Walker and his run last week the
40:45offense player came in and perfectly peanut punched the ball and he just went, goosh, and just blocked it.
40:51Like, he just secured the ball like fractions of a second.
40:54He's like, nope, my ball and just kept going.
40:57Unreal, dude. Like, he is just on a different planet right now.
41:01You know what that stems from? When you're in high school and you're walking around from class to class holding the football.
41:08That's what you gotta do. And everybody's just on it.
41:11Fundamentals. That's where that begins, baby. What a burst.
41:14Incredible torque. Finds 22 yards and he takes the ball to the 47 of the Chiefs.
41:19For Broncos 49ers. Brett, it unfortunately feels like it's just another season for the Niners when it comes to injuries.
41:25They're just racking up so many guys that were either hitting IR short-term, long-term.
41:29This depth chart looks so different than what it was even four weeks ago right before the season.
41:35But the fact of the matter is it doesn't matter because Brock Purdy is playing that well.
41:40He is playing at an elite level and he is giving them a chance no matter who's on the offensive line, no
41:47matter who he is throwing the ball to, no matter what their defense looks like, no matter what country the game is
41:54being played in, Brock Purdy is giving them a chance to beat any opponent at any given time.
42:00He is playing the position about as well as you can for a player who has his skill set.
42:06He's been unbelievable. I've mentioned some incredible football players so far that should be on the MVP ballot.
42:11All right, Josh Allen, Lamar, Kenneth Walker. I would put Brock Purdy at the very top.
42:16If I had to give an MVP after three weeks, he has been sensational in almost every single way.
42:22If you're looking at his career success rates at 52.6%, that leads every quarterback in the NFL since he got in the league in 2023.
42:30Not so irrelevant after all, I guess. He's the only quarterback, by the way, in that time span with multiple seasons of 50% or higher.
42:38This year, he's at 64% success rate. For people that don't know what that is, it's essentially a metric that tracks how on schedule your offense is.
42:46If it's first and 10, if your offense gains four yards, that's considered a successful play.
42:51You get to second and six. If you gain three yards, that's considered a successful play because it just sets up third and short.
42:59Just can you stay ahead of the sticks? Can you stay on schedule?
43:0364% of the time, that's what he's doing, which is just unreasonable like as a metric.
43:08Just nobody does that in the modern NFL. And if you're looking at how that translates into scoring drive success, the Niners
43:14offense has scored touchdowns on 48.1% of their drives this year, easily highest in the NFL.
43:19That's highest through the first three weeks in a season since at least the year 2000.
43:24Like they didn't start tracking it before then. It might be the best ever.
43:29We don't know. But at least in the best in recent history, this is the most effective offense Kyle Shanahan's ever had.
43:36And Kyle Shanahan's coordinated some of the best offenses ever, right?
43:39You look at the 2016 Falcons, you look at the late 2000s Texans, just looking at some of the other 49ers offenses that he's led.
43:47There's nothing that's ever been this good ever. Like we don't have a comparison for this.
43:52That is how dominant Purdy has been and how in the zone Kyle Shanahan has been.
43:57Yeah, I'm going to run through some numbers really quick just to quantify exactly what you're talking about.
44:03Brock Purdy versus zone this season. Completion percentage, fourth highest in the NFL.
44:07Yards per attempt, also fourth highest. EPA per dropback, most in the NFL.
44:11All right, what about in the intermediate area? Completion percentage, third highest.
44:14Yards per attempt, second highest. EPA per dropback, oh, once again, most in the NFL.
44:19And then over the middle of the field where he has been so fantastic.
44:23Completion percentage, seventh highest. Yards per attempt, fifth highest.
44:26EPA per dropback, sixth most. 152 total yards over the middle of the field, most in the NFL.
44:32They said he couldn't do it. They said he was too short.
44:36They said he couldn't see over the middle of the field.
44:39But I think that, you know, a little bit tongue-in-cheek there.
44:42But I think that goes into something that Brock Purdy said himself on a podcast where he said, hey man, look, in
44:49the NFL, I've talked to Kyle Shanahan about this.
44:5240% of the throws that you have, you're not going to be able to see when guys are open.
44:58You're throwing to a spot. You're throwing to a zone.
45:01You've got to have that much confidence in what you are seeing.
45:05And the confidence works both ways because Kyle Shanahan also said recently that he compared the confidence that he has in Brock Purdy to Matt Ryan in 2016.
45:14That MVP caliber season from Matt Ryan. That's the comfort level that we're talking about.
45:18So we've gushed over Brock Purdy a little bit here, but there's another quarterback on the other side in Bo Nix who
45:25also has the ability to play the position at a high level.
45:29But do you think from what we've seen from Nix over the first couple of weeks, you have faith in him keeping
45:36up with Purdy and ending up winning this game?
45:39What do you think? Well, that's the issue, right, is the keeping up.
45:43I think if this is a one possession game in the fourth quarter, let's just say it's one possession because the Broncos
45:49defense, you know, steps up to the challenge and holds this incredible Niners offense down at least a little bit.
45:56If this is a one possession game, yeah, Bo Nix can win it.
46:00And we've seen him do that over and over and over again.
46:03Look at the Eagles game last year, look at the Giants game last year, look at the Rams game.
46:09If the game is close in the fourth quarter and you just need him to put together one drive, he can put together that one drive.
46:18The problem is if the game's already out of reach because of how he plays in the first three quarters, I have
46:24pretty big worries that he's going to be able to dig them out of the hole that he creates.
46:30And the 30-point second-half explosion. Why can't we do this in the first half?
46:35If you're looking at just the first three quarters from that Sunday night game against the Rams, his yards per attempt was 3.9.
46:42The fourth quarter was 9.9. But even if you're just looking at completions on attempts, he was only four of nine in that quarter.
46:49Like, he completed less than 50% of his passes.
46:52It's just he had a 9.9 yards per attempt because he got 60 yards on back-to-back throws on that last drive because
46:59the Rams blew two coverages in a row. So if the Rams don't blow those coverages, do they even get into the
47:06red zone with those controversial penalties in the first place?
47:09I'm not sure they do because of what he played like in the 50 minutes leading up to that moment.
47:15And I just, I don't have faith that he's going to keep up with Purdy right now.
47:21And I know Broncos fans would be like, well, he had two touchdown drives in the third quarter.
47:26Yeah, one of them they started at midfield and they ran the ball to the red zone.
47:31I'm giving credit to the offensive line. I'm giving credit to the run game, but it's not like Bo was the one
47:38that was carrying the team on his back there until those two throws against like literally broken coverages.
47:44You could look at it on tape. So I'm not, I'm not saying Bo Nix is a bad quarterback.
47:50That's not the point of this segment. What I'm saying is he can't play like a bad quarterback for 45 to 50
47:57minutes and try to keep up with the guy who might be the MVP frontrunner.
48:01Like you have to do that the entire game.
48:04You have to go blow for blow. You can't just let him stack touchdowns on you because eventually you're going to be
48:11down by 20 points and it's going to look like the Chiefs game from week one where you're just kind of waiting
48:18for it to happen and it never did and they just got blown out and embarrassed on national TV.
48:24So he has to play good from the first quarter on.
48:27He cannot save it for the fourth quarter. Not against an opponent like this one.
48:32Here's what has to happen. We have to continue to tread in the right way.
48:37All right? But I'm proud of every one of you.
48:40Jags-Bengals, last game that we're going to talk about here today and it's also a matchup of two great offenses, great quarterbacks
48:47and I'm specifically looking to see what Trevor Lawrence is going to be like in this game because through the first three
48:53weeks of the season, man, he's been excellent against zone.
48:57Every time that a team has played zone coverage against him, you talk about quarterbacks that are confident right now.
49:03Trevor Lawrence believes he can make any throw in the world and he's showcasing it especially in the red zone, man, when
49:10things are at a premium, when space is at a premium.
49:13I mean, he only seems to play better which a quarterback does that.
49:17It's pretty incredible. The Bengals, though, they play man coverage at a top eight rate in the NFL this season.
49:23So, is this game maybe going to be a little bit harder for Trevor Lawrence because if you go back to that
49:30week two game against the Broncos, it was the second half of that game when the Broncos switched more to man coverage in which Lawrence started to struggle.
49:39Now, it's still been good for him. 0.18 EPA per dropback against man, 0.25 EPA per dropback against zone.
49:45So, it's not like he has a negative EPA per play.
49:48He's still a great quarterback against man coverage. It's just looked a little bit different.
49:53Now, on the flip side, go back to last week, Aaron Rodgers tore this defense up.
49:58Aaron Rodgers versus the Bengals. Man coverage. 8 for 15, 149 passing yards, two touchdowns, 0.54.
50:03Or, EPA per dropback. And we highlighted this in the reaction show.
50:07Aaron Rodgers was able to hang onto the ball for a while and actually make a lot of these plays happen as well.
50:14So, what matters more here? The fact that Lawrence hasn't been as good against man coverage?
50:19Or is it the fact that, sure, the Bengals play it, but they've given up a lot of explosive plays this season and Aaron Rodgers carved them up?
50:28I'm not sure. And I think that's gonna go a long way into determining who has the most points when this one's all done.
50:35I'm looking for a bounce back game from Lawrence.
50:38The Clemson one. The other Clemson one. Dexter Lawrence.
50:41Sorry, I've been saving that for years for them to match up.
50:44It's about time to get it. No, that was good.
50:48I didn't know where you were going there, but that was good.
50:51He kind of got his ass kicked against Pittsburgh last week.
50:55I'm not gonna lie. How did he get his ass kicked or did they just have a good plan for him?
51:01First of all, I'm not convinced the lifting of the leg thing was legal, but it was genius.
51:07So bonus points for that. However, that's not even like really the play that I'm talking about.
51:12If you're looking at that big Jalen Warren run, like they scoop blocked Dexter Lawrence and just ran it right at him.
51:19This left side of the Steelers line did really well against Dexter Lawrence.
51:23And so I'm up a little bit not worried.
51:26I'm curious to see if he bounces back in this one because the left side of the Jags line is also pretty good, right?
51:33Emmanuel Pregnon has been a wall for them at left guard.
51:37Harrison, we know, is a really talented tackle. And then you got Nate Borkutcher, right?
51:41Rookie tight end who let's say his selection was controversial at the time.
51:46And we'll leave it at that. No, you can say it from yours truly.
51:50My face is the poster boy for me being skeptical of how early they went with this Nate Borkutcher selection.
51:56But hey, this is identifying the talent and recognizing where it could fit on your roster.
52:01And I even said afterwards, like, look, I think that they picked him way too early.
52:06I think that they could have got him later.
52:09I question the overall draft strategy with it. But how they're deploying him, what it means, and how it is making this
52:16run game and this trenches better for the Jags, it looks awesome early on.
52:20For them to already have these returns for him.
52:23However highly you wanted to draft him, you have to feel good about what he is doing early on because you are right.
52:30It's changing their power run game. It has changed, I guess, beyond power run game.
52:35It's changing the dynamics of what they want to do on the trenches in the blocking game entirely.
52:40And I think that that's been incredibly valuable for them early on this season.
52:45And, you know, when you put him next to Harrison and next to Pregnon, that left side, it just caves people in.
52:52This is actually kind of the matchup between two teams that love blocking tight ends the most.
52:57They're two of the top three teams in terms of 12 personnel usage in the league.
53:02Jags use it 31% of the time since he uses it 38.2% of the time.
53:07So blocking tight ends galore in this one. And Dexter Lawrence has to bounce back from last week because when they put
53:13him on that side, they are trusting him to really just make the math be in their favor against a talented left side of this Jags offense.
53:22He's got to do it. Here we go, everybody.
53:25It's time for our week four game picks here.
53:27Trevor and Brett once again, picking the 10 most interesting games, the games we are most compelled by in this week's slate
53:34and not only picking the winner but ranking them in terms of confidence.
53:38So if you've been following along for a while, you know the drill but if you're new here, what we do is
53:45we take these 10 games and we order them in confidence rankings.
53:49So the team that we have at the number 10 spot, that means that we are getting 10 points if we get
53:56that game right in the 9th spot. You get 9 points if you get it right.
54:018 spot, 8 and so on and so forth.
54:04We'll kind of preview these games as we go along and we've been keeping score all season long.
54:09Brett, would you like to know what your score was from week three and then also your season total here?
54:16How do you think you did? Dude, I think I got demolished.
54:19I'm not going to lie. I had a bad week three.
54:23I think everybody had a bad week three other than the people in the comments.
54:27They kind of smoked me. We'll talk about the people in the comments who we love that you guys are getting involved in this as well.
54:35We'll shout a couple of you out in a couple of minutes but you did lose your number 10 confidence game, your
54:42most confident game because you picked the Bengals over the Pittsburgh Steelers.
54:46But all in all, you got 33 points last week which brings your season total to 111.
54:51I don't know how I did but I do know that I picked the Buccaneers to win and they did not.
54:58So I know that we lost that one right off of the bat but give me the bad news.
55:04Tell me how it was. So you came into the week one point behind me in total.
55:09Yeah. You got 34 which means your season total is 111.
55:13We are dead even. You love that parody. You love that parody.
55:16I mean we're just simply matching what the NFL season is giving us right because we had the most one score games
55:23in a Sunday slate that we've had over the last 20 years this past week.
55:28So we're right on par with the 2026 NFL season.
55:31Okay. Tied up. Oh man. That just makes this game pick even better.
55:35Shout out to some of you guys who are getting in on the games as well.
55:40We absolutely love this. You guys are firing it off in the comments where you're taking the 10 games that we have
55:47you're ordering and you're picking them as well. Three people that we got a shout out right off the top of the show.
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58:42Iber Condrell, I think is how you say this, 46 points for their game picks last week.
58:48They only missed one game and the one game that they missed was the Bengals.
58:52They also took the Bengals over the Steelers. Kwasar, who we also shouted out last week, by the way, 45 points again last week as well.
59:01So they are on a roll. Tablet Brothers, 44 points.
59:04That was some of the highest scores of any of the entries that we had last week and by the way, these
59:10top three that we just named there, they were the only fans to pick three of the four upset winners.
59:17So the Steelers, the Colts, the Broncos and the Raiders, they at least had three out of four some combination of those four teams.
59:24So shout out to you guys and again, if you want to get in on the game here with us, do so in the comment section.
59:32Listen to the 10 games that we have here this week and give us your picks and in the confidence rankings so
59:39we can keep your scores as well as ours.
59:42I don't know why the NFL is paying us to do this.
59:46Let's just have them do it. Dude, don't say that out loud.
59:49Come on. Come on. Come on. The mortgage, brother.
59:52Roger. We should get Rogers out here as well.
59:55Now that you say it. Okay. The first game that I want to highlight, Jacksonville versus Cincinnati.
60:00It's a tough one, man. It's two teams that can light up a scoreboard but what are we thinking here?
60:07Who are you taking and where is it in your confidence rankings?
60:10So Trevor Lawrence is playing out of his mind so far this season so I am taking Jacksonville to win this game.
60:17I did put it at my three spot mainly because I can't figure out what Cincinnati is right now.
60:23If you take out the special teams errors would they have beat the Steelers last week?
60:28I think it's a strong possibility but the special teams are what the special teams are.
60:33If you're looking at special teams EPA per play they're second worst in the NFL so far this season.
60:39Giving up a lot of explosive plays through the air.
60:42Also you know the Steelers just kind of ran right at Dexter Lawrence last week.
60:47The left side of the Jags line is pretty good.
60:50I just don't feel good about the Bengals in this one which of course means they're going to win but I'm picking
60:57Jacksonville to take this one at my three spot.
61:00I'm also taking Jacksonville but because of the uncertainty of both of these offenses being able to light it up at any
61:06point in time this is only in the one spot for me so I'm going to take the Jags too but this
61:13is all the way down to the bottom of my list.
61:17An interesting point for this game is that Trevor Lawrence has been tearing it up specifically against zone coverage.
61:23He's been great against Mann as well but he's specifically been phenomenal at attacking zone coverages.
61:28Mann he's gotten a little bit more trouble with you know when you look at the second half of that Denver Broncos
61:35game he struggled and they switched to play a lot more man so it's just a different look.
61:40The Bengals play Mann coverage at a top 8 rate in the NFL so far this season so they could sort of
61:47lean into what Lawrence hasn't been as stellar at this season however Aaron Rodgers just absolutely lit up this Bengals defense last
61:54week playing a lot of that single high cover 1 cover 3 stuff so the tape is out there on how you
62:01beat it and I got a lot of faith in this coaching staff so I'm taking the Jags here in this one
62:08Dallas Cowboys coming back stateside to take on your Houston Texans what do we think about this one?
62:13So three weeks in a row I've picked the Texans and put it at the one spot I don't know how I
62:20can have any confidence in this team at this point so I'm going Dallas I'm putting at the four spot there's just
62:27so many problems with the Texans right now none of them are CJ Stroud by the way I do want to reiterate
62:34that he has had a nice year but they have had problems up front especially trying to run the ball that has
62:41cropped up popped up again this year you know defense it's just been very inconsistent more inconsistent than I expected from them
62:47so far this year like Will Anderson had a whale of a game and it still just didn't feel like it mattered
62:54that much because when they really needed this defense to step up you're giving up 20 yards Laquan Treadwell sets up a
63:01game winning field goal so I just don't have a lot of confidence in the Texans right now so I'm going Dallas
63:08who also has their own issues but less issues than Houston yeah without Neagle Collins and obviously no Jaden Higgins as well
63:15with his long term injury this team sort of struggled to I mean CJ Stroud said in the presser after the game
63:22he's like we weren't aggressive we didn't push the ball the way that we needed to they're bad in short yarded situations
63:29on the ground like you mentioned I mean those third and short fourth and short situations I mean this team is just
63:36not reliable right now with converting a lot of those things and so the easy stuff seems harder and the more difficult
63:42stuff just doesn't seem feasible with the current health of that roster right now so it's tough for me even with Houston's
63:49defense and all the potential it still has it's tough for me to think about this team outscoring a Cowboys offense that
63:56I think is just only getting better and we saw them really start to catch fire in Brazil last week I know
64:03they didn't win the game but certainly the offense did what they needed to do to have a chance to win it
64:10at the end score a touchdown and take care of it right there in regulation or kick the field goal and they
64:17thought they were going to head to overtime and obviously they didn't because of the defensive blunder there I'm also taking the
64:24Dallas Cowboys but I'm putting that at my five spot here so pretty close to where you have it at we've got
64:30the same team winning this game but I'm going to take that at the five spot what about the Denver Broncos and
64:37the San Francisco 49ers Niners just keep racking up injuries as it unfortunately feels like they always do and it continues to
64:44not matter this team is still executing at extremely high level and the Broncos where they can play very high level football
64:51at some points they can flip the switch very quickly and it can all not look great just such a high variance
64:58team right now so who are you taking in this win and where are you putting in the confidence ranking so I'm
65:05taking San Francisco to win this game injuries be damned alright is it weird that I put it at the 7 spot
65:12like I'm actually really confident in this because I just look at how Brock Purdy is playing I compare that to how
65:18Bo Nix is playing you're asking Bo Nix to keep up with who I believe is the MVP frontrunner right now in
65:25Brock Purdy can you go drive for drive with this offense this offense that has put up touchdown drives at a rate
65:32higher than every other team in every other season in the first three weeks of a year since at least 2000 it
65:39is absurd what they're doing right now it is historic what they're doing right now and Bo Nix God bless him for
65:46the fourth quarters that he's had quarters one through three still matter a lot and he's been objectively bad in quarters one
65:53through three and I feel like even with good fourth quarters the gap between these two quarterbacks is going to be so
66:00big that I don't think Denver is going to be able to overcome that so give me San Francisco at the seventh
66:06spot I'll be different than you here I'll take the Denver Broncos and it's super high variance like I said but the
66:13highs for this Denver team are really good you know again you talk about a team that was toe-to-toe with the Jags
66:20who I feel like are one of the better teams in the NFL and they even were able to adjust in the
66:27second half and best that team and I think there's a world where they could give Purdy some fits and I think
66:34that the Broncos play man coverage not only at a higher rate but I think they play coverage better than most teams
66:41that like to do it on a regular basis obviously having Patrick Shirtan really helps you in that regard but I also
66:48look at the player that Talanova Hufanga is and sort of we saw that this past week and how great that he
66:54was in sort of that rover role where he's over the middle of the field I mean Purdy loves to attack over
67:01the middle of the field and I think the Broncos are going to try to set up their defense to where they're
67:08giving Hufanga the ability to really close in on a lot of those in-breaking routes that over-the-middle stuff so I think a
67:15lot of the numbers so far would tell you to pick San Francisco so I certainly don't fault you for it but
67:22I think Denver's defense is uniquely built to frustrate Purdy more than these other teams have been able to to start the
67:29year so as long as Bo gives us the up we can have a little bit of the down but as long
67:36as he gives you the up I think they got a chance to win this game so I'll take the Denver Broncos
67:42here at my four spot for this one. The Seattle Seahawks and the Los Angeles Chargers.
67:47Thoughts? Opinions? Where are we going? If the Chargers win this game I'll be stunned.
67:52Me too because I have it at the 10 spot for Seattle winning.
67:56I put it at 9 with Seattle winning at the 9 which might surprise people that I have something even higher than
68:03that but is there anything, literally anything that the Chargers do better than Seattle at all?
68:08I don't think there is. No. No. I'm with you and you look at last week's game where Seattle loses and we
68:15talked about it in the review show how turnovers meant everything in that game right?
68:20They turn the ball over three times. Washington scores touchdowns on all three turnovers and they still only won that game by two points.
68:27Jack Smith and Jigba still goes off. Sam Darnold almost has 400 yards passing.
68:31I think that we saw in that game, okay, this is going to be a little bit different with us not having
68:38Kenneth Walker here if you're on the Seattle Seahawks side of things but it's so hard to watch the Chargers, especially on
68:45offense and how much Herbert has really struggled. It would, I think this goes without saying, it would have to be by
68:52far the best game of Justin Herbert's season for them to keep this close, let alone upset Seattle in this one.
68:59So I have the Seattle Seahawks at the 10 spot because where I think some teams, you know, might have viewed the
69:05Chargers at this point coming off of licking their wounds a little bit as like a trap game, maybe ease up on it a little bit.
69:14The Chargers aren't really what we thought they were going to be going in the season.
69:18A Mike McDonald team is not going to do that, especially coming off of a loss.
69:23So I got a lot of faith in them, obviously.
69:27I got that at the 10 spot. What about the Chiefs and the Raiders?
69:313-0 versus 3-0, by the way. So I went the Chiefs with this one.
69:35I put it at the 5 spot. Okay. Like dead in the middle because I wasn't 100% sure about it, but I feel pretty confident in it.
69:44That's why I put it in confidence rankings. You know, if there's one thing the Raiders have been good at the last
69:51season plus three weeks, it's been their run defense.
69:53And if there's one thing the Chiefs have really leaned on so far this season, it's been their rushing offense.
70:00Kenneth Walker's been amazing. If the Raiders have a good day just even remotely containing Kenneth Walker and, you know, forcing the
70:07Chiefs back into being that one dimensional pass heavy team that they were the last couple of years without really having a dynamic receiver to speak of.
70:15I don't think Rasheed Rice counts. Like I'm talking like down in the field receiver.
70:20Yeah. You know, if we get them into that one dimensional mode where it's explosives through yak or nothing, can the Chiefs still win this game?
70:28And I'm, I hesitate with it. So I put it at the five spot.
70:32I think it's more likely than not that Kansas City wins.
70:36but like, would it shock you if Vegas does?
70:38For me, not really. I have the Chiefs winning and I have this at the ninth spot.
70:44And I think, wow, okay, so it would shock you.
70:47Oh my God. It's, it's, it feels a little disrespectful to how the Raiders have started the year.
70:52But because I don't want to take credit away from how well the Raiders are playing.
70:57I just still view this as a little bit of a different tier.
71:01The Chiefs are top three in the NFL in total EPA per play and just, well, total EPA and I believe EPA per play as well.
71:09If not top three, I believe they're top five in both of those categories.
71:14The offense is just a well-oiled machine right now.
71:17You mentioned what Kenneth Walker has meant to this team, but it's more complimentary for the Chiefs than it ever has been.
71:24And I think that that really matters here and how they're probably going to put a lot of stress on young defenders
71:30for the Raiders who are playing well. I want to be clear, but again, I think that there's levels to this and
71:37where I think they're a lot closer to what Kansas City has been in years past, the way that Kansas City is
71:44currently operating, especially because when you look at Steve Spagnuolo, I think he's going to have something up his sleeve for how
71:51you slow down this Raiders offense, which has been methodical.
71:54And I think that Kirk's done a really great job.
71:57Brock Bowers has been awesome when he has been out there, especially last week when he was the focal point of that passing game.
72:05But you and I have talked about this like they might just use Legereus Sneed one-on-one against Brock Bowers.
72:11And like Brock will still get his, but I don't think it'll be as easy as it's been in weeks past.
72:17So I think it'll be a fun game. I really do.
72:21But I've just got so much faith in the Chiefs when it comes to how they have moved the ball, how they
72:27have scored points, how repeatable and how explosive it is both in the passing game and the ground game.
72:33I just think they're going to end up with more points in this game, even if it's a better football competition between
72:40the two than it has been in years past.
72:43So I'm taking the Chiefs here and I got them at the nine spot.
72:47Buffalo and New England. Where do you got this game?
72:51So this is my tenor. I put the Bills at 10 over New All right.
72:55All right. How can you watch Drake May this season and think they're going to win this game?
73:01I have zero confidence in this team. It's not really an indictment on their defense.
73:05It's not an indictment on their offensive line. Like Will Campbell has been playing like the best Patriots offensive player.
73:12Who saw that coming after the home stretch last year when he was playing banged up?
73:17But it's true. He has been playing really well.
73:20But this is a quarterback league, whether we like it or not.
73:23Yes, it's 22 on 22, 22. But nobody has a bigger effect on whether or not your team wins or loses in the quarterback.
73:31And Buffalo has a quarterback that not just raises their floor, but also raises their ceiling.
73:36The Patriots so far have had quarterback play that reduces both, makes their floor way lower.
73:41And I feel like their ceiling is capped at knee height this year so far.
73:45So I just, I don't as odd as it is to say compared to where we were a month ago looking at
73:52this team, I need to see it to believe it with the Patriots.
73:56This could very easily be a team that's like bottom 10 or worse.
74:00I have the Bills winning this game at the 8th spot here.
74:04So I also see it pretty highly the way that you do.
74:08And it goes a little bit back to what I talked about with the Chargers.
74:13If the Chargers win their game, if the Patriots win this game against the Bills, they will have looked, this will be
74:19by far the best they have ever looked this season.
74:22Like in so many facets of the game. And for Buffalo to be a team that just had five turnovers and lost
74:29the turnover differential by four and still won the football game.
74:33I mean, that just tells you how genuinely like powerful this team is and how there is no say die with the Buffalo Bills.
74:40For as much as they can shoot themselves in the foot, they still have the players to get out of it in any situation.
74:48And the way that the Patriots are playing, it's really hard to have faith that they're all of a sudden going to
74:55be the team that capitalizes on the Bills mistakes.
74:57Because last week was the week for the Bills to lose.
75:01You had five turnovers. You lost the turnover differential battle by four.
75:05Like that was, I'm not saying that the Bills are going to go undefeated.
75:09I don't know if they're going to go undefeated, but that's the game that you lose.
75:14So if you're the Patriots, what are you saying?
75:17Well, I mean, if we, if we, if we get six turnovers, then we got a shot, you know?
75:23So look, every game starts zero, zero. Every game is different, but I agree with you.
75:28It's, it's hard to watch what the Patriots have done and think that they're going to beat this Bills team.
75:34So I got that at the eight spot, Carolina and Detroit Sunday night football here.
75:39A little prime time in Carolina. First time, I think in over 10 years that the Carolina Panthers have been on Sunday night football.
75:46What do you think about this game? The only thing I know for sure is that Detroit's going to score 31 points
75:53because that's all they've done all season is just score 31 points.
75:57The question is, can Carolina get to 32 or higher?
76:00Maybe. Or higher. 32 or higher? Maybe. I, I can't, I can't figure out the Panthers because every time I feel like
76:07I do, a star player gets hurt and they just lost JC Horn with a torn quad.
76:12Right. Like Bryce has been really good, but you know, the Cleveland defense did clamp down in the red zone for four
76:19straight field goals from them, which ultimately, you know, keeping those sevens from becoming or keeping those threes from becoming sevens is
76:26why, you know, the Browns won that game. I still, I think I favored Detroit in this one ever so slightly, but
76:33it's more so because I really don't know what the Panthers are yet.
76:37I have a pretty good idea of what the, the, the lions are.
76:41They're a good offense with a shaky at best defense.
76:44So give me the lines to win this game.
76:47I put it at the one spot because I have no idea.
76:50Like I really have no idea who's going to win.
76:53It's I'm taking Carolina. I'm taking Carolina here. I'll take the Panthers and I'll put this in my three spot.
77:00I agree with you that I think the lions are going to score good amount of points.
77:05I think it's going to be above 25. Certainly.
77:08I don't know how high exactly it is. Maybe it is exactly 31.
77:12But this lions team is giving up the most passing yards per game of any team in the NFL through three weeks of the season.
77:20You look at what Geno Smith was able to do against his defense.
77:24He was 31 for 37 last week. 321 yards, three touchdowns, no interceptions, 129.8 quarterback rating and an 83.8 completion percentage.
77:30Is that all? Bryce has had much more good than bad this season.
77:34And in fact, we've talked about it. It's sometimes been the best that Bryce Young has looked.
77:40So, I'm going to have faith in Bryce to continue to look really well against one of, if not the worst pass defense in the NFL.
77:48And I think because of that, I wonder if Carolina, who you highlighted this in the season preview show, how Carolina all
77:55of last year liked to be that team that limited possessions.
77:58I wonder if there's a little bit of that as well.
78:01They're still averaging a very high, you know, like cushion coverage average when they're playing cover three and they're playing that off coverage.
78:09Do they keep things in front of them enough to slow down the game enough to where, hey, you capitalize on their
78:15mistakes a little bit and very clearly in the passing game, they're not really able to put a lot of pressure on
78:22you, or at least they haven't been this season.
78:25I just, I'll have my faith in Bryce Young in this game and how well he has played through the first three weeks of the season.
78:33I'll take Carolina. I got him at my three spot there.
78:37What about the Packers and the Buccaneers? What do you got within this game?
78:41I might regret this. I'm going with Tampa. Wow.
78:44I put it at my eighth spot. Oh, shoot.
78:47Wait, hold on. Hold on. You know Baker Mayfield's not playing, right?
78:50I realized that. Could it be worse? No. Sadly, no.
78:53It can't, it really can't get too much worse than how the offense has played through the first three weeks of the season.
79:01So they might get the backup quarterback bump with Jalen Daniels, especially from how Jalen Daniels played this preseason.
79:07You heard it at the eighth spot. I put it at the eighth spot.
79:11It's not really a reflection on Tampa. Like Tampa hasn't been good.
79:15Green Bay's been atrocious. Green Bay's been bad. They've been really bad.
79:18This might be the worst offensive line in football.
79:21This is the all horrendous vibes bowl. It's like, it's like this is a bad game.
79:26I can't think of a matchup where two combined fan bases are having less of a good time this season than the Packers facing the Buccaneers.
79:34Both fan bases are doing mock drafts. We're not in October yet.
79:38Like that's bad. Mocktober, you mean? Like I. Yeah, I partially put it at the eighth spot because I felt like if
79:45I knew you weren't going to pick Tampa, I'm assuming you didn't pick Tampa.
79:49Of course not. And I was like, if there's any game, if there's any game, especially like a just a gross game
79:56that I could build a little bit of a lead on you.
80:00I was like eight points on Tampa, maybe. But I don't feel good about it.
80:05I have Green Bay winning. I have it at a two spot.
80:08So if so if Tampa wins this game, you are going to leap me, I think, in the ranking.
80:14So we will see. You're right. I mean, Green Bay's offensive line is is bad and it doesn't feel like it's getting any better.
80:22But man, Tampa's been all over the place, especially on the offensive side of the ball.
80:27Maybe they do get that backup quarterback bump where you just you don't know what to expect and the kid comes out guns blazing.
80:34But we will see. We will see. You got it at the eighth spot.
80:39I got it at the two spot. I got Green Bay.
80:42You got Tampa. That's going to be interesting. Rams and the Eagles.
80:46Where's this in the rankings? So this was right above Kansas City in Vegas.
80:50I put it at the sixth spot because I wasn't sure either way.
80:54Like I was reasonably confident, but I wasn't like really, really confident in it.
80:58So I picked the Rams in this one. They have their own problems.
81:03Right. When you're when you're missing Miles Garrett, there is a difference in this pass rush.
81:08When you're missing Puka, there is a difference in this pass game.
81:11Matthew Stafford. I don't want to say he's been bad, but it hasn't looked like the MVP Stafford of last year.
81:18Basically, the only player who's really looked like himself is Devontae Adams.
81:22And he looks like 29 year old Devontae Adams, not 25 year old Devontae Adams.
81:26Right. The defense, it feels like it oscillates with each passing week.
81:30I still can't quite figure them out either. So the one reason why I felt good about putting it at the six
81:37is because for all the problems the Rams have, the Eagles problems are worse.
81:41Yeah. Right. Nine possessions last game and six of them were five plays or less.
81:46Like this offense can't do anything. And the defense, I've, I expect a lot more from their defensive line so far this season.
81:53I'll say that. So give me the Rams reasonably confident, not super confident at the six spot.
81:58I get the Rams winning and I have the seven spot.
82:02I just, man, it was, it was so out of sync what we saw with the Philadelphia Eagles on Monday night football.
82:09And the first half wasn't horrible, but the second half, man, it was just, it was, I think the furthest end of
82:16the spectrum from what we have seen with this Eagles offense, not just this year, but also in years past as well,
82:22where it's either they are, they are a well-oiled machine or it is nothing.
82:27And there is far too much of both of those realities that exist for me to have a lot of faith in
82:34what the Eagles are doing right now, especially up front along the offensive line.
82:38The quick cat passing game really got to them against the bears when case Keenum was getting the ball out of his hands really quick.
82:46I think the Rams are going to notice that and try to neutralize the Eagles defensive front in sort of the same ways.
82:53So give me the Rams in this one. I also think that the Rams are, man, very desperate team.
82:59I mean, they're starting, you, I'm not saying the season's anywhere close to over for them, but they're going to, they have
83:06a really rough last six or seven games of the season.
83:09They got to start stacking some wins together to be okay with, you know, bouncing around with wins and losses when they
83:16get into the late November and December. And I think this is one of those pivotal games for them.
83:22So I'll take the Rams. I got this a seven spot last game, the New Orleans saints and the Atlanta Falcons.
83:28Where's this game for you? It's like the polar opposite of Bucks Packers.
83:33As far as vibes, it's just fun. I think both fan bases are really excited for this.
83:38You know, we know the dome is going to be rocking.
83:41It's, it's 20 years, uh, 20 year anniversary of, you know, the Gleason play.
83:46Um, it's going to be an emotional night. It's going to be a super juiced up night, but income, the Falcons coming
83:52off a really excellent win over green Bay, where they just dominated them almost 500 net yards of offense, 240 on the ground.
84:00Bijon's looking amazing. He's also on the MVP ballot.
84:02If there was one right now, um, you know, the defense has been super aggressive.
84:07Michael Penix started off slow, you know, two and two, uh, two of seven in the first quarter finished darn near perfect in the last three quarters.
84:16I love this game. Like I really can't wait to watch this game as a like neutral observer as far as picking it.
84:23Darn near impossible because both of these teams are really explosive.
84:26They can put up points. I'm going Atlanta, but I put it at my two spot because I, I don't really have
84:33a good idea of who's going to win. All I know is this is going to be phenomenal television.
84:39Like I really, really cannot wait for this game.
84:42Uh, and I'm, I'm very happy to be a third party fan that doesn't have to agonize over it.
84:48Cause I know it's going to be close either way.
84:51A phenomenal television and NFC South matchups have not normally gone in the same sentence over the last couple of years, but here we are.
84:59I do think that this is going to be a fun matchup, whether that's like super explosive offense is fun or both
85:05teams not knowing how to win, but at the same time, and it's a close game to the very end kind of fun.
85:13Ultimately the Atlanta Falcons, uh, play man coverage at a top 10 rate in the NFL through the first three weeks of the season.
85:20Tyler Shuck is a top 10 passer, at least for passing yards versus man coverage this season.
85:25I think that that's when he feels very, very comfortable.
85:29And even though the Falcons want to play man coverage, I don't know if they have the full secondary to be able
85:35to be able to contain this saints passing attack.
85:38Give me new Orleans in this one. I'm going to take new Orleans at the six spot.
85:43I think that they bounce back and I think that they get a division win here.
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