Future 1st Podcast - Ep 59 - The Watch List (2026)
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1 hr 18 min
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Estimated from transcript
Sep 8, 2026
Published
Tue, September 8, 2026
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Player insights
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Players mentioned
Topics
George KittleJa'Marr ChaseKyler MurrayMike EvansAlvin KamaraBijan RobinsonBreece HallBrian Thomas Jr.Chase BrownChris BrooksChris GodwinChristian WatsonDrake LondonEmeka Egbuka
Player analysis
Player insights
Alvin Kamara
NegativeInjury21:41
Alvin Kamara is dealing with an MCL injury, contributing to the uncertainty surrounding several players heading into the season.
Insight pageBijan Robinson
NegativeProjection2:04
Despite the talent of Bijan Robinson, the source is terrified of the Falcons offense due to the presence of two bad left-handed quarterbacks.
Insight pageBreece Hall
NegativeInjury18:51
Breece Hall is dealing with a groin injury but is considered probable for Week 1, though the source notes the risk of re-aggravation.
Insight pageBrian Thomas Jr.
NegativeRole34:02
The source notes concerns regarding Brian Thomas Jr.'s usage as an outside receiver who may come off the field in two-receiver sets. While the source likes his long-term dynasty potential, his current role in the Jaguars' offense makes him less desirable in redraft leagues.
Insight pageChase Brown
PositiveProjection53:57
Despite a potentially slow start due to a tough early schedule, the source is high on Chase Brown's talent, citing Joe Burrow's praise of him as a complete back and receiver. He is considered a strong dynasty hold and a potential breakout candidate for the second half of the season.
Insight pageChris Brooks
NegativeDepth Chart13:07
The source views Chris Brooks as a non-factor in the Packers' backfield rotation.
Insight pageChris Godwin
PositiveUsage0:19
The source is consistently betting the over on Chris Godwin's receptions and receiving yards, citing him as a personal favorite.
Insight pageChristian Watson
NegativeValue27:57
The source highlights Christian Watson as a potential value play due to his high ceiling and an easy strength of schedule for the Packers in weeks one through four. While injury concerns persist, the source suggests he could be a 'sell high' candidate if he explodes early in the season.
Insight pageDrake London
NegativeProjection2:04
The source is wary of the Falcons' offensive potential, noting that Drake London's production is hindered by the team's poor quarterback situation.
Insight pageEmeka Egbuka
NegativeInjury21:32
Emeka Egbuka is dealing with a toe sprain, which the source notes is problematic for an explosive wide receiver as such injuries can linger. The source suggests that if he is not practicing by the start of the week, he should be benched for week one.
Insight pageGeorge Kittle
PositiveInjury19:09
Despite being questionable, George Kittle is expected to play in Week 1 after traveling with the team and preparing to practice.
Insight pageNegativeInjury41:54
The source expresses significant concern regarding George Kittle's durability and age (33-34), noting a history of multiple training camp injuries (hamstring, ankle, calf) and an Achilles tear 10 months ago, making it difficult to rely on him as a primary receiver.
Insight pageJ.K. Dobbins
NegativeUsage111:01
The source views J.K. Dobbins as the primary back in Denver but warns that his role is likely to be a timeshare rather than a true workhorse situation, especially given the team's history of rotating multiple running backs.
Insight pageJa'Marr Chase
NegativeInjury3:36
Jamar Chase is dealing with a knee hyperextension and missed practice all week, causing concern for his Week 1 availability as a first-round fantasy pick.
Insight pageNegativeInjury20:41
The source expresses concern regarding Ja'Marr Chase starting the season with a questionable tag, noting that while he may be practicing by the time of the broadcast, the uncertainty surrounding a cornerstone dynasty asset is worrying.
Insight pageJahmyr Gibbs
PositiveValue59:52
The source identifies Jahmyr Gibbs as a cornerstone player in their dynasty leagues and a primary target in redraft, provided he stays healthy.
Insight pageJayden Daniels
NegativeProjection106:50
The source expresses concern regarding Jayden Daniels' environment, specifically citing a poor offensive line and lack of elite skill-position weapons. While acknowledging his massive rushing upside, the source warns that his fantasy stock could trend down if the team struggles early, making him a risky but potentially high-reward gamble.
Insight pageJaylen Waddle
NegativeBust111:27
The source is skeptical of Jalen Waddle's current hype, suggesting he may fail to live up to expectations given the Broncos' difficult early-season schedule and uncertainty surrounding the team's play-calling and offensive efficiency.
Insight pageJaylen Warren
NegativeRole49:11
The source questions whether Jalen Warren is truly special enough to hold off Rico Dowdle, noting that Pittsburgh has an out on his contract after this season and that the backfield may devolve into a split or a takeover by Dowdle.
Insight pageJonah Coleman
NegativeUsage113:59
The source believes Jonah Coleman's fantasy outlook is poor due to Sean Payton's tendency to utilize a committee backfield. Even if J.K. Dobbins misses time, the source expects a timeshare involving RJ Harvey and Jaleel McLaughlin, limiting Coleman's path to a workhorse role.
Insight pageJosh Jacobs
NegativeRole5:22
Josh Jacobs is on the commissioner's exempt list, with the source speculating he will likely miss six games before returning to the Packers' lineup.
Insight pageKeaton Mitchell
NegativeInjury21:35
Keaton Mitchell has missed a full week of practice due to an undisclosed injury, leaving his status unclear heading into the season.
Insight pageKhalil Shakir
NegativeInjury21:41
Khalil Shakir is currently dealing with an undisclosed injury, with the source noting that teams are taking advantage of not having to report specific injury details until the regular season begins.
Insight pageKyle Pitts
NegativeProjection2:04
The source expresses concern regarding the Falcons' offensive outlook, specifically citing poor quarterback play as a limiting factor for Kyle Pitts.
Insight pageKyler Murray
PositiveBreakout60:54
The source suggests Kyler Murray could have a revitalized career under Kevin O'Connell, highlighting his elite rushing ability and potential to return to top-ten fantasy status if he stays healthy and focused.
Insight pagePositiveValue104:15
The source suggests Kyler Murray is a potential value target in superflex leagues, noting that his market perception is unfairly damaged by past inconsistency. If he starts the season strong, he could be a league-winning asset, and the source argues his price will not skyrocket, making him an accessible buy-low candidate.
Insight pageLuther Burden
NegativeInjury18:51
Luther Burden is listed as probable for Week 1 despite a groin injury, with the source noting the inherent risk of re-injury.
Insight pageMalik Nabers
MarShawn Lloyd
NegativeValue12:16
The source believes the window to trade Marshawn Lloyd is closing now that the Josh Jacobs situation is accelerating, and they are actively looking to move their shares.
Insight pageMarvin Harrison Jr.
NegativeProjection15:08
The source notes that Michael Wilson's extension doesn't immediately impact Marvin Harrison Jr.'s outlook, though it suggests the team is building a stable environment for a future rookie quarterback.
Insight pageMichael Wilson
PositiveRole14:57
Michael Wilson signed a three-year, $75 million extension, which the source views as a positive development for his dynasty value and the Cardinals' future offensive structure.
Insight pageMike Evans
PositiveInjury44:29
The source notes that Mike Evans has been dealing with frequent injuries during training camp, making him an unreliable fantasy option who may lose target share to emerging players like Dayjon Stribling.
Insight pageParker Washington
NegativeValue34:33
Parker Washington is noted as the most expensive piece of the Jaguars' passing game in redraft leagues, with his ADP rising into the fourth and fifth rounds.
Insight pagePuka Nacua
PositiveInjury18:51
Puka Nacua is probable for Week 1 after participating in full practice.
Insight pageRico Dowdle
PositiveValue48:53
Rico Dowdle is viewed as an underappreciated asset who has posted back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons. The source believes he could usurp Jalen Warren in the Pittsburgh backfield, noting his efficiency (4.6 YPC) and potential to become a starter as the season progresses.
Insight pageRome Odunze
PositiveValue34:02
The source prefers Rome Odunze over Brian Thomas Jr. in redraft formats, citing Odunze's proven production and the Bears' more consistent offensive situation. Odunze is viewed as a value pick at his current ADP.
Insight pageSam Darnold
PositiveProjection0:24
The source highlights Sam Darnold as a strong play for Week 1, noting he only needs one yard against New England to cash a PrizePicks entry.
Insight pageSam LaPorta
Tee Higgins
NegativeInjury19:32
Tee Higgins is dealing with a heel contusion and missed practice all week, leading to concern about his Week 1 status.
Insight pageTreVeyon Henderson
NegativeInjury21:45
TreVeyon Henderson is dealing with an ankle injury and has missed practice time. The source believes he will likely play behind Rhamondre Stevenson, making him a shaky RB2 option, and advises benching him for week one.
Insight pageTucker Kraft
PositiveInjury18:58
Tucker Kraft is probable for Week 1 after being a full participant in practice all week.
Insight pageTyler Warren
NegativeInjury18:51
Tyler Warren is probable for Week 1, though the source notes he is managing a groin injury.
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2:16Are y'all panicking about Jamar Chase, your first round pick, not playing week one?
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2:24This is Future First podcast where we help you win today with the Future First mindset.
2:29I'm your co-host, J-Mac. Here with my co-host, Jose.
2:31Happy Labor Day, Jose. Happy Labor Day to all the future First gang out there.
2:36Hopefully you're not catching this rainy season that we're getting here in California.
2:40But it also feels like Florida because it's like it rained and then now it's going to be 90 degrees.
2:46It's a little bit crazy weather, man. But hopefully y'all will enjoy your labor day when you are listening to us tomorrow as we record this on Sunday.
2:55But yeah, happy labor day to you, J-Mac. Bro, a rain for you guys?
2:59Yeah, a lot. A decent amount. Bro, it's like mid-80s up here.
3:03Super nice, man. I'm sad to hear that for you, man.
3:06It was all good over here. We got blue skies, mild weather.
3:10But hey, man, let's just jump right into it.
3:13Let's get into this quick hit and talk about all these injuries and all the other news going on.
3:19You ready? Yeah, let's do it. All right, the quick hit.
3:22Bro, I think before we get into all the injury updates, we got to talk about Josh Jacobs, man.
3:28We dropped our last episode on Sunday, but we had recorded it.
3:32Sorry, Monday last week, but we recorded it on the Thursday prior.
3:35So we were kind of way far behind on it.
3:38We didn't even know the last time we released that he was going on the commissioner's exemplist.
3:44At that point, we were speculating that there was going to be a suspension and what it was going to mean.
3:50Because at that point, we just knew that the team was preparing to play without Josh Jacobs.
3:55Well, I mean, that's going on. Obviously, he's on the commissioner's exemplist now.
3:59There's been other news. Caleb Johnson got traded to the Packers.
4:03So now we have a new fighter in the mix.
4:06On top of that, Josh Jacobs recently just got his court date moved up from November to days before week one game
4:13or right around their week one game. Whatever that means, there's a lot of speculation going on about that, man.
4:19So just put it on out there, man. What are your thoughts on this whole situation and on Josh Jacobs here?
4:25Yeah, I mean, maybe I should become a Twitter legal expert or something.
4:29But I don't know. To me, it was feeling more and more like they were getting ready for the levy to break.
4:36Like maybe they thought somebody had gotten a hold of the video.
4:40It definitely seems like the NFL has seen it or has seen something about it.
4:45You know, the GM came out and said, hey, I haven't seen it.
4:49You know, baloney, somebody has seen it. They know.
4:51They're not making the moves they're making. The coach was talking about Jacobs being suspended weeks ago.
4:57So they've kind of known it feels like this has been in the works.
5:01It's something they've known about. You know, like not to speculate on what the video could look like.
5:07I mean, some people are getting out there, you know, duped with the Ray Rice video.
5:12It doesn't seem like from the reports of what happened, it's that bad.
5:16I was discussing it with somebody and it's like, you know, not to make light of any domestic violence ever.
5:22But in terms of what was described that happened, it's like some people are saying, you know, if it comes out, it could be career ending.
5:30I find that hard to believe just because of what was described that happened.
5:34I guess if he left her unconscious on the floor and like the optics of it all, you know, could be really bad.
5:41But my view is that he's just going to be gone for the first six games.
5:46I think that's where we're headed. He's definitely missing week one.
5:50I think with this moving up of the court date is just I think he just wants to get out of the way.
5:57I think he knows that he can either plea down or take the two misdemeanors.
6:01They're not felonies. Maybe before the video comes out, maybe he can get the NFL to, you know, get the court.
6:08The what's it called? The like a verdict. Right.
6:11And then just get the NFL. Hey, look, this I've been accused of this.
6:15This is what happened. I either pleaded to this or this is what I was charged with.
6:20I'm not going to jail. I'm doing X, Y, Z.
6:23Like, give me my suspension and let's let's get rolling.
6:26Right. Like it feels like the complete opposite of what the Ezekiel Elliott situation was.
6:31If you remember that back in the day where the Cowboys went back and forth, he missed like a game or two.
6:38And then they appealed and then back and forth.
6:41And then finally, he ended up being suspended towards the later half of the season.
6:45I think for the 14, sorry, the Packers and Josh Jacobs, they're probably looking at it.
6:50Let's just get this out of the way. Let's move on through.
6:54Maybe they're not predicting a full season of suspensions.
6:57They're probably looking at the domestic violence, you know, contracted conduct detrimental to the league six games.
7:02And they're like, let's let's roll without Jacobs for six, the early six games and then have him for the later season push.
7:09That's just how it feels to me. That's like reading the tea leaves.
7:13That's all I'm gathering from with that. Like the moves all say to me, like, that's the direction they want to head.
7:20Now, the NFL doesn't have to play that ball.
7:23They can wait. They can drag it out as long as they want.
7:27He could be on the exempt list the entire year.
7:30And, you know, I just don't foresee that happening, at least in terms of like the gravity of the things that he is going to court for.
7:38So that's where I'm on. Like I'm on the fence set of like within week one or two, we'll know.
7:44And then he'll get the suspension of six games.
7:47He's served two. So week seven, he's back playing for the Packers.
7:51Yeah, man, I'm kind of with you on those thoughts, or at least I had been with it, like thinking that the
7:58commissioner, and the NFL had seen the video and that's why they put him on the exempt list.
8:03But I'm kind of starting to back off that a little bit, that that assumption might be wrong.
8:09And I think they might have put him on the exempt list just because they knew there was video evidence of it happening.
8:16And they didn't want that video evidence to get leaked.
8:19And they wanted to get ahead of it and say that they were being proactive rather than reactive to the situation.
8:26So they just put him on the commissioner's exempt list, which would make a lot of sense then why Josh Jacobs would want that court date moved up.
8:34Because if he's going to only get a six-game suspension for this, why should he have to wait for his court date
8:41in November where he can't play at all for any of those games?
8:45He'd miss like 10 weeks if he waited to November for that court date to come through.
8:50Only for the six-game suspension to go through and he would be retroactive, he would essentially miss 10 games.
8:56So I think that's why like it feels weird, man.
8:59It does feel like we're kind of like taking puzzle pieces and kind of putting it together here with all the clues that we have.
9:07But that kind of seems like a likely story.
9:10Like that could actually happen. And maybe nobody actually has seen the video outside of the police department and, you know, the parties involved in the court case.
9:18So I don't know. I think we're saying, I think the ending of like what we both think is the same, like
9:25whether they've seen it or not, that or they wanted to kind of box Jacobs in where he was just like kind
9:32of maybe going to try to do the Zeke or some of the things, you know, other players have done, which is
9:39like drag it out and be like, well, we'll see what happens in court.
9:43And then they're like, well, here's the exemplist. What are you going to do now?
9:48Like you want to wait until November? Like let's, you know, so it feels like definitely the NFL, I don't think wanted
9:55to get caught with their pants down Ray Rice situation again, not at all.
9:59So they were just like, hey, we've heard there's a video whether they saw it or not.
10:04Let's let's make sure we don't, you know, week two comes around.
10:08Jacobs is on the field and all of a sudden this video drops on the timeline and we're back in the same situation.
10:15So either way, I think it does mean it's there should be a quicker resolution, right?
10:20Like for Jacobs, if he's not ready to plea or he's not ready to take a deal, it doesn't really that makes
10:27sense for him to get put like, you know.
10:30So either way, like you said, we're putting puzzle pieces together.
10:33But I do think we'll get a resolution here within a couple of weeks.
10:37Now, for you, are you doing anything with this?
10:40Did this change your mind for me personally? Yeah, for me personally.
10:44I mean, and you saw it, it put me to work in rebuilding leagues.
10:48I'm trying to acquire Jacobs on the cheap and flip them in six weeks for even if it's not a huge gain,
10:55if I can take a second or third worth of value or even like a minute, like a first and then flip it into something else.
11:03Another young player, you like flip them back into a contenders team or if somebody is really worried that he's going to miss the whole year.
11:11That's kind of my my M.O. that I've been trying to do.
11:15It could backfire, but I'm also not spending tons of capital to do that.
11:19But do you feel the same way? In Dynasty, I'm less likely to want to move on to that.
11:25But I have been making more moves to try and get him into redraft.
11:29Like I drafted him yesterday in like the eighth round where, you know, he was like one of my first bench pieces.
11:36And I was like, this is this is an upside play at this point.
11:40Because honestly, I think we're all assuming a six week suspension.
11:44It could be less than that. Right. I mean, with this six week timeline is coming off of felonies and domestic violence
11:51cases or charges, which it's neither of those things.
11:53Right. I mean, we have aggravated assault and it's a misdemeanor.
11:57So like to me, like this this could play really favorable to Josh Jacobs, where how many times do we overreact saying like his career is done?
12:05And then like a month later, we're like, what were we doing?
12:09You know, like it really does kind of feel like that's going on here.
12:13But let's talk about the other half of this.
12:16Right. Which is the rest of the backfield with Marshawn Lloyd, Chris Brooks and Caleb Johnson, which is kind of where I've
12:23been trying to make my moves in Dynasty. Is I've been trying to move my Marshawn Lloyd shares.
12:28I think up until this point, I was kind of just waiting and seeing and I wasn't really shopping Lloyd, but I
12:35was open to hearing offers for him. I didn't really ever get any great ones.
12:40I have a ton of Lloyd, by the way, it's like 25 percent or something.
12:44But now that this like you said, this kind of timeline is accelerated.
12:49The window is closing for Marshawn Lloyd, right? Like it's now or never to kind of get a moved.
12:54So, yeah. And then like Caleb Johnson, I have no hope for Caleb Johnson.
12:59If someone wants to, you know, buy in on Caleb Johnson and give me something valuable for him, then I'm fine punting him off the bridge Baxter style.
13:07But other than that, man, like Chris Brooks is kind of a nothing burger for me.
13:12And I don't know how you see the rest of the backfield.
13:16Yeah, I mean, I think. Caleb Johnson is like a decent I think he would be the guy like it seems like
13:23he was taking the first team reps. Like I think they would like him more.
13:27He I think fits that that build of what they're trying to do more on their center than Marshawn Lloyd does.
13:34But, you know, who knows? Maybe it'd be none of them if Jacobs returned and then got hurt.
13:40I mean, Jacobs has been hurt in the past.
13:42So I think he's a decent handcuff to just hang on to.
13:46If you can sell him for anything like we talked about on the previous episode, I think definitely that now is the time.
13:53If you burn the first round pick, you got to just like delete that from your mind and just be like some value return is better than nothing.
14:02But otherwise, yeah, I don't think, you know, you have much more time to do anything with these pieces if you want to do something.
14:10Yeah, the window is closing, like we're saying. And I don't know, I guess the thing with Marshawn Lloyd I was holding
14:16on to at least is like the camp buzz on him was great.
14:20He looked good. He's been playing well. He looks explosive.
14:23There's just been a lot of, you know, dynasty community buzz about him, like doubt in him and him not having more
14:30than 130 carries since like high school and never putting it on film.
14:34It's like, dude, that's true with a lot of guys that come in and kind of do it unproven.
14:40Like this is a highly respected running back coming out of that class.
14:44So I don't know. I don't this situation feels impossible to really sniff out.
14:49I think the winners are the people who traded Marshawn Lloyd for Josh Jacobs a week ago.
14:54Yeah, 100 percent. All right. We had another big headline.
14:57Michael Wilson signed a three year deal for 75 million extension with 45 million guaranteed.
15:02How are you reading that, man? Yeah, I mean, I think he's good for the organization and they like him.
15:08So it doesn't to me necessarily do much to Marvin Harrison Jr.
15:11Like off the rip. We'll see on the field how that works.
15:15I think the Cardinals are preparing like the future for the future coming forward with, you know, a rookie quarterback and they
15:22want to have some of these pieces nailed down.
15:25They got Jeremiah Love. They have Marvin Harrison Jr.
15:28Under contract. I think it's after this year, two more years if they get his fifth year option.
15:33Now you have Michael Wilson. So they're seeming like they're trying to put the obviously they have McBride, who's one of the
15:40highest pilotarians ever or whatever the situation is. So look, they're looking like they're trying to kind of put pieces together to,
15:47you know, maybe like Caleb Williams style, like come in and you have a set offense.
15:52And now you're just hoping you draft the right quarterback to put in that situation, not throw him into like a Bryce
15:58Young where you have no running back. You're on the wide receiver.
16:02You have nothing. You're like just expected to somehow be the entire offense as a rookie.
16:07So it does seem like they're setting that up.
16:10I think if you get an elite player that can take advantage of a McBride, Wilson and Marvin Harrison Jr.
16:16Like there's nothing to fear there. There should be enough there.
16:20We see it with other offenses. It's just too hard to project into the future.
16:24It definitely tells me that, you know, they might not be super sold on Marvin Harrison Jr.
16:29For sure for the future. Right. Because if you do that, Michael Wilson isn't like some sort of that special player that
16:36you need to lock down right now. But, you know, they definitely want to make sure they're, you know, crossing their T's
16:43and dotting their I's, I think, for the future.
16:46And that's how I read into it. Yeah, they're the next, you know, Caleb Williams situation where this is the best situation a rookie quarterback's ever walked into.
16:54Right. I mean, that really feels like what's happening here.
16:58And we had week one of college football happen this weekend.
17:01And there was a lot of great quarterback play, which is what the 2027 class that and the wide receivers have lived up to thus far.
17:09Week one. Obviously, let's not overreact. But it's looking promising already for these quarterbacks to come in.
17:14And, you know, Arch had a really good weekend.
17:17And then you had Dante Moore with Oregon who had a stellar game.
17:21So, hey, man, like you said, like really just setting it up, setting the stage for a rookie quarterback to come in and make the difference.
17:29They even got to maybe do they have their head coach of the future too, right?
17:34The LeFleur of the, you know, the McVay tree.
17:37Like, dude, the Cardinals could be good as soon as next year.
17:41Yeah, I think, you know, obviously it's all kind of dependent on how does this year.
17:46I mean, I'm guessing they're hoping it doesn't go too well in terms of the amount of games they win with Brissette.
17:52But, you know, it's always kind of hard to trust an organization like the Cardinals to do it right.
17:58Right. Like we've seen it with the Jets, the Cardinals, et cetera.
18:02These teams, like they just continuously kind of seem like they're on the upswing and then end up shooting themselves in the foot.
18:09You know, like the Josh Rosen draft. Like, you know, we know the plethora of mistakes that they've made.
18:15So it definitely will be interesting. I mean, I think for Michael Wilson, if you had him in Dynasty or you acquired
18:22him after last season, you feel very good, right?
18:24Like this is a very positive thing for you, like if you were a believer in him.
18:30So all around, I think pretty positive news for everybody involved.
18:33Yeah, man. He was on waivers like this time last year in a lot of leagues, which is crazy.
18:39All right. Let's transition into the injury updates because there's a lot of them going around here.
18:44None of them that are too serious here. We got some probable for week one players, which are Brie Saul, Luther Burden,
18:51Tyler Warren, Sam Laporta, Puka Nakua, who fully practiced.
18:54Then we have Tucker Craft, who was a full participant all week as well.
18:58So those guys got upgraded to probable for week one.
19:01Questionable are still Ashton Gentry, Jeremiah Love, Malik Neighbors, Mike Evans, and George Kittle.
19:06Although George Kittle is looking like he's going to play.
19:09He traveled with them to Australia and he's looking to practice on Monday.
19:13So that would be today if you're listening to it when this came out.
19:17Alec Pierce practiced for the first time Thursday. Jonathan Brooks and Chuba Hubbard are still questionable.
19:22Kyle Monongai. And then Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins were do not practices all week, which we heard on Monday that they
19:29were going to be limited, but they weren't limited.
19:32They just didn't practice. Jamar Chase hyperstended his knee on that one play when he came down on it.
19:38I think this was two weeks ago now. Tee Higgins has a heel contusion or something going on.
19:43You never know with Tee, man. He's got bad meat.
19:46So how are you reading that situation, man, with these Bengals here?
19:50Yeah, I mean, it's definitely not what you want to hear, right?
19:54Like these prominent, especially Jamar Chase, who's the first wide receiver off the board sometimes at like 103, right?
19:59Or if somebody gets crazy, 102 in front of one of the running backs.
20:04You hope that it's going to be resolved. Sadly, we don't.
20:07When we're recording, we don't know if they practice.
20:10Maybe Monday comes out and they practice fully and, you know, it's all not to worry.
20:15But going into the first week of the season, this is not the type of thing you want to hear, especially a knee.
20:22At least it's not a soft tissue injury that you're worrying about.
20:26Like some of the guys you mentioned earlier, Hall, Reese Hall, Luther, Bird, and Tyler Warren.
20:31Those are groins. So that although they're probable to play, it's always the risk of like, you know, you pull up, you
20:38know, three plays in and they're, you know, re-injuring or re-aggravating that.
20:41So that's a little bit scary. But yeah, I mean, it's definitely a worrying thing to start the season that way, right?
20:48You never want to start with a questionable tag on your first round pick when you're, you know, first starting the season
20:55or, you know, the cornerstone of your dynasty like Jamar Chase is.
20:59Yeah, I'm lightweight concerned. And I mean, I would have felt better if you were limited this week, but just maybe they're playing it safe, right?
21:07I mean, we're one week out from the NFL season kickoff, right?
21:10So maybe that was their mind frame going forward.
21:13And like you said, like by the time people are listening to this, Jamar Chase is fully practicing.
21:19That would be amazing for both of us who have some Jamar Chase shares that we're kind of banking on here.
21:25But yeah, nonetheless, there's still some more here. We are a little bit unclear on these next guys, which are Emeka Agbuka
21:32with a toe sprain, Jalen McMillan on the same team.
21:35Keaton Mitchell hasn't practiced in a whole week now.
21:38He has an undisclosed injury. Wheels up for Amari Hampton.
21:41Khalil Shakir undisclosed. Alvin Kamara with his MCL. And then Travion Henderson pulled up on the injury report this week with an
21:48ankle and has yet to practice even as soon as today.
21:51I was reading there was reports he still wasn't on the field today.
21:55So that's a little bit concerning, you know, getting an injury that late into the preseason going into season next week, man.
22:02Are you worried about any of those guys here?
22:05Yeah. I mean, I think Agbuka and Hendo are probably the biggest ones.
22:09I mean, Hendo was already going to be competing with Ramondre, who clearly the coaching staff likes.
22:14He was clearly going to be playing behind him and just getting hurt.
22:18And now starting the season that way, it kind of just lends itself to Ramondre.
22:23Resolidifying himself. Any doubts of being the number one guy there?
22:26And just, you know, if you're counting on Hendo as like, you know, even a very solid RB2, I think that's going to be shaky.
22:34You're going to hope for those big plays from him.
22:37I just don't know if he's going to get the touches.
22:40And then with Agbuka, like turf toe, no turf toe, sprain toe, you know, big toe, little toe, like whatever.
22:47It's not good, right? Like you as an explosive wide receiver, you need that.
22:51And whether it's a sprain toe or turf toe, like those things can linger.
22:55They can be problematic. Some of these other guys on this close, like Keaton Mitchell and Khalil Shakir.
23:01I mean, I guess the teams are kind of just taking advantage that they don't technically have to report anything like solid, right?
23:08Like they don't have to report on an injury report.
23:11So this coming week, starting Monday, we'll actually get, you know, fully, I think some of the information on these guys of
23:18what's exactly going on, including Agbuka and Hendo. I think for those guys, you're really hoping they start the week off for
23:25if to have them week one and limited practice.
23:27Like if they're starting DMP right away, I'm probably just already making provisions that they're not going to be in my lineup.
23:34For Henderson, I'm probably even trying to bench him if I can just for the week one, no matter what.
23:40Even if he's suiting up with an ankle and running behind Ramondre, like I'm okay with week one, him kind of popping
23:47off and being on the bench and, you know, waiting for week two.
23:51Yeah, man. I mean, Emeka Ibuka pulling the Dr.
23:54Seuss on us here. Big toe, little toe, spring toe, turf toe.
23:58Exactly. Yeah. I love it, man. All right. Well, let's get into our episode here.
24:02We're going to be talking about the watch list.
24:05So guys that we want to look at going into the season, we have interest in them in one way or another.
24:12So we're going to break that down and get into quite a few guys and maybe not just guys, maybe some situations
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27:11You're welcome. All right. Welcome in to the watch list.
27:14Jose's got his binoculars out. We are on the hunt.
27:17The watch list sounds like something that's not good, right?
27:20I mean, like... A very negative connotation. Yes. As soon as you said it earlier, I was like, man, maybe this is the...
27:27Whatever. We'll roll with it. We're going. It's positive or negative.
27:31We'll, you know... Yeah, man. These are the guys we want to watch, right?
27:35We're just making a list. Not because we need to watch them.
27:39They haven't done anything wrong. Yeah. It's a watch list.
27:42I mean, Santa Claus is always watching. So we're just in the positive way.
27:46That's right. Watching these guys. Are they going to be naughty or nice to us this NFL season?
27:52Hopefully nice for most of them. I'm going to kick it off here with my first one, man.
27:57And it's Christian Watson. There's been a lot of buzz for Christian Watson coming off of last season where he closed out.
28:04Had an amazing run on the season here where he looked really good.
28:08He finally got healthy. He wasn't dealing with the soft tissue issues that he had going.
28:13And prior, he was doing... What was the injury that he did have going on?
28:18I think it was a foot or something. But just that hot start or hot finish that he had on the year
28:24has caused a lot of buzz for him to play this year.
28:28If he can play a full healthy year, we know the explosiveness he plays with.
28:33We know the ceiling that he can get to.
28:36We saw his rookie year playing with Aaron Rodgers where he scored like seven touchdowns over like four games or something crazy like that.
28:43Obviously, he's not playing with Aaron Rodgers anymore. He's got Jordan Love.
28:47But they got the offense to kind of go with him here.
28:50And yeah, I'm looking at his stats now. For last year on 55 targets, which was good enough for almost a 20% target share.
28:58He finished off with 35 receptions for 611 yards and six receiving touchdowns.
29:02There's a lot of hope for him out there.
29:05But yet, for some reason, his stock just still hasn't really taken off yet.
29:09So that means that there's people out there still doubting Christian Watson, right?
29:13They've been burned once. They've probably been burned more than once on Christian Watson.
29:17But here's why I'm interested in Christian Watson, right?
29:20Because like I said, we do know the ceiling here.
29:23But they have the third easiest strength of schedule from weeks one through four.
29:27They're playing the Vikings, the Jets, the Falcons, and the Bucs.
29:31We're assuming there's going to be no Josh Jacobs, right?
29:34Which, if Marshawn Lloyd and Caleb Johnson can't step up, or Chris Brooks for that matter, can't step up to fill in
29:41that role, there's probably going to be a heavier emphasis on the passing game here.
29:45And if they have an easier strength of schedule, which I think the Vikings is actually a pretty rough schedule or a matchup for them.
29:53They have a really good secondary. But the Bucs and the Falcons and the Jets, I think, can be beaten.
29:59I think that they could get off to a hot start here.
30:03And Christian Watson's value could really spike, especially because that hopium has been building in this offseason here, right?
30:09Whenever you have this controversial value in a player where some people are buying in and some people aren't, as soon as
30:16it's being seen, that realization of that value finally comes to fruition.
30:19And it just spikes and goes through the roof.
30:22So I'm kind of really interested to see what happens in these first four weeks here with Christian Watson and to see
30:29if that can really take off and that value can kind of hit the ceiling that a lot of people have kind of been projecting this year.
30:37Yeah, I mean, definitely in redrafts, I see him going pretty high.
30:41I'm never able to really get my hands on any Christian Watson shares this season.
30:46Just I think he's going higher than a little bit than I want to.
30:50And two weeks in, then you're like, oh, Christian Watson's down.
30:54He's going to be out for five weeks. That would be the least unsurprising thing to happen.
30:59I don't somewhat understand where the injury concerns were just waving them away.
31:03He didn't play fully healthy last season. He's never played more than 15 games.
31:07Like this is not a player that you can rely on.
31:11I understand that the talent is there. That's always the thing with him.
31:15But availability is a big factor. I think if he's on your watch list in this manner or like if he were
31:21to be on mine, it would be for a potential sell high or tear up like in a redraft.
31:27If I can take Watson, oh, man, two 25 plus point games, kind of like the Ibuka of last year.
31:33And I can go get me an injured player.
31:36Maybe Malik neighbors that's starting slow or just a player I believe in more.
31:41I'm doing it. Same in Dynasty. If I can take Christian Watson and just, you know, get the headache of will he get hurt?
31:48Will he not? I also don't think Christian Watson is that level of a talent where he's going to put up a top seven wide receiver season.
31:56You're going to be like, wow, my God, I can't believe I traded him away.
32:01Right. Like I find that very hard to believe.
32:04So in that situation, like how high can you tear up?
32:07How well? Like obviously we have to see the first four weeks.
32:11How much does he light it up? But if he really explodes and comes out of the gate, maybe like a 40 point game, like something like that.
32:20Obviously, you know, people get sharper and sharper. They don't fall for those things.
32:24But there's always somebody in the league that does.
32:27Right. You play in experienced leagues and somebody does end up falling for it or, you know, going for that, you know, sort of bait.
32:34So that's how I would have him on my watch list.
32:38I definitely don't disagree. Like if he can stay healthy, I think you're looking at a big value increase for where he has been.
32:45Honestly, that I'm along the same lines with you here.
32:48That's kind of why I put him on here.
32:51Right. It's because as soon as that value gets realized, it feels like the right time to sell.
32:57Like you said, like I don't necessarily see him as that elite asset.
33:01But if you can use him to kind of tier up into one of those elite assets, that feels like the perfect
33:07stepping stone and the perfect use of Christian Watson in that kind of scenario there.
33:12So why don't we flip the scripts here, man, and go ahead and give us your first player on the watch list.
33:19Who you got your binoculars out for? Yeah, I mean, it's actually a couple of players.
33:24And these are actually two teams that a lot of my takes and what I'm going to talk about today are kind
33:31of centered around because it just feels like I've been in drafts, right?
33:35This biggest draft weekend of the season. And I've just been facing this sort of decision nonstop, which has made me kind
33:42of realize like, huh, like I don't really I'm not even sure.
33:45I mean, I'm on the draft. I'm on the clock.
33:48Who do I like? Because I like both of these guys.
33:52But who do I like more and what where do their careers go?
33:56Right. For redraft, it's not as a big of a decision, but it's Roma Dunze and Brian Thomas Jr.
34:02Right. Two guys who I think we have a lot of questions about for Brian Thomas Jr.
34:07I think we saw a more extended. Season of productivity and elite level from Roma Dunze.
34:12We got a smaller sample size, but his bad, you know, time in the league wasn't nearly as bad as Brian Thomas Jr.'s last year.
34:20So I think it's two guys that are very young, should and have the talent to be elite in dynasty rankings.
34:26But they have kind of fallen by the wayside, especially on their teams.
34:30It seems like most people are kind of leaning Parker Washington.
34:33Most people are leaning Luther Burden or Colston Loveland in terms of the Chicago.
34:38So I'm just really interested to have these guys on the watch list, not just on the short term, but in the long term of the whole season.
34:46And how does it play out? Like, does it work out for any either of them or do both of them kind
34:53of turn into a guy that you're like, all right, we need Rome and Brian Thomas Jr.
34:59on different teams. They need to go be alpha somewhere else.
35:02They need to go be, you know, a top wide receiver.
35:05One, they can be, but they need to just leave.
35:08They need to escape the situation because it doesn't seem like in the offenses that they are, they want to use them that way.
35:16And so those are two guys that are just I'm very interested to see because I've been in on both.
35:22And now I'm not sure which one I like more.
35:25And if either of them are really going to be able to break through their current situation and where they're valued at.
35:32But yeah, man, the funny thing here is the Jacksonville Jaguars as a whole.
35:36I said that really well. The Jacksonville Jaguars like I was German.
35:40Oh, man. The BGJ. No, they're all so cheap, right?
35:43For how much hype they've been producing. They're all like ridiculously priced like Parker Washington.
35:48Is like sneaking up into like fourth and fifth rounds of drafts now, at least in redraft.
35:53But he's the most expensive piece like Basial Tootin's going far behind him, at least in single QB leagues.
35:59Trevor Lawrence is probably like QB 10 or 11, maybe even more than that.
36:03BTJ is going in like the seventh round. Jacoby Myers might as well be the last pick on the board.
36:09Like there's not a lot of, you know, people buying in with their money on this situation as much as the hype
36:16has kind of been there for these guys. There hasn't been a lot going there.
36:21But it feels like the exact opposite for the Bears here, right?
36:25Roma Dunze is an afterthought. He's like the last piece drafted out of all these guys.
36:29Colston Loveland is the first off the board going in probably like the third or fourth round.
36:35You can get Luther Burden now in like fifth and sixth rounds a lot of times because of the injury, his groin injury.
36:42People have been scared off. The price cooled and kind of fell because of that, which feels like a steal.
36:48And then Odunze goes in, what, like the seventh, eighth rounds now of those drafts, man.
36:53Odunze is the clear click here for me over Brian Thomas Jr.
36:57If I had the choice between them. We've seen Odunze do it as soon as last year.
37:02And it was really kind of an injury that kind of stopped that momentum for him.
37:07And we've seen the Bears be good more consistently for a longer period of time than we have the Jacksonville Jaguars, right?
37:14I'm more willing to buy in on the Bears and that situation than I am the Jaguars and that situation.
37:20Especially with Odunze hasn't had a ton of negative hype here.
37:23It's really just been his foot injury at the beginning of the season.
37:27And that hasn't really come back around where people are like, oh, we discounted him.
37:32But now that's not really a concern for ours anymore.
37:35Now we're buying back into him. He's just been kind of left out on that discount.
37:40Whereas the Jacksonville Jaguars, BTJ has had kind of that negative hype.
37:44Not necessarily like he's looked bad. It's been the exact opposite.
37:47He's been looking good. All the Jaguars, they've been looking so good, guys.
37:51Every single time. It just depends on the day.
37:54But Parker Washington has just kind of stolen the spotlight.
37:57And the usage for BTJ being pretty much the outside wide receiver coming off the field in two wide receiver sets.
38:04That just kind of makes me want to be out on BTJ in a redraft where it's not like a best ball setting.
38:11I have to choose to put him in my lineup.
38:14I'd rather choose Odunze over BTJ. Yeah, 100%. I think that's kind of where I've been most of the time when I've
38:21ended up making the choice between the two is leaning Odunze.
38:24I just think like with all the talk about him being Brian Thomas Jr.
38:28being the outside and the deep threat, like you're saying, like that's going to be much harder to predict in a redraft.
38:35I do think long term, I do think I like BTJ more as an NFL player for like dynasty wise.
38:41I think I like that play if he were to be able to get traded.
38:46But I mean, if he's only a deep threat player, you know, and he can't run the routes, then maybe not.
38:52And just in general, between these two guys and these two teams, like I'm kind of like a tangent on part of my watches.
39:00It's like just what happens with these offices in general, right?
39:03We have a ton of questions about what's going to happen with the Chicago Bears.
39:08Can Caleb Williams sustain with Ben Johnson's offense? All of these pieces, who gets left out?
39:13And then with the Jaguars, as you were talking about, Tootin seems like an afterthought.
39:17He's I think like for dynasty rankings, like almost an RB3.
39:21He's like running back 24 in some rankings. He's going and redrafts way later.
39:25Like, are we going to turn around at the end of the season and be like, oh, there's the this year's Javante Williams.
39:32Or is it going to be like a crowd and Joe and Tootin and the rookie they drafted?
39:38I can't what's Jamari Taylor or something like that.
39:41No, LaQuinn Allen also, I think. Yeah. So like, is it just going to be very messy?
39:46So just in general, those those two offenses fascinate me.
39:49And I think if you're willing to have like strong convictions of whether it's on Tootin or Rome or Brian Thomas Jr.,
39:56I think, you know, you can stand to make a significant jump in value.
40:00I think the ship has sailed to be in on Loveland and Burden and Parker Washington, I guess, also somewhat.
40:06Like, it feels like you've kind of missed the boat.
40:09You should have been on them like earlier, like where a lot of people were.
40:14So, yeah, I mean, in general, those two offenses really fascinate me.
40:18And I think we're going to get a lot of interesting offseason.
40:22And even more so than this year, this offseason coming up.
40:25Yeah. There's a lot of like hype out there for a lot of guys right now.
40:30And this happens every offseason. But for this year, for whatever reason, it just feels very inflated.
40:35And like it feels like week one is going to come around.
40:39The bubble is going to get burst. And half these guys are going to come crashing to the ground, man.
40:45Like your guy that you're about to talk about?
40:48Yeah, my guy. I wouldn't call him my guy here because I haven't really been up on this guy too much.
40:54In fact, I was a full fade on him in rookie drafts.
40:58Day, just Dayjon Stribling, not Dayjon Love, although he does wear his number now.
41:02That's hilarious. Change from number 15 to number seven.
41:05Dayjon Stribling of the 49ers. It's just going to be a necessity for the 49ers.
41:10Ricky Pearsall out for the year with aggravating his PCL injury, needing to get surgery on it.
41:15Christian Kirk is starting on the IR with, I don't remember what he's going through, whatever he's got.
41:21You have Mike Evans with a new injury every week.
41:24Literally like five different injuries in training camp. It was his hamstring, his ankle, his hamstring again, his calf.
41:30It's like, come on, man. Like that substation's got to hold you.
41:33You got to get away from it, man. George Kittle is supposed to play week one.
41:38But dude, this guy had an Achilles tear 10 months ago.
41:42And he's 34 years old, 33 years old. Like it just feels like a lot to ask to put George Kittle back
41:48on the field and be the receiver that we need him to be for this team.
41:53So Dayjon Stribling has been getting a ton of hype here.
41:57And camp, who they caught a ton of flack for in the draft, drafting them at the 201 where I was proud
42:04of them for trading out of the first. It's just so that they didn't take this guy in the first.
42:10They finally did the smart thing, trade out of the first to pick this guy, which apparently everybody had on their board.
42:17And they were going to take him. Nonetheless, like he's actually a thing, right?
42:21I mean, those analysts out there who are saying you just got to trust the process and know that Shanahan is going to make this guy a guy.
42:30It's going to happen. And honestly, I probably should have bought in on that for that reason.
42:35The 49ers offense is very efficient. It doesn't matter who you are, what talent level you are.
42:40If you can fit the role that Kyle Shanahan needs you to play and you can do it the way he wants
42:47you to do it, you're going to be productive in that offense.
42:51So Dayjon Stribling does fit the role that they need.
42:54It's obviously shown in all the joint practices and all the preseason games that we've seen him in.
42:59He's looked good. He's looked like he can play the role.
43:03We also have the second easiest strength of schedule weeks one through four.
43:07We have Rams week one. Okay, not great, Bob.
43:10But then you got the Dolphins, the Cardinals, and the Broncos.
43:13There's a target void where Dayjon Stribling can really step into and garner a decent target share here.
43:18And again, he's got enough skill where he'll just be efficient with that target share.
43:23How efficient he'll be is what I really want to watch for.
43:27I want to watch where he's being used and in what situations.
43:31And is he on the field in two wide receiver sets and three wide receiver sets?
43:36How efficient is he being? I'm expecting him to be enough to where people are going to be impressed by his efficiency metrics, right?
43:43It's probably going to be like a 25% target per route run and like a 2.7 yards per route run.
43:49That's just what Shanahan offenses do. But if it's like crazy above that, then I'll buy in.
43:54But if it's just kind of like average where people are like, oh, this is the guy you got to buy in.
44:01Then he's going to be a sell high for me at that moment.
44:05If people are willing to throw a first or a first plus at a Dayjon Stribling, see ya.
44:11Give me the first plus. Let me do something else with that more liquid asset and get out of that.
44:17Because I'm not going to be fooled by the Shanahan gleam here where he's turning bronze into gold and making it look better than it actually is.
44:25We'll see how that goes, right? Maybe it's actually not even that good.
44:29Maybe Mike Evans is fully healthy. Maybe George Kittle is more of a factor than we have.
44:35Or it's just Christian McCaffrey 27 times a game, right?
44:38Like that could literally be what happens here. Yeah, I mean, I think for Mike Evans, I think he's a very smart guy.
44:45He's getting his injuries out of the way now so he can be fully healthy for camp.
44:50Pretty sure that's how it happens when you're, you know, 33 or however old he is.
44:55You know, you just get them out of the way.
44:58You're smart. You avoid training camp. And then you're fully healthy for the entire season.
45:03But yeah, man, I think the Sean Stribling, it's kind of been pretty interesting because it's been such a roller coaster ride, right?
45:10It was like, what are the 49ers doing? They're idiots.
45:13And then like we get into, you know, rookie camp, training camp.
45:17And it's like, oh, this guy's actually kind of good.
45:20Wow, look at him. He's making plays. He looks good, man.
45:23And then all of a sudden, you know, he's going in like the 10th round and redraft all of a sudden where
45:30before he might have not even been drafted. So, I mean, part of it is, I think, the fact that Mike Evans has been so injured.
45:38Like you just can't depend on he's going to be there.
45:41It could be, you know, a situation where you're starting Mike Evans and then all of a sudden, then Stribling becomes a
45:48factor and going into the, you know, the next week, he's the priority add because Mike Evans has a serious injury and
45:55Stribling balled out when Mike Evans got hurt. And, you know, he put up 20 points and he was on everybody's bench or on waivers.
46:03I could totally see that happening in terms of like watch list.
46:06I think you're completely right. I think it's if the hype gets too crazy, you need to sell because he doesn't project
46:13to be that sort of dominant player. But I'm also fine holding like that.
46:18You know, at some point, like it's OK to hold if you if he ends up just being a good player.
46:24You know, you do need good players. It's not always about just like, you know, flipping it for, you know, minimal value games.
46:31Obviously, if if there is enough there to squeeze to make it worthwhile, then, you know, go for it.
46:37But if he just turns out to be a guy and you got him either after your rookie waivers ran or like
46:44in the third, fourth round of rookie drafts, if you did him really early, I feel like that's where he was going
46:51right after the NFL draft because everybody was so down on him.
46:54And then he kind of, you know, with how bad the draft was, he kind of went into the second round.
47:01But either way, like, you know, if you turn your second round pick into a starter on your team, then, you know,
47:08in such a bad draft of everything. So I would definitely love to hold on to him in that situation, too.
47:14Yeah, that's fair. I'm sure people are making the same argument for Ayuk.
47:18It feels really similar here, right? I mean, it's just similar prospects, similar reach and just stepped into the role and made himself a name.
47:26All right, man, let's take a quick break here.
47:29And then we'll be back on the other side where you can go ahead and lead us off with your second player to watch here.
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48:47You're welcome. All right. Welcome back. All right, Jose.
48:50Go ahead, man. Who you got for your second watch list guy?
48:53It's going to be Rico Dowdle, the running back from now Pittsburgh, playing out there with Jalen Warren.
48:59You know, I'm really interested to see can Rico finally kind of hang on to a role in a starting job?
49:05Can he cement his starting position there and kind of usurp, I think is the word I'm looking for.
49:11Jalen Warren, who signed the contract that wasn't very big.
49:14They do have an out after this season if they wanted to.
49:18I think they brought in Rico Dowdle because they kind of liked what they had last year with the one-two punch.
49:24Yeah, Kenneth Gainwell. Yeah, Kenneth Gainwell and Jalen Warren.
49:27Sorry. Yeah, so I'm really interested to see where he goes.
49:31He's had flashes of being a very good running back, right?
49:34We saw what happened last year when he took over and kind of, you know, I don't know.
49:40He half for like three or four games took the job and then kind of gave it back.
49:45And then it was kind of like they were playing hot potato, but he has shown flashes of being able to be a prolific runner in the league.
49:54And I think he's kind of just kind of waiting for a team to fully give him the opportunity, right?
50:00Which I think hasn't happened since like the Cowboys days, right?
50:03Like he's kind of bounced around and hasn't really ever been given the shine to be the guy.
50:09And so I don't know. I feel like he's another guy where you get to the end of the season and you're like, huh?
50:16Okay, this guy's actually pretty good. You know, he's had two back-to-back thousand-yard seasons.
50:21He just hasn't been able to get the touchdowns.
50:24So like can Pittsburgh be good enough and he gets enough touches that he gets into the double-digit touchdowns?
50:29That'd be kind of where you're at. But I mean, you know, back-to-back seasons being a running back too.
50:35And I feel like he's drafted way less, like lower than that.
50:39Like I don't think Tyler Jalen Warren is anything special to keep Rico off the field, kind of like in the same
50:46situation that it was last year with Chuba. Like Chuba was nothing spectacular.
50:50And once Rico got on the field, it just seemed like he was a better runner, better for the team.
50:56So that's something I'm keeping my eye on. I mean, it's definitely something that there won't be a giant play.
51:02But like if he, you know, the metrics start leaning Rico for the first, you know, two, three, four weeks, it might
51:09be a time where you can go by him before he fully takes over the backfield.
51:14I think right now it's that it's going to be a split.
51:18But we always know that like, you know, that's tentative at best, right?
51:22Like we don't know that's guaranteed to continue that way.
51:25So it might be a situation where like the metrics or in key situations, Rico Dado's in, especially where, you know, you need Aaron Rodgers trust.
51:33And he's the guy that's getting called either to pass block or to run the ball or to catch the little screen or whatever it is.
51:41I think those would be important things where you might be able to, you know, trade for Rico still on the cheap
51:48before he kind of becomes the starter halfway through the season.
51:51Yeah, man, we were kind of talking about beforehand how he's just extremely underappreciated, not only by fantasy managers, but by the NFL too, right?
51:59I mean, like you said, the dude had back-to-back thousand yard seasons with two different teams.
52:04And now he's on his third team in third years after putting up thousand yard seasons.
52:09Like he kind of just feels like a mercenary, right?
52:12Like he reminds me of the Jacoby Myers of running backs, right?
52:16Like just like the guy who gets it done, reliable, and is willing to go out there and do the dirty work
52:22and do it well and efficiently, right? Like 4.6 yards per carry over the last two years, seven touchdowns and five touchdowns,
52:2939 receptions in both of those seasons. Yeah, with 50 targets.
52:33So it's not like he's a slouch, can't, you know, catch the pass at all.
52:37Like to me, it just seems like what is Jalen Warren better?
52:41Is he supposed to be a better pass catcher, right?
52:44But it's not like Rico Dotto is so bad that he can't catch any passes.
52:49So it just seems like he gets into these situations where the coaches are like, yeah, Rico Dotto is good.
52:55But we also got this guy and then like Rico Dotto plays and they're like, oh yeah, we have Rico Dotto.
53:01Maybe that's the, you know, that's the guy we need to be featuring.
53:05Yeah. Leading out the season two, they play the Patriots, the Bengals, the Browns, the Colts.
53:10Bro, I don't know if the Browns are actually going to be that good this year, like defense wise.
53:16I don't know about that. I don't think so.
53:19Yeah, man. Like they're just going to be a dumpster fire all around.
53:23So like it could be good. Like how, what's that split like between Jalen Warren and Rico Dotto?
53:29I think that's going to be the thing to watch for me.
53:32And who's getting the passing game work? Because it could be either one of them.
53:37And really it's going to come down to who does Aaron Rodgers like better?
53:41Well, I mean, there's also the connection that Rico, when he had his thousand yard season in Dallas, was with Mike McCarthy.
53:48So there's that also that coaching, you know, connection there as well.
53:52Yeah, no, for sure. For sure. All right. Let's roll in to my next guy here.
53:57And it is your bull take Chase Brown. I want to see what it's going to look like for him.
54:03Will he keep his same usages as last year?
54:06They start off against the Bucks, the Texans, the Steelers, and the Jags.
54:10All of them were top half of defenses versus running backs last year.
54:14Three of them were in the top eight, being the Texans, the Steelers, and the Jags.
54:19There could be a rough start for him, which could spook some managers.
54:23And I feel like if that is the case, maybe there's a buy low situation in there because the schedule does open up for him after that.
54:31Chase Brown is good, right? But we saw this last season with him.
54:35He had a slow start last season where people were panicking and didn't really know what to do with Chase Brown, me being one of them.
54:43So I would say just watch. Watch and see how he's being used.
54:47Like how much is Samajah Piran actually getting mixed in?
54:50How much is Chase Brown on the field in these two-minute situations?
54:54What does his targets look like? Is he being efficient with all of his touches?
54:59I think those things could be there for them.
55:01I hope those things are there for them. But this is something I really want to watch.
55:07I've been hesitant to kind of place all my chips on Chase Brown this year because of these reasons.
55:13So I'm completely intrigued on how it's actually going to go for him.
55:17Because I do think it could be a slow start.
55:20But if the usage numbers are favorable for him, then I think there's going to be an opportunity to buy in low there.
55:27Not only in redraft, but also in Dynasty. I think people could just be scared of that situation in general.
55:33He's also, again, just like you were saying with Rico Dowdo, he's on a contract year.
55:38So that could actually boost his stock for him in the offseason here.
55:42He might be even a little more motivated to kind of play well there.
55:46So Chase Brown is a name that I want to keep my eye on.
55:51And I want to kind of download those stats as one of the first teams that I look at every week when I get into those PFF sheets.
55:59Yeah, I mean, first of all, how dare you just start there?
56:03But, you know, I mean, you know, sometimes it's important to go, you know, to the I don't know what what analogy I was just about to say.
56:12But straight to the source. Right. One Joe Joe Burrow here speaking about his running back.
56:17He's a complete back. He can protect. He trains as a receiver all offseason.
56:21And you wouldn't know that he was a running back when he's out there doing it.
56:26He makes people miss the first guy almost never bring him down.
56:30He's smart. He cares about it. I think there's very few backs in this league that you can say that about.
56:36And to finish off, obviously, we're going to try to get the ball in number one's hands.
56:41Speaking about Jamar Chase as many times as we can.
56:44But I think a close second is Chase Brown just because of how explosive he is and the things that he can
56:51do with the ball in his hands. That's the man that literally puts the ball in people's hands, telling you that Chase
56:58Brown is the second best receiver on the team.
57:01So, I mean, I saw that I was giddy.
57:04I wanted to post it everywhere when I saw Joe Burrow talking about it.
57:08But I definitely am with you. Like, it could have been a special run there at the end of the season where
57:15he had such a large target share volume. It could have been that, you know, they weren't playing for anything.
57:21They were eliminated by the time Joe Burrow was coming.
57:24Not eliminated when he was. Where are they eliminated?
57:27When he came back from Madrid? Not yet. So, but it was shortly after.
57:31Like, I remember it was like 1% chance by week, whatever it was.
57:35So maybe they were just out there having fun, putting new package.
57:39I don't know. But I want to say that it does continue.
57:43And I definitely think that he's going to be a guy, like I said, towards the end of the season where we're
57:49going to be looking at him, I think, finally in a different way.
57:53I think he plays very well and the Bengals secure the bag for him.
57:58And then we're kind of thinking about him in a much different light.
58:02So I agree with you. Even after a few couple good games, I think if you buy in early, you'll be setting
58:09yourself up with a running back for a couple years in Dynasty.
58:12Obviously, he's a little bit older. So it's not the five-year plan.
58:16But, you know, if you're a contender or you're – I think he's a great piece to acquire if you're not shooting
58:23for the 101 anymore, but you're looking at a productive struggle or competing in 27.
58:27Buying Chase Brown now and then holding him. Yes, he's going to pull up your point max points for.
58:33But being okay with that so that you have a cemented running back one for your competing window next year.
58:40Yeah, man. This is no shocker. The quarterback is talking him up.
58:43Okay, like there's no question about his talent. Chase Brown's good, right?
58:47I mean, that question has been put to bed now for damn near three seasons, right?
58:52Like the haters can go bury their takes because they're dead and gone, right?
58:56Like Chase Brown's good. Like he is a special talent.
58:59They need to get the ball in 30s hand as much as possible because he's a difference maker and he'll make it happen.
59:06I'm just – I want to be convinced that he's going to be on the field in those situations.
59:12That it's going to happen that way. And I really hope it does, Jose, because I did take him in the redraft league that I drafted in yesterday.
59:21I shocked everybody. We get to choose our draft positions based on our finish last year.
59:26So, you know, number 12 gets to choose their draft position.
59:29I finished seventh or eighth in that league. So, I got to pick number five.
59:34And I took the 12 spot with the sole intention that I was going to go get Chase Brown and Omarion Hampton, baby.
59:41Let's hope they both are top three running backs this year.
59:45Yeah, I mean, then that's bad news for Gibbs or Bijon because if they're both up there, one of those guys is coming down.
59:52Gibbs can be there. Bijon can – he can be number four.
59:56I had two drafts today where the draft order was decided like right before the draft started, both 101.
60:02So, I am in deep on Gibbs. He is my cornerstone in major fantasy – sorry, dynasty leagues as well.
60:08So, I am in – you know, if the podcast – Do we need to redo a ride or die?
60:14Yeah. If our podcast randomly in the middle of the season right after Gibbs gets injured goes on hiatus, that's probably why
60:21because I've probably just uninstalled sleeper and I'm not, you know, playing fantasy anymore because, yeah, that's I think three major dynasty leagues.
60:28He's the cornerstone and then now several redraft leagues thanks to acquiring the 101.
60:32But – Sounds like you're going to have a good fantasy here, baby.
60:36I sure – yeah, I mean, it's only thing that derails it is injuries, right, which you can never account for.
60:43So, there's nothing there. But, yeah, man, are you done with your Chase Brown hate?
60:47I'm done. All right, man. Well, I got a bit of – you know, I'm going to keep this one short with you.
60:54I think Kyler Murray is a guy that, you know, we could be looking at having a revitalized career.
61:00I understand there's a lot of memes about him and all the things and that he loves Call of Duty or whatever.
61:07But we've seen Kevin O'Connell, you know, revitalize quarterbacks' careers.
61:10Kyler Murray has that kind of elite rushing ability that I think some people have kind of forgotten about because he has
61:17been injured ever since the ACL tear. I think Kevin O'Connell will kind of, you know, use him to the best of his abilities.
61:24And I think Kyler, if, you know, he does actually care about football, knows this may be his last chance before now.
61:31You know, next season he's looking at backup jobs.
61:34So if he can, you know, revitalize his career here, I think he's a great quarterback to have in a room, either
61:41the second, obviously, or the third, preferably going into the season.
61:44But next season we could be talking about, hey, Kyler Murray is not a horrible second quarterback to have in Superflex.
61:51So I'm just, you know, to see is the Kyler Murray that we saw two or three years ago before the injury
61:58where he was a top-end quarterback in the NFL and for fantasy.
62:01Is that guy still there? And I think Kevin O'Connell is probably one of the – I guess it's been 2024 he was a top-ten quarterback.
62:09And then his, you know, obviously his top three was quite a long ways in the rearview mirror now.
62:15But, you know, he's 29. He's still, you know, he can find a job and get a contract like Baker Mayfield or Sam Darnold, two, three, four-year contract.
62:24He still has, I think, decent runway to be a fantasy-relevant asset.
62:28I think this is the turning point, right? And I'm really interested to see what the metrics look like.
62:33How much is he going to be rushing? What does it look like with Justin Jefferson?
62:38And, you know, kind of all of that. Yeah, I'm interested to see who his favorite target is on our team because,
62:45I mean, we all assume it's going to be Justin Jefferson, but it could very well be TJ Hawkinson or maybe Jordan Addison comes back to life, right?
62:54What does the run game look like with Kyler Murray in there?
62:58There's a 1A, 1B with Aaron Jones Sr. and Jordan Mason.
63:01And there's a lot of question marks about that offense, but there's also a lot of potential for that offense, right?
63:07And we believe in the system. Like you said, like the Kevin O'Connell system is a good one to buy into.
63:14Did you say he was a quarterback 10 in 2024?
63:17Yes, sir. That's crazy. I don't remember that at all.
63:20I remember drafting him and being really disappointed. Yeah, I think it's just because it was a lot of ups and downs.
63:27It was not consistent. Like he was not a guy.
63:30He was hurt too, right? No, he played 16 games.
63:33He only missed one. It was mostly just I think people remember the really low end games where he scored 12 points.
63:40He scored five points. He scored 11 points. He scored 10 points, but then it was followed up by 24, 36, 27.
63:47Like it was just a sprinkle of no consistency where especially in a one quarterback league, if you were trying to start
63:54Kyler Murray, it felt like, oh, shoot, he cost me the week.
63:57I'm going to move off from Kyler Murray. Oh, shoot.
64:00Now he could have won me the week. Like very frustrating.
64:04I think those are the type of narratives that people kind of like stick with them and they don't really go back
64:11and look like, hey, like, you know, what was going on?
64:14Where was the Cardinals? You know, obviously last season it was very bad, but mostly everything besides Trey McBride with the Cardinals was very bad last year.
64:22So I'm just, you know, hopeful. I think it's a complete tangent not to just dunk on nine, but I think it was crazy that he did.
64:31He was battling for the quarterback one position and ended up as the quarterback three.
64:35That is that is one way to fail downwards tremendously, horribly bad.
64:39But I just got nine on him, bro. Yeah, man.
64:42I don't I don't know. But yeah. So, yeah.
64:45I mean, I think in terms of like actionable advice there, I think he's just somebody, you know, keep an eye on.
64:52Does he start hot? What what can you do in a super flex league before?
64:56You know, the Kyler Murray stink, I think is going to follow him unless he has a really, really good year.
65:03So, you know, if you need an extra quarterback, he could be one of those cheaper guys.
65:08Maybe you have a you know, your quarterback, too, in a super flex that gets hurt early in the season.
65:14He's a guy I would go knocking on a door for if he starts out, you know, pretty consistent and off to a good start.
65:22From experience. Even if Kyler Murray starts off hot, no one no one's going to believe him.
65:27You're not going to be able to sell him if you're going to try and sell him for a first.
65:33You're not going to get it right. Like I've tried this many times with last year was Daniel Jones.
65:39The year before that was Sam Darnold. Like these guys, people don't believe in them.
65:44Right. Like, but I think they're worth that price.
65:47Like as soon as we seen see them be good, especially in a system that we believe in, I think they're worth that price.
65:54And like maybe you can, you know, whittle them down and get them below that price where it's a little more palatable for you to buy into it.
66:03But I really think that's the move to do here.
66:06Like if Kyler Murray starts off strong, his price is just not going to skyrocket.
66:11You're going to be able to get on them.
66:13Yeah. Which I think is the correct thing. Like if he's still super cheap, then why not?
66:19If you if you're maybe you went into the season with a shaky quarterback or quarterback room, then why not just hop
66:25in and get yourself a quarterback that, you know, could potentially be down the stretch a league winner or the type of
66:32quarterback that everybody's trying to stream in in redraft leagues?
66:35Yeah, for sure. All right, man. That's the last player that we have.
66:39Let's kind of go over a couple of situations on teams that we're looking at just real quick here before we hit the outro.
66:47For me, one of them was the commanders and their skill players.
66:51We have a new offensive coordinator with David Blau.
66:53How does he dial up this offense? How bad is that offensive line we've heard in camp that it's the worst offensive
67:00line that they've seen over there in the D.C.
67:03area? So will it matter even right? Like what is the run game?
67:07Is it going to hurt the run game? Is it going to hurt Jaden Daniels in the passing game?
67:13They have the Eagles, the Cowboys, the Seahawks, and the Colts to start.
67:17That's pretty brutal coming out of the gate, man.
67:20If the offense looks even half competent, even though they're not great, maybe it's worth buying into just for the situation, knowing
67:26that you're going to get a discount on these players and they're going to be good.
67:31But it's scary, man. It's scary. I think it's definitely scary.
67:35I think you're going to see a lot of Jaden Daniels running for his life and you hope that he can protect himself.
67:42I think sadly that's what he's going to be.
67:45I think for the run game, I'm just not really interested.
67:48If one of them can carve out and be the guy, whether it's Bill or whoever, I think Bill is the front
67:55runner, but I think he's also struggling with an injury.
67:58But otherwise, we see what bad offensive lines. I think the only weapon that you're kind of even interested in is Jaden Daniels.
68:05But I feel like if they pull through and look half competent, it's going to be on the back of him and
68:12then he's going to become too expensive. So it's almost like a gamble you have to make now.
68:17Or if they look horrible and you still think Jaden Daniels is him, I think his stock has been trending down.
68:24So I think it will continue if they start 0-4 and he has bad games.
68:29I think you could have some people maybe panicking in Dynasty or just looking to move on if he's on a contenders team.
68:36I think it could definitely be a move to make there if you believe that Daniels is a guy or the guy.
68:43I'm still kind of – I don't know. I don't want to fence it when I'm supposed to have strong opinions, but
68:49I think I find myself a lot in that situation with Jaden Daniels.
68:53I do believe that he has the ability to break fantasy with his rushing ability.
68:58I just don't know if they're going to surround him and do enough for him to survive to do that.
69:04When you would watch Lamar Jackson do what he did, it was not just video game ask, but he always just knew how to avoid the big hit.
69:13He knew how to not get blown up and he could also throw the ball at a prolific rate.
69:19I think we've still struggled to see that with Jaden Daniels partially because they haven't done what we're kind of talking about
69:26in Arizona where they haven't surrounded him with weapons.
69:28You got Terry McLaurin and now Devo – sorry, no, Stephon Diggs out there.
69:33It's like, is that what you need your rookie or your second – third-year quarterback doing now?
69:38That's who he's throwing to. It's just not it.
69:41The running back room is not it. So they're just expecting so much of Jaden Daniels and I don't feel like they're
69:47giving him the fair shot to make it happen.
69:50I also am trying to think, what did they do with their picks?
69:54Because I don't think their defense is supposed to be touted as a really good defense either.
70:00So I'm just trying to think, what did they spend – they have a horrible offensive line.
70:05They don't have a great offense. They don't have a great defense.
70:09Where are they burning their picks at? I'm trying to remember the draft and I just can't remember who they were drafting.
70:15But it feels like not impactful at all for Jaden Daniels' career, at least yet.
70:20I mean, the offensive skill players that come to mind are K.
70:24Tron Allen and then they also got the wide receiver from Clemson.
70:27I'm blanking on his name right now. But these are later picks.
70:31Like, where did their first one, two – No, the wide receiver was like a second, third-round pick?
70:37He was a day-two pick for sure. But, yeah, I don't know.
70:40Like, their first-round pick, I think they win defense.
70:43I'm pretty sure. With Dan Quinn, that makes sense, I guess.
70:47But, yeah. Honestly, like, what this comes down to, and we'll know really early on, is can David Blau put together an
70:53offense, even with bad offensive line and not all these talented skill players around Jaden Daniels, can he dial up an offense
71:00that can make the game easier on Jaden Daniels, where they can kind of dink and dunk their way down the field
71:07and use his legs in an efficient way where he's not getting blown up?
71:11Like, we'll know really early on. And even if they're losing games and even if they're not putting up big points, if
71:18we see that, then I think that's the signal to go buy-in on them.
71:22All right. Yeah, 100%. Let's shift to this last one here, the Broncos skill players, because this is another new play caller.
71:29I think people forget that Davis Webb is going to be calling the offensive plays here, and it's not going to be Sean Payton doing it.
71:37What will Jalen Waddle's role be? How will the backfield shake out?
71:41Like, we all think it's going to be J.K.
71:44Dobbins being the one, but how much is he going to be the one?
71:48Is this going to be more of a timeshare than we think it will be, right?
71:53They also have a really tough schedule coming out the first six weeks.
71:57It's Chiefs, Jags, Rams, 49ers, Chargers, Seahawks. I could definitely see the Broncos stumbling out of the gate here and people kind
72:04of panicking and wanting to get out of it, especially if Davis Webb isn't that great of a play caller.
72:10Like, it's going to be interesting here, and I don't really know what the signal will be with these guys, but I'm curious.
72:17I want to see what's going to happen. This is definitely one I'm going to watch.
72:22I think we see it, you know, reflected in the ADP of these players being drafted.
72:27None of them are being drafted highly. Absolutely none of them.
72:31There's a lot of hype for Jalen Waddle, but I honestly think he could be one of those guys that just kind
72:37of falls and doesn't live up to the hype that he has.
72:41Yeah, I mean, I think it's pretty interesting. I mean, I think Webb was an internal hire, right, or promotion, whatever you want to call it, right?
72:49So he's been with the team. He knows how Sean Payton likes to run the offense.
72:54I still think that Sean Payton, from everything we understand about him as a head coach, is still going to have his
73:01hands all over this offense and be in his ear.
73:04And, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up like a Lions situation where he just takes the play calling.
73:11Yeah, it takes the play calling back. But, you know, I mean, they promoted him and Sean Payton gave the reins up for a reason.
73:19So maybe he really trusts him. You know, when you're reading off that starting schedule, it definitely makes me be like, oh,
73:26yeah, wasn't I really in on Bo Nix? But I guess we're going to find out, right, like if Bo Nix and
73:32this team is legit, they should come out of that with a winning record and, you know, be battling the Chiefs and the Chargers for the division, right?
73:41Like they play both of those guys within that.
73:44And so we'll really know what they're about. I think that's sometimes a positive, right?
73:48If you want to get, you know, if you want to find out what Jalen Waddle and the offense is about, this
73:55is a great test to really see what is going to come down.
73:59You play the Rams as well, one of the best, you know, defenses in the league.
74:04So I'm in on Waddle. I've always thought he's been talented.
74:08You know, hopefully Webb can use in the right way and he can stay healthy.
74:12But it's definitely interesting. I've also been maybe just reading the wrong beat writers or something or just hyping myself up because
74:19I wasn't on Jonah Coleman before the draft. I don't know.
74:23I could see at the end of the season where Jonah Coleman was the best running back for this group.
74:29I don't know if that's like super hot takey, but, you know, I don't think they loved what they got out of RJ Harvey.
74:36And J.K. Dobbins is, you know, pinky promising he's going to be healthy, but we know how that kind of goes.
74:43So I definitely agree. I think these two teams you called out are very interesting to see how they how it plays out in the early weeks.
74:51Yeah. One last note on Jonah Coleman. This was my take when he got drafted was it's bad for RJ Harvey and for Jonah Coleman.
74:59Right. Because if J.K. Dobbins goes down, it's just going to be a complete timeshare.
75:03Like I we've seen Sean Payton not trust the rookies fully going into it.
75:08Like even with RJ Harvey last year, they were still giving Tyler Bidet touches.
75:12And the other running back, I can never remember.
75:15McLaughlin. Yeah. McLaughlin. Yeah. Like they were all involved.
75:18And so like Jonah Coleman is just not going to step into this J.K.
75:22Dobbins role and get 15 touches a game. It's going to be a little bit of RJ Harvey, a little bit of Jonah Coleman.
75:29And honestly, probably a little bit of Jaleel McLaughlin or whoever that guy is on there.
75:34Like, I don't know. Maybe Jonah Coleman is that guy.
75:37I really like the talent. I just I hate this offense.
75:41And I know what it's going to do to these fantasy assets that we love.
75:45Yeah. It's it's it's rough. Sean Payton does not care about fantasy football one bit.
75:50No, not one bit. And yeah, I don't care about him for that reason.
75:54All right, man, let's hit the outro here. That was a little bit of a longer one, but it was fun.
76:01We had fun with this one. So get your binoculars out as week one rolls in here, guys.
76:06Happy 2026 season. Let's go, baby. Exactly. Yeah. You'll be listening to this a couple of days right before the season starts.
76:13It's got what is the the there's not a free for the Super Bowl Super Bowl rematch.
76:19It's rematch is the kickoff. It's in Seahawks. And then we get the Australia game.
76:23Yeah. Niners and Rams, bro. I'm not ready for that.
76:26Yep. Puka taking a bite out of the competition over there.
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