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1:00Terms apply. Stan and Casey, FFD, Dynasty, Bryce check together.
1:03Stan, how was your week two? It was great, man.
1:06The injuries put a little damper on me for a moment there, seeing a lot of big names go down.
1:12But hey, it seems like some of them aren't as serious as we were initially expecting.
1:17So let's just hope everyone gets their pads back on soon and we're back to scoring fantasy points.
1:22Yeah, no, totally. It looked like week two had taken a lot away from us, but it seems like maybe some are
1:29way less worse than we initially thought. So time will tell.
1:32We're here on Monday afternoon. We're going to chop up some kind of recap and talk about trending players, whether we're buy,
1:39sell and holden or we called it factor fiction last week.
1:42Kind of just some thought processes on some players that are either doing really well or maybe poorly.
1:47And then we'll end this segment or end this show with a little buy low, sell high sort of panic meter.
1:54So if we skip something in the first iteration of talking about a team and they seem topical, they will probably be
2:00on the bottom end of the show or even in show two if Jason so chooses.
2:05So without further ado, Stan, let's jump right into it.
2:08Jaden Daniels goes down, re-injures that non-throwing elbow. How do you think this impacts the commanders overall?
2:13What players do you think this hurts more? Or I don't know that it necessarily helps anybody, but you aren't as concerned
2:20with maybe their production and startability and fantasy. Yeah, well, let's start with Stefan Diggs.
2:24He found the end zone twice again this week.
2:27He looks like the wide receiver one in Washington for the season right now.
2:31And even after Daniels went out, Diggs was able to find the end zone.
2:35So maybe Diggs and Marcus got a little connection we don't know about, right?
2:39Maybe they can right the ship and keep Washington afloat over there.
2:43Now, all being considered, though, I think this just hurts all of Washington's offense in general, right?
2:48Harder to sustain a good run game when your quarterback isn't as strong and it can't open up as much in play action.
2:55Isn't as much of a rushing threat that Jaden Daniels is.
2:58So I think, you know, all those things need to be considered there.
3:02I think it hurts Terry McLaurin, who's had quite the dry start to the season.
3:07And I'll admit, I was pretty high on Terry going into the year.
3:10I thought this is a real bounce back year for Terry.
3:14Bought a lot of shares of him across my dynasty leagues on some contenders.
3:18So that one's that one's that water or that well has not struck any water yet.
3:23Casey. No, no. And I, the Terry one stings, you know, it's certainly more into him on redraft than I was in
3:29dynasty, you know, for competitors that would have been a buy that I'd be interested in a little later as, and this
3:36is the reason why I usually go that route.
3:38One, you don't know what team's going to do.
3:41What, as far as your teams and two, you don't know how that player environment is going to be.
3:47Even if you think it's going to be wheels up, like I thought it would be.
3:52And here we are in week two, dealing with similar things that we dealt with last year for Jaden Daniels.
3:58Now next week, they do play Seattle. Now they aren't at home against Seattle, but that's going to be a matchup where I'm probably benching all of them.
4:06If I can, everybody with a maroon or burgundy Jersey on is probably getting a bench for me as far as that goes.
4:13Yeah. I mean, don't, don't throw and throw me on so early gassing up my own team here, but that defense looks
4:19as put together as I can remember from a unit just rolling right into the season.
4:24And like I said, this is the glaze train, right?
4:27For the Seahawks when it comes to dynasty price check.
4:30So take it all with a grain of salt, but I don't know a whole lot of teams that come out backup
4:37quarterback right out of the gate and just are comfortably cruising to wins.
4:41I mean, the Cardinals aren't exactly a pushover. Now we're going to ask the question maybe later, are the chargers legit?
4:47Right. So how much did that win really mean?
4:49But you know, for those of you that watched that first half was crazy.
4:54Oh, a little testy, you know, it was a good game and Jacoby was dealing back and forth and the game was close.
5:01And then I think the quality just rose to the top defense started doing their thing.
5:05Seattle started rushing that ball down their throat at the end.
5:09And I know we'll maybe jump and talk about some, uh, some Seattle players soon here.
5:13Jadarian price, manual Wilson, all the above. But yeah, I think Washington, uh, I'd be fading.
5:18I'd be fading a lot of those Washington pass catchers next week.
5:22Yeah. Especially the fall, you know, this next week after the injury, this, that's just a tough matchup.
5:27Then they have the Colts, the Giants, Niners, Eagles, Rams.
5:30Doesn't get a whole lot easier for Washington. I think that's going to be one of the first coaches out or rather,
5:37I think next year we're going to be seeing a whole new staff there in Washington.
5:41Unfortunately, never wishing for anybody's firings, but that just seems to be the writing on the wall that, that Dan Quinn rookie season with Jaden Daniels.
5:49I think that was more of fiction than fact.
5:52Uh, I mean, look, I'm no doctor too. And, and again, I'm not trying to throw the coaching staff in question here.
5:58I'm sure these guys have the best in the business quote in them, but did you see this morning?
6:04I read that, you know, Jaden Daniels re-injured the same elbow, right?
6:08And they ended up not going the surgical route last year in order to try to get him back, you know, and
6:14just get him back on the football field. And apparently the doctor said, and I watched another doctor report this morning saying,
6:21if you don't go the surgery route, you're far more likely to re-injure that elbow again with the same injury.
6:27And it happened again. And so it's like, I don't know, is there questions to be asked in the Washington staff room right now?
6:34Like, why not just protect your franchise quarterback? Do the surgical option.
6:38You had nothing to play for last year. I don't know.
6:41Questions, questions will be asked Casey. Yeah. And you know, maybe that was a hit a quarterback decision as well.
6:47Who knows? Yeah. But so that leads me to say, you know, is this a by Jaden Daniels question mark?
6:53Was this generally a terrible overreach sort of on him of where we placed him and have been chasing?
6:58Were we wrong? Well, I mean, look, injuries are really hard to predict, right?
7:03So I hate to play that bug. But like, let's just look at recency a little bit here, right?
7:08Yeah. Real quick. Yeah. Real quick. I would. And I like where you're going.
7:12I already know where you're going. I like it.
7:15Yeah. Yeah. But even injury withheld, like he just hasn't looked great on field generally as far as command of what we saw in that first year.
7:23So sorry. And I didn't want this to just be an injury question because that's not necessarily what I was driving at.
7:30So continue, Stan. Sorry. Totally. No, no, no. I agree with you too.
7:34And like, even to that point, and I'm with you, like he hasn't looked fantastic on the field.
7:39I feel like even since the end of that rookie year, it's not been the exact same person in my mind.
7:45And, you know, you could bring up the injuries.
7:48You could bring up, you know, the change in regime over there and different guys going in and out and offensive line
7:55struggles or whatever you want to focus on, right?
7:57Lack of a run game. I mean, all those are probably somewhat valid, right?
8:01I think it's just, you know, where I was going was, you know, you had CJ Stroud crush it his rookie year, right?
8:08He rises up. He's dynasty super flex 103. I saw him going left and right there.
8:13Then last year, it, or then the year after, right?
8:16It happens Jane Daniels. And last year happens with Drake may.
8:19And I think it's just like, we're such an emotional species.
8:23We're so reactionary and dynasty and it's hard not to do it.
8:26Right. I do it too. I get excited by players, but I think it's just like, especially with quarterbacks, man, like we've learned at this point.
8:34Some quarterbacks aren't even good until they're 28, 29.
8:37I mean, Sam Darnold, right? Like you don't even know these days.
8:40And so I think it's like to crown someone King or rush up and overdraft them right away is, um, is something
8:47that I think we all need to be wary of.
8:50And I preach it a lot, you know, in, in my philosophy, my channel, whatever you want to talk about, like I'm a big production guy.
8:57Show me, don't tell me. I want to see it year after year, but maybe that's something we can learn better about quarterbacks, right?
9:05Don't go chasing after one season. These guys are fickle.
9:08It's, you know, just like TLC said, you can't go chasing waterfalls.
9:11Um, anyway, no, I agree. And I, and, and, you know, I see obviously, you know, dynasty rankings.
9:17I don't think there should be a whole lot of fiddling with them for another couple of weeks here.
9:22Obviously we could probably make small adjustments and we can be like, Ooh, we really, really wrong on that one.
9:28That needs adjustment. But generally I don't think that should be something that we, we do.
9:33Cause if you are already doing big adjustments, it probably weren't great to begin with.
9:37Right. Um, but just speaking to the point of, Hey, everybody wants to be reactionary.
9:42Everybody wants to be kind of current and moving things around.
9:45And I think that's kind of where, where we got with CJ Stroud, maybe a little too soon with Jane Daniels.
9:51It was the legs that said, Oh no, well, at least the floor is there.
9:56And then is Drake may have we done the same almost seeing a went to a super bowl run, not different from
10:03Jane Daniels and their team kind of going to that NFC championship or whatever that was run in his rookie year.
10:09Uh, the legs are good. The deep ball was good.
10:12Are we, uh, did we overreact on Drake may too?
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11:28Why wait? Very possibly, right? I think there was a lot of talk about it last year.
11:33Drake, the schedule may. And I think this is just a lesson in sports in general.
11:37I'm not going to take us on too long of a rabbit trail here, Casey.
11:42But I played soccer at a high level. I used to always watch this happen.
11:46Sometimes your team can be really good. And then the next year, you're not as good.
11:51And sports is such an amazing thing, right? There's a million variables that go into every single week, every single game, every single outing.
11:58And I think that you see a lot of that in football too, right?
12:02It's like the combo of the guys in the locker room, the coordinators, the injuries, everything.
12:07And so it's like, yeah, if Drake may is really good one year, I don't know if we can just put a
12:14crown on his head and walk him up to the 102.
12:17I watched him go in front of Josh Allen multiple times this offseason.
12:21I picked up Josh Allen at 105 in the Dynasty Superflex startup earlier this offseason.
12:25And it's just lovely. I'm smiling ear to ear, Casey, because it's like sometimes we have these guys and we look them
12:32in the face and we chase the flashy new thing.
12:35And it's like, no, why not just take what is right in front of you?
12:39That platter. Josh Allen is right in front of me.
12:42I couldn't have been happier because he's not skipped a beat, Casey.
12:46He's right here. He's still king, right? Yeah. Another 40-point performance this week.
12:50Right, right. And look, we're going to talk about some rankings and some this or that throughout here, buy, sell, hold, however
12:57you want to label this kind of. First part of the episode here.
13:00But again, you know, to move that significant that fast, especially, you know, and Stroud, Jaden Daniels and May could be just
13:07three recent examples year over year of those were just grossly misvalued.
13:11And we took what we knew and was great in front of us.
13:14And we kind of threw to the wind and said, hey, this new hot thing's coming and we want to be ahead
13:21of it instead of just waiting a second. Right.
13:24Hey, I mean, I don't want to get too deep into Dynasty strategy here, Casey, but like I beat this drum all off, Susan.
13:31I still stand by it. I am an active.
13:34I will take my first quarterback in the fourth round and I will take my second quarterback in like the sixth or seventh.
13:40And it's always Jared Goff as QB2. It's always Jared Goff.
13:44I take it at the end of the sixth if I got a reach or early seventh if I feel comfortable with
13:50it because the guy gives me top 10 finishes at a perpetual rate.
13:54And in the fourth round, I'll grab Bo Nix or Brock Purdy.
13:58And like Bo Nix hasn't had the best start to the season.
14:01I'll acknowledge that. Brock Purdy on the other end of things.
14:05Glock Purdy over there is dealing. But it's like, I think like this is a lot of the reason I don't go
14:11chasing even the, you know, the Caleb Williams, the, you know, the guys with these crazy rushing upside that I got a
14:18lot of Trevor Lawrence in the fourth, fifth round last off season, you know, before he went as well as he did with Liam Cohen that first year.
14:26And he's looking good again here. But yeah, I think it's just an interesting case study.
14:31You know, sometimes not, not the best to chase these young quarterbacks right out of the gate and your startups here.
14:37Yeah. We had a theory for a little while.
14:40Me and Big Co was just like, kind of let the rookies, let the rookie quarterbacks be somebody else's problem and we'll
14:46buy them later if we need to, we'll buy them on the rebound or just get the knowns.
14:52Yeah. And I think I might be kind of wandering on back to that.
14:56Like Lamar was disrespected. And this is now Lamar wasn't great.
14:59And that's actually where we're going next. Yeah. As far as at the end of that game, but week one, he was great.
15:06Missing some weapons. Lamar was a known and we've cast him aside.
15:10It's for the new hot this. So anyway, the Saints put together another great second half to beat Baltimore at home here
15:16and kind of did the same show, kind of were abysmal in the first half.
15:21And then the second half, you know, two weeks in a row now looked great.
15:25That leads me to two questions and we'll talk about both of them of we'll take Shuck first and then we'll go
15:32to Olave and ET will be in the back part of the episode as far as kind of panic, patience, buy low sort of conversation.
15:39So let's start with Shuck. And I know we just did a whole soliloquy about rankings, but this isn't moving him super high.
15:46But like from what we've seen over the first two games of Shuck and we do have a little rushing floor.
15:52Shuck and Baker were two guys that just like you were saying in your startup strategy were two guys that I was
15:59plucking a lot of Baker, Shuck, golf, Dak, Purdy a little earlier if you wanted to have, you know, a little bit
16:05higher standard of what you think the quarterback play could be.
16:09But has Shuck raised the bar at all for you?
16:12Has he surpassed? Let's let's call it a Baker Mayfield.
16:15Yeah, yeah. And I think Baker's had a pretty rough start to the season.
16:19It's unfortunate to see, you know, a book Godwin, both those guys not not scored as much as I think a lot of people had hoped.
16:27But yeah, I think I think Shuck is looking really good.
16:30I like the system he's attached to. I like the weapons around him.
16:34I like it even more when Jordan Tyson's back on the field.
16:37And so, yeah, I'll take Shuck over Baker right now.
16:40Okay. In that same vein, we just talked about Jared Goff.
16:44We both, I feel like, are very comfortable with him.
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16:55Would you rather have right now Jared Goff or Shuck?
16:58It hurts my soul, but no, I'm going to hold firm on this one.
17:02And I will acknowledge I am materially higher on Jared Goff than I think the entirety of the Dynasty community.
17:08You might as well make me a Jared Goff t-shirt and I can wear it for the next show.
17:14But it's like here and here's the reason, Casey, and I'll keep it short.
17:18Predictability. Okay. I've got four top 10 finishes in a row with zero rushing upside from Jared Goff.
17:23I feel great about that. I feel so good about that.
17:27On top of that, every single one of his major weapons is young and most likely going to stay in the building for the long haul.
17:34Jameer Gibbs, Amonraal St. Brown, Jameson Williams, all already under extension.
17:38I'm sure Sam Laporte is on the way, right?
17:40And so it's like all those guys, young, not going anywhere.
17:44And if one of them gets hurt, I don't feel like I'm squeezed because there's not only one of them.
17:50Like, I believe in J-Mo to step up. I, you know, I believe in, in Gibbs to keep doing his thing.
17:56And I believe in St. Brown to the nth degree.
17:59Right. And so I think just from that standpoint, like, yeah, I love Shook.
18:03Right. But Jordan Tyson's been dealing with injury. If Olave goes down, I don't know how I feel about Devon Vele, wide
18:10receiver one, even though he's looked good. Yeah. You know, I don't know if I, how I feel about wide receiver one and then tight end Juwan Johnson.
18:18Right. And like HN, ETN, what we're calling him these days, not really been a huge factor to start the season as well.
18:25And I know we might touch on that, but that's my reasoning on Goff.
18:29It's going to be a no there, but, but I could see the argument for it.
18:34Right. Like, I'm not going to blame you if you're closer to retooling or rebuilding, if you want to get a little younger there.
18:41Yeah. So generally how my rankings were going for super flex quarterbacks here, it was kind of like I had Baker golf
18:47and I had Jordan love kind of in a, in a tier ish around together.
18:52And then not very far behind those next tier.
18:55I might've had a few players in there, but then I had, um, you know, I had, uh, guys like Shuck Stroud
19:01and ward sort of in the next tier. I think for me, Shuck has jumped out of that tier with those guys.
19:08He'll jump all those guys and he's going to jump Jordan love for me too.
19:12Well, that's what I was just about. That was kind of why I was bringing up those tears was cause like, for
19:19me, what I've seen, I've already just love is a, is a fine QB too.
19:23I don't want to have to count on them necessarily.
19:26He's just, and their offensive line has not been good.
19:29And we, and we'll talk a little bit of Packers in a minute.
19:33Um, but I, I agree. I would have to say I would move Shuck up and I would move love to the back of that line.
19:41I don't think I would teardrop love just yet.
19:44Um, but I would certainly move Shuck up to near the front of that line.
19:48I'd probably put Jared at the front, then Shuck, then Baker, then love.
19:52Um, so, but he, they haven't none of Dak has come out and played really well.
19:57You wouldn't put Dak, you wouldn't put any of those guys necessarily ahead of Dak or Shuck ahead of Dak for the conversation here.
20:04I don't, I, I'm not going to lie. I'm higher on golf than I am on Dak.
20:09And I know that's like not a popular opinion in the dynasty community at all.
20:13I just, again, it's, it's like, you know, I was talking about it earlier in the show here.
20:19I must show me, don't tell me. And if you pull up the stats from the last few years, just golf has been more consistent, more available.
20:27And I also still trust the weaponry in Detroit more than I trust the Cowboys.
20:31You know, I like Javante, but that last year was his first real good year and without injuries.
20:37Right. And like, I like lamb and I like Pickens, but you know, like those guys have also had their injury struggles
20:43in the past, especially CD lamb with the ankles and stuff like that.
20:47And so I just think Detroit's a very deep team.
20:50I trust Dan Campbell a lot. I trust the regime and I think we get lost in, it's not to take us
20:57on a rabbit trail, but I think we get lost in the sauce all the time in fantasy.
21:02Right. We get, we like the players. We like, you know, all this stuff.
21:06This is about real football at the end of the day.
21:10And I trust Dan Campbell. I trust Detroit and I trust that team to put up points on offense.
21:15I've watched it happen year after year after year.
21:18And so I'm going to hang my hat on that.
21:21Yeah. I have Dak above those guys just from the ceiling perspective of what he can do now.
21:26He's a hair older than golf. I just, I still think just what he can boot, put out from an output standpoint year over year.
21:34And again, you know, yeah, we, we may lose GP.
21:37We'll see what happens, but I do have him a little bit ahead of those guys.
21:41And then, so generally though, we're not even close to the Brock Purdy, right?
21:46He's still, he's, he's starting to really show himself a large amount of separation from these guys.
21:51Cause I've, I've, I've got Purdy ranked up in the third round right now.
21:55So yeah, no. And it just comes down to what I was talking about, Casey.
21:59It's, it's your, it's your 49ers. It's here to, you know, like I trust Shanahan.
22:04Yeah. I like Purdy a lot, but I also would trust Mac Jones in that system.
22:09Like I trust Kyle Shanahan to put points on the board.
22:12And he does every year, even with like a half team of all IR people and people walking off the street.
22:18So yeah. All right. Well, let's move to Shucks partner in crime right now.
22:22Alave is just red hot in those streets. And obviously, you know, the volume is going to continue to be there.
22:29Vale is, is getting his Juwan is getting his.
22:31We'll see what happens when Tyson comes back. I think that mostly just hurts Vale, you know, a little bit as, as long as he can be healthy.
22:40But generally with Chris Olave, like we'll start off a little low and we'll see kind of how high we get here
22:46because what we're seeing is we're giving praise to Shuck.
22:49We're giving in a way praise to Kellen Moore.
22:52Right. But the idea is, Hey, we don't quite trust the amount, the amount of system around him or amount of players
22:58around him is kind of where your head and framing is at.
23:02Right. It's a lava. And then, you know, we like Juwan and Vale looks good, but it's nowhere near kind of what
23:09you're talking about from a golf standpoint. For sure.
23:11But if we talk about a lava, has he, has he leaped Garrett Wilson in your opinion?
23:16Uh, I look, I do Ohio state guys, right?
23:19Like they're both super talented. I mean, that's cool.
23:22It just puts out top tier receiver prospects. I think they're neck and neck for me, like back to back.
23:28I hate to sit on the fence here, but it's like, I just don't care.
23:32Like if I was in a startup draft and I had to choose, I just, I'm not trading up a pick to get one over the other, right?
23:41Like I'm just going to take whoever falls to me.
23:44So I think from the short-sighted view, you could like Shuck in the volume going to, um, Olave better.
23:49But as soon as next year, we could be seeing something and Gino seems fine, right?
23:54Yeah. Gino's doing fine. And then when that's kind of the way I felt about all the jets, generally they're, they're going
24:01to be fine enough for fantasy where I don't have to regret the pick necessarily.
24:05Um, but Shuck and Olave have, have risen to a different level.
24:09I could, I could give Olave the nod. I know Garrett Wilson's a little younger.
24:13Would you, if you're putting, you're putting those two kind of the similar, and I don't know where you fall on any of these guys.
24:21So has, has Olave gotten to a Tett McMillan level of value for you?
24:25So, so look, I'm looking at my rankings right now.
24:28I still have Tett above him. Um, but it's by one spot Casey.
24:32So it's not a massive difference. I think I just, he's a bit younger and I still love the prospect profile and
24:38man, I mean, Bryce Young keeps playing like he started the season here.
24:42I know we'll talk about it in a little bit.
24:45We're going to have a different conversation about Tett McMillan.
24:48But, uh, yeah, I got him very close. Okay.
24:51And then obviously Drake has had a very slow start to the season.
24:55And, but again, we shouldn't be making large swathing adjustments off of a terrible environment.
24:59Now he has survived a pretty bad environment throughout his career.
25:02We know when we've seen glimpses of a decent environment, he's up there with some of the best in the league.
25:09So we're not worried about, and we wouldn't, would we would, or would we jump that of just saying, Hey, I kind
25:15of know what I have in Chuck. Now, uh, the volume that if, if, if Drake gets a lava is volume, how much better even is he?
25:23Well, yeah, no. And that's a great question. And look, I know where it's early in the season.
25:29So I don't want to like be, you know, suggesting people make generational trades here.
25:33Right. And, and, you know, throw their roster into a, into a whirlwind.
25:37But just the first thing that comes to my mind with what you're saying there is like, if it's me and I
25:43can play the market in my league right now, I have zero problem taking Drake London and going quote unquote down to
25:50Chris Alave and getting something coming back to me.
25:53Like, even if it's a small case at this point, if an offer came to me tomorrow of I'm sending Drake London
25:59and a 27, two for Chris Alave and a 27, one, like that's a smash except for me.
26:05Right. It's just a pick swap. And it's like, I think that's the level of closeness that we're at today.
26:11Now clip me, you know, come back week nine.
26:13If Alave is falling off the cliff and Drake London's heated up with Michael Penix and you guys can clown me all over the internet.
26:21But I do think, I do think that that's a fair argument to make today.
26:25Yeah. And now if, you know, if you're more on the competitor side than the Alave looks good for you right now,
26:32if you're, if you're a little bit more in the middling rebuilding, you get a year of difference in Drake London.
26:38And I think if you got, if you got a competent quarterback play, even if Penix comes back, I think they're kind of very similar.
26:46So I think you would, you would still skew Drake in that regard.
26:49So I like that. All right. Moving on just a call back to last week.
26:54We asked if Parker Washington could be a top 12 wide receiver, but we were unsure if he was for sure the
27:00Jaguars wide receiver one, have we now confirmed it?
27:03It's gotta be a yes. Right. I mean, he just looks like the guy in that system.
27:08Trevor looks his way often. He looks a lot more comfortable.
27:12I mean, even in a loss, got seven catches, 98 yards.
27:15I mean, that was quiet. I felt quiet. It felt quiet and it looks good.
27:19And I think that's the thing, right? It's like, it's the eye test too, Casey.
27:24It's like, he just looks so confident out there.
27:26He's creating separation. He looks clean running his routes.
27:29Every time the ball's in his hand, he's looking for yak opportunity.
27:33I mean, this is a guy that's playing with poised confidence, like looks motivated as hell to be out there.
27:39So yeah, I think he's jumped BTJ comfortably here.
27:41And I think I'd be remiss to say otherwise that Parker Washington is the definitive wide receiver one in Jacksonville.
27:47I don't think, I don't think there's an argument anymore.
27:50I think all the ADP things in the off season.
27:53I felt like Jacoby, I felt like there would be a lot more kind of round Robin of target distribution, but it's all going Parker Washington's way early.
28:02So apologies to anybody. I may have said in live drafts or anything of like, how can you take Parker?
28:08And we, we kept seeing it every once in a while, somebody would go, you know, redraft or whatever six fifth round Parker Washington.
28:15Oh man, that seems really high. And then all of a sudden that doesn't seem so high anymore.
28:20He's looking like great value in the seventh round of your dynasty startup, which I said was too high a couple of months ago.
28:27But I think like not to tease too many shows coming up this season, but if you need a reason to come
28:34back, I think this conversation is getting real spicy in a couple of weeks here, Casey, when we started diving into the
28:40true market movers and how ballsy you're starting to feel and it's like, where are you now comfortable tearing off of to
28:47get to Parker Washington with something coming back? Right.
28:50Like I just talked about the Drake London thing.
28:52Like, it's like, are we going to start creeping into the realm of like, okay, if I send Garrett Wilson, like, will
28:59I take Parker Washington and a throw in piece?
29:02Like what is that throw in piece have to be?
29:05I don't know. Just a food for thought for the future folks.
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30:32Compatibility and availability varies 18+. We started off with Jaden Daniels.
30:35We got sidetracked with a little Seahawks talk. But let's pause it right here.
30:40And we'll go. JSN had the hat trick, right?
30:42Yeah. And is he just... Is he the wide receiver one overall?
30:46Stan, I know you're a Seahawks fan. So you're trying to be, you know, slightly objective here, I suppose.
30:51Or maybe not. Yeah, I mean, well, like, I try to be as objective as possible, you know, and I like to think I fully am.
30:59But JSN was my wide receiver one in Dynasty last season.
31:02And he remains my wide receiver one. And I know maybe it was rash to throw him right above Chase and everything.
31:09But it's just like, I get a front row seat.
31:12I watch every Seahawks game three times over in the slow-mo.
31:15I watch all the tape. I love it. I even watch the defensive tape, you know?
31:20And like, this is just a guy that is completely unstoppable.
31:23He's quarterback proof. You know, I think like that's the only thing you can make the argument.
31:28Like, Jamar Chase has struggled in the past when Burrow goes out.
31:32And JSN has not skipped a beat. Drew Locke comes in.
31:35And the man is setting records. I mean, he goes out this week nine for 155, three touchdowns, you know?
31:41And he just is unstoppable. He's absolutely unstoppable. So he's young.
31:45He's got everything you could ever want in a Dynasty asset.
31:48You know, a big reason I had him as Dynasty wide receiver one going into the season.
31:53Casey was the minute he signed that contract. I looked at, you know, the entire details here.
31:58And for those of you that don't know, he already has a fifth-year option, which he's not on yet.
32:04So this year. Then he has next year his fifth-year option.
32:07The new contract doesn't even kick in until after that.
32:10And you had four years. So for those of you that aren't math majors out there, he's 24.
32:15He's going to be Seattle's wide receiver one until he is minimum age 30, almost 31 years old.
32:21And at that point, I would imagine you've either gotten multiple top 10 finishes out of him, if not wide receiver one finishes out of him.
32:28And it's also just about organizational trust. I talked about Detroit earlier.
32:32Like, I see the building blocks in Seattle. You know, like this is one of the youngest rosters in the NFL.
32:38Devin Witherspoon, Byron Murphy. Like, you know, I could go on and on and on.
32:43But it's like, I think the Seahawks are going to be competitive for a long time.
32:48And I think JSN is going to be competitive on the Seahawks for a long time.
32:52Why would I not draft him as my top wide receiver?
32:56Yeah, I mean, coming into the season, I got Chase 106, JSN 107, and Pugo at 108.
33:01Right. So they're all I got them all together in a tier there.
33:05But I certainly cannot make an argument for JSN not being the overall wide receiver one right now.
33:10QB proof is a very good thing. But I would I would just recall this back and then we can move on
33:16as just kind of in the beginning of the conversation that we were having.
33:21We were talking about moving quarterbacks too fast and then, you know, maybe being on patient with other players quickly.
33:27And like there is a swath of people out there who had JSN and let them go because they didn't like for
33:33whatever reason they were grew impatient that the usage was bad.
33:36The environment was bad. They were misplacing. Waldron had this all wrong.
33:40And now we got a screen plan. Screen passes to the flat was not the formula.
33:45OK, it was not the formula. Dude, I just, you know, and it was, you know, this is Dynasty and it's patience.
33:51And it's something that we try to preach as much as we can.
33:55And sometimes maybe it's too much patience, but I'd rather have too much than not enough in this scenario.
34:01I know it's not cool or trendy or fun to talk about, but in a lot of those cases, especially JSN, it
34:08has worked out well to say, hey, pump the brakes.
34:10It'll be all right. That was bad usage. It was misusage.
34:14And here we are talking about him as, you know, almost undoubtedly the wide receiver one right now or where we've kind of started in the season.
34:22So, all right, from somebody who we needed to have a little bit more patience from to somebody who we didn't need a whole lot of patience from.
34:30And now we've had to have a whole lot of patience from and a lot of people have sort of just disowned this man.
34:37Deshaun Watson comes out and has a very respectable game for the Cleveland Browns after a very poor showing week one, although
34:44there were a few OK passes down the stretch at the end of that game.
34:48And week one comes out, kind of takes the layups, moves the ball around, doesn't do anything crazy, doesn't turn it over.
34:55You didn't want a whole lot of head scratching plays from Watson, which was but and there could be so many different
35:02reasons how and why Watson was playing the way he was.
35:05One, well, there was a lot of injuries, too.
35:07There was obviously just a dark cloud of whether agreed or not agreed.
35:11I don't know how anybody could agree, but generally with what took place from a human being standpoint was not great.
35:18And that seems to at least have sort of dissipated somewhat where it's not at the forefront of every conversation.
35:24Now, of course, it still will be there, but that's kind of gone away.
35:28And he seems relatively healthy. Munkins kind of put a little belief in him.
35:32There was obviously ability there. So how much are we buying into Deshaun Watson here after this one resurgence here?
35:38Or is this an immediate sell stand? This is an immediate sell for me.
35:42But again, I think it's just in general. I want very few pieces of the Browns offense now outside of Denzel Boston,
35:49who I think hopefully we're going to talk about a little bit here, has shown some nice flashes early.
35:54Really liked him at the University of Washington. Thought he was NFL translatable.
35:58That being said, I'll take almost anything I can get for Deshaun Watson.
36:02Like, I think if I can add a third to Deshaun.
36:05Oh, yeah. Yeah. Take Kirk? I would, but it's because I trust Kubiak.
36:09And I hate to turn it back to real-life football every single time, but that's what we play, right?
36:15Fantasy is just the output of that. And the Raiders look good through two games.
36:19So, yeah, I'll take Cousins. Yeah, and you could, I kind of threw him in there first just because, you know, you
36:26could kind of see their plights of both of them having to go kind of playing for something else next year for
36:33probably not being on the respected teams that they're on.
36:36Kirk started a little hotter. Deshaun, you know, it's the Browns.
36:39But all right. So Geno Smith or you would take Geno?
36:42I'd take Geno. Yeah. Okay. How about J.J. McCarthy?
36:45No. No. No. No, sir. I just. I'm with you.
36:48I'm with you on all those. I'm with you on all those.
36:51You go to Carson Wentz, like, before you're going to your first round pick, I think I'm just, I'm good on that one.
36:58Okay. So you mentioned Denzel Boston. I have Casey ranked ahead of Denzel coming into this, but I was very firm on how much I like Denzel Boston.
37:07And to, again, have patience with where the Browns are going, because I like to use your phrase.
37:12You see the building blocks right now to where the Browns are.
37:16If we could just get QB play this, this offense elevates to a level.
37:20We haven't seen. This is a Jacksonville and waiting if they can get the right environment in place, I think.
37:26And so Denzel Boston, like right now I had him ranked, you know, slightly below like A.J.
37:31Brown, Devonta Smith, Jalen Waddle. Would you trade any of those players for Boston currently?
37:35No, I don't think I'm there yet, but there's definitely a range right underneath that that I feel very comfortable exploring Denzel Boston trades for.
37:43I think that's like the Alec Pierce's of the world, the Jameson Williams of the world.
37:47Like those guys are firmly in the conversation for me.
37:50Okay. And Parker Washington? No, I'll hold Parker Washington.
37:53Okay. Parker Washington is too low in my rankings right now, but I haven't adjusted him yet.
37:58So, yeah, I'm right there with you. So I wanted to get a little.
38:02Has Boston surpassed? And I don't know if he already had.
38:06Has he surpassed KC for you? Yes. And I had him neck and neck in my rookie rankings.
38:11I will say, and I hate to be this guy, I trusted Denzel Boston's prospect profile a bit more, but I watched a lot more Denzel Boston.
38:19And so that's the issue, right? I'm a University of Washington guy.
38:23So I got to watch every snap from Boston.
38:25Now, I still watch plenty of tape on all the prospects coming out, but I didn't exactly watch end-to-end games of KC Concepcion.
38:32And so for that reason, I liked Boston more.
38:35Now, I still had Concepcion higher because I do trust all the other scouts out there and what I had seen and
38:41potentially some of the gadget usage that could have been employed there and everything.
38:46But I think what we've seen so far, and it's reactionary, but Denzel Boston seems to have a bit more of a
38:52translatable skill set for what the Browns are doing right now.
38:55Yeah. I always kind of put it as easier.
38:58He's going to be the de facto one, but it doesn't mean that KC can't lead in volume.
39:04Right? Yeah, and I think that once, and this is why so much needs to be figured out in Cleveland, right, KC?
39:10It's like if you get a good quarterback there and you start having guys that can have PPR floors and the quarterback
39:17can start dishing and actually rack up those pass attempts, yeah, KC Concepcion could very quickly jump that, right?
39:22Just from a floor perspective. And Boston becomes kind of the X or the touchdown upside, heavy hitter, deep threat.
39:28And those guys are going to have hot and cold games.
39:32But at least from where we are today, I prefer Denzel Boston, yes.
39:35Yeah, and I'm looking at my rankings right now.
39:38And I know I've been, you know, hey, don't make too many moves, but Brian Thomas got to be a big, got
39:45to be a big adjustment, maybe even right after this show.
39:48So, all right. Carolina Panthers put up another 30 spot this week, this time in a win.
39:53But we talked about it a little bit last week.
39:56The funnel to Coker and Tet continues. And you had mentioned it kind of to leave the show off.
40:02Bryce Young seems to be kind of picking up where he left off last year.
40:06Now, again, they lost in the first week to the Bears and they, you know, they beat up the Falcons, which they tend to do, it seems.
40:14But where are we standing with Bryce? Because he was somebody who I was just very on the fence with.
40:20Let me check out my ranking here. Looks like, you know, kind of got him right around Daniel Jones, Sam Donald, Kyler Murray.
40:27So, if we kind of pick up where we've been putting down for the rest of this episode, Bryce Young or let's
40:34just put it Bryce Young or Daniel Jones. Are you believing in the breakout that we're seeing from Kyler?
40:39So, Bryce Young or Daniel Jones? I thought Daniel Jones looked a lot better week two than week one.
40:45He did look a lot better. I think I'm going to take Bryce Young here.
40:49And it's recency bias for sure. I was very low on Bryce Young a few months ago.
40:55But, you know, it's a contract year, man. These contract years, like money talks, players really start putting their head together.
41:01And I think Bryce is out there saying, I got to earn my spot in this league and prove I can be a guy.
41:08And you're starting to see some Alabama Bryce, as Shev would say.
41:12Old Bama Bryce has looked. He looks confident, right?
41:14And that's just so big in any position, but the quarterback position especially.
41:18Unfortunately, we haven't really been able to see Sam Darnold and Kyler in there.
41:22But would you be interested in swapping Bryce out for either of those two guys?
41:27I think I'm still going to hold Sam Darnold.
41:29That's my Seahawks fandom shining through. But not really.
41:32I think, you know, what a lot of people forget.
41:35And I know it's fantasy football, right? So these points didn't matter for you.
41:39But when Sam Darnold put his I'm going to be super serious hat on at the end of the year last year,
41:46he had zero turnovers in the playoffs and looked lights out doing it.
41:50Right. And that's a huge reason the Seahawks won the Super Bowl.
41:53And we haven't seen Sam Darnold to start the year this year, which is unfortunate.
41:58Right. I think I was very excited to see what a continuous system looked like for Sam Darnold.
42:03I mean, I know you lose Kubiak, but the same team, the same weapons, the same receivers, you're building rapport in that
42:10room for the first time in your career, really, where you have some stability here.
42:14And I still think Sam Darnold is a great talent.
42:17He just hasn't had any continuity in his career and the ability to really set that foundation and then build from it.
42:24And so I think you were starting to see that in the playoffs last year.
42:28And then with no Kenneth Walker in the building and Zach Charbonnet recovering from the injury and a rookie running back being
42:35in the room, I did think Brian Flory was going to say, hey, Sam, air the ball out.
42:40Right. So I'll go Sam Darnold there. But yeah, Bryce Young, he's looking really good.
42:45And I think it's going to be very interesting to watch how the rest of this year goes.
42:50I mean, some very notable things for Bryce Young that I liked.
42:54Five of seven on his deep passes yesterday. Looks really good.
42:57161 yards out of those. You know, I think that's a big part of his game.
43:02If he can put that together again, we're talking a different conversation here on Bryce Young.
43:06Yeah, I've been, you know, again, I think it's just the confidence.
43:10We've liked, you know, kind of what the coach can be from an OC perspective.
43:15But I wasn't sure if he was more of a coordinator face or not.
43:19But this has been an OK start to what we've seen.
43:22And I thought they played a hell of a game.
43:25Last time we saw him in 2025 against the Rams, gave him everything they could have.
43:30Coker picked right back up where he was at.
43:32So you would take Sammy D over Bryce Young.
43:35Kyler? I had. I'm going to sit on the fence on this one, Casey, and just say, I don't know, because we
43:42haven't seen Kyler play a single game yet. Like, I want to see Kyler do something in a purple uniform before I'm
43:48going to write him off or not. And you were you're a bit lower on Cam than I was at the start of the season.
43:56But Cam Ward or Bryce Young? It's neck and neck.
43:59And that's crazy to say. But I think I think I'm going to take Bryce Young at this exact moment.
44:05And I know a lot of people are not going to like that.
44:09But I think the reason for that, Casey, is if he keeps playing well and the Panthers re-sign him, well, it looks
44:15like he's got a good system going in Carolina now.
44:18Tet, Coker, like he's starting to get some confidence there.
44:21But if he doesn't and he tests free agency, the odds he lands with a better team than the Titans is high
44:28because you don't have to be that good to be better than the Titans.
44:32Yeah, yeah, it's true. I will say we're not going to get into any Titans or Eagles.
44:37I don't think talk today, but there were glimpses in that game where they got in a rhythm and the Titans were excited generally.
44:44And Cam was putting the ball where it needed to be.
44:47And they had some drives. I will say it looks like my Wondell calls and plays are not looking great to start
44:54the season, although that was a much better showing from Tennessee than we saw week one.
44:59I just got eliminated in a chopped league this week that I run in commission because of Wondell Robinson.
45:04I'm going to put it entirely on that. It's Wondell and Pittman.
45:08You know, I was high on both those guys.
45:11So I punted wide receiver too long and I paid the price dearly.
45:14No Pittman this week. Wondell and another subpar performance and your boys getting chopped case.
45:19Are we are we hanging on? Are we are we hanging on to Stroud instead of instead of Bryce Young?
45:25I'll hang on to Stroud. Yeah, same. Yeah, same.
45:28I'm still I haven't moved. I don't think I'm adjusting Bryce Young just yet from kind of where I had him pre
45:34but I'm feeling more and more confident about it.
45:37It was good to see Daniel Jones kind of bounce back again.
45:40We haven't seen Sam and Kyler and I would still keep Stroud probably a tier ahead of Bryce Young, even though, you know, maybe he's coming for him.
45:49All right. Real quick before we leave the Panthers here by sell hold on on Coker.
45:54You got to be holding them right now. I mean until until Bryce Young gets off this gravy train he's on you just got to ride it.
46:02Yeah, and I don't I just it just feels like like you said, you know, there's it's just going to be a funnel to these two guys.
46:10Waller seems to be getting involved in the red zone right now.
46:13He hasn't been there that long, but I mean just and I think Coker kind of earned it down the stretch last
46:20year and it's nice to see it pick right back up.
46:23And you know, he he saw more targets than or I think he had more yards.
46:28It's the target. No, it's the target volume. I think is where you're at there.
46:32I believe he had nine targets again this week and it's like if you're approaching double digit targets back to back weeks
46:39and you looked good at the end of last season.
46:42You're starting to win me over here that this is a more of a predictable outcome has had some then good catches
46:49in both games right that were that were in big spots where they they needed it.
46:53And Ted out out targeted in this game and out yardage in this game, but Coker out had more receptions through this
47:00game and was one off on target. So really close.
47:03But again, I just see this as a funnel all year.
47:06So I'm buying and holding either one or two of those guys.
47:10The other player in this offense. We saw Brooks go down.
47:13Seems like he's going to be OK. Is Chuba so right now.
47:17Chuba is a hold cell. If you are running back needy, you got to just keep keep playing him because he looks good.
47:23But if I have Chuba on my bench right now and I feel good about my running back room, I'll probably shop
47:30him and take some liquidity there and just say, all right, I don't need the rental because I still don't know if
47:37he's a long term option for you in dynasty.
47:39I don't think he is. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm I think I think if you're a competitor, I feel like he's he's
47:46going to be solid for you most most of the year here.
47:49And again, if this train kind of keeps rolling and this offense can be just decent all year, then I think he'll be a very viable option.
47:57So sort of for you. The question is, does Bryce Young keep throwing touchdowns at the rate he's throwing him at?
48:04Because fun little nugget for you. I read this earlier today, Casey.
48:07Back to back three touchdown games to open the season has only been done one other time in Panthers franchise history.
48:14So Bryce Young, he's doing some good stuff right now.
48:17And if that that keeps rolling, then I'm going to be hard pressed to be selling any of these.
48:22Right. Exactly. All right. A couple more things before we get to the kind of panic meter buy sell stuff here.
48:28And again, that may be on a separate episode.
48:31So don't be alarmed if this episode just sort of ends.
48:34We didn't talk about the Chiefs last week. And obviously, they caught another primetime game here.
48:39And, you know, I want to I felt like the Chiefs.
48:43Obviously, you get fatigue over a team. And if the Seahawks stay good, we'll get fatigue over them, too.
48:48We've seen it in the past. Unfortunately, they're very good right now.
48:52But I thought what we saw, what we've seen, the idea of the Chiefs from the offseason and then come in and
48:58execute exactly sort of what we've been talking about at the FFD all offseason of just like, hey, there has been no
49:05threat of a run game for so long. And they kind of then were now relying on a defense.
49:11Well, now they're a really young team. Spags is still there.
49:14Defense is still very capable. But what we saw from Patrick from game one to game two was excellent.
49:20There was a throw to Xavier Worthy in that game that he ended up dropping, but was an absolute missile.
49:25And, you know, Tirico was given Collinsworth a bit of a hard time about it through through the you know, he's like, go ahead, go ahead.
49:33But what I just saw from them is just what Patrick Patrick has had to put this team on his back for
49:40offensively through the last couple of seasons. Obviously, after we saw him and the enemy leave with Tyreek, it's been it's been a little bit different ballgame.
49:48And Patrick has taken a lot of bullets, especially from a lot of the fantasy spreadsheet guys.
49:53It's just like, well, he's his deep ball accuracy.
49:56And what he threw some deep balls last night that look pretty damn accurate to me.
50:00And it's just like it changes the math when the Chiefs are actually going to come out here and stick to a
50:07run game, take the easy check downs to the back.
50:10And now, oh, look, all of a sudden now this receiving core that everybody was killing.
50:15It's like, oh, they're fine. They're just fine. And their rookie, Emma Johnson, looks great.
50:19Kelsey looks like he went from being, you know, gotten gotten to a good shape for the for the wedding, for the tux fitting there.
50:27And looks good. So what is your take on?
50:29And we'll do a little bit of Kenny Walker rankings, but I just wanted to get a general.
50:35I was Patrick Mahomes was a buy for me all the last two years.
50:39Right. And, you know, comes out and the over under the what we saw before the game was like 200 yards on DraftKings.
50:46And that basically hadn't done that in four games.
50:48And then he comes out and puts up 384 in this one or whatever it was.
50:53And I just I just I love seeing that.
50:56Hey, we committed to the run. Now. Now you have this dynamic player who just doesn't have to carry it.
51:02But I think it just get for so long.
51:05You could just play the shell against them. That was just like, hey, we know kind of what's coming.
51:10They're not going to run the ball. And now it's completely changing everything.
51:14And I just feel like as much as I want to hate the Chiefs, I can I can appreciate good football.
51:20A hundred percent. No, I couldn't be more with you on this one in the sense that I feel very vindicated on
51:27my Chiefs takes all offseason, even though, like like you said, you know, they're an easy team to hate.
51:33So it's like, damn, the Chiefs are so good again.
51:36But like, yeah, Mahomes, just just for for public knowledge, I had him as Dynasty QB five all offseason.
51:41He's still sitting on my rankings as Dynasty QB five.
51:44KTC has him at 12. Sleeper had him at 11 going into this year, you know, on Superflex quarterbacks.
51:50So like, you know, materially higher than the community was Patrick Mahomes.
51:53But I think it's just, you know, we talked about it several times this show.
51:58Like I watch football. I know how good Patrick Mahomes is.
52:01Like sometimes I know the fantasy stats aren't always going to get out there.
52:05And like you said, these Excel number crunchers, like sometimes that just doesn't matter.
52:10You know, like give me the eye test to give me the what I know is true.
52:15And I know Patrick Mahomes is a top talent.
52:17So yes, Patrick Mahomes is fantastic. He looks great.
52:20Secondly, real quick. Yeah, I'm just seeing I got QB six for my for me.
52:25So I'm right there with you, man. So, you know, great minds, Casey.
52:28Great minds. Yeah, great minds. Also knew Kenneth Walker was an absolute dog.
52:32It was being kept down in Seattle. And look, I love my team.
52:36I've been glazing the CX. So you guys can roast me in the comments.
52:40But like, well, I will be critical of my team.
52:43I was very upset about the non signing of Kenneth Walker.
52:47I felt we had the cap space to do it.
52:50I wanted to see him come back. And I really wanted to see this team let him take the training wheels off
52:56because they kept him at bay for so long.
52:59And that playoff run was like me opening Christmas presents and being like, oh, this guy who I've been sitting on the
53:05Internet telling people is a top five running back talent is a top five running back talent and led them to a
53:12Super Bowl and won a Super Bowl MVP. And then to start the year this year, I mean, you know, anyone can
53:19get out here and pedal stats at you. But like 24 of 29 carries last night.
53:23He had 10 targets, caught six passes on that.
53:26Like he is an utter workhorse. He is unequivocally a top five fantasy running back at this point.
53:31And Casey, one last thing I wanted to point out, because, again, real life football matters so much.
53:37And when the game went to overtime, OK, the final overtime drive, three straight carries to Kenneth Walker before that big catch.
53:43Like, I just think that screams volumes to me, Casey.
53:46It's like, who do you want to give the ball to?
53:50You give the ball to Walker over and over and over again.
53:53And I think they're going to ride him until the wheels fall off.
53:57And like, yeah, if you own him in fantasy, you're not you're not plucking him off my lineup for anything right now.
54:04No. And we'll we'll hit a couple of rankings before we get out of here with Kenny Walker here.
54:09But, you know, there was some some today some clips floating around of a we want to get involved and we'll take a little load off of Kenny.
54:18And I think that's being misconstrued. You know, people are, wow, it's going to go back to 50 50.
54:23Like they paid Kenny. He's great. Like they love what they're seeing in Emmett Johnson.
54:28That's great. You should take a little bit of load off of Kenny.
54:32But, you know, last last night we saw these couple of drives with with Emmett Johnson and there was still plenty of volume for Kenny.
54:39So I wouldn't be terribly scared off of that.
54:42Shout out to the FFD boys and Chev and Jeremiah.
54:45We were we all loved Emmett Johnson through the offseason.
54:48And, you know, sometimes it pays off. Sometimes it does.
54:51Sometimes it's Caleb Johnson. Sometimes it's Emmett Johnson. But he looks great.
54:54I thought Di Mercado would have this job there as the two.
54:58And he he he run ran him off. But he looks awesome.
55:02And, you know, it's unfortunate that, you know, Kenny Walker looks so good that we're probably going to be delayed on any
55:08Emmett Johnson value unless, you know, we get the unfortunate injury.
55:11But still great to have that kind of bullet in your holster there.
55:15So shout out Emmett Johnson and the boys for that one.
55:19But let's do some some Kenny Walker kind of last we've been doing throughout this episode here.
55:24So, yeah, I had him sort of right in line with a Travion in Dynasty around the fifth round in line with Travion Chase Brown.
55:31I had Bucky Irving very high and that's looking good right now.
55:35But like kind of in that range at this point, though, I mean, he's blown way past those guys.
55:40I mean, obviously, he's 25 will be 26. But is is he is he in the likings of Jonathan Taylor and James Cook right now?
55:48Has he earned enough in your mind dynasty wise to be like, hey, I'm up on this pedestal with these bona fide workhorses right now?
55:55Well, look, I know I'm a Seahawks fan. So, again, I had a front row seat to Kenneth Walker.
56:01This is from before the season. All right. I'm looking at a screenshot I have here from my player rankings before week one.
56:08I had Kenneth Walker at RB nine and Dynasty, which I took some flack for.
56:12I had him above Chase Brown, Brees Hall, Saquon Barkley, like Chris McCaffrey, you know, Judkins, Kyron, all of them.
56:18Right. And the only, you know, tier that I had him right below was he was at the top of this tier.
56:25And the break above him was James Cook, Jonathan Taylor and Amari and Hampton.
56:29Those are the next three in line. I would say comfortably right now.
56:33And in it's not even a question for me.
56:36I'm taking him ahead of JT and James Cook.
56:38So if a startup happened tomorrow, he's now at the top of that tier.
56:42And I think genuinely now looking at those rankings and that screenshot again, I got Hampton, Jeremiah Love and Devon Achan.
56:49There's a very real world where I'm taking him above Amari and Hampton.
56:53And I know we're going to talk maybe about the Chargers offense here or in the next episode.
56:58But like, if we're looking at Dynasty rankings now and you've got Gibbs, Bajon, Gentty, Achan, and then Jeremiah Love, you can call it recency bias.
57:06You can call it whatever you want. There's a really good chance I'm just taking Kenneth Walker right after Jeremiah Love there.
57:12Like, I mean, I've seen enough from the Chargers at this point that I'm like, does Jim Harbaugh have the sauce?
57:18Like, does Justin Herbert have the sauce? Like, what's going on in that building?
57:23I might just take Walker over Hampton and say, eh, I'm getting two years older, but this guy's got contract insulation.
57:29He's with Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid. Like, I just don't care.
57:33I want to win a championship. Exactly. Like, I've been very high on Taylor and keeping him that way and being fine
57:39with drafting him, especially, you know, obviously if I'm drafting him, I'm going to be in a, I'll put myself in a position to be competitive.
57:47You're not drafting him to, you know, sort of productive struggle your way into anything necessarily.
57:52So you're getting a little younger in that regard with the usage that we're seeing.
57:56And, you know, the FFD has always been a Kenny Walker show, even when he couldn't catch.
58:01And even when, you know, this or that, just, hey, this is one of those ones where patience has now paid off
58:08if you've been able to hold Kenny for this long through some injuries.
58:12And now, again, week two injuries happen. But you're mentioning Amari on Hampton.
58:15So you're saying generally right now, if we had the swipes up on the screen, you would take Kenny Walker over Hampton.
58:22Yeah. And again, I know that everyone is going to think this is all reactionary.
58:27No, I watched Kenneth Walker for years and I would have told you even at the beginning of this year before the
58:33offseason that from a talent perspective, I've seen Kenneth Walker do things on the football field that I've never seen Amari at Hampton do.
58:40And that doesn't always mean that you're going to be the most efficient back out there.
58:45There was plenty of times I knocked Kenneth Walker for trying to bounce it to the outside when he's already been knocked
58:52six yards back from the line of scrimmage because Seattle's offensive line was Garbo for years.
58:56And then he'd lose another eight yards on top of that when he should have just gone down and taken the four yard tackle for a loss.
59:04But like he's also done that where he bounces it and runs 20 full yards across the field before even going one
59:11yard forward and then gains 15 yards. Right. And it's like that is the level of talent you're playing with.
59:17And it was always going to be, will the situation match it?
59:21Will the role match it? Will they uncork him?
59:23Will the injuries stop? Can he get a good offensive line?
59:27You know, I mean, we talked about at the beginning of the show, Casey, like sports is an amalgamation of a million
59:33different variables and factors that all have to line up correctly.
59:36And I, you know, we might say this is too early to make the claim, but it looks like Kansas City is
59:43that perfect mixture that you needed for Kenneth Walker.
59:46Right. You've got an elite quarterback. You've got a great play caller.
59:49You've got a good offensive line with one of the best centers in the game.
59:54And, you know, like this is I still have pain from the Seahawks not drafting Creed Humphrey because he was the number
60:00one center on my board and we passed him and we ended up going with all the Timmy or whatever.
60:06Who's now a backup riding pine all to be said.
60:09Look, I'm with you. I think at this point and again, reactionary, but I think there's no reason that Kenny Walker shouldn't
60:16at least be up there with with the cooks and the tailors.
60:19If we're, you know, with this sort of usage and I mean, the talent was never different.
60:24It was just, are we going to be healthy?
60:27Are we going to get this usage? We're seeing it.
60:30It's there. And then on the other, like the receiving part of this, you know, and were they going to throw him
60:37the ball and throw it in the ball? Right, right.
60:40They're sticking. They paid him and they're sticking to exactly what they said they were going to do, which we've kind of had some questions answered now.
60:48Emmett may mix in there and that's fine. There's not that many situations where that James Cook gets somebody mixed in with him.
60:55Hampton gets somebody mixed in with him. Taylor gets somebody mixed in sort of.
60:59So how about HN? And I had HN, you know, as the fourth RB off the board this year.
61:04Obviously, it's not going so well in Miami right now.
61:07I think they'll figure it out. They got him plenty of volume this week, even though it didn't work out.
61:13And I think there'll be better days ahead for HN.
61:16Would you take Kenny Walker over HN? I don't think I would.
61:20I think it's I think I'd still slightly lean HN.
61:23But what I will say, and I know now we're getting into the nitty gritty of it is like this is the same argument.
61:30I think I would go back to the Drake London thing for like it might be as close as a one to pick swap.
61:37Like if I could go HN in the second for Walker and a first, I think I'm doing that.
61:43I mean, I'd love to do Walker in a first for HN just purely.
61:47And I think you would have gotten that deal done comfortably in the three weeks ago.
61:52Right. Yeah. Yeah. So I think it depends on how much people are sticking to their offseason rankings right now.
61:58And if you got truthers out there that are like, no, HN still top three back in Dynasty.
62:03Well, then, yeah, send those offers today. I'll congratulate you on Twitter after.
62:07All right. We got like a few minutes here and we'll wrap this one up and then we'll just we'll start a
62:14new show for the next one because we've been running well.
62:17We've been running along. We'll tighten these up. We'll get them a little shorter as we move forward.
62:22But there's so much to talk about right now.
62:25So if the NFL just so interesting. Yeah. All right.
62:28Chargers are just looking like a mess. So we'll save a Jonah Coleman chat maybe for the next conversation.
62:34But let's talk about Herbert and this Chargers team because it still looks bad.
62:38It still looks like a mess. Generally, what is the concern level for the Chargers and Justin Herbert?
62:43It's bad. It's bad. And again, I sometimes feel like this is just a bunch of you and I, you know, peddling victories.
62:50But I was a firm like real quick. Yeah.
62:53If you don't, nobody's going to give. And I don't like doing it.
62:57I'm not going to take a bunch of victory laps.
63:00I'm certainly not going to do it on Twitter.
63:02But like when I'm when we're on the show, you kind of have to allude a little bit to like, hey, and
63:09I'll tell you what I'm wrong, too. It's not for sure.
63:12But you have you have to you know, I don't want to.
63:16I'm wrong all the time. I just got chopped, guys.
63:19I just got chopped. OK, I was all in on one deal.
63:22All right. It didn't happen. But no, I mean, I was a firm like tear off Justin Herbert this offseason.
63:28Like I just I thought his dynasty value was overinflated.
63:31And I know the Harbaugh comments out there getting this man MVPs and whatever is just like, whatever.
63:37I'm a Seahawks fan. I'm not exactly Jim Harbaugh's number one fan either.
63:40So, you know, from my 2010 days, those Niners matchups all being said, like, yeah, I just this Chargers offense is bad.
63:47That's it. Like send tweet like I don't have anything else.
63:50It's a bad offense, Casey. It doesn't look good.
63:53No, and I don't know what the fix is.
63:56I don't I can't put my finger on it.
63:58Herbert just looks bad. Like it just doesn't look good.
64:01And I've been a Herbert defender as far as, you know, last year and propping him up and saying, hey, I think
64:08I think it's going to be fine. I think he was too low.
64:12Now I may have had him a little too high.
64:15I've got him eight right now. I had him eight and coming into the season.
64:19So I really liked him. There's the legs are there.
64:22And I really liked what, you know, obviously I'm a Niners guy, Mike coming in and this offense.
64:28And, you know, obviously that nobody looks good on that.
64:31This looks bad. It doesn't look like a fit.
64:33Doesn't look like it's working. I don't know if Herbert's disinterested or what or they don't vibe or I don't know what
64:40it is, but I can't really put my finger on it.
64:43At least we saw Hampton get a decent volume this week, which maybe put a sigh of relief in that situation.
64:49But hey, look, I mean, the joke bailed out to man.
64:53Like, I think what people are missing is the execution has been awful.
64:57They've had six fumbles, but they've only lost one of them.
65:00Yeah, Casey. Well, then they had the Joku play where he, you know, they threw it to him.
65:05It was an okay throw. And he kind of, you know, just throws it up in the air.
65:11But six fumbles through two weeks and you've only lost one of them.
65:14I mean, Casey, imagine how bad we'd be talking about this offense is if five of those were recovered by the defense.
65:21Like, yeah, you are talking about an absolutely abysmal start to the season when all things considered.
65:26So just to keep the theme of the episode on the way out, basically, we kind of did a lot of rankings
65:33by sell hold sort of stuff here. But are you taking Jalen Hurts over Justin Herbert?
65:37Absolutely. I have stuck by Jalen Hurts' side. I think it's ridiculous that the community hates him so much.
65:43And generally, you know, I don't really understand it.
65:46He's just, you saw yesterday. They needed it. He did it.
65:49You know, and it's just in the spots where you want him to do things he normally does.
65:54And even in the Super Bowl loss in the big, put a ridiculous day up.
65:59So I'm a firm believer in Jalen Hurts. They're going to have their growing pains, too, from a new offensive perspective.
66:05But how about, how about, who else? All right.
66:08Behind them, I have Brock Purdy would be the next quarterback ranked.
66:11Yeah, I'll take Brock. Tearing, tearing down, like, maybe not right this minute, but generally, you could have gotten a first round pick in Brock.
66:19First, I think so. Yeah, for sure. Or at least, you know, like, for the believers, at least you could have gotten a Parker Washington.
66:26You know, you probably could have gotten Parker Washington or Tootin or Waddle.
66:30You know, something like that in between. Absolutely. Would you go as far as a Jackson Dart?
66:35Yeah. Oh, yeah. Call me crazy, Casey, but I'm looking at my preseason screenshot here.
66:40Preseason rankings, I had Jackson Dart at QB6. Jalen Hurts, QB7.
66:43Justin Herbert, QB9. I know that that was maybe preemptive, but I love that Russian upside.
66:48And I just, I was all there. Yeah. I came in very passive on Dart.
66:52I've got him at 401. So he's behind Purdy, Nixon, Lawrence.
66:56Yeah. I mean, I had Dart, Hurts, and Trevor Lawrence all ahead of Justin Herbert.
67:00I had Justin Herbert one spot ahead of Joe Burrow, believe it or not, at QB9.
67:05So that, what would be the lowest? I mean, obviously, if you're going, if you're starting to go that little bit lower
67:11there, you're starting to get pick values back. But like, is there any, is there a, is that about where we would
67:18draw the line of saying, hey, I don't want to go any further than like, Knicks, Purdy, Lawrence, Dart?
67:24No, but I'm a degenerate. And I was out here yelling at you about Jared Goff a minute ago.
67:29And like this offseason, a big thing I preached and I stand by it is I said comfortably, and I made this trade.
67:36Okay. I made this trade. I don't just talk it.
67:39I walk it. I went from Justin Herbert to Jared Goff and Brace Hall.
67:43And I got that deal done and I felt very fine doing it.
67:47And like, I don't feel bad about it today either.
67:50Yeah. Well, I'm very vindicated to start the season.
67:53We'll check back week eight. Yeah. Check. All right.
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