0:00What is good? We're back. We've got some redraft for your pleasure.
0:04We're going to talk about some curious cases of what are we doing and then we're gonna do a little bit of
0:12this or that in this episode of the FFD Fantasy Football.
0:15I got Chev, I got Jeremiah. They're gonna be driving the show on the answer side and I will host this bad Larry.
0:23So, Chev beardless, Jeremiah remains with a beard. So, it's two beards versus one.
0:28Two beards. Two bros, one host. Yeah. I don't have a hat though.
0:32I missed the hat memo today. So, alright. Anyway, let's jump into it.
0:37What are we doing? Chase Brown struggling a little bit right now.
0:41Hasn't gone over the 10 point fantasy mark in three out of the last four games.
0:46Are we benching Chase Brown this week? I accidentally based on Ben's Chase Brown last week.
0:51So, uh, for Kendra Miller. So, it wasn't, you know, it wasn't great.
0:56Yeah. I mean, I don't think you lost, I don't think you lost much in the production.
1:02Nah, I didn't. I didn't. That's the, that's the, that's the saddest part about all this is the fact that you, there's
1:09no distinguishable difference between Chase Brown and a guy like Kendra Miller.
1:13But also, also, we've, we've played this song and dance for the last two years with Chase Brown.
1:19I don't know if he's tapped into the, the Yeti powers that Derrick Henry has.
1:24There's snow on the ground in Vermont or whatever.
1:27Uh, whatever, uh, the fantasy footballers say about Derrick Henry, but like, like in all seriousness, the back half of the season,
1:35he's been 18 points a game for the last seven to nine games of the seasons in 2024 and 2025.
1:422024 was Zach Moss 2025. It was Joe Burrow was gone for a good portion of the season with hammer toe.
1:49And then he comes back and then Chase Brown's just gangbusters, but this feels, this feels different.
1:54Does it not? Yeah, it doesn't feel right. And it's like one of those things where we talk about ain't nothing wrong,
2:02but something ain't right with Chase Brown. And look, you've definitely taken an L speaking of we're in the redraft streets here.
2:09This was a one, two term pick early round to take your stand type of pick.
2:15If you took key and or Marion Hampton across your leagues versus Kenneth Walker, you are feeling the mass effect.
2:21And granted the thing is in real time, you could be the record that you are and in your standings and momentum
2:29can turn on a dime with Chase Brown here.
2:32The next three or four games, he gets the Titans at the Falcons.
2:36The third game is Pittsburgh. So that's a little tough.
2:40And then at the commander. So three of the next four matchups, I think are going to line up for him.
2:47And now he's really backing into because the last two matchups he's gotten actually three of the last four.
2:53He hasn't crested 10 points. So that's just really a huge issue.
2:57And now it's really the guy who was my RB one.
3:01I have to treat him like an RB two or a flex where it's like, hey, can I back into 10 points
3:09and the rest of my lineup can be bananas.
3:12Problem is with the war value aspect of when you selected Chase Brown, you have one less stud on your roster.
3:19So you're battling through it. You're probably up a creek to me where I have him.
3:24I'm going to continue to start him in hopes that it turns around, but you don't necessarily have to love it.
3:31Yeah, I would. I would continue riding him. Like you said, there's some some, you know, you don't want to be like
3:39sunk cost here of, you know, saying that you got to keep going.
3:43But I mean, at this point, I think it will break loose and be at least the floor be closer to 12,
3:5013 points rather than kind of what we were seeing under double digits for a couple of weeks there.
3:57But like you said, you'd have to be hitting with some options of that.
4:02You probably picked up on the waiver wire or picked up somebody, you know, good who's playing well in the back half of the draft.
4:10And like, you know, Ollie Gordon would be somebody who comes to mind of like, you know, hey, if you wanted to
4:18play Ollie Gordon over Chase Brown right now, I don't have a problem with it.
4:23Right. But like you don't have to get super cute.
4:26I don't think here is kind of the way that I would play it.
4:31Like Jonah Coleman, not quite there yet, but he's getting there.
4:34Right. And Seth McGowan, not yet. Jonathan Taylor, as of this recording, as we are speaking right now, traded from the Colts.
4:42So there's a little speculative plays, not there, not yet.
4:45I would still roll out some Chase Brown. Yeah.
4:48All right. So Bo Nix comes back, has a great week against Arizona.
4:53And so is Arizona the slump buster here? Or are you still, I know, I know that, you know, I was hesitant
5:00to start Bo Nix this week, even against Arizona in some spots where it's like I had him and I, I picked
5:08up somebody off the waiver wire to play in front of him just so that I could feel a little more comfortable
5:15about a ceiling, much like we're kind of talking about Chase Brown a little bit.
5:20But QBs in one QBs are a little easier to juggle around and find a streaming option where running back can be,
5:28you know, pretty, pretty tough, especially kind of the climate we're seeing right now.
5:32So is Bo Nix back confident start next week or was, was, you know, the Cardinals just the one you had to,
5:40you had to, you had to get the, the, the, the stench of despair off of you.
5:46And now you can get those pheromones in the right area and, and maybe start attracting new mates.
5:52To quote the great philosophizer, Cameron Anthony Ward, quarterback, the Tennessee Titans.
5:56We asked right now, Bo Nix is still asked.
5:59I mean, 51% completion percentage this past week. It just, it wasn't there as a passer.
6:04It's the 62 yard touchdown run doing a whole lot of the heavy lifting.
6:09And when I saw it, I was like, Oh cool.
6:12It's a good scramble. That's going to boost up his fantasy day.
6:16We might get like a QB one overall performance because this Cardinals defenses, I mean, it is bear out in the woods Sasquatch ass right now.
6:25But, but maybe just maybe, I don't know. Like I said, they drafted Oregon Bo Nix, but Auburn Bo Nix was still in there.
6:33And he was just like, it's like a Dr.
6:36Jekyll, Mr. Hyde situation. And so right now, Auburn Bo Nix is out.
6:41We're getting the worst possible outcome in terms of his output from a fantasy perspective.
6:46And this was the one where it was supposed to be good for everybody.
6:51And it just didn't amount to anything for Jalen Waddle.
6:54It didn't amount to anything for, it was a season high for Cortland Sutton and it was 45 yards.
7:00If you take away, and then you think about it, the 52 yard touchdown pass to RJ Harvey.
7:06Like we can't count on that either. So you're just not seeing, like you want the ethical, you want the ethical hooping points.
7:14Like you want it to look good. You want it to feel good.
7:19And you want to feel like they played good in your fantasy lineup.
7:23And I just don't think that we can make those three, those three assumptions right now with Bo Nix at all.
7:30And it doesn't, it doesn't feel good to say this because I finally had fully bought in.
7:36And I wanted to deny Bo Nix because I watched him at Auburn, but I was like, it's just, you know, it's a perfect situation.
7:44Perfect. But now it's just been enough. It's been bad enough to where I can just be off for a little while.
7:52I'm just taking, I'm just tired. Drafted Bo Nix in a bunch of redraft spots.
7:57I'm, I'm out. I've already dropped him. I sabotaged dropped him.
8:01And he's, he's sitting over there on a waiver wire with Jay Herbo, just waiting for somebody to just drop you a
8:08drop you a 6.27 in your fantasy lineup. So it won't be me.
8:12It won't be the chef GPT. But I mean, you know, don't listen to a 40 year old man with no facial hair.
8:20That's like an adult blonde male. There's that don't, you don't want to listen to them.
8:26That's a Kevin Nealon line from weeds. Jeremiah, you thought about back in on Bo or, or you got a Bo don't know.
8:33Nope. It is not all systems. Bo one bit over under 40 and a half in this chiefs game.
8:40Recall in the first chiefs game week one at Kansas city, 5.44 fancy points.
8:45I imagine he'll crest 10. It's, it's going to get better, but the problem is where it gets good.
8:51It was the Cardinals and we got what was good.
8:54But again, she alluded to the 51% completion percentage.
8:57And it was a bolt on that 62 yard touchdown run.
9:01You lose quite possibly Jalen Waddle. He's getting hurt.
9:04I know he's not been a bonafide star stud.
9:07That's another topic for another day, but you know, it really stinks right now in the funnel through the run game.
9:14I think we're going to start getting a rise from Jonah Coleman and that Broncos backfield, which we have talked about all
9:22off season, how they're going to be profitable. Profitable.
9:25The issue is where it's good for bone Nix.
9:28You may implement because kind of have to, you might need your personal slump buster in some of your lineups with some
9:35of your injury setup, but where he has a slump buster it's in two weeks.
9:40It's when he plays the Carolina Panthers on the road.
9:44And then, oh yeah, I've got bone Nix. Let me just roll them out back to back.
9:50Oh, week 10 by week 11. You think, oh, home versus Raiders.
9:54It surely should be cake. They generate pressure. Okay.
9:57Pressure breaks pipes. As our good friend Dustin says at the Steelers week 12.
10:01Tough. Then we're talking about week 13. Okay. The dolphins, but you see how it goes.
10:07It's all spread out. The schedule just doesn't align for like week over week goodness.
10:12We're not getting the bananas effect of, Hey, you brought in Jalen Waddle.
10:16You're this step closer to being a super bowl contender and making that next leap.
10:21Your bone Nix, you're in that elite territory where it was what first two, three rounds, super flex dynasty startups.
10:28Now that value has completely tanked. So redraft, it stinks.
10:32It's just bad. Yeah. So the smell of, you know, I don't, I guess it's not despair.
10:37It would be a desperation. The reek of desperation is not off of, of bow is what you guys are saying.
10:44But I would say this, you see the scramble get back out there.
10:49Jalen Waddle. I don't know how injured he is.
10:52Almost wonder if Jalen Waddle gets removed and you kind of go back to look, this, this needs to be bows running bows, checking down to RJ Harvey.
11:01That's what needs to start happening. And then things start getting easier for bow Nix back to where we were.
11:08This is what they did. And then you throw it long to, to Troy Franklin or Mims and you get something involved
11:16here and there, you get a little, you know, Ingram looks a little better this year.
11:21It's got to go back to him running around a little bit, taking the check downs to RJ Harvey, let him create in some space.
11:29That's what this offense should be doing. Maybe Sands Waddle and seeing a little rushing last week could maybe jumpstart this thing back.
11:37But I agree. I probably wouldn't go back to the well this week.
11:42Um, all right. Trey Tucker. Is he an auto start right now?
11:46Coming off of two back-to-back huge weeks. He's wide receiver 13 PPR overall right now because he's had three massive weeks.
11:53Um, and you know, the Raiders are potentially looking at some point at a change.
11:58I don't know how that will affect him, but they don't really have a one.
12:03He has certainly emerged as the guy. And really, when you look at it in a PPR setting outside of one week,
12:10you know, where he killed you a week one, the rest of them, the lows are eight, eight and seven, which aren't great.
12:18But like, Hey, I can survive that if he's, if the upsides are going to be those big swings.
12:25So is he somebody that you feel comfortable firing up in the lineup right now?
12:30I'll, I'll let, I'll defer to Jeremiah on this one because he's been, I mean, he was all over that.
12:36That was one of the questions. That was one of the, what are we doing questions or excuse me, this or that last week.
12:45And he was very pointed. So go ahead, man.
12:48You, you absolutely cook. Yeah, man. He's an ethical Hooper as Sheb is saying, and he's absolutely cooking and we don't even
12:55have to play this game of, is it going to be Kirk cousins or is it going to be Fernando Mendoza?
13:02I'm still rolling out a Trey Tucker and beauty is the deeper, the roster, the more confident you feel, obviously that's intuitive, but yeah, I'm rolling him out.
13:12When you talk about a guy who is wide receiver 13 and he has that spike week potential, he's filling in auto into that flex spot.
13:20Unless you have some hammer of a team that's very light on running backs and it's stuffed with receivers.
13:27Sure. But I'm absolutely flexing Trey Tucker. He's an auto start right now.
13:31And how do you not fire him up at the New York jets?
13:36I will live with the volatility. And funny enough, there's a certain player that we live with the volatility plenty.
13:42And we love him so much as Jameson Williams.
13:45Why not afford that from that war value perspective?
13:48Somebody like Trey Tucker now dynasty long-term value, who knows where the wind will blow, but in a redraft streets, it's kind
13:56of mimicking some of the ups and downs. That's my life.
14:00Jameson Williams will show because as you had mentioned, Casey four point game, 22, eight, eight, seven, 26, 21.
14:06You ride them out into the flex. And you just fluctuate.
14:10And when he hits, you're winning your week. Shev Trey Tucker in the lineup.
14:15I'm going back here. Three. Yeah. I mean, if you, I mean, if he's yeah.
14:20Where you got him. So last week we said, try Tucker versus T Higgins, Nico Collins or Luther burden rest of season.
14:27And I'm still going to roll with, I'm still going to roll with T.
14:32I'm still now it's gotten a little, I'm still going to roll with T.
14:37I'm still going to roll with Nico, but Luther even coming off the four for one 38 or whatever it was.
14:44I think I might go Trey Tucker. I think I might go Trey Tucker.
14:48It's going to, I mean, the floor is there.
14:51We're going to, you're going to have volatility either way.
14:55Just let me there. There's going to be points in time where Luther's like the number three option or number, potentially the
15:02fourth option behind whatever they have going on. Trey Tucker is going to be the second option in the passing game.
15:09Pretty much moving forward. Like this is, you know, they're going to toss it.
15:14They're going to, they're going to dump it to Ashton Gentry.
15:18Their Brock Bowers is going to have his massive potentially record setting target share.
15:23And then you've got Trey Tucker and Ashton Gentry battling out for the secondary target.
15:28So yeah, I, I really liked this call. I mean, again, shout out to shout out to Jeremiah.
15:34Coach Shev laugh over there for cooking that one up.
15:37So yeah, I don't really have much to add on that.
15:41Well, and if, if your scripts are going to stay, you know, where you're right.
15:46Stop a nosebleed. Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. How do you feel about this for a playoff schedule?
15:52Denver at home week 15 can go either way, but then Tennessee and at Arizona.
15:57So the, the semifinal and the championship week, even with Fernando Mendoza chucking the ball, especially if there's no trade acquisition for a wide receiver at the deadline.
16:06I love this play. And if you've experienced and had Trey Tucker, you had the enjoyment of that success.
16:13I think part of that is the endowment effect of you have found money and you're like, hell yeah, I'm rolling him out.
16:20And at least for the season. And then all of a sudden it does become at what point do we start having discussions?
16:28And this will be more towards the off season of what you do in dynasty.
16:33Yeah. It's back season for Trey Tucker as well.
16:36So that's part of the reason. Yeah. That's a big part of the reason I want to, I want to ride this
16:44out and see what, see what happens. It's pause.
16:47Yeah. Um, all right. This one's not on the sheet, but I'm throwing it out there.
16:52Um, if, and when Justin, yeah, Justin Timberlake, JT, if, and when Jonathan Taylor gets traded, do you, if you are in
17:00contention and a contending team and have been riding him, do you try to trade him when he gets traded and ride that trade high in?
17:09Cause there's, you know, it may not, we, like, like I said, it may not go.
17:14Oh, like you think it's going to go. How long does it take to get acclimated?
17:19Does it even work? It may not even work right away.
17:23It may take multiple games and then kind of mess your season up.
17:27So as he actually gets traded and the news comes in and somebody in your league is excited about the movement of
17:35Taylor, you know, do you go ahead and redraft and just try to trade out of JT at that point?
17:42Or you just say, Hey, we're here and I'm riding.
17:45Uh, it's, it's going to sound, I mean, it's cop out, but I, it would depend on landing spot.
17:51If they trade, they trade him to Minnesota and they trade one of the running backs, running backs back to the Colts,
17:59whichever running backs there is going to be just basically coach, coach, hold the, hold the balls for Jonathan Taylor.
18:06If they trade, if they trade him to Seattle and they trade Darian price over, you know, back over to the Colts,
18:13like he's going to be, he's, we're going to ride, we're going to ride that out.
18:19If he'd trade, if they trade him to New York, I really, I, that low key could be the most ideal scenario
18:26because there's zero chance that they would trust any of those running backs.
18:30Well, there's zero chance that they would trust Devin Singletary or Cam Scatterbow as much as they would trust Jonathan Taylor.
18:38They're four, two and one. Now, like we've, at some point we have to recognize them as a team that could host
18:45a divisional play, like host a wildcard playoff game because they went in the division.
18:50So it's, it's literally for me, it's just a matter of who do the Colts take back or if they take someone
18:57back, because I don't want to try to figure out what's the, what's the carry share going to be like?
19:04Are they just going to do the Kenneth Walker thing and try to preserve him for the playoffs?
19:10I, I would need to see the pieces involved in the trade in order for me to, for me to feel great
19:18about rolling him out there anymore because the situation in, in Indy just with no Quentin Nelson, one of the best, I
19:25mean, hall of fame, hall of fame guard gone.
19:28You can't tell me that's not going to have a very negative impact on the offense.
19:34Yeah. Jeremiah, any thoughts there before we move on?
19:37Yeah. What I'm looking at is if I'm trying to make my team deeper, better, and you're trying to make up ground
19:44because part shy of, if you're in a keeper league, it's just redraft.
19:49You're trying to ping back and forth, like the game pong and make sure, Hey, how can I make my team better?
19:56And sometimes you're in a desperation spot where you need multiple assets.
20:00That's this would be a spot where, okay, can I split off JT for Bejal Tootin and Stefan Diggs, Bejal Tootin and a Caleb Douglas.
20:09Part of it is a risky roulette play because this is Jonathan Taylor.
20:13He's an absolute stud. I like the idea of what Chef said about going to the Giants.
20:19There would just be no chicanery there. There'd be full deference by Cam Scadaboo and Harbaugh would just, Hey, he would not,
20:26you know, look a gift horse in the mouth.
20:29He would just get JT going. And could there be some dig ass chicanery in Seattle?
20:35Sure. But I'm of the mind of just such a true baller.
20:39That is JT that wherever he goes, he is the absolute alpha.
20:43You are out of your mind. If you're a contending team, if you don't make him the full bell cow player.
20:50So I would be happy if I'm in a situation where I've got four, five wins right now, or I'm undefeated, I'm sitting high.
20:58I'm not splitting off the asset of JT. But if I'm in that spot where I'm at the seven, the eight seed,
21:05I'm hovering towards that last final spot and I'm trying to battle and I've got some hurt pieces or I don't have
21:13the depth that I think I need. I'm going to be a little bit risky there and take that opportunity on the
21:20split side of what we're talking about. Yeah. I just, over the years, you see things happen and you think that it's
21:28going to be so good and then it just either takes a while or just isn't and doesn't work or whatever it is.
21:36So that's just a thought that crossed my mind of just like a midseason trade for a running back who you've been
21:43leaning on so hard all season long. Just, you know, I almost just wonder if, if you should, you know, can I,
21:50can I get Bucky Irving and a receiver or could I go, could I trade for like gente on a team that
21:58somebody just doesn't think they're getting what they should be getting out of gente and he's stinks and he's cooked and they
22:05would just rather have what you can get from JT.
22:09Maybe it's a massive failure, but like, I feel like you're almost playing the odds of, you know, that it being what
22:16you want it to be and it not kicking in for multiple weeks.
22:21Right. And then you're just standing there with either you can't play him or you're putting him in your lineup and he's
22:28killing you because he's only getting percentage of the carries and he just, it's just that they haven't figured it out yet.
22:35It might take a minute. Right. Regardless of how good they are.
22:40So I don't see him, I would immediately plug him in and not be concerned to your point.
22:46There could be a dip in production, but from the scenario laid out, if you're sitting there undefeated or maybe one or
22:53two losses, you're at the top of your standings.
22:56You have the time value luxury of waiting that out until JT hits his stride later on.
23:02Of course you want the bye week and all that.
23:05So, Hey, you're bickering. It's a battle out there, but I would, I would be more aggressive, bullish.
23:11On, on JT. Okay. All right. We got one more here.
23:15We've got some QBs that could be unlimited time.
23:18Now I think this has an ecosystem effect, but you know, generally Kirk cousins looks like maybe, you know, he could get
23:26the old cane in the neck on the, on the off stage here and, and a Jacoby Brissett as well, both performing
23:33well enough to be go from streamers to potential starters for you here, depending on matchup or whatever kind of week over week.
23:41Is there any thought questions or concerns of how you're operating around that?
23:45It lowers the ceiling to me. It lowers the ceiling to me of all of the past catching options outside of, outside of Brock Bowers.
23:54Like I would be a little bit, I'd be a little bit more uncomfortable if they take away, take away our Kirk cousins.
24:01Then we get Mendoza in there. And just a lot of the things that you said cross positionally about JT would be,
24:09Hey, how long do we take till we trust Fernando Mendoza with the bulk of the offense?
24:15Kind of like we're doing with the, in the manner in which they do with Kirk cousins.
24:20Do you ever get to that point? Kirk cousins credits, Clint Kubiak, alliteration aside.
24:25I had for his best season of his career.
24:28So it would be, it'd be really difficult for me to still feel really good about Trey Tucker.
24:34I'd go back to thinking he was more of a boom bust.
24:38Yeah. Boom bust flex option than somebody I could rely on with Fernando Mendoza.
24:43But then again, it, I mean, it could be a boat with Fernando Mendoza.
24:48It could just be so much better than we ever imagined.
24:51So I, I mean, with Kirk cousins balling the way that he's been balling the offense producing and the defense, just not
24:59being able to generate any sort of, any sort of resistance to other opposing offenses.
25:04You could be in a good environment, but also, you know, that Kirk cousins is going to continue to produce at this
25:11level as much, as long as he is healthy.
25:15Yeah. Yeah. So I'm going to take it from the angle of the quarterback side, because Shev really, you covered it well
25:22on how does it impact the fancy football assets tied to them.
25:26But if you have Kirk cousins who has yielded QB five production for you, it sounds crazy because you're like, Hey, how's that guy going to get benched?
25:35But the trajectory of the Raiders right now has it that that's in play.
25:40You probably have some kind of contingency plan at this point because Kirk cousins has been absolute found money for you, especially in super flex redraft.
25:49If you've been riding in one quarterback, you're able to turn and burn.
25:53There'll be guys on the waiver wire that you can push through.
25:57I love the idea though. So one note on the weapon side for Fernando Mendoza, again, that playoff schedule, Denver, Tennessee, Arizona.
26:05I think by then he could absolutely be right for all the weapons there.
26:10So a little more bullish on the, if you got pulled the plug more for the Raiders side.
26:16All right. Let's get into some this or that for the back half of this episode here.
26:22We're going to start off with Ollie Gordon, whose next three, I believe are Patriots lions and at Colts or Kyle Manungai or RJ Harvey.
26:30So Ollie Gordon Manungai or RJ Harvey. Ooh, I think this is pretty easily just RJ or just Ollie Gordon over all of them for me.
26:39And I'm a big RJ Harvey guy. Like, and I, I think PPR wise, I think he's a fine flex play.
26:46I just, Ollie Gordon, just he's the guy. Whereas those other two guys just, unless something happens, just aren't right.
26:53Like they're good. Don't get me. If they, if they get opportunity, then they're going to be great.
26:59As far as fantasy production goes, but Ollie Gordon is just the guy.
27:03Yeah. I mean, the Monongous among us is the elephant in the room here.
27:08Does, does this turn back into once he gets over the toe tenderness, does this turn back into more of a, more
27:15of a really effective timeshare, the plus plus version of Blake Corum where he's getting 12 carries or 13 carries.
27:22And if he falls into the end zone, but the answer has got to be Ollie Gordon.
27:28Now it's just gotta be Ollie Gordon. There's no question about it.
27:32There's nothing that's threatening. There's nothing that's, that's threatening his workload somehow or another.
27:37They figured out the run game without Devon H and which really pisses me off because I thought this could be really
27:44dynamic with Devon H and, but they figured it out.
27:47Now there's running lanes galore. I think that, I think that he's re regained the confidence that made him the Doak Walker award winner out of college.
27:57And we're going to see him continue to ascend throughout the course of the rest of this season, especially if this offense
28:04just isn't, just isn't as bad as it was through the first five weeks of the season, but that's growing pains.
28:11That's a quarterback play caller, just trying to find the rhythm.
28:15There's no Caleb Douglas and a limited version of limited version of Chris Bell.
28:20So yeah, I'm going, I'm going to go with Ollie Gordon pretty comfortably here.
28:24What about you, Jeremiah? I like Ollie Gordon. The one note on Kyle Mononga is he was RB 11 week one and
28:32he was RB four week four fancy playoff schedule at bills home versus Packers home versus lions.
28:38That's all projected in far away right here. Right now is happening for Ollie Gordon, RJ Harvey.
28:43You spoke to it, Casey, where there's a 30% to 40%, the plurality.
28:48There's no real huge majority between Dobbins Coleman Harvey.
28:51We've had production. We don't have necessarily clarity. We have clarity shorty on Ollie Gordon and he's been RB 13, 16, 17 and 15.
28:59He's been just a perfect RB two. Another name that we kind of consider and think about Blake Corum.
29:05He's last three games really turned it on 16, 14, 17 fantasy points is the chargers commanders Cardinals next three weeks.
29:12You have the shorty of the role though for Ollie Gordon versus somebody like Blake Corum where it's like, Hey, Karen Williams
29:20still has to get out of the way. I think you just got a clear on Ollie Gordon and it's incredible to
29:27think about how he's played as counterintuitive. He's played better somehow than Devon H and did in this ecosystem of this offense.
29:35And the cool thing, the Dolphins shy of the jets every other single week, defensive streamers like team defense and special teams
29:42has been a top 12 play against the Miami Dolphins.
29:46My prediction is as the season wears on with your Ollie Gordons, your Chris Bells, your Caleb Douglas, the trend for this
29:53Dolphins offense, they're not going to be quite the Browns.
29:56They're not going to be quite the jets, but they're going to be directionally better as the season wears on and they're
30:04going to be a tougher out for defenses down the stretch.
30:08So yeah, Ollie Gordon. Yeah. Like you said, Jeff, frustrating that, you know, that HN isn't out there right now as they
30:15kind of maybe figure a couple of things out in, in that run game.
30:20I think some of that has to do with Malik Willis moving around now.
30:25And those first couple of games probably wasn't, you know, wasn't moving around.
30:29They're loosening things up. They got, they come out of the buy, they get Douglas back.
30:34Like you said, they've started using Dulcich a little bit more throughout the last couple of weeks.
30:40So they're starting to establish how this offense works and runs a little bit.
30:45And then Malik has been moving around, which I think loosens just everybody up a little bit, especially, um, you know, kind
30:52of that front box of the defense. And, you know, you just got to keep an eye on Willis is dangerous, man.
31:00Um, and, and Ollie Gordon is running extremely well right now too.
31:04So shout out to him right now, looking like, uh, OG Ollie Gordon.
31:08So, uh, what a great pickup. Ollie Gordon was looks, looks like a, looks like a potential league winner.
31:15Does, does right. Does right. Come back. Maybe he has a little bit of, of, you know, cut into what he's doing,
31:22but I think Ollie will just ride this out for the most of the season and you spell him just like every
31:30other running back in the league for the most part with a little bit of right here.
31:35So, um, all right, let's go wide receiver. We got Jamison Williams or, uh, the couple of options, Carnell Tate, Denzel Boston, or Justin Jefferson.
31:44Hmm. Hmm. You know how to cut right to the core of me, Baxter.
31:48I don't really, I don't, you saw, I don't know if you guys saw the blurb, the little news blurb they put
31:56out that they're building red zone plays around Jamison Williams speed.
32:00Now he almost had a third touchdown in the game this past weekend.
32:04I, I don't see, I legitimately don't see how, I don't see how I could create a path to him being better
32:11than Justin Jefferson with Justin Jefferson's upcoming schedule, lions, bills, Packers.
32:15I, I assume that Denzel Boston will get back on track after a couple of quiet weeks.
32:21Maybe he's getting, he's getting the respect of a true alpha receiver deserves.
32:25And that's opened up things for Casey Concepcion. He's dominating in air yards right now, but it just hasn't, it hasn't led to fantasy production.
32:34It could be kind of a yo-yo thing. So you, you didn't think that you'd be in that same scenario with Jamison Williams, but it's basically Spider-Man meme.
32:43They're Spider-Man memeing right now in terms of their week over week utility.
32:48So I'll go with, I'll go with Jamison Williams over Denzel Boston, and I will definitely go with Jamison Williams over Cornell Tate.
32:55It's just a matter of the offensive environment and ceiling.
32:59And you know, I'm a, you guys know I'm a huge Jamison Williams guy.
33:04I mean, I'll die with the lie here. So I can't go with Cornell Tate.
33:09I mean, it's the offensive ceiling is just too low.
33:12I mean, if I, I'm not sure what I would do if I got a two touchdown game from Cornell Tate, but
33:19we just got one from Jamison Williams and we know that he's capable in an offense.
33:25It's going to be top three in the league in scoring and top six in pass attempts.
33:31So I would choose that over the, whatever alpha targets per route run that Cornell Tate's going to get.
33:37So yeah, that's kind of where I land. I'd be curious to hear you guys thoughts.
33:43Did you say Jefferson? I said Jefferson over, over Jefferson over Jamison Williams.
33:47Okay. Yeah. Jeremiah, what's your thoughts? Absolutely going just Jefferson 8.4 fancy points week seven versus the Colts.
33:53Not what you love to see. And I believe it is going to be Kyler Murray.
33:58I don't think we're going to have any kind of quarterback shift change.
34:03Definitely over Denzel Boston. So go J jets. As Jeff said over Denzel Boston, JMO.
34:08And agree with Cornell Tate. The thing about it though, is on paper, when you look at Cornell Tate wide receiver 24
34:15right now versus Jamison Williams, who was wide receiver 22 for the season at Bengals, get a bye week Jags at Cowboys at the Jaguars.
34:24Again, commanders at the lions Colts at Raiders, just an incredible schedule for Cornell Tate and the Titans.
34:30But that's all should and should is the most useless word in the English dictionary.
34:35So give me JMO just underneath Justin Jefferson in this group.
34:39I like it. All right, let's move on to the tight end portion of this.
34:44We got Juwan Johnson, who has been had a bit of a rough patch here these last couple of games.
34:51But are we sticking with him and riding the lightning here?
34:54Or are we going to the well on somebody like a Pat Fryer who's also been a little slow over the last couple?
35:02And then you guys have Colston Loveland and Dalton Kincaid here.
35:06I mean, to me, this is this is, you know, absolutely.
35:09Loveland never left my lineup and he's he's still remaining in my lineup.
35:14Even through the bad weeks, just rolled with him.
35:17So what's your guys thoughts here? Yeah, don't don't cry because it's over.
35:21Smile because it happened. We we had we had some really good stuff going on.
35:26Had some really good stuff going on with with Juwan Johnson to start the year off.
35:32Just reliable, reliable, easy, simple, clean volume. I'm looking it up right now and where he's been in terms of tidying utility
35:39over the last three weeks, weeks, five to seven.
35:42And I am just flabbergasted by the fact that, like, I have to I am still scrolling, trying to get to the body, trying to get to where.
35:52Yeah, it doesn't it doesn't make any sense. He's was so good and he's been such a big part of their offense when they're good.
36:00So the fact that it's been down these last couple of weeks is especially without anything really changing.
36:06And Tyson, you know, Tyson came back. He could be like, OK, but yeah, the tight end of 53 over the course
36:14of the last weeks, five to seven. And heading into their bye week, I just can't.
36:19I mean, yeah, no, I would give me all of these other receivers and I'll see the floor to anybody else that
36:27wants to have anything to say about Juwan Johnson.
36:30So I'm sorry, you go ahead. Go ahead. No, no.
36:33Oh, well, you said it right, Casey, where you said in Jordan Tyson hasn't even shown up yet.
36:39So if this has been problematic prior to Jordan Tyson, yeah, man, party's over and you absolutely want Loveland.
36:46We have Loveland, funny enough, and it's just how fantasy works.
36:49Colson Loveland overall cumulatively tight end 17, Dalton Kincaid tight end 18.
36:53Juwan Johnson, the tight end 10, but it's going in divergent directions.
36:57The one note, though, in here, Dalton Kincaid, I do wonder if he was tight end five and three weeks one and two, respectively.
37:06Took a dive where he's tight end 37, 52, 38, 16.
37:09Still want Dalton Kincaid over Juwan Johnson. I do worry and wonder, man, was the sell window for Kincaid that weeks one and two?
37:17Or do we ever get some of that back where we'll deliberate?
37:21So it's one of those things where I'm always going to be deliberating where I have Kincaid.
37:27Oh, crap. Should I sell them? And then do I write it out?
37:32And then I keep getting these James Williams up and down dips.
37:36But yeah, Juwan Johnson is pretty toast. Party's over.
37:39And I wouldn't go parties over. Don't count Juwan out.
37:42OK, OK. Don't count him out. Don't let him hang out for a second.
37:47It's not we're not talking about Jake Ferguson here.
37:50We're talking about Juwan Johnson. So I'm going to run this back.
37:54TJ Hawkinson, Hunter Henry, or Chigakonkwo this week? I got you.
37:58Yeah. Well, actually, TJ Hawkinson has. It's the Lions, right?
38:01Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Give me some huck.
38:04And would you play Kincaid over all those guys?
38:07Over Ravens? Over Hunter Henry? Over Chig? And Hawkinson?
38:10It gets tough at Hawkinson. I would play. I'd play Big Meaty Hawk over.
38:15I'd play Big Meaty Hawk over all those guys just this week.
38:19Ooh, OK. How about your boy Dulcich on the come up right now?
38:23Against the American Tackle Football Raiders of Las Vegas, of Alameda, California, of Anaheim?
38:28I think they play the Patriots this week. Ooh, do they?
38:32I thought the Raiders play the Jet. They play the Patriots.
38:36The Raiders play the Patriots? No, the Patriots play the Dolphins.
38:39Patriots play the Dolphins. Jets. All right, cool. All right.
38:43So Hunter Henry and Dulcich square off against each other.
38:46The Patriots have been pretty stingy to tight ends prior to that explosion from Colston Loveland last week.
38:52Yeah, I'd go Hunter Henry. Yeah. But Kincaid over all of them?
38:56You said not Hawk, right? I said, yeah, yeah, no.
39:00Hawk over all of them. Draw it at Hawk.
39:03And then Hawk to a, and then Hawk to a Kincaid after.
39:07Any love for Chigakonkwo coming alive here? I got a love for Chigakonkwo coming alive.
39:12It's just a hurry up and wait and see.
39:15We've got the snap share. We've got the snap share.
39:18We've got back-to-back 60-yard games. We've got seven and six targets.
39:22It could be happening. It could be happening. And nobody, it's just, it's right under our noses.
39:28Nobody cares. It looked good last week. Or I guess they were on a bye.
39:33But they looked good the Monday night against St.
39:36Frank. Yeah, the Monday night football. He looked, he looked like, he looked like the guy.
39:41Yeah. He looked like the guy. So I don't mind.
39:45I don't mind that. I just, so let me, let me, let me.
39:49All right. So where are we at agreement-wise? Are we, are you guys with me on Hawkinson versus the Lions?
39:56Yes. Okay. And then where do we go from there?
39:59That's what I'm struggling with. Do we go, do we go Hunter Henry versus the Pats?
40:05Versus the Dolphins? Versus the Dolphins? Yes. I don't know why I keep doing that.
40:10I feel, I feel like they're all, all kind of Spider-Man Mimi this week where they could all be, you know, have
40:17some okay volume, but it misses and it's not great.
40:21But all of them, I think all those guys could just come through with, you know, six, six catches for 60 yards and a touchdown.
40:29You know, all those, that's a really tricky situation.
40:32It seems like Kincaid should be the, the overall arching.
40:35I'm definitely playing that guy. But like you said, Jeremiah, like you thought you were, you thought shit was sweet for a
40:43minute and now you're back to scratching your head.
40:46Meanwhile, you know, Hunter Henry has been rock solid for weeks.
40:50Dulcich seems like he's coming back. Like you guys are saying, Hawks, Hawks back in the mix with Kyler seemingly.
40:56Um, and, and, and, you know, that Detroit defense and, and Chig seems like, you know, he's they're down a player, um,
41:04and, and he can soak up some, some volume there and, and was, was getting looks from, from JD.
41:10So go ahead, Jeremiah. And we'll move on the last quarterbacks here.
41:14I'm going to be stubborn and I can't believe this isn't you right now, Casey, but I think you're going to be
41:22happy with what I'm about to say. I'm going to just want to see it a little bit more on some Okonkwo.
41:29Well, I'm going to be stubborn. Antonio Williams. I prefer him.
41:33I think off the buy week, this is a perfect time to implement him.
41:38I see the spike being there for Antonio Williams.
41:41And we saw, oh man, that's sweet with Casey Concepcion did this last week.
41:45Like we're going to start getting that ramp up opportunity for Antonio Williams, especially if there's no trade, if there's no BTJ
41:53acquisition, just clear line directional for Antonio Williams. So I'm a little more on the bullish side of UC opportunity.
42:00And you're speaking to Chico Conkwo. I'm over here on the Antonio Williams side.
42:04And I, but you've been there this whole time, Casey.
42:08So this is like, respectfully, like I'm in here.
42:11Let us on the damn boat, buddy. I'm tough though.
42:14I'm tough. Yeah. No, you got, you guys are, you guys are about to be Leo in this situation.
42:21There's, there's not, there's no room on this door here.
42:24Whatever the hell. So it's a, it's a, it's a family got me where he tries to put the peg leg in there.
42:32They're like, Hey, get out of here. Get out of here.
42:36Yeah. Yeah. No, I think, I think Chig is in.
42:39That's going to be, that's one of my favorite, one of my favorite players that I've submitted a claim on this week because most people don't care.
42:48Like they're just one. People aren't realizing that Jaden Daniels is back out there doing stuff.
42:53Good. Yeah. Blau seems like he might be kind of, they might be mind melded a little bit.
43:00It looks all right. Right. That felt like that, that back half of that Sam Frank game was, was solid.
43:06Yeah. Once I woke up, that was a, that was a fun finish.
43:11I'm sure it wasn't fun for you, but it was sweaty.
43:14Yeah. It was sweaty. All right. We got some QB conversation.
43:18We're talking to rest of season here. Talk to me.
43:22Yeah. Tyler Shuck. Bryce Young. Aaron Rogers. My God.
43:25Or you have Trevor Lawrence on here, which I feel like that would be, that'd be the easy answer just out of
43:32a safety perspective of saying like the other guys I have can not concerns, but I have, you know, there's letdowns and consumer confidence drops off.
43:41And, you know, I don't think any of those guys will be benched by any means, but T-Law is just out there with the, just swinging his hair.
43:50They're like, you know, it's just, yeah. I hate the show.
43:54Commercial. Yeah. But confidently, I think, I think Shuck Bryce Young is a tough toss up unless you guys feel differently that maybe I'm overconfident in Lawrence.
44:03Well, I don't have a beard right now because I started, I started Bryce Young over Tyler Shuck.
44:09So forgive me if I'm a little perturbed by the thought of Bryce Young right now.
44:15So I'll go Tyler Shuck over, over Bryce Young right now.
44:18And obviously Trevor Lawrence over all of them. And then I don't, I'd have Aaron Rodgers behind, behind the two young quarterbacks in Bryce Young and Tyler Shuck.
44:28Just because if there's a game where, I mean, we're at a point now where one, he's not going to bomb you anymore.
44:36Like he's not, he's not taking the shots downfield as aggressively and they're going to rely on Jalen Warren, if he gets
44:43stopped and they just run it in, there's no rushing utility.
44:47There's not, there's not the ceiling outcome that you can get from a Tyler Shuck because they're dependent on, you know, because
44:54they're dependent on Aaron Rodgers to, you know, just throw the ball all the time.
44:59They can, I mean, they can win in a myriad of different ways.
45:04So yeah, I would go obviously Trevor Lawrence, big ginormous Mariana Trench gap.
45:08Then Tyler Shuck, Ben Bryce Young, then Aaron Rodgers.
45:11So, you know, assuming because of Trevor's placement currently on, on the overall standings of quarterback points scored, right.
45:18Being in that fold with those guys and being, you know, having some turnovers, which hasn't been on like Trevor Lawrence.
45:25Um, but the rushing floor being down a little bit right now on, on Lawrence.
45:30So is, is there any non-confidence with you, Jeremiah and Lawrence?
45:34I actually, it's funny enough. I am ready to look at the odds on FanDuel or any kind of books or sports
45:41books, wherever we have things going on. Um, I want him MVP, MVP odds.
45:46I think he's a good secondary tertiary type of play.
45:49Trevor Lawrence. And you look at this beautiful schedule.
45:52You're talking Colts at Ravens, at Titans, at Giants, Titans again.
45:56Oh, they get the Steelers in the playoffs. It's at Texans at who they just, he was QB one week six against those very Texas.
46:04Then at the Cowboys versus the commanders, it is beautiful electric.
46:08You want Jaguars right now. Like if you can go and acquire them.
46:12So it is clear in a way, Trevor Lawrence, funny enough, QB 13 to Tyler Shuck, who's QB 10 between Shuck and Bryce Young.
46:21While I have a little more Tyler Shuck, I'm going to go on the opposite end.
46:26I'm not going to coach my lineups, not going to coach my bets, Shev, as Joseph would say, but I will go in the Bryce Young angle.
46:35He's been QB three, seven, six, eight, four top 10 fancy performing games for Bryce Young had that really one bad week,
46:43week seven against the Buccaneers just now it's fresh.
46:46So it's in, in our minds. I've, I don't know if you saw it on X, but there was a defender who
46:53talked about facing Tyler Shuck and saying, Hey, waiting until we got down to the 15 seconds where they could turn off the QB and the coach headset.
47:03And then the defense would change the play and change the cadence.
47:07And then it just threw off Tyler Shuck. That information is out there in rapid succession time right now.
47:13If defenses are just going to do that to Tyler Shuck, he could be really up a creek for quite some time.
47:21And that could explain part of what's happening with Juwan Johnson.
47:24And it could necessitate just a little bit more hesitance on Tyler Shuck.
47:29So I'm going to go clear in a way.
47:32Agree, gentlemen. It's Trevor Lawrence. Aaron Rogers, I put at the bottom because we're just not necessarily going to get that ceiling.
47:39Still think Tyler Shuck has that opportunity, but it's for the reasons that I stated.
47:44I want Bryce Young over Tyler Shuck. So T law, Bryce Young, Tyler Shuck.
47:49All right. That's going to do it for this episode.
47:52Make sure you check out the Thursday episode where the boys get back together and discuss some sit start essentially.
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