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0:09Bad time to shave. Bad time to shave. Alright, well we got some action for you.
0:14We got a little live roster review, so you can grab those on the website.
0:19We'll do a live roster review when we're doing a live show.
0:23You can also get a personal roster review, which just us and a personal video.
0:28You can have it private or public and we'll spend at least 30 minutes breaking down your roster.
0:34We're gonna answer some questions. We're gonna talk about some player values and we'll probably end with some power rankings or something along those lines.
0:42Chev, you ready to get into it? I was born ready.
0:46Alright, well, we're gonna do this roster review off the rip.
0:49I see there's a couple questions in there. We got questions on the site, but I want to start off with with
0:57JJ McCarthy and kind of where you are valuing and what you're seeing from JJ McCarthy.
1:02Is this hmm and then and really like and if we like it like what are the Giants options and like how
1:09does the value for him kind of play out long term?
1:13Like, you know, you'd like to think that hey, you know with our dynasty brains.
1:18Well, they got them for this and they can sell them for that.
1:22And and and maybe so if things go well, but like how are you gauging if there is a nice resurgence if
1:29you like anything that you're seeing from McCarthy here through the end of the season?
1:34You know, how do we how do we deal with that?
1:38So there's a lot of questions as bad job on the host part here, but generally what are you seeing from JJ McCarthy right now?
1:46I we saw all the things that we never saw in Minnesota.
1:50So we have evidence of what some of the people that have been the most insufferable on the Internet about the last two and a half years.
1:59Like he's he was doing and executing, you know, touch balls layered layered over defenders putting it like in prime position.
2:05Everything's not a rocket ball. It looks good. I mean, it looks good from, you know, the 240 some odd yards.
2:12He threw four in the fourth quarter of the game against the Saints.
2:17And then I mean, it looked really good this past week against the Texans, even though they did lean on the run game.
2:24But I mean, that's just kind of been his M.O.
2:27since college. So if you are going to support him with a run game and he's going to do the big boy
2:35NFL stuff that we just hadn't seen previously and throw the ball with touch and stuff, this could be I mean, he
2:42could end up having one of the just being the the next in the bounce back quarterback rehab resuscitation era that we live in now.
2:50So that's a very real possibility after two good outings.
2:53Now, just some of the things he was doing makes me make me believe that it could be it could have just been, hey, terrible fit.
3:02We don't really rock like we were never going to vibe because I just he just doesn't mesh in the Kevin O'Connell system.
3:09And we all saw that as an indictment. I know I saw it as an indictment on his ability because of the success.
3:17Some guys that had not been selected with the draft capital that he had or, you know, any sort of pedigree.
3:24Right. So they they'd all had success, you assume.
3:27But that clearly wasn't the case. So there's a very real possibility right now.
3:31I want to see I want to see one or two more games.
3:35They're on bye week this week. I want to see one or two more games of not even just statistical high statistical
3:43output, but him just doing actual NFL quarterback stuff.
3:46And if that's going to be the case, then we're going to get, you know, if it's not super impressive for fantasy,
3:53that's better for us because if he shows you he's a really good quarterback, but it's not the best for fantasy, all
4:00the fantasy nerds are going to be like, well, he only averaged 13.8 points per game.
4:05And it's like, all right, well, I mean, he he's just getting acclimated to a system.
4:10I can buy into that if it's really good from a fantasy perspective because he just runs around all the time and
4:18just does stuff that isn't going to isn't sustainable long term.
4:21The thing that we say about every other single mobile quarterback can't throw the ball.
4:26Well, the thing that we said about Daniel Jones for a long time, then I'll probably be hands off still.
4:33But good for him for at least having this little run.
4:36Like that's that's good for him, even though like I wasn't a fan.
4:41I'm not a fan. I but I do admit that it has been impressive these last couple of games.
4:47So, yeah, long story less long. I'm a if I'm if I'm a J.J.
4:51McCarthy owner, I'm holding if I am looking to acquire J.J.
4:55McCarthy. And I believe go ahead and send send what you think it's going to cost.
5:00You know, don't send that as a first offer, but be willing to pay what you think it's going to cost if
5:07he has a good run out this season. And if you're a denier, just sit with me over here in the cabbage passion.
5:15Wait. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we got some a couple of trades here up on the screen here where J.J.
5:21There's a second and a third of twenty seven and twenty eight.
5:25Here's a twenty eight second, twenty eight second, twenty seven second.
5:29So twenty seven second, twenty seven second. These are just kind of straight up McCarthy trades here.
5:35Here's another twenty seven second. That's twenty seven third.
5:38So, you know, some people are just going to get out because this was dead money for so long.
5:44So I mean, me and Stan talked about it after the first go around, like he's way down in our right in our crowdsource rankings.
5:52But you can see a huge number next to his name because he's obviously shooting up because we're seeing some some life out of him.
6:00Right. And I think you hit some of those talking points kind of right on the head there for J.J.
6:07But, you know, what what? Like you said, you know, sometimes, you know, we I didn't love J.J.
6:13McCarthy as a first round pick in the NFL.
6:15Right. It wasn't my favorite. Right. Exactly. And that's exactly where that's where it starts.
6:20Yeah. And then he goes to Minnesota and you're like, all right, well, KOC has done some good stuff in the past with some quarterbacks.
6:29And there's all sorts of players around him. So the system and the ecosystem is all good.
6:34And at the time, you know, we're starting to lose a little bit of trust in KOC.
6:40But at the time, like we felt pretty good about what he was doing.
6:44And and generally from what you saw from Jim at Michigan to what he was doing at Minnesota, that now it feels
6:51like, yeah, this was probably didn't seem like a great fit.
6:55He wasn't, you know, jiving with the system. And instead of, you know, creating the system to help J.J.
7:01KOC sticking with kind of what he does, at least that's my interpretation of it right now.
7:07I'm sure there'll be plenty of stories down the line if this is a big reclamation.
7:12Right. Oh, yeah. But, you know, generally you saw him in that mop up duty and it was like, hey, wait a second.
7:20You know, don't don't don't jump into conclusions because this looked fine.
7:24But it was like it was like a bunch of and yeah, that's fine.
7:28But this is everybody was in. Hey, just don't mess it up mode.
7:32And now you come in here, you see him play a whole game against the Texans.
7:38And look, the Texans, if this was if this was the old this is that last year's Texans defense, this would be a lot more impressive.
7:46And I'm not trying to take anything away from him because, like I said, they haven't been good.
7:52They haven't they haven't been good. Right. And this but for him to go on the road, this was a big spot for the Texans.
8:00And just as a team, it's a huge letdown.
8:03Right. They had to have this. And you let you let the Giants come in with JJ first starting and like it
8:10seemed like they kept it really simple. And he fit a better in kind of what they're doing.
8:16Hey, but, you know, the thought process here is like, hey, Jim had him.
8:21John scooped him up. You know, there's some family conversation going there and he's probably telling him, hey, maybe it just doesn't fit right.
8:29Like I vouch for him, scoop him up. And, you know, as silly as that may sound, that could very well be
8:36what took place and was a big factor in getting him.
8:40And now you go there and you simplify the offense for him to come in.
8:44And this is impressive for him to do, regardless of who he's playing, to come in here and only be here for what, three or four weeks ish.
8:54Get a start. And, you know, yeah. Did he throw any touchdowns?
8:58No. But like I went back and watched every throw today.
9:01Like he made some great throws into some space with some anticipation.
9:05A lot of a lot of throws out to like that 15 yards out to the sideline ish area that were in good spots.
9:13I mean, he moved around all right. So all encouraging.
9:16But we want to see a group of games when we're talking about somebody because, you know, you just don't know.
9:23And nobody's really seen him and they didn't know what this was going to look like.
9:28So they don't have a whole lot to go off of.
9:32So could have went one of two ways. And it went a very, very good way for JJ McCarthy.
9:38And you got to be excited about it. Yeah, you can't.
9:42Yeah, I'm sorry. Go ahead. No, you're good. The other part of this equation is what I kind of asked in the
9:49first part of the question is like, if this does go well.
9:53And the Giants, you know, what? How do you see them playing this out now?
9:58Like if it goes pretty well and not in a way of because I think he's going to take Jackson Dart's job.
10:05I don't think that's what's going to happen. Right.
10:08Right. But what I'm saying is Jackson Dart goes back to the starter.
10:12Do they carry McCarthy through his rookie contract? Yeah.
10:15Fuck. Yeah. As a backup or do they sell?
10:18No. So then if you're making trades for him, right.
10:21So then you should just it should it should it be an auto sell then at this point if you can get a second for him.
10:30No, I wouldn't sell. Because because if he's going to sit around as a backup for two, three years, then then that's
10:37going to you know, you're going to probably get another chance to buy because he's going to be priced as a backup.
10:44Yeah. He's going to become a really good talking point to say, man, I think J.J.
10:49McCarthy is going to go be a starter somewhere next year.
10:53And then when all that hubbub starts, then you could sell for a first of some sort.
10:59Or you just hold. And if he if he can actually play, then you've got another QB one that actually puts on the puts all the.
11:07He puts it all together in terms of your, I guess, viability.
11:11Now you're in a place where you can sell him for you can tell him from first plus.
11:17I think that I just don't think that he's a guy that I would sell right now.
11:23Personally, I can't I can't get behind that because you're not going.
11:26There's still going to be enough doubt surrounding J.J.
11:29McCarthy where you just don't like you're not going to get optimal value right now today.
11:35Yeah, there's not a whole lot of point of swiping on him because he is is kind of so low here.
11:42So it's going to be J.J. on all these.
11:44I can make up my own swipe slides. Let me let me ask you, Casey.
11:49Yeah, since we're now that we're here and real quick.
11:53Hang on. I'll interrupt you for a second. And Nate brings up a good case.
11:58And that was going to kind of be my point is like, you know, we mentioned what are they doing with him?
12:05He says he's a handcuff, not a backup. That's a good verbiage to kind of say it there.
12:11He is a backup and he very well could sit on the sidelines for a whole nother year.
12:17And then they got the they got the club option in.
12:2028, right? Is that what that be the if they want to exercise the fifth, which I can't imagine they would if he's right.
12:28You know, I don't know exactly what they would do there.
12:32They'd be forced with an option, but it's a good position for the Giants to be in.
12:37I don't know if it's a great position for fantasy owners right now to be trying.
12:42Like if you want, I can't begrudge you for getting value out of him now if he's going to sit around as
12:50sort of a high, high end backup that, you know, he can play with sort of like that handcuff.
12:56Well, it's interesting. That's that was the part of this that I thought was interesting.
13:01We'll see if he can play. So we'll just hear me out.
13:05Hear me out. So this is this could be turning into the Malik Willis thing that we just went through where Big
13:12Co was saying, hey, I'm Stash and Malik Willis.
13:15We're doing the same thing with we're doing the same thing with Mac Jones.
13:19Like how can it's the same principle. So if you want to sell now, you're just selling at a backup price.
13:26The minute he gets a starting job, you have another starter in a super flex.
13:31Right. But I guess what I'm saying is, is like you when Mac Jones was that starter for them for a little
13:38while, you probably had an opportunity to squeeze some more money out of that deal.
13:43And now the value has sunk back down where you can go acquire it.
13:48Like it's there's almost a better entry point now than then.
13:52And I don't know if that dichotomy, it maybe works the same here.
13:56If you need McCarthy to be a starter for you for the rest of the season and then you're like, hey, I can be a backup.
14:04He's super valuable to you now. And like you have a fun young prospect, but, you know, he's got to basically be your fourth.
14:12Right. If it's super flex. Right. Because you can't rely on him to be your third.
14:17He's an awesome four. So I don't know that that part is interesting.
14:22Yeah. No, I mean, it's a it's a fun.
14:25Hey, maybe he's not dead yet. Yeah, absolutely. And I'm really excited to see kind of what happens.
14:30But again, I watched every throw and I was good.
14:34I was impressed. It was like, hey, good for you, man.
14:37This is not easy to come in here and do.
14:41It can go one of two ways. And it went in the way that makes you like, all right, well, that was pretty exciting.
14:48He could have a bunch of a slew of bad games, which I would expect him to have a couple of down.
14:56You know, oh, that didn't look great. Like in that first mop up duty, there was two or three turnover worthy plays
15:03right away, which, hey, every quarterback has those. But we talk about the equity built and you care a lot less about it when the equity is built.
15:12But when it's not, those are like, oh, really hanging on those.
15:16Yeah, you know, absolutely. So, I mean, he could Chad Kelly this thing up.
15:21I don't think he will, though. No, this this looks good.
15:24And it just seems like it fits a little better.
15:27Hey, what we have here is look, Harbaugh, the Giants forever have been flailing, right?
15:32Since the last real coach they had. And Dayball had him in a couple spots here and there.
15:38But you never felt like the Giants were stable.
15:41Some of that's because of the GM. Some of that's just because.
15:45But you got a professional coach in here, regardless of Harbaugh is going to take him to the promised land or not throughout this.
15:53You don't know. But like for the Ravens, they got tired of what Harbaugh was and it probably ran its course.
16:00But for the Giants, this is a huge stabilization across the board.
16:04And for what he can do and what he is, McCarthy, that is, fits kind of what Harbaugh wants to do with
16:11this Giants team, at least for the interim until we can, you know, kind of take the training wheels off of this.
16:18Right now, we just got to play sound, fun.
16:21Like right now, you went out there, you played a basic offense and you just ran it well.
16:27Yeah. And that's what the Giants are trying to do, you know, baby step this thing.
16:32You're baby stepping this thing because you you're rebuilding his confidence along with the fact that you're trying to primarily trying to
16:39win football games, but doing it in a manner in which it doesn't.
16:44He set up for success, which maybe he wasn't based on the system, not to say that he couldn't play.
16:50So that's just kind of that's my that's my lean on the situation.
16:55I think the value is going to go up if he continues to.
16:59I mean, obviously, if he continues to play well, I think it would have to go really, really well for somebody to
17:06give up draft capital and the Giants to to bite on that based on Jackson Darts injury history at this point.
17:13Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll move on from McCarthy here.
17:16We'll answer a couple of questions. Then I said, like, we got a live roster review, but we got some more players
17:24we want to talk about here and talk about their value throughout.
17:28And if you guys want to throw some guys out while you're listening, feel free.
17:32We might get to him. We might not. But let's throw meatballs question up on the screen here.
17:38Hey, guys, in a guillotine league, I have four hundred ninety three out of a thousand in fab six most needed two running backs.
17:46I have Dobbin Rashad White and Javante Henry and Jed Judkins are available.
17:50How much of the four hundred ninety three fab should I put on them?
17:55So this is not my strong suit here. I haven't played in a guillotine league in a while.
18:01No. Yeah. I don't know. I spend a significant amount on Derek Henry.
18:05I mean, I like both of them, but I guess I don't know, like what the market is week to week on these sort of things.
18:14Yeah, no, I don't. I mean, I'm assuming. I mean, if it's a guillotine, then yeah, guillotine is not my not my jam.
18:21Yeah. So I would be I just I'm pulling up Derek Henry schedule because I feel like that's just the safest thing
18:28you can do to try to keep yourself from getting axed.
18:32But also think when Sean Jenkins out, I mean, he definitely outscored Derek Henry last week.
18:37So. Yeah. Yeah. See, the Ravens have the bills this week.
18:41So I would say generally, like if this if these two guys are are like a national level of player that, you
18:48know, and you need you need to running backs, you know, seems like you could, you know, the name of the game is trying to stay alive.
18:57I suppose. I'm going to assume you're going to want some money in your back pocket, but I don't necessarily have a great strategy for this.
19:05I would say probably at least half of that you would want to throw on those guys.
19:11But like what has been the what's been the number?
19:14And I'm sure it's coming down as the season's going on for these higher end assets.
19:20But any anything else to fuck meatball? Sorry, man.
19:22I would love to give you a better answer here, but just trying to be honest.
19:28Yeah. All right. What's up, Andrew? Question mark. Don't know who Andrew is, but you're here now.
19:33So what is JSN worth in a one QB half PPR league?
19:37I wouldn't last year. I won it last year, I'm assuming.
19:41Could win it again this year. Just thinking of keeping him.
19:44Yeah. If you're in a position to keep JSN and continue to win, then keep JSN like there's just there's none better right now.
19:52There's nothing. There's nothing to you. Hey, you got to the mountaintop.
19:56There's no need to leave unless you have like.
19:59Right. If you're in position to win and you don't need to get off of JSN and get multiple assets because you're
20:06in a bad position, then you just there's leagues where I got a league right now.
20:12We're one of the dudes who's got he basically has JSN and his team is Superman and it is keeping his team
20:19just in the mix with the better teams. So if you've got a pretty good roster and you won last year, then I'd keep it rolling.
20:27Don't don't worry about what he's worth right now.
20:30He's worth the most to you because you're trying to cash a check at the end.
20:35All right. Apparently, this guy thinks one of us is Andrew.
20:39Don't know how we got there. Or maybe you're just on the wrong channel.
20:44But hey, you're here now. So last year's champ, very young team.
20:48What is JSN? We just we just answered that.
20:51So that was the same question from from Ronnie there.
20:54All right. What do you think of Jaden Daniels?
20:57Are we going Jalen Daniels or Jaden Daniels? Jaden.
21:00Jaden. I'm keeping I'm keeping him till he retires, but I'm nervous.
21:04He's going to be in and out of injuries.
21:07OK, should I sell him now? So what is Jalen Jaden Daniels?
21:11You got to get this pay and Pam situation.
21:13Long term situation. Yeah, this was it's confusing now.
21:16But then he went he went with the wrong spelling as well.
21:20So yeah, and then Big D always gets me with always pronouncing Jaden Daniels wrong.
21:25Jaden Daniels. Now he's got me. Jaden Daniels name wrong.
21:29So should I sell him for a young QB and a value?
21:32So are you basically are you concerned with the long term of Daniels here?
21:37The commander's quarterback, to be clear. Yeah, no, no.
21:40I mean, I bought him all. I bought him all offseason and I will continue to do so.
21:46Like if he's going to he's going to get hurt.
21:49That's it's fine. It's not I don't feel like it's going to be anything career ending.
21:54He just and I think he's going to figure I think he's going to start to figure it out.
22:01I mean, but as far as the what the risk reward is here.
22:05Yeah, I'm going to swing on that all like every single time he's been he's been excellent from a fantasy perspective this year.
22:12So, yeah. Yeah. And it was, you know, a bummer and a little bit of a weird one last year.
22:19And then he comes back, elects not to have the surgery.
22:23Has it happened again? Throws the brace on basically.
22:25Seems like he's sort of unbothered by it at this point.
22:29Like if, you know, if we start popping up with a bunch of other injuries here throughout.
22:35But, you know, I think he'll be fine. And I think what we're seeing right now is as long as the whole
22:42regime doesn't change out from under him. From what I'm gathering, it seems like him and Blau are kind of getting on the same page here.
22:50They've had kind of Terry in and out of the lineup.
22:54I almost kind of like at this point that Terry is just now removed from the situation.
23:00Like, you know, not because I want Terry to not be in the situation, but it felt like it was like, is he isn't he?
23:08Is he around? We got to keep moving guys, changing the game plan around.
23:12What's your role? What's it? Hey, now we're going in here.
23:16We got digs. We got Antonio Williams. We got Chig.
23:19We got white. You know, this is what we're doing now.
23:23Right. So that part of it kind of I like it for Jaden Daniels to sort of figure out.
23:29Who, what, where, when, how and his progressions and who does what for him.
23:34Right. And I thought they looked great in the back half of that second of the back half of that Sam Fran game.
23:41Now, obviously, you're kind of playing with nothing to lose at that point.
23:45So you came out really flat and really gross for a minute.
23:49But it seems like maybe they're putting something together here that looks all right.
23:54And as long as his confidence grows, I don't think I'm terribly, terribly worried about injuries long term to the point where I would want to be selling.
24:03Uh, JD five at this point. No, I wouldn't.
24:06I mean, like what young quarterback are we talking?
24:09Right. Like Mendoza? No. Yeah. Like, I mean, I mean, darts got similar.
24:13Yeah. Issues. Right. The mystery box is literally the mystery box.
24:17Like, you know, Purdy, Purdy and Lawrence. I mean, I could, I could move off of, I could move off of them
24:24for either one of those guys, but. I wouldn't say they're necessarily young, but they're not old by quarterback terms.
24:31Right. I could move off of them for that.
24:33But I mean, like just looking at it right now, he's been the QB one from weeks three to three to six here or three to seven.
24:42And they were on, I mean, they run by.
24:45So that's me play two games, 26.7 fantasy points per game.
24:49I, he has this type of upside. So like, if you're just, if you're just going to be frustrated because you feel
24:56like you can't get his, you can't sell him for what you feel like he would be worth to someone else, then
25:03just hold him and enjoy having a quarterback. It's going to score a lot of fantasy points when he's healthy.
25:10Yeah. All right. We got two more here and then we're going to get to the roster review.
25:16Then we'll be back to answer some questions and whatnot.
25:19And we'll talk some values as well. Sort of like we let off with JJ here.
25:24Value. How far apart is BTJ and Marv? It can be far.
25:28They can't be far apart. We can look in the crowd source here.
25:32See what's up. Here's Brian Thomas. I would assume Marv's got to be above him.
25:37Marvin Harrison is at 80 wide receiver 29 and BTJ is at wide receiver 34.
25:42So five spots currently and 96 and it's a 19 spots in the crowd source overall ranking.
25:48Super flex tight end premium right now. In my personal rankings, I, you know, I feel at least comfortable because I know
25:55now what the situation is with Marv or I don't know the long-term situation with BTJ.
26:00And I like where Marv is at least for this year.
26:04And I don't know what BTJ is. I can look at my rankings real quick.
26:09But what's your thought process here? I would say confidence is a bit higher in Marv right now.
26:15It feels like his confidence is also coming back up right where BTJ still seems wavering generally.
26:20So I'll look at my rankings here and then what's your thoughts here?
26:24For me, I have a lot more confidence in Marv because I like the situation a lot better.
26:30Pretty much, it seems as though they're done with the Brian Thomas experiment in Jacksonville, if we're being totally honest.
26:37He's losing snaps to Josh Cameron and Travis Hunter's playing more offense.
26:41It just seems like they just don't really have a plan or like a plan of utility or a plan to move on.
26:48So he could just be there. And it's like, if you can help us do something cool, if not cool.
26:55Whereas Marv is back with his college quarterback, the role is going to grow, especially now.
27:00Good point with Dougie in the comments there. Noel's out for the season.
27:04So Marv then steps forward from a snap share and a route share and a target share perspective.
27:10And I mean, the one thing that we know is he can score touchdowns.
27:15So that just gives him another weapon in the red zone.
27:18I think that that's going to be really good for Marv.
27:22So without question, I would take Marv over BTJ right now.
27:26I got Marv at 35 overall and receivers and BTJ at 43.
27:30And I just kind of just stuck them in there behind guys like a Jordan Addison and Jeremy Bernard right now.
27:36Right. Like, would you rather have like I got Caleb Douglas at 53?
27:41Like, would you rather have Caleb Douglas right now or BTJ?
27:44Sounds crazy. But like, I think I think I would rather have Caleb Douglas right now.
27:50Well, yeah, it just like the stink isn't on him.
27:53The mental gymnastics that you would have to do to everything that you just said about JJ McCarthy being a backup.
28:00That's essentially what Brian Thomas Jr. has become. So we're we're praying that he gets a run out that we like sometime soon or there's an injury.
28:09Not we're not that we're saying that we want injuries, but an injury happens.
28:13And something happens that lets them that lets him become a target share, a part of the target share, part of the passing tree again.
28:21Whereas Caleb, Caleb Douglas, there is no competition. He is the passing tree right now.
28:26And it looks awesome. It's two for 70 and two touchdowns.
28:30It's a lot like Brian Thomas Jr.'s rookie. Sure.
28:33Right. Right. Right. I mean, it's just, you know, I there's just a lot more excitement and a lot more to be excited about with Caleb Douglas.
28:42Yeah. Now, if BTJ gets traded, then you get a little bit of a hope revival.
28:47Yeah. You got the Marv. You've got the Marv.
28:50Hey, you know, it's so good that we make a sequel, but the sequel is never as good as the original.
28:57So there also wouldn't surprise me if this week they come out and try to get him involved, try to get him some balls.
29:05And then maybe he isn't on the team in a week or two.
29:09Yeah. I mean, I've got to somebody's got to do something at the wide receiver position.
29:14And it doesn't make sense for them to just keep him in purgatory.
29:18If you can get you can get a fourth round pick for a dude that just doesn't fit your plans anymore.
29:25And he's been he's just showed up and done his work.
29:29You just you just don't really have utility for him anymore.
29:32So, yeah. Yeah. Trade him. Yeah. All right. Well, I got we're going to answer this question.
29:38Then we're going to the roster review. Then we're going to talk some values on players like Antonio Williams, Ali Gordon, Justin Jefferson.
29:45We'll talk about some of those guys here after we answer this question and some roster reviews.
29:51I'm sure we'll answer a few more along the way.
29:54So he said, would you trade JJ Rome and Gatsden or JJ Rome Gatsden 27 third for Lemon Antonio Williams 27 one early middle.
30:02I'm going to assume that's what that means. EM 28 one EM 10 man super flex half PPR of seven and oh
30:09my wide receivers are JSN CD neighbors. Rice Rome would give me five 27s included likely the 101.
30:15So basically saying that JJ is now that's Justin Jefferson or is that JJ McCarthy?
30:20It's got to be JJ McCarthy. Otherwise, this is one of the worst trades I've ever seen in my entire life.
30:27Well, he said his wide receivers are JJ CC JSN CD and JJ neighbors.
30:32Rice. So it's two one. So it could be, it could be, it's Justin Jefferson because there's two, there's no way that there's not two ones involved.
30:40There's not. So two, two ones. And I'm assuming he's saying they're going to be early to middle.
30:46Um, do do lemon Williams. Okay. So two late and two first.
30:50Yeah. Early middle first. So mills is called middle first.
30:54Yeah. One six ish. Let's say, um, I mean, I like really like Antonio Williams.
30:58I think lemon is, is a fine player. I still really like Roma dunes.
31:03Hey, and I think JJ is a stud. Um, I mean, we're going to talk some JJ, but I think generally I
31:10still want to lean on the JJ side, but maybe that's just because of, you know, historical bias.
31:16Well, in a 10 team, in a 10 team, you gotta, I mean, you want to be heavier on the studs, right?
31:23I mean, you've got he's seven and oh, this would give him five for, for what?
31:29Like you don't need it though. Like you got four already.
31:32You're all right with four 27 first and the one-on-one.
31:35So you're getting the best. What we think right now is the best asset in the class.
31:41And you've got three other ones in the 10 team league.
31:45So yeah, if Justin Jefferson is doing what he's doing, all those players and those picks are being traded for JJ.
31:51Right. Right. So I think I'm just hanging on to JJ and you're seven and oh, you don't need to do anything.
31:59It doesn't seem like those players would you need them to help you.
32:03So I'm just going to hang on to JJ and hope that we get back to where we've been of being the
32:10top receiver or the top five receiver in the league.
32:13Yeah. JJ, I mean, Roma do you say like you're you'd be selling though.
32:18You'd be selling Rome and Gaston for such a discounted price right now.
32:22Yeah. Yeah, I agree. And that's as good. It's a good move by who's ever trying to buy those guys from you.
32:29Those are two goodbyes. I think J Mo, we talked about Jackson to lead the show off.
32:35So we'll we'll we'll let that lie. But we tomorrow or after this is over, you can go back to the beginning.
32:42We hit some JJ and in the beginning of this bad Larry.
32:46All right. Let's jump over to a roster review here.
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32:57Will Gadsden bounce back? Sure. I believe so. But yeah, I would say so.
33:02Let's jump into this roster review. Wrong one. We're not on prospects yet.
33:06Price picks. Chris comes in. He says, yo, fellas, thanks for all the advice over the years.
33:12Number one in the game. Appreciate it. So won the ship last year.
33:16I've been decimated by injuries, but winning games still have two great picks on a loaded roster.
33:22Should I hang tight or make a big contender move?
33:25Question mark. Any and all advice needed. OK, so it's 12 team.
33:29One point PPR point three tight end premium. All right.
33:32I don't think I've seen that. Six point passing touchdown.
33:35Looks like two wide receiver, two running back, two flex and a super flex.
33:40Five taxi, three IR and 10 bench. So it's got a good little squad here.
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34:03That gets all this stuff plus a much deeper breakdown.
34:06So let's jump over to. Sorry, wrong one. Let's jump over to the league ranking here.
34:11And we can see. All righty. Then he's got Joe Burrow.
34:15He's got Mendoza. He's got golf. He's got Baker.
34:18He's got cousins. So he's got a solid QB room right now.
34:22He is five and two. He's got 969 points.
34:25That's pretty decent from what we've scoured through the league pre-show.
34:28Then he's got HN Hampton breeze. So there's a bunch of your injuries and Hamptons just might as well be injured.
34:35Chuba Barkley. There's another injury. And then Aaron Jones and Chuba.
34:39So those guys have been holding your, your RB room like glue together here.
34:43You got Puka CD and Parker Washington solid. And then Omar Cooper Jr.
34:48Who's coming on being a nice little light for you here.
34:51Josh Downs seemingly maybe on the trade block. Ted Hurst.
34:54Good future. Trey Harris. You know, we love him.
34:57Tyler Warren's missed some time, but strange has been able to fill in for you.
35:02Juwan has, has been slow these last couple of weeks.
35:06And then the two firsts that he has are looking like potential bottom fours right now.
35:11Right. And by bottom four, we mean like high 27 first.
35:14Right. So, you know, it should be one of them could easily be the one-on-one.
35:19Yes. So those are two very good picks. So you're in a spot here where you've got a good team.
35:26You won last year. So you, you cashed already and you're in a little bit of a precarious spot because a chance out for the year.
35:34Hampton, you know, could turn it around. And if Hampton turns it around, then, then you're okay.
35:40But, um, Chuba's giving you some points. Brees Hall should be back.
35:44Hopefully this week. Saquon seemed like maybe he was back, but kind of was, you know, in and out there.
35:50Hopefully he can get right. Um, so she have, what would you say here?
35:55Cause it seems like, yeah, it would be warranted to go after some, some, some, something to add to this team, preferably
36:02maybe a running back, but it could be a receiver too.
36:06Um, and you know, Tyler Warren could be in a bad spot here moving forward where the Colts are heading, uh, as
36:13far as, but you know, just cause your team is bad doesn't mean you can't get a bunch of volume.
36:20Um, but you got two really good first. You don't have your second, um, coming into this year.
36:25You do have a third. It's not yours. And a fourth.
36:29Uh, so this is a little bit of a, of a tough spot to be in because yeah, you got some capital
36:36to sell, but do you want to sell it to, you know, you've won once you have a chance of being patient
36:43maybe, and just getting two more awesome pieces. Um, but you know, the, the competitor inside of you wants to try to
36:51figure out a way to, Hey, how can I collect some more things to give me a chance this year?
36:57Or do you kind of pump the brakes and just say, Hey, I'm gonna let the chips fall as they may.
37:04If I can find something good for cheap, that's cool.
37:07But I'm just going to kind of let my opportunity flow into 27.
37:12Well, first and foremost, I would like to say that I really like, I really like the squad.
37:18I just, I mean, you've been, he said decimated by injury, which is, I mean, there's a point where you're looking at,
37:25you're staring down at Devon H and Puka being out and then just playing that game with Puka every week.
37:31So I understand where, where you're coming from there in terms of the injury front.
37:36We pulled up earlier that, that one team that had Deshaun Watson and Geno Smith at quarterback.
37:42Where was that? So as I pull that up, I think that it's Kyle, he's got Jalen hurts who just got hurt.
37:49And then Deshaun Watson and Geno are his only two options.
37:53Yeah. Kyle. Yeah. That's good. But you're yeah. Going by the username.
37:57Mm-hmm. It's good. It's good. He's five and two.
37:59So he's in an okay position. He just lost hurts.
38:03And now he's playing with, you know, which, you know, we were playing with house money with Deshaun and Geno is, is a fun too.
38:11If you're playing one, like a scrubby QB build, but you'd like it if he was your third, but it's working all
38:18right for you now, but you have no stability there really.
38:22So you do are, you are flushing some quarterbacks.
38:25The thought process being that you could. Could maybe ship Baker off to this guy.
38:30Potentially. If he's, you know, takes two to Tango, of course.
38:33Now, this gentleman has to believe the story that you're telling him.
38:37He's a little weak at the running back position, but does it, does the pain of, because I would just straight up
38:44try to get, I'd try to get Sharbs and Josh Jacobs off of him.
38:49And just send Baker. Maybe after, maybe if Baker has a strong game this week, that's what, that's our point where we
38:56can start to get people to buy back into the offense.
39:00It's been bad for over a year now, but Zach Robinson's a terrorist, but that's not, that's not, that's not what we're talking about today.
39:08Today, we're talking about this roster review. And trying to figure out how to get this running back, how to get a
39:15running back onto, because you don't want to give up either one of those first.
39:20I'm not touching one of those first for Derek Henry, but maybe just maybe if this starts to go poorly for this
39:27guy, he'd be willing to sell you Derek Henry for your 28 first.
39:31Yeah. That's basically the piece that I'd be trying to float around there to see kind of who wants to tango with
39:39that and try to hang on to those 27s.
39:42Maybe you go, you're going to have a good time in 27.
39:46So, you know, and that should really help out some depth for this roster and equity for this roster that you have.
39:53So the 28 piece would be the piece that I'd be slinging around because you don't really want to be selling off
40:00too much off your team outside of a quarterback, but finding that match to get the proper value for a name brand
40:07quarterback, like, you know, golf or Baker, or, I mean, you know, if maybe you want to sell, maybe Kirk and Mendoza
40:14is an easier sell for you for a crappy team and Baker or golf is a, is a good sell for one of the higher winning teams.
40:23Right. So those would be kind of how I split that up potentially, or, you know, you, you also have, you know,
40:30guys who you like and don't like. So maybe you really like Mendoza and you don't want to sell them.
40:37That's cool. Um, but you're in good position there.
40:40So you have opportunity. Um, there's the one guy down here has, you know, this guy's, uh, in okay position.
40:46He's three and four. He's got 841 points. He has Josh Allen and Jaden Daniels, no real third.
40:52Um, but you know, maybe, maybe he would want Baker as a third quarterback.
40:57Probably not. Um, the Deshaun Watson and Gino guy, we talked about him.
41:01Uh, the Bo Nix and Malik Willis guy. He, he could potentially be interested.
41:06He's one in six, he might be more into a Mendoza, but like, who do you snag from his team that would really help your case of winning?
41:15It's probably only at this point, basically, uh, I'm in Ross St.
41:19Brown, which I don't know if he wants to sell him.
41:22Right. Right. So, you know, at that point, you know, maybe one of those first could come out and you get, you know, you get some picks back.
41:32If, if you could get a player of Amin Ross caliber and you think he can help you carry over, there is
41:39a Braylon Allen on this team, which you have.
41:42Bryce or a Brees Hall. Right. Um, which would kind of help stabilize your backup situation there.
41:47So I don't know what you could potentially get trade for, you know, somebody like a Braylon Allen, but, um, that might not be a bad thing.
41:56Are you paying 27 to for Braylon Allen? Well, he didn't have a 27 to, but, um, I don't think.
42:03Okay. Any two. Uh, if you have, if you have Brees, I don't think it's the worst, right?
42:09I don't love it. Yeah. That's a bad, that's a, that's a tremendous value spike.
42:13He's locked on the team for two more years and then he'll go somewhere else.
42:18You're gets a high, high value handcuff. Like he's, I'm, I'm a big Isaiah Davis guy, but, um, you know, that's not,
42:26that's not working out at the moment. So, you know, I don't know what it, what, if anything, that guy would take for, um, Braylon Allen.
42:34But like you said, that's, you know, can I, can I, he, you could ship it, uh, maybe your 28 too.
42:41I don't know if that gets it done, but, um, that that's not a terrible option, but man, generally, um, if you're
42:48going to part with one of those high end ones, it's gotta be a big deal, right?
42:54You gotta be getting something really good. Like is Ali Gordon on this team?
42:58That's two and five, uh, a rental for your team for this year.
43:03And you have a Chan. Like, is that, is that a, is that a possibility?
43:07How do you strike with something like that? Just throw that 28 too out there.
43:12This guy doesn't, let's see what he's got. He's got, he didn't have a 27 first.
43:18Yeah. That's a big, that's a big value spike and you're securing another backfield with a dude that can actually play.
43:25Right. I don't mind that. I don't mind that at all.
43:28Yeah. So, I mean, Ali Gordon would be somebody who I would go maybe see if I could target and find a
43:35way to potentially give this guy, um, you know, we talked about next year's pick or a three and a, and, and
43:43a player off your team from this year. Um, so I like, I like that.
43:47Like right now, those are kind of the best options from just not having to get off of a one that you have.
43:55That's going to be a high, high, high value one.
43:58And what do you, what do you think? What do you think about going and getting, going and trying to get Dylan Sampson off of this rebuilder?
44:07Hoagie heads. Um, I, I mean, I don't know if I had Quentin, if I had Judkins, maybe.
44:13Well, I just think that one, there's been some, there's been some injury concern with Judkins.
44:18So, and he just, I mean, first came back 77 yards on nine touches.
44:23And we know that that role with Todd Munkin, like he's going to have a pass catching back.
44:29That's why, I mean, Justice Hill played so much the last couple of years when he wasn't hurt.
44:35So I like the, I like the stash upside and the fact that he could maybe help you as a flex, give you some more depth.
44:43And even if he, I mean, if he's healthy and he gets the workload, I think Dylan Sampson's really good.
44:50I don't know. Yeah. I like, I think Dylan Sampson functioning with this offense with, uh, with Judkins is, is, is, isn't the worst.
44:57Right. And I like, I like it a lot.
45:00I think so. Well, I, it was an incomplete thought.
45:04So you, you go, you see, you see, you see, you see, you see, you see, you see, send Fernando Mendoza potentially
45:11for CJ Stroud, Mike Dylan Sampson as CJ Stroud's value to is CJ Stroud's value to a rebuilder.
45:17Like is Fernando Mendoza more valuable to you at that point?
45:20Or do you feel like you could sell CJ Stroud for more?
45:24Yeah. I feel like Stroud has, has rebounded enough where that's probably a net neutral for most people or, you know what
45:32you got in Stroud, at least at this point, are we, are we looking too deep into the RBs because he has, you know, Saquon could come back.
45:41Aaron Jones is all right. Um, you know, I like grabbing one of those backups, but like, if you could grab, like,
45:48if you could grab Ollie Gordon off that guy's team and then.
45:52Obviously. Yes. If you can get that, but I'm just, I was thinking about trying to move like the young quarterback to get something else.
46:00And then. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, I like the idea of moving the young quarterback on a, on a, to
46:07a bad team who could give you something decent for it.
46:11Um, I just don't know where that is at the moment.
46:14Right. But I think that's a good thought process.
46:17Um, where was the Ollie Gordon guy? Like what else does he have on this team that you would want to buy
46:25that, that could maybe help you in the future?
46:28Like there's not a downgrade of quarterback enough. I don't think to come like, you can't get Mendoza shuck and then get something else on top.
46:36Right. I don't want to go to Daniel Jones with those guys.
46:40Um, but you know, he has dart. Right. So right now he's Jones is his third.
46:45Um, like how, what I'm looking to do is like, what could I give him?
46:50That's a little more valuable to get something plus Ollie Gordon off his team.
46:55But he, you know, I don't, maybe he wants it.
46:58Would he trade Nico Collins away right now? Like, do you get, do you, do you try to see what that 28
47:05first and your third this year and something else can get Nico and Ollie Gordon basically trade all your picks from this
47:12year that aren't the 21st, which would be the third, the fourth and the first of 28.
47:18You try to go get Nico and try to go get Ollie Gordon.
47:22Um, maybe you toss him back, you know, make Juwan Johnson in that trade to just try to throw something else in there.
47:30Yeah. I mean, that's, uh, or Josh downs. He could be on the move.
47:34Um, let me go back up to, so that was kind of where I was heading is like, can I, can I
47:42get, can I add more stuff to it? So I'm just not buying that.
47:46I'm on, then I unload something bigger. I, I add Nico to this team.
47:51That's a two and five team. Nico's down a bit right now on a, on the last game or two.
47:57Um, so can I throw the 28 first, the 27, three, my 27, four, I throw them Josh downs.
48:03Can I throw all that at them? You know?
48:06So that's, that'd be kind of interesting to see if I could do something like that.
48:12Pick up Ollie Gordon and Nico. Um, I like the buckshot approach.
48:16I like that. Yeah. All right. Anything else before we wrap this one up?
48:20No, I mean, I just, I, you're in a really, really good spot.
48:24Don't do anything with those 27 first. And then if you can work out, if you can work out something to fortify
48:32that running back room just a little bit, you should be in position to win some money again.
48:37Absolutely. That's where we want to be at. Um, all right.
48:41We're going to talk some player values. We're going to answer some of the questions you got in the chat.
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49:52We've got one for this week. This, this past week was my first, the first time that I didn't win throughout the
50:00NFL season, at least one prize pick. So I'm, I was in the negative in this past week, but here we're, we're trying to bounce back.
50:08We got Tucker craft more than two and a half receptions.
50:12We got Jalen Warren more than one and a half receptions.
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50:26Go check out prospects is you haven't already. All right, Chev, let's pop a couple of these questions off.
50:33Then we're going to talk some Antonio Williams. We're going to talk some Justin Jeffrey.
50:38We're going to talk some Molly Gordon. Um, pop it off.
50:41Let's do it. Um, would you trade Higgins for Jefferson?
50:45No. Like dynasty, no redraft. Redraft. Yes. You don't hate it.
50:48Okay. Redraft. This is a guy said last week before on favorites and phase.
50:53I was like, I think T Higgins finishes the watch super one.
50:57I think he finishes the watch super three. Overall.
51:00Oh, I think, I mean, I think T is going to give you like, I mean, he's going to put up close to what Nico does this year.
51:09It's going to be the best year of T's career.
51:12Just stay healthy. Yeah. Missed the last couple of live shows.
51:16Listen to him on Spotify. Thanks for the content.
51:19Yeah. You can always listen later. Um, all right.
51:21We got appreciate you, James. Um, Christian Watson plus Scadaboo plus an early 27 second or Tedaro McMillan and likely or Sam Laporta.
51:29My choice. Would you take this trade? No Ted and premium.
51:33So Christian Watson Scadaboo for an early second or for Ted in either likely or Laporta.
51:38Yeah. I'd pull the trigger on Tedaro McMillan and the second and the tight end.
51:43Um, yeah, no, that's the second is a part of the second's a part of the camp.
51:48Scadaboo Christian Watson. Oh, plus the early second. Yeah.
51:51Yeah. Yeah. I think you're getting two premium players there.
51:55Um, I'd probably take Laporta with some safety there as far as where we're, we're, we're bouncing back a little bit likely
52:02looks great, but the McCarthy experiment has not been super kind to him so far.
52:07Um, so we shall see. Um, that's a, that's a, that's a decent trade.
52:11That's a, you get the big pineapple. Yeah. I just got to pay to play.
52:16Want to, want to, want to acquire as much of that as humanly possible before it, before he breaks out all the way breaks out.
52:24Someone offered me a late 27 first for Jonathan Taylor.
52:28I think he's worth more than one first. See.
52:31All right. I'm going to come back to that.
52:34Uh, baby face. She didn't even know that was you.
52:37Yeah. I mean, uh, me, uh, ladder, a buca, a buca, a big bowl.
52:41I'm assuming this is dynasty. Um, assuming, I mean, it's really there.
52:45It's the office meme. It's the same picture. Yeah.
52:48Um, so let's go back to the Jonathan Taylor one.
52:52Cause you had him on the docket to maybe discuss today.
52:55Uh, we've been discussing him. He's worth, he's in such a precarious spot right now to me, um, where I am very
53:02concerned if I am, uh, and you guys seem way less concerned than I, um, where I'm just, if I'm a contender,
53:10I'm, I'm concerned if I'm a rebuilder and that's what, and you got Jonathan Taylor, I think just hang on right now.
53:17If that's what you're, if that's what that is, cause he's definitely worth more than that.
53:22Right. Um, I just, I, I mean, I think we might be, we might be overthinking this thing a little bit, man.
53:29I mean, he's one of the, no, like in general, like if he goes somewhere, it's not the Colts.
53:35It's likely a team that's winning football games. It's likely a team that is probably better at running, like probably a more functional offensive environment than the Colts.
53:45Is there another running back? Heck, is there another place that would actually trade for him that has a running back even
53:52remotely close to the realm of player that Jonathan Taylor is?
53:55Vikings? No. The Seahawks? No. The Giants? No. So maybe it's just, maybe it's just a couple weeks of him getting fully
54:03acclimated to the system or they're just saying, screw it.
54:06We need to win. Let Boobie spin and him getting 20, 27, 28 carries and running for 200 yards and three touchdowns
54:13or whatever he can do because he is one of the five best running backs in the league.
54:19Yeah. Yeah. No, I agree with a lot of that.
54:22You know, I just, I just sometimes with the trade, things get weird.
54:26They do. But I think this is weird for the guys that are not physical.
54:31Like you're, we're at the end of their prime or we've seen some down years.
54:36Yeah. I don't even mean in that regard. I just mean, you know, just figuring it out with that.
54:42Sometimes it's cohesion right away and other times it might take a minute and it stumbles around and you're like, I can't
54:50start them with the, with the trade. And then I can't start them a week or two after that.
54:56And then, then you start them and it's like, for whatever reason, like, it's usually not asked with running back.
55:02So no, and I will, that's probably one of the easier transition positions.
55:07Right. Right. Especially if it's a, you know, a run scheme that you're familiar with and you've run out of a lot
55:14and had success with, which if you're trading for him, I don't know why.
55:19You wouldn't be running whatever this, you know, whatever the Colts are running currently.
55:23Hey, what do you like running? Okay. Let's do that.
55:26Right. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, it's interesting. We'll, we'll kind of see where he, where he lands.
55:32If, if anywhere, you know, I don't, we shall see.
55:36But yeah, they're probably going to spy. They're just going to hold on to him out of spite.
55:41All right. Antonio Williams was in, Antonio Williams was in one of those questions.
55:46And let's talk about Antonio Williams value. No. When we talked about Jaden Daniels, some no Terry for the rest of the season.
55:54It's going to be him and digs and chig.
55:56And yes, sir. So what are we, how are we viewing Antonio Williams right now?
56:01Like a Viagra pill to face, baby. Right now he's in super flex tight end premium.
56:07He's at 113 wide receiver 38. Okay. All that's cool and everything, but let's talk that shit about Antonio Williams real quick.
56:14So it just, it just hasn't fully happened yet.
56:17Now I will admit because I hate Clemson so much.
56:20I was out on Antonio Williams. I have since capitulated and admitted that you were right.
56:25I was wrong. This, this is somebody who can really, I think you're really who there's a Mecca booka esque upside with Antonio Williams.
56:33Like the first part of his rookie year, not the last part where he was bad.
56:38Like, but it's been fairly safe. I mean, I know we were talking to the group chat today and Jeremiah shared the
56:46thing with, he shared the thing about what Jaden Daniel said.
56:49But I took away from that, that he thinks that he's going to do well with the opportunity, which means he's going
56:56to have the opportunity to prove that we can build this thing around you.
57:01Or at least you can be a very large part of what we're building here.
57:06So, you know, when Dan Quinn was asked about Stefan Diggs, he wasn't, he wasn't alluding to him having a larger role,
57:13but seeing more from Traylon Burks, who, hallelujah. And Antonio Williams.
57:17So, I think with, I think that this is a tremendous opportunity for him to play his way into becoming the next
57:24rookie receiver, which we just did the 27 mock, or I don't know what exactly we call that.
57:30But that was a really fun thought exercise. And I think that the bucket that he could potentially fall into is he's
57:37going to end up playing his way into being a 27 mid first.
57:41Yeah. I mean, dude, I, I know you were, you were on this, you were on this.
57:47Yeah. I mean, look, you, you, you, you, you, you win some, you lose some right now.
57:52This looks good. Well, it looks good from what we think is going to happen.
57:57I mean, it hasn't been points on what hasn't been points on the lineup, but it's happening.
58:03It seems like it's all there. It just hasn't.
58:06The best thing, Casey, the best thing that could have happened to us is that 87 yard touchdown didn't count because if
58:13you, if it goes to NFL, like NFL, the NFL tweets that out and everybody gets to see how fast and explosive
58:20he looked on a, and it's not like they cheated.
58:23It just lined up wrong. So it wasn't that somebody did something wrong and like he created that out of basically just space and opportunity.
58:32So that's the best thing that could have happened to his value for right now, because you can still, people don't want to pick them up.
58:40But if you're getting a 17, 18 point a game score in there and then Terry McLaurin's gone, I think his value
58:47spikes up, but people don't seem to be catching on to the fact that he's making plays and stuff.
58:54There's an interesting trade here in the database that happened on the 23rds a couple days ago.
58:59Travis CTN or Antonio Williams. And you can vote on all the trades in the database, which is always kind of fun.
59:06I mean, obviously a contender makes, makes a ton of sense for Travis.
59:11Like the ETN side, right? But yeah, but I mean, any sort of middling or rebuilder and I'm, I'm going to be on the Antonio Williams side.
59:19I think that that's where we're going to get paid off for that.
59:24Yeah. Antonio Williams in a third for Rashi Rice.
59:27Tyrone Tracy and Antonio Williams for Amara on Hampton.
59:30I kind of don't hate that on the Hampton side.
59:33Bold strategy, Cotton. Yeah. I mean, then there's some really cheap Antonio Williams, Tyler Algier.
59:38That's ridiculous. Trey Tucker, cheap. Kirk Cousins, cheap. Even no quarterback in return.
59:42And super flex Emmanuel Wilson, cheap. Antonio Williams in a first for Brees.
59:46That's fun. That's a good, that's a good tier up tool.
59:50Yeah. So I mean, look, if you're going to use them in that facet, then I don't mind.
59:56But like, I'm, I'm holding on for dear life and still buying at, you know, at any cost that you, you know,
60:03two, two into three, multiple twos, late first, even that's where I've had him anyway this year.
60:09And I think he's, you know, I think he's that good.
60:12And I think, you know, Terry's older, had a struggle through the season.
60:16I was a big Terry fan. They bring in digs.
60:20We were excited. And now we're going to kind of get the run out that we wanted.
60:25Even the, they brought digs in and unfortunately Terry got hurt.
60:29And now we're about to see a little bit of what we kind of thought might be when we were in, you know, May, June, July.
60:37Right. Right. And him and JD seem to have a little bit of something going on there, but although Chig could have something to say about that.
60:46We'll see. I think he will. I mean, I think this is where we're assuming that this is not going to go
60:53well from a, from a passing volume or a passing ceiling perspective.
60:57And I think that this could be, this could be a place where they all have some sort of, but just a
61:05poor man's Chicago bears type outfit where you might not know where it's going to come from all the time.
61:11But they've got some good pieces that you can rely on to get you wide receiver to running back, you know, wide
61:18receiver to tight end fringe tight end one numbers.
61:21Yeah. John comes in here and says, is Chris bell done?
61:25I don't know. I would probably done with what done recovering from a tremendous knee injury.
61:30Did he get hurt? I had to Google it while you were talking there at the end, which is why I didn't say anything for a second.
61:39Um, so then he said, is Chris, would you drop Chris bell to shed points for the one-on-one is no, he's not scoring points.
61:47So what, what do you, well, no, no, no, I wouldn't do that.
61:51Um, is, does the 28 RV class look better than the 27 RV class?
61:56Uh, figure out who's coming out. Yeah. That's a tough, tough answer.
62:00Um, are waddle and or marks droppable? I don't think Woody marks is droppable.
62:04Um, I don't think waddle is droppable. I mean, I would assume that's a redraft question.
62:09Yeah. I mean, I, yeah, I got it, but, um, it's gotta be, it's good.
62:14Yeah. It's gotta be. But even like, I feel like marks has been as, as flexibly need them.
62:20Yeah. I'm not dropping. I'm not dropping. I'm not dropping at all.
62:24Yeah. How do you guys feel about me sending JSN for Jamar plus Stevenson?
62:29He also has Garrett Wilson, Henry and Coker. So JSN for chase and Ramondre.
62:33I, I would, I would try to get Jamar and Garrett Wilson.
62:37Yeah. I mean, if he's, I mean, if he's asking, if he's, I mean, he's fucking asking like, well, I could, he
62:44said he would give me Garrett Wilson too. Then yeah, I would, I'd do that.
62:49Jamar. I think Jamar is about to be, he's going to blow some shit up in the back half of the season.
62:56Um, well, this is a followup from a question before he said he has Jackson dart on IR.
63:02So he's wondering if likely is a better option for Laporta because of the combo next year.
63:08If it's, you know, I don't know the best ball stacks great, but like, I don't, I don't necessarily put more value on that stack moving forward.
63:17Then, you know, Laporta is a great player. So I don't, I don't think that moves the needle for me necessarily.
63:24Um, the best ball stacks. Nice. Um, favorite spot for Garrett Wilson.
63:28I mean, obviously the Niners would be cool. I don't think they're trading them though.
63:33Yeah. Um, all right, let's talk, let's talk a little Justin Jefferson for a second.
63:37So what do we do with Justin Jefferson right now?
63:41Is he, is he a buy? You got to buy, you got to buy, right?
63:46Yeah. Uh, no, that wasn't a convincing. I'm just getting tired of this shit, man.
63:51Why do we have to, why do we have to go through?
63:54Why do we have to go through these like dead periods just because you screw up at the quarterback position?
64:01Like, why can't we just get it? Why can't we just do the right thing at the quarterback position?
64:07Kirk Cousins should still be playing quarterback for his team.
64:10Sam Donald should still be playing quarterback. And now you got Kyler over there.
64:15Just, just using his big boy voice and all these interviews.
64:19And not doing it. Just not doing anything else otherwise.
64:22And we're getting another dog shit season from Justin Jefferson.
64:25We had the one explosion week with shout out to the one dude who decided to victory lap week one.
64:32How's that been going for you since? Big dog.
64:35Well, any who. Huh? About Jefferson? Yeah. You remember we did the fights video and he was like, oh shit, it's just so many bad takes.
64:43How dare you say Justin Jefferson is going to be good.
64:47Not going to be good. I mean, I would, I would assume that we'll have a run of Jefferson bouncing back, but
64:54I think it's over for Justin Jefferson by the time they get.
64:58Wow. I think that's probably an overreaction. This stream on amphetamines.
65:02Yeah. I think, I think it's a slight overreaction.
65:04He didn't forget how to play. And I don't, I understand what you're saying about the quarterback, but I mean, you know,
65:12I don't think that Kyler is going to come back here and say, you know, we're going to just target the bejesus out of them.
65:20But I think, I think we'll be, we'll have some games that remind you of Justin Jefferson.
65:25And then we'll kind of see where they're at coming into next year.
65:30I mean, it can, it can be a little, it could be a little rough, but I think, I think you got
65:37to close your eyes and buy it. You know, and I'm not saying like, no, I know you're right.
65:43You're absolutely right. I'm just saying that's the part.
65:46So we need to express what that is. That's all.
65:49Yeah. Real quick. We want the value. We want the value to be dropping down and then buying in.
65:56Right. I'm not saying buy Justin Jefferson at yesterday's prices.
65:59I'm saying buying Justin Jefferson. If the bottom is falling out.
66:02Right. Yes. Like if there's people who say it's over, I think it's over for Justin Jefferson.
66:08By the time they get one that has learned to play well, it will be 2028.
66:13People that feel like that go buy Justin Jefferson.
66:16Yeah. Go buy Justin Jefferson from that guy. Yeah.
66:19Like I, I just, the reason I said it that way is because this is a point where you have to exercise
66:26discipline in sticking to the process of, Hey, go buy good players when it's not going well.
66:32It's not fun. You're not going to be excited about it until it rebounds.
66:36You're like, man, thank you. Past self for buying Justin Jefferson.
66:40When he was putting up wide receiver 25 or wide receiver 30 numbers.
66:44Like just, you know, but it's not going to be fun to do right now, but you need to do it.
66:511000%. Right. Yeah. No, I'm, I'm, I'm, I think he's still a good player.
66:56I don't know how this season is going to go.
66:59Hopefully we see this offense get incrementally better here.
67:02You know, obviously you got the JJ crowd going wild for what he just did over there, which we'll kind of see how that goes and continues.
67:11Um, and, and good for good for the JJ crowd for, for being able to stick it to some people here and there.
67:18But you know, when you make that your entire personality, you get to the point where you just got to unfollow those kinds of people.
67:27Cause it's like, all right, man, like there's gotta be something for else.
67:31I got it. Like this is take your, take, talk your shit here and there, but like you just come off as a clown.
67:39It's just like, there's got, you gotta have something else to be able to talk about.
67:44Um, you know, is what it is. Um, anyway, but Justin Jefferson, I think, um, should, should be a buy low.
67:51Right now, if that's a possibility on the L and the flip side of this, let's talk a little Ollie Gordon for a second here.
67:59Um, and then maybe we'll hop into some power rankings.
68:02So, um, it hasn't produced an 18 months. Yeah, you're correct.
68:06Correct. I'm out unless he's super cheap. I mean, age cliff value though.
68:10See, this is the problem though. Like you could, you could go with the value cliff here with the age, like Justin
68:17Jefferson, like there's all the good, almost all of these good receivers are going to play well into their 30s.
68:24Like 30 is still going to be a stud season.
68:2731 is going to be a stud season. 32 could be a studs.
68:31Like, you know, like Devante Adams is still out there doing his damn thing.
68:36Now he did get nerfed for a couple of years.
68:39They're trying to bounce around and catching some injuries with him and his quarterbacks.
68:44But, um, but yeah. So I was trying to think of a, who, who's a, who's a wide receiver that like we
68:51just missed out on the whole back half of their career because of a, of a quarterback or can't get right situation.
68:58I was really struggling to come up with Odell.
69:01Yeah, I guess maybe he was overrated the whole time.
69:04Fuck no. A little bit just post injury. Maybe a little.
69:08Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like we, yeah, because you kept holding out that it was going to be, you know, but I
69:15mean, you, you very, if, if capable quarterback play, then he goes out and does all the awesome stuff that he did with the Rams.
69:23Like you could see that he'd still play. It's just, you know, you just need capable quarterback play.
69:29Yeah. All right. Let me find Ollie Gordon here.
69:32Not down far enough yet. All right. So generally though, I think people were very flippant about whether you should or shouldn't
69:39pick up Ollie Gordon and that it was a waste of fab.
69:43And now it has become a, in the redraft streets and most, he was owned in most dynasties that are, you know, maybe not an FFPC.
69:52But in any regular format of dynasty, he was probably already owned.
69:56All right. So we can see him right here at, I don't know if he was doing, I don't know what 270.
70:03So he's way down here. Right. What is Ollie Gordon's outlook for the rest of the season?
70:09And I mean, obviously this is a pretty cut and dry.
70:12If you're a contender, you probably sell, but if you're an HN rebuilder and you have Ollie Gordon, do you just hang
70:19on to him or do you sell him? What are you thinking about Ollie Gordon in the play that we're seeing right now?
70:27Okay. Okay. Now then, so I think that you have to, if you have, if you have a Chan and you have
70:34Ollie Gordon, then you just, you ride this out until, unless somebody is willing to give you what would be, what would be at the trade deadline.
70:43Somebody's just dead at the running back position. I sell for a late 27 first to a guy who I, you know,
70:50who a guy I'd knows headed towards the buy and maybe towards the championship.
70:55That's where I think this is going. I think he's going to play that well.
71:00He and Braylon Allen have really shown me something in terms of, and I was, I was extremely skeptical.
71:06You can go back and look at the readout on the redraft side.
71:10I was extremely skeptical about spending a large portion of your fab for Ollie Gordon because Oh, I wasn't even talking shit about you.
71:18I didn't know you were. Yeah, no. I mean, I, I, I mean, look, am I ever one to run away when I'm like, yeah.
71:26Yeah. So I was not a fan of this because we saw Devon H and who has confirmed awesome in football struggle
71:33behind this offensive line, but it seems like, like Ollie Gordon is, he figured it out.
71:39This offense figured it out. It got better. And so now it's a question.
71:43It's more so a question of how high can this go?
71:47And I think maybe a week or two from now, another strong RB to performance, or if he spikes and goes over
71:5420 points, you're going to be able to get somebody to get real horned up and really needs running back help and
72:01say, I want to buy, I want to buy my running back points.
72:05Gator needs some walking around money. And that walking around money is going to be an Ollie Gordon for a late 27
72:13first or 28 first, like just pushing it out.
72:16So it doesn't, if he just turns into a pumpkin, it doesn't hurt as bad.
72:21Like right then. But if, if you are an H and owner and you are, are, you know, if you're hanging on
72:28by a thread as an H and owner, yeah, you gotta, you gotta, I, it, it'd be, it'd be hard for me to do that.
72:36It'd be hard for me to pay that price.
72:39It'd be very difficult for me to pay that price.
72:42But if I was, but if you own him and you're the H and owner and you're, you know, on the lower
72:49end of the standings, do you sell them or do you hold them?
72:54I mean, sell them if you can, I mean, if you, if you can get the, so you don't, you're not worried
73:01about holding them as your handcuff moving forward. No.
73:04Okay. No, I mean, we, we would have, I mean, if you suck and you have a Chan, then you're going to
73:11suck when you have Ollie Gordon too, but you still suck.
73:15Well, sure. There, some things could have went wrong.
73:18She could have gotten unlucky here and there and then you get some injuries and now you're, you know, if you're there,
73:25then yeah, don't, I mean, don't sell, but also if you're going to continue to spike, if he continues to put up
73:3217, 16, 15, I mean, just pull that back up real quick.
73:36Like just, if he's going to score points like that, somebody is going to give you a pretty penny to get a
73:43pretty penny to get them off of you at the trade deadline.
73:47Or if there's no trade deadline, like he gives you another month of basically 17, you know, 16 and a half points a game.
73:5515 even if he's scoring 15 points a game on average, you're going to get, you're going to get something very aggressive.
74:02Right. For, you know, an asset that was very much dead.
74:06Yes. So yeah, I mean, it's, it's probably a, you should probably sell.
74:10I mean, he's got to hang around Miami for another year or two, right?
74:14This is year two of a four-year contract. Yeah.
74:17It's a six-round pick. The contract these poor running backs get themselves wrapped up in is crazy.
74:23Yeah. Yeah. It's not great. Um, so yeah, Ollie Gordon, man, crushing it looks good.
74:28Um, we, we've kind of, we had a, like a conversation at the end of last season about like, is it right
74:35or Gordon or who's the one to own? And it was hard to say and right.
74:40Wasn't looking good. And then right. Was looking good.
74:43And then got hurt. And right. Yeah. It's just great.
74:47Like that, just the, the life cycle of it is just like, Ollie might not have this opportunity had right.
74:53Not gotten a little hurt. Right. Exactly. You did just be like a nightmare timeshare where neither one of them is playing
75:00confidently enough to make a difference in your fantasy lineup, but shout out to Ollie for bouncing back.
75:06I mean, it's just, this has been a precipitous fall from grace considering where he was after he won the Doak Walker a couple of years ago.
75:15Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. All right. Let's hit some power rankings and then we'll, uh, well, actually I got a discord question for
75:22you that I didn't want to miss. I almost forgot.
75:26And then we'll do some power rankings. Get out of here.
75:29Um, one of the $7 holler homies in the discord who, you know, if you holler at us for the $7 holler,
75:36you get the extra episode, you get ad free, you get access to the discord, you get access to the, the, uh,
75:44premium trade calculator, all sorts of upgrades. And if you want, uh, there's even more upgrades that you can get holler at your boys, help your boys out.
75:53If you're, um, if you're able and willing. So he asks, I'm considering a tier up at RB.
75:59I'm currently, I currently have Chuba Ramondre and sharbs looking to move one of them and Omar Cooper, or even a guy
76:06like rice with my other wide receivers being burden Watson, Caleb Douglas and P wash.
76:11Uh, what are some running backs you would target to possibly get some packages sent out?
76:16So he's saying he wouldn't mind moving one of charms Ramondre or Chuba, maybe, um, maybe even move two of them and Omar Cooper.
76:24Um, so like a nice little package to go up in running back life, like trying to get something a little more, I guess, I guess.
76:32First of all, the question there is like, are you shooting for value and youth or are you shooting for playability?
76:39Right? So he's trying to tear up at running back.
76:42So he wants to go up in running back.
76:45So what, what, first of all, who are some RBs that you would like, would, would want to go up to right there?
76:53I'd be hard pressed to not. I mean, could you, could you target?
76:57We just talked about, I had, I mean, I posted our posted from our video and I just said, go buy Ashton Gentry.
77:05Hmm. I really liked the idea of buying, trying to buy, trying to use some of that to buy Ashton Gentry or
77:12Bucky Irving is going to be way much cheaper and you're going to be able to get the similar production.
77:18And Bajal Tootin is another guy that if you're, if you're looking at the signs, all the signs are there for him
77:26to actually, for him to hit in a major way, especially if you're trying to buy points in your lineup for much
77:33cheaper than what they actually should be. Right. So, you know, when you get into these situations, it's always like, Hey, I
77:40can, you know, Bucky Irving is a good example, right?
77:43If, if, if the, you know, the moon's line up there and the person who has Bucky Irving would, would be interested
77:51in somebody like Omar Cooper and trade you a little bit older Chuba Hubbard of like, Hey, you're replacing production with production, but we're losing the value.
77:59And now I'm coming over the top with Omar Cooper.
78:03Bucky Irving is somebody who I, you know, I wouldn't mind doing that with.
78:07Is that enough of a tear up for what he's talking about?
78:11I don't know. But if you get any much further up in this, you know, kind of ranking up here, like Hampton's a tough buy right now.
78:20If you're counting on this tier up to help you try to get after something, I mean, a channel would be one.
78:27If I don't need the points in my lineup right now that I'd go after.
78:32Right. Because he's banged up and out. I still very much am intrigued in, in Quinshawn Judkins.
78:38I don't, I don't know how much of an upgrade everybody views that as right now to Chuba, but you know, overall value wise, I like it.
78:47Value wise, you're value wise. You're winning. We would just need clarity on what the, what the goal is.
78:53If it's maximizing points, then I, no, fuck it.
78:56Yeah. We're riding with Quinshawn Judkins. I think that, I mean, is he a little touchdown dependent right now?
79:02Yes. But you're seeing all of the things with the skillset.
79:05And if the offensive line gets better, then all of a sudden we're back in the cement aisle using all the power tools.
79:13Yeah. So those would be some options potentially of some guys that would be, if you're trying to tier up in value
79:20and stay maybe on the little younger side, I don't hate any of that stuff.
79:25All right, Chev, you want to hit a couple of little power rankings actions before we, before we end here?
79:32And yes, we've got another upgrade here in the pipe for the power rankings as they continue to grow and we continue
79:39to use them, but we have a lot of fun talking about these.
79:43It's always a fun discussion. We usually start with it, but we're ending with it today.
79:48All right. This is kind of where we left off last week and, you know, we were kind of just wishy washy and it's, it's just tough, man.
79:58It's tough because, you know, there's, there's so many bits and pieces that you can, yeah, but on just about any team
80:05in the league right now and pretty much constantly in the NFL, right?
80:09So last week we left off with chiefs, niners, bills, Jags, and bears being top five.
80:14And that was much to big co's doing with the bears being in the top five there.
80:20Then Broncos, Ravens, Hawks, bangles, which you had a lot of love for show.
80:24Yeah. And a courtesy top 10 for the Vikings teams that we did not really discuss at all last week were Steelers and Patriots.
80:32I pulled them up. Packers just had a bummer of a game and we're not really sorted underneath that top like 10 or so right now.
80:41So don't really pay attention to those at the moment, but is there any team you really need to be pulling up right now?
80:49I think the commanders are better than their record, but no reason to pull them up.
80:54Bucks had a surprise last week. That was interesting.
80:57Chargers are staying. Falcons. Falcons. Got to bring the Falcons up.
81:00Yeah. Got to bring the Falcons up. Got to bring, got to bring the lions up.
81:06Got to give the Browns a little love. Got to get, got to get the Browns up.
81:11Who else did you just say? Lions. The lions.
81:14The lions. All right. So, so where do we, where do we put the New York football giants in the pantheon of football teams right now?
81:23Yeah. They're fine right there. I mean, you can move the Eagles now.
81:27Yeah. I mean, like I said, under the, try to discard them.
81:31Under the sea. Yeah. He could be out of here.
81:34If I could limit what you could see, I would limit it right now.
81:39I can't at the moment. It's all good. It's all good.
81:42So, but so, you know, I mean, the, the lions just beat the Packers Packers should have beat the lions.
81:49Um, 1000%, but ifs and nuts. So I would, I would have, I'd put the Patriots ahead of the Falcons though.
81:56Okay. I like the, I like the, I like the Patriots over the Falcons right now.
82:01Falcons just played a solid game against, against my Niners.
82:04And, and, you know, that was, uh, West coast team traveling East for a noon kickoff, man.
82:10Sure. And, and I, you know, I think they, you know, there are some dumb penalties and some, I hate, I'm not, not a big ref blamer.
82:19Um, I don't know how that Jordan walk in CD is in a TV.
82:23Yeah. That one caught me at that. And the Nick, the, uh, Jesse Bates pick.
82:28I did not think I was like, what? Show me what I did.
82:32I feel like I didn't see the other foot get down.
82:36Yeah. So, I mean, I thought the Falcons were good and then that line is tough and B.
82:42John's going to keep them in games and they got a stud in, in, uh, Drake obviously.
82:47And if, if they can find, if pits can stay alive and be good for them, Penix looks good, man.
82:54Like he's, he, you seem like he maybe got skittish there for a little clip, but seems to be kind of getting back to some confidence.
83:03So definitely shout out to the Falcons. That's a, that's a solid and improving team there.
83:08And they, they, they, you know, got a nice win against Sam Fran.
83:12So Patriots over Falcons. Uh, yeah, I believe so.
83:15Falcons over Browns. No. Okay. So are we, are we Falcons over Browns?
83:19Do you feel that way? I don't think so.
83:22I don't think so. I want to, I want to keep the, given the Browns love, um, because I think they're, they're,
83:29they're playing well and they're beating who's in front of them, but, um, all right.
83:34Lions over lions over Browns. Hmm. Probably, but it's, I think that's just like a pedigree situation at the moment.
83:41It is. It is a pedigree situation. It is a pedigree situation, but I mean, they've gotten built to ask from the two good teams that they played.
83:50Have they not? Detroit. Yeah. Yeah. They're, they're on shaky ground for me.
83:54I don't know. No, they're, yeah, they're, they're to me.
83:58They're just not, they don't have the same edge.
84:00They had a couple of years ago when they could like stop the run, but also they're getting Kirby Joseph and Brian
84:08branch back, which would be huge for their defense.
84:11Yeah. They got Brian branch back last week. Yeah.
84:14They got Brian branch back. Kirby Joseph's supposed to start, but I think they opened his window lines over Brown.
84:20Nick says, I don't, I don't know. I don't, I don't feel strongly enough to say lions, lions offense.
84:26Probably, probably got to give them the nod. Right.
84:29Yeah. Um, their best assets, right? The lions offense or Brown's defense, which one would you choose?
84:35I mean, lions offense, but right. It doesn't work that way.
84:38Exactly. But right. You can understand. Yeah. All right.
84:41So Falcons over all of those teams that we just talked about, but underneath Patriots and Steelers right now, I got, you
84:49got to put Patriots above Steelers because the Steelers lost to the Patriots.
84:53Um, and then the Steelers beat the Falcons, but that they didn't beat Penix.
84:57Pause. Uh, we hit that. Let's get it. Uh, we both kind of said, I'd probably just stick them with JSM.
85:04But if, if you could, if you could get Jamar and Garrett Wilson, maybe then you're talking about something, but I'm mostly just keeping JSN.
85:12Um, all right, let's see here. I got the Rams sitting outside of 11.
85:17I don't know. I'm sure you don't care for that, but I, okay.
85:21It's not my favorite. However, I there, it's very clearly a talented team, but they're just not closing out games.
85:28I think that they're going to be able to figure that out better than most teams because they've been there, done that, you know?
85:36And they have, they've got the guy at quarterback.
85:39Right. So like I always give teams a big time bump, maybe more than I should when they've got the quarterback.
85:46Yeah. All right. Let's run this top 10. Let's go from top down.
85:50Who's number one. I'll go Niners. All right. I was sticking with Niners.
85:54I'm going to remove myself from that conversation, but I, I see there's some weakness there.
85:59Who's number two. We've got Jags. Ooh, you love some Duval.
86:03I do. I hope it doesn't blow up in my face.
86:06Like the bucks did last year. Bills or chiefs bills bills, bills, chiefs or bears.
86:11I go chief still. All right. Where do we do with the Seahawks?
86:16Got a bump. Got to get those numbers up.
86:19I definitely put them. They've earned their way above the, they've earned their way above the chiefs for sure.
86:25Yeah. I mean, chiefs down. Rashi. No, no. Chiefs up.
86:28Hose down. Mm-hmm. Seattle with a big, with a big move there, but I, I felt like they were kind of there anyway.
86:36So chiefs bears at six. Somebody should be above the bears.
86:39I don't think so. I can't put the Broncos there.
86:42Yeah. No, we don't, we don't trust the Broncos.
86:45Now stop playing with my name and put the Bengals above the Broncos.
86:50All right. I like it. And then Ravens, Ravens or Broncos.
86:53I'm going to go, I'm going to go Ravens.
86:56Healthy Lamar. Good defense. Yeah. Broncos got too much to figure out right now.
87:01Yeah. Offense looks yucky. All right. So for the tens, we got Broncos at nine.
87:06Then we have Vikings at 10 and a courtesy 10 and the nine, 10, 11 spot.
87:11As, as anybody need to come up here and take, take these spots from these players, man.
87:17Do we, do we feel good about the Patriots over the Rams right now?
87:21I feel like I like the Rams. Yeah. I like the rim.
87:25I, I like the Rams as well. Vikings need to be bumped out of the top 10 or are we leaving courtesy top 10 right now?
87:34Leave it, leave it courtesy top 10. That defense is playing absolutely the lights out and Kyler Murray is doing the Trent Dilfer thing to perfection.
87:42Okay. So we're going Niners, Jags, Bills, Seahawks, Chiefs, Bears, Bengals, Ravens, Broncos, Vikings, top 10.
87:47That's what we're doing right now. I like it.
87:50I like it. All right. We'll save that one.
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