0:007-2 picking games on the season did take an L last week, but that's alright.
0:04We move with a winning record picking games against the spread beginning the show.
0:09The Detroit Lions minus three against the undefeated Minnesota Vikings.
0:12I will be placing my own money on this wager as we always do.
0:16The Minnesota Vikings, Dave, love to blitz. You probably heard this.
0:19Brian Flores, who said, you know, four is the average thing that you need to be doing.
0:24The Minnesota Vikings have blitzed on 71% of opposing team dropbacks this year.
0:28That is an insane percentage. No one else is even close to them.
0:32Last week against Daniel Jones, they blitzed on 85%, the highest single game rate since NFL NextGen stats started tracking.
0:38You might be saying, Davis, if they're this good, if they keep blitzing the quarterback, why would Jared Goff do?
0:44Jared Goff stinks. Why would we be wanting to do...
0:47Why would we want to do Jared Goff? Well, the thing is, Jared Goff, Dave, actually elite against the blitz.
0:53He is the best passer rating in the league against the blitz.
0:56He is .32 EPA per play against the blitz.
0:5953 completions on 69 attempts, 7 touchdowns, no interceptions.
1:02And I think it's actually pretty obvious to see why Jared Goff would be so good against the blitz because the decision
1:08is made for him before the ball is even snapped.
1:11He knows exactly where the ball is going to be going.
1:14When the whole deal with the Detroit Lions is it's not a freelance offense.
1:19It's not, oh, what if the defender does this, then I do this.
1:22If the edge comes here, I do this. It's, this is your first option.
1:27If you don't have that option, this is your other option.
1:30And we don't have a third option, right? Cause it's all, it's all just paint by numbers.
1:35It's the offensive coordinators in his helmet until the ball is snapped.
1:38So I think a lot of the obvious advantages for the Vikings are actually mitigated here.
1:43And you look, dude, you know, this is going to pain me to say the Minnesota offense stinks.
1:49So I think they are not set up to take advantage of what's so bad against the Lions.
1:54Dude, the Vikings are undefeated and they are 30th in the NFL in EPA per play.
1:59They are 25th in the NFL in EPA per drop back.
2:02And dude, this is so bad. I look, it pains me.
2:05I love Kyler. I do too, man. It's not it.
2:08He is dead last amongst all NFL quarterbacks, worse than Deshaun Watson, worse than Justin Herbert, worse than then Cam Ward in
2:15success rate, dead last in success rate. So the Lions have this shitty defense, but it doesn't even matter.
2:20It truly doesn't even matter for the purposes of this game, because what are the Vikings going to do?
2:26They're going to run Jordan Mason against this defense 27 times.
2:29I don't, I don't think so. Yeah, man, as a fellow Sooner bro, it is quite unfortunate that it's just, it might be over for Kyler.
2:37We saw him have like some nice little splash plays last week with his legs, but yeah, it's just, they got to figure something out offensively.
2:45If they do, man, they're going to be an absolute juggernaut.
2:48But I like the Lions quite a bit as well.
2:51As you're talking about Goff, he also has one of the best blitz beating wide receivers in the league in Amon-Ra St.
2:58Brown. Yeah, this could be really interesting from like a real life standpoint.
3:02If Goff is able to take down Brian Flores, I think, I know this is a, we're talking about spreads here, but
3:08a little sneaky MVP bet, Jared Goff, 30 to one on DraftKings.
3:12If he currently has 14 touchdowns, zero interceptions, if he can somehow have a spike week pop up with four touchdowns against
3:18a Brian Flores undefeated defense, we can see him jump up in odds quite a bit.
3:23So yeah, man, Goff nearly 2000 yards, 14, 14 touchdowns, zero interceptions.
3:26Nice little sneaky MVP bet. And I do like the Lions to cover minus three this week.
3:32Yeah, I mean, it doesn't feel that great to have Jared Goff against this fearsome defense.
3:36I mean, Brian Flores has had some games against Jared Goff where he has made Jared Goff look like a non NFL quarterback, you know, several times.
3:44But I do think St. Brown pacing to have a good game.
3:48I also think, you know, basically the Lions could come into this game and say, hey, man, we're just going to give
3:54the ball to Jameer Gibbs like 32 times. And he's going to need to ice up for the week after this, but
4:01we're going to get through this game here. And I also would guess that the Vikings are kind of a relatively public
4:08side here, a 6-0 team as dogs. I mean, maybe that's totally made up.
4:12But I guess to me, it seems like the Lions would be better than three points, better than the Vikings given.
4:18I mean, the Dolphins game, the Vikings could have like pretty easily lost that Dolphins game.
4:23Like they just think they got nothing. Yeah. And like just to bring up that point, it's like the Vikings defense is obviously very elite.
4:30Brian Flores is an absolute monster. But also look at the quarterbacks they've played.
4:34You know, they played Jordan Love week one. Okay, cool.
4:37Week two, they had that weather game against Caleb Williams, who kind of like not waived that.
4:42Week three, they played Jalen Daniels. Then they played the Dolphins.
4:46Then they played Tyler Shuck at the Saints. And then they played Danny Dimes last week.
4:50This is by far the best offense they're going to be going up against.
4:55It has elite talent everywhere, unlike their former opponents.
4:57So I would not be shocked to see the first L for the Vikings this game, just given the talent gap between
5:04the first six opponents and now Detroit. Yes. All right.
5:07So lock that one in. Dave, where would you like to go for your pick against the spread?
5:12All right, man. I, you know, I figured this is going to be quite the trap bet.
5:17I imagine the publics could be quite over this bet.
5:20I opened up DraftKings this morning, checked what I was going to bet on.
5:24And man, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are favored two and a half points against the Atlanta Falcons.
5:29They are playing at home. Baker is back. Their run game seems to be a little dominant.
5:34Bucky's being a war course. But man, to me, this came into a fancy team.
5:39Like for me, I think he's probably coach of the year right now, if not him, Kyle Shanahan.
5:44But I want to bet on the coaching advantage with the Falcons.
5:48I think B. John Robinson's probably going to have an outlandish game.
5:51This is definitely like one of the fish pick of the week.
5:55And I'm sure the public will be all over it.
5:58But give me Falcons two and a half against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
6:02Man, you know what? I actually really don't think it is.
6:05I do think the classic like divisional road game taken like this.
6:09This probably breaks like a million of like the old school rules or whatever.
6:13But I think if you just look at it kind of objectively, Michael Penix has been like legitimately good.
6:18He is 10th in the NFL in adjusted EPA per play right now.
6:22We're just not used to thinking of Penix as being like an effective, good NFL quarterback because we've seen some real lowlights from him.
6:29He was kind of like his career started so strangely because they gave Kirk Cousins the big extension.
6:35Then they draft Penix. And so it just started weird.
6:38But like, I mean, compared to Baker Mayfield, Mayfield is the only quarterback who has been worse than Baker Mayfield.
6:44EPA per play is Justin Herbert, which is not to say that Mayfield is this bad.
6:49EPA is more descriptive than it is predictive. And clearly the Buccaneers, you know, kicked a bunch of ass last week.
6:55The Falcons are set up to play very differently than the Panthers are, though.
6:59Like they're they're they're happy to run the ball.
7:02They're happy to, you know, take their take their shots when they are there.
7:06I guess one thing you could be concerned about from a Falcons perspective is their best player is a running back.
7:12And Tampa Bay is like an year over year, just like an unbelievably good run defense.
7:17Baker is playing with the special cast on his hand, so he doesn't have like full like efficacy or whatever there.
7:23I mean, they also absolutely whooped the Panthers last week, but kind of fake, though.
7:28Like, yeah, Bryce, which I mean, Bryce was basically like playing like a high school quarterback.
7:32Like, I don't even know. What do you even do with the results from that game where Baker Mayfield has 11 dropbacks?
7:39I don't even think there's anything to really take away from that game.
7:43Yeah, I just think there's a lot of variance that can like go in favor for the Falcons better is whether like
7:49Baker just, you know, we didn't really get to see him last week during the ball.
7:54Whether, you know, his thumb is still a little jacked up.
7:57The Falcons run defense has done great. I mean, they shut down Ben Johnson's running offense last week or two weeks ago pretty well.
8:04So, yeah, I imagine the Bucs are just going to try to ETR it here.
8:09But I like I like the Falcons to kind of stuff them up against Ben Johnson.
8:14Obviously, probably one of the most lethal run attacks on the game.
8:17Three yards per carry on 33 carries. They shut down a big dog.
8:21Like, yeah, I like the Bucs quite a bit or the Falcons quite a bit here.
8:26Just giving the matchup angles. And, you know, hopefully this doesn't seem like a complete donkey take when they play a divisional game on the road.
8:34100%. All right. There you go. So our picks against the spread.
8:37$50 wagered on both of these games. The Detroit Lions and the Detroit Lions minus three.
8:42I got that at minus 120. There might be a better price out there.
8:46I don't know. I just have DraftKings up. So that's what I did.
8:50Then the Falcons plus two and a half minus 110.
8:53And I think taking the money line there is also fine.
8:56And now we are going to go over to Underdog Sports.
8:59And we are going to go fire some pick'ems with our friends over at Mike Nuggets helping us out there.
9:05And I'm going to pull this up in the other window so that I don't have any issues with location.
9:11Because I found that if I use Firefox, I don't have any issues with location.
9:16So we can do whatever we want. And I've got some boosts in the lobby.
9:20And I want to go ahead and begin with one of the absolute spots of the week.
9:25The Arizona Cardinals. Okay, let's see. Dallas Cowboys. And what I wanted to see was what they had for Jeremiah Love.
9:32So they don't have any rushing yards yet for him posted.
9:35I don't care. I think that he's going to play this week.
9:38I don't think Tyler Algier is going to play this week.
9:42Can I interest you in Jeremiah Love anytime touchdown at 2.4x?
9:45I will never say no to a running back against the Cowboys.
9:49You saw how effective Saquon, even to a lesser extent, Damian Pierce was last week.
9:53Freaking Damian Pierce looked good against the Cowboys. Looked good, man.
9:56And I seriously believe if Saquon was fully healthy and played the full game, he would have had 25 fantasy points.
10:03He was just set up to completely nuke. 12 points on the very first draft of the game.
10:08I do think Jeremiah Love plays as well. He was limited in practice yesterday.
10:12A little tidbit. Last week he had a little charity event in Phoenix.
10:16And obviously, he's not running full speed. He's not actually cutting like he is in a real practice.
10:21But he looked quite mobile there. So, yeah. I think Jeremiah Love plays.
10:25And then, yeah, this front defense, man. It's truly incredible.
10:28Somehow, week over week, the Cowboys defense just gets worse somehow.
10:31I'm not sure how that's possible. But, yes, I had one of the Cardinals.
10:36I have about six to six. I got eight players that we can pick from that I find promising quotes on.
10:42The Cardinals were on my radar. So, yes, I like Jeremiah Love this week.
10:46Also, a great scroll down in the BRs. I mean, BRs this week are – it's a tough slate just because there's so much talent on the slate.
10:54ADP of 36 right now. So, he's not drafted at all, and his projection is not that far behind.
11:00It's kind of how I got into Tony Pollard last week and had a good week.
11:05Jeremiah Love might be this week's Tony Pollard. I love that.
11:08So, a little quote here from Mike Duggets that I think is relevant, which is that Matt LaFleur says that Michael Wilson's
11:15reduced snaps reflect a deliberate receiver rotation to keep him fresh.
11:18I think that is insightful on how they're viewing the passing game with all these dudes banged up.
11:23But the reason why I think that applies to Jeremiah Love is that if they are deliberately doing that, to me, that
11:30says they kind of view all their receivers as the same, where I think they have the running backs in very hyper-segmented roles.
11:37And if Algier doesn't play this week, I could see there being some fear-mongering about Bam Knight.
11:42But I would guess that Jeremiah Love will have a larger share of the backfield than Algier did when splitting with Bam
11:48Knight because Jeremiah Love was the third overall pick in the NFL draft, and he's not Tyler Algier.
11:54So, I really, really like Jeremiah Love this week.
11:56I'll be taking a bunch of his hires across the board.
11:59Where would you like to go next, sir? Yeah, I just want to bring this up right before we head off with Jeremiah Love.
12:07We have him projected for 11.5 PPR points, ADP of 36 right now, projected ownership, 1.5%.
12:11I imagine he gets touted throughout the week, especially just this game having a 54 total.
12:16But, man, he's just a phenomenal scroll-down option. And compared to some of the guys that are 100% drafted, his projection is
12:23really not that much less than those guys. So, I'm really into Jeremiah Love this week in DFS and more particularly on underdogs.
12:30So, I love to lock in Jeremiah Love. Let's go with Garrett Wilson.
12:33Now, I know a lot of people, or not a lot of people, the coaches in particular, have been very vocal about
12:40getting him the ball quickly, getting him the ball more often.
12:43And it just hasn't really happened. I think, like, Reich and Glenn has been saying this for, like, two weeks now.
12:49But, like, this week in particular, it feels like they're really pushing it, talking about how they want him to get him
12:56involved early, a lot more early, get him with Pepper and with targets in the first quarter.
13:01So, I was kind of wondering if there's any first quarter props we can take on Garrett Wilson.
13:06They are favored against the Raiders. Should be a pretty good matchup.
13:10No first quarter. Okay, no. It's a good angle, though.
13:13The Mike Nuggets quote of just saying, like, he specifically is calling out first play of the game coverages on Garrett Wilson.
13:20And then, also, the next one is about not regretting or, like, regretting not throwing him the ball in a late red zone play.
13:27I love this angle because – and I also love this angle for Jamar Chase.
13:31I guarantee you, bet my last dollar, Garrett Wilson and Jamar Chase have been in the offensive coordinator in the quarterbacks years
13:38being like, this ain't working for me, boss. Letting Amari Cooper sun me.
13:42Not working for me, buddy. I bet if you can get – I bet they have this on DraftKings, but, like, true,
13:48like, first play of the game result reception to Garrett Wilson.
13:51Yeah, what can you get on that? But, yeah, I like all the Garrett Wilson stuff this week.
13:57I think they're going to make a huge, huge attempt to get him the ball.
14:01Yeah, so I want to ask you, do you prefer targets, yards?
14:05Like, to me, all of it seems really good.
14:07I'd probably lean targets. I think targets or receptions.
14:10Receptions obviously works if they do, like, two screens on the first drive or whatever.
14:15But targets I like to – I mean, targets requires, like, a little bit more pass attempts or whatever.
14:20So I would say targets or receptions, whatever you want.
14:23Yeah, let's just roll receptions then. Yeah, let's roll receptions.
14:26I think he's going to get peppered. The coaches keep saying it.
14:30At some point, they're going to have to, you know, follow through with their word.
14:34I think this is the week we can see a little Garrett Wilson blow-up game.
14:39So – and, yeah, talking about Jamar Chase, like, one of these days he's going to have, like, a, you know, that 152 game.
14:46I would bet it to be this week. Yeah, man, two then.
14:49I was going to recommend him. This is an absolute smash spot this week.
14:54Like, I imagine he's going to come in, like, 30% on, like, DraftKings FanDuel.
14:58He's so cheap this week. It's just post-bye week, like, like, I mean, I don't even have to say anything about it.
15:04This is an absolute smash spot. No, the Forrest Buckner.
15:07The Colts are throwing in the white flag. This is – the Slappies are finally going to win this week, man.
15:13The two then is going to get there. 100%.
15:16I mean, this is the spot. The spot – also, just an interesting thing, if you wanted to take receiving yards on
15:23Mike Nuggets, there's a quote from the offensive coordinator, Grant Udinski, about thinking the backs have more ability in the pass game than they've been able to showcase.
15:31He's obviously lying about Chris Rodriguez Jr. in the pass game.
15:34Like, he is in no way, shape, or form.
15:37Is that the truth? So, I don't hate taking receiving yards.
15:40I want to see if they just have fantasy points available.
15:44I think – I'm just going to take fantasy points.
15:46I'm going to take 13 fantasy points for Byshell Tootin.
15:49My mental model has Byshell Tootin for about 47 fantasy points in this game.
15:54I absolutely love – I just think he's going to smash.
15:57I think he's going to get, like, 22 rushes.
16:00And the usage was all trending very well for him.
16:03He did not have – I mean, he actually had a great fantasy game in the final game before their bye week.
16:09He didn't have a great usage game. I think that was a true hot hand spot for Chris Rodriguez Jr.
16:15And you're like, he just was running well. I would not expect that to be the plan.
16:20I would not expect a C&E, a Mirabdula in this game until maybe he gets totally out of control in the fourth quarter.
16:27But big, big fan of Byshell Tootin against Indianapolis Colts.
16:30Think it's just like an absolute jam sesh for our – I love it.
16:34I think we'll get a lot of CLB on this line.
16:37For sure, yes. And we have him projected for 14.8.
16:40So nearly two points ahead and half PPR points for Tootin.
16:44I think this is just – you know, he's going to be a league winner down the stretch.
16:49Like, we're going to look back. It's like, damn, we were really taking him in, like, the middle of the fifth round.
16:56This is going to age really well. I love me some Tootin this week.
17:00100%. All right. Now we need the fourth leg here to take advantage of the way that Underdog works.
17:05If you guys don't know, the most plus EB weight – there's actually a table that explains this on UD.
17:11But you don't get fully penalized for flexing when you go to the fourth leg.
17:16So, Dave, what is our fourth leg going to be here?
17:19Yeah, man. Let's get some Antonio Williams. A lot of talk between both Dan Quinn and David Blau this week about getting in more targets and snaps.
17:27Obviously, with Terry McClung going down, that makes a lot of sense.
17:31Three and a half receptions. Wow. So good. Three and a half receptions.
17:35His plus money is really good. He's run over 40% of his routes in the slot, but it's actually gone up to 56% the last two weeks.
17:43Terry McClung was playing around 20% of his snaps in the slot.
17:46So I think just kind of attacking that slot angle where we see Cooper, the jeans kind of having a down year.
17:53He's playing in the slot. We saw Seedy cook him a bunch this past week.
17:57I just think, you know, from the actual role he's going to have in this game on Sunday Night Football and then
18:04just the target volume he's going to see as well.
18:07So three and a half receptions seems pretty nice to me.
18:10Yeah, just so much positive coach speak on not only his development, but just talking about it, like how smart, how good his routes are going.
18:18Yeah, I just love Antonio Williams this week. I think schematically it's a good matchup against Cooper, the jean.
18:23I'm going to hopefully run around half of his routes from the slot.
18:27So yeah, three and a half. I thought it'd be four and a half, honestly, but this is nice.
18:33100%. So this was one of the spots I absolutely wanted to check.
18:37I mean, I knew that, you know, you go to the coach begin next step or do you go, you talk about like, what are these guys doing?
18:45I knew the first thing that the coaches would say this week would be Antonio Williams is going to have a larger
18:52role in the offense with no McLaurin. And the thing that I thought was nice was that they actually brought up Stefan
18:58Diggs not having too much more on his plate.
19:01If you go to Mike Nuggets, like literally, and you search Stefan Diggs, the first thing you see is them saying basically
19:07more or less this dude's 33 years old. Let's let's maybe not try and target this guy.
19:12You know, every single play, every single down Williams is the one who has the most to gain from McLaurin being out.
19:19So we're going to get three and a half receptions here with the positive multiplier.
19:23If you do the flex with this little boost we have in the lobby right now, this gets us to a nice little 10 Xer.
19:31The most I can play is 50 bucks. That is fine.
19:34Garrett Wilson, four and a half receptions. Jeremiah Love, anytime touchdown.
19:37By Shelton, 13.05 fantasy points. Antonio Williams, higher than 3.5 receptions.
19:41Receptions, you absolutely love to see it. And now we are going to get, we're going to get a little bit more D-Gen.
19:48I got a good one. I got a good one for you.
19:51I got, I got a lot of stuff for you.
19:54I think the one I'm going to recommend is, is going to get, get you pretty happy, but let's see your first one.
20:01We couldn't, well, I'll just tell you this. We can't do any worse than Nez and I did last week.
20:07We did a eight leg touchdowns on the dog app.
20:10For some reason, this clip went viral on Instagram.
20:13Like the clip I did a bit, like really like 80,000 views.
20:16First time I've ever had anything go viral on Instagram.
20:19The amount of touchdowns on this eight leg app entry, zero.
20:22Oh, for, oh, for eight. So I think there's effectively no way that we can do worse than last week, brother.
20:29So let's, let's absolutely lock in and cook ourselves up an eight legger here.
20:33I'm watching the video right now. 70, 75 K.
20:35Nice man. Damn, dude, this had a thousand shares.
20:381,100 saves. People were keeping their receipts on this one.
20:41And they should, they should keep the receipts because it was not pretty, man.
20:45It was not pretty at all. All right. That is, that is okay.
20:49Cause we're going to do a lot better than over eight.
20:52Do you want to start us off? Yes. All right.
20:55So we're going to begin. I'm going to take an absolute layup.
20:59Cause I actually think it's priced insane. I'm going to take Derek Henry.
21:03What are we doing? Touchdown. I think Derek Henry in this spot should legitimately be like what?
21:081.4 X. I mean, this should be like 1.1 X.
21:11This should be like, you're, you're paying like minus a thousand to score.
21:15Derek Henry is scoring against the 31st EPA per play defense in the NFL.
21:19I got a, I got a qualifier for the $1,500 main event on dropings this week.
21:24I'm 1000% playing Derek Henry in the spot. Like at 50 something point total.
21:28I know the run stop or run game has not been great for the, for the Ravens.
21:33But if Lamar's back, like this guy's going way under owned.
21:36His ADP is like 16 on underdog right now.
21:39Like this is, this is insane. He's scoring two touchdowns this week.
21:42Honestly, if you want to do two touchdowns instead of one, I'd be okay with that as well.
21:48Uh, this price is just absurd to me. Uh, give me the big dog this week.
21:52I love it. You know what I'll do? I'll, I'll, when we get done, I'll click reuse picks and I'll do one
21:59of this with, uh, with, with two touchdowns as well.
22:02I love it. Uh, I don't know when's the last time we saw this type of pricing on it on Derek Henry
22:09touchdown, but I'm more than happy to take it.
22:11Uh, okay. I'm going to, man, I don't know if this is something we want to do, but let me look at Travis Hunter.
22:18Travis Hunter. Okay. Okay. Let me, oh man. Okay.
22:21Okay. So I wanted the angle I wanted to take with this is I wanted to, uh, slide, slide his receptions or targets to something absolutely absurd.
22:29Uh, basically their OC Kranjiecki today was basically saying like, Hey, we not sure like how exactly the workflow for him is
22:36going to go on a week to week basis.
22:38Some weeks he might have 10 catches and then the next week he might only have three and so on.
22:44So I wanted to take the angle and be like, Hey, I might just like bet like Travis Hunter, like eight receptions every week.
22:51And just, you know, hopefully that, uh, insane payout, uh, is worth it.
22:55And you're capable of doing it on like a week to week basis.
22:59But yeah, just for the viewers, just something to keep your eye on, on the slider.
23:04Uh, like if you were able to get like 10 receptions for Travis Hunter, something absurd, uh, just something to keep an eye on.
23:11So, okay. We won't, we won't do Travis Hunter.
23:14That's okay. Um, you know what, man, do you want to do something for tonight?
23:18Oh, I guess it's coming up. Uh, no, cause we're not going to, we're not going to put it out till Friday morning.
23:25Right, right, right. Uh, well then after this is done, you can maybe look into, uh, target craft receptions.
23:31Uh, okay. Nevermind. Um, let's go chase Brown, man.
23:33I know his role has been not great. He's losing goal line work to some Maja.
23:38Um, man, they, they, they want him like they big time want him to have a good game here.
23:44Like there's never been, there's never been a squeakier wheel than, well, maybe, maybe Jamar chase is actually slightly squeakier actually, but,
23:50uh, chase Brown should be, should be fairly squeaky this week.
23:54Yeah. Like, so his usage is a little bit better than what his numbers have been putting up with.
23:59He's on the by Leone model. And again, when we're giving you all these like coach, all these coaches quotes and whatnot,
24:06like it's something to use in tandem with other resources.
24:09So for me, when I see Zach Taylor saying like, we are counting on chase Brown to have a big game this week.
24:16And I, and I also look at the projection and I look that he's on the by Leone model, which by the
24:22way is crushing this year, kind of pairing all that together.
24:25It's like, okay, maybe this is like a nice angle I want to take.
24:30So if you want to go like two touchdowns, you want to go like a hundred brush receiving yards.
24:35I'm good with anything like that. If you want to really go out there, but I do think we're to see like
24:42a pretty big chase Brown explosion game coming, uh, in the coming weeks.
24:46I mean, he had a, he had a great opportunity to score a touchdown last week and it was just like a
24:52weird, like stoppage of play thing that led to P Ryan coming in.
24:56So I don't think there's much of a reason to really be like chase Brown's lack of ability has been concerning, but
25:03the usage has honestly mostly been fine. Um, you know what?
25:06I'm just going to toss the toot and touchdown on this one.
25:09Well, it's just like, by shell by shell toot and is, uh, you're not even going to like get, get a first quarter touchdown on that one.
25:17It's a, it's happening. He's going to, so like, obviously he's been amazing this season.
25:22McCona has really like emphasized like how amazing he's done on everything that he's not actually like innately good at.
25:28So like he was talking about like how good he has been in pass pro and is receiving, but we haven't seen
25:34like his, you know, call to fame, which is like he in a big home run run.
25:40We haven't seen that yet. So I do think this week is the first week we see like that four, three speed get used.
25:47We see like a 60 yard touchdown. So yeah, I love tuning this week.
25:51I don't know. We don't got to talk more about him, but he's an absolute smash in the effects and props and everything.
25:58A hundred percent. Yeah. It's, uh, it's all happening for, uh, for Mr.
26:02Tootin. All right. So we've got Derek Henry. We've got chase Brown.
26:05We've got by shell toot. Where do you want to go next?
26:09I was going to say maybe Michael Wilson touchdown, uh, someone else who's on the by Leone, uh, some positive coach speak on him.
26:16It's just like, Hey, they're playing the Cowboys. It's a 55 total.
26:19Uh, you know, he's getting pepper with, honestly, really, really nice multiplier there as well.
26:244, 6. Wow. Um, yeah, just so it's a bet on Michael Wilson bouncing back this week against a really depleted, uh, Cowboys defense.
26:31And, you know, I'm not even sure like if Joey Porter is even going to line up with him just because there
26:38is a lot of talks about Kendrick Moore now playing the X, which would be kind of insane.
26:43But, um, yeah, I don't, I'm not sure if he's going to see a ton of Joey Porter this week.
26:49So yeah, I just like Michael Wilson this week.
26:52They're going to throw a bunch. Uh, this is a smash smash touchdown bet.
26:56Yeah. Yeah. Um, I'm hip with that one. I, I quite like it.
27:00I think that the, there were like those two weeks where everyone was very excited about Michael Wilson and he's kind of
27:06regressed to type, but actually if you look at his receptions and the yards he's expected to get his, his props actually
27:13have not moved much, which means coming, coming from on high, the, the tall towers in Vegas, they are seeing some things
27:19that we are not necessarily seeing there. Um, all right, I want to go to the, uh, chiefs Broncos game and I just want to check.
27:27Oh, okay. 1.67 X or a Walker touchdown that translates like minus like one 80 ish.
27:32I think look, was it painful last week? Kenneth Walker not scoring.
27:35Was it painful to, you know, I actually, he had a great quote after the game.
27:40He was like, yeah, I left the field. No, I didn't talk to those guys.
27:44That shit sucked. No, I got, I got out of there.
27:48He's like, I didn't want to watch them celebrate this win against my team.
27:52The, I don't think the chiefs offense is going to be very good here.
27:56I'm not like expecting like this big bounce back or anything.
27:59What I do think is unless they get a trade for a wide receiver in the next like 48 hours, I would
28:06expect like a lot of Jake Brenning stool and, and heavy personnel.
28:09I think they're just going to try and get out of here unscathed.
28:13They're going to say, Bo Nix is not good enough to beat us.
28:17We're going to run. Kenneth Walker is going to run 28 times in this game.
28:22I mean, he had what a 37 fantasy point in the reverse of this in Kansas city, the first week of the season.
28:29I think Kenneth Walker, anytime touchdown is, is beautiful here.
28:31There's no way he has the same game he did as he did in week one.
28:36Right? Like they got to do something to stop him.
28:39Like, I mean, I hope not. Like I, I have so many heavy bags of Kenneth Walker offensive player of the year.
28:46So like a big, big game here would be, would do wonders for that.
28:50But yeah. I would imagine like after the game he had in week one, he wouldn't be able to match that again, but we'll find out very soon.
28:58She's only one and a half, man. I assume it's in Denver now.
29:02Uh, yes. Yeah. This is, this is in Denver.
29:05Okay. Makes sense. Um, man. God, please God. Just like Kenneth Walker went off.
29:09Just let, just let him cook. Just let, just let, just let my guy cook, man.
29:14I do worry a little bit that he, I don't maybe, I mean, you watch the chiefs game, chiefs games in much more detail than I do.
29:22Is he just like not a great goal linebacker?
29:24I feel like he gets stuff more than he probably should.
29:28And I don't know if that's like offensive line play, if that's a him thing, but obviously it's that he just like,
29:34I mean, I don't think he's any worse at it than, you know, Emma Johnson would be or anything.
29:40I do think that he is always like, he's a bouncer.
29:43He just is always kind of trying to find, he doesn't love to just lower his shoulder and just push through.
29:49Like, that's just not real. So even the game before, so the game against the chargers, he had two touchdowns.
29:55I mean, the second touchdown, it looked like he was going to get stopped.
30:00And then he is like in an arm tackle and spins out of it and like runs around his blockers to get into the end zone.
30:07But yeah, I mean, maybe there's a little bit of a fancy play going on there.
30:12You know, I, I could see that being true, but I mean, they're just, they're just going to be able to run downhill this whole game.
30:20I think I met Kenneth Walker three years ago.
30:22Uh, so I used to be amateur boxer. I competed in everything and you know, I quit because I don't want CTE,
30:29but, uh, he came in over the off season.
30:32I guess he lives in Dallas over the off season and he came in, uh, for a coaching lesson with my coach
30:38and my coach had to like pick up his kid like last minute or something and had to leave.
30:44So it was just me and Kenneth Walker and I was training him on his first boxing session.
30:49But I just want to say like this dude is so incredibly small, but like the biggest muscle hamster I'll ever come
30:56across to a cost in my life. Like, uh, he literally is just like stone cold bill out of like rock, man.
31:02It's straight up rock. That's what his muscles look like.
31:05Uh, but absolutely just like such a nice guy.
31:08I just wanted to throw that little story out there.
31:11I fucking love him. So, uh, yeah, I love betting on Kenny dubs, Kenny, Kenneth Walker.
31:16So, uh, how many are we at right now?
31:18Five? Uh, yes. Yeah. So we need, uh, two more from you.
31:22One more from me. Um, all right. I had some written down and then I realized that tonight is not an option.
31:29Uh, why don't we just go? How do you feel like, how do you feel about it?
31:34I don't feel great about it. I don't feel bad about it.
31:37It's clear. They're trying to scheme stuff up for him.
31:40Why don't we just take, why don't we just take Bucky or Bichon?
31:44Yeah. No, no, no, yeah. Let's do Bichon by low model.
31:47I was going to say big time, big time by low model on Bichon after the most recent two weeks.
31:53Yeah. As long as the last two weeks was 23 yards.
31:56That's not going to stay, man. He's going to rip a long one this game.
32:01Uh, I love Bichon this week. That's a, that's an easy one to pencil in.
32:05Yes. Uh, all right. I just want to see if they have this posted.
32:10Um, I want to see if they have Eli Mitchell posted for, we have a sick production on him this week.
32:16We have, I know, I don't, I don't think they will have Eli Mitchell posted yet because Saquon is not officially ruled out yet.
32:23Okay. So they didn't, whenever, whenever that does get posted though, I would encourage you guys, uh, to go take a look.
32:30I want to look at a Monday night as well to see what we have here.
32:34Swift is 1.79 X. I mean, come on, dude.
32:37No dude burden, burden at, at almost burden at almost three X.
32:41There's no, I guess. Tell me if you think I'm, I'm wrong or right on this one.
32:46I think there's no putting the genie back in the bottle.
32:49I think that after that performance against the Patriots, you, you got, if you're Ben Johnson and you're as good at your
32:55job as everyone says you is, and Cole commit is out.
32:59How are you possibly going to limit my guy Luther Burton?
33:02How are you going to say, Hey man, the best thing for us to do as a team is to get John A Walker on the field.
33:10I can't, I don't think so, man. I don't think Sam Rauch playing 60% of the snaps is going to work.
33:16Yeah. I wasn't even going to say like, just obviously his performance was amazing.
33:20It's just like the Cole commit injury, I think is going to be massive to their usage of three wide receiver sets, 11 personnel.
33:28Uh, I think we're seeing a massive snap share for Luther Burton this week.
33:32Now, whether that's say the Cole commit injury or just because, you know, he finally is showing the world that he's fucking amazing.
33:39I mean, yeah. Give me some burden this week.
33:41I was just really into the, to the bears wide receivers in general, whether that's burden or Rome.
33:47So Rome, Rome like physically makes me angry to, it makes me, yeah, it's not, it's not fun.
33:52It's definitely not for a fun sweat. The offensive, the offensive pass interference, full arm extension into drop touchdown.
33:58As I was just like, God, that just, you just know they were all, they're going to watch film as a team on Monday, the receivers room.
34:06And they're all just going to give him so much shit for that.
34:10They're going to be like, this is the worst dude.
34:12What are you doing out here? All right, man.
34:15We got seven legs. Take us home with our final pick here.
34:19We're at 85 X right now. 86 X. Let's just keep it simple.
34:23Let's bet on our generations with Danny and Tomlinson.
34:25Let's just go to mere Gibbs. Uh, why not by low model.
34:29Uh, by Leon. I was going to say, I bet this is actually priced like not that crazy this week.
34:35I mean, it's still priced pretty crazy, but very, very reasonable.
34:38But I kind of like playing into our, until our angles of like the Falcons winning and the lions winning.
34:44Let's just bet on the two starter running backs, uh, to score a touchdown.
34:48The 10 to win 1,144. That's nice, man. Will you, uh, link that in our, in our stream, your chat.
34:54So I can also take that right now. Yes.
34:57I will put that in. Oh, uh, is my security code to log in.
35:01There we go. All right. There we go. $10 to win a thousand.
35:05Derek Henry cashes in against the bills. Chase Brown squeaky wheel gets some grease by shell toot and breaking out two touchdowns.
35:11Last game, Michael Wilson, everyone scores against the Dallas Cowboys.
35:14Even Makai lemon. Kenneth Walker doesn't do it against his old team.
35:18We'll do it against the Denver Broncos. Bijon Robinson, two down weeks.
35:22They're not going to keep a good man down three weeks in a row.
35:26Luther burden with one of the largest breakouts we have ever seen is going to continue to punish the Seattle Seahawks and Jameer Gibbs to round us out.
35:34Eight legs, 10 bucks into a thousand. Uh, absolutely beautiful.
35:37And I, you know what? I'm actually going to reuse these picks.
35:41I'm going to click another boost and I'm going to do the flex as well.
35:45Uh, there we go. All right. We are, we are locked in boys.
35:49Um, there we go. All right, man. Are you, uh, are you ready to talk survivor?
35:54I am, man. I, so as the viewers know, I went, we both Davis and I went full in on the charges the first couple of weeks.
36:02So I just assumed my season was just like absolute toast.
36:05I somehow have two of the remaining 94 big splash entries.
36:08And what's really fun is there's only five 49ers teams left.
36:11I have two of them. Uh, so lots of leverage there.
36:15Uh, one of my entries with crutches, uh, we have both the Niners and the Jags as well, uh, by all the models and Sims we've ran.
36:23Uh, it's by far like the highest EV entry left.
36:26So, uh, I'm at the point where like, oh shit, this is, this is getting real.
36:31So I've been hyper analyzing the fuck out of survivor more so than I was earlier in the year.
36:36So I'm excited for survivor this week. It's really just asking yourself like, and especially with this Jeffrey Simmons news, I can't
36:43imagine the Bengals coming less than like 40% on this week.
36:46It's just deciding, do you want to take the Bengals route?
36:49Do you want to take the Jacksonville route? Uh, do you want to take, uh, the commander's route?
36:55Maybe if you want to get a little bit contrarian, uh, what is your leans for this week?
37:00Uh, I'm excited to break this one down. All right.
37:03So my lean on the week is that the Jags on entries where you have them left are just too good to burn them.
37:10Um, now I agree, particularly, particularly so in the, the big, uh, survivor revival, they, so there's the 5 million survival revival.
37:17It goes into double picks very early, starts going into double picks in week 12.
37:21Um, and I've got a, I've got an entry in that.
37:24And then I've got four entries left in this wool cast pool.
37:28So they get Tennessee week eight giants, week 11, Tennessee, again, week 12 Pittsburgh week 14.
37:33And they actually get the commanders, uh, who are going to be like a three win team there in, in week 17 as well.
37:40Meanwhile, the Bengals, I actually think are in, um, I mean, they're, they're in spots where you would not really there.
37:46They're kind of the worst survivor spots actually where they're favored a ton, but not favored by very much like the, I
37:53think this is one of the most interesting things to do with the modeling is what do you do with a team?
37:59Like the Bengals that is favored by three, by four, by three, by five and a half, by, by a point and a half.
38:06It's like, okay, well, yeah, they are favored a ton, but if you're assuming that they're favored, they're favored in a lot
38:13of those games, but not by a ton that they could lines could get moved pretty easily.
38:18Like, oh, uh, left tackle is out or whatever.
38:21Um, okay. Well, then all of a sudden this team that I've been saving, uh, is not going to be a ton.
38:27Now, not the optimal pick in the week I was saving them for.
38:31Yeah. So the question to me is like their favorite 11 and a half this week, it might even go up after all this Jeffrey Simmons stuff.
38:39Uh, the next viable option they have in, this is double pick weeks and the big splash survivor.
38:44And I think the revival, but week 12, week 13, there's seven and a half point home favorites against the saints.
38:51And then six and a half point favorites at Cleveland.
38:54Those are the two only options I would ever consider them.
38:57Uh, they also have week 18 home at Cleveland minus 10.
39:00Uh, I just, there's no shot. The a hundred dollar splash is still running by then.
39:05So I haven't even considered that, but yeah, to me, it's pretty easy.
39:09I think they're good chalk this week. They're yeah.
39:12I'm, I'm, I have two entries left. I'm going to be playing them and probably both of them.
39:17Uh, and if not maybe Philly at minus six, just cause or not Philly commanders minus six, cause they're not favored again,
39:23uh, until week 13 where they have the Titans, but they're only one and a half point favorites there.
39:29So, um, those are the two options for me.
39:32I believe only 40% of the field have, uh, the pats left and this big splash I'm in.
39:37So be curious to see how they do there.
39:40But yeah, to me, it's just, it's the bangles week.
39:43Just click them and forget and move on to next week.
39:46All right, man. Let me, let me toss something out to you.
39:50Okay. I'm all ears. Really? It's really dark, dude.
39:52The Washington commanders are effectively unclickable. There will be no, there will be no other week where the commanders are favored.
39:59Correct. Truly on the look ahead lines, the closest spot is Tennessee.
40:02Yeah. That's, that's like really the only spot. Um, the commanders, I assume at any given point will be without Jaden Daniels.
40:09Like who knows when that happens? Will it be this week?
40:12Will it be next? Like at some point, Jaden Daniels will not be playing.
40:16And so therefore we'll be totally off the board.
40:19Um, I would obviously much more want to do this in double pick situations.
40:23So, um, I don't think I would want them in the, the revival right now, but in this pool right here, this
40:2925 K pool that I'm in, the double picks are, uh, insane.
40:33They start to, they start to go like, uh, absolutely nuts in starting in week 12, it's double picks the rest of the way.
40:40And I think in that spot, um, where my entries have been fairly chalky.
40:44I mean, all the ones that are left were those Houston entries.
40:48Um, I, I think I might do at least one Washington commander.
40:51I think in the, in the big pool for you, I think it is bangles lock it up.
40:57Just like, well, take your, I'm considering commander seriously, just because week 11, I still have a week 12 again, double pick week.
41:04I still have the Jacks to you. So I would probably take a minus 11 and a half against Tennessee.
41:10And then everything after that's a little dicey, like Cowboys play a divisional game on Thanksgiving.
41:14Those can get kind of gross, but against the bangles at home minus seven and a half is another spot I really want to look into.
41:22So I, I 1000% I'm going to play either the commanders or the bangles.
41:26I just, it'll probably come down to the last minute when I decide on which, but, um, yeah, I think kind of
41:33Davis's point, like in the more like larger contest, like the one I'm still sweating, I think bangles is probably the optimal
41:39move and something like what you're doing. I do think commanders is probably the right choice.
41:44And again, like you said, they don't have a single quote unquote usable week and they carry like a higher risk than
41:51probably any other team where they're starting quarterback can just go out at any given time.
41:55Yes. Yeah. A hundred, a hundred percent. Um, I mean, fricking Rams dude.
41:59I wish. Yeah. They're, they're having, they're having an instant.
42:02You know what? Actually, let me, let me draw it.
42:05Let me actually say this right now. The commanders are insanely good picks because the Eagles don't even really want to win these games.
42:12I mean, I think that, I think that's actually the more, the more interesting thing that starts to get into, um, that
42:19starts to get into some of the dolphins stuff where like the coaching staff and all the, like, they're all kind of
42:26making decisions that like, none of this really matters.
42:28You know, obviously players don't tank. I'm not suggesting that any of the Eagles players on the field are not going to be giving it their all.
42:36But like Devonta Smith, isn't going to play Saquon Barkley is not going to play.
42:41If anyone else is kind of banged up, they're probably not going to play.
42:45Whereas the commanders, they lose this game. That's it.
42:48Season's over. Dan Quinn, you're done. Uh, I don't know whoever their GM is probably probably he got hired in 2024.
42:54So maybe he's got one more year, but like it's, it's organizational upheaval.
42:58I will say for the dolphins, at least it's maybe like Jeff Happley has like a longer leash given like the situation
43:04is in and then the opposite where like Nick Sirioti might be coaching for his job.
43:09Um, so yeah, I agree. If, I mean, the Eagles are a smart organization, how he's a good GM, like they don't want to win.
43:16They want a high top, you know, five to eight pick and this loaded draft class.
43:21Like they, this is what they want. So, uh, I do think in the back of their heads, they're kind of, obviously
43:28they're going to say tank, but you know, they probably are.
43:31Um, yeah, yeah. And I have a very tough decision this week.
43:35Uh, commanders, man, I thought I was just smashed bangles in both my entries, but I might have to, I might just yellow and go commanders on both.
43:43And yeah. Have you considered, uh, selling any of the equity of these entries?
43:47Not yet. No, it's still pretty early. Like I, so I personally think the contest and the big splash is going to
43:54be over by like week 13 or 14. And just given that I'm one of the only few teams left with the Niners and the Jags.
44:01Like, I think that's a lot of leverage. I think I'm just going to try to win, man.
44:07Like, unless someone like offers something insane, I don't think I'm going to sell any of it.
44:12I think I'm going to get spot and I'm just going to hope to run good with variants, um, and try to ship it down.
44:19So I'm willing to chop whenever that option is available, but yeah, I'm ready to, I'm ready to try to win it.
44:26You know, that is a really interesting thing about the, the big, big survivor pools.
44:30Like imagine how big it's going to be next year, you know, with the, like the, the sizing of these is going
44:37to get crazy is you, you start to reach a certain size and it starts to be like, well, man, this is a really crazy top heavy contest.
44:45Like when should we start thinking about a chop?
44:48Like when should we start being like, Hey man, we've all, we've all made a bunch of money here.
44:53Yeah. Like I, I told, I have the entry of crutches.
44:57I told him like any chance we get to like 250 K like, you know, I'm good shopping there.
45:02Uh, I'm happy with that. Uh, we'll see the, like, again, the entry is like really, really fucking strong.
45:08So again, I think we're in a good spot.
45:11I just need to like run like the sun now and hope it goes well.
45:15So we've already ran really fucking hot voiding all this talk up to this point, but yeah.
45:20Uh, go Niners, go Jacks is a super entry.
45:23That's what they're saying. Yeah. And it's like a, it's like, it's also like a really interesting thing.
45:28Cause I think you can easily, uh, learn more long, the wrong lessons from survivor.
45:33We're like, okay, you were, you were, uh, one of the people who took the chargers in week two and you're like, good on you, man.
45:40You were so smart. You took the lower, like, why not just take a team that's guaranteed to win LOL.
45:46But then like, if you just took the LOL, no way this team loses, you're already out.
45:51I mean, look at J Mac, like J Mac has already gotten like a shit ton of his entries wiped out at
45:58just taking the biggest favorite every single week when there, there is real value in playing strategically in these contests because so many people are not playing strategically.
46:06So you can play in like an exploitative strategy relative to, to ownership.
46:10It's, it's not as simple as just like, okay, we'll just take the 49ers.
46:14They're favored by a lot. Yeah. And now they're competing against like super entries that, you know, when the Niners are playing
46:21like, um, like in week 13, when the contest like more than likely supposed to end, it's like, uh, that week San
46:27Fran is playing, uh, who are they playing that week?
46:30Uh, yeah, they're playing the giants as seven point favorites.
46:33Like, well, even next week against the, the, the Raiders as 10 point favorites, like, uh, you would have to play like
46:40a lot riskier team than I am. And yeah, it's just like, I, it's just like, I think in the moment people
46:46are very easy to be like, yeah, let's just like try to have a sweat for as long as we can.
46:53But like when the money weeks are actually starting to come and like, when it starts to matter, you're like, well, shit, I'm still alive.
47:00But the, you know, this lineup I'm going against is 10 times more likely to win because it has a 10 point
47:07favorite and I'm playing a one point favorite, you know?
47:10So yeah. Um, long winded way to say, she's like, you know, think ahead, you know, no one's making money until, until
47:16week 14, 15, 13, whatever that is. I like it.
47:19I'm convinced. I'm convinced. Um, I am taking the commanders on every entry remaining in this world.
47:24Wow. They're not going to lose. They're not losing.
47:27LOL. They can't lose, right? They can't lose. They're not there.
47:30And if, and if they go out, I'll go out on a, I'll go out of my funeral pyre with my guy, with my guy, Dave.
47:38God, like, yeah, I maybe I'll do, you know what?
47:41I'll do one bangles. I'll do one bangles. So at least we have a pick to make next week.
47:47I am. God, I, I have so much to think about whether I want to play commanders or not.
47:52Like, you know, honestly, the smart moves probably just split bangles and commanders, but I've kind of just want to keep writing
47:59both entries into like chopping weeks and see if I can like double dip.
48:03That's probably not smart. Anyways. Yeah. Go commanders. Go bangles.
48:06Um, I'm curious to see the, the, my, the Patriots ownership this week against Miami.
48:10Um, I feel like didn't they already have one big chalk spot?
48:14They did, but there's still like, I think like 50, 40% owned, at least in my contest.
48:19So I'm going to be curious to see how much of those users still are willing to use them because they don't
48:26have a, you know, a big usable week until week 18.
48:29And I am certain this contest won't be alive in week 18.
48:32Yeah. Wow. They really, so green Bay Detroit. Well, at, at the chargers turns out, turns out that's going to be a pretty usable week.
48:40Yeah. Um, yeah, yeah. I, the, the real chaos obviously begins during the double pick weeks.
48:45I mean, that's when you start to have to like, things get, things get very, um, yeah.
48:50I think next week I'm going to use Niners and then either Seattle or commander or Seattle or Detroit.
48:55Um, and then just hope like one of the chalk teams loses.
48:59And then like, you know, again, there's only three other 49ers entries that aren't mine.
49:03So it's like, God, please off a bye, just, just beat the Raiders.
49:07Your 10 point favorites. Don't do anything crazy. So yeah.
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