0:00The man, the myth, the legend, Sammy Reed decided, hey man, I'm going to go touch grass.
0:05And I said, hey, the people have always wanted Adam Levitan on the show for Approve It Week.
0:10You know, they get Peter on in Week 18, but he makes a mockery of God's game, Adam.
0:16He really does. He doesn't take it seriously. He doesn't know that from Tuesday till Sunday morning, we are grinding to a
0:22nub every decimal trying to decide between Kendrick Bourne, Antonio Williams, and Roman Wilson.
0:26We're saying, is this a McBride week? Is it not a McBride week?
0:30We're reading the training camp reports. We're in the weeds, Adam.
0:33And I don't appreciate what Peter does to our beautiful game.
0:37It's insulting, but it does drum up a lot of action for Week 18, which I always appreciate.
0:42You know, in these streets these days, anybody who is willing to drum up action for cash is good in my book.
0:48That's true. That's true. It was, I mean, basically the most straightforward imaginable week in cash games.
0:53The must plays were DeAndre Swift, Jameer Gibbs, Jacoby Brissett.
0:56I thought those were the must, must plays. My want play, well, actually, my want play, Adam, was Jalen Warren.
1:02There was really no way to make it work, though.
1:05There was no way to get Jalen Warren in the Braylon Allen spot, I don't think.
1:10Did you try and look at that? Uh, yes.
1:13And I could not do it, but I actually went out of my way to play Jalen Warren on FanDuel.
1:18Um, and you know, that was not like a lot of people played Aaron Jones, um, on FanDuel.
1:24And so, yeah, that was good. You know, the Jalen Warren was just, guy is just so good in such a smash.
1:30But yes, on DraftKings, I did not see a clean way to get to Jalen Warren.
1:35I considered even going to, um, over Swift, like Jalen Warren over Swift.
1:39Like, I thought Jalen Warren was a way better play than Swift, but then you would have had to get off Jets defense.
1:46And, you know, I thought Swift was, was solid enough.
1:49So, so yeah, you know, that's the advantage of playing both sites is like, I don't beat myself up when, um, I
1:55don't have someone I really like on one site.
1:58There were, there were a couple, so there were, I'll admit, I always like that you can ask love or you can ask Wiggins about this.
2:05I always do try and get a little bit creative to try and get to some of the, the want plays before lock.
2:12So I did look at a team that was, uh, Mr.
2:15Secret Baygent at quarterback. Oh no. And then it was Warren over Allen.
2:19And then I don't remember who it got up, but it got up to someone over Kendrick Bourne and then down to
2:26the Tennessee Titans of defense, which obviously would have been, I, even with the Warren smash would have just been absolutely, uh, would have been throttled.
2:33I did. I will admit, I did think about trying to mess with a Baygent mostly because, and it's very funny to
2:40look at the results, seeing that Michael Wilson got seven and born got 12.
2:44I didn't really think that Marvin Harrison Jr. Not playing.
2:47I did not think it did absolutely anything to Kendrick Bourne at all.
2:51Wait, I see. I thought that Marvin Harrison gone was worse for Michael Wilson.
2:55Kendrick Bourne has a dick. Kendrick Bourne can earn targets.
2:58Marvin Harrison does not. I thought it was worse for Michael Wilson.
3:01I was still always playing him and I can actually consider Michael Wilson a must at 6,200 given the game environment, given
3:08his targets and given the way we had him projected.
3:11But yes, I thought it was worse for Marvin.
3:14And yeah, I just thought it meant Kendrick Bourne would be on the field more.
3:18So yeah, I thought it was definitely better for Kendrick Bourne that Marvin Harrison was gone.
3:23Okay. So Kendrick Bourne had run 187 routes on the year and Marvin Harrison Jr.
3:27was on the field for 185 of them, which you can take that one of two ways.
3:32The one way, and this is the way I took it was he's not going to run any more routes because he
3:39was already on the field with Marvin Harrison Jr.
3:41for all these routes. So it wasn't like, oh, this guy's going to go because the classic DFS cheap receiver is what
3:48we did with Trey Harris, which is the guy who has a route ceiling who now and it's funny because Trey Harris ends up getting injured.
3:55Although Trey Harris was actually going to have a great game, by the way, and I'm not even like a chart.
4:02You guys know I absolutely hate the Chargers. He was going to have a great game.
4:06He was targeted like he was either targeted or the first read on like six of their first 10 passing plays.
4:13They did like they didn't end around to him like they tried.
4:16They tried to get him the ball. It just, you know, he's a charger.
4:20So that means he got injured. Oh, and he's not that good.
4:24You know, I mean, but you know, especially if Sertan and Riley Moss were both playing, I would have been like, all
4:30right, you know, you want to do something other than Trey Harris.
4:34Maybe I can see that, but given everybody that was out and Riley Moss and Sertan out, I'm totally fine with the Trey Harris play.
4:41I think that was fine. I actually had him.
4:44Yeah, I had him as a must also. Like I had literally six musts on this.
4:49Like that might be a new record for me.
4:51I thought Gibbs, Brissett, Swift, Trey Harris, McBride, and Michael Wilson were all musts.
4:55And like anytime I think I have that many guys I think are stone cold locks, like I know I'm going to win.
5:02I don't know if I've ever lost when I've had like four or five, six musts.
5:07So there you go. Welcome to the program, Nate.
5:10There you go. Kendrick Bourne ran 32 routes. Michael Wilson ran 44.
5:13Trey McBride ran 50. So Kendrick Bourne's role did not change, which.
5:17I mean, isn't jailed like isn't jail and Brooks's targets per route run going to be better than Marvin Harrison Jr.'s?
5:23Like I'm not even I'm not even dicking around like legit jail and Brooks might.
5:27I am sure in this game he has a better targets per route run than Marvin Harrison Jr.
5:33I played I played Kendrick Bourne, obviously, but I did think it was the worst play of of the three receivers of
5:39Michael Wilson, Kendrick Bourne and Trey Harris. So one thing about like and the two V two that I looked at was
5:46Bourne and Jets the verse Roman Wilson and Wilson and tight and Titans.
5:49That was the one that I thought was somewhat close.
5:52But one thing that I think like in these spots when you play both Bourne and Wilson, like you raise your floor, right?
5:59You raise your floor. Likely one of them or both of them are going to fail in a spot like this.
6:05So I thought you did raise your floor a bit by playing both of them.
6:10And obviously, like people underrate Jets defense. I think we had a really nice projection on them.
6:15It was they were the third highest projected defense raw points of the whole slate.
6:19Yeah. And this dude David Bailey is like a huge hit for the Jets.
6:23So, you know, I thought I never I try not to let defense like really sway me too much, but I thought
6:30it was close between Bourne and Wilson. And so having the defense upgrade there, I thought made sense.
6:35I mean, Nate, I got to be honest. Kendrick Bourne does not seem like a Nate play.
6:40Like I felt like I felt like you were like begging to try and find your way to some you were going
6:47to you were going to spend like honestly, I thought you might show up with with with with not percent.
6:53I thought you might show up with Bajan or Kyler or something in order to not play Kendrick Bourne.
6:58It's so not a Nate play. I mean, I didn't want to play Kendrick Bourne, but I I don't know.
7:04I mean, I thought the build was just so obvious this week as soon as as soon as the Marvin Harrison news
7:11came out, as soon as everything fell into place, there was just no getting off.
7:15I mean, I I don't know. I saw the Roman Wilson thing.
7:18I saw the Emmanuel Wilson thing, but I I just felt so comfortable with this build.
7:23So I don't know. I was I don't like Kendrick Bourne, but the Trey Harris thing also might have been a little bit thin, too.
7:31So I don't know which one I felt worse about.
7:34Uh, I don't I don't think the I feel I feel fine about the Trey Harris play like he's I mean, look, he's attached to a shitty quarterback.
7:42So that is what it is. But. I mean, that game was it was also I mean, we have any.
7:48I just went all in on Trey Wilson. I had Trey Wilson everywhere, too.
7:52So I had him in tournaments that Michael Wilson or Trey Harris.
7:55You just you just confused both. You just confused.
7:58Oh, Trey Harris. I had. I had Trey Harris like everywhere.
8:01Yeah, so that that's the play that I feel the worst about today.
8:05But I do think this Arizona offense is so concentrated with those guys.
8:09Uh, and they have to drop back 50 times every game.
8:12They're going to like they're locked into it. That's the thing.
8:15It's it's 38 to 14 or whatever it was.
8:18And they just keep dropping him back. I mean, Joey Brissett came into this game averaging 41 dropbacks the game this season.
8:25He was at more than that last year. Like they don't care.
8:28You know, like so it's a huge, huge advantage to to have that.
8:32Obviously most most teams. This is this is true.
8:35Most teams will just give up. They will just run the ball.
8:38They will get I mean, this is this is like a huge problem with Jets players.
8:43This is a problem with Brown. This is a huge problem.
8:46Actually, if you are like a Carnell Tate guys big problem with Carnell Tate is they do not even though they're they start every game down 10 points.
8:54The Titans do not go back to immediate garbage time mode when they still try and run their offense.
9:00Like I think Jeremiah Love got 11 carries today with eight of them coming in the first half.
9:05I believe like they they don't even pretend to run a real offense.
9:09And they and they keep going. I mean McBride scored what didn't McBride scored at the two minute drill like as the
9:16like like it's an insane scam that Trey McBride has running here.
9:19Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That was one of the most ridiculous catches I've seen to just like meaningless garbage time fourth down
9:26when it was ridiculous catches I've ever seen. That was very expensive for Mr.
9:30Leone there as as the chalk kind of got there on him late.
9:34But yeah. Yeah, it was good. Yeah, that was also a grown ass man catch.
9:38I mean, don't don't don't make it seem like that was some slot.
9:42That was awesome. Everyone knows Trey McBride is really good.
9:45But I think we can all just be honest that like, you know, not everyone knows people literally for five years thought
9:51that he couldn't score touchdowns because he had Kyler Murray as his freaking quarterback.
9:55You know what? This is actually years. You know what?
9:58This is actually one of my my big, big, big pet peeves.
10:02They never let Kyler execute offense like this. They would they would get down and they would they would be still trying
10:08to run Zonovan Knight into the line. They never let they never let Kyler drop back 50 times in a game.
10:15They they they totally like Kobe Brissett is running a fucking seven step drop back offense from from from the first kick.
10:21They would never let Kyler do that. I mean, Kyler, I don't think would be that good at it.
10:27But we do need to talk about how low Trey McBride was owned in cash games.
10:31The fact that like it's 2026 week five and the easiest play of the entire slate was only 60 percent owned in cash games is just did unfathomable.
10:40Well, McBride was more McBride was more owned than Gibbs.
10:43Gibbs is to me. Wait, I thought that. I mean, obviously, I thought McBride was a stone cold lock in this slate
10:49context, but Gibbs was less owned than McBride in double ups.
10:52Yeah, this this ownership right here. So this is the big fifty dollar double up.
10:57So nine hundred and nine entries. This was the biggest GPP that was above twenty five dollars on the whole site.
11:03Nine hundred nine entrance. These are these are the people who these are the people who read Adam's cash game review article on ETR every Sunday night.
11:11These people should fucking know better. I do. You know what Levitan?
11:15That's actually a good shout. Sixty six percent Gibbs is the worst ownership in the history of the big fifty dollar double up.
11:21I've never seen people play worse than this. He was our best value by a mile.
11:26He was also minus four fifty to score anytime touchdown minus four fifty to score in the anytime touchdown market.
11:32And like, yeah, he was easy to fit. So, I mean, yeah.
11:35Who do we who do we think the culprit was?
11:38What what what optimizer? What optimizer? Who's the culprit?
11:41Amon Ra. I mean, well, I'll say the Blitz.
11:44The Blitz as well. I didn't see. I was going to say I found our.
11:48Hardy didn't play Gibbs. I found our I found our culprit.
11:51The Blitz dot com. Amon Ra St. Amon Ra St.
11:54Brown and Luther Burden over Kendrick Bourne and Jameer Gibbs.
11:57There's your there's your culprit. I think that's why.
12:00I don't I think it's a lot of people even in that fifty dollar single entry.
12:05I guarantee there's people on their phone taking a dump and putting in lineups in the fifty dollar single entry double up.
12:11You think there are phone shitter bros, dude? How do they even find that contest?
12:16No, dude, there was a there was a build that had Amon Ra and Emmanuel Wilson over.
12:21Oh, we're going to buddy. That's called this is called a dramatic reveal.
12:24I've been saving the Emmanuel Wilson discussion. Yeah. Yeah, I I think like these kind of slates are fine for for double ups.
12:31Seeing this Gibbs 66 percent makes me wish that I had played more doubles.
12:35But typically when I think it's so obvious, like I'm going to play as many heads to heads.
12:41No, this this should be the worst type of slate for double ups.
12:45Exactly. Now, I don't think I don't think ever the three of us have all played the same team.
12:50Me, Nate and Sammy all played the same team.
12:53I truly I mean, maybe it's happened once or twice.
12:56I don't I don't think so, though. And then we just straight up one V one.
13:00Do you love a tan? And boy, did we run fucking hot because Manny Wilson was set to with his usage.
13:07Absolutely smoke Braylon Allen in that game. But yeah, this does not get there because.
13:11No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is not a Braylon Allen got lucky.
13:16Braylon Allen is a legitimately better rusher. Agreed. Like that.
13:19That is true. Yeah, that's definitely Braylon Allen legit had like eight missed tackles for us or something today.
13:24He was unbelievable. Yeah. But like, yeah, he got 24.
13:27But so he's a much better rusher. I mean, this is not a.
13:31But this is not a Nate. I listen to the show like as much as I possibly can.
13:36This is this is not a talent question when we're talking about one V ones.
13:41And by the way, if you want to put my team up against your team and then hide the players, you'll see
13:47everybody can see the one V one that we had.
13:50We had the exact same team, except I played Manny Wilson.
13:54You guys played Braylon Allen. I have three reasons or maybe four that I played Braylon Allen.
13:59I'm curious your guys take on these four reasons.
14:01I played Manny Wilson over Braylon Allen. First team level four, like Seahawks are going to be good.
14:07They're going to be competent. They're going to be 32 plays last week.
14:10The Jets are not like the Jets had 32 plays last week.
14:14Second, at the time that we went to lock, I was not sure that George Helani was going to be active.
14:20Our projection had Braylon and Emmanuel Wilson dead even with Helani in.
14:24If Helani gets ruled out, we would have had Emmanuel Wilson at least a couple more points clear of Braylon Allen.
14:30Third, there was talk during the week that they wanted to use Isaiah Davis more last week.
14:35However, Isaiah, they only got 32 snaps off. Isaiah Davis didn't get to play a lot.
14:40And lastly, for the late swap, bro, Davis is like the king of over late swapping.
14:44This was the reason. You get the optionality if you play.
14:48So I still think, I still think Emmanuel Wilson was right.
14:51And if that fucking punter catches the football, you guys are sucking my cock right now.
14:56You guys aren't gloating. If the punter catches the football, Braylon finishes with 12.
15:00He got the 100-yard bonus and the touchdown because the ball went through the punter's head.
15:04I see Braylon Allen getting 24 carries. 24 carries.
15:07He still went out the bonus, Levitan. He did not get the bonus.
15:11He would not. They would have been in pass mode.
15:14No, no, no. They would have been in pass mode because they were going to punt the ball deep into the jet
15:20zone and they would have been passing. Yeah, you're right.
15:23They were down. They were down. No. Yes. This is a bad take.
15:27At the end of the day, Braylon Allen at 5,400 with 24 rushing attempts and four targets and you faded him.
15:33No, no, no. This is one of those weeks.
15:36This is a week where it's, I don't know who came up with this, but it's a prove it week in cash.
15:42This is just let your opponents make a mistake.
15:45I came up with that. How many touches did Emmanuel Wilson have, Nate?
15:49How many opportunities did Emmanuel Wilson have? It, I mean, two yards to carry.
15:53Two yards to carry, maybe. 20 carries and two catches.
15:56This was a better. How many would he have gotten if Kalani?
16:00Missed tackles, forced. We're playing cash. You're talking about missed tackles, forced in a one game sample of running back.
16:05Let's say the Jets get smoked in this game and Deshaun Watson's been playing great.
16:10Let's say the Jets get smoked in this game or let's say the punter catches it.
16:15Getting there with an 11 ball from Braylon Allen.
16:17No, you let the Jets run, or the Jets running bad last week with what?
16:2232 total plays. And, and that, that was just clearly an anomaly.
16:25The Jets aren't not going to have that. Oh, of course.
16:28Volume this week. Oh, I agree. What happens if George Kalani gets ruled out?
16:33Then, then what do you say? Kalani's ruled out.
16:35We're on the wrong side of it. I will say Wilson ran a little bit good in game because he did get
16:42benched and then Halani played worse than he did.
16:44He got benched for fumbling. I mean, frankly, like I say this a lot about a lot of players.
16:50I do think George Kalani's probably the worst running back in the NFL.
16:54Like if you, if you think about, so, so there are 96 running backs, right?
16:58Cause 32 teams each have three running backs. Halani's probably 96 of 96.
17:02It's him or Damian Pierce. It's very close. Um, between, between the two of them who, who is, uh, legitimately worse.
17:08I thought about playing Wilson, but to the late swap thing, the issue with late swap is who you don't even need
17:15it because no one played in the early game.
17:17So I was like, you're, you're, you're not actually getting any optionality because you, I guess, uh, so in our lineup, the
17:24early guys were, um, if you, if you don't include Braylon Allen, our early guys were the jets and swift and jets.
17:30And you wouldn't have gotten enough information off that.
17:33I mean, I guess if the jets got like one point, maybe you would think about doing something.
17:38I mean, there was 30% of the field that had the zero from Roman Wilson.
17:43If you played, okay, listen, dude, if you played Roman Wilson and cash, you got no mojo, dude, you got zero mojo.
17:49No, no, none, none. I can see it in tournaments, but if you played Roman Wilson and cash, knowing who Jeremy Bernard is, you got no mojo.
17:57I would have played, I would have played Jeremy.
18:00Um, I had a Roman, I think in, in cash.
18:03Yeah. I thought Roman was the best argument for Roman was not like a data driven one at all.
18:09It was that Aaron Rogers has some liking to Roman Wilson that he does not have the Jeremy Bernard.
18:14That was a really thin argument considering sample size on the Roman Wilson stuff.
18:18So yeah, I, I didn't, you know, I don't think Roman Wilson was as bad as, as you make it out to
18:25be, but yeah, I mean, I'm obviously I put the boring side.
18:28I got, I got saved. I will say I did get saved a little bit.
18:33I wanted to play Antonio Williams over Kendrick Bourne with no Stefan digs and with McLaurin on the snap count.
18:39And I, I a hundred percent would have done it without all the weather.
18:43I, I a hundred percent would have played Antonio Williams overboard.
18:46Well, not a hundred percent. I would have liked to have played Antonio Williams.
18:50And I don't even know. I mean, I can look how many routes he ran.
18:55Sorry. I just looked up the Braylon Allen routes.
18:57Braylon Allen ran 28 routes to Emmanuel Wilson's 14.
19:00Yeah. And I thought there was some variance in that, in that they had literally talked to me about getting Isaiah Davis more, more work, you know?
19:08And so I agree with you. I thought that was the most likely case that Braylon was going to be full blown
19:14workhorse, but not a hundred percent, you know? So yeah, I, you just to be serious for a minute though, do you take some of the Braylon Allen?
19:23Like we haven't seen him in a legitimate workhorse role in the NFL yet.
19:27Like his talent is still a question where we know the reason, Nate, the reason isn't good at football, right?
19:33How many, how many scoring opportunities do you think there are for Seattle in a game versus jets in a game?
19:39How many inside the 10 carries inside the five carries are there for Emmanuel Wilson typically on average versus a jets team?
19:45I mean, it showed in what happened in the game because he didn't even have a good game and he still scored
19:52because Seattle is just going to have so many more like the jets, the jets barely won this game against the awful Browns in the rain.
19:59I mean, I'm with Nate. And then I think Braylon Allen is way better than Emmanuel Wilson.
20:04Oh, so am I. The team level context, the Isaiah Davis quote was pretty interesting.
20:09Shout out to our boys at Mike nuggets. Cause they had the video of it, but it wasn't.
20:14So it wasn't them saying like, Oh, we don't want to play Braylon.
20:18But it was literally like the, I think the exact quote from who's there.
20:22I see Frank Reich. It was like, none of our drives were long enough to get Isaiah Davis in the game, which is like, Oh shit.
20:30I mean, that is, that's so dark that you can't have a drive long enough to play your second running back at all.
20:37But like, to me, you know, we, like me specifically, I become enamored with the talent for all these guys.
20:43And like, I've been waiting for a spot to jam Braylon Allen, like his literal whole career.
20:48So I was, it was pretty easy for me to get him in here.
20:52And that's totally fair. Again, I thought it was, we had the exact same projection on these guys, literally the exact same.
20:58So I, you know, obviously I thought Braylon Allen was, was a really good play also.
21:03So, I mean, yeah, like on a one week, on a one week sample, I don't worry about talent in a one season sample.
21:10I worry about talent a lot in a dynasty setting.
21:13I worry about talent massively, you know, but I'm surprised that you guys are coming at me with the talent argument.
21:19I'm not, I'm not really coming at it. I mean, we literally had, because they were the same price and they, it's
21:26because they are the same price and they projected for similar like workloads.
21:29And so I do think at this point, talent should be a needle mover.
21:34And we did have the, we did have the jets defense too.
21:37Uh, which also correlates like a little bit, like the jets defense is going to be a pretty bad play.
21:43And, and I did think, I mean, Braylon, it's funny cause he literally didn't catch a pass at all.
21:49He did run a bunch of routes, but I did think he could contribute as a pass catcher.
21:54I mean, frankly, we saw, he just ran so bad last week that it was like the only thing for him was upside.
22:01The overall team volume was so low last week.
22:03It was like, that was clearly an anomaly. There's only upside where Emmanuel Wilson is like priced for inefficient offense.
22:09And if Braylon will, if Braylon gets any efficiency, I mean, it's just, well, clearly that's why we had them with the
22:16same projection, you know, like clearly that we, you know, we were projecting 32 plays.
22:20We have also, I, it is worth noting. We have seen this exact scenario before Brees got hurt last year and Braille
22:27mound and Isaiah Davis were in a legitimate timeshare that the difference this year is that Isaiah Davis got hurt or banged
22:33up at some point in training camp. And they must have just viewed him as being like pretty significantly behind Braylon Allen
22:40in a way that they, cause remember there was, there was a spot at some point last year where Braylon Allen got
22:46played in cash and was in like legitimately like a straight up timeshare.
22:50I don't remember what week probably was the first week after Brees got out, but like, it's, it's not like it's, it's a never before seen spot here.
22:58So the good news is all four of us won.
23:01So, you know, it's a happy day. Yeah. People, you know, that's not, no one, no one wanted this.
23:07This is, this is for sure. The worst outcome for this show was that we all just like easily won, like with
23:13no sweat in any way, shape or form. Like as soon as the jets like cracked like 12 points, it was like, Oh, okay.
23:20Well this slate's over. Cause Roman Wilson had zero Antonio Williams sucked.
23:24And the jets defense was like, you had to have it.
23:27And so it was, I mean, look at, look at the.
23:30Ownerships for set, 83% swift, 83% Braylon 31, Michael Wilson, 84 born 40% tray or six like, like straight up, like no sweat.
23:37So, uh, apologize to the people I, the people love the, the shows that people love the most on, on this is
23:44when I lose and Nate and Sammy win. Um, and replacing that with me losing and Levitan and Nate winning would have
23:50been an all timer for the people. So I'm, I'm apologetic that we were not able to get there.
23:56Yeah. It's, it's a bummer, but I will say the good news is half games are not dead and we still have
24:02many weeks of profitability in front of us and people are going to play this bad.
24:07So I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what, I mean, these lineups are Gibbs should have been 90%.
24:13I don't know. I don't know. I think McBride ownership is almost worse because tight end was such a very clear, like
24:20these ownerships are like, it feels like still 2022.
24:22Like this is crazy. Yeah. I mean, we had McBride like in value, like three clear of any other tight end.
24:29You really, rarely, rarely, rarely ever see that at tight end.
24:32Yeah. Um, all right. So we can go to our GPP stuff now.
24:36And I actually was maybe in a semi interesting spot.
24:39So I'm curious your guys thought on this. So I was dead to win after the 1 PM games.
24:44Cause I played a Bayesian team. So I had Bayesian Jalen Warren, Deandre Swift, Matthew golden, Luther burden, and the Titans defense at lock.
24:51Lock. What was left in my lineup must've been, it would have, so it would have been Michael Wilson, uh, a Rondé Gadsden and Jameer Gibbs.
24:59So I swapped from Michael Wilson to waddle. I swapped from Gadsden to Kittle and I swapped from Gibbs to St.
25:05Brown. I think I, I think that, and it was, this was like a 14, 15% semi R.O.Y.
25:10team before lock. Like it was, it was like fine, but not, I just wanted to play it.
25:16Frankly, I just really wanted to do a Bayesian burden with the golden bring back.
25:20Those were, those were all my want plays there.
25:23Would, would you guys have swapped that? Or would you have just kept Gibbs for the men cash?
25:28You're asking, you're asking the, you're asking the wrong guy, but I don't think you were really drawing live to win after your start anyway.
25:36For sure. I for sure was not drawing live.
25:38So, so shouldn't you be going for the main cash no matter what then?
25:42That's what, so like, um, nerdy tenor has done a bunch of like work on this of like, Oh, what should I do in these late swaps?
25:50And he found, he told me that one of the most surprising things he found was in this spot where basically they
25:57were like, where like 2018 DFS would have been, Oh dude, you got a swap or whatever.
26:02But the sim is actually saying all your equity is in men caching.
26:06So you should probably stay. I, the issue that I thought was, I thought Kittle could have been a massive differential.
26:12Like I thought Kittle could have gotten like 30 in this spot and you normally are not able to swap to a Titan that can get that many.
26:20But the, the swap, uh, was obviously bad because my field aware ROI here was negative 10% after the swap, which is,
26:27so I gave up what from 14% to 10%.
26:29So I gave up a good, uh, I guess if you do that math of a hundred bucks, I gave, I, what
26:36I gave up like 47 bucks of equity or something there.
26:39It's, it's so crazy to me. Like I, you know, when I listened to your guys show, like I would, people ask me for advice all the time.
26:47I, I, a lot of people I tell you guys, I say, you guys are under swapping.
26:52You're not swapping enough. I want to scream to Davis.
26:55You are swapping way too much in everything. Cash tournaments, everything like, well, there's already been one week this year.
27:01I cost myself a win, but I should have just stay.
27:04If I just stayed, I just easily cash everything.
27:07And I cost the Kyler versus Shuck swap, but you might be the only DFS player on earth that over swaps everybody else under swaps.
27:14You might be the only one that actually over swaps on earth.
27:18Nate, would, would, is that, was that a stay put for you?
27:21I would have stayed put. I mean, yeah, I think you do over swap and I think the field, I don't know.
27:28I, at that point I would just try to get men.
27:31Did either of you guys do Bajan stuff at all?
27:34No, I only played three teams and they were all Brissette.
27:37I mean, I can talk about why, but I, I actually only played three tournaments in there and they were all a percent.
27:44And the other thing about this is like, I actually went for a full fade in tournaments on swift, like this 50%
27:51on swift, given he was on the injury report this week, there were some comments about Roshan Johnson too.
27:56Like, and I thought swift was an awesome play obviously, but 53% when you have Jalen Warren, Gibbs, Braylon, Emmanuel Wilson, Aaron Jones, Chase Brown, JT, CMC.
28:04I didn't really want to play 50% DeAndre Swift, I guess, you know, would be my biggest problem with this lineup.
28:10My, the, the bet, my favorite play of the day was Warren, but it, I did not get saved enough because I cannot stop with Luther burden.
28:18I can't get, and you know what? It's going to happen again next week.
28:23Cause I'm going to say, dude, he got, you got 13 targets, like the volumes, like it's going to, I'm going to,
28:29I already know I can, you could fast forward to next week.
28:33Luther burden is going to have 12 points and I'm going to be like, no, dude, you guys don't understand the volume.
28:39He's so good. The volume is so good. A dude's a so bad.
28:43Caleb's going to be back next week too. In like some ways.
28:46I mean, obviously after watching Baygent today, like please never, ever let me see Tyson Baygent play football again.
28:52Like that's it, dude. It's definitely an upgrade over Baygent.
28:55I would say for burden, it might not. I don't know.
28:58We haven't seen the Caleb burden connection workout, but case Keenum burden, definitely have a connection.
29:03Even, even today. I don't think burden had any of his work.
29:07He had, he had, he got, he got 33, he got 33 yards and six targets in the last quarter and a
29:13half that, um, that Keenum played, but yeah, uh, whatever smoke.
29:16And also, I'm also curious, your thoughts on this too, Adam, the Titans defense at 12% because they were the last defense you could like squint.
29:24That's so bad. That's also terrible of me. Like just play the jets, dude.
29:28Just find it. Get the 600 bucks to play the jets.
29:31I know. I think I did that too on, on Titans on one of my teams.
29:36Um, yeah, it's not great. I will say Titans on Fandle because commanders were 3,300 and Titans were 31.
29:42Titans were not as owned on Fandle. Obviously commanders smash them, but, uh, or beat them.
29:46But yeah, I mean, obviously playing the like desperation defense in tournaments is something I try not to do, but I think I did it this week too.
29:55If I look at my team. It's so, it's so hard not to do it because like we were just so used
30:01to being like, yeah, well defense dude, you know, it doesn't, it doesn't matter.
30:05It's like, you know, it's unpredictable. You could, there was, you know, uh, at Stroud is good for a meatball sub here and there, you know?
30:13So it is what it is. All right. Levitan.
30:16This is your team. That was pretty good in the power sweep.
30:19Got up to 29th. Jacoby percent, 30%. Manny Wilson, 27%.
30:22Jalen Warren, 21. Justin Jefferson fucking love it. I, that was my, my other team I played was a Kyler Jefferson and I should have just played percent.
30:30Uh, Christian Watson also golf clap there and fucking neighbors.
30:33So you talk to me about the neighbors play.
30:36Cause I, I, I couldn't get there and I really wanted to.
30:39It's just rain fud. Everybody. Oh, Adam, it's raining.
30:42There's no way they can score any points in the game.
30:45There's some drizzling going on. I mean, 6,300 for Malik neighbors.
30:49I am concerned about Malik neighbors long-term. Like still, he legit seems banged up.
30:53If they lose, they're going to go to JJ McCarthy.
30:56But my gosh, while he's healthy now at 6,300, that's crazy.
30:59But the thing I want to talk about with this team was one of like the things that Leoni talked about this
31:05week on established million and dink was like, how can you play Cardinals Detroit in a smart way?
31:11One way was not doing the Brissette double. So I played my worst team was a Brissette Wilson skinny.
31:16My best team was a Brissette McBride skinny, and then not doing a bring back.
31:21Now, you know, maybe I should have, but if you play Arizona Brissette without Gibbs, you're immediately getting unique.
31:26And then my other goal was to find upside that can hopefully beat Gibbs with the wide receiver position.
31:32So Jefferson Watson neighbors. I was like, man, just let these guys beat Jameer Gibbs and I'll be cooking.
31:38Jameer Gibbs obviously shoved a 40 ball down my gullet.
31:41But like if Jameer Gibbs has 20 here, you know, that's a whole different story.
31:45Obviously, I wish I could have the Roman Wilson thing back there in the flex.
31:49But what did you guys have him for projected ownership?
31:52Which one? Roman Wilson. Let me check. Because our stuff, our stuff kind of liked him too.
31:57Our stuff that I don't, I don't fully X out plays all that often.
32:02The cheap wide receiver that our stuff liked was Malik Washington.
32:05And I was just like, fuck, no, no chance, dude.
32:08I'm so out on that. We had 14.8% Roman Wilson in small field on DK and Malik Washington 13.9%.
32:13But yeah, you know, Roman Wilson, we only had for 9.5 points.
32:17And 19.4 ceiling. We had, we actually had Malik Washington for better.
32:2012.5 base, 23.1 ceiling. I just, I, I, I, I'm good.
32:24I think I'm just not playing any Dolphins this year.
32:27I think I'm straight. I'm not going to play Caleb Douglas.
32:30I'm not going to play Chris Bell. I'm dropping, like I drafted a bunch of Malik Willis and like these FFPC main events and stuff.
32:37And I, you know, Mahomes is on by, so I was scrambling for quarterback.
32:41And I, I, I think I ended up playing Malik Wilson one.
32:45I think I started Beijing over him and another, but like, I just, I'm not doing it.
32:50I'm out on the Dolphins experience. They're not playing competitive football.
32:53I'm out. I'm not doing it. They're the least talented team in the, in the, maybe in the history of football.
32:59I mean, they're just so bad. And people are, people are still trying to defend A-Chan as a second round pick.
33:06I don't want to go off on a tangent here, but gosh, I mean.
33:10Oh no, come on, please give it, give it to Chess Liam.
33:13Tell him fucking A-Chan was terrible. I mean, we said this before the season that Devon A-Chan was the worst second round
33:20pick I could ever remember in the history of fantasy football.
33:23Like by far. I generally speaking, I I'll tell you one that was close that I was on.
33:28And I think I learned my lesson. Do you remember the year that, that David Wilson was coming off an insane year?
33:35Giants David Wilson. No, sorry. Not David Wilson. David Johnson.
33:38Oh, Cardinals David Johnson. Yeah. Cardinals David Johnson. And he ends up finishing the season running back nine, but it was like
33:44the worst, most unusable, miserable slog to the finish line.
33:47And I think I learned my lesson there, which is like, it doesn't matter how good the running back is.
33:53Cause David Johnson, kids are too young to remember, but like he was the, the absolute goat of goats at the time.
34:00But like the team was so bad that there was just nothing that could be done about it.
34:05Yeah. So I'm, I, I, I was lighter on, on A-Chan as well.
34:09And then fucking Christian Watson, dude. I mean, again, I just like with the burden thing, I cannot stop with Matthew Golden.
34:15I can't. I mean, I think Matthew Golden is really good.
34:18Christian Watson is like a crazy difference maker. So yeah.
34:21I mean, I thought all three of those wide receivers had a chance to be Gibbs and that was like the whole
34:28idea of, of the, of the lineup. Obviously I think I should have probably had Brissette double McBride and, and born, but
34:34I was so adamant on playing the skinny to try to be unique.
34:38Maybe that was bad. Yeah. Well, they're, they're the people are, people are asking in the chat.
34:43They're saying how much money. I wouldn't have won.
34:46It doesn't matter. I wouldn't have won. Okay. The, the interesting thing to me is the, the neighbors play.
34:51Like I almost would have like, if I'm betting on neighbors, like Winston, Winston would be the play over Brissette.
34:57You get all the ownership fade and you get like, I mean, neighbors can't get there without, without Winston doing it.
35:04And so, yeah, I don't know. I, I probably, that'd be the one thing I would have done in this lineup is
35:10if you're making the neighbors play, go to Winston.
35:13I think that's fair. And also for us, like likely was simming off the charts.
35:17Like one of the best simming plays that we had was Isaiah likely.
35:21So yeah, that would have been a good team.
35:24Yeah. Well, hand, hand up to me, man. I w I was scared of the rain.
35:28I was scared of the rain, Adam. I said, Oh no.
35:32Oh no. This wasn't even the worst rain. I mean, the jets Cleveland was, was the worst rain.
35:37This was like light rain off and on. Like, yeah.
35:40That's why, that's why Adam decided not to play Brillen Allen.
35:43And Hey, it was sun sun was shining. Oh no, dude.
35:46The ETR fan voice found me. They found me.
35:49I hate it. They hate it. Uh, okay. Nate sent me a lineup that, uh, he ran bad at the end here.
35:55Where is it? I just had it. Oh, here you said, I just put it in the chat.
36:01I just had it. I just had it pulled up.
36:04Um, I gotta say, I give this lineup. I give this lineup a hundred out of 10 for originality brother.
36:10Drake may 6% jail and Warren 22 braille now in 24% JSN 13%.
36:13Demario Douglas 1.8 F didn't fucking chism. The third 1.4% Hunter Henry 7.7.
36:17Jameer Gibbs in the saints defense. They'll never respect my goat enough, man.
36:21They'll never ever dude. I don't care that F didn't chism only got 10.
36:25F didn't chism, uh, a true none. No, a hundred out of 10, Nate, a hundred out of 10 for F didn't chism.
36:32And the, the crazy thing about this lineup, Nate is if anyone else did Demario Douglas or F didn't chism, I bet
36:39my last dollar, my very last dollar, they did it to get Amon Ross, St.
36:43Brown, Trey McBride and Gibbs in together in a team.
36:46They're like, I got to save some money. I got to do whatever I can to get all these Detroit, Arizona pieces.
36:52And, um, only Gibbs from that game in here.
36:55I mean, just, you gotta, you gotta hand it to him and you get what you got cocked at the end, uh, in first place here by what?
37:03Uh, I'm literally watching this and I'm like, I need 0.08 points.
37:07And this is the last drive with Seattle. And I'm like, okay, just get me a, get me, get me a JSN target.
37:14Get me a JSN target. He breaks, he breaks containment.
37:17He gets it. He jumps. And I'm like, this is easy money.
37:20And he drops it. I've never seen a more frustrating JSN drop in my entire life.
37:25And I was like, he was clearly concussed, Nate.
37:28That's the thing is he, he was clearly concussed and should have been pulled from the game.
37:33But, uh, yeah, it wasn't a concussion. Wasn't it his ankle?
37:36Yeah. His ankle was banged up before, but he got smoked right, right in his shoulder pad on his last catch of the game.
37:43Uh, what I thought this was, what tournament was like, it was a 20 max.
37:47Like, uh, what was it? Uh, the NFL 40 K front door 20 entry max.
37:52Oh wow. 11,000 people. Jesus, man. My God. Second place by 08.
37:55I was literally like, I thought I had that one in the bank, but it's second.
38:00Anyway, that 11 K is incredible. That was more of just a fun lineup that almost finished well, but I would rather break down my Davis.
38:08Let's send you the, uh, actual one that we should.
38:11Well, here I have the, I have the contest Sims pulled up for I've got, I can check the two, the 200 K red zone.
38:18I can check the 400 K spy, the 75 K red zone and the 50 K red zone.
38:23If any of your teams in that are interesting, you do that.
38:27These are the only contests that I have up with that are cashed.
38:31Oh, well pull the, um, the one I just sent in the private chat, the touchdown team, the 20 K Kyler Murray, Aaron Jones.
38:38This is the fucking team level onslaughts, Nate. I mean, it's so good.
38:42Deandre Swift, Trey Harris, Justin Jefferson, Malik Washington, Trey McBride and Jalen Warren.
38:45So, okay. I I'm curious, Nate, was this like conscious plan of you going into the week?
38:50Like, all right, I'm going to be lighter on Detroit, Arizona than the field.
38:55Or these are just some of the lineups that were interesting to look at now.
38:59No, I had to do some intentional things because I like the typical lineups that I built were way, we're just going to be way too chalky.
39:07Cause all I do is onslaughts and it's like, everybody was doing the onslaughts of that game.
39:12And so it was like, so I had to change some things this week and, and try to get different.
39:18And so what I was trying to do was essentially just refuse Detroit, Arizona onslaughts.
39:22And I was only going to play anybody from that game, not in an, in an onslaught.
39:27And so I was trying to find another game that would just go off anything.
39:32So whether it be Drake may, whether it be Kyler Murray, um, I tried to get different in a lot of different
39:38ways, but obviously still having like McBride and Gibbs, I wasn't going to go with a bunch of like the secondary chalk
39:45pieces, like the Jameson Williams and Laporta stuff. But even though that turned out okay, but yeah, so this was an intentional lineup.
39:52I, I mean, obviously with Trey Harris and some other things didn't go my way, but I thought the Warren ownership was like.
39:58Warren ownership was crazy low compared to Swift, Adam.
40:01That, that, that seems like just cause was it cause Warren wasn't mentioned in content all week?
40:06Cause we thought Rico was playing. That's exactly it.
40:09I was going to talk about this on the, on the solo pod.
40:13We see this every single time there's late news and there was so much injury news.
40:17People were like overwhelmed by it. Rico gets ruled out and it doesn't register with people how good a play Jalen Warren is.
40:24And, and really interesting that we haven't even talked about this yet.
40:28Um, we all thought until 10 30 this morning, we were going to be able to play Mike Washington jr.
40:33Uh, and, and then turns out that you were not able to, although this is very, this was very bizarre.
40:39Gente clearly is injured in this game and is like limping around and they gave a bunch of touches to Dylan Lowby,
40:46including his first NFL touchdown be cut. And this is so funny because like, he's from there.
40:51Cause like he's, he, he went to, he went to the university of New Hampshire.
40:55That can't be. They were like, what other reason would there be?
40:59I don't know. But I was, I had a note to myself to look into that because it makes zero sense whatsoever.
41:05I bet, I bet you look into it. I bet you'll find an article on mass live.
41:10That's like, Oh yeah. Dylan Lowby's whole high school was there.
41:14His grandma was there. He, he got, uh, he gave, he gave his touchdown.
41:18I, you know, it had to be something where they thought it led to like a better pass.
41:23I'll text him and ask him. I'll say, was that the game plan?
41:27Or it was like Mike Washington banged up. I'll, I'll literally ask him.
41:31Yes, please. Okay. But the other thing I liked about this lineup was I thought Justin Jefferson in this spot was going to come like super under owned.
41:39And I thought like if he beats Amon Ra and like, yeah, I just felt really good about the Jefferson thing.
41:45So all right. Jefferson Tyler, I thought was, was let's see if my, do we think my Jefferson Kyler lineup simmed?
41:51Well, this will be, this will, this is a good sweat for me to figure out if I actually, um, played good.
41:58What was it in? It was in one of the red zones.
42:01I'm going to try and find it right now.
42:04I don't remember which one it was in. Uh, not in that one I played, I played, uh, I'd have to go well in the contest just locked.
42:12So, or the, they just switched over to completed.
42:15Uh, there you go. Nope. Negative 12% sim ROI.
42:18Uh, Kyler Murray, Deandre Swift, Braylon Allen, Justin Jefferson.
42:20See, this is, this is how you can tell I'm bad, dude.
42:24Cause I played Michael Wilson on this team. Totally.
42:26When you go Kyler, you gotta go. You gotta go with the full Aaron.
42:31Uh, Antonio Williams, Gadsden, Jameer Gibbs, and the fucking chargers defense.
42:34I do put me in jail for playing the chargers defense.
42:37This team, this team sucks. This seems really bad.
42:40Antonio Williams was not a good play. Okay. Gadsden.
42:42I did not catch this until the game literally started, but Kalar is back.
42:47I heard no reporting on this. The, the main chargers beat writer just quit his job to go be a beat writer for, uh, Adam Levitan's Philadelphia 76ers.
42:55So I missed this entirely. I would have had zero Gadsden in any format.
42:59I, I, I had no idea that Charlie Kalar was back from literally breaking his arm three weeks ago.
43:05Yeah. They listed him questionable. And like when there's a week with this many injuries, it just, people just don't talk about it.
43:11But yeah, I knew he was questionable. I knew it was a game time decision.
43:16Yeah. Hey, negative, negative 12% field aware ROI is not that bad.
43:19Negative 36% SIM ROI is pretty bad though. Dude, not, not ideal.
43:23You can't be playing that. I mean, Gadsden, Gadsden with all the receiver injuries, no Kalar.
43:28I'd probably do it again. I think, but, but once, once Kalar was in, he becomes, he becomes immediately unplayable.
43:33Like he's a, he's an absolute stone cold, uh, zero.
43:36Yeah. Uh, all right guys, there we go. We did it.
43:40We solved it. Levitan. Thank you for joining us.
43:42Uh, thank you for having me guys. I love the show.
43:46Keep it up. Keep the cash game alive. And, uh, yeah, I'm happy to fill in, uh, anytime I can, if you
43:52guys want me, as long as we keep the, uh, cash game torch going for people who like to play the best plays.
43:59Yeah. Play, play the best plays. Uh, all right guys, we will be back.
44:03Uh, well, I'll be back with all you guys tomorrow and then we'll be back next week.
44:08Uh, shout out, shout out to Sammy for touching grass.
44:11What a fucking loser. Can you imagine touching grass?
44:14Can you imagine touching grass on Sunday? I think he, I think he said he's at a concert.
44:19On a, on a Sunday, dude, what are you?
44:22I can't, I can't, I literally can't fathom. I cannot even imagine what that would be like, brother.
44:27No, no shot. No shot for me, man. Uh, all right, let's get this Matt Hibner first touchdown.
44:32Make me a cool grand and I will see you guys back tomorrow.