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First Class Fantasy - 2026 Fantasy Football Draft LIVE - NFFC High-Stakes Draft Strategy

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2 hr 2 min
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Aug 15, 2026
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Sat, August 15, 2026
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Dalton KincaidFernando MendozaJayden DanielsMalik NabersMalik WashingtonTravis KelceBrenton StrangeCaleb DouglasChris GodwinD.J. MooreDarren WallerDenzel BostonDontayvion WicksEmeka Egbuka
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Brenton Strange

NegativeProjection51:41

Jeremiah Ratzlaff ranks Mark Andrews at TE13 and Brenton Strange at TE14, indicating a very close valuation between the two.

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Caleb Douglas

PositiveSleeper69:21

Jeremiah Ratzlaff is high on Caleb Douglas, citing his third-round draft capital and explosive playmaking ability reminiscent of Randy Moss in open space. While Ratzlaff notes Douglas struggles in the red zone with ball security and size, he remains a strong target in the Dolphins' offense where positional separation is uncertain.

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Chris Godwin

PositiveUsage5:13

Chris Godwin is a strong value target who is expected to thrive in the slot, where he garners a 33% target rate compared to 21% when lined up wide.

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D.J. Moore

NegativeUsage24:57

DJ Moore is expected to play a flanker/Z-receiver role, which should keep his target share relatively safe despite the presence of Keon Coleman, who is viewed as the primary X-receiver.

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Dalton Kincaid

PositiveUsage23:52

Dalton Kincaid is a potential late-round target who could emerge as a primary pass-catcher in the Buffalo offense, potentially impacting the target share of other receivers.

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PositiveUsage45:54

Dalton Kincaid ranks number one in production premium, quarterback rating per target (149.2), fantasy points per route run (0.67), and yards per route run (3.02). The primary question remains whether he can sustain this efficiency with long-term volume.

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PositiveUsage75:57

Dalton Kincaid is highly efficient, ranking number one in fantasy points per route run (0.67) and yards per route run (3.02); the main question remains whether he can sustain long-term volume.

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Darren Waller

NegativeDepth Chart59:31

Following the news of Darren Waller signing a one-year deal with the Carolina Panthers, Ratzlaff suggests this move negatively impacts the outlook for rookie tight end Ja'Tavion Sanders.

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Denzel Boston

PositiveBreakout48:22

Denzel Boston is generating significant hype in Browns practice, with some comparing his potential impact to Drake London's rookie season. Jeremiah Ratzlaff notes the drumbeats for Boston have grown louder during the preseason.

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Dontayvion Wicks

NegativeRole65:59

Dontayvion Wicks is viewed as a good football player but unlikely to be a high-volume target earner, with Jeremiah Ratzlaff expecting Lemon to serve as the primary WR2 when healthy.

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Emeka Egbuka

NegativeInjury1:48

Emeka Egbuka left practice with a lower-body injury, initially feared to be a high ankle sprain, but it appears to be a toe injury. While turf toe can be a nagging issue, it is preferable to a high ankle sprain, and he is expected to be ready for Week 1.

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Fernando Mendoza

NegativeSleeper15:44

Fernando Mendoza is a contrarian, low-rostered late-round target. He may start mid-season, and a potential Week 17 stack with Carson Beck offers unique tournament upside.

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PositiveValue61:11

Jeremiah Ratzlaff targets Fernando Mendoza as a third quarterback to facilitate cheap stacks with Raiders wide receivers like Jalen Nailer and Trey Tucker.

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George Kittle

NegativeValue64:51

Jeremiah Ratzlaff prefers keeping George Kittle over Tony Pollard in a keeper league, citing the positional advantage of an elite tight end and the ability to avoid drafting the position early.

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Gunnar Helm

PositiveSleeper60:14

Gunner Helm is highlighted as a potential tight end target with a similar archetype to other Texas tight ends, potentially worth monitoring if he connects with a quarterback like Cam Ward.

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Isaiah Likely

NegativeSleeper55:14

Isaiah Likely is a target for Jeremiah Ratzlaff based on current ADP trends, moving from a fade to a target as the offseason progressed.

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Ja'Tavion Sanders

NegativeDepth Chart59:45

Ja'Tavion Sanders is struggling to gain traction, currently appearing stuck behind Tommy Tremble and failing to capitalize on opportunities due to injuries and the arrival of Darren Waller.

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Jalen Coker

NegativeValue49:12

Jeremiah Ratzlaff notes that he personally preferred Jalen Coker's tape over Denzel Boston's, though Boston is currently being drafted ahead of Coker.

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Jalen Nailor

PositiveUsage67:10

Jalen Nailer is a preferred late-round wide receiver target for Ratzlaff, specifically for his stacking potential with his quarterback.

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James Cook

PositiveUsage8:31

James Cook is a high-priority target due to reports of the Bills incorporating him more into the passing game. While his value is tied to efficiency and touchdown metrics, increased reception volume would significantly raise his floor and ceiling.

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Jameson Williams

PositiveBreakout33:19

Jameson Williams is a breakout candidate who could reach the 90-100 target level previously occupied by George Pickens. He is currently priced as a value, but his cost will likely rise significantly next year.

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Jayden Daniels

NegativeProjection26:51

Jayden Daniels is in a pivotal year three. While his dual-threat upside is elite, there are significant concerns regarding his frame and durability, as he has struggled to stay healthy and needs to improve his physical conditioning.

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PositiveProjection52:29

Jayden Daniels is ranked as the QB3 by Jeremiah Ratzlaff, who notes that even when drafted unstacked, his upside makes him a valuable selection at his current draft position.

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Jonathan Taylor

NegativeValue11:55

Jonathan Taylor is ranked neck-and-neck with James Cook (Taylor at 8, Cook at 9). While Taylor has established reception tools, the analysts have been drafting Cook more frequently.

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Jonathon Brooks

PositiveUsage55:21

Jonathan Brooks is sharing work with Chuba Hubbard in camp, which is a positive sign for his outlook; Jeremiah Ratzlaff is comfortable taking him at his current ADP despite the high price.

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Josh Allen

PositiveProjection19:57

Josh Allen is considered an elite quarterback necessary for winning large-field tournaments. His surrounding offensive pieces are cheap, making him a viable high-round selection.

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Juwan Johnson

NegativeValue55:24

Jeremiah Ratzlaff ranks Juwan Johnson higher than Dalton Kincaid, despite drafting Kincaid rounds earlier for stacking purposes.

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Keaton Mitchell

NegativeBust79:09

Jeremiah Ratzlaff is skeptical of the hype surrounding Keaton Mitchell, noting he has never been a pass catcher and lacks the volume or longevity to justify a round 10 ADP. Ratzlaff argues that Mitchell is being over-projected and would not be a bell-cow back even if the starter were injured, preferring Kamani Vidal instead.

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Keenan Allen

NegativeValue86:08

Jeremiah Ratzlaff is drafting Keenan Allen late, betting on the fact that he will sign with a team soon. While acknowledging he may not be the player he once was, Ratzlaff believes Allen will find a landing spot where he can provide value, potentially as a championship-chasing veteran.

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Kimani Vidal

PositiveValue79:09

Jeremiah Ratzlaff prefers Kamani Vidal over Keaton Mitchell, ranking Vidal at 183 compared to Mitchell at 192. Ratzlaff highlights Vidal's ability to catch passes and his potential to handle a significant workload if the starter goes down, making him a more reliable backup option.

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Kyle Monangai

NegativeBust47:13

Jeremiah Ratzlaff expresses regret over drafting Kyle Monongai, noting that while he could potentially benefit from a DeAndre Swift injury or goal-line opportunities, he lacks a high ceiling and is not a 'sexy' pick.

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Malik Nabers

PositiveProjection7:09

Malik Nabers is expected to join team drills as early as next week. Despite potential for a slow start due to health, he is viewed as a round-one talent and a high-upside pick for the second half of the season.

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PositiveProjection70:35

Malik Nabers is preferred over Carnell Tate due to his higher ceiling and established target pace; he is projected for a potential top-five finish among receivers.

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Malik Washington

PositiveBreakout67:38

Malik Washington is a riser for Ratzlaff, who ranks him inside his top 140 overall and ahead of Khalil Shakir and Rashid Shaheed due to a lack of target competition.

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PositiveBreakout68:38

Jeremiah Ratzlaff ranks Malik Washington inside his top 140 overall and WR58, ahead of Khalil Shakir and Rasheed Shaheed. Despite a slow start, the case for Washington is high volume and opportunity following the departure of Jaylen Waddle and Tyreek Hill's presence. Ratzlaff views him as a gadgety, home-run-hitting upside player in the Dolphins' offense.

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Pat Bryant

PositiveBreakout75:59

Jeremiah Ratzlaff is bullish on Pat Bryant, viewing him as a 'mini Courtland Sutton' who excels in the red zone and on third downs. Bryant has been a standout in camp, and Ratzlaff believes he has a strong future in Denver, potentially replacing Sutton as the team looks to save money on aging veterans.

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Rhamondre Stevenson

NegativeUsage47:37

Rhamondre Stevenson is viewed as a strong player who dominated touches in a previous game against Denver, creating a hurdle for Trevion Henderson's immediate workload, though the best ball format mitigates the need for weekly start/sit decisions.

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Terry McLaurin

NegativeValue35:03

Terry McLaurin is a reliable target ranked at 20, selected over Jameson Williams due to his higher floor and consistent ranking in the draft strategy.

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Tony Pollard

NegativeValue64:51

Jeremiah Ratzlaff views Tony Pollard as a less valuable keeper than George Kittle, noting that Pollard does not provide the same strategic flexibility or positional scarcity advantage.

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Travis Hunter

PositiveValue71:30

Jeremiah Ratzlaff identifies Travis Hunter as a great best-ball pick around pick 190-200, though he advises against drafting him in managed redraft leagues. Hunter is viewed as a high-variance asset who will provide spike weeks, particularly if injuries occur to players ahead of him on the depth chart.

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Travis Kelce

PositiveValue45:47

Jeremiah Ratzlaff describes Kelce as a 'dead cat bounce' candidate who is being left for dead in drafts despite having the potential to finish as the TE1.

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PositiveProjection75:26

Travis Kelce is considered a 'dead cat bounce' candidate who could return to TE1 status if his touchdown total increases from five to ten in the Eric Bieniemy offense.

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Tre Harris

PositiveSleeper52:18

Trey Harris is identified as a preferred late-round target in drafts, with Ratzlaff noting that he would have been double-tapped by other managers if not taken when he was.

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TreVeyon Henderson

PositiveValue47:24

Trevion Henderson is a phenomenal value falling to pick 70 (ADP 50); despite concerns about pass protection and Rhamondre Stevenson's role, his ceiling is comparable to Jahmyr Gibbs or Bijan Robinson, making him a high-upside best ball target.

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Tucker Kraft

PositiveValue70:35

Tucker Kraft is preferred over Carnell Tate in comparisons because he is more likely to eat into Brock Bowers' target share, providing better value relative to his cost.

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Episode Transcript

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0:21it is Nelson Sousa here with Jeremiah Ratzlaff here at PlayerProfiler.
0:25Today we are going to do another High Stakes NFFC Live Fantasy Football Draft so stay here, stick around, see you on
0:32the other side Alright Jeremiah, we are live and you know what is the craziest thing?
0:37I thought this was a draft at 8 o'clock.
0:40This draft starts at 8.20 Okay, I thought you were going to drop 9 on me and I just keel over and
0:47just be a boomer We are going to need to kill 20 minutes worth of time right now Yeah we can absolutely
0:54do that You think we can do that? Absolutely, absolutely Well let's talk Pete, before we get into tonight's draft, let's talk
1:01about last week where at the wraparound we had Team 11 On the wraparound second round pick early at the 2-2 I
1:08go Emeka Abuka Pete, today we get that news that Emeka Abuka Was it a toe injury that finally came out?
1:15There was concern about a high ankle sprain What's your level of concern?
1:19Me personally, I'm not so worried but I'd like to hear your thoughts because I want to poke through my biases I
1:27got a lot of love for Emeka Abuka And just to sort out any level of worry for you Yeah, and before
1:34we do that I just want to say hit that thumbs up, hit the like button and subscribe if you're not already
1:41We see seven people here on YouTube, we see some guys here on Twitter, we got King, we got Justin in the
1:48house as well Ask any questions that you have, you guys got us for 20 minutes before the draft starts And then
1:55once the draft starts, we'll continue to answer questions But we'll also kind of do our normal thing given the analysis and
2:02so on and so forth So we'll get into that, keep loading up the questions, I see Kyle, I see Justin Keep
2:09asking those questions, we'll get back, get to those in one second To answer Jeremiah's question about Emeka Abuka So yeah, Abuka
2:16or Emeka Abuka Left practice today with a lower body injury He was kind of rolled up on it, sounds like on
2:23some sort of maybe jet sweep Or some end around And it sounds like it was a toe injury At first it
2:30was nerve wracking because people thought maybe high ankle sprain And if you're talking high ankle sprain, we're talking four to six
2:38weeks And then we're bleeding into like the first two, three weeks of the season Thankfully not that But a little bit
2:45of concern that it could be like a turf toe If it is a turf toe, that's one of those nagging injuries,
2:52Jeremiah That like typically just doesn't get better unless you just rest it Not as bad as a high ankle sprain I
2:59would expect him even if he has turf toe to come back And be ready for week one But he could miss
3:06some time here in camp But I'd much rather it be that than the high ankle sprain In the meantime, you're going
3:13to get some hype for people like Ted Hurst Jaylen McMillan, Chris Godwin I was talking about him last night on another
3:20show He's ready to crush Pete right out of the slot He garners something like a 33% target rate out of the
3:27slot Versus 21% when he's out wide So another player that you may want to click on tonight would be Chris Godwin
3:34He's presented a lot of value Now Pete, for the draft tonight What's the slot?
3:39In the last two drafts that we've had We've been able to go at the 111 Is there something different?
3:46Something changed? I know we have derby style And we have the third round reversal to account for So where did we end up?
3:53Yeah, so we got the 10 spot Which is pretty much the same I mean, not much of a difference I do
4:01prefer to be in the I do prefer to be like If I'm going to be in the back I'd rather be
4:08really in the back So I get closer to the turn at that point But it's nice with the third round reversal
4:15Let's grab some of these questions here really quick And then we can talk a little bit more news And then continue
4:22to send in your questions Before we kick off this draft Justin said What are we thinking about Malik Neighbors, guys?
4:29Yeah, I'll take this one first here Malik Neighbors You know, the reports with him Is that, you know, he's likely to
4:36join team drills soon Coach Harbaugh said on Wednesday That they're going to mix him into team drills As early as next
4:43week So that's a positive sign Also, also Hold on, hold on, hold on So the draft actually started So we'll get
4:50to these questions I swear it's at 23 minutes And then the clock just randomly just shifted to the draft starting So
4:57I'm about to be on the clock So we'll get to Neighbors in just a second We'll get to Neighbors in a
5:04second Let me, let me Oh, geez I was not expecting that Yeah, we'll cover him We'll cover Malik Neighbors once he
5:11gets drafted At the 110, Pete ADP-wise, it would be somebody like James Cook I know we've come away with him before
5:18So in the queue for you Are you on the clock yet?
5:22Yeah, I am And I like what typically comes to us On the 2-3 turn Because it's third round reversal So I'm
5:29going to take James Cook off the bat here And then see what wide receivers come to me I also do want
5:36to get this to the draft board I'm trying to remember how do we I think it's the roster grid right here
5:44Yeah, here we go And while you're sorting that out, Pete Maybe there could be some leeway and lean towards Malik Neighbors
5:51in round two I think he's worthy of a round two pick Because to me, Malik Neighbors is a round one player
5:58We'll see if he comes back to you People will go and snipe and get their guy immediately And then we've heard
6:05a lot about the Buffalo Bills incorporating more of the pass game For James Cook And I think that would just vault
6:12him up so much Because what would be the pop in the balloon for somebody like James Cook?
6:18It would be, hey, you don't hit your touchdown metrics You don't hit the yardage like you should Almost like a player
6:25in a standard league Because if you're not getting the PPR, the receptions That efficiency, if it dips at all It really
6:32hurts you and then you plummet I mean, we've seen somebody like Kyron Williams go from 21 to 17 to 15 fantasy
6:39points per game The last three seasons So if there's any kind of chipping away That can really tank somebody's value like
6:46James Cook Granted, Cook runs pure on touchdowns The yardage, the RPO lanes that are there with Josh Allen But to hear
6:53this extra goodness And this is a PPR format in which we're drafting, Pete How high are you on James Cook in
7:00the event that he's more of a PPR player In the reception game Would you take, and there goes Malik Nabors Oh,
7:08we got him, cool, and we'll talk about him Do you go James Cook if you were assured 40 to 50 receptions
7:15Over somebody like Jonathan Taylor Or do you still keep Jonathan Taylor ahead of James Cook Because JT already has some reception
7:22tools in his bag Yeah, I'm high on Cook this year The drumbeat for him has been nice in terms of just
7:29You know, there was talk about the system And, you know, could we see more passing work?
7:34You know, Alec Braski of Sports Illustrated Did report that anytime you can get the ball in Cook's hands You got obviously
7:41a chance for a big play Is what Carmichael said on Monday And they talked about how they see value In not
7:49just the run game, but the pass game as well And Carmichael is somebody who we've seen You know, get the ball
7:56in his running back's hands In space in the passing game So I think we can expect that for James Cook I
8:03have James Cook and Jonathan Taylor Like neck and neck right now JT at eight, Cook at nine I'm totally fine getting
8:10exposure to both guys I will say I have clicked Cook more than I have Taylor Even though I have Taylor one
8:17spot ahead of Cook So, you know, it's rather close I did start off here James Cook, Malik Neighbors So let's talk
8:24Let's just talk Malik Neighbors At least for a second here And then we'll go back And we'll answer some of these
8:31questions As it snakes back to us here But with Neighbors Like I have Neighbors And I just took him at the
8:38third spot In the second round But I have Malik Neighbors Ranked as my 11th ranked player right now in fantasy I
8:45have him as a 1-2 guy I'm looking at it as Look, Neighbors may start the season off a little bit slow
8:52Just because he might not be 100% healthy But the reports seem really good He looks healthy He looks like he's running
9:00around well And I'm thinking I'm thinking second half of the season That stretch I'm excited to, you know To get him
9:07back for that When he starts to kind of rev up And get, you know, 100% So you could wait on Neighbors
9:14You know, that's totally fine And I'll mix in a little bit of Neighbors and AJ Brown And I know this feels
9:21like a high pick To take Neighbors But ultimately for me Like I don't mind taking that upside swing And you're looking
9:28for differentiation And Cook and Neighbors Are a little bit of a different build to start So I feel pretty confident in
9:35Neighbors Let's grab, Jay Some of these questions You can answer this one here from Kyle He said, how do we like Week 17 Mendoza and Beck stack?
9:44So I guess Arizona versus the Raiders Week 17 here He's asking if we like that stack between those guys I don't know, Jay What do you think?
9:53It's going to be low owned, low rostered You're going to be ahead of the field It's a back end, late round
10:00pick In the event that somebody like a Beck hits You are varied versus the field And then of course you have
10:07Fernando Mendoza Who, look, if their bye week is Week 13 They have a 5.5 over under win total The Raiders I'm
10:14sitting there thinking it could be midseason When Mendoza starts playing But then towards the back half Nearer to the bye We
10:22may end up seeing the first start For somebody like Fernando Mendoza I lean towards Mendoza starting earlier than later Then again,
10:29let's look at that Week 17 matchup Against the Cardinals I know the Cardinals are the lowest Vegas is pricing the lowest
10:36totals Depending on what sportsbook you have Cardinals are a bottom 5 Maybe even bottom 1 offense Depending on what book you're
10:43looking at For points per game But that environment for Week 17 is tremendous The weather's going to be perfect It's going
10:50to be in the Dome at least Or some kind of good weather there And they should let it fly And by
10:57then, we're thinking maybe Jeremiah Love and Ashton Janty Should be competing, dueling back and forth Just throwing the names out Brock
11:04Bowers, Michael Wilson, Trey McBride There's so many, I mean, running back battles Tight end battles That's going to be a phenomenal
11:11game It'll be interesting to see If we get Carson Beck on the other side To Fernando Mendoza So, like where your
11:18head's at It's a very contrarian, low-rostered play And in the event that you advance That's going to be a low-rostered stack
11:26Versus, okay, what's the most common, Pete? Drake May and A.J.
11:29Brown? Yeah, Drake May and A.J. Brown Is a fun stack I'm kind of with you in that Like, that's not If
11:36you're looking for uniqueness I think it's fine to go take a Mendoza back stack It's going to be really cheap There
11:43are going to be two players that Like you said, low-owned So it's interesting And you feel like it's a garbage time
11:50game There could be some big points Two really bad defenses at the end of the year So, I think that's fine
11:57I do want to highlight Before we get to the next question here I take Josh Allen I typically don't draft quarterbacks
12:05this high, Jay But, you know, I think I don't really have much exposure to Allen I like D.J.
12:11Moore a lot So I wouldn't mind grabbing him on the turn Coming back to us If he makes it back to
12:18us on that stack But I like just grabbing Allen His pieces are cheap I have Cook So I get some stack
12:25there And ultimately, in these big tournaments Like, you need those elite quarterbacks If you really want to win the big money, right?
12:32You can get away with, you know, winning your league You know, with maybe not the top five quarterbacks, right?
12:39You can get away with it, but in a big tournament Like, you need those guys to hit So I don't mind
12:46taking a chance Not really taking a chance But taking Allen here at this spot So that was kind of my kind
12:53of thought You know, that was kind of my thought there And I could still grab, like, Jackson Dart Later on to
13:00pair with neighbors Yeah, early informs middle And middle informs late in these drafts It's almost like reading a story And the
13:07book unfolds And you can kind of see the scenarios That will play out You have the Week 8 Giants bye week
13:14The Bills 7 So there wouldn't be a competition Between Allen and Dart In the fact that you would need the bye
13:21week You have bye week coverage, essentially And we just talked about the pass game narrative One of the coolest things This
13:29happens in DFS It's a principle that'll work Is, hey, if you have the running back And the quarterback You're accounting for
13:36all the team's points In theory that they score Because the connection of handing the ball off There's a touchdown there Accounted
13:43for Then, of course, the passing You've got the quarterback But then when it really hits And you connect quarterback to running
13:50back For a receiving touchdown You're just blowing up So that, we talked about Stack share of Mendoza and back AJ Brown,
13:57Drake May That would be, for such an expensive piece On the team Two players on the team This would be somewhat
14:04I'd be interested I think this would be A medium level of You know, variance As far as versus a field You
14:11have a little bit of differentiation And the cool thing is Whether you get Dart or not Hey, it remains to be
14:18seen Everybody has the same board You have players that set up Who your stack partners could be The cool thing that
14:25you opened up You mentioned DJ Moore But I also like the fact that Pete, if you do miss DJ Moore You
14:32could go in And get some Dalton Kincaid much later Then what if Dalton Kincaid Is a primary pass catcher in Buffalo
14:40Any thought to Because I've talked to you before About Brenton Strange And Parker Washington Where, hey Brenton Strange might hit A
14:47little bit more Than we like for Parker Washington Do we see any angle Where Dalton Kincaid Could hit a little bit
14:54more Versus DJ Moore At the expense of him?
14:57Yeah, for DJ I don't see it as much Just because I think Shakir Is really the one That gets eaten up
15:04More than I would for DJ I think DJ can play A little bit more On the outside You know In that
15:11more flanker Z kind of role He's not going to really be that X It's going to be Keon Coleman It's just
15:18going to be The sacrificial guy all year I do want to also mention Chicago and the Bills Play week one Of
15:25week 15 Now in this scenario We're talking Accumulating points, right?
15:29So, you know At that point It's not really like Pods in You know Best ball For some other Places where you'll
15:36draft Where it's like Hey, I got to Score high To move to the next round But Interesting that You know They
15:43get Chicago DJ Moore Going to be playing Against his old team It's going to be Against a really poor defense So
15:50that'll be fun To see week 15 And they also get Miami week 17 They do get Denver week 16 As well
15:57Which is a tough defense But I'm sure Josh Allen and them Are looking for some payback After that tough loss In
16:04the playoffs Jay But Let's transition To some more questions here Keep sending them in guys Justin said I just traded for
16:11Jaden Daniels In Dynasty How do we feel about him This year and beyond This is a pretty Important year For Jaden
16:18Daniels In my opinion Jay I really, really Want to see him Stay healthy I really, really Want to see what This
16:25offense looks like You know With Somewhat of that We think Ben Johnson Esque Kind of scheme Which is really Kind of
16:33A mixture Of a couple Of different schemes As well But ultimately That's going to be Big Can Jaden Daniels Stay on
16:40the field He hasn't really Proven to us In the first Two years Of his career That he can Stay healthy Jay
16:47And while the Upside and the Ceiling is there It could be Kind of one of Those things Where it's like Hey
16:54Is he kind of In that Joe Burrow Which Like Spot Where Because he Can't stay Healthy And on the Field So
17:01I think It's an Important year Also interesting To see how They utilize Him You know And how They go about Deploying
17:08him As a runner Versus years Past Well recall Coming in To the NFL There was all The hype Of what Jane
17:15Daniels Did at LSU With the VR Video glasses Where he would Yeah Really cool Simulation plays And we've seen How lethal
17:22he is As a passer My only pushback Frustration Is my god Lift a damn Weight Every time I see Jane Daniels
17:29His upper body Especially It's just so Just He needs to lift Just some weight I just need to know What is
17:37he doing At all In the weight room You just need a little Bit of something Because he will Just be Sometimes
17:44like a Toothpick Where He just gets hurt So easily Like on the Comebacker For the interception He threw The fact that
17:51he got Hurt on that play Running back He didn't quite Protect himself The Vikings defender Got him Like I just thought
17:58Like damn That's all it took So it can be Compounding too This league is cruel If you get one injury It
18:05pushes And We need Jane Daniels At full capacity So there's A decent worry For his frame size That I'd like to
18:12see him Do better at We hear about Jackson Dart Needs to slide more JD5 Needs to be able To just take
18:19Some of these hits Or avoid them And I would like To see him Get into the weight room But right now
18:26He doesn't look like that So we're hoping That he just goes back To the lethalness It really does help Though That
18:33he has Somebody like A Stefan Diggs Antonio Williams Is a layer Draft pick Good for the build And then you get
18:40A supporting Former teammate From college In Rashad White Hopefully he'll show Good in the pass game For him Be another utility
18:48Dump off option Year two A matriculation For Ja'Cory Crosskey Merit We want that So yes I'm high on JD5 I would
18:55still buy Still like him But those are just My little critiques But I see As you said Pete Pivotal year three
19:02JD5 Puts it together And love this pick As we're talking You finish the stack With DJ Moore He probably doesn't Come
19:09back to you And then He might He might have I mean We still have to Come back After your Yeah Yeah
19:16I wasn't gonna get him So I just said You know what Because The wide receivers Luther's still there Terry Jamo Devante
19:23Mike Evans Rome He's going Kind of like that Rome Evans area In ADP So I wasn't Gonna get him On the
19:30way back It probably Wasn't gonna happen The next pick Is interesting though Jay Because You know I don't really Have much
19:37exposure To Luther Burden To be honest With you And I have Not that I've Stayed away I just haven't Been nearly
19:44as high I do prefer Typically going For Rome There There's some Interesting people On the board Here There's There's Running backs
19:51And this room Is really thinning out There's not a lot Of running backs Left I do like Some of these guys
19:59Past Cook Should I I mean It's either It's a three wide Receiver start Right So do we go Anchor running back
20:06And just kind of Let it Let it fly We did take a Luxury pick With quarterbacks So I still feel Like
20:13we have to Continue at the At the wide receiver Spot What are your Thoughts here With these guys That are on
20:20the board I love Jameson Williams For what he could End up becoming If you were to get The matriculation up Because
20:27we're talking About 90 to 100 Targets the last Two seasons Respectively for Jameson Williams George Pickens Had something like 90 to
20:34100 Targets Back to back Seasons I think it was Like 100 And 106 And then he had An 1100 Receiving yard
20:41Season And a 1000 Yard receiving Season And then we Saw 1400 Receiving yard Season From George Pickens Last year Where he
20:48got 137 targets So my theory My play My thought Is that Jameson Williams Can get you Up to that George Pickens
20:55Level And he's priced Right now To where You gotta click Him now Because next year He's gonna be Much more expensive
21:03In that Lions Offense But I like What you did With Terry McLaurin I know I took Terry I took Terry I
21:10was running Out of time There I had like Five seconds And you were Going through And I thought About going J-Mo
21:17And I looked At my rankings And I just Saw I have Terry ranked At 20 And to have A chance Of
21:24getting Him still You know I have J-Mo Ranked at 28 But that's Not best Ball rankings It's just Overall J-Mo should
21:31be Ranked a little Bit higher In best Ball Just because Like he had Like I think Eight weeks Under 10 Points
21:38last Year But the Spikes are Just so High For him And then You also Open up It's another Vane Another Artery
21:45To JD5 As we Talked about A moment Ago Now the Whole board Yes you can All who are Listening Go and
21:52Select him And that's Fine We make Moves For moves The one Correlation Conflict Would be The commanders And the Bills Have
21:59a Week 7 Bye But we Have to Get there When it Presents Itself And then Also Last week Pete We took
22:06Baker Mayfield Kyler Murray And then We took Some upside Stabs At QB3 Mac Jones And Jalen Milrow So going Into the
22:14Season Two Guaranteed Starters In last Week's Draft This Week's Draft If you Were to Have the Competing Bye Weeks You would
22:21Certainly Need a Third Quarterback Are you Of the Mind That we May come Away With Three Quarterbacks I know It's Early
22:28Now Do you Think This Ends Up Being A Three Quarterback Build Or do You Rely If There's No Bye Week Competition
22:35Do you Just Lean Into It's Josh Allen It All Depends On How The Board Falls It's Tough When You Take A
22:42Quarterback This High Because Like I Said It Is A Luxury Pick Sometimes And You Start To Play Catch Up I While
22:49Running So I Just Look At It Like I Just I Had To Go That Way As For The Quarterback Like It's
22:56Like I'm Going To Draft The Second Quarterback At Some Point But It's Gonna Be It's Not To Be For A While
23:03And I Thought About JMO In My Head I Said To Myself I I Really about it but i was like i
23:10was like it just feels like i'm forcing too much not forcing because i don't like the stack but i was just
23:17like i said i just go back to that like i probably can't draft a quarterback that early and i'm like and
23:25i do have terry ranked higher so that that was why i deferred and went that way when it comes to the
23:32bye weeks i don't start worrying about bye weeks until we get to like round 10 like i like i just draft
23:39the for my stacks and for the the players i like the most and then i start to figure out stuff later
23:46on you know i don't want too many issues too many problems to have to try to solve later on i get
23:53that but um to me it's like best ball is best ball it's not managed redraft where i have to find somebody
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24:07well we're gonna just get guys that are gonna slot in for those bye weeks that are that are we just need
24:14a spike week here and there from one of these guys um so we just gotta we just gotta position ourselves well
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28:16and uh yeah gotta say it's uh it's shaping up to be interesting sam laporta does just go and laporta is a
28:23guy that i wanted but i'm i'm okay not getting him i do want to talk about a really mispriced player uh
28:30once i take this next pick here um some of these wide receivers sticking out marvin harrison jr btj courtland sutton alec
28:37pierce this is a range of wide receivers i just don't really care for what i will say is uh trevin henderson
28:44comes back to me jay which really really really uh surprised by that i mean his adp is 50 and he falls
28:51to pick 70 i know there was some ramondre stevenson hype a little bit on the timeline today in the joint practices
28:58he made some plays and looked really good but uh not really sure why trevin henderson falling to pick 70 behind guys
29:06like jaylen warren um you know bucky irving jodera and price i know there's some risk there with trevion because ramondre is
29:13a really good player jay but in a best ball format we're talking upside we're talking ceiling uh to get trevin henderson
29:20uh in round six late round six is just not what i was expecting especially when i took a luxury pick with
29:27josh allen and i consider taking him when i took terry mcclorn which was you know over 12 picks ago uh so
29:34surprising to me that's one of the best feelings when you have a few players in mind you take one and you
29:41think you're going to lose the other by the time it comes back to you and then they fall that happened to
29:48me last week where i was interested in conception and i think he went two rounds after we were considering him pete
29:55but the stimulus for trevion henderson falling is we're getting a little bit of buzz that he's still struggling with some pass
30:02protection in training camp so that carries enough weight because it brings people back to the memory of he couldn't get on
30:10the field and bust through and then you had i think it was like a 25 to 3 carry share in that
30:17denver broncos game where ramondre stevenson just dominated touches and that sticks with people and if that murmur comes back up it's
30:24going to depress the price and the beauty is you're in round five with trevion henderson it's like a sean michael super
30:31kick pick because if he ends up hitting his ceiling he's up in the range where jameer gives and b john robinson
30:38are next year because it's the jameer gives kind of skill set that we love for trevion henderson so you are paying
30:45up to a degree still for him to fall from where he was trevion henderson this is a phenomenal value and the
30:52beauty is we're not starting trevion henderson in week one he can hit our lineup in week one but as you alluded
30:59to pete we don't have to start or sit players we can just let it fall where it may so maybe week
31:06one trevion henderson in the first few weeks doesn't hit and there goes ramondre stevenson but maybe a couple of backs that
31:13you end up with end up hitting the lineup for the rb2 spot or end up hitting a flex spot for you
31:21and we see you you go with jonathan brooks thank you so talk about that and tell me if you had any
31:28more on the trevion henderson angle i don't much more on the henderson angle this has been a this has been a
31:35really strange draft i i understand from some aspect like you know team 12 going here and they take justin herbert and
31:42then they come back around and take dak they took an unstacked herbert maybe they're going for for you know trey harris
31:49or you know clinton johnston uh but jayden daniels goes off the board as you know one two three four five six
31:56seven eighth quarterback off the board a pretty surprising we talked about daniels a little bit to to start the show we
32:03had a couple questions on him i mean i have daniels ranked as my qb3 uh this this this guy that gets
32:10daniels takes him unstacked and i i don't blame him i mean pretty much just saying hey this guy just fell to
32:17me he's a great quarterback and i'll just take him unstacked and just live with it because the upside's there so pretty
32:24interesting the caleb caleb williams owner just before that does have aj brown so i guess that's part probably no i'm sorry
32:32they have roma dunze so i guess that's part of why they took him but nearly here nor there i took jonathan
32:39brooks um so now you know so far the team is james cook malik neighbors josh allen dj moore terry mclaurin trevin
32:46henderson john the brook so i have the stack with uh josh allen um i cover up for the buys a little
32:53bit here because you know with the running backs at least uh you know when james cook is out i do have
33:00the two running backs there on separate buys again don't not super worried about the buys but it kind of just happens
33:07so you know we'll live with it that's totally fine we still set ourselves up to grab a guy like jackson dart
33:14um if we wanted to go that route get isaiah likely who i have uh you know i just came out on
33:21my sub stack you can read it uh i just came out with my targets and fades and likely is it target
33:28for me um it was not that way when the season offseason started but um you know they're just looking at the
33:36adp and where some guys have gotten pushed up and pushed down um i like where he's going currently uh so there's
33:43some avenues and some routes that we can go i do like jonathan brooks though i mean the drum beat's been really
33:50nice on him uh you know right now if you if you are paying attention to what is going on you know
33:57over there in uh you know in that in that camp he is sharing the work with hubbard in next preseason game
34:04and he didn't start in the hall of fame game he didn't even play so the fact that he's mixing it up
34:11with chuba hubbard chubba hubbard um is a good sign for those that are drafting jonathan brooks and uh he is going
34:18pretty high in drafts so i didn't mind taking him there uh i don't worry too much about the adp anymore the
34:25way i draft only time i really pay attention to adp j is when it's like hey i really love a player
34:32and i know i can wait on him even though i think maybe the board has mispriced him by 20 30 spots
34:39um you know that's the only time where i'm like okay i'm gonna take a chance and still wait off he hold
34:47off here before i take this guy but outside of that i don't mind you know shooting my shot on brooks uh
34:54this high uh in in this draft hey right here team seven i wonder if they go stefan diggs oh okay they
35:01didn't go stefan diggs i'll be curious to see if round 9 10 they go stefan diggs to go with jane daniels
35:08because you had mentioned the naked element with daniels but with the signing of stefan diggs now that becomes a viable option
35:15sometimes what will happen like the person in team 12 went just over to not front load your stack and only stack
35:22based on what's in front it ladder down and think of the players who are down in adp an example being when
35:29we got josh allen we weren't married to dj moore we had the element of you could get a khalil shakir or
35:36you could get somebody like a dalton kinkade so it'll be interesting to see what team seven does there but i love
35:43what you did p going back to your build three running backs three receivers got josh allen is there any tendency to
35:50come away with a quarterback at the 8-9 turn or are you going to keep leaning into probably because there's three receiver
35:58format one of these wide receivers yeah i i've thought about i thought about going a couple different ways alec pierce is
36:05following right now but i still don't really have much desire to draft him uh tight end wise there's some guys that
36:12have fallen i still have my guy dalton kinkade if i want to take him uh quarterbacks you know you got purdy
36:19you got jackson dart um i'm gonna go ahead and i'll just take jackson dart here i was thinking purdy just because
36:26you can still get a cheap stack with him debo and george kittle um i just worried that i wouldn't get kittle
36:33on the way back uh if i didn't take him next round and i just didn't want to be forced to have
36:40to do that um we still have the option of going dalton kinkade if we wanted to get the stack there but
36:47i'm also not going to press it because i'm not the highest on dalton kinkade either so um i'm just glad i
36:54got dart it opens up the ability to you know grab i love the tight ends that are better on the board
37:02i mean harold fan and jr just went off but this range of tight ends dalton kinkade kittle jake fergus and travis
37:09kelsey isaiah likely dallas goddard andrews like i like a lot of those tight ends so we're kind of set up in
37:16a way where we can still get kinkade we can still get likely potentially and even if we miss out on those
37:23guys like it's a tight end i'm not i'm not worried if i don't get the tight end for my stack either
37:30now game theory when you went into the jackson dart pick in my head i was thinking okay team 12 is not
37:37going to go quarterback so game theory what are the chances team 11 o'brien here would have gone jackson dart he actually
37:44i think it's good on the front end that you went jackson dart before this pick came back to you because they
37:51have since gone jared goff say that 10 times really quickly and brock purdy so they're going to have to worry about
37:58the back stack on the 49ers but something tells me that they may not have been worried about if they're not worried
38:05about a brock purdy back stack later who's to say they would not have sniped jackson dart on you so great pick
38:13good on you and there you go you uneven the 3-3 element at the receiver and running back position get your fourth
38:20receiver in mckay lemon we got him last week as well pete at a decent value as well i love that mckay
38:27lemon pick or do you have any concerns or do you think he's fallen a little bit in this draft for the
38:34fact that he's had what is it a hamstring issue and there's a little bit of a recurring theme where he's off
38:41the field do you think we're getting any kind of discount there we have plenty of wide receivers who are falling you
38:48know say flowers gets her a mecca buka and then later luther burden we hear later oh they're fine it's okay but
38:55you're like please bubble wrap them any concern about mckay lemon and are you loving the value that you have round nine
39:02mckay lemon yeah i i buy the fear great player uh you know i think the situation by the way dan we'll
39:09get to you and king i'll get to you in just a second as well um keep asking questions if you guys
39:16have them but yeah mckay lemon at this spot right i get him at you know one of two one oh one
39:24i got him at 99 um i look for those that don't know that don't know yeah like jay said you know
39:31lemon appears unlikely to play you know in this eagles uh you know pre-season games and stuff like that but i i
39:38think i think he's gonna be okay when it comes to getting out there week one i'll be a little bit more
39:45nervous if you know if we get closer and closer and he's still not participating but this is a guy that took
39:52pick 20 overall i loved mckay lemon coming out so i still really really like the talent um don tavian wicks people
39:59are worried about him yeah i think i think don tavian wicks is just going to be like a a good football
40:06player addition i don't know that he's going to be a volume guy a guy that's going to going to eat up
40:13a bunch of touches and a bunch of targets um i think when lemon's out there and he's healthy um he's going
40:20to be that number two guy maybe goddard's more that number two in the red zone but lemon's going to be that
40:28number two i'm not i'm not worried jay i mean and this is where you take those upside shots in a tournament
40:35like this in a player that's a first rounder top 20 pick in the draft this year um on an offense that
40:42we expect to be better than they were last year um and so yeah i have no issues no concerns taking lemon
40:49here if you're worried about taking a guy like him in a managed league where it's redraft that i can understand right
40:56not knowing when to start him i get that in a best ball format like this though i'm i don't have concerns
41:03well take it it's week one mckay lemon goes three for 56 people are shitting bricks because he only has an eight
41:10point performance and then it's week two and don tavian wicks connects on two large bombs that hey are great for some
41:17best ball teams and great for your dfs lineups right and then it's week three and people are just hitting the panic
41:24button on mckay lemon you can absolutely see that happening but people panic they're not patient and here you are get round
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42:14isaiah likely does go off the board didn't make it back to me but that's okay not gonna not gonna sweat that
42:21too much let's get the dance question here guys and then again keep sending your questions if you guys have him he
42:28said in redraft 10 man ppr he wants to know brock and carnell tate or neighbors and tucker craft that i mean
42:35i'm assuming this is brock bowers yes right yeah yes it's it's a tight end and receiver four for four the others
42:42and you're is brock or and this will happen in dynasty streets do you prefer brock bowers or malik neighbors and it
42:50could be tight end premium or not and then tate and then neighbors are the receivers that are compared brock and craft
42:57are the tight ends that are compared the bigger pieces are of course brock and neighbors and secondary tate and craft to
43:04me i like war value and i sit there and say to myself craft is more likely to eat into brock's yeah
43:11share and neighbor ceiling is going to maintain and abound whereas the chances of tate reaching into neighbor's ceiling is lesser so
43:18by that virtue i'm getting war value in craft eating into brock bowers and i don't see that outweighs to me tate
43:25trying to reach and manifest to malik neighbors because i still think it's wish casting as much as i love uh carnell
43:32tate on the player profiler he's right about wide receiver eight or nine in the dynasty ranks but there's a guy who's
43:39had 160 targets who has 170 to 200 target pace if he's all healthy in a 17 game rookie season for neighbors
43:46tate we're just projecting that we're still wish casting that we haven't seen it happen give me neighbors and craft what do
43:54you got pete yeah it's crazy same wavelength here i was thinking the same thing right i mean i i love carnell
44:01tate but as as a rookie he's gonna have to do some incredible incredible things on a really really poor offense that
44:08does have a lot of weapons right i mean you have uh you know when you look at historical seasons like neighbors
44:15right bad offense but neighbors didn't have weapons they did have on a lot washington ironically who we're talking about as weapons
44:22right for carnell tate same guy but ultimately same thought process as you right the the the chances of of tate being
44:29a top 10 guy and being in that threshold that neighbors is going to be in where neighbors has top five potential
44:36is not nearly as likely as tucker craft getting maybe not to where bowers is but getting pretty dang close ish on
44:43a points per game basis i see that happening and being more likely um we do have another question in here but
44:50i do want to grab my pick here really quick we got 30 set 39 seconds left and dalton kincaid comes back
44:57to us so that's perfect right dalton kincaid comes back to us we didn't press it we didn't push it right we
45:05are able to take lemon the high upside guy who really really wanted we didn't press a stack right i try not
45:12to press stacks as much as possible jay um likely goes off the board which sucks because i do like likely over
45:19kincaid but i'll take kincaid here and be happy with it and quite honestly i don't mind taking potentially another tight end
45:26on the way back with these guys like kittle and travis kelsey who i have both of those guys ranked inside the
45:33top 100 so like if i'm fine with taking them if travis kelsey he was i think tight end three last year
45:40if he increases from five touchdowns last year to 10 which can absolutely happen for travis kelsey and the eric b enemy
45:47offense i'm calling a dead cat bound season for travis kelsey you're talking about a guy who could absolutely be the tight
45:54end one and he's just being left for dead so i like your idea there but let's talk about dalton kincaid a
46:01little bit all ones and twos next to his name on our player profiler site production premium quarterback rating per target 149.2
46:09first fancy points per route run number one 0.67 first sounds per route run number one yards per route run 3.02 number
46:16one dalton kincaid so it's insane it's crazy uh where tucker craft and colson loveland are so efficient on their own but
46:23they've been able to do some volume dalton kincaid we just have to see pete he's got efficiency but can we get
46:30long term long form volume but my god you have just full stack share unique share of to me i would think
46:37you got dj moore dalton kincaid josh allen and james cook like the four horsemen of the buffalo bills in that brand
46:44new stadium which people are shitting on left and right pete how do you feel about the but you might have to
46:51go to a buffalo bills game it might be where do they play home we got to see their schedule if the
46:58bills are at home week 17 oh they're on the road against the dolphins you had mentioned so what are they that
47:05broncos game p is that going to be at buffalo i don't know i have to take a look by the way
47:12i was in a trance listening to what you said and i just got auto drafted kyle monunga and i left travis
47:20kelsey on the board so uh my bad they're not not ideal um i don't really love the Monongai pick so i'm
47:27not gonna spend too much time on it that was my bad i timed out and didn't even pay well hey here's
47:34some coat pete when there's that bears bills matchup it's just gonna correlate so well i guess that's true and you may
47:41be crazy you might have a league winner because if deandre swift gets hurt and the bears don't bring any kind of
47:48uh trade acquisition running back in all of a sudden you've got a stolen running back so this might just be the
47:55universe striking down some diversification for you yeah yeah it's uh it's in denver by the way well this may end up
48:02being an evan ingram team p we've talked up some evan ingram very late so if you have to go back we
48:09we can cope we can tell some cope stories and there goes khalil shakir oh no you know it's gonna be okay
48:16you don't need khalil shakir uh just before that though denzel boston pete can you talk about we were joking in a
48:23chat with our very own wyatt who's a beloved browns fan um deshaun watson threw up just the shittiest pass today and
48:31it just wobbled and spun around in the air harold fan and jr has to bat the ball down like he's playing
48:38volleyball it's just atrocious it's really bad dog water situation dog pound but denzel washington pete is crushing in practice boston day
48:45in day out how happy are you about that are you excited to draft him in these contests in other formats and
48:52redraft where are you at on year one denzel boston because we're getting hype i remember pre-nfl draft process those guys a
48:59lot like drake london or ted or mcmillan and here we're hearing drum beats about the browns feel like they have their
49:06own drake london year one is this something good for denzel boston yeah i mean i like boston um liked him coming
49:13out i liked casey more uh i like both guys a lot but i just really fell in love with casey conception's
49:20tape uh boston goes ahead of casey uh who hasn't gone off just yet so a little bit of a flip there
49:27because it was casey going ahead of boston but the drum beats just gotten louder um so yeah love to love to
49:35kind of see that um i would have loved coker over monungai uh i'm gonna be stinging about this for a little
49:42bit now um it's just super i'm super frustrated about that pick but whatever are you tilting are you tilting i'm tilting
49:49i'm tilting a little bit i'm i'm not happy about this at all but it is crazy because i'm sitting there like
49:56okay to your point pete and this is good for the audience right because we're here for them jalen coker you prefer
50:03denzel boston you prefer would you even prefer jake ferguson or is that is that the line there uh if i needed
50:10a tight end yeah i would have preferred but i'm not i'm not upset like i wanted kelsey kelsey maybe kelsey comes
50:17back to me i think it's crazy that he's still on the board i don't know it is it really is but
50:24let let me let let's grab let's let's rapid fire through some of these questions really quick um i dan came back
50:31and said if it was marv instead of tate would you change your mind it wouldn't change my mind no i think
50:38that would actually make it worse i'm more bullish on i think it's a better offer the one that involves tate so
50:46i'm trying to understand are you trying to acquire if you let us know are you trying to acquire malik neighbors and
50:53tucker craft and trying to sweeten the pot so i i would love to know that uh but if you have malik
51:00neighbors and tucker craft i i park it right there one note that was a 10 team lee every team in theory
51:07should be stacked like if you don't have a stack looking team in a 10 team league you're doing something very wrong
51:14but even all that accounting all even i still want malik neighbors and tucker craft so we do see brenton strange goes
51:21before travis kelsey mark andrews how would you sort that out in preference it seems like pete you wanted travis kelsey of
51:28course but brenton strange versus mark andrews uh which way would you lean um let's take a look yeah i have andrews
51:35at 13 and i have brenton strange what do i have strange strange strange strange strange strange because i can't find strange
51:42oh i have brenton strange at 14 so andrews 13 brenton strange at 14 jake ferguson uh at 12 two more two
51:49more picks peak i don't want you to get i know i know well i gotta say by the way yeah i'm
51:57so tilted about this because the receivers right now on the board just absolutely stink you got rashid shaheed i'm gonna share
52:04this tab you have rashid shaheed jalen mcmillan trey harris juan jennings cooper nailer tucker i mean this is this is this
52:11is this this kind of no man's land right now i mean stripling you could maybe consider if you're believing in the
52:18hype um maybe he's worth a flyer i would go trey harris maybe wow yeah i was thinking harris too i was
52:25i was the guy at make the guy at the 112 tilt because he took an unstacked justin herbert probably thinking there'd
52:32be nobody else pete in the draft who would want some trey harris and you take him two picks before he would
52:39have double tapped almost guarantee if we could see team 12 in the chat just comment like yeah f all you guys
52:46right now because you would have wanted some trey hair so look you're garnering some of that back and i know as
52:53much as you want travis kelsey there are other tight ends out there pete and uh terence ferguson um uh i think
53:01gads didn't make team 12 tilt more well yeah although they might go if they take gas and right now that's going
53:08to tell me that they were for sure interested in probably some combination yeah they were probably trying you're definitely trying to
53:15stack well because they have prescott so they really only have lamb ferguson just went off the board so they just lost
53:22ferguson jake they couldn't stack him they maybe take ryan florinoy they take stripling okay stripling and bryce it's just a gross
53:29team uh really really gross team although to go to go lamb jefferson and flowers i do like that start cam scadbo
53:36round four not so sure i'm not high on josh jacobs just because everything that's going on around him and i also
53:43think there's there's other picks that i prefer i i don't know what it is pete i find myself not clicking on
53:50josh hold on hold on hold on hold on dude harris and manungai both have week seven buys as well to make
53:57it even to put more salt in the wound when we're talking about the bye weeks on this team and i said
54:04i didn't care too much harris also has a bye week seven so i really i gotta i gotta fill this up
54:12here wait oh hold on are you sure about that because manungai it says chicago 10 oh 10 10 so i was
54:19looking at i was gonna get kinkade either way it doesn't help my situation i mean either way you wish you had
54:26travis kelsey that that's really the crux of it uh yeah maybe who do you want here who's on your who's in
54:33your queue it's just such a bad grouping of players right now man um i i just i'm really just not happy
54:40with hey scroll down if you need to you're at a 20 gapper it's gonna be a long time till they come
54:47back get your guy man oh gosh oh man um shoot man i'm gonna go i'm gonna go with juan johnson i'm
54:54gonna go take juan i'll take juan i know it's not sexy i got him ranked 15 you know um tight end
55:01positions getting a little thin and i just yeah whatever i don't i hate this team right this is a bad team
55:08it's a bad team i like it to start and then and then this is just like this has just been an
55:15awful like four picks i don't love kinky but i took him for the stack which is fine but then i get
55:23mononga harris and johnson it's like just such a just such a gross four players man i like juan johnson i like
55:30juan johnson i don't mind your hairs i don't like kyle mononga that much i don't like all dalton kincaid that much
55:37ironically like i have juan johnson ranked higher than dalton kincaid who i took four rounds below dalton kincaid three rounds so
55:44i'm tilting a little bit here well this is this is good though from an exercise of it's true serum so when
55:51you're in another draft you sure as shit know you do not want kyle mononga and i've had a couple of hold
55:58your nose picks and other formats where it's best ball high volume i'm talking i'm gonna end up between three and four
56:05hundred teams i've clicked a couple common on guys and i don't love it but i'm sitting there thinking well if he
56:12gets 10 to 12 touchdown run out or if it's the jamal williams path pete and he luck boxes into so many
56:19inside the five yard touchdowns and the weather gets bad and november and december football all of a sudden monsters of the
56:27midway just that that momentum where the bears they were fifth in team run plays per game last year so there's opportunity
56:34there plenty but it just seems like the ceiling won't be there until the event that something were to happen to a
56:41deandre swift so i know i know what you're thinking it's just it's such a not sexy pick i think is the
56:48crux of it yeah i mean look mononga can be fine uh it's just team build construction wise like when i'm just
56:55looking at what i want to do in a draft like this you know i want three wide receivers you know you
57:02have three wide receivers i mean my receivers are fine i mean it's malik it's dj it's terry like all three of
57:09those guys they're definitely some of them do carry risk right we just talk about age and then health and staying healthy
57:16dj getting up there he's 29 terry's getting up there he's also had some health issues and you have more neighbors so
57:23there's some risk there but again high risk high reward like totally okay with that um i just would have liked it
57:30to be a little bit better than it is but um this is definitely an upside team i mean henderson james cook
57:38jonathan brooks at the running backs we got the quarterbacks i love josh allen of course and um it's not a bad
57:45team uh it's not a bad team i do want to say pete needs a break here uh so let's take a
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59:2422 p.m granted we've been on this live stream you are tilting over the tight end position not getting travis kelsey well
59:31can i interest you pete in no tight end darren waller and the carolina panthers have reached a one-year deal it's wide
59:38open bryce young another year of development and ascension jatavion sanders didn't quite hit like we've wanted yeah i think it's i
59:45think it says a lot about how they really feel about jatavion um i mean all the starters aren't playing in the
59:53first game and jatavion sanders is uh for preseason in the hall of fame game i mean is he stuck behind tommy
60:00tremble it's a really tough scene the thing about jatavion sanders is he was starting to kind of ramp up and cook
60:07and you would see it but then he got hurt and he can never kind of get out of his own way
60:14funny enough jatavion sanders gunner helm gunner helms another name maybe we could go towards pete uh these texas tight ends have
60:21very similar builds so there's that's just something that i watch in the the archetype profile of texas tight ends unfortunately we
60:28haven't seen jatavion sanders hit yet and it may not it's not looking good with the darren waller signing gunner helm is
60:35somebody who i'm eyeing out there as well hopefully he matriculates up with somebody like cam ward so when i say the
60:42name the name's terrence ferguson or the names uh gunner helm any interest there pete or are you just down bad still
60:49as i did um i would prefer ferguson i think the ceiling is higher there uh with with ferg i like gunner
60:56helm i just i don't know that that the ceiling is nearly as high for for him as ferguson um i i
61:04do have some i do have something in mind here on this turn uh i'm gonna i'm gonna i am gonna grab
61:11a third quarterback um i am gonna take mendoza if he falls to me uh and try to get some cheap stacks
61:18here with some of these raiders wide receivers you have jalen nailer trey tucker um i do happen to like those guys
61:25for best ball so um i'm gonna take a third quarterback just because let me just take one quick peek here just
61:32to make sure i mean i do i don't mind taking tank bigsby too i really like having like the high-end handcuff
61:39um but these wide receivers i mean nobody's really like sticking out to me that i'm just like wow i love them
61:46i would maybe consider taking pat bryant but um i'll take mendoza here take mendoza there we love that and we talked
61:53about jack betch and fernando mendoza playing against the arizona cardinals in week 17 so you line yourself up for something like
62:00that not the worst thing and remember last week pete we drafted malik benson very late we hear about running with the
62:08one so there's another one that in the 20s as it gets buried you may be able to present yourself another cheap
62:15stack so i kind of like what you did and josh allen jackson dart what better player to have as your third
62:22quarterback than somebody like fernando mendoza when you don't have to deal with worrying about when mendoza would play and as we
62:29get to the middle of the draft here we're here now in round 15 this back half there's a little bit of
62:36a redraft mindset if you think proactively for the fact that you need to acquire who would be the week four pickup
62:43on the waiver wire streets the week eight pickup week 12 pickup like you have to anticipate all these players as it
62:50gets to the depth charts range the bench range so this will be fun to see as you're scaffolding your team so
62:57i like that you did that for your third we had somebody consider stacking schmacking i guess they're not a huge proponent
63:04granted you want cumulative points but there is a degree the dfs element where in a weekly vacuum as you're stacking points
63:11one goes with the other yeah no and and it's like i said i don't i try not to press the stack
63:19i didn't even press the stack with dalton kincaid he just came back to me um i we talked about i didn't
63:26even really want him i kind of wanted kiddle or kelsey i was kind of hoping that kincaid would be gone so
63:33i didn't i didn't take him um but i did um ironically i take mendoza and then i don't even go with
63:40one of those raiders wide receivers i just took seattle's defense because you know i i'm always a big proponent of not
63:47drafting defense as high and um at this time in this area uh to get seattle uh who i i have seattle
63:54ranked um let me just double check here uh yeah i have seattle ranked third uh i don't have the rams are
64:01the first defense off the board i have the rams ranked at like seven once aaron donald signs they'll probably move up
64:08a little bit to probably like closer to five or four but um i just figured you know what let me go
64:15take the high end upside with defense here it seems like we're getting a defense run anyway um chance that i i
64:22don't know if anybody's really pushing and pressing to go get you know jaylen nailer and some of these other you know
64:30raiders guys and even if i don't get this guy i don't mind taking like a michael mayor and and maybe taking
64:37malik benson later as the only two guys connected to mendoza but either way i get some insurance there with with uh
64:44with the quarterback so um you want to read kyle's question here yep a little room for a keeper question do you
64:51keep tony pollard or george kittle in a keeper redraft i'm going to assume they're both mid to i don't know late
64:58round picks george kittle was probably a little more expensive last year i would lean towards the positional onesie advantage in george
65:05kittle pete do you like the surety of a 1a back in tony pollard or do you go for the upside in
65:12a top five fancy points per game season guy like george kittle yeah i mean it's it's it's kittle for me too
65:19uh i just look at it like get the position taken and out of the way guy has upside getting tony pollard
65:26it's not like oh okay great now i'm good on depth i don't need the draft running back depth like you get
65:34pollard as a keeper it's not really like changing how you draft it's kind of just like oh this is nice i
65:41have tony pollard you draft kittle you can say all right i have kittle this changes how my style i don't need
65:48to take a tight end the first couple rounds i don't need to take the tight end maybe in the top 100
65:55and maybe i can go take you know if i have kittle i can maybe go take uh you know a guy
66:02later on that i like like a juan jenning uh juan johnson or you know hunter henry or greg dolcich or whatever
66:09right like that's that's how my mindset goes even if pollard goes off the board typically ahead of kittle in redraft like
66:16i just get keeping pollard does nothing for me yeah exactly it's kind of like kyle mononga it really doesn't do much
66:23for you doesn't get the juices flowing doesn't get the blood flowing you have that upside in a george kittle and because
66:30it's early season we don't know the return rate although kittle looks like he's moving pretty well maybe you supply with some
66:37jake tongis and that week one matchup you at least have the shorty of it almost be like if park bowers were
66:45dealing with some ailment you might as well just have michael mayer and not have to worry but that's not the case
66:52but that's just in the hypothetical exercise so with somebody like george kittle way late at the very end nobody right now
66:59is gonna go and take jake tongis on you in a redraft league when you have george kittle so i think that
67:06would be a good idea to implement keep kittle as your keeper and get your running backs elsewhere i don't think they're
67:13the one thing in a keeper league if it's two by 12 that's 24 players who are taken from the player pool
67:20a lot of running backs have gone i i just don't still think i would be interested in tony pollard to your
67:27point pete no no now pete what's coming up here in the next couple picks what direction are you again read off
67:34the team build what you have you have three quarterbacks you have two tight ends a defense how many running backs yeah
67:41i have uh currently have my quarterbacks are josh allen mendoza and dart um running backs i have james cook so that's
67:48a stack with uh allen i have chevin henderson jonathan brooks kyle monungai uh wide receivers i have malik neighbors who i
67:56get stacked with dart i have dj moore who stacks with allen um and then i have terry mcclore and makai lemon
68:03trey harris uh tight end i have dalton kincaid and then i have juan johnson and the seattle defense um in terms
68:10of where i'm going here jaylen nailer does come back to me and so does trey tucker um i prefer jaylen nailer
68:17i'll take nailer here again just one of those things i didn't press just because i wanted nailer for the stack i
68:24took the the the uh the surefire better pick in seattle stacks you know if you don't count the stacks seattle's defense
68:31is just a much much better pick there so i'm happy about that malik washington goes off the board who a little
68:38bit frustrating that that i didn't see him in the queue we're going to be honest um because i have malik washington
68:45i talked a little bit about my risers uh you know this week and malik washington is a riser for me um
68:52i have malik washington i want to say i have him ranked inside the top 140 uh just for overall players um
69:00at wide receiver jay i have malik washington at wide receiver 58 ahead of khalil shakir ahead of rasheed shaheed right now
69:07um what what are your thoughts on malik washington i mean drumbeat's been pretty good for him too uh you know not
69:14a lot of target competition uh i have i have washington pick 138 that's where i have him ranked overall i'm very
69:21high on caleb douglas he was a sleeper for me in the pre-draft process and then he got such good draft capital
69:28round three ahead of chris bell which is insane chris bell people are forgetting round one talent without the injury and the
69:35thing about douglas is the dimensions of the field the defenders are lucky that there's dimensions on the field because there's an
69:42actual out of bounds there's plays where douglas is just long gone and if you can recall the dallas cowboys randy moss
69:49thanksgiving game he catches a pass and then just like jukes the defender turns up field and sprints i see a little
69:56bit of that ability in somebody like a caleb douglas now catch radius and all the other elements that a receiver needs
70:03trust me caleb douglas does not have in the vein of somebody like randy moss but it's just like one little thing
70:11that glimmer of like hey what can you do that's hyper well um caleb douglas does provide a pretty decent target for
70:18himself my only issue with douglas is in the red zone he's a little bit weaker the ball will get popped out
70:25of his hands easily and he's not as big of a target in that tight zone area as we would like i'd
70:32like to see him come down with more in the red zone but i i'm team caleb douglas and i prefer him
70:39over malik washington malik washington really hasn't shown early in his career just yet but the argument for malik washington would be
70:46high volume and now that waddles out of the way tyreek hill opportunity abounds and funny enough that's every i can make
70:53we can make that case pete for every dolphins player shy of devon a chan he's insulated but greg dulcich oh he's
71:00just gonna get volume because he's a tight end there it's free caleb douglas malik washington it's all there for any positional
71:07player in this dolphins offense because you really don't know who's going to separate so what do you make of do you
71:14think it's caleb douglas or are you of the mind it sounds like you're of the mind that malik washington will be
71:22the one in miami yeah i i i do think it's gonna be malik washington um i i like you said this
71:29is an offense that's not really gonna be super sexy anyway um not how high is the ceiling i don't know but
71:36washington's you know gadgety you know upside player he might not get a ton of volume but i think he's he's a
71:43home run hitter right so that's that's why i prefer him um you know over him i do want to say i
71:50did just take travis hunter which uh is not normal for me but in best ball i do like taking travis hunter
71:57i mean i'm getting him at like pick 200 here uh or like pick 190 195 jay like we talk upside i
72:04don't want travis hunter and like managed redraft leagues i really really just don't um but travis hunter is a great great
72:11best ball pick in my opinion uh just because there will be times there will be games where yeah he's not gonna
72:18get he's not gonna be a managed redraft player because you just don't know when to start him but there will be
72:26spike weeks for travis hunter in my opinion um so i'm happy to take him you know at the spot and take
72:33that risk jay uh so that that's why i'm taking him here i mean you're you're practically getting him at like pick
72:40200 and and that's more than worth the gamble for for you know what the upside could be even if a guy
72:47gets injured on that team you know and he has to play more uh you know he becomes a really really more
72:54appealing pick even if even if you're still like yeah i still don't want to draft uh start him in like a
73:01managed redraft um best ball wise he becomes a really good pick so uh i took him there i don't really see
73:08many guys on the board here that i'm just like yeah it's major upside i mean tank dell was available jay i
73:15thought about it really really did um kayshawn boutte was available i thought about him as well but ultimately i just passed
73:22and and and i went with uh i went with my gut on hunter well it's good that you went on hunter
73:29just because hey you gotta have a ticket to ride the ride i when i look at upside though in the rest
73:37of that round for me it is bonerific for somebody like damon claiborne i'm very excited and hyped about him aaron jones
73:44hyping uh claiborne up like hey jameer gibbs like skill set i think it's going to be the claiborne in mason show
73:51and mason is going to run very pure i think mason gets a thousand yard rushing season because of open lanes with
73:58kyler murray but damon claiborne can absolutely be that lightning he's the one pick that i would if it were me in
74:05the shoot but we have to get some diversification in all these drafts and the clay runs you could pick though so
74:12everyone's a good pick the cool thing about your travis hunter pick pete is we do this running back drafting all the
74:19time where it is a damon claiborne or is a tank bixby behind saquon barkley marshawn lloyd behind josh jacobs where we
74:26think okay we get to second factor authentication of there's an injury and now this player hey brian robinson after b john
74:33robinson maybe gets hurt we always think about that level but we don't necessarily think of well what if parker washington gets
74:40hurt or there's concurrent injuries at the receiving position and it's a domino effect of yeah it's just jacoby myers right now
74:48because btj and parker washington are out all of a sudden pete in step somebody like travis hunter yeah yeah no i'm
74:55i'm with you um clayborne was unfortunate because i just didn't see him i was a little upset because i wanted ted
75:02hurst here i was hoping i could get on the turn here ted hurst and pat bryant who i think are really
75:09really nice picks for best ball format um you know you already have jalen waddle dealing with this uh somewhat injury but
75:16if he's if he's back in a few days um i'm not really over overly concerned it could have just been a
75:23dehydration kind of thing um and then ted hurst of course i mean he's he's surrounded by guys that are already kind
75:30of dealing with injuries already jalen mcmillan you have you have chris godden who's dealt with injuries and you also have big
75:37buku just we got rolled up on uh so ted hurst really really nice pick and that's a baker mayfield boner so
75:44i'm not totally surprised in my head i knew there was a chance once i saw him and i was like i
75:52don't know if he's gonna come back to me here um well pat bryant tell us about pat bryant and of course
75:59make your pick don't don't get distracted by the smooth words that i have but man pat bryant i am ecstatic elated
76:06you talk about not getting if you didn't the first draft you did you got courtland sutton and you got him at
76:13great value and we're not talking about walmart even though they're interchangeable with the denver broncos but jalen waddle courtland sutton if
76:20you're not going to get them one of the best picks on the broncos leaving the running backs out of this would
76:27be somebody like pat bryant how excited are you because i think separating the wheat from the chaff or whatever the filtering
76:34out you've got somebody like pat bryant troy franklin and marvin mims give me pat bryant i'm so excited about him and
76:41i'm glad you got that pick so break down your thesis bullish run on somebody like pat bryant yeah uh so broncos
76:48depth chart just came out today uh right now it's listed for the starters is marvin mims actually ahead of troy franklin
76:55uh marvin is the third starter it was not pat bryant it was bryant uh franklin and little jordan humphries as the
77:03the next set of guys the backups uh but pat bryant's been making you know play after play in camp uh it
77:10seems like every single day i'm reading from zach stevens who is a beat reporter for denver um you know that that
77:17pat bryant's making another play has made another big reception and so you know bryant is the guy that on those third
77:24downs you know when it's third and five third and six third and long like bryant's probably going to be out there
77:31a good amount um and troy franklin has became a really big loser since the jalen waddle trade like that that was
77:38that was the biggest loser uh but bryant's just really like a mini courtland sutton in many ways right this is a
77:45guy who is is capable of catching touchdowns and being a big body uh receiver down in the red zone making clutch
77:52catches uh so i think i think he has got a really really nice future in denver and you could see sutton
77:59just not here after next year they might cut him or trade him because pat bryant you know is cheaper and and
78:06going into year three um and sutton you know they could save some money on just moving off of him who's an
78:14aging veteran uh so really really like pat bryant he's moved up my rankings um you know in just overall i have
78:21bryant he was another riser for me uh bryant's right now is is pick 165 um in overall rankings 165 i have
78:28him one spot ahead of jacoby lane and one spot behind ryan florinoy um you know i view a lot of those
78:35guys in that area it's kind of just more best ball picks like jacoby lane's fun we got jacoby lane jay at
78:42like pick 290 two weeks ago which was all that news all the news came out we took him and uh we
78:49took cyrus allen in that draft as well um that was it that one was a really really nice draft and so
78:56i'll have a write-up on that uh later this week we talked about that already but yeah uh some other guys that
79:03go off the board behind uh you know i well i also did take kamani vidal on the turn i thought between
79:10him and mike washington in my head i said you know if genti goes down it's really just mike washington but i
79:18look at kamani vidal jay and i just i continue to to like him over keaton mitchell um keaton mitchell i just
79:25i'm still not there on the hype i do have kamani vidal ranked 183 um i have keaton mitchell ranked at 192
79:32i keep keaton mitchell jay went i'm scrolling up here uh keaton mitchell and i'd love to know what your thoughts are
79:39on him yeah round 10 for keaton mitchell i mean are we are we are we serious i mean i know i
79:46i understand and i heard you know what mcdaniel you know mike mcdaniel said that you know he's gonna ride the hot
79:53hand there's no real three-headed monster in the nfl jay i mean that's just not a real thing teams don't do that
80:00it's not real keaton mitchell also just was not a pass catcher in college he's never been a pass catcher you know
80:07he's never shown that skill set but doll has so it's like people are projecting this role for keaton mitchell and i
80:14just don't really see it if you're thinking hey he might have a couple of big runs big touchdowns that's fine but
80:21round 10 costs for a guy that maybe gives you two three spike weeks at best of like 14 15 points and
80:29if amaran henton goes down jay keaton mitchell is not touching the ball as a as a bell cow it's gonna be
80:36come on even at all so i just i'm kind of lost on the whole keaton mitch keaton mitchell thing and people
80:43get pissed off when i talk about this sometimes i i just i'm just not there on it i just don't really
80:50understand the hype well you're going against their fomo so there's a fear of missing out and the people are going to
80:57click earlier as evidenced by the round 10 pick and then you're going against dopamine hit of they want to steal away
81:04another hn with a mike mcdaniel corollary he's not keaton mitchell is not devon hn and the fomo is it's week three
81:11week four the weather's nice the fall is starting to kick up it's a sunny sunday afternoon those chargers games west coast
81:18about four or five o'clock and he's doing damage on a given week you don't want to be on the other side
81:25of of that and hey why didn't i click keaton mitchell problem is we've never seen longevity from keaton mitchell we don't
81:33see long form volume for him and people are projecting that role on him it's still a degree of wish casting for
81:40keaton mitchell one for one sub in by dal for hampton applies that ancillary role though which will be valuable it is
81:47a cap ceiling keaton mitchell i would almost liken it to like a capped version of rj harvey where rj harvey people
81:54aren't talking about the ceiling that rj harvey could have in that pass catching role but people want it for somebody like
82:01a keaton mitchell they'll buy it and believe it so much where five out of the last six games last year anywhere
82:08from what 17 to 22 points was rj harvey granted he has some issues north south running but people seem to think
82:15there's this uncapped ceiling on keaton mitchell but want to cap it with somebody like rj harvey your thoughts yeah it's a
82:22it's a good it's a good parallel to kind of make there uh and connect the two harvey of course has a
82:29little bit of a of a has more of a role and will have more of a role um and it's behind
82:36a running back who is just not going to catch the football in jk dobbins um i'm trying to let's remove the
82:44big show show big sticker come on get off the screen um where did harvey go because he's been falling okay so
82:51rj goes at 87 keaton mitchell goes two rounds two two rounds two point two almost two and a half a little
82:58less than two and a half rounds after uh rj harvey i mean that's just i i don't know man i mean
83:05you're taking keaton mitchell over rico rico dowdle like yeah in what world in what world are we doing that over kyle
83:12mononga my god over kyle mononga if you if you sat in like round 13 round 14 ish and you said yeah
83:19i'll take keaton over chris rodriguez or eric jones yeah like i don't love keaton mitchell but i'm not gonna fight you
83:26on it and and be like what are we doing like why are we taking keaton mitchell ahead of these guys that's
83:33fine but i mean i just don't know again i don't know what the upside case is for keaton mitchell outside of
83:40a couple of big weeks potentially and you might say well that pays off that doesn't pay for you know if a
83:47guy's a complete zero outside of like maybe two or three weeks is that really paying off i mean what is keaton
83:55mitchell's biggest days for fantasy been in his career and people would be like well mike mcdaniels loves him and he was
84:02stuck behind derrick henry they drafted amara and hampton the first round and kamani vidal was more than capable jeremiah of of
84:09of carrying the workload and catching passes for them last year so i guess i just i don't know i'm i know
84:16we're ranting about this and it's like yeah what are we doing but keaton mitchell most touches in a season was 59
84:23and it was 2025 right he's caught nine one and nine passes in his career and we're just projecting to do what
84:30what are we projecting him to do and that was behind derrick henry who couldn't catch the is not a receiving back
84:37and i get it justice hill was there but like if keaton mitchell can't beat out justice hill in the receiving role
84:44why do we think that keaton mitchell is just going to get this massive role when i want to have to catch
84:51the football and so can kamani vidal that that's exactly it both hampton and vidal can nuke and as the kids say
84:59mog keaton mitchell to where keaton mitchell cannot mog marian hampton and kamani vidal from a duality standpoint where keaton mitchell is
85:06not going to be between the tackles grinder if marian hampton goes down it's not full bell cow status i almost laughed
85:13saying it out loud for keaton mitchell it just isn't going to happen and round 10 price people are wish casting and
85:20baking and sealing there so look i love kamani vidal had 22 targets last year 22 exactly it's a volume issue we're
85:27wish casting in way over projecting volume that isn't there hasn't been evidence either it's an issue going back to your kamani
85:34vidal pick though pete talk about the process and the layer of your running back build right now you have mike washington
85:41jr you don't have and i love this application you do not have ashton janty who i think he went to team
85:48seven or team eight great pick a little bit more of a call your shot teammate goes ashton janty so we see
85:55a little bit of an expense there but he's going to be phenomenal this year but you're going against that team janty
86:02goes down you have mike washington i love getting the play of getting backs who are off the bell cow backs who
86:10you do not roster and do not have so talk to me about how you feel about you don't have a marian
86:17hampton god knows you don't have keith mitchell who went in round 10 you don't have ashton janty but here you've come
86:24away with kamani vidal and mike washington two good core backup running backs who will leverage versus the field in the event
86:31that there's a hampton or janty injury yeah i i i i think it's a big the big thing i like to
86:38look at is really just like what running backs can be transferable to the role that like from the starter for what
86:45they'd be taking over and what i mean by that is like mike washington if janty goes down washington will be has
86:52the potential to be in every down back is he going to be a top 15 back in the nfl no right
86:59is he does he have that ability maybe if he wants the right situation i mean i thought i liked him but
87:06i i don't know um but still size speed you know tools like mike washington can translate to be that guy so
87:13you're getting a potential of getting a three down back a guy that's going to get put into a role with some
87:21volume same thing with kamani vidal that's why i took him um we're kind of at the point where we've we've hit
87:28on a decent amount of running backs here um i did take my kicker defenses are getting a little bit thin but
87:35i did take a defense high um i'm trying to think here i did all the defenses i mean we may have
87:42to just take a defense here um and while you're sorting that out i love that you went for the tampa bay
87:49buccaneers uh for the kicker position jace mclaughlin last year just absolutely kicked the shit out of the ball it was great
87:56i had him um it's weirdly enough i remember this vividly and granted it'll be team points for kicker for the tampa
88:03bay buccaneers so we can rant and rave about how much we love the tampa bay buccaneers this year but i'm in
88:10this 200 dynasty league home league it's fun it's awesome flex but there is a defense and a kicker they they can't
88:17get away from it it's a little bit boomery and my kicker it just the guy i roll with and then i
88:25cut and gain whoever i can off the waiver wire but it was chase mclaughlin and it was just such a great
88:32advantage versus the field you talk about war value of can tucker craft cut into brock bowers well chase mclaughlin on a
88:39given week he can war value cut into some of the elite kickers that are out there in kicking teams so i
88:46like that application and in the event that mclaughlin were to get hurt it's a different kicker you have the baker mayfield
88:53tampa bay led offense so it's plenty of point opportunity sometimes it's as simple as that the play that you make for
89:00your kickers is is this a high octane offensive team the only other time with kickers strategy wise you know you know
89:07very well chris broswell whenever you get a team where it's like hey mike tomlin they're least likely to go for it
89:14on fourth down and they get stall drive so it's like 40 and 50 yard kicks all the time you love to
89:21see it yeah uh by the way on the board here a couple guys stick out to me it's it's it's early
89:28ish i guess yes i i told you how much i just don't care about the adps i'm gonna take keenan allen
89:36um just just off the sheer fact alone that there's he's gonna he's gonna join a team soon jay um and i
89:43look at keenan allen he might not be debo he might not be stefan diggs at this point but keenan allen saw
89:50like what a hundred targets last year maybe a little bit less on this chargers team so he'll find his way somewhere
89:57to get that value i mean and jacoby lane just goes right after him but and and keon coleman goes right before
90:04him i did consider him just off the sheer fact alone of just getting another person on this on this bill's lineup
90:11um but what are your thoughts on keenan allen taking him this late i mean uh do you think he's gonna hang
90:18it up and just call it quits or or do you think we see him sign somewhere in the next uh next
90:25week or two the beauty about free agency is it literally is what the name describes as agency you're free to go
90:32where you want and the beauty is for somebody like keenan allen he doesn't have to play on a crappy team he
90:39can go back to the bears in the event that luther burns injury were more serious he could go print paper there
90:47and go for a championship so i think there's duality where keenan allen is saying i want to win a championship and
90:54i want to go to somewhere where there'd be a good fit the chargers could present an opportunity if there were an
91:01injury basically any kind of injury can pop up and look uh law of large numbers that there's what 14 teams now
91:08that make the playoffs and then maybe a handful of other teams on top you're talking about so many teams that are
91:15that look good who could contend at the very early part of the season to where if there's an injury like look
91:22if the dolphin suffers some injury to malik washington it's not gonna be like oh my god we got to get keenan
91:29allen but if it's the colts and alec pierce doesn't look right and josh downs gets hobbled again now you're sitting there
91:36hey 1-800 keenan allen to the colts and viable so it's a good position a good pick for you preemptive to go
91:43round 23 why not i i like it better than i've seen people before i think you did it before naji harris
91:51where you think he's going to end up on a team it's still probably a good move but keenan allen is is
91:58much better and you need another receiver i like it a lot well thank you i appreciate that that you like the
92:05pick um i yeah i think i think i think colts make a lot of sense i feel like we would have
92:12probably seen it by now but we haven't which been kind of surprising uh but yeah i i i i'm liking the
92:19team more as it's kind of gone on here it's still tilting about that that that one grouping because there's just it
92:26feels like a big drop off in high-end players you know i love jalen cocker i would love to grab him instead
92:33of getting all the awesome guy yeah or boss really the browns receivers one of them yeah the rap the rap of
92:40of players that went off you saw strange you saw ferguson you saw tyler alger you saw kc um you know cocker
92:47boss and it's just a lot of good players that i would have liked to have grabbed that we didn't uh so
92:54that kind of sucked but um do you want to take one quick break uh i see some two questions here from
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96:06note i have 50 seconds to pick but we have dan we have esco watson we have pan pan doa love pan
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96:56can go ahead and do that that would be uh very very much appreciated jeremy bernard jay uh still on the board
97:03here uh not like a guy that i'm in love with but i'm going to take jeremy bernard and that probably settles
97:10me down a little bit on taking wide receivers i took keenan allen tory horton and jeremy bernard as my last three
97:17picks love love the tory horton pick i'm curious what your thoughts are there's a real possibility jay that he can be
97:24wide receiver two on this team um you know it's cooper cup it's jsn of course is number one and then it's
97:32really who else is at the jsn right maybe a royal right villain they're saying maybe it's like a tweener but tory
97:39horton feels like a really nice pick this late uh and and just another type of guy that i'm just trying to
97:46take shots on yeah especially here in round 24 i love tory horton and everything you're saying i've drafted tory horton and
97:53i've drafted as if cooper cup really doesn't exist anymore as a viable fantasy football option and it's when you can do
98:00certain things like that it helps you push through those fear barriers and you get to a guy like a tory horton
98:07and if you think in the most positive outcome you know upside wins championships and i think scott barrett has coined that
98:14phrase plenty and it's very true at certain points you know i know earlier callback we were frustrated with the kyle mononga
98:21i pick but as we layer down in this draft somebody like a tory horton a trey harris these are picks that
98:28get us really excited because you see the contingent upside that's out there so i love what you're saying about tory horton
98:35it may end up being elijah arroyo aj barner as the number two target but we saw what tory horton did last
98:43year he was becoming pete one of those discovery fee finders fee types of players where you could not pry him off
98:50people's dead hands because of how he was elevating prior to his injury he was very close he was like maybe one
98:57or two more games of showing out hitting in the end zone where people were like no i'm not selling him for
99:04anything because i got you know a greg lombard rookie card and i know it's going to be valuable right so yeah
99:11i like those picks i like the direction that you're going in i think we had a keeper question pete we do
99:18we do i do want to i still want to get more likes on the show guys that we have 14 15
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99:32have not done it already uh we'll answer dan's question first and then we'll get to esco's keeper question uh dan said
99:39uh which lineup is better kyler bijon bucky nico neighbors craft lad or kyler bijon bucky nico lad bowers marv so the
99:46real big difference here you know quarterback bijon bucky none of that changed it's really nico lad bowers marv or bucky nico
99:54neighbors craft lad um so nico's on both teams it's really okay so it's neighbors craft versus bowers marv this is kind
100:01of what we talked about before yeah this is that guy's trade that he was trying to analyze yeah yeah so he's
100:08trying to understand whatever side has the neighbors and and craft situation is where i'm aligned yeah me too me too and
100:15we spent a decent amount of time on that so we'll move on um esco said better value keep walker at round
100:22six or drake may at round 14 um i'm still gonna go with uh with walker round six uh may round 14
100:29of course jay is like a free pick here it's only the only caveat though is if this is super flex in
100:36no hesitation yeah yeah of course it's drake may because i i can't remember i don't think it was round 14 where
100:43he would have been drafted last year but people play you never know what happens right pete yeah but if it's single
100:50quarterback it's absolutely walker and for utility of answering the question if it's a super flex set and forget uh drake may
100:58but i lean with if it's just one quarterback yeah it's absolutely walker round six walker goes at the one two turn
101:05in single quarterback formats drake may it's a couple rounds later it it wouldn't really matter even that that difference for kenneth
101:12walker the chiefs have the most uh vacated targets uh at the the running back position they're just in great shape i
101:19love the the chiefs for next year the running game the offense we talked about travis kelsey pete we love some travis
101:26kelsey we'll get him next team we have him uh but yeah give me ken walker as the keeper as you're coming
101:33up in round 26 pete mary de marcato goes what position are you thinking you'll attack here and how do you think
101:40the last as you're winding down any pieces where you're like hey i want another defense i want another kicker i need
101:47well yeah kickers so kickers and defenses are gone um so we have we do have two defenses we have uh seattle
101:54and we have arizona we only have one kicker so um we ended up getting the box kicker which it is what
102:01it is you're you're talking about there could be a week where maybe we draft another kicker and on the buy you
102:09know we're we're missing out on a five point performance right if we miss out on five points five points yeah that
102:16sucks that would be shitty if we missed out on the thirty thousand dollars because we didn't draft the kicker and you
102:23know we missed out on five points on a bye we totally totally get that but um it's gonna be what it's
102:30gonna be man uh i mean i think the team has a lot of upside i'm fine with how things have kind
102:37of shaken out so far um let's get to uh pen pen panda love yeah you asked you read that question off
102:44and then let me sure you got it and you focus over there uh 10 man dynasty not super flex so that's
102:51not to be confused with one quarterback i guess so it's not super flex they have drake may blake quorum and tyler
102:58warren do you trade for jonathan taylor jordan love and tucker craft i see so may quorum warren not super flex jt
103:05love craft so i'm looking at jt clears over blake quorum tyler warren i like a little more than tucker craft they're
103:12close enough what do you think pete i think you you go for the value of somebody like jonathan taylor and and
103:20jordan love over because jonathan taylor really clears somebody like blake quorum and i can see war value somebody like jordan love
103:27people don't like to think of it i think he can cut into drake may a little bit more than people think
103:34this year even if there's a little bit of regression i love the aj brown connection in one quarterback league and you're
103:41getting the tucker craft love stack i like the taylor love craft side what do you think pete um yeah so i
103:48mean looking here right you have like you said it's not super flex the fact that it's not super flex makes this
103:55more interesting but i still prefer drake may uh decently over over love um so i look at it that way i
104:02mean jt over quorum by a mile and then it's pretty close between obviously warren and tucker craft so the real big
104:09difference here is is that the leap from points per game from love to drake may enough to say i'm good with
104:16you know tearing down to love because you're getting late quorum off your team and getting jonathan taylor i would take jonathan
104:24taylor side as well um it hurts because obviously drake may is phenomenal and tyler warren i think also has you know
104:31tight end one upside but you get the stack with craft and love which really is i don't care about stacking and
104:38manage leagues as much um but overall yeah i guess i would still go with the craft i'd go with the jt
104:45side if you're in a win now situation now if you're telling me this is a team that's not competing then i
104:52would prefer drake may uh side with blake quorum and tyler warren just because you know you're resetting it at the quarterback
104:59with age with drake may getting pretty young there quorum is young too he he has upside he's not a zero um
105:06and then tyler one i just feel like you need a better running back though than blake quorum in this kind of
105:13deal if you're giving up jt tucker craft side but i understand it so then we have a comment uh i've never
105:20seen anyone win one of these with only one d or one kicker i guess if you could give us clarification is
105:27that a team that had one defense but maybe multiple kickers didn't win team that had multiple defenses and only one kicker
105:35or is this solely one d and one kicker um it sounds like either of those positions you need to have at
105:42least two of each is i think the point that's being made track hat does not like my team okay doesn't like
105:49my team man that's he that's he said stacking smacking before and now he's hating and now he's hating on the uh
105:56the fact that i missed out on getting a second kicker um he needs to ask us or tell us sorry what
106:03do you think of ollie gordon what do you think uh strat cat of ollie gordon in round 27 i'm trying to
106:10think i saw jalen wright go i think in round 19 that is insane value if you think that ollie gordon is
106:17not even just the direct handcuff to devon hm but maybe i know mcdaniel is gone but a little bit of that
106:24yesteryear of raheem most are touchdown between the gaps grinder roll i just think ollie gordon is a superior back to jalen
106:31wright yeah i mean a doke uh walker award winner in ollie gordon who before coming out of college the that was
106:38the year before um his senior season and he had a bad year and then fell on the draft but looked really
106:46really good in the nfl when he's had opportunities so far and i don't really understand the i mean we're getting an
106:53eight round discount from jalen warren jalen wright to ollie gordon who like you said we talked about it like ollie gordon
107:00is the direct handcuff and will touch the ball more than jalen wright will unless jalen wright just became a just flat
107:07out much better player this off season which is remain to be seen but we have seen good play out of ollie
107:14gordon um you know we haven't seen that nearly as much you know with jalen wright and strat cat said shrunk yeah
107:21look we're not we're not saying we're not getting a home run hitter here or you know uh a a player that's
107:28gonna win us our league but when we just think of how do we get value this late in the draft with
107:35running backs we're trying to marry and and pattern match like who's going to slide into that role of the starter and
107:42it's it's ollie and i think he gets majority of those touches so that's kind of my thought process there um i'm
107:50looking at tight end here because um i did take i don't know if you saw but i did take eli raritan
107:57and i was curious to see what your thoughts were um there has been some talk uh that eli raritan has actually
108:04been playing over hunter henry and some uh in some of these practices so far so i was curious to see what
108:11your thoughts are on him well you don't rule out the fact that the new england patriots could go with 12 personnel
108:18it could be hunter henry and eli raritan then we're talking about we've talked in prior shows either on here on these
108:25streams or on our other player profiler shows pete where it would be in two wide receiver sets it'd be aj brown
108:32and romeo dobbs and then everybody else's sol on the wide receiver depth chart as far as who's going to be fantasy
108:39viable right so we like to think of these bunch formations for so many other teams i don't think that's been talked
108:46about enough for the new england patriots where people think well raritan is shielded behind directly hunter henry doesn't necessarily have to
108:53be that way we did see hunter henry just got some compensation i think what is a two-year deal nothing groundbreaking but
109:01the patriots love hunter henry but they really like what's going on with eli raritan so i think that's a good layered
109:08pick for you and then one more time going back to the ollie gordon thing you don't have to want a chan
109:15so this is just another back that you have that you're stacking in your favor for when we do law of large
109:22numbers and there's attrition at the running back position which there hasn't been in the last few years you're bound to have
109:29some injuries and it hurts you hate to say it but you'll end up what's going to happen pete is everybody's just
109:36going to be running to all different apps and all different teams that they have to check out those handcuffed backs that
109:43they have and it's like oh yeah i got blake quorum oh yeah i have mike washington so ollie gordon is is
109:50one of those players added to the list and i see you go malik benson we talked about him earlier pete great
109:57stack nasty work round 29 to go and get a stack with fernando mendoza that's just chef's kiss he's been running with
110:04the ones we hear about it granted you hear a lot of things in training camp so it could be smoke but
110:12again round 29 you love to see it yeah we i figured you'd be excited to see that i had to take
110:19him since i know he's your guy and you know we're just looking for guys with pulses at this point and with
110:26him um you know it's uh it's one of those things where he's competing i guess in the three wide receiver sets
110:33so i i'm just gonna go go with him and and just kind of live with it um i know uh stratt
110:40said i followed dwayne and paulson and they are both on right as the handcuff and i think it happened yeah i
110:47just think right is jalen right was just a exciting pick or uh a player that people really liked in general and
110:54so they're holding out hope that you know the talent and they really like the talent and they're just holding out hope
111:01but i don't know i haven't really heard any buzz around jalen right looking good in camp or doing anything and i
111:08do know that ollie gordon has looked good in camp um again not a superstar ollie gordon no one's saying that but
111:16um i just there's nothing unless i'm missing a report um or you know just missed out on seeing talk about jalen
111:23right um i'm not i'm not totally sure uh he says i'm holding a hope that a chain stays healthy yeah yeah
111:30thank you that that's and buried in all this is like my god just whatever you do god turn off injuries on
111:37madden for devon hn with jalen right my problem my problem with jalen right is the fact that he doesn't seem to
111:44create his own yards he doesn't overcome some situations granted things can be bad for running backs we've seen it occur it
111:51was a dick ass situation last year for ash and janty very tough to have success um but jalen right just doesn't
111:58inspire me from what i see from just the eye test and i remember rookie year just being so hyped all the
112:05speed that was there because from the combine on jalen right looked like a really good pick and we really bought into
112:12that we've been burned but i sit there and i always try to adjust my priors because we got burned on ollie
112:19gordon last year if you recall pete right in about two weeks from now is when ollie gordon was really taken off
112:27remember devon a chance speaking of injuries he had some kind of a calf soreness and there was a huge worry out
112:34there in the hottest name the last couple weeks was ollie gordon now granted things have changed shifted totally but we haven't
112:41seen the ceiling uh i know in the comments they mentioned the 2.8 yards strat cat the 2.8 yards per carry is
112:48tough for ollie gordon so we're hoping we can be one of us can be right i'm looking i'm looking at it
112:55now and and so it looks like in the initial depth chart that uh it looks like right uh was listed as
113:02the rb2 and gordon rb3 um i i am reading here from uh joe shad who said uh you're jalen right as
113:09a slight edge over ollie gordon for the backup spot he said he's faster than gordon he looks really fast right now
113:16and uh right seems to have rejuvenated perspective with a new coaching staff so like i said unless jalen right just comes
113:23back and it's just really good and just got better in the off season i can see it but sometimes with these
113:31camp reports it's really hard um this feels more like vibes and and feel from a a beat reporter than it does
113:38just like straight up analysis of like hey this is this is what my feel is but i could be wrong i
113:45don't know i mean he is listed ahead in the depth chart initially but when the games start and the preseason starts
113:52i think you'll start to see that kind of sift itself out a little bit more and ali gordon might just be
113:59a better game day player than jalen right who might be better in pads where they're not taking guys to the ground
114:06um and he's more of a speedster and so he can kind of shine more in those settings who knows we'll see
114:13um but last pick is coming up jay you know i i was like looking at the board and i was like
114:20there's no way jj mccarthy is going to come back to us right and he he didn't he he went last round
114:27like the second to last pick which is fine um but i'm just looking here tyson you know bajin's kind of interesting
114:34if we want to take a backup quarterback um he's he's the clear-cut guy behind caleb williams um some running backs here
114:42i'll share the tab so the listeners and you can see it as well some running backs is a davis chris books
114:49uh naji devon neal kareem hunt and it's just not really much here alder guesstimate i think is going to be the
114:56rb3 by the way um wide receivers not much i mean trail on burks yeah a trail on burks i have him
115:03in my top 200 i guess i'm a little surprised he's there but i i understand because digs is there now but
115:10i don't know what do you think about burks in round 30 i don't see why you wouldn't press a button on
115:17somebody he has a pulse you're in a viable offense you're tied to jayden daniels and you already have some terry mclaurin
115:24so why not get some more share of war jot we're like joshua palmer you have so many bills man you have
115:31so many bills uh did i get it did i get it oh i don't know yeah i got him i got
115:38him all right trail on burks man we got him you you would have had so much share of the buffalo bills
115:45that i think it was even that far deep it's a little minus evie strat cat said uh great draft guys thanks
115:53for supporting nfc hope to see you guys both in a few more yeah hopefully we see you maybe in one of
116:00our drafts as well um but that this is really kind of wrapping it up jay um let's talk about our team
116:07really quick and then uh let's talk about maybe anything else you got in your mind and then we'll get out of
116:14here um all right let's go to the roster here hold on all right so quarterback wise jay josh allen jackson dart
116:21fernando mendoza we talked about i don't typically take quarterbacks super high but in a format and a tournament like this i
116:28don't mind having some exposure to josh allen if i'm trying to really really win uh you know not just win i'm
116:35not i'm not doing this to win the 800 that i get to win the league jay right i'm looking at all
116:42you know win it all right james cook so i get the stack with alan there trevin henderson jonathan brooks common on
116:49guy kamani vidal mike washington ollie gordon yeah fine with all three of these running backs as the backups i'm fine with
116:57my starters you know there's some boom there's some upside and you know jonathan brooks trevin henderson you know these guys will
117:04kind of piggyback and see saw even monongai between you know my rb2 slot you know depending on who scores highest um
117:11so that's fine malik neighbors to go with dart dj more to go with um josh allen terry mckay lemon trey harris
117:18galen nailer getting the stack there with the raiders uh travis hunter pap riant uh keenan allen troy tori horton uh jeremy
117:25bernard marvin mims malik benson trail on burks um i took the most wide receivers out of everybody i took three more
117:32than most so maybe i'm the fish here in this draft a little bit jay but it's probably because some guys took
117:39five quarterbacks a couple guys took five i took three i'm totally fine with that um and then a lot of it
117:46also comes down to some of these kickers right i mean i don't know i mean we're we've done a couple of
117:53these this this team took six tight ends durham smite tommy tremble drew sample at the end i guess maybe does he
118:00have joe burrow and maybe he doesn't i don't know what the thought process is there but then taking four kickers and
118:08then four defenses i don't know another team did five tight ends four kickers four defenses um me and one other guy
118:15the only two that only has one kicker uh but i'll stack to skill players i'm fine with it uh so interesting
118:22uh strategy to see a lot of these teams taking this many kickers and defenses yeah it might even push us we
118:29can re-examine to next week when i'm clicking the buttons if we should go with a second kicker team if we should
118:36go with three defenses and and try and be a little more aggressive we can mix it up but going back to
118:43the theme of your draft you got a lot of bill stat carry share when you quote unquote not reach but you
118:50pay up for somebody like a josh allen you diversify the build of the amount of bills that you have so great
118:57job there and then malik neighbors until he gets clicked in round one you're getting a free round one player in in
119:04round two granted he's been in round four round three other people will have round advantage on your round two malik neighbors
119:11pick but the ripple effect of do you have james cook malik neighbors josh allen dj moore as a start how unique
119:19is that so there's ripple effects where even though other people have a later round player who jumps up you still have
119:26to get the ripple effect right the rest of the board so i like what you did probably going back the one
119:33crux would be somebody like kyle monongai and travis kelsey where you prefer kelsey but you know what it's wild the amount
119:40of times where you expect and think it's going to be jonathan brooks who pushes you through and then it's all on
119:47the line and kyle monongai is just crushing the way fantasy football is it's sometimes the players you least expect you could
119:54be right about so many takes and then the player who you feel least about and you're kind of wrong on ends
120:01up being a guy like kyle monong guy so it's a fun game that we play it's a fun draft and i
120:08feel like we learn lessons along the way to where we're just going to keep getting sharper and sharper pete yeah absolutely
120:15and uh yeah just want to say you know thanks to everybody thanks to the nfc nffc for uh sponsoring today's draft
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