The FF Dynasty - 10+ Moves To Make Now! RISERS Skyrocketing Up The Dynasty Market - 2026 Dynasty Fantasy Football
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1 hr 6 min
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Oct 15, 2026
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Thu, October 15, 2026
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Denzel BostonChristian WatsonDeVonta SmithJalen CokerJameson WilliamsJaylen WarrenMichael WilsonBrenton StrangeBrian Thomas Jr.Dallas GoedertDe'Von AchaneJadarian PriceJake FergusonKenneth Walker III
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Brenton Strange
PositiveUsage63:51
Brenton Strange has shown solid production over the last few weeks and is seeing increased involvement, making him a player to monitor at age 25.
Insight pageBrian Thomas Jr.
NegativeBust36:31
Brian Thomas Jr. is identified as a significant faller in dynasty rankings. Despite a strong rookie season, his recent lack of production has led the source to suggest swapping him for Jalen Coker in dynasty formats.
Insight pageChristian Watson
PositiveProjection20:03
Christian Watson is currently WR3 on the season, benefiting from a high-volume role in the Packers' offense with 474 yards (5th overall), 37 targets, and a 60% team TD share. While previously viewed as volatile, he is now healthy and serving as a primary field stretcher and red-zone threat. The source ranks him at WR18, noting he could be a dominant asset for 3-4 years if he avoids injury.
Insight pagePositiveUsage33:38
Christian Watson is currently the WR3 on the season, benefiting from his role in the Packers' offense. He has recorded 474 yards (5th overall) on 37 targets and 26 receptions.
Insight pageDallas Goedert
NegativeValue65:01
The source suggests pivoting away from Dallas Goedert, noting his age (32) compared to younger, more productive options like Pat Freiermuth.
Insight pageDe'Von Achane
NegativeValue44:04
Despite being injured and falling behind Kenneth Walker in some rankings, the source remains a holder of De'Von Achane and views selling him low as disrespectful.
Insight pageDenzel Boston
PositiveBreakout30:05
Denzel Boston is a significant riser, currently ranked WR23, due to his elite 17.2 aDOT and consistent production (29 targets, 330 yards, 3 TDs). He is viewed as a potential future alpha receiver if he continues to receive decent quarterback play, placing him ahead of established veterans like T. Higgins and Jalen Waddle in long-term dynasty rankings.
Insight pagePositiveValue58:11
The source is highly bullish on Denzel Boston and suggests using Jalen Warren and other pieces to acquire him, viewing him as a long-term asset despite some market skepticism.
Insight pagePositiveValue59:35
The source remains high on Denzel Boston despite a recent injury, suggesting he is a buy-low target for dynasty managers.
Insight pageDeVonta Smith
NegativeValue18:37
Devonta Smith has been moved down to WR19 in the source's rankings, falling behind Parker Washington due to the latter's recent performance and offensive situation.
Insight pageNegativeValue25:50
Devonta Smith remains a high-talent receiver ranked at WR19, though his value is currently impacted by the Eagles' offensive struggles and injuries. The source views him as a benchmark for evaluating other rising receivers like Christian Watson and Matthew Golden.
Insight pageJadarian Price
NegativeValue51:15
Jadarian Price is viewed as a talented, explosive player, but he has been unstartable due to limited opportunities and ball security issues. The source prefers him in a vacuum over Tank Bigsby but acknowledges the negative market sentiment surrounding him.
Insight pageJake Ferguson
NegativeProjection65:11
The source expresses disappointment in Jake Ferguson's production this season, stating they have seen more value from Pat Freiermuth.
Insight pageJalen Coker
PositiveValue36:03
Jalen Coker is a rising asset who has earned trust through recent production. The source prefers him over Brian Thomas Jr. and Omar Cooper, noting that while he is in an ambiguous spot, his on-field performance makes him a safer bet than unproven or underperforming assets.
Insight pageNegativeValue40:10
Jalen Coker's value has stalled due to injury and a bye week, but the source notes he is close to Michael Wilson in dynasty rankings and expects to see how their usage plays out upon his return.
Insight pageJameson Williams
NegativeValue38:40
Jameson Williams is viewed as a superior talent to Jalen Coker due to his speed and big-play ability, though they are ranked closely in fantasy. While he faces target competition from LaPorta and St. Brown, his recent two-touchdown performance reinforces his status as a high-upside asset.
Insight pageNegativeRole39:41
The source notes that Sam LaPorta returning to his previous high level of play hurts Jameson Williams' fantasy outlook, though he remains a preferred option over other depth pieces.
Insight pageJaylen Warren
PositiveUsage54:02
Jalen Warren has been an elite producer recently, looking like a starting-caliber back with great vision and passing game involvement. The source is not concerned about Rico Dowdle's return, expecting Warren to maintain a significant workload.
Insight pageNegativeValue59:43
The source suggests pivoting off of Jaylen Warren in dynasty leagues, implying he is a sell candidate.
Insight pageKenneth Walker III
PositiveProjection43:26
Kenneth Walker has risen to the source's dynasty RB5 ranking. The source notes it is difficult to push him higher, but he is clearly ahead of De'Von Achane and has seen a significant uptick in value compared to preseason expectations.
Insight pageLadd McConkey
NegativeBust31:49
Ladd McConkey is viewed as a sell candidate. After a promising rookie year, he has struggled to stay on the field, and the Chargers' offensive situation is currently volatile and unpredictable.
Insight pageMarvin Harrison Jr.
PositiveValue3:22
The trade to Houston is a net positive for Marvin Harrison Jr., reuniting him with college quarterback CJ Stroud. While he still struggles with separation and catch-point strength, the change of scenery should boost his dynasty value. The source suggests selling if he hits a peak in target share and fantasy production later this season, as the long-term outlook remains muddied.
Insight pageMatthew Golden
PositiveBreakout20:03
Matthew Golden is a major riser, currently WR22, and is a priority target for rebuilding teams due to his age (23) and high volume. He commands a 22% target share and 37% of team air yards. While his TD production lags behind Watson, his consistent usage makes him a potential long-term cornerstone.
Insight pageMichael Wilson
PositiveValue39:53
The source is a firm believer in Michael Wilson, doubling down on his offseason acquisition strategy. Despite Marvin Harrison Jr.'s departure, the source does not see a massive value vault but views Wilson as a solid WR2 with WR1 upside due to predictable volume and favorable game scripts in Arizona.
Insight pageNegativeUsage39:56
Michael Wilson's role is not expected to change significantly following the trade of Marvin Harrison Jr. The source suggests he remains a standard fantasy producer without a major value increase.
Insight pageNico Collins
PositiveValue6:42
Nico Collins remains a stud and a cornerstone asset. The source advises buying shares if league mates panic following the Marvin Harrison Jr. trade, as Collins is still the primary receiver in the Houston offense.
Insight pageParker Washington
PositiveBreakout17:26
Parker Washington has surged in rankings to WR16 (or WR15), ahead of Devonta Smith and all rookie wide receivers. He is the clear WR1 in a high-powered Jacksonville offense and is expected to earn a significant payday. The source recommends sending offers for him now, as he is a cornerstone asset.
Insight pagePat Freiermuth
PositiveValue64:08
Pat Freiermuth is experiencing a career revival and is being under-discussed. At 27 years old, he is a consistent double-digit fantasy finisher in tight end premium leagues and is preferred over older veterans like Dallas Goedert or underperforming options like Jake Ferguson.
Insight pageTank Bigsby
NegativeUsage46:46
Tank Bigsby has emerged as the clear front-runner in the Jacksonville backfield, but the source remains skeptical of his long-term upside, citing limited passing game involvement and potential future competition.
Insight pageZach Charbonnet
PositiveValue59:55
The source strongly recommends buying Zach Charbonnet, noting he is in a contract year, has long-term goal-line potential, and is a superior player to Kenneth Walker and Blake Corum. The source ranks him at RB27 and would comfortably trade a second and third-round pick for him.
Insight pageZay Flowers
PositiveProjection24:36
Zay Flowers is ranked at WR13, ahead of Parker Washington. The source notes he has been super efficient and remains a high-priority asset.
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Episode Transcript
0:00What is good? We're back. I got Stan. We had a little Seahawks Niners rivalry.
0:04Niners take game one, but Seahawks were I think the better team yesterday.
0:08So I, you know, just did have to flex on with a little Niners gear, but I see you came with a championship hat.
0:15So fun way to start the show is a great Fox game of the week.
0:20So, you know, big, big for the San Fran to get out there three and oh in the division, but Seahawks are
0:26a formidable foe and And I think we're the we're the right side yesterday.
0:30Hey, Casey, we are so good. We sometimes just try to beat ourselves, you know, like that that we recognize that we
0:37are our own worst enemy and we come out there we turn the ball over left and right.
0:42We're fumbling in our own end zone. We're fumbling on wide open touchdown plays when George Helani is out in the flat
0:48ready to start taking it towards the goal line there and butterfingers.
0:52So, you know, it was a it was quite the game.
0:55You know, Like you said, uh, respect out there to the Niners, you know, they ended up stealing one away from us
1:01at home, but we got a long season ahead.
1:04You're right. I had to throw the bowl hat on just to remind everybody we were celebrating in your locker room.
1:10A few months back you could have, you know, it's all good, man.
1:14It's a fun start to the season here and let's dive into some fantasy football talk.
1:19Hey, yeah. So today we're going to jump into some sort of risers and fallers.
1:23We've been doing a big rankings revamp and, you know, still doing so much monkey and around toying around with, with the
1:30rankings, you know, as you start to do this process, um, as you've gotten some, some updated information on what, what's what.
1:36Um, so we're going to kind of take you through some of that, some of these risers and kind of talk about,
1:42you know, who they're around and, and sort of their market value and what our thoughts are on those risers.
1:48Maybe a little contender by or rebuilding by thoughts aside on, on some of that stuff.
1:53So fun, full fledged show for you today. Let's jump into it.
1:56And I think we're going to start with the risers and we'll have the fallers on the back half.
2:02Jason will probably break this into two, but I think we have to start with the Marv trade, right?
2:08Obviously I think that's, you know, obligation to say that, that that's probably at least a little bit of a riser for Marv.
2:14So we fit it into this segment, right? So generally what's your position on Marv getting traded to Houston and what it does for him and his value?
2:22Yeah. I mean, it can only help it, right?
2:25We're at a point with Marvin Harrison jr. Where him and Brian Thomas jr.
2:29I was saying we're on the, uh, who can take their dynasty stock?
2:332026. The fastest, you know, they're just on a freight train to hell.
2:37Um, but you know, he gets to reunite with his college quarterback, right?
2:41Him and CJ Stroud, maybe find some chemistry, pull on the good times.
2:44Want to keep them rolling. Um, outside of obviously Nico Collins there too.
2:48I don't think Kayshawn Booty has been, you know, any what exciting to them after that.
2:53I know they had high prospects. Jalen Knowles actually not looked bad at all in recent weeks.
2:58And I think he'll still have a role to play as any, you know, player does on a, on a successful offense.
3:04I mean, you know, I'm a Seahawks fan over here, but Cooper cup didn't do anything for you fantasy wise last year,
3:11but he mattered absolutely down the playoff stretch. So Jalen Knowles, probably a effective real life player.
3:16Don't know if that's going to translate to a lot of fantasy production, but Marvin Harrison jr.
3:21You know, he needed to change his scenery. He needed something to, to spice up his dynasty value to get people to believe again.
3:28I think this is the thing. Now, one thing I will say, Casey, what doesn't change about Marvin Harrison jr.
3:34By switching teams is his inability to separate some of the issues we've seen at the catch point there.
3:39And you know, a little bit of the, the strength argument, what he's going to do at the NFL level.
3:45Love to see him reuniting with what works so well for him in college.
3:49We hope that that changes scenery results in maybe, you know, a shadow of the prospect that was promised to us back in the day.
3:56But I think where we are today is it's only good things from our, I am seeing tentative though, right?
4:02Like Nico Collins is still the guy here. And my immediate takeaway, sorry to Bogart, the mic right at the gate here.
4:09But my immediate takeaway is if there is anyone in any of your leagues that are suddenly looking at this and being
4:15like, Oh, Nico Collins just took a value dip.
4:18That's what I'm swooping up. That's my immediate takeaway here.
4:21I'm far more interested in getting myself more shares in Nico Collins than I am in buying up a ton of ours today.
4:27But how do you feel about it? Yeah, no, I love, I love, I love that angle.
4:32I think generally people, you know, as far as the dynasty community goes, as soon as anybody's over a certain age apex
4:39or, you know, and then has some injury, you know, got to get rid of them.
4:44And it's like, well, you know, it's all contextualized.
4:46And if you're a good team, I mean, Nico is just a stud.
4:50We've talked about it multiple weeks of buying Nico.
4:53So I like that. I think again, like you said, going back to your like college teammate has got to be a positive, a net positive.
5:00And it also kind of tells me that CJ Stroud has pull in that locker room, right?
5:05So CJ probably going to be a Houston Texan next year, right?
5:09Yeah. With just kind of the, you know, that I think that's a nudge, nudge, wink, wink.
5:14Hey, yeah, go get him. I'll, I'll make it look like the old Marv.
5:18Watch this. Um, totally. So I do think that there will be a season, um, a point in the season where Marv
5:24has a nice target share and has is putting up wide receiver to fantasy points.
5:29For me, that might be the point where I get out.
5:32You know, I think there, there could be a bump now and we'll look at a few trades, but, um, what I
5:38do worry about is going into the next year, being in a similar situation that you were in Arizona.
5:44Jaden Higgins comes back who I loved coming into this season, got hurt in the off season.
5:49So he's, he's by the time a year comes back around, he'll be, we won't even be in the season and he'll
5:55be a year away from his injury, which is typically a solid timeline to get back to kind of where you've been.
6:02Um, now this is, that was a lot of speculation for Higgins, but I feel like that might be, Hey, I'm, I'm,
6:08if, if I get a nice run out with bar by the end of the season, I think they have two more weeks until they're by.
6:16Um, I think they play Jacksonville and the giants maybe.
6:19And then a bi-week, um, if, if after that bi-week Marv comes out and starts getting a good target share and, and
6:25I don't have any doubt that he will. And I think getting that target share will just elevate his dynasty value.
6:31I think things fell apart in Arizona. I think the effort thing was certainly there.
6:36He definitely didn't want to be there anymore. I'm sure he felt a certain type of way.
6:41Um, I think you're going to come out of there and there's going to be, there's going to be a point in
6:47time where people say publicly, well, where's this Marv been?
6:50And that's the time where you probably would want to get out of Marv because I do think this might be a
6:56bit of a muddied situation kind of moving into next year.
7:00And look, I think CJ Stroud, if CJ Stroud is going to be this CJ Stroud could, you know, lift up three fantasy assets.
7:07But I mean, we've, we've done that with the bears this year.
7:10And how has that gone so far through X amount of weeks?
7:14You know, obviously Caleb has been missing, uh, for some of that.
7:17And, and one of the games was a rainstorm, but still like we go in there thinking that they can carry these multiple assets.
7:24And, and a lot of the times it's, it's more than, um, than you can, you know, kind of rise to the,
7:31you know, what, what's the word it's a bit off more than you can chew with trying to say, Hey, we can
7:37keep these three assets at a, at a really high end level.
7:41So that's kind of my takeaway with it. I do think there'll be a resurgence.
7:45Um, but, and, and I, I don't mind the trade.
7:48It was a bit of a head scratcher for me for kind of moving into next season, unless they know something about
7:54Higgins that, that we don't have, you know, it was worse than we thought or something along those lines.
8:00But in a football realm, you know, it's, it's probably a good move for Houston just to, Hey, let's surround them with as much as we can.
8:08Um, and in our fantasy lens though, I think, I think, I think, that would get awfully muddy here moving forward.
8:14Yeah. I'll be curious to see if the targets really follow and how the volume looks.
8:19I mean, what, what is interesting about Houston right now?
8:22We're not going to make this the Houston show, but love what you said about the indicators for CJ Stroud resigning.
8:28That looks good. What is interesting is like, okay, you mentioned the Higgins piece.
8:32What about the running back room? Like David Montgomery hasn't looked to do anything.
8:36Are they going to roll with Woody Marks long-term?
8:38Are this, is this team just looking themselves in the mirror and saying, maybe our defense isn't as good as we thought it was.
8:46We're going to have to air the ball out left in right.
8:49And we have no run game. Like let's just keep adding pass catchers.
8:53I mean, I don't know exactly how this is going to shake out for fantasy, but boy, I'll be there with a
8:59big bowl of popcorn ready to watch. Yeah. Um, just looking at some trades that just went down today for Marv and or yesterday, right?
9:07Um, Marv Harrison for Matthew golden. Like that can't even be a real trade.
9:11It's in our database. So I'm, I'm looking at it, but if, if a positive news strikes that way, and maybe somebody
9:17doesn't believe in golden and they believe in Harrison, I guess I could see that, but that's ridiculous.
9:22If you could do that, you absolutely get off of Marv for, for golden.
9:26Yeah. Oh, every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
9:30I mean, uh, golden is, uh, looking like the real deal here.
9:33Yeah. Decent amount of 27 seconds for Marv. How do you, how do you fare there?
9:38Um, I'll probably honestly hold Marv at the second price range.
9:41I think it's like, if I'm getting out on Marv, I want my first back.
9:46Right. Or equivalent value or someone that pushes me over the line.
9:49Like if I'm an immediate contender, fine. I'll, I'll go Marv in a fourth for Jalen Warren at a future second or
9:55something, you know, give me, give me something that I can sink my teeth into.
10:00Yeah. Here, here's Marv in a 27 second for Christian Watson.
10:03Right. Um, love that for the Watson side. Yeah.
10:06I think, I think that's, that's a good trade.
10:08Um, Marv for pits, tight end premium, um, Marv for DJ more one quarterback, 12 team.
10:13This one's, you know, kind of more of the same 27 seconds.
10:17So that seems to be about where I would put the value at.
10:20And I'm with you stay. And I would hold for just a regular old 27 second for me, for me.
10:26Um, cause I do think there will be an uptick at, at some point.
10:30So, um, anything else on Marv you want to hit before we move on to the rest of some risers here?
10:36No, let's talk. Let's talk some other wide receiver risers, huh?
10:40Yeah. All right. So, I mean, some of these guys we have covered throughout because, you know, if you're a riser, you've
10:46obviously been somebody who's been putting something good on wax, as they say, Parker Washington, um, comes through again this week has another solid performance.
10:53So gotta be a big riser right now. And we're talking rankings a bit here.
10:58So I've kind of shifted him all the way up like pretty, I mean, obviously it's, it's a, it's a pretty length.
11:04Uh, come up and here for, um, Parker Washington.
11:07What, what would you say about like Parker Washington right now?
11:10Is he, is he over somebody like Devonta Smith?
11:13Oh, I mean, this is a brutal one. I have Parker Washington above Devonta Smith.
11:17I updated the rankings this morning. I was feeling a little frisky with it.
11:21Wanted to, wanted to really, you know, crush it right out of the gate this week and get some of these things set on paper.
11:29I've got Devonta Smith down at wide receiver 19.
11:31Like him a lot. I got Parker Washington all the way up at wide receiver 16.
11:36So maybe reactionary, but I, what are we seeing out of this guy that we don't like at this point?
11:42High powered offense, Liam Cohen system trust with Trevor Lawrence, BTJ fading into oblivion.
11:46Jacoby Myers, a little older Travis hunters playing defense.
11:48I mean, I don't know what else to say.
11:51This guy's going to get a huge payday. I mean, they're going to, they're going to have to cash him out at the end of this season.
11:59So at this point I'm all in. So like I've, I've, I also have him slotted right around 15, 16, honestly, like
12:05I, I shot him up above Devonta Smith. I've got him above all the wide receivers from this year.
12:11Uh, it's class. I got him above Tate. I got him above Tyson, above lemon.
12:15I've got him above Rome. I've got him above Luther.
12:18Um, the, the spot that I came to, which I think you're going to say for sure, but I've got him right there with a book.
12:26Good. Now, obviously we've seen more from Parker Washington through this little stretch.
12:30Obviously I'd book a had a great eight game stretch seven game stretch last year, but you would, you would take Parker
12:36Washington and swap them out for a book right now.
12:39I'm assuming cause you're a big, I feel like you're a little anti-ag book.
12:43I am. I mean, I, that's a smash except for me, but you know, Casey, we've talked about this in the past.
12:50Like I want players that are attached to stable franchises and offenses that have a certain level of predictable production.
12:55I feel like the Jaguars have entered that conversation.
12:58I don't think the bucks are even at the doorstep.
13:01Like they're still outside knocking. Like, what are they going to do in the coaching department?
13:06You know, Baker Mayfield coming back from an injury is even going to be a hundred percent when he was a hundred percent to start the season.
13:14How did he look pretty down in the dumps?
13:16Right. So I think it's just like, I haven't seen enough from Tampa Bay at the current moment in time to be
13:23like, yeah, I'm all in on this offensive system.
13:25The Jags. I am in on, I think the Jags have a formidable offense.
13:29That is going to be predictable and repeatable as at least as long as this year goes.
13:34Right. He's, he's coming in at wide receiver eight right now in PPR formats.
13:38Um, he's clearly, like you said, their wide receiver one right now.
13:42Now, obviously the bucks are going through getting back to the book side of things.
13:46Like the bucks are obviously having some issues right now at quarterback.
13:50Um, but Baker hasn't been playing, didn't start the season with his hair on fire either.
13:55Um, so I could see why you would say, Hey, at this point you got to go Parker Washington, you know, but
14:01that's just kind of the life cycle of, of what goes on.
14:04There was at this point in the season last year, a Buka would have been like, Oh my God, you can't get them for anything.
14:12Um, and now, you know, Parker Washington was somebody who we were thinking could do this, but now has done it.
14:18And we kind of saw some of it, a great finish to last year.
14:22And we've seen a great start this year. It's hard to think anything other than, Hey, this guy is inside.
14:28Like I said, I got him at 15 right now, right next to a Buka and I could slide them one over like Zay flowers or Parker Washington.
14:36Okay. I have Zay flowers ahead of him. I like Zay flowers up at the 13 spot.
14:41I'm maybe a little higher than consensus, but he's been super efficient.
14:45Yeah. I've got, I've got Parker Washington or I've got Zay ahead of, ahead of Parker Washington as well.
14:50And then we just mentioned Nico. Would you, would you rather have Parker Washington or Nico Collins?
14:55I'm still in on Nico Collins here. I think the closest for me, and I know we're going to blend this and
15:02talk about one of these other guys in a moment here, but like Parker Washington, George Pickens, Christian Watson.
15:07Like, I feel like that is your stretch where it gets really tough for me.
15:11Do you have a, do you have a, a certain way you're leaning there?
15:16I'm I've got him clear of all those guys.
15:18Okay. I like, I, I, I just feel like he's with Pickens.
15:22I don't know where the, what the situation is going to be next year.
15:26Um, and to me, this is pretty clear that this is, you know, not actually, I can't say for sure, but it
15:32seems like I can't imagine they're going to let Parker Washington get out of that building with, with the direction that Jacksonville is going.
15:39Right. No, absolutely not. And you know, Christian Watson a few years older.
15:43Um, yes. And so, and we're going to talk Christian Watson here next.
15:47Um, but I would take Parker Washington right now, just from a dynasty standpoint, from age, um, Nick, Nico still for me.
15:53And then you could say that you could use the age argument there, but Nico's just a proven stud cornerstone kind of player.
16:00Right. Um, so I, you know, I'm, I'm sticking with him there.
16:04Um, looking at some Parker Washington trades here right now, he's wide receiver 18 in the FFD, uh, FF dynasty.com crowdsource ranking, super flex PPR, um, age 24.
16:12And if we just go look at some trades that have kind of went down with him recently, a first and a
16:18third, 27, first and a 28 third for Parker Washington.
16:21I'll take the Parker Washington side there comfortably. Yeah, I think so.
16:25Um, tight end premium Isaiah likely and RJ Harvey or Parker Washington.
16:28I'll still go Parker likely has looked real good though.
16:31He has, he has, and he would certainly be a big mover on the tight end side of things.
16:37Um, but Parker Washington is now entered. Like if there isn't another elite name in this other side of the trade, like I'm, I'm not doing it.
16:45Um, and, and I'm not saying that Isaiah likely isn't right now playing and putting up, you know, pretty much elite tight end numbers.
16:52And if this is one, if it's two point premium, then we have a more of a discussion about likely just cause
16:58the, you know, kind of the volume that he's, he's getting right now.
17:02But if it's 1.5, it's like I said, there's, there's not enough of a premium asset on that other side for me, not to want Washington.
17:09Yeah. Agreed. Um, let's see here. Just looking at some other things like what I'm seeing here though, is that it doesn't
17:16seem as though it has gotten crazy out of hand for Parker Washington.
17:20Washington to, to acquire in some circles yet. Yeah.
17:22I think it's going to be a league economy dependent.
17:25Like I I've had some leagues where people are already, I've come and knocking the last few weeks and they're like, Oh,
17:32Parker Washington's not moving off my roster for anything.
17:34Two firsts minimum. One of them's gotta be early.
17:37Right. But then you've got other leagues that I'm sure are, are a little bit slower to react.
17:42And you start floating some names out there that are exciting, especially ones that have been mainstays in our minds the last few years.
17:49Maybe like those Devonta Smiths, AJ Brown, T Higgins, right?
17:52You start floating those names out there. You might be able to get a deal done still.
17:57So I like it. Send offers for Parker Washington today.
18:00And I think you got to play on the, on the name value, right?
18:04Like that's where you're going to get it done.
18:07Casey, in my mind, it's a psychological game. Exactly.
18:09That's exactly right. And that's kind of what I was meaning on the other, like if there's not a premium asset in
18:16there, like, you know, but I think that's kind of what you need to be.
18:20Like you said, I think all a bunch of those names that you mentioned right there would be good.
18:26You know, like obviously Waddle not playing well right now.
18:29What would I have to add to Waddle to get Waddle to the Parker Washington owner?
18:33Probably not necessarily anything right at this particular moment.
18:36But if Waddle, you know, if you look at the box score, he has a couple of okay games in there.
18:42But if Waddle kind of bounced back, like I'd be looking to try to like move Waddle, add something good to it
18:49and try to go get like a Parker Washington.
18:51Right. Like, because there's some name cachet there. Right.
18:54Absolutely. Yeah. You want to stay, stay ahead of the market, add your contending 27 second to jail and Waddle and go try to get Parker Washington.
19:02You've got my blessing on that every day of the week.
19:05I I'd say the same thing for even a player like Lad McConkie.
19:09You know, I think it's not to be too reactionary on the Chargers offense, but this looks like a guy that was
19:15really good in year one and took advantage of his opportunity.
19:18And since then, haven't really seen a whole lot we can hang our hats on here.
19:23And now he can't stay on the field and his offense is all over the place.
19:28I mean, I know a lot of people that were thinking Lad was going to have a wide receiver one season at the beginning of the year.
19:36If those sentiments are still floating around in someone's psyche, let's start sending those offers today.
19:40Yeah. Parker Washington, just to put a bow on it and then we'll move on to Christian Watson.
19:4612th in our mover rankings right now over the last 30 days, up 27 spots and up 11 spots at the receiver department.
19:52So that was where the wide receiver 18 came into play.
19:56And me and Stan seem to be a bit higher than consensus on that already.
20:00So I like I like where we're at there.
20:03Let's go to Christian Watson. But and I'm going to bring in Golden, too, because I feel like they're kind of synonymous
20:09in how the discussion can go with those guys.
20:12And then we'll kind of put them in a ranking here.
20:15So Christian Watson right now is wide receiver three on the season.
20:18And Golden is not too far behind, but they're basically reaping the benefits of being just basically this entire Packers offense right now.
20:25Like if you're looking at Watson, he's fifth in overall yards with 474.
20:29He's got 37 targets and 26 receptions. You look at Golden, he's got 42 targets and 24 receptions.
20:34Right. If you look at their target percentage, it's 22 percent for Golden.
20:38It's 20 percent for Christian Watson. Team TD shares, 60 percent Watson, 20 percent Golden.
20:42First read target shares. It's 26 percent for Golden.
20:45Let's see. I don't know if I have the first read for our first read 23 percent for Christian Watson.
20:51So they're all they're right there. Targets per route run pretty close for each one of them.
20:56So it's 0.26 for Golden, 0.24 for Watson. So they're kind of neck and neck with a lot of things except for
21:02and I brought this up just because that TD market share at 60 percent to 20 percent is a big differentiator right now in fantasy points scored.
21:10So I bring this up to say basically as I was moving them through the rankings, I was almost moving them together.
21:17And Golden has the the age apex on Watson here.
21:20So just kind of talking about both of those guys, there's, you know, just to bring up 33 percent of the air
21:26yards or Christian Watson's, 37 percent of the air yards are Golden's.
21:30They're just they're splitting so much. 28 percent of the yards team market share are Golden's.
21:34And let's see, 33 percent of the team market share 11th overall are Watson's.
21:38Right. So they seem very synonymous with each other.
21:41This seems like the point scored could easily just flip flop all season long if TDs change a little bit.
21:47And I'm not trying to take anything away from Watson at all.
21:50I think I think I was wrong about Watson coming in.
21:54To me, he's always been a very volatile player as far as fantasy value goes.
21:58So it's been a buy low, sell high with Watson game for me.
22:02And now Watson just seems healthy, seems right. Their run game is non-existent.
22:06Jaden reads out. They got rid of Dobbs. They Wicks is out of town.
22:10And this whole thing is being funneled through these two guys.
22:13So it seems to be quite the different dynamic on offense for Green Bay leading to kind of where we're at with Watson and Golden.
22:20So as I was moving the rankings, I moved them basically together right next to each other.
22:25So, Stan, how are you playing what Christian Watson is doing right now for the Packers and then also the Golden angle?
22:32Yeah, I mean, you covered so much. And I just want to echo it with like exactly that.
22:37There's a very small opportunity for the running game here in Green Bay.
22:41It's basically been non-existent. I know Lloyd sneaks a couple of touchdowns in this week and, you know, kind of just makes the box score look better.
22:49But that Packers offense is single-handedly rolling through these two pass catchers, a little bit of Tucker Craft mix in.
22:54And Jordan Love is also a guy that's getting it done from a fantasy perspective in a way that I haven't been
23:01accustomed to seeing him kind of put those numbers up the last few years.
23:05But with Matthew Golden specifically, I think one thing that especially more of the retoolers, rebuilding rosters, maybe people that aren't exactly ultimate contenders right now.
23:13Like you need to be doing everything you can probably to get this guy on your roster because as you mentioned, moving
23:19him and Christian Watson together is totally fair. However, Christian Watson's 27 and has had a bunch of injuries in his career.
23:25And Matthew Golden sitting over here at a ripe age of 23 and just very fresh in the league in the sense
23:32where the ceiling for Matthew Golden, especially with this level of volume, if it continues, is just so exciting.
23:37Right. And so I think, yeah, the underlying numbers are probably going to lean Christian Watson's way.
23:42The touchdowns are falling there and he absolutely deserves to be in every conversation he's in right now.
23:48He's electric. He's getting it done. He's winning matchups for you each and every week.
23:52But like you mentioned, I got them really close.
23:55I got Watson all the way up at wide receiver 18 right now for the immediate touchdown upside.
24:00But Matthew Golden's right there behind him at wide receiver 22.
24:03And I could see him jump in pretty significantly in the coming weeks here as long as we just continue to see this happen.
24:10Right. Because the only thing I caution people with and you mentioned it earlier in the show is I remember a book his first five weeks last year.
24:18He was looking like a cornerstone dynasty wide receiver one.
24:21Right. And so then we fell off the rails.
24:24It is still early enough in the season that those things can happen that, you know, guys that have done nothing so far could finish and be electric.
24:32Colston Loveland. And we also can have a book a start to the year and then a drop off.
24:38So I'm not putting that out there because I think Matthew Golden hasn't earned it.
24:42He has. I'm just saying I'm a little bit more tentative on him than I am on Watson, only because I loved Watson's prospect.
24:49And I've now seen it in every stint that he's been healthy, where he is good when he's healthy.
24:55And now we've just been able to see an extended use case of him being healthy.
24:59And boy, does he look incredible. I mean, as a field stretcher, as a red zone threat in every element of his game.
25:06And, you know, I think we need to talk about Christian Watson as a guy that could be dominant for three to
25:12four years here, as long as he can stay on the right side of the field here and avoid that blue medical tent.
25:19Yeah. I mean, when you look through a bunch of different things on our on the FFDynasty.com, I mean, Matthew Golden is
25:26the number four riser over the last 30 days in the trade database.
25:29Christian Watson is top 10 and most traded players.
25:32So these guys are on the move all over the place.
25:35But like you said, in the rankings here, I haven't moved them up.
25:39I don't think quite, you know, as far as like a Parker Washington just just yet.
25:44But if you're saying if you're talking, I use Devonta Smith as kind of a starting point last conversation with Parker Washington.
25:50So Christian Watson, Matthew Golden or Devonta, not not both, but either or Devonta Smith.
25:55No, it's a great question. I'm looking at my rankings right now.
25:58It's probably a little recency bias because the Eagles offense and the injuries.
26:02I still love Devonta Smith as a receiver. Don't get me wrong.
26:05Talent wise, he's incredible. I've got him at wide receiver 19.
26:09I've got Christian Watson at wide receiver 18. And then I've got Matthew Golden here at wide receiver 22.
26:14And just to give you a little insight in what the sandwich is there between 19 and 22, 20.
26:20I got AJ Brown and 21. I got T Higgins.
26:23So I think Matthew Golden right there wide receiver 22.
26:26I got Denzel Boston at wide receiver 23. So it's like you're talking about some of these younger guys that might be
26:32mainstays on your roster for the future, sneaking their way into the top 25 in a legitimate conversation.
26:37And by all means, if this continues, you know, I think you've got to continue to slowly rise them up throughout the
26:44course of the rest of the season here. But I'm trying to remain a little bit skeptical, right?
26:49I love what I'm seeing, but I'm trying to remain a little skeptical.
26:53I still don't think we've seen a full fledged Tucker craft yet either.
26:57Sure. You know, and that seems to be, you know, kind of a slower ramp up.
27:01It seems like there should be room for him.
27:04I do, you know, when I have been kind of talking about these guys and looking at them and going through all
27:10of this and I bring them up together, like to me, it almost seems as though I should be trying to if
27:17I can turn Christian Watson into Matthew Golden plus, I don't mind doing so.
27:21Right. You should be doing that as a process move, in my opinion.
27:25I think like you were mentioning with a lot of the metrics there, the volume looks really good in Golden's department.
27:31So if you want to take out what we all say is the biggest outlier in fantasy, which is the touchdowns from
27:37Christian Watson, is Matthew Golden not that quote unquote wide receiver one?
27:41I mean, you know, obviously that would be up to to some some stronger analysts than myself here.
27:46But I would say that the numbers look good.
27:49Yeah. Well, like I said, when you go through and look at everything, it's all pretty really close, except for that team TD market share.
27:56Right. 60 percent to 20 percent. Maybe the air yards by Christian Watson is catching a bunch of deep passes.
28:02So air yards are 33 percent Watson, 37 percent Golden.
28:05Oh, there you go. So, you know, everything is is is really tight for the most part.
28:10But that's the big difference. And right now, if we're looking at the crowdsource rankings for Superflex PPR, Watson sitting at 69 wide receiver 26.
28:17And Golden sitting at 86 wide receiver 30. So still some margin in between those players to potentially maybe move Watson.
28:23And look, if you're like you said, Stan, if you're a contender, it's probably really hard to kind of make that move
28:30right away because you've been seeing those touchdowns hit your hit your lineup, hit your wallet.
28:34Of course. Yes. Every week. But I don't think you're losing a ton.
28:38And I think by the end of the year, this could really just sort of balance itself out to a more stable
28:45percentage of TDs going both of their directions and Tucker Craft.
28:48So, you know, I do. But the Packers for a couple of weeks there were like, man, this looks really bad.
28:54Now they come out and beat the Bears this week.
28:57But I think that's, you know, somewhat to do with the Bears defense not being able to be terribly effective against them.
29:03But I think they're going to, you know, even though they've been struggling, though, Watson and Golden have been producing pretty much every single week.
29:11So, yes, I have moved both of them up a considerable amount.
29:14I feel good about Watson and was certainly wrong about him.
29:17I've got them right behind Devonta Smith right now at let's see what that would be.
29:22And I got them in the in the range of I've got George Pickens lower than a lot of people.
29:28And I got Rashi Rice probably a little higher than a lot of people.
29:32So I've got Rashi Rice, George Pickens, Devonta Smith, Christian Watson and Golden kind of as a as a package sitting right there.
29:39Fair enough. Fair enough. So do you want to look and see any any Christian Watson trades to see if you'd be in or out?
29:46Yeah. Yeah, of course. All right. Let's let's check out one or two here and see if so.
29:51A 28 first for Watson. You're in on that, right?
29:54Yeah. Give me Watson. Yeah. Yeah. And that the Marvin the second that one shows up again.
29:59We were on the Watson side. Jonah Coleman and a 27 first.
30:03Still going to go Watson here, but we're getting closer.
30:06Like that's that's a very fair return. If that had popped up in one of my leagues, I definitely wouldn't look down and scoff at it.
30:13I'd be like, yeah, fair deal for both sides there.
30:16And, you know, and we'll get to talking about this later.
30:19And this was this was a little while. This was from October 8th.
30:23But and and lad is on the followers list just to ruin some stuff.
30:27But Christian McCaffrey or Christian McCaffrey, Christian Watson for Lad McConkie and a third.
30:31Yeah, I'll go Watson there. I think we'll talk more about Lad in a moment.
30:36And I already gave you a little spiel. But would there be any scenario if you're more in the rebuilding side that
30:42that you would be in on that? Maybe. Maybe.
30:45But the way I look at it is if you're trying to rebuild anyway, it's only week five.
30:50If you know you have the entire season to shop and just wait for an offer that you like better.
30:56I mean, Christian Watson's appeal doesn't go away tomorrow.
30:59I would probably just go out there and and try to get yourself a better deal.
31:03And that's easier said than done. Right. Everyone's league economy is different.
31:07So sometimes people just don't want to play ball and you can't get a deal done.
31:12But I think if you're sitting on Christian Watson and you are more of a rebuilder, I'm probably just dropping down even lower.
31:18Right. Give me Makai Lemon and a solid amount of liquidity coming back.
31:22I'll go all the way down to Michael Wilson.
31:25I'll go down to Antonio Williams. I'm a big Antonio Williams guy.
31:28But, you know, I'm saying let's just lean in.
31:31If I'm a rebuilder, let me get all these points off my roster.
31:35I don't want to take a chance. Lad's going to score me a couple of 20 point games before the end of the year.
31:42Yeah. Then to be clear, until we move on, I've got Watson and Golden right behind each other.
31:47And you said you had a little bit of space in between them.
31:51Yeah. Very close. Very close. OK. Let's talk about two more receivers real quick.
31:55And then we'll talk a couple another running back or two and maybe maybe a quarterback or two.
32:00So from the wide receiver side, I mean, Denzel Boston is a rookie who's who's really climbing up.
32:05Got to be a big mover right now. And the kind of your first redo of rankings.
32:10And I've got him, honestly, kind of right behind what we were just talking about.
32:15And youth obviously plays a big part in that equation.
32:18Right. But Matthew Golden, Christian Watson, then I kind of have Denzel Boston right there above guys like T Higgins and Waddle.
32:24And obviously we haven't seen A.J. Brown in a minute, but those guys are a little older.
32:29And the math equation of good capital. Good player and youth usually comes out to, hey, you're showing me not telling me
32:35you told me and now you're showing me Watson.
32:38Christian or Deshaun Watson has been somebody who we've been hypercritical of and for a lot of good reasons, but has at
32:45least been good enough to show me that, hey, if Boston can get mediocre quarterback play, this is this is about to be a real deal.
32:52Wide receiver one in the league. So where has Denzel Boston ended up in your rankings right now?
32:57Stan, no, you you called it out. He's right there in the pack that we're talking about.
33:02And I've got him neck and neck. Ironically, Matthew Golden, wide receiver, 22.
33:06Denzel Boston, wide receiver, 23. So, you know, I still have T Higgins at 21 and A.J.
33:11Brown at 20. I think that is is purely out of the upside of what I know for a fact those guys
33:18can do over the course of the season. Right.
33:20And again, I lean back on the Abuka example.
33:23You know, these guys are still young. I want to see more.
33:26All being said, though, like you mentioned, you know, they're both firmly in the top 25 now.
33:31You know, I've moved him ahead of prospects that I really like to my other University of Washington guy, Roma Duns.
33:38I tried to hold hold the good good fight down for a long time.
33:42But, you know, these guys are firmly above him.
33:44You mentioned guys like Jalen Waddell, Wad McConkie. I've got them both above Abuka.
33:48I got them above Burden. I think I'm just very excited about what I'm seeing out of my University of Husky here.
33:55And speaking of former Huskies, I mean, Jeremy Bernard didn't look too shabby this weekend either.
33:59You know, you might get a little bit of rookie action from him down the line if Michael Pittman stays sidelined.
34:06But, you know, I think everything out of Boston, like you mentioned, right?
34:09We haven't seen the best out of Deshaun Watson over the last few years.
34:14He's looking better this, you know, this sample size of this season.
34:17However, if that improves, I think sky's the limit for a guy like Boston.
34:21You know, he's out here doing some pretty incredible things and he's being super efficient, right?
34:2629 targets for 330 yards. He's got the three touchdowns.
34:29There's a little cherry on top. He's got consistent 40-plus yard games.
34:32Like, I don't know what else you need to see out of a young player right out of the gate on an offense we expected very little of.
34:40Right, exactly. All those things are, the math is mathing.
34:43And that's kind of why I had, like, listen, if you're a contender right now, and obviously, again, you know, I mentioned T and A.J.
34:51Brown. And this is just like, and this is why when rankings become difficult, because there's so many scenarios where, yeah, you know what?
34:58I would rather have T. Higgins right now than Boston.
35:01And so this ranking wouldn't necessarily reflect that. But because of the equation that I mentioned to lead this off, that's why
35:07I sort of have Boston ahead of him. Because long-term dynasty situation, when we're looking at a startup next year, Denzel Boston
35:13is going to be a coveted asset if this kind of trajectory continues.
35:17So I'm kind of projecting that. And he's ending up, you know, as a big mover here.
35:22Like I said, right behind guys like Devonta Smith, Christian Watson, Matthew Golden.
35:26Like, this guy seems like the next, kind of the next man up to be a wide receiver, a potent wide receiver
35:33one if Cleveland can keep this trajectory as a whole in general from a team perspective too.
35:37So. Absolutely. Yeah. You mentioned it too with the Christian Watson thing, right?
35:41Like the upside with Denzel Boston that makes him so exciting is the ADOT.
35:45You know, he's right at 17.2 yards, which is just elite outlier numbers when you talk about big play upside and potential alpha production.
35:52Right. So, yeah, all good things with Boston. But let's.
35:55Yeah, no, I love it. Let's do one more in the wide receivers because we're already way over where we should have been in this run.
36:03Jalen Coker was somebody who I thought was interesting.
36:06He moved a good bit for me. Again, these rankings are not 100% settled in right now.
36:11I'm still moving things all around by the time maybe even Jason shows this.
36:15It might be a little different than sort of what we've been talking about.
36:19But Jalen Coker. Right now, like I've kind of got him in a sort of ambiguous spot because I'm not exactly sure what to do with him.
36:27But like, let's say Brian Thomas, who obviously is a big faller right now.
36:31But like if you could swap out Brian Thomas for Jalen Coker right now, you're doing it right.
36:36You probably have to. And God, that just feels so dirty because, you know, I'm always a show me.
36:42Don't tell me. And Brian Thomas Jr. did show me a top 10 finish at the wide receiver position in his rookie season.
36:48Nonetheless, all being considered, though, it's we play a game of what have you done for me lately?
36:54And what Brian Thomas has done for you lately is a whole pack of nothing.
36:58So from where we're sitting right right to now.
37:01Yeah. Jalen Coker looking looking like you got to take that side of the deal and ride the production here.
37:06Yeah. How about I guess, you know, I've I've got a sister.
37:10The Marv deal just happened. I've kind of got him situated right around Marv is where I've got Jalen Coker as like right.
37:17I got these would be like the top 100.
37:19Now, there are draft picks in our rankings and there are still some 26.
37:23So by the time you see this, those will be out.
37:27So these numbers may change a little bit. But like Marv or Coker, I'm going to probably lean Marv there, but it's
37:33just going to be ever so slight like that.
37:36That one I don't care too much for. It's also that I don't own very many shares of either of those two players.
37:42Yeah. So I've got I've got an OK amount of Coker share.
37:46How about Omar Cooper? We haven't seen anything from him, but had had first round draft capital as far as a lot
37:52of dynasty drafts went or at least very early second.
37:55Yeah. He's somebody who you would swap Coker out for or no hanging on.
37:59I'll take Coker there. I don't think the age discount is like enough of a factor for me.
38:05And at least I've seen Coker do it. And I like what I'm seeing out of the Panthers right now.
38:11Not that the Jets are awful by any means, but, you know, I always see a guy like Garrett Wilson there and
38:17now Kenyon Sadiq making a name for himself. And I know they want to run the football.
38:22So at best, Omar Cooper looks like a wide receiver three fantasy producer of the future.
38:27Not not something that I'm super in on today.
38:29Yeah, I'm very willing to have my mind changed if he if he can come out and show us some product, though.
38:36How about like he Jameson Williams is still a ways ahead of Coker, right?
38:40That's a brutal one. I I honestly got him neck and neck, Casey.
38:44I think it's like I think Jameson Williams is a better receiver than Coker, especially when we talk about like real life
38:50prospect and just the speed and big play upside and what I think Jameson Williams is capable of.
38:55But in fantasy here, I got him two or three spots apart.
38:59So I probably slightly lean JMO, but it's very close.
39:02Yeah, when I'm looking at my dynasty rankings, I've got I've got the I've got a decent gap in between numerically.
39:08Like I said, right now we're looking at it like one on one Jameson Williams that 806 or 86 rather.
39:14So I think like you said, I think there's just a better player in JMO there just generally like not and it's no shade on Coker at all.
39:22But I just think what what he like I've seen him put up, you know, last year started so slow and was
39:28still a top 12 finish for Jameson Williams. And this week we saw two touchdowns out of him as he gets going.
39:35Now, I do think sometimes he'll be the odd man out when it's not just, you know, crazy big scores from Detroit,
39:41especially with Laporta being at the level Laporta seems to be back to.
39:45I think that hurts Jameson Williams a good bit.
39:48Naminra is going to get his. So still Jameson Williams by a little bit there for me.
39:53How about Michael Wilson? Obviously, Marv gets traded. I don't know how much.
39:56I don't think that that really affects how Michael Wilson gets used in this offense.
40:01I think he's going to be being used the way he was going to be used.
40:06So I don't I don't see a huge value increase for Michael Wilson here.
40:10But and maybe you do. So Jalen Coker or Michael Wilson, I think most people would scream Michael Wilson.
40:15But I think this is closer than I think a lot of people think.
40:19Yeah, I think a lot of people are going to be closer here.
40:23I'm not one of them. I've been a pretty firm Michael Wilson believer, and I'm just going to double down on all
40:30the takes now, you know, my little mini victory lap, whatever you want to call it.
40:34Right. Like I was buying so much Michael Wilson this offseason.
40:37And I remember I sent Josh Downs and the 202 in my rookie draft this year on the clock for Michael Wilson.
40:44And I got flamed in the chat. Someone was like, Josh Downs is better than Michael Wilson by himself.
40:49I'm like, OK, sure. Well, let's see how that one goes.
40:53I feel OK about it right now, Casey. All to be said, I think that 202 is Nick Singleton.
40:58So I'm not sleeping too tough at this current moment.
41:01But all being said, like I'm going to take the Michael Wilson side here.
41:05What I will say about the Marv trade just briefly is I don't think that this massively vaults up Michael Wilson in
41:12my mind from where he was before. He was seen the majority of the target share there.
41:17OK, now Marvin Harrison isn't there to get his three to five targets per game.
41:21Maybe I guess two of them might funnel to Michael Wilson.
41:24We didn't see it in this one game. Trey McBride still a huge guy there.
41:29I just think wherever you look at it, Michael Wilson is solid.
41:32He's going to get volume. Arizona is going to play a lot of games from behind.
41:37So game script is going to help him out.
41:39He's a firm, solid wide receiver two with wide receiver one upside on any given week.
41:44And I have him placed accordingly. Now, if we want to talk.
41:48Exact numerical rankings. I actually am higher on him than I think a lot of people are.
41:53But I have him one spot behind Boston. So you've got him.
41:56You've got me in that really like close tier here of golden 22, Boston 23, Michael Wilson 24, Roma Dunes a 25.
42:03So, you know, I think you've you've got me putting Michael Wilson, though, above Roma Dunes a Jalen Waddle, Lad McConkie.
42:09Call me crazy, but I think the volume is a lot more predictable.
42:13And hey, if Arizona get a nice quarterback next year in this draft class and try to lean into this retool a bit.
42:19Is Michael Wilson not the recently extended wide receiver one for the next two to three years in a system with a up and coming young QB?
42:27I'm just saying. Yeah, the offseason narratives write themselves.
42:30They become more palatable by the day. That's true.
42:32I've got I've got Michael Wilson at 33 right now as we as we record this and Boston at 25.
42:38So a little bit of a gap there. And then Coker at 36 and Michael Wilson at 33.
42:44So still. But and then the crowdsource has Michael Wilson at 105 wide receiver 37 and Jalen Coker at 108 wide receiver 39.
42:50So those are getting closer. I think Coker has just, you know, stalled out a minute here because he's been, you know,
42:57out and dealing with a little bit of an injury and then had the bye week.
43:01So I think when he gets back on the field, him and Wilson are already close.
43:06So that'll be a fun thing to see kind of how that plays out for the rest of the season.
43:12So. All right. Let's jump over to the running back side of things.
43:16And I don't know how much further we'll get.
43:18I don't even know if we'll get into QBs because of time here.
43:22But, you know, we can we can start off with obviously the big riser there.
43:27Kenny Walker. Right. I don't think we need to spend a ton of time.
43:31But where does where did Kenny Walker kind of top out for you in Dynasty rankings?
43:35I got him at RB five. I think that's where he has to be.
43:39Right. Like you got to have Gibbs, Bajon, Gentty, Jeremiah Love.
43:43Take your pick in what order you want to put those four.
43:46I think that's a comfortable four. But Ken Walker sitting right there at five.
43:50And in fact, as I say, five, it feels disrespectful just because of what I'm watching him do.
43:56But that's where we are today. Right. I feel it's harder to push him any further than that.
44:01So you would have you got Walker over a chance.
44:04Obviously injured. So I don't mind. I do. It's it's five and six.
44:08Right. So I still love HN. I've seen a lot of people selling him super low.
44:12And I said it on Twitter the other day.
44:15It's looking at HN trades. I'm like, this this just seems disrespectful.
44:18But yeah, Walker is going to score crazy points here.
44:21And him and HN are almost the same age.
44:24So it's not too different. I've got them just flip flopped.
44:27I still I'm still holding on to HN and what he was.
44:31But I think generally, as as we're speaking about it, I don't have any problem flipping Walker ahead and calling him Dynasty
44:37RB five right now, which, you know, he probably was, you know, closer to somebody like.
44:42Let's see here. He was probably more like before we started, probably was somewhere around like RB 13.
44:47Yeah. Yeah. I know for a fact that almost every person on the Internet had Chase Brown above him before the start of the year.
44:54And that was right around RB 11 and Dynasty.
44:57So, yeah, Walker's had a nice uptick here. Yeah.
45:00And if we look at the FFD crowdsource super flexed head and premium, we have Kenneth Walker at RB five and HN
45:06and RB seven with Taylor being one tick ahead of him.
45:09And and he's he's he's been on the downturn and HN is.
45:13And obviously, Kenny has been on a great rise for great reason there.
45:17So big riser and Kenny Walker. Obviously, any contender, it's going to be hard to buy somebody like Kenny at this point.
45:23But if you were a contender and, you know, how much would you add to HN if you lost him to get Kenny Walker?
45:30This is a brittle one because like it just it feels like you shouldn't be overpaying.
45:35I would bare minimum be, you know, it have to be a second right like at the bare minimum or equivalent value.
45:41But I think you're almost talking about like you mentioned Omar Cooper Jr.
45:45earlier. I feel like Omar Cooper, Jordan Addison, you know, like you'd have to sweeten the pot a little bit because I
45:51don't think anyone's going to be excited to move Kenneth Walker right now.
45:55And and for very good reason. So I think, you know, knowing that we're kind of talking already, you framed it as
46:02a if you're a rebuilder or retooler or one year punt.
46:05I got to get one other young upside piece coming back to me.
46:09Right. Maybe you mentioned a Jaden Higgins. Just let me get the points off my roster.
46:13Give me more guys that I can sash for the future that are going to hold some value.
46:19Yeah. And the only reason that trade ever would really work is if one is going in wonder one team is going
46:25in one direction, the other team is going in the in one direction.
46:29Right. Yeah. You guys got to be doing the Vin Diesel, Paul Walker and Fast and Furious way waving at the stop
46:35sign and both go in your separate ways. Right.
46:38Right. So I just thought that that would be interesting.
46:41OK, next guy on the list. I think I think Basil Tootin has been quite the riser here.
46:46But, you know, if you have Tootin and you're not watching the games and you're looking at the box score like he's
46:53getting enough opportunity, you know, you're through the through the year through through the year here.
46:57We've got, you know, 15, 13, 15, 17. And then this last game, he got 22 carries, you know, but only, you
47:04know, 72 yards on those or 3.3 in this in this last game against Philly, which, you know, defense still playing well for Philadelphia.
47:11And then, you know, the targets are something that is, you know, on the lower end for Tootin.
47:16So and then they'll spread those around to another back or two and tech and really just generally Jacksonville, not a team
47:22that throws it to the running back super heavily.
47:25Right. So how does that affect your Tootin ranking and how far did you move him?
47:30Because I do think what you're watching with Tootin, if you're watching Jaguar games is you're saying, oh, that looks really good.
47:36And he's still, I think, let's see, I think he's.
47:39RB 18 on the season, I'll double check that, but like it's it's not bad, but it's not awesome.
47:45But I think what visually what you're seeing is what it doesn't match what the output on the box score is.
47:51So I'm interested to see what your take is on Tootin.
47:54Yeah, this is such a brutal one for me, Casey, because I wasn't the biggest Basial Tootin fan entering the season.
48:00I kind of felt like this was going to be one of those backfields that was going to cause us a headache.
48:07Now, he's absolutely emerged as the front runner. You mentioned it.
48:10I'm not going to stat pedal at you like his uptick has been significant each week and he's been more and more involved in the offense.
48:17And so from where we are today, like he's undeniable.
48:20He's unavoidable. He's in the conversation now. He's crept into my top 20 here.
48:24That's about as high as I want to put him.
48:27Now, I just still prefer guys like DeAndre Swift and Bucky Irving.
48:31And I know that like that's probably not going to be popular.
48:34But, you know, this is a limited sample size we've seen so far here.
48:38I wonder how long Tootin's leash is going to be like if the fumbling problems from college come back.
48:44Does that start to eat into his workload? Does Jacksonville address the running back room further next season or beyond?
48:50And I'm playing into a real skeptical game here.
48:53All to be said, I have him in the top 20 now.
48:56So you've got me there. I'm probably never going to be the guy that puts Tootin in the top 15 just because,
49:02like you said, like box score looks good. I still don't see him as like a wildly gifted running back prospect.
49:09I think he is doing exactly what he needs to do to stay on the field, push this offense forward and be a role player.
49:16And there's nothing wrong with that at all from a fantasy football perspective.
49:20He's going to score you points. He's going to see opportunity.
49:23Let's leave it at that. I don't think he's any sort of gifted talent.
49:27Like I hate to make the comparison, but we saw what Bucky did, you know, on Thursday night football this last week
49:33with the vision in the backfield and the explosion and the long run.
49:37It's like, I just don't think you're ever going to get that from Tootin.
49:41You know, like he doesn't have that level of upside to me.
49:45But is the points going to show up on your roster?
49:48Yeah. Yeah, they are. And that's what they're doing each week right now, Casey.
49:52So you probably have a little bit more favorable view of him than I do.
49:57But I'm a hater. I'm not I'm not a hater by any means.
50:00I did think that the distribution of totes would be a little more spread around.
50:05I thought Rodriguez would have a bigger stranglehold on on some market share of this backfield.
50:09But it does seem like Tootin's got a good hold on it.
50:13And if we keep it at the pace that we're at, I feel OK about what Tootin is right now.
50:19If we look at the crowdsource rankings, he's he's moving up a little bit.
50:23But he's RB 18. So kind of right around what we're talking about.
50:27As you mentioned, Bucky Irving is somebody who's only a couple spots ahead of him.
50:31And I would absolutely unequivocally trade Bucky Irving for Bajal Tootin all day long or vice versa.
50:36Bajal Tootin for Bucky Irving all day long. Right.
50:39For sure. I like Bucky more. Again, if there was some more passing volume going to Tootin, I think this is this
50:45this just knocks the floor up even higher. I do like the offense that he's tied to.
50:50I like the ecosystem. That's typically something that I want to buy into.
50:54So I don't mind it right now. I've got him.
50:57Let's see. I've got him ranked at 19 right behind Javante Williams.
51:00Yep. That's so and then, you know, ETN is kind of leaked back a little bit through this season.
51:06Cam Scadabo is leaked back behind him by a player or two.
51:09Jadarian Price is the one that I wouldn't mind bringing up here with you since you are the Seattle guy.
51:15I've got him one spot right behind Tootin. And I think it's kind of similar like what I've seen from Price on
51:22and I'm a little anti from kind of what you were saying there is like what I saw on Tootin on film.
51:28I really like what I am. But the box score necessarily isn't quite getting to where I'd like it to be for
51:35some of the reasons we stated Jadarian Price. Same thing.
51:38What I've seen from him on the field in the limited sample that we've seen, I really like.
51:43But he's been unstartable. And this is actually been kind of nice to deal with that question mark because, you know, he's
51:49just it's just not resulting in enough fantasy points.
51:52Now, Tootin's been fine enough in that regard. So Tootin or Price?
51:55I have Tootin one spot ahead of him. And I think the reason for that, Casey, is just it's a psychological game dynasty is.
52:02I know Tootin has a lot better market in most people's eyes right now than Price does because the taste that's been
52:09left in people's mouth with Jadarian Price is he has ball security issues and he fumbles.
52:14And he hasn't been able to beat out George Helani and Emmanuel Wilson.
52:17And so Anzac Charbonnet is waiting in the wings coming back.
52:21So I think all the storylines on Jadarian Price are negative.
52:24All the storylines on Tootin are positive. So I'm going to hitch myself to the horse that's plugging forward right now and not backwards.
52:31That would be the reasoning. All being said, though, I view them like you said.
52:35I have them literally back to back in my rankings.
52:38And probably long term, I still prefer Price in a vacuum.
52:41But that's also just because, yeah, I think I think even though it's been limited film, I think Price is more explosive.
52:48Like, I think if you get Price in open space, he can do more down the line.
52:53And I think Seattle has a more structured role for him in the passing game, at least the way they view him.
52:59So that would be that would be part of the reason in there because you mentioned the lack of receptions.
53:05And I agree, you know, you've been getting barely to to a game from right.
53:09So, yeah. So, I mean, there's here's a trade for two twos for Tootin.
53:1427 and 28. I'll go to it in there.
53:16I think he's got to be in the conversation of a first first.
53:20OK, so 27 first starts a conversation. Yeah, I think late.
53:23Right. And this is this is in season. You know, we can have different conversations in the offseason and the dynasty market can correct.
53:30And first can be worth a ton again. But the fact of the matter is Tootin is putting up points for you each and every week right now.
53:38And I think if you need points on your roster, you're not buying points for seconds.
53:43You're buying, you know, legitimate running back points for first.
53:46Yeah, I like it. All right. We got two more guys who I want to get to in the running back thing
53:52and we'll try to keep it quick. And then we'll switch shows and go to the fallers here.
53:58And we'll try to move that one a little quicker.
54:01All right. Jalen Warren has been unbelievable without Rico.
54:03So just an absolute league winner right now. Looks I think he looks great.
54:07Absolutely. So how are you? How are we gauging?
54:10Obviously, it has to be a bit of a riser here.
54:13But how are we gauging Warren with Rico looming in return?
54:16And what are your thoughts on that whole ecosystem there?
54:19Call me crazy, but I'm really not that phased by Rico Dowdle right now.
54:23And it's probably some recency bias on just like how good Jalen Warren's been looking.
54:28But I swear when I watch Jalen Warren play and I've been watching in the last several weeks with an increased workload
54:34here, it makes me scratch my head and wonder why is Jalen Warren not been given more opportunity in the past to
54:41be the feature back in this Pittsburgh backfield? Because like he is good.
54:45He is a good player. He's got great vision.
54:47I like his opportunity down the field that he's, you know, really breaking some of these big runs and being pretty explosive, cutting it to the outside.
54:55He's been involved in the passing game here. And I think by all metrics, Jalen Warren looks like a starting running back in this league.
55:02And I don't think it can be argued otherwise.
55:05Now, Rico Dowdle is waiting in the wings. You mentioned that.
55:08And so I think he gets involved probably at a 30% rate.
55:12But I don't think it's going to be the 60-40 ad before.
55:15And if anything, a 70-30 split or 65-35 split, however you want to chop it here, it doesn't make me too worried.
55:22And you had to keep in mind, even if Rico Dowdle comes in and scores a couple of touchdowns, right?
55:28And vultures that away. He still had back-to-back weeks of Jalen Warren over 20 points without even a single, you know, touchdown on the box score.
55:35Yeah. Yeah. I mean, so, you know, I think if you're, if you are a contender, you probably don't want to do it.
55:42Like with Rico coming back, you don't think it's going to be an issue.
55:46But would there, is there, would this be a time that you would try to pivot and just get something a little more firm in your lineup?
55:54If Warren's been somebody who you've been kind of leaning on to help you get over some humps as a contender?
56:00Yeah, for sure. I mean, if you've got the luxury of running back depth, which I just feel like a lot of people don't have right now.
56:08Right. And so that's certainly not. That's like the tough thing.
56:11If you are one of the lucky few out there, first comment, let us know.
56:16We'll take a victory lap with you and we'll all crack a beer together.
56:20But I think if you have the extra Jalen Warren or you're not dependent on him, pivoting to a position that is
56:26not running back, I think is your smarter move.
56:29And trying to like move laterally and try to maybe play off the offseason psychology of like, well, these guys weren't that
56:35far away or they're both kind of in the same range right now.
56:39And I'm thinking like Michael Wilson. Right. Like I'm excited about Michael Wilson.
56:43I think he's going to be a lot more active in your dynasty leagues for the next several years and hold his value better than Jalen Warren will.
56:51So if I got to add a little something to Jalen Warren, maybe I throw a Jalen McMillan in there or, you
56:57know, something that gets the other guy excited that that would be where I would go with it.
57:03Right. I use Jalen Warren to vault across positions.
57:05I don't think you're going to get a lot of deals of like, hey, I'll give you Jalen Warren for Bucky Irving.
57:12It's not going to happen. Right. Yeah. Right. Michael Wilson.
57:15There's actually two trades from yesterday with just straight up from Michael Wilson in our trade database.
57:20Love that. So so that those were coming to the first couple that kind of popped up there.
57:25So super interesting. Tight end premium George Kittle, you know, like can we get away to George Kittle in a in a dynasty league?
57:32People are a little worried about the age, the Achilles injury.
57:35I mean, yeah, those are the type of moves.
57:38Right. Yeah. I mean, you know, and if you're if you're a rebuilder and you can get out for like, you know,
57:44a two and a three right now for 26.
57:47Seven. Would you sell that for Warren? Yeah. Yeah.
57:49That seems fair. I just I don't think you're ever getting a first form.
57:54Right. So right. Right. Two seconds would be the highest.
57:56You'd go a two and a three seems palatable.
57:59Yeah. And there's one for straight up for Jonah Coleman.
58:02I like that trade. I like that trade, too.
58:05So and then here's this. I don't know how this one went down, but Jalen Warren and DK Metcalf for Denzel Boston.
58:11I think I think that's an easy smash. That's probably what what the kids would call the taco trade.
58:17But Jalen Warren and adding something else good to it to get a Denzel Boston is, you know, if you can, like
58:23you said, there's not a lot of people with running back depth.
58:27Maybe somebody has a lot of wide receiver depth and they're willing to trade Denzel Boston and just don't believe in Cleveland long term.
58:34And you could say, hey, you know, let me let me add another good solid piece.
58:38Not obviously. I don't think DK should be the piece that gets that over the top.
58:43But like you said, maybe Mike, maybe Jalen Warren and Michael Wilson to get Denzel Boston.
58:48Is that is that. But I think it's still fair, right?
58:51Like, I think that that's a fair deal. And one thing I will say and just add, because what you said is astute right there.
58:58You were like, oh, yeah, maybe that's a taco league trade.
59:01I think you and I would agree with that.
59:04I still think there is a ton of opportunity out there to make deals like that.
59:09And that is a perfect example. Like DK Warren, go get Boston.
59:12The storylines are already written. All the Browns are overachieving.
59:15Deshaun Watson's playing better than he ever has. Casey Conception has had a slow start.
59:20You know, like all these things that you could write to, you know, make the case that Boston isn't for the long stay.
59:26Right. And you and I are bought in on that.
59:29But I think there's a lot of people that aren't.
59:32So, yeah, you have my full blessing. Jalen Warren, DK Metcalf.
59:35Go get yourself some Denzel Boston. We're Kenzo. Casey Concepcion.
59:38I'm still very much in on him. Absolutely. He's down a little bit right now.
59:43Obviously got hurt this week. Warren and something else to go get somebody like that.
59:47I like I like that move if you want to pivot off of Warren.
59:51Absolutely. So before we check out, we had quarterbacks in the list.
59:55We're out of time. But you mentioned Charbonnet and being the Seahawks guy.
59:58I wanted to get and he's slowly climbing back up in our crowdsource ranks.
60:03He's getting closer and closer to returning. Is he somebody that you should be interested in buying before?
60:08Or is this just going to be a disappointing split as far as his return?
60:12No, you should be buying Zach Charbonnet. I mean, I will try to keep this brief.
60:17Here's my 60 seconds or less. Your window to buy Zach Charbonnet is almost closed.
60:21I would say it's probably closed. But if there's still opportunity, you should be sending offers today.
60:26A few reasons. He's in a contract here. If he gets extended by Seattle, he's got a long term goal line role.
60:33And if anything were to happen to Jadarian Price again, which he's already had injuries even early in his career here.
60:39Zach Charbonnet is just a must lock and load in your lineup every single week.
60:43And he's 25 and he's shown he can do it at a top level.
60:47He even kept Kenneth Walker off the field. You know when now we can see what Kenneth Walker's ceiling is.
60:53So that has to say something about Zach Charbonnet.
60:56And I promise you, he's a very good running back.
60:59I watch him incessantly. Now, outside of that, I think that in the immediate, he's going to have not only the goal
61:05line touches, but they're going to work Price back in slowly.
61:08They clearly don't trust Helani. Wilson's already had fumbling problems as well.
61:12Like, I would not be surprised to see Zach Charbonnet get 70 to 80% of the opportunity share right out of the gate, out of injury, right?
61:20And that is something that maybe they're going to be more tentative on because of the injury.
61:25And I've seen the pictures. Yes, his leg looks a lot smaller on the injured knee than the other side.
61:31And it's already caused a little bit of ruffles in practice.
61:34And they're like, are you rushing him back too soon?
61:37Yada, yada, yada. All being said, like, I would tell you confidently with where the Seahawks fandom is sitting today and the
61:43reactions on Twitter over the last couple of days, people do not want George Helani touching the football ever again.
61:49People are very skeptical of Manuel Wilson. I think just to keep the 12s at bay here, the soonest that Zach Charbonnet
61:56is available to take a serious workload, they are going to give it to him.
62:00And Mike McDonald loves Zach Charbonnet personality wise and like as a team player.
62:04So all to be said, there's your 60 second spiel.
62:07You should be buying Zach Charbonnet. The coaches love him.
62:10The role will be there. He's going to have touchdown upside at the bare minimum.
62:14I am at RB 27 in my dynasty rankings, like probably way higher than most.
62:19But I think he's a starter and he's a starter quality player in this league at age, you know, 25 years.
62:25So, yeah, I'm seeing a couple 27 seconds for Charbonnet.
62:28I see there's a 27 third, but you would do it for a second.
62:32Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'd send a second and a third for sharp today comfortably right now in our dynasty super flex crowdsource rankings.
62:39FF dynasty dot com looking like RB 29. He's he's on the rise.
62:43He's up 13 overall spots up four spots from the in the running back position.
62:47Hey, that makes me feel better. Yeah. Closer to the number that I was at.
62:52I, you know, I'm going to joke with this, but Zach Charbonnet is what the Blake Quorum truthers like wish Blake was what they wish he was.
63:00Zach Charbonnet is a better running back in all facets of his game, and he's going to have a better opportunity share coming soon.
63:07The knives are going to be out on that one.
63:10I'm just saying I'm just pull up the tape guys.
63:12Pull up. Pull it up. Zach Charbonnet is a good running back before we leave it.
63:17And, you know, well, I'm sure we'll talk about this more, but I want to say Eli Raritan is somebody rising up
63:24the charts and that I would buy right now.
63:26And look, and anything with tight end premium, I'm overpaying up like this is probably a bit crazy.
63:31I'm paying a second right now for Raritan. I think he's the next coming for them and going to be a big part of what they do.
63:39He's a rookie and already making an impact already having some pretty big games, some decent targets.
63:44So he's a big buy for me. And I know you had you mentioned you wanted to mention strange real quick.
63:51Yeah, Brenton strange. I mean, he's had a really solid couple of weeks here.
63:55He looks like he's getting more involved. I know a lot of people were excited about him.
64:00Only 25. So plenty of plenty of runway left there in the tight end department.
64:04Think you got to start paying attention and find a little honorable mention.
64:08I know we didn't put it on the show sheet or anything, but like I've been really enjoying seeing a career revival
64:14for my boy, Pat Fryer-Muth out here. Oh, love it.
64:17Like actually a very solid NFL player. He got kind of like put in the doghouse last year.
64:22I don't know why, you know, and this year they're utilizing him again.
64:26And this is a guy that people forget, like had exciting finishes early on in his career, even in a fantasy football department.
64:33And like for some reason, people forget he's 27.
64:36Like he's the prime of his career right now.
64:38He's playing really good ball. He's, you know, I've been flexing him in a lot of tight end premium leagues each and every week.
64:45And sure. He's been a double digit finisher every single time.
64:48So, you know, I think like no one's talking about him.
64:52I haven't heard a single person mentioned Pat Fryer-Muth out here on the interwebs.
64:56So yeah, like go, go take some sexier names like Mark Andrews and Dallas Goddard and whatever.
65:01Don't you throw Goddard in there. Don't you throw Goddard in there.
65:04Yeah. I'm just saying Dallas Goddard is 33, but Pat Fryer-Muth is 27.
65:08Sorry, Dallas Goddard is 32, but Fryer-Muth is 27, right?
65:11Like Hunter Henry, you know, Jake Ferguson, like let's pivot to Pat Fryer-Muth.
65:15I mean, I've seen more out of Fryer-Muth this season than Ferguson's offered me.
65:19Yeah. All right. I like it. We're going to wrap this one up.
65:23We'll catch you guys next week. Make sure you go check out Stan on the Dynasty price check.
65:28We'll see you next time. Peace. Cheers.
