0:00top 1,000 team in the Millie Maker generated on this show last week. We're going to go through every game on the
0:06main DFS slate. Give the best plays beginning with the New York Giants at the Houston Texans. JJ McCarthy is starting this game, not Jameus Winston.
0:15You and I have been, I think, pretty aligned on the neighbors likely stuff since the season started. Just like, oh well, these guys are just going to get
0:24the ball every single play. The question I have to you Jacob is Malik Neighbors barely has risen in price despite back-to-back games of double-digit
0:33targets. I I believe 34 targets the most recent two weeks from Malik Neighbors likely target share numbers just as insane. Are we buying JJ McCarthy's
0:42fourth quarter performance uh against Shell, you know, the most vanilla defensive looks imaginable from the New Orleans Saints or are we going to get JJ
0:51McCarthy returning back to to whence we have known him?
0:56I'm guessing the latter, but I'll admit to being like 4% JJ McCarthy curious.
1:02I'm I'm slightly JJ McCarthy curious, but I I'm for the most part, my expectation is he's going to suck. And my expectation is that Malik Neighbors
1:12and Isaiah Likely will suffer the consequences for J.J.
1:18McCarthy spurt of reasonable results. I won't even necessarily say reasonable play. I I mean, nobody did a better breakdown to me of like the playbyplay
1:28experience of watching JJ McCarthy than Gretch this week in Signals. Um, which was very helpful in bringing me back off the ledge of worrying that JJ McCarthy
1:37was all of a sudden going to make me eat all the slander that I'd tweeted out about him over the years. But, um, yeah,
1:45I I think that probably it's going to be a downgrade for the Giants offense. I I mean I still think that Neighbors
1:53and likely are playable like they're not like fully off my board. It's easy to envision a scenario where Houston gets off to a big lead and the Giants go into
2:03this pass happy mode that they've been going into with Jamus and like we just saw that J.J. McCarthy can obviously put
2:11up statistics in that scenario. So it's not like it's completely off the board, but I'll probably [snorts] be avoiding the Giants this week I think. Um,
2:20I I wouldn't be against playing like, you know, a one-off Texan at all by by any stretch, particularly Nico Collins.
2:28Um, I think that the the Giants have been vulnerable enough on on defense that you could talk yourself into that for sure, but I'm not probably game
2:35stacking us as aggressively as I was the Saints Giants game last week. Now, I do want to I do want to raise something,
2:42which is that depending on how you look at J.J. McCarthy, if you want to squint and really embrace the 4% of yourself
2:48that is JJ McCarthy curious, there was that stretch of games he had when he returned from the first injury before he
2:57got hurt again. They go against the Commanders. He goes 16 to 23, 163 yards, three touchdowns, no picks. Then he beats Dallas on the road, a Dallas team
3:07that was like on the ropes. Had to win.
3:09Um, you know, like like Dallas was really trying in that game. 15 to 24 for 250 and two, 10.4 YPA. Then gets injured
3:17in that game against the Giants. Comes back and kind of does nothing in a win against the Green Bay Packers. The
3:23stretch of games that we remember of McCarthy being terrible was that four game stretch from week eight to week 11 where he did look like the worst
3:31quarterback anyone has ever. It was just like that was the peak of him firing fast balls to no one us try and and he
3:39had we had just gotten very usable stretches from Justin Jefferson with Carson Wentz at quarterback. So as as also pertains very funny because we're
3:48talking about two quarterbacks who are related here Kyler Murray as pertains to the Kyler Murray discourse. The reason why everyone's so mad and and thinks
3:56Kyler Murray is worse than he actually is is because he was not able to generate fantasy football numbers for Trey McBride the same way the backup was
4:04able to. So that definitely trans I'm not saying McCarthy is good. I'm not saying any of the process of anything the Vikings did. I I'd also like to to
4:12raise one more opinion, not to go too Thor Nistrom coded here, but we do give KOC a lot of credit for being a
4:22quarterback whisperer, right? And if you really look at it, if you really start, you go, okay, well, he did the thing
4:28with Darnold, but what really changed Darnold's career, if you wanted to argue it this way, would be the year he spent
4:33in San Francisco with Kyle Shannon.
4:35>> He came to him pre-whispered.
4:37>> He came to him pre-whispered. Now, I'm not even saying I believe this. I am just offering the argument that you
4:43could believe this if you if you wanted to. And also, you know, the what was it about three and a half games of Josh
4:49Dobs looking like a competent NFL quarterback was a part of that as well.
4:53And I think you could just write that off to kind of like I don't know, the guy was thrown to Justin Jefferson.
4:57Sometimes things just happen. But if you really look into the the whispering of KOC, I I think it becomes harder and
5:04harder to hear the closer you look at it. Uh thoughts thoughts on that? I I think the KOC criticism is honestly
5:13fair. Like he he got a lot of credit for what he was able to do with Sam Darnold.
5:21I mean, in fairness, Sam Darnold is not playing very well this year, >> but some degree great point. Yeah.
5:28>> But some degree of KOC's credit um I think, you know, it was diluted last year when it showed that like no, that
5:35one Darnold year was not like a complete fluke. um you know given the right kind of Shanahan scheme he he obviously and
5:43and an elite wide receiver to throw to of course in Seattle as well he's able to have some level of success that's
5:49sustainable um yeah had to get had to get past Cousins the Mullins do stuff was kind of hit and miss I I I think that it's I think the
6:00that the shine is a little bit off of him I still like don't buy that last year was not a good environment like You
6:08still have, I think, at least an above average pass game designer in KOC. You have >> elite weaponry.
6:16>> The O line was bad. I'll give him that.
6:18Um, I mean, I guess the the main reason I think to believe in JJ would just be like he came into the NFL super young.
6:28He's still, I think, the youngest starter in the league right now.
6:31um you know he had like enough physical tools and pedigree to get him drafted round one like we we have seen
6:39quarterbacks that are drafted >> he's only he's only 23 right now third third year of his NFL career he's only 23
6:47>> whole life ahead of him >> yeah way crazier things have happened than round one quarterback starts his career looking terrible and then
6:54eventually puts it together like that's that's happened before I I guess it would just surprise me if it was this year because like even if the the shine
7:03is off Casey a bit, I guess I don't think he's like a total [ __ ] and I think that if JJ showed up to camp this
7:09summer and he looked substantially better, like he either would have won the job over Kyler in camp or he at least would have still been with the
7:17team as a backup. Um, and so it would surprise me if he looked like bad enough to get the motive to third string and
7:25traded off the team just to instantly be awesome with the New York Giants. Like I mean that would be incredibly embarrassing for
7:32>> So So this is where I find it interesting because I actually don't think he has to be awesome because Jamus
7:38was not awesome, right? All all we have to get from JJ McCarthy, frankly, like an early pick six from J.J. McCarthy
7:45wouldn't even be that bad because we we don't even get an attempt to pretend to establish Tyrone Tracy or Devin Singleary or Scataboo or whatever they I
7:54guess a quick note on the the backfield here.
7:56>> Well, don't blame him in DFS. Yeah, don't blame it. There's there's no way you can do enough to get any despite the
8:02fact that they're cheap. There's no way you can massage the projections for the Giants backfield to get any of these guys to be playable. And frankly, I
8:09would even say the same is true with Marks, assuming Montgomery does not play. Like, I would like to play Woody Marks, but I just don't. He's been so
8:15inefficient. And the >> You would like to play Woody Marks? I wouldn't like >> I would like to have a $5,600 running
8:21backable in in the contract.
8:23>> You can play Woody Marks. Like the the Giants run defense isn't great. I I mean my my King Jaward Jordan is on IR.
8:31>> Yeah, that was a bummer. That was a bummer.
8:32>> So like Marks is probably going to get all of the work. Like we just saw Damen Pierce get 15 points last week and he
8:38>> I guess I guess >> who do we think is the Texans reserve running back now? Um let's go. Let's go
8:45learn a name together. So Dar >> Oh, I actually looked this up. No, I forget.
8:50>> It's actually a guy who's deep in ship chasing lore.
8:54I attended college. Uh uh he he went to the same college I did.
8:58>> Uh Dthon.
9:00>> Dvon. Dvon. Wow. Yeah. We we might get a couple Dvon rushes here. Um I I'm ultimately going to side assuming that
9:08ownerships are very reserved on neighbors and likely which I don't think they're going to be as low as is projected right now on Run the Sims like
9:153%. But I don't it I certainly don't think either of them will get to double digits. And that to me, despite the low
9:23team total, despite all this stuff, I think there's enough of a chance that McCarthy, I mean, maybe even gets the garbageio time, right? Maybe even gets
9:30what he got last week that I think and and the Giants probably because all of these coaches are loosely trying to
9:38coach for their like reputations. Like Naggie is trying to like redo his his life. Greg Roman's trying to redo his life. Callahan uh you know Harbaugh made
9:46this big bet uh you know basically saying like I don't want to work with Lamar anymore and the Ravens said peace
9:52you know uh enjoy enjoy your time like I they're they're one of these teams they're going to keep gunning for it in
9:58the fourth quarter if anything to keep scores close. So I'm I am pro neighbors likely. Uh moving to Indianapolis and Minnesota your team 42 point total. The
10:08Vikings are six and a half point favorites here. Jordan Mason is going to be back this week. Really, the only question I have for you is, are your
10:16Indianapolis Colts weak enough on defense that we can deploy Yeah. the Kyler Murray, Justin Jefferson stacks?
10:23>> Uh, yeah, we are. We We definitely are.
10:26And we're going to be down sauce this week, too. So, that certainly helps with Justin Jefferson as well. Presumably, he'll see a lot of Mooney Ward, but
10:34he'll be able to get reps going against.
10:37I I mean, I think it's going to be Cam Taylor Britt that we play as our second outside corner for the majority this
10:43week. So, yes, the the answer to are we weak enough for the Kyler Murray, Justin Jefferson stack should absolutely be yes. Uh our defense completely fell
10:53apart in the second half uh without Gardner. It's bad, frankly, even with Gardner. So, uh, I definitely think that Minnesota's going to find a way to have
11:03offensive success. Obviously, Aaron Jones completely off the board because his price does not reflect that Jordan Mason is back. Um, so it's it's probably
11:13just the Vikings passing game that I would have interest in. I I mean, I don't know. I don't I don't see a reason
11:19to play a Colt. Like, I I mean, I guess Keenan Allen at 4,800 is like a half decent play. He's probably going to be
11:28the hot road a lot against all the Flores blissing.
11:30>> Do you think Warren back is not going to play?
11:35>> I I have no idea. I think Tyler Warren will probably play. Um just it it seemed like he was kind of close to playing
11:40last week, so I assume he'll probably play. Uh yeah, that would hurt obviously. I don't I don't think that makes Keenan like totally unplayable,
11:47but he's definitely not like a actual jam play like he was last week. Uh nobody on the Colts is a jam play.
11:57Do you I mean do you even want to offer Joshua Downs Hopium? Like do do we even dare do we even dare go there?
12:03>> Have nothing left. Have nothing left.
12:05>> Yeah. I I uh on on my channel comped him to Deont and who loves Josh DS. He he said like he said unfortunately like
12:14Josh Downs to Deontay Johnson is fair.
12:17And that was like a just a a shot right through the heart as as someone who loves Josh DS but who also loved Deontay
12:26Johnson. It's just like that was like dagger. Ow. Um yeah, it's I mean like I I guess if you if you think that the
12:36Colts are going to show up and have pride, you can play Jonathan Taylor. Um like he's obviously going to get all the
12:42work. I I don't know. I'm I I'm interested to see like how much does this room like Shane Styen because there's like a world I guess where if
12:51they do really like him, they will try to rally around Shane Styen and protect his job. There's also like I think a
12:56more likely world in which the entire team just quits on the season and Wilson dies if we get blown out by like 21
13:03points. I mean, how much how much of the explanation here is that Daniel Jones played well last year and is just
13:10playing like so so bad this year?
13:14>> Uh, that's like over 50% of the explanation.
13:17>> I was going to say it's got to be a huge part of it. Yeah.
13:19>> Yeah. It's a massive part of the explanation. I mean, this game against Kyler Murray is like kind of a the world
13:25works in mysterious ways. Like it's it's perfect that this is the quarterback we're playing um the week after Chris Ballard is fired cuz
13:33>> right >> I mean I thought that was the fatal the fatal mistake of their 2026 off season that they learned the wrong lesson. They
13:40the lesson that they thought they learned was we found our quarterback.
13:43His name is Daniel Jones. And the lesson that they should have learned was if we can like have this offense with
13:52five great offensive linemen and Taylor and four above average uh pass catchers at every position. We can get strong
14:02quarterback results out of any passable quarterback. We just need to like kind of sign the cheapest one and then we can
14:11use that money to make sure the rest of our roster is really good. But instead they like gave a bunch of money to Alec
14:16Pierce who doesn't even play anymore.
14:19They gave a bunch of money to Daniel Jones. Like then that meant like they lost Michael Pitman and replaced him with old ass Keenan Allen. They uh lost
14:28multiple play players off the defense that they didn't replace cuz they didn't have the money to because he spent on Daniel Jones. like had had we been the
14:35Kyler Murray team, you know, I I obviously I don't think Kyler Murray would be like a phenomenal quarterback, but I think that we would have been able
14:43to basically just bring back the roster we had last year and and have more success with a healthy Kyler Murray than
14:49we have with like Daniel Jones off the Achilles looking horrible. So, um, anyways, is is what it is, but I I
14:57thought it was a really poorly conceived off season and and we are where we are and Chris Ballard is having a my tie
15:04somewhere.
15:06Keenan Allen, I think even if Warren is ruled in, I think you're right at and as we get through this slate, you guys will
15:12see how tight salary is going to be. We we've kind of reached that portion of the year where the thing that DraftKings
15:18does like they dynamically raise prices pretty well, but guys who suck very rarely see like Josh Downs is still 5600. I mean Josh Downs should be 4,100,
15:29right? Based off of uh of what he has done. Um and so because Keenan's price has not raised too much, I do think even
15:36Warren ruled in he will end up getting played a good bit. High total game. uh a 50 and a half point team total between
15:44the San Francisco 49ers traveling to play at the Atlanta Falcons. Chris McAffrey going to be absolutely giga mega quad like just the the amount of
15:53jamming that McAffrey and Gibbs are going to get this week because no one really projects that well is is kind of
15:58insane. Um CMC right now his base projection before anything gets altered too much is 26 points. I think he I think if you just played McAffrey in
16:07every lineup this week I I think that would be fine. I'm actually not that in to Bejon Robinson, even as leverage off
16:15of McCaffrey, even as leverage off of Gibbs, because I think the chances of them just losing by a lot as we saw last
16:24week and the offense kind of drifts away from him are are relatively high. And I just prefer like for all the arguing we
16:31did about Bejon versus Gibbs this offseason, it's like pretty clear that Gibbs is just he's script proof. He's It's just like he starts a game with 20
16:39and then it's just a matter of how much more he gets after that. The question I have for you is no Mike Evans, uh, no no
16:48Demarcus Robinson, no Debo Samuel, all these guys. Are we just thinking that KD is capable of handling 12 targets in a
16:57game? Or are you more philosophically aligned with me that if Christian Kirk is active for this game at $3,600 that Christian Kirk is going to be Richie
17:07James, Kendrick Bourne, uh, you know, the the the the reborning?
17:13>> My thoughts on Christian Kirk are 1,000% tied to his ownership, which I don't really know where we stand on that. on
17:21Thursday, October 22nd. Uh if I if he's not getting played, I'm very happy to do it. If if like the market's need for
17:32salary relief on this slate leads them to Christian Kirk being like even like 12% owned or something, I I have no
17:40interest in that. Like it's it's just so obvious to see how he could fail. I mean, he's he's just being promoted off
17:48the IR this week. it's plausible that he doesn't even play much and that they roll with Jordan Watkins and Brandon Cooks, you know, primarily as the two
17:56receivers ahead of him.
17:59Um, it's also highly plausible that he's just mega washed. He's coming off of a calf strain that cost him like eight
18:06weeks. Uh, and he is Christian Kirk who I think had like a point or had a 4.8 yards per target last year on the
18:14Houston Texans. So, >> but but 30 point fantasy football game in the postseason against the Texans last year.
18:22>> Yeah. Like that's why I see both sides of it. Like I I'm my base assumption of Christian Kirk is terrible. But yeah,
18:29like if I was to bet on any if I had to bet on a non-kiddle CMC pass catcher to carve out a reasonable role, it probably
18:35would be him. Like Brandon Cooks is more of a deep threat. He's not really target volume guy. He's also probably even more
18:42washed than Kirk is. Uh Jordan Watkins is like the most just a guy ever. He had a 3% target per throw run this week. Um
18:52I don't I don't even like who who even is on the rest of this team. It's like it's so dire. So I I think I think Kirk
18:58is a very fine play if people have negative assumptions about him. But if everyone is like no, this guy's a total
19:03jam. Like like that's like the I feel like that's like such a fundamental rule of DFS. like if people are excited to
19:09jam a wide receiver who has like extremely obvious paths to failure, you just don't participate in that. But um I'll be I'll be totally dependent on
19:18ownership um on what I do with Kirk. And then yeah, I mean McAffrey and KD are are both complete jams. I do think
19:26Bejon's a pretty big jam here. I I mean he had the bad week last week when he was like at 37% owned. Like I think that
19:33that was um probably bad um because this this offense has passed a failure. Like I preferred Ken Walker last week. I I
19:41played poor Ken Walker last week. But uh this like his ceiling remains as high as any running back. The floor overall like
19:49his median projection remains extremely high. He's he's I think the RV2 or is he RB3 now probably on the year behind
19:55Walker and Gibbs. Um and San Francisco has been pretty vulnerable to pass catching running backs. So I I do like McCaffrey. It's or I do like Bejon. It's
20:06very interesting like for most of the season, Bejon's had this type of price gap over McAffrey and Bejian's been way more owned and you know it's kind of
20:14like one one or two injuries happen.
20:16McCaffrey finally has a game where he's super involved in the past game. Now the ownership is completely flipped. Like I I understand the reasons for that. I I
20:23understand the target share has to go somewhere on San Francisco. I get the team totals and all that, but like it is
20:28possible that the inputs are kind of like overreacting slightly to one week that this ownership flip that's kind of out of step of what we've seen the
20:35entire season is a little bit overdramatic. I'm I'm definitely still openminded to playing Ban. I'm very into it.
20:41>> Yeah, I am I'm also very into playing KD. I think this really does project as a double tight end week as we I mean we
20:48are just getting to that point of the season where >> every double tight end week.
20:52>> Yeah. where there I think it's like a it's like a vestigial tale of DraftKings's original pricing algorithm that like tight ends are just treated
21:01differently in the pricing algorithm like their target shares and their ownerships. Like if Isaiah likely was a wide receiver, he'd be priced at, you
21:08know, 6,500 instead of 5,300 or whatever based off of the volume that he has gotten. So KD is just kind of
21:15artificially relatively cheap. And I guess I would also just like to know, I mean, Perie is just having an insane fantasy season. He is running a little
21:22bit. He is hyperefficient. He I I believe right now, depending on where you look, is either the MVP favorite or the second MVP favorite. Getting a dome
21:31game here. The stacks are sort of like hard to do because it's expensive with McAffrey. Um he doesn't really like I
21:38would not play Brandon Cooks. I would not play Jordan Watkins or or any of these guys really. Kirk would really be
21:44the only one I would be interested in.
21:45So I don't think he's going to pop too much in the Sims. If anything, you will probably get a fair amount of pennex at
21:505,300 just because the total for this game is so high in London and Bejon uh projected and and I mean Mr. I mean,
21:58Kyle Pittz, I think, is probably playable cuz he will never play in games they are leading, but I mean, it's kind
22:05of like uh you know who he's kind of like, he's kind of like Luther Burton where he doesn't play in a lot of these
22:12heavy personnel packages, but his targets per route run numbers are all pretty good because he plays in obvious passing situations and those are really
22:18the only times that he plays.
22:20>> Fair.
22:21>> Yeah, >> fair.
22:22>> Uh Cincinnati, Baltimore. So, I thought from this line, two and a half that it would be trending towards Lamar playing,
22:28but Lamar doesn't practice on Wednesday.
22:31Uh, our guy Crack Rockck had a tweet this morning suggesting that Lamar Jackson will not be playing, so I would expect some funkiness with the lines
22:40there. Uh, I mean, you know, Jamar Chase not going to get played on this slate at all. Um because Puka projects way too
22:48well, Gibbs projects way too well, Chase projects worse than Bejon and McAffrey who are sitting there at very similar prices. Flowers not going to get played.
22:57I think rightfully so. I mean, we've seen with Huntley in there, he Flowers is going to be quite good enough for you
23:03to just start him in like your reddraft stuff and you're just like, you know, I'll get my 15 points or whatever, but I
23:08don't think he has the same mega ceiling. And then um poor Mark Andrews, man. It just it left him. It left him
23:16and it ain't coming back. Yeah, >> it's over and that's all right.
23:19>> It's over and that's all right.
23:21>> Uh this game is entirely dependent on whether Lamar Jackson plays and we can't be sure.
23:26>> I'm going to guess I'm going to guess one more week probably there.
23:29>> Well, has have they updated the Vegas line? Earlier in the week, the Vegas line was suggesting that Lamar Jackson was definitely going to play.
23:36>> Um I mean, I'll go look. I'll go look right now. Um >> it's still Baltimore three and a half point favorites. I still think Lamar
23:43Jackson plays.
23:44>> Yeah. Okay. So, if he plays then like Chase Flowers, Lamar, uh I mean Chase, dude, if you're if you were brave enough
23:52to just like really plant your flag on Chase Brown right now, man, could you get paid because he did do this last
23:57year. He was actually worse than this last year. Um for a stretch like we we we got some Perine concern trolling last
24:04year. Uh you know, Jacobe Lane, there's another guy. So So Baitman injures his shoulder. Lane returns to a full-time role. If Lamar plays uh Lane, Lane then
24:15becomes the cheap play dujour. Far far more own than Christian Kurt for sure.
24:20>> Yeah. It's like I feel like I can't even like analyze this game because if it's if it's Huntley then I'm not playing any
24:26Ravens and like I'm I'm I'm probably not that interested in playing Bengals with the maybe with the potential exception of
24:36Chase Brown um on as like a but that might be too fancy. And then if if Lamar does play, I mean, now Flowers is a
24:45smash and Lane is the cheap chalk and Henry is a super fun play and now I'm probably way more inclined to play
24:54Higgins and Chase and Chase Brown um for the potential that they're like in comeback mode all game. I mean, it it
25:02really just hinges on Lamar to me. I if if if it's no Lamar, it's like contrarian play City. If Lamar plays,
25:09this game has the potential to be a total carnival. And I'm going to be very interested in playing a lot of it
25:15because I do still think the ownership is somewhat capped on like not on Lane, but on most the expensive guys because
25:21there's some more straightforward projections. Um, but like from like a game stacking perspective, I think super super super fun if Lamar plays. So, I I
25:29hope that we get that, but it's it's hard to speculate on right now.
25:33>> Yeah. uh Lamar plays and this slate actually becomes like significantly more interesting because it drifts a ton of ownership away from Green Bay Detroit.
25:41It's going to drift some ownership away from Macaffrey and and um you're just going to end up with a a much greater
25:48variety of of options. Like the way the slate is projecting right now, there really are not that many interesting running back options. There aren't
25:56really like I think if Lamar's back, Henry becomes playable. Like I wouldn't want to play Henry with Huntley just because I don't think he'll get enough
26:02raw rushes. But then this game becomes one that can potentially go, you know, kind of kind of way over and FL I mean
26:09Flowers at 6900 maybe becomes the best wide receiver play of the slate. Uh well I Golden obviously but then other than
26:17other than Golden um he becomes I think like stone stone chalk the Miami Dolphins and the New York Football Jets.
26:24So, sounds like we're not getting Bree back this week, but sounds like we are getting Adnai Mitchell back this week.
26:30Brillin um I mean I can you even call Brilen a gold star play? Like I think he's gonna he's going to be about
26:37>> he's going to be so owned. His price is not rising high enough. That's for sure.
26:41>> Yeah. Yeah. Um, so, so no Breece, Brilen. I mean, >> something you I've really learned in the in the sim era of DFS is like there's
26:50like not really an ownership that could make Brillin a bad play.
26:54>> No.
26:54>> Like outside of like accounting for like in-game injury, he would just be like an every lineup style guy here, I think.
27:02>> Yeah. He's going to get a million touches. He gets all of the running back goal line touches. He gets almost all
27:09the running back receiving. Incredible matchup. Yeah, he's like he's just a complete jam. Everyone's gonna show up with him and you want to show up with
27:16him, too.
27:17>> I I think um they they like in the last game, so two games ago, they kind of tried to make the Isaiah Davis thing
27:23work and then this last game they just gave up on I think Isaiah Davis played 11 snaps and and Brilan played 62 or
27:30something like that. Like it was like a totally it was like a Javon Williams Tyler Goodsonesque split in this last game. What is interesting on the Jets
27:39side is do we think they relent on their insane like I teams love to run the ball? Coaches love to run the ball. The
27:48Jets the Jets have a a Ben Johnsonesque passion for never allowing their wide receivers to get fantasy points and just and just running the ball. So Garrett
27:57Wilson, I mean obviously a great matchup against the Miami Dolphins, but like what's the volume like there? And then if AD Mitchell is back this week, does
28:05that mean that Omar Cooper Jr. at 4,100 and Amy Mitchell at 4500 just have to split eight targets between the two of
28:12them and whoever gets the fantasy points gets the fantasy points. Like that that is I wish that the the Dolphin or I wish
28:18that the Jets were a little bit more fun because if they were fun like if Frank Reich found joy in his heart they
28:25could score like 40 here and it could be like a total fantasy bonanza.
28:30Yeah, that is the thing with the Jets, like they they have the capacity to be fun from behind, but when if the run
28:37game is working, and I expect it to work decently well against Miami, if the run game is working, they like their
28:45favorite thing to do is just run it like 15 consecutive times. Like they just have these drives where it's like Brilen
28:51starts with a seven yard run, then he gets an eight yard run, and they're like, "Sweet. We're gonna run Brillin five consecutive times. Then we're gonna
28:58bring him off the field so we can run Isaiah Davis three times. Then we're gonna bring Isaiah Davis back off the
29:02field so then we can run Brilin five more times. Like and they do this with Bree and Brillin too. They had a drive
29:07like this against the Titans uh in week one where like both Bree and Brilin were cooking. They were just rotating them
29:14back and forth. They were just establishing the run and and it was like 13 minutes and I think they kicked a
29:21field goal. And that's that's like what the Jets want to do. They want to have 13-minute long drives with only run
29:27plays that end in field goals. That's kind of their their modus operandi.
29:33They're going to probably be able to do that this week. They're going to be able to accomplish their goal. They're going
29:37to be able to win this game 19- 10 with four field goals on four separate 11 minute drives with 10 carries a piece.
29:48Um split 73 between Brillin and Isaiah Davis. That's That's like probably in their cards.
29:56I I really if I'm going to play a Jet pass catcher, I mean Garrett's obviously fine.
30:01I've been so impressed by Omar Cooper. I really want to play him. Um and and it's like similar to what I said about the
30:07Christian Kirk thing, but with completely opposite reasons obviously. I just want to see what the ownership is.
30:12Like it's like I'm not going to put anything past the chess coaches. So, if everyone has just decided Omar Cooper is
30:18a superstar, it's like, yeah, I think Frank Reich is very capable of playing him a frustratingly low route rate, um,
30:26you know, uh, feeding 80 Mitchell, only passing the ball 22 times, all all that, uh, is very much on play. But like if
30:36the projections or whatever are are too bearish on Omar Cooper's route rate and they think AD Mitchell's gonna target Mog him and the route run's gonna be too
30:44low and like you can you can just play the potential chance that he's a superstar without having to eat a ton
30:50like I I'm pro I'm very into that. I mean I I would guess based on what he went for in FFPC this week including to
30:57me that people are pretty excited to play for him but we'll see.
31:01>> Yeah I I'm I am probably skipping on on these guys. It's really probably just Brillin. Um maybe you could do like an
31:08Olly Gordon 80 Mitchell correlation.
31:10Like Ollie Gordon gets loose for a 60-yard touchdown and then all of a sudden the Jets have to pass a little
31:14bit, but that's that would be only like large field stuff. Like I that I wouldn't get to that in the spy or any
31:20of these three contests or anything. Uh a game we can get through pretty quickly, the Cleveland Browns playing the [clears throat] Tennessee Titans. Um
31:27if you want to play Denzel Boston, fine.
31:29You want to play Carnell Tate, fine. Uh Carninal Tate has uh I believe four of his six games he has target shares above
31:3625%. His A dot is rising a little bit.
31:39Cam Ward is the worst. Deshun Watson is just as bad as Cam Ward. Casey Conpsion for as fun as he is and for as good as
31:48he looks, it's very very hard to generate, as Juell Robinson is learning, very very hard to generate a lot of fantasy numbers when your A dot's like
31:554.4 and you are not getting schemed red zone stuff. I think Judkins will probably be back in this game. If you
32:02wanted to play Judkins as like a total like I would be a very low degree of conviction for me. Maybe he scores a
32:08touchdown.
32:10If if Judkins and Samson are both active in this game, what what little interest I would have had in playing Judkins
32:16would be removed for me honestly because Judkins was getting a little bit of passing work before he injured his ankle and I think Samson would snatch all of
32:24that. [snorts] >> Yeah. I mean, I I'd refer to Dylan Samson by his true name, which is 2024 SEC offensive player of the year, Dylan
32:32Samson.
32:32>> Player of the year. [laughter] >> Um, but uh, yeah, the only player in this game that I have any interest to
32:39play against is Carnell Tate, and I don't have that much interest in playing Carninal Tate.
32:44>> Yeah, I I actually I'm actually I'm I'm Tate curious this week. like the ownerships are just going to be so
32:50condensed at wide receiver that any guy who can like theoretically get a 27 yard touchdown in a game uh in a lightly
32:58projectable way is pretty interesting to me and I don't think I don't think he will get all that owned and Conpion
33:04projections it's kind of interesting conceptions are projections are kind of biased towards Conpsion because his catch rate is very high his target rate
33:12has actually been been quite good but it's just like I don't know my my instinct from watching the games is that
33:19like it is going to require like a herculean yak play for Conpsion to ever hit 20 fantasy points. Like it would
33:28have [clears throat] to be like a Sports Center top 10 level play for Conpsion to generate a touchdown. Like it would be
33:34so so hard. And maybe that's maybe that is just like being um too biased towards what my eyes are seeing, but his role in
33:41the offense looks like the most difficult to access a ceiling. The floor is okay. Uh I think he had a game two
33:47weeks ago with one catch for seven yards. So maybe the floor is not even that good.
33:53>> I am inclined to agree with you.
33:55>> Uh all right, Tampa Bay Carolina Baker Mayfield did return to practice. We will have him here. Hubard 6700 again just I
34:03mean he's basically like he's basically got Christian McAffy's role with like slight like he he is the I mean Jir Gibbs' role uh on the Carolina Panthers
34:13like we had him on the the ship chasing pickum last week and it was like man he's really doing it two and a half
34:19yards at a time. He's they're just really giving this dude the ball. Uh Bucky Irving very very interesting here.
34:26$6,100 on DraftKings. 61-9 snap split last week with Kenneth Gainwell. I I think Buccaneers gave Kenneth Gainwell a lot of money, but
34:36man, they have not gotten very much return on that investment. He he's had very very little to offer the the the the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I I I
34:47assume I mean you are you're my lead Bucky correspondent. I assume you're viewing this as a good spot for him.
34:53>> Oh, I love this spot for him. I mean, he's coming off an 81% snap rate game.
34:58Some Some are saying Kenny Gainwell was one of the worst picks on the board.
35:01>> They are. I I'm hearing it. Yeah.
35:04>> Yeah. Um Well, I'll come back around. Uh yeah, expect Baker Mayfield to be back in the lineup this week and that's huge for
35:11Bucky because it's just going to it's just going to reduce the pressure uh that opposing defenses put on the run game because like he just does not have
35:19a lot of space to operate in the condensed Jaylen Daniels offense. And then Jaylen Daniels is completely allergic to checking down. Like watching
35:27these Bucks games, every single time Bucky gets out in a route, it's like he's open. Jaylen Daniels is like, "No, I'm going to scramble around. I'm going
35:34to scramble around. I'm going to throw in complete Booker." Um Baker will take those checks. So I'm I'm expecting like based on Buckyy's route rate
35:43and his general like four or five targets a week. like add an extra two, three checkdowns on top of kind of the couple
35:53of screens they throw him intentionally.
35:55Um, but he's only been getting the first three stuff with Jaylen Daniels cuz he just does not check down. So, uh, I like
36:00Bucky quite a bit in this spot. Um, I like Chuba, of course, uh, as well on the other side. Uh, I think that the
36:09pricing gap between them is pretty, uh, effective in terms of delineating the difference in projection between them.
36:16So, yeah, I'm I'm I'm in on the spot.
36:18This is all assuming Baker plays. If it's Jaylen Daniels again, I probably have only interest in the Carolina side.
36:24Um, but with Baker back, I have interest in in a lot of this game.
36:31I I'm I'm probably a little bit less interested in the game overall just because it feels like Carolina is a team
36:38that likes to put a strangle hold on games if possible. Like they're they're fine getting in the mud. Dude, what what
36:44happened to Chris Godwin Jr.? I I mean, he got he got with Mark Andrews.
36:50>> Yeah. H like I I was just kind of going through stuff like like reddraft rankings and stuff for this week and I
36:56was like I actually had no idea how because I I wasn't drafting a ton of Chris Godma Jr. so it's not affecting me
37:02in terms of like setting my weekly lineups or anything and he never projects that well so I don't really have to think about him. But I was like
37:09man this guy has really been one of the worst players uh in in the National Football League.
37:16his best his best game this year is three for 46 as like a just a total full-time player. I I mean I it's just
37:24it's completely it's completely wild. Um I'm I'm >> This team has nothing on the outside. I I know a lot of people love him. Some
37:33even say he was thriving. I'm He had he saw 29 targets um in three games with Jaylen Daniels.
37:41Do you know how many yards he converted those 29 targets into? probably like seven >> 98 98 yards on 29 targets. Like so like
37:51I just I I I mean I understand a lot of that's on the quarterback and I get that earning volume is a skill, but like I I
37:59really do feel just from an eye test perspective that I has been earning all this volume based largely on the fact
38:06that like they have Kad and tight end who had the most Kotten line of all time this week which was 41 routes, one
38:12target. Um, and then they he doesn't check down to the running backs ever.
38:17So, it's like they they only throw to the receivers. The other side is Chris Godwin. He just mentioned is turbowashed. So, it's like, yeah, like I
38:24can earn a lot of targets, but there's just no juice on this team. And and I is the best option on it, but I don't think
38:31he's a great option. And I think part of the reason that this offense was kind of bad, even with Baker Mayfield, is they
38:36just don't have a lot of gas on this offense outside of Bucky Irving. Um, so I I don't know. I think I think I like a
38:45totally fine play with Baker because I think the target chair is gonna project really well. Um, but I don't think he's
38:50a superstar and I think Buckyy's a I would be I'd be totally into Bucky. I'd be fine playing Baker honestly. And then
38:57if Baker plays like the the Carolina passing game is way more fun because they're just more likely to fight back and so that'd be positive for McMillan
39:04and Coker. But you know they're taking away the fun pricing on McMillan and Coker real fast. 7100 and 6100 is a
39:11tough ask. I think it's fine.
39:14>> I think it's fine, but it's a tough pill to swallow.
39:17>> Yeah, I I agree. I like Coker I'm I would be into playing and I think he will get owned this week, but it is it's
39:24like man guy is guy's expensive.
39:29>> I mean I think I just have a hard time wide receiver too.
39:32>> Yeah. Like I mean maybe his price is wide receiver one.
39:36I I mean I I think I just have a hard time like adjusting expectations fast enough on players that I like. It's like
39:42it's actually easier for me to be like stupid Isaiah likely. I hate this guy.
39:46Oh, he's like god now. All right, fine.
39:49I I've adjusted. I've changed my priors.
39:51But like when you like a guy and then he hits like I I had posted my dynasty ratings update yesterday and someone
39:59immediately was like, "Why is Jaylen Coker still so low?" And I was like, >> "Yeah, >> no, you're right. Like I have him way
40:04too low." and like immediately moved him up. Like I I it's like yeah, he actually should be a $6,100 wide receiver. He
40:10should probably be higher than that. He should probably be right next to T.
40:12Higgins. Um it's just like hard for me, I think, to like wrap my head around Jaylen Coker's ascent into just being a
40:20top 20 wide receiver for the rest of the season, but he he totally has earned that.
40:27>> Uh all right, let's move on now to Denver, Arizona. And I regret to inform you. I I I actually insanely regret to
40:37inform you that I will be playing Jaylen Waddle with my own money this week.
40:42>> Uh how how is it possible that Bo Nicks is this bad?
40:47>> How how how is it possible? I I like of of I mean this is a stat that's going around that everyone knows but of the
40:55since they started tracking air yards he is 701 out of 701 in terms of overall average depth of target this season this
41:03cannot possibly persevere there if if Bo Nicks loses this game at Arizona looking like [ __ ] again like I don't even know
41:13who the Broncos backup quarterback is.
41:15It's probably like Teddy Bridgewwater. I I have no idea. But like it it can't it can't continue. This this has to be a
41:22Jaylen Waddle 12 target game.
41:26>> Like I I mean a lot of his like peripheral metrics that aren't like yards or points are fine.
41:36It's just like Bo Nicks has been such a disaster uh that it's really killed this whole offense. I will be playing Jaylen Waddle
41:44here.
41:46I don't feel good about it.
41:48The real question is, >> no, I won't. I won't.
41:53>> Okay. [laughter] >> I will not play JK Dobbins. No, no, >> no. I was asking you to play Bo Knicks.
41:59>> Oh, no. I mean, Peter will. Peter, that was the first thing Peter said on the SW cast was, "Oh, I spot for Bicks." I
42:06think I think if I'm playing Waddle, I'm just gonna fully go for it because if to play like for Waddle to smash,
42:17Nicks has to do something. He has to throw the ball effectively to Jaylen Wadd. And then
42:24like I I I think that he's so cheap and the matchup is really strong. What's What's their team total? I haven't
42:33looked. I imagine it's kind of decent this week if I had to guess.
42:37>> Uh game total of game total of 44 and a half.
42:40>> 44. So then it's going to be >> So then it's it's going to be 24 and a half team total.
42:46>> Uh well here I can I can pull >> 24 and a half and 19 and a half adds up to 44.
42:51>> Yeah, there you go. 20 24 and a half 39% base rush rate. Uh the inputs for Jaylen model 25% target share 25% market share
42:59touchdowns 64% catch rate leading up to 14 PPR points.
43:05>> I'm just saying we got a quarterback >> with a 24 and a half team total at 5K.
43:12Like that's that's something.
43:16>> It's something. And theoretically theoretically Bicks will run. I mean that is that is one of the things >> they will theoretically run. Yeah. I I
43:25don't know that that I buy that the ankle is a major issue. But yeah, I don't play I'm not playing Dobbins.
43:30Jonah Coleman's coming off IR this week.
43:32I don't think that like there's going to be a huge role for Jonah Coleman, but I think he will take like just enough to
43:39like dock the JK Dobbins projection by a couple of points because his work's coming, I think, more from Dobbins than it is from Harvey. Dobbins has been
43:47awful. Just awful all year. Uh, so yeah, Nicks Waddle. I'm doing one Nick Waddle lineup. It won't be a successful lineup,
43:56but I'm doing it.
43:59>> I, you know, I mean, look, I I probably spent my money on worse things over time, but it's hard to think of one.
44:05>> I spent my money on way worse things.
44:06Jaylen Wadd every other freaking year of his career.
44:08>> Yeah, Jaylen. Jaylen Wadd. So, I don't think Jeremiah I don't think Jeremiah Love is going to play.
44:15that I would have been comfortable deploying $5,000 Tyler Algier except they just gave Jeremiah Love's role to Bam Knight. So now they're both totally
44:23unplayable.
44:24>> Who's who's not only better than Tyler Algier, but is better than Jeremiah Love >> apparently. Apparently better than than Yeah. Which then become I mean this is
44:31like a a reddraft thing, but this then becomes a huge problem for Jeremiah Love when he returns from this ankle injury
44:36because Bam Knight has played so well that the coaches aren't going to be like, "Okay, well you don't get to play
44:40anymore at all." So he gets like 10 ceremonial snaps per game that directly come from Jeremiah Love and then it becomes the the absolute worst backfield
44:49in the history of the National Football League. It becomes Packersque at that point. I >> I think it'll get resolved pretty quick,
44:56but I I definitely could see a world where the first week back for Jeremiah was like, well, like we have to have the
45:01Son of the Night drive.
45:03>> Have to. Yeah. So, on the the Arizona side of the game, I I have to admit I did get swept up in in Michael Wilson
45:11mania. Um, it turns out he's still very much Michael Wilson, which I find I find very surprising, but it turns out it's
45:18just as easy for him to go 4 for 40 as it is for him to go, you know, 11 for 117, um, or whatever. Now, if you wanted
45:27to totally say the last two weeks are kind of an aberration, Arizona's gonna have to chuck here. Whatever. Whatever.
45:33I I could I could see playing Michael Wilson as like a legit like two to five percent owned guy. I nothing about this
45:40spot like screams to me uh it's a Michael Wilson jams and he actually probably would draw the PS2 coverage here, right? Because
45:48>> is PS2 going to play?
45:50>> I mean, he's not on the IR, so I I mean, I'm not grinding Broncos practice reports for their defensive backs, but
45:57like he's not on the IR, so he he will be eligible to play at some point.
46:01>> Okay. I I will be grinding the Broncos practice sports for this game because I I do want to play Michael Wilson. Like
46:05the XFP profile is still really strong.
46:07I can't imagine he's on the Bone model.
46:10Um >> limited limited in practice Wednesday.
46:12>> Oh, limited when Oh, so he is going to play.
46:16That matters to me. Um my my my desire to play Michael Wilson will be influenced by Pastor Tain's final game status. I I am worried about
46:28Pastor Tan. Uh if Pastor Dan does play, that makes I mean McBride's gotten to the price point where no one's even going to play him
46:36anymore. So I'm kind of interested in that. Um that that'd be it. It'd be it's it's mostly just Wadd is the guy I want
46:44to play here.
46:45>> Yeah. Yeah. I I I don't know. I don't know how we ended up here with $5,500 Jaylen Waddle being a plug your nose
46:51play, but uh there we are. We are we are plugging our narrows. All right. Game of the week. The Green Bay Packers
46:58traveling to play in the dome against the Detroit Lions. 53 and a half point total, higher than every other game of
47:04the slate by three. Gibbs Infinity. I I'll say this, if Gibbs does actually show up as 18%, I I mean I I'll take
47:12some money out. Uh I I'll I'll get a second mortgage on my house to play more. There's there's no chance. Uh St.
47:19Brown then becomes like an insanely good leverage play. There actually is an interesting wrinkle here where Love ends
47:28up so much more owned than Jared Goff because he is $800 less expensive and because the Love Golden thing just builds itself. Watson is also, you know,
47:38a better play >> correspondingly than Jameson Williams.
47:42So, Love Golden or Love Watson with the the the Lions bring back ends up like so much more owned than the um than the
47:50Goff St. Brown stuff that like go St.
47:54Brown Gibbs Golden is like a really unique way to play this game. I think >> I think you've nailed it on the head. Um
48:02yeah, there's there's a gazillion different iterations of this stack.
48:07All of them have a ton of upside.
48:11Just very obviously the most common one will be love golden one of Gibbs or St.
48:17Brown. That's just going to be the easiest way to do it. you get your superstar Lion, you get the cheaper quarterback, you get the cheaper of his
48:24two receivers who projects just as well, if not better. Um, and then like Leaport is a great play, but there's a lot of
48:32other kind of tight ends and you know, J Mo is is up and down. Like that's just going to be the comfy way to do it is
48:39love Colon, one of Gibbs or St. Brown.
48:41Um, so I think that like unlike the Cardinals Lions game where kind of like
48:48everyone was megaowned and there were no like kind of ways to cuz it was like it was like a bunch of megaowned
48:58good projecting pieces and then like horribly projecting pieces outside of that. This game I do think at least has some ways to not get off of ownership
49:07cuz every all the main participants are going to be owned, but to at least change your the ownership of your stack
49:14from like 30 to 40% owned guys to like 15 to 20% owned guys and just kind of reversing it and playing like the
49:26slightly more uncomfortably priced players who still have really high ceilings. Probably the move. So like you know you go Goff Jam Mo Leaporta Watson
49:37or or Gooff JO Laa Jacobs or or even you do play one of Gibbs in Almond Rob but then you uh but you do it with Goff and
49:45you mix in one of J Mo or Leaporta and you use like Jacobs or Craft or Watson instead of Golden like it's going to be
49:52at least slightly different and then you just kind of figure out ways to get different elsewhere. So, I I think this
49:56game um I I find it less paralyzing than I did the Arizona Detroit one a couple weeks ago. Um I think that there's just
50:04kind of so many good options where both teams are like relatively concentrated, but there are still four obviously
50:15playable skill players on both sides plus the two quarterbacks. like, you know, it's it's still tough because everyone's going to play this game so
50:22much that every single combination of sack is going to be played and you're probably going to have to hit the precisely correct one if you're going to
50:29win this way. Like, and so it's just kind of like up to you to decide, I guess, you know, what's the what's the
50:36easier path to success? another game beating this game or you picking the right combination of players from a game where everyone is going to be trying to pick
50:47the right combination of players. I I I hope like you said earlier, I hope Lamar plays because that makes this game uh
50:54still probably the most owned on the slate, but like it it at least gives you an alternative game that has just as
51:00high of a ceiling.
51:03>> Yeah. Yeah. That's really the only way that you end up without Matthew Golden 45%, the the combo ownership of the
51:10quarterbacks being 35%, Gibbs being 40%, St. Brown being 20. I mean, you you always get the residual of Jameson Williams ownership in these huge spots
51:18where it's like should be 8%, his projected ownership is 12% and he actually ends up owned 18%. Leaporta and Craft will kind of get lost between the
51:27cracks. People will play Isaac Tesla. I guess I mean I guess we should talk about Josh Jacobs because is there a
51:34chance that Lafleur gets back to playing Lafleur ball where I mean we know he wants to run the ball. All these Shanny
51:42guys want to run the ball all the all the West like they they would prefer to do this. You obviously can't do that
51:48when Marshawn Lloyd, Caleb Johnson and Pier Strong and Chris Brooks are your running backs. They get Jacobs back this week. Are they going to be are they
51:55going to try and be like negative PE in in this game?
52:00I mean, they've only they've already been neutral PE all year. Largely, what's driven their pass rate is that their defense has been pretty bad and
52:06their running game is so bad that their expected pass rate is necessarily high because they keep ending up in second and 11 every time they call a run play.
52:13So, if if Jacobs gets you to second and seven more often, then maybe they can they call that second down run that's
52:22been staring at Matt Lafur like the Green Goblin Bask all year. I I I'm of the camp that they are going to be more
52:28runheavy, but I don't think it will be as dramatic as people think because >> probably not in this game.
52:33>> Not in this game. I also just don't think Josh Shake is that good. He's old.
52:37He was inefficient last year. He's coming off of a long break from even getting to practice with the team. Their offensive line is still quite poor. Like
52:46Josh Jacobs is a way better running back than Lloyd and Strong and Caleb Johnson, all these goofs. I I think he will
52:52obviously help their run game. I I just don't think it's like Josh Jacobs comes back and now their run game is awesome.
52:57I think they're still going to have run game issues. If I was to set the line at Josh Jacobs yards per carry this season,
53:04I would set it like 4.1. Like I don't think he's going to be some amazing revelation for their offense. So, I
53:11still think they're going to have this a lot of the same systemic issues that force them to pass despite being kind of
53:17a neutral PRE team anyway. Um, so I'm not that worried that Matthew Gold and Christian Watson are just going to fall
53:22off a cliff. But that's also, you know, some some element of self- serving bias because I have really enjoyed this Matthew Golden season and I wanted to
53:31continue.
53:32>> Yeah. Yeah. Golden. Golden to me I I mean there's not a projected ownership they could create that would get me to
53:38abandon my special boy.
53:40>> Well, guess what am I going to do? I'm going to spend my Sunday rooting against Matthew Golden? Like no, I'm not going
53:45to do that. He's in like all my FFPC teams and he's in all my basketball teams. So, he may as well be on my DFS
53:51teams.
53:52>> Sure. Wish my co-managers were more woke to Matthew Golden in the FFPC. That much that much I I can >> But like, how did we not get more of
53:59him? Cuz we're two votes. I don't understand how this happened.
54:03>> Well, Josh DS was always available. So, so sometimes you were able to be you were able to be swayed. Mia Lemon was
54:11available, so that was where Pat's vote would go.
54:14>> Oh, yeah. Sure. Glad we were drafting Mai Lemon over Matthew Golden. That worked out well.
54:20>> You know, and then Peter, I mean, Peter famously only had one opinion, so he never really cared.
54:24>> He doesn't have player type.
54:26>> Yeah.
54:26>> Yeah. All right.
54:27>> We should we should have been able to get him. We We don't have him on nearly enough of our combined teams. I mean, I
54:32I have him on like basically pro probably like on 60% of my non- ship chasing teams, >> right?
54:40>> But like I wish that we had them. I mean, our ship chasing teams are doing great this year, but like imagine how
54:44well they could be doing. Like, I think every team is three and three or better, but every team could be so much better
54:50if we had Matthew Golden on it.
54:51>> It's actually true. Yeah, our portfolio is actually kind of sick this year. We don't have any dead teams yet, which is
54:56>> is every team is still alive, but like, man, if every team had Matthew Golden, >> God, that'd be good.
55:04>> You hate to see it. Uh, all right, man.
55:06Well, we got to find an answer to this.
55:08the Rams game against the Las Vegas Raiders. Is there a secondary beneficiary in the Rams offense with no Devonte Adams? I guess the the easy
55:19answer is that it just continues to be Tyler Higgby and Kairen Williams. You had the great stat about the backfield share for the Rams last week, which
55:27actually resulted in a way that was very funny because it did not benefit Kairen Williams. It benefited Blake Cor with his first ever. This was my This was my
55:34call and we were on Shiftcast and you ended up not swapping, but you were like, "If you were to swap onto
55:38something, what should you swap on to?"
55:40I was like, "The best thing you could swap on to if you're in a bad spot is Blake Cororm because if he scores, it's
55:45coming right out of Kairen's pocket.
55:46It's coming right out of Puka's pocket."
55:48Um, I I did that actually on one team and I I got a I got a minash on the spy lineup from a terrible early slate
55:58because I I pulled Puka and Kirn out insert a little bit of Blake Cororum.
56:03Um, so yeah, that's that was fun. But anyways, in terms of the terms of this game, really fun game. Probably if Lamar
56:11does not play, I think it's the second most fun game. Um, I'll start this at a really weird place. What do you think
56:18the expected ownership is going to be on Kannata Mumfield this week?
56:22>> Uh really low. Yeah. No one because >> what's what's his price? Is it 3K?
56:27>> Uh 3,200. My guess >> my guess is that >> playing it. Let's go.
56:33>> I don't think anyone any [clears throat] projection provider, which is where all this stuff floats from. I don't think anyone will be so
56:42confident in their reading of the situation to give him, you know, an 18 19% target share. I think they'll give, you know, a little bit to Parkinson, a
56:52little bit more, you know, month give Mumfield to I don't know here. What's our what's what's the base target share that Ron the Sims has? Uh 11% there. Um,
57:02you give a little bit to Daniels, a little bit to Atwell, a little bit to Whittington, a little bit extra to
57:07Parkinson, a little bit to Davis Allen, you know, one play to Max Claire, you give a bump to Kirin, you give a bump to
57:13Corm, and then all of a sudden then all of a sudden you run out, you basically run out of >> Yeah.
57:19>> All that makes sense. That's cool.
57:20That's fine. Uh, if Christian Kirk is more like Mumfield, that's going to be a big no for me. I'm playing Mumfield over
57:27Kirk.
57:27>> He will be. He will be. And I'm actually with you because the thing that I will not go with is I will not go with the
57:36Parkinson stuff. I I think we have we've got six games.
57:38>> Parkinson ran way fewer routes than Higgby. That was like total varian.
57:42>> Exly. They they play different like the way the Rams offense works is Parkinson and Davis Allen play a different role
57:50than Terren Ferguson and Tyler Higgby.
57:52It's why it's why Higgby was completely irrelevant last year, you know, in in in all of their 13 personnel stuff. like
57:58Higgby did not factor into this at all and signed like the the a two-year $8 million like partially guaranteed contract, but I mean because they
58:09planned on having Terence Ferguson have this huge role in the offense. Um and Parkinson and Davis Allen are kind of like it's like a Mayor Bowers thing
58:17honestly. It really is where where they're they're functionally not even related um to one another.
58:22>> He's in the T for a role.
58:24>> Yes. Um, >> Mumfield, >> I will play I will play both Higgby and Mayor probably just on the basis of like
58:30I'm going to want to spend up a lot in different places. I'm going to need to find a way to spend down and and those
58:36two seem like >> half decent tight ends to play in the 3K range. I I think I'll have a lot of like
58:43really discount mini correlations in this game where I'll have like Mumfield and Mayor or like uh you know something like that. Uh the the the Trey Tucker
58:54hitting last week was super tilting because I did play a Kurt Cousins Trey Tucker uh lineup and everything else in the lineup sucked. And so now it's like
59:02I have to wait four more weeks for Trey Tucker's price to come back down and for him to have another 25point game and
59:09hope that I can play it in a lineup that actually does something. Um I I think that yeah, like obviously Puka, Kairen totally fine plays. I think
59:18Cororum is always a really interesting play in DFS because you're you're going to have so much ownership on Puka and Kirn and Cororm is both like quite
59:26capable of getting 15 16 points at a really small price but the way that he scores it is just so detrimental to both
59:32Puka and Kairen and Stafford. I mean, he caught the receiving touchdown this time, but usually detrimental to Stafford, but I think he's he's just
59:40always a guy that is a way better play than is captured by like his specific projection whenever the rest of his Rams
59:47skill players are really owned. Like specifically as a late swap option for bad lineups, but even if you wanted to do it as like a just a building a lineup
59:55that intends to fade the rest of the Rams, I think it's viable.
59:58>> Yeah. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you there. I I mean I think Higgby as like Stone Chalk like I don't even care. He
60:05just is like floor of floor of eight. Uh he hasn't even he hasn't even scored yet, right? Or he scored he did. No, he
60:12did score. He scored in the one game that literally no person on earth could have benefited from because it was the
60:17game that TF Ferg injured his ankle in.
60:20Um is is the only game that he has scored in. So last week, Jacob, huge shipper in the show that we built,
60:26finished uh 1,098th in the DK Millie out of 158,000 entrance. Chuck, Walker, Hubard, Alave,
60:34Vele, Jeremy, likely Luther Burden III, and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers defense. We have to try and uh revisit that success
60:46here this week. Um so I will I will give you the first pick. Let's uh let's go.
60:52Let's do it. Um, all right. I will I'm trying to figure out who the heck my gold star play is going to be this week.
61:00I feel like I don't have enough information on some of the games, but I'll I'll uh I'll make it Bucky Irving.
61:07I I'll make it Bucky Irving. I'll I'll play the hits. I'll be loyal to my man.
61:11>> I think I think that's a I think that is a very good gold star play. So, I am going to give us Jamir Gibbs just
61:19because I think all the best lineups this week are going to feature one mister Jir Gibbs. Um, >> yeah, I I'm
61:28>> good play. Good play.
61:29>> I just think you I just think you have to play him. I think he's too good. I think this is
61:33>> peak CMC David Johnson, Levon Bell stuff. I just don't I just don't think you fade him.
61:38>> All right. Uh, I will go with Sam Leaporta. Uh, we'll build out the rest of this game. I I think Jonathan Ganon
61:45defense is like all about don't give up the big play. Make them throw it underneath. I don't think this is a J Mo
61:50week. I hope I'm wrong because I have decent exposure to him, but I don't think it's a JMO week. I don't think we
61:55can really afford Gibbs and St. Brown.
61:57So, I'll pick Leaporta as the second member of what I'm kind of anticipating will be alliance double stack here.
62:03>> All right, we'll go Leaporta and then I will put Matthew Golden in this lineup as our as our correlated piece there. So
62:12you might think like, oh this is like so chalky. This actually by playing Bucky and by playing Leaporta, we have already
62:19gotten um a smidgen weird like already we are kind of outside because the the combo ownership of Gibbs mayor or Gibbs
62:28Higgby is going to be huge because that's the obvious way to to save salary.
62:33>> All right. Well, I will save salary. Um, we've we've leveraged we we've decided the Higgby is not going to be a part of
62:40this lineup or I guess we haven't yet.
62:41We could play him in the flex, but I'm I'm now kind of deciding the Higgby won't be a part of this lineup cuz I
62:45will play Canada Mumfield.
62:48>> Wow. Wow. Canada. So, you actually did save a bunch of salary which is uh keeping me from having to jam in Jacobe
62:56Lane. So, I will do the thing that we talked about earlier in the show and we'll show you guys how difficult this
63:00is. I'm going to slot Jared Goff in here instead of of love. I actually after starting to build this lineup I think
63:08we're going to get to like >> we might get we might get to like 8% Jared Goff because it is like you that
63:15$800 really does matter.
63:18>> It really matters. All right, let's let's put in a defense here. See how much play we're working with.
63:23>> Um >> slot in the Arizona Cardinals. Easiest easiest choice I've ever made putting the Arizona Cardinals at home against Bon in this lineup.
63:33>> Okay. Uh, I'm I'll go ahead and put in Brillin Allen. We'll try and make this a three running back lineup and
63:41then see what that leaves us at our third wide receiver slot.
63:45>> Um, >> oh yikes. We might have to take Brayan Allen out of the lineup, but we'll >> No, no, we're not we're not taking we're
63:51not taking Brayan Allen out because I very much want to reproduce how good our lineup was last week. So, we are
63:58actually going to do the thing that makes that that everyone else is going to do. We're gonna put Jordan Love in
64:04this team. And at wide receiver, we are going to take my >> very reluctant gold star play. We are going to put $5,500 [laughter]
64:14Jaylen Wadd in here. So, Jordan Love, Bucky Irving, Jir Gibbs, Matthew Golden, Canada Mumfield, Jaylen Wadd, Sam Leaporta, Brailen Allen, and the Arizona
64:23Cardinals defense. Uh, as always, if we win $1 million, I will give one of you commenters $10,000 American dollars. And uh, honestly, dude, this team is this
64:34team is good. It is not going to sim It'll sim okay. It won't sim too great because Mumfield doesn't project that
64:43well. But other than that, these are all very strong projecting options.
64:49It's a nice team. You love to You love to see it.
64:52>> Fun team.
64:53>> All right. uh tell the people what they can get at thinking about thinking and uh we will we will be on our way.
65:00>> Yeah, different kind of week this week.
65:01I I went off the beaten path largely because I mean how often does your team fire their GM? So I wrote a
65:09uh a retrospective stepbystep uh analysis of the Chris Ballard era uh this week on Think About Thinking. So for anyone who's like a total sicko can
65:21enjoy that. And then >> it was a good read. I enjoyed it.
65:24>> Thank you. I appreciate that. Uh and then to to make up for, you know, kind of spending a lot of my typical
65:29Hitchhiker's Guide time watching that and kind of not having a chance to do a lot of my normal midweek content, uh I
65:37kind of put everything together into one piece. I I I called it the take purge, which was just stealing ideas from other
65:42podcasts. Um but I just kind of wrote up like where I stand on some of the key questions for every NFL team at the
65:49mid-season point. It's probably all you'll have for me this week, but I think you have like 27,000 words combined between those to read. And then
65:57uh I'll I'll probably be spending most of the rest of my week uh taking in some concerts. I got geese tonight. I got
66:02Phoebe Brides on Saturday. Uh and then I'll be locked back in for football on Sunday.
66:08>> All right, lock it in. We will see you guys back on Sunday. Make sure to like the video, subscribe to the channel, and
66:13uh good luck this