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Players We're Afraid to Be Wrong About - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/2

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55 min
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Sep 2, 2026
Published
Wed, September 2, 2026
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D.J. MooreJayden DanielsColston LovelandGeorge KittleJa'Marr ChaseTee HigginsA.J. BrownAlec PierceBreece HallBrian RobinsonBrian Thomas Jr.Carnell TateChristian McCaffreyChuba Hubbard
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A.J. Brown

PositiveValue53:02

When asked if it's crazy to take AJ Brown over JJ or CD, the source says 'Not crazy, no. I don't think so,' indicating AJ Brown is a reasonable first-round pick choice over those alternatives.

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Alec Pierce

NegativeRole47:27

The source states he thinks Alec Pierce 'is going to be very good at the Alec Pierce role,' a deliberately vague statement that suggests uncertainty about his actual role or value; the phrasing is unconvincing and the source doesn't elaborate on specific expectations.

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Breece Hall

PositiveValue47:18

Listed as a 'my guy' pick with the source expressing bullish sentiment; positioned as a later-round target with good value relative to his talent, though the source humorously notes 'the jets always work out' with some skepticism about the team's execution.

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Brian Robinson

NegativeUsage0:18

The Athletic is reporting that fantasy managers may not like how many goal-line carries Brian Robinson gets; the source notes that if the backup (a prototypical bruiser) is used at the goal line, it differentiates Robinson from Jameer Gibbs, who has no such competition, and limits his touchdown upside despite his potential to lead the team in rushing.

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Brian Thomas Jr.

NegativeBust43:29

Despite finishing as WR7 in his rookie year with 1400+ receiving yards after being first-round drafted, the source is terrified about his 2024 outlook and lists him as a 'my guy' he's afraid to be wrong about; notes a dramatic flip in perception where he's now viewed as an 'undraftable loser' compared to Parker Washington's rising stock, suggesting significant regression risk or role concerns.

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Carnell Tate

NegativeInjury0:14

Carnell Tate did not practice on Tuesday while working out stiffness; Robert Sala's comment about this is described as 'not the thing you want to hear,' signaling concern about the wide receiver's availability or readiness for week one.

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Christian McCaffrey

NegativeProjection50:09

Listed ahead of Puka Nakua in the source's first-round ranking; positioned as a safer alternative to Puka at pick 4, suggesting higher confidence in his availability and production relative to the risk profile of Puka.

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Chuba Hubbard

PositiveRole0:15

Chuba Hubbard is back and will lead the backfield for the Panthers, positioning him as the primary running back with Jonathan Brooks dealing with soreness and durability concerns.

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Colston Loveland

NegativeRole26:00

Loveland is part of Chicago's new receiving trifecta alongside Rome Odunze and Luther Burks, representing the Bears' shift away from DJ Moore. The source notes Chicago inherited Moore but didn't scheme him to his strengths, instead pivoting to this new group.

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NegativeRole47:27

Mentioned as receiving significant love and consideration as a 'my guy' candidate, positioned around the same draft area as Tyler Warren; the source notes there's not enough war (attention/hype) for Warren, implying Loveland is getting more draft capital despite similar value profiles.

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D.J. Moore

NegativeBust22:03

The source expresses skepticism about DJ Moore's fantasy value despite his trade to Buffalo and pairing with Josh Allen. While acknowledging camp highlights have been strong and he's leading the team in targets in practice, the source worries about his age (29) and declining athleticism; he didn't break tackles last year the way it was his trademark, raising concerns about whether the situation will translate to fantasy production. The source draws a cautionary parallel to Allen Robinson's later-career move to the Rams, where camp buzz didn't materialize into results, and notes that despite being paid significant money and traded for with good capital, the source remains skeptical and hasn't drafted him.

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PositiveValue24:42

DJ Moore's ADP sits around 22–25 (fifth round), and the source acknowledges his upside as a top-10 WR if he succeeds with Buffalo. Joe Brady, the new Bills head coach and former OC in Carolina when Moore was in his prime, believes he's getting 2021 DJ Moore and has praised his fit in the scheme. Moore has no target competition in Buffalo and could be a league-winner if the situation clicks, making his current draft price potentially undervalued relative to his ceiling.

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NegativeBust24:42

The source expresses concern about DJ Moore at age 29 despite Buffalo's trade capital investment and his top-10 WR upside; last year he didn't break tackles as his trademark, marking a decline in production. Chicago's poor usage (only 21% slants/crossers despite that being his strength) and Ben Johnson's inability to maximize him raise questions about whether he can return to 2021 form. His 2024 was his worst year ever, unlike Stefan Diggs who had solid yardage before his Buffalo trade. The source is worried about being wrong if Moore hits as a WR1, but remains skeptical given the situation and age concerns.

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PositiveValue28:13

DJ Moore's ADP has settled at 22–26 across platforms (fifth rounder on Sleeper/Yahoo, sixth on ESPN), below the source's internal rankings. The source has transitioned from being completely out on Moore to actively trying to stack him with Josh Allen in drafts, viewing the pairing as a way to capture upside at a discount.

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Dalton Kincaid

NegativeRole25:30

Kincaid is mentioned as an interesting option in the Buffalo offense alongside DJ Moore, part of the broader discussion of target distribution and receiving weapons around Josh Allen.

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Garrett Wilson

NegativeValue46:00

Available at ADP 410 on Sleeper and 501 on Yahoo; the source is very bullish and says he's well better than where he's being drafted, but notes that at the 2–3 turn (where he's being taken in some drafts), he's a smidge too high because you'd be passing on George Pickens (top-12 WR last year on better offense) or DeVante Smith (on much better offense); still a good player but odds favor those alternatives at that draft position.

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George Kittle

PositiveRole0:10

George Kittle is traveling with the 49ers to Australia for week one and has had a couple of great practices, suggesting he may start the season with production despite expected limited snap counts early; the source notes that if drafted in the eighth round, streaming the position for a few weeks while waiting for Kittle to ramp up is a viable strategy given his ceiling.

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NegativeProjection0:11

The source expects George Kittle to be active in week one but with limited snap counts; there are many other better options than Kittle for week one starts, and the draft cost (typically eighth round) combined with the slow start creates a dilemma where drafting him forces you to stream the position early or sacrifice another tier of talent.

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Ja'Marr Chase

NegativeInjury0:14

Jamar Chase is limited in practice but everything indicates he will be fine for week one; the source notes that if both he and Tee Higgins are not practicing, it's a mixed signal but both are expected to be available.

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PositiveProjection50:09

Assumed to be a top-3 pick (after Gibbs and Bijan) in the source's first-round analysis; positioned as a safer, more certain pick than Puka Nakua at pick 4.

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Jacob Saylors

NegativeRole0:09

Jacob Saylor is now the backup running back to Jameer Gibbs with Pacheco on injured reserve; Dan Campbell expressed confidence in Saylor, saying he knows the system and is a good backup, though the source notes this may be typical coach-speak and doesn't necessarily reduce the likelihood of Kareem Hunt signing.

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James Cook

NegativeProjection50:09

Grouped in a tier with Jonathan Taylor where the source gets 'really questionable' on their value; positioned below Christian McCaffrey, Almond Ra, and JSN but still ahead of Puka Nakua in the source's first-round ranking, suggesting mid-tier first-round consideration.

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Jayden Daniels

NegativeProjection32:32

Despite being mobile, Daniels' passing numbers last year were not spectacular; he had a couple of 20-point outings but was only a top-12 quarterback in one healthy game (QB six against Chicago); the source is concerned about the new offensive coordinator David Blau in his first year as a play-caller and whether he can match Cliff Kingsbury's fantasy production, citing the Philadelphia example where Kellen Moore's departure led to offensive decline.

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NegativeRole32:32

The Washington Commanders' offensive line is described as 'inoperable' and 'the worst I've ever seen the commanders offense in years' per Nikki Javola; additionally, new offensive coordinator Dan Quinn is moving away from Cliff Kingsbury's shotgun-heavy, college-friendly system toward more under-center looks, which limits play-action and run-game effectiveness and represents a significant scheme change that could hurt Daniels' fantasy production.

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NegativeProjection32:32

The source expresses concern that Jayden Daniels' rookie year was 'just right place, right time' and pure magic, potentially representing the best fantasy output he'll ever produce; he's currently going as QB six after being QB two or QB three last year, but camp reports from Washington are very negative.

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Jonathan Taylor

NegativeProjection50:09

Grouped in a tier with James Cook where the source gets 'really questionable' on their value; positioned below Christian McCaffrey, Almond Ra, and JSN but still ahead of Puka Nakua in the source's first-round ranking, suggesting mid-tier first-round consideration.

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Jonathon Brooks

NegativeInjury0:15

Jonathan Brooks missed practice due to general soreness; for a player who has had only one healthy season since high school, this is particularly concerning and raises questions about his durability heading into week one.

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Justin Fields

PositiveValue31:32

Fields has dropped significantly in ADP over the last two weeks and is getting cheaper and more affordable; the source notes he could turn into a league-winning type despite concerns about his quarterback ability, fitting the category of players who could bust, be fine, or be great.

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Kareem Hunt

NegativeRole0:09

Kareem Hunt visited the Lions last week but did not sign; the source questions how much Hunt has left and whether he fits the team's needs, suggesting the money probably doesn't add up and that the Lions' confidence in Jacob Saylor may be bringing down Hunt's market price.

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Khalil Shakir

NegativeInjury0:18

Khalil Shakir remains sidelined and did not participate in Tuesday's practice, continuing his absence from the Bills' receiving corps.

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MarShawn Lloyd

NegativeInjury0:16

Marshawn Lloyd suffered an injury and is expected to be sidelined; the source notes this is coming soon and adds to the Panthers' backfield injury woes.

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Parker Washington

PositiveBreakout43:49

Went in the third round of a $100K dynasty league; generating significant hype with many people 'calling their shot' for him in bold predictions, creating a perception flip where he's now the darling while Brian Thomas Jr. has become undraftable; the source notes this reversal is wild given Thomas's rookie dominance.

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Puka Nacua

NegativeInjury49:00

The source expresses significant concern about taking Puka at pick 4 (after Gibbs, Bijan, Jamar Chase) due to off-field allegations and lack of contract extension with the Rams; notes the NFL has him under review alongside Rashad Bateman; emphasizes the risk is not like a late-round dart throw but rather a first-round pick where losing him would create a massive hole similar to CMC's injury, potentially ending your season; would personally rather draft Christian McCaffrey, Almond Ra, JSN, and then Jonathan Taylor/James Cook tier before Puka.

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Rhamondre Stevenson

PositiveValue0:15

With Travon Henderson sidelined by a right ankle injury and not cleared for full participation, Ramondre Stevenson is positioned as a steal at his current ADP; the source's frustration over Henderson's injury status underscores Stevenson's elevated opportunity.

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Rome Odunze

NegativeRole26:00

Odunze is part of Chicago's new receiving trifecta alongside Colston Loveland and Luther Burks, representing the Bears' strategic pivot away from DJ Moore.

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Stefon Diggs

PositiveValue22:15

The source cites Stefon Diggs as a successful historical parallel to DJ Moore's current situation. Diggs was drafted around the sixth or seventh round after being traded to Buffalo from Minnesota, where he had finished as WR21 the prior year (1,017 receiving yards). The world was very down on Diggs at the time, similar to current DJ Moore sentiment, but the source was bullish on him and calls it one of his biggest wins ever, as Diggs finished as WR3 that season. The source uses this as evidence that a talented receiver paired with Josh Allen in an elite offense can overcome skepticism and deliver league-winning value.

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Tee Higgins

NegativeInjury0:14

Tee Higgins is tending to a heel contusion but it is not considered a major concern for week one; both he and Jamar Chase are limited in practice but everything indicates they will be fine.

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NegativeProjection0:19

Tee Higgins has been ranked as the number three wide receiver and has potential for 20 touchdown upside, though the source expresses concern about whether the Falcons will score enough touchdowns to support that ceiling.

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Terrance Ferguson

PositiveSleeper50:52

The source is bullish on Ferguson as a last-round dart throw with high upside potential; notes he hasn't done anything yet but sees a pathway for success given the opportunity in a great offense and believes he's a really good player; the Rams haven't added significant wide receiver depth, creating opportunity for Ferguson.

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Tucker Kraft

NegativeInjury42:54

Coming off an ACL injury with no prior return-from-ACL history; the source expresses fear about drafting him as a prime running back or wide receiver replacement, noting it's still a projection and unwilling to take the risk despite hoping he proves healthy and good for the NFL and Jordan Love.

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Tyler Warren

PositiveSleeper47:27

The source identifies Warren as a 'my guy' pick, noting he was in consideration as an obvious value throughout the offseason; positioned as a tight end available later in drafts with not enough attention, offering good upside relative to draft capital.

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Episode Transcript

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0:00The Megalabowl drafts are right around the corner. Do you have your spot secured?
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0:27Jointhefoot.com. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.
0:33Oh, welcome in. The Fantasy Footballers Podcast, Wednesday, September 2nd.
0:36Jason Moore is here. Mike, the Fantasy Hitman. I'm Andy Holloway.
0:39And as always, full ducers. Well, not as always, but today, we've got them all.
0:44Papa Josh back there in the middle. Al Borland doing most of the work.
0:48And then Falcons over there as well. Just smirking.
0:51The smirking. The smirking falcon. Welcome into the show.
0:54Great one. Smirking wearing a merkin. We've got players we're afraid to be wrong about today.
0:59Players we're afraid to be wrong about. There's a handful.
1:02I mean, you draw a line in the sand and you're trying to figure out what you're supposed to be doing.
1:09Dude, mine... I'm... We will get into it, but guys, I'm getting the heebie-jeebies on this guy.
1:14As in, you're afraid you're gonna be wrong? I'm afraid we're all gonna be wrong.
1:19Okay. On the guy that you are bringing up today?
1:22Yes. I don't even know who it is. So it's somebody that we all...
1:27That's how I feel about my dude. But if we're wrong about this, it's going to be a disaster.
1:33Oh, no. Yeah. All right. I'm excited to find out who yours is.
1:37Yeah. We've got the UDK. I did a little poll this morning.
1:4150-50 is about people with drafts in the past, drafts in the future.
1:45That's wild. So if you're not in there and you need help, and draft day is coming up, and I know we've done this for 12 years.
1:53I know... I get to see what happens every single year.
1:57And 95% of you wait until the last 10 seconds before your draft to figure out your plan.
2:03I know the way it works. It is human nature.
2:06It is. So take advantage of the opportunity right now.
2:09Go to ultimatedraftkit.com and pick it up. You'll have the app with you on draft day.
2:14You can go and make all... I've made all my player marks, and I did some more this morning for our upcoming draft in League of Record.
2:23Players I want to make sure I don't forget.
2:25Do you highlight Sailors? Sailor Jerry? I didn't. Oh, really?
2:29No, you're saying that because I have Jameer Gibbs.
2:31No, not just that. Just because... I was saying it because this is a guy that I think...
2:37I would say the vast majority of our listeners right now literally don't know who I'm talking about.
2:43And that's why... So do you highlight players that you don't know?
2:47Especially if you call them Sailor Jerry? Is that what you do in your draft?
2:51I'm saying you highlight players that are so easy to forget, especially the ones that are really down in ADP that you
2:58might think about grabbing with your last pick. No, he's not one of those.
3:03Yeah, he might not be. He might be... But Emmett Johnson is.
3:07Oh, absolutely. That, you know, some of these players that ADP is are not going to move.
3:12I mean, you were making the point this morning.
3:15We're... Is Claiborne on that list? He should be.
3:18Yeah. Yeah, for Minnesota. The biggest problem is that there's kind of like a couple different ways to think about this.
3:24All of these like maybe high value backup running backs are not necessarily going to get projected for stats that are going
3:31to make you notice them in terms of our rankings and where they show up.
3:36Right. But if you highlight them, these are great players like we talked about in the depth episode on the top tip, the tips and tricks episode.
3:45There are... It's very easy to know who's going to get the work on a number of these teams if players go down.
3:52Yeah. And just for full disclosure, Jacob Saylor is...
3:55Yes. Who you called Jerry this morning. Yeah, Saylor Jerry.
3:58Oh, is that why you said Jerry Saylor? No, but Jacob Saylor's a player you've never heard of, a player I had
4:05never heard of, and I, you know, we're pretty serious about football analysis.
4:09He is like the backup now to Jameer Gibbs with Pacheco gone.
4:13And they're like... Until Kareem Hunt signs. Sure. And he should.
4:16They hope Pacheco comes back this year. Did you see that?
4:20Yes. Yes. And I was like, oh my goodness.
4:23So, yeah, I mean... All it really means is Jameer Gibbs is going to get...
4:27Oh, gosh. A thousand touches this year. He could have 105% of the running back share.
4:32He's gonna die. That's what I... I don't know how he makes it through this season.
4:37Don't say such things. Jameer Gibbs will not get hurt this year.
4:41Oh, is that... Oh! Oh, is that a... It worked for you last year, but yeah.
4:46Did I say it with huge nerves? Yeah. Okay.
4:49What else is going on? Listener League. I will say this, yes.
4:53Talk about the Listener League. The Listener League... Genuine, genuine, genuine, genuine thank you to...
4:58The Foot Clan, it takes us so much time to go through all these submissions.
5:02And, you know, it's a... We make the league 14 teams so that we can have as many people as possible in there.
5:10There's still so few spots that are actually available.
5:13I'm going to be getting back to everybody today, whether you made it in, whether you didn't, whether you were close.
5:19It was like... I just... It's always like emotionally devastating to watch these awesome videos.
5:24I just edited a bunch of videos from like my kids' college applications.
5:28And I know the work that goes in and I'm watching it.
5:32I'm like, you did so much work. You're so cool.
5:35You know the show. And you didn't make it because there's just so few spots.
5:40So I'm going to be getting back to the people...
5:43We are like Harvard. Thank you. Oh, absolutely. This is a Harvard...
5:47This is an Ivy League league. It's an Ivy League.
5:50Yes. So thank you. We'll be getting back to those who are going to be playing in the listener league with us this week or this year.
5:59I will be getting back to you today. And if you're like, I don't know how I could possibly get in one
6:05of the spots, that's the winner of the Megalobol.
6:08They're in this year because they won last year.
6:11So that's always your chance if you're playing in the Megalobol win and you're in our listener league next year.
6:18Quick question of the day from Garrett in Texas.
6:20Having a debate with the boys, in your opinion, what percentage of fantasy is skill and knowing what you're doing and what percentage is just dumb luck?
6:29And I guess Kyle put a new article on the site that is literally titled, Is Fantasy Football Hard?
6:35I haven't read it yet, but he was talking about he's been sitting on it forever and worked hard on it.
6:42I have a slack reminder to go read that.
6:44I'm very curious. Coming off of my super duper champ year, the answer to that question is no.
6:50Oh my gosh. It's not. Mute his microphone. Not luck, huh?
6:54It's just skill plays. No, it's fantasy football hard.
6:56Oh, I see. Luck versus skill. Obviously, there is some luck involved.
7:00Of course. You cannot possibly predict injury. Because there's luck in the sport of football.
7:05Absolutely. Injuries. Yeah, injuries or a tipped ball. Just the shape of the football causes like when it bounces, you're not 100%
7:12sure where that ball is going to go. I will say this.
7:16There's a phrase that we used to say all the time around the office that we never really said on the show.
7:23I don't know why it was like a, it almost felt negative, but it's really not.
7:28And I say this in my life all the time and I believe this.
7:32I believe it takes pure skill to make the playoffs.
7:35In fantasy football, if you're skilled, you're going to make the playoffs.
7:39If you look at who makes the playoffs year after year after year in your league, it's going to be the better managers, period.
7:47And then it takes some luck to win the championship.
7:50Absolutely. When you're in the playoffs and you're going up against good teams and you've got, you know, one winning out.
7:57So I, I feel like take skill to make the playoffs takes luck to win the championship.
8:02Now you have a note to read. The article is fancy football hard by Kyle Borgannoni.
8:07But did you know the estimated reading time on that article is 17 minutes?
8:12I'm out. I'm out. Give me a TLDR. The TLDR is that the good habits of fantasy football are easy, but the sport is chaotic.
8:19Okay. Well, I don't need to read that. That's like an average.
8:23Number two? An average bathroom visit for you. Oh, that's a, that's a below average for him.
8:29Two things, sir. One, time-wise, you're correct. Two, I'm a slow reader.
8:32Okay. If it's 17 minutes on average, that's a 30 minute burger for me.
8:37So just to be clear, you're a slow reader, but you're not a slow number two.
8:42Oh, I am. Oh, okay. I'm just slow. You could, what, you should call Kyle while you're in the bathroom and have him read it to you.
8:50That's a great idea. Oh, goodness gracious. That's a great idea.
8:54Kyle, get ready. Kyle's FaceTime. All right. Oh, no.
8:57Let's talk news. News and notes from around the league.
9:00Well, the Lions did place Isaiah Pacheco on injured reserve.
9:03So he's out at least the first four games of the season.
9:07Congratulations to Isaiah Pacheco, or to Jameer Gibbs. Kareem Hunt visited last week, didn't sign.
9:12I don't know how much Kareem Hunt has left.
9:15I don't know if he fits. I would have been shocked that they didn't sign him then, to be honest with you,
9:22because this isn't a surprise that Pacheco's, this news has been percolating through press conferences for weeks of like, kind of inferring
9:28that he's not even a part of the equation.
9:31So the money probably doesn't add up. Yeah. And you had Dan Campbell after the visit talk about Jacob sailors and saying like, we're confident in him.
9:40He knows the system. It's great that we have a good backup.
9:44You think that's bringing the price down on hunt?
9:47Is that what? Maybe. It has to be because this dude is not.
9:51I won't care. I just believe Dan Campbell. Right.
9:54Like, I don't know. He doesn't have the will to lie?
9:57I'm sure he does. And I was just saying like, if he, in fact, is a liar, liar pants as a lot of these coaches are.
10:05I mean, he's very good at it. I think there's a correlation to how much you cry to how much you lie.
10:12And he cries a lot. Oh. So if you cry, you don't lie.
10:16Okay. You can always trust the tears, Mike. Not crocodile tears.
10:20Uh, no Sean Moreno shout out. Uh, George Kittle traveling.
10:23Oh, baby. With the 49ers to Australia. Let's go, George.
10:26So it seems like George has had a couple of great practices and may literally start the season with a confusing level of production.
10:34Oh, that would be my guess. If he, if he's starting the season, we're not expecting full snap counts, right?
10:40No, no, no, no. It, it's going to take some time, but.
10:44And Australia is super far from the substation. Yeah.
10:47It's about as far as you can get. Yeah.
10:50That's like going as far away as you can.
10:52Um, it's great to see him there. I can't fathom.
10:56I cannot fathom. Like if you, I mean, this is the real push comes to shove right now for everybody listening.
11:02If you draft George Kittle and he is active week one, are you playing him?
11:07Oh, that's, that's a whole different discussion. We are.
11:10We're working on our, our, our, uh, week one rankings right now.
11:14So those will be, those will be up early this next week, obviously as next week is week one, but I, I
11:21think there are many other better options than Kittle week one.
11:24This was kind of why I thought the Tungus McBasketball could not work out for people.
11:29Mm hmm. It was the idea that Kittle starts or starts soon.
11:33And then both guys play. And like, you know, the problem is, is if you take Kittle, there's a draft price and
11:40you really can't spend another one in that range.
11:43It's like an eighth rounder for Kittle. Yeah. Yeah.
11:46I think in some leagues maybe. Yeah. Kittle's usually an eighth rounder, but it's going to be earlier.
11:51That's still, you're still giving up. You're still giving up.
11:55I think that's where his ADP has been. And I've been Jason, you're Jason's out on Kittle.
12:00I am willing to accept the, the cost and the risk and the slower start because of what George Kittle can become.
12:07Like if, if you want to, if you want to take George in the eighth and then stream the position for a
12:14few weeks, I'm okay with that because the players you're drafting later, like while you can get, you can piece together your,
12:21your production and be okay with your floor. I think that's where, no one represents what George Kittle can do.
12:27Should he make a, like it's a miraculous comeback.
12:30Yeah. But I would, the fact that he's already traveling says a lot.
12:34Week one, would you start a George Kittle or like Dalton Schultz?
12:38Yeah. That that's where I'll probably just roll Kittle and just see if I can get a touchdown.
12:44Hey, that's what, that was going to be my point.
12:47I'd say Hunter Henry, Juwan Johnson, Britain strange. I'd start Juwan Johnson.
12:51I would be willing to start the other two over Kittle.
12:54I would as well. Yeah. Yeah. My point being, you can't, let's say Kittle goes in as a six this weekend.
13:01I don't think that's unreasonable. He, this kind of news of him starting the season, I've seen him go in sixes in, in leagues that we're in.
13:09Um, my point being, you can't spend another seventh on Goddard or likely or an eighth or something like, like you're going
13:16to have to take a lower guy like Schultz.
13:19And then in that case, I might just start Kittle.
13:22Yeah. We won't, we don't have any reports yet.
13:25We don't even know if he's going to be active, but like what would not surprise me inactive in Australia?
13:31He'll be wild. Yeah. He did travel though. I mean, if he's traveling, I assume he's going to be active.
13:38I'm expecting him to be active. Uh, and it wouldn't surprise me if we get, you know, a limited snaps, but George
13:45is going to be there in the red zone.
13:48Yeah. And it's like, okay, give me a, just the red zone trips of George Kittle versus a full game of Dalton Schultz.
13:55Yep. I'll play with Johnson. Who's also on. This is why I'm just out.
13:59This is why I'm out on George. I'd like all of this debate, all this, like, Oh, what do we do?
14:06How do we, I don't, I don't have to do any of this.
14:10I just have an extra player on my roster and I'm starting.
14:14Kittle has been historically injury prone. That is going to be a component.
14:18And historically awesome though. Yeah. I get it. I know this is not, it's not surprising to me that Mike Wright would
14:25pick a 49er with a long injury history to be a league winner.
14:29Yeah. It's just that, um, we'll find out a fancy football luck or not.
14:33He was so good when he wasn't injured last year.
14:37Carnell Tate working out stiffness did not practice on Tuesday.
14:40Robert Sala said, not the thing you want to hear.
14:43Oh, come on, man. Uh, T Higgins tending to a heel contusion.
14:47Oh, it's isn't considered to be a major concern of week one.
14:51And both him and both him and Jamar were like, they're limited, but everything is just saying they're going to be fine.
14:58It's funny if Jamar is not practicing and T Higgins is not practicing.
15:02It's like one of them is like, cool. All right.
15:05Jamar just rest up. T is like, Oh no.
15:08Red alert. Well, uh, let's just continue the great news for Jason.
15:11Travion Henderson continues to rehab. Right ankle injury has not been cleared for full participation yet.
15:17All the more reasons. Disgusting. Top of season. Ramondre is a steal.
15:20Oh, I hate it. Jonathan Brooks mispracticed due to general soreness.
15:24Uh oh. Yeah, but she was back and Chuba.
15:27Uh, there was one report that he'll lead the backfield.
15:30What? I was going to ask who that was with a really bad joke about general soreness.
15:35If you had known, no, no, no. If you had gotten it in, I would have liked that.
15:41I was too late. I knew I was too late.
15:44So that's why I laughed to myself when Andy called me out.
15:48General soreness like as a character? Yes. Yeah. I'm not going to lie.
15:52That went through my head. The way it was said.
15:55Yeah. Oh, he's not going to do this because of general soreness.
15:59He said, I'm not allowed. Like an order from general soreness.
16:02Anyway, get in there, Colonel. I will say that's an order from general soreness.
16:07This really stinks for a guy. It's so, so.
16:10I love it. I tweeted this out. And Colonel tightness would have been furious about it.
16:15I tweeted this out, but it's really true. Like Jonathan Brooks missing practice for a guy who is like had one healthy season since high school.
16:23And Kendra Miller was off the field at practice just makes me go on.
16:28Oh, Marshawn Lloyd. It's coming. Kendra is back. No.
16:30For how long? No. What? He got hurt yesterday.
16:33Yeah. He's, he's, he's, he's back again. He's supposed to be minor.
16:37No big deal. I think he's going to be back today.
16:40Kyle Mononga week to week due to right knee injury.
16:44That's, you know what? There's a week until the season.
16:47Yeah. I mean, that means he's not playing week one.
16:50Yeah. I mean, Jen, pretty much like that's how I take Kyle Mononga.
16:54Um, or that's how Josh takes common on guy in a chopped league as his running back too, because.
17:00Oh, he did. Yeah. Yeah. But it's like, he likes not having the players at play week one, according to his draft.
17:07Was he following the, the, uh, Jeremy draft plan?
17:10Yes. At least I didn't know when, when I drafted.
17:13There's something extra special about the Packer fan taking Jacobs too.
17:17Yeah. Cause let's be honest. That's why you took him.
17:20Oh, he got Jonathan Brooks as his running back one.
17:23So that's good. Oh, does he really? No way.
17:26Yeah. But it's okay. Cause he's got neighbors. Well, it's only a chop league.
17:30If you're last week, one, he's got neighbors. So he might play week one too.
17:35So Roshon Johnson. He has neighbors. Yeah. And Puka and Puka.
17:38Look. And Kittle. Are you kidding me? What could possibly go wrong?
17:42All five of those guys could literally not play week one.
17:46Name your team week two. Cause you're. Oh, I'll name the team week two.
17:50It's all those players aren't waivers. Uh, for the Chicago bears, Roshon Johnson will be next man up.
17:56Okay. But I forgot about him. Yeah. Uh, also Deandre Swift.
17:59Yeah. Swift is a great pick right now. Khalil Shakir remains sidelined at Tuesday's practice.
18:04Okay. B. John Robinson. Uh, oh boy. The athletic reporting.
18:07Fantasy managers may not like how many goal line carries Brian Robinson gets.
18:11Uh, I, I get it. Is it more than, is it more than one?
18:16Right. Then I'm unhappy. Honestly, if it's more than zero, the fact that the backup there is, is prototypical bruiser.
18:22It was not like Algier. Algier's 225 pound back that was used around the goal line with success.
18:28So I, it's a differentiator between the Jameer Gibbs.
18:31He doesn't have that on a good team. Yes.
18:34For sure. I mean, that's why he's the RB two versus RB.
18:37Well, I mean, it used to be a debate.
18:40It's not anymore. Gibbs is in a tear of his own.
18:44I bet we come on this show this year and we are upset a couple of times, but like Tyler Algier had
18:5119 carries inside the 10 last year. I doubt that's going up for Brian Robinson.
18:5519. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's inside the five.
18:58If that's the role that they're going to use.
19:01Um, it's just sad for the like 20 touchdown upside potential.
19:05Cause B. John could lead. Like he's, he's been, I think number three at running back.
19:10Yeah. Do you think the Falcon score 20 touchdowns this year?
19:13This is a team. Um, probably, but yeah, right now it's not feeling great, but that's why to a posted affirmations to him.
19:20Oh no. Someone. Someone, I have to believe it's someone else who has access like a family member or a PR person
19:27who was like, you got this to a, we love you has access to his account and didn't log into their account
19:34and was like giving two of that affirmation. But it was to a commenting on his own IG post of like, you
19:41got this to a, you're so good. We're with you.
19:45Uh, Brooks is like, Oh my gosh, that was real.
19:48Yeah. That was real Brooks. The nice thing is, is it was a message of like, like a family member.
19:54If it had been like two is underrated and he's never performed.
19:58He'll perform this year from two. And that would be, that would be worse.
20:02He didn't, uh, what Kevin Durant. Yeah. Um, by the way, Mike, um, how'd your boy do last night in his.
20:09Oh yeah. Bring that up in his first high school football ever.
20:13Thank you, girl. I just, I found out last night that high school teams in Arizona are allowed to play preschools.
20:19I did not know. I did not know that.
20:22Uh, I appreciate you bringing that up. Uh, my boy had a, uh, scoop and score off of a punt block.
20:29Delightful. He had his own blocked bond. Spectacular. And then he had an interception.
20:33Oh God. How did he do in the second half?
20:36Uh, that was, well, that was all in the first quarter.
20:40And then the, the, the team they were playing, which we've never seen.
20:44I don't like still to this day, that they gave up at halftime.
20:48They was like 54, nothing. It was 56 to zero.
20:51Oh brother. All right. Wrecked. Wanna know, but a, thank you for it.
20:55It'll probably get harder. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
20:58For sure. But it's like, that's awesome. A week one is like, okay, we'll take it.
21:03We'll take a freebie. Get some confidence. Hey, in Arizona, if you only have to go for two quarters of outdoor football
21:10and you get to go home, that's pretty good.
21:13It was a win. Tell them to shut that thing down early.
21:17All right. Yeah. Congrats to your boy. Let's take a break.
21:20And then we'll talk about players. We're afraid to be wrong about this should be fun.
21:26Players. I'm afraid to be wrong about spectacular spectacular that tone.
21:29That, uh, kind of scary motif is how I feel about these guys there.
21:33We're all talking about one name as kind of a main pick of players that we have ranked a certain way.
21:40And then we're kind of afraid to be wrong about, but we'll throw in another name or two.
21:46Who wants to start? I'll start. I can start.
21:49Um, I've been changing my opinion a little bit lately, but just so I still haven't drafted him.
21:54This is a guy I've pretty much been out on from the moment that news broke that he should or could be very relevant this year.
22:03I was like, I don't believe it. It's DJ more DJ more new wide receiver for the Buffalo bills is a player
22:10that is like it is it Stefan digs part two years ago, Stefan digs.
22:14He had a down year in, in Minnesota. He went from being a wide receiver one to a wide receiver two in fantasy football.
22:22Then gets traded after that down year to the Buffalo bills.
22:25And at that point in time, Josh Allen was not a, it's not really a down year.
22:30Just, I mean, he went from the wide receiver 11 to the wide receiver 21.
22:35He wasn't bad at all. He was like 17 yards.
22:38It was the most yards of his career to that point.
22:42Yeah. Just out of curiosity. DJ more is like what?
22:4529, 29. And at that point days was 27.
22:4827. Correct. So I am, I am pretty out because you know, I, I went back and I looked at digs and
22:55I was like, how did the world was very down on digs.
22:59Digs was very similar to DJ more. I want to say he was a seventh round pick in fantasy football, maybe a
23:06six round pick about where DJ more is going after that trade.
23:09The bills weren't seen as a juggernaut offense. And at that Josh Allen wasn't Josh Allen yet.
23:15Right. And so that was part of like the, the downplaying.
23:18I was very bullish on Stefan digs that year.
23:21That was, um, that was one of my, probably one of my biggest wins ever because he was a league winner finished as the wide receiver three.
23:30And I, I worry that like, okay, we've got a guy in DJ more who has always been a very good wide receiver who lacked a great quarterback.
23:39And while Caleb Williams last year looked pretty good, that's still not what Josh Allen is.
23:44He is going to play with his best quarterback of his entire career on a, you know, we just drafted yesterday, like
23:51the top offenses Buffalo is if they're not one, they're no lower than five.
23:55They are absolutely one of the elite of the elites, the S class tier.
23:59Um, and so it's like, okay, now he's the wide receiver.
24:03Number one camp highlights have been great. Uh, all of the buzz after when he first arrived, it was like, Oh, he's
24:10having trouble getting on the same page with Josh Allen.
24:13He's got to learn the playbook. It seems like he did because practice after practice, after practice, he's leading the team in targets.
24:20He's dominating the defenders. He's looking great. And part of me is still like thinking Alan Robinson vibes later career goes to
24:27the Rams and in practice and in these camp highlights and the one hand, you know, in zone touchdown.
24:33It's like, he looks good. He was paid money.
24:36DJ Moore was traded for with good capital. They paid a lot more than the going rate was assumed.
24:42Then they paid the man money. He is there one.
24:45It should work for fantasy. But what I saw last year from DJ Moore was like, you know, he didn't break tackles
24:52the way that was his trademark forever. He is older, you know, 29 years old is like, that's the time where you start to worry.
25:00So I have not been bullish on him. I haven't been in on him.
25:05I haven't drafted him and I'm worried I'm going to be wrong because if it hits, if he's just, if he is
25:12a good wide receiver for the Buffalo bills with no target competition, like at the end of this year, you can be
25:19like, how did we not all know that he was going to be a wide receiver one for fancy?
25:25Because his upside is like top 10 wide receiver.
25:28Yeah, we have, uh, we, we do have the back of our minds, the Amari Cooper trade that didn't do anything.
25:34We also would not have changed that opinion about the bills offense.
25:38If he didn't exist there. Correct. You would have thought the same thing.
25:42So there's a lot of reasons to be like, we've watched him succeed Josh Allen with no wide receiver one, which is a bunch of options.
25:50You liked on Kincaid now Shakir being out to start the year potentially also interesting.
25:55Yeah, there's, um, there's a lot kind of swirling around there and it's really like if you, if you want to make
26:02the bull case for DJ more being fine and being good for Buffalo, I think you also can look to Chicago didn't want him.
26:10No, Chicago inherited him Luther burden, Colston Loveland, Roma duns.
26:13A. Um, it didn't seem like they ever schemed him to his strengths.
26:17They used him poorly last year. 30% of his routes were slants.
26:21I'm sorry. 21% of his routes. So few of his routes were slants, crosser screens.
26:25Like that's his, what he does. Well, they just didn't use him the way that he has always thrived.
26:31They wanted to move on. They wanted to have this new trifecta of Loveland, Odunze and burden.
26:37But gosh, it, it just, it didn't feel like, like Joe Brady is a big part of this, right?
26:43The new head coach, former OC for the bills who used to be the OC back in Carolina.
26:49When DJ Moore was in his prime, he's like, he was talking about how in 2025, I saw the same player.
26:55I didn't see anything different. So he thinks he's getting 2021 DJ more.
26:59I just don't. Was he watching 2021 tape? He's like, I could, he has, dude, he's looking great.
27:05Also this scheme is awesome. Like I, it's a good name to bring up.
27:09It is a good name because I think as a show we're lower than consensus.
27:14The situation freaks me out. What I would, uh, to, to calm you, Jason, or just to be like, this, this is why I'm thinking what I'm thinking.
27:23Stefan Diggs in terms of yardage was coming off of the highest yardage of, of his career before he got traded to the Buffalo bills.
27:31His receptions were, were way down, but he was up at 18 yards of reception.
27:36Like it was a very solid year for Stefan Diggs that last year for DJ Moore was literally his worst year ever.
27:43And I, I'm on team Ben Johnson and it's like, if Ben Johnson isn't figuring out how to maximize you, that's really strange.
27:50Right. You know what I have? I can't imagine it's a Ben Johnson's like, I just don't, I don't like you DJ Moore.
27:57It's like, no, he, a guy who they would, didn't he sign an extension like before the season?
28:03So yeah, something, something had just come up where he got more money.
28:07I can't recall the timing of it, but so that's, are you guys in or out on DJ Moore?
28:13Like personally, I'm in the same boat. You are where I can see it going both ways.
28:19I mean, where is his ADP? I'm looking wide or she are 22.
28:23Yeah. And I've got him at 25, a fifth rounder.
28:26He's Jason at 26. We're all below ADP. He's a fifth rounder on sleeper and Yahoo at a sixth on ESPN.
28:32I'll tell you what it's transitioned from being completely out on him to me actively trying to stack him with Josh Allen when I can.
28:40That is where I end up. If I ever am in a mock or in some kind of draft where I do
28:47end up with him, which is rare, it's always, I've never drafted him without having Josh Allen on the roster.
28:54All right. The next player we are afraid to be wrong about, Mike and I picked the same position.
29:00You guys picked pretty much the same type of, like the same archetype player.
29:04I have been the, I've been on this, the downside of the Jackson dart argument all off season.
29:10So that is the name that I'm most afraid to be wrong about a 23 year old running quarterback.
29:16And part of the argument against Jackson dart is an inexact predictive situation where like you can't predict injury.
29:22Like that's a part of the factors of the Jackson dart equation for me.
29:26He's already been in. You can predict that Jackson dart will get hurt.
29:30You can predict foolishness in the back. And he's already been in the blue tent this preseason.
29:36So, you know, you can blame everything else, but it's him too.
29:40Like he, he holds the ball a long time.
29:42He likes to make plays happen and he runs with some reckless abandon that caught it caused him to be in the
29:49blue tent in half of his starts last year.
29:52I don't want to over or under think the situation.
29:55I have been more nervous about it. Now the irony is I'm looking at ADP.
30:00I'm basically pretty much at ADP. I'm even little, I'm a spot higher.
30:04Like, you know, you guys are much higher or Jason is, but I just am very worried about anything on this offense
30:11working out to start the year neighbors. It seems more and more likely he won't start the season.
30:17Um, at certainly not with a full snap cannon at a hundred percent.
30:21And, um, I am worried about starting the year.
30:24Well, I, uh, you've got an interesting Dallas matchup in week one.
30:28That should be really fun. But then you go and play the Rams, stay healthy against miles Garrett and Aaron Donald in
30:35week two is cam Scadaboo going to be the main guy.
30:38Are they going to have to rotate this thing?
30:41Um, but I'm afraid to be wrong about him.
30:44I mean, you, there are certain players that it's like kind of funny.
30:48Cause a lot of these players like Jackson dart is another player.
30:52I'm afraid to be wrong on we're on, you know what I mean?
30:56Like on the opposite side, because I'm kind of bullish.
30:59I like the shot in the ninth round of a young mobile quarterback who was basically scoring 20 points a game without
31:06neighbors last year in a rookie season over and over and over.
31:10But like, I'm not once upon a time he was on the list on the board for my guy and went back
31:17and I watched all the tape and I looked at the schedule and I dug as deep as I could.
31:23And I go, nah, nah, dude. Uh, I'm going to draft him.
31:27I'm going to, uh, well, he's getting cheaper and more affordable in the last two weeks.
31:32He's dropped a lot in ADP for all these.
31:35I don't know why just to, you know, people afraid, people afraid, people, people have been compelled by my arguments.
31:41They're so compelling. Yeah. It's like to use the same word twice in arguments, which kind of reemphasizes it like Shakespeare over here.
31:49Yeah. Um, yeah, I, I think he could turn into a league winning type, but my goodness, he's like, he's just not a good enough quarterback.
31:57It's kind of, he fits the category of could bust, could be fine and could be great.
32:02And there's those guys are all players were afraid to be like adjusted fields.
32:07You know, it's like, man, he can score a lot in fantasy, can run like crazy, but is he a good enough quarterback?
32:14Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. And I don't know if I know he's a better quarterback than Justin fields already.
32:21The naggy Harbaugh top division. We'll see. Nagging at you.
32:24It does. Thank you. Very compelling. All right. The, the player I'm more concerned about, uh, just what has been coming out of Washington camp.
32:32Jayden Daniels quarterback of the Washington commanders, because the question is what if the rookie year was just right place, right time.
32:39And it was pure magic. And that is the best that we are ever going to get from Jayden Daniels.
32:45You know, the, uh, we've, uh, I was in fantasy football, I guess he's going as the QB six.
32:51So it's not like we're just elevating him right back to being a top tier fancy quarterback.
32:57Cause I think he was like QB two or QB three last year, but the vibes out of Washington have, they've been
33:04a very bad, you know, we, we brought up this report from Nikki Javola of that quote.
33:09This is the worst I've ever seen the commanders offense in years, inoperable offensive line.
33:14Yeah. Okay. That's a, that's a gigantic red flag.
33:17I know he's mobile, but when your offensive line is trash, it's just helpful.
33:21It's very, very difficult to re to come through for fancy football last year.
33:25Even when healthy yet, Jayden Daniels was running a ton, like the floor, you know, it was there, but but the passing numbers there, they were not spectacular.
33:34He was, you know, we had a couple of 20 point outings.
33:38We, we love to see that. But in terms of him versus the field, he was a top 12 quarterback in one of his healthy games.
33:46He was QB six in that week against Chicago, a defense that, that people had some real fantasy success against just a little bit concerned.
33:54You have, it's a whole new offense, right? You like his first couple of years, you had cliff Kingsbury and they're bringing
34:01a very college friendly type of a system. And now the reports are, well, Dan Quinn wants more pro.
34:07We want to be under center more, which I understand.
34:10Like when you, when you take your quarterback and you're just playing in shotgun, it really nerfs a lot of what you're
34:17able to do with play action with actually just running the ball.
34:21And then you have, and David Blau, it's his first time.
34:25David, blah, blah, blah. It's just, what if he's just not a good play caller?
34:29Even if he's decent, even if he's decent, is he as good as cliff Kingsbury for fantasy?
34:35Probably not. It's like, check out Philadelphia. Philadelphia had marvelous fantasy football pieces for us to draft and enjoy.
34:41One O, Kellen Moore comes in. Everything is great.
34:44Kellen Moore leaves. We get a new OC. It's bad.
34:47Like first time OCs can, it can turn upside down.
34:50And I'm just starting to get a little bit more concerned about maybe we need to hedge here.
34:56And then on top, his top two weapons are Terry McLaurin and Stefan Diggs.
35:00What's wrong with that, Mike? Years gone by. That's fine.
35:03Uh, we have not had two wide receivers who are both 30 or older finished one, one and two on a team
35:10in receptions since 2010 when Terrell Owens and Chad Johnson.
35:13But the run game will, will kind of open up things for him.
35:18You know, don't you think? Uh, what do you want to talk about?
35:22Behind the offensive line with Bill and Chad White.
35:25Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill. So just, I'm, I'm starting to get a little bit more concerned that we're, like I'm still drafting
35:31Jane Daniels as I was, as I have been.
35:34But, uh. Where are you at? Cause I. A little scary.
35:38I find myself, we haven't really talked about him much.
35:41I'm glad you're bringing this name up. He's just been ranked really high.
35:45He's been ranked really high. He's been ranked really high in my rankings.
35:49Like I, uh, you know, you stat people out and you go, this is the, the type of ball he plays.
35:56This is what he's going to end up having to run for in this offense, which is helpful for fantasy.
36:02Um, and the stats say what the stats say and he's been decently high.
36:07But every time I'm on the clock where you're drafting him.
36:10Um, and it's been lower than, I mean, there's been the argument of this year, these really elite type of quarterbacks, get them in the sixth round.
36:19So in, in one hand, that's like, that's really great.
36:22Jalen hurts, uh, Daniels in the sixth round, fantastic value at, on the other hand, it's like, I, I keep passing on
36:29them cause there's players, you know, Jamison Williams and Darian Price and, um, you know, Roma dunes.
36:34It's like, I like those guys and I'm not sure that the commander's offense is going to be like, I can see them collapsing.
36:42Right. These are not questions for quarterbacks that we have anointed.
36:45Great. All the problems and objections to, to Jaden are not things that you necessarily are bringing up about the great producers at the position.
36:53We just don't have a long enough track record with Jaden.
36:57And so some people are saying, yes, he is that and he'll be fine.
37:01And adding digs is a huge improvement as old as digs is.
37:05On the other hand, some people are saying, well, maybe it's not proven yet a great, easy schedule, right?
37:11This was the, this is the Drake may thing where like Drake may has his breakout, but the schedule was juicy and
37:18that's what it was for Washington two years ago.
37:21Last year. Part of the problem is when he actually played, he wasn't that good.
37:25Yeah. And so it's like, but he didn't have weapons.
37:29He didn't have Terry McLaurin for most of those games.
37:32He obviously didn't have digs. I will say you had an old Debo and I can make the argument for Jaden Daniels to be good.
37:40We're just, we're bringing up the like, Oh, it's, is he an elite quarterback?
37:44If he is, he will be fine. I find myself not drafting him for a lot of the reasons you're outlaying and,
37:51and kind of just passing on him for other options.
37:54However, when you look at like what wins a championship, it's those game breaking guys with extreme upside.
38:00And there is an obvious path for Daniels. Like if you told me that he's number one year, he's number one.
38:07He's like, of course he could rush for, there's only three guys in the league this year that have a legitimate capability of rushing for 800 yards.
38:15And he's one of them. And if you, if you end up rushing for 750 plus yards and then you're a good passer, those two things come together.
38:24Like what happened for Lamar Jackson twice in his career, you just win.
38:28And so, you know, it's worth risk is going to be higher because he is just like dart.
38:34He could get hurt. He's, he got banged up multiple times last year.
38:38And they were like, if you, if you run recklessly, you're at risk at his size.
38:43He's tinier than dart. Darts got the, at least some meat on the bone when we, when you know me, when he
38:50was, when he was healthy is what we're saying.
38:53If he was still running, he was on a 17 game pace in his healthy games of 742 rushing yards.
38:59Yes. That's still an absurd number. Um, but it was weeks three and four.
39:04He was out with a knee injury. Then week eight was a hamstring injury.
39:08And then the rest of the year, it was an elbow injury.
39:12Oh yeah. He came out and popped his elbow.
39:15So running it's, you know, you're, you're, of course we're not trying to freak people out of like people have drafted, people got drafts coming up.
39:23We're just, I'm, I'm, I'm moving that risk rating up.
39:26No, the, the, the league winning upside is still there with Jane Daniels.
39:30You know, I would, I always say it's about how much risk are you willing to accept?
39:36And could he be a quarterback you draft and you have to find another quarterback?
39:40It certainly could happen. All right. We'll take a break.
39:44And we got a couple other names, maybe get into some mailbag.
39:47All right. Uh, we, we won't spend as much time on these things, but another player I'm afraid to be wrong about is Saquon Barkley.
39:55I think Saquon is one of those guys that you're like, you know, uh, I, I remember the very end of the season.
40:03He finally had a long breakaway run. Remember the, the, the Superbowl year.
40:07He had a bunch of them, but it was not the beginning.
40:10It was the end of the season where you got that breakaway run from Saquon and you said, that's that same guy.
40:17You know, last year he had 13 carries inside the five and only one rushing touchdown.
40:23That seems like some positive regression on the way.
40:25New offensive coordinator who Jason likes. There's part of me that's like, I don't know if he's any good, but he was a good bit.
40:33The Saquon Barkley equation is, is interesting to me.
40:36I just feel like he could be one of those guys where you're like, like if he competed in the top five,
40:43it's not a shock, but we're all kind of not in that same top tier category this year.
40:49Yeah, it is top there. They're moving, uh, hurts under center, which should really help Saquon Barkley.
40:54Then they are, they're much healthier on the offensive line, which should really help Saquon Barkley.
40:59And he's Saquon Barkley. He was the number one running back two years ago, but I have, I haven't drafted him anywhere.
41:06I mean, have you, have you drafted him? I have not.
41:10Yeah. I mean, when you write in his range is the, like, I either have to take, if I want Chase Brown
41:17or Ken Walker, his name, I take them over Barkley.
41:20And I have done that every time. His name carries a lot of weight.
41:24We were on a, what show was it? Uh, we were doing a spot with Greg Rosenthal.
41:30Yeah. Greg Rosenthal where he, he made the argument to take a third overall in fantasy and I'm just not there.
41:36I mean, it's possible though. Yeah, no, I, I get it.
41:40That's why you're afraid to be wrong. Here's the, the bonus mention for me of the player.
41:45I'm super afraid to be wrong. Cause I am O U T on a player.
41:50It's so good. And it's Tucker craft. Like Tucker craft going in.
41:54You should be afraid. Yeah. I would be terrified.
41:57Uh, you know, he's a, cause you in fact are wrong.
42:00I don't think so. I mean, obviously I don't think so, which is why I'm not drafting him anywhere.
42:06He was that dude. He was the tight end to and fantasy, uh, in points per game before his injury in those
42:13first eight games, he led the team in fancy points per route, run targets, per route, run yards, per route, run, first
42:20downs per route, run yards, uh, after catch per reception, red zone targets, like he was awesome.
42:25But then he got a, he tours ACL and it was like, uh, uh, hopefully he's ready for week one.
42:32We've seen him running straight lines and whatever. And then there was the comments of like, well, he'll for the first half
42:39of the year, he'll kind of be on a snap count and then they'll let him loose the last half of the year.
42:46He costs a lot in drafts. He is not cheap.
42:49He's not like, Oh, because of the ACL, I'm getting a 10th round pick.
42:54I would, I would do that. You're, you're giving up a prime running back or wide receiver to take a player.
43:00I'm going to be a player who is coming off an ACL who has never done it.
43:06Like it's still a projection and I'm just not willing.
43:09Dog. I agreed. Agreed. That's why I'm terrified. I'm afraid to be, I'm afraid to be wrong.
43:14Um, if he can, I hope I'm wrong because Tucker craft being awesome and healthy is good for the NFL.
43:21Good for fantasy football. Good for Jordan love, but I'm out.
43:24If he can only run a straight line, that's in fact, good enough for Tucker craft.
43:29Mike, what's one more name from you? I'm going with Brian Thomas jr.
43:33Of the Jacksonville Jaguars of it's just, we would all have it completely upside down.
43:38And there's just going to be so many sad people of we're all placing our bets on the Jags and Brian Thomas
43:45feels kind of like the last, the last one.
43:48Yeah. We're not even allowing wide receiver of success going in the seventh round and everything is Parker Washington.
43:54The part we did a, um, I saw Parker Washington.
43:57So let me say this real quick. Okay. He in a, in a $100,000 by Oh, yep.
44:02Yeah. Parker Washington went in the third round. Yes.
44:05The, we, we did our, that's how in the, this week's dynasty pod.
44:09We did some, some bold predictions for dynasty and Kyle who hosts that show.
44:14He put out a call and he's like, let's see what the foot client is feeling.
44:19People are sweaty for Parker Washington. He's like, it's just, it's so many people are calling their shot for Parker that it's, it no longer publicly feels bold.
44:28Cause everyone's just saying it's going to happen. Could you imagine at the end of the season, two years ago, the end
44:35of the season where Brian Thomas jr, the first round drafted wide receiver who finishes, I think he was a wide receiver
44:42seven, his rookie year and was unbelievable. Like 1400 receiving yards.
44:45If you told me that Brian Thomas jr. And Parker Washington, both are healthy from here on out.
44:51This is not an injury issue. And in the near future.
44:54Oh my gosh. One is going to be the darling.
44:57And one is going to be just this, uh, you know, undraftable loser.
45:02Wild that that flip has happened. Is this a, is this a, they both peed in the fountain at the same time.
45:09Oh, you little getting freaky on a Friday. Yeah.
45:11Do we have got a body swap happening? Yeah, I think so.
45:15I have no other good explanation. Like, do you guys remember the beginning of last year and like Parker Washington was doing
45:22stuff and everyone was like, Parker, get out of the way.
45:26Yeah. Stop ruining things for Brian Thomas. Nobody drafted you.
45:29And now everyone's going to be like, Brian Thomas, get out of the way.
45:33You're right. All right. Let's do some mailbag. Mailbag.
45:36Mailbag. Presented by Paramount Plus. All right. Uh, first question coming in, by the way, you can go to the website, the
45:43fantasy footballers.com click that submit a question button or dial or voicemail hotline three zero two four six four T F F B.
45:50First question coming in from Matthew Brooks says, uh, is my guy overreaction question mark?
45:55Oh, Jason, how high is too high to draft Garrett Wilson to three turn question mark?
46:00Um, so the reason he's a, my guy is because of where he's going in drafts, right?
46:06Like the fact that you can, you can actually get Garrett Wilson right now on sleeper at the four 10 on Yahoo at the five Oh one.
46:14It's just outrageous value to me. I'm not taking him over players like, uh, Devante Smith, who's on a much better offense,
46:21um, or, or George Pickens, you know, who's, uh, you know, a top 12 wide receiver last year on a better offense with a good quarterback.
46:29And so that's who you'd be having to take him over at that two three turn area.
46:35So yeah, I think, I think that's probably too high.
46:38It's, it's not that he couldn't end up being a good pick, but everything in fantasy is, is odds and probabilities.
46:44And I would say that there's a higher probability that George Pickens or Devante Smith is better than Garrett Wilson, Garrett Wilson.
46:51I am very in on and very bullish that he is well better than where he's being drafted right now this year.
46:58So, uh, yeah, I would say that's just smidge too high, even though he's a good player.
47:04All right. Uh, well writing in on Instagram, who would be your fourth?
47:08My guy. Honestly, it will be our fancy MVP.
47:11I would assume, which is coming up on Friday.
47:14I know mine. I'll throw a name that I know won't be my fancy MVP.
47:18Oh, I got, I got another one too. Uh, I'll throw Brees Hall out there.
47:23I'm pretty bullish on Brees Hall. Love that. Love that pick.
47:27Um, cause the jets always work out. I, I, um, I would, I would be Tyler Warren.
47:32You know, so much love to Loveland and Warren's around later.
47:35Not enough war for Warren. No, I, I really, really like he, he was in consideration.
47:41I thought the entire off season that Tyler Warren was an obvious, my guy.
47:45And, and, uh, you haven't come around on, on, uh, Alec Pierce yet.
47:49I think Alec Pierce is going to be very good at the Alec Pierce role.
47:54Oh, you said that so unconvincingly. Um, it was not going to be the Alec Pierce role.
47:59Mine was supposed to be Tyler. Too much money for that.
48:03Well, here's the thing. No matter what, I'm right.
48:06It was supposed to be Tyler Shuck and then Jordan Tyson.
48:09It's the Alec Pierce role going. What's that? Nothing.
48:12I'm trying to have a show and you're like, I'm just going to have a side conversation into the microphone.
48:18We were in the middle of talking about Alec Pierce.
48:21We were done. I guess I was done. I can say I did not hear what Mike said.
48:27Yeah. That's why I asked him what he said.
48:30Cause he was talking in the middle of our conversation.
48:33Oh man. Flipping it. Anyways, what were you saying?
48:36Uh, I've wanted it to be. No. All right.
48:39But now I really am curious and I know you're never going to say it.
48:44You already know what the answer is. It's been, it was on the whiteboard forever.
48:48It was supposed to be Tyler. Oh, and then Jordan Tyson went.
48:52Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's a good question from YouTube.
48:55Ryan wants to know, are you still picking Puka with a top four pick?
49:00This is. No, let's be clear. Just because Puka wasn't placed on the commissioner's list yet does not mean that Puka is 100% safe.
49:07There were some rumblings this morning. Um, I don't know.
49:10Oh, look, I am not going to pretend I know everything that has happened with Puka Nakua.
49:16But this morning there was a video that came out from his ex-girlfriend.
49:20She didn't make any like specific allegations. But she mentioned the last year.
49:24I mean, I don't even know how much I want to talk about this.
49:29But it basically, they were together for like four or five years.
49:32It was great. But in the last year and a half, she was in a, what she described as an abusive relationship.
49:39And that he changed overnight. Yeah. Which seems to match all other actions external of that relationship in the public and everything he's been doing.
49:47He does not have an extension with the Rams.
49:50The fact that he doesn't have an extension with the Rams.
49:54There are, behind the scenes, there have to be questions.
49:57How in the world does a player that good, so important to your Super Bowl, you know, odds on favorite champion roster,
50:04not have an extension for a player like that?
50:07I mean, this is scary. One of the best wide receivers performance-wise in the NFL.
50:11And the NFL has come out and said, you know, players like Puka Nakua, Rashad Bateman's matters, still under review by the National Football League.
50:19Am I nervous to take him at, I mean, we have a draft on Monday that I'm pretty sure he's going to go number two.
50:27But it's nerve-wracking to do that. This is not, this is not, oh man, it's not Rashad Bateman where he's the last
50:34pick of your draft and you're like, whatever happens, happens.
50:37This is very good chance if you take Puka and something happens, your season ends.
50:42Because losing your first, I mean, not necessarily, but you lose your first, it's like CMC's injury.
50:47You know, it's going to be massive. You have a gigantic hole that you have to dig out of.
50:53Let's assume the first three picks are Gibbs, Bijan, Jamar Chase.
50:57So then this is why the question is, would you still take Puka at four?
51:02Because that's where the questions really start. I would personally, as of this moment, knowing whatever we don't know, I would rather
51:09draft Christian McCaffrey, Almond Ra, JSN, and then I get really questionable on the Jonathan Taylor, James Cook.
51:14Like that, so I'm pushing him back down the first round for me.
51:18Okay. But not too far. Would you guys rather draft the Jonathan Taylor, James Cook tier of running back or the Puka?
51:25I would take Puka because I want to win the league, and I think Puka's worthy of being the number two pick in the draft.
51:33Sure. Mike? I think at this point that moving him behind JSN and Almond Ra is probably just the, like, those guys are awesome.
51:41Yeah. You know. If all people play 17 games.
51:44Yeah, it is. It's probably, in terms of, like, fantasy tiers, it would be a step down.
51:49But with a pick that high to still get the production from, that you would expect from JSN or Almond Ra, I think it might be worth it.
51:58The Rams are not deep at wide receiver, and they haven't added anybody.
52:02And that is one of the only saving graces I have right now.
52:06They haven't even added a Kalem Johnson equivalent at wide receiver.
52:10Unless you count the trade for 2-2, which maybe you can.
52:13I count Terrence Ferguson. Yeah, I know you do.
52:16You're a little too, I mean, maybe not too, but you're just very.
52:20I don't know. You're very Fergie-licious. This reminds me of when Jason loved Mark Andrews, and we were like, what are you talking about?
52:28And then Mark Andrews was like the tight end 2 that year.
52:32TBD. He hasn't done anything yet, but the opportunity for a great offense, and I think he's a really good player.
52:38But he's in a, I mean, it's dumb. I mean, it's a last round dart throw hopeful projection.
52:44One more. Okay, sorry. No, I'll just say it's not something you can like easily say, well, obviously this is coming.
52:51There's just a pathway that you could see how it comes, and if it comes, it's a really high upside pick.
52:57I like this one just real quick, but from off of YouTube from Nick.
53:02Am I crazy to take AJ Brown over JJ or CD?
53:05Not crazy, no. No, I don't think so. Jack wants to know best tips for the Megaloball as we close things out.
53:12Well, I mean, this is a tournament-style play, so genuinely, I don't look at matchups and things like that.
53:18Well, I mean, you've got to win for individual.
53:21But let's be honest. The top six out of every 12 teams get in the playoffs.
53:26You just have to be top half. But you have to make the playoffs.
53:31So I am looking at the schedule in the fantasy playoff weeks.
53:34Look at that. Week 17, I guess week 18.
53:37Well, they're very competitive. I mean, when are you saying to look at those?
53:42I'm saying even in your draft. Oh, man. Not me.
53:45If you want to win the actual league, you've got to go for an extreme high upside.
53:50You've got to have a few players that really break out.
53:54And obviously, you can't only fill a roster with high volatility.
53:57You're not going to get to the championship for that.
54:00But you do need a handful of those nuclear options.
54:03Running backs seem to go higher in Megaloball drafts.
54:06So do my guys. So you're competing with a ton of foot-clam people.
54:10Something to keep in mind with those drafts starting up on September 4th.
54:15You can get in there, Megaloball.com. That was the Mailbag presented by Paramount+.
54:19Paramount+. Paramount is the streaming home to the NFL on CBS all season long.
54:23We'll see you Sunday. All right. That is going to do it for today's episode of the Fantasy Footballers.
54:29Make sure you follow us on X at the FFBallers.
54:32And good luck on all the drafts coming up.
54:35Our final mock draft episode is tomorrow for the other 50% still drafting and an MVP episode on Friday.
54:41Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast.
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