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Week 5 Sunday Recap: Winners, Losers and Waiver Targets From Every Game

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Oct 12, 2026
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D'Andre SwiftBreece HallBrenton StrangeBrian Thomas Jr.C.J. StroudCaleb WilliamsChris RodriguezChristian WatsonColston LovelandDarius CooperDavid MontgomeryDenzel BostonDeVonta SmithGarrett Wilson
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Breece Hall

NegativeInjury13:00

Quad injury sidelines Breece Hall; Ian Hartitz questions whether Hall can return to 70%+ snap share given Breece Allen's elite performance (4.2 YAC, 21% of carries for 10+ yards). Even with Hall's return, committee approach likely; Allen's effectiveness may limit Hall's role recovery.

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Brenton Strange

PositiveBreakout4:28

Bretton Strange posted back-to-back strong performances, catching 7 of 8 targets for 68 yards in week 5 and being tackled just short of the goal line on two separate occasions (13.8 PPR points). Ian Hartitz is moving Strange up to high-end TE2 and notes that if he has another game like this, he could enter the low-end TE1 conversation. Strange's yards per route run ranks among the best over the past two seasons, and the Jaguars' heavy 12-13 personnel packages (which remove WR1s from the field) create more target opportunities for him.

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Brian Thomas Jr.

NegativeProjection3:15

Brian Thomas Jr. scored 0 fantasy points in week 5 against the Eagles despite a near-touchdown late in the game; he failed to get his second foot down in bounds on what would have been a scoring play. Additionally, Thomas is seeing reduced route participation (59% route share) and was technically the WR3 on the day, with Josh Cameron nipping at his heels and performing just as well on his opportunities. The Jaguars employ heavy 12-13 personnel packages that limit his snaps, benefiting tight end Bretton Strange instead.

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C.J. Stroud

PositiveProjection32:00

Stroud posted 20.9 fantasy points and 261 passing yards in Week 5 despite the Texans defense playing well, suggesting the passing attack remains productive even when the defense is strong. He's averaging 240–250 yards per game and currently above that rate, which should support good fantasy games for receivers including Marvin Harrison Jr. Ranked QB13 in EPA per drop-back. Ian Hartitz highlighted a rolling-out-to-his-left touchdown pass to Jaylen Noel as evidence of Stroud's downfield passing ability.

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Caleb Williams

PositiveInjury26:36

Williams is on track to return Week 6 against the Falcons per Ben Johnson after the game. He was questionable for Week 5 and participated in limited practice on Friday, which Ian Hartitz views as a strong indication he will be available for the Atlanta matchup. Hartitz notes the Bears need him back, signaling his return should improve the passing game outlook for Bears receivers.

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Chris Rodriguez

NegativeRole6:00

Goal-line back limiting Bashaw Tutin's scoring upside in high-value situations. In Week 5, Rodriguez nearly fumbled (play called dead early), was used in Wildcat formation behind center with a false start, and whiffed on a block that sabotaged his own teammate. Despite these execution issues, he continues to get goal-line carries.

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Christian Watson

PositiveProjection20:06

Watson dominated Week 5 with 185 receiving yards, 2 TDs, 32.3 fantasy points, 88% route share, and 3 end zone targets against the Bears. He is now 4th in NFL receiving yards. Ian Hartitz and Dwayne project him as a top-12 WR going forward, with ceiling-game potential against the Cowboys next week where he could post 200+ receiving yards.

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Colston Loveland

PositiveRole28:29

Loveland caught 2 passes for 19 yards on 5 targets with a 79% route share but only 13% target share in Week 5. Ian Hartitz had him outside the top 12 tight ends this week and notes the production gap is concerning given his draft capital. While he still expects Loveland to finish as a top-12 tight end by year's end, the early-season small sample and current production do not match the top-5 tight end expectation from draft day. The mismatch between route participation and target allocation is the core issue.

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D'Andre Swift

PositiveUsage30:07

Swift delivered 17.3 PPR points in Week 5 despite dealing with injuries during the week (ultimately cleared to full practice and off injury report). He finished with 57% snap share and 43% of team rushing attempts; 75% snap share in the first three quarters before the game got out of hand. Swift rushed 9 times for 4.8 yards per carry with a rushing TD and also caught 4 balls for 30 yards with a 13% target share. Ian Hartitz notes he was still the lead guy but Roshan Johnson was rotated in for relief. If Montrell Mondeaux (thumb, dislocated toe) is unavailable next week, Hartitz is willing to rank Swift as a top-12 RB.

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PositiveProjection31:06

Ian Hartitz ranks Swift as a top-12 running back contingent on Monangai's availability next week; Swift caught four balls for 30 yards with a 13% target share in Week 5 despite dealing with thumb and toe injuries.

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Darius Cooper

PositiveRole9:57

Targeted deep down the sideline by Jalen Hurts for a long touchdown score in Week 5. Ian Hartitz's sarcastic reference to 'apparently superstar Darius Cooper' suggests he is the Eagles' primary deep threat and most reliable target in the passing game.

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David Montgomery

NegativeInjury35:56

Montgomery left the Week 5 game early with a groin injury and is likely to miss multiple games. Ian Hartitz notes he could be 'missing a few games,' which opened a workhorse role for Woody Marks.

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Denzel Boston

PositiveProjection17:02

Boston caught 3 passes for 46 yards and a TD with 13.6 average depth of target and 95 air yards; he ranks WR14 in PPR points this season. Ian Hartitz has him around WR2 borderline with two byes remaining and projects he might crack the top 24 next week vs. Ravens, though he notes Boston remains boom-bust due to his role and the offense.

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DeVonta Smith

NegativeInjury10:25

Banged up with a PCL injury and returned to play in Week 5 but is clearly not himself. PCL injuries can be tricky and may continue to affect his availability and performance going forward.

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Garrett Wilson

PositiveProjection12:18

Wilson posted 104 receiving yards, 1 TD, and 23.4 PPR points in Week 5 vs. Cleveland with 97% route share, 38% target share, and 28% slot usage. On pace for 143 targets, 105 receptions, 200+ yards, and 10 touchdowns despite Week 4's 32-snap outlier. Ian Hartitz emphasizes Wilson is 'essentially just out here doing this on his own' with Gino Smith without heavy scheme support like play action, 'breaking tackles, making contested catches, just doing a bunch of king [stuff] out there.' Projects Wilson to rank very highly next week vs. Patriots if the Patriots QB room remains banged up.

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Isaiah Bond

NegativeRole18:06

Bond worked as the WR3, primarily handling deep targets with 16.6 average depth of target and 116 air yards; he is filling his typical deep-ball role in the offense.

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Jayden Daniels

NegativeProjection1:24

Ian Hartitz is pushing Jaden Daniels outside of his top 12 quarterbacks due to weather conditions and injured weapons on the Commanders. Despite this projection downgrade, Daniels continues to produce rushing touchdowns; he became the first quarterback with multiple 25+ yard rushing touchdowns since Mike Vick in 2002, showcasing his unique dual-threat ability even amid offensive constraints.

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Jaylin Noel

PositiveRole34:06

Noel delivered a strong Week 5 performance as a slot specialist: 60% of snaps in slot, 54% route share, 15.2 PPR points, 5 catches for 41 yards including a touchdown. He posted 2.06 yards per route run (27th in league). Ian Hartitz calls him a 'playmaker' with potential role growth as the season progresses, especially if the Texans deploy more 11 personnel with Marvin Harrison Jr.'s arrival. Currently a boom-bust WR5/6 but a 'decent stash' given strong underlying performance.

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Jerry Jeudy

PositiveRole17:42

Jeudy stepped into the WR2 role with Conpsion out, posting 22% target share, 7 targets, and 89% route share; he is back in the wide receiver 2 role as a result of the injury.

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Jordan Love

PositiveProjection20:06

Love threw for 367 yards and 2 TDs (both to Christian Watson) in the Packers' dominant 31-7 win over the Bears. He completed five passes of 30+ yards downfield—a feat not accomplished since Ben Roethlisberger in 2015—demonstrating historic downfield efficiency and elite performance slinging the ball downfield.

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Josh Cameron

PositiveRole4:00

Josh Cameron continues to operate as the Jaguars' number three receiver but is competing closely with Brian Thomas Jr. for targets and performing at an equivalent level on his opportunities. Described as 'nipping at his heels' and 'looking every bit as good as BTJ on his opportunities,' Cameron is a viable alternative or potential breakout candidate in the Jaguars' receiving corps. In week 5, he had a kick return touchdown negated by a holding penalty.

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Marvin Harrison Jr.

PositiveRole32:00

Harrison Jr. was traded to the Texans for a second and sixth-round pick. Ian Hartitz frames him as a 'boomer wide receiver three' reunited with CJ Stroud in an offense with a QB willing to push the ball downfield and chemistry with Harrison. Hartitz expects him as a realistic WR3, not a starter this week, but expresses relief for owners who held him through the Cardinals' dysfunction, suggesting the Texans situation offers at least a startable fantasy asset going forward. Upside depends on route tree expansion beyond outside perimeter deep routes; if stuck on the outside only, the upgrade is mainly avoiding Trey McBride and Michael Wilson target competition from Arizona. Hartitz notes history is not favorable—top-five picks traded early in career (Trey Lance, Trent Richardson, Aaron Curry, Gaines Adams) have underperformed, though Arizona may not have optimized his role.

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Matthew Golden

PositiveProjection20:20

Golden posted 123 receiving yards and 20.3 fantasy points in Week 5, ranking 6th in NFL receiving yards. Ian Hartitz and Dwayne project him as a top-12 WR alongside Christian Watson, noting the Packers' dual-WR usage pattern (similar to Peyton Manning's Broncos with Demarius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders). Golden has ceiling-game potential against the Cowboys with possible 200+ receiving yards.

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Parker Washington

PositiveBreakout2:25

Parker Washington exploded for 30.4 PPR fantasy points on 151 receiving yards and 2 touchdowns (including one one-handed catch) against the Eagles' weak slot coverage. He posted an 86% route participation rate, 24% target share (9 targets), 2 red zone targets, and 2 end zone targets, playing 34% of snaps from the slot but lining up all over the field. Ian Hartitz emphasizes not to be scared off by his week 4 underperformance; Washington is a WR1 going forward.

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Pierre Strong Jr.

NegativeRole24:04

Strong played in place of injured Chris Brooks and received 22% of rushing attempts in the three-way Packers backfield split, behind Marshon Lloyd's 44% and Caleb Johnson's 30%.

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Raheim Sanders

NegativeValue19:07

Sanders played 29% of snaps with 14% of carries in a passing-down role in Week 5. Ian Hartitz projects Sanders as the more likely candidate to step into the rushing role if Judkins is injured, and recommends targeting him on waivers at 10-15% FAB to avoid overspending.

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Rome Odunze

PositiveUsage27:34

Odunze's route share has trended upward over the last three games (86% to 89% to 100% in Week 5), and his target share has grown from 18% to 23% to 23%, showing a clear trend of increasing involvement in the Bears passing game despite scoring only 5 PPR points in Week 5 due to poor QB play (Begant/Keenum). Ian Hartitz compares his trajectory to Marvin Harrison Jr., who produced despite early target inefficiency. With Caleb Williams returning and potential consolidation around Odunze and Burks, upside exists if he remains a primary target.

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Trevor Lawrence

PositiveProjection2:02

Trevor Lawrence posted 331 passing yards and 2 touchdowns in the Jaguars' 19-17 upset win over the Eagles in London, both scoring passes going to Parker Washington. This performance came despite Jacksonville's offensive struggles in the red zone (0 TDs on 3 trips), suggesting Lawrence's efficiency when opportunities arise.

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Tucker Kraft

PositiveUsage23:00

Kraft caught all 5 of his targets for 64 yards in Week 5. Matt LaFleur's Packers are utilizing tight ends effectively in the passing game with pre-snap motion and play-action concepts, similar to Luke Musgrave's wild card breakout scheme.

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Will Shipley

NegativeInjury9:15

Scored a short touchdown in Week 5 but suffered a foot injury and is out of the picture for fantasy purposes.

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Woody Marks

PositiveUsage36:02

Marks delivered a workhorse performance in Week 5 with elite volume: 12.5 PPR points, 84% snap share, 63% of rushing attempts (15 carries for 62 yards, 4.1 YPC), 100% goal-line snaps, 81% route share, and 12% target share. Ian Hartitz projects him as 'someone who could be slot inside the top 20' RBs based on volume alone, with a ceiling comparable to Rashad White's full-time role (~17 PPR points per game). Caveat: the Texans rank bottom in yards before contact with limited offensive line help, though improved CJ Stroud play and a weak defense could create more scoring opportunities.

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Episode Transcript

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1:11It is a great day to break down all of the fantasy football action from another jam-packed week five. Ian Harris here
1:17from team Roar. Dwayne the Rock McFarland from team fantasy life. Mr.
1:21Dwayne, how was your week five NFL?
1:24>> Oh man, it was fantastic. other than pushing Jaden Daniels outside of my top 12 quarterbacks because of the weather.
1:30His his weapons are hurt. Ian, who cares? You know, the Giants are just going to turn their back to him and run
1:36man coverage and Jaden Daniels is going to do Jaden Daniels things. Uh, unfortunately did, you know, maybe something you don't want to call a Jaden
1:42Daniels thing at the end, but we'll get to that. [snorts] >> Per NFL researcher, the first quarterback with multiple 25 plus yard
1:48rushing touchdowns since that Mike Vic game back in 2002. the incomparable Mike Vic. How performs from Jaden Daniels.
1:55Good to see him healthy. Unfortunately, there are other players who are not so healthy after another slate of battle between modern-day Gladiators. Also got
2:02utilization notes, some sheesh business, and just good vibes all along the way.
2:05So, we appreciate you guys hanging out.
2:07And with that, guys, let get let's get things started by rolling back that clock to London. The early game, the Jaguars somehow beat the Eagles in a day
2:14that was filled with crazy games. This was maybe the craziest. 19 to 17. Cam Little 57 yd field goal for the win.
2:21After the Eagles has seemingly captured a victory themselves with just 8 seconds left, Philly did cover a seven and a half point dogs, the undercash of 41 and
2:29a half. It was a better effort than expected, at least, you know, in terms of what I was thinking from Jayen Herz
2:33and company. Ultimately, not enough though. But winners write the history books. We'll start off with the Jaguars who didn't need to be in this rock
2:40fight, but when you don't score a single touchdown any of your three trips into the red zone, these are the sorts of
2:45things that are going to happen. But Trevor Lawrence 331 yards and two touchdowns both to our one true king Chop Wood Carrie Water Parker Washington
2:53151 yard score that showed off the yak and another one-handed touchdown later Dwayne for good measure. I hope that people weren't scared off of Parker
3:01Washington because of one bad game in week four. But if they were like we're good now guys. It's Parker Washington.
3:06He's a wide receiver one.
3:08>> Yeah I don't think they were. I mean, if you're reading anything from anyone, I don't I don't I don't think anyone was
3:12pushed away from Parker Washington, but uh maybe you got to buy low. Maybe that worked out for you. But 30.4 fantasy
3:18points today. Ian 86% route participation rate, 24% target share at nine targets on the day. Two red zone targets, two end zone targets. You
3:25talked about one of those that he pulled down with one hand. What an amazing catch. Just throw this man the ball. It
3:30doesn't really matter. And uh the Eagles, man, despite having a good pass defense, continue to have a weak link at slot. Now, Parker Washington's a really
3:39good slot wide receiver. So, it's kind of like, uh, duh. And he didn't just play from the slot today 34% of the
3:44time. So, he was playing all over the place, but just something to remember about the Eagles guys. While they are a
3:48good passing defense, uh, the guys that get to move around, get into the slot do tend to eat. Otherwise, Brian Thomas Jr.
3:55goose egg out there. Could have, should have, would have had a touchdown late, but wasn't able to get that second foot
4:00down. Seemed like his heel maybe got down first. I don't know. Some people were angrier about the nonall than myself. Josh Cameron though continuing
4:07to really wind up working as number three receiver in Jacksonville. Had a sweet game opening kick return for a touchdown and got called back on a
4:14holding and there was also fights going on in the middle of the field as well.
4:17So again very very eventful >> double ejection wasn't it right away.
4:21>> Double ejection right just guys going all green street hooligans you know in London went in uh Tottenham or wherever they were playing I guess. But the only
4:28other notes I had for the pass catchers, Brettton Strange, another really nice game, man. Caught seven of eight targets for 68 yards and he was tackled just
4:35short of the goal line on two separate occasions. So got the obvious, you know, boom against the Bengals in week four,
4:40but proving to maybe Dwayne be capable of actually more consistent production.
4:44You do look at the yards per outr run leaderboard over these past two seasons, he is up there in some very, very good
4:49company.
4:50>> He is uh and like you mentioned, it's back-to-back good games, 13.8 PPR points today. And when you look at the way that
4:55the Jaguars are running their offense, they're they're using the multiple tight end stuff. And so that also works to Britain Strain's advantage because
5:03whenever they're out there in 12 or 13 personnel, that means you don't have a guy like Brian Thomas Jr. or potentially
5:08a Jacobe Meyers or one of Parker Washington on the field and that makes it easier for him to earn a target. So
5:13yes, I will be moving Britain Strange up. I would say high-end tight end to Ian and then maybe if he has another
5:19game like this, we end up getting him into the low-end tight end one conversation. I will say if they move on
5:23from BTJ then that's going to be like a stamp of we are going to continue to just run this heavy personnel stuff and
5:29at that point I think we would feel more comfortable uh with Strange. But Brian Thomas Jr. only a 59% route share again
5:35today. He was technically the wide receiver three but Josh Cameron like you said nipping at his heels and honestly just looking every good every bit as
5:41good as BTJ on his opportunities.
5:44>> Also looking very good out there. Bashaw Tutin. I swear guys, I know if you're just looking at the fantasy points, you
5:50might think that we're trying to pull a fast one on you, but 72 rushing yards, 24 receiving yards, had seven missed
5:55tackles for so that was tied for the second highest mark on the week. And out of those 72 rushing yards, 73 came after
6:02contact. So yeah, think about that one for a little bit next time you're smoking up. Going to blow your freaking mind. But look, man, he's been very
6:08impressive this whole season. Again, all these kind of nerdy efficiency stats, they all tell us he's up there with basically Kenneth Walker and Bejon
6:15Robinson and the best running backs in the league. Hasn't had the huge runs out there, but they should be coming. It's
6:20just frustrating, Dwayne, because Chris Rodriguez comes in there when they get near the goal line. And as we saw today, he probably should have lost a fumble,
6:27but they called the play dead early and then they did a Wildcat thing later where all of a sudden he was, you know,
6:32Chris Rodriguez was behind center. They had a false start. They were planning on him again running the ball from the one.
6:38Then to really make matters worse, Chris Rodriguez sabotaged his own teammate and whiffed on a block. Did finally decide to give the ball to Toutin. So it's
6:46frustrating. We all want more from Toutin unless he played him in fantasy.
6:49I get it. Is the usage at least continuing to go in a promising direction?
6:54>> Yeah. Yeah. So I mean the snaps the last three games for Toutin 48% to 57% to 66% today. So again, it's like Ian says,
7:03like it's it's like it's not really a very fun consolation prize because you got 11.6 PPR points and that's not maybe
7:10it didn't lose your matchup, but it's certainly not helping you win your matchup. We had a lot of 30 burgers this
7:14week uh from some fantasy stars. So you might have ran into a complete buzzsaw, but I think you still have to look at
7:20this as a positive. And and Toutin was a guy that a couple weeks ago when the buzz was so crazy, I was like, "Yeah, I
7:25would sell high if somebody already thinks he's a high-end running back, too." Now I'm at the point where I'm like, well, he's probably actually
7:31headed for mid-range to high-end running back two territory. I mean, we've got three really strong data points. It's not like any of the other guys are
7:37looking that good. Yoquent Allen continues to get a little bit of work, but 15% snap share today. The big thing is was the second week in a row Ian were
7:44Abdullah did not get any work. Only 2% of the snaps today. He's just basically playing special teams at this point. And
7:50these last two games, we talked about it last week, they have been uh more competitive games. So, I think this could be the other thing that just in
7:56these games where the Jaguars are, you know, coming down to [snorts] the end trying to win it, it does look like like
8:01they want to lean on Tuton. So, I'm I'm reading into this snapshare increases being a positive thing.
8:07>> I just wish [laughter] we could see the offensive line do a little bit more for him, man, because again, we make the
8:12excuses and they're not really excuses.
8:14I think it's just adding context to the struggles of guys like Ashton Genty and Quinn Sean Judkins. Dead last though this year in RB rush yards before
8:21contact for carry, it's your Jacksonville Jaguars. So, as we see, you know, a lot of times the really good play callers like Liam Cohen are able to
8:27help mass out to the best of their abilities. Certainly not getting a ton of help, though. So far, >> Zack Bond also just played like a maniac
8:33today. I mean, that dude was like, he came back from injury. Uh, I mean, that guy was just like, you probably loved
8:38it, Ian. Like, watching Zack Bond, being a former linebacker yourself, that dude was filling some gaps.
8:44>> Was he on your IDP team?
8:46>> No, he's not. I But I was just I I wish I would have got him on my IDP team three years ago, but [clears throat]
8:51it's Dynasty. And you know, my guy Perry has got him. He's not letting go of Zack Bond. The dude is a beast.
8:57>> I've just picked it up after doing this for many, many years with you.
9:00When I started hearing about a linebacker having a really good game, I'm like, how many points did he score for Dwayne in his IDP [laughter] this
9:06week?
9:06>> Good call by you, but no.
9:07>> Again, good job by the Jaguars, too, for getting that W. Going to be staying in hometown London to face the Houston
9:13Texans here next week. Meanwhile, for the Eagles, 18 carries for 22 rushing yards, guys. That is pretty easily the lowest mark that we've seen with Jaylen
9:22Herz there. The previous low was 45. The lowest for the Eagles as a team since 2014. So had nothing going on the
9:29ground. Will Shipley went out there, scored a short touchdown to not completely kill you. Unfortunately, suffered a foot injury and is out of the
9:35picture. And speaking of the RB rush yards before contact per carry, guys, from 2021 to 2025, the Eagles were first in that metric. This year they are 26.
9:43So offensive line is broken. I don't exactly see it moving in a positive direction. The one good thing I would say Dwayne is Jaylen Herz went out there
9:50and I thought put a good showing for himself again against a pretty tough Jaguars defense. Obviously had all the storylines going in. Hadn't allowed a
9:57first half, you know, touchdown or anything like that. He found, you know, apparently superstar Darius Cooper deep down the sideline for a long score. Also
10:04some nice balls to Dantavian Wix. I know he missed him deep for what could have been a 59 yard touchdown, but can we lay
10:09out for it a little bit Wix? I don't know, man. So, um, it wasn't an abysmal performance from Jaylen Hurst. I don't
10:15think he's getting It's a It's a tough thing, Dwayne, cuz we probably didn't give enough credit to all the help that
10:20Herz was getting over the years, but now I don't think people are giving enough credit to the lack of help at Herz.
10:25>> Yeah. I mean, it's it's pretty rough. Uh I think the analytics would say just throw it to Darius Cooper every play.
10:30You'd have like 80 touchdowns on the year. [laughter] Well, I mean, I guess you'd have like 300 if you threw the
10:34rest of your passes to him for the rest of the year. Uh but yeah, I mean, you've got Devonte Smith banged up. Dallas did
10:40come back today, but clearly like not himself. You know, he had the PCL injury. Um, but when you look at like
10:45what the Eagles were trying to do today, they did respect the Jaguars defense.
10:49They were trying to get the ball out a little bit quicker and they just honestly didn't have to they didn't have
10:53the run after the catch stuff. You did hit uh, you know, Darius Cooper on the deeper shot down the field. He ends up
10:59running away from everybody to score the touchdown. You mentioned the uh, play for Wix, you know, where he needed to lay out. Um, I don't really have much
11:06more to add. I mean, Mai Lemon, 88% route share, 9.3 PPR points, continues to be on my screen running free uh of
11:13coverage. And uh I will say that Jaylen Herz continues to not see him. So, I'm a little more today. 19% target share. He
11:19had seven on the on the day. So, he he did have more targets than Cooper. Uh but not not much to add. We'll see with
11:25Dallas. Maybe he gets healthier. But the PCL thing, you know, that can be tricky.
11:28Uh I will say on the offensive line front, just real quick, Landon Dickerson is eligible to return next week. I know
11:34Cam Jurgens's traded, Lane Johnson retires. So, you're like, "Okay, great."
11:38But if you are looking for a silver lining, I mean, that can't hurt if you can get Landon Dickerson back and get
11:43him healthy.
11:44>> Eagles take on the Panthers next week.
11:46Not the most formidable defense in the world. So, hopefully we again see a bounce back there. Moving on, we had the
11:51Jets take down the Browns 17 to 12 in a very, very rainy uh condition game here.
11:55So, keep that in mind when going through some of the passing stats in particular.
11:58Jets again won and covered his two and a half point faves. The under of course cash here at 38 and a half points. So
12:03sloppy game and a you know kind of season I guess that's been full of them with penalties at an all-time high. Jets
12:09again no stranger to that. 10 penalties for 102 yards today. Gino Smith took four sacks, lost a fumble. Both these teams seemed like they kind of wanted to
12:16give the give away the game at the end.
12:18Jets ended up snatching out that victory. But really, man, it was just two really big time performances here.
12:22Brilon Allen 116 yards rushing and a touchdown and Garrett Wilson with 104 receiving yards and a touchdown in his own right. So last week, Dwayne, it was
12:30a very small sample size for Braille Allen because they only ran 32 plays against the Chicago Bears out there, but it was a dominant snap rate for him. Did
12:37that persist in the more normal game?
12:39>> Yeah. Uh 86% snap share. Uh he had 83% of the rushing attempts, 24 carries on the day, 80% route share, 14% target
12:47share. So I mean that's as good as of a role as as you can find. You know, now we would like to be in an offense that
12:53scores more points overall, but like that is elite. Like that's like JT premium level is what you're getting right there from Allen. So, we'll see
13:01how much longer Bree Hall is out, you know, with the quad injury. But if he misses again, you know, I think we'll
13:05all have uh Mr. Brilland Allen, you know, in the mid-range to high-end running back, too conversation, and he definitely belongs there. Isaiah Davis
13:12is just a completely non-factor. A complete non-factor at this point.
13:16>> When you watch Bree Hall run the football and you watch Brilon Allen run the football, you ever think maybe Brilen Allen's kind of good? Yeah,
13:26Brandon Allen is good, man. 4.2 yards after contact today. 21% of his carries went for 10 plus yards. Dude was absolutely not not just getting fed the
13:33ball like he was balling >> and and you know how it is, Ian. In those wet games, they know the passing
13:39game is going to struggle. That also brings down average depth of target. And what does that do? That brings all the
13:43defenders close closer to the line of scrimmage. They're playing the run even more in these kind of games. So, I think
13:48it's a major hat tip to to Brillin Allen. out the the Browns didn't have Mason Graham today and so there were
13:54some injuries on their defensive line.
13:56They're not quite, you know, what they normally are, but still like they're expecting the run and Brilen Allen still did this.
14:02>> I was just looking it up actually for uh Olly Gordon in Miami because again he's another guy where my eyes just tell me
14:07they're consistently breaking tackles.
14:08They're big large human beings that are pushing these piles. And in terms of yards after contact for carry this year, Ali and Baron Allen are top 12. And you
14:16know, Bree Hall and Deon Han are died tied for dead last. So, I know Han's not coming back this year. I do wonder
14:22though, man, and we'll see how it plays out, but Brilland's been so effective on the ground. I just wonder if Bree is
14:27even going to be able to get back to that, you know, 70 plus role.
14:30>> I and I really like Bree Hall as well. I think we both do. But I think that Brilen Allen is playing well enough that
14:36and they were wanting to do this earlier in the year anyway. And so I think, you know, when you come out and you play
14:41this way and you also have a head coach that even back in training camp talked about a three-headed monster, which I
14:46don't think we'll see, but easily could have the two-headed monster. And hey, maybe that [clears throat] keeps Breeze fresher. He starts ripping off bigger
14:52runs. He's used more so as a receiver.
14:54That is their thing because unfortunately Kenyan Sadi got knocked out of this game with a concussion. Omar Cooper has been on IR. If we can get
14:59Bree Hall back and now he's just really being leaned on. He's getting six to eight targets per game, we can live with
15:05some level of a committee. But hey, something to keep an eye on. Very, very good game from Brillin. And again, Garrett Wilson as well, now on pace,
15:10Dwayne, even including the very weird 32 snap game from last week. Garrett Wilson on pace for 143 targets, 105 receptions, over,200 yards and 10 touchdowns. I know
15:21my big rule this offseason was trying to draft draft Cardinals or Jets. But Gary Wilson, man, in particular, that was painful being one of my favorite
15:28Buckeyes over the years, and he's making me look like an even bigger idiot than usual so far. Yeah, I think it's just
15:33that Gino Smith, while he may not be what he once was, right, whenever he spiked, you know, a few years ago, like
15:39he's a competent passer, like he's accurate enough to get the guy the ball.
15:43He's willing to throw into tight windows. Uh, you know, he can make it through his progression. So, I just I think it's a really good fit with
15:49Garrett Wilson, and that is one thing we talked about this preseason. It's kind of like, uh, the way it was with JSN and
15:54and Sam Darnold, right? It's a similar kind of connection that these two have.
15:58So, I think Wilson's in a really good spot. 23.4 four PPR points today. Didn't even rarely left the field. 97% route
16:05share, 38% target share. So, yeah, looking really good right now for Mr.
16:09Garrett Wilson. And and honestly, they're not doing a lot of scheme stuff to help him. He is playing a little bit
16:13from the slot. 28% today, which is around where he's been for the year, like 20 to 30% each game. Uh but they're
16:19not like getting him involved with a lot of play action and stuff like that. I mean, Garrett Wilson's essentially just out here doing this on his own with him
16:25and Gino vibing, >> breaking tackles, making contested catches, just doing a bunch of king [ __ ] out there. So, shout out to Garrett
16:31Wilson. He's going to be someone pushing very, very highly in the ranks next week against the Patriots if the entire Patriots quarterback room remains all
16:38kinds of banged up. Meanwhile, for the Cleveland Browns, just 198 total yards, three yards per play, mostly because Deshun Watson took eight different sacks
16:47out there. So, he had four official drops. I heard the the number of six was being floated around as well maybe on
16:52the broadcast or you know a different source or something like that. So again it was a rainy game. He didn't have a
16:57lot of help going but yeah eight sacks going to be tough to again be leading their offense to too many points.
17:02Luckily he did play quarterback well enough on one snap to go find Denzel Boston for a 27 yard touchdown. When I
17:08was looking up the ranks earlier today Dwayne around 530 Denzel Boston now the wide receiver 14 in PPR points this season. So again, it was one of those
17:16situations where at least with two by weeks, I don't know about you, but I got Denzel up around that wide receiver two
17:20borderline. And looking ahead to next week, man, against the Ravens where, you know, not a bad defense, but not one I'm
17:26particularly terrified of at this point in the season. Denzel Boston, man, might be cracking the top 24. And why not?
17:31He's been producing like it.
17:32>> Yeah. Three for 46 yards and a touchdown today. I mean, mo mostly working down the field, 13.6 average depth of target,
17:3895 air yards. Um, so he's still a bit boom busty in my opinion because of like the offense and the and the kind of role
17:44that he's playing. But you can't argue with the fact that he has been very good in said role. So I do think that that's
17:49a positive for Boston. We also lost Casey Conpsion. Man, he took a wicked hit in this game in the first quarter.
17:55He left with a concussion. He was a guy that had moved into a 100% route participation rate last uh last week.
18:02And he's a guy that's more likely to earn targets. So I think with him out now Jerry Judy stepped in like today and
18:06had his targets 22% target share for him. seven targets, 89% route share, so he got right back into that wide receiver 2 role. And we had Isaiah Bond
18:15working as the wide receiver three, mostly doing the deep stuff we know Isaiah Bond for. He had a 16.6 average depth of target with 116 area yards. But
18:22I do agree on Boston like boom bust wide receiver 3 is where I'll be at. Uh you know, as we get more teams on by to your
18:28point though, like he could creep towards that wide receiver two borderline.
18:32>> Harold Fannon duted in this one. Just one catcher, four scoreless yards. I'd like to think he'll be getting more Yak
18:37opportunities if we do see again Casey Concept, you know, missing a lot of time out there. But then again, Fannon, you
18:42know, hasn't exactly been the same beast in his own right this season. So maybe needs to pick it up a little bit
18:46himself. Going to remain again more so around that borderline tight end one spot as opposed to someone who needs to be in our starting lineups until proven
18:53otherwise. You mentioned the KC injury, Dwayne, but also had a Quinn Sean Judkins sighting in a walking boot after the game. So we've had a couple of these
19:01where the guys were in walking boots and they wound up being just fine. didn't even have a questionable designation going into Sunday. So, I don't want to
19:07sound the alarms too much, but if it is an issue, I guess we all got to get ready to learn Rocket Sanders, pal.
19:13>> Yeah, Raheem Sanders 29% of the snaps today, but right behind him was Jal Mclofflin, you know, at 20% of the
19:19snaps. Uh, you know, Mclofflin didn't have a carry. Sanders had 14% of them.
19:24So, really those two guys were playing like the passing down role, but theoretically, one of them would have to step forward, and I would say that it
19:30would be Sanders would be more likely to get the rushing attempt. Dylan Samson's technically eligible to return week six, but sounds more like a November to mid
19:37November return date for him whenever you read a little bit deeper into the injury reports.
19:42>> Now, with all that said, Rocket Sanders, I think very much someone we're talking like 10 15% fab for the love of God to
19:48not be blowing all your fat.
19:50>> For sure. For sure. Yep.
19:51>> And with that guys, let's move on to an NFC North famous rivalry, but it was not a very tight one today. The Packers beat
19:58down the Bears 31 to7 winning outright as one and a half point home dogs under cashier of 47. Green Bay guys 7.3 yards
20:06for play in large part because Jordan Love was slinging that thing downfield.
20:09Goodness gracious. 367 and a pair of touchdowns through the air both to Christian Watson. He completed five passes thrown 30 plus yards downfield.
20:17Guys, that has not happened in a game since Big Ben Rothosberger back in 2015.
20:23Man, not post elbow Big Ben. Prime freaking AB Big Ben out there. probably Martavis Bryant on the other other end of some of those catches as well. So
20:31great game there, man. Again, Buck 43 and two touchdowns to Christian Watson.
20:35He is now fourth in receiving yards in the NFL. And is he even the clear number one on this team? I don't know cuz
20:40Matthew Golden is sixth in the NFL in receiving yards right now. Had 123 on his own. Looked like it was going to be
20:45a little bit of a dut of the day. But I don't know, Dwayne, like we're reaching the point with the Packers where Watson
20:50and Golden are good enough where they just kind of do the old like Pton Manny, Demarius Thomas, uh, Manny Sanders thing
20:56where it's like, oh man, or Eric Decker as well. It's like, oh man, I I didn't get this guy involved enough today.
21:02Like, let's try to go get him out, get him a touchdown. And they've been good enough to actually make that happen. So,
21:07I was not terrified of this Bears matchup, but they did play a lot better football in weeks two and four after the
21:13Panthers game. man. Christian Watson, Matthew Golden. They face the Cowboys next Sunday night, Dwayne, which is very, very sad for us because we're
21:20Cowboys fans. I got to watch them beat our secondary like a drum. I want to put both of them in my top 12, though. And
21:26you're not going to stop me.
21:27>> No, I'm I'm not going to stop you. I'm probably going to join you. How about that? Yeah. I mean, Christian Watson,
21:31like I think the big thing today, guys, um is even though the Packers had more offensive line injuries, they did finally protect Jordan Love. Only a 24%
21:41pressure rate like on the season coming into this game. I want to see was like 45%. I think the second or third most
21:46pressured guy like Justin Herbert was leading the league and pressures coming into the weekend. And so you finally got, you know, everything blocked up and
21:53look what's h look what happens. Jordan Love comes out here with a 10.5 average depth of target today. Getting this ball
21:59pushed down the field, very aggressive, uh, running lots of play action. 35% of their drop backs had play action today.
22:05Under center 44%. So like this is the kind of Packers offense that we envision. And you know, the offensive line just has been, you know, not
22:12cooperative. Now, Christian Watson and and Matthew Golden have still been fine like despite all that. But today, you get an idea of what the ceiling game can
22:20look like. And that's what you're talking about, Ian. And you combine for 50.52.5 fantasy points between those two guys.
22:2732.3 to Watson, 20.3 to Matthew Golden.
22:31Nice for Watson. 88% route share. We saw a little bit of a dip last week and we talked about it on the show. He was kind
22:36of over on the sideline in week four, you know, squatting down. looked like he might I don't know if he was just out of
22:40breath. We don't know what was going on, but back into a playing closer to that elite 90% route share that we we want to
22:46see from wide receivers, man. Three end zone targets today for Christian Watson.
22:50Uh 185 error yards. Yeah, look, I could go on and on about these two guys.
22:53They're really good. Agree with you.
22:55Playing the Cowboys like there's no one there to stop them. Maybe they both have 200 yards receiving next weekend.
23:00>> Maybe Tucker Craft tacks on an extra 100 for uh you know, good measure as well.
23:04Caught all five of his targets for 64 yards today. Did you notice Dwayne on the long Tucker craft catch that was the
23:09exact same play that you got a bird's eye view on when Luke Musgrave went for like 40 yards in that wild card game
23:14when he know he was just no one within 30 yards of him. So good good seeing Matt Laflur back in his bag man because
23:20that was one of the surprising things on uh Thursday when I'm done writing all my previews and stuff. I've got most of my
23:25recordings out of the way. I like to try to look at some bigger picture scheme stuff and we've always talked about it
23:29Dwayne the easy buttons play action pre- snap shift emotion and Matt Lafllor's Packers have routinely been near the top of the league in those bottom five
23:36though in both entering this week I don't have the numbers up in front of me those usually take a little bit longer
23:41but man maybe it was just you know having Ben Johnson come in obviously a lot of feelings there mafllor in this
23:47passing game clearly wanted to make a statement and I would say they did that said we know we're talking about some
23:52ballers in the passing game Marshon Lloyd we're not we're not dead Yeah, Dwayne. Two touchdowns. One of them was a truck stick. Let's go.
23:59>> Yeah, like he looked good. I mean, he got so low on that. He got so low on one defender just like Yeah, it was it was a
24:06great great play by Lloyd. Uh, so looking a little more like what we wanted. The role didn't really change.
24:1016.7 PPR points, but 44% of the snaps, 44% of the attempts. We still had 22% of the attempts go to Pierre Strong, uh,
24:18who played today for, uh, Chris Brooks.
24:21And then we had Caleb Johnson getting 30% of the attempts. So, they still had a three-way split here, but like the
24:26silver lining is the fact that yeah, Marshon Lloyd clearly looked the best, right, of the three guys. So, sometimes that can open up a little bit more
24:33playing time. Not all the time, guys.
24:34We've studied this efficiency stuff. And it's not like Lloyd was great. Three point yards, 3.1 yards per carry today, but 1.9 of it did have to come after
24:42contact. So, we'll see what happens, but it does look like Lloyd is still like at least the lead of the committee right
24:48now, and maybe he can grow that role a little a little bit more. It did seem like Caleb was pretty much only in there
24:54once Garbage Time got going, right?
24:56>> Uh I didn't break it down. You know, he had only had 2.6 points, uh but 30 30% of the rushing attempt. So, if that's
25:02the case, then yeah, that would be a bigger positive for Lloyd.
25:05>> Feeling pretty good there. I did see Fantasy Life's own Zayn point out that Lloyd's last snap was the beginning of
25:10the fourth quarter. Caleb was not really getting going until the fourth quarter.
25:14So, who knows? Maybe this is all just for nothing because Josh Jacobs is going to get finally some news come out soon
25:19and ruin all of our best laid Marshon Lloyd plans. But at least for one glorious Sunday, Marshon Lloyd drafters sitting there at 0 and4 most likely were
25:26able to at least get a two touchdown game there.
25:28>> Right now 64% of the rushing attempts uh in the first three quarters for Lloyd uh 57% of the snaps. So if if if that's
25:36really the role they want to have him in, then yeah, absolutely. That's a miss on my part. That would be a big upgrade
25:41from Marshon Lloyd. And man, just with four teams I'm by going up against the freaking Cowboys. I'm not getting Lloyd in the top 12 or anything like that. But
25:48I actually think I will be starting him with some level of confidence. Yeah, I'm not taking that there. But good stuff
25:54from the Packers. Obviously, you know, under a lot of scrutiny, deservely so and at least for one Sunday really did some good things. You know, didn't do
26:00good things. The Chicago Bears, Dwayne, five turnovers, 3.6 yards per play. That is the lowest single game mark that Ben Johnson has ever had. All right. all the
26:09years with the Lions, all the years with the Bears. 73 regular season games, never worse than what we saw today.
26:15Hilarious uh kind of just coincidence we had going on, guys. If you've heard of score before, that's, you know, an NFL
26:20score. That's never happened before.
26:22There's another Twitter account that does QB got me. So, they look at, you know, the yards, the touchdowns, the interceptions, and they say if that has
26:28been a stat line that's ever happened before. Tyson Tabagent, 87 yards, zero touchdowns, two picks. Case Keenum, 108 yards, zero touchdowns, one pick. Both
26:38of those stat lines were last achieved by JJ McCarthy. So again, we live in a simulation. If you're not con if you
26:44haven't been convinced, you should be now. So yeah, they were horrific, Dwayne, which was probably due. All right, they are backup quarterbacks for
26:51a reason. The fact that they were so good and this offense kept on humming was awfully surprising without Caleb Williams. Hopefully we get Caleb back
26:58soon per Ben Johnson after the game.
27:00He's on track. We'll see if that's Atlanta or after. I think it's going to be close. Personally, I think the fact
27:04he was even questionable for this and was out there in practice on Friday, pretty good indication, Dwayne, that we should have Caleb back out there in week
27:11six when the Bears take on the Falcons.
27:13>> Yeah, absolutely. Uh he was pushing this week, you know, at limited practice to to finish out the week, so it does feel
27:19like we're going to get Caleb back and we we do need him. Uh 87 yards for Begant. Uh we did have 108 from Case
27:26Keenum who came in late, but they just weren't really able to get much going.
27:29Uh the one thing I would say about like since we're talking about the passing game, Romo Dun, um if we look at him
27:34over these last three games, his routes, his route share has gone from 86% to 89% to 100% in this game. And some of this
27:43is early data, guys, so it could be a little bit off, but I feel pretty confident in the trend. Like Rome is
27:47growing and then the targets 18% then 23% and then 23% in this game. So Odun only five PPR points today. Really hard
27:56to score points. one of your quarterbacks can't get much going. But I do think it's incur encouraging that we have more playing time and obviously
28:02with Lovelin like he's just, you know, he's kind of an afterthought right now in the offense. He only had a 13% target
28:08share. So it really comes down to potentially just being around Odun and Burton because Khif Raymond had another dud today the day only 60% of the
28:15routes, 3.4 PPR points, only a 10% target share. So, if this thing were to get consolidated and you get Caleb Williams back and it's really around
28:22Burden and Odunay, we might have something with Odun. Even though he is getting more of the deep stuff, uh, you know, if you're the if you're just one
28:30of the two main guys in a Bears offense that we like, uh, we'll see what happens with him.
28:34>> Hey, I haven't been too impressed what Anun has done with those targets. But, you know what? That was also true for
28:39one Marvin Harrison Jr. last year, and he still managed to give us games out of those targets. So, if we can again at
28:44least keep these targets up, why not for a Dunay? But I'm just starting to think sadly, Dwayne. I mean, if you would have
28:49asked me five, six weeks ago, like, what's the answer to what pass catcher in Chicago to draft? I probably would have said yes. In fact, I probably even
28:56made that quirky little dumb joke that looks ridiculous in hindsight now. Cuz now I'm just wondering, is it no?
29:01Because Coulson Lovelin, two catches for 19 yards, man, just five targets out there. Like I I know Beijing and Keenum weren't necessarily helping the cause
29:09here, but I remember going through the tight end ranks this last week and just saying like, look, I don't think we're
29:13getting the top five heights from Lovelin that we drafted them for, and that sucks. But I'd be pretty freaking surprised if we're not at least
29:19consistently ranking him in the top 10 by the end of the year. Well, let's just say I would be less surprised after what
29:24we saw again today. [laughter] >> Yeah. I mean, you you hit it. I mean, 79% routes like it's fine. Like he's
29:30getting close to that 80% mark, but only a 13% target share. I don't think he's suddenly like just like an untalented
29:36player, but you know, we were dealing with a small sample to end last year and we're dealing with a small sample to
29:42start this year and they're at this point those two things are canceling each other out. So, all we really have is a guy that we liked as a prospect at
29:48this point. So, I think we do have to consider and I had him outside the top 12 this week, but I I tend to still
29:53agree with your sentiment that like I will still be surprised if Leland's not a top 12. I don't know if he'll be a top
30:0010, but again to your point like that's not what you drafted Coloulston Lovelin to be. Sad sad sad stuff. Even DeAndre
30:07Swift man a game where we didn't have Kungai. Maybe we are going to be having no more games without Kungai. Last year
30:14when there was no Swift, it was the Kung guy show, man. Had like 30 touches in that Bengals game. I think his snap rate
30:19was up there around the 70% mark. Did not seem to be the case today for DeAndre Swift.
30:24>> No, it wasn't. Uh I mean, even early on in the game, they were rotating in Roshan Johnson. Now, DeAndre Swift was
30:30dealing with a couple of injuries this week. He ultimately did get to a full practice, was off of the injury report,
30:34but it does sound like he was a little bit dinged up. gave you 17.3 PP PR points, so you were fine with it, but
30:40finished with a 70 57% snap share, 43% of the rushing attempts for the team. I will say in the first three quarters
30:46before it was completely out of hand, uh he was at a 75% snap share. So, does sound like he was still the lead guy,
30:53but they were working in Roshan Johnson to help relieve him of some of those rushing attempts. So, Johnson finished up with five carries, nine for DeAndre
31:00Swift on the day. Uh, and Swift still looked good. 48 4.8 yards per carry.
31:06gave you the rushing touchdown. He also caught four balls for 30 yards. Uh he had a 13% target share in this one. So
31:12we'll see what happens with Mongai.
31:13We've got the thumb uh you know injury as well as uh what was the other injury that he had late last week. Ian toe toe
31:20injury which was dislo dislocated like was it twice or was that Rico Dowel? I can't remember. Anyway, he was dealing with a toe uh injury as well. So we'll
31:28see what happens with Manungi. But I I'll be very willing to go right back to Swift like as being a top 12 running
31:33back if we don't have Manungi next week.
31:35Yeah, again it's all your starting if you got them. We're not going to be ranking them top five. Guess what? I'm
31:39not going to be ranking them outside the top 15, though. But again, tough matchup here against the Falcons. We'll see what
31:44they do tonight. But that front seven has been feisty to start this season.
31:48Moving along, we had the Texans get their first W of the year. Beat down the Titans 26-3. Houston covering with ease.
31:53A six and a half point road faves under Dick Cash at 37 and a half here. So Texans Dwayne, we'll talk about the game
32:00in a second cuz they traded for Marvin Harrison Jr. All right. and the freaking worstkept secret out there that I am
32:05just confused why the NFL insiders felt the need to keep a secret. Actually, I'm not surprised because they always freaking do this stuff. We don't need
32:12national mouthpieces just to repeat things that teams already tell us. We already have that. It's whatever. You guys have heard my rants before, but
32:19Texans got Marvin Harrison Jr. and a seventh round pick. The Cardinals got a second and a sixth out of him. It's a
32:25Nico Collins show. We're not going to be going trying to start Marv this week or anything like that. What is your level
32:31of optimism though, Dwayne, that we can get maybe an upside wide receiver three?
32:35Like would you just be shocked if Marvin Harrison Jr. is the wide receiver 34 the rest of the season?
32:41>> No, I wouldn't be shocked with that. I think like wide receiver three is like a realistic like expectation. I think for
32:47him to outdo that like we would that's where we would probably be like okay that's really impressed and that's we're impressed and that's doing better than
32:54what we thought. But I will say this, like with the Texans, like the concerning thing is like everybody they've brought in has essentially been
33:01an outside perimeter boundary downfield guy. Like that's what they've been trying with Booty. It hasn't been working. Uh that's kind of how they've
33:08been trying to use Xavier Hutchinson uh with the injuries. You know, you got Tank Dell coming back. Um, but I think
33:14that like if if they'll like be willing to like expand his route tree, which I would hope they would do if they're
33:20willing to give away a second round pick, like I do think there is upside for Harrison. If he gets stuck though
33:24just playing outside and doing what he's doing right now for the Cardinals, I would say the upgrade you're getting is well, you don't have to deal with Trey
33:31McBride plus Michael Wilson, right?
33:34Someone else who's getting all these schemed looks in the offense. So, I think, you know, it's a little bit less target share. And honestly, like CJ
33:39Stout has looked pretty good this year.
33:41like and he's had to be in he threw for another 261 yards today. So, the defense even though it played well, they still
33:48threw for a lot of passing yards today.
33:49So, I think that's encouraging because that's a question you and I have had is like, well, what will like this passing
33:54attack look like whenever the Texans defense is back to like balling out? And we got that data point today and we
33:59still got 20.9 fantasy points from Straoud. So, if Stout can average like 240 to 250 yards per game, which is essentially like what he's been doing
34:06over these last several weeks, like he's actually above that right now, then I think, you know, there's probably going to be some good games, you know, from
34:12Marvin Harrison Jr. So, but I I really think the key to like significant fantasy upside that would make us super happy would would be just putting him in
34:21a role where he's not just stuck on the outside running deep stuff.
34:24>> Again, it's someone who at Ohio State was nicknamed route man Marv, which again, I always prefer Maserati Marv.
34:30And then we have obviously got the Mazda Marv which you know guess what he's performed more like a Mazda at the NFL
34:35level. Okay, no excuses. Some of the film has been damning obviously and when you do look at this graphic that they
34:40showed on the broadcast top five overall draft picks traded within the first three seasons since 2000 the names are not good. Dwayne Trey Lance, Trent
34:48Richardson, Aaron Curry and Gaines Adams from the 2007 Buccaneers. So again, history not exactly on Marv's size, but I would say when you do look at an
34:57organization that maybe wasn't doing the right things for him, wouldn't say the Arizona Cardinals, you know, deserve the benefit of the doubt from that angle as
35:04well. So reunited with CJ Stout, again, not getting too crazy here, but more of a boomer wide receiver three and an
35:10offense that's got a QB with some chemistry with him, willing to push the ball downfield. If you guys were like me
35:15and you know you have Marv on some teams and you at least kept him there hoping for a trade, I think we should be
35:19feeling at least somewhat good about now having someone that we could maybe just maybe start and not want to unal alive
35:24ourselves with. But you did mention CJ Stra man QB13 EPA per drop back. The freaking rolling out to his left touchdown of Jaylen Noel was awesome.
35:33Rolling out to his right he made one of the best throws I saw all day to Kahan Booty. So, keeping on keeping on and
35:37making himself a lot of money after not going ahead and, you know, taking that $50 million per year contract, which is
35:43crazy, Dwayne, as a I'm I'm very happy with my life financially, but just imagining turning down $50 million per year is freaking nuts to me, man. I'm
35:53sure you as well. But great stuff from Straoud in the passing game.
35:56Unfortunately, uh, we did have an injury here. David Montgomery left pretty early with a groin, but it did lead to a
36:02workhorse role for Woody Marks. And I guess this was one of the ideas behind the marks where it's like I don't know
36:08if we're ever going to be able to get too much flex value that we're feeling great about if Monty's out there. But
36:13with a growing injury, man, could be missing a few games next week. Houston is against a tough Jaguars. Runy again just saw they did against Philly. But
36:20based on what we saw today, man, Woody, just based on volume alone, looks like someone who could be slot inside the top
36:2620. Yeah, I mean 12.5 PPR points today, 84% of the snaps, 63% of the rushing attempts, 15 carries for 62 yards, 4.1
36:34yards per carry. Uh he had a carry inside the five, 100% of the snaps inside the five, 81% route share, 12%
36:42target share. So you've got a guy that can catch the ball out of the backfield, was really good at that in college, had
36:47didn't necessarily play out that way last year, but it is something that he does have in his bag. So it's theoretically really an every down bag.
36:55Like what I would say is like a close comparison would be like a Rashad White Ian. Like when Rashad White has a
37:00full-time role, it's not like we're just like, "Oh my god, like he's going to blow up for 30 fantasy points, but
37:04you're like he might score 17." Like that's very plausible like in the role that Woody Marks is going to be playing.
37:10>> Uh don't expect a lot of help, you know, from the Texans on the offensive line.
37:14They did get a little bit healthier this week, but they're another one of those teams that rank in the very bottom as
37:18far as yards before contact on running back carries. And that is the thing like we did see Woody really in this
37:24workhorse role for the second half of last season. We didn't get fireworks out of it. But if we are getting him now
37:29with an improved version of CJ Shroud and a defense that, let's face it, for four of the five weeks of this year
37:34hasn't looked great, I do think there could be more scoring opportunities for Woody. Honestly, kind of like he got with those goal line carries in weeks
37:40three and four. Not today though, obviously. So Woody Marks certainly going to be on the up and up. I that's just one Dwayne. I haven't checked his
37:47roster [ __ ] but like if you're really saying like go the waiverwire for Woody Marks, you know, find a new league sort
37:52of situation there. So, I know he's already on a roster. I'm not even going to entertain that. Jaylen Noel, last point here, man. This is another guy.
37:59The underlyings look good. I know he's a prospect a lot of people have been high on. 2.06 yards per out run this season.
38:05That's type of Malik Neighbors for 27th in the league. Guys, we can't I I get it like everything that happened today,
38:11we're now going to have to add Marvin Harrison Jr. to the picture. So, I'm not saying like be super hyped about Jaylen
38:15Naval this second, but did we see a full-time role there, Dwayne? Because it has been tough to get there for Houston
38:20still. Damn.
38:21>> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he's playing the slot role and he's playing it really well. Like, that's what we can say. But
38:2660% of the time he was in the slot today. 54% route share on the day, but 15.2 fantasy points. Uh 5 for 41
38:33including the long touchdown. So, I mean, this is he's a playmaker. So, he's a guy that we could see the role
38:39continue to grow as the season goes. I mean, maybe the Texans decide once they get Marv here and if Marv's playing well
38:45that they want to play more 11 personnel. Like that that's an option, especially while David Montgomery's out.
38:50Like, if you're not just going to be trying to pound the rock like into literally a wall because your offensive line can't can't block, then maybe that
38:57is something that works out for Noel eventually. Right now, like boom bust wide receiver five or six. But I think he is a he's a decent stash because he
39:05at least looks good. And we have a lot of guys that we're stashing on our rosters that don't even look good. They
39:09don't have a role and they don't look good. At least he has one of the two things. He has one of the two boxes
39:13checked.
39:14>> Again, kudos to Houston for getting that dove. They'll be facing the Jaguars again in that London theme matchup here next Sunday. And on the other side of
39:22the football, Tennessee Titans, 187 total yards, 3.2 yards per play. They have 58 points through the first five weeks of the season, guys. That is the
39:30second lowest mark since 2020. Only the 2023 Patriots were. So, got a huge boom game from Carnell Tate last week. We did
39:37not this week. He had a ton of unrealized area yards, fourth most on the week. So, they were trying to feed
39:42him the ball downfield, but it's just gonna be volatile week to week, Dwayne.
39:46Tony Pard, like if you really do hate yourself enough, still put him in your starting lineup, like he got you 5.2
39:51fantasy points. But, I mean, they're facing the Colts next week. I don't want to start in these guys.
39:57>> Yeah, I think we can move on. Like, Tate would be the only one that I would consider against the Colts playing and
40:02he's still going to he could get Sauce Gardner treatment, right? And when Sas Gardner decides to show up to these games, like he can still be a good
40:08quarterback.
40:09>> So I look, the Texans, I think, you know, they got back on track today.
40:13We've got the Titans at 0 and5. Um, and I think this was a tough matchup, you know, for Tate. So I do think next
40:19week's is technically easier than this.
40:21But I agree with you. I don't think we need to talk about anything else here.
40:24One thing I will say real quick is, uh, we did have Nick Singleton inactive.
40:28Tony Pard, you know, gave you the five points. Like you said, we're never starting Tony Pard. We'll never find him inside our top 24 ranks. Probably not
40:35even if 18 teams are on by. Like that's how stubborn I am around Tony Pard. Uh but Spears, I will say, you know, got to
40:419.8 PPR points and looks like he might be getting healthier now. Mostly came through the passing game, which is which is what we expect. Didn't have very many
40:48of the carries. Uh but Spears, you know, pretty good guy out of the backfield.
40:51And I would say if Pard ended up getting traded, Spears could kind of be in the vein of like a Woody Marks like what we
40:58just talked about. But even less because like we care less about this offense. Uh but I just remember man, I think I wrote
41:04this last week in the utilization report. I can't remember if it was 24. I think it was 2024 at the end of that
41:08year Amir Abdullah was winning people fantasy leagues on the Raiders. A terrible offense that year just because like he was catching some balls like
41:17doing a little bit with it. You know, every once in a while he'd score a touchdown and he was getting 16 to 17
41:21fantasy points per game. That that's really the kind of player that Spears is. Um so I just say keep an eye on
41:27Spears. I I picked him up off waiverss twice last week in some leagues in deep leagues and I didn't have to spend a lot
41:32to go get him.
41:34>> And to be fair, last year Tony Per had that stretch of 100 yard gains. I think came into weeks 15 and 16. So never say
41:41never. I'm with you though. It would be fun to see Spears really get unleashed.
41:44Not next week, but you can imagine what it' be like down the road. Up next, we had the Bengals take down the Dolphins
41:4931 to 24 since he pushed that seven-point phase. The over cashier at 44 and a half. So both these teams will
41:55be on buy next week. So, we don't maybe have to go too deep into everything, but hey, another W for Joe Burrow in the
42:00Bengals. He threw not one, not two, not three, but four touchdowns. Finally, one to someone we actually started in fantasy. Jamar Chase in the second half.
42:08Ridiculous, you know, jumping catch that he kind of caught like on his bicep in between a defender or two. So, great
42:13stuff from Jamar Chase. Could have been an even bigger day. Joe Burrow actually missed him for what could have been a 68
42:18yard touchdown second half as well. And even a fade in the first half that it seemed like if he had a catchable ball
42:23would have had a chance of coming down.
42:24But yes, Mike Jasiki an isolation route to Tanner Hudson that worked so go off King. All right, I'm not trying to
42:30criticize, you know, real life football working and then also got the uh Som Perine a receiving touchdown as well, Dwayne. So, we know we're getting in the
42:38passing game for the most part. The two questions I have for you, was T. Higgins badly limited out there?
42:43>> Uh 82% routes, just didn't get a lot of targets today. 13%. You know, it can just happen. They went with this
42:48multi-tight end stuff. They they had they had four tight ends with 30% route shares today. So they just went to their
42:55heavy packages and um ultimately just kind of ended up sprinkling around to those guys. Um so I think the big thing
43:01here though is Chase Brown fumbled the ball. Uh he was not efficient today and we saw a larger role for Sam Pine to
43:08your point. Uh probably a hot hand thing. We get the by-week. I'm hopeful that like we get back to the same Chase
43:14Brown role, but this is something that we've kind of seen Ian every year from Chase Brown that he his his rookie year
43:21it was really more the Zack Mos show and the injury opened the door for him later in the season, but last year we saw the
43:28really slow start. So they decided to ramp up Sam Pine into a larger role.
43:32Chase Brown was still the running back one, but it hurt him and then Perine gets hurt and then Chase Brown gets back
43:38into that lead role. So today, still a 60% snap share for Chase Brown, guys. So not bad. But remember, we've been around
43:44the 70 to 75% mark. Like the guys just not hadn't been leaving the field. The big thing was 46% of the attempts. So 13
43:51carries today. Perine had 50% of the attempts. So he got 14 rushing attempts.
43:56Uh and honestly just looked better. 14 carries for 68 yards, 4.9 yards per carry. 13 for 39 today for Chase. And
44:03and this is like he's not really he's struggled in the efficiency department all year. So, still out there, plenty for the passing down stuff, 70% route
44:11share, 100% of the two-minute offense.
44:13So, those are things we've seen Per Ryan take from him in the past. He didn't do those things today, but if we were to
44:18take away one thing from this and say, okay, how could this potentially look different when we get back from the by-week, it could be Py playing a little
44:25bit more of the base down work.
44:27>> And who can blame him, man? 95 touches this year and not one has gone for 15 yards.
44:32>> I know.
44:33>> And you're supposed to be an explosive player. Like man, >> I think it's a vision thing honestly when you watch Chase Brown. Like I feel
44:39like when things are really blocked up and like the holes there, like he is explosive. But whenever he's got to like
44:44process what's happening in front of him and then like make the little subtle movements or try to set up a linebacker
44:49on the other side of the line of scrimmage behind like his blocking, it does feel like that's an area where Chase Brown does struggle.
44:56>> I don't really want to buy low on the guy. If I have him on my team, I'm not going to give him away for a bag of
45:01peanuts, but peanuts and chips, I don't probably just a hold. You know, I I I mean, I would still be willing to buy
45:07low if I could. It depends on like, you know, how it is. It's different in every single league. Like, I would still bet
45:12on Chase Brown being the lead back uh and potentially right back into the same role we saw before. So, he's probably is
45:18a good bo, but it would need to be >> someone that's that's really down on him. They're selling him like a running
45:24back, too. And, you know, you still have a shot at having a running back one. But if someone's still treating him, you
45:28know, like a top 10 running back, it's it's you're gonna probably have a tough time feeling great about that because you're you're buying what you thought
45:34you already drafted, you [laughter] know, when you drafted Chase Brown. So, >> I just worry looking at this team and maybe Saquon's on the block, maybe he's
45:42not. You mentioned Tony Per. I'd have to go through the rosters and just try to be like who could be a potential trade
45:47candidate. But I know the Bengals for good reason fancy themselves Super Bowl contenders. And if they had to really look at where they need to improve
45:53during the bye-week, obviously it is their backfield. So stay tuned on all that. But again, nice win for the Bengals.
45:59>> You would feel terrible about trading for Chase Brown if they traded for Saquon Barkley.
46:03>> Could you imagine like my god, >> we would immediately project Chase Brown as like the backup like instantly.
46:09>> Like we would be thinking, man, I hope he has a 30% snapshare.
46:13>> I'd [snorts] be like, are you five or six behind Saquon? So >> we'll see what happens there. Again, I would listen to the trade talks. Don't
46:21give them away cuz if they don't trade for Saquon, I'm sure Chase is still going to give you, you know, at worst
46:25like mid-tier hopefully upside RB2 numbers. But yeah, so not what you guys were hoping for when you draft them at the round one two turn. Meanwhile, in
46:32Miami, here we go, man. No one ever expected the Dolphins to be good this year, but we got 24 points out there. We
46:39had Malik Willis with 74 rushing yards.
46:41Even found his way into the end zone on one of them. 18.9 fantasy points for Malik Willis actually helping some of
46:48those last place best ball squads that we have rolling on. So, just one game and the Bengals defense, while they're better than past years, I still wouldn't
46:54exactly call them a strength. But between Malik Willis and Ollie Gordon, like this is what they should be doing, Dwayne. Run the piss out of the ball.
47:01Get Malik Washington the ball in space.
47:03Like, for at least one Sunday, I'll say good job, Bobby Slow.
47:07>> And they have been doing this more the last few games. They just haven't had the plays. Today, they had 64 plays. You
47:12know, they're they're normally around like 50, which is just like absolutely terrible. So, we'll see if they can keep the play volume up, but this is kind of
47:19the offense we thought they would run even in trailing scripts, which is okay.
47:23To your point, we've got this quarterback that we can get involved in the design run game. He likes to scramble, so we're probably going to
47:29have a drop back rate even though we're going to trail a lot, like max like 52 53%. Today, we saw that at 47% of their
47:36plays, they dropped back to pass despite being behind. And it was the best game for Willis like you said, you know, and
47:42part of that was getting to the play volume, but 18.9 points for Willis today. only 137 passing yards, 5.1 per attempt. Continuing to push the ball
47:50vertically down the field though, Ian 12.6 average depth of target, one touchdown. Did throw the two picks, but it was the run game. Four scramles for
47:5773 yards. He had four designed rushing attempts. That only turned into one yard, but they did have one uh down in
48:02the green zone, guys. So, if you keep doing that kind of thing, you're going to have a chance for him to score some
48:06rushing touchdowns. Uh the big problem right now is the pressure rate. And like he just, you know, 42% pressure rate today, three sacks. And I'll give him
48:14credit, like the pressure to sack rate wasn't crazy today, 21%. Like that's manageable. Um, but up until now, like that number's been higher. So part of it
48:22is Malik Willis like in the processing just has to do a better job of not taking the negative plays. But I do
48:27agree with you like step in the right direction. If they're going to run him this much, especially in the design run
48:32game, we know we're going to have games where he has a lot more than one yard rushing and it can open up the rushing
48:36touchdowns. Again, not going to be ranking Malik inside the top 12 or anything crazy like that once week seven comes along, but could he be someone to
48:43maybe help us out in a good matchup streaming here in the future? I do think that looks a little bit more possible
48:48right now. Otherwise, Malik Washington again caught six more passes. Dwayne, he is on pace to catch 78 of them this season. Again, getting a lot more of the
48:55lower AOT stuff that Devon Han left behind. So, he's going to continue to be that wide receiver three, wide receiver four PPR J Wondale Robinson merchant out
49:03there. But the big performance was again Mr. Ollie Gordon 88 yards and a touchdown. Nearly had a second one, unfortunately. Couldn't quite get the
49:10ball across the planes. We'll hear about that in the sheets report tomorrow. But I mentioned it earlier. We're going to talk about Breon Allen, man. 10th in the
49:16NFL in yards after contact this season.
49:18He looks good out there. So, the risk is again the game script. And we saw that happen last week where he looked good
49:24against the Vikings, but he had 10 freaking carries or whatever it was because they just couldn't hold on to the football. But I did like what you
49:30said earlier. you know, we can't always get usage and we we can't always get uh you know, all the variables that we
49:35want. At least Olly Gordon looks good at football and the Dolphins, at least based on what we saw today with Jaylen
49:40Wright active, seemed like they were more than happy to give him the ruck.
49:43>> Yeah. And while the Dolphins, you know, offensive line has struggled to pass block, they've been pretty good as a run
49:50blocking unit. So, I think there are some positives that you have there. Uh 14.8 PPR points today for Olli Gordon and he had 18 carries for 88 yards. So
49:5918 much more livable. Didn't have a target today, but like he's going to have his games where he's going to have
50:03two or three targets. So I mean if this is a guy that can be in the 18 to 22 opportunity range, it'll go a really
50:09long way. The question is can we get there because they run this very slow offense like uh you know the average
50:14time remaining on the remaining on the play clock you one of the worst teams if you look at their place per minute. Like
50:19basically anything we can do to try to measure pace guys uh is not good you know for the Dolphins. They got there
50:24today like I said with the 63 plays but they haven't been there. So, I think a lot of it comes back to your point like
50:30Olly Gordon has looked good enough that I think we can say he's locked down the running back one role, but we're not
50:35really worried about Jaylen Wright taking it over. In fact, Jaylen Wright split time today with Carlos Washington.
50:40Like, they both had 14% of the snap. So, I do think Ali Gordon like locked in right there as like a low-end running
50:45back, too. You know, I think you're going to get the Quenshan Judkins games, guys. Uh, but I think theoretically, like I like this offensive line better,
50:53at least from a run blocking standpoint.
50:55Uh, but pretty similar to Judkins is what I would say, you know, for Ali Gordon, uh, as far as like the volume,
51:00but he looks better than what we've seen from Judkins so far.
51:04>> 22% of his carries today went for 10 plus yards. So, like he's he's hitting some he's hitting some good runs.
51:10>> He's pretty explosive for a guy who also packs a punch. Again, I mean, there's a he fell day three for more off the-
51:16field reasons. He was one of those guys where after his I think sophomore year, junior year at Oklahoma State was in the
51:21way too early, you know, first round mock drafts going ahead. So, looking good out there, man. Which again is all you can ask. So, no, I don't think when
51:28I'm doing my running back ranks, cuz you know how it is, Joan. There's always that line where you're like, "Oh my god,
51:32you just kind of you're scrolling around. You're like, "All right, hold on." Like, I no longer have a running back I want to definitely put here.
51:38Like, I don't think Ollie's going to be in the circle of trust, if you will, and you know, top 15.
51:42>> He's the name you're going to grab once you get to that spot. You're going to be like, Ollie Gordon goes here. [laughter]
51:47>> Exactly. So, we will take that and have a nice bye-week, Ollie. Rest up. Our fantasy teams are going to need you.
51:53Next up, we had the Patriots take down the Raiders 45 to7 New England covering with ease of three and a half point
51:58faves over cashier at 45 and a half.
52:01Drake May is back and he left to be clear. All right, weeks one through three guys, EPA for dropback 28th among
52:1031 qualified quarterbacks, but these last two weeks he has been number one by a mile. And my god, guys, if you want to
52:17say it's the matchup and the Raiders, even though they were a good defense on paper, it was more matchup based like
52:22the Bears, and I think there's truth to that. Don't get me wrong, the eye test was just incredible out there. Again, I
52:27cannot It was to me like very probably better than Bryce. It was one of the best games I think I've seen a
52:32quarterback play this season. Just dots all over the field. Seems like he's working within himself again as a rusher. And we got a ton of fantasy
52:39points accordingly Dwayne. So, I was scared. you, you know, stayed a little bit more level-headed, which you're prone to do, which is a big reason why I
52:46appreciate you. And I think we are a good match, my friend.
52:49>> Sometimes I need to be more scared to be fair, [laughter] you know. So, >> hey, next week against the Jets, though,
52:54the Jets defense hasn't been, you know, a complete car crash like we've seen in past years or anything, but I'm not
52:59afraid of that matchup and I'm not afraid of getting Drake mate right back in the top five where we thought he
53:04would be all season.
53:05>> Yeah. And we could get AJ Brown back in week six coming off a high ankle sprain.
53:11He's been spotted, guys, without a limp for whatever that's worth. He's not practicing, but we could see his 21-day practice window open this week. Probably
53:19more of a week, you know, I don't know if it'll be this week, but there is potential for it. And I think the thing
53:24again with like Drake May that was so impressive last year is he did all of that. I get it guys, it was an easy
53:30schedule, but it's not like he had a lot of great a lot of great players around him. And he did that again today. 39.5
53:37fantasy points, 374 yards passing through four touchdowns, no picks, three scramles for 26 yards, and he got a designed rushing attempt for three yards
53:46for a touchdown. So, I mean, it just doesn't get much better than that. I mean, a 77% completion rate when you're
53:52pushing the ball, average depth of target, 9.8. Like, guys, that's just absolutely freaking ridiculous. So, a lot of those balls that were selling on
53:58him early in the year does seem to your point that he settled down uh on those and instead of those turning into
54:04interceptions, those are now turning into big completions down the field. So, you do love to see it uh with Drake May.
54:10I would say, you know, rest of season, you're looking at Drake May as a mid-range quarterback one again. Uh and he gets AJ Brown back, we might have him
54:18in the top three. Ian found Hunter Henry for a touchdown. Hit Eli Rarin down the sideline for real nice gain. He had 57
54:25yards. about Pop Douglas for not one but two scorers out there. Also, we'll give some credit to Josh McDaniels. He had
54:30this defense off balance all game long.
54:32And we even got not one but two deep downfield catchers from Kyle Williams.
54:36He finished with 91 yards and a touchdown. Surely I'm done talking about the pass catchers, right? Oh no, they had their $68 million receiver Romeo
54:43Dobs who didn't do a damn thing Dwayne when we all finally worked up the courage to actually put him in a
54:48starting lineup. So one catch on three targets for 16 yards. He was close on the miss targets. I think he got one or
54:55two defensive pass interferences out there, but man, 118 unrealized area yards. The opportunity was downfield.
55:02Next week they're facing the Jets.
55:04There's going to be some by-weeks, man.
55:05Like, he might be in the top 36, but he's certainly not going to be in the circle of trusted guys. I'll tell you
55:10that.
55:11>> Yeah. I mean, it's just uh he's in a really volatile role. Like the N he had the route share today 95%. Like that's
55:17his best of the season, but only three targets just working so far downfield.
55:21Like that that's the you have. Yeah. So, you're just you're it's a boom bust kind of scenario. Now, with a play with a guy
55:28like Drake May that you know can get him the ball down the field like there's going to be booms to come, but it's just
55:32I think it's going to just be really difficult to predict when they're going to come and we're eventually going to get AJ Brown back who we know is going
55:39to hog up more of these targets. All the rest of these guys, I'll just say like none of them played in a full-time role
55:43guys. They were all rotating. They all scored fantasy points but not in roles that we can feel super great about it.
55:50And this was all with M. Hollands out.
55:52So, I mean, it's it's tough to like get too excited about any of it. Like, we love Pop Douglas, man. We've talked
55:57about him for years. Like, he's a fun he's a fun slot wide receiver. He gave you 22 and a half PPR points today. He
56:02had a red zone target, two endzone targets. He had a 16.2 average depth of target out there. Uh 64% of the time
56:09from the slot, but only 55% route share, right? I mean, you had uh Kyle Williams out there doing his thing. 18.1 PPR
56:16points, only played 37% of the pass plays. Eftton Chisum actually led he was second on the team. Eftton Chisum, you know, the guy that's inactive sometimes
56:24when everybody's healthy. So, go figure.
56:26It's just so It's so hard to understand like what Josh McDaniel's going to do as far as how he's going to rotate these
56:31guys.
56:32>> Kyle Williams this year, man. 2.37 yards per out run. Now, it's one of those things too, man. Like, living in
56:37Columbus, Ohio, I see Buckeye fans freaking out constantly. We got this kid named Legend Bay who looks electric out there, but Ryan Day doesn't use him.
56:44>> Amazing football name.
56:46>> Yeah, right. Full of them. But me, I usually default to like, all right, these coaches have millions and millions of reasons to want to do everything in
56:55their power to win football games. If they think this guy can help them win, they will be out there on the field. I
57:00don't know though, like we're going to talk about Jaylen Warren here in a little bit and that's someone where, yeah, we've all been dying to see him
57:06get out there and what happens when he gets out there and he absolutely crushes it. So, I don't know what it is with
57:10Kyle Williams. I know that we can't start him particularly if AJ Brown's come back even if he's not coming back, right? He's just not playing enough for
57:16it to happen. But man, get this dude in Dynasty. Kyle Williams can play football.
57:21>> Yeah. I mean, look, yeah, look good.
57:22Like on his opportunities, he seems to shine through every time.
57:26>> Meanwhile, unfortunately, Trayvon Henderson dealing with a bit of an ankle injury, guys. We'll see again what it's going to be in terms of just how severe.
57:34I think some early words, though, is that is the same ankle that kept him out in week one. So, certainly something,
57:39Dwayne, that could impact him here in week six. And if that's going to be the case, Raandre Stevenson, who went out
57:44there today, racked up 85 yards and a touchdown, looked good doing it. Six missed tackles for us. That was actually the fourth highest mark on the week.
57:51Man, against the Jets with the Patriots offense that we now can easily fathom putting up 40 points, which they just did today.
57:58>> Top 12, top 10. Yeah. Get him in your line.
58:00>> Yeah. I mean, 17 and a half PPR points today on a 67% snap share. You know, he's probably going to be at 70 to 80%
58:07if Trevion doesn't play. And historically, we've seen that Stephvenson can be a viable option. You know, in the pass game, we saw that
58:14again today. He had three targets, played 100% of the two-minute offense.
58:17So, um, you know, you talked about the touchdown, 4.9 yards per carry, 3.5 yards after contact, and that was dealing with an injury of his own. They
58:25didn't get off the injury report until Friday. So, 15% of his carries went for 10 plus yards today. So, Stevenson looked really good. So yeah, I just
58:32think anytime we have either one of these Patriot backs where they have the backfield to themselves like they're going to be in the running back one
58:39conversation >> 100% and a good point too. We have seen again Trayon be banned up before or be doghouse before and it has been the
58:45Mandre show. So feeling good about the usage, feeling good about the player, feeling good about the offense, guess what that usually means you're going to
58:50be a top 10 player. Shouting the Patriots for actually helping us feel good about them again. Meanwhile, for the Raiders, a little bit of a step back
58:58to uh reality here, Dwayne again, just Kurt Cousins couldn't quite get going other than throwing the football to Brock Bowers. But for a game where how
59:05many Patriots cornerbacks, especially Christian Gonzalez, uh missed her first team allpro to have all those guys out and still have so much trouble moving
59:12the football, man, it was disappointing to see. So, offensive line didn't do him any favors. Took three sacks out there and also saw Ashton Genty get absolutely
59:20stuffed because they again can't really run block this year and he's playing hurt. It just the offensive line with the Raiders in the run game in
59:26particular kind of reminds me of the Cowboys where it was like, "All right, they were so bad last year. Surely they
59:31must just be better, right?" And then you kind of look up and we're about to go into week six and it's like, "No, not
59:36really." So Texans O line, Browns O line, I'm not trying to pick on the Raiders here, but a little bit disappointing, man. I really thought
59:43after week one in particular, I was like, "All right, we're condensing the offense. Clint Kubak's doing his thing."
59:48I really thought we could get Ashen Genty and once healthy Brock Bowers going out there, but more and more time goes by, man, it just it's Brock Bowers
59:56and everyone else here.
59:57>> Yeah, I mean, and Ashen Genty, to your point, dealing with the injuries, the foot and the ankle injuries coming into
60:02this game. So, I mean, we have to take that into context, but 2.7 yards per carry today. Uh 2.0 yards after contact.
60:10>> I mean, we're getting a pretty lengthy sample of Ashton Genty looking like a guy that can get a workload in but not
60:15score a lot of fantasy points. like he's just, you know, he's not an explosive player to this point in his career.
60:21Really good in the receiving game can give you can give you the receptions and all those sort of things. You know, his
60:25his his end utilization line actually looked a lot worse than what it was. Uh so if you look at all of the plays
60:32before the final drive whenever he did not play, you saw Brock Bower, some other guys not play as much on that
60:36final drive as well. I mean, he still had 64% of the snaps, 63% of the attempts, you know, 50% of the snaps
60:42inside the five, 55% routes, but it's not at that 75% rate we were seeing earlier in the year. And this is two
60:49weeks in a row where we've seen this.
60:50And maybe that's due to the injury.
60:51Maybe that's due to it. But like there's just part of me, and we've been talking about it for a few weeks where I'm just
60:56like, you know, at this point, Gent is going to have to approve that he's actually an elite running back. All I
61:01can say about him right now is like when healthy, he's in a he gets a good workload, but I don't it's, you know, he
61:08does not look like someone that could be a top three running back in fantasy, which is what you're hoping when you get
61:13for when you get this sort of workload.
61:15At this point, I feel like he's more like the guy where it's like, okay, we talked about the two boxes you check,
61:19we're like, great workload, but not a great player. I I just think we have to call it that at this point. Could he
61:24change our minds in the future? Yes. But I mean, I don't see how we can ignore what we've seen for, you know, a year
61:31and four in five games now.
61:33>> And I think he's banged up, but how are we supposed to know when he's not going to be as banged up? That's the other
61:38part of the issue going on here. So would love to see him prove it wrong. I guess it was it has been good news that
61:44Mike Washington hasn't been a bigger thorn on his side. But the other unfortunate part of that thing, Dwayne, is I feel way worse about Mike
61:50Washington's highend handcuff upside now because Dylan lobby, man, Clint Kubak said after the game that it was more of a falling behind, needing to pass the
61:58ball more thing. That was why he prioritized lobbying.
62:01>> But man, I just we we've seen Bron Allen completely make Isaiah Davis sit on the bench. Like that doesn't always happen.
62:09And given the fact that Mike has busted a couple really cool runs this year, I get it. but he's going to have to play
62:15behind that same offensive line if Genty has to miss any time. And it certainly seems like a situation where he could be
62:20game scripted off the field during any given week. Will we still probably want to start Washington? Yeah, we're still going to be starting Ashen Genty, too.
62:26But it wasn't exactly a feather in the cap of Mike Washington's day.
62:31>> Yeah, absolutely. I mean, so I think what we know about Mike Washington right now is when things are going right, he
62:35is the handcuff to Ashen Genty. But when things are going wrong and the Raiders are now 3-2, uh, and we're another step
62:42closer to potentially seeing Fernando Mendoza. I mean, we saw Fernando Mendoza for the end of the game today. Now, Cousins didn't play bad. Like, you know,
62:48he had 243 passing yards, one touchdown, no picks, average 8.7 yards per attempt.
62:53You know, found a way to just lock on to Brock Bowers. Uh, I do want to say though, man, hat to to the Patriots, you
62:59know, defensive coaching staff with all the injuries they were dealing with to come out. I I thought this would be a
63:04much closer game. I I honestly thought like the Raiders had a good chance to win this >> and the Patriots at home just completely
63:10took care of business in this game. But to your point on lobby, that's his profile. He was a good receiving back
63:15coming out of college. That's why the Raiders added him to their roster. And so today, that game strip played out.
63:22And so I think you're correct. Like if we get into a game, even if Genty's out and Mike Washington's the guy, if they
63:28fall down by two touchdowns, you're probably gonna see a lot more of Dylan Lobby than what you would hope.
63:33>> Do you think it's just like Ray Davis, Ty Johnson, but we're dealing with the Raiders instead of the freaking Bills?
63:37>> Agree. Yes. Perfect.
63:39>> Yep. That's exactly what >> Let's end things on a good note, and that was Mr. Brock Bowers, guys. He is
63:45averaging 23.7 PPR points per game this year. The NFL tight end record is 20.9 set by Travis Kelce back in 2020. So
63:54very much generational. I disrespected him joy. I ranked him tight end two this week because Trey McBride was going up against the Lions. Never again for as
64:01long as I am alive or at least like for this season, you know, Brock Bowers >> and running receiver routes out wide and
64:07just now again like you had the Patriots main corner. It wasn't against Christian Gonzalez, you know, >> still good though.
64:14>> It's still Yeah. Just being able to line up out there and do that is just amazing. But yeah, 73% route share.
64:20Would have been higher. Didn't play much in the last drive. Probably like closer to 80 85%. 28% target share. 10 targets
64:26today. Uh yeah, look, he's Brock Bowers.
64:29He's the tight end one. He's Superman.
64:31>> I will note Trey Tucker four of five targets for 41 yards. Did have a better ball touchdown potentially from 30 yards
64:37out early, but Kirk Cousin was also also under a lot of pressure. So that's kind of thing with the Dante Van Wix one as
64:42well, Dwayne. like when it's a double move, zero blitz, quarterback's throwing off his back foot. I I get it. They're being paid many millions of dollars to
64:51hit that throw, but you know, it's tough.
64:53>> It is tough.
64:55>> All right, let's move on. The Vikings took down the Saints 23-13. Minnesota winning and covering a two and a half
65:00point faves the undercash here at 41 a half. Look, the Vikings, particularly the last six quarters, I think Kyler Murray's taking a big step forward, but
65:09the numbers are still numbers. And based on some backbreaking fumbles today, guys, the Vikings are 5-0 with the 32nd ranked offense in EPA per play and the
65:19number one ranked defense in EPA per play. Defense getting the job done, but again, a lot of that is due to some
65:26earlier season performance and Kyler Murray again unfortunately having to deal with Miles Price losing a fumble that got taken back all the way for a
65:33touchdown. Then Aaron Jones losing a fumble as well inside the 20 yardd line.
65:36But this was good though, Dwayne. I actually saw Kyler Murray get the ball Justin Jefferson between like three defenders in the back of the end zone
65:44and run around a little bit again. Man, 51 rushing yards. He had 20.82 miles per hour on like his 18yd scramble. That was
65:51the fastest mark so far of all of week five and definitely the fastest of any quarterback this season. So we got a buy
65:58here in week six. So we're not going to be seeing Kyle Kyler and company until week seven. But, you know, I've been
66:04keeping them around the QB2 range. We got the Indianapolis Colts, then the Lions, then the Bills in weeks 7 through N. I think we might be back to Kyler QB1
66:13season, baby.
66:14>> Yeah, I think we I think we are. Uh, at least a high-end QB2, right? Um, and this game shouldn't have been this
66:20close. Like, this game like the the the Vikings should have just >> absolutely blown the Saints completely out of their building. I mean, they
66:26still won 23-13, but like this this could have this could have been like a 35-3 kind of game. Like that's the way
66:32it felt every time that I was watching this game. But for Kyler, to your point, like best game of the season, 229 yards,
66:397.6 yards per attempt, threw a touchdown to you talked about it to Justin Jefferson back of the end zone. No picks
66:45today. Um not really pushing the ball down the field. Uh average depth of target today was a six, you know, but I
66:50think also that when you get into a game like this and you think you're going to win it, it's like why do we really need
66:54to take these risks? But you talked about it, the 51 rushing yards. He actually had seven scrambles for 54 yards, but because they were kneeling at
67:01the end of the game, took that took away three yards from Kyler. So, 32% pressure rate today, but only sacked twice. So, a
67:0817% pressure to sack uh you know, percentage there. So, that was also a positive to see because that's something that uh Kyler struggled with a little
67:16bit within the confines of this offense early in the season. So, maybe he's starting to get a little bit more feel
67:21for Kevin O'Connell scheme. Again, great to see because he took those sacks, I think, in the first half and then he
67:27started running away and actually making some plays. Chase Young and company could not get that dude to the ground.
67:31So, did lose a security blanket TJ Hawinson, too, after his first catch of the game, which led to Gavin Bartholomew catching five passes and actually should
67:40have had a pretty much walking 37yd touchdown. That was Kyler's worst throw of the day, but again, he made a very
67:45good one shortly after the Jedi. So, we will forgive him for that. Otherwise, man, Aaron Jones 113 yards and a touchdown. Good to finally see him give
67:52us, you know, not 30 plus points, not Bucky Irving against the Cowboys here, but a very good performance that is probably going to have him in the top 12
67:59by the end of this week. However, we should have Jordan Mason back in week seven, Dwayne. So, you know, with Kylo
68:05Murray running around, probably not checking the ball down. The Vikings and KC historically haven't used their running backs a ton the pass game
68:11anyway. Jones and Mason probably just more so mid, you know, mid to upside RB3s more weeks than not. Yeah, I think
68:17Jones like has done well enough that like, you know, I'll have him ranked ahead of Mason when Mason comes back, you know, and I Jones would be the one I
68:25would be more likely to have like as a high-end running back three or if a lot of teams run by as the low-end running
68:30back two. But, you know, we'll see what happens with Mason and we'll have to reassess because they could easily just decide, nope, he's our early down guy
68:37and we're putting Aaron Jones back into the change of pace passing down role.
68:40We'll see what happens.
68:42>> So, great stuff for the Vikings, man.
68:43Again, we've seen Brian Flores's defense maybe fade a little bit later in the year when teams start getting a better grasp of his blitzes and stuff, but the
68:49offense again is already starting to move up. It would make sense with more time under center for Kyler and company.
68:54They continue to mesh well and they're sitting here at 5 and0 as all those things happen. So, enjoy the buy.
68:59Meanwhile, for the Saints, again, just a horrible game all around, Dwayne. But, let's face it, that's really been the case for more teams than not when they
69:05face the Minnesota Vikings. So thrown together with that blowout in prime time against the Falcons certainly not ideal, but I'm more so inclined just to throw
69:15this one out.
69:16>> Yeah. I mean, look, when you play the Vikings, like I think our lesson is like, man, like you really have to
69:21consider any sort of fringe starter, >> man, >> that we're normally looking at. You're probably just downgrading not to not using. You're going to start your studs
69:29because you should, and you probably don't have better options to use. But man, the big thing that I've noticed with this defense, and it happened again
69:35today, is these teams try to go heavy.
69:38So the Saints, they were down, guys, and they were using their heavy personnel.
69:42The Saints are normally an 11 personnel team. They only used it 47% of the time today. They used their 12 package with
69:47two tight ends 42% of the time. They ran 13 personnel 12% of the time. And make no mistake about it, that's to try to
69:54handle Brian Flores's defense. The other thing that happens to these guys is you don't see the running backs getting the routes, Ian. They have to stay out
70:02there. They have to stay in to block.
70:04So, we had 0% route share for uh Kray Miller even though he played 30% of the snaps. Uh Donaldson had 42% of the
70:13snaps, only 23% of the routes cuz he had to stay in the block. And even Chimera, man, uh he had an 8% route share on a
70:2028% snap share. All three of these guys were having to stay in to help protect the quarterback. And and the Saints,
70:25like they tried to adapt their game plan. They also tried to go to this quick kind of passing game. They just
70:30never could get it to work out. Like they brought down the average depth of target, tried to get to the quick
70:34hitters and it it just, you know, the Vikings, they saw it coming, you know, and they were just ready to rally around
70:40the ball. So, a 8.6 PPR points, guys.
70:43You're not to your point, throw it away.
70:45You're not going to read too much into it. Still a full-time role. Same thing for Vale. I had Vailey like down as like
70:50wide receiver 50 this week cuz he was one of those fringe guys that I'm like, you know, normally I like him maybe as a
70:54wide receiver three but definitely as a wide receiver four, but this week like I'm just going to be out on it. And I
70:59think that's the way you're going to have to treat these guys that are in the Veillay range uh when they're playing
71:03against the Vikings.
71:04>> Vale has just been I mean I think he was like the wide receiver 17 going into this week somehow. They've been kind of
71:10>> volume like Yeah. Like >> 43 play Arizona Cardinals way, you know?
71:15They've just been kind of coming back.
71:16It's been ugly. I hear you.
71:17>> Yeah. 43 plays today by far the low for the Saints. The Saints even after this game are probably still leading the
71:22league in plays per game, right? They run a fast pace. You're going to get back to having the games where even
71:27though you got a guy with a 16% target share, it's the same as someone with a 20% target share in an offense that
71:32doesn't run as many plays and the Saints are going to continue to try to run plays. Just didn't happen today.
71:38>> We'll be back to feeling better about Vle and Jawan here next week. Nessa Giants and I'm with you. This is
71:42literally the first time I think he's had a bus game in like his last seven or eight or something like that. So
71:47unfortunate it had to happen at all, but he is allegedly a human mortal like the rest of us. The Alvin Chimera stuff does
71:54suck though because again he had the two touchdowns, 20 plus fantasy points last week. Kendrick Miller did look a lot better rushing though and after he kind
72:02of capped off that one drive with their only touchdown of the game. Man, I maybe it was just the blitzing that took Camra
72:07off the field. They have been using Donaldson more so for the pass pro stuff anyway. But just >> not that Chimera was someone I was like
72:14excited to start, man. I think I I put him next like the Hampton and Tony Pard which tells you all you need to know
72:18about it. But, you know, I did flex him in a couple leagues and it's going to be tough to feel good about that even in
72:23easier matchups as long as they continue to rotate all three guys like this.
72:26>> Yeah. And he was coming off, you know, he was battling an injury throughout the week, older players. So, there was
72:31definitely some risk with him. But, yeah, man, 18% of the carries, only three totes today. You had Miller at 59% of the attempts. And we did talk about
72:39that a little bit last week. We're like, you know, we're not for sure how the base down work will go, but they at
72:43least shared it last week before Chimera got hurt and we didn't see that is the case today. The other thing I think that
72:49can just happen here is it really is the hot hand thing because you have three guys who don't really love any of them.
72:54Honestly, this is like the perfect hot hand spot. It's like whichever one's looking good early in the game, you just kind of ride them. And that might have
73:00been what happened here.
73:01>> To his credit, that guy was Kendra. Now again, he's not going to be exactly skyrocketing up the ranks either, but
73:06for at least one day, good job by you, Kendra. Moving along, we had the Steelers take down the Colts 34 to22.
73:12Pittsburgh continuing to look pretty good, guys. They won outright as three and a half point faves over cashier 41 a half. So Aaron Rogers 235, not one, not
73:20two, three touchdowns through the air.
73:22Got some help from his friends. All right, some good play design on one of the Pat Fry touchdowns and then Jaylen
73:26Warren going 80 yards to the house on a pass that had like one or two air yards.
73:30You know, not going to be in Rogers, you know, career highlight reel, I would say. But hey, it's the first time since
73:35the end of 2021 that he's thrown for three plus passing touchdowns in three straight games. And if he does it for
73:40another week, I'm going to have to go even back past further than that. So, I mean, next week, man, they're in Tampa
73:45Bay. And it's just nice to be able to feel good about this offense, especially after a very troubling first two weeks.
73:50But, of course, the workhorse, the engine of this offense, Jaylen Warren, 101 yards and a touchdown, 87 yards and a touchdown. He's up in the RB9 on the
74:00season now averaging 18.6 six PPR points per game. I've seen people be like, "Oh my god, they cannot put Rico D back on
74:07the field here. They can't freaking do this." Like, make him sit in the locker room. Look, I would be shocked, Dwayne,
74:12if we're sitting here next week going 55 to 45% snaps. I will be outraged if that happens. I just think Jaylen Warren is
74:19probably going to be more of a 75 80% snap guy and Rico is just going to take a handful of other touches. If I'm
74:26wrong, I'll be pissed. But like, how do you feel with this right now, >> man? I think it's really tough because
74:31McCarthy has told us that when they're when Dow is back and he's healthy, it's going to be a split between them. A
74:37one-two punch. Now, a one-two punch could mean Jaylen Warren is the one, right? And Dow's the two. And maybe it is more along the ranges of what you're
74:45talking about. But for whatever reason, coaches have done this to Jaylen Warren forever. To to your point, like us fantasy nerds who don't know anything,
74:52you know, we should just, you know, go back and live in our mom's basement because we don't know what we're talking
74:56about. To be fair, like we've been screaming for Jaylen Warren in a full-time role for forever, like because he's and it's easy for us, right?
75:03Because we know that he's a guy that c can catch the passes and and he's explosive on the ground. And you saw
75:08both of those things on display today.
75:1036.8 PPR points, 85% of the snaps, 79% of the rushing attempts with 15 carries, 100% of the work inside the 5 yard line,
75:1882% route share. Guys, these these are like Christian McCaffrey numbers that he's getting in this full-time role. So, I'm hopeful like you that it is
75:27something where it's like 65 75% of the snaps to Warren. I'm definitely leaning towards Warren, but I man I just know
75:33how these coaches do this stuff and I don't think we'll know until we get there, you know, and we'll probably I
75:38don't want to say probably, but there's a decent chance we're disappointed that we're like, "Oh, back to 55% of the snaps again for Jaylen Warren. What are
75:44we doing here?" Believe me, the defense is fine with that. Like, this is why like I mean we've talked about Jaylen
75:50Warren for so long, so we'll see what happens with him. Uh, but I I'll just, man, I don't know. I I hope Ian, I'm
75:57with you. I hope that Jaylen Warren stays in this role. I've been wanting it forever and it's a great thing to see
76:02it.
76:02>> I just think coaches and you know, shout coach speaking to some people that try to quantify this stuff. But when you're
76:07asking Mike McCarthy about Rico D. I don't think he's going to be like, hey, you know, I'll I'll hand Rico a cushion
76:13because he's going to have to get real comfortable sitting on that bench. You know, he better be ready to hand Jaylen
76:17his water bottle. So, I again was very specific, right? He said, "We have two guys that we like both of them. We see
76:23them being able to play all the different roles we want them." And we even saw that in week one. Rico Dowel
76:28like was the passing down back. Like it was like, you know, we had some bizarro stuff going on. So I think some of the
76:35things that McCarthy has said like worry me a little bit more, right, than just your to your point, I agree with that.
76:40like they're not just going to come out and say like that they're when they get specifically asked about their running back too. They're not going to dog them
76:47right in front of the media. But there have been some pretty specific things he said.
76:51>> Fair enough. The good news is unlike weeks one and two, this offense is actually showing some scoring upside. So 15, you know, to 16 touches while it
76:58would be 20, we should feel better.
77:00>> Yeah. Like they've had the games where the game plan has been to attack downfield. Today obviously the weather was an impact and they adjusted to that.
77:08didn't go with like the heavy play action downfield stuff. Instead, they ran the screen game. 26% of their dropbacks were screen plays today. So,
77:15it was more of a dink and dunk game for Aaron Rogers. But when you think about the elements that they were dealing
77:20with, think about the matchup that you have, you know, with Gardner playing against DK Mechaf. Metaf said he didn't know who he was. Well, apparently he
77:27does now because they only had four targets on the day.
77:29>> Ameg Gardner has been mediocre for two years. I'm tired of >> That's fine. That's fine. That's fine.
77:34But DK Metaf didn't do his part either today. So I I think it's a situation where coaches still respect that with
77:41Sauce Gardner. And I I think the plus that I'm trying to take away is like the Steelers like Mike McCarthy's done a
77:47pretty good job of figuring out what the best game plan is going to be uh to give his team a chance.
77:53>> Big part out today was featuring rookie wide receiver Jeremy Bernard. Caught six of nine targets. Now he had some help.
77:58Michael Pitman was out of the picture, but he's going to be out of the picture on the injured reserve. And Roman Wilson
78:03also hurt his finger. uh might be pulling some landscaping duty after that one, but yeah, he was out of the picture
78:08as well for a bulk of this one. But it was interesting, man, cuz Jerry Bernard is someone who had a lot of fans coming
78:13out. Bama built their entire offense around the guy last year. So, good prospect. And there was a fun note from Nick Farah um this week and one of the
78:20Steelers beat reporters who basically said Rogers gave Bernard like this extensive quiz on like what to do versus coverage and that and apparently the
78:27quarterbacks were like bragging about how much Jeremy knew everything out there. So, look, he's been a guy to like and particularly now without Michael
78:36Pitman, maybe without Roman Wilson as well. I mean, we're seeing talent meet opportunity Dwayne in an offense that's doing good things. He is their guy where
78:44they want to give him the ball in the screen game and after the catch. We'll see what happens with Roman, but even
78:49then, Roman's more so been a downfield guy anyway. Man, this felt pretty real to me.
78:52>> Yeah, it was real. Uh, and of course it happens. is like I think I had Jeremy Bernard like two weeks ago on like 45%
78:59of my rosters but I had to make moves for starters and things and I'm like all right we still have Pitman Wilson's
79:04playing the slot so it's like Bernard splitting the slot work so of course you know after you cut him immediately we
79:10get Pitman going on IR because he's riding around the locker room on a on a scooter that is fantasy football but to
79:15your point it was real because today before the Roman Wilson injury so there were there were four drives before Wilson got hurt 92% route share on those
79:25drives for Jeremy Bernard. And when you think about the role that he's playing, he's really taking Michael Pitman's role. But he's a more explosive player
79:32right now at this point in his career than where Pitman is. So I think there's a chance that even once Pitman is back,
79:37if Bernard plays well over this stint, Ian, we could easily see them decide that he's just the better fit because he
79:44can work underneath. He can add yards after the catch. Pitman is really more of a possession guy and him and Rogers
79:49haven't got connected. Maybe part of that's due to the foot injury that, you know, Pitman has been dealing with to be
79:53fair to him. Uh, but Metaf is a guy they want to work more down the field this year. Roman Wilson's a vertical slot
79:59once he's healthy and back. So, I kind of feel like Jeremy Bernard really fits like the other role that makes the most
80:05sense for this offense. 14.4 PPR points today, 94% route participation rate to end the day, 30% target share with nine looks, one red zone look, and we talked
80:16about that lower average depth of target, 5.9. So working underneath the defense, six receptions for 80 yards.
80:21Also had one rush for four yards as well.
80:25>> Was trying to find the Steelers like passing play percentage near the goal line because that would just be another thing that helps because we did see the
80:31Pat Footh touchdown five wide from the one yard line like Aaron Rogers has not lost his willing and hey it worked so I
80:38shouldn't be hating but I just I don't know man because moving on from even Jeremy to these tight ends like Fry is
80:43now the tight end nine. I know he doesn't have the total routes we look for. They keep Darnell Washington involved for good reason. He's a great
80:50football player, very, very large human being. Had like three awesome blocks in that long Jaylen Warren touchdown run.
80:56Are you buying Pat Fri potentially being like this top 10 tight end? Because again, he is a talented pass catcher and
81:02rather inexplicably like this is a Steelers offense where I don't think they're the Bills, but they're closer to the Bills than the Titans when it comes
81:10to like 65% routes probably being fine.
81:13I mean, I think it's just going to be tough to nail the weeks and and the problem with So, today Frymouth was
81:17great. He had an 82% route share, 19 PPR points, but like every other week, it's like his routes like dropped to 60%. And
81:25so, there's these games where they want to get Darnell Washington more involved.
81:28And so, and again, like they've shown us that they're willing to change their game plan every single week. So, >> okay,
81:34>> I think that's the challenge. If Fmouth were to play 80% of the routes every week, then yeah, because Metaf just is
81:40not getting the targets even though they've changed his role. even though he's technically more of the downfield guy, he's getting more of the inbreaking
81:46stuff underneath intermediate as well.
81:48So, he's not just a vertical boundary player, but it just hasn't worked out yet. You know, I know Rogers say it says
81:53that he's going to continue to feed him.
81:55Uh, but like a couple of things they did for Fryouth today were designed to get them to Frier, including that touchdown.
82:01He had two red zone targets, one in zone target today. So, I wouldn't rule it out that the big challenge is like the way
82:08that they change the roles every every week in the tight end room. That's that's the concerning part. So if if he's available, which he is in quite a
82:15few leagues, I wouldn't go crazy on Fri Muth, but I wouldn't say it's out of the range of outcomes for him to be a
82:21low-end tight and one the rest of the way.
82:23>> And I I hear I want 80% routes every week, too. But I'm starting to think like, well, if this is a possibility,
82:29and then the 60% routes, he's still a capable player. He can still do okay things on that. Why are we starting
82:35Coulson Loving over Pat Frymouth, you know?
82:37>> Yeah, I mean, I think it's a fair question at this point. Um, you know, and a lot of people are faced with that.
82:42Yeah, it's a sad one. And people and a lot of people are faced with it. A lot of us drafted Coloulson Lovelin in round
82:48four or five of our fantasy draft, Ian.
82:50And it's not going well.
82:51>> It is going well though for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Congrats them on the win again. Facing that Tampa Bay defense that we've usually seen, maybe
82:58not last Thursday against the Cowboys.
82:59Usually seen be a force that, you know, opposing passing a have success with.
83:03Expecting more of that from Pittsburgh.
83:05Meanwhile, for the Indianapolis Colts, just four for 15 on third down, only converted one of three trips into the red zone in two touchdowns. Just an
83:12offense that again, when you're feeding eight targets to Laquan Trewell, nine targets to Keenan Allen in the year 2026, like that's that's not a good
83:20thing. So Josh D was fourth on this team in targets this week, man, which is just again a very sad reality to be living
83:26in. Good thing though, Tyler Warren got going. Caught seven of nine targets for 83 yards and got like a fullback dive
83:32touchdown after Jonathan Taylor and Daniel Jones couldn't quite get in there. So, good stuff from Warren. They even got him involved a little bit more
83:38downfield. Caught a wheel out there.
83:40Almost had another one. Jaylen Ramsey put a hell of a hit on this dude. But it was just one of those things, man, where
83:45I was looking at Tyler Warren's like >> targets like on True Media, they have a cool like when you go into their player
83:50profile, like they show you like the exact every single target and the amount of targets for this dude like behind the
83:56line of scrimmage. I know he's good with the football in his hands. We'll take the screens, but let this dude run some
84:01real, you know, actual tight end routes and they did that today. So, good to see from Tyler Warren. He I never got him
84:06outside my top 12, but he was getting closer to 12 than six and at least for one Sunday, man. thing. Life was good
84:12again for Tyler Warren drafters.
84:14>> Yeah. 21.4 PPR points. He had the rushing touchdown which really helped today. But seven catches for 83 yards on nine targets. So red zone target, an end
84:21zone target to your point. Uh deeper downfield today.
84:259.9 A DOT >> with 89 yards. Sorry, I got to take a drink here. But yeah, Tyler Warren good at football. But I think the rest of
84:32these guys honestly um >> I don't think there's really much more to add. like Josh Downs like 93% route share but another not a complete dud but
84:40definitely not helping you win your matchup with 7.7 PPR points only a 14% target share was outtargeted again by Keenan Allen
84:49>> just so disappointing man maybe they're probably maybe it is just Alec Pierce being out of the picture and then just defenses being able to put more
84:59coverage on him but I don't know man >> yeah I mean >> he looks so good with some like that Chiefs game I know fantasy points like
85:05the separ ation metrics. They all love Josh Downs. Like I I've accepted and I've said this before like some of the
85:11stuff like, "Oh, use Josh Downs on the outside." He's 5'8", 170 for a reason, right? But man, no one else to go with
85:17the football. These last two duds, seeing it again, man, really have been surprising to me.
85:21>> Yeah, they have. I mean, I think, you know, and and Josh DS, if you look at him in the rest of season projection,
85:26you know, stuff over on Fantasy Life, like we've had him in the wide receiver three territory. Um, and it's just because like once we have Alec Pierce
85:33back, like that is the other question.
85:34So maybe that ultimately ends up helping DS to your point. Like Daniel Jones did he did try to push the ball down the
85:40field today. He had an 11.3 A dot. You know, he hit some big plays, including one to Downs, which is really how he
85:46ended up at 7.7 points. You know, he had like 143 yard catch that was a big part of all that. Um, so maybe maybe Alec
85:53Pierce like loosens things up for other people. But right now, I think, you know, we know DS is in a full-time role,
85:59which is still a plus. We know he's a good player is still a plus. So, it's hard to get too down on him, but it's
86:03also hard to get too overly excited and say there's this massive ceiling. That's kind of where I'm at with him right now.
86:09>> No, I think that's right. He's a wide receiver three who we're hoping could be an upside wide receiver, too. We can't
86:13have nice things. I would be more concerned about Jonathan Taylor averaging easily a career low 3.9 yards per carry, but guess what? He gets to
86:20face the Titans next week. So, get ready for a buck 75 and three touchdowns there. Moving on, we had an NFC East
86:27thriller, a tie 27 to 27 between the Giants and Commanders after Jaden Daniels. Just pretty inexplicably, man.
86:33Went to the ground, didn't get a spike off, and the clock ran out on this uh I don't want to say atrocity game. It
86:39ended up being entertaining. Kudos to the Giants for, you know, staging a nice little comeback there. But yeah, Giants did cover us. Three and a half point
86:45dogs. The overcash at 41 a half. The New York Football Giants. Dwayne ran 84 plays allowing Jamus to do Jameus things. 54 pass attempts in this one. He
86:55more than made the most out of them. 326 yards and three touchdowns through the air. Javus Winston now since 2024 has
87:03three games with at least 300 passing yards and at least three passing touchdowns. Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes only have two a piece Dwayne. So
87:10yes, I am saying that Jameus Winston is better than Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen. In all seriousness though, back-to-back weeks haven't had the
87:18weather issues. The weather wasn't great today. It wasn't an issue for Jameson company. the arm looks more alive. He wants to throw the football to Malik
87:25Neighbors and to Isaiah likely as many times as possible. And arguably even more importantly, he's keeping the Giants competitive and they won the
87:32previous two games. Man, let's keep this out here and see what happens. And so far, that happening is Neighbors and Likely going absolutely nuts. These
87:40dudes are both top eight in the NFL in targets right now. Likely is freaking crushing it and the number two tight end
87:46I think behind Barers. Even Malik Neighbors, man, as much as the shoulder stuff still isn't great, I don't want to see JJ McCarthy out there at any point.
87:52But he looked good out there, too, man.
87:54I I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE GIANTS.
87:56>> YEAH, I mean, the Giants offense right now looking really good. I think the big thing for Jamus today is like throwing
88:01for all those yards. He didn't turn it over, right? And that's the thing we need to like keep, you know, things
88:06intact where we can have these sort of games because, you know, Harbaugh like he'd rather just run the ball if he
88:11could, but the problem is like none of their running backs are any good right now. and their receiver Malik Neighbors and their tight end Isaiah likely are
88:18both really good. And so Malik Neighbors 97% route share this weekend after being at 91% last week. I think we can say we
88:26are officially back with Neighbors 29.1 PPR points today. Last week he gave us 24. So Malik Neighbors very easily locked into our top 12 wide receivers
88:35the rest of the way. Just got to stay healthy. Hope he doesn't reagravate that shoulder injury when it popped out two
88:40weeks ago. Um then Isaiah Likely man like this is a guy I think I had it tied in four this week just looking even
88:45though he hadn't been that good it was just like you know the targets have been there like you know this game has to
88:50come and we saw it again today 85% route share guys absolutely elite 25% target share he had 13 looks on the day we had
88:5820 looks for neighbors so these two guys like three red zone targets for neighbors two endzone targets two red zone for likely one endzone and we had
89:06Isaiah likely get knocked out of the game for a little bit at the end of the game he was a little bit hobbled so
89:10could have had even more points, but 32.4 PPR points today from Isaiah. Likely, I think he's locked in like right now into
89:18the tier with KD, right? We've got McBride and Bowers, a little mini tier break, and we've got KD, and I think
89:24it's likely right now. Um, and I don't particularly think there's anybody else that like we can debate that are really close to those guys.
89:32>> Rest of season, the argument would be what if McCarthy gets out there? They're already trying to do some like >> run game package stuff which is just
89:39dumb.
89:40>> They played three snaps today I think.
89:41Yeah, >> give [snorts] me a break with that. But >> with Jamus out there, man, hell yeah.
89:45It's Isaiah likely. And you know what?
89:47It might just if you want likely over Concaid regardless. Like go ahead. I don't think it's crazy. Just >> Yeah, I just think with the routes and
89:52the targets, you probably just have to go likely anyway over Concaid.
89:56>> Yeah, it's just it's the only reason why I wouldn't be all in on that is the quarterback potential change. But I
90:02don't know.
90:04Isaiah likely looking like an absolute smash. And Malik Neighbors again looking good as well. He even could have had a bigger day, man. There's a 39yd
90:10potential touchdown off his hands.
90:12There's another play where it got barely tipped by Sunny Styles at the last moment. Bounced off his chest play. So great stuff from Neighbors on 20 targets
90:20out there. So I know the Giants again aren't going to run 84 plays, but to Dwayne's point, zero turnovers for Jamus. I do think that horal maybe if he
90:27wasn't full in on the experience to start, you know, two 0 and one with the guy as your full-time starting quarterback. Good stuff there. You did
90:34mention the run game though. Cam Scataboo did lose a fumble later in the game and he continues to be very very
90:39unexplosive on the ground. So Jamus is also someone who, you know, he did find Scataboo for like a 30-yard downfield pass a week or two ago, but those are
90:47obviously going to be few and far between for the running back. So even if Scataboo is getting the routes that we
90:52want, I think we can agree Jameus is less likely to check it down. So probably downgrade, man. I mean, it's good to see the Giants are able to score
91:0027 points and stuff and Scat, you'd like to think, can punches some touchdowns, but every time I look up near the goal
91:05line, it seems like they're going with Naji instead.
91:07>> Yeah, I mean, 57% of the design rushing attempts to Scatteraboo, but to your point, like they just they're working in
91:12the other guys. Naji Harris had 22% of the carries today. Uh, the snaps were great for Scataboo, 63%, but they did
91:19also spell him in the passing game. He had a 48% route share last year. We saw him around 65%. And so to your point
91:26with Jamus also wanting to push the ball down the field and Scataboo continuing to not look that explosive. He had a
91:30couple of nice runs at the end of the at the end of the game Ian to get that rushing yards per attempt up to four and
91:35a half today. But that was also some really good blocking with some really nice runways and Scott is going to run
91:40hard. He's going to run into the defender. Nobody wants to tackle him once he gets moving. And those things were all true on this play as well. But
91:46you mentioned it. The big thing here is not really an explosive player and then we're not getting as much of the passing
91:52down work. He did have 77% of the two-minute offense today. So, that was really good. That's something we saw go to Tyrone Tracy last week. So, it does
91:59feel like it kind of comes down to a little bit of like who's on the field for what drive. But, they're definitely
92:04trying to spell him a little bit with Naji Harris and Tyrone Tracy. So, we'll end up see we'll see what's happening.
92:09Like Tyrone Tracy is a name that's floating around as a trade uh potential player, but at the same time, we saw
92:13Deon Singleary to start the year play more on passing down. So like he could get right back into a role where he's
92:19doing some of the Tyrone Tracy stuff even if they were to move Tracy.
92:23>> The first place in the NFC least Giants.
92:26They will get the New Orleans Saints next week. That's certainly a run defense that's been had before. So maybe Scaboo can't put put together a big day
92:32there. Someone who also put together a big day or I should say someone who did put together a big day on the ground,
92:37Mr. Jaden Daniels. Dwayne, you are a very I mean, look, everyone knows you're a nice person, but again, not many alleged fantasy experts would literally
92:44start our show by talking about one of the I know for a fact few things that you happen to get wrong. And honestly,
92:49man, anyone that in hindsight can look at you with a straight face and say, "Oh, I knew Jaden Daniels was going to
92:54be running a lot in this game." You, sir, or ma'am, are a liar, respectfully.
92:58So, either way though, man, Jaden Daniels went out there, he scrambled on the first play of the game, like from start to finish, he was just willing to
93:05play football like he always does. And guess what? But when he's out there and healthy enough to continue doing so, usually very good things happen. 103
93:12rushing yards, two touchdowns on the ground, chipped in 199 passing yards. He leads the NFL among quarterbacks in rushing yards this season still. So I
93:20know Lamar got banged up and stuff, but that's just crazy to me for a guy that has played two and a half games
93:25basically at this point. But man, Dwayne, I can't guarantee Jaden Daniels playing like this. Someone who we've seen even going back to his days in
93:32college, has a struggle with, you know, taking care of his body. I don't know how as long it's going to last. If we
93:38had to predict quarterbacks and like what their likelihood of getting through 60 Minutes of football is, I would certainly put Jaden Daniels lower. But,
93:44you know, I had them like you. I did have them in my top 12 this week. I think I started off like when I wrote my
93:50rank when I did my Monday ranks, I had him at 12 and I just kept moving him down to like 15, maybe even 16 by the
93:56end of it. I'll get him in the top 12 ahead of next Monday Night Football. It could go bad, but man, he can do this.
94:02>> Yeah. I mean, look, and he wasn't part of the design run game, which was a big part of my concern today. I just didn't
94:07think that the Giants would come out and run that much man coverage against Jaden Daniels and let him have those free
94:13looks at whenever he wanted to scramble when he can protect his body and we know when he finds an open lane, he's one of
94:18the most explosive rushing quarterbacks in the league. And that's and that's to your point there. Like whenever you have a guy that's like that, you just kind of
94:25have to start him. 32.3 fantasy points today. Uh he was sacked five times, man, under pressure 41%. So, I mean, those
94:32are things to keep in mind when you think about, you know, what's going on with the elbow and trying to catch
94:36himself as he's falling. I did see an offensive line help him up from a weird angle by the left arm with the brace.
94:42So, I was like, "Okay, it must not be hurting that bad to see that." Uh, but 33% right, of his pressures turned into
94:49sacks. So, I I mean, the offensive line definitely has its challenges, but man, the scrambles overcame it. Seven scrambles today for 130 yards. 14.7
94:58yards per scramble. Obviously, two of those two of those turned into rushing touchdowns. It wasn't like Jaden Daniels went completely nuts, you know, as a
95:05passer. Like, it was fine. You know, he got aided by overtime. Um, so again, like I'm with you. Like, he's going to
95:11he has to be in the top 12, but playing more from under center, he's not getting the design stuff. I I think that the
95:17commanders are going to continue to not want to do that with him. And then I think if you get into a game where you
95:22know they're not playing as much man coverage like in really crucial moments where Jaden Daniels can take off like I still think there's going to be
95:28potential issues and I think that the reinjury issue will keep me from pushing him too high right in the rest of season
95:35projections uh whenever I rework those this week. But yeah, on any given week where he's starting it's just like you just have to start Jaden Daniels. No,
95:43>> that's a great point though about the man versus own coverage next week against the 49ers. if they're playing zone, all of a sudden he's got to get
95:48past Fred Warner instead of literally nobody out there. So, Giants got some goons in the front seven. I certainly realize that, but yeah, it's always been
95:55kind of weird that they don't get more production out of that group given all the talent in there. Also did not see
96:00just Jaden Daniels rush for a touchdown.
96:02Bill Crosky, Merritt, Dwayne, we had to start him in week four. Why wouldn't we?
96:05Rashad White was out of the picture. He immediately runs for a 30-yard touchdown in week five. Here I was thinking, oh
96:12wow, good run, Bill. Maybe he's still going to be the lead running back.
96:15doesn't seem like that's the case.
96:16>> No, he scored 14.2 fantasy points. He had 50% of the rushing attempts. Leading the team with 11 carries, nice 33 yard
96:22touchdown run, seven and a half yards per carry. So, like if you're looking for the silver lining, it's like, okay, maybe with Daniels back that just
96:29creates, you know, a situation where he has bigger runways. But again, Daniel's not involved in the design game. Like, this stuff is coming from under center.
96:37So, I don't know, man. Like, I would say this is a sell high moment on Crosky Merritt potentially. 14.2 PPR points. I
96:43don't know what you can get for that guys, but I'm not confident in it remaining. We had a 60% snap share to
96:48Rashad White in this game. So, he still led the way. He had Austin Eckler sprinkling in with a 10% snap share as
96:53well. And then you got Jaden Daniels potentially stealing, you know, some stuff once you get down inside the 10 yard line. And I don't think they're
96:59going to do that much with Daniels with the injury. So, that's probably less of a factor than what we might have thought
97:03at the beginning of the year. But, I I I can't trust Krosky Merritt. And of course, I did bench him in several
97:08places today. And like I I haven't even checked to see like how the other players did. like did it turn out bad or
97:13good? Like 14 points like doesn't like if he had scored 30 I would feel really bad about it. But you know 14 and most
97:19of it came on one play where he got 10 of it.
97:22>> Isn't that just the worst feeling? You lose your match up by like five and you just have to go check the bench. You're
97:27like all right, was I going to lose either way? Is my team bad enough to lose either way? Because that somehow
97:31makes you feel better than if you obviously made the wrong choice out there. So again, got to love fantasy football. Did we have any snaps inside
97:38like the five or 10 yard line? I will say with Kron Allen completely out of the picture now. Okay. So, >> maybe Bill could get that, but again, to
97:46Dwayne's point, Jaden's going to be running around anyway. Going to be going to be tough.
97:50>> And a lot of Rashad White stuff came due to the two-minute offense. That's where his lead in the snap share department uh
97:56came from. I mean, we've got about 10 snaps, it looks like, that were and that that's pretty big, guys. when you get a
98:0110 snap boost, all the two-minute stuff going to Rashad White, but at the same time, like, do we really think the
98:06Commanders are going to be in a lot of games where they're not trailing, like their defense is not good? I mean,
98:12Jameus Winston just absolutely just wrecked them. So, I I think we know that the Commanders defense has major problems, especially defending the pass.
98:20>> I can't believe they couldn't get more pressure, you know, just on that. I not that the Giants have a bad offensive
98:26line, just I don't know, surprising to me. Yeah, the Commanders just don't have an elite pass rusher. Like Sunny Styles, they use him sometimes to do it, but
98:34they don't have like someone that could just dominate a game. I think that's the challenge.
98:39>> Terry McLaren, Antonio Williams, Chicka Conquo, see some full-time roles here.
98:43>> Uh 76% route share based on early data uh because the overtime, this could be a little off, guys. But for both McLaren
98:51and Antonio Williams, uh Terry McLaren did lead the way with 12.2 two fantasy points, 17% target share, 13% for Antonio Williams. So, a bit of a
99:00disappointing day in a game where we knew that we didn't have Stefon Diggs.
99:03The weather conditions were kind of bad.
99:05Theoretically, Williams would be the guy that you would think would be a little bit insulated. Ian is still be able to
99:09get those underneath targets, but the difference was those really went to Chick. Chico Conquo was the guy getting the underneath stuff today. So, he had a
99:1526% target share, seven targets on the day, but a 67% route share.
99:22>> Looked good out there. I think he had a lost a fumble. He almost did at one point. So, yeah, good to see. I mean,
99:28seems to certainly be past that hamstring injury. To your point, Stefon Diggs is not. He did not practice all of last week either. So, again, could be
99:34better days ahead for Antonio Williams and Terry McLaren as he continues to get healthier. Going to be watching again against the 49ers here on Monday Night
99:41Football. So, an extra couple days to get ready. If we do see diggs back by then, it's just going to be tough again
99:46to be overly confident about any of these guys in a passing game that as we saw only threw the ball 25 times with
99:52Jaden Daniels running and I'm also just continuing to commit to the run themselves. So, good stuff in that NFC lease battle. Dwayne, I think you had
99:58something you want to go off your chest though before we get to the late afternoon games. Yeah, look, I may not
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100:58Moving on to the late afternoon slate, we had the Broncos beat the Chargers 23 to 17. Denver winning and covering outright as three and a half point
101:05faves. Under cashier at 42 1/2. I was just looking up the numbers and second worst performance of the season in EPA per play by the now Shawn
101:16Payeyton led at Denver Broncos. Dwayne, do you think Shawn goes back to Davis Web?
101:21>> No, I [laughter] don't.
101:23>> It would be a funny bit. He won't. He won't. To be clear, >> it would be funny.
101:27>> Man, that was I don't know what I was expecting necessarily, but it wasn't that. It wasn't 19 yards from Jaylen
101:32Waddle. He drew a DPI down the sideline.
101:35The one touchdown to Courtland Sutton, the Chargers just kind of like, you know, fell for some backfield action. JK Dobbins look a little better. Found a
101:42touchdown. Not like I watched that. I was like, "Oh, they have a run game now." They're facing the Seahawks on Thursday Night Football. Man, I don't
101:49know. Even with four teams on by, I don't know if I can rank Waddle as a top 24 receiver again. I don't know if I can
101:55do it, Dwayne.
101:56>> Yeah, I mean, look, I feel you. Uh, and whenever you look at Wadd again today, what we thought, okay, Shawn Peyton's
102:01taking over. If he wants to add a new wrinkle, maybe we decide to get the player that's on his wife's fantasy
102:06team, Jaylen Wadd. More than 79% route share. No, 79.3 on the money. Same exact role today for Jaylen Wadd. Again, Ian
102:15had the targets, had a 23% target share.
102:17He's been doing this every week. So, like targets per out run, all those sort of things look good for Jaylen Wadd. Um,
102:22but it's just there he and Bo Knicks just don't have the connection yet, you know, and again, these routes, we'd like
102:28we'd rather them be at 90% for somebody that you drafted in round four or five of your fantasy draft, and we're just
102:33not there. And that led to 4.8 fantasy points today. So, I think Wadd to your point, like he's you're you're guys are
102:41not cutting him. You can't really trade him. You're holding him. But, I mean, I moved him to borderline wide receiver 2
102:47last week. So I think now rest of the season you just have to say he's in the wide receiver three conversation. I
102:52don't know that we'll get him lower than that in this role. Like 80% routes with a 23 22% target share is going to be
102:58enough to keep him there. But ultimately we just need the Broncos offense to look better. Like it's just a dysfunctional offense right now which is really weird
103:06to be honest because even with Shawn Peyton letting Davis Webb call those plays, it was really still Shawn Peyton scheme and it's like it's gone backwards
103:14despite adding a playmaker that you traded a round one pick for. That's just it's just an oddity.
103:20>> The schedule's been tough, but again, it's not getting better on Thursday night against the, you know, reign defending Super Bowl champions out here.
103:26And they still have some tougher games even after that. So, I'm with you.
103:30Probably unfortunately more so just life where Jaylen Waddles an upside wide receiver three. All right. We did see a boom against the Jaguars. It is
103:37possible. Okay. And he even caught a touchdown before. Not great though. Not great. Did he catch a touchdown? He got one, right?
103:45>> Who?
103:46>> Waddle. He has won this year.
103:47>> Yeah, he has one touchdown on the year.
103:49Yeah, >> we have one touchdown. We have one.
103:51>> Yeah, we do have one.
103:52>> Oh my god. Freaking a. RJ Harvey, zero catches one week after having 10. Evan Ingram was the guy we could hang our hat
103:59on here. So I I don't know. I mean, even JK Dobbins, Dwayne, like I'm not going to want to start him. If you don't have
104:04a Denver Bronco in your starting lineup next week, good for you. You said Bo Nicks doesn't can't figure it out with
104:09Jaylen Wadd. Can Bo Knicks figure it out with anyone is the question I'm asking.
104:13>> I I think it's a very good question. 7.9 fantasy points today from Bo Knicks. Not like you guys had him in your starting
104:20lineups. He was pretty far down everybody's ranks, but 123 yards really, that is all you can get going. And don't me wrong, like the Chargers have a
104:28pretty good pass defense, Ian. Like, and they've remained a tough defense despite being put in like some really bad spots.
104:35Like, if you just look at some of the underlying stuff, >> but 123 yards, I mean, come on. What are we doing here?
104:41>> Again, he's played some good games, but guess what? you put any quarterback out there long enough, they are going to
104:45stack up some good games. JJ McCarthy played some good games last year, guys.
104:49So, yeah, not good.
104:51>> Uh Courtland Sutton caught a touchdown, but yeah, it's like you say, it's just kind of like who cares? We we can just
104:55move on. And you mentioned what happened in the back field already. We can move on.
104:58>> You sure? I'd almost rather stick with the Broncos.
105:00>> Well, we do have to go to the Chargers, so maybe we [laughter] should hang out for a few more minutes. I don't know.
105:05>> Justin Herbert this year, I it's I'm running out of just ways to describe him in the fourth quarter, though. Here we
105:12go. You're running out of room to move him down the ranks. Has he made it to 32 yet? [laughter] >> I kind of want to put him there. I might
105:18as well at this point. I mean, who cares? You're not starting him, right?
105:20Yeah. Put [laughter] uh get maybe get the backup ahead of him. Like I don't know who like Shador or someone like
105:25that just in case. In the fourth quarter this year, Herbert has zero touchdowns, four picks, 11 sacks. He has a 38.2
105:33passer rating. You actually get a 39.6 passer rating if you literally just spike the ball in the dirt. So Dwayne, it is actually not an exaggeration now
105:41to say that you and you or me could play better football statistically in the fourth quarter football games than what Justin Herbert has done
105:49>> if we just spike the ball every play.
105:51>> Just spike the ball and what we better according to the analytics than Justin Herbert. So yeah, uh now Lad was active
105:59but didn't play. Quinton Johnston out of the picture. Not that that would have honestly been a big saver. Trey, look, he was horrible with all these guys with
106:07his offensive line, but the fact that now Trey Harris hurt his hamstring as well. I mean, unless Charlie Kohler puts his passing game on his back, Dwayne, I
106:14don't see this changing anytime soon.
106:16And certainly not next week in Kansas City.
106:20>> Yeah. Yeah, it's really tough, man. I mean, we were excited to at least maybe get a look at Trey Harris today. We knew
106:26the offense wasn't very good, but you talked about it. The hamstring ended his day. Only played 42% of the pass plays.
106:32It was Marquez Valdez scantling out there leading the way with a 94% route share. That gave you 4.2 PPR points.
106:38Theo Whis Jr. Ian undrafted 81% route share. Uh somehow Lad Maki was active for the game, but I don't see one single
106:47route on the sheet that I'm looking at here over in True Media. And then the running back uh room continued to be a
106:53complete disaster with a three-headed committee. 32% of the snaps to Hampton, 41% to Kamani Videll, 33% to Katon Mitchell. uh rushing attempts 45% to
107:03Hampton, 26% to Kamani Videl. Kamani Videll did have a nice play for a touchdown. Uh he averaged 7.1 yards uh per carry today, gave you 57 yards. Can
107:13you start him next week? Absolutely not.
107:15You can't. You shouldn't be trying to start any of these players uh next week.
107:18So, uh offensive line obviously massive problems. Ran Slater, Joe all out like uh the center uh also. So, it's just yeah, struggle bus, man. I don't really
107:29want to touch any of this. Uh the question the only question you can ask yourself is how low is too low to move
107:34all these dudes.
107:36>> Yeah. Out of my freaking lineup, man.
107:38Even like Hampton hasn't been playing well and it looked like Katon was maybe coming on. So, you know, all due respect
107:44to Kamani Vidal. That was an awesome touchdown run. But yeah, I don't think he's going to displace Katon or Hampton, but I think he probably earned himself
107:50enough touches to just make this even more of a three-headed committee cuz guys, like we've seen bad offenses still produce a good fantasy player or two. We
107:59talked about Olly Gordon later. I even said a couple nice things about Malik Washington. It's just crazy to me, Dwayne. Like, as much as look, Justin
108:07Herbert haters, take a bow. Like, you guys are nailing it this year. All right. And there's We have five weeks of
108:12evidence that everything you But like, when you go back these past years, even if Herbert wasn't as good as idiots like
108:18me thought he was, he was still a hell of a lot better than this, man. He's literally playing like one of the worst
108:23quarterbacks in football. So, I don't know. Screw this team. Like like look if you haven't already like Herbert's cable you can drop him in like a a two like
108:32you can drop him in any league like >> maybe not like a 16 teamer you know that's a super flex you're stuck you
108:38know but I mean there's really no point right now because the schedule still is not easing up all the weapons are hurt
108:45uh you know the offensive line looks terrible like I what's one positive that we can say about the Chargers right now
108:50Ian I can't think of one okay >> the schedule gets actually worse so it's a negative >> [laughter] >> I'm sorry. Chiefs by-week, Rams, Texans
109:01in Baltimore, uh, until we're going to be almost at Thanksgiving.
109:04>> Yikes.
109:05>> It's Yeah, I mean, they may not win a game between now and then.
109:09>> You know, this was a day where you had, you know, the Broncos without their top two corners, >> you know, and it didn't matter at all.
109:16Now, now, now to be fair, like all all their weapons are hurt. Quentyn Johnson was out today. Lad Manunky didn't play
109:20today. Aronic Gatson 77% route share.
109:23Ian, zero fantasy points. Like I don't know what it reminds me though, Dwayne.
109:27It reminds me of last season in a way more depressing way where Mahomes literally was just putting on a Superman cape and running his way to keeping the
109:35Chiefs in these games. Now they went like 0 for 10 or whatever it was in one score games. I know the Chiefs weren't
109:39good last year, but like it was Momes pressing as much as possible. That's what I've seen with Herbert Rushing these last two weeks. I would be shocked
109:46if he is still healthy after another month and a half if he keeps playing the way he's been doing.
109:50>> Yeah, I agree. I mean, it was another 39% pressure rate today. So, it was a slight improvement than like the 46% he
109:57was coming into the week with. Uh, but yeah, we think we can move on from these Chargers, >> dude. Then Trey Lance on IR now. So,
110:04they would have to go to DJ I transferred 20 times. He is, if you haven't seen him play, >> yikes. All right. Lions beat the
110:13Cardinals points in this one 45 to 21.
110:15Detroit winning outright as five and a half point faves. I got to quit saying that. Sorry. But yeah, they they were
110:21five and a half point favorites and they won the football game. So over 55 in this one. Detroit has a buy, so it
110:26finally built some momentum there. Four for four on fourth down, four for four onscoring touchdowns in the red zone.
110:31They didn't get much going in like the first quarter of this game and then they were just unstoppable until they finally
110:35called the dogs off late in the fourth quarter. So Jeroff not one, not two, three passing touchdowns, two to Jameson Williams, his first two of the season.
110:43Also found Sam Laaport on a nice play design. Leaport is now the tight end four on the season. Bit of a down day
110:48for Amanra St. Brown. His down day is six catches for a still nice 69 yards, but obviously expected more and you'll
110:54get more another week, I'm sure. But man, Jared Goff QB3 in fantasy points per game behind only Josh Allen and Brock Perie. How about that for some
111:02upside? So, I don't really have any questions, Dwayne. The Detroit Lions are putting up a lot of points. And for this
111:07week, you know, we got a bunch for JMO, too. Hell yeah.
111:10>> Yeah. Yeah. Detroit Lions very good. You guys know this. 37.7 fantasy points for Jir Gibbs. He did say uh I guess to
111:17whoever the broadcast team was uh I can't remember it was on anyway he told them like in the interviews this week
111:25that like his actual his actual goal is to break is to break Leenian Tomlinson's touchdown record of 31. Uh you know what
111:33you might do it Jir Gibbs like you you have a legit shot at doing it in this offense. You talked about JO uh he only
111:40had a 14% target share so really in the same role but he did catch two touchdowns. He had two end zone targets
111:45in this one. So JMO gave you 18.7 PPR points today.
111:49>> And again, Gibbs today, it's he's incredible, guys. Again, like Bejon or Gibbs, who cares? Like, yes, they're both awesome football players and
111:58everything like that, man. It's just it's wild to me. And Gibbs was getting close today, man. There were three or four runs where he got between 20 or 24
112:05yards. He just still hasn't ripped off like this chunk 60. Remember that game against the Giants last year, Dwayne, where it was like, oh yeah, he had like
112:1315 carries, like 250 yards or something nuts. We're not We're seeing Gibbs winning on volume and touchdowns right now. He's been really efficient, but my
112:22god, he's going to >> per carry today, you know. Uh he had a 16 yard today. Uh he had several over
112:2910. He had a 10, but yeah, to your point, like he had a 22 yard um and an 11 yard, but yeah, we haven't seen like
112:36what we know he's capable of, which is ripping off like the 50 yard touchdown runs.
112:40>> And it's going to come. He's going to be breaking a hell of a lot more records than just a touchdown one at that point.
112:45So, Jir Gibbs, King State Kings. He's been awfully royal this season. Again, Lions got the buy coming up. And then we
112:51got the Arizona Cardinals. 21 points in this one because it it's just funny, man. Like, watching them down 4517.
112:58I mean, it's a 4514. Like, there's still just Jacobe and Trey McBride slinging it out there. I mean, they took Jeremiah
113:04Love out of the game, I guess. Like, do how is this team this bad? And we haven't seen one snap for a quarterback
113:10other than Jacobe Brassette this year. I don't know. But hey, he made people like me who are willing to rank him actually
113:16inside the top 10 and actually watch the football game not feel too horrible. He got an ugly 23 plus fantasy points,
113:24Joanne. But guess what? Style points don't matter in fantasy football. Yeah, 24.3 points today. Uh you got 292 passing yards, three touchdowns, one
113:32pick. Uh yeah, so Brassette came through. Uh ultimately like he wasn't better than you know Jaden Daniels, but Jacobe Brassette, I think a lot of us
113:40had him in the top six to 10 for for sure like this week and he did come through. Uh which you know how it goes
113:46when everybody finally agrees on something Ian, it can totally go the wrong way and I was a little worried it was I'll be honest. [laughter] But to
113:53your point, yeah, they do keep throwing the ball. Uh they'll keep their starters for the most part on their field on the
113:58field. So it did work out for Jacobe today.
114:01>> Trey McBride did like his best impression of that Chris Paul meme. You know, he hits a huge three to cut the
114:06deficit to 43. But it was legit an incredible catch in the end zone. I just hate seeing Trey McBride like dead last
114:12in euros per target and yards per catch because he can do so much more than that. But the surprising part though,
114:17Dwayne, was we did not get Michael Wilson actually booming without Marvin Harrison Jr. much to shrin of the handful of props I put down this week.
114:24But yeah, only caught four of seven targets for 30 yards. Did throw a seven-yard pass to Jacobe. That was kind of cool. But yeah, Tegan Quintorianiano,
114:32now the tight end four in PPR points per game. He caught two touchdowns on his only two targets out there. Kendrick
114:38Bourne caught five of eight targets.
114:40Like it was just one week for Michael Wilson. It's just, you know, it this goes to show you, man, of the, you know,
114:44week- toeek randomness that is NFL football.
114:47>> Yeah, that's all you're doing here. Uh Trey McBride 21.6 fantasy points, 7.3 for Michael Wilson. His role doesn't even change, guys, really with, you
114:55know, Marvin Harrison Jr. gone. Like, he's still playing the same role today.
114:59I mean, Kendrick Borne was out there more. Uh, he had a 62% route share, but they had Jaylen Brooks really playing
115:04more of the vertical part of Marvin Harrison Jr's game. So, it wasn't Michael Wilson taking on, you know, that role. He was still in the same role.
115:11It's just the randomness, you know, of what can happen in an in any NFL game. I will say it felt like in the first half,
115:17like they kind of had the Cardinals tricked up running all that man coverage. They probably came out expecting zone and then whenever they
115:24got into the second half, you know, they made their adjustments and and started attacking the Lions.
115:29>> Going to be taking on the Rams next week. I'll certainly be starting Trey McBride and Michael Wilson and not worrying too much about that. Will
115:35Wilson be more of like a I mean, I don't know. He'll probably still be top 12 with the buys. So, we've seen more than
115:39enough good games from those guys at this point. Still waiting on a true good game though, Dwayne from Mr. Jeremiah Love. Similar to Ashen Genty, man. Like,
115:46I am very open. In fact, I don't think he's 100% healthy out there, but I don't know if he's going to be anytime soon.
115:53I'm not sure when we're going to know that's going to be the case. And it's just like we're looking at the RB25 just
115:57ahead of Amaran Hampton and RJ Harvey.
115:59That's what Jeremiah Love has been this year.
116:01>> Yeah. I mean, um, it was interesting because he did play all the two-minute offense today, but only 12 carries. He
116:07led the team with 71% of the rushing attempts. Snaps were still really close.
116:1048% to Love, 45% to Alier. So, I think eventually, again, you'll still see Love like in the lead of this backfield, but
116:17to your point, like we just don't know when he's going to be healthy. I mean, he's dealing with two maybe two ankle
116:22sprains now. You know, technically, you should think the high ankle sprain should be pretty close to being good from the preseason, but you and I know
116:27how those things can linger on and now he's dealing with the right ankle sprain as well. So, it's it's it's tough. 100%
116:32of the snaps aside the five. Like, there's some utilization like decent stuff here, but then you're like, "Oh, 2.2 fantasy points per game." I'm like,
116:40"So, uh, what are we doing with that?"
116:43>> Not good. Not good. That's what we're doing for that. So, I mean, look, with someone like Jeremiah Love, it just
116:48sucks. I don't want to give him away.
116:50I'm also not exactly hitting up the Jeremiah Love, fantasy manager.
116:55>> Yeah. I mean, I would I mean, just I I still think it's eventually going to be there for him, but like there like
117:01there's a real threat of Carson Beck being under center like sooner rather than later. So that's also even if even if Love gets healthy, like we could have
117:08real problems. Uh like maybe Beck's good. Maybe he is good. And this scheme is a pretty decent scheme like for for
117:14creating yardage, but I mean most guys that were drafted in the range that Carson Beck was like and have to start
117:19as rookies, you know, they're not good.
117:21And and so like if you're playing probabilities, there are more concerns for the Cardinals than just Jeremiah Love's health. And so I think once you
117:28had the Carson Beck thing, I I I mean I'm with you. I I would be willing to try to buy just because he only scored
117:332.2 fantasy points. I know he's going to do better than that the rest of the year. So maybe somebody's just throwing
117:37up their hands, you know. Um but you just have to realize that what you're trying to buy Jeremiah Love for is
117:43probably low-end running back, too. I don't know how many managers are going to really be willing, you know, to move him at that price.
117:49>> Well, Dwayne, I know that we've been talking about some solemn stuff with Jerem, but I do think you have something
117:54that could turn that frown on everyone's face upside down.
117:58>> We do love to turn frowns upside down, Ian. So, let's just let's just do it.
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119:02Going to close things out, guys, with an NFC West battle. The 49ers took down the Seahawks in a close one, 32 to 29. San
119:08Fran, winning outright as three-point dogs over Cashier 47. Seven combined turnovers in this one, but a late JSN drop and a controversial, you could say,
119:18stop on Cooper Cup. Wound up getting the dub here for San Fran. But honestly, Dwayne, similar to the Lions, I think
119:23this one's pretty straightforward. Brock Perie playing football at an MVP level and even in a very tough matchup against a Mike McDonald le defense that's given
119:30him a lot of troubles over the years. I mean, the first time we really saw Brock Pury look mortal was against Mike
119:35McDonald and the Ravens back in 2023.
119:38Again, went out there and did good things, usually good things when throwing the football to Mike Evans, who man looked good and healthy out there.
119:44He caught seven of 10 targets for 113 yards and a touchdown and also provided us with one of the great alltime memes I
119:50would say already when Trayvon Diggs was trying to talk [ __ ] and he literally turned around Digs to look at his name
119:55and say who are you? So absolutely amazing moment from Mike Evans out there. A little bit of a dug game from
120:01George KD but again it was a game against a very good defense. I don't think we're too worried there. And then
120:06look Debo Samuel unfortunately hurt his hamstring. I'm I'm not happy he got hurt. I was just worried it was worse than his hamstring the way he hit the
120:13ground after he got hit there. So scary moment. We'll see what happens when they do suffer hamstring injuries. We usually expect him to miss some time. So if he's
120:21out of the picture, man, it just seems like this is an offense that's going to be condensed around obviously Brock Pury
120:26slinging it. CMC did his thing out there. Score a short rushing touchdown.
120:30CMC, Mike Evans, George KD, they're all going to be ranked near a top of their position and you should be happy if you
120:35have him on your fantasy team.
120:36>> Yep. 77% route share share today for Mike Evans. So, they were still keeping him in more of a limited role, which
120:42we've basically seen all year, but we don't know how much of it is due to dealing with injuries, which started in
120:46the preseason and then have carried through into the season, but got through this game without having to leave. Ian 37% target share today for Mike Evans.
120:54He had 10 looks on the day. 113 receiving yards, had a touchdown as well. Two red zone targets, one endzone target. Uh KD played plenty. 80 88%
121:03route share, 22% target share. Just wasn't able to convert on those. So, six targets, he caught five of them, only 24
121:09yards. So, mostly underneath stuff.
121:11Seattle did a really good job of being on him right away and getting him to the ground. So, KD in most matchups, like
121:16you get him those sort of looks, he's going to be able to add something after the catch. Just played a really good
121:20defense today. So, to your point, looking really good. Christian McCaffrey 88% route participation rate, 80% snap share. Did share some of the rushing
121:28attempts like we've seen here in the last few weeks, but still in a really good role. Scored you 17.3 fantasy points today. Get your popcorn ready for
121:37Niners against the Commanders here on Monday Night Football next week.
121:40Meanwhile, for the Seahawks, four turnovers. Sam Darl took five sacks.
121:43Again, did enough to arguably pull out the victory late. Unfortunately, JSN had an odd act of him not just being the
121:50best wide receiver in football. Still had himself a pretty damn good game though. Five catches on eight targets, 102 yards, and a touchdown. Even with
121:57him getting hobbled a little bit, man, took a rough hit out there. They showed that they had taped up the ankle. And
122:02right after they showed the ankle tape, man, he just caught a pass and looked like he was moving at a different speed
122:07than everyone else, including Fred Warner, who was out there peanut punching. And oh, I forgot to mention earlier, Jamar Chase, shout out. Peanut
122:13punch on a play that had two peanut punches. Everyone is doing this now, man. It is crazy. That was awesome from
122:20Jamar Chase. So again, JSN right up there with Chase as well. I would just say the unfortunate thing is JSN's really the only guy in this offense for
122:28the second straight year that we can feel super good about. That said, after the performance George Alani put forward, you know, derogatory, I think
122:36Emanuel Wilson, man, as long as Zach Char isn't going to be back, I still feel pretty good with Manny Wilson.
122:41>> Yeah, 60% snap share today for Wilson, 80% of the carries, 20 rushing attempts on the day. Only three yards per carry,
122:48but he did punch one of those in for a touchdown. and Ian played 100% of the snaps inside the 5yd line. 40% route
122:54share. It was George Alani getting the two-minute offense. He had 100% of those snaps. So, I think we know the roles
122:59until we get Charban back. Emanuel Wilson is the lead back. George Lani is going to rotate in, take some of the
123:04passing down work. But Wilson is the guy, right, that we're will that we're willing to start in fantasy football. I think Adam is running back 15 or 14
123:12somewhere in that range this week. Uh 13.2 PPR points. So, yes, feeling good about Emanuel Wilson. We'll see what happens with Charbanet. just seeing the
123:20pictures, you know, of the leg. I I'm kind of surprised the practice window has been open. But I don't know, like
123:25I'm not an NFL player, so we'll we'll see Charbanet if you can get your uh Superman leg back here before very long.
123:31But right now, at least in the immediate future for games without Charbanet, I think Emanuel Wilson, worst case, is like mid-range running back, too.
123:39>> And I don't think Wilson's going to completely disappear, particularly early on when Charbanet.
123:45Yeah.
123:46>> Yeah. I think when Wilson could disappear would be once Sharbon is like really rolling and you get Jadarian Price back from IR, you know, that's
123:54whenever it'll be more tricky. But for the immediate future, like Wilson's a viable fantasy asset.
124:00>> Immediate future, it's fine. I just wouldn't be surprised if we're sitting here in week 10 with everyone healthy going, "Oh, yeah." Kind of like last
124:05year, man. It was a sweet offense and it was still a struggle to like actively rank Kenneth Walker or Zack Sharp all
124:11that high.
124:12>> Yeah. And to your point, I mean, if Wilson keeps playing this good, like uh we could have a three-way split, right,
124:16with him and Charbanet and Price once everyone's healthy and then we just really don't want to touch any of them.
124:21That that that would be like the disaster scenario. Mayo Wilson did lose a fumble. It was a honorary fumble. It was a fumble with honor to lose at
124:30least. I mean, I think that was one where Fred Warner again punched it out.
124:33George Alani, I thought Tom Brady was going to get out of the booth and go like just show him ball security
124:37himself, man. losing that ball at the goal line costing a touchdown and then just honestly like I didn't I I watched
124:42the all 22 tomorrow. I think Hani might have had a chance to score if he just didn't have the ball pop out on his own
124:47there. So, you know, didn't get benched for it or anything like that. But yeah, George Hani not doing anything to dispel
124:53the idea that Emanuel Wilson will continue to be a workhorse. So, again, not the most common numbers here. Sloppy football game with all turnovers, but
125:00still a pretty fun one amidst all that.
125:02Going to be the Seahawks with a quick turnaround here against the Broncos on Thursday night. I'd be pretty surprised, Dwayne, if they get Charminy out there
125:08on a Thursday night game to start out the season.
125:10>> I would, too. Yeah. Yeah. I think I think we need probably one more week.
125:13Again, just I'm no doctor, but just seeing the leg. Like I [laughter] I mean, I I would be interested in seeing
125:18it. Like if Charbanet came out and ripped off a 100 yards like uh with one leg like I don't know, it's not twice
125:23the size of the other, but it's definitely bigger.
125:26>> There's a term for that, but contrary to popular belief, I'm also not a doctor.
125:30But we'll watch the film and get better as always. Mr. Dwayne, great stuff. The world famous, critically acclaimed, internationally renowned ilization
125:38report will be out on Monday afternoon.
125:40>> Yes, I will have it to you guys as soon as possible. Uh, you know, five weeks of data is better than four, better than
125:45three, better than two, better than one.
125:47So, we'll just keep trying to improve.
125:48Ian, >> well said, my friend Shush Report, QB, running back, wide receiver, and tight end tears coming at you from my end of
125:55things. But appreciate all of you guys.
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