0:00And just like that, 9 is no longer a Viking.
0:03J.J. McCarthy has been traded to the Giants. That is where we start our show today.
0:08Happened shortly before we started recording. Well, not shortly, a few hours before we started recording.
0:13The trade terms are a fifth-round pick going from New York to Minnesota in exchange for J.J.
0:19McCarthy, who is now in year three. So one, I guess if you count the fifth-year option, two more years where the
0:26Giants can evaluate what he even is at this point.
0:29Is he a viable backup for long-term? Can he even be, you know, maybe rehabilitated and traded for even higher draft capital down the line?
0:37I guess we'll see. But for now, EJ, your reaction.
0:40Ugh, not great. If we're looking at this historically, Kevin Seifert from ESPN posted this.
0:45According to Elias Sports Bureau, J.J. McCarthy is one of four first-round QBs in the past 25 years to start 10 or
0:52fewer games for the team that drafted him. The others?
0:55This is not the neighborhood you want to be in.
0:58Paxton Lynch, Trey Lance, and Johnny Manziel. So, yeah, not a list you want to be on for that reason.
1:04Obviously, there's some Harbaugh-to-Harbaugh intel here. You know, one brother had him in college and was one of his biggest supporters, is
1:11still one of his biggest supporters, was able to talk to his brother, who's now the coach at the Giants, and say,
1:18hey, this is what you're getting if you go after it.
1:22Giants, obviously in need. A couple of games at Jameis has been quite enough for them.
1:27Now they say that, you know, J.J. McCarthy's coming in as a backup.
1:31Sure, sure, of course, we'll see. But Jameis hadn't exactly played the lights out in the last couple of weeks.
1:37So, I get it. My Giants fans' friends are not thrilled about this for multiple reasons, but it is only a fifth.
1:44And the Vikings, on the other hand, clear up the uncertainty of having J.J.
1:49in the locker room. They also clear $4.6 million in cash for this year and next combined.
1:54They get a 2027 fifth. They do absorb $3.18 million worth of dead cap for next year.
2:00That's just prorated signing bonus from J.J. So, it's basically a wash, but it does sort of wash their hands of J.J.
2:07McCarthy and let them move on with the quarterbacks that they have now.
2:11So, it'll be fascinating to see. We've seen talented quarterbacks hit different destinations and thrive or learn some things that they needed to know.
2:18I have less hope that that's going to happen in this case because J.J.'s stats were terrible, terrible.
2:24They were not just like middling or, hey, he's got to learn some things.
2:28He was bouncing off the bottom in multiple, I would say, very important statistical categories.
2:33That kind of turnaround we haven't seen. But, again, he's got some time here.
2:38I would say he doesn't have a ton of pressure.
2:41It is the New York media market, so there's going to be some pressure for sure.
2:46But, look, anywhere you go in the league, people are going to be watching.
2:50He needs to play well if he wants his career to continue.
2:54He's probably got one more shot just based on that first-round status tag.
2:58Draft capital does travel with you throughout your career.
3:01But if he doesn't play well, everybody's going to say, look, it just didn't work out.
3:06He's a miss. And this is his shot whenever he gets it, whether it's sooner, which I would hope not for his sake.
3:13He does have to learn the offense and get used to his teammates.
3:18I would hope that he gets a shot somewhere down the line to get on the field and show people that really
3:25liked him in the draft what maybe he has to offer in the NFL.
3:29But I'm not going to put folding money on that.
3:32The thing that I find interesting is if you watch the Vikings this weekend, it's not like they were getting quarterback play that was sufficient as it is.
3:41Right? Kyler hasn't exactly looked great. We know what Wentz is.
3:44They don't have the quarterback situation settled. And they still traded J.J.
3:48McCarthy. And you can interpret that one of two ways.
3:51Either they think he is so bad that he still can't beat out what they have, which in itself is concerning.
3:58Or they feel that it's just not going to work in Minnesota, even if it might work for him eventually.
4:04Which does kind of bring that old O'Connell quote back around of organizations fail quarterbacks, more than quarterbacks fail organizations.
4:11I sort of see that as true. But I think if you're looking at McCarthy specifically, you can't really develop a guy that's hurt that much.
4:19Right? You miss your entire rookie season. You come back out your next season.
4:23You have a persisting ankle injury. In addition, I think he had a couple other things as well.
4:29It just felt like he was banged up the entire year.
4:33You know, wasn't healthy this summer either. I just, you can't get better if you're not on the field, particularly at the quarterback position.
4:40And especially for a young guy who already was, you know, inexperienced as it is.
4:45So I think they realize, hey, we're in year three.
4:48We're so far behind the developmental timeline. Let's just redo this thing with a new prospect.
4:53We'll let the Giants do what they think they can with him.
4:57But I think Minnesota realized like, hey, we have a really good team.
5:01We don't have time to develop this kid anyway.
5:04Right? So I think they're just kind of continuously cycle through veterans.
5:08If Kyler doesn't work out, they'll figure out another veteran next year.
5:12I really do think that's where the Vikings are right now is we have too good of a team to do the
5:19rookie developmental thing, at least with a high pick.
5:21Maybe they'll invest in a day two pick in this upcoming draft.
5:25But I think they are so far beyond that at this point.
5:29It does kind of feel almost Colts-ish. I was going to say.
5:33In fact, it's almost exactly Colts-ish because they did the same thing with Anthony Richardson after a whole bunch of vets and Anthony didn't work out.
5:41And then they got a vet in Daniel Jones.
5:44And then Daniel Jones got hurt. But these two franchises kind of mirror each other to the point where I wouldn't be
5:51shocked if they just take that fifth round pick and give it to the Colts for Anthony Richardson just to see.
5:58Yeah, it can't be a whole lot worse. Again, some marriages in the NFL are just not going to work for whatever reason.
6:05And people will want to assign blame. Some folks will say J is not that good.
6:10Some folks will say KOC is not the quarterback whisperer that he was promised to be.
6:15Like that kind of doesn't matter anymore because Minnesota as an organization with a new GM, who again was not attached to J.J.
6:22McCarthy, said, nope, we're going to clear our decks of this player, of this contract, of this issue.
6:28And we're going to move forward now. To your point, they don't know exactly where that's going to be because Kyler didn't exactly set the world on fire.
6:37Far from it. Wentz has been middling at best.
6:40So it's not like they were like, oh, oh, we're good.
6:43We just don't need him. It was, hey, we think we can leverage this for a pick.
6:49And at the same time, sort of move on organizationally.
6:52So J.J. is not sitting over there in the corner and people are going, well, what about the kid?
6:58Should we give him another shot? They obviously didn't want that.
7:01And they chose this as the path to take.
7:04Right or wrong? Time will tell. We'll see if J.J.
7:07blossoms somewhere else. Maybe it'll come back to haunt them.
7:11But in general, for now, for where they're at, I don't blame their new GM for saying, yeah, we're going to take
7:18what we can get and move on. To be clear, they do need a quarterback.
7:22They're just saying they don't need him to be the quarterback, which I think is a different sentiment altogether.
7:28Now, as for the rest of this show, the show we originally planned, it was all about underdogs, EJ, because we had
7:35a lot of underdogs that either almost won this week or outright won this week.
7:40I don't know what I finished on picks because Trev and I over on NFL Pro have a competition every single week.
7:47I feel like both of us probably did pretty bad because I don't think any of us picked any of these underdogs
7:54to win, and yet all of them did. Yeah.
7:57Teams that were struggling, that were considered underdogs, heading into this weekend roared back.
8:01And we talked about many of these teams over the past couple of weeks.
8:06These teams that were trending towards looking like they were having a problem this season.
8:10They sort of righted their wrongs, and we're going to talk about why.
8:15We're going to call this one Who Let the Dogs Out and talk about specific reasons that each of these teams that won this weekend actually did.
8:23What changed for them after two weeks of not looking great?
8:27And then at the end, we're going to talk about the Brazil game.
8:31Hold your horses. We know that's an instant classic.
8:34That'll be our capper to get out of the show.
8:37But to get started, Browns, Steelers, Commanders, Raiders, and Broncos were all underdogs.
8:41I want to talk about the Cardinals for a minute, though, because they didn't win.
8:46They were also underdogs. But they gave the 3-0, now 3-0 Niners, all they could handle.
8:51And it's pretty impressive because the Niners are operating at a level of efficiency I feel like we need to point out.
8:58So Josh Dubow posted this on Blue Sky. 49ers have scored TDs on 48.2% of their possessions this season.
9:04For the highest rate through three games since at least 2000, which for those of you counting at home, and I know
9:11this is painful, that's a quarter century ago. That's a lot of years at this point.
9:16I know. Hurts. Previous high was the Dolphins at 47.2% in 2023.
9:20So a full percentage point lower. 49ers are clipping along.
9:23And all the storyline about the 49ers is all the players that aren't playing for them.
9:28All their wide receivers are off the field. Trent left this week with an injury.
9:33Like, he looks like he's going to be back.
9:35But all these players that the 49ers are missing, they're still scoring at the highest rate in 25 years in the league.
9:42And Cardinals only lost by six. LeFleur had them pressing to win this game.
9:47And they did, to their credit, to the Niners' credit.
9:50But again, sort of like all these other teams were talking about, the storyline preseason for the Cardinals was tank-a-thon.
9:56That was it. They're just going to try and not win.
10:00They're going to hold Africa. LeFleur's come out and said, anything but.
10:04We're going to win with this group one way or another.
10:07Obviously, the other teams on that list, including the Raiders, had similar storylines in the offseason.
10:12They found a way to really sort of light it up this week and turn around the narrative, if nothing else.
10:19All these other teams got a W out of it.
10:22But Cardinals deserve to mention. I mean, the NFC West, three out of four teams in the NFC West are three of
10:29the six best teams in football, maybe even five best teams in football.
10:33And the fact that in two of the Cardinals' first three games, they hung tough with Seattle.
10:39That was a one-possession game deep into the second half.
10:42And then Seattle did Seattle stuff and just kind of pulled away.
10:46But they hung tough with them and they hung tough with the Niners.
10:50These are two teams that we expect, if the Niners stay healthy and if the Seahawks stay healthy, to be, you know,
10:57right there at the end of the season with the Rams fighting for, you know, supremacy in the NFC.
11:03Like all three of these teams are probably, if not the favorites, pretty damn close to being the favorites to reaching the
11:10Super Bowl out of their conference and they're all in the same division.
11:14Cards played two of the three already and were competitive.
11:17So I think this is a very solid Cardinals team.
11:20We actually said that over summer that this roster is a lot better than people think.
11:25It's just, you know, they have a deficiency at quarterback or maybe deficiency is not the right way to say it.
11:32But like Jacoby Brissett against Brock Purdy is not really a fair comparison.
11:36But you drop a really capable or even just like slightly above average, slightly above league average starting quarterback on this Cardinals
11:43team and they'd be a real threat. Like it's a good roster and they seem to be pretty well coached.
11:49It's just, they went up against a buzzsaw this week and that buzzsaw is Brock Purdy and Kyle Shanahan.
11:55Like Brock is, he's just been unbelievable this year.
11:58And I would say it's a continuation of what happened when he came back from injury last year.
12:04Because when Brock got back, I think we pointed this out in the Niners episode in the summer series, their scoring drive percentage was 55%.
12:12They were the most efficient offense by far when Brock got back.
12:16It's just, they were so beat up on defense that, you know, and really they're beat up everywhere that by the end
12:23of the season, they just kind of ran out of guys when they had to play against their own division in the playoffs.
12:30But like Brock was, he was sensational in the back half of 2025 and he's been just as sensational, if not more
12:37so in the first three weeks of 2026 among all quarterbacks with at least 50 dropbacks so far this year, which is
12:44a lot of them because we're three games in.
12:47He is third in completion percentage over expectation. That's from next gen stats at plus 7.5%, meaning his completion percentage is seven
12:54and a half percent higher than what it quote unquote should be for the types of throws that he's making.
13:00He is second in yards per attempt at 9.5.
13:03He is first in passer rating at 133.1. He is first in EPA per drop back at 0.63.
13:09Imagine every time your quarterback is dropping back, your score on the little ticker on TV just goes up by, you know,
13:15a sixth of a point or no, six tenths of a point.
13:19Like that, that is massive. Like second place in the entire league is 0.44.
13:24He's at 0.63. Like he's damn near 50% over second place.
13:27That is a ridiculous number. Nine touchdowns, only one pick.
13:30A 22.5% pressure rate face. That's the one qualifier.
13:33He has the lowest pressure rate of any quarterback with at least 50 drop backs.
13:38So his offensive line is playing very well this year.
13:41Even after Trent got a stinger, they were, they were playing great.
13:45But to see what he's doing with that low pressure rate, like this is, this is MVP numbers right here.
13:51If they sustain it for a large stretch of the season, he's going to be an MVP front runner because this is ridiculous.
13:59Yeah. With a lot of his guys on the bench.
14:02In fact, I had to chuckle when you said if they stay healthy because something came up this week for the 49ers
14:09that I don't know that I've heard of before.
14:12They're considering not putting Bosa on IR because they're running out of IR spots.
14:16I didn't even know that was a thing. Me neither.
14:19And the 49ers are the ones that show. Even the Niners haven't done that before.
14:24Right. So you're like, if they stay healthy, I was like, buddy, how could they be less healthy?
14:30They're running out of IR spots, which neither one of us knew was a thing.
14:34I think a lot of people were introduced to that concept this week.
14:39And Brock is still putting up these numbers. So the Brock and Kyle Shanahan, mind meld marriage, whatever you want to call
14:46it, is so incredibly effective that when they're both there, regardless of the supporting cast, and Kyle's done this before when running
14:53backs have gone down, when offensive linemen have gone down, he just doesn't really stop.
14:57As long as Brock and Kyle Shanahan are together, this team's going to put up a ton of points.
15:03And it's amazing to watch it happen, the precision with which they do it.
15:08To me, it makes it even more impressive that the Cardinals were able to hang in this game and really be competitive
15:15and have a chance to win it. That's really, really impressive.
15:18Now, as for the underdogs that are actually winning their games, we'll start with the Browns, who just beat Carolina this week.
15:25They are 2-1 on the season. They've won two straight.
15:28And the way that they've won the last two games just fascinates me.
15:32Because their average air yards per attempt is 4.9, which is crazy short.
15:37It's very much been a yards-after-catch based passing game.
15:39They've taken a couple shots here and there down the field to their young receivers, primarily Denzel Boston and Casey Concepcion.
15:46But they've tried to win on efficiency. They've tried to, you know, weaponize what has been a resurgent defense over the last
15:53couple weeks to give them better field position and also, you know, try to respond with sevens when the defense holds teams to threes.
16:01That was a consistent theme of this game as well.
16:04Carolina started out with four straight field goals as far as the points that they scored.
16:09Didn't get a touchdown until really late in this game.
16:12But those field goals were from the Cleveland 17, the Cleveland 22, and that was after Carolina recovered a fumble, by the way.
16:19So they started with the turnover and then, you know, basically went four plays and then had to kick from the 22.
16:26Then the Cleveland 35. Interestingly, NGS said Carolina should have gone for that one, but they kicked.
16:32And then finally from the Cleveland 19. So you could get to about the top of the Browns red zone and that was about it.
16:40They were holding you to threes. They weren't letting you get sevens.
16:43So Cleveland was just kind of in this war the entire time trying to out-efficiency a team that last year out-efficiencyed everybody.
16:50So it was it was just fascinating to me.
16:53Like, is it sustainable in the long term? Probably not.
16:56Right? You can't win that many ball games throwing the ball 4.9 yards down the field.
17:02But when you have seven different players getting three plus pressures in this game, you have Jared Verse teeing up Mason Graham to have a great game.
17:10It's just good complete team football. And if you play good complete team football, you can win games like that one.
17:17A, I will not tolerate the Harold Fannin Jr.
17:20erasure, but we'll talk about that in a moment.
17:22B, the Cleveland defense. I said they got yards after catch.
17:26That's just implied to be Harold Fannin. I'm literally talking about him without talking about him.
17:31I know. We should say his name. He was key in this game for Cleveland, but not the reason they won it.
17:38Back to the defense. Jared versus power with miles off that line.
17:42His power is the special asset, the trump card along that four or five, you know, that group of four or five rushers.
17:49And to Cleveland's credit, they are leveraging that even when he's not getting home using his power himself.
17:55Like you said, he's making big dents in the offensive line that other players are taking advantage of and that's complimentary complimentary football within the defense.
18:03So they are finding ways to win based on the way they're built.
18:07Is it going to last against teams that play better defense or, you know, create more turnovers or create more pressure?
18:14Probably not, but, you know, they could change their offense yet again.
18:18Todd Mocken still getting this group up to speed, but they are finding a way to win with what they have.
18:24Again, playing the games on their schedule that they didn't set.
18:28Credit to Cleveland for finding ways to make it work.
18:31You need to do that during an NFL season, but I'm with you.
18:35The real rubber hits the road moment is when they run into more quality opponents down the line.
18:41Can they up their offensive output? Because again, defense is bend but don't break and honestly, not even bend that far.
18:47If you're letting people into about the 25, you're doing a great job enforcing threes and that allows you to stay in
18:54the game even if your offense has been, let's just call it what it has been, moribund.
19:00It has not been great. It's been fits and starts, few sort of deep shots to Denzel Boston, but I do mean
19:07few and other than that, they're just sort of chipping away, banging away with a run game, four-ish yards a pop.
19:13It's an interesting start for the Browns and again, not one that most people, including us, predicted.
19:19Now, also in the AFC North, the Steelers won this week in a game that I really did not think was going to be that close.
19:27I thought the Bengals were going to wax this team.
19:30So consider this my mea culpa. I was wrong on this one.
19:34They did it in the exact opposite way. In fact, they did something that we've been begging them to do for pretty
19:41much the entire last year than Aaron Rodgers has been there, right, since the start of 2025 season.
19:47They threw the ball down the field. This comes from Ben Solak.
19:51Aaron Rodgers had a 3.19 second time to throw today.
19:54Second highest as a Steeler. The only other time he had a higher time to throw was ironically also against the Bengals last year.
20:01On dropbacks, longer than two and a half seconds.
20:04He was 11 of 21 for 213 yards, 10.1 yards per attempt.
20:08I don't know if he's ever reached 10.1 yards per attempt as a Steeler.
20:12He had three touchdowns and one pick and he had 15 attempts at least 10 yards down the field, which we were begging him to do.
20:21That was his most as a Steeler as well.
20:24So they finally opened it up, right? You hit a big ball to Roman Wilson.
20:28You hit a really crafty touchdown to Ben Skoranek where they faked him as an insert.
20:33Hard play action fake. Everybody got drawn up. He just took off and hit the vertical behind everybody.
20:39Like super, I don't want to say genius, but just nifty design kind of playing off everybody's tendencies for using these receivers as inserts on the run.
20:48Love that from them. Mike McCarthy, credit to you.
20:50Called yourself a hell of a game. I also want to bring up special teams.
20:55Cincinnati special teams was atrocious in this game, which in a way, leaving the door open for the Steelers isn't the right
21:02way to phrase it, but I feel like if Cincinnati special teams just was league average in this game, they still possibly
21:09could have won, but when you have a critical roughing the kicker penalty, which then gives the Steelers another opportunity to get
21:16a touchdown, which they did get a touchdown, and then you have a muff later in the game, which sets up the Steelers again for another scoring opportunity.
21:25You just can't win football games that way, even if you are quote unquote the favorite, like you can't be given away extra possessions like that.
21:33So their special teams was atrocious. They've now lost 6.4 EPA on special teams this season, which is second worst in the league.
21:41When you also factor in the explosive play rate that Cincinnati's given up, you know, we like their defensive line, but their secondary has got got this year.
21:49You just can't give up that many explosives through the air and be that bad on special teams.
21:55Like, pick a struggle, right? Like, you're going to lose to the Steelers if you do that.
22:01So, a combination of great game by Pittsburgh, mostly terrible game by Cincinnati outside of a few, you know, standouts.
22:07Like, Amarius Mims is just unbelievable. But, yeah, it's classic AFC North football, the team that we didn't expect to win won,
22:14and I feel like at this point we probably should expect that from the AFC North.
22:19It happens almost every time. Yeah, Steelers offensive explosion and the offensive line playing better, those two things were integral.
22:25Jalen Warren in this game, bunch of long runs, and they didn't even all count.
22:30A couple of them came back due to penalty, but he looked extremely explosive.
22:34Again, been big fans of his, but we haven't seen that pop over the first couple of weeks, and every time I
22:41looked up at this game, Jalen Warren was busting off, you know, good six, seven, eight-yard gains, and then occasionally 25, 30 and farther.
22:49Which, by the way, just one side note on that, those were at Dexter Lawrence.
22:54If you're looking at the run splits in terms of left versus right, they ran left 65% of the time in this
23:01game, which they were starting a new right side of the line.
23:05You can kind of understand that. 11 carries for $1.08 to the left.
23:09That's 9.8 yards per carry, and I want to say seven out of those 11 were at Dexter Lawrence.
23:15Like, even that big 30-yarder, you know, it was Mason and Fatanu that scooped Dexter.
23:19Like, they went right at him and won. You compare that to the week before where Dexter, like, shut down the Texans run game by himself.
23:28The Steelers were like, nah, we think we can take you.
23:31We have a young, talented offensive line. Like, this game, to me, was like the Steelers offensive line coming out party.
23:38This is what it was supposed to look like the entire time.
23:42Nah, I completely agree. and Max Ahanachor had a coming out party as well.
23:46We were big fans of his because of his massive potential.
23:50Everybody said, oh, I mean, saw him move with the combine and on tape.
23:54He had some very, very special reps and everybody said, oh, well, he's raw.
23:58And it's like, nope, he's inexperienced, but he does some things that are very polished from an offensive line standpoint.
24:05He just hasn't done them a ton. So, you know, inexperienced is one thing.
24:09Raw means you've got all kinds of physical gifts and you're just all over the place.
24:14You don't know what you're doing. He was not raw and he's showing that, again, he is getting up to speed extremely quickly.
24:22We're talking about game three of your pro career and you basically shut out the opposition.
24:27He had a very, very good game against Dave Bengals, you know, defensive pass rush that we just talked about in last
24:34week's pod at length and, you know, they're a tough unit to handle this year.
24:38I know it hasn't been the case in years past.
24:42It is this year. Here comes a rookie and he basically shuts it down for all the one-on-ones that he got.
24:48It was a very, very good game for the Pittsburgh offensive line.
24:52Yeah, per next-gen stats, Ihanachor, nickname IMAX because he's big and he's awesome.
24:5627 one-on-one pass blocking reps in this game. Only three pressures given up and even then I would argue against two of them.
25:03If I was just personally charting it, I would say one pressure but that's just me.
25:09He was great. Like, we said not just at the time during the draft but we also repeated it multiple times throughout summer.
25:16The Steelers got lucky that the Makai Lemon thing happened because they needed somebody to force them to eat their vegetables and
25:23I feel like Howie Roseman forced them to eat their vegetables.
25:26Makai Lemon was not going to fix this offense.
25:29They needed a real solution at right tackle because at the time we weren't sure what was going to happen with Broderick Jones and his neck.
25:37You got Fah Tanu who is great when he was on the field.
25:42He also had some injury issues as well. You needed a real solution at tackle and those are much harder to find
25:48than guys that are Makai Lemon's archetype even if we really like Makai Lemon as a player.
25:54You don't pass up on what could potentially be a very good starting offensive tackle.
25:59You just don't do it and the Steelers almost did it until somebody almost like kind of took the grenade out of
26:06their hand and put the pin back in. They took Ihanachor I don't want to say incredulously but like clearly it wasn't
26:13their first play but I think their backup option was their best option and I'm really happy they were forced to doing it.
26:20I think Steelers fans should be ecstatic. Like they really got something here and I think the offense is going to be better for it.
26:28Now as for our next underdog that won this was the most stunning game of the weekend to me.
26:34Yeah. The Washington Commanders upset the Seattle Seahawks Washington on Washington crime in Northwest Stadium ironically enough.
26:39There was a lot that went into this game that made it possible for Washington to win.
26:45If you're just looking at the box score it seems weird because the Commanders had 2.8 yards per play less than Seattle.
26:52They were worse on third down. They were worse in terms of overall success rate.
26:56They were out gained in total through the air nearly two to one and if you're looking at just yards per pass
27:03it was eight and a half to 5.3 Krosky Merritt had a 1.9 yards per carry like every number here was bad
27:10and then you look at the scoreboard and they put up a bunch of points on Mike McDonald won the game like
27:17there is so much context lacking in the box score which is why we watch these games but it was almost unbelievable
27:24unless you watched it live like that's the only way it made sense and still kind of unbelievable even if you did
27:31watch it live because Sam Darnold came back in this game and he was not rusty he was incredibly sharp from the
27:38get-go and that looked like okay again if you're calling these games early which is never a good idea I would have
27:45said all right Seattle's defense is what it is but Sam's back he's sharp JSN is carving him up like I'm gonna
27:52give this one to Seattle and go watch something else luckily I get to watch all the games on Sunday and what
27:59started to stand out very early on was the young offensive coordinator who we highlighted in summer series David Blau is aggression
28:06and timing he has it everybody talks about what you need as a play caller it's not just play designing it's not
28:13understanding tendency and anything else there is the art part of it not the science part of it and it's when to
28:20call what when to push the hammer down just that little extra bit to go for victory and quite frankly Shane Steichen
28:27could learn a thing or two from David Blau who just started this about when to really smash the pedal and hunt
28:34wins he was a aggressive and the combination of him and a very veteran quarterback Marcus Mariota who was really good across
28:41from Sam Darnold in this game I think overshadowed by a lot of throws that that Darnold made but Mariota made tight
28:48window throws over and over again which is what you have to do against the Hawks defense on any given weekend because
28:55they don't allow a lot of space in their secondary we talked about this I think it was on the Patreon pod
29:02in week one about how well that defense was clicking this early in the season they aren't giving up big busts and
29:09large gaps they are they're basically presenting you with very small windows and saying if you can hit him sure but most
29:16of you can't Mariota did the execution on those throws into tight windows was what made all of this work and strung
29:23it together despite the other sort of lackluster offensive statistics he was three for four for 40 yards and a touchdown 10
29:30point 10.0 yards per attempt on tight window throws very very good to 128 rating on those throws also very good completion
29:37percentage over expected 44.4% into tight windows what ridiculous it should go down it typically either under pressure or into tight windows
29:44that number declines it does not jump by 40 plus percentage points so when he needed to be absolutely nails he was
29:51and the play caller quarterback combination to steal the game and I say that because Mariota changed that play at the line
29:58and it's still only barely worked if you watch it back end zone angle in all 22 the Hawks almost had that
30:05play like in three different places or are you talking about that run that like the third and long run at the
30:12end right and Mariota goes to the line he changes it he sees the blitz they pack in he very clearly changes
30:19the play adjusts the back and they still barely like what he's asking his offensive line to do on that play it
30:26was a run around the end to the right and they had to clear and the way he'd align the blocking he
30:33needed basically all three players on his offensive line on the left to make reaches against the Hawks let me let me
30:40slow that down and reiterate it you need to reach blocks three of the best defensive linemen playing in the NFL right
30:47now and all three of you need to do it to make this play work and they did and again they were
30:54you know we're talking about a game of inches they were a hands-width away from grabbing the running back it is a
31:00bang bang play super tight tolerances but Washington gets away with it they get a large gain that is it that seals
31:07the game that is an aggressive play call now was it blouse play call was it one two if you get this
31:14was a Mariota just going whatever we have called is not going to work I'm I think this is our best shot
31:21we don't really know what that balance is but that combination of Mariota and blouse sort of clicking and going yeah we
31:28can make this work against one of the best defenses in football made this I think the most surprising result of the
31:35weekend and a ton of fun to watch because again just box scoring this one you would have said Hawks in a
31:42wash I would have said Hawks by 13 or 14 points in this one easily just looking at the yards gain time
31:49of possession success rates everything else in the end the commanders come out with a victory they deeply needed against an opponent
31:56that nobody expected them to be just the creativity to run the ball in that situation right it's third long you're you're
32:03seeing zero there's seven bodies in the line of scrimmage to call G lead there whether it was called in the huddle
32:10or just Mariota making the change of the line like it doesn't make sense on paper it's like G lead into zero
32:17like are you sure against the Hawks like against the Hawks right then you realize like okay if we're going G lead
32:24away from the pressure there's no linebackers in the second level so if we just clear the defensive line it's a foot
32:31race like we can win that and even then like the the intended hole is supposed to be off the right tackles
32:38right hip because the tackle is going to be coming down guard pulls kicks out the edge it's supposed to hit in
32:45between the pulling guard and the tackle but that backside reach block like God bless them they tried they did what they
32:52could and still it closed so quickly the running back was like I'm not gonna get there I gotta bounce this thing
32:59so it didn't even hit in the hole that was intended but because he was able to bounce it and there was
33:06no second level defenders because it's zero like we're just racing to the corner at that point I'm faster than you it
33:13was super creative it was ballsy ballsy and it worked great I loved it I mean to hit it at that time
33:20contrast that to what Shane Steichen did at the end of the Colts game after the long completion and then I would
33:27say much less creative or aggressive play calling blouse got a future and the future might be now I also want to
33:34talk about that pick six because none of that would have even mattered were it not for that pick six it came
33:41a John I believe said that Sonny Styles the one who got him into that correct because throughout the game I mean
33:48this is it's it's a Seattle kind of thing is it's boot flood boot flood boot flood and we'll either have like
33:55a down flat from the tight end as the fourth guy the chaser sometime you know Ben Solek pointed out sometimes it's
34:02actually the running back who will then come back and he'll be the fourth guy but flood isn't just you know a
34:09high a middle and a low it's a high middle low and then a fourth guy it's like trailing everything and and
34:16the idea is if you're not hitting that intermediate read that that trail guy whatever route it is whether it's a shallow
34:23whether it's a down flat or like it's a tight end faking a block and then pivoting back out whatever that fourth
34:30guy is ideally it's gonna be wide open and when you have JSN as that intermediate threat the idea is okay well
34:37naturally his gravity is gonna pull one linebacker there and then the other linebacker is just gonna follow the running back on
34:44the rail so when this tight end runs the down flat it's gonna be wide open it's gonna be nobody there but
34:51the little adjustment the commanders made which apparently was Sonny Styles call was no we're gonna have the edge play a peel
34:58technique the edge is gonna take the running back that's gonna free up Medrano to then fall back inside and Sonny stayed
35:05glued on that down flat as well they let the intermediate go Medrano floated back inside picked it off took it all
35:12the way back like I guarantee you that is not an adjustment that Seattle saw coming because who would realistically see like
35:19you're gonna have an edge peel on a running back running a rail in that situation like never happens so man just
35:26this game was so good for people who love watching tape because there was so much just good ball here from both
35:33sides like JSN was sensational Darnold other than the pick six was you know look like Sam Darnold you had the commanders
35:39just just just grinding it out and making key calls and key decisions and key throws and key runs like God this
35:46was this was good football box score doesn't look good but this was good football and Styles deserves a lot of credit
35:53for his mental acumen again we're talking about a rookie in his third NFL game who is calling the defense and made
36:00that adjustment and then physically on top of it oh yeah he's a mutant he's carrying yeah RB vertical routes 25 yards
36:07downfield making PBUs at 244 pounds that's that's Erlacher stuff that's yeah whatever stuff like you shouldn't be able to do that
36:14and he can do both in his third game in the NFL special special player there's another one coming out this year
36:21by the way have you watched Chris Cole from Georgia not to derail us into draft talk real quick you you sent
36:28me that and I was like man Cole can absolutely wheel and then it comes out today that he hit 22 on
36:35the GPS as a linebacker 22 I was like oh the old calibrated eyeballs still work that guy was flying and he's
36:42gonna be he's gonna be something during testing I mean obviously he's already putting tape on the field but yeah again not
36:49many folks who are that size can move in that way and usually the ones that can go to Georgia apparently because
36:56they just they never run out of them all right let's talk Raiders again boy this might be the most we've ever
37:03talked about the Raiders in a three-week period ever in the history of this show I'm not mad about it I'm actually
37:10very happy about it I'm just kind of surprised because the Las Vegas Raiders are 3-0 EJ and they they won again
37:17this week when they were not favored and they did so in a very Raiders-y way right it's grinding it out it's
37:24just giving a ton of touches to Ashton Gentty even if it's not working we have to show you that we're willing
37:31to do it you know Brock Bowers was back and looked like Brock Bowers I want to discuss the two numbers or
37:38the two letters in front of his name on the depth chart because he's not a tight end to me but he
37:45is a weapon and he's very good you know Kirk was good in this game he still still got a little bit
37:52of gas left in the tank you know the defense they started bringing more pressure as the game went on and had
37:59I think a 50% pressure rate in the fourth quarter when they were when they actually did start blitzing which which helped
38:06a lot and even though Tyler Shuck threw four touchdowns they were able to force four turnovers late in the game and
38:13get the win it was just a very very gutsy Raiders-y kind of win again I want to reiterate good football the
38:20kind of game that when you just watch it you're entertained from start to finish between two teams that I don't think
38:27get enough national love but this was a damn entertaining game to watch yeah and the Saints I'm gonna whisper this so
38:34the Raiders fans don't get mad Saints had it like the Saints oh they did the Saints 85% chance to win they
38:41had it they should have had it and there was even stuff that didn't factor into that that had like Bryce Lance
38:48got open three times in this game why do I know hmm I wonder anyways no Bryce Lance got open three times
38:55in this game and Shuck didn't hit him Shuck was very good on the day but there were two two big plays
39:02explosive gains and another one that would have been a solid gain that they didn't even hit not to mention the turnovers
39:09in the fourth quarter but credit the Raiders they're who we're here to talk about and they forced bumbles recovered three of
39:16them as a guy mass is who we talked about last week picked off another pass he has three on the year
39:23for extra possessions were the difference in a tight game both teams playing well to your point in that balance is what
39:30makes games fun that back and forth everybody's got a chance I'm not sure who's gonna win this if you don't have
39:37any skin in the game like that's the kind of game you want to watch as a fan and this was one
39:44of those N'Kobe Dean has been immense as an addition in free agency for them he is on a freaking mission both
39:51of us really enjoyed his college tape he struggled with some injuries is why he fell in the draft it's what happened
39:58to him in Philadelphia it's why they were willing to let him go he is healthy and he is mashing people he
40:05is tied for six with TFLs and three it's also tied for four tied for fourth enforced incompletion say that one time
40:12fast also has half a sack but he's been a missile we mentioned him last week as well he was all over
40:18the field in this one Quay Walker had one of the biggest hits from a linebacker I've seen yet this season and
40:25that you know that's just on the defensive side you get to the offensive side Brock Bowers first game back with his
40:32new head coach and I'm gonna say Brock Bowers the wide receiver and here's why only eight of his 33 routes were
40:39from tight alignments ones you would typically consider whether it's in line backfield fullback alignment whatever for for tight ends all the
40:46rest were wide or slot and every time he was targeted I think it was 13 times wider in the slot so
40:53you can call him what you want to I don't really care because he's incredibly entertaining and he's incredibly effective as a
41:00player again designation notwithstanding he put up a ton of yards ran a ton of great routes made a bunch of tough
41:07contested catches and was really the engine of the offense for the Raiders so call him what you want Brock Bowers just
41:14good football player his eventual contract extension fascinates me yes it should because what what pay scale is he going to be
41:21on I know what his agent's going to ask for yep he's going to ask for receiver money and the teams are
41:28like well he's a tight end it's like is he though it is he like let's look at the alignment data and
41:35the same exact thing happened to Jimmy Graham by the way back in the day correct Saints fans remember when there was
41:42the Jimmy Graham franchise tag fight because he got tagged as a tight end and he's like I'm a receiver like check
41:49where I line up it's in the slot over 50% of the time I think we're barreling towards the exact same thing
41:56happening Brock Bowers where you know the team is going to list him as a tight end but the agent the player
42:03is going to say you know if you franchise tag me it's going to be with a receiver tag and if we're
42:10negotiating an extension I'm going to be comparing my contract to Jamar Chase not to Trey McBride and that fascinates me and
42:17there's also massive ramifications around the rest of the league because if he does get paid on a receiver scale but he
42:24has the two little TE letters in front of his name every other agent for tight ends you'd be like well Brock
42:31Bowers got that money right so then Trey McBride deserves a raise or you know insert up and coming Tyler Warren Colston
42:38Loveland if he could ever catch a football catch or target at all target would be nice by the way catches I
42:45should know we are recording this before Monday Night Football so if Colston Loveland goes for like 11 catches in 200 yards
42:52you know why it's because we mentioned him but I just I don't I don't know how that negotiation is going to
42:59go as of this moment we still got a couple years to figure it out but he's not a tight end you
43:06know who's going to be terrified by that who the head coach of the Raiders yeah because he's gonna be like uh
43:13yeah team he is a tight end meanwhile he's gonna be like don't want to lose my top wide receiver pay man
43:20uh so he's gonna be straddling a very delicate line there because the production is obvious when Brock is healthy and on
43:27the field he's unstoppable the same way he was in college he is very difficult to contain and I'm sure the head
43:34coach at this point is like I really don't care like just make sure he's on the field so I can throw
43:41him the ball because I have so many good ideas about how to do that and obviously does it's their first game
43:48together talking about 10 catches for 116 yards and a touchdown and could have been more um again fascinating game the balance
43:55of this game hangs in the little things the small details the turnovers that go the Raiders way that is just enough
44:02to tip the scales and get them to win even though they weren't favored in this one one more note on this
44:09game I was not a fan of the play call on third and six that led to the Hezekiah Massa's interception which
44:16was the biggest swing in the game at at the time of that pick I believe it had vaulted back to a
44:2350-50 in terms of who's gonna win if you look at like the win probability chart on next gen stats like late
44:30in the third quarter it was down to I think 11% for the Raiders might have been slightly higher than that at
44:37the start of the fourth quarter it was 15% for the Raiders you hit a big catch and run to Jenty puts
44:44it back up to uh to close to 50-50 and then at the time of that Massa's pick it went from 50-50
44:51to all of a sudden the Raiders are favored because you get a big return down inside the 10-yard line as well
44:58so that was a huge huge swing play and I really didn't like the play call because every single route other than
45:04you know the check down to the running back which he didn't throw was more than five yards past the sticks and
45:11not only was it down the field on third and six where we we could have tried to high low somebody or
45:18you know run something at the sticks and just try to fit the ball in there just move the chains to me
45:25at that at that moment in time it wasn't about trying to get a chunk it was about just moving the chains
45:32and they wanted it all right it's a Tampa 2 look um they didn't show Tampa 2 pre-snap but they eventually got
45:39into Tampa 2 and from the far hash you're asking him to either a throw the ball like really really far vertically
45:46to give Olave time to then readjust away from the boundary side safety to go back to the middle because Olave was
45:53splitting it like if you look at on tape Olave was splitting the two safeties but he was kind of angling himself
46:00towards the boundary safety and so Shuck was going to have to throw it throw him back inside which means putting a
46:07ton of air on the ball and it's a hard adjustment to make as it is you're asking him to either do
46:14that or hit the far hash hole shot which in itself is tough to do against Hezekiel Massas who's tall and rangy
46:21and all that like even though he's a young player like the skill set of the skill set it's not somebody I
46:28want to test a far hash hole shot on because of how he's built and failing those two things like you can
46:35try to just absolutely drill the drift route in between the pole runner and the hook dropper but that's not a good
46:42option anyway like they were asking him to make one of three incredibly difficult throws on third and six with the game
46:49on the line and I was not with that I would have liked for them to try to open up something rather
46:56than having your quarterback bail you out with a hero throw I would have liked to see Kellen Moore help him out
47:03a little bit more try to drag these defenders away from each other a little bit more just I don't know scheme
47:10it up I guess for lack of a better word they didn't do that they put all of their faith in Tyler
47:17Shuck and when you have a left tackle getting caved in so he gets hit as he throws and you know ham
47:24sandwich goes towards Massas that was the ball game right there to me so not a fan of that play call but
47:31you know excellent job by the Raiders to execute and take advantage of that all right next up Denver versus the Rams
47:38the Broncos were the underdog in this game not by a lot I think yeah ish it was a narrow margin because
47:45they were at home but still like technically they were the dog and they kind of looked like it for most of
47:52the game at one point they were down 16-0 they clawed their way back into it you had a wild fourth quarter
47:59that ultimately ended with the Broncos coming out on top I just want to say first things first yes there was bad
48:06officiating Broncos fans I'm not taking the win away but I would like to acknowledge there was bad officiating and it tended
48:13to go one way the hands to the face by Quentin Lake I just don't know how you make that call in
48:20that moment you know I can kind of understand the refs getting got by you know the acting job of Pat Bryant
48:27because of the way he flailed and like they don't have the benefit of the replay because we had replay for PI
48:34calls a while ago and then Al Riveron decided to like torpedo that from the inside so we don't get to review
48:41PI calls so when Bryant sells it like that like I can understand the refs getting fooled that's what it was they
48:48got fooled by that but the Quentin Lake hands to the face penalty like that that wasn't them getting fooled that was
48:55just a shit call there's no other way to describe it it was a shit call on third down in the red
49:02zone and that that heavily impacted who won the game because if that call wasn't made okay Broncos kick a field goal
49:09it's tied there's a minute left either the Rams can go back down and respond or we just go to overtime right
49:16made the best team win but that call was massive Sarah Barshop had an interesting stat on this the Rams were called
49:23for five penalties in the final two minutes of the fourth quarter which is tied for the most penalties on any team
49:30in the final two minutes in a game since 2000 according to ESPN research if I'm a Rams fan I am enraged
49:37if I'm a Broncos fan I am I'm happy but I also acknowledge we kind of got away with one there again
49:43it's not invalidating the Broncos they're a good team I'm not saying they're fraudulent or any of the other stuff I'm not
49:50getting caught up in that I'm just saying that wasn't good officiating and it heavily impacted not just who won the game
49:57but how that game was won and it did put a little bit of a damper on what I otherwise thought was
50:04a really really good football game yeah a bit of a different game here in the fact that both teams were pretty
50:11much a slow burn for the first three quarters looked like the Rams were playing better football for that period but they
50:18weren't playing great football they started to slow down the Broncos had not yet heated up and then we got the fourth
50:25quarter which was exceptional theater and television that yes was tainted by two calls that I don't believe were correct the first
50:32one because it was just physically not correct it was literally the wide receiver dragging the defensive back down throwing his arm
50:39up again it's not a look that the refs typically see usually when there's that much commotion it is a defensive back
50:46trying to hold the wide receiver this was quite obviously on replay to us in slow motion obviously the other way and
50:53then the other one was more situational and this is if you want to talk about the art and science of play
51:00calling this is the art and science of calling a game as a ref there are times you let guys play and
51:07if it's something that's not really affecting the play yes technically you can call a penalty on just about every single play
51:14in the NFL there are so many people in motion it's dynamic you can find some infraction if you want to this
51:21one like it is a hand brushing across the face mask as you know the defensive backs going left and the wide
51:28or the wide receivers going left and the defensive backs going right it was slight contact it did not interrupt the route
51:35it was not purposeful it was not forceful again if we're talking about forceful contact to the head and neck that is
51:42something you're going to let go as incidental contact like when wide receivers down the field and you know legs get tripped
51:49up and two guys go to the ground flailing and you just go hey that's football like it happened it was incidental
51:56it was incidental contact but the problem was it was stacked on top of the other incorrectly called penalty and now the
52:03end result is the Broncos get eight bites at the apple inside the 10 yard line and if you give any offense
52:10even the worst ones eight bites inside the 10 yard line they're probably coming away with a touchdown because it's just too
52:17many variables for the defense to contain that many times in a row and to have it be in crunch time in
52:24a game that had accelerated and was exciting and felt fairly balanced to that point it was a little bit of home
52:31cooking for Denver I'm not saying Denver asked for it or paid for it or anything else that is not my supposition
52:38it was a two poor calls that stacked to really influence the outcome of this game and that's unfortunate Broncos are going
52:45to get the win it's always going to go down as a W for them Rams can you know lick their wounds
52:52and go for the next one but it was it left a bad taste in my mouth at the end of what
52:59was otherwise at least a thrilling fourth quarter I'm not going to say a thrilling game I do want to give credit
53:06to you know at least the Broncos defense for doing what they did all last year which is when Bo Nix would
53:13have a bad first three quarters and he did in this game in the first three quarters he was 13 of 25
53:20so 52% for 3.9 yards per attempt a sack had a couple touchdowns but just a largely inefficient game leading up to
53:27that fourth quarter and then in the fourth quarter four of nine so still not like crazy efficient in terms of completions
53:34but he had 9.9 yards per attempt and a pick because 60 of his 89 yards in the fourth quarter were on
53:41back-to-back throws on that last scoring drive so without those two back-to-back throws which was 60 yards in two throws his night
53:48was actually not even pedestrian I would just say it was bad right but in typical Bo Nix fashion when his defense
53:55is getting stops or in in Talano Hifunga's case just outright scoring and putting them in position for him to make the
54:02two throws that he needs to make he made them right and at that point you know if you are either in
54:09the lead late in the game or you're driving for a lead late in the game or driving for a tie late
54:16in the game everything else kind of goes out the window as long as you make those two throws right if we
54:22are down by three you make those two throws and then that eventually led to them getting you know eight tries inside
54:29the red zone as long as you make those two throws everything else is forgiven it's not forgotten but it's forgiven and
54:36I think that's the key difference you know when I when I dip my toe into the toxic Bo Nix discourse it's
54:43not me saying he's a bad quarterback it's me saying that he has had very bad stretches and were it not for
54:50his defense being as good as they are they probably would have lost a lot more games because of his inability to
54:57elevate this team for all four quarters he's able to elevate them for the two to three throws in the fourth quarter
55:04that he needs to but the only reason why they're not getting blown out the only reason why they're in position for
55:11those throws to matter is because his defense is so good is because Talonoha Funga gets a sack on third and five
55:18that turns a touchdown opportunity into a field goal opportunity it's because of Funga then gets a pick six which puts them
55:25back in the lead and even though the Rams did then immediately get a 48 yard touchdown and put the ball back
55:32in Bo Nix's court at that point you're one drive away you just need one drive the rest of the game doesn't
55:39matter at that point and he put together the drive that he needed to put together penalties notwithstanding so that is my
55:46frustration with the Broncos is because if Bo Nix played like that the entire time they would blow people out but because
55:53he doesn't play like that the entire time they just kind of hang around and it feels bad it feels gross it
56:00feels like disgusting football until you finally get to the last 10 minutes of the game where it feels like you're watching
56:07the team that you expected to be there and then you get to the next week and he does it again then
56:14you get the next week he does it again you're like this is this is insane like why can't he do it
56:21for the entire game this team should be so much better than they are so I again I'm not saying he's bad
56:28I'm saying he's really frustrating he's really frustrating because I know what this team should be and they're not that right now
56:35and I don't know if they will be that but until he puts together four straight quarters consistently not for like a
56:42week not for two weeks I'm talking for a month two months straight until he puts together four quarter games for an
56:49entire stretch of the season I don't think we're ever really going to see what this Broncos team can be and that
56:56frustrates me I'm not even a Broncos fan that frustrates me because this roster is really good the coaching staff is really
57:03good and I do feel like these 16-16 dogfights in the fourth quarter shouldn't be as ugly as they are and that
57:10is it's because of how he plays in the first three quarters quite frankly he is a dichotomous quarterback and the dichotomy
57:17is if he played like he does for again not the first quarter or even the first half typically the first two
57:24and a half to three quarters about three quarters worth of a football game they would lose every week if he played
57:31like he does as you said in the final 10 to 12 minutes all the time they would blow everybody out and
57:38be you know Super Bowl favorites so it's that he can have these incredibly cold bad performances to start games and the
57:45rest of the team plays complimentary football special teams defense they keep it close they know they just need to keep it
57:52close and then they basically deliver him the football on a platter in the fourth quarter and go okay it's time you
57:59gotta light it up now we need you to play like we know you can because we've seen you do it before
58:06it is a difficult way to play football it is a you know we didn't necessarily see the luck run out last
58:13year again they just maintained this very what seems to be precarious but in actuality isn't balanced and win that way but
58:20it's tough when you see him make these absolutely nails throws in fourth quarter deep down the field again these are not
58:27dinkin dunk and you know big yak gains he's drilling it 25-30 yards down the field on the money and you're like
58:34where has that been you've been missing eight yard outs for three quarters and it is it is difficult yes if the
58:41situation was different which it's not right he does exist in the Denver ecosphere of very good defense well coached football team
58:48that allows him to play this way and still win and I think the frustration for the people that don't really like
58:55his game is if he was anywhere else this wouldn't work they're probably correct and then Broncos fans going yeah but it
59:02does look at look at the look at the scoreboard there it's results over process and it's like well correct the results
59:08over process is fun while it lasts until the process catches up and creates new results that you don't like very much
59:15I would agree so that's that's why we're walking that's why we have this discourse we're not saying Bo's not gonna get
59:22there but again it can't be a week where he plays three good quarters and one bad one it's gotta be a
59:29stretch and we've seen this from other quarterbacks who've had similar assessments leveled against them Trevor Lawrence being one of them for
59:36a long time and then he did hit a stretch a couple years ago for six or eight games where he played
59:43the lights out he was super hot everybody said ah this is the reason he was highly drafted this is the reason
59:50we penned all our hopes on him it's in there see and we've seen it for a while now and of course
59:57he fell off that pedestal ended up getting a new head coach and he's sort of back on it but Bo is
60:04going to have to find a way and it's you know difficult for him as well he's under a new play caller
60:11lots been made of the handover from you know Peyton to Davis Webb and and how that's going and how tenuous that
60:18might be I appreciate it's a very difficult position for Sean to be like hey man crank it up like this is
60:25the not for long league we need results now and that's and at the same time wanting to let Davis Webb sort
60:32of take his lumps and develop but he's also doing it with Bo who isn't always hitting what he's drawing up and
60:39that too is frustrating as play caller so there's there's several levels a lot of moving pieces to this particular thing but
60:46Bo for his part controlling the things he can control does need to play better earlier in games and if he does
60:53so Broncos will have more comfortable wins here all right let's get to our last game of the day before we get
61:00the shot of the week possibly the best international game we've ever seen and that is a sneaky high bar there have
61:07been some really good international games including the one the last one that we had in Brazil the Eagles Packers game that
61:14one was also really good but this Cowboys Ravens game in Rio that to me was an early contender for game of
61:21the year it was awesome from start to finish there was great defensive plays there was great offensive plays there was drama
61:28literally to the last seven seconds you had former MVP quarterback showing out you had MVP hopefuls and Dak Prescott who's gotten
61:35close a couple times he was showing out you know pickings and CD making plays Javante Williams looking like vintage Javante Williams
61:42from North Carolina like he looks legitimately faster this year Zay Flowers looked all the way back I mean Jay Sean Barham
61:49welcome to the NFL right you get you get a fourth a fourth down goal line stop on Derrick Henry and then
61:56you come right back a few plays later get a third and one stop again on Derrick Henry through a fullback this
62:03game just had everything EJ I don't even know where to begin it was a sensational game and the NFL loves that
62:10more than anybody because if you are exporting a product and saying you should pay attention to this when you're talking about
62:17a country where it is not the preeminent sport this is the product you want on the field almost 800 yards of
62:24offense 793 no picks thrown only one fumble lost insane scoring runs five total lead changes or pulling even to a tie
62:31time of possession was split almost perfectly down the middle there was exactly 60 seconds more possession for Dallas in this game
62:38it was right down the middle you've got a wild ending that is theatrical and really sort of made for television Cowboys
62:45making multiple questionable decisions and the Ravens squeezing in that winning kick which again is redemption for loop the kicker you know
62:52had a similar opportunity couldn't hit it last year ends up hitting it this year for a huge win on the road
62:59per NFL research it was the first game in the last quarter century with two made field goals in the final seven
63:06seconds so a unique experience for the fans in Brazil it's a huge win for the NFL each team had many wins
63:13of their own within the game but nobody is happier than Roger in the shield that this is the game that ended
63:20up on Brazilian soil and Brazil is a huge market you know when whether it's on the bootleg channel or on my
63:27personal channel when I go through and look at the international markets for five maybe six straight years now Brazil's been in
63:34the top four right it's always UK Canada Germany and and Brazil right it's them and Mexico that kind of flip-flop but
63:41like it's it's a huge huge football country people don't realize that that's why they put games there in the first place
63:47it's why they put games in Ireland it's why they put games in Australia like they go where the fans like the
63:54sport and Australians like it the Irish love it thankfully gives me an excuse to make more trips to Ireland in the
64:01future so I'll always take that excuse but you know they're they're putting one in Paris I bet they're gonna put one
64:08you know probably in Italy at some point I'm I'm sure the Australia trip was a tester to see if like a
64:15Tokyo game would work like there's a lot of fans all over the world and and especially in Brazil like literally multi-million
64:22American football fans like not Americans but fans of American football in Brazil it's a it's a really really great thing to
64:29happen for the league to have that kind of game in that kind of environment in an emerging market you know huge
64:36huge win for the NFL obviously huge win for the Ravens too I do want to take a moment to acknowledge Lamar
64:43they didn't throw a lot of passes in this game but he was so efficient with the opportunities that he did have
64:50he was 15 of 20 for 186 not it's not going to blow you away but if you watch this game you
64:57realized how good he really was especially getting out of trouble just making the right decision putting the ball exactly where it
65:04needed to be two touchdowns no picks 136.7 rating he was awesome in this game I thought Jesse Minner coached really well
65:11like situationally you know they kind of bounced back from the situational mistakes that I thought they made against New Orleans they
65:18were perfect situationally in this game even down to post game when Minner was like man we were happy they kicked the
65:25touchback they gave us five extra yards like just having the awareness between you know the difference in field position between a
65:32touchback or if you try to kick it and pin them you know the average return there is going to be the
65:3930 but you do you know have the opportunity to stop them even shorter than that if you have a really good
65:46cover unit the Texans didn't have that kind of awareness today because they also kicked it and gave the Colts a touchback
65:53late in the game when when the Colts just needed a field goal so you know coaches that are on their P's
66:00and Q's in terms of of special teams rules and field position and kicking versus not kicking and punting versus not punting
66:07and it adds up it really does and and the Ravens just ever so slightly outcoached Dallas in in what I think
66:14was a great football game yeah we opened up the show talking about how good Brock Purdy has been through this early
66:21season if he has a counterpart in the AFC for execution at the quarterback position Lamar is that guy he's been tremendously
66:28sharp this year and we mentioned it in week one we said hey Declan Doyle called a hell of a game and
66:35and Lamar was up to speed immediately that mesh seems to be working he is an all-time classic at NFL quarterback he
66:42has a skill set that is rare it's not unique but it is rare you don't see the combination that he's had
66:49it's very very smart as a passer he's been in a ton of systems he is wildly accurate when he is on
66:56it his ball placement is otherworldly we talked about Mario hitting tight window throws Lamar has that kind of accuracy week in
67:03week out generally and it's so much fun to watch so seeing him get with a new offensive coordinator after having been
67:10with a good one in Monken and seeing him sort of not only just pick up where he left off but also
67:17maybe even ascend is has been a ton of fun through the first three weeks and and I'm glad the folks in
67:24Brazil got to see some of that as well all right we're gonna wrap this up with shot of the week we
67:31have really good nominees this week as always film is going to be on screen if you want to vote for this
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67:59for the patron episode is going to be this week but we'll get there in a couple days all right first nominee
68:06Eric Wilson bulldozing his way for a sack over Baker Mayfield or rather on Baker Mayfield poor Bucky Irving just getting railroaded
68:13on this rep he didn't really have a possibility of winning in this situation you have two Vikings screaming down the middle
68:20he was going to get run over regardless Eric Wilson's the one who does the dirty work on it nominee number two
68:26Trey McBride another just pile driver of a stiff arm we've had a couple of these so far this season and Trey
68:33McBride delivered this week's edition nominee number three speaking of something we've already seen so far this season Mansoor Delane once again
68:40crushing a screen he wasn't necessarily known for this in college not that he couldn't do it it's just he a lot
68:47of teams just didn't run screens at him but so far in the NFL he has been tested and he has stepped
68:54up and answered that bell he's made multiple great tackles for loss and stops on screen so far this season quickly developing
69:01a reputation for not being somebody to screw with in that regard nominee number four I cheated not gonna lie Jason Barham
69:08getting a two play nominee for his goal line stop on Derrick Henry and his third and one stop on Derrick Henry
69:15maybe it's unfair I don't care it's our competition I'll just make up rules as I go and then nominee number five
69:22Nekobe Dean blowing up Alvin Kamara in the backfield we mentioned he had a great game this is evidence of that really
69:29happy to see him healthy he's just been great for the Raiders so far like I said EJ stacked stacked shot of
69:36the week nominee list this week if you had a choice who would it be it's tough to not go with the
69:43Trey McBride pile driver stiff arm because of how hard he planted the defensive back the Eric Wilson one is interesting to
69:50me though as a dark horse because Eric Wilson was a guy mentioned in our Viking summer series episode and Flores always
69:57has a guy and you could you could argue that he has two currently in his defense but Eric Wilson is one
70:04of them who people the name of but is like absolutely critical to making that that system and that scheme work Wilson
70:11is that guy right now and this was just visually stunning watch him cave in the middle of the offensive line just
70:18kind of run through the rubble in the pile get up and then dump Baker Mayfield so those two are great the
70:25other three are awesome Nekobe Dean I like because so many people think of him as a as a rangy backer that
70:32can play the pad like this is old school linebacking this is him seeing the key and absolutely just firing through the
70:39gap meeting Kamara in the hole knocking him off his feet old-fashioned D cleater just I love that kind of football and
70:46it's again really good to see him healthy and making such a huge impact because we know he can once more you
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