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8 League-Winning Fantasy Football Sleepers (Matt Waldman)

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Jul 16, 2026
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Thu, July 16, 2026
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Michael WilsonDe'Von AchaneJonathon BrooksJeremiyah LoveJaylin NoelKenneth GainwellMarvin Harrison Jr.Parker WashingtonChris GodwinTrey McBrideAshton JeantyBrock BowersBucky IrvingChuba Hubbard
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Ashton Jeanty

NegativeBust0:04

Jeanty's disappointing 2024 season (14.5 PPG despite going at the 1-2 turn) is creating an overcorrection in the market, with drafters now being overly cautious on Arizona running backs like Love.

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Analyst highlights Jeanty as underrated due to poor offensive line support in his rookie year, similar to LaDainian Tomlinson's situation, and expects improvement with better support staff and play-calling from Clint Kubiak.

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Analyst is 'very much in on Ashton Gentry this year' and sees it as a potential 'league winner' type pick, comparing it to recent breakout seasons like CD Lamb and Saquon Barkley, available at picks 111-112.

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Brock Bowers

PositiveValue0:04

Bowers is mentioned as a viable early-round target that allows drafters to pair with Jeremiah Love as a strong running back two in a balanced draft approach.

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Brock Bowers is highlighted as a safer option in round two with better offensive context than De'Von Achane.

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Waldman cites Brock Bowers as an example of a safer player on a better offense available in round two.

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Bryan Thomas

PositiveProjection0:31

If Thomas and Lawrence get on the same page in the deep game, he could see close to 120 targets, around 1,000 yards and seven scores for a nice rebound season.

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Bucky Irving

NegativeInjury0:43

Irving's injury recovery took longer than expected, with uncertainty about his return timeline, causing the analyst to distrust his durability heading into the season.

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NegativeBust0:43

The Buccaneers are hedging their bets against Irving by keeping Sean Tucker and adding Kenneth Gainwell, suggesting they lack confidence in Irving's durability and between-the-tackles ability.

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NegativeValue0:45

Irving's presence in a crowded backfield with Gainwell and Tucker caps his upside case, even for those bullish on him, making him a fade relative to his ADP.

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C.J. Stroud

PositiveMatchup0:34

Stroud struggles under unadulterated pressure (non-blitz) and looks for quick answers with inside receivers and slot guys, making him reliant on quick-hitting targets like Jaylen Noel.

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Chris Godwin

PositiveSleeper0:18

Waldman is bullish on Godwin as a sleeper, highlighting his versatility (outside, jump ball, YAC, slot), noting he's underrated and will fill the void left by Mike Evans' departure with a big role in Tampa Bay's offense.

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With Mike Evans gone, Godwin is expected to fill a big void and take over a lot of what Evans did. Coaches indicate Godwin will have a big role this year, and he's now fully healthy with injuries that shouldn't have deleterious effects moving forward.

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PositiveBreakout0:18

Godwin is described as one of the most underrated receivers of his generation with versatile skills—able to play outside, win jump balls, be a YAC guy, and play in the slot.

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PositiveProjection0:20

Godwin is expected to be heavily targeted and get 120 targets again, positioning him as a strong wide receiver three or four in drafts.

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Chuba Hubbard

NegativeProjection0:40

Chuba Hubbard is expected to be nothing more than a running back two by midseason, with Jonathan Brooks poised to take over the lead role.

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Chuba Hubbard, while a warrior who plays with incredible effort and finished as RB15 last season, is less naturally talented than Jonathan Brooks and limited in receiving and screen game usage compared to what Canales wants to implement.

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D'Andre Swift

PositiveRole0:09

Swift benefited from Jalen Hurts' running ability and a strong offensive line that opened up opportunities, though he was a mediocre decision-maker early in his career before improving in Chicago under Eric Bieniemy.

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PositiveMatchup0:09

Analyst cites DeAndre Swift's production with Jalen Hurts as an example of how a running quarterback with a good offensive line and defensive attention can open up opportunities for a pass-catching back.

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David Montgomery

PositiveRole0:33

Montgomery is characterized as a high-volume, back-breaking type of running back in the Texans backfield, suggesting significant offensive role and usage.

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De'Von Achane

PositiveProjection0:08

Achane had 1,300+ rushing yards last year and averaged over 20 points per game in fantasy, with 135+ combined receptions over the last two seasons providing a strong weekly floor.

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NegativeBust0:08

Market is fearful that Achane's receiving production could decline with Malik Willis at quarterback, creating polarization around his draft value despite his elite fantasy ceiling.

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Analyst describes Achane as 'the biggest conundrum of the fantasy football drafts in 2026' due to uncertainty about whether the Dolphins' system with Malik Willis will be structured to maximize his production.

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NegativeProjection0:11

Worst-case scenario projects Achane to 45-50 targets as a receiver with 35-40 catches and 300 yards, a significant decline from expectations, if Willis struggles to make full-field reads and the offense stalls after an initial hot start.

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NegativeBust0:12

Analyst is cautious on Achane as a fantasy asset because he doesn't trust the Dolphins' new quarterback and system, despite acknowledging Achane is a great player; Achane could be a 'trap door' if Willis struggles.

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Despite loving Achane, there are safer options in round two including three other running backs, Drake London, and Brock Bowers on better offenses, making Achane less of a priority at his ADP of 18 overall.

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Waldman is willing to draft Achane but notes the second round is really strong, so he's not as eager to target him early as he was when ADP was around 18 overall.

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Achane is referenced as a game-breaker in the Texans backfield, contrasting with David Montgomery's back-breaking role.

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Drake London

PositiveValue0:14

Drake London is mentioned as a safer option in round two with better offensive context than De'Von Achane.

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Waldman mentions Drake London as an example of a safer player on a better offense available in round two, implying he prefers other options in that range.

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Foster Moreau

NegativeDepth Chart0:33

Moreau is noted as older and frequently injured, limiting his role in the Texans' potential two-tight-end packages despite being a good blocker.

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James Conner

NegativeDepth Chart0:03

Conner is unlikely to remain on the Cardinals roster by the end of preseason, clearing the way for Love to be the primary back.

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Jaylin Noel

PositiveSleeper0:32

Waldman identifies Jaylen Noel as a league-winning sleeper available in the 18th round on Underdog, highlighting his potential as a quick-hitting slot receiver who benefits from C.J. Stroud's pressure tendencies and could develop into weekly viability as a WR3/flex.

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PositiveSleeper0:32

Jaylen Noel is available in the 18th round on Underdog and has been a favorite deep sleeper pick with potential to develop into weekly viability and help at WR3 or flex.

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Noel is positioned as the quick-hitting slot receiver who Stroud targets in high-leverage and difficult situations, with the ability to play multiple positions on the field.

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PositiveProjection0:35

Waldman projects a high-end ceiling for Noel of 100 targets, 65-70 catches, 800-900 yards, and 4-6 touchdowns, which would make him a viable WR3/flex in fantasy if Nico Collins plays around 13-14 games.

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Noel is the cheapest secondary option in Houston's passing game at 18th round ADP, making him a low-risk, high-reward shot in all draft formats.

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Jeremiyah Love

PositiveRole0:01

Love will receive significant checkdown opportunities regardless of whether Jacoby Brissett or a backup (Carson Beck or Gardner Minshew) starts, and will benefit from garbage-time touches and draw plays in negative game scripts.

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Love is a big-play weapon capable of high touch volume and backfield looks, with a playing style reminiscent of Alvin Kamara in terms of versatility and ceiling potential.

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Waldman ranks Love among the top 25-30 players on the board, suggesting he should be drafted a round or two earlier than his current ADP.

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Waldman projects Love at approximately 1,300-1,400 total yards with 82 targets, 62 catches for 482 receiving yards and 2 TDs, plus 900 rushing yards and 5 rushing TDs on 210 attempts.

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Love has potential for a 90-catch season in the coming years given his pass-catching ability and Kamara-like versatility.

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PositiveValue0:34

Love is settling into the third round in FFPC and NFFC formats but has been drafted as early as 34th overall in some high-stakes contests, suggesting drafters may be overcautious given his prospect pedigree and potential.

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Jonathon Brooks

PositiveProjection0:38

Jonathan Brooks could finish as a top-15 running back this season if he stays healthy, driven by his receiving ability and balanced skill set that fits coordinator Canales' system.

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PositiveInjury0:39

Jonathan Brooks should be close to 100% health after multiple years off since his ACL tear, with a longer recovery window than initially expected, though acceleration durability throughout the season remains a concern.

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Jonathan Brooks is subtly one of the best running backs in his class and represents a more naturally talented option than Chuba Hubbard, with better all-around skills including contact balance, receiving, and pass protection.

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Jonathan Brooks' receiving ability and natural talent position him to be utilized in screen passes and designed plays out of the backfield under Canales, an advantage over Chuba Hubbard.

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PositiveProjection0:41

If Brooks stays healthy, he could produce a top-15 running back season based on his receiving ability and balanced skill set, with projections around 1,300-1,400 total yards and 7-9 touchdowns.

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PositiveRole0:41

Canales wants to utilize Brooks in the screen game and with design looks out of the backfield, leveraging his receiving ability more than was done with Chuba Hubbard.

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PositiveBreakout0:41

Brooks is a more natural talent than Chuba Hubbard, and Carolina's commitment to him suggests they want it to work, with analyst projecting around 950 yards and 6 touchdowns as a baseline, potentially rising to 1,300-1,400 yards and 7-9 touchdowns with positive news.

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Josh Love

PositiveBreakout0:04

Analyst suggests Love could potentially have a 90-catch season in the next couple of years, highlighting his pass-catching ability similar to Alvin Kamara.

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Analyst projects Love at just under 500 yards receiving with 82 targets and 62 catches, plus 900 yards and 5 touchdowns rushing on 210 attempts, totaling 1,300-1,400 yards—described as 'strong' and 'very Kamara-like' production.

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Kenneth Gainwell

PositiveRole0:43

Gainwell is expected to lead the Buccaneers' receiving game and get around 200 touches in the running game, with the analyst comparing him to Tiki Barber as a smart, versatile runner who can catch and block.

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Gainwell is compared to Tiki Barber as a smart, versatile runner with good receiving ability and blocking skills, and coaches consistently love him across multiple NFL teams.

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PositiveProjection0:44

Gainwell is projected as an 1,100-1,200 yard total runner with 8-11 touchdowns, expected to be the trusted red zone target in Tampa Bay's backfield.

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PositiveSleeper0:45

Gainwell represents significant value in the dead zone of running back selections and should be drafted in almost every league given his receiving prowess and role in Tampa Bay's offense.

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PositiveValue0:45

Gainwell is one of the reasons to be open-minded to hero RB strategy this year, offering value in what was traditionally considered the dead zone of running back selections.

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Malik Willis

NegativeProjection0:09

Willis is heavily schemed with one-two read looks and misdirection, but analyst is concerned that after 4-5 games defenses will shut down this scheme, forcing Willis into a Justin Fields-like situation where he relies too heavily on his legs and stalls drives due to poor ball distribution.

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Marlon Mack

NegativeRole0:33

Mack is described as a raw player who won't make as big an impact as some people expect, despite being drafted early.

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Marvin Harrison Jr.

PositiveRole0:22

Harrison will assume the Davante Adams role in the Cardinals offense, which is the higher-target role compared to the Puka Nacua role going to Wilson.

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NegativeBust0:22

Harrison is not the elite wide receiver people expected; he's more of a Mike Williams or T Higgins type player. He struggles with contested catches and route running across the middle, preferring vertical routes with his back to the quarterback.

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NegativeBust0:23

Harrison Jr. struggles with contested catch situations and tracking the ball on routes that break across the middle, a persistent issue since Ohio State that limits him from being an elite wide receiver.

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NegativeRole0:23

Harrison Jr. was benched as the wide receiver one last year because Kyler Murray would skip him on reads, suggesting trust issues with his ability to get open in certain looks.

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NegativeProjection0:26

Analyst projects Harrison Jr. for 800-900 receiving yards with about 6 touchdowns, not the elite wide receiver production expected, more comparable to a Mike Williams or T Higgins type player.

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Michael Wilson

PositiveValue0:21

Michael Wilson is one of the better best ball clicks at wide receiver, ranked WR45 on Underdog, which seems exceedingly low given his strong performance last year.

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Wilson will assume the Puka Nacua role in the Cardinals offense, making him a key target in an offense that lacks depth at wide receiver beyond Harrison and McBride.

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PositiveBreakout0:24

Wilson is positioned as the clear number one receiver in the Cardinals offense ahead of Harrison Jr., with elite route-running ability reminiscent of Michael Thomas and strong contested catch production.

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PositiveProjection0:26

Analyst projects Michael Wilson for 1,200 receiving yards with 8 touchdowns this year, establishing him as the clear WR1 in the Cardinals offense.

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Wilson offers exceptional value at his WR46 price tag on Underdog, with a floor of 900-1,100 receiving yards that would represent a winning pick at that cost.

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PositiveSleeper0:27

Wilson is a year-three breakout candidate with 78 catches and over 1,000 receiving yards last year, offering weekly contributor upside below the ADP of spike-week receivers like Xavier Worthy and Jordan Addison.

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PositiveUsage0:28

Wilson had the number one or tied for second contested catch rate last year with George Pickens, showing he earns his targets rather than benefiting from garbage time.

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PositiveMatchup0:28

Wilson had the number one or tied for second contested catch rate last year with George Pickens, debunking concerns about garbage time production and confirming his ability to win in difficult situations.

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PositiveRole0:28

Wilson is one of the top two highest targeted players in the offense and will remain so even if Carson Beck takes over, maintaining his fantasy relevance.

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Mike Evans

PositiveRole0:19

Evans has departed Tampa Bay, creating a void in the offense that Godwin is expected to fill.

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Nico Collins

PositiveDepth Chart0:35

Collins has a history of missing games throughout seasons, averaging around 13-14 games played, which impacts target distribution for other Texans receivers like Jaylen Noel.

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Parker Washington

PositiveSleeper0:29

Analyst has been bullish on Parker Washington for three years, describing him as a physical player with Hines Ward-type contested catch skills and more speed.

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Parker Washington has proven he cannot be denied and is now the centerpiece of the Jaguars offense, with potential to be a feature player.

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PositiveProjection0:31

Parker Washington is projected for 140-150 targets, 90-100 receptions, and about 1,200 yards and eight scores, placing him about two rounds over his ADP.

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PositiveValue0:32

Analyst is taking Parker Washington all day at his current ADP, projecting him two rounds below his fair value.

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PositiveRole0:32

Trevor Lawrence has always had strong rapport with Parker Washington, especially in the red zone, and trusts him as a proven player.

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Sean Tucker

PositiveRole0:43

Tucker was retained by Tampa Bay as an RFA and is expected to combine with Irving for around 200 touches in the running game, complementing Gainwell's role.

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Tank Dell

NegativeInjury0:34

Waldman expresses low confidence in Tank Dell's return to form, stating he doesn't trust Dell to get back to where he was or ever reach that level, despite the Texans giving him every chance.

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Travis Etienne

NegativeBust0:30

Etienne is characterized as a tease who needs 50 targets to win, which doesn't translate to fantasy success, and will be part of a three-way split in the Jaguars offense.

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Trey McBride

PositiveProjection0:28

McBride is projected to receive close to 160 targets and 120 receptions, with safety as a floor given the Cardinals' weak defense and high passing volume.

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Analyst projects Trey McBride for approximately 160 targets, 120 receptions, and 1,200 receiving yards, establishing him as a primary read in the Cardinals offense alongside Wilson.

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McBride will be a primary read in the Cardinals offense alongside Wilson, benefiting from the team's weak defense forcing them to throw frequently from behind.

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McBride will be the first read on many plays in the Cardinals offense, ensuring consistent target volume.

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Tyler Allgeier

PositiveRole0:03

Allgeier will assume a secondary role similar to what Bijan Robinson had, capable of flex-play value in certain weeks but not competing with Love's primary role.

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Zay Jones

PositiveProjection0:31

Zay Jones will be the number three receiver for Jacksonville, projected to receive about 110 targets, 70 catches, 850-900 yards and six scores.

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Full transcript

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0:06>> Talk in 2026 fantasy football sleepers with Matt Waldman, but before we get going on some of Matt's deeper sleepers, I want to pick your brain Matt on
0:15Jeremiah Love. You came on Dynasty Life with me this past off-season. We talked about Jeremiah Love the prospect and how, you know, you've been doing this a
0:23long time. RSP is sort of legendary at this point, but Love was one of like a handful of better or running back
0:31prospects that you've evaluated in recent memory.
0:34Now he's sitting there in drafts and I'm a little bit surprised at the caution that I'm seeing specifically with with high-stakes drafters where Love is
0:43settled into the third round in both FFPC and on in NFFC formats, but you're seeing these occasional one-off drafts where I saw Jeremiah Love going like
0:5340th overall in a $350 NFFC contest. We saw him going at the 34 overall in the FFPC, uh, you know, with that right around
1:03that 310 range. Do you think the drafters are being a little too cautious with Jeremiah Love looking at the negative aspects of Arizona and not
1:13focusing in on the positive traits he brings to the position and the potential for spike weeks as the season moves along?
1:19>> Oh, absolutely I think they are because I think the the problem is is you want to try and investigate what would be the
1:26sources for that that tentative look outlook on the player. And I think part of it is is that we don't know if Jacoby
1:34Brissett's going to be the starter all year. And even if he is the starter all year, will he be like quarterback six
1:42like he was while he was playing during the season. And I think a lot of people believe that that's not going to be the
1:49case and that we're going to see that that Brissett was kind of a one-year wonder. The offensive line maybe isn't as good as they they they have concerns
1:58about that, the defense, that the game scripts aren't going to be great. So, is he really going to get all the touches?
2:03You have this veteran backfield with a lot of guys who who are pretty darn good, but I think that you add all that together and and
2:12sometimes you overlook the context with each of those points. And I think one of those points is that um Jacoby Brissett,
2:19whether he's the starter all year or whether they go to Carson Beck or Gardner Minshew, either of those backups will likely be
2:27checking the ball down. And so, you're going to still see a lot of touches for Jeremiah Love out of the backfield as a
2:33checkdown option. If they're in garbage time mode, well, guess what defenses do?
2:38They place soft cushions underneath and let you drive the field and and wind the clock. And that means that Love's going
2:45to get a lot of garbage time catches. Um he's going to get a lot of draw plays, he's going to get a chance to rip off
2:50some big runs that may not be 50-60 yard touchdowns, but 15-20 yard um runs at a clip in garbage time that make up for
3:00whatever, you know, whatever the defense was able to do to limit or stop them in the first couple of quarters or the
3:05first three quarters of a game. So, he's going to make up some of that there. Um I think also James Conner's probably not
3:12going to be there by the end of the preseason. Um Tyler Allgeier, who thought he was going to be the starter
3:17or thought he was going to get a shot to be the starter, is going to be the role that he had with Bijan Robinson, which
3:23is still very good um or capable of that type of a ceiling that that you can use him as a flex play possibly in certain
3:29weeks. Um but it's not going to compete with what they ask Love to do. Love is a big play weapon. He's also a guy who can
3:36give you a high number of touches, and he can give you looks out of the backfield. Reminds me of Alvin Kamara um
3:42in terms of the style of play and what you would expect from him. He may not have Alvin Kamara's best years right out
3:48of the gate, um but I I to me he's among your top 25 to 30 players on the board right now. So if he's going he's
3:58going a round or two after that, you definitely want to want to take advantage of it.
4:03>> Yeah, I mean I just just think about the idea that I can start my draft with a running back in the first round and then
4:09a wide receiver maybe a Brock Bowers and end up with Jeremaine Love as my running back two. Um it feels like a really easy
4:16way to start drafts and I think for me it's we see drafters who chase last year's points and try to like
4:23emulate last year's season and I think you're also seeing drafters who want to avoid, you know, past misses and I think
4:31Ashton Jeanty like the the lessons we learned from Jeanty last year in that offense where he averaged 14 and a half
4:38points per game, but he was going at like the one two turn, it's almost like punitive for Jeremaine Love like I'm not
4:44going to get caught again and it's an overcorrection where he's starting to go two rounds later where I'm with you. I
4:50think he should be living inside of round two just based on the upside that he brings to position and I love hearing
4:55you make that Kamara comparison. Uh the pass catching ability from Kamara, that's something where you're seeing Love as a guy who could potentially have
5:04a 90 catch season under his belt at some point in the next couple of years.
5:09>> I think that that's very possible for him and you know, even off the bat right now. I mean I if I'm going to project
5:15numbers for for Love at this stage, I have him at about just under 500 yards receiving. Now he's an 82 target 62
5:24catch receiver with about 482 yards and two touchdowns. I have him um earning about 900 yards on the ground um and five touchdowns as a rusher on
5:34about 210 um touches uh on terms of rushing attempts. And so I mean that to me we're looking at about 1,300 1,400
5:45total yards. That's I I think that's strong and that's very Kamara-like with what we're looking at. And just because you mentioned Gentry, I mean, let's
5:53remember that people like to look at players and we talk about player stats and we most of the stats are individual player stats and football is
6:03a team sport and those stats are supported by players. And we know we have advanced metrics, but they don't always get get the context that we're
6:10looking for with offensive line play or the support staff and system the way that we want it to.
6:18Ashton Gentry had the worst offensive line that we might have ever seen for a rookie running back and it was very much
6:25like a LaDainian Tomlinson rookie year for him and he still was um down the stretch. I mean, he was inconsistent and that's what people
6:34didn't like and and what was difficult and the the high expectations for him.
6:39But what he did behind that offensive line that every every snap it felt like somebody making a big mistake on that
6:47line if not multiple players making a big mistake. I'm high on both those guys as in terms of being I think underrated
6:55options and people are afraid of that type of stuff, but again, it's because they're they're looking at the stats and not the context of the support staff.
7:03And when you start to see players rebound, usually it's because the support staff got better. The offensive line got better. The the quarterbacks
7:11got better. Um something along those lines where you can see why maybe the consistency of production wasn't as strong before and
7:21it's explainable on film, but it may not be as clean in the stat sheets.
7:26>> Yeah, no, 100% with you and I think like one thing we saw is really good play callers can make offensive lines better
7:32as well and I think Clint Kubiak sort of brings that to the table. I'm very much in on Ashton Gentry this year. I think
7:39it could be like an Ashton Gentry revenge tour for drafters who didn't hit last year and then could get a like you
7:46know, we talk about all these league winner types that come from like the one-two turn recently. Go back to like the CD Lamb year, the Saquon Barkley
7:54year. Maybe that's Jeanty this year getting him at like the 111, the 112 in some leagues.
7:59Another player goes a little bit behind him, Matt, and I saw you having a little discourse on X on this one and it's been
8:04really one of my guys over the years.
8:06It's Devon Achane. He's become polarizing this year because Achane had 1,300 plus rushing yards last year, averaged north of 20 points per game in
8:15in fantasy football, but the last 2 years he's had I believe about 135 combined receptions over the last two seasons and it's really boosted his
8:27floor on a weekly basis. We've seen multiple strong receiving seasons from him and I think there's fear in the market that that could go away with
8:36Malik Willis. Do you think this is another instance where drafters are being a little too cautious with the player that we've seen is really
8:43provided elite fantasy ceilings in Achane. He's young enough, he's been paid and focal point of the offense to say the least. Or do you think this is a
8:52range of outcomes guy where it could flip in both directions?
8:56>> I think he's a range of outcomes guy and and Bob Harris and I on our show you know, that with the profane name is one that
9:06we just kind of debated that and I could see Bob's point. He's more in your in your group in terms of being more pro
9:12Achane with this and I'm probably more cautious. I think he's the biggest He's the biggest conundrum of the fantasy football drafts in 2026 right
9:24now because you know what he can do when he has an offense that's structured to really make him shine. And a lot of
9:32people would say, well, with a running quarterback like Malik Willis and his big play ability. Think of Jaden Jalen Hurts and what he did with DeAndre Swift
9:43when you have this good offensive line and you have the threat of the run and you have two to three defenders who are
9:48keen on the quarterback, that just opens things up for at that time Swift was a mediocre decision-maker by starter standards and has gotten a little bit
9:58better in Chicago with the help of Eric Bieniemy and he had a big season you know, that one season, but they didn't
10:04keep him. You know, cuz they see what they get with Saquon down the line. But the point being is is that you have to
10:11believe that the dolphins are going to have a kind of system and compelling surrounding talent to make Willis shine as both a runner and passer and I know
10:21that in isolated looks in terms of what he did in Green Bay, he had some really strong games, but if you watch
10:29the the way they ran that game plan, lot of one two read looks on one side of the field, lot of misdirection off of play
10:39action or threats with his legs, but it was in limited time and I found at least when I study these players that when
10:46they're so heavily schemed up like that at quarterback after about four or five games, defenses say we can cheat against this and we'll just let you run. Go
10:57ahead be Justin Fields. Like just let you run, let you do what you want.
11:01You're going to be down 14, you're going to take your team out of the game because you're not distributing the ball
11:06well and the ground game's not going to be at its maximum because one, you're not you're keeping the ball a lot, two, you're not checking the ball
11:14down a lot when you when you are forced under pressure because you've got those legs and you've got that confidence in
11:20your speed and I'm concerned that the downside that could happen is that Willis is that one two read side of the
11:29field quarterback, teams shut that down after maybe a hot start in the first month, and next thing we know, Willis is
11:38you know, stalling the the the Dolphins are having stalled out drives, they don't have a proven receiving core, and now that means that Achane isn't getting
11:46the volume that you would want from him both as a receiver or as a runner. I think he'll get it more as a runner, and
11:54we'll see a big dip as a receiver if that outcome happens. So, if the worst-case outcome for me is that suddenly we're looking at a 45-to-50
12:03target receiver out of the backfield, and then we're looking at like 35 to 40 catches and 300 yards, and that's a far
12:12cry from what he was that while still seeing him as a 240-250 um rusher for about 1,000 to 1,100 yards, and he still may give you
12:221,300-1,400 yards, but it's but the receiving game has suddenly declined because when Will Willis is either looking downfield to throw, and if it's
12:33play-action, guess who's likely going in the opposite direction of where Willis is rolling out. It's not going to be It's Achane's going to be on the other
12:41side of the field. So, if that because he's the distraction off the play-action game that you're going to see rollouts and those types of things. If that's
12:50what happens, Achane could be a a trap door this year if Willis plays to the level that he can make full field reads, Malik
12:59Washington plays to the level that I think he could evolve to, and they find one other receiver, whether it's Dulcich or or or another another outside threat,
13:11suddenly you have more of a fully dimensional offense, and that could fuel enough that Achane gets screen plays, he gets some of these design plays
13:20downfield, he breaks big runs, and even if he's like more of a boom-bust runner play to play, he may still give you the
13:28high-end production based on the argument you're making. So, if I'm going to lean in a direction, I'm going to be cautious because I don't trust the
13:36quarterback, the new system um based on what I've seen, but I know Achane's a great player. I just don't I'm not sure
13:44I trust him in fantasy right now.
13:45>> Yeah, I mean I want to like throw up all over my keyboard right now when you say 30 to 40
13:50receptions, Matt. And and and I want to get I want and I literally I take it I take it personal when I hear about a
13:56Miami coaching staff, you know, suggesting that they could use him as like a decoy, but hey, I get it. I mean,
14:02the thing I think with Achane is like even if you're like me and you're a little more optimistic, there's so many
14:08good options in round two this year.
14:10That's the sort of where I where I kind of draw the line and I'm like, "Oh my gosh, I love Devon Achane, but there's
14:15like three other running backs plus I got maybe a guy like a Drake London, um Brock Bowers inside of round two
14:22where there's safer players on better offenses. I think if you want your Devon Achane, you know, go go trade some for
14:30Devon Achane in dynasty though because he's not going anywhere. Uh he's got the contract insulation and things could be brighter down the line, but I'm still
14:38willing to draft him, but it's not like I need when it first came out and ADP was sort of existing, I'm like, "I'm going to
14:45have so much Achane cuz I can get him at 18 overall." But I guess there's just the second round is really good and I
14:52did a show with Mike Shope where I broke down the entire second round. You can hear kind of my my thoughts on that one,
14:57but Matt, let everyone know before we dive into your sleepers sort of what your content looks like this time of year.
15:04>> Yeah, certainly. You know, you there's a few things that are going on with me.
15:08Obviously, at Football Guys, we do you know, I do rankings there and do commentary and I comment on just about every single player. I mean, you you
15:16could you could look up my rankings and people spend probably 15-20 minutes looking through my rankings just on that one webpage just because they you know,
15:25they're going to get they're going to get three to five paragraphs on every player.
15:30Um, I'm really writing an article on 500 players for each of the you know, 500 players that I've probably ranked right
15:36now. Um, I do the gut check which is a column I've been doing since 2003. I'm on nearly 700 of these suckers. Um,
15:43you know, that I've done over the years.
15:45I'm doing content on on guys like can C.J. Stroud rebound? Why who are some of my um, massive values at wide receiver?
15:55Um, contributing to the Footballguys Draft Guide, you know, table book magazine kind of hybrid thing. It's kind of like a you know, we'll call it the
16:02hybrid tight end of of fantasy publications right now. Um, it's you know, I'm doing an end game strategy.
16:10How you should work backwards when you devise a strategy rather than working top-down and why that can be helpful to you. Um, of course at the Rookie
16:18Scouting Portfolio, I'm studying film for the 2027 class, but also I'm putting out newsletters, um, you know, once a month for my
16:26subscribers to the pre-draft post-draft guide. You if you haven't gotten those yet, people often wait till July or August and you get tiered cheat sheets
16:34on on the rookies, um, in terms of where I value them, depth chart analysis on who they're competing with, full length scouting
16:42reports, the most comprehensive scouting reports you'll probably find in this space. I've been doing it for 21 years and then um, also I do a uh, projections
16:51and rankings um, service that I offer at the Rookie Scouting Portfolio. That's a separate service and I I do long build
16:58and win now rankings for dynasty covering 300 to 400 players. Um, they're cheat sheets that are tiered and then I give you also like a linear cheat sheet
17:08and then I project every player statistically who I think's going to be on a roster for all 32 teams. So, you
17:15can find that stuff at Matt Waldman.com um, and then of course at footballguys.com where I'm doing the rankings and and the articles.
17:22>> Love the gut check and I'll say that your end game theory that's something that I've really like subscribed to over
17:28the years as well where you know drafters a lot of times will spend all of this time focusing in on what am I
17:34going to do in round one, round two, round three. Know your rules in your league, know how many rounds you're drafting, understand ADP and understand
17:43the sort of players that you're going to get access to to end your draft. It's a great way to go to drafts and be very
17:49prepared and how to crush them from like round 12 on. I think you'll see some of the better better fantasy managers out
17:55there sort of all sort of agree with this take. So really good stuff from Matt right there. Let's dive right into
18:01your sleepers Matt. You have an awesome list here. Let's start off right at the top. I mean I've been talking about
18:06Ameca Egbuka in pretty much every single show. He's one of my guys this year. And I've heard a couple of people on Chris
18:12Godwin. You are on Chris Godwin as well.
18:15What are sort sort of some of the the some of the the positives when you look at his situation this year in Tampa Bay?
18:22And do you think that he's able to sort of overcome some of the injuries he's sustained over the years and give us one
18:28more big fantasy season?
18:30>> Yeah, that's a big wild card with him.
18:31I'm living and dying with Chris Godwin.
18:33Maybe it's because I'm a greybeard and I and I can relate to this a little bit but I I thought that Chris Godwin
18:39skills-wise is probably one of the most underrated receivers of his generation because he's been in Mike Evans shadow a fair bit but he could do it all. He
18:48could play outside, he could be the jump ball winner, he can be the YAC guy, he could play in the slot
18:54and I think that with Evans gone that fills a that's a big void. We're not going to see a JSN season from Ameca
19:02Egbuka. I just don't believe that and and the coaches seem to indicate the same thing that they see Godwin being having a big role this year and taking
19:12over a lot of what Mike Evans did and now he's fully healthy and the issues that he had with his injuries, they're
19:18the type injuries that are kind of more took a while to recover, but they shouldn't have a deleterious effect on him moving forward. You know, so I I
19:28think that what it was is that you know, people were a little too overzealous. I was one of them. I was
19:35overzealous about the fact that he was the number two per points basis player two years ago in fantasy football among the receivers.
19:45And then when he suffered the dislocation, I kind of played down the fact that you could look at his two ankles and see a notable difference in
19:52terms of what was going on muscle wise and development. And I think that he needed just a little bit more time to
19:58get back on it. But the fact that Mayfield is a big fan of what he does.
20:03He's going to be able to target him in the middle of the field. They're going to move Godwin around a fair bit, I
20:08think, but he'll also primarily get enough looks from the slot. He's going to be heavily targeted. So to me, um based on what this offense wants to
20:18do, needs to be able to do, you know, Egbuka will certainly be I think he'll be 1A, but it'll be a tight
20:251B with Godwin.
20:27>> I mean, that's about as bullish as you can get right now on Godwin.
20:31Again, I'll continue to be higher on Egbuka, but Godwin, I mean, I feel like there's enough smart people on him where
20:37get your exposure now because if he's just completely healthy, he's going to probably have a strong training camp and I think the vibes will be there and
20:44people will have a little bit of a correction where oh, I can get Chris Godwin in this range. He's set to go.
20:50He's going to get 120 targets again.
20:52Let's go. I can draft him, you know, as my wide receiver three, wide receiver four. Speaking of wide receivers, let's stay at the position.
21:00There's been a lot of talk recently about Marvin Harrison Jr. in a very positive light. You're still on Michael Wilson. I had this take on X the other
21:08day where I said, you know, Michael Wilson I think is just one of the better best ball clicks right now at the wide
21:14receiver position. He's wide receiver 45 over on Underdog, which seems exceedingly low for a player that was as good as he was last year and
21:25I understand the offensive environment.
21:27You touched on it with the quarterback situation in Arizona, but besides Marvin Harrison Jr. and Trey McBride, there's really nothing at wide receiver in
21:37Arizona right now, and Wilson showed us what he could do last year, and drafters are completely dismissing it.
21:44>> Yeah, because they're using stats that are out of context with everything. Um, the problem is this is first of all, we'll just start with the
21:52offense. They're going to say, well, you know, Michael Wilson's target, you know, targets per game really ramped up while Marvin Harrison was out. And so Wilson
22:02benefited from that. That and that when Harrison was in the game, he he had high-level targets as well from Brissett. So, really it means that
22:13Harrison's really the favorite guy, and Wilson just cleaned up because Harrison was out. Okay, let's let's debunk that right now, okay? First of all, um, that
22:23was a different offense.
22:26This offense, the they already described it. The Puka Nacua role in this offense is going to Wilson. The Davante Adams role is going
22:36to Marvin Harrison, okay?
22:39Who gets more targets in that in that offense? We already know the answer to that. And now let's just talk about skills of the players, all
22:47right?
22:48Marvin Harrison is nowhere near Davante Adams. I know that people want that to happen. I know that because they invested them in in a high, you know,
22:57draft capital, and they've had this expectation of him, but Davante Adams is a master route runner. Marvin Harrison is very good on the outside running
23:06vertical routes with his back to the quarterback and catching the ball with the ball going over his shoulder. He's very physical when they can target him
23:14that way. Ask him to run more of those Devonta Adam routes that break across the middle or have him have to work back
23:21to the ball and attack the ball in contested situations and he fails more often than not. This was an issue since
23:30Ohio State. People didn't want to listen. I've shown video of that at Ohio State pre-draft talking about that this was a potential problem with him. Not
23:38that he's a bust, but that he's not the elite wide receiver people wanted to make him the B. He's more of a Mike Williams type of
23:47aspiring player, a T Higgins aspiring player. If you look at T Higgins and his roles as a number two. And you've seen
23:55each year since the first first season comes into camp. He's rocked up. He looks great.
24:01He's in great shape. Okay, well that's the noise. The signal is is his hands gotten better and then he's not clap
24:08attacking everything so that he's disrupting and fighting the ball because he doesn't track it well in those instances that I described. Is he
24:16getting more fluid in his hips to be able to run a bigger route tree than what they've asked? Is he going to play
24:22wide receiver one role? No. And the reason he was wide receiver one last year and Trey McBride out played him is that Trey McBride told
24:30us in the media this spring that Kyler Murray when Kyler Murray was on the field, Kyler Murray would skip Marvin Harrison Jr.
24:39on all the reads right away. Why is that?
24:43Some of that's maybe Kyler Murray's own issues. Some of that is that maybe he didn't trust Marvin Harrison to get open
24:49with certain looks that they needed. And so when you look at that and you compare him to Wilson, Wilson's the best route
24:56runner on the team. He's one of the best route runners in the league. He's um He reminded me of Michael Thomas coming
25:02out of um Stanford. Um and you could see a lot of that. Short area quickness, very good telling a story. Um his
25:10biggest problem was hands, too. But the difference was is that he was talking about it in Stanford entering his senior year that he was working on this and
25:20that he this was a thing that he's you know, worked on doing. Marvin Harrison, well, his dad was one of the
25:27biggest exceptions to the rule at catching the football with bad technique that you will ever see. He clap attacked everything, caught everything close to
25:35his chest, hands here. Very rarely did the technique you'd want. Sometimes he would, but very rarely. And he could do that. Well, if you grew up watching that
25:44and seeing that and you've been great at every level up to the pros, you probably don't think you need to change that,
25:50which is why your priority now is the weight room rather than the jugs machine and working on certain things that maybe
25:57he's skipping out cuz he's a young player and that you know, he may be great at what he does well, but there's there's gaps in his game and
26:06young players sometimes miss that and teams often miss that cuz they don't coach players on these techniques. They expect them to do it. So, when I look at
26:13all that together, it's the Trey McBride and Michael Wilson show. Um I see Wilson as a 1,200 yd receiver.
26:22Um with about 800 with eight with eight touchdowns this year. I see Marvin Harrison as an 8 to 900 yd receiver with
26:29about six touchdowns. And I think that, you know, McBride's going to be in that 1,200 yd range as well. It's going to be
26:37It's going to be one, two to me, McBride and Wilson. And if I'm wrong, Wilson's still probably going to be a 900 to
26:451,100 yd receiver. Um and that's going to be at the value you can get him at.
26:50>> Yeah, I mean, if he gets 900 to 1,100 yards receiving um based on his wide receiver 46 price tag on like Underdog,
26:57then you've won. That's a great click right there. Um I I think it's super interesting. Wilson's also like if you're a dynasty manager listening to
27:04this, Wilson's also going to be a free agent. So like the quarterback situation could change down the line, but it's it's just I get like not buying last
27:13year's stats, but this is like overblown. He was a year three player.
27:17We love year three breakouts. 78 catches, over 1,000 receiving yards, seven touchdown grabs, and he had like three of the best individual weeks of
27:25any wide receiver in the entire season, and we're able to get him below guys like Xavier Worthy right now, below guys
27:33like Jordan Addison in situations where those guys are more kind of spike week types. Wilson I think could be a weekly
27:38contributor. Uh really an easy click for me. Just curious, where are you going with Trey McBride and like the reception totals? Uh that's a player where
27:47it's another kind of polarizing player where it's sort of like a little bit like the Devon Achane of tight ends where everybody loves Bowers, everybody
27:54loves Loveland. Trey McBride's sort of in his own little island. You mentioned 1,200 yards. Is he going to be similar in terms of uh the 100 receptions we saw
28:05two years ago plus, and then last year of course broke the record. We don't need a record breaking year, but is he
28:10at least going to be safe enough when you look at McBride?
28:13>> I believe so. I think he's going to have probably close to 160 targets and probably 120 receptions and and and this
28:21because we're again, this team doesn't have a great defense. They're going to be throwing a lot from behind. Um so, McBride's going to be the first read on
28:31a lot of these looks as well as Wilson.
28:33And I think just that go back to Wilson real quick, he had the number one contested catch rate or tied for second
28:40with George Pickens last year. So, if you're going to say garbage time easy looks, you that's debunked right there with Michael Wilson. So, you got to
28:48understand that, too, in terms of what you're looking at as a as an uh as a player in this offense. And if Carson
28:57Beck ends up having to take over, well, if you're the number one read in the offense, you're still going to get
29:03targeted. It may not be the same quality of targets that Jacoby Brissett will bring him, but he's getting the most targets. So, if he's going to continue
29:12to be the highest targeted player or one of the two highest targeted players, it's not going to impact him as greatly
29:18as people would worry.
29:20>> I I pretty much every guest I ask them a question about Jacksonville Jaguars wide receivers. Which Jacksonville Jaguar wide receiver are you banking on this
29:28year, Matt?
29:29>> Um you know, last year and for the past, you know, 3 years, I've been like, "Watch out for Parker Washington. He's a
29:36better player than people understand.
29:38He's kind of a Hines Ward type with more contested catch skill and a little bit more speed." Um and maybe an old
29:45reference to a lot of people, but you know, physical dude. We'll put We'll put it that way. And great contested catch
29:51ability. And then when you see what happened with the Jaguars last year, it was almost like Liam Coen came in off of
29:58being with the Bucks, having Mike you know, uh Mike Evans and having um Chris Godwin and being able to throw the ball
30:06downfield. He was like, "We're going to do this with Bryan Thomas. And I'm bringing DeSean Brown in here. And we're going to just, you know, stretch the
30:13field." And then he realized that Thomas and and uh and Lawrence weren't on the same page deep. He was like, "We're
30:19going to have to pivot." They traded for Myers. And I remember hearing him in spring going, "Yeah, this you know," they'd ask him about Parker
30:26Washington. He goes, "Yeah, you know, he does well Parker Washington, excuse me.
30:29Parker Washington." They keep saying, "Yeah, he's pretty good, you know, he's doing well in camp, da da da da da da."
30:33He's going to help us in the return game. It's just kind of like, "Yeah, by the way, I'm not interested in this."
30:39And then he started to realize that this guy was basically not going to be denied. And I think that when you look
30:44at it now, now they're talking he's the centerpiece of the offense. That's what a lot of people are banking on is that
30:51he's a potential feature. Now, to me, let's look at this way. Take Travis Etienne out of this. He's a tease, okay?
30:58I know we all wanted him to be what he what we thought he could be based on him entering the league. He's a
31:05quarterback. If he gets 50 targets, he's winning.
31:09That's not winning for you, though. Um so, it's really going to be a three-way split between Myers, Thomas, and Parker Washington. If Thomas and
31:18and Lawrence get on the same page in the deep game, you could probably see close to 120 targets for Thomas and somewhere
31:26around 1,000 yards and seven scores. And that's a nice rebound season for him. Um if you Zay Jones is going to be the
31:33number three.
31:34He's going to be the steady guy who can get the hard yards and he's not going to be asked to stretch the field very much.
31:40He's going to give you about 110 targets and about 70 catches and about 850 to 900 yards and six scores. But the guy
31:47who's going to give you the combination of both deep vertical game, contested catches, YAC skills, over-the-middle type of work, screen game, is Parker Washington.
31:58So, you're looking at about 140 to 150 targets, 90 to 100 receptions, and about 1,200 yards and eight scores. I mean, to
32:07me, that projects out to where I have him, which is about two rounds over his ADP.
32:13So, I'm taking him all day.
32:16Um to you know, to look at this. And Trevor Lawrence has always had rapport with him, especially in the red zone. Um
32:23they trust him and I think that he's proven without a shadow of a doubt that he's a lot more than people bargained
32:30for.
32:30>> Yeah, there's some really smart people on Parker Washington, some really smart people on BTJ. Let us know which way you're going with the Jacksonville
32:36Jaguars wide receiver in the comments here. Keep it going with the wide receiver spot. Let's talk about a wide receiver we haven't talked about a lot
32:42about on this show. Let's talk about Jaylen Noel, uh who I know has been a player that's been a favorite of yours
32:48sort of from a deeper deep sleeper perspective. Uh you can get him in like the 18th round on Underdog. I've been
32:55clicking that button in Best Ball drafts. Is he more than that? Is he someone who could develop into uh weekly viability on like a redraft
33:03format? Um potential to help us in like the wide receiver three or the flex spot this year, Matt?
33:08>> I think so, mainly because are the are the Texans really going to go two tight ends a lot? I mean, they've
33:15got Dalton Schultz, who's a very good blocker. Foster Moreau is certainly a good blocker, too. So, you could see the the evidence that they might try to do a
33:23little bit more 12, especially with David Montgomery in the backfield there, being able to be a high-volume, you know, kind of a a back-breaking type of
33:33running back. People will call uh there's game-breakers like Devon Achane, and then there's back-breakers like David Montgomery. And I think that you
33:40could see that, but Moreau's a little bit older. He's been banged up a lot. Um Marlon Mack, I know he was drafted
33:47early, but he's a raw player. He's not going to be ready to to make as big of an impact as I think some people would
33:54think. And Stover's okay, you know, I mean, but he's more of a receiver than he is a blocker. So, and you have Jayden
34:01Reed, you've got Collins, you've got me Jaylen Noel, and you have a revamped offensive line that looks a lot better on paper than it's been. And I think
34:09C.J. Stroud's been you know, kind of turned into this this era this year's Kyle Pitts in terms of how people saw Kyle Pitts for years. Like, good
34:21start, things just didn't work out, and then everybody's like, oh, he's not very good. But, when you look at the pressure
34:27numbers against um C.J. Stroud, you see that it's hard for him to find quick answers with unadulterated pressure. Not blitz.
34:37He's pretty good against the blitz, actually. One of the better pocket quarterbacks against the blitz from what I've I've studied of all the pocket
34:44quarterbacks. But against pressure, it's not as good. Well, if you're going to look for quick answers under pressure, it's going to be the inside receiver or
34:50the slot guy. The quick-hitting guy that you can get YAC from. Jaylen Noel is that guy. Tank Dell, I it's it would be
34:57a great story if he can get back on the field and play a little bit, but I don't trust him to be back to where he was or
35:03ever get back to where he was. And I don't think the Texans do, either.
35:07They're just going to give him every chance because he's a young guy, and they're they're hoping the best. But Noel's 4.38 speed, he was a guy that
35:15during the stretch that when Nico Collins got hurt, and they used him, Stroud was going to him in high-leverage situations. He's going to him to to Noel
35:25in difficult situations. And I think Noel can play multiple positions on the field. And Collins, who has had trouble staying healthy, at least for the entire
35:34seasons, even if it's short number of games he's missed, if he plays 13 games this year, say that's kind of the
35:41average that Collins is at. If you're looking at he's like 13 or 14 games, Jaylen Noel will get enough targets that
35:49you could see a high end ceiling. And I'm this isn't what you're going to draft to, but you could see one where he
35:55gets 100 targets. Where he's like 100 targets, 65 to 70 catches, 800 to 900 yards, and and four to six touchdowns.
36:03And suddenly, you're looking at a viable wide receiver three, four flex in in fantasy. And I think that that's possible with this team.
36:14>> Yeah, I just think back to like where we were when he was a prospect, and he had 80 catches at Iowa State, nearly 1,200
36:21receiving yards. And I remember like how good he was at the Senior Bowl, where that first day at the Senior Bowl, he
36:27was just lighting it up and everybody was like Jalen Noel is that guy. Higgins also flashed at the Senior Bowl, but
36:33Jalen Noel was like the best wide receiver for like two days at the Senior Bowl. And then I think back to the
36:38combine, you know, you talk about his size where he's like 200 lb. He's not like a small small receiver. But he had
36:4423 reps on the bench press. This is a very very strong wide receiver.
36:49Um really interesting and I I've talked about this with a couple people where I think there could be a secondary option
36:56in Houston and they're all cheap enough to take shots on. Jalen Noel is the cheapest one. 18th round, you can get
37:02him in all these formats super cheap. So if Matt is wrong, you just say it's all it's all good, Matt. I'm going to cut
37:08him. I'll get somebody else off the waiver wire.
37:10>> I mean, I've done this before. There's There are two other guys that lit up the Senior Bowl for before everybody went to
37:16the Senior Bowl and I used to go. One was Marvin Harrison, not Marvin Harrison, Marvin Jones from Cincinnati who played who played at Cal. They had a
37:25great cornerback class that year and they did the drills with one on one where they're running one on one against press and he was killing every single
37:33cornerback there and everyone saw him as a possession receiver cuz Keenan Allen had come in at that time and they they
37:39relegated him to a possession guy, but if you watched his previous college tape, he was a deep guy. And then I
37:43remember watching a class where there was this guy who they did these drills where they put the cones really tight and said, "You can't go outside these
37:51cones and they're going to press you and you got to get past them." And no one Deebo Samuel, I remember being one of
37:56them who could not even He was getting pinned uh on every play. He couldn't get past him by None of the receivers could
38:02get past on anybody um at all in that drill except for one guy and he was doing it with a different move every
38:10time and it was Cooper Kupp.
38:12>> There we go.
38:12>> And yeah, and those are two guys that kind of started out as slot receivers, could play multiple roles, were really
38:20good in certain skills that people see in flashes, but the film may not have shown or the one year film they looked at
38:28didn't show what really needed to be seen.
38:31>> Very interesting stuff and Jaelon Noel really super cheap, really fun click to make right now. Could be a guy that
38:37gains a little bit of momentum when we get to the end of August. I could just see that happening. Let's talk about
38:42some running backs that you're really into. Is this the year we've been waiting for with Jonathan Brooks?
38:49>> I'm hoping so. We all are kind of hoping so. So there's going to be a little bit of bias there for all of us who root for
38:55the underdog and we all have that in us.
38:58That's why we love sports. Um, now the fact that he had, you know, you don't lose speed when you when you tear an
39:06ACL. You could tear an ACL multiple times and not lose speed if it's just an ACL tear. Um, so I'm not so worried
39:13about the speed. What we're worried about is can the acceleration stay um, strong throughout the season as it and I would say because he's had multiple
39:24years off and he was probably closer you know, he the the timing of his return precluded him from really playing
39:33last year tells us that he's going to he's got a real he has had a longer window for recovery and should be really
39:41close to 100% and when you look at that he had great contact balance coming out of Texas, very good receiver, best
39:48blocker, pass protector of that class. I thought he was up there with players like Jeremiah Love and
39:57and Jamir Gibbs. Not as terms of explosion, but in terms of all around running back skills. You know, it would be like
40:07Jonathan it's like looking at Nick Chubb and you would say Nick Chubb, Saquon Barkley and I was, you know, I've I'm
40:13often known for that I had Chubb over Barkley pre-draft. But you look at those two and people go on surface, you go no
40:20way. Saquon's so much faster, so much more quicker, and does all these wonderful things. But, Chubb's a sub was subtly a better back
40:28in his prime. And I would say that most people who watch film would probably agree with that take. I think it's the
40:34same thing with Brooks. He's subtly one of the best backs that was in that class, and I don't think Chuba Hubbard
40:40is going to be anything more than a running back two by midseason.
40:43>> That's where I'm at.
40:44>> It's just Yeah, whether the line can get better and be good and the passing game can be good enough that they don't cheat
40:52against the run so much that Brooks is inefficient, but I think we're going to see we're going to see signs of that. We
40:57just don't know if it's going to translate fully to the fantasy points that he's capable of with that offense.
41:03>> Yeah, it's interesting. And they draft Monroe Freeling, and there's some like positive buzz there. How how like good can he be right out of the gate? For
41:10with me, Jonathan Brooks, it's the receiving ability he brings to the position. We've Canales talked about it, where I think he'll be really boosted by
41:18that. Will we see him be really effective in the screen game? Some maybe some design looks out of the backfield.
41:25I think Canales wants that, and I think he was sort of limited with Chuba Hubbard. Chuba Hubbard's like a warrior.
41:31The guy plays with incredible effort. We all know like the season he had with the running back 15 overall season, but
41:37Brooks is just was the more natural talent. And Carolina stuck by him. And I think teams that stick by these guys,
41:44you know, often times they really want it to work, and I think that the there's a lot of people enthusiastically pushing
41:50up Brooks, but I think if he stays healthy this year, you could end up with like a top 15 type running back season
41:56out of him just based on the receiving and the and the like the real balance he brings to the position. Another player who was super
42:03effective catching the ball last year, had a career year, is Kenneth Gainwell.
42:08He's up to running back 37, so he's sort of converging a little bit with Bucky Irving, who's right around running back
42:1425. Who is the back the Bucks running back that you want to have on your fantasy league teams this year?
42:21>> Yeah, I'm just going to add one quick thing with >> Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead.
42:24>> No, it's okay. Is that I have Brooks somewhere around about 950 yards and and about six touchdowns, but I am more than
42:32happy that if we hear the good news I'm expecting to hear out of Carolina to pivot and say probably we're going to
42:39add another three to 400 yards total to his totals and see him as more of a 13, 1400 yard back total and then probably
42:48getting somewhere between seven to nine touchdowns. But to that so pivoting from that to to Gainwell in the back Bucks backfield
43:00I just don't trust Bucky Irving. I mean, I the injury that he had took a lot longer for him to recover. I know that they've
43:07said it's probably going to be closer to the beginning of the season, but there was a point they said we don't know
43:11when he'll actually return. Is it going to be, you know, sometime in the season?
43:17But I I think the Bucks already know by keeping Sean Tucker, by adding Kenneth Gainwell, that they're hedging their bets against Irving because of his size.
43:26And I think, you know, Irving has been really good when he's on the field, explosive in space, getting him in the
43:32space, but we need backs who are pretty sound between the tackles where when the defenses know that they want to run the
43:39ball the offense wants to run the ball and it's going to be in situations between the tackles, we need some guys
43:44who can do that. Tucker was a, you know, RFA that they basically tagged you know, so he didn't get to go anywhere.
43:52Gainwell to me has always been like if you remember to you remember Tiki Barber.
43:59So, you know, Tiki Barber was the type of player, very smart runner, versatile, could catch, could block and he got once
44:07he figured out the ball security and later in his career, he was an absolute workhorse and one of the one of the best
44:14had some of the better fantasy seasons in like 2004, 2005 out of a running back. He was fantastic.
44:23Gainwell to me has always been Tiki Barber without the speed.
44:27And I think that he's quick enough and coaches love him.
44:31I see this being the type of backfield where Irving and Tucker combine for 200 touches in the running game and Gainwell
44:39gets 200 touches. And then in the receiving game, I think that it's going to be because I don't trust Irving to stay
44:48healthy, I think Gainwell's going to lead in the receiving game, too. So, I see Gainwell as like a an 1,100, 1,200
44:55yd total runner who's going to get somewhere around eight nine to 11 scores. I think he's going to be the trusted guy in the red
45:04zone. And the guy that we look after here and the and then the the other two guys, Tucker and Irving, it's going to
45:12be based on who's healthy and who's on the field to complement.
45:16>> You know, I love your enthusiasm with Gainwell and I have a ton of Gainwell.
45:19I've traded for him a lot in dynasty.
45:21I've drafted him a lot. And I think he's one of the reasons that, you know, and I'll do a hero RB show a little later on
45:28that I'm so open-minded to hero RB this year. Everybody's telling you to take two running backs this year in the first
45:33and second round, but there's a bunch of values in like what we thought of as like the old dead zone with guys like
45:40Gainwell. And if And if you're correct on that one, Matt, then Gainwell should be somebody that everybody's drafting in almost every single draft. Agree with
45:47you, it's sort of a Bucky fade. And even if you're in on Bucky Irving, the presence of Gainwell, how good he is as
45:54a receiver, sort of caps the upside case for Irving anyway. One question I had for you, you know, you're you're one of
46:01the best kind of film watchers when it comes to breaking down tape. Gainwell's this guy where Nick Sirianni seemed to love him. Remember he wore like the
46:10Kenneth Gainwell t-shirt to like a press conference. Then he goes to Pittsburgh and like endears himself to Mike Tomlin and Aaron Rodgers in like the same year.
46:20Rodgers is like peppering him down the stretch and Tomlin like basically gives him this huge high volume role. He seems like the kind of guy that coaches love.
46:28Is there a trait with Gainwell? Is it a toughness thing? Is it the pass blocking? Like what is it about Gainwell? Obviously we're not in the
46:35locker room, but are you seeing traits with Gainwell where you're like, I get it. This is why every single NFL coach
46:41seems to really like Kenneth Gainwell.
46:43>> There's three things about that. Um one is that he is a good pass protector. So when you have a veteran quarterback
46:49who's going to make a lot of changes at the line of scrimmage and adjust to defenses, you want a running back who's
46:55going to not miss the assignment and going to be able to be as quick on the draw to make those updates or to be able
47:01to point things out to his quarterback and his lineman that he can see at the second level and coaches love that
47:07because you're an extra coach coach or mind on the field who can help um prevent mistakes and turn bad plays into
47:13good plays. The second thing is that he does have reliable hands and you know that he understands the open zones and
47:19can be provide um a great target in check-downs and off-script situations so that when coaches are emphasizing to quarterbacks, "Hey, don't try and be a hero. Just take
47:30what's available." Kenneth Gainwell is making himself available in ways that a lot of young um running backs don't do as well because a lot of the passing
47:39game is unscripted for a running back.
47:41We think about all the scripted stuff that we sh we we go on and on about, but a lot of it is um it's a jailbreak and
47:50they've got to figure out how to how to get through the line and get to the where they need to be quickly and
47:55and to be able to create yards and to be in a situation that they're an easy target and Gainwell's great at that. And
48:01then the third thing is that Gainwell understands how to maximize yards in minimal situations. This is the I call this the annoying Frank Gore stage of
48:12running backs. When Frank Gore was old for a running back and beating out Kenyan Drake and Marlon Mack and and my
48:21buddies like Evan Silva would be like, I hate Frank Gore right now because you know, he's ruining everything for these young fast athletic guys. And the
48:29coaches would say, well, why are you using Gore? Because we know in on second and three, we're going to get three or
48:36four or five out of Gore. Whereas we might get 55 out of Kenyan Drake, but we might lose eight. And more often than
48:44not we're losing eight. Um and that's the problem. It keeps the offense on doesn't keep the offense on the field. A
48:50guy like Gainwell keeps offenses on the field, allows them to run more plays and therefore allows them to score more points. And that's why I think teams
48:59love him is those three things work together to show that he's a smart aware player who gets who helps the team in
49:08that negative situations or a potential negative situations and turns them in the net positives.
49:14>> Yeah, it's a really fun year for Gainwell. Gainwell's 27 years old. It feels like it could be his year. And
49:19hey, let us know in the comments, are we wrong? Are you in on Bucky Irving? Uh I think Gainwell is a really really fun
49:24player to click the button on. And again, the price is not going to kill you if we're wrong. Uh let's talk about
49:31the Washington Commanders backfield.
49:32I've talked about Rashad White as a player I'm targeting. Is he the correct answer when you look at this backfield or do you want to take shots on multiple
49:41guys?
49:42>> Well, for I did an article on him too at in the gut check at Football Guys. And he's like my 15th ranked player overall
49:49right now. It's insane. But I I do rankings different than most people.
49:54Like I understand, you know, our industry, you know, it a lot of it is where would you draft him? And I
50:02understand that viewpoint very well, and people need that. But I've had a little bit of a luxury to be able to say, "This
50:09is how This is how I value what they're going to do based on projections."
50:14And and then I can comment and give you context so that you can understand, cuz I I think most people are smart enough
50:21to go, "Matt's not drafting this dude top 15. Matt's Matt's look showing the potential value that he can be at his
50:28ceiling, and then let's look at what Matt has to say about it." And what I have to say is right now, this team is trying to They
50:37want Ke'Shawn Vaughn to be the guy.
50:40They want him to be the three-down back.
50:42They keep talking about that's where they want him to be. And Ke'Shawn Vaughn certainly has some receiving chops to grow with. He is certainly He has some
50:51He has some budding skills as a blocker, and you can see the explosion and some of the vision as a runner, especially
50:57with cutbacks.
50:58But he isn't quite there as a blocker yet. He's not proven yet as a receiver to the level that they need the way I
51:05just discussed with Gainwell. But Rachaad White is.
51:09Rachaad White has been. And while we may not love the stats that he's produced and that we wanted him to take
51:16over for Leonard Fournette, and when that game in Europe years ago, where he got a lot of carries against Seattle at
51:23the end, and people were like, "Here it is. We're all excited. He's going to He's going to take over." And he didn't.
51:29And then the next year he didn't, and they had Bucky Irving. People were like, "He's not good." But the Tampa Bay
51:35Buccaneers offense at that time ran a lot of duo. Duo is when you have two double teams um running at once, basically, with, you
51:43know, center-guard, guard-tackle type of combinations. and they usually yield very tight creases. And the the it's a harder scheme to run
51:54when it's being blocked well than even like zone or gap um cuz the holes aren't as clear. And so e- even Leonard Fournette wasn't running
52:04all that great at that time, and he was a smart runner by then for sure. Um and a lot of the runners that they had
52:10brought in Gio Bernard even as an example. They weren't getting a lot of yardage out of that type of scheme. And
52:15Tom Brady was throwing the ball. So who really cared? So you know, I mean, you know, I'm a little hyperbolic there. But
52:22the thing is is that when you look at Merit and what they want to do in Dave Canales' offense, it's going to be more
52:29zone. It's going to or gap. They'll be zone and gap. You're going to see under center Jayden Daniels under center a lot
52:36more, which means it's more downhill running, more opportunities to really see what's coming and hit it. I think that's something where
52:44White can be good at that. He and he and Daniels had a history one year at Arizona State as a receiver, and he had
52:52a lot of good receiving totals. He was always a good receiver. I thought his film was better in the past 2 years at
52:58Tampa than it than his stats showed. Um and that Bucky Irving got a lot of the the space opportunities or the down and
53:06distance opportunities where they didn't expect them to hand the ball to them, and they did. And then he and then the
53:11box looks were favorable even if people look at box counts and don't understand that it's about situation, not the box count. And so White to me is a better
53:21back than people make him out to be. I don't think he's great, but I think he's but I think he's better. And so if he
53:28ends up getting a even split with Rachaad White and Merit, I think that even split's going to come more in the
53:35run game and then in the passing game.
53:37How are they going to take White out of the game as as blocker and as a receiver, I think he could have
53:44between 65 and 70 targets in this offense, and you're looking at like 500 to 600 yards receiving, plus like 900 to
53:52950 yards rushing. And now we're looking at like a guy bordering on double-digit touchdowns total, and a guy somewhere
54:01around 14 to 1,500 yards total. And you know, a kind of a kind of like a slow Jeremiah Love situation here. And he's not that slow.
54:11He's just, you know, bigger and a little slower.
54:14But to me, whoever wins this, if there's a true lead back, whoever if there's a true lead back, you want to get him cuz Washington has a
54:23good offensive line, and they are going to run the ball more. If they if they make it a committee, it favors White
54:31because of his experience in the passing game.
54:34>> I think you nailed it. I think if if White can handle the majority of the touches and sort of wins a larger role
54:40than maybe some are projecting, he could be this year's version of a Javonte Williams who gives you strong production. And Matt, it's not
54:48theoretical. The guy's had 3 years with 50-plus receptions, and he's had two nine-touchdown seasons. So, putting that together um next to a guy like Jayden
54:56Daniels, it could happen. And if it's on the flip side where they mix in a lot of Jacquory Croskey Merritt, White can
55:04still give you a somewhat of of this year's version of Kenneth Gainwell. So, I think he's got a ton of outs. Uh and
55:09but the receiving is something we can bank on, and the beat reporters in Washington have been very clear about that that Rashad White is going to catch
55:17a lot of passes in this offense.
55:19And there's not a whole lot of guys on that offense besides Terry McLaurin that are going to command an overwhelming amount of targets. Like, Chig Okonkwo I
55:26think could be effective. Antonio Williams. Uh the one X-factor would be if they bring in like a Stefon Diggs, but it's an offense that's super
55:34interesting. So, I love that you're on Rashad White. You're also in on another one of sort of my guys here and I'm
55:40usually trying to fade the old dead zone guys and go for one of maybe one of these year two backs and I like the year
55:45two guys, but I keep coming back to David Montgomery. We talk about like this year's version of can David Montgomery be this year's version of
55:542024 Joe Mixon and just crush his ADP and give us like 15 plus points per game.
56:00>> Oh, yeah, absolutely. Um mainly because he is an every down back who can block, who can catch, and who can run between
56:06the tackles. Um they they want they already talked about that Woody Marks is going to have he's going to have an expanded role in the return
56:15game.
56:16You know, it's like we want to give him the ball more in the return game. Um so they want him working more on his route
56:25tree right now, expanding his route tree. He's a third down back in the return game and unless they have to make
56:32him be something else. And you've got the like we said those three strong young up-and-coming receivers in in Houston. I think Stroud will be better
56:42if that offensive line is better um because against the blitz his yards per attempt were very strong um compared to other pocket passers. It was against
56:51pressure. So if they can limit pressure um and I think that he can have a good year and that also creates the the run
56:58pass bind that you want to see and Montgomery to me is a finisher, a back breaker who you can like Mixon, you can
57:06just give him those touches and he's going they're going to be in close games. I mean, we the AFC South is an up-and-coming division in
57:15some ways. There's some interesting teams there, but it's still all very closely contested. They're not that good yet. Um I mean, I I hate to put it that
57:24way, but it's it's it's still going to be the type of thing where you're going to see close games and you're going to
57:29wind up seeing Montgomery getting getting his. And just back to White just real quick, I'll say this. I think I don't I just from what I eyeballed, um I
57:39think I have more fingers and toes than he has drops in his career.
57:43Um so, that's a you know, that's a pretty um big endorsement for him. And I'm not drinking any crazy water that's
57:51like contaminated, so I think we're you know, I think we're okay there.
57:55>> No, we're good. And again, Matt's not telling you to reach for Rashaad White early. Take him you can take him at
58:01cost. You can take him around early. If you want to walk away with Rashaad White in all of your drafts right now, take
58:06him in the seventh round. Cuz I've seen him going in the eighth round pretty consistently. Seventh round, it's not going to kill you, and it gives you
58:13access to potentially a lethal flex or potentially your RB2 later on in drafts.
58:18How about Montgomery for like a ceiling case? And I'll say one thing that's pretty cool is Keelan Rutledge threw out the first pitch at an Astros game. You
58:25got this huge offensive offensive guard, uh their first round pick out of Georgia Tech who I was really high on last year from like
58:33the offensive line prospects. Just like a mauler inside. Maybe they reached for him a little bit, but it sort of says a
58:39lot about what Houston wants to do with their identity to draft Rutledge and then trade for Montgomery.
58:46>> Yeah, I mean their head coach is a linebacker. Was a great linebacker. He you know, those guys, they want to run
58:51the ball and play defense. They want to slow the game down. Um they want to control the ball game. And they want
58:58them and or at least create high leverage opportunities for the quarterback off play action. And Montgomery is that. So, for me, I do. I
59:05see Montgomery as probably 230 to 250 attempts, somewhere a bordering a thousand yards, somewhere around seven to nine touchdowns, and then
59:16get you know, if you're going to get an even split with Marks and Montgomery as a worst-case scenario, you're looking at
59:21both somewhere between 35 to 40 receptions, 25 to 30 catches, and you know, somewhere between 175 to 200 yards and a couple of touchdowns between them.
59:31So, you know, Montgomery to me is is a fine back from that perspective, and if they're winning and their defense is
59:38dominant, and their and Stroud is throwing is suddenly now, you know, averaging closer to 8.2 to 8.4 yards per attempt, which is possible. I don't
59:50think it's likely, but if it happens, that ceiling scenario, suddenly David Montgomery's closing out ball games. And now we're looking at 250
59:5950 to 270 attempts and like 1,100, 1,200, 1,300 yards for him.
60:05>> Yeah, it's I mean, he's just such an easy player. He feels like a very safe player, and I think if if Houston sort
60:11of beats expectations offensively, Montgomery could end up exceeding your projections and falling in the end zone a bunch of times this year. And I think
60:19there's a real hunger with David Montgomery, where he wanted a new opportunity. You've heard everybody loves him, like Dan Campbell talking him
60:25up. You you heard Nick Caley calling him all day tough. All day tough, Nick Caley coming out. I love that line. Um
60:33and like you said, DeMeco Ryans looks like he could play tomorrow and was an unbelievable linebacker.
60:38Let's go We're at the end of the show here. Let's go rapid-fire. Give us your QB1 overall, your RB1 overall, your wide
60:45receiver one, and your tight end one.
60:47Essentially, Matt Waldman's league winners in 60 sec Well, you can take longer than that. But I was going to say 60 seconds or less, but take as long as
60:55>> Take as long as you want, man. Take as long as you want.
60:57>> Lamar Jackson, everyone's over underrating him. He was banged up all year. The offensive line's going to be better. The the ground game's still
61:04going to be there. I think that this um I think that the Declan Doyle is probably going to get this thing
61:10straight, and everyone has basically I I don't know how else to put this, but kind of had a savior mentality with how
61:17they think they're supposed to approach Jackson in every step of his career, and he's proven them wrong every single time that he's smarter, more skilled
61:25offensively, and being able to read the field. And I think that we're going to see a big rebound year. Um running back
61:31one, I mean, look. Um Jahmyr Gibbs, what I I mean, all day. I mean, I'll put Bijan Robinson a close second. If you want Jahmyr Gibbs
61:41or Bijan Robinson, I'm I I'll I'll pick one depending on the flavor of the day and how I'm feeling, okay? And and on some days, I might just
61:49decide screw it. I'm an old man, and I'm want to flip off everybody, and we'll go with Christian McCaffrey uh cuz I had
61:56him number one last year. He was number one last year. All right.
61:59I'm a Jami- I'm a Ja'Marr Chase fan.
62:01Ja'Marr Chase to me, I know Justin Jefferson might be in the argument as a great as up there with him as a route
62:08runner. Jackson Smith-Njigba might be up there now as the flavor of the month, who probably has more lasting, you know, skill there. But Ja'Marr Chase, size,
62:17speed, strength, ability after the catch, route running, contested catch skill. This to me, if you're going to bet on a receiver who if all things
62:26turned out in a perfect storm could have a 2,000-yard receiving season, Ja'Marr Chase would be the guy I would bet on every year um just to see because
62:37he'd be the one that could make it happen. Um so, I'm sticking with him cuz he's like a running back uh with the
62:45ball in his hands in the open field, and he's one of the best route runners in the league. Um tight end,
62:52you know, Trey McBride is still the it for me. I'm still going to I'm still going to roll with that. There's a little bit of a
62:58trap door there, and it wouldn't shock me at all if Cole Kmet and Loveland ends up being the guy. Um just because it Look, Cole Kmet and
63:05Loveland was my number one tight end coming out of the draft last year. It wasn't even close. Um and because he could do it all, and they
63:13just got Sam LaPorta and Chicago so that they could basically do an Aaron Hernandez Rob Gronkowski type of bit going on there but make Loveland be the
63:23outside receiver who's going to get most of the touches or be the guy that they can flex out a ton while they can keep
63:29Raushon there for the run game or in the short area passing game. Wouldn't surprise me at all if Colston Loveland is the receiving leader for the Chicago
63:37Bears this year.
63:38>> I love it. Brock Bowers, you're in the state of Georgia, you're not going to go Brock Bowers. A little Brock Bowers
63:42love, Matt?
63:44>> Oh, look, he's number three and not far from Colston Loveland. That's you're right, I got to you know, but I figured
63:49most people know that I'm going to give as a UGA grad and a UG and also a former a former employee of UGA for a decade,
63:58you know, of course, you know, of course.
64:00>> Tons of great takeaways from that Waldman. This is one you want to like rewind. Love the the conviction still on
64:06Trey McBride. I think that's going to give a lot of people hope where there's a lot of mixed feelings with him.
64:11Love the sleepers. Highly recommend all of Matt's work. Make sure you stick with us here at RotoWire. Dropping shows like this all July long. We're going to help
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